บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Trademark Triumphs & Highbrid Visions: The Art of Cannabis Branding

just I just ate them. 00:03:55.715 --> 00:03:56.717 I don't know this is the rosin. 00:03:56.998 --> 00:03:59.812 Yeah, yeah, I ate them and I find that it hits me faster. 00:03:59.812 --> 00:04:00.474 They're weedy. 00:04:00.474 --> 00:04:03.343 I like I'm gonna swallow them, but hey, man, teach storm. 00:04:03.343 --> 00:04:06.211 Yeah, we, we got new peanut butter jelly too. 00:04:06.211 --> 00:04:06.752 That is out. 00:04:06.752 --> 00:04:08.526 There's a new drop of peanut butter and jelly. 00:04:08.526 --> 00:04:08.888 I don't know. 00:04:08.888 --> 00:04:10.243 The caramel peanut butter. 00:04:10.243 --> 00:04:14.183 Oh no, the new drop of the flour yes, buy 14 grams of flour. 00:04:14.183 --> 00:04:15.729 Go support Todd, yeah. 00:04:15.729 --> 00:04:23.130 Great friend, great products, yeah. 00:04:23.130 --> 00:04:24.232 What else did you have on your mind? 00:04:24.232 --> 00:04:25.074 We're going to talk politics. 00:04:25.074 --> 00:04:25.894 This is Gary Satan. 00:04:25.894 --> 00:04:28.088 It's worth shouting out 67 cents. 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:30.165 Yeah, we don't know much about them. 00:04:31.440 --> 00:04:40.379 This was on our flow-through order and it's the Gary Satan, which is a Gary Payton times jealousy, and it says the breeder is Tiki Madman. 00:04:40.379 --> 00:04:41.867 I like how it has the breeder. 00:04:41.867 --> 00:04:44.249 I don't know who Tiki Madman is, but shout out to him it, madman. 00:04:44.249 --> 00:04:44.951 I like how it has the breeder. 00:04:44.951 --> 00:04:46.057 I don't know who Tiki Madman is but shout out to him. 00:04:46.057 --> 00:04:57.687 It has all the good stuff at the top too Limonene, beta-mercine and linalool but I gotta say like it smells and just looks really nice, like almost has like a tire rubber thing. 00:04:57.922 --> 00:04:59.920 I think Carly Boomer said it smelled like Canadian tire. 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:00.841 I thought that was pretty funny, like entire. 00:05:00.841 --> 00:05:03.646 I thought that was pretty funny, like when you walk down the tire aisle, so I thought that was a good one. 00:05:03.646 --> 00:05:04.928 It's a good one. 00:05:04.928 --> 00:05:06.170 It smells exactly like that. 00:05:06.170 --> 00:05:07.473 That sounds great. 00:05:07.473 --> 00:05:07.973 It was good. 00:05:07.973 --> 00:05:14.860 I enjoyed it. 00:05:14.860 --> 00:05:15.540 You didn't even try it. 00:05:15.540 --> 00:05:16.562 Yeah, there you go, I'll roll it up now. 00:05:16.562 --> 00:05:16.862 Yeah, it was. 00:05:16.862 --> 00:05:17.343 It was good. 00:05:17.343 --> 00:05:17.744 I would. 00:05:17.744 --> 00:05:18.384 I would agree at the price. 00:05:18.384 --> 00:05:18.824 Uh, it was very good. 00:05:18.846 --> 00:05:21.329 Um, are we going to keep our guests a secret or are we just going to come out with it? 00:05:21.329 --> 00:05:23.391 No, yeah, I can't wait for our guest man. 00:05:23.391 --> 00:05:24.331 Our guest is dope. 00:05:24.331 --> 00:05:30.425 It's a perfect segue from what

I was saying about you know, having a brand and creating like imagery. 00:05:30.425 --> 00:05:35.125 And look at you know Rodzenheads with his great brand. 00:05:35.125 --> 00:05:37.387 I hope he has that all checked down. 00:05:37.387 --> 00:05:44.464 But yeah, no, our next guest is in a girl, I think, and a lot of people making brands. 00:05:44.464 --> 00:05:47.069 They made our stickers, which are incredibly dope. 00:05:47.069 --> 00:05:52.221 Yes, the raised sticker slaps right, that's right. 00:05:52.221 --> 00:05:55.125 Oh, yeah, these are the season three Limited edition, I believe. 00:05:55.125 --> 00:05:57.790 If you come to the store and mention it, we'll be happy to give you one. 00:05:57.790 --> 00:05:59.771 Really, I don't even think I have these. 00:05:59.771 --> 00:06:01.675 Yeah, we have them, man. 00:06:01.675 --> 00:06:03.783 Yeah, yeah, they're really dope. 00:06:03.822 --> 00:06:09.653 They got the flying jelly toast and the rosin head and the rosin coin. 00:06:09.653 --> 00:06:12.007 I thought it was a really cool little collab we got to do with Todd's. 00:06:12.007 --> 00:06:13.942 I didn't even realize you had the shirt on. 00:06:13.942 --> 00:06:15.666 Yeah, you're wearing this hoodie. 00:06:15.666 --> 00:06:18.754 Yeah, yeah, very dope. 00:06:18.754 --> 00:06:22.923 Yeah, no, even speaking too, I guess I get to start. 00:06:22.923 --> 00:06:24.824 You love the victory lap, so we may as well. 00:06:24.824 --> 00:06:33.033 But with the trademark too, it kind of like fortifies the victory in the neighborhood, like holding down the neighborhood. 00:06:33.033 --> 00:06:37.197 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I love it. 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:47.536 Well, we don't have to name the list, but there's been a lot of dispensaries that have come and gone, I guess around here, yeah, and we won't name names, but the very closest one, about 100 meters across the street, is finally called Equest. 00:06:47.536 --> 00:06:49.182 Yeah, and we wish them well. 00:06:49.182 --> 00:06:54.375 But you know, it's good to be here and thanks for everybody that's been supporting us all these years. 00:06:54.375 --> 00:06:56.105 Exactly, I guess that's all I wanted to pivot to. 00:06:56.105 --> 00:06:58.165 Yeah, that's exactly Turn it into a positive, I guess. 00:06:58.165 --> 00:07:00.240 Yeah, I know. 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:01.041 I think I thought I said it. 00:07:01.041 --> 00:07:04.906 Well, right, you know, we wish them well and we're very happy at the same time. 00:07:05.065 --> 00:07:11.370 No, exactly, that's fine, right, exactly, business is a Well, it's like it's even competitive thing. 00:07:11.370 --> 00:07:12.331 In that sense it's. 00:07:12.331 --> 00:07:14.533 Maybe that finally happened the right. 00:07:14.533 --> 00:07:16.435 The gauntlet is over. 00:07:16.435 --> 00:07:17.817 Maybe not necessarily. 00:07:17.817 --> 00:07:21.543 I'm sure a lot of stores are still entering the market. 00:07:21.543 --> 00:07:23.410 But this Dude, this weed's dank,

