บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Avengers: Infinity War Review : Marvel Alliance : We Can Watch This All Day

and the Collector interacted with the Guardians. But that's really 73 00:04:26.850 --> 00:04:30.089 the only... And then there's the Thanos connection, but Thanos 74 00:04:30.170 --> 00:04:33.629 hadn't interacted with them yet. It just hadn't... We hadn't 75 00:04:33.670 --> 00:04:38.240 got there yet. We hadn't seen... how they would play 76 00:04:38.300 --> 00:04:41.480 off of them. And it turns out some of the coolest, 77 00:04:41.740 --> 00:04:45.170 like most fun scenes in this movie are just the 78 00:04:45.250 --> 00:04:48.509 guardians playing off of the other characters. And that was, 79 00:04:48.649 --> 00:04:50.649 that was what something I really wanted to see out 80 00:04:50.689 --> 00:04:53.189 of this was how these two different groups of characters 81 00:04:53.230 --> 00:04:54.970 would mesh. Yeah. 82 00:04:54.990 --> 00:04:57.850 And especially, you know, we see where the guardians, you know, 83 00:04:57.910 --> 00:05:00.449 where we end off in volume three, I'd forgotten like, 84 00:05:00.550 --> 00:05:03.720 Oh my gosh, here's, here's our Gamora, you know, here's 85 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.980 the Gamora that we had got. I kind of, slightly 86 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.339 forgotten in the sense of how, how different, you know, 87 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:11.720 I knew how different, but it was one of those, man, 88 00:05:11.779 --> 00:05:13.779 it's been a while. Like when we, you and I 89 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.579 proposed doing this full for patron at that point, I 90 00:05:16.620 --> 00:05:20.199 have not, I have purposely not rewatched any of these 91 00:05:20.259 --> 00:05:23.000 movies until we get to it in order to kind 92 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.720 of preserve what we were kind of hoping to do 93 00:05:25.819 --> 00:05:28.399 with this, with this series. So like I said, it 94 00:05:28.459 --> 00:05:31.180 had been probably almost two plus years since I've seen 95 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:31.660 this movie. 96 00:05:32.310 --> 00:05:34.899 I think the only exception I did to that was 97 00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:39.920 before Quantumania. We rewatched, well, we naturally, because of the show, 98 00:05:39.939 --> 00:05:43.120 rewatched the first Ant-Man movie. And then we went ahead 99 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.279 and rewatched Ant-Man and the Lost going into it. And 100 00:05:46.300 --> 00:05:48.790 then I've watched that movie another time with my son 101 00:05:49.110 --> 00:05:52.990 just because he likes Ant-Man. But that's it. Other than those, 102 00:05:53.389 --> 00:05:55.389 that's the only one I've gone out of order on 103 00:05:55.709 --> 00:05:56.930 for this entire project. 104 00:05:58.050 --> 00:05:59.490 So you're right. 105 00:05:59.589 --> 00:06:02.970 The Guard of the Galaxy, seeing them interact just getting 106 00:06:03.029 --> 00:06:06.009 some of these characters or you know just seeing the 107 00:06:06.050 --> 00:06:10.209 characters interact post civil war where it was left off 108 00:06:10.250 --> 00:06:12.920 at that point was going to be also fascinating to. 109 00:06:12.949 --> 00:06:17.300 Us it was like uh post civil war even post 110 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.959 age of ultron you know uh skipping the intro of 111 00:06:20.980 --> 00:06:23.459 the movie real quick when hulk shows back up on 112 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.180 earth and he goes to dr strange first well he 113 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.569 lands and dr strange's place first they go to tony 114 00:06:29.589 --> 00:06:32.360 stark like that's the first time tony stark and Bruce 115 00:06:32.379 --> 00:06:39.029 Banner have been together since Ultron. But going back, looking 116 00:06:39.069 --> 00:06:44.230 at the beginning, we've got basically the decimated Asgardian ship. 117 00:06:44.290 --> 00:06:47.689 It's ripped in half. Kenneth Branagh is doing the voiceover 118 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.680 that you hear at the beginning of it that's basically 119 00:06:50.740 --> 00:06:54.350 like a cry for help. It's an SOS message. talking 120 00:06:54.370 --> 00:06:56.810 about how it's not a warship it's just you know 121 00:06:56.860 --> 00:07:00.399 there's women and children there and thanos has destroyed it 122 00:07:00.459 --> 00:07:02.699 all ebony maz given his spiel that we would hear 123 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:07.750 a couple times and i feel like they they they 124 00:07:07.769 --> 00:07:11.069 tell us they're not messing around when you kill heimdall 125 00:07:11.449 --> 00:07:14.389 let's be honest in the mcu a relatively minor character 126 00:07:14.750 --> 00:07:18.430 played by a very big actor And you kill Loki 127 00:07:18.949 --> 00:07:21.610 within the first, like, what, five minutes? Oh, and Hulk 128 00:07:21.810 --> 00:07:24.769 just got beat down. Like, they really showed us they 129 00:07:24.790 --> 00:07:27.870 weren't messing around. Kind of funny thing from when I 130 00:07:27.949 --> 00:07:31.009 saw Infinity War. I saw it the opening night, and 131 00:07:31.029 --> 00:07:32.810 then I went the next day as well. And that 132 00:07:32.889 --> 00:07:36.629 second day, there was a girl there cosplaying as Loki. 133 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:40.420 Massive horns and everything. And I'm like, oh, I bet 134 00:07:40.459 --> 00:07:43.949 you you haven't seen it yet. And you're... You're going 135 00:07:43.970 --> 00:07:46.629 to be sad five minutes into this movie. 136 00:07:48.500 --> 00:07:52.519 Yeah, she probably was in for some disappointment very quickly. 137 00:07:53.459 --> 00:07:56.459 Marcus and McFeely, when they started writing the script for 138 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.759 this movie, there was no Thor Ragnarok script yet. So 139 00:07:59.779 --> 00:08:04.300 they didn't know where Thanos would find Loki. There are 140 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.819 many drafts of script with Thanos finding Loki in several 141 00:08:06.860 --> 00:08:07.600 different places. 142 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:09.819 Robert Downey Jr. 143 00:08:09.860 -->

00:08:14.089 Had a lot of separate deals going on. from his co-stars, 144 00:08:15.509 --> 00:08:17.600 you know, in the subsequent films at that point. But 145 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.879 the appearances in Civil War and Homecoming were not tied 146 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:26.899 to this particular deal. This negotiated separately after he completed 147 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.009 his contract to do the Iron Man trilogy. So he 148 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:32.870 had basically two deals going on at once. 149 00:08:33.929 --> 00:08:37.870 Could you imagine if this deal had fallen through? And like, just... 150 00:08:38.009 --> 00:08:40.429 they do this movie and it wasn't going to, obviously 151 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:41.860 they were going to do what they had to. And 152 00:08:41.899 --> 00:08:43.960 they had the autonomy at that point to do it. Like, 153 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:46.039 I know there was the thing that we talked about. 154 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.559 We're like, I promote her, try to get, keep Tony 155 00:08:49.580 --> 00:08:52.539 Stark out of civil war, but that wasn't going to 156 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.980 happen here. They were going to back up however much 157 00:08:55.059 --> 00:08:58.100 money they needed to back up to in the truck to, 158 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:58.840 to make it work. 159 00:09:00.259 --> 00:09:04.100 Tom Holland, as we all know, he likes revealing secrets. 160 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.600 There's some great tech talks of how often he's done that. 161 00:09:07.289 --> 00:09:12.169 He was not allowed to read the script for the movie. 162 00:09:13.789 --> 00:09:15.730 And in one of the promotional videos for the movie, 163 00:09:15.809 --> 00:09:18.789 several of his cast members are in an interrogation, refusing 164 00:09:18.809 --> 00:09:23.220 to reveal any spoilers. And Holland's mouth is conspicuously taped shut. 165 00:09:23.269 --> 00:09:28.159 Chadwick Boseman, he had just he production on this movie 166 00:09:28.179 --> 00:09:30.860 began just two weeks after Black Panther wrapped. 167 00:09:31.139 --> 00:09:32.120 That's a rough schedule. 168 00:09:32.419 --> 00:09:32.659 Yeah. 169 00:09:33.149 --> 00:09:36.029 And that doesn't necessarily mean his parts of it started 170 00:09:36.070 --> 00:09:39.250 that quick. And hopefully not. I don't know. But, man, 171 00:09:39.389 --> 00:09:41.129 that is a quick turnaround time. 172 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:43.909 I came across this theory. I wanted to see what 173 00:09:43.950 --> 00:09:47.029 you think of it. A fan theory, courtesy of Screen Rant, 174 00:09:47.090 --> 00:09:50.710 established that Thanos had been waiting for Infinity War's events 175 00:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.840 to take possession of the Infinity Stones because he could 176 00:09:54.889 --> 00:09:58.399 have been stopped by a more powerful than him, like Odin. 177 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.919 the Ancient One, an ego preventing him to fulfill his plan. 178 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.399 With the deaths of these three before Infinity War, Thanos 179 00:10:07.419 --> 00:10:09.940 was free to get the Infinity Stones without any intervention. 180 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.519 I had kind of forgotten about this theory. It's definitely 181 00:10:14.580 --> 00:10:15.779 slightly plausible. 182 00:10:16.940 --> 00:10:21.600 It is plausible if... If you think Thanos is tracking that, 183 00:10:21.700 --> 00:10:24.440 he had to know that Odin was already weak before that. Odin, 184 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.440 I mean, Odin, he was out of the game prior 185 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.620 to it. Ego, sure. Who was the third one you said? 186 00:10:31.379 --> 00:10:32.159 The Ancient One. 187 00:10:32.710 --> 00:10:38.330 Okay. I don't know that the Ancient One would be 188 00:10:38.529 --> 00:10:40.370 so much more powerful than what we would get from 189 00:10:40.409 --> 00:10:42.850 Doctor Strange and Wong and everyone combined that Thanos would 190 00:10:42.870 --> 00:10:46.129 have worried about it there. But regardless, it's an interesting theory. 191 00:10:46.909 --> 00:10:48.909 It'd make for a fun What If episode to see 192 00:10:48.970 --> 00:10:52.549 him Trying it and those three coming together and dealing 193 00:10:52.590 --> 00:10:52.909 with him. 194 00:10:52.950 --> 00:10:53.830 Yeah, that would be. 195 00:10:54.850 --> 00:10:57.549 I've always subscribed more to the theory of he waited 196 00:10:57.629 --> 00:11:01.529 until he had a rough idea or a concrete idea 197 00:11:01.789 --> 00:11:05.509 where the bulk of the stones were. He knew the 198 00:11:05.549 --> 00:11:08.100 Power Stone was on Xandar. He knew the Space Stone 199 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.419 was with the Asgardians. Even when Thor didn't know that, 200 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:12.679 he knew that. Or no, I'm sorry, the Power Stone 201 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:16.340 was with the Collector. No, he had the Reality Stone. 202 00:11:16.379 --> 00:11:18.019 I'm mixing up where they're all at. Reality Stone was 203 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.389 with the Collector. He knew that. Power Stone on Xandar, 204 00:11:20.629 --> 00:11:24.029 he knew that. Space Stone with the Asgardians, he knew that. 205 00:11:24.429 --> 00:11:26.929 He already had a good idea that he needed to 206 00:11:26.950 --> 00:11:30.049 go to Gamora to find out about Vormir. He knew 207 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:33.889 where so many of the stones were or had it 208 00:11:33.980 --> 00:11:36.559 limited to a planet, which when you're talking about a 209 00:11:36.620 --> 00:11:40.940 cosmic scale is a relatively small area. He kind of 210 00:11:40.980 --> 00:11:43.320 weighed it. The whole movie, we don't get dates, but 211 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:45.019 it seems like it really only takes place within a 212 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.889 few days of each other. And like at most. And 213 00:11:48.970 --> 00:11:51.789 it just seems like he waited until he could grab 214 00:11:51.929 -->

