บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Halloween: Resurrection (2002)

00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:35.920 And when we think about even our Discord community, this movie has become such a staple and has become such a community treasure, especially because there's like basically a cult for Buster Rhymes in our Discord community. 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:41.439 And I think it's because this has such strong rewatchability. 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:47.920 Yeah, there's a lot of this movie that's super unserious, 100%, but that makes it really fun. 00:04:48.160 --> 00:05:02.000 I think what this film had working in its favor, with me at least, in terms of my experience and just impressions initially, is that I actually like early 2000s movies as bad as they are. 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.319 Maybe I I'm a 2000s kid, not necess necessarily, right? 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.600 But like that's my era from when I was a kid, a teen. 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:11.040 I love the aesthetics. 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:12.800 I think it's ridiculous. 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:27.920 So I was excited to see the credits and the musicians that cross over into the film and the Microsoft Word presentation of it all, like all of it is just so 2000s, and I love that stuff. 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.519 So I think it's definitely got to be for a specific demographic. 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:35.519 If you don't like that era, then sure, you're maybe not going to enjoy it. 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.879 But for me, the ride was quite the ride. 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.639 The Busta Rhymes cult, again, delivered. 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.560 I was very surprised by how much fun I had. 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.560 I thought it was hilarious. 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.399 It was like energetic. 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:56.160 Again, that watch along, I really can't recommend it enough because the commentary was just A1 from me. 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.160 I think it's like a time capsule. 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:00.000 I really had a good time. 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.240 And there are some moments here that absolutely floored me. 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:09.120 I really didn't know what was going to happen next, especially like in the first maybe 15 to 20 minutes. 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.639 I was like, wait the hell a second. 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:22.079 Again, those predictions, throw them out because I really didn't know what I was going to be walking into, which is at least something that you're hoping for when you're going into a movie. 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:25.360 It kind of, you know, subverts your expectations, at least in that way. 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:35.439 Listen, where else can you get a movie that has Jamie Lee Curtis, Bustin Rhimes, Tyra Banks, Katie Sackoff, Sean Patrick Thomas, and Ryan Freaking Merriman in it? 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:36.240 Amazing. 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:36.800 What? 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:38.160 Like that's crazy. 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:46.959 Those all of those names in one sentence, I don't even know what I'm picturing, but it wasn't Halloween Resurrection until I've seen it now, and I've seen it actually play out. 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.720 And it's like, okay, guys, you guys just don't want to have fun, do you? 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.000 You don't want to have a good time. 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.480 You don't want to be here for the laughs and the sillies. 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:58.079 This is the whimsy of the Halloween franchise, I think. 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:00.240 I 100% with you on that. 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.360 It's also the internet material that's prompted from here. 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:04.399 I can see it now. 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:05.519 I can see the memes. 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.040 I understand our Discord a lot better now. 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:10.879 I finally get it. 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:12.879 I really do. 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.160 I think it's wild that this movie gets so much hate. 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:20.480 There's so many bad reviews for this movie, but it it is something I get it. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:24.480 Like at one one aspect of it, the film makes some different choices. 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.439 It's definitely bringing into like a new generation. 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:37.680 It's playing with the early 2000s and the internet being like something that fairly new this concept of streaming stuff and all of that that could frustrate some longtime fans. 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:44.000 But I I think that it just has a very different personality from the earlier films. 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:52.240 And I think that despite it not having the kindest ratings over the years, I think it it definitely has a charm to it. 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.399 Like it is just a fun movie to watch. 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.839 Just like Chris said, I don't understand the hate for this movie. 00:07:57.920 --> 00:07:59.600 It's pretty wild, to be honest. 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:10.319 When Binx and I wrapped up the watch-along for Halloween Resurrection, we actually spent a little while looking at all the letterbox reviews, and I read a bunch of them out loud. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:14.639 And the goal was to see how far you could get before you got to a single compliment. 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:16.079 Folks, it was a while. 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.879 I was scrolling for a long time before I could find anyone saying anything nice about this movie. 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:25.519 Are the people that are giving reviews online, are they just like so serious? 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:30.319 Like they have to have like a like it has to be like an Oscar-winning horror film. 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:38.159 Like, are we but to do here's the thing, and tell me when I'm telling lies here, but horror fans want a good time, right? 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:39.519 Like you want to have a fun time. 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:41.279 It doesn't all have to be super serious. 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.000 We want some of the funny,

silly campiness. 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.600 Like that's part of the charm is to have a bee horror movie kind of concept, right? 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:56.399 Not that this is even a bee horror movie, but you gotta say that you go out there and watch horror movies, you don't want something extremely serious every single time. 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.360 And so why can't you just have fun with some of these movies? 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:03.039 Or why can't you just admit that you're having fun with some of these horror movies? 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.000 Because maybe you're just putting up some fucking keyboard warrior shit. 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:06.480 I don't know. 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:11.440 I've never been more seen by that sentiment and more aligned. 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.279 I'm gonna say something crazy. 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:14.720 I hope I don't get canceled. 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:37.600 But what I'm what I'm trying to without being an asshole about it, it's like I just don't understand why people would approach a franchise such as this or Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street, thinking that this is supposed to be like very serious, again, Oscar-worthy type performances when there are like 25 movies. 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:52.080 I'm sorry, but no franchise, to me, I I personal opinion, if a if a franchise has 25 movies, you actually think that every single one of those movies are going to be serious pieces of art that are in the Louvre, get out of here. 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:53.440 I think that's ridiculous. 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:59.679 What makes these franchises so fun are that they are campy, they're fun, they they're experimental. 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:01.200 That's why there's 25 of them. 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:09.919 Every single movie, sure, there's a through line, but the aesthetics and the vibe and the genre or subgenre specifically changes. 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:18.080 If you walk into a theater thinking that this is going to be like a very serious think piece, I think you're walking into the wrong theater. 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:19.360 That's impossible. 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:20.399 That's just me. 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.639 There it could be that the first movie, again, is, and I actually feel this way about Halloween. 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:26.240 The first movie is incredible. 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.720 I think the same way about Friday the 13th. 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.519 But as you guys know, uh by the 14th movie, I'm like, okay, this is ridiculous. 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.759 We have Jason punching somebody's head off. 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:40.799 Or in Michael Myers, I mean, well, he keeps coming back to life in 55 different ways. 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:41.600 I don't even know why. 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.960 It's just, I just don't understand how people take these things so seriously. 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:50.879 Chris is a great example of someone who, like, to me, understands the franchise. 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:52.720 You're not like a dick about it. 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:54.399 Personally, Chris, I think so. 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.480 Like you're a mega fan, but I think you understand what you're walking into. 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:15.919 I feel from the way that you talk about these movies, I've I feel like you're a mega fan that understands what they're a fan of and not putting these insane expectations, thinking that they're gonna get, I don't know, like possession or you know, Japanese horror and all these other like autour horror films. 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:17.360 That's not this genre. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.200 I appreciate that, Binks, so much. 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.240 I do take Halloween very, very seriously. 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.480 And I love that you say I'm not a dick about it. 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.559 Hopefully, you still say that next year when we do Rob Zombies Halloween films. 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:36.559 What I will say is the first movie in this franchise is so foundational and pivotal to what horror has become. 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.279 And there's a lot of seriousness in that movie. 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.000 I think people generally take it pretty seriously. 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:53.600 If you're watching Halloween for the very first time and you are under the age of maybe 25 years old and you're just getting into horror, you're not going to be wowed by the original Halloween, probably. 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.879 You might find it, arguably, a little bit boring. 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:58.480 Some people might get there. 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:05.120 But there's so much to love or even dislike within this franchise. 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:10.559 But what I would what I would say to you is there's a lot of things in life that you should take seriously. 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:11.840 A hundred percent. 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:21.840 There's a lot more stressful shit in the world than what even the dumb shit from like Halloween 5, the cops having their own goofy fucking clown music. 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:30.559 There's a lot of things that you can look at in this movie or in Rob Zombies movies or the franchise as a whole and be upset about. 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:38.799 However, invite some joy into your life because we get some shit in this movie that is undeniably fucking hilarious, actually. 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:48.879 When you look back to where we all were in the early 2000s, and I think within our age bracket here, we were catfishing people with ASL and chat rooms and AOL. 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:50.000 You can throw me in there. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:50.639 Absolutely. 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:51.279 That's okay. 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:51.759 Yeah. 00:12:52.000 --> 00:13:03.200 It's when the internet was a playground, and before, like I think people knew oh, this is dangerous, but it was before anybody was really doing anything about how

