บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ How the Environment Affects Global Health - HER Talks Volume 4 - HERhealthEQ

introduce yourself and then we'll pass it off to Fran. Sure, I just wanted to say a welcome 48 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:13,120 from her Health EQ sponsors of this event. I'm Marissa Fayer, the founder and CEO of her Health 49 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,960 EQ and we are a global, non-profit social enterprise focused on women's health in developing 50 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:25,520 countries. And so we provide medical equipment into developing countries to focus on women's 51 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,920 non-communicable diseases such as maternal health, diabetes, heart disease and cancers affecting women. 52 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:38,480 We have projects so far in nine countries. We've impacted the lives of over 41,000 women 53 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:46,800 and we're just getting started. So we're really just happy to host and have this event and I'm 54 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:53,360 going to leave it to the expert speakers to take us from here. Thanks Marissa. Fran, 55 00:04:53,360 --> 00:05:02,000 I'm looking forward to hearing your introduction because do we lose Fran? I'm here. Oh there you 56 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,720 are. He just switched my panels. I'm just making sure we can hear and see you. And you're wearing 57 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,880 my favorite pattern today, circles. I love circles. So Fran, tell us a little bit about yourself, 58 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:19,520 maybe where you're located, what makes you smile and some of your great work that you're doing 59 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,080 these days. Sure, absolutely. So first I have to say it's an honor to be here. Really excited for 60 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:31,680 the conversation. I am Fran Ayalasomayajula. I'm the head of digital health strategy at HP Worldwide. 61 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,480 My background is over 25 years in industry as an epidemiologist and public health professional, 62 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,480 work with many institutions including the World Health Organization and across multiple sectors. 63 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,880 What makes me smile is that there's hope in the work that we're doing that while there are a lot 64 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,800 of challenges and we're going to talk to a lot of those challenges on this discussion, there's just 65 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,720 so much that can be done today, particularly with the use of technology and I'm really 66 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:04,880 jazzed about that. I love it. Thank you so much for sharing. All right and let's move on to our 67 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,240 next panelist here, Jessa. And we also have a special guest with Jessa today. I love when people 68 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,280 bring their children to sessions because I think it's lovely and soothing and you see the eyes 69 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:23,840 popping up there. So please introduce yourself, Jessa, as well as Lillian. Sure. Hi, I'm Jessa 70 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:31,680 Robuck and this is my little Lillian, my co-host today. And you know it's a pandemic world so kids 71 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,320 on Zoom is, I think, it's much better than in-person meetings where you don't get the kids 72 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,360 and the cats and the dogs. So, you know, just here for a little bit of a smile relief. 73 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:49,440 I am CEO of VidaLuz Developments. We are a sustainable startup focused on placing communities 74 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,280 that prioritize access to nutritionally dense foods and sustainable lifestyle choices of the basic 75 00:06:55,280 --> 00:07:00,400 human rights. We believe that it shouldn't be harder to make a choice that's positive for the 76 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,640 planet, person, or community and we're building communities to reflect that. 77 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:12,320 So I'm located in Ridgeway, Colorado, outside of about seven hours outside of Denver and 45 minutes 78 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:18,160 outside of Telluride. So I'm staring at some snow coming down right now. I'm not particularly 79 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:26,480 thrilled about it but yeah, I'm just what makes me smile is the ability to live a mission-focused 80 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:35,040 life and have a professional career that I'm able to really try to get that message out to the world 81 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:41,120 that sustainability initiatives are important to overall global health as well. And that's why I'm 82 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 here today and I'm excited to participate. 83 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Thanks so much, Jessa and Lillian. Let's move on next to Sheila. 84 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Hi, my name is Sheila Patel. I'm a vice president at CAP Gemini Invent and my focus is really on how 85 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:04,800 to use digital tools to help further sustainability within healthcare, life sciences, and technology 86 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:11,280 sectors. You know, I think what excites me is that there's just something different in the air 87 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,440 these days. I think that year or so has created a pause for us all to kind of think back and 88 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,560 really focus on what's really important to us. And it feels like there's a lot of momentum building 89 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:29,120 around really doing something exciting collective around sustainability, healthcare, and obviously 90 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,720 moving all those initiatives forward. So happy to be a part of this crazy and amazing panel. 91 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Thanks, Sheila. So let's start off with you, Lillian and Jessa. 92 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:48,080 And I have a question for you. So when we talked, you know, last week we had a pre-meeting, 93 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,760 you had a perspective that was really holistic and inclusive around women, global health, 94 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,480 sustainability, and you talked a lot about the interconnectivity. Can you go

more into that, 95 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,280 please? 96 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:07,600 Sure. It's a difficult conversation to have sometimes because people really 97 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,360 excel and do well with specialization, even hyper specialization, and can make a lot of 98 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:19,040 impact in very specific areas. But, you know, it's part of what we're doing in our model with 99 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Vita Loose, but also, you know, it's part of my personal mission to just encourage people to think 100 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:30,240 bigger about how all of these things are so interrelated as far as, you know, we can't just 101 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,760 say, oh, sustainability or, oh, we're not going to do anything about it. And so I think that's 102 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,720 a good way to say, oh, sustainability or, oh, global health, because they're really one and the 103 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,480 same in so many different ways and they overlap. You know, I'll give you an example. We talk about 104 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:55,280 how one of the tenets of our model is access to nutritionally dense food. And, you know, when we 105 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,280 