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Speaker 2: If we for the streets, then that's fine. So, you're now tuned in to the Frames Per Second podcast. And in this episode, we are recapping the third season of the... What is it?
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Speaker 1: Um.
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Speaker 2: The Adult Swim. Is it an Adult Swim original series or is it Cartoon Network technically?
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Speaker 3: It's Adult Swim. Okay.
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Speaker 2: The Adult Swim original series coming from the DC lore.
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Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's.
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Speaker 2: From James Gunn himself or whatever, but My Adventures with Superman.
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Speaker 4: We're recapping season three.
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Speaker 2: And I think we're long overdue for this one, but I think this will be a good, interesting conversation. I think we're all fans of the show, the series, especially, I think, Jay, you, from the last conversation we had about it, it's leaning more into that weird. I feel like America is trying to get into that weird blend of animated anime because they know this is like a huge sector. So it was like, we want to do anime on an animated budget.
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Speaker 4: Basically.
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Speaker 2: So I'm curious to get your thoughts on this third season, but yeah, let's start off with you since we focus on your perspective on this, Jay.
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Speaker 4: What's your raw thoughts on the season?
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Speaker 3: Overall thoughts on the season? I think it was an okay season. I don't know, man. I guess it's also not being the biggest Superman fan. I say that I'm a fan, but I just don't think I'm dying to see Superman. You know what I'm saying? I like James Gunn's iteration of him. And this one is kind of similar to that. It just seems like, and I like the animated series. I grew up watching the animated series. But I don't know, I don't think I'm like, I don't know, it's not completely connecting for me this season. I think maybe it's probably just me, but the season just felt like, eh, to me.
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Speaker 2: Out of the Justice League, I guess, lineup, from what we grew up watching, who was your go-to, like who, like who would have you wanted to see a series out of?
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Speaker 3: Who would I want to?
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Speaker 4: Like, or like, who do you gravitate towards?
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Speaker 2: Cause like you mentioned that Superman, cause you've been a Superman, not the, I won't say defender, but a critic when it comes to like the way he's been portrayed in live action as of recently, I was recently as far as the last decade.
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Speaker 4: Um, so I was based off of that.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking that this would be a show that you really like, um, So I'm interested in knowing, like, since hearing you say that you're not the biggest fan of his, but you're a fan of, like, most of the stuff that we watched as a kid since we come from the same era.
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Speaker 4: Like, out of that, that's what I'm wondering.
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Speaker 2: Like, out of that Justice League lineup, what is, like, who's your number one?
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Speaker 3: Well, Flash is the one that I used to fuck with the most in Justice League. Okay. It's just Flash, and then it would be Green Lantern. But that's why even with me saying I'm not being the biggest fan, it's like, I am a fan. I think I'm just not a fan of this show like that. You know what I'm saying? It's just... It seems like it's... Tonally, something's off a little bit for me. I don't know what it is.
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Speaker 4: And maybe while I'm talking to y'all.
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Speaker 3: It'll come... I can flush it out a little bit more. But something's off where it's like I'm not fully engaged when I'm watching the show. And I don't know what it is.
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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, it's cool.
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Speaker 3: It's a nice show to put on. And I'm interested in comic book shit, so I'm going to watch it. But it's just like I'm not fully invested in the show when I'm watching. The first season I was. But since then, last season was okay when Cora came. Cora came. I said Cora. But now it's just like, okay, cool.
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Speaker 4: Ken, what about you? What were your thoughts on this third season?
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Speaker 5: I thought it closed well.
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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 5: The show is a goofy show.
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Speaker 1: It started out as a goofy show, but they have a tendency to get a little bit serious as the season progressed. And right around, I can't remember, it's been a while. But they did the same thing here, where it got a little bit more serious. Superman became a little bit more vulnerable. So if this is a story arc, and I think it is, and I don't mess with Superman like that, I was really interested in the ways they tried to make him less powerful and the different things that they did with him towards the end of the season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: But overall, yeah, I found myself enjoying it, especially towards the end.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I enjoyed this season, but I enjoy this season as a binge watch. I had to watch it in batches because I realized, to your point, Jay, the tone is.
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Speaker 1: I.
