บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Why “Digger” Divides Critics And Audiences

what did you mean by that? 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.599 I I thought you were talking to your agent because you were holding out for the third season here. 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.599 So it's gl I'm glad to see you at the table. 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.000 Yeah, we've noticed you've had some of your requests have been um checked. 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:31.919 One of my requests has been checked. 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:35.360 There's many others that have not even been looked at. 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.199 We have a brand new table. 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:38.800 It's not a brand new table. 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:39.840 We've refinished it. 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:50.960 And people know this because they were they were really invested in in the show last season, and I brought it up several times that this table needed to be finished, and uh you finally got to it. 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:51.439 So thank you. 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.039 Craig talks like we did it. 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:56.400 Oh, I guess you did do a little bit of it, but our daughter did it for us. 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:56.960 It's okay. 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:57.599 Oh, she did. 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:58.639 Cameron did it. 00:03:58.800 --> 00:03:59.439 Oh, that's great. 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:00.879 Minimize whatever I do. 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:01.520 That's all good. 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:02.240 It's all good. 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:02.800 Zing. 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:03.599 Keep doing it. 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:06.960 Oh, she did most of the work and then you swooped in and helped. 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:09.280 Oh, so you took credit credit for it. 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.680 He did tell me he did it yesterday when I came. 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.360 He he never mentioned Cameron. 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.680 So she did a three anyways. 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:17.680 She did three pieces of furniture. 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:19.680 That's like when Craig talks about the podcast. 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.600 He's like, Have you listened to my podcast? 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:22.720 Everybody? 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:23.199 Yeah. 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.639 Well, he asked me if I think if I went to his wedding. 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:30.240 You know, we all make mistakes. 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:31.759 Weren't you there? 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:33.040 I don't remember. 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.759 Um, so we were talking about your new purchase. 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:36.480 Congratulations. 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:37.519 You got a Blu-ray. 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.040 You must be so excited. 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.279 Well, when those come out, 2000. 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:42.720 Ears are hurting. 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:43.600 1995. 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:44.480 It's so loud. 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:45.040 I know. 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:45.680 I know it's not. 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.199 Well, that was the inspiration for it. 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.240 So I I

had no so everything that been watching is through streaming, right? 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:51.040 Apple TV, right? 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:52.000 So everything is streaming. 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.279 Even though the 4K looks good, I have this really nice system. 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.480 And then um look going through this, uh watching this YouTube video. 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:02.319 This guy's saying, listen, as good as it looks, it's totally compressed. 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:03.839 The audio is heavily compressed. 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:09.920 It's the only way they can take these massive files and then stream them through you know the internet and at a reasonable size. 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:10.879 So I went, really? 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:11.360 Okay. 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:12.560 So I went and bought one. 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:13.759 They're not very expensive. 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:15.920 The movies are we gave it to you for your birthday. 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:16.399 Oh, sorry. 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:18.959 Oh my god, what is happening here? 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.399 He forgot that we bought him that for his birthday. 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.480 This is the theme of the show today, apparently. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:25.759 Yeah, everything's Craig's. 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:26.319 Yeah. 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.920 Um, so I've got a VCR too, if you want it. 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.120 Jeez, dah, wow. 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.759 I mean, like how old is the Blu-ray now? 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.920 It's probably been around for a while. 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:36.399 Yeah. 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.279 I'm um probably two and a half decades late on this one. 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:41.600 So, and I've got an eight-track too, if you want it. 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.680 Um so when you say your ears are hurting, what are we talking about? 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:51.120 Well, the sound is so great and uncompressed that Oh, do you want to wave to the neighbors? 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.759 They're walking by our live studio window here. 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:54.399 It's okay. 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.000 Um, we they always look in. 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.560 Sorry, the blinds don't work right now in the studio. 00:05:58.560 --> 00:05:59.439 Blinds broke. 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:01.839 So, and Craig was explaining all the technology behind it. 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:02.560 And I said, Really? 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:03.839 I just have a string. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.319 I just pull down on the string. 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.519 But yours is computerized and you know, whatever. 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.839 So, anyway, sorry, your ears. 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:20.319 So the stereo system is really good that we have, and so um, but the Blu-ray makes it better. 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:22.399 Okay, but what what were you watching? 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.920 Oh, we've watched um So we bought 1917. 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.000 Yeah, 1917 watched it twice. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:28.879 Of course you did. 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:29.199 Yeah. 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:29.839 Twice. 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:42.240 The second one we were stopping because uh one of our daughters taking a history course in trench warfare and world war one, and so we were stopping and discussing and then going and stopping and discussing and going. 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.160 But oh, how entertaining how entertaining. 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:45.600 Yeah, the first time we didn't do it. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:49.120 So we we bought they also bought the tr uh Christopher Nolan's trilogy, Batman. 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:49.839 Oh, okay. 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:50.560 Yeah, okay. 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.600 So you've done Nolan, which is who you should probably do. 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:54.399 Totally. 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:55.600 So yeah. 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:57.680 But yeah, and then I have a huge list. 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:02.399 Um, my next one I want to do is um Breakfast uh Oh, Breakfast Club. 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:03.199 Breakfast Club. 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:04.319 I was I thought you were joking. 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:04.879 Yeah, no. 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:05.759 For Blu-ray? 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:06.959 I know, I know. 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:08.000 Because what? 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:13.360 Guess how much it is to get the ultra-high definition Blu-ray version of Breakfast Club. 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.120 Normally, like if you get a you know, movies or how much is it? 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:17.920 Yeah, how much is it? 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.160 It is this like a price is right thing. 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:27.040 Okay, so uh, I'm gonna say if it's this collector's edition, I'm gonna say $69.99. 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:28.560 $80 Canadian. 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.199 So, you know, you're looking at what 60 US, something like that. 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:32.399 Is yeah, okay. 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:33.120 Well, interesting. 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:34.959 How much is 1917? 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:37.600 It was $19.17. 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.120 Yeah, no, believe it or not. 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.439 It was still like almost close to $40. 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.439 Well, they're all gonna be that much. 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:45.519 Not John Hughes is not one. 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.560 I love John Hughes, but it's not what I would think of for Blu-ray. 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.120 Yeah, but all the music would be great. 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.319 John Hughes directed 1917. 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:55.839 No, oh my god. 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:56.959 That would be great. 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.000 Don't you as they're running through the trenches? 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:01.759 Forget about me. 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.600 That would be great. 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.399 I just sang that song to him when he was driving me to work the other day.

