บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Ep 208: Interview w/Bill Randolph from “F13 Pt 2”

transferred to Sunny Purchase, which is in Purchase, New York, 30 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:46.800 and finished college there and then moved into the city from there and you know 31 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.919 the rest is history, as they say. So how did you discover or 32 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.599 were you always interested in acting even as you were moving all around the world. 33 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:00.680 Did you high school plays like Oklahoma? Well, yeah, not Oklahoma 34 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:07.280 specifically, but yes, a lot of musical plays. Because it so happened 35 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:12.400 that the high school director at you know, my high school, Lincoln High 36 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:17.879 School in Stockton, California, was they didn't just do a senior play every 37 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:23.639 year. They did play after play after play after play. And the first 38 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:30.039 play that I saw them do was the Fantastics, and I just it was 39 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.039 like, wow, this is cool, you know, because it was you 40 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.520 know, my peers, you know, it was you know, so I 41 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.400 thought, well, you know they can do it. Hell I can. 42 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:51.080 And in my history class, missus Frolic I think her name was, one 43 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:55.520 day said you know, hey, this afternoon they're having auditions for George m 44 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:02.080 who knows go audition. It might change your life. Wow, your history 45 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:09.080 teacher said that, yes, my my high school, like like you know, 46 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:15.319 world history or god knows what teaching, you know, she said that 47 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:20.800 in class, and sure enough it did. It changed my life and growing 48 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:24.720 up were horror films on your radar? Was there one that had an impact 49 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:30.079 on you whatsoever? Really? So like nothing growing up there wasn't a horror 50 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.279 movie or did you just like steer clear of them. No, it was 51 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.160 just that, you know, because we lived in Europe from fifth grade to 52 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:43.079 tenth grade, you know, we weren't Number one, we didn't see American 53 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:49.600 television and number two, I think I did see West Side Story in a 54 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:54.920 movie house in Paris, France. But other than that, you know, 55 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:01.839 we weren't really getting a lot of the American influence. Yeah, wow, 56 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.399 yeah, no, that makes sense, I guess. Yeah. Of course 57 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.240 there were Jaws and the Exorcist in Psycho. Was it all just like all 58 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:13.399 over? It was well that you know certainly, you know, I don't 59 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:17.439 know Jaws was later. Yeah, a lot of that stuff hadn't happened yet, 60 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:23.519 you know. It was more like Anthony Perkins in USO, in Psycho 61 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:27.399 and that kind of stuff. Those were around, And I do remember, 62 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.240 you know, there were black and white films that I did see on the 63 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:40.879 American basis, but the films I think at the most changed once a week, 64 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.079 So it wasn't like there was a barrage of stuff that we could go 65 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:50.120 see Vincent Price. Yes, we would go see Vincent Price and in you 66 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.800 know, like I don't know what, but but you know, and but 67 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:59.920 he was like kind of the most horror person that that that we were expo. 68 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.879 Yeah. Oh, I was gonna say, because you know, we 69 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.920 were talking about theater and before your first movie we read that you did theater 70 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.319 and we're even in a play on Broadway. So what was that experience like 71 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:16.959 And how does being on stage compare to being on film for you? Well, 72 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.720 you know, certainly, yeah, stage is completely different in that, 73 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:29.600 you know, you actually have to be heard in the you know, in 74 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:34.480 the in the back row. But I was very lucky in the sense because 75 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:41.480 I was doing this play called Broadway, I mean called Gemini on Broadway that 76 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:47.560 Frank Cumin and Meg Simon, who were who cast Friday the Thirteenth, Part 77 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:53.000 two, you know, they had seen me on stage, so I already 78 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:58.720 had that introduction. And I forget, I can't remember. I actually met 79 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:03.160 Nancy Allen and Brianda Palma in a film that I did, which was filmed 80 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:12.240 at Sarah Lawrence College, which is Brianda Palmer's alma mater. There was a 81 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:17.680 protege of Brianda Palma Mama, and they were doing a film called The First 82 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.639 Time, which they were doing up there, and so I met the two 83 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:29.240 of them and got cast in this, you know, small film just outside 84 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:33.600 of New York City. And Louis Dejamo, who was the casting director for 85 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:39.399 Dressed to Kill, he just called me up. He just said, listen, 86 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.360 we're doing this, you know this thing, Dressed to Kill. Do 87 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.360 you want to do You want to do it? You know, it's like, 88 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.800 what are you crazy? Of course I want to do it. Are 89 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.439 you out of your mind? Yes? Yes, yes? When? Where? 90 00:07:51.439 -->

00:07:55.319 And how? That was? Well that was our next question actually, 91 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.240 because you know, even though obviously you're most remembered in Horror for your role 92 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.680 on Friday the thirty, Part two, your feature film debut was in that 93 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.279 Brian De Palma film, Dressed to Kill. Do you play the Cabby who 94 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.560 drives Nancy Allen during this big chase scene? So we were gonna ask how 95 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.040 you got involved, but it sounds like you just knew the right people. 96 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:18.000 Well, yeah, I was very lucky that Brian De Palma was and Nancy. 97 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.680 Both Brian and Nancy were up at you know, when they were casting 98 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:28.720 this other film, and so I kind of got to know them through that 99 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:35.159 what was to work with? You know, I was very lucky, you 100 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.480 know, because he was married to Nancy Allen at the time, and she's 101 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:46.399 you know, I worked with her exclusively on the film, and you know, 102 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.559 it's kind of easy when you're working with the wife. You know that 103 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:56.879 that that you know, Brian treated me very well. So, you know, 104 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:03.720 in terms of an introduction to kind of a gigantic film, that was 105 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.279 could not have been better. And of course, you know, my whole 106 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.360 thing is at the end of the scene with Nancy Allen, I say, 107 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.080 well, you know, give she says, give me a call. So 108 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.200 you know I'm saying it Brian, So okay, she says, give me 109 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.159 a call. You know, where's my next scene? Well, you know 110 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.440 what's so funny, Bill is that we wrote this down because we always watch 111 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.840 the people's movies and you know, think of funny questions. And my question 112 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.840 was, yet you take her on this ride. You say you're gonna take 113 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.879 her out to dinner. She says, call me, but she leaves before 114 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.639 you guys exchange numbers. So how are you supposed to get in touch with 115 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.840 her? Oh? Oh, details, Yeah, but that's true. It's 116 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.320 like, where's your next scene? Another funny thing about your scene. It's 117 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.679 great because you know she's being followed by well she thinks is the killer. 118 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.720 But it's like this woman is dressed up and you you know, open the 119 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.919 car door right in front of her and knocks her down. How was that 120 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.120 filmed? I'm assuming you didn't really knock anyone down with the car door? 121 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.840 Was that a stunt person? Uh? No? In fact, the way 122 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.399 essentially, And you know, I don't think that Brian was happy with my 123 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.039 reading, you know, because the way that I said excuse me, you 124 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.679 know, which was kind of because you know, I saw it as being, 125 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.360 you know, a comic moment, so you know, I come out 126 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.480 with this excuse you know, it's like it's like it's like Steve, Steve 127 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:37.240 Martin, excuse me, you know, you know, And I couldn't get 128 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:43.200 that out of my head. And he gave me take after take after take 129 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.879 after take, and in retrospect, I know he was just waiting begging me 130 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:56.399 to say it somehow differently than Steve Martin. That was that was prime time, 131 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:01.240 Steve Martin time like that was it was like and it also is kind 132 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:07.039 of a comic moment because you like knock her over, like the door knocks 133 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:11.279 her down. Yes, but back to your question in terms of that, 134 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.600 No, I just would would open the door, and I think it had 135 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.600 like a sandbag so that it the door wouldn't you know, swing all the 136 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:26.519 way. But no, there was nobody there that I was physically knocking over. 137 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.759 That was actually a separate shot. And actually, you know, that's 138 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.840 an interesting question because when you think of it, if you know, I 139 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:41.720 have to look at that film again to see when you know it turns out 140 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:48.000 to be Michael Caine and drag. But uh, you know when I knock 141 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.440 this person over, am I in the background, you know? Or physically? 142 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.679 You know? How was that shot? Was? I? I well, 143 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.000 because we just watch it and what I remember. You you know, 144 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.919 they have a good shot of you looking at like the rear view mirror, 145 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.679 you open the door, and then it kind of looks like the shot is 146 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:13.519 above her because she's just like face down on the ground. Yeah. Yeah, 147 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.960 so I don't remember if you are. I think maybe you don't get 148 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:22.080 my reaction shot of actually maybe they do. I can't remember, but I 149 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.519 just thought it was a pretty funny moment like I love Dressed to Kill, 150 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.679 but I love Thirteenth Part too much more. Yeah, but it's

