บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Spider-Man: Brand New Day Live Review

to find. 00:03:05 Speaker 9: Any scenes. I didn't get the early tickets. Yeah, I didn't get the early tickets. So it was tough. And so I was sitting between two random people. And I was like, I can't cry in front of these dudes inside of me. 00:03:20 Speaker 4: Dark enough. You got teared up. 00:03:21 Speaker 6: You got teary eyed. 00:03:22 Speaker 1: I did. I got emotional in moments. 00:03:24 Speaker 4: You did too. I didn't cry because I'm a thug. Yeah, exactly. I did get a little like. 00:03:28 Speaker 6: I'm curious to know how y'all got. 00:03:30 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:03:30 Speaker 1: I was hoping you were. 00:03:31 Speaker 4: I wasn't. I'm a G. I see. 00:03:35 Speaker 1: But I went twice. I went that first time and I went with her. 00:03:39 Speaker 4: I wanted to see it again before this, but I didn't have time. 00:03:41 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:03:41 Speaker 1: But no, man, I enjoyed this, man. They did a really good job with this, in my opinion. 00:03:47 Speaker 4: How we feeling there? 00:03:48 Speaker 6: So, you know, I'm not the biggest Marvel like girl. 00:03:53 Speaker 10: I'm not into like how all the things play in the contracts and all the things behind it. So with that in mind, this is the best Spider-Man I've seen. 00:04:02 Speaker 4: I loved it. 00:04:06 Speaker 1: Mr. Ken, I thought it was great. Spectacular even, Mike. There you go. 00:04:12 Speaker 4: There you go. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: Spike is like, what did y'all buy? 00:04:18 Speaker 4: He's like, these just words to me. 00:04:21 Speaker 5: No, I thought it was great. Do you have any questions about the tickets or anything like that? Being able to buy tickets? Because I got mine a little quick. 00:04:30 Speaker 4: I mean, if you got something you want to share. 00:04:32 Speaker 1: I saw you at 2 a.m. on the- Man, bro. So, yes. I thought- So, Monday. 00:04:38 Speaker 5: Before we started recording House of Dragons, Nick was like, yo, you got your tickets. 00:04:43 Speaker 1: I was like, nah. I always thought most of the time this shit be hype. This shit was real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was real. I was talking to AB Tuesday. I was looking. I grabbed the ticket for 10 a.m. 00:04:54 Speaker 5: Because that was the only one I could find for Friday. And I was like, okay, at least I'll be able to go. But I really wanted them to see it. But I couldn't find any tickets. And we just happened to find tickets for the 2 a.m. showing that popped up. 00:05:06 Speaker 8: Oh, man. 00:05:06 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. And all four of us went to it, and we took a nap. 00:05:10 Speaker 4: I love it. 00:05:11 Speaker 1: Why not? 00:05:11 Speaker 5: I couldn't fall asleep, but by the time I finally fell asleep, that's when he came in there. 00:05:18 Speaker 1: Said, time to go. 00:05:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. 00:05:21 Speaker 1: But no, I was up throughout the whole movie. 00:05:26 Speaker 5: So it definitely kept me engaged, and we didn't get out of there until four or something, like five. And then I went back the next morning at 10, so I saw it twice. 00:05:35 Speaker 1: Three hours. Less than four hours of sleep. I went back and watched it again. 00:05:39 Speaker 5: How I felt in that one, though, was how I thought I. 00:05:41 Speaker 1: Would feel at that 2 a.m. show. 00:05:43 Speaker 5: But it was serious, man. People were flocked in. People were piled in there. It was damn near sold out for the 2 a.m. 00:05:52 Speaker 1: Show. 00:05:52 Speaker 5: People were walking in there with blankets and stuff. You walk in, it looked like it's 7 or 8 a.m. 00:05:58 Speaker 1: Show, bro. 00:05:58 Speaker 4: Ain't no movie that good. 00:06:00 Speaker 1: This one probably was, Mike. 00:06:01 Speaker 4: To go to see something at 2 o'clock in the morning. 00:06:03 Speaker 5: I think this one, I think people probably felt like, They were happy that they went that late. 00:06:09 Speaker 4: Or they were delusional because they had no damn sleep. 00:06:11 Speaker 5: You know, it was a bit of that. Yeah, I was struggling Friday. I was a zombie Friday, but nah. 00:06:18 Speaker 1: But no, I think the thing for us is that, one, I didn't want anything spoiled. 00:06:23 Speaker 6: That part. 00:06:24 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, sure, sure. 00:06:26 Speaker 5: And I wanted all of us to kind of be part of this moment, part of this moment. 00:06:30 Speaker 1: So, yeah, we felt it out. We made it happen. 00:06:33 Speaker 8: So y'all got to pay attention when Nick says, every once in a while, I get it why you doubt Nick, because usually Nick is kind of like Spike. 00:06:38 Speaker 4: It's just like, all right, that's probably wrong. 00:06:40 Speaker 8: But this one, I bought my ticket the second it went on sale. And I already got my doomsday ticket. 00:06:46 Speaker 4: Y'all better stop fucking around. 00:06:48 Speaker 1: It's okay. 00:06:50 Speaker 6: It's okay, boy. 00:06:50 Speaker 1: I learned my lesson. 00:06:52 Speaker 6: It's all right. 00:06:53 Speaker 1: I'm definitely buying, getting the doomsday ticket. 00:06:55 Speaker 4: I told y'all, I told y'all the site crashed in the group. 00:06:57 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, if it crashed, I think y'all should go get your tickets. 00:07:00 Speaker 4: I was already done. 00:07:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. They crashed on Supergirl, too, though. 00:07:03 Speaker 4: I know. 00:07:04 Speaker 1: No, that was. 00:07:04 Speaker 2: I said it when I said it, like, I think it's manufacturer hype because it's like Supergirl went like that. 00:07:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. 00:07:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the difference. 00:07:13 Speaker 2: So, I guess I'll start by saying I want to apologize to the Is the Mic Still On listeners because I know like two or three years ago they asked, like, who's the most popular superhero? And I was trying to be objective and I was like, Batman. 00:07:31 Speaker 4: Is the most popular superhero. You said that? 00:07:34 Speaker 1: Over Spider-Man? 00:07:35 Speaker 2: I'm

pretty sure I said that. I'm pretty sure I did. And if I didn't, then I was going with my gut. But this nigga number one. He been number one. He by number one. Like, this weekend just proves it. Like, this nigga's damn near beating the Avengers box office by himself. 00:07:50 Speaker 4: Like, yeah. 00:07:52 Speaker 2: And I enjoyed every bit of this shit here, man. Like, I've seen it three times already. 00:07:59 Speaker 5: I almost went Saturday to watch it a third time, Jalen. 00:08:03 Speaker 4: I had a ticket for 10 a.m. 00:08:04 Speaker 1: Saturday. I was so close. I was so close, but I am going again. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: Man, I'm going. 00:08:09 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to go later this week to see the Screen X because it was shot for Screen X. 00:08:13 Speaker 1: What the hell is that? 00:08:14 Speaker 4: It's like the 270. Where do you see that? I just want to nerd out. Mike, let me nerd out. Where do you see that? I don't want to be doing this while I'm watching a movie. Nah, you're set. 00:08:24 Speaker 1: Where can I find that? 00:08:25 Speaker 4: Where do you see that? Yeah, where do you see that? It's in Atlantic Station. You got to go to the Regal, though. 00:08:29 Speaker 1: You got to go to Regal. 00:08:30 Speaker 4: It's the one with the... Yeah, it's not AMC. 00:08:31 Speaker 1: You mean I got to pay for it? 00:08:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to pay for it. 00:08:34 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 00:08:34 Speaker 4: It's the sidewalls. 00:08:36 Speaker 1: I'm going. 00:08:37 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:08:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going. 00:08:39 Speaker 4: So, yeah, I'm going to try to find some time to make that happen. 00:08:43 Speaker 1: So, you said you got your tickets early. What type of movie? How did you see it? Dolby? 00:08:48 Speaker 4: That's what y'all told me, right? 00:08:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dolby Cinema or 40X. 00:08:52 Speaker 4: Well, there's no 40X at the one I go to. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: Oh, you saw Conor at the one you go to? Yes. Oh, okay. 00:08:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, he told me he saw you at Southlake, and he saw you at a different one. 00:09:01 Speaker 1: Southlake. That's the only one I've ever seen. I almost did 40X, Rob, but that would have been way too much, bro. 00:09:07 Speaker 4: Can you drink some more? 00:09:08 Speaker 1: For Spider-Man? Ain't no way. 00:09:10 Speaker 2: I did that shit for Supergirl and I hated it. I don't know how y'all enjoy 4DX. 00:09:13 Speaker 4: It's too much shit going on. It's amazing. It's too much shit. It's the only way I. 00:09:17 Speaker 6: Want to watch the movie. 00:09:17 Speaker 4: I just want to watch the movie. 00:09:19 Speaker 6: Odyssey and 4DX was an experience. 00:09:24 Speaker 4: I can't apologize. I'm worse than you. But yeah, it's a lot going on when I do 4DX. 00:09:32 Speaker 6: Love it. 00:09:32 Speaker 4: And I like to be high when I watch these. I can't be high watching Spider-Man. Why I can't? Because he's swinging around and stuff. I might think I'm swinging. That's kind of the point. 00:09:42 Speaker 6: It's his own 4DX. 00:09:46 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to try to do something a little different. This is just a couple of questions for those who haven't seen it. These questions are going to be more spoiler-free. Oh, this whole review is going to be spoiler-free. 00:09:58 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no. I know the whole review. You think I'm going to talk about Spider-Man and not him? I'm letting them know. 00:10:04 Speaker 2: But if you just hear, and you're just hearing the hype, you wasn't able to get a ticket, and you just want to hear our thoughts, we'll give you a couple of questions to give an idea of what we thought. 00:10:13 Speaker 4: Just consider it. Good job. 00:10:17 Speaker 2: So we already got Your point of view, as far as your first reaction walking out the theater. 00:10:24 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:10:25 Speaker 4: Like, Kim, what was your first reaction when you walked out the theater? Like, in your mind, what were you thinking? 00:10:30 Speaker 1: I'm tired. 00:10:34 Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think I was, one, surprisingly, I was really surprised that I was able to, I didn't get tired, you know, staying in there. And halfway through it, I think I had, uh, Nate's reaction, that this is probably the best Spider-Man movie I've seen out of all of them. And I think the other reaction was Tom Holland is Spider-Man. He is Peter Parker. 00:10:58 Speaker 1: There's no other one. Andy Garcia, whatever his name is. 00:11:01 Speaker 4: Garfield. 00:11:02 Speaker 1: Andy Garcia. 00:11:04 Speaker 4: Andy Garcia is crazy. Who is Andy Garfield? Sorry, I got my Trump on, bro. 00:11:10 Speaker 1: Spider-Ombra? Yeah, I'm sorry. I went Trumpian on this. 00:11:17 Speaker 5: Andrew. 00:11:18 Speaker 4: Andrew Garfield. 00:11:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tobey Maguire. Is that right? 00:11:22 Speaker 4: I think so. 00:11:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, get them out of here. It's Tom Holland. Tom Holland. 00:11:27 Speaker 4: All day. 00:11:27 Speaker 1: All right, all right. 00:11:30 Speaker 4: Nay, your first reaction? 00:11:32 Speaker 10: I cannot wait to see what they do with X-Men. I swear I can't. I need it yesterday. 00:11:36 Speaker 4: That was your first reaction. 00:11:39 Speaker 6: That was my first reaction. 00:11:40 Speaker 5: Right. 00:11:41 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I've already kind of said it. I was like, dang, that was emotional. I'm glad I ain't crying in front of these two dudes. But it was the times I had to really, I had to really. 00:11:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I really did. 00:11:53 Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know what it was like. because it deals with like, like grief, right? And so if you really just let yourself go and just think about what they're saying in this movie, it's emotional. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: It really is emotional. 00:12:08 Speaker 9: So yeah, that, that was my, my first, my first thing like, dang, that was

emotional. It's the most emotional Spider-Man I've seen. 00:12:15 Speaker 2: And what was your first reaction? 00:12:21 Speaker 4: Um, It was good. I didn't get the emotion from it like what Rod is saying. 00:12:34 Speaker 7: Maybe, I don't know, the earlier ones did that for me, like the ones with Tobey Maguire. 00:12:41 Speaker 4: The ones since then haven't been that much so for me. This one I didn't hate. 00:12:46 Speaker 7: I just felt like I always kind of do with Marvel big films because I don't see the ones in between. 00:12:52 Speaker 4: I feel like I kind of miss stuff. 00:12:54 Speaker 1: None of this one. You didn't miss none. 00:12:56 Speaker 8: Yeah, no. 00:12:56 Speaker 1: Okay. I hate that people think that when they watch these movies. 00:13:00 Speaker 4: They do a good job of making you think that. 00:13:02 Speaker 6: You think so? 00:13:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:13:04 Speaker 4: I think the audience. Until now, they're trying to stop doing that. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to. They got to detach from it. 00:13:09 Speaker 2: I think the audience does it more so in the film because they'll say something like, oh, and you're probably thinking like, Yeah why they so happy about that It was a couple of those moments Exactly In this one People was like It. 00:13:19 Speaker 4: Ain't the audience's fault They put it in the movie No but They was reacting like Oh shit Like it was an oh shit. 00:13:24 Speaker 2: Moment There was some oh shit moments But that's what I'm saying Oh crap moments That's what I'm saying like. 00:13:28 Speaker 4: I didn't know what the Oh shit Until they reacted I. 00:13:32 Speaker 7: Didn't get what The oh shit moment was But it was feeling like I should have known What the oh shit moment. 00:13:37 Speaker 2: Was And there was nothing Really in here That he would have saw In the past That would reinforce An oh shit moment That's true That's what I'm saying like No, not in this one. 00:13:44 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 00:13:45 Speaker 2: Even lately, a lot of them haven't been that. But if you're a fan of the comics or just know Marvel, you'd be like, oh, shit. He don't care about none of that. So you're not missing nothing, but it makes you feel like you're missing something. 00:13:57 Speaker 5: Those are fans from the people that read the comics. They're the ones that, and I think that's what you're saying, Jalen, most of them are the ones that... having those reactions because they read the comics and they're familiar with what's going on. 00:14:10 Speaker 4: In the past movies, they used to put stuff from the shows in the movies. 00:14:13 Speaker 1: Got it. 00:14:14 Speaker 4: That's what I thought you were talking about. 00:14:15 Speaker 1: See, I don't feel like they did that here. 00:14:18 Speaker 8: I don't think you had to watch any of the stupid shows. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: Oh, the show. 00:14:22 Speaker 4: Y'all talking about the shows, not the movies. 00:14:23 Speaker 8: Now, you might need

to watch the shows to know who Damage Control is because they were introduced in the show, weren't they? 00:14:29 Speaker 4: They were introduced in the very first Spider-Man. Really? Yeah. Not the Tobey Maguire, but Homecoming. 00:14:37 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:14:38 Speaker 4: I don't remember that. Okay. I thought they were introducing She-Hulk. 00:14:41 Speaker 1: No. 00:14:42 Speaker 2: They took the contract from Toomes. That's why he got upset. The Vulture got upset because they took his contract. 00:14:47 Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. 00:14:49 Speaker 1: Gotcha. 00:14:50 Speaker 4: Gotcha. 00:14:50 Speaker 9: Y'all don't think you needed to know, and I guess, Nate, I can ask you this, that you needed to know kind of who Punisher is? 00:14:57 Speaker 4: Not really. 00:14:57 Speaker 2: I didn't. 00:14:58 Speaker 10: And I don't have any. The only thing I know about Punisher is that Jon Barenthal is the actor. I didn't watch any of those episodes. I didn't feel like I missed anything without that context. So, yeah, I mean, you got a very clear understanding of who his character was, like immediately with. 00:15:19 Speaker 6: Him on the screen. 00:15:19 Speaker 1: So, yeah. And the hand is from Daredevil, right? 00:15:23 Speaker 8: Yeah, but they didn't lean too heavy into the hands, so you could just watch that and be like, oh, it's a bunch of ninjas. 00:15:27 Speaker 1: I'm good. 00:15:29 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't have that context either, and I was fine. 00:15:31 Speaker 4: I didn't think that. 00:15:34 Speaker 7: I had a different feeling from you. I knew who Jon Bernthal was, and I knew he was the Punisher, but I was like, why is he here? 00:15:42 Speaker 4: I was thinking, why is he here? And then the ninjas, I was like, well, I feel like I should know who these people are, too. So you never, never mind. No, I never seen, this is my first time seeing the ninja people. 00:15:55 Speaker 1: Me too. 00:15:56 Speaker 4: But you probably settled into it rather quickly. 00:15:58 Speaker 7: Oh, no, it didn't take away from, like, the movie was good. Like, it did. I feel like everything it was supposed to do. But just like what you were just saying with the Punisher part of it, I was like, well, why is he around? Like, I don't... Because I didn't... We looked at the thing, we did the review, and I didn't particularly like it. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: And then the Ninja one, it's just like, okay, who is this? 00:16:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, I. 00:16:22 Speaker 4: Overall, my reaction was we're headed in the right direction. 00:16:25 Speaker 2: We're going in the right direction as far as Spider-Man. And for us in particular, that's about it that y'all can get from us that's not going to be spoilers. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: So you got our reaction, how we feel, where we going. 00:16:40 Speaker 1: That's it. 00:16:40 Speaker 2: So we're about to dive into the film and just kick it off. You have seen the original trilogy, right? 00:16:47 Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, cool. 00:16:49 Speaker 4: So you're not lost there. That's a positive. 00:16:52 Speaker 2: So we ended the last movie with Peter not telling MJ and Ned the truth and deciding that no one needs to know that he is Spider-Man. But the movie opens with Peter rereading the letter that he was going to give to MJ at the end of No Way Home. This question is for Rod and Ken and. 00:17:11 Speaker 4: Nick, since you're watching. I'm pretty sure you're watching. 00:17:15 Speaker 2: You two were the only ones that were like, that gave pushback to why it was stupid for him not telling them. 00:17:22 Speaker 4: Do y'all still feel that way right now? 00:17:24 Speaker 1: Wait, what did I say? 00:17:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gave pushback when we were like, it made sense for him not to tell MJ. 00:17:31 Speaker 2: Ken was like, no, it didn't. Nick was like, nah, it don't even. And you were like, nah, it kind of don't make sense. You kind of came over at the end, but you were kind of with Ken and them were like, it didn't make sense why he didn't tell him. 00:17:41 Speaker 4: Do y'all still feel the same way now? 00:17:43 Speaker 1: I don't even remember that. Damn. 00:17:44 Speaker 9: I don't remember it either, but it's kind of coming back or whatnot because I had to. 00:17:52 Speaker 1: The smell wore off? 00:17:53 Speaker 4: Right. 00:17:57 Speaker 1: Okay, so what did I initially say? So my position was that they won't remember him anyway? 00:18:03 Speaker 4: No, your position was he should have went ahead and told them. Yeah, he should have. When he went to the car. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: Oh, that he should have told them who he was. Oh, man. 00:18:10 Speaker 4: Because he was getting ready to. 00:18:11 Speaker 1: This was at the. 00:18:12 Speaker 5: This was when the spell was cast, they don't remember him, and he ran into MJ at the end and he walked away. 00:18:18 Speaker 4: He went there specifically to tell her. To tell her. 00:18:21 Speaker 1: Yes. And I was like, no, it doesn't make sense. To tell them. Yeah. You still standing by that? 00:18:30 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:18:30 Speaker 4: I thought your position was he should have told them. Yeah, he should have told them. Yeah. 00:18:35 Speaker 1: I don't remember. Y'all asked me something. 00:18:36 Speaker 4: I don't remember. Yeah, I know, Ken. I'm like, why? I didn't even think of us two. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: I didn't even think of Andrew Garfield. 00:18:48 Speaker 4: That's the correct answer. That's the answer you should have gave the second he asked you that question. I don't remember. 00:18:53 Speaker 1: I asked. I was trying to recommend it. 00:18:55 Speaker 4: I don't know if I can. 00:18:57 Speaker 1: I did have the thought, though. Because I didn't even think about that when I was watching it. I was just like, damn, bro. Like, you know. 00:19:04 Speaker 5: But he, speaking to the fact that he lingered on that for a while, it was really haunting him to the point where it felt