00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.639 And he said he was gonna forget to go off on my exit. 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:10.800 And I started and I sent it and he says, Who sings that? 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:12.800 No, no, it's and what movie is that in? 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:14.160 Mockingheads, right? 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:17.360 Simple Minds, one of my favorite bands. 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:20.639 One of my favorite bands, so underrated, love them. 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:21.360 So, Shawn. 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:22.240 Yeah. 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:23.839 How are you feeling? 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:25.920 I'll get back to you on that. 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:29.199 Are we gonna pull the trigger on Digger? 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.519 It took me six weeks to come up with eyes. 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:32.000 Nice. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:32.639 That's all I got. 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:32.960 Nice. 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:44.000 Your idea, you you said to me, because we were gonna do the social reckoning movie, and then you text me and you're like, nah, this there's no energy around this movie. 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:48.720 I think we should do Digger because Digger is turning out to be incredibly controversial. 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.000 Everyone's talking about it. 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:56.080 I'm a Tom Cruise fan, always have been, even though his movies have been far-reaching and different. 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:56.320 Yeah. 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.000 Always being a Tom Cruise fan. 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:03.360 Well, we grew up with Tom, so he's kind of a part of our lives in that way, as an absolutely. 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:03.600 Yeah. 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:10.240 It started off with him sliding across the floor in his white indies, you know, and uh with his sunglasses on. 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:11.360 You made the right call. 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.200 How do you know you haven't seen the other movie? 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.200 No, it was good point, Susie. 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:15.679 Thank you. 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:16.159 Sorry. 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:17.440 Way to bring it all. 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:18.639 Way to bring it. 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.360 It actually's supposed to be a good movie, too. 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.120 That the social reckoning as well, I've heard. 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:25.600 Well, I hear it's kind of like a made-for-streaming style. 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.919 This this was this is a cinema experience movie. 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:36.399 First off, there was so much stuff online, it was just being inundated by the this whole narrative. 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.080 First of all, a couple things. 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:42.879 One, I want to I want to give kudos to Warner Brothers for for the way they marketed it at first. 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:45.919 A really big twist in this film that they did not reveal. 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:53.440 And I'm really thankful that they found a way to sell the movie without giving away some of the plot, because they usually do that so much. 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.320 We we've all seen these trailers where the whole movie's in the trailer. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:57.120 Yeah, the best part. 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:57.519 Yeah. 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:04.799 So and they could have very well decided to go that way because they wanted to sell this and explain what this is to people. 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.480 They didn't do that, so I love that. 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:15.279 But the whole thing online was all about how much this movie cost to make and how much this movie stood to lose. 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:20.799 So, and it was 250 I think it cost $170 million to make and then another hundred million in marketing. 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.799 And it it's gonna lose two hundred and fifty million dollars. 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:29.519 In fact, it's gonna be one of the biggest losses in the history of Hollywood. 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:36.240 I think it's comparable to a movie that came out a few years back called, I think it was called John Carter. 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:37.360 It was for Disney. 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:50.480 And it was um uh like a science fiction action movie, and it had uh I can't remember his name now, uh, but a young, hot, up-and-coming guy in it, and they had spent everything they had and the movie just tanked. 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:58.639 So everybody's been online just obsessed with this narrative about whatever the movie don't even talk about the movie. 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:00.320 Look how much money it's losing. 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.679 And I will tell you, I went and saw it on a Wednesday afternoon. 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:09.120 Yeah, ironically enough, it was in the biggest theater in in the in the movie place I went to. 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.559 Yeah, and across the hall is Avengers Endgame. 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:13.440 Oh no, right? 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.960 So it's like, and everybody's going into Avengers Endgame, which has already been out. 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:21.200 I mean, once, you know, it's already but and there was three people in the movie theater. 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:23.360 Well, how many were in with us? 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.039 Maybe five. 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:26.399 Yeah, we were in the smaller theater. 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.960 It was there's still only about six or eight. 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:29.679 Five or six people. 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.159 And I I walk in and I'm like, ooh, this isn't good. 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:33.600 And this is like the first week. 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:38.240 Now it is a Wednesday, but still I'm like, now I love that because I got the whole theater to myself. 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:43.039 I just picked out a seat, walked around, and like I was like, oh, this is great, but not good for the movie. 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.320 No, in fact, the movie is pretty much gone from theaters. 00:11:46.480

--> 00:11:46.799 Wow. 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.440 And it's been what, four weeks, something maybe? 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:50.080 What's it? 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:51.679 Came out October 2nd. 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.159 So yeah, it has, I mean, this is crazy. 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:54.720 Yeah. 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.000 So it's gone. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:04.159 It's it's like, I think it's still out there, but it's in one theater and it's got like limited showings and yeah, you so you said it was it had a budget of 170 million. 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:04.799 Something like that. 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:06.639 And then there's it's 100 million markets. 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:10.720 You gotta fly Tom Cruise all over the world to promote it, right? 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:12.960 So it has that ain't cheap. 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:17.039 It has up to this point made domestically 17.5 million. 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.360 Worldwide, it's made 42 million. 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:19.759 Yeah. 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:21.039 Aye, aye, aye. 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:21.919 Yeah. 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.440 So this is my here's here's what I'm coming at you with. 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:29.919 Does that matter to us as moviegoers watching this movie? 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:38.240 Because that was the narrative, and I kept thinking, oh, well, if I were to give in to this, I would say, oh, it's a bad movie because it's nobody's seeing it and it's bad. 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:39.120 You know what I mean? 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:39.840 That was the narrative. 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.679 This and I was thinking to myself, this is when I put my tinfoil hat on here. 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:49.039 I was thinking to myself, does the studio actually want this movie to fail? 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:50.559 Why would you think that? 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.320 The studios, I mean. 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.320 Other than Warner Brothers. 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.440 Well, and maybe even Warner Brothers, I mean, sure, they want to make their money back. 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:07.600 I'm uh, you know, that would be silly, but but do they want these Maverick directors coming back into power and having control of the studio system? 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:08.240 Interesting. 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:18.159 Or do they want to make or do they want to make more Avengers movies and more sequels and more prequels and more Disney Star Wars movies? 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:19.360 And right? 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.519 Do they want to go back to that? 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:45.120 This is similar to like the 70s when they had all of these Maverick directors and they were sort of running Hollywood, and then they did this movie called Heaven's Gate, and it was the most expensive movie ever made, and um it completely tanks, and that was the turning point when this the studio system started to take back over and and make call the shots and take away the power from the directors. 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:52.879 I don't like to know too much about what I'm going into because I don't want preconceived ideas, I don't want to be judging it before. 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:57.919 Totally understand that because I would have I can't say I didn't think it was a loser movie. 00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:59.919 Like I didn't Oh no, we have so much to say. 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:03.919 I just want to leap off that for a second here and say this is not just another movie. 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:08.159 This this movie Digger is is it's it's another another level of whatever. 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:09.840 You will either love it or hate it. 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.200 I I don't think there's many many people in between who go, oh no, it's fine. 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:14.799 It's very polarizing. 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:18.159 It's incredibly the critics are so divided on this film. 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:25.440 I mean, they they like you said, they absolutely hate it or they think it's the greatest uh movie ever made, literally. 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:29.279 The critic score for Rotten Tomatoes is 53%. 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:34.399 And yet the popcorn meter, the people who go to it, it's up to above 70%. 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.200 So there's this really interesting divide. 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.799 I I'll just read a couple of these things. 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:40.080 It's gonna kind of make me laugh. 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:48.240 Like this is this was Digger is a failure because it got too smart about something people take seriously and was laughing while it did it. 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:48.639 Uh-uh. 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:56.080 Or maybe it shouldn't be surprising then that men as self-serious as Cruz and Iñorito? 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:57.120 Uh Ignorito. 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.840 You can pronounce it many different ways. 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:01.360 Yeah, I've heard it pronounced. 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:09.919 Cruz and Ignorito can't do comedy, but the film's cinematic sleight of hand isn't sharp enough to compensate for the dearth of decent gags. 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.240 Like, holy damn. 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:24.559 And yet, if you go to the audience comments right away, it's it took a few minutes to realize the premise of the movie, but ultimately this is one of those gotcha movies made for deep thinkers. 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.159 I loved this one. 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:31.759 Don't go into this movie with any expectations and just be just go along for the ride. 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.279 Fantastic cast and direction, really great movie. 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:36.720 Uh it is a must-see. 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:38.080 That's spot on for me. 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:39.039 Yeah, that review. 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:40.080 That's how I felt. 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.039 I think that this is such a big swing, this movie. 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.919 And uh it's so hard to describe. 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.000