talk about environment and sustainability, how we're farming affects health. It affects the food 106 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:09,920 out to the end product, that consumer consumption. But it also, you know, it affects the environment, 107 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:16,320 methane and greenhouse gases. But at the same time, it affects the individual as well. We 108 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,200 have to be connected to our food source, reconnected to understanding what whole and real food mean in 109 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:29,120 the context of overall health. The United States is seeing some astronomical increases in chronic 110 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:36,880 illness and what that really means from a societal standpoint, as well as to a family unit. So there's 111 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:42,240 just so many interrelated issues. And when we look at these things from a larger perspective, 112 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,560 from a holistic view, it's, you know, how do we really build a collective consciousness that is 113 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:54,000 aware and cares about all of these issues simultaneously and how they relate to each other, 114 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,880 how they feed into each other. And that solving all of these problems is important, whether you're 115 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,800 siloed in one or whether you're trying to tackle a bunch. But it's really just about that they have, 116 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:12,080 they're all related. One isn't really necessarily independent of the other. So while that's a little 117 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:18,880 bit of an ethereal conversation to have in some ways, it's just important to bring awareness to 118 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,000 a holistic approach. And that word holistic is kind of overused sometimes, but it's really just 119 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:31,840 thinking about the problem as this systemic means of attacking climate change. And that's related to 120 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,640 overall global health. It's related to food access and food scarcity and food swamps. And 121 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:42,400 all of these things play back into the overall healthcare system as well. So just kind of talking 122 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:48,160 about an overall awareness of all of it together, I think is an important thing to bring to our 123 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:54,880 collective consciousness. So true. I'm truly passionate about the food area. I think everything 124 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,680 stems back to food. And it really does. Mental health, they've seen in different communities, 125 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:04,160 if people have whole foods and they're outside in nature and they're helping out with that, 126 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:10,640 I help out with a local sustainable no-till farm here, a couple miles from my house. And we teach 127 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,280 those with different abilities to sustain themselves and to grow healthy food. So it really does, 128 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,320 everything goes, not just your physical health, but mental health has a lot to do with the foods 129 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,360 that we're consuming as well. Absolutely. And I like that community aspect too and getting 130 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,000 people involved. It's amazing. Around here in New York, sometimes they go into the classrooms and 131 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,640 they ask, do you know where your food comes from? Have you ever picked a carrot? And it's amazing 132 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:44,000 all the hands that go up, just the lack of connection from the children and the food that 133 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,840 they're eating and even understanding where it comes from and how it's grown and whatnot. 134 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,240 It's really fascinating. So thanks for the work that you're doing, Jessa. I appreciate it. 135 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Okay. Well, let's move on to our next exciting question here that I have for 136 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,800 who's next up is Sheila. Sheila, what are your thoughts in what we are seeing in this 137 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,400 intersectionality of health, equity, women leaders and sustainability? 138 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Yeah. So really interesting question. I feel like as I mentioned, the time is really now. 139 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,160 There's a lot of great tools out there helping to raise the awareness that we just discussed, 140 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:28,560 Jessa and you, around the collective consciousness of where is it coming from, all of those things. 141 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,800 But in addition, we're starting to see just tools out there just making sure that we're aware of 142 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:41,440 how

everything is interconnected as it relates to equity, et cetera. And a couple of examples 143 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:48,880 there from industrial perspective is clinical trials. So the typical clinical trials has 144 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:55,440 struggled in the past to make sure there was an inclusive picture of different patients and 145 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:02,240 profiles, et cetera. So with using digital tools, you're able to now pull in different 146 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:08,160 economic classes and different profiles of folks that should be a part of it to make sure that it's 147 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:15,600 more of an inclusive representation of the population that you're trying to focus on in 148 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:22,880 terms of studying. In addition, if you fast forward and thinking about healthcare, obviously 149 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:30,560 the rise of telemedicine and digital health, digital medicine, sorry, in the form of 150 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:36,720 sensors or devices to help monitor and ensure your progress through your journey of your chronic 151 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,720 disease or non-chronic disease, you're seeing the rise of these types of technologies to really help 152 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:51,600 ensure that that patient journey is one that is monitored and getting the latest information 153 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:58,400 associated with it back to the healthcare providers that we're starting to see are quite diverse. 154 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:04,320 So we're seeing a rise of women leaders, leaders in general, who've come in with that inclusive 155 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,360 mindset of making sure that there's a collective way of looking at all these different inputs 156 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,360 to come to an outcome. So we're seeing all those things kind of take shape and form in different ways. 157 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:25,840 I'm looking forward to even that wearables. It can have that constant monitoring. I just think it 158 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:31,520 would be so helpful. I know I have a mother that's ailing and she's many, many hours away, 159 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:38,080 and it would just be so great to just know what's going on from a medical perspective. 