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can have any offensive whne. 00:02:20 Speaker 1: Coaches you guys, but this has been my fifth office line. 00:02:22 Speaker 2: Okay, I ad meant I couldn't even add them up. How is Colin Bisill a little bit different than the guys you've had here before? What makes him unique? 00:02:31 Speaker 1: I would say, Karen uh I would say what makes some unique is just his passion for the game. You can tell that he's very intrigued with understanding officer line play, the offense as a whole. And I will also say that he really cares about how we see it as players, if that makes sense. 00:02:51 Speaker 3: So he'll he'll he'll ask you stuff about how you want to handle that. 00:02:53 Speaker 1: He'll ask what like, he'll like he has none negotiables like all coaches have. Of course, he'll also ask because he unders says that you know, like I've played in this system for a while, and like we signed some more events, Like he had Jermaine that you know, played with him in a similar system, so he understands that. And he always says, like he's never played in the NFL. He you know what I'm saying, he's coaching and he's teaching, you know, from his experience where he's learned as a coach, but as a player is different. So he asked for our input on on certain things. 00:03:22 Speaker 2: It seems like I've made sure to spend a lot of time because you guys can't do contact in and ots. 00:03:28 Speaker 3: That's all it meant to work. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: It seems like he's just a very detailed coach where he knows exactly what he wants from everybody in the spots and and there's a lot of teaching going on during a lot of these sessions. 00:03:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it helps a lot that Korin began his coaching career in the NFL under this system, being you know, with the Patriots. 00:03:46 Speaker 2: And being under Dante s exactly. 00:03:49 Speaker 1: So he he you know, was at the beginning of that you know offense coming into form, and I think he does a great job of translating this especially for young guys, and you know, Dave's and Cap like, they're great, but we have so many plays, so many nuances that we have to you know, be able to hear the call and replicate it and do our assignment. So I think he does a good job of breaking it down for the new guys and the young guys to make sure that everyone's on the same page. 00:04:17 Speaker 2: I want to attack two different parts of this. The first is the mental part. How much has he changed up the protection rules that you guys have in terms of passing guys off, handling butches? How much is that mental? Here are your rules based on formations different from what you did the last couple of years. 00:04:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few changes that we've made just based on like mic points and stuff like that, and then just what we call certain blocks of what we call certain sorts. But the meat and potatoes of it is just the same protection, Like we're going week sword, we're going to the like stuff like that. Like we're doing the same type of scheme, but he's changed the way we call certain things. 00:04:50 Speaker 2: How about technique from a physical standpoint, how is he teaching you guys to handle things any differently from a physical standpoint. 00:04:55 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:04:55 Speaker 1: In the run game, he teaches different techniques, likes some coaches teach your foot and then some teach like a almost like a rocker step on like inside zone and stuff like that, and he allows us to do both, like just based on the linebacker alignment and things like that. And then in the past game he wants us to set a little bit more vertical depending on whether where our responsibility is and who that rusher is. 00:05:21 Speaker 3: Do you like the changes? 00:05:23 Speaker 1: I like it, I think sometimes, especially when I when I look at my game and I watched the film, I see that I take a very similar set almost every pass play, unless it's like a quick protection. I want to I want to be better at having switch ups because when you're going against the elite guys, they can key in on that you're taking the same type of approach every rep. 00:05:45 Speaker 2: All right, final question talking about going against the elite guys. I know there's no contact in OTA, so you don't really feel for it yet, but Brian Burns tell me what it's like trying to block that guy. 00:05:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually I actually played Burns. 00:05:56 Speaker 2: I think it was two years ago. 00:05:59 Speaker 1: You know, that was my first time go with some great competitor. I mean he's explosive, he can bend the edge pretty well. And then right now, like you said, we're not doing a lot of physical stuff, so it's more like working your hands and your technique and stuff like that, which I think is good for both of us. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: Andrew, good stuff, man, Enjoy your rest of your summer and we'll see in the drink camp coop. Now we're joined by a new Giants offensive line and John Runny. 00:06:20 Speaker 3: John, how are you, man? 00:06:21 Speaker 5: I'm doing well. 00:06:21 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me on here. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: So your vet. 00:06:23 Speaker 2: You've been around the block a couple of times, but everyone tells you this offense is really tough to learn. How has it been for you the last couple months trying to absorb all of this? 00:06:30 Speaker 7: Uh? 00:06:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, they definitely weren't wrong. It has taken some uh used to you know, within everything, all the terminology, But I'm getting a hang of it now and it helps having really smart guys around me, especially air center John Michael, He's who helped me a lot and Sully getting there and feel more uncomfortable each day. 00:06:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one of your teammates you're made alumin or who I'm sure has helped you coming with Carmer and Brisillo from from Vegas trying to kind of get you involved. How has he been helping you trying to kind of