It's a this movie's batshit crazy. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:49.200 It's all over the place, dude. 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.159 It's fucking crazy. 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.320 And and if you're listening to this right now and you haven't seen the movie, take the time. 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:59.120 It's not a three-hour epic, it's not Nolan's Odyssey, it's like two hours and nine minutes. 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.960 It's a totally watchable uh movie, and it's so interesting. 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:04.320 Here's the problem, though. 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.200 It's very hard for us to talk about this movie without revealing. 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:08.240 There's a twist. 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:08.480 Yeah. 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.720 There is a twist about half an hour in, maybe. 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.600 Uh, and it's it's totally game-changing. 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.240 And so we sort of discussed this. 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:26.159 We don't ever talk about the podcast before we do them, but we did discuss the fact that I I brought up that I didn't want to reveal the twist. 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:26.480 Yeah. 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:32.639 I I mean it'd be like saying, hey, you know, Bruce Willis is dead in in six cents, like right off the top, right? 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.080 So what? 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:35.600 Oh, like like so. 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:36.639 I would be pissed off. 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:43.919 And I'm so glad that when I went to see, like I said, thank you, Warner Brothers, for not revealing that twist because I had no idea. 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:50.159 I did, and so I'm watching this film, and all of a sudden the ground is pulled out from underneath me. 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:55.679 Yeah, and I'm like, holy shit! And it takes it in a completely different direction, this film. 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:56.240 Yeah. 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.279 Now you did know. 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:57.840 I did know. 00:16:57.840 --> 00:16:59.120 Yeah, you blew it for yourself. 00:16:59.360 --> 00:16:59.919 Yeah, I did. 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:08.559 In a sense, I happened to watch a couple of YouTube videos, and they just kind of threw it out there quite quickly and they didn't give me that kind of spoiler alert. 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.480 And I I'm accused of doing the same thing here on this podcast, but uh fundamentally, did it really change for me? 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:15.599 I don't think it really did. 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:19.920 Was it kind of an it would have been a neat, interesting, oh whoa, where's this going? 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:24.559 But more importantly, I walked into this going, oh, I'm taking Susie. 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:26.240 Fuck, she's gonna be pissed off at me. 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.559 This is gonna be another beautiful Saturday. 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.240 Sunny Saturday. 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.839 She wants to be outside. 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:36.960 I mean, this is a woman who has to have, she would love to have no fucking roof on her house while she sleeps at night. 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:37.759 She's rather be. 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:42.559 I mean, I'm like, set up a fucking tent out in the backyard if you want to sleep and with fresh air kind of thing. 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:44.400 So here we are. 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.640 We gotta take you to the drive, uh drive-out. 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:47.200 Yeah. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:47.920 There we go. 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:48.720 Convertible. 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.519 Well, he won't. 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.359 So somebody should. 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:52.480 I and I didn't say much. 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.079 All I was saying to Susa, going, yeah, just kind of like setting her up a little bit. 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:59.519 Quite sure I told you to stop talking about it because I didn't want to know. 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:02.000 I said it's a little different, you know. 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.200 You know, it's a little different. 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:05.200 Some people say it's weird. 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:06.000 Well, yeah. 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:11.119 I'm sitting in it and I'm expecting to hate this movie, but I start, you hear me. 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:11.680 I start laughing. 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:13.440 I'm fucking giggling through the whole movie. 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:16.480 And then sometimes I would like kind of like a belly laugh going on. 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:17.599 Do you laugh at this movie? 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:21.039 I I laughed hysterically at points, not the whole way through. 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:26.160 No, I think the movie, that's why I love the movie, is that it is a roller coaster ride of all these different emotions. 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:34.079 There's parts of the movie that I thought were kind of off-putting and weird, and yeah, I was kind of like, what the and then other parts were completely hilarious. 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:45.920 And now, if you guys have seen any of Enorito's other stuff, like like um Birdman, like, because this reminded me a little bit of Birdman, because Birdman has some some kind of you know, it was a long time ago when Birdman came out. 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.559 Best picture, best actor. 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:53.920 It was maybe my mind wasn't set for these things, and I'm not a cinemaphile like you. 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.559 I think I stopped halfway through Birdman. 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.160 It was too this is over. 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.039 We're out of here. 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:00.480 So it was so weird. 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:03.119 Craig, you're old enough that we could watch the whole thing. 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:04.880 Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe I'm mature enough. 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:05.599 Yeah, okay. 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:08.960 Yeah, and and and you can explain it to him before. 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:16.480 Um then you've you've also got uh The