160 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,800 I recently, her nurse, she was having trouble because she was with her medicines and 161 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,920 they try to keep her independently living, but have people come, nurses come visit her. 162 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:54,160 And the nurse got this great new box that it rings every time I go to the hospital, 163 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,120 that it rings every time she has to take her medicine, only opens. And then every week the 164 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,400 nurse comes and puts them in the right little boxes. And I've just noticed a drastic difference. 165 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,720 I didn't realize that technology could really help at that level. And it's just been so lovely. 166 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,680 Yeah. So I can't wait to more of the IOT, Internet of Things, more of the connection, 167 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,760 and because it really does help with collaboration and care for families, especially if they're 168 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:27,680 taking care of people that are older, that are from afar. So thank you so much for all the work 169 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,680 that you're doing as well. My goodness. All right. Onto our next person here. I've got a question for 170 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:40,800 all of you. So nobody gets out alive here. Fran, last but not least here on my list, 171 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:46,880 your passion, understanding of women, health, politics, and policy, and tech are contagious. 172 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,320 When you were talking the other day, I was taking feverish notes, Fran, and then I went and I 173 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,560 researched everything that you talked about. I said, this is amazing. I haven't even heard of 174 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,320 these things before. Can you share around some of the solutions or ideas and stuff that you're 175 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,560 working towards? And maybe we all could join on the bandwagon and work towards it as well. 176 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,680 Well, yeah. So there's a lot of initiatives. And I guess I kind of first would go with, 177 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,400 just even listening to you share the story of dealing with an aging parent, right? Many of us 178 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:25,360 are in a sandwich generation and the notion that utilizing technology for being able to manage 179 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:30,400 medication adherence is really important. But when it comes back to looking at this in the context 180 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,760 of our environment, there's tremendous opportunity. One of the things I'd like for us to really 181 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:42,240 consider is, for example, the way that pollutants affect our air quality and our water quality. 182 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:48,640 And the detriment that that has on women. And maybe to set the context on why that matters a 183 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:55,280 little bit, why women, is because when you think about labor, the labor force, we really constitute 184 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,120 two thirds of the work that's out there. If you've taken consideration, not just formal, 185 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:08,800 right? Formal paid work, but also informal unpaid work. It's done by women. And so the health of 186 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,960 women is so paramount, economically speaking, for thriving communities, which is why, you know, 187 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,400 when we look at the indexes, they really lead to the health of women being the number one indicator 188 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,040 of the health of a nation. And yet, when you think about the things that are resulting 189 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:34,320 in the

detriment of women's health, for example, air quality, having effects on women that can lead 190 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:42,080 to hypertension, that can lead to prematurity in terms of early births, complications with 191 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:47,440 conditions such as endometriosis, that also themselves lead to not only infertility, 192 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:53,520 but also pain and chronic pain. These are real, and hysterectomies, a disproportionate number of 193 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:59,600 hysterectomies as a result, these are issues that we can begin to manage when we start managing our 194 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,280 environment and leveraging technology, leveraging the sensors, as you were describing, to be aware 195 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,840 of our ambient and, you know, our ambiance, our environment, so that we can start to not only keep 196 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,960 track, but to also be able to use those data points to help drive towards better regulations 197 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:22,800 and better policies. So this is why I often get, you know, I often am showing up in a lot of diverse 198 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:28,480 scenes being on panels like this, but at the same time driving towards and writing letters of support 199 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,320 for legislation that really moves the needle on ensuring that the things that we're doing, 200 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:40,320 the decisions that corporations are making, are also done in a manner that are really positive 201 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:46,160 in terms of ensuring the overall health and well-being for communities, and in particular 202 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:53,920 for the interest of women that often get overlooked. So true, everything's interconnected. 203 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,320 As Jess, we started out, Jess started us out with that intersectionality and it's really true. 204 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:07,840 I would love to see that measured more and, you know, real metrics around it with the technology 205 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:15,040 to show the health of a nation is only as healthy as its women, and that because it just goes back, 206 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:22,480 and I like how you said too, a lot of the jobs that are being done are by women, and it was 207 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,120 interesting, I heard something the other day, somebody saying, they call it the core. There was 208 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:34,320 a gentleman that was doing a presentation and he said, you know, if I wouldn't be able to do what I 209 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:40,960 do if my wife at home wasn't, is the core, like the core of making sure our kids have good nutrition 210 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:46,080 and making sure the schooling and making sure all these things, you know, he said it's more than 211 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,040 what's in my day as an executive, and so it's so interesting because some organizations are trying 212 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,520 to figure out