how much is this? 00:07:23.410 --> 00:07:24.834 31 bucks, I think we tried, plus tax. 00:07:24.834 --> 00:07:26.137 Dude, yeah, I'm very impressed. 00:07:26.137 --> 00:07:27.161 I'm excited to try this. 00:07:27.521 --> 00:07:28.564 Yeah, shout out Tiki. 00:07:28.564 --> 00:07:30.326 What was his name? 00:07:30.326 --> 00:07:36.336 Tiki Madman, tiki Madman, yeah, okay, there you go, I'll check out Tiki Madman. 00:07:36.336 --> 00:07:37.841 We'll look more into that. 00:07:37.841 --> 00:07:39.903 Carly, look into who Tiki? 00:07:39.903 --> 00:07:42.526 Thanks, I don't know. 00:07:42.526 --> 00:07:44.148 I don't know. 00:07:44.148 --> 00:07:44.968 I thought it was great. 00:07:44.968 --> 00:07:45.769 I've never heard of him. 00:07:45.769 --> 00:07:46.750 It's a great nickname. 00:07:46.750 --> 00:07:47.591 It's a new job. 00:07:47.591 --> 00:07:48.273 I'm definitely. 00:07:48.273 --> 00:07:49.975 Uh, we are impressed, that's for sure. 00:07:49.975 --> 00:07:51.956 So, yeah, back to our, our guests. 00:07:51.956 --> 00:07:53.184 He's all the way from Windsor too. 00:07:53.184 --> 00:07:56.204 Um, windsor, show me our stickers. 00:07:57.088 --> 00:08:07.362 Fucking, uh, known legal side like kind of does work in both design work, um, and and all sorts of branding and marketing and stuff. 00:08:07.362 --> 00:08:10.050 So we're excited to kind of talk to him about all those things. 00:08:10.050 --> 00:08:13.384 Yeah, we never get to delve too too much into that. 00:08:13.384 --> 00:08:36.211 Um, you know what, I guess, goes behind a brand and what what it can mean to you know what someone stands for, uh, and ultimately how you stand out, right, yeah, um, it's been huge in what we've done, I'd say, and even a lot of the brands, especially in weed, we've seen that be super important as well. 00:08:36.211 --> 00:08:49.147 Um, I think that carryover hasn't really happened quite yet in the legal market, because I guess you can't do like cool stuff no oh yeah, no, we're not there yet. 00:08:50.269 --> 00:08:51.110 I don't think we ever will. 00:08:51.110 --> 00:08:52.474 Really, you know, I, I don't know. 00:08:52.474 --> 00:08:53.947 It sucks like america's crazy. 00:08:53.947 --> 00:08:57.303 Some of the stuff I saw in america you know what one I saw recently I thought it was so sick. 00:08:57.303 --> 00:08:58.226 What actually? 00:08:58.226 --> 00:09:00.856 On that note, it was like you know, musical cards. 00:09:00.856 --> 00:09:05.691 You don't buy a cartoon like a card yeah, was it on it. 00:09:05.750 --> 00:09:09.333 I think it was like Star Wars kind of with like the drippy Star Wars. 00:09:09.333 --> 00:09:11.466 It was like Darth Vader was the strain and you open the box. 00:09:11.466 --> 00:09:14.769 It was like dun, dun, dun, come on. 00:09:14.769 --> 00:09:15.879 Like the music, literally. 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:19.264 Like I was so impressed I was like that's pretty cool, right. 00:09:19.264 --> 00:09:23.506 And it looked like one of those little cereal boxes you know, like the boxes of like Frosted Flakes you got. 00:09:23.506 --> 00:09:24.369 Oh, that's fire. 00:09:24.389 --> 00:09:25.311 Like Porn Pops or whatever. 00:09:25.311 --> 00:09:26.293 I have like an eighth in it. 00:09:26.373 --> 00:09:28.845 Yeah, it was like I think it was like Vader Loops or something. 00:09:28.845 --> 00:09:40.025 You know what I mean, and it was like it was so cool, I was like I would buy that and then you open it and then the music goes. 00:09:40.025 --> 00:09:41.147 All this stuff's really expensive. 00:09:41.147 --> 00:09:42.388 I know that the the big, obviously. 00:09:42.388 --> 00:09:46.250 I think sushi, blue sushi is like 80 bucks, I think, or 60, isn't it? 00:09:46.250 --> 00:09:47.110 So how much is it? 00:09:47.110 --> 00:09:48.052 I think it's 80 bucks. 00:09:48.052 --> 00:09:50.933 I think it's 80 bucks, man, for an eighth US too. 00:09:51.434 --> 00:09:53.316 What do their bags and how do they look like? 00:09:53.576 --> 00:09:55.037 I bet you that's huge in there. 00:09:55.037 --> 00:10:01.447 And then also I would say that's supposed to be really good. 00:10:01.447 --> 00:10:02.389 Or the alien labs. 00:10:02.389 --> 00:10:04.352 I know that's like 70. 00:10:04.352 --> 00:10:07.738 I think he's a little bit more reasonable, like he's a little bit less, but it's not cheap. 00:10:07.738 --> 00:10:11.688 And then we're talking to you as the alien labs for three and a half grams alien labs. 00:10:11.688 --> 00:10:13.014 That was wild, yeah. 00:10:13.014 --> 00:10:15.922 Um, people think we get pay a lot. 00:10:15.961 --> 00:10:26.413 But I don't know no, I feel like lately I've been impressing americans most of the time depends um once in a while, but you gotta have the good weed in your back pocket. 00:10:26.413 --> 00:10:28.988 Hopefully, um, it's been getting better and better. 00:10:28.988 --> 00:10:31.245 I mean, you know I've been a want of gummies, want of gummies. 00:10:31.245 --> 00:10:31.767 Where are you? 00:10:31.767 --> 00:10:32.469 Where are you at? 00:10:32.469 --> 00:10:33.541 I think that that's weird. 00:10:33.541 --> 00:10:37.591 I've noticed a lot of like things are like disappearing right now, which is sad. 00:10:37.591 --> 00:10:42.325 I'm glad that um Sherbinsky's is back, cause they disappeared, disappeared for a minute. 00:10:42.325 --> 00:10:45.470 But I guess it all has to do with, like, the Bazaam thing and what I mean. 00:10:45.470 --> 00:10:48.913 The Bazaam, the like restructuring and the bankruptcy and stuff like that. 00:10:48.913 --> 00:10:49.355 Am I right? 00:10:49.355 --> 00:10:50.615 Yeah, I guess, pivot there. 00:10:52.482 --> 00:10:53.164 I don't know. 00:10:53.164 --> 00:11:07.193 No, no, I think that's like the nature of how the market is trending, like companies getting absorbed and then having to relist, right, and then that's its whole process with the OCS To like get a different SKU relisted. 00:11:07.193 --> 00:11:14.783 Yeah, because

even, like with the baby Jeter's now they come in the T-odd packages or whatever, right, yeah, you notice that. 00:11:14.783 --> 00:11:29.340 Yeah, so I think that's exactly what happens, right, when there's a shuffle, they just have to relist and it's a process because they'll have to sell through their existing stuff, relisting on the stock exchange under a different symbol or whatever, I guess, so to speak. 00:11:29.340 --> 00:11:31.466 I don't know, I just thought of that in my head for a second. 00:11:31.466 --> 00:11:33.030 Yeah, you always love saying that. 00:11:33.030 --> 00:11:37.110 It is kind of like that the calculated risks on products and stuff no, then I'm buying it. 00:11:37.130 --> 00:11:41.167 I feel like that's what we're doing, like you're buying it, that sometimes you get a dog and you're like god damn it. 00:11:41.167 --> 00:11:43.692 Yeah, I, I make no money on it, you just have to sell it. 00:11:43.692 --> 00:11:45.475 Sucks for like nothing. 00:11:45.475 --> 00:12:03.465 Yeah, that's kind of just always kind of how weeds been, though I will say, as somebody who's sold weed for a long time is or like yeah, rarely, or you buy too much of something that's good and then it's not good anymore because it's like it's there was a weird he wave and it was humid and horse your AC blue or some shit. 00:12:04.206 --> 00:12:13.398 Changes in the bags too, like, even like, yeah, right, yeah, I don't know, I don't know where I was going with that, but just the weed game's hard and it always has been. 00:12:13.398 --> 00:12:20.547 No, yeah, it's just sales at the end of the day, and sales are hard, yeah, and you gotta hustle that shit. 00:12:20.547 --> 00:12:28.047 Yes, maybe we can sue people and make another revenue stream now that we have the trademark. 00:12:28.047 --> 00:12:29.711 That's so like American, I don't know. 00:12:29.711 --> 00:12:33.005 I think it's just good that we protect the brand. 00:12:33.005 --> 00:12:34.481 Somebody told me we should open a store in New York. 00:12:34.481 --> 00:12:36.268 Oh, my god. 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:42.623 In New York, and then I had another joker from Europe say that and I was like what's dream, big man? 00:12:43.205 --> 00:12:43.888 Amsterdam baby. 00:12:44.500 --> 00:12:45.905 Wow, wouldn't that be cool. 00:12:45.905 --> 00:12:47.404 We'd start with somewhere like BC. 00:12:47.404 --> 00:12:51.264 We'd have to fly out like once a month for sure, you know, just to make sure everything was okay. 00:12:51.264 --> 00:12:53.311 That'd be ridiculous. 00:12:54.022 --> 00:12:55.206 It'd be a completely different game. 00:12:55.279 --> 00:13:00.980 Amsterdam told me that though I was like thanks, man, wait to do it in Amsterdam. 00:13:00.980 --> 00:13:05.085 Yeah, he was like you're shit, so European, no. 00:13:05.085 --> 00:13:07.908 Or he was like or Berlin, or whatever, because they're about to legalize. 00:13:07.908 --> 00:13:11.890 We're not from there you get, so cooked, I don't know. 00:13:12.292 --> 00:13:13.572 And you don't know anything. 00:13:13.832 --> 00:13:15.695 I don't know German law, Like you think. 00:13:15.735 --> 00:13:16.696 I'm going to interpret this. 00:13:16.696 --> 00:13:19.238 I know I just thought it was Use my compliance, use my. 00:13:19.317 --> 00:13:21.042 German compliance skills. 00:13:21.042 --> 00:13:23.446 I'm just saying, bro, this brand could be global. 00:13:23.446 --> 00:13:26.351 Yeah, that's true, that's true. 00:13:26.351 --> 00:13:27.801 That would be pretty cool, I think. 00:13:27.801 --> 00:13:29.645 Yeah, that'd be. 00:13:30.447 --> 00:13:37.730 You gotta dream, yeah yeah, I guess that's all I'm trying to say I feel you Dream your dreams, I feel you, I feel you. 00:13:37.730 --> 00:13:45.969 I would be curious to see, though, the overall closures and what's open and not. 00:13:45.969 --> 00:13:56.508 I do think in Toronto, like the city of Toronto, it's probably under 200 stores now, which I think historically had been like 220 to two. 00:13:56.508 --> 00:13:58.894 Sorry, what happened? 00:13:58.894 --> 00:14:01.486 I just act like a toddler sometimes because I live with one. 00:14:01.486 --> 00:14:02.350 I'm like, oh, no. 00:14:03.192 --> 00:14:03.875 Sorry, back to that. 00:14:03.875 --> 00:14:04.476 I just thought that was a. 00:14:04.476 --> 00:14:06.162 I'm like, oh no, sorry Back to that. 00:14:06.162 --> 00:14:07.025 I just thought it was a funny joke. 00:14:07.025 --> 00:14:09.726 I just find I catch myself doing that a lot. 00:14:09.726 --> 00:14:12.134 That's pretty funny. 00:14:13.238 --> 00:14:15.104 Or talking to people like they're fucking five. 00:14:15.104 --> 00:14:16.349 I'm like sorry, I'm really sorry. 00:14:16.349 --> 00:14:21.001 Don't talk to people like they're five, sorry. 00:14:21.001 --> 00:14:22.988 Or they're just like a kid and I don't even mean to. 00:14:22.988 --> 00:14:24.211 That's funny. 00:14:24.211 --> 00:14:26.642 Back on, you know, sorry. 00:14:26.642 --> 00:14:28.267 Or they're just like a kid and I don't even mean to. 00:14:28.267 --> 00:14:28.648 That's funny. 00:14:28.648 --> 00:14:29.571 Happens, happens when you're back on topic. 00:14:29.571 --> 00:14:31.717 I was just thought that was a funny thought. 00:14:31.717 --> 00:14:32.119 Yeah, no, definitely. 00:14:32.119 --> 00:14:45.114 Um, yeah, no, I think I wonder, because municipalities still haven't even opted in anyways, at least locally, in terms of our immediate, you know, I guess, continued search, um, but Mississauga. 00:14:45.114 --> 00:14:51.525 I saw and this was three months ago there was already 50, at least 50 applicants for Mississauga. 00:14:51.525 --> 00:14:52.427 Like proper, how many. 00:14:52.427 --> 00:14:53.029 That's crazy. 00:14:53.029 --> 00:14:54.160 There's a lot, I heard. 00:14:54.160 --> 00:14:56.186 It's not as fruitful as everybody thought it was going to be. 00:14:56.186 --> 00:14:57.107 I could see that. 00:14:57.107 --> 00:15:04.764 Um, I think that