Revenant, which is one of my favorite films, and you know, he won Best Picture for that. 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:18.000 Yeah, so I mean that's incredible. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:23.359 Back to back, I mean Revenant and Birdman, I mean, and best actors for both of those movies. 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.519 Oh wow, so he's one hell of a director. 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:31.440 I think the best way to describe this movie is that whether you hate it or you love it, it doesn't matter. 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:32.799 It's a piece of art. 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:33.200 Yeah. 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:34.480 Well, it certainly looks that way. 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:39.599 It's a piece of art, like every scene is so beautifully crafted. 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:41.680 The acting is exquisite. 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:43.519 And you know what's so interesting? 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:49.599 People hammered Tom Cruise for coming across as arrogant, and I don't get it. 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:51.599 I thought he was utterly fantastic. 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:52.799 I haven't read any of that. 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.200 I I think he's a shoein' for best actor. 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:07.680 It's literally on the comments here by the critics panning him for his his acting and overacting, or I feel like we lost Tom Cruise in the last few years. 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.960 Much like we I've talked about we lost James Cameron to Avatar. 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.839 Yeah, we've lost Tom Cruise to the Mission Impossible movies. 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:14.160 Right. 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:23.599 And and while I I get that he wants to do that kind of stuff too, which which I appreciate because it gets people in the seats and gets people, it's a cinematic theater experience. 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.799 I'm so happy to see him back doing these kind of things. 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:28.640 Well, because he you know what we forgot? 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:29.839 He's a really good actor. 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:35.519 So I wish I knew, I wish I could remember exactly where in the movie it was. 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:41.599 But you know he's he's this big personality and he's doing his thing in the movie. 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:50.640 And then at one point he just looks straight at the camera and he has a little half smirk, his Tom Cruise look, and he connects in the camera. 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:58.559 And I'm it's like, there's the real guy for one second and then right back, like it was little in on the joke thing. 00:20:58.559 --> 00:20:59.119 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:08.640 Without revealing the plot twist, there's uh two sides of Tom Cruise we see, and I thought both of those sides were incredibly cool. 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:11.519 I think we're used to two sides with Tom Cruise already, are we? 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.680 I don't know about you, man, but I don't he was genius. 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:16.319 I I don't know. 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:17.759 I'm still

thinking about that movie. 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:28.559 And I just his there was a monologue about 10 minutes, and he's speaking to this EU parliament or whatever, and it was extraordinary. 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:28.960 Yeah. 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:40.000 Well, it was all shot in one take, um, although there are cuts in it, and and it's always fun to see that you know the crowd in that monologue, they pull out their phones and they start recording them, which is so what would happen right now. 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:40.480 Oh, yeah. 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:45.279 But that monologue, I think, will go down as one of the greatest scenes in i in movie history. 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:45.839 I'm not kidding. 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:49.920 Yeah, it is it is how can you not get an Oscar on for that monologue? 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.599 And I'm sitting there going, he's talking to me right now. 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:53.839 Yeah. 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:54.079 Yeah. 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.000 Like that's me he's talking to. 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:57.920 Like why is everybody so sweaty? 00:21:58.400 --> 00:21:59.359 Oh, that was a theme though. 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:01.920 With okay, are we gonna reveal it? 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:03.279 No, I don't think we're gonna reveal it. 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:04.880 It's it's a movie about the environment. 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.200 Oh yeah, we should tell people what the movie's about. 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:07.839 Yeah, yeah. 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:10.000 It's about uh an oil digger. 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:13.680 Yeah, and Digger Rockwell is a billionaire tycoon. 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:22.400 Yeah, and he is this classic bombastic rich dude who is so eccentric, very eccentric. 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:36.319 He the world revolves around him, and if the narrative around the world doesn't fit his narrative, he just changes the narrative to fit his world, and everyone, like even his cat that's like on the verge of dead or is dead, yeah. 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:43.039 Um he he's just brings in the best of the best, keeps this disgusting thing alive. 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:48.480 And the cat just wants the cat's just looking at it in the camera, going, kill me, just let me die. 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:49.920 Let me let me die. 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:54.640 And uh, but no, but this is that bombastic nature of this this guy. 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:59.200 He's he's grander than life, but and he's surrounded by very powerful people. 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:03.039 John Goodman, who plays the president of the United States, who also, oh my god, express. 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.880 Yeah, so Rizimed and oh my god, great cast. 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.759 Ultimately, uh the story is about, and this is how the movie starts, right? 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:16.160 You got these methane bubbles just kind of coming up from the ocean floor. 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:27.519 The sound is this kind of sonic dissonance, and it's off-putting but alluring and captivating, and you can't quite tell if it's real footage or animated in some way. 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.039 It's all it's really, really cool. 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:47.200 Yeah, and then that leads into the whole story about how methane is releasing from the ocean floor and it's causing damage to his oil rigs, and then releases a uh a size of a calving of an iceberg so large that it will basically destroy the world. 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:55.119 There's an absurdity about all of this, but that's you'll see if you watch the movie why it's so absurd without again again giving it away. 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.559 And the whole stories around how do you solve this problem? 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:24.240 I don't think we're revealing too much when we say ultimately we go back to that 10-minute monologue is really cool because one of the reasons why I think I was bothered by that potentially bothered by about this movie, that it was going to be one of those preachy fucking movies that's gonna speak down on you in a self-righteous, smug kind of way, and it wasn't that at all. 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.240 He's not smug, Alejandro. 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:28.720 No, none of his movies are Tom Cruise. 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.319 Funny when you listen to the comments, people just kind of like bothered by this. 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:35.839 But I kind of wonder, because Shawn, this is the question I had for you and Susie. 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:42.079 What did you think of the message around uh Tom Cruise's monologue? 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:47.599 So just to set the stage for people listening, okay, and again, I'm not gonna give away a lot, but this is something that I think you should know. 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:55.359 He's about to do a speech and he's surrounded by hundreds of uh EU members of the EU parliament. 00:24:55.359 --> 00:25:00.960 And he uh says, Yeah, I am responsible for all of this. 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:02.079 This is my fault. 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:03.359 He takes ownership. 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:21.279 But then instead of going, yeah, he's the classic kind of stereotypical tropey, you know, white man, oil baron who uh takes on no responsibility, he then flips the conversation and he basically says, Yeah, but you're all at fault too. 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:22.880 Like, I'm digging the oil. 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:24.079 You want me to dig the oil? 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:25.920 You want, you want the oil too. 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.759 You all drove, you know, here in your cars. 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.880 And so that's what made it so kind of enjoyable. 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:34.000 What do you think? 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:35.039 Asked and answered. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.119 You just asked the question and then answered it all. 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:37.759 Shit. 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.160 So so I I I agree. 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:41.200 I agree exactly. 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:48.559 I