00:11:54.740 as many of them at one time. So he couldn't 215 00:11:54.779 --> 00:11:56.299 be overpowered by people like that. 216 00:11:57.700 --> 00:12:00.080 Hey, you know, he's very much a planner at that point. 217 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:04.539 And he was able to, every time the heroes thought 218 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.799 they were ahead of him at that point, he was still, 219 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:08.779 he had expected it. 220 00:12:08.779 --> 00:12:11.809 Yeah. It's exactly right. 221 00:12:12.950 --> 00:12:13.490 So you're right. 222 00:12:13.570 --> 00:12:16.870 And it's, And you just, like you said, you witnessed the, 223 00:12:17.169 --> 00:12:22.340 the all power of him basically taking down the basically 224 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:28.000 half of the Asgardians, you know, cause we were watching this. 225 00:12:28.379 --> 00:12:30.240 Aaron was saying, I was like, did he just, how did, 226 00:12:30.580 --> 00:12:33.120 how were there people still alive necessarily? Cause you get to, 227 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.519 is it, oh, this just half of them. There were, 228 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:36.600 there was another ship. 229 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.059 Right. So they have to rebuild. They, they lost who 230 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:44.629 knows how many people from Hela's, from Hela's, you know, 231 00:12:44.750 --> 00:12:48.009 occupation in Thor Ragnarok. And then add to that, they 232 00:12:48.049 --> 00:12:52.570 lost half of the remainder, roughly, ballpark. And in the 233 00:12:52.590 --> 00:12:54.700 beginning of Infinity War, there is not a lot of 234 00:12:54.740 --> 00:12:57.299 people left for new Asgard and Endgame five years later. 235 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.220 Now, this has always been like some people's complaint about 236 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.019 this movie in the sense of Hulk, you know, that 237 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:06.700 Thanos takes. 238 00:13:06.539 --> 00:13:07.500 Him down very quickly. 239 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.299 And we really see this kind of, you know, we 240 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:12.700 don't see Hulk again in this form. 241 00:13:13.860 --> 00:13:15.419 Since then at that point. 242 00:13:16.220 --> 00:13:18.450 And, you know, we get to, you know, towards the 243 00:13:18.470 --> 00:13:20.110 end of the movie, we have that deleted scene where 244 00:13:20.190 --> 00:13:22.370 we get, we were supposed to get our first look 245 00:13:22.429 --> 00:13:24.470 at Professor Hulk at the end. 246 00:13:25.190 --> 00:13:30.129 Yeah, I, the explanation I've heard for that since is, 247 00:13:30.289 --> 00:13:32.340 and I can't remember if this came from an interview 248 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:36.320 or from the, from one of the commentary tracks, but 249 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:40.240 basically at the Battle of Wakanda, they were losing, they 250 00:13:40.259 --> 00:13:42.970 were getting beat. They were going to lose for the movie. 251 00:13:43.029 --> 00:13:47.509 Thanos gets all the stones, he snaps. Hulk and Banner 252 00:13:47.549 --> 00:13:52.909 have been dealing with this the whole time. That Hulk 253 00:13:53.450 --> 00:13:55.779 or Banner, I should say, figuring this out and getting 254 00:13:55.799 --> 00:14:00.919 it so they could merge together. It absolutely was a win. 255 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:02.539 It would have been a victory. And they didn't want 256 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:05.460 to have victories in this movie. And if you think 257 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:07.860 about it, there's nothing else there that you can call 258 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:10.950 a victory. I mean, yes, some of the Avengers happen 259 00:14:10.990 --> 00:14:13.269 to survive, but it's not a victory to me. That's 260 00:14:13.289 --> 00:14:17.809 just the way it breaks down to half and half. 261 00:14:19.809 --> 00:14:22.500 If they had let Hulk become Professor Hulk, Smart Hulk, 262 00:14:22.509 --> 00:14:24.559 whatever you want to call him, that's a win in 263 00:14:24.580 --> 00:14:26.559 the middle of all the chaos and the loss? I 264 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.440 don't know. I think I agree with the decision. I understand, though, 265 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.820 why people wanted to see more. People are confused how 266 00:14:33.860 --> 00:14:36.830 Thanos beat Hulk so quickly. To me, I chalk that 267 00:14:36.870 --> 00:14:41.240 up to Thanos is probably– close in ballpark to Hulk strength. 268 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.299 I don't think he's as strong, but strong enough add 269 00:14:44.340 --> 00:14:46.879 to it, his superior fighting skills, which he shows in that, 270 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.159 that he was able to win, you know, it's not 271 00:14:49.179 --> 00:14:51.559 that big a deal to me. The only real downside 272 00:14:51.580 --> 00:14:54.470 to this is that one shot of Banner's head sticking 273 00:14:54.500 --> 00:14:57.090 out of the whole cluster that just looks a bit 274 00:14:57.169 --> 00:14:59.970 wonky CGI wise that everybody likes to always post and 275 00:14:59.990 --> 00:15:01.690 bring up. Yeah. 276 00:15:01.710 --> 00:15:05.090 You know, floating Mark Ruffalo had it, you know, I. 277 00:15:05.490 --> 00:15:07.269 Go back and forth on it. Like every other time 278 00:15:07.330 --> 00:15:10.149 I see that picture, uh, it's like it comes down 279 00:15:10.190 --> 00:15:12.110 to the quality of the gif or whatever i'm looking 280 00:15:12.169 --> 00:15:14.129 at because i'm like in this one it doesn't look 281 00:15:14.149 --> 00:15:16.049 that bad but that one it looks really bad and 282 00:15:16.610 --> 00:15:18.840 in the grand scheme of things like that's the shot 283 00:15:18.860 --> 00:15:20.799 that's the one shot that people seem to point out 284 00:15:20.899 --> 00:15:21.860 fine you can have it. 285 00:15:22.259 --> 00:15:24.919 Yeah and it's very interesting you know in the sense 286 00:15:24.940 --> 00:15:26.519 of like when you talk about the stones at that 287 00:15:26.580 --> 00:15:30.769 point the

difference of the stones versus uh what they 288 00:15:30.809 --> 00:15:33.149 have in the mcu you know the original color is 289 00:15:33.889 --> 00:15:37.639 are the soul's green, time is orange, space is purple, 290 00:15:37.740 --> 00:15:40.559 mind is blue, reality is yellow, and power is red. 291 00:15:40.580 --> 00:15:44.320 The MCU, they go soul is orange, time is green, 292 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:48.539 space is blue, mind is yellow, reality red, and power 293 00:15:48.659 --> 00:15:49.230 is purple. 294 00:15:49.889 --> 00:15:52.639 Yeah, and I never really understood why they changed it. 295 00:15:52.649 --> 00:15:56.740 I've heard explanations, but I never really... I don't remember 296 00:15:56.769 --> 00:15:58.080 what they were off the top of my head. And 297 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.419 I think it was just one of those things that 298 00:16:00.460 --> 00:16:03.419 the stones they were using earlier, they liked the colors 299 00:16:03.460 --> 00:16:06.000 and the way the colors looked in the movie production process. 300 00:16:06.379 --> 00:16:08.399 So they changed them and then they just had to 301 00:16:08.419 --> 00:16:10.399 deal with it by the time they got to all 302 00:16:10.419 --> 00:16:13.759 the others. That's the, that's to my recollection what it is, 303 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:15.720 but I could be forgetting something there. 304 00:16:15.740 --> 00:16:18.059 And now in the comics, like they're the stones are 305 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:19.179 now living people. 306 00:16:20.659 --> 00:16:21.519 What issue is that in? 307 00:16:22.580 --> 00:16:26.730 Oh, that's a whole thing at that point. They're embodimental. 308 00:16:26.769 --> 00:16:31.409 Well, clearly I haven't read those. What storyline is that? Avengers? 309 00:16:31.549 --> 00:16:36.429 X-Men? No. Avengers, like, I'm trying to look at mine. Well, 310 00:16:36.450 --> 00:16:37.789 I want to get it right at that point. 311 00:16:37.870 --> 00:16:38.409 Okay, okay. 312 00:16:38.470 --> 00:16:39.870 I gotcha. 313 00:16:40.049 --> 00:16:42.190 I'll find out later. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. 314 00:16:42.269 --> 00:16:43.350 It'll come to me at that point. 315 00:16:43.470 --> 00:16:47.330 But I haven't read those. So that's something that's, you know, 316 00:16:47.570 --> 00:16:50.769 embodiment of, like, Okay, sure. 317 00:16:51.070 --> 00:16:52.230 A little homework for you, right? 318 00:16:52.250 --> 00:16:54.720 Sure. I don't mind that. 319 00:16:54.860 --> 00:16:58.679 You know, you're getting, you know, Incredible Hulk being, you know, 320 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.409 Loki dying at that point. Did you really think that 321 00:17:02.450 --> 00:17:05.329 was it for Tom Hiddleston? I, so here's the thing 322 00:17:05.450 --> 00:17:05.829 I did. 323 00:17:05.849 --> 00:17:08.950 I did think that one, there hadn't been a peep 324 00:17:09.029 --> 00:17:12.690 of rumors about what would become the Loki TV show that, 325 00:17:13.049 --> 00:17:17.299 that the variant of the character would survive too. I 326 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.980 went into this movie expecting this to be the last 327 00:17:20.019 --> 00:17:24.680 time I saw some of these characters. And technically it 328 00:17:24.700 --> 00:17:27.079 really hasn't come to pass, right? We got a variant 329 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.599 of Loki. We've got a variant of Gamora running around 330 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.289 right now. Um, And even Heimdall we saw in the 331 00:17:33.329 --> 00:17:37.710 credit scene of Thor, Love and Thunder. But I expected 332 00:17:37.750 --> 00:17:41.130 it to be the final, final take on some of 333 00:17:41.170 --> 00:17:44.109 these characters. And so, yes, when, when they killed Loki 334 00:17:44.130 --> 00:17:46.930 and they said no resurrections this time, when Thanos says that, 335 00:17:47.309 --> 00:17:50.390 I absolutely thought that he, he was done. And he's 336 00:17:50.430 --> 00:17:52.470 not the only character I thought was going to bite 337 00:17:52.490 --> 00:17:54.029 it in this movie who turned out didn't. 338 00:17:54.049 --> 00:17:59.500 Yeah. And it's, It was just one of those moments like, 339 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:03.220 oh my gosh, he really does look dead. It just 340 00:18:03.329 --> 00:18:04.509 doesn't seem possible. 341 00:18:05.809 --> 00:18:08.450 Yeah, they did a really good job on that makeup. 342 00:18:08.490 --> 00:18:10.829 He looks disgusting, frankly. 343 00:18:11.630 --> 00:18:16.569 And you get Heimdall saving Hulk before Thanos pulls the chip. 344 00:18:17.430 --> 00:18:21.410 I didn't think that Thor was going to bite it 345 00:18:21.450 --> 00:18:22.970 in that sequence. 346 00:18:22.990 --> 00:18:24.450 No, Thor I thought was safe. 347 00:18:25.769 --> 00:18:34.119 But when Hulk crashes down into you know after Thanos 348 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:37.230 has that one stone but he basically what I did 349 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.279 appreciate in the sense of Thanos beating Hulk is that 350 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.680 he beats him without a stone like he's trying to 351 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.460 prove like it's to really establish that even the quote 352 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:51.059 unquote biggest baddest you know creature that we have in 353 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:54.559 the MCU he can't beat Thanos. 354 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.259 As Ebony Moth says let him have his fun Yeah, exactly. 355 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.579 And yeah, there's people saying he used the stone, that 356 00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:04.019 he had the stone so he was powered up by it. No, 357 00:19:04.579 --> 00:19:07.619 every other time in the movie, the stones flare when 358 00:19:07.660 --> 00:19:10.480 he uses them. They didn't miss it this one time. 359 00:19:10.819 --> 00:19:13.519 He did that with himself. I like at this opening 360 00:19:13.579 --> 00:19:17.589 how Heimdall, you mentioned Heimdall, he uses his dark magic. 361 00:19:17.619 --> 00:19:19.480 He says