like he was. 00:19:15 Speaker 1: Reading that damn letter every damn day. So he probably. 00:19:18 Speaker 5: Should have said something so he wouldn't have that guilt. But either way it go, yeah. But, I don't know, it's interesting because we see how two different things play. 00:19:28 Speaker 1: Out in this movie. 00:19:30 Speaker 9: And I was saying that he should tell them. 00:19:33 Speaker 4: Yeah y'all were both on that side From what I remember. 00:19:36 Speaker 9: At least So if I was saying that he should tell them It was probably in the sense of like I mean because because he didn't want to tell him to protect them right but if they did know how would somebody know that they know. 00:19:55 Speaker 1: So so he's. 00:19:56 Speaker 9: Protected so he's i know what you're asking got you how would somebody know that they know If he told them. 00:20:01 Speaker 8: Because they would be around Peter more. And then he was worried that the same thing would happen again. Remember he walked in and she had the cut? Because it was the mark on her head. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: And he was like, you knowing has led to you almost getting killed. 00:20:12 Speaker 4: Like, you've been getting hurt because of me. Like, I could feel that. Especially if that's his girl. 00:20:17 Speaker 1: No, I feel you. But, I mean, he could still distance himself. You know what I'm saying? Like, they can know. He was right, though. 00:20:24 Speaker 6: Yeah, then what's the point? 00:20:25 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:20:26 Speaker 10: If you're going to tell her and then keep distance, and this is somebody that you love and you're in love with and they love you, and you're going to tell them who you are and that we have this history and then distance yourself, what is the point? 00:20:37 Speaker 4: That just seems cruel. Nate, you ain't even had to go that deep. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: What black woman you know going to let you get up in the middle of the night and just come back when you want to? 00:20:44 Speaker 4: She's only half. And not know. But still, let you disappear and not tell her where you at. 00:20:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:20:52 Speaker 4: That wouldn't have worked at all. 00:20:54 Speaker 1: I guess. 00:20:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. 00:20:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I wish I really knew what my stance was. 00:21:02 Speaker 4: It's all good. I just brought it back up. 00:21:04 Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and watch that. 00:21:06 Speaker 6: The review? 00:21:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:21:07 Speaker 4: It played into this film, though. 00:21:09 Speaker 1: It did. 00:21:10 Speaker 6: It played out really well. 00:21:10 Speaker 1: It did. 00:21:12 Speaker 2: Well, we get a montage of four years of him crime fighting and beating niggas ass, man. 00:21:19 Speaker 4: Some iconic characters. Mike, who you saw? 00:21:24 Speaker 8: I only didn't know one of the guys. I still don't know who the hell one of them was. But Boomerang, Tarantula, obviously Scorpion. And then there was

a guy I don't know. Then there was another guy, wasn't there? 00:21:35 Speaker 4: Tombstone. Tombstone! 00:21:37 Speaker 8: So yeah, that was the only part that kind of made me a little upset. Because that's my favorite Spider-Man villain. And I think Crandon was perfect. 00:21:44 Speaker 4: Perfect. 00:21:45 Speaker 8: And the fact that we only saw him for two seconds. 00:21:48 Speaker 4: I was like, oh man. But then all of my spirits were lifted when I saw my girl Tina. Who is Tina? Tina from the Bear. 00:21:56 Speaker 8: Oh, yes. 00:21:56 Speaker 4: My favorite character from the Bear. 00:21:58 Speaker 6: I was like, yes. 00:21:58 Speaker 10: I literally wanted to start clapping, but I was like, nobody else is excited about this. 00:22:04 Speaker 4: I didn't know she was in the movie. 00:22:06 Speaker 6: I didn't either. 00:22:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, they hadn't said anything. 00:22:07 Speaker 8: They didn't say anything. That made me so happy. But yeah, all the little comic book cover things I thought was really, really well done. 00:22:16 Speaker 2: So a lot of, for anybody listening, a lot of them were just mimicking comic book covers of him fighting. 00:22:21 Speaker 6: That's cool. 00:22:21 Speaker 2: A couple of, The nerves is in there definitely, like, just smiling away. 00:22:24 Speaker 9: I was wondering. They did that with Deadpool and X-Men, right? I mean, Deadpool and Wolverine, they had, like, some of the iconic covers. 00:22:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. Was that Deadpool and Wolverine where he had the claws and you see the Hulk in it? Was that Deadpool and Wolverine? 00:22:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:22:39 Speaker 4: The montage in that one, too. 00:22:40 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:22:40 Speaker 4: All right. Well, yeah, Tina is in it. My girl, Tina. God damn, I love her. Did they always have a commissioner? She was so good. Sorry, what'd you say? 00:22:50 Speaker 1: Was there always like a commissioner situation in Spider-Man? 00:22:53 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's in the comics. She wasn't Latina, but she's in the comics. I'm sure Mag is mad. 00:23:00 Speaker 4: It could be. Who cares, man? It fit, though. 00:23:02 Speaker 10: She fit that role so perfect. Like with her accent and everything. It made it feel very New York. 00:23:09 Speaker 8: It was just good to me because I haven't seen her in anything but The Bear. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: And she's amazing in The Bear. So I was like, I wonder if she can do anything else. Bam. Here you go. She can. 00:23:18 Speaker 1: That was good. 00:23:19 Speaker 4: Oh, you smirking. You better not have something bad to say about Martino. No, I don't. I don't. Just making sure. I only got one real critique. Everything else, I'm good. 00:23:28 Speaker 1: I do, too. 00:23:28 Speaker 4: So I'm wondering if it's the same thing. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: But go ahead. 00:23:31 Speaker 2: So we learned that there is a... Y'all haven't watched Daredevil. So it's kind of been something as far as how to spot him. There's a lot of shit going

on. A lot of stuff going on in New York. And we're like, how to spot a man... Not aware of any of this. 00:23:46 Speaker 4: Of what's going on. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: They basically jump over that and say that now that Fisk is not the mayor, you basically got your answer. Like, this is after that. So all that fighting he was doing, it was still happening. But I just placed that that woman was from Daredevil. 00:24:02 Speaker 4: Yep. On my second watch, that's when I caught it. She's the woman from Daredevil. I knew I recognized her. So they skipped over the Daredevil. That's good. 00:24:09 Speaker 1: That's what Spike was talking about. 00:24:10 Speaker 4: He ain't even. It's a smiley face. 00:24:13 Speaker 2: The things I'm going to mention, y'all going to be like, oh, okay. 00:24:17 Speaker 8: So the woman that was giving Spider-Man the key to the city, that was the woman from Daredevil. 00:24:24 Speaker 4: The woman that was working with Fisk. Wait, didn't he give a key to the scene? 00:24:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got it. 00:24:30 Speaker 8: It was real quick, and they showed a little quick video or whatever of her giving him the key. And I was like, I know her, but then I forgot about it by the end of the film. 00:24:38 Speaker 4: Because Daredevil wasn't amazing, so I will understand why. 00:24:40 Speaker 1: Facts. 00:24:41 Speaker 4: But that's still pretty cool that they tied that in. 00:24:44 Speaker 2: And over this time, he's watching, over the four years, he's watching Ned and MJ go through MIT, and they graduate. 00:24:52 Speaker 4: And he's building. 00:24:53 Speaker 2: This relationship with the detective that we mentioned, Detective DeWolf. So similar to what I asked about Professor X and X-Men 97. 00:25:09 Speaker 1: Nay. Yeah. 00:25:11 Speaker 2: Is this form of revision and watching them more harmful or helpful for Peter? 00:25:19 Speaker 10: I think it's harmful, but it's one of those things that it's like you can't help it if you have access. It's like when you stalk an ex on Instagram or something like that. It's like, you know you shouldn't, but I got to know what's going on. 00:25:32 Speaker 6: Like, is their life better or worse without me? 00:25:34 Speaker 10: Yeah, so I do think it's definitely a negative, but it's something that everybody does. 00:25:39 Speaker 4: You feel the same, right? 00:25:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really real. 00:25:42 Speaker 9: It's a real approach to how people deal with. I mean, because that's grief, too. 00:25:48 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 00:25:48 Speaker 9: Like, all that stuff is. You know what I'm saying? It could be grief or... Well, his situation is grief. Some is, like, when they said, like, I'm just curious because, like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't work with me, so I wonder if it's working with somebody else or whatever. So, yeah, it's a natural, natural position to be in. 00:26:07 Speaker 4: You agree? 00:26:08 Speaker 1: Spike? Yeah, I agree. 00:26:10 Speaker 7: It's a natural position, like, to be curious about But it's also unhealthy for Peter because it had him just going home and not doing anything but Spider-Man stuff. 00:26:23 Speaker 4: Like he wasn't interested in. 00:26:26 Speaker 1: The girl on the elevator? 00:26:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't interested in the movie. 00:26:28 Speaker 6: Because he still loves MJ. 00:26:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, all he cared about was MJ and his other friend. 00:26:35 Speaker 1: MJ ain't there right now. 00:26:37 Speaker 4: Say what? 00:26:38 Speaker 1: I said MJ ain't there right now, though. 00:26:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that girl in the elevator was. She sure was. She went ahead and spun him a web real quick. Go back later. Ain't like MJ going, no. She don't even know him. Exactly. He's like, that was a different me, baby. He can't be mad. 00:26:55 Speaker 1: Parker Peeker. Parker Peeker. 00:27:01 Speaker 6: Parker Peeker. 00:27:04 Speaker 2: Well, Detective DeWolf is also telling him that he probably needs to get a life. 00:27:08 Speaker 4: It ain't healthy to do it. 00:27:09 Speaker 2: And in the meanwhile, he gets a notification that something is going on, that a tank is moving through the city. Ken, based on all the Spider-Man movies that you've seen, what were your thoughts on the way the swinging was first shot when we got into the film? 00:27:26 Speaker 5: Man, that shit was great. It felt like I was there. They really captured it. I also thought about the video game a lot. 00:27:37 Speaker 6: Man, I thought it was just me. 00:27:39 Speaker 5: I had to ask TJ about it just to make sure I wasn't tripping. So that was one of the first thoughts that popped in my head. And this whole action sequence will get it to pop in my head as well. But, yeah, seeing him swing, they did a really, really good job of doing that. And it actually had meaning later. It wasn't just, we're just going to show out for a minute. It actually had a point later on in the movie. A little small sort of point. 00:28:06 Speaker 1: To it that I like, too. 00:28:08 Speaker 4: Feel the same way, Mike? Swing it. Yes. Yeah, this just kind of made me wish I hadn't watched any of the trailers. Because I wish I could have just seen that. I didn't watch nothing past the first one. Well, you made us watch it. The first one? Y'all decided to watch more after that. This stuff was in the first trailer. 00:28:25 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, to the patients that's listening, after the first trailer of something, I don't bring to them the trailers after that. 00:28:31 Speaker 4: They can go watch it on their own. No, I get you, but this stuff was in the first trailer. Yeah. It's not a humongous deal. What'd you say? 00:28:37 Speaker 1: Man, I forget the trailers after we watch them. Nah. 00:28:41 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I'm not going to forget the trailer. I forget some details. I remember it, too, because I remember the close-up inside the mask. 00:28:47 Speaker 1: Yeah. Going down and down and stuff. 00:28:48

Speaker 4: And that was so dope. That whole scene was so dope. 00:28:54 Speaker 8: And I also ended up stumbling on something on Twitter that showed that the swinging was practical this time. 00:28:59 Speaker 4: And you could tell. It looked really, really, really good. 00:29:04 Speaker 9: I like that they made it practical. I mean, we've seen it in the past. It's like, okay, where is he swinging from? But this time they showed it like, okay, it's swinging from that building. 00:29:11 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:29:11 Speaker 9: It was very minor details they were showing that I liked. 00:29:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:29:17 Speaker 9: I always think they do a good job of the swinging in these movies personally. But yeah, they did put more detail in it this time. And like Ken said, it was just, it was for a reason, you know. 00:29:28 Speaker 1: So yeah. 00:29:30 Speaker 2: So do you also feel like visually, like the colors also impacted the film and like gave more of an authentic feel to New York? 00:29:40 Speaker 9: I think so. It made it grittier. It wasn't as, like, bright as it normally is. So, yeah, it did look grittier, darker. 00:29:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. 00:29:51 Speaker 9: This one, it felt groaner, you know. It's how this movie. 00:29:56 Speaker 4: Felt to me. 00:29:57 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: So, and then, like, the colors, the person who did the colors is also a person, the person who does the colors on Euphoria, Severance, and White Lotus. So that same production company basically, like, did this one, too. 00:30:13 Speaker 9: And it definitely looks significantly better in Dolby Cinema, because I saw it in Laser, too, with them. 00:30:22 Speaker 1: So I would recommend going back and seeing it in a different format. 00:30:24 Speaker 6: I'm going to see it in 4DX. 00:30:25 Speaker 1: But it definitely looks better. 00:30:27 Speaker 5: You could be swinging for real. 00:30:32 Speaker 10: When I was watching him swing, I was like, damn, I wish I was in 4DX right now. 00:30:36 Speaker 6: I feel the wind blowing in my face. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:30:40 Speaker 1: Man, just try it. 00:30:41 Speaker 4: Not for this. Not for no damn Spider-Man. I'm spilling my drink. 00:30:45 Speaker 1: Don't do it, bro. 00:30:46 Speaker 4: Come out of that motherfucker with an apple. 00:30:47 Speaker 6: We'll see Odyssey again in 4DX. That was an experience. 00:30:51 Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. 00:30:52 Speaker 6: She didn't like it. 00:30:52 Speaker 4: How I'm going to go to sleep if the chair is always moving? That's the point. 00:30:57 Speaker 6: Oh, that was amazing. 00:30:58 Speaker 2: So, Spike, I know you're not the biggest action person, but you saw this scene, some pieces of the scene in the trailer. 00:31:04 Speaker 4: Did it feel a little bit different in the film? Him swinging from the buildings? 00:31:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, or even like the chase with Punisher and all that, like those interactions, did it feel different? 00:31:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did. 00:31:14 Speaker 7: It felt very superhero, very comic book-y. Like, they nailed it, like, what they were trying to do. 00:31:22 Speaker 2: So, Nay, you weren't here for the trailer reaction, but how did you feel about seeing Punisher and this action scene going through the city before we got to damage control? 00:31:31 Speaker 4: Was it a good scene? 00:31:33 Speaker 10: So, I mean, the action sequence, like, from him swinging on the buildings to, like, the tank and Punisher and all of that, it was cool. 00:31:42 Speaker 5: Um. 00:31:43 Speaker 10: For me, these scenes tend to feel like a little bit of filler and to satisfy those people who are looking for the action. So I think they did a good job there, but it doesn't necessarily excite me. 00:31:58 Speaker 6: Until it has reason. 00:32:00 Speaker 10: I think the action sequences at the end, once it has some meaning in the whole story of things, is a lot more impactful than these opening ones. 00:32:07 Speaker 6: It's just like, boom, pow, piff, and we're here. 00:32:10 Speaker 2: I see you can, bro. I could stay watching that nigga swing forever. 00:32:13 Speaker 4: Hey, I played the Spider-Man game and I beat it. I just get on that game sometimes just to swing, bro. 00:32:18 Speaker 1: It's Spider-Man, so you want to see that. 00:32:22 Speaker 4: I beat the game. I get it now. You didn't explain. It was just me that was confused. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: I know you have some Web Puberty 2 shit going on. 00:32:29 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: You just swing around the city forever, man. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: That's all you do in the game? No, it's a whole game, but after you beat all the missions, you can... just swing around the city for how long you want. 00:32:38 Speaker 1: I still haven't beaten the game. Miles has beaten both of them. 00:32:41 Speaker 4: Because your ass just swinging around the city for no damn reason. 00:32:43 Speaker 1: I probably did. What am I supposed to do? Outward hour. 00:32:46 Speaker 4: Crime. 00:32:47 Speaker 1: They done committed the crime and ran off. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: So we get through the city and we end up at damage control and Spider-Man gets the tank open and something suspicious is just happening to people around him. what was your first suspicion, Rod, of what might have been going on? Like, as a Spider-Man fan, I know you're not probably, like, it's kind of, probably was a little freaky compared to other Spider-Man films, so how'd you. 00:33:19 Speaker 1: Feel about it? It was, it was. Like I said, it was a little eerie, you know what I mean? 00:33:25 Speaker 9: Like, the way even the actors were getting possessed or whatever, so I had no clue who this foe was. Like, I had no, Zero clue. And I feel like y'all knew. Did y'all know when we watched the trailer? 00:33:41 Speaker 4: I knew it was between two people. 00:33:42 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay. 00:33:43 Speaker 9: Because I thought when it happened, I was like,

oh, or whatever. And for me, I was just like, I have no clue who this is. So they did a really good job at not revealing that. And I think they did a good job at making it a lot of men afterwards that it kept switching to. Because it started off as the woman, but after that, I noticed that it was switching to... So it kind of puts your mind there. It's like a psychology thing to think, oh, this must be some guy or whatever. So, no, I think they did a really good job executing that in so many moments when they were going, jumping from person to person. 00:34:18 Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, they are killing this. 00:34:20 Speaker 9: So, yeah, no, I really enjoyed how they executed this part. 00:34:28 Speaker 10: Y'all seen that movie Fallen with Denzel Washington? I was like, what in the Fallen hell? I literally said that out loud. 00:34:33 Speaker 6: I was like, it's the devil possessing these people. What's going on? Yeah, so it really gave that for me. And I was like, okay, but yeah, I had no idea who was possessing. 00:34:43 Speaker 10: But it immediately made me say, they took this out of Fallen. 00:34:49 Speaker 5: I thought it was a dope continuation from the tank because he wasn't just stopping this random, like, thing that was happening, which I thought all that was dope, even with Frank Castle popping up, having the second gun and putting the web on his mouth to stop him from cursing. All that was dope, seeing him in action. He didn't have to kick him through that van. 00:35:12 Speaker 1: Man, that was so cool. He didn't have to do that man like that. 00:35:17 Speaker 5: But nah, but then you get in there and you see, nah, this is somebody that has potential to be a problem. And Spider-Man... From what we've seen, he hasn't really fought a lot of people like that. They have tech and stuff like that in the movies. So this one seems a little bit different. And I'm like, Spidey, you need to move faster because this thing is moving and it's already on the roof and we ain't seen you yet. 00:35:43 Speaker 1: And she's about to take off. So all of this was dope. 00:35:47 Speaker 5: And the way it was possessing each person, yeah, I thought that was dope too. 00:35:51 Speaker 1: The actors that they hired to do that did a really good job. 00:35:54 Speaker 6: Yes, really good job. 00:35:54 Speaker 1: They did. 00:35:56 Speaker 2: Who were the two you were suspicious about? I thought it was either Jean Grey or. 00:36:04 Speaker 8: I don't remember the girl's name. There's a Spider-Man villain that can jump from body to body like that. 00:36:09 Speaker 1: It's a woman. 00:36:09 Speaker 4: I just can't think of her name right now. I assumed... Say again? 00:36:14 Speaker 1: No, no, go ahead. 00:36:15 Speaker 4: I was going to say, I assumed it was Jean Grey. 00:36:17 Speaker 6: Really? 00:36:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was like, this would be. 00:36:19 Speaker 8: And plus, they released the person playing her. 00:36:23 Speaker 4: So I was like,