dangerous it really was. 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:11.279 What we're living in today is what this movie aspired to have: a world in which you could be internet famous. 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.799 And I think that's so much of what works in this movie. 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:21.279 There's the the entire webcast premise adds a lot of intrigue, the mixed camera perspectives. 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:25.360 I think Buster Rhymes adds a lot of charm into this movie. 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.799 I think it just all adds like so much to the movie. 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:38.799 Like when you think of the the time frame in which this movie comes out, a lot of what they did to bring it, it's kind of exactly what this movie did for the 2000s for a younger generation. 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:50.000 It really is, but I think yes, this movie can be silly in so many places, but I think you also have to give it credit for what it does really well because this is an inversion of War of the Worlds. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:14:16.159 And this movie, while yes, shadowed in humor and silliness, and maybe some things and some choices that really upset a lot of like really hyper, hyper fixated fans of Halloween, uh myself included, for all that it does that is in that category, it actually does some things that are really smart and really big commentary on where technology and where society was headed. 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.159 This movie was both ahead of its time and of its time. 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:32.399 I can see definitely this idea of like sensationalism and just like chasing the dream, all of these kinds of elements that we already have in place in society, just with the added touch of technology. 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:38.080 And again, that's like the thought-provoking part of this film that I thought was kind of interesting. 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.799 It's just mixed in with a lot of humor and what's wrong with that. 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.799 I think that that's actually when it works its best, right? 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.000 Because it's not taking itself too seriously, but it still has something to say. 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.600 There's still themes to it. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:56.879 Now, I will say that perhaps some areas that maybe are not going to be everyone's cup of tea. 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.639 I'm not trying to say that I don't understand why people don't like the movie. 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:07.519 I think that being so like bashing it and like just trashing it the way that they do is maybe a bit extreme, personally. 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.799 But yes, I'm not going to say that the acting is incredible. 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.600 Some of it's early 2000s for sure. 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:15.919 The dialogue, a bit cringe. 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:17.679 Kind of love it personally. 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:18.639 Others can't. 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:26.080 There's certainly some things here that I can see why people are upset and I can see why it's just not their cup of tea. 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:34.080 But I go back to if that's not your subgenre for early 2000s and that sense of humor is not for you, then of course it's a given. 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:42.799 Other than that, though, I mean some of the decisions here, survival decisions, or just like storyline perspective, I was shocked by. 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:49.200 I don't know if it's necessarily that it doesn't work for me, but I was just really shocked by it's gonna be a hit or miss. 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:55.840 Yeah, I think the reality, folks, is you have to follow H2O. 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:03.840 And there are consequences to following H2O, and there's a lot of decisions that happen in this movie as a consequence of that. 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.000 This movie is kind of the fallout of that of that. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:26.639 However, what I will say is that when you learn more about the movie and what was happening behind the scenes, that has eased a lot of that for me, knowing that some things that are specifically decided and the things that happened early in this movie were decisions that were made by multiple people and aligned on by multiple people. 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:36.240 Again, we'll talk about that in the spoiler zone, but it's the only thing that allows me to just be at peace with it and move on and let me enjoy the rest of the movie. 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:37.759 Yeah, it is interesting. 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.120 I think that's one of the things that can you can go back and forth on. 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.279 Like I think it's the approach to continuing that story after H2O. 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:47.360 It just may be a sticking point for fans. 00:16:47.600 --> 00:17:00.159 I think if you like wanted a more satisfying continuation or something along those lines, you were talking about the tone of the movie, and we're talking about is it just leaning into kind of the the jokes or the campiness? 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:09.039 And I think the movie kind of plays around with both sides of that because what does end up working is some of the familiar atmosphere with Michael with the mask. 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:24.640 You've got some dark interiors, you've got some stalking sequences, and they can deliver some moments of tension throughout the movie, but then it also definitely finds moments where it leans really heavy into the campiness or the silliness of the jokes and things like that. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:34.319 So it kind of plays on deciding whether it wants to be genuinely a frightening slasher film or more of a campy slasher type film. 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:36.000 And so it kind of goes back and forth. 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.000 So it depends on what kind of vibe you're in. 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:47.440 But also at this time when this movie came out, I don't know about any of you, but like I was looking for campy movies, like I was looking for movies that

had silliness into it. 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:54.319 I wanted to see slashers that were filled with one-liners and fun like little things like that. 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.880 So I think it just speaks to the time. 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:17.519 And I what I do think, and it a thing that works really well is just its decision to kind of you know bring that reality TV premise into the mix because for a 2002 horror movie, using an internet reality show as the setup was really kind of a fresh idea. 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:26.400 And so, you know, having a group of contestants, you know, spending the night inside of Michael Myers' house or childhood home with cameras and all that stuff is really awesome. 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.759 It's like a it's a actually kind of a fun idea to think about. 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:31.839 And so I had a great time with it. 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:45.279 I think it combines the slasher genre genre with the reality TV craze of the early 2000s when shows were like built around surveillance and strangers living together and all of that kind of stuff in mainstream entertainment. 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:51.680 So it's cool because it makes it makes this different play of like the audience becomes part of the concept in a way. 00:18:52.000 --> 00:19:00.400 Which I really love because this really is a time capsule for what it felt like when even just those shows were really emerging. 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.759 The real world, the real world, absolutely. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.960 I also want to give this movie credit for one more thing. 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:13.839 I want to point out that by this time in the franchise, we had a gothic Myers house and we had a bunch of shitty masks. 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:21.839 H2O, for all it does really well, it also still had a shitty CGI mask, or you could see straight through Michael's eyes. 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:29.759 And I will say that I think the design in the Myers house, and then even Michael's mask as a whole, is one of the better in the franchise. 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:38.000 So you get a lot of things in here that actually did it, at least for me, put it over the edge of there's way more good in this movie than there is bad. 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:53.839 Which I think brings me to the fact that if you're open to having fun with a Halloween movie, and maybe you didn't love the the Thorn trilogy, I think if you grew up with those, you may be less likely to like Halloween Resurrection. 00:19:54.400 --> 00:20:04.400 But if you're finding your own way in the franchise and you can look at the the camp of it all, you can find the whimsy of it all, then I think this is gonna be a Halloween movie for you. 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:22.000 If you are a diehard fan of the Halloween franchise, or you wanna you are just someone that has to be a completist and you wanna, you know, you have to watch all the movies like we often do every year, like this is definitely something that you have to include, and that's just a given, right? 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.440 You can't just skip things if you're completing the franchise. 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:52.559 But I think like if you if you like movies that don't just do the same thing over and over again and try to give you something fresh, if you like early 2000s slashers, if you like the early 2000s kind of vibes, I think there's a lot here that you can either be a longtime Halloween fan, you can be an early 2000s horror fan, you can be someone that just likes kind of a fun, silly time in horror and still really like this movie. 00:20:52.960 --> 00:21:03.759 Something that you said earlier, I definitely think is something to reiterate, which is sometimes you just kind of want a good time, a good laugh, a good campy film. 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:13.119 I was thinking when you said that this is 2002, it just finally hit the light bulb, which was like, man, this is post-9-11, still to the, you know what I mean? 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:18.720 In in the essence of like, we were in the trenches and scared as a country. 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:20.319 Why not have a good laugh? 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:29.920 With the with the whole surveillance of it all, which is still very relevant considering the time, I find that like Buster Rhymes really does bring the levity. 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.240 You know, there's a lot of good humor here. 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:38.880 So if you don't want to watch something that's too serious and you just want a good laugh, I would recommend this. 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:44.240 And also, it could also be a matter of maybe you just need to watch this movie with a couple friends. 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:58.079 Cause I also feel like having watched this with Chris and like doing the watch along, the way that our community talks about this movie, you know, that builds up the excitement and that definitely does create the like the ambiance for everything. 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.400 So we've talked about that sometimes in the Past. 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.799 I'm sure I wouldn't love Ginger Dead Man had I not watched it with a friend of mine, right? 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:06.000 And had a good laugh with it. 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:14.799 So a recommendation if you do want to, of course, be a completionist, but change it up if you uh maybe don't like this movie as much as you have in the past. 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:16.880 Change up the environment, see how it goes. 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:23.440 Well, it sounds like we've spoken pretty highly about this movie so far, but I cannot wait to see how this actually translates into some scores. 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.119 Before we get there though, Sean, how would you describe the gore score? 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:34.880 Yeah, Halloween Resurrection, I think it delivers a kind of a middle-of-the-road slasher experience when it comes to gore specifically. 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:46.960 I think there's like enough