something like, let the dark magic flow through me. 362 00:19:19.849 --> 00:19:22.430 Shoots Hulk off to what ends up being the Sanctum Sanctorum. 363 00:19:22.869 --> 00:19:26.029 That's basically replicating what happens to Silver Surfer in the 364 00:19:26.069 --> 00:19:29.119 Infinity Gauntlet comic books. where silver surfer comes crashing down 365 00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:32.119 into and on basically dr strange's. 366 00:19:31.779 --> 00:19:36.259 Lab um so it's you know i like these these 367 00:19:36.339 --> 00:19:39.359 explanations these ideas that we kind of get for the 368 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:42.130 it's almost like again it's like everyone's first comic so 369 00:19:42.170 --> 00:19:44.849 what if this is their first movie you know didn't 370 00:19:44.890 --> 00:19:47.599 see or didn't see enough of the movies Wong basically 371 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.019 reestablishes what the the Infinity Stones are and how they 372 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:51.740 come about. 373 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:53.759 Yeah and you know you got to get a little 374 00:19:53.779 --> 00:19:55.579 bit you got to catch up catch up the normal 375 00:19:55.619 --> 00:19:58.460 people who don't go see all these movies repeatedly over 376 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:00.000 and over and over again the way that we do 377 00:20:00.819 --> 00:20:01.160 you got. 378 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:04.349 To have that moment yeah and it helps but especially 379 00:20:04.369 --> 00:20:08.160 for someone like Tony Stark who you know This is 380 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:10.069 kind of like, eh, not sure about that. 381 00:20:10.670 --> 00:20:13.730 Yeah, I mean, he had a little bit of interaction 382 00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:17.730 with a couple stones, but he didn't have the experience 383 00:20:17.750 --> 00:20:19.369 with all of them. He doesn't have the knowledge about 384 00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:22.190 them that the Guardians have. He didn't get the spiel 385 00:20:22.230 --> 00:20:25.220 the Guardians did from the Collector. And note the Guardians 386 00:20:25.339 --> 00:20:27.119 didn't get a spiel on what the stones were all 387 00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:30.519 about because they already knew. But Tony Stark had never 388 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.019 had that story given to him, and so he was 389 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:36.380 able to get that. Which also serves to catch up 390 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:37.269 the audience, like I said. 391 00:20:38.029 --> 00:20:43.009 And especially where, you know, where Bruce doesn't know what 392 00:20:43.069 --> 00:20:44.970 happened with Civil War. He was gone at that point, 393 00:20:45.029 --> 00:20:48.190 finding out that the Avengers are over, the Avengers are done. 394 00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:51.430 And mainly because, you know, a lot of other things, 395 00:20:51.470 --> 00:20:53.210 but because Tony won't pick up the phone and ask 396 00:20:53.250 --> 00:20:53.589 for help. 397 00:20:54.349 --> 00:20:57.240 Yeah. And he says something like, I don't care who 398 00:20:57.259 --> 00:21:00.380 you're mad at. Like you call, everybody calls and you know, 399 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:02.700 he would find that, find that phone in the rubble 400 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:06.309 after that opening, opening shot there. And, uh, After Iron 401 00:21:06.329 --> 00:21:09.779 Man and Spider-Man go flying off into space, Bruce does 402 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.599 find this and call Steve. But I would have liked 403 00:21:12.619 --> 00:21:14.240 to have seen what Steve would have had to say 404 00:21:14.259 --> 00:21:17.220 to that. His reaction would have been to Bruce being 405 00:21:17.259 --> 00:21:18.220 on the other end of that phone. 406 00:21:20.450 --> 00:21:23.650 Yeah, and the idea of like, hey, I kind of 407 00:21:23.670 --> 00:21:24.170 need your help. 408 00:21:24.250 --> 00:21:26.599 There's aliens. Oh, there's always aliens. 409 00:21:26.690 --> 00:21:29.319 Oh, this is the alien at that point to come 410 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:31.200 down and take us all down. 411 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.539 Exactly. You know, New York, that was Loki. Like, the 412 00:21:35.579 --> 00:21:39.000 guy behind him, that's who is attacking. Now, but let's 413 00:21:39.019 --> 00:21:40.990 be real. If that had been our intro to Steve, 414 00:21:41.009 --> 00:21:45.730 it would have been a far less cool moment than 415 00:21:45.769 --> 00:21:47.990 when he came in to save Wanda and Vision, right? 416 00:21:48.660 --> 00:21:50.799 who were being attacked by two of the Black Order. 417 00:21:51.420 --> 00:21:56.170 Yeah, and I love the little thing when Tony questions 418 00:21:56.210 --> 00:21:58.890 Doctor Strange saying, what is your job exactly besides making 419 00:21:58.930 --> 00:22:01.849 a balloon animal? It's a direct reference to when Benedict 420 00:22:01.869 --> 00:22:04.970 Cumberbatch did a skit on Jimmy Came Alive back in 421 00:22:04.970 --> 00:22:08.930 2016 promoting Doctor Strange. In the skit, Jimmy has invited 422 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.299 Doctor Strange to a kid's birthday party, assuming that he 423 00:22:11.339 --> 00:22:14.779 can use his magic to entertain the kids. Strange then agreed, 424 00:22:15.380 --> 00:22:16.960 And in one part of the skit, trying to make 425 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:19.680 a balloon animal for one of the kids attending the party. 426 00:22:20.849 --> 00:22:22.740 I have never seen that. I need to look that up. 427 00:22:23.089 --> 00:22:24.609 Yeah, there you go. Got some homework tonight. 428 00:22:25.589 --> 00:22:29.650 So Wanda and Vision. This was, I mean, there's like 429 00:22:29.670 --> 00:22:32.990 hints of it in, I think there's very subtle hints 430 00:22:33.029 --> 00:22:35.339 of it in Ultron. There's a bit more in Civil War. 431 00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:38.000 This is the first movie where they really dive into 432 00:22:38.019 --> 00:22:40.640 the fact like, no, these two are a couple. And 433 00:22:40.660 --> 00:22:42.779 I do remember some