okay, it's a redhead. 00:36:25 Speaker 1: It's clearly Jean Grey. We didn't see her until later, though. 00:36:27 Speaker 4: No, I know. But before walking into the movie, I knew. 00:36:29 Speaker 1: You got spoiled. 00:36:30 Speaker 8: Yeah, it got spoiled because they released, oh, Sadie Sink is in the movie. And then in the trailer that Jalen made us watch, you see her, like, doing this. So I was like, oh, it's Jean Grey. 00:36:41 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:42 Speaker 10: Oh, I didn't have any of that context. I'd seen Sadie Sink. I'd seen her on the red carpet stuff because the Zendaya stuff's been everywhere with her fashion. But I saw her, but I still didn't put two and two together. I was like, what's she doing on the carpet? 00:36:58 Speaker 1: Y'all see that clip? Yeah. Of her? Smiling While Her Friends Are Crying. It's a Stranger Things clip. Oh, yeah. 00:37:05 Speaker 2: Everybody else is going to be jobless and I just got hired by Marvel. 00:37:10 Speaker 4: That's mean, man. My boy Lucas is in something. 00:37:13 Speaker 8: He just signed on. He just signed on for something. He about to play Morgan Freeman's brother. 00:37:21 Speaker 1: She played in another Marvel movie? 00:37:23 Speaker 4: No, she was in Stranger Things. Yeah, I remember that, but I thought she played in something else. 00:37:27 Speaker 1: No, this is her first Marvel. But, um... Is Lucas going to be Miles Morales? Did I see that somewhere? 00:37:32 Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. They bet not. That would be weird. They bet not. I swear they bet not. 00:37:36 Speaker 6: Why not? 00:37:37 Speaker 4: He's not Spanish. 00:37:38 Speaker 6: Like, he's not Afro-Latino. True, true shame. 00:37:41 Speaker 4: He don't look like a teenager either. No, he could be Miles Morales' daddy. The uncle who got killed. 00:37:45 Speaker 1: The prowler uncle. 00:37:47 Speaker 4: He could be him. Prowler, prowler. He could be him. 00:37:51 Speaker 2: Plus, I don't think, he hasn't, I mean, I haven't seen him in anything as an actor to be like, yeah. 00:37:57 Speaker 6: He did that cowboy movie with Idris. 00:38:00 Speaker 4: He was just in something that I saw, and I was like, oh. 00:38:03 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 00:38:03 Speaker 6: He's a good actor. He played the hell in it. 00:38:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a good actor. 00:38:05 Speaker 6: He did really good in New Edition. 00:38:07 Speaker 1: So did y'all see this? Lord. Did y'all see the Steve Lacey thing? 00:38:11 Speaker 6: I didn't hear about that. 00:38:13 Speaker 2: I stayed away from everything. Like, I muted Spiderman. I didn't want anything from Spiderman. 00:38:16 Speaker 1: He spoiled it, right? Yeah, he did. He fortunately told me so I didn't get spoiled. 00:38:20 Speaker 4: That's why he messed up. 00:38:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's a musician, right? 00:38:23 Speaker 10: I think he's a musician. Bree's really into him. And he said something in an interview that kind of gave away. 00:38:28 Speaker 1: How do you know? 00:38:29 Speaker 6: Because he was at the premiere. 00:38:30 Speaker 10: He was at one of the premieres, and they interviewed him, and he made a statement that kind of gave it away. 00:38:35 Speaker 6: So I don't know what it is. I didn't listen to it. 00:38:37 Speaker 4: I stayed away from everything. Whooped his ass, man. 00:38:40 Speaker 1: Believe me, they won't. 00:38:41 Speaker 4: Hey, believe me. It was about Jean Grey that he gave away who the villain was. He said Jean. He mentioned Jean in the interview. Oh, he's a hoe. They should have really whooped his ass. He didn't do it on purpose. He didn't do it on accident. He's not of the... Yeah, he's not. 00:38:57 Speaker 6: You went to go watch the movie and they asked you what you liked about the movie. Man, Gene was like. 00:39:01 Speaker 10: He got invited to the premiere because his music is. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: In the movie. So he's not a comic book person. He's just like, oh, I like Gene in the movie. Then he's a dumbass because it was clearly. 00:39:11 Speaker 8: A secret until it was revealed. 00:39:14 Speaker 4: So he's a dumb fuck. A dumb guy. He's a darn, darn person. That's what he is. You by yourself on this one, boss. By myself on what? Blaming this fool? Y'all must like him as a sports guy. No, I just know it wasn't. Because that's the dumbest shit. mistake. I just know it was an innocent mistake. 00:39:33 Speaker 1: That's dumb as hell. 00:39:34 Speaker 6: I mean, it happens. I can see it happening. 00:39:36 Speaker 4: He dumb. That's not some shit you would do. 00:39:40 Speaker 9: That's a major giveaway, though. 00:39:44 Speaker 6: They shouldn't interview nobody after the movie, then. I mean, at the end of the day, like. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: Well, after speaking to the detective, Spider-Man then visits Yelena to get more thoughts. 00:39:55 Speaker 4: About what may be going on. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: Big potato. 00:39:58 Speaker 4: What did y'all think of the scene? 00:40:01 Speaker 2: From the dark tone to the jokes here, did it land well for y'all in the scene? 00:40:06 Speaker 1: Which part are you talking about? 00:40:07 Speaker 4: Where he goes to meet Yelena in the spa. Oh, I liked her. You liked her? I liked her, yeah. 00:40:13 Speaker 1: I did. I did. 00:40:15 Speaker 4: Did she play in something else? She was in Midsommar. She lived, clearly. 00:40:20 Speaker 6: She was in Thunderbolts. She's the main one in Thunderbolts. 00:40:24 Speaker 9: She's the main character. 00:40:28 Speaker 8: All blonde, white women look alike. That could have been Gwyneth Paltrow. That could have been Cici Sweeney. 00:40:35 Speaker 4: It was the accent, but I was like, I still don't know where I knew her from. 00:40:38 Speaker 6: Aw, bless it. 00:40:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked her. 00:40:41 Speaker 6: Teeny, teeny potatoes. 00:40:43 Speaker 4: Nah, it was cool. Yeah, we were at the big potatoes. But that nigga was relaxing in that water. 00:40:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was

funny. 00:40:55 Speaker 4: That was really funny. 00:40:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. 00:41:00 Speaker 4: That was funny. Yeah. Nah, it was good. 00:41:03 Speaker 1: And that was her office for real. 00:41:05 Speaker 2: If you would love to have more content from Frames Per Second, become a patron where you can contribute to what we review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power to nominate and vote a monthly discussion and film review, while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from each cast member. You also get the opportunity to vote on the publicly released anniversary film, all exclusive to our Patreon. So become a patron at patreon.com frames per second, where there are two tiers you can choose from. That's patreon.com forward slash frames per second. Well, Spider-Man learns from Yolanda that this tank chase may be connected to four other cyber attacks and that this person is also looking for VMAX. So he uses that information to visit the facility itself to gain more information where he meets Bill Mixer to offer his help basically to secure the threat. 00:42:01 Speaker 4: Did you trust him, Spike? 00:42:03 Speaker 7: No, and I thought about that when I seen him. I was like, so is this dude going to be typecast now for the rest of his career? I'm always going to know he's the evil villain. Like, it don't matter what it is that he's playing here. 00:42:15 Speaker 4: So, no, I didn't trust him at all. What else have you seen of him other than Severance? 00:42:18 Speaker 1: That's all. He was in Mission Impossible. 00:42:21 Speaker 4: He sure was. Was he the evil guy in that? 00:42:23 Speaker 1: No. 00:42:24 Speaker 4: He wasn't the bad guy in Mission Impossible. 00:42:26 Speaker 1: No, he was on the submarine. They had to come out of a. 00:42:30 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's right. 00:42:31 Speaker 1: But he did want to go kill some folks, though. He was happy to do that. But, yeah, he was in that. Did he always have hair like that? 00:42:40 Speaker 4: No. He looked different in this, I thought. He did. He had hair in severance. I've only seen him in severance. He had hair, but he said like that. 00:42:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked something. 00:42:47 Speaker 8: And he had more of a beard, I think, or something. Something looked different to me. Not anything bad. I didn't recognize him for a couple seconds. 00:42:56 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not alone. 00:42:57 Speaker 4: I know you didn't trust him. 00:42:59 Speaker 1: No. No, I didn't. 00:43:01 Speaker 4: I just know Ken. I know Ken ain't trust him. Did y'all trust him? 00:43:04 Speaker 1: He was talking too smooth. Yeah, I didn't trust him. 00:43:07 Speaker 4: And I know you didn't either. 00:43:09 Speaker 8: No, because by this point, again, because of the freaking trailers, I already put together what Damage Control was doing. 00:43:16 Speaker 4: I didn't trust Damage Control based on what they were doing in other shows. Yeah, that too. So I was just like, oh, yeah, I don't trust you because of everything else. 00:43:22 Speaker 8: Because they've been doing this since she, well, no, you said Homecoming. But they've been showing that they were doing weird stuff since She-Hulk, right? 00:43:30 Speaker 4: Everything else, they've been doing nefarious stuff. 00:43:33 Speaker 1: So, yeah. 00:43:33 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:43:34 Speaker 6: I mean, they should have known something was up when they had the red ninjas. 00:43:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was another day of giveaway. 00:43:38 Speaker 6: That was like an immediate red flag. 00:43:40 Speaker 1: Oh, that was wild. 00:43:41 Speaker 4: You did that on purpose. I did not. 00:43:43 Speaker 1: Yes, you did. 00:43:43 Speaker 4: You planned that. 00:43:45 Speaker 8: Bars. 00:43:46 Speaker 10: That was an immediate indicator that something was wrong. And I felt like Spidey picked up on it. 00:43:52 Speaker 6: But maybe not. 00:43:53 Speaker 4: He asked, but he seemed like he believed him. 00:43:55 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was. 00:43:56 Speaker 1: A little reluctant. That was weird. But he bought in real quick, though. 00:44:01 Speaker 4: He did. 00:44:01 Speaker 9: He did buy in, but he was a little reluctant. 00:44:03 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't care if you say so. 00:44:06 Speaker 2: I mean, I usually catch it at Spiderman unless you give him something that's absolutely off. He's going to do what's right. So that's why it doesn't bother me. Me and my friend was arguing about it. He would never agree to that. I was like, nah, I could see him agreeing to it because it's not a complete bad thing. 00:44:23 Speaker 4: And he's a kid. 00:44:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:44:25 Speaker 6: He ain't no kid. 00:44:26 Speaker 4: He's 18. He ain't 22. 00:44:28 Speaker 6: Well, in the movie. 00:44:29 Speaker 4: In the movie, he's 22? 00:44:30 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been four years. 00:44:32 Speaker 1: It's four years since college. 00:44:34 Speaker 4: They graduated. I went to art school. I don't do math. So thank y'all. Because I never thought about it. I was like, oh, bless his little young heart. 00:44:44 Speaker 1: Ned was talking about that. 00:44:46 Speaker 4: That was the whole premise of the movie. You ain't got to rub it in, man. You ain't got to rub it in either, Ken. 00:44:52 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:44:52 Speaker 5: Next question. 00:44:55 Speaker 6: Like the whole premise was a spider, an adult spider. 00:44:59 Speaker 4: I just didn't. 00:45:01 Speaker 8: I think the whole thing was I was putting puberty in my head when he was doing the whole changing and cocooning. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: So I think I was just. I wasn't thinking about that. 00:45:10 Speaker 10: So let's talk about this from a female perspective, because this is one of the things that's going on on the Internet. It's about this like Spider-Man that grew up and in that in that pool. No, but this is part of the thing. And and he's mentioned this in interviews. And then when you get to the pool

scene with Elena, it's like, oh, no, he a man. So I think that a lot of women, that's what I'm saying, from the beginning of this movie to throughout, this whole concept of him growing up, even physically. 00:45:39 Speaker 6: Tom Holland is on the internet. 00:45:41 Speaker 4: He's on all sides. 00:45:44 Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing. 00:45:47 Speaker 4: Do we want to go to 40X? You want to see what them spider nuts feel like? 00:45:53 Speaker 6: Spider nuts. 00:45:54 Speaker 2: And so we transition to Peter briefly talking to the detective in a bodega about the information he got from damage control. But then he's interrupted by Ned's appearance when Ned comes in to get energy drinks and some kegs for the party. 00:46:09 Speaker 4: This prompts Ned. 00:46:11 Speaker 2: To follow him back to his apartment where him and MJ are having a party. I love the use of Tame Impala's Loser. 00:46:18 Speaker 1: Song right here, bro. 00:46:19 Speaker 4: It just fit. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: Oh, that's why you were playing it. I mean, that's one of my most played songs from last year. And then it fits. He's basically telling the girl, I'm just fucking up my life. 00:46:28 Speaker 4: I'm a loser. I'm sorry. I want to be with you. So it just fit perfectly for a party song. And that moment was like, oh, this is perfect. That's cool. 00:46:38 Speaker 2: Spike, was it more weird that Peter just got up and followed Ned or that Ned was keeping those clippings of Spider-Man in his room. 00:46:49 Speaker 7: I would definitely expect Ned to have those clippings of Spider-Man in his room. So that didn't come off as weird, but it was definitely weird for Peter to follow him to the party and then be hanging out there and stuff. 00:47:04 Speaker 1: You agree, Ned? 00:47:05 Speaker 10: I mean, it was very stalkerish. Ned is very unaware of his surroundings. This did not come off New York at all. 00:47:11 Speaker 1: And.... 00:47:14 Speaker 10: But at the same time, he knows wherever Ned's going to be, MJ's going to be. 00:47:18 Speaker 6: So he's trying to go see his girl. So, I mean, ultimately, yes, it's stalkerish. 00:47:24 Speaker 4: How about you, Mike? What is the actual question? I'm sorry. Was it weird? Yeah, was it weird? That Peter followed him into his room? 00:47:33 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:47:33 Speaker 4: Was that weird? 00:47:34 Speaker 2: Or just him being like Ned? weird for all the clippings. 00:47:38 Speaker 8: I think Peter following him into his room is way weirder than Ned having pictures of a superhero on his wall. Like, that makes sense to me. Like, why wouldn't you if there was a real life superhero? A lot of y'all had Obama pictures all over your bedrooms. So, I mean, this dude can have Spider-Man. 00:47:54 Speaker 4: And just so y'all know, I ain't skipping over y'all. There's a lot of stuff to get through. We know. 00:47:59 Speaker 2: We know how Rod does. You might want to move this along. I've been trying to be quiet. Yeah, I ain't skipping over you, man. I'm trying to get through it. After a brief conversation between Ned and Peter. Also, shout out to that Naruto post on Ned's wall. 00:48:12 Speaker 4: MJ walks in. Had to do it. Had to do it. 00:48:15 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 00:48:16 Speaker 4: Take it back. Take it back. Take it back. 00:48:19 Speaker 2: MJ walks in and meets Peter for the first time. Well, what she thinks is the first time. Did Peter have to lie about his name in that moment? 00:48:27 Speaker 6: Maynard. 00:48:28 Speaker 4: He did. 00:48:28 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:48:36 Speaker 6: Because he'd already introduced himself as Peter Parker four years ago in the coffee shop. 00:48:41 Speaker 1: She forgot? 00:48:42 Speaker 4: She forgot everything, apparently. 00:48:45 Speaker 6: No, that was after he zapped her mind. 00:48:47 Speaker 1: I thought he was just kind of nervous, anxious. 00:48:51 Speaker 4: On the spot. 00:48:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the spot. Didn't really know what to say when he saw her. So, yeah. 00:48:59 Speaker 5: He probably felt like it was the safest thing to do to keep her protected. Until he saw that girl, that air kissing that guy. 00:49:07 Speaker 6: All the protection went out the window at that point. It went to Patty, huh? 00:49:10 Speaker 1: You agree, right? By the name? 00:49:13 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. 00:49:14 Speaker 9: Y'all are bringing up a good point, though, because he did. What's the time range right here? 00:49:19 Speaker 4: Four years. Four years later. 18 to 22, apparently. Yeah. I don't know. 00:49:28 Speaker 9: I don't know if he had to give her... I don't get why you're saying he had to give her a different name. 00:49:32 Speaker 6: So, he. 00:49:34 Speaker 10: It's a possibility she could have remembered him from when he was going to give her the letter and all of that. So he'd already introduced himself to her as Peter Parker. She has a really good memory and remembers faces. 00:49:47 Speaker 6: She'd be like, oh, I met you already, right? 00:49:49 Speaker 8: Right. 00:49:50 Speaker 4: But would it have hurt anything if he was like, oh, yeah. 00:49:53 Speaker 10: That's weird if I meet you for a year, like before I go to MIT and now randomly in a coffee shop and now you're popping up. 00:50:02 Speaker 6: At my graduation party. 00:50:03 Speaker 4: I would think that was weird. 00:50:03 Speaker 6: It's kind of weird. 00:50:04 Speaker 4: It's four years later. 00:50:05 Speaker 6: That's because you're not a woman. 00:50:08 Speaker 4: Oh, so you think she would have thought it was weird that he was following her around? 00:50:10 Speaker 10: I would have absolutely thought it was weird because the only thing he said to her in that scene was like, oh, I hope you guys have a good time at MIT, right? So, yeah, in that scene, he mentioned that he knew he had, the only conversation he had was about them going to college. 00:50:23 Speaker 6: So now I'm graduating and you're like, right. Yeah, that would be weird. 00:50:28 Speaker 4: That'd be