I sat there in the theater and went, he's talking about me because I'm not willing to to I'm I'm a slave. 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.559 I think that's one of the lines, isn't it? 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:51.359 Something like that. 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:55.119 But I'm a slave to all of the stuff that makes my life, I think, better. 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:55.920 Yeah, right? 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.519 I like to have heat in my apartment and gas in my car. 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.480 And so am I willing to not do any? 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.720 I do look, I'm sure we all do little things like Susie washes out plastic bags. 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:07.200 Yes. 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:08.240 So good for you. 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:09.599 Plastic bag fairy. 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:11.279 Yes, the plastic bag fairy. 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:12.240 So good for you. 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.400 But but you're dad, you're right. 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.599 That was the message. 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:28.319 And and it it was delivered in such an effective way that it struck me sitting there that I was like, oh my God, this is the first, actually, I'm kind of ashamed to admit this, but it's kind of the first time I ever thought about it like that. 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:31.839 I mean, I think sub subconsciously I probably knew that all along. 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:39.359 But it when it was was delivered to me by Tom Cruise And then and when Danger Zone was playing in the background. 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.039 I mean, it's true. 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:58.400 Like when you I don't know, you hear about all these um activists in the world and they're and you're you're always kind of like, oh, I should be doing, I could do more, I could do more, but no, but you're like Yeah, you gotta raise your kids, you gotta go to work, you gotta do your thing, man. 00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:02.400 You still have to get up every day and go to work, and you wanna, you know, you wanna drive there. 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.559 You wanna go camping in your your trailer. 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:05.440 That's right, man. 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.400 You wanna have your coffee imported from wherever. 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.359 But you wash the plastic bags, man, the Ziploc bags. 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:12.720 There's the payoff, right? 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.680 It's like it's like buying those environmental credits, you know. 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:16.720 You're you're doing your bit. 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:17.759 I'm doing my bit too. 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:18.799 I what do you do? 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.319 Um, what do you do, Craig? 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:21.279 I recycle. 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:23.359 Um, I take out the trash. 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:23.920 Do you? 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:24.400 Yeah. 00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.400 We do we do our bit. 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:33.839 You know what I thought was funny was that like they had to put prosthetics on Tom Cruise to make him look like a 64-year-old man. 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:35.599 Yeah, you know how old Tom Cruise is? 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:36.640 64. 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:42.720 Yeah, it took it was six hours to put the prosthetics on, and Tom goes, you got to do it in an hour. 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.279 So can you, because he doesn't have time because he's Tom Cruise to go in and do six hours. 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:55.599 So can you imagine they would have 10 people practicing uh like on somebody before Tom got there to make sure they could get it down to an hour? 00:27:55.599 --> 00:28:03.519 It's like a pit crew, yeah, and and like only Tom Cruise would like because he's such a busy person, would be like, No, you gotta do it in an hour. 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:04.400 But it takes six hours. 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:05.359 I need it in an hour. 00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.279 Yeah, and I'm Tom Cruise, so you're gonna do it. 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.279 If you can't do it, then we're not gonna do this. 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:12.079 Like so, isn't that I just thought that was funny? 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:13.839 We gotta make this guy look his age. 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.359 We're gonna need a lot of prosthetics. 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:16.720 Yeah, he looked good. 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:23.119 I I actually thought the the the prosthetics people, whatever they're called, the I'm sure there's a category for it. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:28.160 Yeah, it's called makeup, makeup makeup, Oscar, maybe we'll see. 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.000 They did set design Oscar. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.279 I mean, that's 10 out of 10. 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:34.160 I mean, that like you said, visually, this film is on another level. 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:54.160 Oh, and like the and the the costumes, the clothes, like his outfits, just it's sort of like Poor Things uh meets Mickey 17 meets like here, like this year, Warner Brothers has put out uh weapons, uh One Battle After Another, uh Mickey 17 and this film. 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:54.960 And you know what? 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.319 They're not all masterpieces. 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:04.480 I know we've talked about a lot of those movies, but good for them for swinging at this, these kind of films and putting these kind of films out. 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:12.240 Because we talked all last year about the fact the state of the movie industry and all the sequels and the all that shit we're talking about. 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.160 And now we're here. 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.799 And yes, this movie didn't do well financially. 00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:22.720 It's gonna be talked about for years as one of the biggest flops, but I hope that it gets its praise like. 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:28.160 So I wonder does the biggest flop win win an Oscar for a lead actor? 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.759 I I I don't know what else is he's gonna be up against, right? 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:41.359 I just want to go back

to this idea of movies that have flopped in the movie theater, but you know, what gone on to be. 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:54.400 But gone because of VHS, because of DVD and now Blu-ray, these movies became cult classics and incredibly popular, and people went and bought out, you know, millions of these discs or you know, tapes. 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.200 Yeah, there's the streaming model now. 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:04.640 I don't know if it makes I don't know if that would lead to the same hype creation as a result. 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.920 Because you know how on YouTube you see the number of accounts of views? 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.599 You don't see that when you're going to Apple TV or other services. 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.480 You don't you don't see if this thing is actually doing well. 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:20.480 All you know is if it's in the top 10 list and and or you know, having conversations around the movie at work. 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:28.720 But other than that, you know, whereas they would go, oh, this deep this has this movie has sold millions on the but why did it not do well in the movie theaters? 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.319 I think this is one of those movies. 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:34.319 Part of the problem is even the trailer couldn't reveal too much. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.799 If it did, it would give away the plot twist. 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.279 So they were in this already awkward moment. 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:40.960 It'll be like a cult follow-up. 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.559 But did you see the the uh requisite trailer they put out after the reviews? 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:54.160 No, they had uh they made up a trailer of Tom Cruise reacting from the movie, Digger, of all the bad reviews. 00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.279 And so it would be like this movie is whatever, whatever. 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:04.559 And and so then they show a clip of him from the movie going, it doesn't matter what the people think you know or what the critics think, because these are lines from the movie. 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:05.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.000 And so they inserted it all as his character responding. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.599 Oh, interesting, and it was brilliant. 00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:14.240 So, like once again, I'm I'm giving crude kudos to the to Warner Brothers for for doing that. 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.759 Well, and and I don't think there was a bad actor on set. 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.440 I mean, first of all, John Goodman. 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.960 Always, always so funny, yeah. 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.119 Fucking he was brilliant, he's lost a lot of weight. 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.000 Some of his facial expressions in this film, they're genius. 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.920 And you have Ahmed uh Riz Ahmed is so good in this film. 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:31.920 He should get a best supporting nomination. 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:33.119 I think so. 00:31:33.119 -->