people being weirded out by that 434 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.890 because it's like, everyone remembers he's a robot, right? And 435 00:22:45.910 --> 00:22:47.529 it's like, oh yeah, we're used to that though. It's, 436 00:22:47.549 --> 00:22:49.369 you know, comic books, we were used to that pairing 437 00:22:49.410 --> 00:22:51.750 for a long time, but I do remember some people 438 00:22:51.809 --> 00:22:56.730 being a little weirded out by that. I, but, but again, it's, it's, 439 00:22:56.819 --> 00:22:58.079 it's very comic accurate. 440 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:04.039 She's, she's not necessarily, she finds someone that could accept 441 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.400 her for who she is and not be afraid of her. 442 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:08.640 And it happens to be a synthetic, you know? 443 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:10.839 Yeah, exactly right. 444 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.660 But the, the, how visceral it is, the, the attack 445 00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:20.140 on them. You know, I think it's even more just 446 00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:22.819 because of how we're like, wait a minute, he's hurting vision. 447 00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:25.759 You know, the visions in real trouble there. 448 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:28.599 Yeah. And he, there's like, this isn't supposed to be 449 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.160 able to happen, but you know, they, I mean, the 450 00:23:31.180 --> 00:23:33.910 black order is powerful enough. They're able to disrupt his 451 00:23:33.970 --> 00:23:38.950 phasing and stab him. And he is, he is injured. Like, 452 00:23:40.009 --> 00:23:43.190 A real person. Like, he is actually injured. And he's 453 00:23:43.269 --> 00:23:46.130 not the same the whole rest of the movie. He's 454 00:23:46.230 --> 00:23:48.009 never at full power again the rest of the movie. 455 00:23:48.349 --> 00:23:51.390 I liked how that stayed with him. Yeah. 456 00:23:51.670 --> 00:23:57.559 And just how, you know, again, it reminds us exactly, like, 457 00:23:57.660 --> 00:24:00.700 that's what the stone is that he has. Because it's 458 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:02.299 one of those things I always seem to forget with 459 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.259 Vision in the MCU at that point. 460 00:24:05.660 --> 00:24:07.200 Yeah. And he had the Mind Stone at that point. 461 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.680 Mm-hmm. Well, what did you think of that? 462 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.079 That moment where they're at the train station, they look 463 00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:14.640 like they're down at that point. Vengeance is going to 464 00:24:14.660 --> 00:24:17.400 be taken out and you just, they're looking out in 465 00:24:17.420 --> 00:24:20.400 the shadows. They see something and it's, it's Steve Rogers, man. 466 00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:22.380 It's just such a cool moment. 467 00:24:22.819 --> 00:24:25.700 Absolutely. It's a great moment. You know, approximate midnight trucks 468 00:24:25.789 --> 00:24:29.509 or spear or whatever it's called Adam. And she's like, 469 00:24:30.029 --> 00:24:33.170 she's ready to face off with Wanda. The train comes 470 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:35.849 and you get a flicker of Steve Rogers silhouette. And 471 00:24:35.910 --> 00:24:38.150 she immediately is like, no, this person's a bigger threat 472 00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:41.299 than Wanda. Now, I might take take, you know, make 473 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:43.819 a little bit of disagreement there with her assessment because 474 00:24:43.980 --> 00:24:48.950 it's Wanda. But regardless, you understand why she would immediately 475 00:24:48.990 --> 00:24:51.390 assume him as a threat. And that little fight, you know, 476 00:24:51.410 --> 00:24:54.289 we get that we get the Avengers theme. Steve shows up. 477 00:24:54.349 --> 00:24:57.490 Sam shows up. Natasha shows up and combined like the 478 00:24:57.539 --> 00:25:00.460 way that they're working together. They take them out. No problem. 479 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.500 Just run them off. And then I did enjoy Natasha 480 00:25:03.539 --> 00:25:06.529 chastising Wanda for like, hey, you know. We said you 481 00:25:06.549 --> 00:25:08.349 weren't going to do it this way, right? Like, you 482 00:25:08.369 --> 00:25:09.190 need to stay in touch. 483 00:25:09.670 --> 00:25:11.950 Yeah, especially like, you know, you're supposed to check in. 484 00:25:11.970 --> 00:25:13.849 This is what happens. 485 00:25:14.390 --> 00:25:16.440 You have vision. You need to check in with us. 486 00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:21.059 You got a living, breathing Infinity Stone walking around at 487 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:26.779 that point. So they're able to get rescued at that point. And, 488 00:25:28.259 --> 00:25:29.819 you know, they need to find a place for it. 489 00:25:29.819 --> 00:25:32.319 And so we know where they're heading to in order 490 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:33.349 to find a safe place. 491 00:25:33.980 --> 00:25:36.049 Well, yeah, they make a comment about going home and 492 00:25:36.069 --> 00:25:38.049 they do check in with Rhodey and stuff. But then 493 00:25:38.069 --> 00:25:40.529 the real place where they go, where they're really going 494 00:25:40.549 --> 00:25:43.250 to do the real work is Wakanda. Yeah. 495 00:25:43.369 --> 00:25:44.769 You know, it was a nice day to check in 496 00:25:44.789 --> 00:25:46.750 with Rhodey or, you know, maybe Scrotty. 497 00:25:46.809 --> 00:25:47.269 We don't know. 498 00:25:47.289 --> 00:25:52.660 I think we'll find it's Rhodey. But I hope so. Regardless, 499 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.779 what I like about that moment when they cut to Wakanda, 500 00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.839 before they cut there visually, you hear the music and 501 00:25:59.859 --> 00:26:03.259 the crowd popped. for this. Like those, that opening weekend crowd, 502 00:26:03.299 --> 00:26:06.180 like they were excited about this one. And that, that 503 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:09.099 was a, a cheer point. I, I, if I remember right, 504 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.339 I want to say there

was one of my opening 505 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.519 weekend shows, which I saw five times opening weekend. I 506 00:26:13.779 --> 00:26:16.410 think there was one that didn't really cheer for that part, 507 00:26:16.450 --> 00:26:19.029 which means Marvel did place a little bit of a 508 00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:21.269 bet on that. Like, you know, with the emphasis on 509 00:26:21.289 --> 00:26:24.349 Wakanda in this movie coming out so close to black Panther, 510 00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:27.420 like you said, the production, there was that two week 511 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:31.009 break between production cycles and, but it paid off for 512 00:26:31.049 --> 00:26:33.799 him because Wakanda was such a great set piece. And 513 00:26:33.819 --> 00:26:38.380 the black Panther movie was so hugely popular that going 514 00:26:38.420 --> 00:26:40.079 right back to that theme. I loved it. 515 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.710 Yeah. It's, it's, you know, you can't just argue with it. 516 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:45.680 It just, it gives you chills and it gets you excited. 517 00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:48.299 You know, it does. And, you know, they, they remind 518 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.170 us that, Oh yeah, the white wolf is there. You know, 519 00:26:50.210 --> 00:26:52.309 that they've only called him that like what one other 520 00:26:52.349 --> 00:26:54.849 time in the Falcon and winter soldier show, but they, 521 00:26:54.950 --> 00:26:57.390 they bring out Bucky brings him an arm and, Oh, 522 00:26:57.410 --> 00:26:59.779 you know, when it wins the fight on its way. Like, 523 00:26:59.900 --> 00:27:02.460 I just I love that. Yeah. 524 00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:05.900 And, you know, when they do make it to Wakanda, 525 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:11.029 I do love the line where Bruce starts bowing and 526 00:27:11.069 --> 00:27:11.849 he's like, no, no, no, no. 527 00:27:11.910 --> 00:27:12.849 We don't do that. 528 00:27:12.890 --> 00:27:15.130 We don't do that here. We don't do that here. Yes, 529 00:27:15.190 --> 00:27:17.250 that is. That is a quote that I think of 530 00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:19.430 probably at least once a week, if I'm being honest. 531 00:27:19.990 --> 00:27:22.960 Look, look, more colonizers, more colonizers. 532 00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:25.970 That's right. you know, when you said we were going 533 00:27:25.990 --> 00:27:27.750 to open the world, this isn't what I was thinking. 534 00:27:28.009 --> 00:27:29.890 Not maybe a Starbucks. 535 00:27:31.029 --> 00:27:33.410 Yeah. Something, something we could do, not like bring war 536 00:27:33.450 --> 00:27:34.019 to our people. 537 00:27:34.380 --> 00:27:38.339 Right. Right. I think there's room to debate there. If 538 00:27:38.420 --> 00:27:40.759 black Panther did the right thing by opening, you know, 539 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.059 section 17, did he open the, do you do the 540 00:27:43.099 --> 00:27:45.700 right thing? I mean, we'll never know at this point, 541 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.480 but you can make an argument that they could have 542 00:27:48.509 --> 00:27:50.789 just split their forces and sent some people back to 543 00:27:50.809 --> 00:27:53.269 go help protect vision. But I see where they're coming from. 544 00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:53.849 Yeah. 545 00:27:54.849 --> 00:27:57.769 Um, you know, when we get to like the, you know, 546 00:27:57.809 --> 00:27:59.250 we go back and forth, you know, I don't know, 547 00:27:59.509 --> 00:28:01.349 we're probably not going to talk about every single aspect 548 00:28:01.390 --> 00:28:01.950 of this movie. 549 00:28:02.230 --> 00:28:04.710 So forgive us. It's, it is a very long movie 550 00:28:04.730 --> 00:28:05.369 in that sense. 551 00:28:05.450 --> 00:28:05.650 Sure. 552 00:28:06.049 --> 00:28:08.950 You know, but what is, I think one of the 553 00:28:09.029 --> 00:28:12.049 interesting things is like, we're able to figure out like 554 00:28:12.369 --> 00:28:17.440 really what every stone can do, but it's still very 555 00:28:17.579 --> 00:28:19.740 vague on the, the soul stone itself. 556 00:28:21.019 --> 00:28:25.589 Soul for a soul. Right. And, uh, It was definitely a, 557 00:28:27.130 --> 00:28:30.529 that's probably the one that's the most ambiguous, but the 558 00:28:30.569 --> 00:28:33.920 soul stone is stuck on Vormir. The stone keeper is 559 00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:37.740 the red skull. And he's, he's basically there one to 560 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:39.420 blow our minds. Cause we didn't think we were seeing 561 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.940 the red school again. Yeah. Two. And Ross Marquand did 562 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.029 a great Hugo weaving impression there too. He's there to 563 00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:50.109 basically info dump that if you want this, you have 564 00:28:50.150 --> 00:28:53.240 to give up something you truly love. And turns out 565 00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:56.619 Thanos in his own sick and twisted way does truly 566 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:01.130 love Gamora. And he just eats her right off of those, 567 00:29:01.650 --> 00:29:04.289 right off of that cliff. They're killing her. But I. 568 00:29:06.430 --> 00:29:06.650 Agree. 569 00:29:06.670 --> 00:29:10.069 Like the soul. So it is the most, it's questionable 570 00:29:10.109 --> 00:29:12.640 because at the, at the end of end game, we 571 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.880 to jump ahead real quick, like way ahead. We know 572 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.259 that cap goes back in time to return all the 573 00:29:18.299 --> 00:29:19.819 stones to trim all the branches. 574 00:29:19.940 --> 00:29:20.140 Right. 575 00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:23.519 We don't know. We can see what that looks like 576 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:25.420 for the other stones. He just puts it back where 577 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.470 they took it. What does that look like for the 578 00:29:28.509 --> 00:29:31.109 soul stone when they put it back with what happens 579 00:29:31.170 --> 00:29:34.809 to Natasha in that movie? So

we don't know. It's 580 00:29:34.849 --> 00:29:38.329 just not clear about how that one works. And honestly, 581 00:29:38.430 --> 00:29:41.119 I wouldn't be surprised if... I wouldn't be surprised if 582 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.960 we never find out like until the MCU is full 583 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.500 on rebooted into a whole new incarnation that they just 584 00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:51.119 don't revisit it unless they want to bring Black Widow's 585 00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:55.140 Natasha back that would the 616 sacred timeline one just 586 00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:57.009 to be clear I think that's the only way they 587 00:29:57.089 --> 00:29:58.490 ever revisit what it means. 588 00:29:58.829 --> 00:30:03.440 Yeah And especially, you know, when they're trying to like 589 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.279 bay ahead of all the stones at that point. Well, even, 590 00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:08.880 you know, it's one thing we totally forgotten going way back. 591 00:30:09.339 --> 00:30:12.259 We bounced back like, all right, we get, you know, 592 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.799 Spider-Man joining into the fight at that point. And as 593 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.900 the ship's going up, you know, he's not able to survive, 594 00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:21.460 but we get a new version. We get the iron, 595 00:30:21.619 --> 00:30:24.559 the MCU's version of the iron spider suit. What did 596 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:25.059 you think of that? 597 00:30:26.299 --> 00:30:28.759 Yeah, I like the Iron Spider suit from the comic 598 00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:31.400 books more. Let's call it what it is. I do 599 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.940 think there's a couple shots that are a little weird 600 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.730 looking actually of it, but it works for me overall. 601 00:30:36.789 --> 00:30:41.150 It does work for me overall. It's not the suit 602 00:30:41.170 --> 00:30:42.930 I would want to be his everyday suit. I wouldn't 603 00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:47.019 want it to be the suit he's wearing all the time. But... 604 00:30:47.730 --> 00:30:49.309 We see it again in Far From Home. We even 605 00:30:49.349 --> 00:30:51.269 saw it again in No Way Home. I like the 606 00:30:51.289 --> 00:30:53.210 way they used him in those movies where it wasn't 607 00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:55.650 the only suit he wore. It's not my favorite of his, 608 00:30:55.930 --> 00:30:58.069 but it works. I do enjoy the joke about it 609 00:30:58.109 --> 00:31:00.789 being a new car in here. And when the arms 610 00:31:00.849 --> 00:31:03.049 pop out, saving him from getting sucked out into the 611 00:31:03.109 --> 00:31:04.990 void of space, that was a pretty cool moment. 612 00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:06.119 Yeah, I know. 613 00:31:06.130 --> 00:31:09.539 It definitely is. I do like the Iron Spider suit 614 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.910 in the comics, but I like the... how they were 615 00:31:14.069 --> 00:31:18.230 able you can't argue with the how they incorporate the 616 00:31:18.309