just so 151 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.679 funny because it's just such a great movie to have your debut in, you 152 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.200 know, it's just such a cult classic Dressed to Kill. Is there a 153 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.320 red carpet premiere for Dress to Kill that you got to attend or a cast 154 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:48.399 and Cruse Greening you would think so, but they be honest, I do 155 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.799 not remember, you know, any kind of a premiere thing, and it's 156 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:56.240 very possible that it premiered in Los Angeles. And so moving on to Fred 157 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.559 Thirteenth Part two? What was the audition process like for Jeff and did you 158 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:05.080 audition for any other roles or was it strictly for Jeff. It was strictly 159 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:13.519 for Jeff, and I probably had to do a preliminary audition with Meghan fran 160 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:22.240 But then I fairly quickly was at an audition with Steve Minor. Steve Miner 161 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.399 was there who directed Try the Thirteenth Part two, and I was paired up 162 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:35.600 with a Sondra who was not Marta Kober, who eventually got Sondra. And 163 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:43.960 I think the reason why I got the role was this this beautiful young actress 164 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:50.960 was off the wall. She was just bouncing from wall to wal to wall 165 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:54.600 to I mean, she had so much energy, and she was just so 166 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:01.799 pert and cute, and I don't remember anything else other than she had this 167 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.720 just kind of huge energy that was all over the place. This is the 168 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.600 girl you were first paired up with. This is the girl I was first 169 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.399 paired up with. Who did not get the part. Oh Meg Ryan, 170 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:24.279 Yeah right Ryan. You know, let me tell you, you know, 171 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.960 being naked in a bed for hours with Meg r. Not that Marta was 172 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:37.080 no you know, chopped liver, but certainly this girl was absolutely you know. 173 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.279 So I turned to Steve and I said, are you kidding? While 174 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:46.759 she was in the room. She was in the room bouncing off the wall. 175 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.480 What did Steve say? Steve laughed, The two of us laughed, 176 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.360 and then we went on with it, you know, because he was basically 177 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.080 trying to get an improv out of us, which you know, I don't 178 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:03.360 know how successful. The improv, ever was apparently not for her, I 179 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.720 guess, because she didn't get the role. But you know the fact that 180 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:16.519 Steve and I connected on the on this very eccentric, excited young lady that 181 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.279 that's why that's when I got the role. I got the role right then 182 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.080 when Steve and I connected, that's a good bonding moment. Well, because 183 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.960 I guess you understood that it was like it sounds like she was playing like 184 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.600 a caricature of the part. You know, who knows? I you know, 185 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:35.159 I cannot. I can't even claim to think that I know what was 186 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.320 going on in her head. Sometimes actors make these crazy toys. It's like 187 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.960 sometimes less is more. But I think sometimes people at auditions think I need 188 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:48.000 to show them like everything, show ten times, even though it's just you 189 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:52.279 know, counselor yeah or you know. And it's also just possible that she 190 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.559 was very nervous. Yeah, that's true. So you know, Lauren Marie 191 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.480 Taylor, who we just recently had on the show, told us that all 192 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.399 the stars watched the original Friday the Thirteenth movie together after being cast. Were 193 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.320 you a part of this watch party? And what did you think of the 194 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.919 first film? Well, you know, certainly, the thing is is that 195 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:18.720 you know Kevin Bacon and essentially I play as clone in part two. You 196 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:23.000 know, all of these you know, young actors and actresses in New York 197 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:27.799 City. We actually used to go bowling, and I was doing Gemini at 198 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:36.960 the time, and Kevin Bacon was dating somebody in Gemini. So I knew 199 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:44.240 Kevin through not only because he actually in fact, and I can't remember his 200 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.960 name, but the young guy that played the lead and dressed to kill what 201 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.440 was his name to you me, Keith Gordon. Yeah, Keith Gordon. 202 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:57.240 Keith Gordon and Kevin Bacon were doing an off off Broadway play Downtown, which 203 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:03.279 you know, you know, all us young actors, we always went and 204 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.680 saw anything that anybody was in. But there was a great bowling alley on 205 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:15.119 Amsterdam Avenue between seventy seventh and seventy eighth Street or somewhere in that neighborhood, 206 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:22.119 and it was like a slice out of the Midwest. Ten Lanes could not 207 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.440 have been more Midwest if you tried, and we would go there and go 208 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.039 bowling. So I knew Kevin, and I knew a lot of people, 209 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:38.960 you know, Kira Sedgwick, Jennifer