probably going to take some time because probably the illicit market is still thriving there. 00:15:04.764 --> 00:15:09.668 Yeah, so they have to go through that initial phase of like the ones that kind of fizzle out. 00:15:10.148 --> 00:15:12.548 Yeah, I think I'm going to do the Dutch fold. 00:15:12.548 --> 00:15:14.360 Yeah, the Dutch fold. 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:22.549 I feel like that's it, though that's just like the cycle of I guess the capitalism attrition at work is moving in and then having some just closed. 00:15:22.549 --> 00:15:24.113 The weak ones who won't? 00:15:24.113 --> 00:15:24.975 Gary, baby. 00:15:24.975 --> 00:15:26.418 Oh yeah, I didn't get to drive hold up. 00:15:26.418 --> 00:15:32.772 Drive Hold the Gary the back cannon 67 cents. 00:15:32.772 --> 00:15:33.594 Shout out to them. 00:15:33.594 --> 00:15:35.136 I'm excited to try that on the break. 00:15:35.136 --> 00:15:37.883 Wow, with our guest Alan. 00:15:37.883 --> 00:15:39.553 I don't know his last name. 00:15:39.553 --> 00:15:40.596 I feel like a douchebag. 00:15:40.596 --> 00:15:42.240 What is it? 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.115 Alan Johnson, my guy? 00:15:45.115 --> 00:15:46.479 That's my guy. 00:15:46.479 --> 00:15:50.854 What Is that actually your last name, dude? 00:15:50.854 --> 00:15:52.618 Yeah. 00:15:52.697 --> 00:15:53.539 Okay, yeah. 00:15:54.361 --> 00:15:54.942 We'll be back. 00:15:54.942 --> 00:15:58.860 Follow us on Instagram at Higher Orbit. 00:15:58.860 --> 00:16:08.517 You can also find us on Spotify, youtube, all this stuff If you want to see what all we're doing, all the things that we do, what we talk on this show. 00:16:08.517 --> 00:16:11.990 We'll be back with Alan Johnson. 00:16:11.990 --> 00:16:14.038 We'll be back with Alan Johnson from Higher Visions. 00:16:14.038 --> 00:16:20.232 We are back. 00:16:20.232 --> 00:16:20.895 You're back. 00:16:20.895 --> 00:16:21.658 Yeah, it was your cue. 00:16:21.658 --> 00:16:23.375 Yeah, welcome to Higher Orbit. 00:16:23.375 --> 00:16:26.599 Our guest, alan Johnson in the house. 00:16:26.599 --> 00:16:28.979 He's the owner and founder of Hybrid Visions. 00:16:28.979 --> 00:16:33.475 From the sounds of it, it's like you do a lot of the fucking stickering. 00:16:33.475 --> 00:16:35.722 As far as I know, packaging there's a lot behind the scenes that goes. 00:16:35.722 --> 00:16:42.356 As far as I know, um, packaging, like there's a lot behind the scenes that goes into a brand and again, packaging. 00:16:42.356 --> 00:16:48.251 And yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome to high road. 00:16:48.251 --> 00:16:50.620 Thank you, yeah, man, thanks for coming, no problem. 00:16:50.620 --> 00:16:53.091 Yeah, all the way from windsor uh, love windsor. 00:16:53.130 --> 00:16:56.783 Shout out to windsor heck yeah, yeah, best pizza and country. 00:16:56.783 --> 00:16:59.634 I think, oh, what a cornmeal right. 00:16:59.634 --> 00:17:00.677 Yeah, it's the. 00:17:00.677 --> 00:17:17.787 It's the deal, yeah, with the cooking it with the

crust and across in the little yeah, or meals cut up, pepperoni though like they do like a vert cheese like the Detroit style right yeah, they use a local oh is that cheese and they they like. 00:17:17.787 --> 00:17:22.277 It's just that cheese that makes the pizza and the sauce is more like a sweet sauce. 00:17:23.132 --> 00:17:24.135 And then you got the cornmeal. 00:17:24.135 --> 00:17:25.353 I fucking love pizza. 00:17:25.353 --> 00:17:26.357 Which one do you like, Capri? 00:17:27.111 --> 00:17:27.531 What do you like? 00:17:27.531 --> 00:17:32.199 Capri's good, I like Armando's, armando's. 00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:35.755 Arcata yeah, all of those. 00:17:36.036 --> 00:17:36.457 All of those. 00:17:36.457 --> 00:17:39.513 They're all good, a lot of good pizza. 00:17:39.855 --> 00:17:43.857 Yeah, Fair, I do like I can't really eat pizza anymore, but I do. 00:17:43.857 --> 00:17:46.174 There's a the pizza city you've never heard of. 00:17:46.636 --> 00:17:50.074 That's a little what A little documentary on it, If you ever want to. 00:17:50.094 --> 00:17:50.855 That's a spot there. 00:17:51.174 --> 00:17:53.720 Yeah, no, on Windsor Pie. 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:59.561 It's called the Pizza City You've Never Heard Of Okay, and you can look it up on the internet. 00:17:59.561 --> 00:18:00.148 I'm sure you watch it. 00:18:00.148 --> 00:18:01.575 That's dope, there you go. 00:18:01.997 --> 00:18:03.935 Yeah, man, you're like a puppet master kind of. 00:18:03.935 --> 00:18:05.432 I guess I think about it that way. 00:18:05.432 --> 00:18:07.800 Right, you're behind the scenes, you're making a few happen. 00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:09.471 What. 00:18:09.512 --> 00:18:10.750 Did I say that before Do? 00:18:10.770 --> 00:18:12.096 I say that a lot, damn it. 00:18:12.636 --> 00:18:13.557 Alright, I did retract. 00:18:13.577 --> 00:18:15.300 We're going to cut that out Retracted. 00:18:15.300 --> 00:18:17.544 No, Sean loves a puppet master. 00:18:17.544 --> 00:18:23.275 Well, I don't know, man, it's just like it's nice to get people like that are like doing stuff and you don't even necessarily think about it. 00:18:23.275 --> 00:18:30.112 Yeah, Helping people execute their brands with their slaps and the and the jar covers and the and all the dope stuff you do for people. 00:18:30.112 --> 00:18:37.845 So like, where did you get into this thing and where did the inspiration come to start Hybrid Visions. 00:18:38.911 --> 00:18:43.521 Well, I started printing and graphics basically like over 10 years ago. 00:18:43.521 --> 00:18:50.777 So I started a little company locally and that's you know. 00:18:50.777 --> 00:18:54.084 My friends and family started, you know, supporting that. 00:18:54.084 --> 00:19:02.221 And then I became bigger locally and was able to like kind of sustain you know us clientele and and the kind of people that I wanted to work with. 00:19:02.300 --> 00:19:18.750 And then, uh, coming into the cannabis side of things, it was like um, more of taking pictures of my weed and I got into like on Instagram, like these people that these producers, these growers, they would start following me, whatever. 00:19:18.750 --> 00:19:28.869 And, uh, they saw my work and they reach out and most, most people would reach out at the beginning about for, like photography, because I, that's all I was focused on at the time. 00:19:28.869 --> 00:19:34.842 And, uh, I kind of pivoted because my main business was printing and graphics. 00:19:34.842 --> 00:19:41.376 So, like I was like you know what I'm just going to focus in branding, printing, merch. 00:19:41.376 --> 00:19:52.134 You know what I was doing already, right, um and and kind of bring it over to the like, the market, like the cannabis community and all these guys that were interested in my photos. 00:19:52.134 --> 00:20:01.015 But, at the same time, like photo photography wasn't as thriving to me as you know because it was I was doing this as like. 00:20:01.296 --> 00:20:01.717 I was feeding it. 00:20:01.717 --> 00:20:04.116 Like you know, this is my full-time job, Like type thing. 00:20:04.176 --> 00:20:05.990 It wasn't we photography, you're just doing photography. 00:20:06.130 --> 00:20:11.858 I was doing photography and posting it online and then people were hitting me up like, hey, how do I get these? 00:20:11.858 --> 00:20:12.682 How do you do photos? 00:20:12.682 --> 00:20:14.853 How can I get photos like this for my my products? 00:20:14.853 --> 00:20:16.134 How can I get photos like this for my my products? 00:20:16.134 --> 00:20:16.334 Got it. 00:20:16.334 --> 00:20:25.465 And then you know, moving over that, realizing, like people realizing oh, you don't just, you don't just do photos, because it's like I wasn't really showing my printing side of things. 00:20:25.726 --> 00:20:25.965 Yes. 00:20:26.250 --> 00:20:33.682 So getting into the community was was from the photography side of things, just enjoying, just doing a hobby. 00:20:33.983 --> 00:20:34.644 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:38.430 --> 00:20:41.818 And then people, actually companies and LPs and everybody hitting me up and like no, we need these photos, how much do you charge? 00:20:41.818 --> 00:20:44.733 And I had no idea you know what to charge. 00:20:44.733 --> 00:20:46.719 Nothing, right, so. 00:20:46.719 --> 00:20:50.252 But then I was like you know what, maybe I should think about this. 00:20:50.252 --> 00:20:51.054 So I started. 00:20:51.054 --> 00:21:07.578 I started like drafting like contracts with for photography instead of you know, you know print, you know it's kind of like I was already an entrepreneur type, vibe kind of guy, so, um, I kind of got into it and then I was like you know what? 00:21:07.578 --> 00:21:15.398 That's kind of taking away from what I've already started, so like, which is the print and focusing on all that, and so why don't I? 00:21:15.439 --> 00:21:25.078 just kind of like use photography as like more of a conversation on like Instagram and on any social