learn everything and get going here In the. 00:06:59 Speaker 5: Offense, definitely, Jermaine's been with Karm. I think this is their third step together, so they definitely have an interesting dynamic with each other in the offensive line room. And it's funny to joke about, but some of this stuff we're doing on offense and the protection schemes is something that I've never really done before and it's taken some getting used to, but understanding it now and a lot of these guys have been in the system for a long time, so it's nice to be able to go to them and you know, guys like Jermaine who's been under Caarm for a good amount of time now and kind of learn how it hits their brain and me trying to put that into you know, how I see the game as well, and just kind of understanding this philosophy and scheme that we're putting it in. 00:07:36 Speaker 2: You mentioned John Michael Schmidtz, your young center. Everyone has, you know, a lot of learning to do in the Rookiears heading into a second season, when you see him as a guy that has to make the calls, control the offensive line where see in terms of the mental aspect, and becoming that leader of the group. 00:07:52 Speaker 5: He's been fantastic every step of the way that I've seen him, from day one of the offseason to or right now, rarely makes mistakes. You can't even really tell that he's a second year player. He kind of feels like he's a fourth or fifth year veteran the way that he's up in the line of scrimmage, commanding everybody you know, to his left and right and making sure everybody's on the page, same page in the backfield of the quarterbacks and the running backs. And it's been awesome. Really smart guy, tough and excited to play with him. You know, come come in August September. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: I know you're not a big social media guy, so I'm not sure if you're quote wind of this, but when you first got here, we did our interview together and you said, I'm a little more comfortable on the left side, and then when you started playing right, it was like, oh my god, he's playing right. I don't know what's going to happen. And I'm sitting here, I'm like the guy he started right. I don't understand what the big deal is. Does it matter to you right or left? Are you perfectly comfortable playing on the right guard? 00:08:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've played left in college, and early on in my career i played left. But you know, most recently I've been playing on the right side and pretty much been strictly right ever since we started the off season programs, So I ain't definitely feel a lot more comfortable there, starting to feel and very very like home to me for sure. 00:09:00 Speaker 2: I know Evan has been taking a ton of represent team yet, but what has been like working with him on the right side, at least for the mental game. 00:09:06 Speaker 5: It's been good. We've been in walkthroughs together mainly. He hasn't done any live team reps for I think it's the doctor's orders whatever he's got going forward, and it's been it's been great. He's been helping me out as much as he can, and you know, we're trying to trying to help each other here in there. I'm trying to learn from him how he sees things and whatever he needs help and pointers on learning how we're gonna work together fit these double teams where if he's gonna be so we don't step on each other. And it's it's been a fun learning process and it's nice having one of the largest team in beings I've ever seen that entire left to play next to. So it's been it's been nice. 00:09:40 Speaker 3: He's a big dude. 00:09:41 Speaker 2: Yeah. Final question, you've been around offensive line coaches a long time, good ones. What it makes Carmen Brisolo a little bit different and what makes him effective as a teacher. 00:09:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really detailed. Well, we'll be watching a play in the in the film room and seems like maybe we spend ten minutes on two seconds of film that has passed and really detaility is hammering that home and. 00:10:05 Speaker 2: Just like hand placed with footwork things like that, or is it more mental like rule stuff? 00:10:09 Speaker 5: A little bit of everything. Honestly, he doesn't skip anybody. He goes right down the line and identify And it's not not just him coaching at you, it's you having a conversation about like why why did this happen? What do you think caused this? How can we fix it? What can we do to try to improve and get better? And uh, it's it's been great given pointers to guys to you know, to try to work stuff in the team periods where it's a new technique and it's not necessarily going to work out right away, but giving you that grace and understanding that you're trying to learn a new technique and going forward that's going to work out and be more effective down the line. And uh, it's it's been great. I think everybody's been really enjoying the room. 00:10:45 Speaker 2: I guess that grace would disappear as we get into training camp and pre season games. Yeah, yeah, so that's the season. This is the learning this is the learning time of absolutely joh goodtuff that we appreciate the time. Thank you. 00:10:56 Speaker 8: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens, so go to that retreat NW you moves to the country. Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are you ready for all that life brings? 00:11:11 Speaker 2: Football is coming and so is the next college semester. If you need funding, a Citizen Student loan could help you pay for one hundred percent of your school certified cost. Gets your rate quote in about two minutes at citizens bank dot com slash pay for college. Now we're joined by a Giants offensive tackle Evan Neil Evan. What's going on? Man? 00:11:29 Speaker 4: That's so much man, I'm blessed to be here. How you doing. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: It's great to talk to you as always, always love talking to you. First, I think what Giant fans want to know is how

you feeling health wise? Man? Where you at? 00:11:37 Speaker 4: That's why I'm feeling good. Man. I still, you know, recovering from my ankle injury. I'm almost ready to go. Still have some fine tuning things. Ankles definitely strong and moving along in the right direction. 00:11:48 Speaker 2: Now we're recording this or so fans don't start freaking out. This is the middle of June, so we still got about the six to seven weeks. In those sixty seven weeks, do you expect first day trending again that you're going to be rip roaring, ready to go full go team as the plan? 00:12:00 Speaker 4: That is the goal. God forbidding any setbacks or anything like that. I'll be ready to ready to go first their training camp. 00:12:06 Speaker 2: How have you been able to stay up on all the new stuff with Colon Burcello, with the protections and all that, you know, having to spend some of your time at practice on the side doing rehab rather than being with the offensive lineman is doing the drills. 00:12:20 Speaker 4: Just taking advantage of as many mental reps as I can, trying to pay his best attention as I can, and in the meetings, taking good notes, asking questions, and also taking advantage of the walk through periods that I get to participate in as well. So, yeah, just trying to take the time to you know, focus more on the mental side of the game. 00:12:41 Speaker 2: What is it about Colin Barcello as a coach and a teacher that that you like and and strikes you as something that's positive. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so far since I've been around calm, he's definitely thorough in terms of how he breaks down and you know, explains our offense to us. He creates a pretty good working environment in the room as well and on the field. Or he's a good coach, he's gonna know, demand excellence, He's gonna get after you. Yeah, so he's gonna call it how he sees it, but I believe so far from what I've seen, he's gonna call it fair as well. 00:13:15 Speaker 3: How do you think he's going to help you improve your game? 00:13:20 Speaker 4: I feel like just by you know, helping me out, coaching me if I have any questions or corners, you know, something that he may see see that that I need to work on or maybe need to adjust, whether it be a set angle, whether it be uh you know, you know how I look at my stance or how I'm carrying my hands, or how I'm seeing the game. You know what I'm saying, like how I'm and understanding our offense. Uh, you know, how I'm understanding and recognizing defensive fronts and you know, safety rotations or when pressures coming, and just understanding the game from a you know, holistic standpoint. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: I know you never wanted to make excuses, but in the first years in the league, you've dealt with an ankle, You've dealt with in me second half of your first year. I know you came back after the me but to me, you didn't look right. How much overall has that impacted your ability to improve your craft as alignment

as a football player, as you have to worry is much about trying to get your body right as you are trying to train your football stuff correct. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: Definitely, it just took away valuable reps from me. You know those games that even though games are serious, you know, over the grand scheme of it. It's kind of like practice, you know what I'm saying. I'm finding myself sharper than myself every single rep. And you know those are the reps that I got to that I had to miss out on, you know. But hey, everything happens for a reason. You know, I wouldn't change anything about it. Injuries happened, That's nothing that I can control. You just want to have the most positive attitude about it moving forward and uh, you know, not missing any more time moving forward. 00:14:48 Speaker 2: A final question, then, as you begin to get away from the rehab stuff and you really start zoning in on football stuff and training your technique, what are some of the technique areas of your game that you're really trying to hone in on and prove on so you can show improvement on the field. 00:15:03 Speaker 4: That is right tackle, Yeah, definitely, what I want to focus on improve on is my past protection. 00:15:09 Speaker 7: For sure. 00:15:11 Speaker 4: I want to you know, get better in every every faster of the game. But I feel like if I really can dial that in, that really helped me take that next step into being the player that I know I am. Uh yeah, overall, to help us as a team, help us as an offensive line, but even you know, being more consistent and being better in the run game also, so I won't look at it, you know from a from an entire perspective and just in terms of like getting better and everybody that I can. 00:15:35 Speaker 2: Is it more hand placement for you? Is it? Is it lower body stuff? Is it balance? 