blood and physical violence to satisfy someone who's looking for maybe a conventional slasher film, but it isn't especially graphic or extreme by any modern horror standards. 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:55.920 So I think the important distinction here is that it's more about Michael Myers hunting people than showcasing elaborate gore effects. 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:06.880 So if you're watching for outrageous practical effects or gruesome dismemberment or stomach turning kills or anything like that, it's probably not going to be the entry that satisfies you the most as far as gore. 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:10.480 But I think this one still kind of earns this medium gore score territory. 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:12.079 What about the animal report? 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.039 Unfortunately, vermin are not doing so hot in this film, so we are not safe here. 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:18.799 Let's go ahead and get into our ratings. 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:25.519 Halloween Resurrection from 2002, one of the most critically panned movies in the franchise. 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:27.759 Was it a hack or a slash? 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:28.319 Alright. 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:41.839 Well, first I'm just gonna kick this off because I just want to start this or end this trend, you know, rather, of the um terrible reviews that this movie has, because I think Halloween Resurrection is one of these movies that I secretly enjoy. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.359 And I don't even say secretly as it is a secret, I just enjoy the movie. 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:50.640 Even though I know a lot of Halloween fans would rather bury it in the backyard and pretend it never happened. 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.119 Here's the thing did it resurrect the franchise? 00:23:53.359 --> 00:24:01.920 Maybe not exactly, but having grown up with this one hitting theaters during my teenage years, there's a nostalgic soft spot that makes it hard for me to hate. 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:13.039 I think the reality show concept, the contestants stumbling around the Myers house like they're filming the world's like worst home invasion livestream, and Buster Rhymes being in this one at all. 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.680 Like it was just amazing, and I think it just provides plenty of ridiculous entertainment. 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:29.519 I think just watching Buster Rhymes square off against Michael Myers in that over-the-top showdown that we get is kind of absolutely bonkers, and it's the kind of decision that makes this movie completely memorable. 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:42.480 I think it's a cheesy movie sometimes, it's campy at times, it's not particularly the scariest in the franchise, and it does make some choices that I think have some Halloween purists, you know, sharpening their knives a little bit. 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:50.559 But between the kills, the early 2000s, nostalgia, the sheer audacity of it all, I still have a damn good time watching this one. 00:24:50.720 --> 00:25:10.799 So grab your webcams, fire up your dial-up internet, lock the doors, because I think Michael Myers is back in this one, and I think this time he's coming for your stream, your subscribers, and your life, because Halloween Resurrection may not have brought the franchise back from the dead, but it did remind me that sometimes a movie doesn't have to be amazing to be a bloody good time. 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:20.960 And if the Halloween fan police, as it were, come knocking, tell them Freddie Harris sent you, because around here we're giving this one a slash and we're not apologizing for shit. 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:21.519 All right. 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.559 I'll go next. 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:32.000 I feel like I don't have an insane amount of things to say here because I feel like a lot of it was, you know, definitely said in detail in the watch-along. 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.799 So I really do encourage that if you guys are able. 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:45.680 I just feel like my sentiments around this franchise have been well known in the past couple episodes that we've done on this and conversations I've had with listeners and you guys. 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.759 I know that I maybe seem to be a franchise hater, I guess, which is crazy. 00:25:51.839 --> 00:26:04.160 I I Nightmare on Elm Street is one of my favorite things of all time, but I just am critical of when fandoms take it a little bit too far and ruin the fun for everybody else. 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:13.759 And I say this specifically because as someone who actually likes more serious horror, I don't always want to have a good time. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:23.759 Horror is my way to unpack a lot of my own trauma, my own things, and I just love to be philosophically challenged through horror. 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.319 So I seek those things out more often. 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:37.519 But I say that because doesn't mean that when I'm brought a fun, good time, that I'm not going to expect, again, philosophical thrillers and horrors and challenging. 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.279 I was looking forward to it because I knew Buster Rhimes was going to be in it. 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:42.799 And I've, again, had seen the memes. 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.039 I wanted to be in on the joke so bad. 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:50.240 I knew that anything goes when it comes to this kind of franchise. 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.680 So my predictions were all over the place, that's for sure. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:27:03.519 And I feel like what I got in return was not for anything, but a pleasant surprise, not just in story, but also in production value and the way that it was filmed. 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:14.000 I thought that it was really cool with the difference of technology that was used, the different cameras, the experimentation of found footage with just regular, you know, filmmaking. 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:14.960 That's awesome. 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:20.559 I wasn't walking into a Halloween movie

thinking we're just gonna test things out. 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.440 Now, that being said, 2002, I get it. 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.759 That was a wild year for horror. 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.240 Some of my favorite horror movies of all time came out in 2002. 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.400 The Ring, specifically, okay? 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.960 Juan's the Grudge specifically. 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.799 Like 28 days later, that's a crazy year. 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:39.680 Signs. 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.319 I mean, 2002 was crazy. 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:51.680 It was incredible, and I understand that when you put this movie against those, well, yeah, it probably seems like it's ass. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.200 I get it. 00:27:53.519 --> 00:28:02.319 But much like Resident Evil, that also came out in 2002, this might be a new guilty pleasure for me that I'm not so guilty about. 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:09.200 Like you said, Sean, I feel like sometimes everyone just wants to hate one thing and it's like a hive mind mentality. 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.640 And maybe unfortunately, Halloween resurrection became that thing. 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.200 But in this household, guess what? 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:22.079 We also ride for Halloween Resurrection at Dark and Buster Rhymes, You're Incredible. 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.240 So it's definitely a slash here. 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:28.240 I'm so excited to hear that you've both found so much love for this movie. 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.720 Banks is gonna fucking roast me for this. 00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:35.680 Seven years after this movie came out, a little hit show called Glee hit the airwaves. 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.279 I knew you were gonna say that. 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:44.079 And Glee, in our time now, in the year of our Lord 2026, was just announced to have a reboot on the horizon. 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:49.519 The way that you somehow found a way to bring up Glee here is crazy work. 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:50.880 Are you not filled with glee? 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.200 Anyway, just really kick off my scoring. 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:59.200 I want to throw this back to season one of Glee and really quote Rachel Barry in the vitamin D episode. 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:08.400 She says, We have chosen a selection of songs that speaks of the nation as a whole during these troubling times filled with economic uncertainty and unbridled social woes. 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.960 Because if there's two things America needs right now, that is sunshine and optimism. 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:26.160 Well, I think my version of sunshine and optimism in these troubling times, filled with economic uncertainty and unbridled social woes, is a busta rhymes, round house kicking Michael Myers. 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:33.759 Because this movie is filled with so much nonsense that I love unapologetically. 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:45.759 It captures the early 2000s, but it it captures the little pockets of joy for me that I had in the early 2000s, while also finding an inventive way to put Michael Myers back on screen. 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:53.519 And I don't think it's so bad it's good really is just it does justice to what is great about this movie. 00:29:54.319 --> 00:30:03.680 There are specific ideas, scenes, and filmmaking choices here that I do think really work, especially with how much substance its exploitation angle actually gives us. 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:08.880 There's room for sure to revisit this movie now and appreciate how much it offers. 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.720 The internet stuff has become this ridiculous little time capsule. 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:20.960 The webcast gives us really creative suspense, and Boston Rhimes as Freddie gives us someone to laugh with and cheer for. 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:28.480 Sometimes getting together with your friends and having a fucking blast watching a slasher in these times counts for a lot. 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:35.039 I had a great time doing that with Binks, and that is what keeps Halloween Resurrection slash. 00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:40.400 And with that, Halloween Resurrection has thus far earned a universal slash. 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:52.400 Now, obviously, we have talked about a lot, but when we get back after our break, we're gonna get into everything the camera's caught, everything dangertainment staged, and the opening that made us revisit the ending of H2O a little differently. 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:53.920 Stick around. 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:07.279 Tired of dating shows, cooking competitions, and watching people renovate houses they can't afford. 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:15.519 Well, wake up, sheeple! 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00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:36.719 Because I couldn't even believe that they would have the audacity. 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.280 And I feel like everybody shares in that sentiment, right? 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.039 I just, what do you even mean that they decapit that it's the wrong person? 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:44.000 What do you even mean? 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:52.320 Would it be better for it to be the wrong person, or would it be better for Michael Myers to just somehow show back up after being decapitated? 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:52.880 Okay. 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.239 So let's get into my prediction. 00:34:54.400 --> 00:35:05.920 I mean, you're right, because if I was right about my prediction and he was indeed a zombie-looking thing, or like revived by Haddonfield's whatever the fuck, right? 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:07.440 Like zombie Jason. 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:08.960 Yeah, basically. 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:14.559 I just I can see why now we're entering unforgivable camp territory. 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:15.920 So that's fair. 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.679 I just I can't be too critical of that specifically, because you're right. 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:30.320 It was either have a zombie and this movie is ridiculous to a degree that maybe I wouldn't have liked it, or this where it's highly improbable, but improbable enough. 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.400 So I think one of the things to acknowledge here is why this even happened in the first place. 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:46.079 And that was because Jamie Lee Curtis's terms and conditions, but because she was about to walk from H2O, was that she wanted the story to end. 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:47.440 She wanted to kill Michael. 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:47.760 Uh uh. 00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:56.639 Mustafa Cud and the rights holders were like, we need to leave a clear door for Michael to be able to return, you're not gonna kill him. 00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:05.039 So Kevin Williams' idea and compromise was to stage this body swap situation as a backdoor. 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:14.559 And as long as Jamie Lee Curtis felt that the audiences could watch the H2O thinking, yes, it's definitively over, then that was enough of a win. 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.360 But she then wanted to die in the next movie. 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:37.679 And it wasn't it wasn't the decapitation switch up that got me, it was actually the fact that we cut to, you know, Michael in the paramedic suit or whatever, just like walking or whatever he was doing, just walking through where all the cops are and stuff, just casually, I think still with a knife in his hand, from what I saw. 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:45.679 And I was like, okay, well, that's the one that got me because this guy is just casually walking through the crowds, like he's just like no one knows that he's there. 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.320 So that means that Michael Myers has a face card. 00:36:50.480 --> 00:37:05.760 He is not so grotesque and gruesome enough with the eye