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Speaker 2: Feel like they're trying to be the tone of how Avatar The Last Airbender was, where the first episodes are kind
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of goofy and silly. And then they get more serious as the show progresses. But I feel like they do this with every season. The first few episodes of every season is goofy and silly. Then it gets more and more serious. Like, okay, we actually have to talk about real things and deal with real life. Because these are all adults at the end of the day. They're not kids like they were for Avatar. So I had to watch it in batches. Whereas the first few episodes came out, I binge watched or I ran through those. But it's a week-to-week show, so it's kind of like I had to wait for a little bit for it to kind of finish off. And like you mentioned, Ken, I liked how it finished. But I'm also kind of curious to see where else can it go. Because they're already hitting on a lot of storylines. They're running through the comics of the best stories of Superman, in my opinion. Or some of the best characters or some of the best plot points. So I'm not sure how much more this series can go. And most cartoon series don't even last longer than four, five seasons at best. So I enjoyed it, but I'm nervous, if I should say. And of course, since this is a 10 episode season, we're not going to cover everything. I just want to cover the main points because we ain't got that much time. But the season kicks off with the aftermath of Brainiac's defeat. So we pick up after where season two left. where we got introduced to Clark's cousin or Kal-El's cousin, and the introduction of another character that they brought into it, which is, I guess, supposed to be Bizarro, but they're just kind of in this universe. They're naming him as the Kryptonian clone. And then we also talk about Henshaw as the cyborg Superman.
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Speaker 1: So....
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Speaker 2: That's kind of where we get through as far as these first three episodes, but I'll start with episode one as it introduces the Kryptonian clone raised, uh, with love by Dr.
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Speaker 3: Binder.
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Speaker 2: Um, and then it, it also gets to talk about more of Kara's, um, background and how she grew up.
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Speaker 4: So I'll start with you, Jay.
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Speaker 2: How well did this parallel set up with Kara's ongoing identity crisis following Brainiac's defeat?
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Speaker 3: Um, It's been a minute since I watched this, but it's all coming back to me. Boomerang reference. But I like it because it's pivotal to her character across the medium. So they kind of have to do this because she has an identity crisis. And it's different than what Superman's identity crisis is, basically, because she knows what it's like to be a Kryptonian. Now she has to try to fit in. And so, yeah, this part was pretty good. Jimmy ass was annoying me, though.
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Speaker 5: That motherfucker there was getting on.
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Speaker 4: My nerves, bro. You just wanted to get to that. Because he black hated. If he was white, you wouldn't even care about it because he just being Jimmy.
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Speaker 3: Pretty much.
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Speaker 5: Probably.
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Speaker 4: Probably. I'm lying.
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Speaker 3: I'm bullshitting. But no, it just was annoying. Like, Bruh, she like you, you like her. Why you making this difficult, nigga?
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Speaker 4: Nigga, it ain't that hard. It's, bruh.
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Speaker 2: Ken, you know why he's saying that. Because he's trying to protect his own heart. You know, that's what he's trying to do.
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Speaker 1: Nah, Jalen's right. This was the worst part of this whole season. They had him doing a lot of goofy, dumb shit, bro. They played Jimmy.
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Speaker 5: Black Jimmy.
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Speaker 2: Kind of, sort of, Ken, because, like, I think he, here's how I'm thinking about it. Cause at first I was just going to try to defend like Jimmy's based off what he says in the show is like, listen, I really do like you damn near love you, but you just got here. I want you to kind of make sure that you know that you want to be with me. Cause there's a lot of people that I think are in this world that could be better suited for you.
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Speaker 4: But I, but once you choose me, I know that I'm chosen and I can go with it. Here's the nigga side of it, though.
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Speaker 2: Hold on. You see how he was moving in this season, though. That nigga was on the apps. And Jay, if you know anything about being in the apps in Atlanta, bro.
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Speaker 4: The selection is nuts. The selection is nuts.
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Speaker 2: Is crazy and you see when he he pulled over thick gigantic you know that we're gonna text you about that episode she was too thick and i was like for kids this is a kid show but nah he was playing he was playing to save kids like all right At worst case scenario, I got a Kryptonian batty. Let me run through these little metro, what's the city called?
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Speaker 4: Metropolis bitties.
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Speaker 3: Metropolis, yeah.
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Speaker 4: And then I'm going to come back to her.
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Speaker 5: Everyone on me don't look stupid.
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Speaker 2: Because you know who her cousin is, kid, so you can't break.
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Speaker 4: Her heart. You see there, his cousin go up. The cousin, just her. That too.
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Speaker 2: But that's why I'm chalking it up to that. But, Ken, overall, what were your thoughts on Kara this season?
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Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily care for her early in this season, you know, but as it went on and we started to see her really kind of mature and show power, show how powerful she was in spots, then I started to really enjoy her.
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Speaker 3: But, yeah, but, no, it was still, she was all right.
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Speaker 2: I thought she, like, to Jay's point, I liked how they talked about identity crisis a lot this season, especially from the two main Kryptonians, but from a different viewpoint with Clark struggling with who is he outside of being Superman and her struggling with who am I outside of Krypton? You know, so, like, I did find that interesting. It did kind of run too
long, which is why I was glad that we kind of... It felt like this season was, like, split up in, like, in how I'm going to break down his... these questions, it splits up into thirds. This is the third act that kind of leads us to the full theme, but they're setting it up because that leads us right into Lex Luthor's buildup of the cyborg Superman.