weird. 00:50:29 Speaker 2: Even the way he described why he was there. He was like, I didn't invite you. And they was like, I didn't invite him either. 00:50:33 Speaker 4: He was like, I'm a neighbor. I didn't think about all that, but that makes sense. 00:50:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:50:36 Speaker 4: So did he do May nerd? Was that like on purpose? Like for Aunt May? Aunt May, yeah, I thought it was Aunt May. I thought that was corny. I guess you can't say cute. No, I thought it was sweet. Sweet, that's a better word, I guess. 00:50:50 Speaker 1: Right, Spike? 00:50:51 Speaker 4: Sweet over cute? Either one goes. 00:50:54 Speaker 5: Okay, cool. 00:50:55 Speaker 1: I didn't pick that up. 00:50:57 Speaker 4: He went May nerd. 00:51:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even put them together. 00:51:02 Speaker 4: See, everybody on my team went, oh. 00:51:04 Speaker 1: Really? 00:51:05 Speaker 4: Really? I know they did. I know they did. 00:51:10 Speaker 2: But Mike, did the conversation that Ned and MJ were having in the kitchen, did it fit her character? Or did it feel like the movie was trying to change who she was a little bit? 00:51:19 Speaker 4: It 100% fit her character. 00:51:21 Speaker 8: Of I got a job, but I don't think I want to take it. 00:51:23 Speaker 4: That part you're talking about? Yeah, basically. Yeah, that's 100% how they build her up until now. 00:51:29 Speaker 1: But yeah. 00:51:30 Speaker 8: And I was mad for Pete when Ezra asked, walked in, and they started kissing. 00:51:34 Speaker 4: I mean, he's good looking too, Pete. 00:51:37 Speaker 2: So, I mean, we hear, I mean, Peter watches this interaction in the distance, but he also learned she got a boyfriend and this nigga kiss her right in front of him. 00:51:43 Speaker 4: That was sad. 00:51:44 Speaker 6: You said it so. 00:51:46 Speaker 2: So, did at least this hit for you when he was swinging and crying and thinking about the past? 00:51:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did. 00:51:53 Speaker 4: They did a good job. I swear he was going to cry. Yeah. 00:51:58 Speaker 1: Not like. I'm just asking, was this a good part? I know what you're asking. 00:52:05 Speaker 4: This is a good part, yeah. 00:52:06 Speaker 1: It is a good part. 00:52:07 Speaker 4: It really is. 00:52:08 Speaker 1: You know what? I think this was the beginning. I think this was the start. 00:52:12 Speaker 4: This is a good point. 00:52:13 Speaker 1: I'm with Rod. It wasn't necessarily at the kiss. It was just like, you could just tell his emotion. He did a really good job. 00:52:19 Speaker 4: He did. 00:52:20 Speaker 1: He's an actor for me. And looking hurt, yes. 00:52:23 Speaker 4: Because that's his real girl. 00:52:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:52:25 Speaker 4: In real life. Yeah. He had to. 00:52:30 Speaker 10: Watch his wife tongue down a whole other man in his face. 00:52:33 Speaker 4: Right. 00:52:34 Speaker 1: So he was hurt for real. He was. 00:52:37 Speaker 9: But no, yeah, this was the beginning of it, I think. Because, yeah, man, he looked really hurt. Something else I wanted to say. But, yeah, that's the main thing. 00:52:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was... So I'm not alone. 00:52:49 Speaker 4: No, not at all. I felt terrible for him. He should have been happy for her. 00:52:53 Speaker 6: They should have moved on and found love. 00:52:54 Speaker 4: I was happy for her because she deserves it. But at the same time, I was. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: Just like, no, I ain't happy for her. 00:53:01 Speaker 4: That's some hater shit. No, because Peter Parker is me and I'm Peter Parker. So you're a stalker and a creeper? 00:53:07 Speaker 6: Ryan, don't be petty. 00:53:09 Speaker 4: Be happy for her. 00:53:10 Speaker 1: You got to get through college. I don't need no boyfriend. 00:53:13 Speaker 4: That's true, too. That's true, too. I know. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: I did. 00:53:15 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was happy for her, but I felt bad for him because he was destroyed. 00:53:20 Speaker 1: That's his fault. 00:53:21 Speaker 4: It's not his fault. 00:53:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have told her. 00:53:24 Speaker 4: See, now he's back. Now, see, now he's back. I mean, in the long run, it is his fault. If you really think about the grand scheme of things. She figured it out. He messed up the spell. He didn't tell her. I'm talking about this whole thing. Oh, the spell stuff. Yeah, like in the long, if you look at it long game, it's like, yeah, all this is your fault. I think that's Dr. Strange's fault because he's an adult and he messed up the damn spell. 00:53:42 Speaker 1: I mean, Dr. Strange is kind of. Right. Thanks, Ken. 00:53:47 Speaker 9: What I was going to say is that I felt like the trailers kind of alluded to Ned and her being together. 00:53:53 Speaker 1: No, I never got that. 00:53:55 Speaker 6: Oh, I didn't watch the trailers, but I can't say that. 00:53:58 Speaker 4: Really? 00:53:59 Speaker 1: I think we talked about that, didn't we? 00:54:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a little bit. I don't remember talking about that. 00:54:02 Speaker 1: It made it seem like they were going to be together. Yeah, I was expecting that to happen. 00:54:07 Speaker 4: That would have been super weird. 00:54:08 Speaker 1: It would have been. 00:54:09 Speaker 9: I was expecting them to be an item and not just some other random guy. 00:54:13 Speaker 5: Was Ned acting differently in this one? Was he supposed to be just older? 00:54:17 Speaker 1: He got cooler. 00:54:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got cooler. 00:54:18 Speaker 6: He's confident. 00:54:19 Speaker 4: He just feel like he's confident. 00:54:20 Speaker 1: All right. 00:54:20 Speaker 10: Which a lot of like, especially the nerdy kids in high school, like they go to college and they kind of find their niche and they, you know, they swag. 00:54:26 Speaker 4: Come out with a little step. 00:54:27 Speaker 1: Okay. All right. 00:54:29 Speaker 6: They get comfortable in their nerdiness. 00:54:31 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:54:32 Speaker 4: Why are you looking

at me, man? Look at your notes. No, because you looked at me like... I wasn't even looking at you. You probably got cooler. Good for you. Good for you. Can't relate. So I just want to go back real quick. 00:54:47 Speaker 5: I know we still have a whole hour and a half or whatever to get through. 00:54:52 Speaker 1: Are y'all saying Tom Holland and Zendaya married in real life? Yes. 00:54:57 Speaker 6: You just not realizing it? 00:55:00 Speaker 4: They got married and realized. What? When did this happen? We don't really know. 00:55:06 Speaker 1: When did y'all find out? When did y'all find out? I'm sorry. 00:55:10 Speaker 4: I found out today, Ken. So you're not crazy. I found out like the end of last year, maybe the beginning of this year. 00:55:14 Speaker 10: So La Roche accidentally, like in a, I don't remember what red carpet it was, but her stylist mentioned that they were already married. So, yeah, there's been AI videos or pictures floating around of, you know, people creating AI videos of them being married. But she's wearing her ring. They're calling each other husband and wife in interviews and stuff. 00:55:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a known thing. 00:55:34 Speaker 4: I saw one of the interviews where he was like, yeah, I get to work with my wife. That's sweet. That's really sweet. 00:55:39 Speaker 6: Y'all are so behind. 00:55:41 Speaker 1: My God. Normally, my wife keeps me up to date with the news. 00:55:45 Speaker 5: And the gossips and the stuff from people and all the other stuff she goes through. 00:55:49 Speaker 1: Somehow, this one... Didn't make it. 00:55:51 Speaker 10: Yeah, they were talking. It's been part of the Odyssey press and all of that. 00:55:55 Speaker 8: These are things that I get it. These are things that you and I would not be watching. So that's why neither one of us would know that they're married. So you're not crazy. You're just crazy that we said this 15 minutes ago and it just registered now. That's the part that's funny to me. 00:56:10 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just letting y'all talk. 00:56:12 Speaker 6: You're trying to make sure you heard what you heard. 00:56:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm processing it. Wait a minute. 15 minutes. 00:56:15 Speaker 4: Wait, what's this? 00:56:18 Speaker 6: Do they mean like literally? 00:56:24 Speaker 2: Well, once he's back in his apartment, he rereads the letter that he intended to give to MJ, but ends up collapsing because he's going through some changes from like, as he looks at his arms and his eyes are turning black. But during this time, we also get sent back in time to one of Peter's memories of a conversation with Aunt. 00:56:42 Speaker 4: May about how things are about to change. 00:56:46 Speaker 2: We already had got a little bit of this scene earlier. Did y'all feel like this scene was going to carry on to something heavy later on? Or did you just feel like they were just using this as a point of reference? 00:56:56 Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like it was like, cause I mean, they, they shut it off for a reason. I feel like, you know, so I was like, Oh, they don't come back to that. 00:57:02 Speaker 4: It's gone. 00:57:02 Speaker 9: It's going to play a part in this whole thing. 00:57:05 Speaker 1: Cause we, we've never seen this moment. Right. 00:57:08 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:57:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:57:09 Speaker 4: It's basically alluding to the time when she found out he was Spider-Man. 00:57:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. Got it. Yeah. 00:57:15 Speaker 2: Um, So Peter then wakes up to find himself in a webbing attached to the building. This is basically, to me, this is like the connection to the 2002 Spider-Man. 00:57:25 Speaker 4: All this was the piece there. 00:57:27 Speaker 2: Because Tom Holland speaks about how he was, over the years, looking at fan forums and listening to podcasts about Spider-Man, what the fans really wanted. And so he was taking pieces from the movies that people really like, even the suit and everything. He was really committed to making sure the fans got all the big pieces that they loved the most. which I really appreciate it um Rod what did you think of the way they showed like Spider-Man's heightened senses like through like the the camera work and visuals that they were doing when they showed it like his his senses were just on. 00:57:58 Speaker 9: 10 no yeah this is really dope um sound effects is really good here um. 00:58:05 Speaker 1: Just like uh what else. 00:58:07 Speaker 9: Did they do uh like even the webbing like almost like cobweb in a in a way um So, no, I thought they executed this really, really well. And you kind of get the sense of what was going on. And I think at first I didn't know if it was tied to, it seemed like it was more so tied to what he was going through, the grief and everything, and more so than him becoming an adult. So that part I was a little confused on, on which is, what part is causing this? 00:58:39 Speaker 1: Is it both? 00:58:41 Speaker 9: Is he getting older or is it or he just had this traumatic experience? Because I think the Edith or who's the machine? 00:58:49 Speaker 1: Edith was the glasses. 00:58:50 Speaker 6: OK, so. 00:58:51 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:58:53 Speaker 9: So, yeah, she said something about did you recently experience something traumatic or something like that? 00:58:58 Speaker 8: Right. 00:59:00 Speaker 1: So I was a little confused on that part. 00:59:01 Speaker 6: I thought it was both. 00:59:03 Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought it was both that like the maturation process is triggered by a traumatic event. 00:59:10 Speaker 6: Almost. 00:59:10 Speaker 10: In which a lot of cases, like, in life, that, like, you go through something traumatic and it forces you to grow up. 00:59:15 Speaker 1: Don was like, does he want to do a metamorphosis? 00:59:17 Speaker 2: He did. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: How does he know big old words like that? That's a crazy word. Got them people words. You know what I'm saying? Is this a prototypical metamorphosis?

00:59:28 Speaker 6: He literally would say that. 00:59:31 Speaker 4: That's hilarious. It is. 00:59:34 Speaker 2: So, Mike, Spider-Man then has to head to the crime scene where he learned that Scorpion isn't tearing up the city. And during the confrontation, he learns that the mysterious force that he saw earlier is basically there and he doesn't recognize it. What did you think of this scene that Spider-Man just started? 00:59:56 Speaker 4: Going to work. Oh, you're talking about when he just bugged out and he hit the police? Oh, man. This part was really good. Really, really, really good. 01:00:04 Speaker 8: The whole fight scene between him and Scorpion was great. But when he changed and his eyes went black or whatever and he slammed into that cop car, I was like, oh, he's going to have to pay for that because he didn't do that on purpose. I thought all this, the rage that was coming out of him, this was really well done. And then Tina, of course, running up and being like, you need to chill out. 01:00:29 Speaker 4: This isn't you, Spider-Man. I love this. Anything with Tina, I'm automatically going to like the scene. 01:00:34 Speaker 8: But I just thought the way she was very motherly to him, because she could tell he was freaking out. 01:00:38 Speaker 4: Even through the suit. Tom Holland's good, man. 01:00:40 Speaker 1: I was going to say, his reaction. 01:00:42 Speaker 6: He looked like he was so scared. Like, what did I do? He is an acting fool. 01:00:46 Speaker 4: He is. What did you think, Cam? 01:00:51 Speaker 5: First of all, I didn't know Scorpion could get down like that, so... Yeah, Gene Gray fought better than he did when he used the tail to go through the fight. So I'm with you, Michael, on that whole fight scene. 01:01:01 Speaker 9: I feel like he was like that on Friendly Neighborhood Fighter, man. 01:01:06 Speaker 1: Well, that's the animated one, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't surprising that he was good. Yeah, but it was a good scene in live action. 01:01:15 Speaker 5: This is what I was talking about, like, with the webbing, because he couldn't use his web, and we saw how good he was able to swing before, and now he couldn't. 01:01:22 Speaker 1: So this kind of brought that back around. I thought that was dope. 01:01:25 Speaker 5: But the wolf was, she was wrong for this shit. Like, she immediately, like, I didn't get motherly. 01:01:33 Speaker 4: What? 01:01:33 Speaker 5: As soon as she hit the cop, she was like, hey, man, you just hit this cop. You almost killed the cop. It seemed like she was, like, defending the institution. 01:01:42 Speaker 4: No, she... You acting like me more than me. Stop it. That's not what she was doing. She did turn on him. That is not what she did. 01:01:50 Speaker 1: I watched it twice. She turned on him. The first time I was like, dang, she had to do it like that. They've been on the phone. 01:01:56 Speaker 6: He almost killed a cop in front of cops. 01:01:58 Speaker 4: And that's going to

make him look bad. That's what she was worried about. It was an accident. It wasn't an accident. 01:02:05 Speaker 5: No, the cop car was just driving up and it was in the wrong spot. 01:02:09 Speaker 8: And he slammed a whole ass tail into the cop car and flipped it. 01:02:13 Speaker 5: He wasn't trying to hit the cop car, though. 01:02:17 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. 01:02:18 Speaker 8: That's going to look terrible for Spider-Man. And I hate that we have to talk about this like it's a real shit. But if the newspaper came out and was like Spider-Man accidentally killed a cop, it still looks bad. 01:02:29 Speaker 1: It's uncharacteristic. 01:02:30 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:02:32 Speaker 1: She should have been like, hey, man. 01:02:34 Speaker 6: She did. 01:02:34 Speaker 4: That's what Ken's saying, though. He was like, it wasn't a lot of leeway there. It was a lot of like, damn. 01:02:39 Speaker 2: You're just going to snap on me like that? 01:02:40 Speaker 4: She didn't snap on him. What movie did y'all watch? She was so nice. 01:02:44 Speaker 6: She was pressing his chest like that. That's a tapping mechanism. That's somatic. She was trying to calm him down. 01:02:50 Speaker 4: I agree with that, 100%. 01:02:51 Speaker 6: Baby, chill out. 01:02:52 Speaker 4: Chill out. Take a breath. 01:02:54 Speaker 6: Go Riku. Yeah. 01:02:55 Speaker 1: She was like, you need to get the fuck about it. 01:02:57 Speaker 4: That's not what she said. That is not what she said. No, she didn't. Yeah, it cannot. You need to go watch it a third time. 01:03:05 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:03:05 Speaker 1: I didn't get motherly at all. 01:03:06 Speaker 8: She flat out said, if you actually do something this messed up, I can't help you. 01:03:12 Speaker 4: We have a relationship. I'm trying to help you. 01:03:14 Speaker 1: Y'all tripping, bro. And she knows that he's not like that. That's why she told him. So why are you treating me like this as I am? 01:03:23 Speaker 6: What was she treating him like? 01:03:24 Speaker 4: A monster. Yeah. 01:03:26 Speaker 1: What? 01:03:26 Speaker 6: You agree with that? 01:03:31 Speaker 4: You asshole, Spike. 01:03:32 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're trolling. 01:03:35 Speaker 4: You asshole, Spike. I don't even know why I fell for that dumb shit. 01:03:40 Speaker 5: All right, we're going to have to stay here. It just seemed like she was foul. He was trying to go check on her. They were like, oh, my God, the cop. Is the cop okay? And she was walking up. 01:03:49 Speaker 4: She was like, just go, bro. Just leave. 01:03:53 Speaker 1: But that was sincerity, and she should have known. I'm being sincere and checking on the cop. And she's like, nah, man, you almost killed the cop. You need to go. 01:04:00 Speaker 2: Scorpion woke up like, what the fuck happened, Spider-Man? 01:04:05 Speaker 4: He did. 01:04:08 Speaker 2: I think I also appreciate, this is one of my favorite things when they do in the movies, It showed people that Spider-Man really could be beating a lot of people's asses, but he'd be pulling his punches. 01:04:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, we all know that. I mean, we know that. Oh, sorry. 01:04:22 Speaker 6: I didn't know that. 01:04:22 Speaker 9: I don't think I knew that either. I don't think I knew that either. I didn't realize that. 01:04:26 Speaker 1: But yeah, he does hold back to not hurt someone. 01:04:29 Speaker 4: You're only like a half nerd. You're still, you know what I'm saying? You're not three quarters yet. We're working on you. 01:04:39 Speaker 1: Right. 01:04:40 Speaker 2: So this leads PETA to To go to Empire State University. 01:04:45 Speaker 4: You fuck with a football team, Spike? Empire State University. 01:04:49 Speaker 6: He messing with you. He messing with you. 01:04:52 Speaker 4: I was with him. I was like, is that a real team? I missed him. 01:04:56 Speaker 6: They did have that sweatshirt looking real legit, dog. 01:04:58 Speaker 1: They did. 01:04:58 Speaker 2: When he goes to see his doctor, Banner, and learns about the inhibitor device that he uses to keep the Hulk contained. We also got a brief cameo of a character called Cindy Moon. 01:05:09 Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all are familiar with her. She's like a porn star. Who's that? I mean, her superhero name is Silk, too. She's a spider person. Oh, I didn't... Which one was she? I bet you have. Which one was she? 01:05:21 Speaker 6: She's later. 01:05:22 Speaker 2: She came out like in the 2010s. So you probably wouldn't know. 01:05:26 Speaker 4: But which girl was she in the... Woman, was she in the. 01:05:28 Speaker 2: She was the one that asked the question about Thanos. Like, if Thanos had the... Why didn't he just produce more. 01:05:32 Speaker 4: Food as compared to getting rid of people? Which people have... No, that's a valid-ass question. And you see he had no answer. He's just like, Hulk smash, like, Well, I. 01:05:41 Speaker 5: Think that was the, because I was confused by why he was like, and there it is. When the Hulk did the smash thing, he was like, and there it is, there's your answer. It's the whole duality thing, which is why he kind of asked him, Peter, later on, it's like, how would you choose which one to get rid of? And so what she was saying is like, Thanos could have made more food to solve the problem. But there's the darker side of him was the one that won out, which is the Hulk side of Bruce Banner. And that's why he ended up doing what he did. 01:06:14 Speaker 1: Is that why? 01:06:16 Speaker 6: That's good. That's real good, Kenneth. 01:06:19 Speaker 2: I think he really riches it. I think, but, all right, I'll go with it. I mean, I want to answer. 01:06:25 Speaker 4: I'm kind of with Jalen on this one. But I'm going to go with you, Mr. 01:06:28 Speaker 1: Fantastic. 01:06:29 Speaker 6: I think that was deep. 01:06:30 Speaker 1: Because it didn't make sense the first time I watched it. I was like, what's the answer? 01:06:34 Speaker 4: I don't think there is an answer. 01:06:36