and some governments trying to figure out, well, how do we, you know, recognize 213 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:03,280 and reward this core working class that is really sustaining our communities, like you said, and I 214 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,600 think getting back to the data and the indices would be such a great start. Yeah. Absolutely. 215 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,440 Oh my gosh, beautiful, and I know you have questions for each other. So we talked about this 216 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,720 last week and I'll start it out, but if you, over the weekend you thought of a different question 217 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:26,080 to ask or a different area to go into, but I know Jess, you wanted to ask Sheila a question 218 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,960 around the data and the tech, but if you came up with a different one, please feel free to say that 219 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:39,680 one as well. No, I think what you were just saying is a great segue into that topic, and my question 220 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:46,160 of Sheila knowing your background really is just how are we using data and, you know, responsibly 221 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:53,600 using data to, you know, either create metrics or just move the needle as far as that intersection 222 00:21:53,600 --> 00:22:02,640 of sustainability or environment and global health? Yeah, so I think we're seeing a lot of 223 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,440 different perspectives here and a lot of different approaches because it's brand new to everyone, 224 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:16,000 but you're seeing systematically companies really take a step back with their new sort of presence 225 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:22,960 of leaders which tend to be more in an occlusive, right, trying to think about, okay, what are the 226 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:29,760 measures that we want to hold ourselves accountable for, not only for ourselves but for our stakeholders 227 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,760 and the greater world community, right? So you're seeing a lot of focus from companies just top down 228 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,480 looking at, you know, what are the metrics that we want to focus on and now starting to publicize 229 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:48,240 around those in their sustainability reports. So I think it's something like 20 percent of folks had 230 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:55,520 a sustainability report five years ago and now you're starting to see it going up like 60, 70 percent 231 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:01,520 are supposed to in the next, you know, three to four years have some sort of a sustainability report 232 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:08,480 which is not just focused on profits and people but also the planet, right, and what are those 233 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,840 measures that they're looking for. Now certainly we talked a little bit about the data elements 234 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:21,200 within healthcare and so how folks are, you know, monitoring patients, adherence, etc. You're 235 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,760 starting to see hospitals and companies, right, really focus on metrics, even get paid based on 236 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,880 outcomes, and so you're starting to see a little bit of that take form. I think it's going to take 237 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,320 a long way, right, we've been in this model for a while so it's not going to change overnight 238 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:45,840 but certainly a look to trying to build metrics in, trying to hold people accountable to outcomes 239 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,840 as opposed to just, you know, the process. I think you're starting to see things evolve there as well. 240 00:23:55,120 --> 00:24:01,760 Very cool stuff, right. It just seems like this is, like you said Sheila, now is the time because we 241 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,720 have the convergence of technology, we have the convergence with the mindset being there, 242 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,320 and we have that convergence of the executive leader being measured on it as well. I think that 243 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,200 it's now our time because it's the perfect storm for us and a storm that, you know, we've been in 244 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,160 a drought for a while and this is something the soil's going to suck up and, you know, really enjoy 245 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:28,800 and that's something I think that's really, really great to see. I've been seeing in the internet of 246 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,600 things, you know, where cities are putting in this technology and I can't wait till we get to the 247 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,520 point where, you know, the poor folks in sustainability, they're sitting there in front of 248 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Excel spreadsheets gathering data and I know that, you know, with the edge and with the cloud and 249 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,280 with everything that's going on and these internet of things that soon they don't have to sit there 250 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,400 and do that. The data will come through, right. The data will be there and it will be exchanged in a 251 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:58,240 nice lightweight way and it will go, it'll be great when the data comes from the source and goes right 252 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:06,400 into the report. I dream of that day. Thanks so much, Sheila, I appreciate that and 253 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,360 and, and, and, for bringing that up. Fran, I know you had a question for Jessa 254 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:16,000 around the way we work but again if you thought of another great one over the weekend, please feel 255 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,080 free to ask that one instead. Well, you know, I, well, an element is around the way we work but 256 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,720 honestly, Jessica, when you started sharing about, you know, the priority around the 257 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,560 need to look at nutrient rich foods, the first thing that came to mind for me in terms of challenge 258 00:25:32,560 -->

00:25:39,840 area is dioxins, right, these toxins that are in foods and that's where we're getting most of it, 259 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:45,920 right, being so much exposure beyond air pollution, it's in the water, it's in the food itself and, 260 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,040 and yet when we have these indexes and we're just talking now about creating these indexes and having 261 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:57,600 these reports, it gets so complex, right, in terms of identifying and making for priority, like how 262 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:05,280 do we go about making sure that these things which we know are so important don't get overshadowed by 263 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,480 other areas where we tend to want to put our emphasis, right, we'll put our emphasis in on 264 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,560 things like, I don't know, solar paneling or, you know, the natural renewable energy and then these 265 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,760 other really important topics get lost. Can you share with us a little bit about how your 266 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:28,480 organization maintains these issues at the forefront of what's going, you know, what's 267 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,280 going on within our considerations around environmental health and the health communities? 268 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:41,200 Yeah, you know, not to beat the point to death but, you know, it really gets back to that holistic 269 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:47,200 perspective that you can't singularly look at one area and forgo the rest and think you're solving 270 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,640 the problem because the problem is massive, right, so for us, you know, you're speaking about 271 00:26:52,640 --> 00:27:00,240 nutritionally dense food and we can even, even just that, take that example and farming techniques, 272 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:08,000 if we're farming for nutritional density and you're still using toxic pesticides, then there's a, 273 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,160 there's still a problem there, right, so you can't have a singular vision that this is my, 274 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:20,720 my only focus. It's about really universal health, you know, in a context of thinking about all areas, 275 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:27,520 whether it's, you know, energy healing or different healing modalities or eastern medicine meets 276 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:34,560 western medicine and or herbalism or, you know, there's just so many facets and then the question 277 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,080 becomes how do you not become overwhelmed by trying to think of everything and not, you know, 278 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:47,600 be able to really focus on any, anything, so really what VitaLuz is doing, I would, I would say, 279 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,920 you know, our approach, just speaking singularly from, from my particular company, is that we're 280 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:02,880 trying to create metrics that incentivize policy change because you have to have a, you know, 281 00:28:02,880