media platforms and like that. 00:21:25.750 --> 00:21:27.155 Alan, have you ever had a rosette? 00:21:27.155 --> 00:21:27.698 The fun pivot. 00:21:27.698 --> 00:21:29.315 We got you a shot there on the baller. 00:21:29.315 --> 00:21:30.598 Yeah, yeah, yeah, printed those up. 00:21:30.598 --> 00:21:31.834 What flavor would you like? 00:21:31.834 --> 00:21:37.057 Yeah, I'll take a, have a look at these close up the strawberry, or the caramel, or the top of the peanut butter. 00:21:37.057 --> 00:21:38.919 You want this one. 00:21:38.919 --> 00:21:39.480 These ones are good. 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:41.903 I'll pass me one of those okay. 00:21:41.903 --> 00:21:43.304 I think that's the caramel peanut butter. 00:21:43.304 --> 00:21:45.386 It's cool that the hobby turned into something like. 00:21:46.270 --> 00:21:46.873 Some revenue. 00:21:46.873 --> 00:21:56.080 Yeah, and rosin, like Todd loved my, my photography right and I and he's been supporting me since like day one, and that's basically that's what's driven me into. 00:21:56.080 --> 00:21:57.773 What I'm doing right now. 00:21:57.773 --> 00:21:59.559 So shout out to a rosin heads. 00:22:01.510 --> 00:22:03.597 Go buy from their fire. 00:22:03.597 --> 00:22:07.291 Yum, really good. 00:22:07.291 --> 00:22:11.152 We are powered by rosin heads, if you didn't know, mmm. 00:22:11.152 --> 00:22:17.075 So how long have you had the, the caramel peanut butter, slowly becoming my favorite, I think? 00:22:17.075 --> 00:22:20.981 Oh, really, on that last note, how long, like have you been working for yourself? 00:22:20.981 --> 00:22:23.353 Uh, like, because I mean, well, I've been, yeah we're. 00:22:23.492 --> 00:22:36.140 I've been working doing my stuff like a side business off my full-time job, uh like from 2015, 2014, okay, yeah, like then. 00:22:36.441 --> 00:22:39.484 So hybrid visions has been around for almost 10 years. 00:22:39.690 --> 00:22:42.896 No, no, critical designs has been like my other business. 00:22:43.258 --> 00:22:43.417 Okay. 00:22:43.778 --> 00:22:47.953 Yeah, and then, and then I have like to like my. 00:22:47.953 --> 00:22:52.351 My other printing company isn't, isn't really targeting the cannabis uh industry. 00:22:52.351 --> 00:22:58.022 So to to you know, sort of target more of the cannabis industry and what I like to like. 00:22:58.022 --> 00:23:00.902 This is more fun to me that you know it's more. 00:23:00.902 --> 00:23:05.278 It's more exhilarating than dealing with a lot of the brands that I deal with on the other side. 00:23:05.278 --> 00:23:09.795 So, uh, it's good to have the balance of both. 00:23:09.955 --> 00:23:10.217 Yeah. 00:23:10.277 --> 00:23:21.432 So it kind of it kind of entered the cannabis industry, um, with hybrid visions, and that's why I I made it an entity kind of in itself. 00:23:21.432 --> 00:23:21.634 Okay, yeah. 00:23:21.634 --> 00:23:25.702 So yeah, like been doing that since 2019, 2020. 00:23:25.702 --> 00:23:32.180 I kind of hybrid visions came along around 2021 when, like finally, and birthed with the photos. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:44.222 Yeah right, yeah, yeah and then, and then, and then I started posting about what else I could do, which was design, branding, packaging, um, things like that, and even merch, like I've. 00:23:44.222 --> 00:23:47.136 This is all the stuff that I've, all I've done for years and years. 00:23:47.136 --> 00:23:53.039 So, um, I kind of just was like I'll bring it to the cannabis industry and it's been great, everybody loves it. 00:23:53.101 --> 00:24:00.863 So yeah, you also were so kind as to bring some of these amazing dabs and unreal turps here. 00:24:00.863 --> 00:24:03.260 Um, yeah, thanks for sharing those with us. 00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:05.931 On that note, I got to um, I'm gonna show another legal company. 00:24:05.931 --> 00:24:07.294 We love our friends at woody nelson. 00:24:07.294 --> 00:24:12.144 Um, shout out, um, I can't remember his name, walker. 00:24:12.144 --> 00:24:13.653 Hope you're doing well, walker. 00:24:13.653 --> 00:24:14.355 Hi, fidelity. 00:24:14.355 --> 00:24:15.419 This live rawson's fire. 00:24:15.419 --> 00:24:20.690 Dozy dope was really nice and clean, organic input, obviously, girl Scout Cookie Science. 00:24:20.690 --> 00:24:23.619 Yeah, it was really nice. 00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:26.816 But back to what you were saying yeah, these were just phenomenal. 00:24:26.816 --> 00:24:30.380 You actually, yeah, you made this. 00:24:30.380 --> 00:24:34.813 Yeah, canadian Dabs, oh man, yeah, so you did the artwork on the fruit jar. 00:24:34.893 --> 00:24:37.298 I did the artwork on the uh on the side wrap. 00:24:37.337 --> 00:24:39.020 Yeah, I had this just before. 00:24:39.020 --> 00:24:45.453 That was excellent, yeah, Um, so you've done like stuff for both legal and um and obviously legacy, and what do you find? 00:24:45.493 --> 00:25:03.096 the the biggest challenges are, uh, you know, just the rules, I guess obviously, yeah, legal side it's more regulation-based right or whatever the book says you got to go by. 00:25:03.096 --> 00:25:03.836 So it's pretty boring. 00:25:03.836 --> 00:25:05.939 It's a little more boring. 00:25:05.979 --> 00:25:12.086 It's like you got a two-color logo and it has to be this big and it has to have a big yellow warning symbol on it and for the legal side, right it's all the same. 00:25:20.009 --> 00:25:21.253 So obviously you enjoy doing the legacy shit all the time. 00:25:21.253 --> 00:25:24.144 Yeah, I way more enjoy doing like people that I that hit me up and say do whatever, here's what I have. 00:25:24.144 --> 00:25:31.049 So I work off their creativity, like kind of thing in their vision and just bring whatever and they and they're just like wow, like okay, you know what I mean. 00:25:31.049 --> 00:25:34.936 Like yeah, they kind of give you more free reign than the, the legal side. 00:25:34.936 --> 00:25:37.902 The legal side is, you know specific things, right? 00:25:37.902 --> 00:25:42.497 So,

um, this side is still not regulated in that way. 00:25:42.497 --> 00:25:44.421 So you get more. 00:25:44.421 --> 00:25:48.440 You get to like, just like you said, in uh, like the american, like uh market. 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:49.845 Like there's the packaging. 00:25:49.845 --> 00:25:53.737 The packaging is completely different and I wish it could be like that over here. 00:25:53.977 --> 00:26:09.990 Like that would be awesome, you know what's is interesting on that note, though, the kind of integration of um stickers, I would say, especially in the legal uh cannabis market, like at the store which, by the way, we're open and we're from the back of the shop right now. 00:26:09.990 --> 00:26:14.721 Um order us on uber eats we're available I'm fired up. 00:26:14.721 --> 00:26:19.442 Yeah, no, hey, you threw me off track, god sorry. 00:26:19.442 --> 00:26:20.605 No, no, that's okay. 00:26:20.625 --> 00:26:25.903 I had to plug it yeah, the stickers like uh, just like how important that is in a sense actually. 00:26:25.903 --> 00:26:32.239 Um, for some of these legal brands to kind of get their brand out like do anything. 00:26:32.239 --> 00:26:37.621 That's kind of fun, because it's not a part of the cannabis packaging yeah um, and I would say it's. 00:26:37.740 --> 00:26:54.510 It's kind of like it's cool and and funny in a way, like how much of the sticker culture there is and like people cover their laptops and like my bike is actually covered yeah, yeah, um, no, people love them, people collect them, people have walls or you know your your fridge, your turp fridges or whatever. 00:26:54.510 --> 00:26:56.756 Yeah, the fridge, everywhere, turp fridge. 00:26:56.796 --> 00:26:59.722 Yeah, yeah, they're a cool asset to have. 00:27:00.851 --> 00:27:02.336 People kind of collect the jars even too. 00:27:02.829 --> 00:27:07.577 Yeah, some people have graveyards of their old terp jars, you know, and they look at the artwork on there, right. 00:27:07.577 --> 00:27:28.502 And so I think a lot of the producers, and especially the legacy market, like to support like artists that are doing drawing and just digital artwork in general, or whatever, and just go and having fun with it and making something that they you know, that like compliments their terps inside that jar. 00:27:28.502 --> 00:27:28.963 You know what I mean. 00:27:29.211 --> 00:27:30.174 It is very cool to see. 00:27:30.174 --> 00:27:47.470 It kind of gave me an idea I almost want to do it is have one of those little like um machines where you maybe put in like a toonie or whatever and go and you, you know you remember those things yeah, yeah, oh, I do, yeah pops out, I'd be pretty fired they had some cool ones, they had some right like if we had some cool stickers and fired that up. 00:27:48.232 --> 00:27:51.825 No, yeah, I know, I know people do love them, so that would be cool. 00:27:51.825 --> 00:27:54.152 All right, you might have to turn more than two moments. 00:27:54.152 --> 00:28:00.481 So, yeah, yeah, premium stickers are premium for a reason. 00:28:00.481 --> 00:28:02.305 My friends, I know why not, man. 00:28:02.305 --> 00:28:02.605 Plug it. 00:28:02.605 --> 00:28:06.777 What are some of your key services, man, and what's your secret sauce? 00:28:06.777 --> 00:28:07.759 You know? 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:08.361 Hook us up. 00:28:09.230 --> 00:28:13.349 Mostly I'm in the print and design and branding. 00:28:13.349 --> 00:28:41.904 So like, if you need packaging like or logo, design um things like that, um, a lot of uh, brand like assets would be things like logo marks or any sort of assets you could, you could think of with marketing, um your business, even merch Um, but yeah, like mainly print, merch um, design, design, branding, stuff like that You're trying to think something crazy. 00:28:43.413 --> 00:28:44.616 Could you help us do knapsacks? 00:28:44.616 --> 00:28:46.521 Yeah, yeah absolutely Absolutely. 00:28:47.873 --> 00:28:48.213 You could like. 00:28:48.213 --> 00:28:49.999 This is like a little embroider patch. 00:28:50.058 --> 00:28:50.441 I did that. 00:28:51.009 --> 00:28:55.859 Yeah, patches and stuff like that you can just heat, press them on yourself, or you can get me to do it. 00:28:55.859 --> 00:28:57.394 You know, let's's chat. 00:28:57.535 --> 00:29:05.001 I was thinking we buy like a bulk batch of some ones we like and then like somehow brand them cosmetrallis, but my whole idea was like it looks like a jet pack. 00:29:05.403 --> 00:29:08.636 I don't know how we do it, but this would somehow you make it look like like a rocket pack. 00:29:08.636 --> 00:29:10.664 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? 00:29:10.664 --> 00:29:11.428 That'd be cool. 00:29:11.428 --> 00:29:14.355 Anyways, I don't know if that was my crazy idea I had. 00:29:14.355 --> 00:29:18.202 We can make it come to life, don't worry, that's a pretty wild idea. 00:29:18.202 --> 00:29:23.159 Yeah, no, I think it's Like Boba Fett's backpack, you know, but it's like it's not. 00:29:23.159 --> 00:29:29.281 You know, like the painted tuxedo, but it's like painted on like a moon pack you know, Sean's wild. 00:29:29.423 --> 00:29:34.093 Sean's wild, yeah, what does that process look like for you? 00:29:34.093 --> 00:29:44.814 Because I feel like, again, depending on what you're trying to do and how specific you get into it, but what's it like, I guess, working on brands, yeah. 00:29:44.894 --> 00:29:47.703 Every brand has their own level of like what they want to do. 00:29:47.703 --> 00:29:51.714 You can go from like you know, I just need a logo to slap on my stuff to. 00:29:51.714 --> 00:30:03.173 I need a whole you know brand identity and I need whole brand identity and I need specific rules throughout my life and my brand. 00:30:03.173 --> 00:30:05.699 So they need guidelines to tell their designers or their people that they work with. 00:30:05.699 --> 00:30:07.762 So I do stuff like that. 00:30:07.762 --> 00:30:23.325 That's more behind