--> 00:31:20.759 red the blue and just the accents of gold in 617 00:31:20.779 --> 00:31:25.599 it like i i i will lean towards mcu's iron 618 00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:29.750 spider suit versus versus the comics just because it still 619 00:31:29.869 --> 00:31:33.109 holds on to spidey's red and blue it. 620 00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:35.750 Does and it In the comics, it's red and gold. 621 00:31:35.789 --> 00:31:37.470 It's very Iron Man heavy. 622 00:31:37.809 --> 00:31:38.309 For reasons. 623 00:31:38.329 --> 00:31:40.690 Well, yeah, because Iron Man built it. But it's very, 624 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.460 very Iron Man heavy. And I do enjoy that scene 625 00:31:43.500 --> 00:31:46.440 when Iron Man calls it. He offered it to Peter 626 00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:49.759 at the end of Homecoming. Peter said no. At this point, 627 00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:52.440 he doesn't give Peter the choice. You are wearing this 628 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.920 thing right now. And it's a good thing he did. Yeah. 629 00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:57.900 And it was really cool. 630 00:31:57.980 --> 00:32:02.740 And they get– I want to talk about so many 631 00:32:02.779 --> 00:32:07.009 different things about this. i i really do like how 632 00:32:07.109 --> 00:32:09.849 the guardians facing thanos really for the first time and 633 00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:14.019 the destruction of nowhere and the collectors do like it 634 00:32:14.099 --> 00:32:19.460 really shows that peter and the guardians do not cannot 635 00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:22.299 stand toe-to-toe even with thanos like we knew they couldn't 636 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.559 do it now they really made it look silly. 637 00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:27.579 Right it does look silly and really the guardians in 638 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.630 this this movie like they're they don't feel like the 639 00:32:30.670 --> 00:32:33.569 main characters of the movie, but I mean, Gamora and 640 00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:36.349 stuff like, but like as a collective, like the Avengers 641 00:32:36.410 --> 00:32:39.480 are still quote unquote more important, I feel, but there's 642 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:40.920 a lot of fun stuff with the guardians. 643 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:41.579 Oh yeah. 644 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.700 And that's, that's part of it. I mean, there's, well, 645 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.740 we definitely need to talk about the stuff, the team 646 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.579 that goes to Titan, but prior to that, their interactions 647 00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:54.619 with Thor, especially rocket and rocket and Thor, and we'll 648 00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:56.230 rock it and grew it to a lesser extent when 649 00:32:56.269 --> 00:32:59.230 those three go off together and, to Neville Lear, which 650 00:32:59.299 --> 00:33:03.019 is a made up word to when they go off 651 00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:06.259 together and just the conversation they have, the seriousness of 652 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.640 which they have rocket giving him the eye, which he 653 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:11.759 had to smuggle out in his, well, we, he doesn't 654 00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:15.170 tell us what we can infer it. I love those 655 00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:18.769 interactions so much, but nothing makes me laugh more. And no, 656 00:33:18.809 --> 00:33:20.910 it's not the funniest movie, but one of the biggest laughs, 657 00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:23.029 like the biggest laugh in this movie. And one of 658 00:33:23.049 --> 00:33:25.049 the biggest laughs in the entire MCU for me is, 659 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.140 is when the Guardians first rescue Thor. When they first 660 00:33:28.180 --> 00:33:31.390 pull him in and the reaction to everybody else looking 661 00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:34.309 at him, this is not a dude, this is a man. 662 00:33:34.329 --> 00:33:37.329 It looks like a pirate had a baby with an angel. 663 00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:41.250 Just the way that they go on and on about it, 664 00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:45.079 I absolutely adore that scene. So the Guardians in this 665 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.119 have some great interactions and it did not disappoint between 666 00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.039 seeing them with Thor and then later seeing them with 667 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:51.740 the team on Titan. 668 00:33:53.089 --> 00:33:57.109 And just like you said, the interactions where he it's 669 00:33:57.150 --> 00:34:00.269 more than even just that, like how Star-Lord like tries 670 00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:02.569 to act bigger around them. This is how I always 671 00:34:02.670 --> 00:34:05.869 talk at that point and how he, you know, Thor 672 00:34:05.910 --> 00:34:09.090 calls Rocket Rabbit and that he considers the captains like 673 00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:12.909 it's everything that Rocket assumed like he should be looked 674 00:34:12.949 --> 00:34:13.869 at as being in charge. 675 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:15.070 Absolutely. Yes. 676 00:34:15.389 --> 00:34:15.590 So. 677 00:34:16.989 --> 00:34:18.969 I mean, he's clearly the smartest among them, so. 678 00:34:18.989 --> 00:34:19.309 Mm hmm. 679 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.449 Yes. And just, you know, I guess while we're talking 680 00:34:23.489 --> 00:34:29.329 about them, when they do reform Stormbreaker and like looking 681 00:34:29.650 --> 00:34:33.510 at like even Groot, like it catches Groot's attention, like 682 00:34:33.570 --> 00:34:36.230 Thor catches Groot's attention, who spends the whole time otherwise 683 00:34:36.289 --> 00:34:40.429 playing his video games and. when thor is dying and 684 00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:43.590 e tree is yelling tree tree find find the axe 685 00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:45.519 you know help me or find the handle help me 686 00:34:45.539 --> 00:34:47.559 find the handle he's just like i got your handle 687 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.199 right here and gives him part of his arm i'm 688 00:34:50.219 --> 00:34:53.280 like such a cool moment with with the with the 689 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.690 team they're

getting stormbreaker. 690 00:34:57.650 --> 00:35:00.550 And and just like it's one of those things that 691 00:35:00.570 --> 00:35:03.059 i had a huge theory going into endgame that E3 692 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:07.219 would be coming back into Endgame and reforming a different 693 00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:08.179 gauntlet for them. 694 00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:09.539 I was close. 695 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:11.699 It wasn't E3, but they. 696 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.519 Partial credit, for sure. Partial credit. You were right. Another 697 00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:20.099 gauntlet would absolutely come into play. Just not from E3 himself. 698 00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:25.820 Speaking of the Guardians with the team on Titan, you know, 699 00:35:25.940 --> 00:35:30.449 strange Spider-Man and Iron Man meeting up with them. I 700 00:35:30.510 --> 00:35:36.809 really enjoy it when... when they're basically talking to, to 701 00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:40.530 Star-Lord and it's like, where are you from? Are you 702 00:35:40.550 --> 00:35:43.090 from earth? I'm not from earth. I'm from Missouri doing 703 00:35:43.139 --> 00:35:47.380 all this stuff. I just, the interactions between them and 704 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.460 the way that they talk to each other and the 705 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.519 way that they interacted with each other, the annoyance that 706 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.730 Tony has from Star-Lord and the way Star-Lord does it, 707 00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.530 like the comments about the people yawning and stuff in 708 00:35:59.550 --> 00:36:02.429 the middle of their, their planning session. It all just 709 00:36:02.510 --> 00:36:05.289 works for me so, so well. Yeah. 710 00:36:05.409 --> 00:36:10.130 And that interaction just shows that even Tony can recognize 711 00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.110 like he deals with Peter. He understands he's a kid, 712 00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:14.510 but like he's looking at these adults and saying like 713 00:36:14.570 --> 00:36:18.190 what he thinks are adults and like you're a bunch 714 00:36:18.230 --> 00:36:22.210 of man children and women children. Like you don't you 715 00:36:22.250 --> 00:36:25.750 don't you're you're you're at the kids table still. Let 716 00:36:25.789 --> 00:36:29.730 the adults talk, you know, the wizard and I and 717 00:36:30.130 --> 00:36:31.170 and let's figure this out. 718 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.670 Yeah, especially like endearing this stuff like Mantis is in 719 00:36:35.690 --> 00:36:38.210 the background just jumping around, playing and everything like that. 720 00:36:38.250 --> 00:36:42.230 So absolutely. And there is one thing I didn't mention 721 00:36:42.250 --> 00:36:45.369 with Guardians and the group on Titan is at one 722 00:36:45.429 --> 00:36:51.079 point when they established that everybody there knows Thor, Star-Lord 723 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.719 makes this comment of like, yeah, Thor, tall guy, not 724 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.800 that good looking. The look on Spider-Man's face when he 725 00:36:58.889 --> 00:37:01.880 says that, Gets me every time. Gets me every time. 726 00:37:01.940 --> 00:37:02.559 It's hysterical. 727 00:37:02.579 --> 00:37:04.199 He's like, what do you mean not that good looking? 728 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:04.599 He's Thor. 729 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:04.900 I know. 730 00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:10.760 And especially when I love Spider-Man also responding like, is 731 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.260 it still the greatest movie of all time? 732 00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:12.900 Never was. 733 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:14.940 It was never the greatest movie of all time. 734 00:37:15.739 --> 00:37:16.739 The hell you say? 735 00:37:18.699 --> 00:37:21.320 It's nice when you get even Peter saying, who is 736 00:37:21.380 --> 00:37:21.960 this Joker? 737 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:26.909 Yeah, who is this guy? So, of course, Thanos shows 738 00:37:27.070 --> 00:37:30.190 up and you know, it has a little conversation with Dr. 739 00:37:30.230 --> 00:37:33.510 Strange and then they throw down Thanos throws a moon. 740 00:37:33.570 --> 00:37:37.329 It's the regular stuff, but there's the fun stuff throughout 741 00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:42.920 this fight. But the important thing is Dr. Strange who later, 742 00:37:43.460 --> 00:37:46.960 who earlier, excuse me, had said, I will not hesitate 743 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.440 to let you or the kid die. If it comes between, 744 00:37:50.099 --> 00:37:53.179 between the time stone or your lives, he gives up 745 00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:55.420 the time stone specifically to save Iron Man's life. 746 00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:02.550 Because, That is the one way. 747 00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:05.559 14,605,000 views. And that is the one, the one way 748 00:38:05.579 --> 00:38:08.139 that he thinks they can win. It had to be 749 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.019 makes the comment. We're in the end game now. And 750 00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:14.800 there it is. There it is. Yeah. You know, even 751 00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:16.780 though they tried to claim and hide that title and 752 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.000 claim it wasn't there, it was right there. Leading us 753 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.510 back to Wakanda for, for the final, the final, you know, 754 00:38:24.179 --> 00:38:26.559 Little bit of I even hesitate to call it fighting 755 00:38:26.619 --> 00:38:28.820 because it really wasn't. It was Thanos walking in, doing 756 00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.929 what he wanted. But for the final conflict, if you will. 757 00:38:32.829 --> 00:38:35.130 And and, you know, even going back there, the fact 758 00:38:35.190 --> 00:38:39.309 that Stephen used the time stone for something that he 759 00:38:39.409 --> 00:38:42.880 really isn't supposed to do. But he recognizes in the 760 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.280 fact that how dire the situation is, like he is 761 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:49.800 willing to break the rules of the of the use 762 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.679 of the time