--> 00:28:08,480 policy change because you have to have really policy behind a lot of these initiatives and 282 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:15,280 support in order for them to not get lost in what the new, you know, greenwashed hot topic is, 283 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,080 like you said, you know, solar is so popular because it's commercialized and it's accessible 284 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,840 from a profitability standpoint, but that doesn't mean that regenerative farming isn't important, 285 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:32,160 right, so it's really about creating a comprehensive system of metrics and to tie into what we were 286 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,760 talking about with Sheila too and it's using quantitative data to back that up, so how are we 287 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:46,400 building smart communities that really responsibly harvest and analyze data and then, you know, that 288 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:53,120 bridge between all of it, really the core of all of it is education because we can harvest data as 289 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:59,440 much as we want, we can quantify anything and everything, we can have the most thorough complex 290 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,400 of metrics and entirely seamless communities that are out there that pull to the forefront every 291 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:15,440 sustainable choice and every access to food that heals people genuinely. Food is medicine. We can 292 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:22,320 do all of that, but if we don't educate people as to why what we're doing is important, then none of 293 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,240 it really matters, so, you know, to me education and policy change are really these bridges in 294 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,840 between all of this because people, you know, there's there isn't enough public awareness 295 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:42,160 and education campaigns behind this comprehensive approach to universal health and that nutritionally 296 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:48,160 dense food matters, but pollution matters, like all of these things are interrelated in so many 297 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,920 different ways, so to me education is the gap, policy change is the gap, and then really there's 298 00:29:53,920 --> 00:30:00,960 this behind the scenes beast of what are we doing with our data in a responsible way to make a 299 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,880 conscious impact in incentivizing positive behaviors in the world today. 300 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:15,920 Education definitely is a big point. Yeah, yeah, the education at all levels. I think we focus a 301 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,680 lot on kids, you know, and teaching them, but I try to take some time and I think it's important 302 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,480 just to the other day I was taking a walk and there was a woman picking up weeds, you know, 303 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,360 out of her talk to pesticides and she doesn't spray the pesticides, she said well, you know, 304 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,600 and most of

the people don't spray pesticides in their lawn because they have animals, but they 305 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,720 don't know the correlation between if you have certain genes that can be triggered into really 306 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,000 bad stuff from pesticides and weed killers and things like that as we've seen some of the 307 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,400 different research that's come out, so I said well thanks for having, you know, a lawn that you don't 308 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,400 spray pesticides and I said, you know, if you have certain genes, you know, it triggers certain, 309 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,040 she said I was just seeing that in the news last night and she said the person across the street, 310 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,520 they have a dog and they have pesticides, so sometimes it's just, you know, it was like there 311 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,280 was a politician, I think it was Harvey Milk, you know, out in San Francisco and he wanted to push 312 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,720 through some really important legislation, but he rallied her around dog poop and picking up dog poop 313 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,440 because that was something that was getting to people, right, so sometimes you have to, you know, 314 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,680 communicate with people on issues that are important to them and then have it relate back to 315 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,680 regenerative farming, for example, which if you don't know about regenerative farming, please do 316 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,440 look it up, there's a lot of great movies about it that are fun to watch and also educational 317 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,120 with your family so you can have that discussion. It's important to not have the mono cropping, 318 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:49,040 you know, that we have around the world to make sure, like at the farm I work at, we rotate 319 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,440 over 100 different crops and different kinds of things and so we're not always growing the same 320 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,720 thing every single year, it's something different in that area, we watch it and, you know, people 321 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,080 come to pick up their CSA and they're like, well what do I do with this pigweed, you know, it's 322 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,920 like a healthy green, you know, and so we started including recipes of what to do with the stuff 323 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,200 in our newsletters and people said, I would have never tried this before, this is delicious, or 324 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,680 some of the quote-unquote weeds that people are weed killing, like purslane is a wonderful green 325 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,720 and it's so funny because we started putting it in our CSA and people started coming back and saying, 326 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,880 do you have more of that, I put in a smoothie and I feel great, it gives me such energy, so 327 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,320 it's just, it's interesting, you know, that whole thing around, and we got chickens this year because 328 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,960 we then the bottom of the coop is open and we keep picking the coop up and putting in different 329 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,680 places, so we're constantly doing that rotation, so trying to do that regenerative farming there, but 330 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,280 it is, you know, all about the education and go to your local farms, support your local farms 331 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,960 that are organic, sustainable, you know, no till, no pesticides, so we have some more questions I 332 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,840 think here too, did I make sure everybody had an opportunity to ask their question? 