swelling from the original movie, or however he has groomed himself over the years for anyone to be outwardly concerned by his at least neck up appearance underneath that paramedic garb. 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:14.559 I mean, after all of the stuff that he goes through in each movie, he probably has to take like a nice vacation, do some day spas, some treatments, you know. 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.480 Do you think he does face masks? 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.440 Absolutely. 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:18.719 He's the man of masks. 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:23.119 I wonder if like he has like a model face that would be like an Abercrombie or something like that. 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:25.519 Imagine if he was just like really good looking. 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.159 In the original Halloween, he was really good looking. 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:33.280 We just when we see him, he has a swollen eye from having the finger poked into him. 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:41.280 But also, there is a a lot happening right now with how good looking he is in the Halloween video game. 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:47.440 Because he has by John Carpenter's design, he ha he's supposed to look cherubic and angelic in a way. 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:54.400 That's the that's the point that this perfect looking person could be so evil. 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.880 But in the video game, his face is blurred, so you can't actually see what he looks like. 00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.960 But of course, people got around that and they think he's really hot. 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.239 They've also modded him to not have a shirt and they still think he's hot. 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:09.119 That's true. 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:09.920 That's true. 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.239 Yeah, but yeah, I'm with you on the paramedic. 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:13.280 It's a bit unfortunate. 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:21.440 Now, I mean, Lori, however, I was floored by I think everyone was at the time, no? 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.639 No, I mean, hello, what is Halloween without Lori? 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:26.559 I certainly wasn't prepared for that. 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.719 I didn't know the context, though, of course. 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.159 The Chris had mentioned that. 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:37.119 So it gives me a little bit more like comfort and solace that it was her decision and she wanted out on this franchise. 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.599 God knows I don't blame her, even though she came back. 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:41.119 Anyways, but whatever. 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:42.480 They always come back. 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:48.800 I just feel like damn, what what do I even know to expect now? 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:54.079 That was a massive curveball, a huge curveball that I didn't see coming. 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.199 I will say, like, she gave she gave it her all, you know, she put in that effort. 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.719 I commend her for being resilient. 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:12.159 I think that it was unfortunate, but I could only imagine how people must have felt when this came out and they saw that happen without the context. 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:13.840 Maybe they didn't know at the time, right? 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:19.280 I can tell you when I first saw this, that was the sh most shocking kill for sure. 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.840 Like I just never thought that that would happen. 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:29.440 Yeah, I remember vividly watching this in theaters and being so upset and so shocked and so mad at the time. 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.840 I know I was talking about, how are you taking this so seriously? 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.559 Also, I was 12, so fucking kick rocks. 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:45.760 I was so upset when Lori died, and then I had a really time hard a really hard time after that caring about any of the people in the house. 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:55.840 So even our final girl that we get in this movie, I could never really latch on to because I was still emotionally reeling from Lori's death. 00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:02.960 But you get that on the rewatch, I think, and on the few rewatches after where like you've you've kind of like distance yourself from the pain. 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:03.920 That's for sure. 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:04.719 Yeah. 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:11.440 I mean, it helps now having you know Halloween 2018 and the David Sherry Green trilogy and and knowing that she gets her lick back. 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:12.559 We were fine. 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:14.320 I've healed, I've moved on. 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:15.840 It's never really over. 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:23.119 It's never, I mean, watching it back, it's still kind of like every time I even though I know it's coming, I'm still like, oh my god, I can't believe it's gonna happen. 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:33.920 There was something that I had said in the watch-along that I feel like really resonated with the sentiment, and both from like myself, but also what I would imagine you guys must have experienced. 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.480 And it was The Last of Us Part Two. 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.760 If you haven't played this game, pause the show, play the game. 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:47.360 But the Last of Us Part Two, when you're playing the game, a major, major character dies very early on in the game. 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:51.599 And the same you see it in the show as well, if you've watched season two, like huge. 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:56.239 And that was like a deal breaker for a lot of people. 00:40:56.559 --> 00:41:02.400 I think it's a choice that's pretty bold and it's definitely a big swing. 00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.599 It could ruin you or it could actually be helpful. 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.239 I think in The Last of Us Part Two, it was successful, actually. 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:16.880 And in this one, again, because it's not a serious film, I feel like that's why it's probably wasn't

everybody's cup of tea, just in general, for that kind of choice. 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:26.480 But I I'm with you that I could see how if I was a little bit more invested in Lori because I've watched all these movies growing up and all of that, I would be freaking furious. 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.480 Luckily for me though, since I haven't, I just like was like, oh shit. 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.639 I even I still felt like what? 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.119 Like kind of hurt by this, but I was still open to see where this was gonna go. 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.679 I just was like, wait a minute, we still have an hour and a half left. 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:40.960 Think about this, right? 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.480 You got through Halloween one, Halloween two, no Lori for Halloween four, five, six. 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.599 She is allegedly dead in part four. 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.400 Then we finally get our girl back in H2O, and she overcomes so much. 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:55.599 She's so traumatized. 00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:10.000 And it's not just the literal death of Lori Strode that really hurts in the beginning of this movie, it is the death who she could have been, and the absolute robbery that we've had of her victory, seeing her relegated to a sanitarium just like her brother. 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.760 Also, think about this, right? 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:25.360 Like it's the last movie before we get into the Rob Zombie Halloween, and then we get kind of the like reboot type scenario with the new the newer Halloweens of the Halloween ends trilogy and all that. 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:36.800 And so when you think about that, technically there hasn't been an there hasn't been a uh a Halloween that moves on from Lori Strode because Rob Zombies brings back Lori Strode as a character. 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:42.159 Lori Strode comes back in the new Halloween trilogy, the latest Halloween trilogy. 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:46.719 So technically, we don't know if the franchise can go on without Lori Strode. 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:47.440 We haven't seen it. 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.000 We'll see what happens as they decide what they're gonna do. 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:59.920 Because remember, we did have a TV show for Halloween that was in development and they scrapped the plans and all eyes are on, I believe, 2028 when we'll have a milestone anniversary for the film. 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:06.079 With all the success of these recent shows, I feel like somebody has to be like, yes, we gotta figure something out for Halloween for sure. 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.599 They changed their minds and hopefully they change it back. 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:16.320 Because listen, if we can get a Paddenfield Crystal Lake experience, I'd be super fucking down for that. 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:17.440 Be amazing. 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:20.400 All right, but listen, the tripod kill. 00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.400 My favorite fucking death in this movie, and it's very personal for me. 00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:26.320 Yeah, let's talk about it. 00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:45.199 I have used tripods for so much of my life, having fucking worked in media production, and I specifically remember, and this is like one of the little things that brought me joy, seeing that because my mom had a photo camera tripod when we'd like put the camera on the yard that had like the spiky little feet at the bottom. 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:48.719 And I always remember being, why the fuck does this why is this a thing? 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:50.480 Like this feels dangerous. 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:54.559 So seeing that and being validated in that in the 2002 film, incredible. 00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:09.840 Every single time that I had to carry a tripod, I'd always be reminded of the Movie because seeing that sharp pointy tip go into Charlie's neck, yeah, 10 out of 10. 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:21.280 The way that they filmed it, the way that they used the reality show premise in a way that feels specific to the movie and used it against, like, the you know, Michael just using the tools that he has around him. 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:22.159 It just great. 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:23.360 It was a great kill. 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.360 An innovator, truly. 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:35.599 Also, this kill in particular, being that we get to see it from the camera's perspective, makes me want a found footage installment of Halloween even more. 00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.840 Yeah, like a true, fully found footage film. 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.159 That would be insane. 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:43.039 Insane. 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:44.559 Who would be really good for that? 00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:44.880 Dang. 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.719 Would it be like Rob Savage or something? 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.079 I gotta think on that one. 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:48.800 That would be fun. 00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:53.679 But honestly, Charlie was also just like, well, I kind of feel this way about a lot of the characters. 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.480 Charlie was kind of annoying in that sense. 00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:03.679 There's also, well, I'm gonna skip ahead a moment and talk about Nora because everyone in the cast is kind of funny. 00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.039 I'm not like insanely invested about anybody in particular. 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:15.760 Tyra Banks, though, really thought that this was gonna be her golden light, you know, and her time to shine in a new capacity, like Brandy. 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.079 And I still know what you did last summer. 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.639 And sadly, we didn't even see that kill. 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.400 I feel like Tyra Banks deserved a little bit more, you know, in that department. 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.159 You know, like we get a we should have got a much more elaborate kill scene. 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:37.440 Yeah, that definitely feels oddly specific to leave out,