Speaker 5: I think the answer is that there's the dark impulses that people have. 01:06:39 Speaker 4: Come on. 01:06:39 Speaker 5: And you have a choice to be either good or evil. And Thanos could have done that, but he didn't. 01:06:48 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'm going to go with it because I need a reason. But yeah, I'm going to go with it. 01:06:51 Speaker 1: That's the word. Nobody else caught it, I think. I don't think nobody else caught it in the class. 01:06:57 Speaker 4: Caught what in the class? 01:06:58 Speaker 1: The whole Hulk smash thing. 01:07:00 Speaker 8: They were just happy to be excited. I didn't catch it in class, so thank you for explaining it. 01:07:06 Speaker 4: They don't have an answer. 01:07:07 Speaker 1: I see what Ken's saying, though. I do. 01:07:09 Speaker 4: So the answer is because Thanos is evil. Because Thanos has two sides, I guess. 01:07:13 Speaker 1: Everybody does. 01:07:14 Speaker 5: Peter Parker in this movie has two sides that he's trying to suppress, which is why he wants the inhibitor, because We see that when he changes to this other person with the dark eyes, there's a rage part in him. And that's his version of the Hulk. But he's trying to get rid of it, which Bruce Banner's already did. But what Bruce Banner is saying is that nature is what it is. 01:07:37 Speaker 1: And it has to play out. 01:07:38 Speaker 5: So you're picking and choosing which side gets a say-so here. 01:07:42 Speaker 1: And who are you to make that choice? 01:07:44 Speaker 8: See, Rob Costa said, I thought it was him dangling keys to divert attention. 01:07:48 Speaker 4: That's exactly what I thought. That's what I thought it was, too. 01:07:51 Speaker 6: I mean, it is, but there's also meaning there, I think. 01:07:53 Speaker 4: But that's like a lot of meaning. 01:07:55 Speaker 8: And I'm not saying you're wrong. You're probably right, but I'm just saying I didn't catch that. 01:07:59 Speaker 10: It's good writing if that was the intention. If that wasn't the intent, that's good writing. 01:08:05 Speaker 2: So, Nate, after the conversation that Dr. Banner and Peter have, and the question is asked, how do you decide what is good or bad? 01:08:13 Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. 01:08:14 Speaker 2: What did you take away from that? Like, what were the writers trying to say in this moment to us, you think? 01:08:22 Speaker 10: So, yeah, the question keeps coming up with this inhibitor and the creation of it. 01:08:28 Speaker 6: Like, are you willing to, like, eliminate? 01:08:33 Speaker 10: Like, it's like you're... Because MJ mentions the fact that ultimately you're a good guy and that if you allow the arachnid part of you to come out, you're still going to be a good guy type of situation. 01:08:45 Speaker 6: There's this conversation in. 01:08:46 Speaker 10: Addition to what Ken's saying, just how do you determine what's actually bad and why is becoming an arachnid, why is allowing your full powers to come through bad? And and I think I likened it to just changing and maturing, right? You don't want to change. You don't, you know, sometimes you're going to have to get uncomfortable or move into an uncomfortable situation to grow. And you don't want to make that transition because you like. 01:09:10 Speaker 4: Where you are. 01:09:11 Speaker 10: So ultimately that's what I, what I took from it. He doesn't want to grow past where he is, but he has to. 01:09:19 Speaker 4: Got something different, Mike? 01:09:21 Speaker 8: From which part exactly? How do you decide what's good and bad? I just thought he was talking about eugenics. About how this is not the path that... Because this is probably a slight spoiler, but it's clear that what Peter is creating is going to assist in the mutant issue. 01:09:39 Speaker 4: And that's what I was going to ask you next. So that's what I thought he was getting at. 01:09:42 Speaker 8: Is if you are just making a blanket inhibitor, how do you decide who gets inhibited. 01:09:47 Speaker 1: And who doesn't? 01:09:48 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I feel like that was the... My gins, my gins. I have good gins. 01:09:55 Speaker 8: Oh. 01:09:56 Speaker 4: Jesus. 01:09:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely feel like this is a piece of what we're getting ready. Like, this is going to be a major piece for after Doomsday. Like, Peter created this. 01:10:08 Speaker 4: This is going to come back around. 01:10:09 Speaker 1: They still have the tech. 01:10:11 Speaker 4: Yep. Yep. 01:10:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave them the tech. And so, yeah, I feel like damage control is going to end up becoming. 01:10:17 Speaker 8: They're going to become one of the people that hunted the mutants. Maybe they're going to expand that to not just mutants. They're going to expand it to everybody and be like... Because they're already doing it. They were doing it in She-Hulk. They were locking people up in those cages. 01:10:29 Speaker 5: Which could lead to Avengers versus X-Men and all kinds of other stuff that happened. 01:10:35 Speaker 8: Nigga Bird don't want none of that work. He would have been quit by then. The second he sees Wolverine, he's like, man, what the hell? 01:10:40 Speaker 4: I'm not fighting him. I thought you was putting him back in the office anyway. He needs to be in the office. 01:10:46 Speaker 2: Well, using the new information from Banner, Peter goes back to work on that inhibitor chip, which doesn't go well because it accidentally explodes his web grenades, but it consequently pushes him into the street where he runs into someone else that is possessed by this mysterious person. 01:11:02 Speaker 4: That was so good. What did you think of this ride? 01:11:05 Speaker 2: Did the reveal of Peter's identity and them knowing about MJ raise the stakes in this moment? 01:11:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 01:11:13 Speaker 9: But at first I was like, man, who the hell is this random black dude? Like what the hell is going on? Like, like, but, but again, I think shout out to

the, to the random actors in this movie. 01:11:23 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:11:23 Speaker 1: They did a really good job. 01:11:25 Speaker 9: Um, so yeah, I, I was really impressed with, with, with that, uh, execution of, of that, of whoever that, that, that kid was. Um, and then everybody else that it, that it possessed as well. Um, But no, man, yeah, it just got eerier. You know what I'm saying? 01:11:41 Speaker 1: Like, damn, man, who the hell is this person? 01:11:43 Speaker 6: They in his house. They in his house. Was she in his house, like. 01:11:48 Speaker 4: Right this? Yeah, in that moment, yeah. 01:11:50 Speaker 6: That's crazy. 01:11:51 Speaker 9: Yeah, because she was, like, feet away. Like, what, 30-something feet or something? 01:11:54 Speaker 4: 33 feet. 01:11:54 Speaker 1: 33 feet. So, yeah, man, I'm like, damn, man, this is really wild. 01:11:58 Speaker 9: But, no, yeah, I was just really intrigued of who this person was and how he's going to beat them. 01:12:04 Speaker 1: Like, I just didn't. I couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. 01:12:08 Speaker 4: Give this brother another role, whoever the dude is. 01:12:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:12:11 Speaker 4: Because he. 01:12:12 Speaker 10: I saw somebody, I saw on threads somewhere where they had mentioned what his name was because somebody else, like, there was threads going on around about how good he was. 01:12:21 Speaker 6: But no, he did a really good job. 01:12:22 Speaker 1: Because just like, at first it just seemed real casual. Yes. 01:12:26 Speaker 4: Until you realize what was happening. 01:12:27 Speaker 1: It was like, no, no, he egged him on. 01:12:29 Speaker 4: Like, what the hell? 01:12:30 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was good. 01:12:31 Speaker 4: He was good. 01:12:32 Speaker 1: It was good. You agree? Yeah, he did. 01:12:34 Speaker 4: He did a really good job. What was the thing going on between. 01:12:38 Speaker 7: Him shooting the web outside of his wrist and the machine thing that he had. 01:12:43 Speaker 1: Puberty. Really? Not. 01:12:47 Speaker 6: Yes, but no. So, as his. 01:12:49 Speaker 4: But it is. But it kind of is, though. It is. 01:12:54 Speaker 1: It is, in a way. 01:12:54 Speaker 4: I know. It does make sense. 01:12:58 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:12:59 Speaker 1: No, no, go ahead. 01:12:59 Speaker 5: Go ahead. 01:13:00 Speaker 4: Got it. 01:13:01 Speaker 6: Essentially, yeah, it is puberty. 01:13:02 Speaker 10: Like, when the spider hormones is high, he's able to do all that naturally instead of having to use the machines. 01:13:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. 01:13:15 Speaker 4: I'm leaving it alone. Spike was ready to walk out. The second he started. Right. 01:13:22 Speaker 1: And then he shot off. 01:13:23 Speaker 5: Right. 01:13:23 Speaker 4: That was crazy. That was crazy. 01:13:27 Speaker 1: I did say they doing a lot. 01:13:29 Speaker 4: They doing a lot. Spike said, I've been there. 01:13:32 Speaker 7: All right. 01:13:37 Speaker 2: So Peter is in a rush to find

MJ now. What did y'all think of the choreography of these actors here, too? Like, while he was chasing her, like, going through the city and running to the wedding and everything else. 01:13:50 Speaker 4: How did y'all like this? 01:13:53 Speaker 6: It was really good. It felt like dancing. 01:13:55 Speaker 10: Like, I felt like I was watching dancers when they would go from person to person. 01:13:59 Speaker 6: So, yeah, because I literally had a thought like, Brie could do that. 01:14:02 Speaker 10: But no, like, the dancing, it felt very, yeah, the choreography was awesome. 01:14:08 Speaker 1: Almost like West Side Story is because of the New York scene. Yeah, yeah. 01:14:14 Speaker 8: You agree? 01:14:16 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:14:17 Speaker 4: Yeah. I want to get to the next scene, so I'm going to be quiet. Go ahead. 01:14:22 Speaker 2: When he went into that wedding and he apologized, he was like, clap it up for Spider-Man, who's about to lose the love of his life. 01:14:29 Speaker 4: That was crazy. 01:14:30 Speaker 1: Whoa. That was crazy. 01:14:31 Speaker 4: I know Spider-Man was mad as shit. 01:14:40 Speaker 2: Well, he eventually reaches MJ and, you know, he takes her away from what he believes is impending danger. 01:14:45 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? 01:14:47 Speaker 2: So, Mike, man, I guess the first thing I'm going to just start with is, what did you think of Zendaya's acting? 01:14:52 Speaker 4: I mean, you already know, right? 01:14:54 Speaker 8: She doesn't play. But, like Rod said, the earlier part is where it started. This is where it started for me. Because I felt so happy. I was like, they're back together. And when they were swinging, he was so happy to be holding his girl and swinging. 01:15:11 Speaker 4: And then she played him like this. 01:15:14 Speaker 6: See, like, that's right. Hug her. 01:15:16 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 01:15:16 Speaker 6: Feel her. 01:15:17 Speaker 4: And it got me. 01:15:18 Speaker 1: It was so diabolical. 01:15:20 Speaker 4: I was not even remotely thinking that that was somebody else. 01:15:23 Speaker 6: Y'all did it. 01:15:24 Speaker 4: Stop it. I can't stand these rights. Now, hold on, hold on, hold on. They always do this to me. Hold on, hold on. First, I can't count. 01:15:32 Speaker 6: For me. 01:15:34 Speaker 2: it felt off because she wasn't nervous in the swinging, like how she always been in the movies. 01:15:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, that part. And I'm like, she's always like afraid to look down. She was just easing with it. Like she was cool. And I was like, that's weird. 01:15:45 Speaker 2: But in my mind, I wanted it to be true too. So I gave in to the fact of like, Oh, they. 01:15:49 Speaker 4: Got back together. 01:15:49 Speaker 8: I'll tell you why I thought it was real, Jalen. I thought this was part of her remembering. So I thought, because I never really thought she was going to forget forever. So I thought when they started swinging, I thought because she was so. 01:16:02 Speaker

6: Comfortable, I was like, this is her. 01:16:05 Speaker 1: And even Tom, he was just like, I can't believe you figured it out. Like, he's like, I knew you were figuring it out. 01:16:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:16:12 Speaker 1: You know, he sold it. 01:16:13 Speaker 4: Yes. I was like, oh, she's back. And then when she said, yes, hug her. I was like, you mother. Don't you do this to me. 01:16:23 Speaker 10: Because she went for me when he was in the apartment. 01:16:26 Speaker 6: And she was like, wait a minute. What are you talking about? And then she's like, OK. I was like, oh, no. 01:16:31 Speaker 8: But see, I thought that was just how MJ would act. Because she was just so goofy. 01:16:35 Speaker 2: No. 01:16:35 Speaker 4: Because that's kind of how she was before. She's just, I don't know. I bought it. I bought it. 01:16:40 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it was ruined. 01:16:42 Speaker 10: I wouldn't say it was ruined because you're still able to like, like there's still a moment where it's like, oh, he really thinks this is her. And it almost made it a little bit more sad because I know that this ain't really what you think it is. 01:16:56 Speaker 6: So I wouldn't say the moment was ruined. It was just different. 01:16:58 Speaker 1: That was fucked up. It was. 01:17:00 Speaker 5: I remember because I told Ken, I was like, that's not her. Something told me something was just off, but I just wanted to believe it. 01:17:09 Speaker 11: I just I gave into it was like I'm happy he got it back. 01:17:13 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, yeah Yeah. 01:17:27 Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel you, though. But it didn't seem that easy. 01:17:30 Speaker 1: That's how great it was. That's how good the whole scene was. The way they set it up. The 33 feet requirement. The rule that they set up. And we never saw. We didn't know how he was going to get out of the helicopter. It all made sense. It all made sense. It's just, she didn't have to do Peter. 01:17:47 Speaker 4: That was terrible. 01:17:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was messed up. 01:17:52 Speaker 2: Well, the possessed MJ is thrown off the ledge by... And Peter is like, he saves her. But when she uses that other person, he's like, no, no, I give up. 01:18:02 Speaker 4: I give up. Bro, he was broken. 01:18:04 Speaker 1: He was broken. 01:18:04 Speaker 4: He was broken. I felt for him like, damn. That was too good, man. 01:18:08 Speaker 9: Zendaya's acting like that was good, too, when she was falling and she see her come out. 01:18:12 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:18:13 Speaker 1: Like, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was good. It was good. I don't know why I thought they were doing the whole MJ was going to die thing. 01:18:20 Speaker 6: A little bit. A little bit. Like Andrew Garfield. 01:18:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, when Stacey. When Stacey. 01:18:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I thought she was going to die because... And the only reason... Part of the reason why... Well, no, the only reason why I thought that is because of the Steve Lacey thing. And I didn't know what the spoiler was, but I thought that was the spoiler. 01:18:38 Speaker 4: Oh, that you killed. 01:18:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep. 01:18:40 Speaker 10: I thought Zendaya was going to die this whole movie because she kept wearing black in all the in all the press, like on all the carpets. 01:18:48 Speaker 6: And I was like, is she doing that? 01:18:49 Speaker 10: Cause the way they do her fashion, she's very like, she, she tells the story with the fashion. 01:18:54 Speaker 6: So I thought it was like a morning thing. 01:18:56 Speaker 10: So there was a lot of rumors going around that, that her character was actually going to die. 01:18:59 Speaker 1: So yeah. 01:19:02 Speaker 2: Well, Peter ends up taking her to the punishers hideout. Um, And we get our explanation on why the Punisher got broke. Like, we didn't get one in season two, what happened to the Punisher. Because, you know, he was locked up with everybody else. Basically, Spider-Man broke him out on Staten Island. 01:19:17 Speaker 4: Helped him out. 01:19:18 Speaker 1: Oh, that's the... What happened. 01:19:21 Speaker 4: In Long Island or Staten Island? Staten Island, basically. 01:19:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:19:24 Speaker 4: Because they don't say why. 01:19:25 Speaker 1: No, they don't say why. 01:19:26 Speaker 4: Which, that's okay. 01:19:28 Speaker 2: I was trying to piece it together a little bit, but I couldn't because they were talking over each other. While, like, They're trying to explain it to MJ, and she was just like, I just want to go home. 01:19:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was funny. 01:19:41 Speaker 2: I couldn't get the story together because they were talking over each other. 01:19:43 Speaker 1: I thought that was good. 01:19:45 Speaker 4: I did too. It felt realistic. 01:19:48 Speaker 1: Their chemistry was really good here. 01:19:53 Speaker 2: And so he also is there using the technology that Frank has available to learn who the person is. And this is when we finally figure out that the person is Basically, messing with Spider-Man is Gene, Elaine, Honey. I know the theater went crazy for most of it. 01:20:12 Speaker 1: No? 01:20:13 Speaker 10: I was so mad. I was like, why are y'all not hype about this? Nobody said nothing. 01:20:17 Speaker 6: It was crickets. I was like, y'all must not be fans. Because I was like, what? 01:20:22 Speaker 5: I reacted the first time I watched it. And the second time, the theater reacted. The people next to me was. 01:20:29 Speaker 1: Like, oh, everybody's like, oh, yeah. So I. 01:20:33 Speaker 5: Maybe I was so loud when I reacted, I didn't hear everybody else react. But, yeah, I did not know who it was until they said it. So when they said it, I was like, oh, shit. 01:20:46 Speaker 1: So, yeah. 01:20:46 Speaker 4: I went to the fan event, and they definitely, oh, okay. 01:20:51 Speaker 2: The fan event, everybody's quiet for the most part because you don't want to miss

nothing. 01:20:54 Speaker 4: So you react fast, but everybody was like, oh, okay. But I could hear it all around. 01:20:58 Speaker 1: I was so excited. 01:20:59 Speaker 4: That's how I was. 01:20:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this one had people engaged. It did. 01:21:03 Speaker 9: Like, it wasn't a lot of cheers and woo-hoos and all that type of stuff. 01:21:07 Speaker 1: It was just like, they were just in it. You know what I mean? 01:21:10 Speaker 9: So, yeah, that's how this one was different from a lot of other Spider-Man movies. 01:21:14 Speaker 4: I'm with you. My theater was dead silent, too. But when that happened, nobody said anything. I just went, oh. 01:21:18 Speaker 1: You could hear the murmurs. 01:21:20 Speaker 4: But, like I said, I don't usually figure shit out. I'm surprised that none of y'all did. 01:21:25 Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed it. When I watched it the second time, All of the clues were there. 01:21:29 Speaker 6: I had no idea. 01:21:30 Speaker 1: And I was like, how the hell did I miss this? I wasn't thinking about her as a villain. 01:21:35 Speaker 4: It would make sense. 01:21:36 Speaker 8: But I guess the only thing I can understand throwing it off is her age. Because I don't think we would think about Jean being that young. 01:21:43 Speaker 6: That part. 01:21:44 Speaker 10: So that was one of the questions that I'm left with, right? Because this is prior to Xavier's school, right? So I guess for me, I was like, I wouldn't have thought of her as a villain until she turns into the Dark Phoenix. So I was kind of like not expecting it to have actually, like not her in a villain type role. 01:22:02 Speaker 4: But think about her before actually getting trained at all. 01:22:05 Speaker 6: So that's how I would think about it. Yeah, I get it. Once it was revealed, I got it. 01:22:10 Speaker 10: But prior to, I would have had, yeah, I was clueless. 01:22:15 Speaker 4: And she killed somebody. Who did she kill? I'm trying to remember. Why you say it like that? 01:22:24 Speaker 1: A whole ass murderer. 01:22:25 Speaker 4: Who did she kill? I know she becomes a murderer. But who did she kill? She killed the dude in the street. The dude she possessed that got hit by a car. Oh, we don't know he died. 01:22:32 Speaker 6: He got hit by a car. 01:22:32 Speaker 4: It happens all the time in New York. They're used to it. 01:22:36 Speaker 6: And technically, he wasn't possessed when he died. 01:22:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. 01:22:40 Speaker 1: So. 01:22:41 Speaker 6: I thought she came out and then he hit. 01:22:42 Speaker 8: Well, that would make him more of a murderer because that's really messed up. 01:22:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, she pulled him into the street and then came out. 01:22:47 Speaker 2: That dude probably got up and walked away. 01:22:50 Speaker 4: I've seen crackheads get hit by cars way harder. No, sir. 01:22:54 Speaker 5: No, sir. 01:22:55 Speaker 6: But it was like a bus, wasn't it? 01:22:57 Speaker 4: No, it was

like a little sprint. 01:22:59 Speaker 6: I ain't on that bus. I ain't on that bus. 01:23:02 Speaker 4: Get up, shake it off, and just start doing the nay-nay. I think, well, so.... 01:23:10 Speaker 5: It's kind of smart what they did by making her a teenager. 01:23:14 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 01:23:15 Speaker 5: Because now everybody can kind of grow up with stats, man. So I like that. The storyline made sense for her to be a villain. Yep. 01:23:25 Speaker 1: Because of what happened. So this was really, really well done. Really good, man. It was. 01:23:30 Speaker 4: They said it was a taxi, y'all. So I think he's okay. 01:23:33 Speaker 1: That's a big taxi. 01:23:34 Speaker 4: His back might be broke. 01:23:35 Speaker 6: He's like a fan. 01:23:36 Speaker 1: He's a little bruised up. 01:23:37 Speaker 4: Taxi fan. 01:23:37 Speaker 1: But he's okay. He's a little bruised up. 01:23:40 Speaker 4: I tried to stay... I just. 01:23:41 Speaker 2: I think while watching it, I just didn't want to believe in it. 01:23:45 Speaker 4: What if this is the origin of... What if that was Professor X? And that's how he's. 01:23:49 Speaker 1: Going to share it? All right, move on. All right. 01:23:52 Speaker 4: Don't be just dismissing my canon. That shit might be tight. Fuck y'all. 01:23:55 Speaker 1: That's fine. That's fine with that one. 01:23:56 Speaker 2: And then over the last couple of days, they've revealed some of the people... I know y'all can look later if y'all want to, but they got some... Some deadline revealed some of the castings for some of the X-Men characters. 01:24:06 Speaker 4: Oh, no, no. I want some of that. Yeah. 01:24:09 Speaker 1: I saw one by accident. Yeah. What do I need to avoid? 01:24:14 Speaker 4: Casting for X-Men. X-Men characters. 01:24:16 Speaker 2: I did see one of them, but one of them is good. They're probably going to reveal it because they got D23 coming. That's the next big Marvel reveal showcase, like that Comic-Con that they're going to do. So in a couple of weeks, it'll probably just get revealed anyway. 01:24:27 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not much of a spoiler. 01:24:29 Speaker 1: That's okay. 01:24:29 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. If you see, I'm just letting you know it's out there. Gotcha. 01:24:32 Speaker 6: I don't want to know. 01:24:34 Speaker 4: I mean, it's going to be everywhere. 01:24:37 Speaker 1: It's going to be everywhere. 01:24:38 Speaker 8: If you saw Tom Holland and Isaiah was married and all this other stuff, you're going to see the cast of X-Men. 01:24:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, X-Men is never going to be everywhere. I don't want to know. Just like when you find out about the new Black Panther, it's going to be everywhere when it comes out. Oh, that's what I saw was the new Black Panther. So I haven't seen any of the cast. 01:24:50 Speaker 6: But I think I did see something about who's going to be Beast. 01:24:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:24:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:24:54 Speaker 4: And Emma Stone. Oh, I did see