333 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,400 Sheila, you had a question to Fran, concerning the indicators, that's right, let's get to that one 334 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,920 before we get to our questions. Yeah, so Fran, it was really interesting to hear you talk about the 335 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:20,560 health of women being a leading indicator for, you know, kind of advancements of different countries, 336 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:27,520 as we're kind of, I guess, redefining some of the definitions, do you see or see a difference in how 337 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:35,040 we define wealth, especially in future contexts? I do, and I think in some ways we sort of already 338 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,800 can appreciate that when we look at things like education and literacy, right, and certainly the 339 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:47,200 work that I'm doing around maternal mortality, there's actually a comparison I give when I 340 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:53,440 examine sort of, you know, here we are, the United States is an example of having the highest GDP 341 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,320 per capita, right, in the trillions, so we're number one, and I often say, you know, we're 342 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,400 number one in that, we're number one in technology, we're number one in being an influencing 343 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:09,680 country, but when you look at the index for maternal mortality and morbidity, we are also number one, 344 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,240 and that's something I want to be number one for, we were number one in terms of COVID, I mean, 345 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:19,760 it's pathetic, right, and so these are areas where we have to say, you have to begin to question, 346 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,880 wow, if the health care, the quality of health care, and a place like the United States, who 347 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:31,520 supposedly has a fantastic GDP, is what it is, and we have to start to question, wow, if the health 348 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,040 is what it is, and does that qualify it as being the place where you want to live, and would you 349 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,760 consider that to be a wealthy place, I mean, when you look at places where people consider where 350 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:49,440

they want to go to raise their families, they look at things related to crime rates, error quality, 351 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:55,520 right, they're going to look at the education systems, so I think these are the indicators, 352 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:01,120 it's not just the money, and the question I always press upon those is we're trying to, 353 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:08,320 you know, look at maternal health as an example, is where are we putting our science, where are we 354 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:16,320 putting our research, right, where are we putting our financial investments, and how are we doing 355 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,720 those in ways that really give us the quality of return on the quality of life for communities 356 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:28,000 and for individuals, and I think those are the indicators, I think also too, transportation 357 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:34,400 becomes a big one, if you think about where the air pollution mostly comes from in urban areas, 358 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,480 and those being the areas where people have the highest, you know, chronic diseases, respiratory 359 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,800 chronic diseases, it's in urban communities, and why is that, because everybody is coming in, 360 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:54,080 traveling in, and they're leaving their, you know, toxic air waste, you know, behind, right, and that's 361 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,920 a problem, so looking at places that have good transportation systems, and that are using 362 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,560 renewable energy, these are the things that are going to become the qualifiers, because ultimately 363 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,240 these are the things that are going to trickle down to, where we're going to witness, and where 364 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,320 we're already seeing in places, you know, areas of Europe in particular, and Netherlands is a great 365 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,920 example, where they're doing these practices, and it's resulting in them having much better quality 366 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,280 of life for everyone, and certainly much better quality of life, quite frankly, for women, 367 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:30,960 so I hope that sort of answers the question. It does, thank you. Yeah. Any follow-up questions 368 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:38,880 for each other? Here's your opportunity. All right, then we will open it up to our audience, 369 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:46,400 so if any audience members would like to ask a question, or if you'd like to type your question 370 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:54,080 in the chat, please feel free, for any of the wonderful people on the call today. I can very 371 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,520 easily chime in. I would just like to, of course, I'm like, riveted, I've taken like three pages of 372 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:05,520 notes, but, you know, we talk about how the environment really affects women, and, you know, 373 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:11,120 and how technology, and how corporations really do affect women in developing countries, and so I 374 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:18,320 wonder, is, you know, Fran, you were just saying there is a direct correlation between environment 375 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:24,480 and women, and we're looking at that in the States, and I wonder how corporations, and how 376 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,800 companies, and it doesn't have to be large corporations, how does everyday companies, you 377 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,880 know, how do we impact positively, how do we change the environmental factors that can, 378 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:40,160 that can impact the lives of women, and I know, Jessa, you're doing this a lot with your company, 379 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,760 you know, and I'm just wondering from everybody, from anybody, what can, you know, small to medium 380 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,280 sized businesses do, as well as the corporations, to really make a change in women's lives 381 00:37:51,280 --> 00:38:00,640 throughout the world? Well, I can speak to that for, on a, I guess, maybe a micro level. 