Gray, you know, trying to think 210 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.160 of all these people that would go bowling. So yeah, I did know 211 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:47.839 Kevin before I got the role. Wait, and then Vin, when you 212 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:49.559 got the role, did Kevin have anything to say about being in a Friday 213 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:59.079 the thirteenth film or not really really like no comment. He had no comment. 214 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.359 Well, the thing is this funny because when I told him I was 215 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:06.799 playing his clone in part two, you know, his reaction was very nonplussed. 216 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.400 Also, it was kind of like, you know, Okay, I 217 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:15.000 hope everybody forgets that. It's so interesting that later people embraced it, but 218 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.519 at the time they're like, oh, guess what, Kevin, No one 219 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.880 forgot it. Yeah. And not only that, but I saw a commercial 220 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:32.440 that he did recently where he's playing three different people advertising a streaming channel where 221 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:37.720 he's playing he's he's doing you know, he's doing his Footloose character. He's 222 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:45.079 doing his you know what's the military one. Yeah, you can't, you 223 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:52.119 can't handle the truth. So he's in uniform and he's and he's you know, 224 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.519 in his you know, got the earphones for Footloose and you know, 225 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.400 kind of bouncing around, and he's also sitting at the table. He did 226 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.880 not have an arrow through his neck, but he did have an arrow sticking 227 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:11.240 out through his chest, and so he acknowledges the fact. And probably because 228 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:17.279 all three movies were available on this streaming network, so he acknowledges that yes 229 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:19.880 it did exist, and yes I was part of it and blah blah blah. 230 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.880 But for the most part, yeah, he's pretty much, you know, 231 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.640 kind of until now. I you know, I think that he embraces 232 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:33.880 it more now that he realizes, Okay, it's not gonna go away. 233 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:38.319 His daughter is now entering the horror world with the smile. You know what's 234 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:44.880 funny is that if he would go to a convention, the lines would be 235 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.880 out the door, and I feel like he maybe at one time will I 236 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.720 mean, Jamie Lee Curtis did a horror convention, only one, but she 237 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.720 did one John Carpenter's come, so like, you know, it's just so 238 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:57.559 funny it's possible. Yeah, so maybe he will. I just think it's 239 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.279 funny. You guys were friends and then you at the part and you're playing 240 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.000 basically like kind of a clone of him. I didn't know if he gave 241 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:07.079 you any advice, but I wanted to ask you about so you get the 242 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.160 role of Jeff. Was there anything specific you wanted to bring to that role 243 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:12.200 or where? Did you just see it more as the type of thing where 244 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.519 you could kind of have fun, be yourself in that role. Well, 245 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.400 you know, when I showed up on set, I had, you know, 246 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:25.119 black high top shoes. I had all this stuff that I brought to 247 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:30.079 and and the hat that I wore in the film actually is the same hat 248 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.079 that I wore and Dressed to Kill. Yes, yes, so I brought 249 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:38.519 the hat. I brought some shoes. I brought these you know, ridiculous 250 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:44.279 two socks that had you know, these red stripes and all this stuff. 251 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:48.480 I brought all this stuff that I thought. And I also brought you know, 252 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:55.240 kind of cigar, not cigar cigarette, tiparillo. I brought you know, 253 00:20:55.359 --> 00:21:02.920 some some uh you know odd, you know thing to smoke. And 254 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:08.640 he had immediately nixed everything, but the hack h cut everything. Keep that 255 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:14.759 hat. I love that now. Now you know, who knows what? 256 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:18.359 If the Cabby from Dressed to Kill just happened to get a job at a 257 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:22.400 summer camp, yeah, anything else, you know, I would have loved 258 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:29.200 it if Nancy Ellen had showed up at some point, right, And we 259 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.480 heard that during filming, the cast and crew stayed in cabins. Who did 260 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:37.440 you stay within the cabins? Yeah? You had to room with cast members, 261 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:38.960 right or other cast members? Yeah, I think we all had our 262 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.640 own cabins convenient. Oh that's yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 263 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.799 because there were a lot of like counselor cabins and stuff like that. So 264 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:52.480 I don't think that we actually had to room with everybody. But literally the 265 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.440 cabins were you know, ten feet apart, and they were nice. There 266 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.279 were nice cabins. And that was the Boy Scout camp that was around the 267 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:08.319 lake from the set camp, which was different. Oh okay, the set 268 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:15.200 camp was actually a much smaller operation. Uh so, you know, and 269 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:21.319 of course you see

it all over the screen, but you know, the 270 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.519 Boy Scout Camp was probably twice as big, and it also had you know, 271 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:30.880 a tennis courts and that kind of stuff, and so it was kind 272 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.440 of like, you know, the Boy Scout Camp where we stayed was an 273 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:41.480 upgrade to what the set camp was. You know. I actually didn't know 274 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.920 that until now. Every time we've heard, you know, that everyone stayed 275 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.240 in the cabins, I thought it was the cabins you shot in. I 276 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:49.880 didn't know it was a separate So you go, okay, so you guys 277 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.039 stayed in a separate camp that was near the camp that was shot in. 278 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:56.680 Did you know the one. I mean, I just assumed that it was 279 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.640 the filming one. Yeah, I thought it was the film. Okay, 280 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:03.559 thank you. Actually it was like, I don't know, like maybe a 281 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.640 mile. I mean, you could walk it if you wanted to. But 282 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.440 for the most part, you know, they would pick pick us up and 283 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:18.079 take us to the set. But it literally was like if yeah, it 284 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.400 was like a mile around the around the lake. That's so fun. And 285 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.000 Laura, so Lauren Retailor has mentioned she's told the story that, you know, 286 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:29.720 one night she was in her cabin alone and I guess a bunch of 287 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:33.119 her male co stars tried to scare her and she ended up fainting. So 288 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:34.759 I got to ask, were you one of the culprits? And so what 289 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:41.920 did you all do that made her faint? Stu Cherno and I were you 290 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:48.880 know the assholes you know at the at the camp and in fact, and 291 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:56.279 we did this not only to Lauren Marie but also Kirsten. We actually and 292 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:02.119 all we did because everybody had screens on their on their windows. As we 293 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:10.319 went to the back window screen and scratched the screens. So no, I 294 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.119 think that's hilarious actually, but like, wait, do you remember her fainting. 295 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:15.599 Did you think like, oh shit, I think this we went too 296 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.640 far? You killed her? Now do you remember her fainting? Or did 297 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:26.480 you guys just scratch and leave? We scratched and left scratched. The old 298 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.079 scrub was that if she did faint, that meant that she wasn't screaming, 299 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.480 So it was like, okay, she probably didn't even hear it. Let's 300 00:24:33.480 -->

00:24:37.200 get out of here. So after the night shots, did you guys like 301 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:42.759 go out and party and do stuff like that or yeah. Well, because 302 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:48.880 the thing was is that essentially the big meal of the day was breakfast. 303 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.359 So everybody would show up, you know at the cafeteria, you know, 304 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.839 which was a big kind of mess hall at the boy Scout camp and have 305 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:07.400 breakfast. And one of the things that we would do is that people started 306 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.759 to bring well, okay, you know, this is a southern mash that 307 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:19.839 you can't get anywhere except for my hometown. So everybody was bringing whatever they 308 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:27.119 could in terms of libations, so that you know, breakfast was not you 309 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.799 know, his breakfast, but it was like dinner, and everybody was you 310 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:34.880 know, anybody who wanted to could get you know, as stupid as they 311 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:40.000 wanted to. So basically we didn't go out a party, but you drank 312 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.519 with breakfast absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was our party spot. 313 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.359 You know. It was like, you know, because the camp itself 314 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:53.160 was not close to town, to any town, you know, Blairstown, 315 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.119 certain, No, not Blairstown. It wasn't Blairstown at all, but it 316 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:02.079 was you know, New York, Connecticut. There was There really was no 317 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:07.880 close close town. But probably the closest thing was where we filmed, you 318 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.200 know, running up the street and going around to you know, running around 319 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:17.519 to Ted's place. But you know, I didn't have a car. I 320 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:22.640 didn't own a car because they took truck truck, yes, exactly, you 321 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.920 know, my truck was long gone. Besides oh and there's a great story 322 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.559 about the truck too, in the sense that you know, when we come 323 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:34.000 around the corner and we drive up there, they they had the set and 324 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:38.400 all the crew and everybody was around the corner as you look down the mountain. 325 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:45.680 We were to the right and we make a left turn onto the main 326 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:51.359 road. But around on the other side the truck that they originally wanted to 327 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:56.079 use, they brought on a flatbed and it was I mean, it was 328 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.960 twice the size of the truck that we used, but it was on a 329 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.240 flatbed and they couldn't get it started. They could not get it off the 330 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:11.440 flatbed. And the truck that we used was somebody who was a local just 331 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.000 driving by and was saying, oh, look at that big truck. You 332 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.640 know, I think my truck is big. That truck's really big, and 333 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.880 they, you know, ran after I don't know whether they ran after him, 334 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.200 but they, you know, you know, quickly threw a body in 335 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.759 front of the truck so he would stop and unnegotiated with him right there, 336 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:33.640 you know, can we use your truck? Well, you guys been a 337 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.039 lost a day of filming, Yeah, that's all. Yeah, And I'm 338 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:42.160 sure they offered him some money, so like or a meal. He probably 339 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.160 made more money than any of us, Like, hey, can we use 340 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.160 your truck? We know what's making scale. Well, you know what's funny 341 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.279 is they we were gonna your first scene. In your first scene, the 342 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.000 iconic crazy Ralph character comes up to you and Marta Kober, who plays your 343 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.880 girlfriend Sondra, and gives you the class like you're all doomed line. You 344 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.279 know. Unfortunately, Walt Gorney, who played Crazy Ralph, passed away in 345 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.160 two thousand and four, But do you have any memories of working with him 346 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:17.480 or filming that scene. He was the ultimate professional. It's just you know, 347 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:22.039 the rest of us, you know, we're you know, you know, 348 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.279 we were all kind of loose and happy and whatever. But he just 349 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:30.440 was. He would show up in character with his lines, ready to go 350 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.119 show me, you know, show me my marks. He'd hit the marks 351 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:41.240 and it would be done and over. So even though now that I see 352 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:47.200 in like photographs that people have taken and whatever, then he was, you 353 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:52.599 know, kind of around the set more than I remember, because I only 354 00:28:52.680 --> 00:29:00.200 remember dealing with him during our shots. And even though they're is physical evidence 355 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:07.400 that that's not true. But he was. He was just he was an 356 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:15.599 inspiration. He really was cool, you know, he just he just was 357 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:21.759 Ralph. He was there. It was really really fun, such a memorable 358 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.680 character, you know, and it's just it was so great, so genius 359 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.160 that they brought him into the sequel, Like, you know, nobody listened 360 00:29:27.160 -->