00:15:39 Speaker 3: Is it footwork? 00:15:39 Speaker 2: What are some of the specific aspects you're really trying to You could. 00:15:42 Speaker 4: Call a hand placement, you could call a balance, you can call it position, and you can you know, call it whatever you like. But you know, if those are areas that need to be addressed, you know, those are the areas that I'm gonna focus on addressing, you know, every day, you know, focusing on one thing each practice that I go out there and practice and uh, you know, do it until I can't get it wrong, and then moving on to the next thing. And as time goes on and as the season goes on. I've been a really good spot. 00:16:07 Speaker 3: And we can't wait to see it. 00:16:08 Speaker 2: Evan, always good to talk to you, man, Like, appreciate you, thank you, thank you. Now we're joined by a Giants offensive lineman, Jermaine Luminari Jermaine. 00:16:14 Speaker 7: Hawaii Man really good how you doing. 00:16:15 Speaker 2: So do you feel like I don't want to put too much on your play here, but do you feel like you're almost a little bit of like an assistant coach to this this spring, coming with car with you from Vegas, try to help teach his system to all the guys that are already here. 00:16:27 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the big thing is just bringing guys along with you, you know, like you know, on the offensive line, all fill of us got to be one, so why not try to spread the knowledge. I've been in the league for eight years now, and I feel like it's my job not only to perform, you know, for this team, but to help other guys reach their goals and the level of that I know they can play it. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: Also, why do you think and why do you embrace that leadership so much? And why do you think it's so important too? 00:16:53 Speaker 7: Because I've been around really good leaders and really good players, and I know what it takes to be a really good offensive line. And yeah, you know we have at we have me running Schmidt. You know, I'm probably the oldest guy on the old line, so I feel like it falls to me in order to be that guy that try tries to lead everyone in the right way and in the right direction, so hopefully we can have one of the best opens long the NFL next year. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: You've been played mostly next to Andrew Thomas at left guard. I mean, you guys are both pretty large individuals. How dominant to hit you guys can be on that side, not just in passport, but even you know, going together, run. 00:17:29 Speaker 7: Yeah, play next to eight. He's dope. Him and Schmidt or I'm learning, are really really smart and they know this offense like the back of their hands. So for me it was a little bit of a learning kirk because I know the offense, but the terminology was different. So they've been helping me big time. But just playing next to at No. One type player, he is normal type of player I want to be. It just motivates me even more to play up to his level or if not, you know, reach new heights with him and Schmidt. So it's been dope and I'm really excited to get up to play next time. 00:17:54 Speaker 2: You talk about some of the past protection rules that carn Beso brings with him, talk about how that's melded with some of the intelligence guys. Just talk about Schmidt's and Thomas and how have they all kind of figured out maybe some of the new rules that Colin Basil's putting in place as compared to maybe what they did here the last couple of years. 00:18:08 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's putting more on their plate, but allowing them to be the players that they're capable of being instead of limiting them. And you know, kind of saying hey, look we need to do this and do it this way instead of hey we need to do this, but think about the way you want to do it and get it done. You know, it's giving them more freedom to become the players they want to be. And did you go out there and play free? So it's it's it's been dope. This has been a really good off season and a really good ota is for me at offensive line getting the jail together, and I'm really excited for a mini camp in oc training camp. 00:18:39

Speaker 2: Final question, You've been at guard in the spring, but like on the side, are you like, all right, well, if I'm on tackling this player, then I gotta do this, Like, are you like mentally in case they do eventually need you out there because the injury or something like that, if you need to go to tackle, are you mentally repairing yourself in case of that situation. 00:18:54 Speaker 7: No, I trust the guys we have in the room. You know, Ev, I know he's going to ball out right tackle. I trust easy Josh Yadne. We have a really good group of tackles in the in the old arm room. So for me, you know, worst case scenario, if I had to do it, I can do it. But I'm really enjoying my time at Guard and it's allowing me to use this party that got lesson more to really you know, get on those guys and physically dominate them. So I'm really excited for the opportunity. 00:19:17 Speaker 2: I love it. 00:19:18 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see in there. It's making good stuff. 00:19:20 Speaker 2: Men. 00:19:20 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: You loved turf. You're good at it. 00:19:24 Speaker 8: So you start a turf bus, business grows, your savings grow, become the most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all that life brings? 00:19:36 Speaker 2: And now we're joined by a giant second year center John Michael Smith JMSH. 00:19:39 Speaker 3: How's it going, man? 00:19:40 Speaker 6: It's going good? Yeah, it's it's It's been a really good off season. Manh. Yeah, it's going good out there. 