stone. and looking in impossible futures because 763 00:38:53.860 --> 00:38:55.179 it's that serious right now. 764 00:38:55.500 --> 00:38:57.119 Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. 765 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.599 But yeah, the, the, the battle in Wakanda with, you know, our, 766 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.150 our remaining earthbound players and just seeing, you know, it's, it, 767 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.019 I think the cool, one of the coolest moment is 768 00:39:08.059 --> 00:39:13.110 seeing Steve black Panther basically run into lead the charge 769 00:39:13.150 --> 00:39:15.809 at that point. And I do love that black Panther 770 00:39:15.869 --> 00:39:16.769 does have the edge. 771 00:39:17.929 --> 00:39:20.300 He has the edge. He'd also started a little bit higher. 772 00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:23.139 Like if you look, he did technically start farther up, 773 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.150 but it's his kingdom. It's effectively his army. He should 774 00:39:27.170 --> 00:39:28.050 be the one leading it. 775 00:39:28.050 --> 00:39:29.929 I mean, if they're not going to bow, they got, 776 00:39:30.070 --> 00:39:30.690 least give it to. 777 00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:32.340 Him right well they don't do that here but i 778 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.000 and i also know i was like and i've even 779 00:39:35.059 --> 00:39:37.219 questioned this before it's like why isn't bucky with them 780 00:39:37.539 --> 00:39:39.679 well bucky's not with because he's a bucky is a 781 00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:41.679 super soldier he can keep up with them but the 782 00:39:41.699 --> 00:39:43.699 reason he's not well it's because he's got a gun 783 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.280 he's he's fighting from a distance no i know people 784 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.940 still question that it's like well He can keep up 785 00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:51.500 with them. That's not what he's choosing to do. 786 00:39:52.219 --> 00:39:52.460 Yeah. 787 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.199 And in fact, it's just really cool to seeing, you know, 788 00:39:57.260 --> 00:40:00.530 I love seeing the Hulkbuster armor out against one of my, 789 00:40:00.789 --> 00:40:02.989 it's my favorite Iron Man suit. So getting that one 790 00:40:03.030 --> 00:40:07.010 more out there, but just like the amount of just 791 00:40:07.050 --> 00:40:11.250 the ongoing, like just these aliens is coming at, coming at, 792 00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:12.530 like it's an infinite amount. 793 00:40:12.550 --> 00:40:15.030 It's almost like there is no way they can win this. 794 00:40:15.849 --> 00:40:18.730 Oh yeah. There were way too many of the Outriders there. 795 00:40:19.300 --> 00:40:21.519 And the outright were willing to kill them. And in fact, 796 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.599 T'Challa had even said to Proxima Midnight, Thanos is only 797 00:40:26.619 --> 00:40:29.940 going to find dust and blood. And that's exactly what 798 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.260 they have. And Proxima Midnight says something like we have 799 00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:35.269 blood to spare as she starts sending the outriders through, 800 00:40:35.329 --> 00:40:38.329 forcing themselves through killing themselves until they can start to 801 00:40:38.349 --> 00:40:41.710 squeeze through, through the barrier. And well, the dust we, 802 00:40:41.869 --> 00:40:44.409 we know, of course they found lots of dust in Wakanda. 803 00:40:44.889 --> 00:40:45.150 Yeah. 804 00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:49.849 Um, And so when they get, you know, I, the 805 00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:53.780 moment that I just outright cheered out loud when it 806 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.380 happened was the arrival of Thor with Stormbreaker, Groot, and Rocket. 807 00:40:59.539 --> 00:41:04.440 And before he get, you know, Banner saying, oh, y'all 808 00:41:04.460 --> 00:41:05.639 are screwed now. 809 00:41:06.619 --> 00:41:08.849 It is just like him coming down at that key 810 00:41:08.889 --> 00:41:11.889 moment is like, yes, you know, just like. 811 00:41:12.409 --> 00:41:15.090 One of the great entrances in the entire MCU. 812 00:41:16.130 --> 00:41:17.090 Bring me Thanos. 813 00:41:17.619 --> 00:41:19.139 Bring me Thanos. I love that. And then they cut 814 00:41:19.179 --> 00:41:21.360 away and go back to Titan because, you know, they 815 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.780 are cutting back and forth between Wakanda and Titan during this, 816 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.199 but watching, I love how Rocket and Groot are just 817 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.960 chasing after Thor at that point, like just in the middle, 818 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.219 they're chasing after him. And then, you know, we, we 819 00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:36.840 get more of those fun pairings and stuff. Internet meme 820 00:41:36.909 --> 00:41:40.650 culture is satisfied with Rocket asking Bucky for his arm 821 00:41:40.690 --> 00:41:42.409 and makes a comment. Oh, I'm going to get that arm. 822 00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:47.480 And then, you know, we get the awesome, awesome team 823 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.760 up moment when Wanda is out on the field and she, 824 00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:53.599 Proxima Midnight tells her she's going to die alone. Vision's 825 00:41:53.619 --> 00:41:55.780 going to die alone just like she will. And you 826 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.840 hear Natasha say she's not alone. And then there's Black 827 00:41:58.860 --> 00:42:01.590 Widow and Okoye right there. And the three of them 828 00:42:01.889 --> 00:42:06.190 take on Proxima Midnight until Wanda kills her. So, so cool. 829 00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:08.409 And such a fun pairing of these group of characters. 830 00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:09.130 Oh, yeah. 831 00:42:09.170 --> 00:42:12.079 No, I think this was a very just interesting moment 832 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.809 with getting these, these characters fighting in different in this 833 00:42:15.849 --> 00:42:19.329 type of desperation situation um but then we head to 834 00:42:19.349 --> 00:42:22.010 the backwoods where you know

uh. 835 00:42:22.949 --> 00:42:24.780 Well even before that let's go back to. 836 00:42:24.739 --> 00:42:29.539 Titan where you know they're they're trying they come close 837 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:33.880 to taking off the gauntlet but of course um you 838 00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:38.480 know peter's concerned about gamora and when they've got their 839 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.989 plan and he's saying these things like you know what 840 00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:42.210 is it? 841 00:42:42.230 --> 00:42:44.469 Mantis saying he's in pain. He's in agony. 842 00:42:44.530 --> 00:42:49.480 He's mourning. And he's just makes a realization that, you know, 843 00:42:50.059 --> 00:42:54.199 Gamora is dead at that point. And Peter just can't, 844 00:42:55.070 --> 00:42:57.449 you know, not hit him and get it. 845 00:42:57.730 --> 00:42:59.690 It breaks the whole plan. That's why everyone's like, Oh, 846 00:42:59.730 --> 00:43:01.409 screw Peter. It's stupid. 847 00:43:01.449 --> 00:43:02.690 Does it, does it break the plan? 848 00:43:03.670 --> 00:43:04.630 Yeah, exactly. 849 00:43:04.849 --> 00:43:07.539 One, I would like to reiterate, Thanos could have been 850 00:43:07.699 --> 00:43:10.730 stopped several times throughout this movie if, as Steve puts it, 851 00:43:10.780 --> 00:43:13.119 the Avengers have been willing to trade lives. The only 852 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.059 one willing to do that was Peter Quill because he 853 00:43:16.139 --> 00:43:18.940 actually did try to kill Gamora at her wish. And 854 00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:22.650 obviously Thanos just turned it into bubbles, turned his gun 855 00:43:22.710 --> 00:43:26.489 into bubbles. But go back and look closely. The moment 856 00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:29.409 in which Thanos' eyes wake up and he snaps out 857 00:43:29.429 --> 00:43:31.929 of it is the moment the glove is coming off 858 00:43:31.969 --> 00:43:35.150 of his hand. Because he actually catches the glove with 859 00:43:35.190 --> 00:43:38.320 his fingers to keep control of it. That's the moment 860 00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:40.440 that snapped him out of it. I actually don't think 861 00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:43.679 it was Peter Quill doing it. Now, maybe I'm wrong. 862 00:43:43.699 --> 00:43:45.179 Maybe the screenwriters are going to come out and say, well, 863 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.340 that's what we wanted them to do. But I refuse 864 00:43:49.389 --> 00:43:52.869 to jump on the Peter screwed the universe bandwagon because 865 00:43:52.889 --> 00:43:56.389 I don't think it's his fault. I think it was 866 00:43:56.429 --> 00:43:59.809 the moment that they just ultimately they didn't get the 867 00:43:59.829 --> 00:44:02.400 glove off fast enough. And you could make an argument 868 00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:06.039 this gets into Loki territory and is this all a 869 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.159 free will situation or preordained? But if there was only 870 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.309 one way for them to win, they were never going 871