that. 01:24:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:24:57 Speaker 4: That's a good casting. Yeah, it was a good casting. That's a really good casting. 01:25:00 Speaker 1: All right, all right. 01:25:01 Speaker 4: I see what y'all doing. Yeah. 01:25:04 Speaker 2: So he eventually gets the inhibitor chip to work with the help of MJ, and she tells him that alternating his DNA is not necessary. Nay, what did this conversation say about their relationship, like their past relationship that they were having in the bedroom? 01:25:21 Speaker 10: I guess the only thing I really took from it is that I think I expected her to remember at some point based on this conversation, because Peter's the same Peter he was before MJ is technically the same MJ. So there's obviously going to be some sort of chemistry. And when she was like, you know, you just seem to me. 01:25:39 Speaker 4: Like a good guy. 01:25:40 Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, she's going to remember him. 01:25:43 Speaker 10: It made me think there was going to be like this big, happy ending at some point in time, which there still might be. 01:25:51 Speaker 4: So, so, well, I, I'll ask you this question then, Mike and Ken. 01:26:00 Speaker 2: The Punisher questions who she. 01:26:03 Speaker 4: Is to Peter. 01:26:04 Speaker 2: Like, bro, you could do a whole lot for some random person. Like, she over here, you protect her, you real worried. 01:26:10 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:26:11 Speaker 2: Did this justify his involvement, this conversation, his involvement, like why it was good for Punisher to be the person to talk to Peter? Did this justify whose involvement? In the film, like having Punisher in this film. Because I know a lot of people complain that Peter hasn't really had his own film. He has to lean on these other characters like Doctor Strange and Iron Man. And people are complaining now they're putting the Punisher in here. Did it fit that the Punisher was in here? I mean, you don't have to think about the other stuff, but did this moment even make it fit more why the Punisher was here? I think it's just a little bit annoying that people are not really grasping that this dude has been kind of like having these powers and stuff since he was a teenager. 01:26:52 Speaker 8: He has not had a male role model. He's all over the place. His aunt just died. 01:26:57 Speaker 4: And now you dorks are like, why does he have to have Punisher? Because he needs somebody. 01:27:02 Speaker 8: He's 22, but he's probably, if we're really looking at it, he's probably emotionally stunted because he's had a lot of effed up stuff happen for him. Now, the fact that he's partnered up with Frank is probably not the best person, but Frank gave him solid advice in this moment. You're doing a lot of shit for some woman that you're acting like you don't really know like that. And it's Jon Bernthal, so y'all can go suck an egg. 01:27:27 Speaker 4: Jon Bernthal in anything. I don't want to hear what you're going to say. Jon Bernthal is the man. He's so good. And as Punisher, he was perfect in this film. 01:27:37 Speaker 10: And I don't know much about Punisher, but you can deduce just from a little bit that he's lost people too. So it made a lot of sense. It's like if Spider-Man didn't have anybody to lean on and didn't develop any relationships, he would become who the Punisher is. 01:27:55 Speaker 6: So I think it made a lot of sense. 01:27:57 Speaker 2: That was my point. He's telling them, bro, you think this is just cool? 01:28:02 Speaker 4: This is a sentence. You have people. that you could talk to and depend on and you're running away from them. And he's telling them, you don't want to be like me. 01:28:10 Speaker 1: Right. 01:28:11 Speaker 8: Like, and if you keep at this pace of acting like MJ ain't nobody that you care about and that you don't need personal connections, you're going to be just like me living in a fucking submarine by myself eating sardines and crying and looking at pictures on the wall. 01:28:27 Speaker 4: This was, man, this was too good. You disagree, Ken? 01:28:30 Speaker 1: No, you know, I'm cool with that. I just, I thought it was funny that he couldn't count. 01:28:36 Speaker 8: Who? 01:28:37 Speaker 6: Me? 01:28:38 Speaker 1: No, Craig Castle. 01:28:39 Speaker 4: What couldn't he count? 01:28:40 Speaker 1: There's only two rules in the submarine. 01:28:42 Speaker 6: And she was like, so three rules. 01:28:44 Speaker 4: Oh, that was actually funny. That was funny. 01:28:47 Speaker 6: She's still MJ. 01:28:48 Speaker 4: And it's just comics, man. 01:28:49 Speaker 2: Like, niggas act like heroes don't show up in a damn comic for no reason. 01:28:54 Speaker 4: I saw the same complaints. I'm like, bruh. 01:28:56 Speaker 2: I get the Iron Man, like he's Iron Man Jr. and you want him to be grounded. I understand that. He's grounded now, so I don't really care if there's another character in the story with him. 01:29:05 Speaker 4: As long as it's still his story. 01:29:07 Speaker 5: Didn't they team up with this storyline? 01:29:11 Speaker 2: They've teamed up multiple times. Him, Daredevil, Street Level, they team up all the time. It's just a silly complaint. I saw people saying the same thing. Hulk is in it now. There's all these cameos. Have you ever read a comic book in your entire life? It's okay if you haven't, but just Have fun with it. 01:29:26 Speaker 6: Who cares? 01:29:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:29:30 Speaker 8: I can see if they stole the show. Like, you know, like Mando did Boba Fett. I can see that being an issue. But this, they were co-leads. 01:29:38 Speaker 4: It worked. 01:29:39 Speaker 2: I mean, every scene Punisher was in, I was like, God. 01:29:42 Speaker 4: It was great. Yeah, y'all need to relax and just have a good time. 01:29:47 Speaker 2: So Spider-Man is then needed by Damage Control because Gene is now there and attacking the building with a surprise help of the Hulk. Rod, man, how'd you feel about finally seeing, I

guess, the real Hulk is the best. 01:30:02 Speaker 1: Way to say it. Yeah, yeah. I knew immediately what was going on in this moment. 01:30:07 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, she got the Hulk. 01:30:09 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And the way they act, like, the, yes. Dude. 01:30:13 Speaker 9: Like, throughout the whole scenes, you just hear this constant knocking. 01:30:18 Speaker 1: Man, that was so, so good. Did you realize that it was the Hulk? 01:30:24 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah. Oh, man. 01:30:27 Speaker 1: What? 01:30:28 Speaker 6: This was the one cameo I could have done without. 01:30:30 Speaker 4: Oh, no. Absolutely not, Nate. 01:30:32 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No. I mean. 01:30:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, why? 01:30:35 Speaker 6: The Hulk is cool. The Hulk is cool. 01:30:38 Speaker 5: Again. 01:30:38 Speaker 4: Hulk is definitely a dude character, though. 01:30:40 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely a dude character. 01:30:42 Speaker 10: And again, I'm not necessarily here for the action and the blow up just for the sake of, ooh, look. And I think sometimes, like, I like Hulk, especially as a kid. Like, Hulk was cool. Everybody loves the Hulk. But, like, He's just there to wreck shit. 01:31:00 Speaker 4: It's because you haven't had a story of the tragedy before. 01:31:05 Speaker 6: Okay, sure. 01:31:05 Speaker 4: He's got the same issue as. 01:31:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, I get... No, I get. 01:31:08 Speaker 10: I get the whole inhibitor situation and the fact that he's done what Spider-Man's essentially trying to do and how all of that tech falls into each other. 01:31:16 Speaker 6: Like, did he die at the end? I was just kind of... It just didn't... I know. 01:31:20 Speaker 4: He did, but. 01:31:21 Speaker 8: He don't have to be alone because anytime he forms a. 01:31:24 Speaker 6: That part I didn't get. Thank you, Mike. Okay. 01:31:29 Speaker 4: Sure. 01:31:29 Speaker 10: That he's always got to be alone because he's afraid whenever he turns, he's going to hurt people, which is ultimately what Spider-Man's issue is. He's trying to ostracize himself and be isolated so that he doesn't hurt anybody, which is, thank you. 01:31:42 Speaker 4: Everybody they put in this movie had that same type of issue. 01:31:44 Speaker 6: Look at that. 01:31:45 Speaker 4: And the one time he could have got some, she died. 01:31:47 Speaker 6: I'm learning new things. 01:31:48 Speaker 8: That's why the motherfucker threw that damn bitch 38 miles. Because he was like, the one time I had an emotional connection to somebody, she died and I wasn't even there. 01:31:56 Speaker 4: The Hulk is a very tragic character. And this was really good. In my opinion. Do that desk at that nigga. 01:32:01 Speaker 7: Bro, that was so good. That shit made me laugh, bro. 01:32:05 Speaker 4: What the shit, man? What you doing, man? That nigga disappeared. When he got big like that. I didn't know you could get this big. Yeah. I didn't know you could get this big. 01:32:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:32:16 Speaker 8: Even the fact that his pants didn't tear, that used to bother me. But even in this moment, I was like, I don't even care. 01:32:21 Speaker 1: They tore his hair, though. 01:32:22 Speaker 4: Bruh. He got 38. That dude would have been. 01:32:24 Speaker 1: But it was like the comics version where he put something at the knees. 01:32:28 Speaker 4: I thought that was dope. 01:32:35 Speaker 8: It was dope, but them pants would have been gone, bruh. But this whole part when he just started getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I was in the theater like, oh my God, this is crazy. 01:32:47 Speaker 1: John Burr thought it was good. When he's grown. He was. 01:32:50 Speaker 4: I don't care about people getting mad about him making a joke. It was perfectly landed. 01:32:54 Speaker 1: It was. Perfectly landed. 01:32:55 Speaker 5: I don't know why they thought it was him, but that was Jean Grey. 01:32:57 Speaker 4: Who was Jean Grey? 01:32:58 Speaker 6: Oh, because she was inhabiting him at that point. 01:33:00 Speaker 4: No, you're talking about when he first came in the scene, right? When what now? 01:33:05 Speaker 2: I think you're talking about... When I said good luck with that. Oh, I was talking about different parts. You were talking about when he first came to the... To the building. 01:33:12 Speaker 8: No, I was talking about when they were both hiding and Punisher laid out the plan and Peter was like, that's because you don't want to fight the Hulk. Which people might be mad at that, but if you really think about it, Punisher doesn't fight people like this. 01:33:27 Speaker 4: He just shoots regular people. 01:33:28 Speaker 8: So him seeing the Hulk, he's going to be like, I don't want to deal with this. 01:33:32 Speaker 1: So are you telling me that people were upset about that? 01:33:34 Speaker 4: Oh, you know they are, Ken. 01:33:35 Speaker 2: People are upset about everything. You got to think about it. The people who idolize Punisher aren't the best people. 01:33:41 Speaker 4: That's a fact. And so they want Punisher to just wreck everything. Shoot him, man. Just kill him, dude. That's how they think about Punisher. 01:33:49 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:33:50 Speaker 4: But they don't read the comics. 01:33:51 Speaker 2: And they don't get the tragedy of what he really is and who he's supposed to be. 01:33:55 Speaker 4: It's not even like the tragedy. 01:33:56 Speaker 8: It's more so like if you're a pig, why would you think that Punisher would like you? 01:34:01 Speaker 4: Punisher hates you. I get all that. But they don't. That's the problem. 01:34:04 Speaker 1: Y'all are layers deep than this really has to be. This is the Hulk. 01:34:11 Speaker 4: But he doesn't know. 01:34:11 Speaker 1: Hulk smash. No, the fans should know that there's nothing that could. 01:34:15 Speaker 4: Beat the Hulk. Okay, but you just said we were layers deep, but you missed a layer. They're not fans, Ken. 01:34:20 Speaker 8: These are average normies that just like the

Punisher because they think he's a. 01:34:25 Speaker 4: Cool cop, and he's not. That's all. 01:34:28 Speaker 1: Okay, we don't have to say that. I'm just stuck with the logic of the fact that, like. 01:34:33 Speaker 4: Some things aren't logical. 01:34:34 Speaker 11: When he walked in shooting. Even Peter Parker was like, man, stop shooting that shit. He's like, you know what I'm saying? That was so funny, but it made sense. 01:34:44 Speaker 4: Exactly. 01:34:45 Speaker 10: Peter would get so frustrated with him, and I thought it. 01:34:49 Speaker 4: Was so cute. 01:34:50 Speaker 1: It was. 01:34:50 Speaker 4: It felt realistic. 01:34:51 Speaker 1: It did. 01:34:52 Speaker 4: What else would Punisher do? All he has is guns. 01:34:55 Speaker 8: Oh! 01:34:55 Speaker 4: Right. And it wasn't doing anything. But it made sense. It was so good. It was dope the way he jumped and he whipped. He like, he went and dragged that nigga. And he was on there and shooting him. 01:35:06 Speaker 8: Come on. 01:35:06 Speaker 4: I was like, ooh, that shit tough. How could you complain about that part? It was so good. Even Spike had to like this part. 01:35:13 Speaker 1: It is. 01:35:13 Speaker 4: Some of those shots was fire. 01:35:14 Speaker 1: See? 01:35:14 Speaker 2: That spot, when he was running and they made it like the shot turn. 01:35:19 Speaker 4: Oh my God. I was like, oh, this shit is dope, bro. 01:35:23 Speaker 1: And then he did the whole clap. 01:35:25 Speaker 4: And we finally got to see it. It's only the second time, but that was dope. That was really dope. All this was just. 01:35:31 Speaker 1: Oh, man. 01:35:31 Speaker 4: It was A1. 01:35:32 Speaker 2: They didn't pull back on him. They let him lose not too much because he wasn't angry, angry, but enough to be. 01:35:39 Speaker 4: Like, don't fuck with Hulk. 01:35:41 Speaker 9: And I like how even Gene wasn't able to control him. 01:35:44 Speaker 1: He's like, get out. Yeah. 01:35:45 Speaker 2: Whatever. 01:35:45 Speaker 1: So I thought that just shows how strong the Hulk is. 01:35:49 Speaker 4: When Peter got, or Spider-Man, whatever, got the. 01:35:53 Speaker 4: The shocker thing. And he got that one good lick. And I was like, okay, that's how he's going to defeat him. 01:35:57 Speaker 8: And when he jumped, I was like, no! 01:36:04 Speaker 4: You better just run, bro. You're not going to win this battle. He loved him for real. You thought it was going to happen the second time. He's like, I let you have that one. You're not about to have two. 01:36:16 Speaker 2: I'm hoping that this actually lets them create something where Hulk goes crazy and doomsday a Secret Wars because He said she unlocked something that wasn't supposed to happen. 01:36:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:36:28 Speaker 5: I talked to TJ about that. He was kind of giving me some. 01:36:33 Speaker 1: Insight. Well, he was kind of saying that that's going to play a major role. 01:36:37 Speaker 8: I was thinking so, too. Yeah, because remember at the end, he felt so upset. He was like, did anybody die? Did I hurt anybody? That's going to play into whatever happens after this. That's the one thing he didn't want was to hurt somebody. 01:36:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:36:52 Speaker 6: Mark Ruffalo's a really good Bruce Banner. He's the best Bruce Banner. 01:36:56 Speaker 10: He was perfectly cast for this. And has been for quite a while. 01:37:01 Speaker 2: And they keep trying to get him out of here because of what he do offline. It's ridiculous. At the damn near dying, Spider-Man returns upstairs to Jean Grey. He captures her, but then he goes back to the Punisher's hideout where he finds MJ has found the letter. 01:37:21 Speaker 4: This part was too good. 01:37:22 Speaker 1: Man. 01:37:22 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, man. Is this where you got him also, though? Oh, he cried. He cried at this part. 01:37:27 Speaker 1: Any of these got me emotional. 01:37:29 Speaker 9: Any of the MJ and Peter scenes. 01:37:33 Speaker 1: It's good, man. They're really good. Yeah. You can tell that they have something. Their chemistry. Off camera. Because the stuff before they went to, he went there. 01:37:44 Speaker 9: Where they were going back and forth when he was trying to make the inhibitor or whatever. 01:37:48 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. 01:37:48 Speaker 4: And she was telling him how he messed it up. 01:37:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seemed so natural. It did. It seemed like we had insight to a conversation that was happening. Yeah. Like, it was really good. 01:37:56 Speaker 4: It was good. 01:37:59 Speaker 2: I just know the part of Rowan that said, I love you. And she just kept talking. And you just feel it back and forth. 01:38:04 Speaker 4: Like, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I don't love you. I don't even know you. That shit, like, damn. 01:38:10 Speaker 1: Damn. 01:38:11 Speaker 4: And then I got to take your ass home. 01:38:12 Speaker 6: That was the most awkward. That was so good. 01:38:15 Speaker 4: Can you take me home? 01:38:16 Speaker 6: It's like the most awkward car ride, but not a car ride. 01:38:19 Speaker 10: And they lingered on it for so long. 01:38:23 Speaker 2: They let you see it from both angles, like him swinging in the air and her like just holding on to him like it. 01:38:29 Speaker 10: Was like i gotta straddle you and wrap my arms around your neck in the air. 01:38:34 Speaker 4: And the silent like you were just saying the silence made it so much better. 01:38:37 Speaker 8: Because all you hear is the yeah the web yeah over and over you felt his heartbreak you did. 01:38:43 Speaker 9: Yeah, that was really good direction right there, man, to just. 01:38:46 Speaker 1: Make it quiet like that. 01:38:48 Speaker 9: And that's a really good point, like a silent ride home. 01:38:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, that's exactly what it felt like. 01:38:54 Speaker 8: When she kept saying, when she was referring to the other MJ in third person, that was really good writing, too,