00:29:30.279 the last time. I'm going to tell some other kids who won't listen. 361 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:36.799 Absolutely, and I think that probably during the you know, the first film 362 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.960 that he got such you know, great numbers, and that people liked him 363 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.559 and remembered him so much that it was it was no brainer to bring him 364 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.240 back. Yeah, I mean he's always around, yeah, you know. 365 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:53.720 And then of course there's your incredibly memorable death scene when you and poor Sondra 366 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.680 are made into a human shish kebab by Jason right after having sex. So 367 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.279 before we talk of because we're gonna ask you about some of the legitimates in 368 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.400 the effect. Instead of saying shish kabob, what I say is fu sabob. 369 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.759 Oh my god, I love that. Okay, a function bob that 370 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.279 is hilarious and very on brand for me. Tim is gonna blush. I 371 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.240 mean I remember when I tried to get the video as a kid, but 372 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.039 like your picture is on the on the back of the box with like the 373 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.039 spear going through, so you know, like I was like, my parents 374 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.480 are never gonna like I literally have to do so much like finagling to get 375 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.759 the fun onto the counter without my parents flipping it over, and then they 376 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.279 cut all of that. Yeah, So this is what I wanted to ask 377 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.960 you first thing before we get into logistics. Something I'm hoping you can clear 378 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.319 up for us. They're all these rumors online. You know, people are 379 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.119 always posting stuff about how a much more explicit sex scene was filmed between you 380 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.880 and Marta and she did full frontal nudity, but then it was all cut 381 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.720 by the studio. Is that true? And then also to be equal, 382 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.640 do they at least require you to be naked during that scene? Two? 383 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.599 I do not. You know, certainly, it's very possible that film exists. 384 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:12.640 I'm not sure that anybody has that in terms of MARTA's naked breasts because 385 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.160 at the time we were filming, she was sixteen years old. Wow, 386 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.240 that's problematic. Yeah, that's you know, nowadays it would never happen, 387 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.160 of course. Yeah, but you know, and I was twenty six, 388 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:32.160 you know, so you know, who knows, you know, in retrospect, 389 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:40.880 that could be you know, arrested for statutory

ring. But so I'm 390 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:45.440 not sure just in terms of that. For the most part, you know, 391 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.839 yeah, the crew was very, very respectful, and there was only 392 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.720 a you know, a skeleton crew in the room when we were filming. 393 00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.759 But talk about skin on skin, you know, I was a very happy 394 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.279 cowboy. So you're both like fully naked on top of each other during the 395 00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.920 scene. No, like what do they call privacy cloths or anything. No, 396 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.559 Oh my gosh, I would be like, I'm thank you so much. 397 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.160 I have to go. You know. At the time, it was 398 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.240 you know, I don't know, yeah, you know, just in terms 399 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.480 of doing the scenes and actually doing the whole movie, it was all done, 400 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.319 you know, because everything was done with either one or two takes. 401 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:36.279 There was not a lot of there was no wasted time. So essentially it 402 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.799 was the kind of thing of where we would do a rehearsal and mainly the 403 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:45.119 rehearsals were for the camera because it was for the camera moves, and there 404 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:46.680 were a lot of dollies and things like that, and it was a dolly 405 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:51.000 shot from the bottom of the bed up towards the top of the bed, 406 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:57.440 and so I'm sure that we probably, you know, probably they just said, 407 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.920 okay, let's get started, and you know, the two of us 408 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.720 disrobed, got under the covers and didn't think anything about it. After that, 409 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.559 the spear effects come into play, like because obviously, like you guys 410 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:15.039 are there and then there's this Jason comes in and so like puts a spear 411 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.640 through your back, which wasn't your back. But how did they film that 412 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.960 whole effect? Like how many days did this take? That was separate the 413 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:29.720 actual spear and Carl Fullerton was the uh, you know, was the special 414 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.119 effects on that. And I, you know, they essentially made a mold 415 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.880 of my back, you know, from kind of mid buttocks up to my 416 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:45.759 shoulders, and that took the longest time in terms of attaching that latex to 417 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.240 my shoulders, so you could not see any scenes. So you know, 418 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.920 when I moved this way or moved that way or whatever, all of a 419 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.720 sudden it didn't wrinkle in a funny way. And we did two takes. 420 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:07.720 Each take took four hours, and there was you know, certainly a receptacle 421 00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:13.719 and you know, like a plaster Paris kind of thing where the spear could 422 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:21.679 go into and the tubes with the blood could come out. So and essentially, 423 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.199 once it was in place and they could see that it was seamless, 424 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.280 and I moved my head maybe once or twice or something so that they could 425 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:37.719 see that I was still a human being there that you know, Carl Fullaton 426 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:45.360 was standing off frame and just plunged it into my back where it was supposed 427 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.920 to go, and then the blood would you know, there were other guys 428 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.840 on the floor pumping blood. And once they got it, you know, 429 00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.239 once that was done, then it was like, okay, we got to 430 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.480 clean up. We're going to do it one more time. Wow. So 431 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:07.840 it was four hours to get to that point of the you know, maybe 432 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:15.639 at most ten seconds of frame time, and then they would clean it all 433 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.440 up, get it all set up again, and another ten seconds where they 434 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.480 plunged it in again, all while you and Martha had to just be sitting 435 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.519 there. Marta was not there, oh, Martin. Marta came in at 436 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:32.360 the very last because the bed had a hole in it. Marta came just 437 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:37.960 before they started to shoot, you know, and this is after I'm there 438 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:46.239 for four hours. She literally kind of slid underneath me so that it looked 439 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:51.039 like she was lying in bed, but essentially, you know, she was 440 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.159 just she was just you know, just basically you know, just her head 441 00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.679 and shoulders, so that it looked like she was underneath me. And the 442 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:07.239 way that the you know, the effect was on me, it looked like 443 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.400 somebody was under me, but she wasn't. She came in and actually was 444 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.360 you know, sitting sitting normally like like you normally sit and just kind of 445 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.360 got into place and went like this, Like what you can't see is that 446 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.079 like he's laying down just with his head like leaning back. So, you 447 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.480 know, a funny thing is in the Crystal Lake Memories documentary, you mentioned 448 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.239 that while you were waiting to film your death scene, the sound guy came 449 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:36.440 up and blew some sort of powder