the scenes, like you said, where I'm giving basically the brand their guidelines to keeping their brand consistent, making sure the imaging is all the same. 00:30:23.325 --> 00:30:24.470 You know things like that. 00:30:24.470 --> 00:30:31.298 So there's there's that level of things and then there's just levels of like where I just need a logo, just just make me whatever. 00:30:31.419 --> 00:30:33.172 Yeah you know, I have a hundred bucks. 00:30:33.172 --> 00:30:41.240 And then there's you know you can, are somebody that you know is looking for the longevity of things, and they're they're, they're serious into things. 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:55.942 You can spend a lot of money and a lot of time into the brand, right so, and to make it successful, and, and it starts with, starts with the design and and, uh, how you're going to execute and get it into the market. 00:30:55.942 --> 00:31:00.317 Because, you know, not in the cannabis industry, let's say like you can't really stand out here. 00:31:00.317 --> 00:31:05.759 I mean like, but yeah that's it. 00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:06.301 Yeah. 00:31:06.770 --> 00:31:08.351 Take us behind the scenes, buddy, like. 00:31:08.992 --> 00:31:19.682 what's your process like when you, when you work with clients, to kind of they'll hit me up They'll usually on Instagram or email and inquire what they need. 00:31:19.682 --> 00:31:22.510 And let's say you're running, I need. 00:31:22.510 --> 00:31:26.901 I need to do a couple slaps or jar labels on. 00:31:26.921 --> 00:31:28.242 You know I'm dropping. 00:31:28.671 --> 00:31:33.699 I'm dropping you know A new drop for my, my rosin or whatever I do. 00:31:33.699 --> 00:31:37.019 I deal with a lot of hash makers, that's so, that's fun. 00:31:37.019 --> 00:31:42.230 So that's mainly the stickers, and printing I deal with is hash making Makers. 00:31:42.230 --> 00:31:46.660 I don't deal with a lot of growers or flower or anything like that. 00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:47.761 Well, it's the new wave. 00:31:47.761 --> 00:31:48.943 Right Rawson's the new wave. 00:31:48.943 --> 00:31:50.935 Amazing connections to have too. 00:31:50.935 --> 00:31:52.279 I know You're working with these guys. 00:31:54.334 --> 00:31:55.097 It's pretty awesome. 00:31:55.097 --> 00:32:01.279 There's some really cool um producers out there and they're really cool people. 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.928 They're a lot of just trying to support their family. 00:32:02.928 --> 00:32:10.810 You know, doing, they're doing their thing right and um, but they get it and uh, they support it all and yeah, so they'll. 00:32:10.810 --> 00:32:15.221 They'll hit me up and I will kind of listen to what they have to say, what they want. 00:32:15.221 --> 00:32:16.933 Sometimes they just say do whatever. 00:32:16.933 --> 00:32:18.278 This is. 00:32:18.417 --> 00:32:22.308 You know, this is the budget and I trust you kind of thing well no, it's no. 00:32:22.328 --> 00:32:27.920 I I usually yeah, I usually make the like okay, you

need a logo, what, what you know? 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:29.844 Where are you going with it? 00:32:29.844 --> 00:32:34.842 You know, and then kind of where, where we should go with like pricing and all that stuff like that. 00:32:34.842 --> 00:32:36.153 There's a lot of proposals. 00:32:36.153 --> 00:32:36.776 There's a lot of proposals. 00:32:36.776 --> 00:32:38.380 There's a lot of, you know, especially the legal market. 00:32:38.380 --> 00:32:45.096 It's like they want to see like proposals and they want to see everything and it's like this is not the same as the legacy. 00:32:45.096 --> 00:32:45.880 They don't, they don't. 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.410 They want to see the stuff you're doing in action on Instagram and to get to get to those clients. 00:32:51.410 --> 00:32:52.554 It's a totally different. 00:32:52.554 --> 00:33:05.093 Yeah, it's quite a process and it takes a lot to just produce one little jar, you know, do you want? 00:33:05.113 --> 00:33:07.381 to realize I think you're going to tell us about this little mood mat. 00:33:07.381 --> 00:33:07.903 Yeah, yeah. 00:33:07.903 --> 00:33:08.894 So yeah, munger. 00:33:08.953 --> 00:33:10.239 Matt, you want to hold that up? 00:33:10.239 --> 00:33:11.576 Yeah from Hope Society. 00:33:11.576 --> 00:33:16.102 He sent me some of these jars for today, like for us to smoke. 00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:18.031 Yeah, that was so generous, so shout out to him. 00:33:18.031 --> 00:33:18.852 Thank you very much. 00:33:19.173 --> 00:33:22.316 And that's one of the brands that I've worked with recently. 00:33:22.336 --> 00:33:23.436 Yeah, he's trying to give back. 00:33:23.436 --> 00:33:24.738 This is for charity, right? 00:33:24.758 --> 00:34:05.916 Yeah, so he's a legacy guy and he's just trying to get all the top-end hash makers growers together and he's giving access to people know access for people to you know purchase that and and then part of the purchase goes to um, his, uh, his cause, which is which is pretty cool it's like every jar, every, any, any product you're gonna get, it's gonna go to you know a fund for mental health and, uh, an addiction if somebody needs direction or help and there'll be some you know way to do it to, you know, instead of just yeah that's awesome. 00:34:06.258 --> 00:34:13.141 And buy those jars and 10 bucks each, you'll go to that um foundation and that's a cool the hope society that's what it's called the hope society. 00:34:13.161 --> 00:34:18.391 Yeah, yeah, so um and that's the touching story that was really cool somebody uh kind of like the tree of life. 00:34:18.490 --> 00:34:21.798 You know you want to give back, so we're happy to shut that out. 00:34:21.798 --> 00:34:23.061 That's very nice. 00:34:23.061 --> 00:34:27.257 I guess are we gonna get even more stone, gentlemen. 00:34:27.297 --> 00:34:29.597 Yeah, I got a jar in my hand, I don't know which. 00:34:29.597 --> 00:34:30.815 I think you should try that water. 00:34:30.815 --> 00:34:32.313 Yeah, should we