because it's just like, I don't know, you could just see on Peter's face that he's like, damn, you really don't have any connection here. 01:39:09 Speaker 4: This was too good, man. 01:39:10 Speaker 1: Oh, man, that's what... But Gene did to him on the rooftop. 01:39:14 Speaker 6: She's like, there's no memories. 01:39:16 Speaker 4: Nothing. There's nothing in here. Come on, man. 01:39:20 Speaker 1: Nothing. 01:39:21 Speaker 8: Peter got to find a woman to put hands on Gene. 01:39:24 Speaker 4: You can't do that. 01:39:28 Speaker 1: That was foul, bro. 01:39:30 Speaker 6: I mean, but yes, with the Gene and stuff. 01:39:35 Speaker 10: But I mean, when Zendaya was talking, MJ was talking like, You can't get mad about anything that she's saying. Like, it's quite honest. And she did it as politely as she could. 01:39:47 Speaker 4: Wait, who did? Oh, no, I wasn't mad at the MJ part. 01:39:50 Speaker 10: Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, that's part of what made it so emotional. 01:39:53 Speaker 6: It's like, damn. 01:39:55 Speaker 4: You can feel her not trying to hurt his feelings, but I got to be honest with you. She wasn't being mean at all. At all. Gene was being mean. 01:40:01 Speaker 6: She's like, did you want me to find this? 01:40:03 Speaker 4: Like, was this part. 01:40:04 Speaker 6: Of the plan? 01:40:05 Speaker 4: I did think about that, but I'm pretty sure he didn't. 01:40:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't. Right. 01:40:08 Speaker 11: Spike. 01:40:08 Speaker 1: I told him to take off the mask. Like, no, I want to speak to Peter Parker. Oh, yeah. 01:40:12 Speaker 4: So I deserve to have the conversation with Peter. Oh, my God. 01:40:15 Speaker 6: Tenday is so good. 01:40:17 Speaker 1: Spike. 01:40:19 Speaker 2: Was it fair for her to be like, you know, you can come upstairs and talk to Ned if you want to. 01:40:27 Speaker 4: I think that goes to what y'all was saying. 01:40:29 Speaker 7: She really wasn't trying to be mean to her, this feelings. And she understood that if that part of the story, what she read was true, then Ned is her, his friend too. 01:40:37 Speaker 1: So. 01:40:37 Speaker 7: I know if you miss me, then you definitely probably miss him as well. So, yeah, live bygones, be bygones, and hang with your homeboy. 01:40:46 Speaker 4: Man, I would have loved it. I'm like, I'll see that nigga another day. 01:40:50 Speaker 2: I know where y'all live at now. I'm going to go home. I'll let you know maybe. I might come by, give you a heads up when I'm going to come by. 01:40:57 Speaker 8: The last thing he needed was to be alone in this room. So I like the fact that he did go upstairs. 01:41:02 Speaker 4: And enjoy himself. 01:41:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he enjoyed himself. It balances out the tone. I'm saying as a person. You'd have been too in your bag. 01:41:10 Speaker 4: I had to bring you back here. I'm towing up. Let me just go ahead home. Are you going to draw me a picture? Fuck out of here. What are you talking about? We look like

best friends, man. You're playing with me, girl. 01:41:22 Speaker 10: You know I love you, girl. It was the best thing that he could have done, though. 01:41:27 Speaker 4: Yep, it was. It was a good scene. 01:41:29 Speaker 2: I also love reinforcing how great Well, the kind of person that Peter Parker is when he tells her, I kissed her. 01:41:36 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 01:41:37 Speaker 4: Loved that. I just want you to know I didn't know that you weren't her. That was too good. I'm sorry. Yes. 01:41:43 Speaker 2: I was like, look at Peter, man. 01:41:46 Speaker 5: Well, he learned his lesson because he didn't tell her the last time she filed a letter. He was like, all right, well, shit, I didn't want to get caught twice. 01:41:53 Speaker 4: That wasn't the same. 01:41:53 Speaker 1: All right. 01:41:55 Speaker 4: I hate you sometimes. But this right here. 01:42:05 Speaker 2: This gives Peter the insight that she doesn't know what happened. And so that Mitzer was actually lying about what happened with Jean Graham. 01:42:13 Speaker 1: I'm dumb. 01:42:14 Speaker 4: They got me. I was like, I don't get it. Wait, what? 01:42:17 Speaker 2: Uh-oh. 01:42:17 Speaker 4: Thank God. 01:42:18 Speaker 8: I wasn't going to get the right treatment. 01:42:24 Speaker 2: So when he tells her that he kissed her and he didn't know. 01:42:28 Speaker 4: She's like, I don't remember anything that happened. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it together that he lied. It took me a minute. I was like, I don't understand. Stop it! I knew he was lying. 01:42:46 Speaker 6: When he did it. 01:42:47 Speaker 4: I did too, but I didn't get how Peter figured it out in that moment. I was like, I don't understand. 01:42:51 Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. 01:42:54 Speaker 2: So, from here, we start to get the backstory of Jean Grey and her sister. Nate, did this help you help empathize with Jean's backstory, like learning more about Jean and why she did what. 01:43:05 Speaker 4: She was doing. 01:43:06 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah. 01:43:07 Speaker 10: Truth be told, I empathized beforehand because I'm just familiar with Jean Grey. So, like I said, I just had, once I realized that this is, oh, this is before she goes to the school, I was kind of like, oh, she just got all these crazy powers and she don't really have no control over them anyway. So, no, it definitely, I kind of empathized, but it made me understand what her motive was. So, yeah, so understanding what her motives were and this really is just an anti-hero. 01:43:38 Speaker 4: So, we almost there, y'all. We almost there. 01:43:40 Speaker 2: It's then revealed that Mitzer has been experimenting on Sarah. And he's about to do the same thing to Gene. And she is repeatedly asking where V-Max is. 01:43:50 Speaker 1: This is perfect. 01:43:52 Speaker 2: Kent, how'd you feel about this whole scene of them going back and forth and him doing the experimentation? 01:44:02 Speaker 1: I thought it was dope. You know, it definitely. 01:44:06 Speaker

5: of course, thought about experimentation that happened on people historically in the real world. 01:44:12 Speaker 1: It showed their evil side. 01:44:15 Speaker 5: And we understood, even all the way up to her looking at the vent and seeing VMAX and flipping out. 01:44:22 Speaker 1: I thought all of that was dope. 01:44:24 Speaker 5: And just even the things that he was saying, like, this is your sister's legacy, never answering the question directly about what happened to the sister, all of this stuff, even though I don't think she necessarily did. But using this as a way to trigger the rest of her powers. That was the thing that I liked because we saw on the scale on the computer screen almost 400 times that. And she went from being just a telepath from what we've seen in the movie to now a telekinetic as well. So it feels like it unlocked everything that she had and she basically locked everybody up. Which in that scene, when we got the backstory, she asked her sister, Sarah, she was like, can I get everybody here? She was like, yeah, with a little practice. But in just that one thing, that emotional response that she had, very similar to what's going on with Peter, she had the. 01:45:20 Speaker 1: Same thing happen to her and then locked her. 01:45:24 Speaker 6: And now she wasn't having it, bro. She is that girl. She is so that girl. 01:45:28 Speaker 4: How'd you feel, Mike? 01:45:29 Speaker 1: Shut it off, shut it off. 01:45:30 Speaker 4: Nope. How'd you feel, Mike, about this scene? The VMAX part? 01:45:34 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 01:45:36 Speaker 4: This was really good. This is how you do a twist. 01:45:38 Speaker 8: Because the whole time, I was like, I don't know what VMAX is. I don't know if VMAX is a drug. I don't know if VMAX is a person. So the whole time, I'm just like, what is VMAX? And for her to look up and just see that that was the air conditioner thing and that was the last thing that her sister saw, I thought this was a really, really, really well-done twist. 01:45:57 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, I wasn't expecting this at all. And I was like, oh, she's dead. Damn, that's fucked up. It was perfect. I thought it was perfect. Did it make sense that this is the way her powers got unlocked, Rod? 01:46:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 01:46:15 Speaker 9: I do think this makes sense because, yeah, I mean, what's more tragic than that, she thought that she was just held captive, but then when she's like, oh, my sister was murdered here. 01:46:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. God. Yeah, that would drive somebody crazy. 01:46:31 Speaker 9: Crazy that has like that type of power and then yeah the way they revealed how strong it was and Again, the people, the B characters in this movie and the way they, like that dude that fell on the bike, he was just like, I don't know if y'all remember. 01:46:45 Speaker 4: I was the only one in the theater. I busted out laughing. He fell like it really. I was like. He busted his ass. 01:46:53 Speaker 1: Oh, God. 01:46:55 Speaker 9: But no, the way everybody just kind of got possessed at once. 01:47:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Man, it was so good. 01:47:03 Speaker 4: Man, the way she was like, you're a murderer. She put it together like. you did this. That was fucking good, man. Yes, I'm good. 01:47:11 Speaker 1: And he really didn't know what VMAX was. Yeah, that part. Oh, yeah, yeah. He said, dude, you're the second person to ask me this. I've never heard of it. 01:47:21 Speaker 10: I saw him and I'm thinking he's lying all the time. 01:47:24 Speaker 6: I'm like, you know. 01:47:25 Speaker 1: What it is. 01:47:26 Speaker 4: That was a good twist, man. No, he really didn't. M. Night Shyamalan, boy. Well, Spider-Man arrives to fight damage control. 01:47:35 Speaker 2: And the damage control security in the hand And through telepathy, Jean Grey is speaking to Spider-Man, asking him who he is. 01:47:45 Speaker 4: The man? Are you Spider-Man or Peter Parker? And his response. I'm both. I'm both. Come on now. Come on now. Boy, that part was dope. Man, that shit hit. I wish it wasn't in the fucking trailer, but it was dope. Oh, it was? 01:47:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:47:59 Speaker 4: That must be the second one. 01:48:01 Speaker 1: I must be. 01:48:01 Speaker 4: That shit hit for me. I was like, yeah, nigga. 01:48:04 Speaker 8: You are. Yeah, just the whole web part and he broke the sword. That was in the trailer. I wish they wouldn't have put that in there. But that was really weird. 01:48:12 Speaker 2: I wish movies would just realize we're not putting anything from the third act in the trailer. 01:48:16 Speaker 4: Yeah. Just do that. Leave us something. Yeah, third act, just leave. 01:48:20 Speaker 10: Off the table or like the edit I like when trailers do like scenes that aren't actually in the movie so maybe it's from the third act but it ended up on the cutting room floor and it ends up in the trailer I do like that. 01:48:32 Speaker 4: Do they still do that I don't know somebody got sued for it Oh, really? 01:48:35 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:48:36 Speaker 1: False advertising? 01:48:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, false advertising. 01:48:38 Speaker 8: What? 01:48:38 Speaker 4: Oh, you fucking losers. 01:48:39 Speaker 1: God. 01:48:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's unfortunate. 01:48:43 Speaker 1: Jesus. 01:48:44 Speaker 2: But yeah, from here, Spider-Man, I guess just from this scene to Spider-Man finally overcoming everything, how'd y'all feel? 01:48:53 Speaker 4: Did y'all not hit? Did it do justice? This was amazing. It went good. I liked the scenes from here to the end. I mean, It was fine. 01:49:06 Speaker 1: A lot of fighting and punching and kicking and stuff. 01:49:08 Speaker 4: A lot of fighting, kicking, punching. 01:49:10 Speaker 1: A lot of punches. 01:49:12 Speaker 4: What did you say before that? Why you do Spike like that, man? Spike doesn't sleep for 15 minutes. I don't know why you do that. 01:49:21 Speaker 1: Nate was ready to talk. He didn't have to go over to

Spike. 01:49:25 Speaker 2: I just asked about the last scene when he Like comes to grips with who he is and he goes up. 01:49:30 Speaker 1: He is. He is. 01:49:31 Speaker 6: That's all good. 01:49:33 Speaker 4: And he does like the spinning and the webs come out. He web everybody up. When he was fighting the ninjas. 01:49:37 Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. 01:49:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. 01:49:40 Speaker 4: I could have stayed sleeping. No, I'm just joking. No, it was good. 01:49:44 Speaker 1: It was good. 01:49:44 Speaker 4: I liked it. 01:49:45 Speaker 1: Did you like it, man? 01:49:47 Speaker 6: I did. 01:49:48 Speaker 4: I did. 01:49:48 Speaker 10: I liked him fully accepting. His role with the arachnid hormones. I liked him getting control. I liked how strong the organic webs were compared. No, this was a fight that had meaning. So, no, I was absolutely here for this. 01:50:08 Speaker 1: And I like the hand, too, the way they move. 01:50:10 Speaker 9: Like I said, I don't have any experience with the hand, how they jump on each other in one jump. 01:50:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Man. 01:50:15 Speaker 6: They were very cinematic. 01:50:16 Speaker 4: I can't forget if you haven't seen Crouching Tiger. But, yeah, that's how this whole, like, what do they call it? What do they call the strings that come from them? 01:50:27 Speaker 8: There's a term for how they fight, like, in the movie, like, where they're floating. 01:50:32 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:50:32 Speaker 4: And it's all from a cable. It's called something. 01:50:35 Speaker 8: Oh, okay. 01:50:35 Speaker 4: But why are you looking at me like that? I'm just listening. You haven't seen Crop Tiger either? I've never seen it. You guys, Jesus. Anyway, I agree with you. The way that they were fighting and just floating like that was so good. 01:50:46 Speaker 9: I like them and I like that, like you said about the webs because it showed that damage control created something because I think Gene told him that too. How do you feel about them creating something to basically control you or whatever? So now that he has this next phase of Spider-Man, now he's able to break through those barriers that they created to. 01:51:05 Speaker 1: Try to stop him. 01:51:06 Speaker 9: So I thought all of that was really cool. Like I said, just the combination of where it looked like he's about to kill that person, but he doesn't. When he said he's both, you immediately see why he's both. So, yeah. At that point, I'm like, dang. 01:51:23 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. 01:51:24 Speaker 1: Spider-Man, that dude. I don't think I realized he was that dude like that until this moment. 01:51:28 Speaker 4: And it's called Wirework, by the way. 01:51:30 Speaker 8: But it's really cool how they did it in this movie. 01:51:33 Speaker 6: I have a question. Sorry. Do you need to go? 01:51:36 Speaker 5: No. 01:51:38 Speaker 10: I know that they may have called it his spider tingle before, but has he really had spidey sense prior to this? 01:51:45 Speaker 6: He did? 01:51:46 Speaker 4: He had spider sense in the last one. 01:51:50 Speaker 2: In that scene where he realizes that he's trying to get all the villains back, he realizes something is off. That's his spider sense. When he was in Affinity War, he had a little cube and Dr. Strange was trying to get it from him, but he was in paralysis. His spider sense was making it move. 01:52:06 Speaker 6: I got you. 01:52:06 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah. 01:52:07 Speaker 10: I don't know why this film just made me feel like, oh, no, he for real got spidey senses. So the heightened spider man, like, yeah, it's just like with the overstimulation scenes and things, it just really drove home his spider senses to me. 01:52:25 Speaker 2: For me, my favorite part in this scene is the small part, but it's when, like, the hand does jump up. 01:52:31 Speaker 4: And Spider-Man was like, oh, that's so cool. He's like, you such a dork. I love that shit. You so lame. 01:52:36 Speaker 2: He's still a kid at heart. 01:52:40 Speaker 1: This was. 01:52:43 Speaker 5: All it is from the moment outside the gate to all the way in and fighting him. They whooped his ass. They tore his ass up. They definitely beat the shit out of him. So he had no choice but to say he bowled. 01:52:55 Speaker 1: Right. 01:52:56 Speaker 4: Because it's by itself. This one's getting the ass whooped. You might need to be bowled. 01:53:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:53:03 Speaker 5: Yeah. But, no, I thought all that was dope. And then, again, going back to, like, it reminded me of the game. And, you know, I saw people saying that they were involved in this. I think even TJ told me that because he was the one that confirmed it. Even when he threw the web and took the guns down, that's from the. 01:53:22 Speaker 1: Game as well. All that shit was dope. It was good choreography. Oh, and I saw Jackie Chan. 01:53:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, his team helped with this too. 01:53:32 Speaker 1: Really? 01:53:32 Speaker 4: I was about to say, I thought he was being racist again. 01:53:35 Speaker 10: Did they help with the ninja choreography or just the choreography in general? 01:53:39 Speaker 8: I guess that would make sense because didn't he do, I think he was really good with the wire work stuff in the old Kung Fu days when he was still doing those. 01:53:48 Speaker 4: I didn't know that, though. That's cool. 01:53:50 Speaker 2: We got two more parts. We finally get the full scene of Aunt May talking to Peter. And Jean Grey is finally part of it. Spike, did this at least hit after seeing it? The first two times, now you get the full conversation with Jean sitting there. Did it actually fit and work as well as you expected it to? 01:54:11 Speaker 7: Yeah, it did better than it would have if Peter had told her that. I think it was good that Aunt May was the one that sat down and told her that. And then her process and all of that and coming to means with it and being like, oh, well, I can be this type of mutant

instead of this type. So I liked how they ended it that way and had her sit around to talk to her. 01:54:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where I.... 01:54:37 Speaker 6: You almost lost it. 01:54:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost lost it all the way here. Like, it just... The way that her words could apply to... to Peter and to Gene. Like, it's not like she changed her words. 01:54:53 Speaker 9: It's the same words. It's the same meaning. So it's just like, it's almost like therapy. Like, it's, you know, it could apply. 01:55:00 Speaker 4: It could apply to, that's Spider-Man. It applies to everybody. 01:55:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, this was really good and just how emotional. 01:55:08 Speaker 9: Because we also saw how Gene was missing her mother and she's like a mother figure to her and she's a mother figure to To Spider-Man. So, like, yeah, man, this is really good writing to tie all this together like that. You know, they both, you know, once teenagers going into, you know, their 20s. And it just applies. You don't have to go through this alone. Like, yeah, man, I really thought this hit. 01:55:36 Speaker 4: You agree now? Yeah. 01:55:37 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. Yeah, I thought. 01:55:44 Speaker 10: Yeah, ultimately, I appreciated the way that it applied to both. It could apply to her just as well as it could for Peter. I liked having May back. I think that because I think Aunt May's death was probably more impactful to. 01:56:00 Speaker 6: Me than any of the emotional scenes here. 01:56:03 Speaker 10: So, yeah, having Aunt May be the one who tells her that because of the maternal issues and especially her losing her big sister, like. all of the maternal figures in her life are gone. So to have May and the fact that Peter kind of understood and knew that, and then also really, and then also he's fine. Also the, the fact that, um, that shoot, I lost my train of thought. 01:56:28 Speaker 6: Peter, May. Yeah, it was good. 01:56:32 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:56:34 Speaker 2: For me, I, I just like, I could just hear that conversation for anybody, any child going through, any person going through anything is like, you're special. Like, there's something, something about you that people just don't understand and that's fine. Like, the people who do love you, they love you for who you are. Like, you have to accept it. Like, I appreciate that. And then, you definitely cried at this part. It's okay if you did. Nah, I got more teary eyed to the, when she said, I don't love you. They had a lot of that in this. But, when Peter also told her like, yeah, she's like, I don't have anybody. 01:57:07 Speaker 4: He's like, you got me. Like, I could have done without that car. 01:57:12 Speaker 6: That's what I was going to say. 01:57:13 Speaker 1: Let's go. 01:57:14 Speaker 4: I mean, it's Peter Parker. 01:57:15 Speaker 2: It's a line I've seen in the comics multiple times. 01:57:19 Speaker 4: That's why I fuck with it. 01:57:20 Speaker 8: It wasn't a big deal, but she don't know you like that. She don't really got you. Yeah, it was corny, but he meant it. 01:57:26 Speaker 11: Yeah, he did. 01:57:27 Speaker 4: Because Peter Parker means it. Like, I'm going to be there for you. Of course he meant it, because he ain't got nobody neither. That's his problem. He tries to be there for everybody. They both need people. 01:57:34 Speaker 10: What I was going to say is that I do think it was cool because he was one of the few people that she couldn't get in his head. So the fact that he allowed her the permission to hear that was dope. 01:57:46 Speaker 6: Peter's such a good guy. 01:57:47 Speaker 4: He's very big on consent. Yes, he is. 01:57:52 Speaker 2: And in the distance, we hear gunshot. And his spider sense picks it up. 01:57:57 Speaker 4: Did it hit? Did it? You were so lame. You wrote that shit down, too. I really did. Did it? 01:58:05 Speaker 1: Though? 01:58:06 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:58:07 Speaker 8: Yes, because, again, with this movie, it's all of these things that I'm not expecting. I was not expecting Punisher. I didn't know what he was doing. I saw him going up there, but I was like, you got to be at least miles away. 01:58:18 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 01:58:20 Speaker 8: I wasn't thinking about he was going to shoot her, even though earlier he kind of implied it. 01:58:24 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm going to take care of it my way. And he hung the phone up. 01:58:28 Speaker 8: This part really, really, really hit because I was not expecting, and maybe I'm dumb, I'm on my Nick shit, but for a good solid five minutes, I was like, okay, maybe Spider-Man's dying. 01:58:38 Speaker 4: And then the next movie, that'll be it. 01:58:41 Speaker 6: Literally, same thing. 01:58:43 Speaker 4: I was thinking that they actually killed him. 01:58:45 Speaker 10: Me and Dom, Dom was like, he was in the movie, he was like, bruh, why would you shoot? 01:58:52 Speaker 8: He did. 01:58:52 Speaker 6: He did. 01:58:53 Speaker 4: It was so quiet. It was. He was like, this is all. That's hilarious. 01:59:00 Speaker 6: That's hilarious. It made people laugh. 01:59:04 Speaker 5: It did. 01:59:05 Speaker 6: I was like, I know you lying. So yeah, I'm with you. 01:59:08 Speaker 10: I literally thought, because I'm expecting somebody to die in this film because they have been wearing black. So I was like, is he really, I was like, are they really about to kill Spider-Man? Like, yeah, I thought he was dead for real. 01:59:19 Speaker 4: John Bernthal killed this part too. 01:59:21 Speaker 8: I mean, he was great all throughout, but when it showed his face, when he realized he shot Peter, this was really good. 01:59:27 Speaker 1: How did he know? 01:59:28 Speaker 4: He has a scope. That's how he shot him. 01:59:31 Speaker 6: He had to aim at something. 01:59:33 Speaker 4: He thought he just shot recklessly? 01:59:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't, yeah, okay. 01:59:39 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:59:40 Speaker 1: This part was good. This part was really