into your mouth, which I guess made 450 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.559 you high. Can you tell us about like what was this powder? And 451 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.480 were you okay to keep filming? Well, you know, the thing was 452 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.559 is that it wasn't It had to have been some kind of a relaxer kind 453 00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:51.000 of thing, you know, And to this day, I don't know what 454 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.719 it was. But all I know is that it was like, you know, 455 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.519 oh God, are we you know, are we going to finish this? 456 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:00.360 Are we gonna? And I was like, what's going on? What's 457 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.519 taking down now? And then you know, he kind of came over and 458 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.000 you know, my head was this way on the bed, you know, 459 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.800 so he just came over to my basically, you know, just to me 460 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.800 right there, and he said open your mouth and I just went like this 461 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:20.679 and he and it was like ten minutes later, waw okay I want to 462 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.000 know what this power is when he acting, the only thing I had to 463 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:28.159 do was getting a spear through the back, So you know, it was 464 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.079 like it didn't matter that I was, you know, like well, and 465 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.239 I don't think you ever saw my eyes in that shot never, you know, 466 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.079 It's like I, you know, I could have you know, been 467 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:44.400 completely dilated and nobody would have ever known. But it certainly made the eight 468 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.639 hours a lot nicer and easier. That is hilarious. I love that he 469 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.079 an actual upstairs cabin, like in that tidy room with all the like the 470 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.400 crew in there. Yes, wow, that's a tight spot. Yeah, 471 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.280 And certainly the thing was is that you know, we did not have to 472 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.679 be there when they were basically setting up the lighting, which was most of 473 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:13.920 the time, and the setup. You know, we would come in very 474 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:21.679 close to filming. And although for my particular for that for the back thing, 475 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.679 of course, I had to be in the bed, which was a 476 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.519 special bed with a hole in it so that it looked like I was lying 477 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:36.320 there but I wasn't. And you know, but yeah, there was there 478 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.199 was you know, there was the camera, there was the dolly, there 479 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.719 was the focus puller, there was you know there was, and they tried 480 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.039 to minimize it as much as possible so that there weren't anybody nobody extra was 481 00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.960 in the room if if you either had a job and you had to perform 482 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.079 it while we were filming, or you know, yeah out in the hallway. 483 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:04.440 So wait, so that the parks that were cut other than if there's 484 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.760 this you know, nudity that everybody says on the internet exist that we don't 485 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:13.159 even know exists. The blood actually gushed up through the top of like your 486 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.719 latex back, like I guess in the back of the vhspot. So that 487 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.719 because again in the actual theatrical cut, you just see the spear go through 488 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.800 the bed and you see some blood guts below. You don't see a touch 489 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.800 flesh at all. But as you were filming, I take it you were 490 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.119 saying, they're blowing blood like out of the top of your back. There 491 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.559 is a I think it's a Blu ray box set which came out recently that 492 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:46.960 has all of the films in the extras of that it has that original footage. 493 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.039 Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, I think we I think I 494 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.840 know what you're talking about. Yeah, So when you actually saw your scene 495 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.480 for the first time edited and everything in like the final product. What did 496 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.840 you think? Yeah, were you like what happened all the footage? Well? 497 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.760 Yeah, you know, No, Actually I saw I add a screening 498 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:13.840 and Megan fran were there and my agent was there. I don't know if 499 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.400 any other cast members were there, but you know, it was just a 500 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:23.119 little screening room in mid Manhattan. And I turned to my agent I said, 501 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.440 that's it, you know, because it was like, what are you 502 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.920 kidding? And after the film, after the film finished, I said to 503 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.239 my agent, I said, well, it's not going to do me any 504 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:42.400 harm. So you know, there's something we were talking about details in dressed 505 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.119 account. It's something I've always wondered regarding the aftermath of your death scene. 506 00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.840 So Lauren Retaylor, you know, comes in the room. She backs into 507 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.440 your body, which is now propped up against the wall with a noose around 508 00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.480 your neck made of a sheet. Now, why did Jason need to hang 509 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.440 you by a sheet if you had already been skewed to death? Or did 510 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:06.880 Steve Miner ever

explain the thinking behind why you had to have a noose around 511 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.400 your neck at that point? You know, of course not, but visually 512 00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.679 it was great Oh yeah, what it did is it immediately not only was 513 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:19.559 it very scary for Lauren Marie's character, but also you know, it was 514 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:24.039 it was like the use of the sheet like that was fantastic because you could 515 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:30.480 get a lot of blood and cover up my naked body, you know, 516 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:37.360 so that it would remain uh you know PG. But you got the idea, 517 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:43.360 you know, so you know it in term and I'm sure it was 518 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.920 in the script that you know, it was something that just worked very well. 519 00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.800 Well, Jason needed room to get into that bed, to get under 520 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:57.320 the covers, that's true. Yeah, Jason was not. Jason was not. 521 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:01.639 It was pretty it was. It was not a small character. And 522 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.599 did you have to like because you know, Lauren Mary Taylor's death is like 523 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.159 a slow death. Did you were you there hanging on that sheet the entire 524 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:14.400 time? Now, the thing that's cool is that there is actually a little 525 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:21.400 like like I don't know, you know, two by four you know shelf 526 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.880 that they had there, which essentially, you know, in between takes, 527 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.639 I could you know, just kind of sit there and hang out and then 528 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.079 they started to film. All I had to do was slip off the shelf 529 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:43.280 and hang So I was only literally hanging for you know, the minute, 530 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.800 two minutes of filming, and then I'd go back sit on the just sit 531 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.039 on the shelf and wait for the next thing and then just do that. 532 00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.800 That's great. Well, now the most important question regarding your debt scene, 533 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.519 the most important one. Did you get to keep the latex back that was 534 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.639 made of your body? No, it was, it was pretty much. 535 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.840 And that's too bad. And actually it's fun. I mean, when we 536 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.599 finally got this film, the film that's on the box set, we I 537 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.639 Edwin Samuelson was doing a documentary for that box set and we started talking about 538 00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.440 it, and I, you know, I mentioned that I thought Carl Fullerton 539 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:31.039 had the original VHS with the with the cut out, you know, not 540 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:37.039 all not only that but also you know, just the different deaths and stuff 541 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.800 like that, and you know that that I had heard that he had that 542 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:49.639 original all that original stuff, and I just happened to have I still had 543 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:54.599 in my you know, rolodex or my address book his number from New Jersey 544 00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.639 when we first did, you know, because we went to New Jersey to 545 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.800 do the mold of the back and things like Russell Todd. They also have 546 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:12.119 Russell Todd's you know, you know, hanging upside down slit throat. And 547 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:17.639 so I said, well, I'm I'll give him a call and see, 548 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:23.039 you know, does he still have the VHS? And I don't think he 549 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:34.280 did not respond directly to me about but he did contact Peter Bracken and Edwin 550 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.199 Samuelson who were doing this documentary that was going to be part of the extra 551 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:47.159 footage and whatever. And so but you know, thanks to me, which 552 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.000 nobody seems to give me credit for, is that I got in touch with 553 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:57.400 Carl Fulleton and I said, okay, listen, Edwin Samlinson is getting on 554 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.760 you know, we can meet you anywhere if you have this VHS. And 555 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:08.639 he said, yes, he had the VHS and that and actually Carl Fullerton 556 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:15.280 has been doing like Denzel Washington's makeup for a you know, like a decade 557 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.519 or something like that. So he was about to get on a plane at 558 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:24.679 JFK and go to Los Angeles to work on a film with Denzel Washington. 559 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.880 And you know, don't quote me because I may be totally wrong with all 560 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:37.400 of my facts here, but so Edwin Samerson we tried to arrange to meet 561 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:43.679 him before he got on the plane at JFK and we missed him, missed 562 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:49.920 him there, but we immediately said, Okay, Peter Bracky, this is 563 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.800 the plane he's on, this is what he's landing in lax at this time, 564 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.360 you know, meet him and get this VHS. So Peter Bracky was 565 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:06.920 able to meet him and get the VHS. Then the VHS actually had to 566 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:12.599 be baked to get the images off of it. It was like the Jess 567 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.280 was so you know, it was forty years old. Oh yeah, because 568 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:21.519 the tape kind of like it apart. Yeah. Wow. So they actually, 569 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.400 you know, and certainly Los Angeles they have all sorts of different labs 570 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.599 that can you know, save