382 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,760 We're seeing the largest departure of women from the workforce because of COVID, historically, 383 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:13,600 at one time, that we've seen, you know, as a result of any particular event. So, you know, 384 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:20,160 one of the things in the workplace, in the context of the workplace, is understanding that women are 385 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:28,560 inherently, you know, we inherently think of community and others before ourselves, and 386 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:36,400 others before ourselves in the context of business versus a singular focus on profits or the bottom 387 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,640 line dollar. It doesn't mean that we're not capable of it, it just means that, you know, part of 388 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:46,480 celebrating feminine energy is celebrating our capacity for multitasking, like, you know, bringing 389 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:55,200 babies on Zoom calls, right? So, I'm just, what I'm saying is that we have this exceptional capacity 390 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:02,640 for more than just the traditional 24-hour patriarchal work cycle. So, understanding that 391 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:12,000 we need to cater to the capacity of women for family and professional life and more non-traditional 392 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:20,240 work schedules, flex scheduling, and just having this, you know, the pandemic has brought this 393 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:26,800 psychological vulnerability, in a sense, in relation to traditional work structure. It's not about 394 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,720 going to an office, having a commute, being there all day, this is my focus when I'm there, let's 395 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:38,720 compartmentalize, it's a 24-hour cycle. It's not how women work, right? Like, I don't operate that 396 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:44,480 way. I'm doing a thousand

things at once, you know, multitasking in all these different ways. 397 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,880 So, that's our strength, that's our superpower. So, being able to incorporate that in a professional 398 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,160 capacity, whether it be company culture, whether it be just recognizing, again, like, I can't 399 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,720 stress enough non-traditional work environments and non-traditional day structures and flex 400 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,440 scheduling, these are things that you can incorporate from a corporate level, especially in 401 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,880 the United States, because we're just so rigid with these things sometimes, well, we were. But 402 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,120 there's an opportunity here because of how quick everyone has had to change as a result of the 403 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:23,040 pandemic, that we're more receptive and more pliable at this point, psychologically, because 404 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,200 of these, all of these massive amount of changes that we have absorbed psychologically from a 405 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,480 societal standpoint. So, there's really an opportunity for a higher level of incorporation 406 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,560 of change and to celebrate feminine energy and feminine strength, which are just inherently 407 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,240 different in a lot of different ways. So, I mean, that's, I guess, the kind of the tip of that 408 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:50,000 iceberg that I would like to even just address from a professional capacity of what we can do 409 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,520 for women in the traditional corporate sense right now. 410 00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:01,360 You don't mind if I just like tag on to that a little bit, showing up in the data, right? So, 411 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,120 our data is showing us that now that people have as an opportunity to work remotely, 412 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:13,280 it's changed a lot of expectations from an employee perspective as well. So, those 413 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,680 corporations, whether they're large or small, are going to feel that in terms of retention, 414 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:28,720 their ability to maintain their workforce is going to be really sort of impacted by 415 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:34,240 the decisions that they make around the way that they will allow for their employee base to continue 416 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:41,200 to work. The benefit for smaller organizations naturally is not only the opportunity to release 417 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:48,640 the burden on the employee, but also the financial burdens on the employer, them themselves, 418 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,880 trying to maintain their financial viability. And so, really, what I'm anticipating seeing more of 419 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:01,040 and what our data is showing is more of a hybrid environment in which there will be a lot more 420 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,960 flexibility, not only as Jessica was describing in terms of the hours, but also where that work 421 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:13,280 takes place, which could be in many environments. The other thing that's awesome about that is the 422 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:20,320 opportunity to bring forth this crowdsourcing, if you will, that didn't exist before either, 423 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:28,160 because now you're able to expand and leverage resources and experiences and experts within 424 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,880 certain fields that you previously may not have been able to leverage before. So it's really great 425 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,720 for what I think is going to be an awesome future. I'm looking forward to it. 426 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,800 Yeah, more global inclusive workforce. And I think writing it into your job descriptions 427 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,120 is really important. They say that men apply for a job if they have about 60 to 65 percent of what's 428 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,800 on the job description and women only apply if they have a high percentage of what's on the job 429 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:03,600 description and women only apply if they have 100 percent or at least 95. So I think, and they're 430 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:09,760 worried about, I've seen a lot of people put that in flexible, and this is what we mean by flexible 431 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:16,240 structure, ability to work remote, we help you get set up with your technology. I think that's such 432 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:20,080 an important thing to make sure you start at the very beginning with the job description. There's 433 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,960 been a lot of analysis around job description writing and they're saying that a lot of times 434 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,960 you're exclusive with the way that you're writing or excluding things in your job description. So 435 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,840 starting from there and having diverse hiring panels and making sure if you're only saying 436 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,920 people can only work from a 50-mile radius and just think of the exclusivity. It's crazy. 437 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,080 You're just, you're not including all the wonderful talents that you possibly could be including. 438 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,720 So that the other thing is on the environment side, right? Women being more represented 439 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:56,800 in environmental science and environmental ingenuity and innovation. I think that's a big 440 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,280 one and we'll continue to see more. I think we have a way of receiving and understanding 441 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:08,880 needs based on the diverse environments in which we have so many responsibilities that that, 442 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,480 you know, is something that is unique that will be contributing too. So I'm looking to see, yeah, 443 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,840 more representation of women in environmental