00:44:12.349 --> 00:44:13.409 to win that way anyway. 872 00:44:14.210 --> 00:44:17.769 Yeah, it's one of those– like you said, it was 873 00:44:17.809 --> 00:44:20.769 just– this had to happen. It had to play out. 874 00:44:20.829 --> 00:44:22.489 I mean the TVA let it play out, right? 875 00:44:22.989 --> 00:44:25.969 Right. And I don't accept– And, you know, even the 876 00:44:26.019 --> 00:44:28.420 TVA fine, they made that show afterwards. So the rules 877 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.699 changed for that. Okay. I'll buy that. But I don't 878 00:44:30.980 --> 00:44:33.360 like what, what to me, I can't square is that 879 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.179 people will accept strange saying there was only one way 880 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.219 he had to give up the time stone. He had 881 00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:43.570 to trade lives, right? There's only one way. And, or 882 00:44:43.690 --> 00:44:46.110 actually he didn't trade lives. That was the problem. But anyway, 883 00:44:46.130 --> 00:44:48.329 you get my point, but they don't accept the fact 884 00:44:48.349 --> 00:44:51.369 that if there was only one way, Thanos was always 885 00:44:51.389 --> 00:44:53.829 going to recover the glove and continue on like that. 886 00:44:54.269 --> 00:44:55.389 you can't have it both ways. People. 887 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:56.340 No, you can't. 888 00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:01.000 Now, when, you know, we, we, you know, he's able 889 00:45:01.019 --> 00:45:04.079 to get the stone. He goes back to Wakanda. He basically, 890 00:45:04.099 --> 00:45:07.119 you know, they're able to, you know, Wanda's got to 891 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.679 make the decision to basically take down, take down vision 892 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:14.840 because that's the only way at that point. 893 00:45:14.889 --> 00:45:16.969 Which, oh, sure. You mean? Yeah. 894 00:45:17.190 --> 00:45:17.489 Oh yeah. 895 00:45:17.670 --> 00:45:22.150 Well, no, sure. Sure. Sure. He is just, um, she's 896 00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:23.429 trying to get the stone out of vision. 897 00:45:24.150 --> 00:45:25.230 Yeah yeah. 898 00:45:27.030 --> 00:45:32.420 And it's it's one of those situations where i had 899 00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:35.840 a problem with it in the sense of you know 900 00:45:35.860 --> 00:45:40.360 the stone her trying to destroy the stone like the 901 00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:43.519 stone is still like the energy is still you can't 902 00:45:43.619 --> 00:45:47.219 destroy energy like that like being scientific at this moment 903 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:50.409 like destroying the stone like wouldn't destroy the stone really you. 904 00:45:50.369 --> 00:45:54.139 Know Well, visually, it dispersed the energy. 905 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.300 Dispersed the energy, but the energy is still out there. 906 00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.679 Right, but I think the point is, just like in Endgame, 907 00:46:01.929 --> 00:46:04.650 he used the stones to destroy the stones. The energy 908 00:46:04.710 --> 00:46:06.210 is still out there, but it's no longer in a 909 00:46:06.269 --> 00:46:10.510 usable state because it's not all combined together in this 910 00:46:10.650 --> 00:46:14.809 one little gem that has all the power compressed together. 911 00:46:15.250 --> 00:46:17.219 I think it makes sense. I don't think they destroyed 912 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:22.210 the energy, but they destroyed the housing mechanism for it. Yeah. 913 00:46:23.010 --> 00:46:27.050 And well, in any case with that, it's, you know, 914 00:46:27.110 --> 00:46:28.989 we get the destruction of it. 915 00:46:29.110 --> 00:46:29.889 Vision's gone. 916 00:46:30.329 --> 00:46:32.010 And it's almost at that moment, I was like, was 917 00:46:32.030 --> 00:46:33.409 sitting in the theater. It's like, oh, he's going to 918 00:46:33.489 --> 00:46:35.409 use the time stone to get it back. Like, this 919 00:46:35.469 --> 00:46:38.699 is like, he's not defeated. He's got what he needs 920 00:46:38.780 --> 00:46:41.099 to ensure that he can get what he wants back. 921 00:46:41.460 --> 00:46:43.780 And as he does, he uses the time stone, gets 922 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.860 it out, rips it out of his head, gets all 923 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.300 the stones together. And now it's like, we have to 924 00:46:48.340 --> 00:46:52.039 stop him before I'm, snapping and doing what he the 925 00:46:52.699 --> 00:46:56.480 you know taking out half of all life in the universe. 926 00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.440 Exactly exactly and you know it they were really close 927 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:02.340 to still doing it. 928 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:05.550 Right they were he just you know he you know 929 00:47:05.610 --> 00:47:08.489 Thor goes hits him in the chest just didn't aim 930 00:47:08.510 --> 00:47:10.230 for the head like his. 931 00:47:10.030 --> 00:47:13.929 His hubris gets the best of him and he wanted 932 00:47:13.969 --> 00:47:16.130 to be able to brag to Thanos that he killed 933 00:47:16.190 --> 00:47:20.030 him and he failed at killing him at least at 934 00:47:20.070 --> 00:47:22.750 this point, and he failed at stopping him from snapping. 935 00:47:22.789 --> 00:47:26.070 And when he snaps, everything goes white. Yep. 936 00:47:26.389 --> 00:47:29.389 And it was just like, no. And I even was like, oh, 937 00:47:29.409 --> 00:47:31.360 my God, they're going to do it. They're really going 938 00:47:31.380 --> 00:47:34.179 to do it. Now, the official name for the snap 939 00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:38.519 is called the decimation. It's defined as the killing one 940 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.039 in every ten of a group of people as a 941 00:47:41.099 --> 00:47:43.860 punishment for the whole group, deriving from the Romans, and 942 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.739 is therefore not necessarily suitable for this event. 943 00:47:47.219 --> 00:47:51.829 No, because they didn't kill... the decimation, it wasn't by 944 00:47:51.869 --> 00:47:55.769 a factor of 10 either. Um, but the, I had 945

00:47:56.050 --> 00:47:57.869 going into this movie, I thought there was a strong 946 00:47:57.909 --> 00:48:00.260 possibility of the snap and then fade to black. And 947 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.539 we wouldn't know what happens. I actually like what they 948 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.800 did better. It's snap. And then we do see the 949 00:48:05.940 --> 00:48:11.440 immediate first few seconds aftermath. And we see several characters survive. 950 00:48:11.699 --> 00:48:14.869 We see several characters turn to dust and, And we 951 00:48:14.989 --> 00:48:17.050 don't know what's happening with some of the others who 952 00:48:17.090 --> 00:48:19.869 weren't at these events. Like Hawkeye, for example. We just 953 00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:22.750 didn't know if he survived or not at this point. 954 00:48:23.809 --> 00:48:25.949 And I will tell you, Thanos at one point stabbed 955 00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:28.469 Iron Man. I did think he was going to die 956 00:48:28.510 --> 00:48:31.880 at that point. Because, again, I fully expected... names to 957 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.099 drop in this and at this point he had been 958 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.679 playing iron man for so long he'd made so many 959 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.000 appearances i really thought okay they're gonna do it he's 960 00:48:39.019 --> 00:48:42.340 gonna be done assuming this version of course time travel 961 00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:44.860 could come back into play but this version of tony 962 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.360 stark i really thought they were gonna kill when the 963 00:48:47.420 --> 00:48:49.760 snap happened i did not think he was gonna go 964 00:48:49.780 --> 00:48:52.329 i was like they're not gonna do the because obviously 965 00:48:52.349 --> 00:48:54.789 like we saw black panther get snapped like they just 966 00:48:54.829 --> 00:48:57.570 had his movie they're not going to kill him for 967 00:48:57.610 --> 00:49:00.889 good which we know what happened there but yeah the 968 00:49:00.989 --> 00:49:03.820 character was not intended to die at that point. And 969 00:49:03.940 --> 00:49:06.559 so Peter Parker, they were not going to kill Spider-Man. 970 00:49:06.860 --> 00:49:08.900 I did not think Tony Stark was actually going to 971 00:49:08.940 --> 00:49:10.599 die at that point. I didn't see two death fake 972 00:49:10.659 --> 00:49:13.070 outs with them in the same movie. Yeah. 973 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.230 And you know, if you, I thought this was interesting 974 00:49:15.250 --> 00:49:18.230 too looking at the the official poster for infinity war 975 00:49:18.929 --> 00:49:22.800 there are 24 characters visible on the poster 12 live 976 00:49:22.980 --> 00:49:24.800 and 12 die on that poster. 977 00:49:24.860 --> 00:49:27.639 That's good half and half balance everything in balance as 978 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:28.300 all things should be. 979 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.539 As everything should be but i just when i was 980 00:49:31.579 --> 00:49:34.599 in the theater i just never been in a theater 981 00:49:34.659 --> 00:49:37.260 and haven't been in one since where the theater just 982 00:49:37.460 --> 00:49:38.440 is silent. 983 00:49:38.659 --> 00:49:40.820 And you just like are hearing these little things. Oh 984 00:49:40.860 --> 00:49:41.360 my God. 985 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.500 And, you know, especially when you get, you know, Peter saying, 986 00:49:45.820 --> 00:49:47.400 you know, Mr. Stark, I don't feel so well. I 987 00:49:47.420 --> 00:49:50.719 don't want to go before he disintegrates. That was apparently 988 00:49:50.820 --> 00:49:53.260 improvised on the spot by Tom Holland. That was not 989 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:53.800 in the script. 990 00:49:54.090 --> 00:49:57.190 Right. Improvised. And it was kind of a, I guess 991 00:49:57.230 --> 00:49:59.429 part of the idea is thinking his spider sense feels 992 00:49:59.489 --> 00:50:04.369 it coming. And it, you mentioned how quiet the theater was. Yeah. 993 00:50:04.409 --> 00:50:06.809 It was one of those, like during the, during the credits, 994 00:50:06.869 --> 00:50:08.289 it was one of those, like you could hear a 995 00:50:08.309 --> 00:50:12.360 pin drop moments, like just every, and even just, I 996 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.320 know there's the little blurb with even a little bit 997 00:50:14.340 --> 00:50:16.519 of a laugh from Samuel L. Jackson in the credits. Oh, 998 00:50:16.579 --> 00:50:21.000 whole mother. But even with that, it was just silence 999 00:50:21.219 --> 00:50:23.050 as people were walking out of the theater for, at 1000 00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:25.869 least for me, those first couple of times I went just, 1001 00:50:26.389 --> 00:50:28.610 just silence. 1002 00:50:29.590 --> 00:50:29.789 Yeah. 1003 00:50:30.550 --> 00:50:35.949 But, I mean, we leave off there, and, you know, 1004 00:50:35.969 --> 00:50:37.690 we're just left in just, like, utter. 1005 00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:42.119 We get John of Thanos going to where his home 1006 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.699 is in his hut, and just he's looking out. 1007 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.619 On a grateful universe for what he just did. 1008 00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.309 And that's Infinity War. 1009 00:50:53.929 --> 00:50:57.969 Mm-hmm. And we are left with a post-credit scene. What's 1010 00:50:57.989 --> 00:50:58.969 the post-credit scene? 1011 00:50:59.500 --> 00:51:01.599 Yeah, I mentioned it briefly, but Samuel L. Jackson and 1012 00:51:01.619 --> 00:51:04.780 Maria Hill, you know, they basically, did you hear about 1013 00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.179 the fighting or whatever? And that's it. They're in New York. 1014 00:51:07.219 --> 00:51:12.239 They're not at the Battle of Wakanda. And as both 1015 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:17.469 of them get snapped, as Nick is dying, he had 1016 00:51:17.550 --> 00:51:21.110 tried to grab his pager for Captain Marvel, which kind 1017 00:51:21.150 --> 00:51:23.929 of brings us full circle back to how we started 1018