things. That's what they had to do. 571 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:35.280 They had to go bake the VHS to save the images and then they put 572 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.519 that, you know, on part of the box set. But where is 573 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.960 your latex back at today? Well? I think that you know, essentially, 574 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.800 when you put a spear through something and you pump a lot of you 575 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.760 know, fake blood, it's not necessarily something you want to hang on the 576 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:57.760 wall as a keepsake. We also wanted to ask you about that quick run 577 00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.639 through you do on camera while Ginny and Paul leaving the bar in the rain. 578 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.920 How did that come about? Did you just ask Steve Minor and say 579 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:07.000 like, hey, let me do a quick run through? Like, how'd 580 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:13.639 that come about? It was not asking Steve Minor. It was begging Steve 581 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.280 Minor for a week. You know, hey, let's do a hitchcock. 582 00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.480 Nobody's ever gonna know, nobody's ever gonna see it, nobody. It's just 583 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.920 going to be something that we will be able to talk about, you know, 584 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.920 one hundred years from now. And finally he said, yes, it's 585 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:36.000 so funny. I love that you could never ever spot it if you hadn't 586 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.000 mentioned it in Crystal Lake Memories. Yeah, so it's it's Janius because yeah, 587 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.599 it's so sad as that casino is no longer in existence. Oh I 588 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.159 know. Yeah, And Lord Marie Taylor said that she couldn't remember a premiere 589 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:52.280 or a cast and chrius screening. Do you remember one? No? Not 590 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.400 really. I mean I know that I saw it with, you know, 591 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.639 in a screening room with my agent, but beyond that, I don't think 592 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:06.119 they. Did you ever just go see it as a regular uh person? 593 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:07.280 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as a regular 594 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.800 person? Actually, yes, actually I did. I went to, you 595 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.880 know, because it was playing not too far from New York, uh, 596 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.559 you know, like across the George Washington Bridge in a uh you know, 597 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.039 theater complex or something. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't go. 598 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.360 Yeah, so what were their reactions like, especially during your death scene. 599 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.039 It was just too cool. You know, that was worth the price 600 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.960 of admission essentially, you know, because you know, I don't know, 601 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.280 I don't think I really disguised myself, but I certainly didn't you know, 602 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:54.000 want to draw attention to myself either. It was so much fun after, 603 00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:00.239 you know, to to hear the gasp, you know. And the thing 604 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:05.480 that's interesting, it was the original cut. So the gasp came when the 605 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.599 spear hit the floor with the blood, which you know, logically makes absolutely 606 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.280 no sense because if a spear is going through you know, a mattress and 607 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.400 springs and all this other stuff, it's not going to have any more blood 608 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:24.239 on it. But you know, and so yeah, that was really fun. 609 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.760 That's so cool. You know, we want to play a little game 610 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.159 real quick with you, where we ask you some simple questions and you just 611 00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.400 have to answer with the name of one of the following Friday to thirteenth Part 612 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:44.000 two co stars either Marta Kober who played your girlfriend, Sondra, Lauren, 613 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:49.280 Marie Taylor who played Vicky, Russell Todd who played Scott, Amy Steele who 614 00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.719 played Ginny, or John Fury, who played Paul. So obviously, you 615 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:53.599 know, we know you had other co stars in the film, but we 616 00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:57.840 just wanted to choose five. So we picked your on screen girlfriend and the 617 00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.800 four other we've had on our show. So again, the five names to 618 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.239 choose from Mark to Kober, Lauren, Marie Taylor, Russell Todd, Amy 619 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.920 Steele or John Fury. So among these co stars, who was the biggest 620 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:15.719 jokester or partier on set? More to Kober, Really, she seemed very 621 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.960 calm. Oh okay, wait calm oh oh, but I said the biggest 622 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.199 jokester, I mean jokes, I don't know, well, you know, 623 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.159 certainly if he added see if he added Stu, Stu was the biggest joke 624 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:40.000 crack. She seemed pretty calm. Who is the most reserved? John Fury? 625 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.719 Really, well, I mean he was the head guy in charge. 626 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.920 Certainly. The thing that's great about the conventions is that you know Russell Todd, 627 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.960 which I did not actually spend a lot of time with either on screen 628 00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:59.679 or off screen. Since the conventions, I've become a you know, a 629 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.199 you know, I've had a great time at conventions with Russell Todd and the 630 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.480 same with John Fury because John Fury, because he