00:31:50.319 His whole character, he is like basically the scientist, the environmental scientist, and who is under this enormous pressure from this bombastic individual of a man of Digger, and but eventually he has this coming out party kind of calling him out beautiful, beautiful moment. 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:51.200 Good scene. 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.759 And then I Sandra Mueller. 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:54.720 Oh, Hewler. 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.000 Yeah, Hewler. 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:08.160 Yeah, Hewler, Hewler, another great movie, but she again just has a nose for great movies, and she had a nose job done, actually, after her last film. 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:08.720 So there you go. 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:09.839 So you just made that. 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:10.400 Yeah, okay. 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.240 But I can never tell with you. 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:12.640 Yeah. 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.599 Most people get nose jobs in Hollywood. 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:16.880 Uh Jesse Plummins. 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:17.279 Yeah. 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.200 Another I'm a And these people are all very limited in the film. 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:22.799 It's really all Tom Cruise. 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:23.920 I think he's in every scene. 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:24.240 Yeah. 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.480 And then these people all are very small little roles, but they add a lot to it. 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:28.799 Yeah. 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:29.279 Right? 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:34.400 So we've we've given away the 10-minute monologue detail. 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:40.960 Um, there are a lot of other we haven't we've given it away, but we until you've seen it, yeah, you won't believe it. 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:42.319 So you that's what I mean. 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.160 We can't, it it won't blow anything for you. 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.119 No, we haven't really And it's so worth going to. 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:48.720 I want to go to see it again. 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.599 Like I said, it's nice to see Tom back in a dramatic role. 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:58.720 And then I started thinking, like, okay, what are Tom's like five best roles in my in like just thinking about it? 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.240 And I came up with a few ideas. 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:00.480 Okay. 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:01.759 And I was like, okay. 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.079 So I'm gonna say I love Tom Cruise and Collateral. 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.079 Okay, so these are five things. 00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:09.039 Do you remember collateral? 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.039 That's another that'd be another great Blu-ray DVD. 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:12.559 That's incredible with Michael Mann. 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.359 Where he plays the hitman with Jamie Foxx, okay. 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.359 He's driving around LA in the back of a cab. 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:18.960 Incredible. 00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:25.519 And I probably put Jerry Maguire on that list because that was a comedic and a dramatic performance. 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.000 He did get a nomination for that, by the way, for best actor. 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:28.480 That's right. 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.799 And then I would put um I would put Magnolia on that list. 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.799 He's so good in Magnolia. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:40.319 And then I'd probably put Digger on this list, and I would put still my number one. 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:42.160 I would go back is Born on the Fourth of July. 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:43.839 He was so good as Ron Kovic. 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:44.640 Yeah, he was talking about it. 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.359 And that's not top gun for that. 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.519 Top gun is back to uh acting? 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:49.920 No. 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.279 Great movie. 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:52.400 I mean, for our childhood. 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.480 Top gun for just watching. 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:54.720 Yeah. 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:56.079 It's just looking at him. 00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:56.480 Yeah. 00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:57.279 He looked great. 00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:57.599 Yeah. 00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:58.960 I know the dramatic role. 00:33:58.960 --> 00:33:59.359 I don't know. 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:00.880 Just talking, just look. 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:10.800 But it but it was it was nice to to to be back in that realm again and you know, not see him hang off the side of a plane or something like that, you know. 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:16.239 And just get that one little wink of him, of all good old Tom Cruise, too. 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.920 It's just like, oh, he's there, and then oh and don't worry, he'll be back, you know, yes, running from an explosion in no time here. 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.800 I'm sure his next film. 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.360 Well, I don't yeah, this guy doesn't seem like he's gonna retire anytime. 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.400 Oh, God, no. 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:27.119 Getting me? 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.719 I I I I think fundamental will be dead before Tom Cruise retires. 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.800 And he'll die on set somewhere. 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.440 He will die doing what he loves doing. 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.519 Wouldn't it be funny if he died on Digger and didn't die on Mission Impossible? 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:40.480 Right? 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:49.440 He fell down a set of stairs or something, and he didn't die from an explosion on an airplane or uh falling out of a cliff or jumping off a train over a yeah. 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.800 This movie did feel like it was a satire of satire. 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.159 It's like Doctor Strangel, a little bit, kind of meets something else. 00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:04.239 Yeah, you know it was like poking fun of people poking fun or satirizing the people who satirize or are cynical. 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:09.679 And this is where I do wonder the these these critics

who were really quite hard on this movie. 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.800 My take is this, and I I I don't know if it's true. 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.559 I'm kinda curious to what you think. 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:30.079 It seemed to me that the narrative was fundamentally we're all responsible and that we can't just easily because in our world today it's so polarized, it's so easy to go, you're at fault. 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:38.559 You this this person or this group that they're responsible and then and we're not gonna take any responsibility or culpability. 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.400 Yeah, everybody wants to play at the blame game. 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:54.719 Yeah, and what I liked about this movie, it kind of went, no, pulled back the curtain and went, nah, we're all in this together, and if we're gonna find solutions, we actually have to work together with this instead of just pointing fingers and blaming. 00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.559 And and I wondered if that's where you get some of these uh individuals who found it, you know. 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:07.519 I I still can't get over the critics not liking this film because this film is brilliant. 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.840 Yeah, I mean, it it's put together so well. 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.000 Yeah, so why why would half of the rotten? 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:17.039 That's why my my tinfoil hat comes on, like like the fix is in or something. 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:24.000 No, it's it's like because I think it breaks that narrative of the rich dudes are are at fault. 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.039 And somebody's got to be at blame, and it's not us. 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:27.760 Yeah, it's not us. 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:36.960 That the mirrors that Innerito is putting this mirror up, and then and that's causing others to go, oh, oh, uh, and make them uncomfortable. 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:38.079 I it's the only thing I can think about. 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.920 That's the key, Craig. 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.079 I would say to anybody, is that this film made me uncomfortable. 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.000 And I loved it. 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:52.960 I enjoyed the ride, but there was something deeply in the pit of my stomach made me uncomfortable while I was watching it. 00:36:52.960 --> 00:37:08.639 I think that that art I mean, this is gonna sound so pretentious, but I think art like questions everything and that you believe and it pushes against everything and it makes you feel kind of uncomfortable, but also happy and also sad and also, you know. 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:14.800 So uh I think that's that's what cinematic experiences are supposed to be about. 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:21.119 Now, having said that, it's great to just go watch something you can just laugh at, not turn that off once in a while. 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:22.320 But can't you have it all? 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.159 Can't you have all of that coming? 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:25.599 This one seemed to have it