especially because of what we see of her body strung up when we eventually stumble upon it later. 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.760 It's like, damn, she probably went down fighting. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:47.280 I will I would like to think that she wasn't oblivious as she was when she was making her drink and Charlie was being murked on the cameras. 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:48.639 You never know though. 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.719 But it was, yeah, the bot like her body found hanging from the ceiling with blood all over. 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:53.519 I mean, come on. 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:55.840 There was definitely something to see there for sure. 00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.079 I also really loved when Rudy gets pinned to the door. 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:04.480 It's super exaggerated, but multiple knives pinning to the door and like just coming off of Bing. 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.599 So I don't know if you know, but I finally played the Halloween game. 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.960 So like being able to pin people to the walls and stuff. 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.360 Yeah. 00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:12.159 Amazing. 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:13.760 Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:15.039 So you gotta love those moments. 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:15.840 Oh, definitely. 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:16.960 So satisfying. 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:25.679 Also, though, the other really big kill, we have Katie Sackoff's character Jen getting decapitated at the top of the stairs. 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:35.199 One plain knife swipe, and that's the moment because they've all now realized that Freddie is dressing up as Michael and the whole thing is a sham. 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:40.320 But this is the moment that the rest of them figure out that Michael's actually in the house. 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:41.360 What a moment. 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.119 The dummy head looks incredible. 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.960 And I mentioned this during the watch-along. 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.320 I'll mention it again now. 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:56.639 If you have not watched Katie Sakhoff's reaction video while watching Halloween Resurrection for the first time since she made it, you're missing out on your life. 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:57.760 She is hilarious. 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.719 She gives so much behind-the-scenes knowledge and information. 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:02.719 I think she even tried to keep her head. 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:03.679 Oh, that's awesome. 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.639 She had like hilarious commentary on the entire thing. 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.559 So I'll drop a link in this episode for it. 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:10.079 That's such a good idea. 00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.119 If you're ever in a horror movie and you die by decapitation, find a way to keep your head. 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.039 That's such a great idea. 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.480 Keep the head. 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:19.760 That's so sick. 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:25.360 No, listen, this decapitation is a hard one for them to explain away. 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:25.760 Okay. 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:34.400 This is one where if they found a way to retcon this decapitation, that would be ridiculous to another degree. 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:39.519 I was really surprised by this one, and I agree that the effects were great. 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.199 For the time, hell yeah. 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:42.800 That's a cool freaking head. 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:43.440 100%. 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:50.880 There's one that I think, I don't know, maybe some people will like and not like, but it's when Jim's head gets crushed by Michael's bare hands. 00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:52.719 And here's the thing with why I like it. 00:47:52.880 --> 00:48:12.159 One, technically, it's probably one of the more brutal kills in the movie, but it's it's the one that this film displays Michael's physical strength, like the ability to overpower somebody and just how disturbing it it is and how effortlessly he just overpowers someone and just crushes somebody's head like that. 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:18.960 Yeah, it's also very Halloween four when he crushes essentially Brady's head. 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:32.559 But any moment that we get just the power of Michael's hands, it goes enough to show you and pretty much remove any of the fucking plausible deniability when we think about like how much force it can take to pin somebody up with just a knife. 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.159 Those are the little fun moments where it's like, oh, this is a monster. 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.159 Is the monster in man form? 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:53.760 I will say the one thing that I feel like I would praise the most in this movie is literally the ability to bring this Myers house to life and the atmospheric design of this movie. 00:48:54.000 --> 00:49:04.639 I think there's clearly an effort to make the location feel like a decaying piece of Halloween history rather than just another generic house where teenagers get murdered. 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:12.480 I think it was a really awesome choice to bring us back to the Myers house, but bring us to a house that is basically condemned. 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:17.280 Like no one has been living in it, so we think, and all of this stuff, right? 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:27.440 And I think the irony is that the movie's most distinctive technical idea, the the live internet broadcast, I think also creates one of its biggest weakest weaknesses, but that's no neither here nor there. 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.280 But I think just the look of the set was fantastic. 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:45.679 It really was, and again, I'm just so thrilled that we've gotten so much closer to the original Myers House design and construction versus like the gothic cathedral style house that we got, even just like a movie or two before. 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:53.440 I love the way this house looks, especially well, I mean it does

go a little crazy when it gets into like a sewer. 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.000 Like the fact that next to an underground tunnel, okay, Michael. 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:01.039 Is that well, they should have tied this into the new trilogy, right? 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:04.159 Like they should have because he, you know, he lives in the sewers and stuff, right? 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.599 He's got his little hideout in the sewers, it should have connected right to the Myers house. 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:14.960 Who's to say that the sewers wasn't a little throwback to Halloween 6 and Halloween insurrection? 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.440 Now that we're thinking of it, it probably is, you know? 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.320 It's like the teenage mutant ninja Michael Myers. 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:25.679 One of the things I love most though, and I mentioned earlier, I really want to found footage Halloween. 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:31.039 I love the way this movie mixes its conventional footage. 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:41.920 Like we have this traditional like narrative style, but then the webcast and actually seeing like seeing things happen from the perspective of the cameras in the house. 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.920 There are points where we use that even to transition between locations. 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:52.320 So from the Myers house to the party where Deckard is watching, and we actually just get to see what the feed looks like. 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:54.559 I absolutely love that. 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.639 It's it's an honestly an incredible feat. 00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.800 I own a physical version of this movie on the DVD feature. 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:09.599 There is the outtaker essentially like a 40-minute compilation of footage that was shot from those cameras that were actually working on the set. 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.320 So imagine watching this movie just completely from the perspective of the cameras. 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:24.719 It inspires me to think of for me, I'm just really impressed by the attention to detail to bring this like 2000s era to life. 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:31.920 Like again, I think sometimes the choice to keep the time period a little ambiguous makes sense. 00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:38.880 But there's the little things that really reminded me, like, okay, this is early 2000s, 2002, you know, specifically. 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:49.760 Some of the things that I had thought of in the moment with the camera and just the presentation of the reality show and the way that Buster Rhymes talks and stuff. 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.960 It reminded me of MTV's Bands in a Bubble. 00:51:53.119 --> 00:52:04.400 This was later on, this was 2007, but Cartel was being watched in this bubble at 24-7, 365, or you know, whatever, until they finished this album. 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.199 Of course, Big Brother, I've never seen it, but I've heard of it, right? 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.599 It's similar premises, and I think that that's fun. 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:20.639 But it's also, like we said earlier, the chat room culture and showing that, the old phones, the idea of like the costume party and what they're wearing in the in terms of costumes at the party. 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.719 It's just all of it seems so fun. 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.440 It seems so like, yes, I know what this is. 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:31.679 It's a time capsule, I can go back into that era so easily, both from the aesthetics of the set designs as well. 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.280 Like we were talking about the house. 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:37.039 It's so starkly different than the house where the Halloween party's at, right? 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:42.400 Again, it feels very rich, feels like there's a lavish little library that's massive. 00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.000 But I again, it's the little details that I found it to be so fun. 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:53.119 I think that those things usually get sacrificed for like a quick and easy horror franchise, right? 00:52:53.360 --> 00:53:01.039 But I really enjoyed that I could not only enjoy the kills and everything else and those kinds of practical effects, but the other details too. 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:01.760 Yeah. 00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:06.880 Speaking of that office though, why was this like monitor so far away from the desk? 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:07.760 It just seemed weird. 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:11.519 I had does anyone have a setup like that where your monitor is like across the room? 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.239 Richer people who use TVs as their screen. 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:16.719 Absolutely. 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:18.400 It just feels awkward, you know? 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:19.679 Really good eyesight. 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:20.079 Yeah. 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:20.960 Who knows? 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:25.599 Well, they probably have the display settings set in such a way that uh you can see everything pretty clearly. 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:47.840 Here's the reality: the reason why that monitor was so large is because that person was clearly not doing anything fucking scandalous or sketchy, or had not yet realized the depths of depravity that could exist on the internet because not only is it on a wall so large, it's also the wall that you see when you enter the room. 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.360 So there's no hiding anything. 00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.840 If you do anything in that browser, it is visible to the rest of the house. 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:54.719 That's true. 00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:56.000 Must be nice. 00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:57.039 That's crazy. 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.960 I think the opening of the movie was a standout for me. 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:18.719 I think just having Jamie Lee Curtis kind of bringing the emotional weight of Lori Strode's return into the movie, and you know, seeing her like in basically the psych ward almost, and she's just maybe at first gone mad dealing with all of