science and technology is huge. 444 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:24,800 Yes, please. That'll be great. I think we'll get to our 2030 goals sooner or at least achieve them 445 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,520 because a lot of people are saying, oh, I don't know if we're going to achieve these by 2030. 446 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:34,240 They're already moving out their targets. So it's, we need more minds and more inclusivity 447 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:39,440 to bring that knowledge. Absolutely. Closing remarks here. So let's start with you, Sheila. 448 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:47,600 Now, I mean, as I mentioned, I think the time is now. There's a lot of different factors coming in. 449 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:54,000 I think everyone kind of spoke about a lot of them, just so you just added policy. You just mentioned 450 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:01,680 as well, Faith, the looming political landscape as well in terms of, you know, setting our goals 451 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:08,320 high. So it feels like from top to bottom, we've got all the key elements to really kind of work 452 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,720 together as women leaders, leaders in general, to kind of move the world and the earth forward. 453 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:19,360 So look forward to the opportunity to be a part of that solution with the rest of you guys. 454 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,680 Thanks, Sheila, for that collaborative response there. I love it. And closing remarks for you, 455 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:33,600 Fran. I just piggybacking on Sheila, I use now as an operative for no other options, right? 456 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:39,600 We have no other way. While we're developing, you know, and talking about our sites are on Mars, 457 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:48,960 I want to make sure that the earth is still inhabitable. So I think we should be out there 458 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,280 right now. We've got bigger issues down here. Yeah. But the satellites are important. You know, 459 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,680 like the gray satellites going around tracking the water and whatnot. And yeah, but going to Mars. 460 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,960 Yeah. I don't know. We get some big stuff to handle here. Closing remarks for you, Jessa. 461 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:10,480 Yeah, I just, you know, I think Sheila and Fran kind of summed it up in a lot of different ways 462 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:17,120 that are it's about now. And really, you know, again, I keep saying holistic, I'm sorry, I'm 463 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,600 overusing it, but it's really just thinking about the problem from an inherently feminine 464 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,240 perspective, which is big picture thinking and encouraging people to think big. And Kelsey, 465 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:30,240 I'm sorry, we didn't get to your question over there. And just to circle back as a final point. 466 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:36,640 Just to circle back as a final point. Anybody would like to respond to Kelsey's question there, 467

00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,960 thoughts on the future of women's informal employment in developing economies, particularly 468 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,400 those focused on agriculture, with the pressure of climate change, and now the global pandemic. 469 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,520 Have you learned of any new or interesting means of intervention? Thanks, Kelsey, for that question. 470 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:59,440 Sure. Yeah, I, you know, that kind of final sweeping and then to answer your question, 471 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:06,880 comment here is, it's, to me, it boils back to education. So that new intervention to me in these 472 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,960 these areas, and, you know, there's a lot of different ways in that question, I feel like I 473 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:18,880 could rabbit hole, but it's about education as far as keeping people aligned with returning to 474 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,080 self sufficient techniques, as far as regenerative farming, you know, I've mentioned before, but 475 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:29,040 there's a lot of different ways, from a policy standpoint that you can encourage circular, 476 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:35,200 return to circular economy. When we're talking about developing economies, especially for example, 477 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,680 you know, in island nations, there's so many of these nations that have gotten away from being 478 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:45,280 producers. So it's actually trade training and re educating people, how to return to being 479 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,960 self sufficient so many different ways, reconnecting people to supply chain. So you know, I would just 480 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,440 kind of sum it up with this this general notion of continuing education, and understanding that the 481 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,760 more we educate, the more we're able to help people be self sufficient. And that also helps 482 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,360 contribute to sustainability initiatives as well. 483 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,640 Thank you so much. Fran responded in the chat here, education is huge in agriculture and also 484 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:16,080 in the home environment, such as cooking and ovens and stoves. Absolutely. Yeah, that's a that's a 485 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,360 big issue. People in I know, the United States don't think about that and other countries and 486 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:28,320 the type of things that are being used to cook with to start the fires and whatnot. And that's 487 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:35,680 leading to health issues. Yeah, it's a it's a big deal. Marissa, you want to bring us home? 488 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,920 With any last comments? 489 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:44,000 No, I just wanted to say thank you to everybody. This is incredible. You know, the environment 490 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,760 does play a really big role in the health of women around the world. And especially, you know, the 491 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:56,400 last discussion, you know, stove, you know, the 492 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:03,920 you know, stoves, you know, you burn wood or coal that's carcinogenic that leads to lung cancer, 493 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,680 and so many other types of health issues. And so, you know, everyday economy and every day 494 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:17,760 in developing economies really does affect the lives of women disproportionately to other to, 495 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,360 you know, to other people. And so that's obviously why we focus on women. But this was super 496 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:30,880 insightful. So no, Faith, you bring it home. Thank you so much to this esteemed panel. These 497 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,000 insights I know I'll be thinking about and trying to digest for a long period of time. So we 498 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,920 appreciate the work that you're doing out there in the world. Keep it up, keep sharing, and please 499 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,040 do visit her health EQ. We had pasted that in the chat earlier. I'm going to paste it again, just 500 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:53,040 so you have it so you kind of can digest what's on there as well at a later date. And thank you so 501 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,880 much for your valuable time today. So together, let's create a better world for women and for our 502 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:25,680 planet.