do the water? 00:34:32.313 --> 00:34:39.653 Oh, dude, the 33rd that's not unreal 33rd degree extracts out in BC, and then I think I'll water own smack hole Shout out. 00:34:39.653 --> 00:34:41.436 We're going to try that We'll come back. 00:34:41.818 --> 00:34:43.842 Oh, and we found out who the Tiki Madman is. 00:34:43.842 --> 00:34:45.434 Oh, there you go, tiki Madman. 00:34:45.434 --> 00:34:47.648 Carly Boomersad has over 57 genetics. 00:34:47.648 --> 00:34:47.909 58. 00:34:47.909 --> 00:34:48.875 Gary Satan was nice. 00:34:48.875 --> 00:34:52.278 The Gary Satan was really nice, so shout out to him Great cut. 00:34:52.278 --> 00:35:10.139 If you're looking for like burnt rubber chirps and like a little bit of gas and it was very good, shout out, we'll be right back on Higher Orbit with our homie Alan Johnson. 00:35:10.139 --> 00:35:10.780 We're back. 00:35:10.780 --> 00:35:14.364 We were just talking about sticker sheets in the 90s and we had sticker sheets, so we should do more of them. 00:35:14.364 --> 00:35:17.380 I still I like my machine idea. 00:35:17.380 --> 00:35:18.855 Yeah, I like that idea. 00:35:19.469 --> 00:35:21.710 The machine where you used to get the stickers out of them the sticker machine. 00:35:22.532 --> 00:35:24.277 I know, but where do you get those machines? 00:35:24.277 --> 00:35:24.800 Do they exist? 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.516 Yeah, they're from like 90s too. 00:35:26.516 --> 00:35:26.836 You know what? 00:35:26.836 --> 00:35:28.715 I'll make a note and we'll look into it. 00:35:28.715 --> 00:35:30.159 Make a note, bruh. 00:35:30.690 --> 00:35:31.876 I'm going to have another coin. 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:34.960 Shout out to Rosenheads Do you want another chocolate on? 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.271 Yeah, what's the coin like? 00:35:36.271 --> 00:35:38.556 Oh, I have a coin in the back there. 00:35:38.556 --> 00:35:39.637 He had some other coins. 00:35:39.657 --> 00:35:40.760 There's only five milligrams. 00:35:42.503 --> 00:35:47.086 Todd, if you're listening, I'm not busting your balls, but I wouldn't mind a new flea would drop on one day. 00:35:47.086 --> 00:35:48.233 That would be fire. 00:35:48.233 --> 00:35:49.731 I don't know if he's got it in the no anymore. 00:35:49.731 --> 00:35:50.092 Are you good? 00:35:50.092 --> 00:35:51.438 No, I'm good. 00:35:51.438 --> 00:35:53.114 Coin is fire. 00:35:53.114 --> 00:35:54.130 I'm good, I'm good. 00:35:54.130 --> 00:35:57.338 All those delicious dabs were so delicious. 00:35:57.338 --> 00:35:58.581 Smackles was fire. 00:35:58.581 --> 00:36:03.880 Shout out once again to our friends we didn't. 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.298 The Hope Society, where $10 goes, it is Munger Melts, our homie Munger Melts. 00:36:07.298 --> 00:36:09.557 So go buy jars. 00:36:09.557 --> 00:36:15.476 Alan did the artwork in the box, so that's like that thumper. 00:36:16.090 --> 00:36:16.452 It's a Joe. 00:36:16.472 --> 00:36:17.032 Boy Pink. 00:36:17.032 --> 00:36:20.342 Yeah, it was fantastic those assets, market assets. 00:36:20.342 --> 00:36:21.389 Yeah, you worked with him. 00:36:21.389 --> 00:36:23.190 Yeah, it was fantastic those assets, marketing assets. 00:36:23.451 --> 00:36:24.552 Yeah, those are some of the shit you do. 00:36:24.552 --> 00:36:25.413 You worked with him. 00:36:25.432 --> 00:36:26.233 Yeah, oh, yeah, I did everything. 00:36:26.253 --> 00:36:32.597 He came to me and said I'm going to start Hope Society and I need a box design, I need a logo, I need all of it, right? 00:36:32.597 --> 00:36:33.556 Oh, that's so cool. 00:36:33.556 --> 00:36:38.840 Yeah, so I've done what I can for him and he's done what he can for me, and it's been a good collaboration. 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:39.920 So that's cool. 00:36:40.541 --> 00:36:41.222 I really shout out. 00:36:41.222 --> 00:36:46.003 Matt, do you think there's some wiggle room in the legal market to do something cool? 00:36:46.003 --> 00:36:47.744 Because, like you know what I saw, I don't know. 00:36:47.744 --> 00:36:49.927 Have you seen there's some brands trying to like? 00:36:49.987 --> 00:36:50.867 push boundaries. 00:36:50.867 --> 00:36:51.427 You know what I mean. 00:36:51.427 --> 00:36:52.608 Yeah, that I know. 00:36:52.608 --> 00:36:58.021 And I mean I'm just the guy that they come to to you know. 00:36:58.021 --> 00:37:07.050 Produce the thing so like I don you know. 00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:08.996 Produce the things so like I don't know exactly what they want sometimes in their mind. 00:37:08.996 --> 00:37:16.034 But there's some like I'm working right now currently with like some that are like, well, how about we just make sticker sheets or whatever that uh, match the size of our jars and we're not putting them on? 00:37:16.094 --> 00:37:25.097 but if we just put them out, somebody can put them on and then just make a cool jar so that they have a jar and maybe they can just fill that jar or whatever. 00:37:25.097 --> 00:37:25.840 You know what I mean. 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:36.795 So they're trying to all these kind of ideas to like make it kind of like a legacy thing like vibe, but you know, without breaking the rules of I swear I saw maybe I'm wrong a bolo. 00:37:36.815 --> 00:37:40.802 When you open it, the jar has something on top. 00:37:40.802 --> 00:37:42.257 I don't know if you've seen that. 00:37:42.257 --> 00:37:43.224 Maybe I been mistaken. 00:37:43.224 --> 00:37:55.170 Maybe what do you mean on the underside, like, is it laser etched in a mylar bag but then within the mylar bag it's within a standard mason jar and on top of the mason jar is the sticker and they had a sticker. 00:37:55.289 --> 00:38:00.371 See, I've asked brands for like stuff trying to pull that off, and they're like no, we can't put stickers inside the bag. 00:38:00.371 --> 00:38:07.864 We can't put sticker on like and I get it in it in in the regulations and stuff that set out through health canada, you can't right. 00:38:08.085 --> 00:38:10.295 But maybe people go for it.

00:38:10.295 --> 00:38:12.481 That would be fun if it was just like under the lid. 00:38:12.481 --> 00:38:13.913 Well, think about yeah. 00:38:13.952 --> 00:38:17.539 I said why can't you put a sticker in inside a bag? 00:38:17.539 --> 00:38:18.101 I like that. 00:38:18.141 --> 00:38:35.059 I like yeah, you know I don't know are there any like trends, alan, you're noticing recently when it comes to like the packaging game it's just whatever, like the higher, the highest level of like uh, one last coolest looking uh you know thing you can make, really. 00:38:35.059 --> 00:38:37.231 So I mean, that's what it's about. 00:38:37.231 --> 00:38:41.021 Like, I think a lot of people are just like, oh, like, how far can you take this? 00:38:41.021 --> 00:38:43.351 Uh, you know this, this packaging, or this, this sticker, this, it's been a lot of uh are just like, oh, like, how far can you take this? 00:38:43.351 --> 00:38:49.925 Uh, you know this, this packaging, or this, this sticker, this, it's been a lot of uh, the hype with the raised, the raised uh effects. 00:38:49.925 --> 00:38:54.338 Now with the you know, the uv printers out there now are are great. 00:38:54.338 --> 00:38:56.130 There's how it does that yeah, how does that? 00:38:56.150 --> 00:38:56.451 how does that? 00:38:56.471 --> 00:38:56.692 work. 00:38:56.692 --> 00:39:00.179 So I like it's a, it's a uv roll to roll printer. 00:39:00.179 --> 00:39:06.153 So like um, it's rolls of vinyl and you're just printing on vinyl and then you can. 00:39:06.153 --> 00:39:10.853 You can have machines that like I have a machine that cuts and prints so it will die. 00:39:10.853 --> 00:39:16.143 Cut out like the shape whatever shape I want and then, um, yeah, they have. 00:39:16.364 --> 00:39:23.382 And then the, the ink is a uv curable ink which, uh, it's like if a girl gets her nails done. 00:39:23.382 --> 00:39:24.764 They put that lamp underneath. 00:39:24.764 --> 00:39:32.217 There's a lamp on the print head that, like, cures the ink instantly and that's how you can get a layered effect. 00:39:32.217 --> 00:39:35.539 And, yeah, any matte finish, clear finish over top. 00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:40.230 You know there's a lot of different cool things that these printers, the technology is crazy. 00:39:40.230 --> 00:39:45.436 You could go so far, right, you can go so far, but how, how far? 00:39:46.038 --> 00:39:46.981 how far do you want to go? 00:39:46.981 --> 00:39:48.286 How expensive? 00:39:48.327 --> 00:39:59.177 this shit must be expensive it's, it's pricey, um, and not because of the materials, I don't think, or the inks haven't been expensive or anything, it's more of the time they haven't dialed in. 00:39:59.177 --> 00:40:10.563 Uh, the machines like the, the time it takes to print you know a hundred of these like crazy stickers is is isn't in enormous compared to if I just ran it on my other machine. 00:40:10.563 --> 00:40:15.481 That doesn't do any crazy effects, it just prints CMYK color and that's it right. 00:40:15.481 --> 00:40:30.815 But there's others, there's, there's a whole bunch like that's a whole different thing, like print industry, like you know what's more efficient, what's not right in the print industry, like there's a whole different topics there, right. 00:40:30.836 --> 00:40:31.117 So fair enough. 00:40:31.117 --> 00:40:38.501 So, like it's it kind of just following trends, and the trends are with, especially, the legacy side and the hash rosin jars. 00:40:38.501 --> 00:40:39.503 They're all you know. 00:40:39.503 --> 00:40:40.592 They. 00:40:40.592 --> 00:40:42.496 They're a premium product, right. 00:40:42.496 --> 00:40:46.335 So, uh, they, a lot of them, want premium looking jars. 00:40:46.335 --> 00:40:47.577 That you know. 00:40:47.577 --> 00:41:15.056 And that's how you can effectively effectively make something like look cooler or make it look uh like on the shelf or in someone's instagram uh story pop out, you know, in somebody you know, or and a lot, of, a lot of the Instagram guys on it there or girls whoever, yeah, like they, they just show off the artwork that's on the jars and on their bags of weed and stuff. 00:41:15.096 --> 00:41:22.757 So it's kind of like art, I feel like it is. 00:41:22.757 --> 00:41:23.860 It kind of has become that way. 00:41:23.860 --> 00:41:37.335 If you look at some like back to I know I already mentioned the American stuff and what's going on in some other kind of markets yeah, you really see people cherishing it and holding on to it Collecting the jars A lot of people that collect the jars that they buy. 00:41:38.076 --> 00:41:40.659 That's cool and you know I swear on Reddit. 00:41:40.659 --> 00:41:42.842 You know as well, just like you speak of collecting. 00:41:42.842 --> 00:41:45.585 Sorry, someone made like a duffel bag out of their packaging. 00:41:45.585 --> 00:41:47.697 I think it was caramel bags, pre-rolled bags. 00:41:47.697 --> 00:41:51.099 I saw somebody who's been doing that, where they can make like a vest or a hat. 00:41:51.099 --> 00:41:55.420 Sorry, just in the sake of it sucks that we make a lot of packaging. 00:41:55.420 --> 00:41:57.478 That is unfortunate. 00:41:57.478 --> 00:42:01.836 I think I'll pass on the bright orange caramel packaging suit. 00:42:01.836 --> 00:42:03.440 But you know personally. 00:42:04.342 --> 00:42:05.043 It's a funny idea. 00:42:08.730 --> 00:42:14.724 It's not a bad idea, but I don't think it's going to, unless you can somehow make the color like shredded and make it look like more like a how would I describe it? 00:42:14.724 --> 00:42:16.076 Like a pattern. 00:42:16.076 --> 00:42:18.958 Oh, it'd be made of mylar, though It'd be shit. 00:42:18.958 --> 00:42:21.592 I don't know, man, I'm just speaking out loud. 00:42:21.592 --> 00:42:23.074 I just don't really want to walk around. 00:42:23.074 --> 00:42:29.480 Anyway, she followed me okay, you have to repurpose it into something else for me to actually want to wear it yeah,