00:51:23.969 --> 00:51:27.739 with this side venture, this project. taking us back to 1019 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.059 Captain Marvel because Captain Marvel would be not the next movie, 1020 00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:33.860 but two movies from now. We had Ant-Man and the 1021 00:51:33.900 --> 00:51:36.780 Wasp followed by Captain Marvel as the final lead into 1022 00:51:36.820 --> 00:51:39.699 Avengers Endgame. And not a lot of people knew who 1023 00:51:39.739 --> 00:51:41.880 Captain Marvel was, but they would certainly find out. 1024 00:51:43.340 --> 00:51:43.960 Yeah. 1025 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.840 And especially where, you know, a question I always have, 1026 00:51:47.420 --> 00:51:50.039 and we can, you know, further delve into this Endgame, 1027 00:51:50.099 --> 00:51:52.989 especially with knowing that, you know, the people back at 1028 00:51:53.010 --> 00:51:55.469 Snack get brought back. It's like, What happened to these– 1029 00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:58.280 where did these people that pop back up that are 1030 00:51:58.340 --> 00:51:59.820 on these planes that are crashing down? 1031 00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:03.780 Yeah, allegedly they've been told like– people have been told like, oh, 1032 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.380 you snap back and you're safe and everything. Sure, but 1033 00:52:06.420 --> 00:52:08.820 what about the people who died as a result of 1034 00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.489 the snap but not of the snap? You mentioned an airplane. 1035 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.530 The pilot got snapped. Okay, fine. He comes back and 1036 00:52:16.570 --> 00:52:19.489 he's on the ground because– Hulk's wish is smart enough 1037 00:52:19.510 --> 00:52:21.849 to account for that. I'll, I'll buy that. But what 1038 00:52:21.889 --> 00:52:24.349 about the people who were in that plane when it crashed? 1039 00:52:24.409 --> 00:52:27.019 Because they no longer had a pilot, right? Like those 1040 00:52:27.059 --> 00:52:29.880 are the people who I don't think the snap brought back. 1041 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.719 So it's still. 1042 00:52:31.860 --> 00:52:36.199 It's, it's a huge, it's a huge loss. It's huge. Well, 1043 00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:38.360 at this point it's the biggest loss that the Avengers 1044 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:39.960 have had to date. And since then. 1045 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:40.719 Yeah. 1046 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.170 So, but we come to the end with a infinity 1047 00:52:45.230 --> 00:52:51.429 war and, um, Yeah, so we will see you all 1048 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:54.809 next month for the movie I think you and I 1049 00:52:54.829 --> 00:52:58.849 have been waiting to come back to is Avengers Endgame. 1050 00:53:38.130 --> 00:53:41.070 All right, Brent, as always, post-credits, a preview of our 1051 00:53:41.110 --> 00:53:42.349 discussion for Endgame. 1052 00:53:42.369 --> 00:53:45.050 I will just say this. 1053 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:49.719 When I saw this movie, I was in the middle 1054 00:53:49.739 --> 00:53:52.519

of trying to put my house in the market and 1055 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.260 putting basically a lot of remodeling going on at the 1056 00:53:59.300 --> 00:54:01.000 old house and everything like that get on the market. 1057 00:54:01.059 --> 00:54:05.559 So this movie provided me just a stress relief of, 1058 00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:07.809 So much necessary because it was during spring break and 1059 00:54:07.829 --> 00:54:09.630 I was spending my time getting my house ready to 1060 00:54:09.869 --> 00:54:11.969 put on the market. So this movie was just a 1061 00:54:13.690 --> 00:54:18.070 godsend for me to just not think about selling a house. 1062 00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.000 The first time I saw this movie, the first time 1063 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.019 I saw this trailer for this movie, I was sitting 1064 00:54:25.059 --> 00:54:27.960 in a parking lot at a school waiting for a 1065 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.170 job interview for a promotion I was going for. I 1066 00:54:31.190 --> 00:54:35.280 ended up getting that promotion for the record. But I 1067 00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.519 was nervous about it. You know, if you're applying for 1068 00:54:37.539 --> 00:54:39.480 a job that you want, you're going to be nervous 1069 00:54:39.539 --> 00:54:42.800 about it. And I was nervous about it. And it 1070 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.699 helped calm me. You know, my happy place was a 1071 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.650 little bit of Marvel stuff there. The first time seeing 1072 00:54:50.690 --> 00:54:53.829 the movie? Well, it's the only movie of the entire 1073 00:54:54.550 --> 00:54:57.570 MCU that I had my first experience with it at 1074 00:54:57.610 --> 00:55:00.889 a different theater. at a different location. It's the only movie, 1075 00:55:00.909 --> 00:55:03.489 the entire, every single Marvel movie that's ever come out 1076 00:55:03.530 --> 00:55:09.530 because foolishly my AMC was under construction. This movie came 1077 00:55:09.590 --> 00:55:12.099 out and I did eventually see this movie in that theater. Okay. 1078 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:14.519 But it was like my, I saw it seven times 1079 00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:16.659 in theaters and it was like, I don't remember, but 1080 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.559 it was like round five or six that I finally 1081 00:55:19.619 --> 00:55:22.940 saw it. No, I saw, no, I think I misspoke earlier. 1082 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.000 I saw it in video or five times, but not 1083 00:55:25.059 --> 00:55:27.710 five times opening weekend. It was five times total. This 1084 00:55:27.849 --> 00:55:30.250 I saw five times opening weekend, and then I saw 1085 00:55:30.429 --> 00:55:33.150 two more. I'll double-check my notes, but I'm pretty sure 1086 00:55:33.170 --> 00:55:34.469 that's right. 1087 00:55:34.550 --> 00:55:36.289 Hats off to you, man. Hats off to you. 1088 00:55:36.610 --> 00:55:39.409 It was, I mean, twice in one day at one point. 1089 00:55:39.670 --> 00:55:43.940 But Thursday, Friday, Saturday, maybe it's four times. I need 1090 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.159 to double-check my notes, but it was definitely Thursday night, 1091 00:55:46.460 --> 00:55:51.440 Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday night, and– think I did 1092 00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.980 go on that Sunday but I'll verify but regardless it 1093 00:55:54.019 --> 00:55:56.079 doesn't matter the point is I eventually did get to 1094 00:55:56.139 --> 00:55:58.260 see it in that theater but it's still like it 1095 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.420 just it burned me it's like the one and like 1096 00:56:01.460 --> 00:56:03.510 the only one I did not see at my home 1097 00:56:03.550 --> 00:56:07.750 theater for opening night like killing me got then horrible 1098 00:56:07.809 --> 00:56:09.610 horrible time to play construction. 1099 00:56:09.690 --> 00:56:12.550 Yeah and yeah I saw it twice opening weekend I 1100 00:56:12.590 --> 00:56:15.130 saw it the Thursday night preview and then I saw 1101 00:56:15.150 --> 00:56:17.530 like I Aaron and I saw it that was the 1102 00:56:17.570 --> 00:56:20.329 last time I think we'd been That is the last 1103 00:56:20.429 --> 00:56:23.230 time that I... No, that was the last time before 1104 00:56:23.269 --> 00:56:25.340 COVID that we were in a theater, that we went 1105 00:56:25.380 --> 00:56:28.659 to a theater together. Like, the next time wouldn't have 1106 00:56:28.699 --> 00:56:30.159 been until No Way Home. 1107 00:56:31.019 --> 00:56:33.280 You know what? I'm a slacker. It was only three 1108 00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:35.699 times opening week. Oh, man. 1109 00:56:35.780 --> 00:56:36.420 You're trying to. 1110 00:56:36.500 --> 00:56:38.130 Okay, no. All right, here we go. I found it. 1111 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:42.110 I found it. April 25th, April 26th, twice on April 27th, 1112 00:56:42.219 --> 00:56:47.449 and then May 4th and twice in June is when 1113 00:56:47.510 --> 00:56:50.500 I saw it. And then... For the record, Infinity War 1114 00:56:50.579 --> 00:56:55.099 was April 26th, 27th, 28th, and then once in May 1115 00:56:55.260 --> 00:56:56.219 and once in June. 1116 00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.420 Those are rookie numbers. 1117 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:00.230 You've got to pump those up. 1118 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.139 You've got to pump those up, right? I figured seven's enough. 1119 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.519 Seven was enough. Actually, my goal was get higher than 1120 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.070 Infinity Wars, which at the time was my record. 1121 00:57:11.309 --> 00:57:15.369 But yeah, I don't want to go down the road 1122 00:57:15.550 --> 00:57:18.809 before we ruin our discussion, but this is a movie– 1123 00:57:19.090 --> 00:57:22.159 that when we were planning this idea that I could 1124 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.480 not wait to revisit, you know, this was the weekend, 1125 00:57:27.500 --> 00:57:31.789 this was the summer where I premiered World's Finest True Believers. 1126 00:57:32.269 --> 00:57:34.389 This is a weekend. 1127 00:57:34.130 --> 00:57:40.360 Where I started gaining a more understanding of the podcasting community. 1128 00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:42.280 So there's a lot going on at this time for me, 1129 00:57:42.579 --> 00:57:45.519 that end game will always be kind of that special 1130 00:57:45.820 --> 00:57:47.800 moment in time, not just for the MCU, but for 1131 00:57:47.860 --> 00:57:50.570 me as a, as a community member of this. 1132 00:57:50.659 --> 00:57:53.510 And it's just so cool to revisit it. Lots to discuss. 1133 00:57:54.130 --> 00:57:57.429 It's a moment in time that definitely will bring up 1134 00:57:57.469 --> 00:57:59.769 some things in the sense of where the MCU is 1135 00:57:59.809 --> 00:58:02.369 headed towards when we get to King dynasty and secret 1136 00:58:02.389 --> 00:58:04.070 wars that I think we're going to get some mirror 1137 00:58:04.250 --> 00:58:06.409 mirror images that they're going to try to hold on 1138 00:58:06.449 --> 00:58:06.880 to again. 1139 00:58:06.949 --> 00:58:07.900 But, All right. 1140 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:11.099 We will see you next month. Be, you know, American 1141 00:58:11.139 --> 00:58:13.289 Thanksgiving around the time at that point. So we have 1142 00:58:13.309 --> 00:58:15.110 a lot to be thankful for because, again, we will 1143 00:58:15.130 --> 00:58:17.389 be bringing you Endgame to our patrons. 1144 00:58:17.489 --> 00:58:19.539 So thank you all. And we'll see you next month. 1145 00:58:19.699 --> 00:58:19.940 Bye bye.