good. Yeah, they showed it before that he had that skull. Yeah, I knew as soon as he brought it up he was about to go in and shoot her. 01:59:50 Speaker 6: I did not know what his plan was. I was like, what, you going to shoot the force field? 01:59:53 Speaker 4: What are you doing? I thought that too. 01:59:56 Speaker 1: Is this a significant gun for him? 01:59:59 Speaker 6: It seemed like it, right? Because of the way they had emphasis on it. 02:00:02 Speaker 4: He's using the, it's like the one with the kind of square-ish end. Is that the one he used? I don't remember. I was just asking. 02:00:09 Speaker 9: I didn't know if Punisher had like a specific gun. 02:00:13 Speaker 4: He just used guns. Yeah, he just used guns. He just used guns, bro. Whatever's in, like he's a trained, like this point, from the military. 02:00:20 Speaker 1: This is really good, yeah. 02:00:21 Speaker 2: Well, but I mean, after that, man, Spider-Man, I mean, he lives through it. That's the gist of it. Like, Punisher gets emotional, you know what I'm saying, a little bit. 02:00:34 Speaker 8: Well, this is my only, I don't want to call it a gripe, it's more of a question because I was confused about this. Why is Punisher able to walk around during the day and no one knows. 02:00:46 Speaker 1: Who he is? 02:00:47 Speaker 8: Because at this point, he's done a lot of shit and the government literally knows him. 02:00:52 Speaker 4: Like, they know who he is. 02:00:54 Speaker 8: So why was he able to go into the hospital? Why was he able to stay in there? Why was he able to be like, I pulled some strings? I didn't understand this part. And I'm sure it's not a mistake. I'm imagining I just missed something. 02:01:05 Speaker 4: No. Maybe I need to explain somewhere else. Oh, y'all don't know either? 02:01:09 Speaker 2: I didn't even think that hard about it. I knew y'all broke out of jail, but I wasn't thinking about him walking around. Because it hasn't really been. 02:01:17 Speaker 2: The hospital part would be the main part where it's like, oh, you out somewhere. Somebody should scoop you up. Everywhere else is like, nobody else is really around. 02:01:25 Speaker 4: But he said something like, I pulled some strings so nobody else would come in here. I thought you were talking about Gene. Nah. 02:01:31 Speaker 8: I thought he, because nobody else, like, they kept his mask on or whatever to do the surgery, I assume. Like, I was confused about all of this. And again, I'm just, I know the movie didn't fuck up. I'm assuming I missed something. 02:01:42 Speaker 2: I was wondering it a little bit, but I didn't care enough to really. I'm going to tell you. At that point, I was at the end of the movie. I was like, they're probably going to explain. I thought it was just a Jean Grey thing. Because a lot of things, I'm thinking, the handshake is something that Jean probably unlocked in Ned. I'm like, a lot of this is going to get explained probably later on with that. So I was like, all right. I'm willing to just let everything else made sense. This right here, I'm pretty sure it's going to come up later. 02:02:08 Speaker 1: I should give them a lot with their telekinetic, keeping pressure on the wound. 02:02:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:02:13 Speaker 8: At that point, she could move stuff with her mind. 02:02:18 Speaker 9: I thought she was just, like, breathing like how people put somebody on a life support. 02:02:22 Speaker 1: So before, you know, just kind of keeping him breathing. 02:02:25 Speaker 8: Well, I thought she was plugging the hole so he didn't bleed out. Because remember, like, in behind, you see all the blood coming out. 02:02:30 Speaker 1: It's probably that, too. 02:02:31 Speaker 4: Maybe it's both. 02:02:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be both. But I more so thought, like, almost like a life machine. 02:02:37 Speaker 4: I know she a mega level, so I know she can do what the hell she want to fuck. 02:02:39 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:02:40 Speaker 6: She is that girl. 02:02:42 Speaker 4: She doing something right. I didn't even question that part. She just did it. Oh, so wait. Were you saying that she mind controlled the doctors in the hospital? That's what I'm thinking. 02:02:51 Speaker 1: Oh, okay. 02:02:52 Speaker 4: That makes sense. She was doing all that in a whole radius. 02:02:56 Speaker 2: She was impacting something that was going on, and I think that's what he's talking about. 02:03:00 Speaker 4: She worked her mind. That's what I thought. Because he said he did it. I didn't know that he said she did it. I don't think he did it. I don't think he pulled any strings. Maybe, but I don't think so. 02:03:08 Speaker 6: I didn't care at this point. 02:03:09 Speaker 4: Okay. All right, go ahead. But yeah, that's all I really had. Did he round out? 02:03:14 Speaker 6: That's all you had? It was one more scene? 02:03:16 Speaker 8: Nah. 02:03:18 Speaker 4: We're not going to talk about the very last end? 02:03:20 Speaker 8: I thought the ending of this movie was perfect. 02:03:23 Speaker 4: With Ned? 02:03:24 Speaker 1: Yes. 02:03:24 Speaker 4: I mentioned it. 02:03:25 Speaker 2: We didn't go into it, motherfucker. How does y'all feel about the ending when he goes to see Ned and he actually does the handshake and he realizes it's Peter? 02:03:37 Speaker 10: I was like that means that Zendaya could get her memories back and they. 02:03:42 Speaker 8: Could steal the tear I think Gene that Gene unlocked it when she did that so this part was so god damn. 02:03:54 Speaker 6: So now the next movie he gotta steal his girl. 02:03:57 Speaker 4: He probably know She. 02:03:58 Speaker 10: Probably had it She already know what's up I mean she got a whole man Like just cause I got These new memories Don't mean Yeah we ain't. 02:04:04 Speaker 5: Seen The whole movie One time Right And she was talking shit About him to Peter. 02:04:08 Speaker 4: I mean she was Yeah he asked you You got a boyfriend You're. 02:04:10 Speaker 2: Like She's

like not really He's like he don't Understand me Like we just kissing You know he come over He bring me flowers and, you know, he might buy me a meal every now and again, but I don't claim that nigga like that. 02:04:20 Speaker 6: That's not what she said. 02:04:21 Speaker 4: That is what she said. 02:04:22 Speaker 6: That's not what she said. She said he don't understand me all the time. That's all she said. 02:04:27 Speaker 4: You don't tell a new dude some shit like that. You know a woman, when you a woman, when you belong to a woman, she tell you. She ain't claim that nigga. 02:04:34 Speaker 1: She got some niggas that she don't like. 02:04:36 Speaker 4: I mean. 02:04:36 Speaker 5: And he founds her unwielding or whatever word she's using. 02:04:40 Speaker 8: I wish I would find out that my girl told some other dude that. 02:04:44 Speaker 4: She didn't even know. Oh, yeah, he just gets me sometimes. What? Yep. How about I don't get you any time? She got a girlfriend. What are we talking about? Telling your girlfriend that is one thing. Telling another nigga that you don't even know? Right. He don't really be getting me. 02:04:57 Speaker 6: I mean, he's a superhero. 02:04:59 Speaker 1: He's behind a curtain. He ain't got a mask. Maybe it's like therapy or. 02:05:05 Speaker 6: What are they doing? 02:05:06 Speaker 4: Right, right. 02:05:07 Speaker 6: You a damn liar. 02:05:07 Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here. 02:05:08 Speaker 4: You a damn liar. 02:05:09 Speaker 8: If you thought your wife was telling some other random ass dude confessions, you lying. 02:05:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, get the hell out of here. 02:05:15 Speaker 1: You lying. 02:05:16 Speaker 4: I don't care if he's swinging on webs or not. Somebody got to die. That's crazy to be telling some other dude that. 02:05:24 Speaker 1: You don't even know. I thought it was dope. I did talk to TJ about the end of this thing. 02:05:32 Speaker 6: He straight diverted. 02:05:33 Speaker 4: Just like Mark Ruffalo. And he said that because it's magic. 02:05:44 Speaker 5: He doesn't think Gene was able to unlock it, that it takes magic to unlock it. 02:05:47 Speaker 4: And that Ned may be the person. 02:05:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was saying that Ned would be the one that has it. 02:05:51 Speaker 6: Because he was able to do the thing. 02:05:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had the magic. 02:05:55 Speaker 10: Yeah. 02:05:55 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I thought the same thing. I was like, oh, shit, she got her thing back. That's why she's crying. Yep. But then when I was talking to him about it, that's when he said, well, Ned would have to be the one. 02:06:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense, too. 02:06:05 Speaker 1: So it could be, but you know. 02:06:07 Speaker 8: But just in that moment, he just coincidentally happened to remember it after he got that shit from Gene. 02:06:12 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, MCU may be making up their own rules. 02:06:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 02:06:16 Speaker 1: But that's what he said. 02:06:17 Speaker 6: But maybe Gene Gray loosed some magic. 02:06:20 Speaker 4: Right. Because she said she broke something in Banner, so maybe she broke something in Ned too. 02:06:23 Speaker 8: Exactly. 02:06:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 02:06:25 Speaker 4: Because I saw people arguing that they don't think Ned actually remembered that that was Peter. 02:06:29 Speaker 8: Yeah. That that was muscle memory. And they're saying it in the chat, too. And I'm like, no, dude, I don't think so. 02:06:34 Speaker 4: I'm not going to argue it. 02:06:36 Speaker 5: I do think that it could be muscle memory, too. I also think that he said Peter. Because he remembered Peter was the name that MJ said when he jumped out the window. 02:06:50 Speaker 1: Because remember, she said, Peter, be careful. And he was like, Spider-Man's name is Peter? 02:06:55 Speaker 6: But they met. 02:06:56 Speaker 1: No, that's right. 02:06:57 Speaker 4: I think so. 02:06:57 Speaker 1: So I think that's what he's doing. 02:06:59 Speaker 2: Where I'm at, honestly, is that everything in this movie has been written so well that they knew exactly how to make us just fester on this shit to the next movie. 02:07:09 Speaker 4: That's a good point. 02:07:10 Speaker 2: And that's where I'm at, where it's like, all right, I'm just going to sit here and wait. Like, when they tell me what it is, cool. Like, I have theories, but I'm not hung up on them. I'm just like, you gave me a great story, and when I get my next Spider-Man. 02:07:22 Speaker 4: Movie, I'm going to be excited that I'm back in this world again. Yeah. 02:07:26 Speaker 8: My only pushback to that. And again, I think the annoying thing about this is none of us know. So, of course, people are like, no, you're wrong. 02:07:32 Speaker 6: No, you're wrong. 02:07:32 Speaker 8: But it's like my pushback would be why would he say Peter in that moment? Like, why would he connect him like, oh, you must be Spider-Man? Because all he did was walk over and do the handshake. So why would that make him think, oh, you must be Spider-Man? 02:07:47 Speaker 1: Zendaya. 02:07:48 Speaker 4: MJ. 02:07:49 Speaker 8: No, Zendaya earlier when he jumped out the window, she said Peter. Yeah. 02:07:53 Speaker 1: Right? 02:07:53 Speaker 8: Why would that connect him to Peter at the end when when ned thought his name was was was maynard. 02:07:59 Speaker 4: Yeah that's true it wouldn't make any sense. 02:08:01 Speaker 1: Yeah true he said his name was peter no. 02:08:04 Speaker 8: No he did no ken's right no ken's right he did when when he walked up he said he shook ned's head i think he said my name is peter. 02:08:10 Speaker 1: Oh okay Yeah, so then they did the secret handshake. 02:08:13 Speaker 4: Unless Ken just mind-tricked me. 02:08:14 Speaker 6: No, he didn't. 02:08:16 Speaker 4: That did happen, I'm pretty sure. 02:08:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he was like, Peter, oh, you might be Peter Spider-Man. I don't

know. Could be. 02:08:25 Speaker 4: I don't know. 02:08:26 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 02:08:27 Speaker 4: No, yeah, I'm with you. None of us know. But it's fun to theorize, so people, you know. 02:08:31 Speaker 1: Which is why I like what Jalen said. They did this shit on purpose because they got everybody on forums and shit debating whether or not he knew or not. 02:08:37 Speaker 4: That's also why they gave us the post-credit scene they gave us. That post-credit scene was trash. It's not. 02:08:42 Speaker 1: It is. It's not. 02:08:43 Speaker 4: Get that bullshit the fuck out of here. It should have been a mid-credit scene. 02:08:47 Speaker 1: It's not. 02:08:48 Speaker 4: Not a post-credit. 02:08:49 Speaker 1: It could have been a mid-credit. 02:08:50 Speaker 4: Make me sit all the damn time for that. Hey, man, it's up to you. There's another Spider-Man in space. 02:08:54 Speaker 2: You can always look it up if you want to. 02:08:56 Speaker 4: I did. It said there is a post-credit scene. I was like, let me wait. 02:08:59 Speaker 2: Uh-uh. 02:09:01 Speaker 5: The way y'all was saying it was like it was irrelevant to everything. 02:09:05 Speaker 4: I didn't say that. I just said it's not worth waiting for. It's not. You could have looked that shit up on YouTube. 02:09:13 Speaker 8: Because it was 10 seconds and it wasn't even exciting. 02:09:16 Speaker 1: I stayed twice to watch it. 02:09:21 Speaker 4: I didn't say that second time. I got my ass up and went to watch it. 02:09:23 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear the reaction from the crowd. 02:09:25 Speaker 4: Oh, the third time. 02:09:25 Speaker 1: I definitely got up. 02:09:28 Speaker 4: Wait, what did you say that one time? I didn't say it. 02:09:30 Speaker 2: After the first time seeing it, the next two times, I got my ass up. 02:09:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, what the fuck? 02:09:33 Speaker 1: Try to leave the third time. He lying. 02:09:36 Speaker 4: He going to stay again. 02:09:38 Speaker 1: What do y'all have to say about it? 02:09:40 Speaker 4: It's just showing that Spider-Man is now off-world, right? 02:09:44 Speaker 1: That's what I thought the first time. Oh. Yeah, I thought. 02:09:47 Speaker 5: So Jalen's going to have to probably chime in here. So the first time I thought it was Secret Wars and that Spider-Man was no longer on Earth and that he's on another planet. 02:09:56 Speaker 4: Okay, so what do you think now? 02:09:57 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. 02:09:58 Speaker 5: But then this time I saw it said new Spider-Man detected, which they were saying. 02:10:04 Speaker 1: Hold on. They were saying that it was Miles Morales. 02:10:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't no damn Miles Morales. 02:10:10 Speaker 1: And I... So, I don't know. 02:10:13 Speaker 4: It's not Miles Morales. No, actually, you know what? 02:10:15 Speaker 1: Never mind. 02:10:15 Speaker 4: Every time I do this, I'm wrong. 02:10:16 Speaker 5: Because it said new Spider-Man detected, and then it went to, like, this other planet, and

then it said spider detected. 02:10:23 Speaker 1: Miles Morales isn't on this Earth, right? 02:10:25 Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be Miles. I think it's one of the other spider people. It could be. It's Toby or it's Andrew. Again, it keeps us doing what the fuck we're doing right now. 02:10:33 Speaker 2: Just guessing, like, because even the animated Spider-Man comes out next year, and you realize Daniel Glover was in the last one. 02:10:41 Speaker 4: And he's from... Some people assume he's from this universe because he showed up before. So it's like. 02:10:46 Speaker 6: This the part that I can't get into. 02:10:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:10:48 Speaker 2: So it's a lot of nerdy shit. It could be a variety of things. It's just cool for nerds to sit and talk about it because some of us will debate and everyone gets a new theory. Like, oh, your theory makes sense. Or you can shit on other people's theory. 02:10:58 Speaker 4: That's all. 02:10:58 Speaker 1: And it was literally just a spotty tracker. 02:11:01 Speaker 6: You saying that to make me feel better about... You saying we should go? 02:11:05 Speaker 4: Oh, you didn't miss anything. You saying you left? You didn't miss anything. 02:11:08 Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to tell her. You're not going to... It's not a scene. Yeah. It's not a scene. It's just a Spidey tracker. 02:11:14 Speaker 4: And it's a Spider-Man will return. That's it. 02:11:16 Speaker 1: You really are. So I was talking to TJ. TJ didn't really know. 02:11:21 Speaker 5: He thought it could be, well, kind of what you were saying, another Spider-Man, maybe one of the other ones. 02:11:28 Speaker 4: Spike going to kill us, bro. 02:11:29 Speaker 1: Toby. Maybe Toby. 02:11:32 Speaker 4: Okay, you're right. 02:11:32 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 02:11:33 Speaker 4: I figured it was like, is it one of the incursion type of situations? 02:11:35 Speaker 1: Could be. 02:11:37 Speaker 4: I don't have an answer for you. Then why are you hosting? Yeah, but that's it, man. We appreciate y'all listening. I guess we're going to try to get through some of these super chats. I don't think we're going to get through them. Oh, I forgot we had super. 02:11:52 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:11:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:11:53 Speaker 4: I thought we were done. 02:11:54 Speaker 2: We probably could just do something next week and post a video for y'all. 02:11:59 Speaker 4: Like, what are you thinking? 02:12:00 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's a lot. All right. 02:12:03 Speaker 4: We could just. You should have cut them shits off. 02:12:06 Speaker 1: Huh? 02:12:06 Speaker 4: You should have cut them off. 02:12:07 Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I did. 02:12:09 Speaker 4: We could do a couple of them and probably. 02:12:10 Speaker 1: Post a video. We'll see what we can do. 02:12:12 Speaker 4: We could post a video of it. 02:12:13 Speaker 1: I mean, we could do it tomorrow. No, no, no. There's some related to the movie. So let's just see what we got. 02:12:20 Speaker 4: Thank you for listening to our live review. 02:12:22 Speaker 2: If you would like to hear us answer Super Chats, be sure to go to youtube.com forward slash FPS podcast. 02:12:28 Speaker 4: But if you would like to be. 02:12:28 Speaker 2: A part of the chat and submit your own Super Chats in our next live, be sure to follow us at FPS podcast on Twitter, and Instagram, and subscribe to our YouTube channel, youtube.com, FPS Podcast, to receive updates for our next upcoming live. 02:12:44 Speaker 4: Thank you for listening. 02:12:45 Speaker 2: Shout out to Nate for joining us. And if you want more of Nate, Nate's actually on the House of Dragon reviews. So we have two more episodes left. We have episode seven that we'll be releasing later on this week, and episode eight that comes out next week. And if you just want more Nate, just stick around. She may pop up again. So listen to everything if you want to find out. 02:13:03 Speaker 4: This review needed intermission. I got to pee. 02:13:05 Speaker 5: Bye. 02:13:05 Speaker 4: I'll talk to y'all later, man. 02:13:06 Speaker 2: Bye.