there's a lot of more neutral. 00:42:29.500 --> 00:42:40.012 A lot of waste, yeah, yeah I guess, that's a whole other story too, yeah, um well, do you find there's any like recycling, let's say in the nest either? 00:42:40.012 --> 00:42:41.536 No, no, there's none. 00:42:41.956 --> 00:42:48.222 And it sucks because we were me and you know me and canadian dabs are just talking and he's like man, what could you do? 00:42:48.222 --> 00:42:55.420 That's like you know, biodegradable and stuff like just in, and it's like, yeah, I I want to but for what? 00:42:55.420 --> 00:42:56.784 For what everybody wants. 00:42:56.784 --> 00:43:03.230 There's really no way of doing it, so it is what it is right, I really like the three different jars you brought. 00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:08.402 I know you brought four even, but uh yeah yeah, yeah, just like in the some of my favorites there. 00:43:08.402 --> 00:43:09.391 So that's it. 00:43:09.431 --> 00:43:13.641 Like we got gas town like I like how the gas town just looks so like tally man. 00:43:13.641 --> 00:43:13.922 That was. 00:43:13.949 --> 00:43:18.193 Tally man is the strain the fruit fruit joy, yeah, fruit joy. 00:43:18.193 --> 00:43:22.998 One from canadianabs and we got some Smackles. 00:43:23.099 --> 00:43:23.278 Which. 00:43:23.539 --> 00:43:28.063 I don't know exactly what the cross is here, watermelon. 00:43:29.324 --> 00:43:30.907 Yeah, it was amazing. 00:43:31.130 --> 00:43:35.739 I think that was my favorite one, the Smackles, yeah it's one of my favorites this year, for sure, for sure. 00:43:35.739 --> 00:43:41.541 Definitely, like those candy turps In particular projects in the past. 00:43:41.561 --> 00:43:45.594 You're really proud of that, like you'd love to highlight, or clients really stand out to you. 00:43:46.217 --> 00:43:46.717 Projects. 00:43:46.717 --> 00:43:49.873 Well, you guys are one of them. 00:43:49.873 --> 00:43:57.125 You guys, like, you guys hit me up for the stickers and you know the design and cool thing like that. 00:43:57.125 --> 00:44:13.679 Appreciate you, dude, you, dude, yeah, yeah, but uh, I don't know, like there's uh, there's just been so many I've done stuff with like true quartz, which is like a company that's like you know, uh produces bangers, quartz, bangers for dabbing and uh, canadian dabs. 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.731 Awesome guy to work for uh and matt, he's been awesome. 00:44:17.731 --> 00:44:18.858 A lot of those guys. 00:44:18.858 --> 00:44:21.510 The legal side, sauce, rosin labs if you ever heard of that. 00:44:21.510 --> 00:44:22.911 Yeah, really, into that point break cart they had and yeah, yeah, so those those pictures that you, a lot of those guys, legal Side Sauce Rosin Labs, if you ever heard of them oh, those guys are dope. 00:44:22.911 --> 00:44:25.103 Yeah, I was really into that point break cart they had. 00:44:25.103 --> 00:44:27.853 Yeah, yeah, so those pictures. 00:44:27.873 --> 00:44:29.177 they still do photos with me. 00:44:29.177 -->

00:44:31.400 Oh nice, those are yours. 00:44:31.661 --> 00:44:32.443 Yeah, all the photos. 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:40.552 Most, I think all of their photos basically their product photos are probably mine Well, not mine but theirs, but you know what I mean. 00:44:40.552 --> 00:44:43.038 Well, not mine but theirs, but you know what I mean. 00:44:43.038 --> 00:44:45.081 I took them and they love that and I love working for them. 00:44:45.081 --> 00:44:52.827 They're really cool and it's like good to see that there's these kind of people that are still doing the same support on, like as a legacy side guys. 00:44:52.827 --> 00:44:54.628 They're still like okay, we're going to support. 00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:59.840 So that's a reasonable example, too, of a good looking brand, in my opinion. 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:01.695 Yeah, especially for what they're doing. 00:45:03.289 --> 00:45:05.856 Yeah, looking like a brand, in my opinion, for especially for what they're doing. 00:45:05.856 --> 00:45:06.981 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have like a good job too. 00:45:06.981 --> 00:45:08.485 Yeah, hugo and jordan, they're crazy. 00:45:08.485 --> 00:45:09.688 Yeah, they're killing it. 00:45:09.708 --> 00:45:12.336 They're killing it, but they're really good products and it's a really good brand. 00:45:12.336 --> 00:45:18.246 That, I think, is like pretty too true to the legacy uh side of things, and oh yeah, that's a really cool. 00:45:18.567 --> 00:45:19.951 Um approachable effect. 00:45:19.951 --> 00:45:21.213 Yeah, that's cool. 00:45:21.213 --> 00:45:23.179 Yeah, I think it's super important. 00:45:23.179 --> 00:45:29.210 Think it's super important I don't know, I probably shouldn't say this, but I guess they did in a way but it kind of reminds me of like, uh, just the fonts. 00:45:29.210 --> 00:45:37.257 It looks kind of uh, comic booky, comic sans, but I like getting that way reminds me yeah, like, yeah, 90 ish yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool they're. 00:45:37.278 --> 00:45:37.960 They're cool vibes. 00:45:38.201 --> 00:45:45.416 So what are some of your favorite cannabis brands that you like and like their branding and stuff and you kind of fuck with and you get inspiration from? 00:45:46.210 --> 00:45:46.711 Branding. 00:45:46.813 --> 00:45:52.974 Sorry, go ahead, go in like, like, like cannabis, friends that you like and you like their shit, you like their colors, you like their brand. 00:45:52.974 --> 00:45:56.202 I like inspiration and I think they're doing cool stuff right now like I don't know. 00:45:56.202 --> 00:45:59.338 Legal side on the either or yeah, on the legal side. 00:45:59.358 --> 00:46:02.204 I don't know like Greybeards kind of cool, like their vibe. 00:46:02.204 --> 00:46:02.851 Yeah, on the legal side. 00:46:02.871 --> 00:46:03.974 I don't know like graybeard's kind of cool. 00:46:03.994 --> 00:46:04.574 I like their vibe. 00:46:04.574 --> 00:46:07.981 I don't I don't have that vibe in my design but I like like what they're doing. 00:46:07.981

--> 00:46:17.653 I like they like to see their like kind of how they do a lot of their stuff and, um, uh, what else, like sauce, does a lot of difference. 00:46:17.653 --> 00:46:21.250 I don't do their designs as stuff, I just do their printing and you know photos. 00:46:21.389 --> 00:46:27.278 But they have a lot of different cool cool designs that they you know, for their stickers and things like that. 00:46:27.338 --> 00:46:28.731 So that's kind of cool, um. 00:46:28.731 --> 00:46:47.860 But yeah, just I'm, I've been so in tune with like more of like the corporate, like brands, like you know, coca-cola and all these corporate side of things, so like I really it's, it's been fun to transition into the fun like cart, like more, not cartoony like or kind of like this kind of like stuff. 00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:55.989 so it's just more definitely more fun, right yeah, it's just more fun, and yeah yeah, I think we might see it eventually. 00:46:55.989 --> 00:46:59.137 I mean, definitely, todd did it a little bit. 00:46:59.137 --> 00:47:01.543 Yeah, with this at least it's love the hoodies. 00:47:01.543 --> 00:47:02.514 An extension of the brand. 00:47:04.856 --> 00:47:05.940 The drippy face. 00:47:05.940 --> 00:47:08.775 I really appreciate this new logo and he did like a few. 00:47:08.775 --> 00:47:11.155 There's one with like a tongue and it has like a. 00:47:11.155 --> 00:47:13.641 It's basically a tab of acid on there. 00:47:13.641 --> 00:47:15.914 Oh okay, I don't know how he gets away with it, but it's cool. 00:47:15.914 --> 00:47:16.255 I like that. 00:47:16.255 --> 00:47:18.059 That's all the one pattern it tweet. 00:47:18.059 --> 00:47:18.621 I like it. 00:47:18.621 --> 00:47:20.041 I think branding is so important. 00:47:20.041 --> 00:47:21.621 Like some stuff doesn't resonate. 00:47:21.641 --> 00:47:36.594 You know what I mean you definitely have to have, uh, a consistent flow and like, and as soon as you see, you know, even if something changes, like todd does, he changes it up, but you can always kind of tell that it's like rosinhead stuff. 00:47:36.594 --> 00:47:41.313 Yeah, it's like at the beginning he's always had this vibe and then it's always kind of like it's changed. 00:47:41.313 --> 00:47:44.161 But it's been the same, almost like you know what I mean. 00:47:44.161 --> 00:47:46.197 So, and that's part of part of being. 00:47:46.237 --> 00:47:59.074 You know at the beginning you do it right and then you can build on top of uh, like on top of that and top of that and make it like consistent where you're, where you're having customers recognize instantly, right, I love yellow. 00:47:59.094 --> 00:48:00.856 Some people don't like yellow, but I always liked it. 00:48:00.856 --> 00:48:03.760 I thought he rocked the black and yellow really well, like you, todd. 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:05.641 Yeah, man Always did it well. 00:48:05.641 --> 00:48:08.365 I don't think he cares about football with Steelers. 00:48:08.365 --> 00:48:13.940 No,