this, and she's not doing okay. 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:30.880 But nonetheless, Lori, you know, we see that she's getting this medication, and then we find out that she's not taking the medication, and then she's just such a badass, you know, she's just ready at all times. 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.719 Like she just knew that Michael was coming, and she was ready. 00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:36.079 You can't take her down. 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.519 Well, I guess you can, but not yeah, but you know what I mean. 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:41.519 With honor, she went down with honor. 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:42.320 100%. 00:54:42.800 --> 00:55:02.880 The thing that kills me is this is exactly why it hurts so much that in the 2018 reboot we robbed so much history from Lori because her being committed or paranoid based on what she experienced in the last movie and the movie before that, etc., that all makes sense. 00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:16.880 But the fact that we got Terminator style Lori in Halloween 2018 based solely off of the lore of Halloween 1978, I think it it just hurts. 00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.440 I do love that she set a trap for him. 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.519 I do love that she played him like a fiddle. 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:27.840 It's really cool to see it her hearken back to okay, Michael spending years confined staring out the window. 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:33.199 But what kills me and where this scene loses me, it lost me then, it loses me now. 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:41.519 Michael breaks into her room violently, follows her onto the rooftop, and she still feels the need to check whether she has the right person. 00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:42.800 I assure you, ma'am. 00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:49.840 Like in Halloween H2O, you were the aggressor who stole the ambulance and drove off. 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.719 We see that there's plausible deniability here. 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.440 There'd be an opportunity for it to not be the right person. 00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.840 But this man was literally chasing you. 00:55:58.079 --> 00:55:59.679 This man was literally chasing you. 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:01.360 I promise you, you have the right guy. 00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:02.800 We didn't need to unmask him. 00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:04.880 Also, how does she know what he looks like? 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:05.360 Right. 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:06.400 Even if you did. 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:07.360 That's so true. 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.960 She remembers him from 1978, but she didn't see him unmasked in H2O. 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:13.840 That is true. 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.280 You broke my brain with that one. 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:15.840 But you know what? 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:16.639 Here's what I'll say. 00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:18.320 We're just here to have a good time, you know? 00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.440 Don't make me think too much on it, or I'm gonna take back my slash. 00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:34.400 The other thing that I had a lot of fun with is the entire assembly of people watching the show from that Halloween party, particularly because every single time we cut back to it, there's more and more people there. 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.719 I love this part of the movie. 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:44.239 I mean, real murders are happening inside of production, and that production is already lying to the audience, so there's a lot of layers here. 00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:58.880 The fact that the participants have a reason to distrust what's happening just reinforces why nobody watching it thinks it's real, and that's where it really harkens back to the story's intention to be like an inversion of War of the Worlds. 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:03.679 In War of the Worlds, real people listen to a fake thing and thought it was real. 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.760 And in this, people are watching a real thing, assuming that it's fake. 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.320 Because of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:17.119 Could you imagine making Halloween resurrection now with deep fake technology and AI? 00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:22.400 Nobody would assume that any of it's real, like you wouldn't even have Deckard probably thinking that it's real. 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:29.199 And I love this so much because there's so much misunderstanding, and it becomes a communal experience. 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:33.280 It really just goes to show like where we are now of oh no, totally fake. 00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:34.880 She's such a good actress, etc. 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:36.320 Yeah, it's terrifying. 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:53.440 That moment, too, in the movie, or the that part of the movie, it's also leads to the whole the whole thing where Sarah's communicating with Deckard through text messaging or whatever, and like the and it it was just kind of a cool play within the movie. 00:57:53.679 --> 00:58:08.400 An online friend watching the broadcast who helps her figure out like where Michael is and how to avoid him through texting, I think was a really fun addition to the movie and and added into the theme, which I think was really creative. 00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:14.079 I really liked how that felt almost like we were in a video game to an extent. 00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:20.639 Like Deckard was a player, and every decision that he made impacted then the video game as well. 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:25.840 I that's at least how I was interpreting it, or just kind of like what it reminded me of. 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:30.079 Again, I go back to it's so similar to reality TV shows even now. 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:42.559 I mean, there's plenty of reality TV shows where you're prompted to vote on certain things, who gets eliminated, who doesn't, and you have control over what happens in these environments, and that's also very scary. 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.760 Binks, it's also the Hunger Games of the Halloween franchise. 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:48.559 Oh, yes,

yes, absolutely. 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:57.199 Could you imagine if like a live streamer, like you can obviously like give them bits or whatever the hell, give them follows, etc. 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:06.639 Imagine remaking this now centered on Twitch, or you could have some kind of sponsorship deal where you actually get a package sent in like the Hunger Games. 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.199 I feel like this movie's ripe for remaking. 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:10.000 That's just me. 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:13.039 Yeah, it definitely could be get a fresh take on it. 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:14.719 Wow, now you've got me thinking. 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:23.440 If we do that, I want Freddie to come back because every moment with him was just show stealing, show stopping. 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:33.519 First, when we have the reveal that there are two Michaels because we have Freddie walking through the house, then real Michael walking behind him, him noticing that he's there. 00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:34.639 So good. 00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:43.519 For whatever reason, Michael deciding he's just gonna let that one slide also and just walk away was amazing, absolutely priceless. 00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:48.159 Michael has never been reprimanded at work, so it was very alarming to him. 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:49.599 Yeah, he's like, what is this? 00:59:50.000 --> 01:00:04.480 But that moment in the movie is filled with such audacity and absurdity, and it makes it even better the fact that we establish Freddie's interest in martial arts and kung fu ahead of time, and then he fucking roundhouse kicks Michael out of the window. 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.320 I know that this is a controversial moment because people hate it. 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:16.960 People say you should not be able to roundhouse kick Michael between this and being electrocuted in the balls, it kind of weakens Michael. 01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.360 He's the boogeyman, he shouldn't go down like this. 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:21.519 I think Michael can be a good sport about it. 01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:31.199 I get both sides of that, but I also think that this whole Freddie Harris versus Michael Myers thing is one of the scenes that defines the movie's reputation for better or for worse. 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.280 I think I have a lot of fun with this whole concept. 01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.440 Listen, I wanted to be very clear. 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:44.880 If it was not for Freddie, I really feel like I wouldn't have liked this movie as much as I did. 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:46.719 He is the comedic relief. 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:48.800 His one-liners are hilarious. 01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:49.280 Right. 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:53.920 I mean, he is the literal catalyst to the situation and the environment itself. 01:00:54.159 --> 01:01:00.320 And there needs to be a level of like grandiose, like performative nature to make it successful. 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.920 He's literally a TV host who's very self-centered, you know, just in it for himself. 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:11.199 You need that kind of charismatic energy to sell it, in my opinion. 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:20.559 And the kung fu of it all, I think, is also hilarious because it's it's like the quirk to this very charismatic, self-centered person. 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:26.079 Even the most like cynical, worst kinds of people have the weirdest little quirks to them. 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:28.719 And I find that to be like disarming. 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:30.559 I thought it was hilarious. 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:37.599 I was ready at any point in time for this kung fu that we had been building up to actually go into effect. 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:48.000 And at the end of the day, dude, I understand Michael Myers is like this unstoppable force and literally a shape, ghost, whatever he is. 01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:49.119 I don't really know anymore. 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.119 But the point is that we would not have a movie if you couldn't at least beat his ass a little bit. 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:54.559 We gotta beat his ass a little bit. 01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:55.360 Like, what? 01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:56.239 This is crazy. 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:57.119 I liked it. 01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.320 I thought it was fun. 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.400 I don't, I'm not mad at the fact that he was able to roundhouse kick Michael Myers. 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:21.360 I also think it's kind of like, I don't know, this kind of like fun connection because I know Buster Rhyme's not officially a member of Wu Tang or anything, but a frequent collaborator with Wu Tang, and Wu Tang was famously like always into like old Kung Fu movies and stuff, and they brought a lot of that vibe into you know some of their music and stuff. 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:25.760 So I just think little callbacks to that kind of stuff, little nods to fans, things like that. 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.199 I thought it was a fun time. 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:28.239 I liked it. 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:29.039 Yeah. 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:35.679 And I think it's just such a testament to his character overall, being to you mentioned that he's the catalyst for all of this. 01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.880 He is the one who created the situation that endangers everyone. 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:44.239 And I appreciate the redemption of him being instrumental and at least Sarah surviving it. 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:56.960 He has such comedic confidence, and I I think it is this movie's success hinges upon his ability to spark a little joy and create a little absurdity. 01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:10.480 I think for all of that, for as funny as he is, for sure, I think where he ends up as a character is actually one of the more serious parts in the movie, and it's more of like a squint just right and you'll see it. 01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:18.000 But there's a lot of tension between his role as an exploitative producer and then his eventual role

helping Sarah. 01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:24.079 And at the end, he gives this final speech that condemns the very exploitation that he helped create. 01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:28.559 So there's a lot of remorse there, and there's some regret there, clearly. 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:34.480 And I think it's interesting that he's able to cast that light, but he does make that remorse very clear. 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:52.079 And I also think like there is a good balance between you know Buster Himes as Freddy and Sarah as a character because I think her vulnerability contrasts nicely with Freddie's kind of showmanship in the movie and her communication with like the online friend and the internet concept. 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:53.440 It helped build suspense. 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.159 I don't super love Sarah. 01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.639 Like she's fine, I'm glad she survives. 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:04.480 But this is a movie I have always felt where Jen should have been the final girl and not Sarah. 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:15.840 I think it would have been more interesting that way because what we get from Sarah is just I guess she's a spiritual successor to Lori, but she doesn't feel super compelling, for at least for me. 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:23.920 Yeah, we spoke a little bit about that in terms of some of her decisions that she made seemed a little reckless. 01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:30.400 And I guess we could argue you're panicked, you're freaking out, you've never been put in this situation, sure. 01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.159 But at some point you need to like turn on the brain. 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:35.280 You need to survive. 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:39.840 And I don't know if I necessarily felt that entirely about her. 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:47.039 I will say the thing about Jen, though, that sells it and has me like kind of agreeing with you, Chris. 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:51.440 And I'm sure we did talk about this during the watch long, was it's really her attitude. 01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:56.159 Like her personality is very likable, and you can gravitate towards it because she's a jokester. 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.079 She's got a little bit of spunk to her. 01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:08.559 So I think that charisma can help substitute maybe for like, all right, if I were looking at a character trait here, we've got a charisma's very maxed out. 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:17.760 Survival skills seem like they maybe would be a little bit at the medium side, but overall we have a more robust character here where I'm willing to start off with her. 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.400 Whereas maybe Sarah doesn't necessarily have every trait maxed out. 01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.920 Let's just take a second and look back at the final girls of the franchise so far. 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.480 We have Lori Schrode in Halloween one and two. 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:29.199 That's it. 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.559 Halloween four, we have Rachel and Jamie. 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:43.920 And Rachel, in comparison to some of the other teenage girls in the movie, is more mild, a little bit more timid, very responsible, etc. 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:54.480 And part five, we have Tina, who is the free spirit, almost like denies her intuition because she wants to be a little less responsible. 01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.280 Rachel ends up dying, so we don't have her very long. 01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.039 But Tina also doesn't survive. 01:05:59.199 --> 01:05:59.760 Tina doesn't. 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.400 Doesn't make it in Halloween six. 01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:09.760 We have another, again, a mother figure who is very Lori Strode coated, very responsible, very meek. 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.679 Again, more of a quiet person. 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:24.960 Up until this point, after you know, until we got Laurie Strode again in H2O, we don't have anyone who's a final girl who really breaks the mold of who Laurie Strode was in 1978. 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:27.280 Everything just points back to her. 01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:32.079 And Jen would have been such a refreshing moment to give us what we almost had with Tina. 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:35.360 It was interesting to completely abandon Lori's son. 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.760 Like we get that character in H2O, and then we don't mention that character again. 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.719 Well, no, we do have a photo of him in the room. 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:43.760 We sure do. 01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.800 I said, that's the man right there, Josh Hartnett. 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:47.519 Hot as hell. 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:56.559 I will say that despite that though, he wasn't exactly the most pleasant in H2O, so I'm not exactly too mad about that. 01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:58.159 And let's be also honest. 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.719 At the end of the day, Lori Shroud was leaving. 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:02.400 So put her son in the mix. 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:04.320 What he what would he have actually done? 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.320 Didn't seem like a very big go-getter, you know, like that's true. 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:10.320 Yeah. 01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:16.239 I don't know if you could really incorporate him into the story of this movie per se, but it was just always interesting. 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.159 You have such a central character piece and then all of a sudden disappeared, no mention. 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.480 Not for anything, but Josh Harden had a he had a very busy string of years. 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:32.239 And that year, instead of doing Halloween resurrection, he chose to do another rom-com endeavor, we could argue. 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.079 40 days and 40 nights. 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:35.119 That's a choice. 01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:36.400 That's polarizing. 01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:41.679 He would have either been lollygagging around with Michael Myers or well, lollygagging. 01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:44.000 We'll leave it at