all. 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.320 Oh, I think I might be buying this on Blu-ray, there's no doubt. 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:28.880 Oh, yeah. 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.320 I think you're gonna buy everything. 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.000 I I think that you've got a problem. 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:32.719 Oh yeah. 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.360 And I didn't fall asleep in this movie, so that's there's the Susie thumbs up. 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:38.239 There's the stamp of approval. 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:39.760 That's it. 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.360 Susie did that's what the critics said. 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.199 Susie didn't fall asleep in this film. 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.239 The Susie meter. 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:44.559 Yeah. 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:44.880 Yeah. 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:45.440 I like that. 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.639 I've been awake for quite a couple, maybe a couple years now. 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:51.280 We're all very proud of you. 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:51.840 I know. 00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.280 I am mostly proud too. 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.119 Yeah, you're like normally a narcoleptic. 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.639 Don't worry, we'll find you some movies to fall asleep in coming up. 00:37:58.800 --> 00:37:59.119 Yeah. 00:37:59.360 --> 00:37:59.679 Yeah. 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:08.320 And like I said, Digger uh being this artistic important movie, but doesn't mean I'm not excited about movies like Miami Vice, 1985. 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.000 I just saw the the shoot. 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.480 Oh my god, I saw Austin Butler in the outfit. 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.159 And man, does he look good? 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:18.960 He's in the he's in the white blazer with the with the baby blue shirt underneath. 00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.199 And the it's got full Don Johnson. 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:22.800 It's looks so good. 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.119 Well, I think we've covered the main bits. 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.400 We can only go so far considering that if we say anything more, we'll kind of reveal the big plot twist. 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.760 It's a tough, tough one to talk about, even though we did choose to talk about it, but it's tricky. 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.679 And this is one of those movies that I feel like I wanted to promote out there. 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:44.960 If you haven't seen it, um it's important, I think, that everybody, I mean, sees this, and I hate to say that too. 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.159 I mean, it feels kind of cheap. 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:46.480 Yeah. 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.079 But but I'm like, you gotta see this movie. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.639 We're not getting any revenue out of this thing at all, obviously. 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.239 And once and neither are they. 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.719 But if you go, the it'll help you know cut their losses a little a little less. 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.280 I'm gonna see it 800 times before. 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:06.000 Um, but it's an honestly, all kidding aside, this is it's important. 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.360 This film is important. 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:14.239 I don't think there's another actor out in this in the world that could do what Tom Cruise just did in that movie. 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:14.719 I do. 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:15.280 I think so. 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:15.760 Really? 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:16.159 Yeah. 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:17.280 Well, Daniel Day Lewis. 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.320 No, it's Daniel Day Lewis. 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:19.119 He could do it. 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:19.679 Yeah. 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:20.719 Okay. 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.159 Well the fuck do I know then? 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:23.599 Well, I'm just giving my opinion. 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.800 Yeah, no, okay, I definitely that's what this show is about opinion. 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.159 I mean, Tom did it really, really well. 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:31.039 No, I love Tom. 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.920 I I I couldn't picture anybody else doing it after seeing him do it. 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:34.239 You're right. 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:35.199 Yeah, it's hard to get it. 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:40.239 But I could see that they probably had, you know, I mean, I think he wrote this with obviously with Tom in mind. 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.159 That's what I've heard that he came to Tom. 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:47.519 Oh no, the story is that Tom wrote his motorbike from San Diego to LA. 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:55.599 He was shooting Maverick, this Top Gun movie, and he drove his bike to go and talk to Alejandro about this film. 00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:57.760 And Alejandro was writing it for him. 00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:58.800 So there you go. 00:39:58.800 --> 00:39:59.599 It was meant for him. 00:39:59.760 --> 00:39:59.840 Right. 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.800 Speaking of Maverick, there's gonna be a part of the Top Gun. 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:03.360 Of course there is. 00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:03.679 Yeah. 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.880 You have the biggest gross, one of the biggest grossing movies of all time, right? 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:07.599 The second one. 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.719 So there's no way the studio is not gonna let that happen. 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:11.039 Yeah. 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:16.000 And you've seen the Days of Thunder sequel that's on the shelves coming coming to us now. 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.400 So gonna be lots of lots of that stuff. 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.719 So it's nice to have Tom doing Digger. 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:33.039 Shawn, I I think a good way to kind of finish this off is talking about Catherine Holmes. 00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:36.880 I mean, we've been talking about Digger Rockwell, who is this fictitious character of this. 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.360 It's Elizabeth Holmes, but thanks for playing. 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.599 Catherine Holmes is uh a porn star, I think.

00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:50.480 We're talking about um Digger, and and we, I think, I hope, gets nominated for Best Picture. 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.920 Uh, and certainly Tom Cruise will be nominated for best actor, I hope. 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:54.880 And he may even win it. 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.480 We don't know who he's gonna be up against at this point, so we'll leave that open. 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:14.239 But I think there's gonna be big change at the Oscars this year because I think that a documentary may, for the first time, be put in the best picture category, not the best documentary category. 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:25.840 They do, but it's a possibility that this movie is so big, and it this, of course, is the Elizabeth Holmes movie, um, and it's called Everything You Can See. 00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:30.960 And uh And you forwarded this uh I did forward this to you a few weeks ago. 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.840 Of the part of the documentary, I'm assuming. 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.159 Yeah, and it's Nathan Fielder who's you didn't watch it? 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:36.480 What? 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.400 No, I haven't seen this on the theater soon. 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:39.679 Oh, I mean you didn't watch the clip, did you? 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:40.239 No, I did. 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:40.800 Oh, you didn't. 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:41.599 I had to tell him. 00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.840 It's listen, I had to tell him I sent it to the let's get into the Instagram account. 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.239 We have this Instagram account. 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.920 I've been sending something every day for the last 82 days. 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.039 I have no response. 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.559 This should also be admin on the Instagram account with you. 00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:57.760 Yeah, like you care. 00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:59.199 Anyways, he had no idea. 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:05.119 I sent it to the Instagram account, and um, he finally saw it after I told him I sent it to the Instagram account. 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.440 But, long story short, we'll cut that. 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.880 I never look at it. 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:09.360 I'm sorry. 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:10.960 I'm terrible with social media. 00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.039 So Nathan Fielder is a comedian. 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:18.400 He's done a lot of just out there stuff, and and he's a sketch comedian, and he's he's quite brilliant. 00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:29.039 But nobody knew that he was shooting, nobody in the industry knew he was shooting this documentary where he basically lived with Elizabeth Holmes 14 days before she's going to jail. 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:34.719 It is this documentary is all centered around him in the house with her, and I guess her husband's in it. 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:38.559 And this movie is blowing people's freaking minds. 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.360 And it's, first of all, it's three hours long, so it is a commitment. 00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:46.800 You're going to see a three-hour documentary in the theater, but everybody's coming out of this going, What did I just see? 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.079 Like, much like like Digger, like we're talking about with Digger. 00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.679 And and so this is another movie that people are mind-bending. 00:42:53.679 --> 00:43:00.639 But but I love the fact that it um premiered at like Telluride or Sundance or somewhere, and nobody had a clue what the movie was. 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:01.679 They're like, What is this? 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:02.559 Is it comedy? 00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:03.840 Oh, did he put out a comedy? 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:09.440 Is it and then they realize, holy shit, this is the Elizabeth Catherine Holmes story. 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:09.920 Yeah. 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:15.360 Who's Catherine Holmes? 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:16.639 Um, porno. 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.920 It's a porno story. 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:20.880 I'm in. 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:26.079 Um not gonna look at cowboy boots the same way. 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:29.599 Oh, and they had the popcorn, the popcorn cowboy boot. 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:29.920 I see. 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.920 Which they have now for everything, you notice. 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.840 Yes, every movie has some sort of popcorn vessel. 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.480 My favorite Tom Cruise moment was when he comes out of that. 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.960 We were talking about that the monologue that he has. 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:44.719 He goes into that room. 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:45.280 Yeah. 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.679 And he does fires the fucking cowboy. 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.159 Bite me! Bite me! 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.960 It's I think it's in the trailer. 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.239 Uh it's so good. 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:55.679 Just classic Tom Cruise. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.840 And then he comes in, and the other guy is super drunk, been just a bad idea. 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.360 And that's drunk. 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.760 That's why I think he should be nominated. 00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:03.920 Yeah. 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:11.840 Because that drunk scene where he's giving Tom shit about fucking his responsibility and all of this is so great. 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:12.559 So good. 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:13.119 Love it. 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:14.079 So good. 00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:15.519 All right, Shawn. 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:16.639 And Susie. 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:16.960 Yep. 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:17.519 Good to see you. 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:19.199 Yeah, I'm here too, Craig. 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:20.000 Don't forget about me. 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:21.039 It's not just your show. 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.760 He couldn't see you behind the puppet show theater over. 00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:25.679 Susie, I see you every day. 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:27.519 You're just disappearing. 00:44:27.679 -->