00:19:48 Speaker 2: So how is John Michael Schmidt's rookie year different from second year off season where you know we're about to combine and we're getting drafted and your sole focus is being in this building, you know, getting better as a football player. 00:20:01 Speaker 9: Yeah, matured a lot and not only grew as a football player, but grew outside of football and just if it was just bodywork, if it was getting my mental health right and just stuff like that. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: So yeah, now, obviously you're someone that was very intune with the mental part of the game already, but now being in this offense for the second year, do you find your confidence in that regard growing a little bit where you're more comfortable being very vocal and taking control of that line. 00:20:36 Speaker 6: Yes, definitely. 00:20:37 Speaker 9: I would definitely say my confidence has been getting been getting better and taking more control of the offensive line room as the confidence grows. 00:20:48 Speaker 6: So it's definitely been a big step for me. 00:20:53 Speaker 2: What has it been like working with Carmen Brisolo, new offensive line coach. I'm sure there are some new protection rules, new calls and things like that that you're trying to learn this offseason. Yeah. 00:21:02 Speaker 9: Coach Karm's a great teacher, a great offensive line coach. He helps you really understand the game and he brings it down to a low level and then he works his way up, which is amazing. He just works really well with us, and No, I got all respect from him. He's really intelligent. He knows the game really well, So a great addition to have in our room. 00:21:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been watching you guys a lot doing your drills, and it seems like he wants me more of a teacher than a coach a little bit. 00:21:33 Speaker 3: Everything is so detail oriented. 00:21:34 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of yelling and screaming, and it just seems like in every single play when you guys are you know, you have no content yet, but you're working on your call and your protection, that everything is just very very detailed. 00:21:44 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:21:44 Speaker 9: No, even if you're doing indie work, even if we're out there doing walk throughs by ourselves and stuff, he wants to be very detailed of the calls we make and what to focus on on, what like technique we're going to use here. 00:21:59 Speaker 6: And he's just been a tremendous part of my game so far. 00:22:02 Speaker 2: So Yeah, watching the two new guards, the vets kind of work with with you and the tackles. They feel like those new guys are really good at communicating I see you guys after plays, after practice, there's a lot of discussion going on. How have those two veterans that have seen a lot kind of helped bring your group together a little bit? 00:22:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, they helped us a lot. 00:22:19 Speaker 9: I mean there, John and Jermaine have been tremendous additions to this h to this hole line unit, and they've helped us grow a lot. And like you said, I mean they've they've been in this, their veterans in the league, and they've they've helped. 00:22:36 Speaker 6: Me out and. 00:22:38 Speaker 9: Let me understand the game more on of how they see at a different angle maybe that I've maybe that I haven't haven't seen. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: So and Jermaine was with coach Briscillo in Vegas, right, I imagine him being able from a player perspective help you guys understand what he's asking. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: For must be a huge benefit too, right. 00:22:56 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly like Jermaine I think when he first got here, you just like we asked about coach Carmen stuff and he was very straight up of what he's going to demand. Obviously he's he's got a high standard, uh in the old line room, and he's gonna hold you accountable to it. 00:23:10 Speaker 6: But he's a great coach and a great a guy to leader's room. 00:23:15 Speaker 2: No, I would say, do you correct me if you think my impression is wrong that you're a pretty quiet, mild manner guy off the field, right, you know you don't. You don't say a lot, but when you speak, you want it to matter. I don't do a couple of guys though, when you're playing, you had to talk a little trash a little bit, don't you to the defense a little bit? Depends What does it depend on? I don't know the moon I'm feeling. 00:23:37 Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, you just gotta like that. I think

that's a good Yeah, yeah, yeah, it all depends. It just I don't know. 00:23:46 Speaker 3: And when you look, it just happens. 00:23:48 Speaker 6: You really can't. You don't really uh have a say for it. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: It just it just just comes out right. You need it, you need it. 00:23:54 Speaker 2: I got when you went at what was over and you kind of sat back, you took your little break, You went back and you looked at your rookie. Ye, what was your impression of it? 00:24:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, tough year. 00:24:05 Speaker 4: It was. 00:24:06 Speaker 6: It was a tough year. It was a lot of growing up. I had to do this offseason and. 00:24:12 Speaker 4: It was. 00:24:15 Speaker 9: Looking back at film what I needed to study, what I needed to and just take little things here and there. You can't look at it the whole, the whole picture of it, and obviously you're going to critique every rep you have, but you got to take the good and the bad out of it at the same time. So just know that there were good things that we've accomplished this this past season, but obviously that's not. 00:24:37 Speaker 6: Where we want to be. That's that's nowhere near. We have visions for this year. 00:24:43 Speaker 9: We have goals for this year, especially our old line room, and as a team, we're excited to get after it. 00:24:49 Speaker 2: All right, And when you took a look at the tape, we talked about the mental part already, how you're trying to work on the new calls and the offense and all that stuff. From a physical standpoint, what were some of the things that you pinpointed off the film last year that all right, I need to get better. Are at a B or C in order to take my game to the next level. 00:25:02 Speaker 6: On the pros, yeah, I would say definitely uh. 00:25:07 Speaker 9: My initial set uh pass pro I would say that, especially if you get a the one on one matchup, and then I would say, uh, sustaining box in the second level just if you as the centers climb up to get those linebackers. And then uh probably just more finish more uh more finished in the run game, more uh finished in the past game and getting in a great position. 00:25:36 Speaker 2: So I think that's my final question is how much different are the from the you can be both sides of it, the physical technique that coach briscill is teaching you guys, Yeah, and then the calls, the mental your pass protection rules. How much is that stuff different from last year with Bobby than it is this year? 00:25:53 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he's he changed a little bit, but for the most part, I mean he's been adjusted to what we've been what we've been doing. So I mean he's had his like, his stuff that he wants us to do, and he just been he just added on stuff that he wants us to uh obviously the techniques, the calls he'll make and all that. 00:26:18 Speaker 3: So Yeah, Jm's good stuff. 00:26:20 Speaker 2: Man. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, enjoy your summer. 00:26:21 Speaker 6: Appreciate it. 00:26:22 Speaker 2: Now we're joined by a Giants offensive lineman, Marcus Keith and Marcus how ware. 00:26:25 Speaker 10: You man, man, I'm doing good, Man doing great. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Good to talk to you. 00:26:28 Speaker 2: What has this off season been like for you actually being able to work on your craft as a football player not having to worry about Yeah. 00:26:37 Speaker 10: It's been a lot of time for me to focus on my game and still just work on my growth and development. But you know, still got things to work on. 00:26:45 Speaker 2: What were the things in terms of growth and development you're really trying to focus on this offseason where you're trying to get better. 00:26:51 Speaker 10: A lot of like fundamentals and just like my basic knowledge and understanding of the game, which is like, uh, like you know, just friends IDs, stuff. 00:26:58 Speaker 2: Like that, was that he made a little bit more complicated giving them. There are a lot of new protection rules with a new offensive line coach. How are able to kind of kind of mess those two things together? 00:27:07 Speaker 10: I wouldn't quite say it's like different rules. He's just like he has like a I feel like a different like philosophy. I guess, like the way the way he approaches the protection it's a little bit different. So it's not really quite like the rules are change. The rules are still the rules. It's just the way we are approaching where we go about the rules is to the biggest thing. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: How does that different philosophy help a younger guy like you that, to your point is still working on the mental part of the game and then trying to make sure of everything straight. 00:27:34 Speaker 10: And just making sure you have like a like a basic understanding of the game, like as far as like fundamentals and X and o's. It helps great with that and just building up your general knowledge. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: Watching him from afar, he seems like, you know, some coaches are yellows and screamers are motivators. He seems more like a teacher. To me, we're really getting in on fine points of details. Can you give me some examples of some of the stuff that how that maybe helps a guy like you as you're trying to still you know, mature into a good NFL player. 00:27:59 Speaker 10: Uh uh, I'm trying to think about that one. 00:28:03 Speaker 6: Uh. 00:28:05 Speaker 10: I mean, I guess again, I guess like I can just go out repeating it, like let's say, if you go with the pro he just harped on the details and just like knowing what the defense is in having that basic knowledge so you can already know what they expect, what pressure might be coming just off the technique in front of you, and just so on and so forth, and that's knowledge that you can take with like any scheme or any playbook. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: What is it you like about the way he teaches you, guys and his approach. 00:28:30 Speaker 10: Oh, it's just he's just