was like the boss. 631 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:15.639 You know, I really didn't socialize with John Fury at all. Do people 632 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:21.480 ask you constantly whatever happened to Paul? Like you have something like like because 633 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.639 God, thank God, nobody, you know, thank God, only only 634 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:30.079 John Fury has to deal with that. So who was of those five who 635 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.280 was most like their Friday the thirteenth character in real life? John Fury? 636 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:37.960 Oh? Really, Yeah, that makes sense? Who did? Although he 637 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:45.519 has a much better sense of humor than he had as as ud counselor. 638 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:52.119 Who did you become closest to while filming? Uh? Well, the thing 639 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.519 that's great is that with both Stu and with Marta, because we're both from 640 00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:02.800 New York, we got to get before we went up to uh, before 641 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:09.800 we went off for filming, and Stu actually is a tremendous you know, 642 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:17.119 jazz pianist, and so we would go listen to him play, and yeah, 643 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:22.239 Marta, Stu and I became very close before we went up yeah, 644 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.480 you know, just for listeners. In case Stu Charno played a Ted, 645 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.360 just in case who survives this actually because he never goes back to the camp. 646 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.880 Yeah, yeah, who did you keep Now? Who of those five 647 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:42.480 did you keep in touch with the most after filming? Oh? Okay, 648 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.679 now we have something. The thing that's interesting is that you know, certainly 649 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:50.400 Stu lives in California, and I did a few jobs out in California, 650 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.639 and whenever I would do a job out in California, he and I would 651 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.920 get together. That makes sense. This is like a trivia question for you 652 00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.920 who made their feature film in the nineteen eighty slasher He Knows You're Alone, 653 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:08.679 it's one of those five. Russell Todd Yes, wow, good job. 654 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.199 He's in the opening scene. Which is the ironic part about that, And 655 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.159 we talked him about this, is that he gets hung upside down in that 656 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.960 movie to and that's what I remember. I do remember him talking about that. 657 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:22.480 Yeah, that's so funny. What are the odds? Okay, So 658 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:28.159 here's another trivia one about the five who went on to have a role in 659 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:34.960 nineteen nineties slumber Party Massacre three Martin. Yes, she was in it. 660 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:42.559 She played quote Pizza Girl, who went on to start in nineteen eighty six 661 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:47.880 slasher film April Fool's Day, Amy Steele Yes, three for three Wow, 662 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.519 Wow, Okay, this one I think you'll get maybe who's spouse also has 663 00:53:53.599 --> 00:54:01.400 a background in horror Wild guest John Fury, Yes, His wife Denise Gaelic 664 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.800 starred in Don't Answer the Phone and Humanoids from the Deep Wow. Yes, 665 00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.159 okay. And last one, this is a fun one who got killed by 666 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:15.280 someone wearing a bear costume in their next horror film after Fred thirteen Part two, 667 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:20.119 like pretty much right after Yeah, one year after Friday thirteen Part two, 668 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.880 this person was in a horror film where they got killed. I you 669 00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.840 know, I have no idea, but I'm thrown out Marta again. It's 670 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.079 Lauren Marie Taylor. She was in Girls Night Out and got killed by some 671 00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:38.480 Yeah. Okay, well so just you and so I didn't get one hundred, 672 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.039 you got four out of five. So close. Very great though, 673 00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.840 Like, yeah, so just a few more questions before you wrap up. 674 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.400 It looks like, by looking at IMDb in your resume, that you had 675 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.679 retired from acting in the early nineties. What led to that decision? I 676 00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:01.079 was very fortunate to have my wife and I had our son, and I 677 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:08.280 took the I mean, it's more mundane than anything altruistic, other than the 678 00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:15.199 fact that we needed health insurance and I was able to get a full time 679 00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:22.480 job at the New York Daily News doing graphic design, and so that's what 680 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.480 I did. So the twenty years that he's now. You know, so 681 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.840 those twenty years that I worked at the Daily News was for health insurance. 682 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.000 That makes sense a lot of people, especially when they have kids. You 683 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.599 know, you need a stable job with health insurance and a paycheck every couple 684 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:44.920 of weeks. And now has your child seene for their team Part two? 685 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:50.639 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And it's and it's 686 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.199 funny because you know, for the most part where you're trying to you know, 687 00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:59.199 downplay it or whatever, but you know, every once in a while, 688 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.880 like to say, like, you know, one of the secretaries or 689 00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:09.960 assistants at whatever school he was at, you know, he would you know, 690 00:56:10.119

--> 00:56:14.559 throw it out there. Listen my duds in Friday thirteenth, Part two, 691 00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.599 do you know that movie? And of course, you know, the 692 00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.440 the receptionist or or whatever would go, oh my god, you know, 693 00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:29.760 so so yeah, he would. He would use it whenever it benefited him. 694 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.000 Hey, why not, like get the extra cool points with people. 695 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.800 My dad was in this movie. I would That's awesome. Let me tell 696 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.000 you, I could not have been, you know, more excited and proud 697 00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:45.599 the fact that he was interested in mentioning it. You know, it's great 698 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:52.199 because otherwise, you know, I'm just dead well. And a question related 699 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.079 to just the whole series and the fandom in general, like when do you 700 00:56:55.239 --> 00:57:00.239 think you first became aware of all the fandom behind Friday the Thirteenth series and 701 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:05.159 why, in your opinion do you think people like it so much, especially 702 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.679 your sequel Part two? And I also want to add on to this question, 703 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:13.280 have you seen all the sequels in the theater since yours? No, 704 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:19.519 certainly not in the theater. And thank goodness for the box set, because 705 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.920 the box set, you know, we got everything plus extras, and that 706 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:28.599 really was the first, the first and easiest opportunity, you know, to 707 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:35.960 to watch them. And it becomes a bit of a struggle after a while, 708 00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.519 you know, just in terms of you know, you know, some 709 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:45.880 of it really kind of stretches the envelope and you're kind of go, Okay, 710 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:52.760 this is so. But but yeah, and but no, I did 711 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.960 not go see them in the theaters. But moving back to the question, 712 00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:00.199 though he just hijacked, when do you think you became I'm aware of all 713 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.679 that fandom? And why do you think that people like these movies so much? 714 00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:08.039 Especially your sequel? I you know, and I'm trying to remember, 715 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.719 because I don't really I can't really recall, but it was the conventions, 716 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:17.559 and I can't. I don't really remember the first convention that I went to. 717 00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:23.000 I think it was one here in it might have been a comic con 718 00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:29.559 here in New York City when it was just in a hotel across the street 719 00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:35.679 from from Madison Square Garden. You know, it was a really it was 720 00:58:35.920

--> 00:58:40.360 very small and you know, very few people, and more had more to 721 00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:50.000 do with vendors than it did with celebrities. But you know, I would 722 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:55.760 really it would that. It wasn't until we started doing conventions that I started 723 00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.679 to think, Wow, this is cool. I love the men. A 724 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:06.159 little bit of time went by before like there was this resurgence of fandom, 725 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.400 like was there in your life where just like I don't, it's so far 726 00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.480 behind me. Oh, absolutely, and certainly the thing was is that, 727 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:19.280 you know, having decided to, you know, take a real job and 728 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.480 for the most part, you know, kind of because it's difficult to be 729 00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:30.000 an actor and have a real job, you know, pretty much. Yeah, 730 00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:36.360 that's I realized. Okay, it's on, it's on hiatus. Let's 731 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.239 we'll wait and see what happens. You know, anybody got anything, I'm 732 00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.800 back in the game. Well that's all we want to know. What are 733 00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:49.480 you up to today? Are you? Would you ever consider doing another movie, 734 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:53.800 maybe especially a horror movie? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely. In fact, 735 00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:57.920 you know, I don't know I've been a member of the Actor's Studio. 736 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:02.440 I don't know if you know, anybody in the real world knows anything 737 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:10.079 about the Actors Studio, But it was, it wasn't and remains a tremendous 738 01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:16.400 place for you know, certainly, you know when it first started. You 739 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:23.480 know, we're talking about Eliacazen, Lee Strasberg, Marilyn Monroe, Cliff Robertson. 740 01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:28.800 You know, they were pretty much the beginning of it. But it 741 01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:35.719 still exists, and essentially there's a difficult rehearsal process to become a member, 742 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:39.760 but once you're a member, it's a lifetime membership and I can use that 743 01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:47.480 theater and those rehearsal rooms, you know, whenever for nothing. And there's 744 01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:52.880 always, there's always. There are two actor sessions each week on Tuesdays and 745 01:00:52.960 --> 01:01:00.599 Fridays, and to be able to go and watch people doing just you know, 746 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:09.199 amazing work for nobody but themselves. It it has been wonderful for me. 747 01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:16.079 And there's a director there that I worked with fifty years ago that is 748 01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:21.760 a member of the director's unit and he and I anytime he has a project, 749 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:23.199 he says, you know, come do this, Come do this with 750 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.960 me, Come do this with me. And you know, certainly it's not 751 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:32.559 for anything you know, commercial in particular, but you know, it just 752 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:39.159 gets the juices going again, and there's you know, you know, I'm 753 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:44.519 open for anything. I mean, I will tell you this, like as 754 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.679 major fans of the Friday the Thirteenth films, fans of all of these films 755 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:53.719 love to see the actors from this franchise in other horror movies. I mean, 756 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:59.119 the second they say starring this person from Friday the Thirteenth, part whatever, 757 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.159 You've got a whole fan base and audience for that. So follow you 758 01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.199 to the end of the year. Yeah, we would love to see you 759 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:10.800 in more horror sometime. You guys know any producers, Well, think about 760 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.960 it, we'll think about we have Well, first off, we have one 761 01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.559 final question for you, Bill, and thank you for all of your time 762 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:20.280 today. It's going to kind of put you on the spot, so we'll 763 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.840 give you a second to think about it. But we asked us to every 764 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:28.639 single guest, Uh, what is one thing, just one thing that you 765 01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:30.639 can tell us about your experience working on Friday the thirteenth, Part two, 766 01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:37.440 that you've never told any other interviewer, publication, convention Q and a podcaster. 767 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.400 Just one thing. It doesn't have to be like the most salacious detail 768 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.079 unless you want it to be. It could be something simple, whatever, 769 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.079 Just something that you have never told any other podcast or convention Q and a 770 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.440 thing about your retailer. Yeah, you haven't even told Laura Marietaylor about working 771 01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:59.000 on Friday to thirteeth Part two. Well, I would never tell Lorne Marie 772 01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:12.880 Taylor this the whole skin on Skin day that I spent with Marta. Yeah, 773 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:20.639 you know, certainly that's more enjoyable than I have ever admitted. You 774 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:27.239 both have poison ivy. Yeah, you know, Yeah, there is a 775 01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:34.760 whole lot of rubbing going on. Wow, And you know, sometimes you 776 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.400 have to do go a little method, I guess, Okay, I tell 777 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:44.119 you. The thing that's amazing is that, you know, unfortunately haven't seen 778 01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:49.440 as much of Marda at conventions as I would love to