00:44:27.840 Yeah. 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:28.639 No, no, no. 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:30.159 And so that's it. 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:36.320 And very excited to um get into our next week's topic, which Craig is planning as we speak right now. 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.679 What is that topic, Craig? 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:38.880 Ancient history. 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:40.079 Okay. 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:41.119 That's that's vague. 00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:41.920 Riveting. 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.000 It's a four-part series of ancient history. 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.119 Ancient history. 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:46.639 That covers a lot. 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:47.519 That's right. 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.280 Focus on all the different philosophers of ancient history. 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.079 Well, we kind of. 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:53.039 I did that already. 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.519 Shawn, we're gonna sit in the back of the room for this one. 00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:57.440 I'm not I'm gonna be sick for that one. 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.320 Say it. 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.800 I'm like, I'm I coming up with nothing especially for this one. 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.639 And then you feel stupid. 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.199 And you know, and so Craig, you carried this one for sure. 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:09.920 This was yours. 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.599 Yeah, I mean you need a 20-minute monologue. 00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:15.280 Your monologue was was better than Tom Cruise's monologue in that last one. 00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:16.320 You're too kind. 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.199 I'm not sure it was better. 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:17.760 I didn't even know. 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:18.960 You're right, it wasn't better. 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:20.000 Did I talk that much? 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.320 It was actually not better, but it was long, it was as long. 00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:23.599 I you shouldn't meet it. 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:23.840 Yeah. 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.519 You you you know, you carried the ball. 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:27.840 No, I I I sometimes black out when I talk. 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:29.760 It's probably what the students see when they see me tease. 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.360 Is that why we have to pick him up off the floor? 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:32.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:33.519 Sometimes. 00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:42.320 No, I mean, it it you definitely had a perspective um on this one, and you you, you know, you brought your your knowledge to it. 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.800 I I kind of threw a blank on this one. 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.280 I tried to um I was gonna try to review today, but to take it. 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:50.480 Because you don't give a shit. 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:51.599 Well, I do give a shit. 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:52.400 No, you don't. 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.360 That this is what we do. 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.920 We have on your tag is you just don't want to be

here. 00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:57.039 Oh my god. 00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:57.519 Okay. 00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:58.559 Wait a minute. 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.000 If I didn't want to be here, I wouldn't. 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:00.880 You wouldn't be here. 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.159 I think it's fucking funny. 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:08.719 No, but um, I'm also in between the cinephile and the historian. 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.000 And that's too far away. 00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.119 You can just say between the asshole and the other asshole. 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.920 I am not the fucking sh what is it called? 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:18.639 Choda. 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:19.679 Whoa. 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:21.199 Wow. 00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.119 Damn. 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:28.079 If you feel like you're the choda in this relationship, okay, I'm speechless. 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:28.639 That's funny. 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.159 You know what I think we should do? 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.639 I think we should have those You're not putting that out, by the way. 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:38.559 We should have those have those styrofoam bats, and then you can just hit Craig whenever he's talking too much. 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:46.880 Um, you know, Craig was going on talking about about Digger, and I just thought, I'm not gonna get to say anything during this podcast. 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:47.760 Oh, I'm sorry, sorry. 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.239 I can't even I I but you're lucky because I had nothing to say. 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.159 Well, you can't say it without ruining it. 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:54.559 That's it. 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:55.119 Well, you know what? 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:55.679 I was surprised. 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.719 I'm surprised you didn't go on, you know, talk about Tom Cruise and his things. 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.960 You just Well, I mean, I did. 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.519 Uh you blacked out while I was talking about it. 00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:07.519 I did mention five performances that you guys said nothing about, by the way. 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.320 You just went like no feedback on any of those. 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:11.679 You're like, uh-huh. 00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:12.639 Uh-huh. 00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:13.840 Yes, that was a movie. 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.960 I feel like you always say that for you. 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.599 I was so that was to engage a conversation. 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:25.760 I said the top five Tom my top five Tom Cruise performances, and I expected that could have been 30 minutes. 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.679 I thought I was gonna get pushback or I was gonna get, no, you're right. 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.039 You remember this or that? 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:31.679 Nothing. 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:32.880 Fucking nothing, dude. 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:36.000 Craig's thinking about his next fucking monologue over there. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:36.559 You know? 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:42.480 He's like, geez, maybe I could talk about the social relevance of the uh environmental uh thing. 00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:48.000 Like, and I'm like, dude, hey, shut off the machine for a second and engage. 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:48.960 I'm sorry. 00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:50.639 You know, this is an engaging thing. 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:56.559 We're supposed to be engaging and talking and like we're it's not all facts and figures, okay? 00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.119 Well, you reference movies that I hadn't seen in a long time. 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:00.400 You've never seen Jerry McGuire. 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.559 Your one no no no, I've seen the other one. 00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:03.519 Your one. 00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:08.639 Show me the money! Your one contributor was not Top Gun. 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.519 That was that was what you contributed today, okay? 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:15.119 I'll do better. 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.599 Here I am thinking, oh, this is great. 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.400 I'll do the my I'll do my top five, Shawn's list. 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.519 It'll be a new segment for the third season of the fucking podcast. 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:24.320 Shawn's top list. 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:25.280 I'll have top five. 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:29.920 And Craig will write some really cool music around it, and it'll engage this conversation. 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:30.559 Nothing. 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:31.199 Zero. 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:32.000 Susie's? 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.000 Yeah, you too. 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.280 Um what? 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:36.159 Me too, what? 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:36.800 Me too what? 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:37.519 No, not hashtag. 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:41.119 I think you guys are just like, uh when is this gonna end? 00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:41.840 You know? 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:45.599 Well, I'll explain to you all about Tom Cruise's movies. 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.440 I love that you think he's a great actor, but you haven't seen anything he's done. 00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.039 So wonderful. 00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:59.039 Craig started the whole podcast off about talking about how big a Tom Cruise fan he is and how great Tom Cruise is. 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.079 Never seen any of his work, but thinks he's fantastic. 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:02.880 Top Gun. 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:04.320 Seen Top Gun 28 times. 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.039 That's right. 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.079 That's it. 00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:07.440 All right, dude. 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:08.400 It was good to see you. 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.519 Um I I don't feel like you meant that. 00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:14.800 That was an automatic response. 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.119 Typical closing of the talk show. 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.599 Hey, dude, it was good to see you. 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:35.840 Hey, move your pants again.