that if you haven't seen that movie. 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:45.599 Quite something. 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:47.440 Yeah, busy schedule for sure. 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:49.039 Busy schedule. 01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.280 Where do we feel like Michael Myers lands from this movie? 01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:57.039 Like, are we thinking like from a character standpoint to the mask? 01:07:57.119 --> 01:07:58.880 Where are you putting this, Michael Myers? 01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:01.039 Upper 50% for me. 01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:01.519 Yeah. 01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:05.199 I can't contribute too much until I've actually watched all of these movies. 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.320 But I will say that I kind of dug his look. 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:12.559 I thought he was quite the Kool-Aid man when he's like busting through walls and shit. 01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:13.920 I'm like, okay, I forgot. 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:14.480 That's right. 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:19.840 He actually has insane strength for some frickin' reason, unknown to me. 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:23.039 But I feel like the design and everything's pretty good. 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:28.640 I mean, we had been looking at some other Michael Myers looks from movies that I haven't seen yet. 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.720 And in comparison, boy, wow, those are something. 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:35.439 There's definitely been some interesting looks for sure. 01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:38.960 But yeah, I think this Michael Myers was pretty solid for sure. 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:43.039 I don't know where I'd put like from a mask standpoint, maybe in the middle of the road. 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.800 He's above four, he's above five, he's above six for me. 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:49.199 He's above honestly, even H2O. 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:50.800 H2O was goofy. 01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:52.399 He still looked too goofy. 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:52.720 Yeah. 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:57.439 I'd go Halloween, Halloween 2018, Halloween 2, Halloween Kills. 01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.680 And then Halloween ends, then Resurrection. 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:02.319 Okay. 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:03.520 So that's the middle end. 01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:05.840 Okay, we need a whole separate episode for this. 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:07.840 We need it, we need a separate episode for this. 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:09.680 I also feel like I'm listening to Star Wars. 01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:10.479 I don't know the names. 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:19.279 So you just rattled off all kinds of Halloween names, and I was trying to make sense of which one I was actually thinking of, like what Michael Myers I was imagining in my brain. 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:21.359 Boy, there's so many of them, man. 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:22.239 It's crazy. 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:23.760 13, I know, or right? 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.319 14, something like that, but it's still feels like a lot. 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:29.199 Then you also have the different mask variants within each movie. 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:30.720 So we need a separate episode for it. 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.319 There's masks within masks. 01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.199 Not like canonically, but production-wise, yeah. 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:36.800 We all wear masks. 01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:38.000 This is too much. 01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:44.319 I think the toughest thing for me in this movie will always be Lori Strode going down. 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.159 That's just always a tough one for me. 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:47.520 Not that it ruins the movie. 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:49.840 I think it's a very emotional impact of the movie. 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:55.279 I think it probably did a huge wow factor for a lot of fans when first watching this movie. 01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:57.279 So I respect what it did. 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:02.880 But if I had to pull something out that I just didn't have fun with, it was probably that. 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:04.159 I I agree. 01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.640 The objective worst part of this movie. 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.680 Objectively speaking, you don't get much lower than that. 01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:14.319 And I still think Trick-O-Treat motherfucker looking a little crispy-fried motherfucker. 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.079 Or both moments are 10 times better than Lori dying. 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:19.760 It is such a bummer of a time. 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:28.319 I think the third worst part is I remember being so excited watching this in the theater, seeing Michael open his eyes at the end of the movie, and then we never got another continuation of it. 01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.439 Rob Zombies is shortly thereafter, I guess. 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.199 But we didn't continue this story. 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:37.760 So I was so excited, thinking like, oh my gosh, I can't wait to see what happens next. 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:45.279 And then all of a sudden, five years later, I'm in the theater excited to go see Halloween, and then oh, that's what it was. 01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.560 Listen, I feel like we talked about it already. 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:59.039 I will make amends with it in terms of Lori's decision making specifically, and those last final moments of hers, and just like the switch roo of it all. 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.600 Because you guys made me think that, yeah, you're right. 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:07.119 It what alternative would have been better, you know, like zombie Michael, that would have been ridiculous. 01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:08.720 So that's fine. 01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:19.680 I just feel suddenly so protective of Lori in a sense after watching this, because it's like, man, I I don't want it to make it seem that she's an idiot. 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:20.560 You know what I mean? 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:24.239 Like, how could she have not realized that she wasn't killing the right person? 01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:26.800 But then even up in the rooftop, right?

01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:29.920 Like she had actually trapped him. 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:37.119 Like there was a moment where maybe you actually could have won, or it felt that way, at least to me, and then it didn't actually end up happening. 01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:42.560 It's just like, uh, it's frustrating, but we're 15 minutes into the beginning of the movie. 01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.239 Like, of course that's not gonna be the case. 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:48.880 And how many, like, oh, we killed him, but I guess we didn't kill him. 01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:50.560 Things are we're gonna do in one film. 01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:54.479 I understand, but you can't help but feel frustrated and protective over Lori. 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:57.199 That's an icon, but oh well, it is what it is. 01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:11.520 Is there any room there for us to have still gotten the mo opening that we got, but she does kill him, and then when his body is carted off and buried, then we somehow get the magical dog piss or the electricity. 01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:18.079 I feel like they would have just needed like the opening just to explain why he still has a head, and then he can get resurrected later. 01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:18.560 Yeah. 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:20.319 What a fucking bonker. 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:23.439 Just somebody needs to re-write that fanfiction and just see how it plays out. 01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:24.319 Oh my gosh. 01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:33.600 But regardless of how I feel for uh the opportunities the opening of this movie provides, this is still so much fun to watch. 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:37.680 I watch it every single year and I watch it while being engaged. 01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:48.880 I watch it happily, I watch it with enthusiasm, and I cannot wait to meet more people who haven't seen Halloween Resurrection so I can re-experience what I did experience with Binks. 01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:50.319 That was a magical time. 01:12:50.560 --> 01:13:04.960 Like I said, I mean, I really recommend watching these movies with somebody because I feel like that's when you get the most commentary and joy and just kind of let loose with them with the insane antics that happen. 01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:15.760 And granted, if we were to rank between the three major franchises, right, who has the craziest, silliest ones, Halloween is last to me, I think. 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:28.000 And I haven't even seen a lot of them, but just from the ones I've seen, I can confidently say that Nightmare on Elm Street is through the roof in terms of silly bonkerness, but that's because he is like that, right? 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:28.960 Freddie's like that. 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:35.520 But this one is a little bit more on the tame side, but still things to enjoy and laugh about and be like, oh shit, what's gonna happen next? 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:36.880 And the commentary's gold. 01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.840 So I absolutely would re-watch this. 01:13:40.079 -->