he'sterough, Like like if he hasn't taught it to you, then like it's like he's not going to be like furious and upset that you don't know it, Like we don't know it and that's the problem. But we're gonna fix it immediately and just work from there. It's just your responsibility. 00:28:44 Speaker 3: What are your big goals for yourself this year? 00:28:47 Speaker 10: Just to keep improving and make sure above all us that I stay consistent. That I want to be consistent. So that's my biggest goal this year. 00:28:54 Speaker 2: Talking to your teammates, you guys have a lot of bets in that offensive line this year, man, especially guys on the inside. I had played a. 00:29:00 Speaker 6: Lot of snaps in this It's a lot of knowledge drawn from. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, how have those guys kind of kind of helped you along as a younger player trying to learn the tricks of the trade a little bit? 00:29:08 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, just just just wear a film and the constantly pointing out a little details, a little things that I like, I think about, but I may not think like that might be the issue of more problem at the time, and they pointed out and it's just like, you know, give me a small tip or something that I can use the correction and just just front of my game. 00:29:22 Speaker 3: We can't wait to see it. Mark appreciate the time. 00:29:24 Speaker 6: Man, appreciate it. 00:29:25 Speaker 2: And now we're joined by giants guard Aaron Stinney. Aaron, how are you man? I'm good man, how are you? 00:29:29 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. It's nice to meet you. 00:29:30 Speaker 2: What is it kind of been like trying to figure out this offense and everything they're trying to ask. 00:29:34 Speaker 3: You from here with pigs. 00:29:36 Speaker 11: It's been awesome, man. It's you know, it's a new new spot learning experience, but you know it's a great program. You know, the coaches are doing a great job but in solid things. So it's been pretty good picking it all up. 00:29:47 Speaker 2: And you have a couple of young guys in that room, right Evan Neil is only going to the thirty year, joh Michael Smithson the second year. But you also have a lot of vets that have played a lot of games. How has it been kind of having so many experienced guys in that room trying to take in what Carmen Brasil is trying to teach you all for the first time. 00:30:02 Speaker 11: Honestly, I think it's great, man, you know, being that we have so many vets in the room. You know, that's a lot of different people that have played a lot of different snaps in this game, a lot of different techniques in terminology that you know, we can pick and learn off of each other. So it's been a great job of guys, you know, kind of you know, learning things from each other because you know, we're all at different places of our careers, and you know, the young guys are very talented and they know a lot about football as well. So you know, I think it's a great way and collective of people in there to be able to teach each other and learn off of each other. And Car's doing a great job of, you know, holding the reins and leading everybody down the right path. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: How is either similar or a little bit different than some of the the past offensive line coaches you've had. What makes them stand out? 00:30:46 Speaker 10: Uh? 00:30:46 Speaker 11: You know, I think I think he has a great, great way of being able to deliver the information to you to have it applicable to the field m and for you to be able to hear it and be like, oh, okay, I know exactly what he's talking about. I actually see it from that standpoint on where he's kicking it at. So he does a great job of being able to relay information to you so that way you can absorb it and you know, use it as you go to on down the line. 00:31:13 Speaker 2: And talking to Andrew Thomas, he told me that he is open too of hearing from you guys, what you see how you would want to play star show. While he has non negotiables, I'm curious to know what those are. He's willing to listen to vets like you that have done this a long time, for sure, to figure out how to best handle that with this group. 00:31:30 Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure. And he does do a great job of that. You know, he has a few things where he's like, hey, this is exactly how I want to hear this way. And the nice thing about that though, is you know when he does give something like that, he follows it up with the reason and why, and it makes sense as to why he would want it done that way, and then you know, for guys that are you know, later in their career or you know, just kind of have certain habits that are working for them, you know, he'll see that, notice that and won't try to coach you up or change you on things that are actually working for you. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: For a vet like you that no stuff you've been around, you know how this stuff works. 00:32:06 Speaker 2: Right? How important is it for you to be told the why and for it to make sense for you? So it's one thing that just copy the technique is teaching you, but to understand why you're doing it. Does that help you as a player too, I think to just as the game goes along. 00:32:18 Speaker 11: I think I think it's definitely helpful honestly, regardless of where you're at in your career. Of course, whether you're a young guy, whether you're an older guy. You know, getting that information of how it's going to help you out on the field, how it's going to help you do this or that, I think it's. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: A great way of you know, it allows you to go, oh, Okay. 00:32:36 Speaker 11: This is why you're saying this, this is why you're teaching this, and you can actually see it kind of done in an imagery setting in. 00:32:43 Speaker 2: Your head and you're like, okay, cool. 00:32:45 Speaker 11: Then you go give it a try and you're like it makes sense. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: We never changed talk when you first got