he doesn't give a shit when you make something dope like this, the stickers. 00:48:13.940 --> 00:48:17.208 Do you just fire it off and then you're a dope-ass machine with the UV. 00:48:17.208 --> 00:48:22.184 Oh yeah, it makes them and it's like, and then you're like oh, buddy. 00:48:22.525 --> 00:48:26.621 Yeah, I know there's a lot of things that go into just create, just printing. 00:48:26.621 --> 00:48:28.106 That, yeah, there's totally. 00:48:28.106 --> 00:48:33.501 It's like you you start with the design, then you, yeah, then you have to transpose, like so your printer understands what. 00:48:33.501 --> 00:48:35.293 What is what it's doing, right? 00:48:35.934 --> 00:48:38.802 um, like the layering how many layers do you want on there? 00:48:38.802 --> 00:48:42.356 How you know, there's a lot of setup involved, but then you, you got those simpler ones. 00:48:42.356 --> 00:48:44.641 But those simpler ones do they want a matte finish? 00:48:44.641 --> 00:48:45.922 Do they want a gloss finish? 00:48:45.922 --> 00:48:51.380 They, you know there's all kinds of things, and then maintenance on all these machines is insane. 00:48:51.380 --> 00:49:16.722 So, um, there's a lot of things, and then you know a lot of designers and a lot of artists don't know how to kind of work with the printers and the guys that will actually produce this product, and so there's a lot of extra work that needs to go into it sometimes so um, but yeah, it's crazy, there's lots of steps to it, lots of steps. 00:49:16.762 --> 00:49:18.835 I wish I could go, yeah, one by one. 00:49:18.835 --> 00:49:19.838 I'm not a good teacher. 00:49:19.838 --> 00:49:21.724 That's the number one thing like I found. 00:49:21.724 --> 00:49:34.123 I found I'm not good at teaching like or explaining how things work very well, I just do them and then I know how to do them and learn, and I can't really, I can't really like transpose it back. 00:49:34.123 --> 00:49:35.710 But yeah, but there it's not. 00:49:35.710 --> 00:49:38.577 Just, yeah, click a button and print a thing, no, there's. 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.898 There's a lot to it yeah, yeah, how many machines are involved in like something like? 00:49:43.110 --> 00:49:48.188 that one you look at like what we can be as little as one, or like there's a couple. 00:49:48.188 --> 00:49:59.492 Like you, you get lamination, so you have to take out the vinyl and, you know, put it in a laminating machine that will put another layer on top of that to protect the sticker and then put it back into another machine that will cut it right. 00:49:59.492 --> 00:50:05.224 Okay, um yeah, this one's just basically one machine. 00:50:05.224 --> 00:50:06.713 Does it all kind of all in one? 00:50:06.733 --> 00:50:11.755 oh, really okay right, so those raised ones, really the raised ones, yeah, yeah, raised stuff is. 00:50:11.956 --> 00:50:19.838 Uh is a new thing that I got going on so I think we'll fire up something dope yeah, let's work together, let's figure

it out, alan. 00:50:19.878 --> 00:50:26.659 I look forward to doing some more shit with you, man, it's really cool getting to know you, man and understand more about what you do. 00:50:27.132 --> 00:50:27.793 Yeah, kind of just. 00:50:27.793 --> 00:50:34.175 Yeah, kind of make the brands have different look, Bring them out. 00:50:34.717 --> 00:50:45.179 Yeah, I think anytime you're an artist and you're helping work with brands to create shit and bring it to reality and we have a team of people here that do it too. 00:50:45.601 --> 00:50:48.257 Heck yeah, this setup is dope. 00:50:48.257 --> 00:50:49.655 You guys got it locked. 00:50:50.672 --> 00:50:56.262 So, yeah, you need that and to help bring it to reality, you need help. 00:50:57.512 --> 00:50:58.315 You need more than just. 00:50:58.992 --> 00:51:01.034 I'm a little dabbed out, but it's the third segment. 00:51:01.110 --> 00:51:02.315 And you got to work with the right people. 00:51:02.315 --> 00:51:06.815 There's people that will hit me up and I just look at what they've wanted and I just can't. 00:51:06.815 --> 00:51:09.791 I just go sorry, like I, I just can't work with you Like it's not. 00:51:09.791 --> 00:51:10.851 I don't think it's going to. 00:51:11.112 --> 00:51:12.454 I'm the right person you know what I mean. 00:51:12.514 --> 00:51:26.335 Or something like that, so um yeah, you find like I guess ultimately makes a Brand that lasts or a brand. 00:51:26.335 --> 00:51:31.114 Keeping things simple, I think, is an important aspect of it. 00:51:31.114 --> 00:51:38.364 It's it's you want to really convey a message, but you want to make sure that you're not confusing people. 00:51:38.364 --> 00:51:39.271 Yeah. 00:51:39.291 --> 00:51:40.476 I mean, this is a good point. 00:51:40.576 --> 00:51:44.391 Yeah, so just using people. 00:51:44.411 --> 00:51:44.831 Yeah, it makes sense. 00:51:44.831 --> 00:51:45.293 That's a good point. 00:51:45.313 --> 00:51:56.894 Yeah, so just uh keeping things kind of simple, consistent, like consistent for sure, colors you want to keep your, you don't want to have a, have your, your logo, have orange in it for a couple years and then all of a sudden you change it to yellow with and a different font. 00:51:56.894 --> 00:51:59.481 Nobody knows and you didn't have like a plan, right. 00:51:59.521 --> 00:52:09.764 So um yeah you know, interestingly, I, I know I'm rebranding is smart sense, like most companies do it, and we have, like it's gotta be strategic. 00:52:09.764 --> 00:52:12.231 Yeah, strategic, exactly like we have evolved. 00:52:12.231 --> 00:52:16.722 I don't know, I wouldn't think about or how would you do it anyways, I don't know. 00:52:16.722 --> 00:52:18.574 I'm definitely. 00:52:18.574 --> 00:52:19.976 Yeah, I've done a few re. 00:52:20.077 --> 00:52:21.820 I've done a few rebrand projects. 00:52:21.820 --> 00:52:24.516 I mean, a lot of them are especially like on the legal side. 00:52:24.516 --> 00:52:29.456 They're all like NDAs and it's all contracts and it's like you can't even talk about it. 00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:41.777 It sucks but yeah, that's good though it's keeping busy, which is good where can people find you like on Instagram what your website is? 00:52:41.829 --> 00:52:43.494 websiteshybridvisionscom and on Instagram. 00:52:43.494 --> 00:52:47.597 What's your website Websiteshybridvisionscom Instagram's adhybridvisions? 00:52:47.597 --> 00:52:48.913 Is that where you get a? 00:52:48.952 --> 00:52:49.856 lot of people come through. 00:52:50.157 --> 00:52:57.856 Yeah, it's a lot of people seeing the work that I post and then they go yeah, let's do this, Can? 00:52:57.856 --> 00:52:58.197 You do this. 00:52:59.592 --> 00:53:00.657 And you do some shots for them. 00:53:01.251 --> 00:53:03.378 Obviously there's stuff that comes from the website. 00:53:03.378 --> 00:53:05.615 I do have like an online little shop that you know. 00:53:05.615 --> 00:53:07.199 I have some my own merch. 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:11.217 You guys, I got for you guys too, dope that I've done up. 00:53:11.217 --> 00:53:12.320 Thanks, dude. 00:53:12.601 --> 00:53:13.222 And thank you so much. 00:53:13.222 --> 00:53:20.260 I forgot to say thanks to Munger Mel. 00:53:20.260 --> 00:53:20.940 I didn't want to smoke it. 00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:21.581 I know I want to. 00:53:21.581 --> 00:53:23.746 We're going to have to buy some and support the cause. 00:53:24.050 --> 00:53:24.693 It's a sleeper. 00:53:24.693 --> 00:53:33.643 For sure, buy some Every $10 goes to the Hope Society and help somebody who's struggling with mental health, and that's important it is. 00:53:34.190 --> 00:53:35.572 Don't forget to follow us at Higher Orbit. 00:53:35.572 --> 00:53:36.532 Where can they find you, buddy? 00:53:36.532 --> 00:53:37.393 Where's Hybrid Visions? 00:53:37.713 --> 00:53:39.916 At Hybrid Visions, At Hybrid Visions on Instagram. 00:53:39.916 --> 00:53:40.755 Go give Alan a follow. 00:53:40.797 --> 00:53:43.458 Man he's dope and we're really happy to have him. 00:53:43.458 --> 00:53:46.081 Thank you for having me and Appreciate it. 00:53:46.081 --> 00:53:47.123 We'll see you soon. 00:53:47.123 --> 00:53:49.184 Catch you soon, powered by Rosin Heads. 00:53:49.184 --> 00:53:50.425 Go eat some fucking Rosin Heads. 00:53:50.445 --> 00:53:51.327 That was some good chocolate. 00:53:51.327 --> 00:53:53.193 Thank you, give me more. 00:53:53.193 --> 00:53:54.599 I'm going to have another dab too. 00:53:54.599 --> 00:54:17.715 Good night Diagnostic complete. 00:54:17.715 --> 00:54:18.898 All systems functioning normally.