01:13:48.640 I really hope that I can like participate now in the memes and in the insider jokes and the cult of Buster Rhymes that we have in our listenership. 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:50.399 Yeah, a hundred percent. 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:58.239 I always have fun watching this one, but I always remember having a good time with this one, so it's always something I revisit at some point. 01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:03.359 Well, clearly we'll have to revisit it again in the near future, but for now, there you have it, folks. 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:06.640 Halloween Resurrection has earned a universal slash. 01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:14.399 Now, if you want to see how Binx reacted before she had any time to process any of this, our Halloween Resurrection watch along is available on Patreon. 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:23.520 It's her first viewing with both of us on camera, so you can watch along with us and catch every reaction as it happened, every moment of shock, joy, and what the fuck. 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:26.880 You can check that out at patreon.com slash hacker slash. 01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:28.560 And we also want to know what you think. 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:30.800 What did you think about Halloween Resurrection? 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:31.600 Did you hate it? 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.159 Or do you secretly enjoy it as much as I do? 01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:34.880 Let us know. 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.399 You can join in on the conversation in our Discord and on our subreddit. 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:42.319 You can find the links to both of those in our show notes for this episode. 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.079 Thanks for spending at least part of your spooky season with Hackerslash. 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:47.119 We'll see you next time, folks. 01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.720 And remember, never underestimate the effect of a poor diet. 01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.560 Happy fucking Halloween. 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:12.960 So naturally, when you have a found footage Halloween movie and you have the danger tament of it all, it does beg the question: what other horror reality shows could you conjure up? 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:14.960 I'm gonna say something insane. 01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.640 What if we had a horror dating show? 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:24.560 Okay, like Love is Blind or something like that. 01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:28.880 Or like Love Island was just about to say. 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:29.840 Exactly. 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.720 But couple up or cut up. 01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:33.680 Exactly. 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.880 You know, look listen, love is blind and you end up being blind. 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:37.600 I don't know. 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.720 I just I think it would be insane. 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:51.840 Imagine Freddie Krueger on the other side of the wall in Love is Blind, Macing it up to you, and then just like permeates through the wall or in your dreams that night. 01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:53.119 I I I would tune in. 01:15:53.359 --> 01:16:00.000 I think if we did that, we would need fame lesbian Elvira to be the host for sure. 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:05.279 Yes, I think at least Dracula macking it up about crossing oceans of time to find you. 01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:06.319 I think we need Tiffany. 01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:08.640 I think we bride Frankenstein. 01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:09.359 Okay. 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:10.159 Who else? 01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:11.760 Oh, we need Candyman. 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:13.199 Oh my god. 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:14.399 Well, his voice. 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:16.079 We also need Ghostface. 01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:20.399 Ghostface will probably text you and call you, but never actually live up to the plans. 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:20.960 Right. 01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:22.239 An actual ghosting. 01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:23.439 Oh, jeez. 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:25.920 He's gonna be the villain in the new season. 01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:26.560 Yeah. 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:27.279 Absolutely. 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:29.119 Prompting situationships. 01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:29.920 Ah, God. 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.560 Yeah, you gotta see which one would plan the best date. 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:38.000 My problem is that I can't imagine a lot of this though, because I I don't watch dating reality shows. 01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:41.279 I feel I can come up with like the people, but I don't know what the activities would be. 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:47.119 Listen, my experience here is one season of Love is Blind and one season of The Love Island. 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:52.319 I don't know any of the other shows, but what I've seen off of those two things, I'm envisioning something. 01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:53.119 I can see it. 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:56.000 With Love Island, they do like these challenges. 01:16:56.159 --> 01:17:05.600 So I'm imagining like these horror icons, you know, having to do the most insane gross challenges and then just like killing people because they just don't want to do them, you know. 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:10.079 Goodness, it would just go crazy real fast. 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:20.800 I just thought the a twist on like if we were to bring something like the amazing race, but actually make it like a final destination amazing race. 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:41.359 So like the contestants have to like do they have to race across the country and complete challenges while they're like faced off against these elaborate, like freak accidents, and like they receive clues about their own deaths and have to figure out the only way to advance is how to avoid those deaths, would be a wild twist on the amazing race. 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.680 Yeah, but you see, Michael Myers would never be able to get to the finish line. 01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:54.159 It would be more of like a it wouldn't even be like horror icons doing it, it would just be a a like a horror-themed version of the show. 01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:54.720 Right.

01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:59.760 Yeah Chris, you're about to tell me that Are you about to tell me that Michael Myers actually walks fast? 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:05.840 I want to remind you that this motherfucker drives and he stole enough cars to track down Lori in California. 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:06.960 Oh fair. 01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:08.560 Fair enough, fair enough. 01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:09.199 Yeah. 01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:16.319 One that could be really fun, and I don't have it like fully baked yet, but I love shows like Chopped and MasterChef. 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:22.239 So imagine like a Hell's Kitchen, but it's a cooking show with horror icons. 01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:28.800 Imagine Hannibal Lecter as the host, because I feel like it's unfair if he actually competes. 01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:31.439 I think we could do Annie Wilkes. 01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:33.039 I think she cooks in that movie. 01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:36.560 We can do Sebastian Stan's character from Fresh. 01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:37.600 Yeah, it's from Fresh. 01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:38.640 That's what I was gonna say. 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:38.880 Yep. 01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:39.600 Who else? 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:43.039 Um Ray Fines from Menu. 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:45.279 Dang Leatherface. 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.600 Oh, I think you got all of those. 01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:48.000 Yeah, yeah. 01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:50.560 But Hannibal Lecter would be, I agree that he would be the host for sure. 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:51.439 The host, yeah. 01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:53.920 But Leatherface, absolutely. 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:59.920 You said Leatherface, and can I just say I ended up watching for the first time the Matthew McConaughey? 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:00.960 Oh my god. 01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:01.279 Yeah. 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:02.960 Or Renee's all you're there. 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:03.279 Yeah. 01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:03.680 Guy. 01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:04.720 Unhinged. 01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:05.600 Unhinged. 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.399 Matthew McConaughey's best performance ever, I think. 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:09.600 Almost too good? 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:10.960 Question mark, question mark. 01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:12.479 Too good for that movie for sure. 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.720 Something's a little too a little too good there. 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:18.319 Also, Leatherface, the best leatherface I've ever seen. 01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:20.079 That's a diva right there. 01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.960 That leather face, listen, we stand. 01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:25.760 Dinner scene, incredible. 01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:33.119 Anyways, I say all that to say that you were talking about Leatherface being a participant of that show, and I want that specific leather face. 01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:38.159 I want her outfit, and I want everything about that diva on that specific reality show. 01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:39.279 That's insane. 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:40.319 Okay, hold on.

01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:41.600 There's something else here. 01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:42.880 It's at the tip of my tongue. 01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:48.479 We have Kyle Richards in the original Halloween, and then Halloween kills, Halloween ends. 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:49.039 Yeah. 01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:50.960 She's actually a real housewife. 01:19:51.119 --> 01:20:03.520 So what if we did have the real housewives of horror and you had Tiffany, Pamela Voorhees, Margaret White, Bride of Frankenstein, Samara Weaving's character from Ready Or Not. 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:06.720 Would it be fair to have no, because she's not married, right? 01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:09.199 The girl from You're Next, another one? 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:10.880 Wouldn't it be great? 01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:11.840 No, she's not married. 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:12.319 Damn. 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:13.520 Well, I mean, who knows? 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.479 Maybe I guess Pamela Voorhees now we know was married. 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:16.960 Oh wow. 01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:18.560 Jennifer Czech wasn't married. 01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:19.840 Margaret White was. 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:22.319 Bride was forced into it. 01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:22.720 Yeah. 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:24.880 There's gotta be some other wives that I'm missing here. 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:25.600 Let's see. 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:27.439 Um well you have Pearl. 01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:28.880 Oh, Pearl, yes. 01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:30.239 Pearl, you're right. 01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:32.720 I mean, Anna in possession is just kind of crazy. 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.279 I don't know how much she would actually contribute on that one. 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:36.960 Well, she can have a little cameo. 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:38.399 Morticia Adams. 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:40.159 Oh, good one. 01:20:40.399 --> 01:20:40.960 Oh my god. 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:44.000 And she should be like the main. 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:45.039 Oh my gosh. 01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:52.079 She is like maybe like the housewife from the previous season that was like top charting, was incredible. 01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:54.880 She finally comes back as the reboot comes in. 01:20:55.119 --> 01:21:01.279 It's like, oh my God, everyone's freaking out when she arrives on set because she's just like gonna cause a scene. 01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:02.479 I can see it now. 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:04.000 I really like this idea. 01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:12.960 There's also, I think, would be a fun trivia, a trivia show with Ghostface as the host, and it just, you know, who wants to be a final girl? 01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:15.279 Sean, that's a good one. 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:16.640 Trivia on everything. 01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:31.119 Well, it would have to be final girls that are contestants, and then they have to answer questions about like best survival tactics, love interest questions, you know, like, oh, that would be fun. 01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:32.479 There could be a twist. 01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:36.000 There could be like one contestant is secretly working with Ghostface. 01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:36.560 Yeah. 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.640 You know, may not be the only killer. 01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:39.199 Ooh. 01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:44.960 It sounds like this is what we have to do in our 10th anniversary season uh next year. 01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:59.119 Because for our 200th episode, we did do horror trivia where I got kidnapped and my co-host had to answer horror trivia and they let me die by Ghostface hands, and then Paris was revealed to be Ghostface. 01:21:59.439 --> 01:21:59.760 Yes. 01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:00.800 Yes, that is true. 01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:02.079 That is true. 01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:03.279 It was a fun episode. 01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:05.199 Okay, yeah, I do like that. 01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:07.600 I do oh, better start gearing up now. 01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:08.479 Uh oh.