here. Give giant fans an idea of the type of guy and player you are. What are they getting with with Aaron City? 00:32:56 Speaker 7: Uh? 00:32:56 Speaker 11: You know, hard working player, man, love to have fun, go out there, it's a blast out on the field. Let to help out my teammates. Man, And you know, I just want to go out and help this team so, you know, win some games and be as good as we can. 00:33:08 Speaker 3: Can't wait to see it and our good stuff. 00:33:10 Speaker 2: Man. 00:33:10 Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man. 00:33:11 Speaker 2: And now we're joined by giants offensive lineman Austin Schulman. Austin, how are you man? 00:33:15 Speaker 12: I'm good man. 00:33:15 Speaker 2: How are you so? Center? Only? Are you working at guard? A little bit too? 00:33:19 Speaker 12: Mainly center? But I can do some guard kind of if they need it is kind of the situation. 00:33:24 Speaker 3: So what has it been like working with Carmen Brisilla. 00:33:26 Speaker 12: It's been good. It's definitely a different system that I've been in. It's been fun to learn. I think we've just kind of got We've got all the tools to attack defenses, help with whatever they give us. So we've kind of got everything in and just getting on the same page as everybody and learning, learning the way they like to do it, and uh, but yeah. 00:33:44 Speaker 6: It's been a good time. 00:33:44 Speaker 12: It's been fun. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: Now you're a veteran this league, you've been with different coaches, different systems. What kind of teacher is Carmen Brisilla prepared to maybe some of the other offensive line coaches. 00:33:53 Speaker 12: He's awesome. He's been around for a while, he's been coaching, coaching the position for a long time. I think he's a good good idea on how to kind of get those those systems and stuff across the players and to where we're all understanding it in the same way. 00:34:07 Speaker 2: One thing I really like that you guys have been doing out at OTAs is that it's not just the online working together you have a period. It's almost in every OTA from what I've seen, tight ends come in, a money back comes in, the quarterback comes in, and you're making calls with the quarterback based on how the other offensive linemen and coaches are kind of lining up the defense. Right. Talk a little bit about how that kind of helps build chemistry with your group and making those calls to make sure you get those protections. 00:34:31 Speaker 12: I think that's super important because we're like on game day and team periods and OTAs, we're relying on communicating with each other and everyone being on the same page to make the play look good and get everybody blocked and to be successful with any play we run. So I think getting everybody working together where we can kind of slow down and talk about the rules and why we're doing it in certain ways is very very helpful for sure. 00:34:54 Speaker 3: What has been like working with John Michael Schmidt's a young center. 00:34:57 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been fun. He's a smart, smart dude, really understands it well as a good player, So it's it's been fun kind of working with him. 00:35:05 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:35:05 Speaker 2: I gotta imagine in terms of this offense, A lot of people say for the skill position, guys, that's complicated. 00:35:10 Speaker 3: What is it like for a center on offensive linement? 00:35:13 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's like I said earlier, it's it's it's complicated, but it's it's complicated because we have every tool to attack a defense in any way that we need to based on what they give us. So we have everything everything in at all time. So you, guys, you kind of have to know what to do with everything which can help us in the long run once we get it figured out. 00:35:35 Speaker 2: All right, final question is you face them a practice, but more importantly, you face them the game situations. Yeah, explain to fans what it's like trying to block Dexter Lawrence. 00:35:44 Speaker 6: It's tough. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy. 00:35:47 Speaker 12: A lot of double teams, a lot of sliding to them and protection. Just trying to get four hands on them is basically the game plan there. 00:35:54 Speaker 2: Would you have a guy that is not just that big, but is that agile? Right, because this one thing, if you know you just got to anchor down, the big guy's gonna come straight at you. 00:36:01 Speaker 3: I'm sure then you could adjust your technique. 00:36:03 Speaker 2: But when that guy can also swim you or rip you just talk about the challenge his combination of athleticism and size. We'll give giant opponents this upcoming y. 00:36:12 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough. 00:36:13 Speaker 12: I mean, and if you don't if you don't have a system in place or a plan to get four hands on him, like I said, on every play, you're you can't block the battle. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's tough. It's definitely tough. Yeah, you gotta you gotta have four hands. 00:36:27 Speaker 3: On him Austin, this is fun, man, I appreciate it. 00:36:30 Speaker 4: Thank you. 00:36:31 Speaker 2: Thanks. That's to look at the big man up front. The Giants offensive line. A lot of conversation about Carmen and Briscilla, their new offensive line coach as well. I thought some really good information from the guys as we get ready for the pads to come on when trading camp begins at the end of July. I'm John Schmelk. Thanks for being with us on the Giants Total Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 00:36:48 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. 00:36:49 Speaker 2: Everybody,