because she is just 779 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:55.360 she's you know, she and Stu, both she and Stu because there I 780 01:03:55.440 --> 01:04:00.800 guess they're California based, just don't. They don't seem to come to the 781 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:08.000 East Coast conventions that much. But you know, there's nothing I would like 782 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:15.119 better to go have dinner with the two of them again, that'd be great. 783 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.400 I mean, I think that could happen. Maybe well when this episode 784 01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.519 comes out, maybe we can look for them on social media and tag them 785 01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:27.559 and they can hear you say that directly. Yes, yes, you can 786 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:31.840 go too, Chris Steakhouse. Ye. No, that is great, And 787 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.320 you know, it's it's so nice for people like us to hear that. 788 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:40.320 Like we talked to so many people from horror movies who have said that conventions 789 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.639 are the way they've been able to keep in touch with so many their old 790 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.239 coast stars, you know, And I think that's great because you shared an 791 01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:50.760 experience. It was a long time ago, but it's become so iconic and 792 01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:54.960 now a lot of these conventions allow you all to like, you know, 793 01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:57.800 see each It's like it's like going back to your high school. The cool 794 01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.960 thing is is like the frid thirteenth films. I always say I'm a broken 795 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.719 record, but they're so beautifully shot. There's a lot of time in like 796 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.280 the you know, the look of the film, the music of the film, 797 01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:12.079 the actors. Like there is something just really cool about this exclusive club 798 01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.199 that you're in. And also your sequel, Like I can tell you in 799 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:16.920 my opinion, why I think people like your sequel so much. Your sequel. 800 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.280 First off, Part two is like one of the ones most people answer 801 01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:25.760 as their favorite one in the series. I think it has a kept things 802 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.480 simple. You know, there's no Jason in space. It has a great 803 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:31.679 fun cast with all the different people you want to see at a camp. 804 01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:35.559 It has a great strong final girl, and don't know what happened to Paul, 805 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.119 Well, we don't know what happened upon and has a really scary villain. 806 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:43.519 Like That's why I think Part two especially stands out among the sequels, 807 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.679 you know, as one of those that most people say is like their favorite. 808 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:55.840 Well, I think we were very lucky that we were number two because 809 01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.840 I think that, you know, because certainly Steve Minor and a lot of 810 01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:03.199 the people that were involved in Part one did Part two, and I think 811 01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:12.159 that the the you know whatever, experience and knowledge and and help that they 812 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:18.679 got from doing it doing Part one we completely benefited from. Yeah, so 813 01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:24.519 uh, you know, and of course, you know, you know, 814 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:27.519 it's hard for me to say this, but Part two is my favorite. 815 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.480 Well, how come do you get residuals from the other sequels, because aren't 816 01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:35.199 you like in Part four, like in a brief second, No, no, 817 01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.519 right, you are in the like in the I think the back of 818 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:45.320 you in the camps. Yeah, you should be contact Paramount. Talk to 819 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.280 John Fury about this. He knows all about how to Oh yeah yeah, 820 01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:51.880 yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to. It's like a quick second. 821 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:57.400 I hey, that's you. You getting that money? Yeah? Really? 822 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:01.239 In fact, I'll give John a cut if he gets it for me. 823 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:04.719 You could work that out. Well, look, we've had such a 824 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:10.159 last talking with you. Thank you so much for taking the time my pleasure. 825 01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.039 Thank you so much. Seriously, we will be in touch when the 826 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:16.440 episode comes out. And we really appreciate your time. Thank you so much 827 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:20.400 for chatting with us, spending the afternoon with us. We've had a blast. 828 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.000 Okay, yeah, me too, and we hope to meet you in 829 01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:26.400 person. Sometimes we come to some of these conventions, so I mean, 830 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:29.760 we're on the West coast, but if you're ever in California or wherever on 831 01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:31.360 the East coast at a convention, we can come up and say hi. 832 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.840 It used to be that California wasn't that far away. It seems like since 833 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:40.719 COVID, California has become much further away. I hear you. There's some 834 01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:45.400 great NonStop quick flights though. Yeah, and then you can have that dinner 835 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:50.719 with Stu Charno and Marta Throwing, Russell Todd and John Oh yeah, listen, 836 01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:54.400 let me tell you, Russell Todd, I've had such a good In 837 01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:59.239 fact, Lauren, Marie and Russell and I have been trying to finagle you 838 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.920 know, somebody else to work with us in terms of getting us conventions, 839 01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:09.280 just because it's been so dry this last year. And you know, we've 840 01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:15.559 been in you know, text contact almost you know, every week at least. 841 01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.159 Oh well, please tell them we said hi. We've had both them 842 01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.760 on the show. We love both of them. They're great. I have 843 01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.640 all of your co stars are great. So yeah, we love them. 844 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:29.199 Yeah, we got really lucky. Yes, well, have a great rest 845 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:30.760 of your day. We really appreciate it and we'll definitely be in touch. 846 01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.359 Okay, okay, great, Thank you guys, take care, Thank you, 847 01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:45.640 thanks for listening to another episode of Happy Horror Time. If you'd like 848 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:50.119 to support the podcast, please sign up to be a patron at www dot 849 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:56.000 patreon dot com slash Happy Horror Time. 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