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Speaker 4: Lex Luthor was introduced, I believe, last season.
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Speaker 2: And we get to see how he How much he hates Superman because how much Superman makes him feel small in a way.
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Speaker 4: As far as like.
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Speaker 2: We have so many other things out here that I thought like being the smartest human in the world was good enough.
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Speaker 4: Now I realize.
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Speaker 2: Niggas can fly and do all this other shit. So I have to come up with something that can combat that. Out of his own insecurity.
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Speaker 1: And then.
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Speaker 2: As he's creating this. Jimmy and Lex have a weird relationship that I don't think has ever been shown in the comics.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Jay. Again, I haven't read the comics in a long time.
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Speaker 2: But in this series, they're making it seem like they was homeboys back in the day or some shit like that. And he can kind of talk to them. Jay, what did you think about Lex Luthor this season when it comes to... the shit that he was doing, uh, with these cyborgs.
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Speaker 3: I don't like the way they treated, cheating my boy Lex, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. Like they taking too long for him to really get to the shits. You know what I'm saying? Like they, they giving us a little bit of like who Lex is supposed to be, I guess. Cause I feel like they punking him with Amanda Waller and I don't like that shit.
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Speaker 4: I fuck with that.
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Speaker 3: I don't like that shit. Like Lex is, Lex is arrogant. A nigga. Like it makes, it makes Lex look more, uh, unsure of himself. You know what I'm saying? And that's part of his, part of the reason why Lex fails is because he's so arrogant and always thinks he can, like, he's the person, the only person that can really defeat Superman. But they're making him feel like a lackey a little bit. And I don't really like that shit. I'm not a fan of that.
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Speaker 4: What about you, Ken?
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Speaker 5: I think that only really happened when an old boy.
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Speaker 3: Turned on him. To my slave? And showed.
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Speaker 5: Not just Slater. The Superman.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Pizarro, whatever they call him. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When that happened, he had a whole new attitude because he was talking big shit up until that point. And then when that guy said he was in charge, he's a new boss, then things started to change. Now, with Amanda Waller, it's a little bit different. But, yeah, because she, you know. But Amanda Waller punks a lot of people, though. You know, so she has that type of power and influence. I guess.
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Speaker 2: To me, Amanda Waller is one of the most underrated, underutilized characters in this whole universe. And that's in all formats. Even when you go back to the cartoons that we used to watch. I'll set that aside because I think we'll get to her a little bit later. I think that, again, Jay, the way they're telling this universe story of Superman, Lex isn't fully the grown version of himself. And if he is, or if this is how we're supposed to take him, He is someone who is just moving out of more... Again, this season is about feeling not worthy. How do you value yourself in a place that is either foreign to you or just is starting.
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Speaker 4: To feel foreign to you?
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Speaker 2: And I think with him, the way he was going about it was in a villainous way where it's like, these are aliens. They are strong enough to take us over. I'm insecure with myself because, again, I am able to do a lot of things, but I can't fight these motherfuckers. So I have to scheme around that shit. And my confidence comes from me thinking I'm the smartest man in the room. And when he's not, that's when he cowers. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like Homelander. Well, not from smarts, but from a brute force standpoint.
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Speaker 3: I guess that'll get a little bit different. I don't know. I just... The Lex on the music scene has a little bit more swagger. You know what I'm saying? And this nigga here.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this one definitely don't. This one definitely don't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he a little chump.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he a little bitch ass nigga.
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Speaker 2: But I think that's made, again, I'm viewing this as a, even though it's on Adult Swim, that's why I had to ask that question because it feels like a Cartoon Network show, like what we used to watch, like Toonami type shit.
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Speaker 4: Because I'm like, I think they're just trying to drive home the point to kids.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, he's the villain. Like, you don't want to be him. You don't want to be a bitch ass nigga and you on the wrong side.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, but at the same time, like with the animated series, you knew he was a bad guy because of how smokey he was. You know what I'm saying? Like there was just a, it was an aura or arrogance to him that you felt. You don't feel that with this Lex. Like you see him doing bad things like, oh, but it still feels like I don't know. It's just not.
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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying because that version of Lex from the event of.
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Speaker 4: What is it? The Adventures of Superman?
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Speaker 3: No, you know what? The animated back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's it called again?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is League and animated... Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I always grew up, thought Lex was black.
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Speaker 2: Cause like you mentioned, the way, and granted, I know there's a white man
playing his voice, but the way he sounded as a kid, I was like, that's a black. And he had that tan. He had that heavy tan in the, in the back of the day cartoon. I was like, ball hit it. Hey, he wasn't little nigga. He was like stocky and shit.
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Speaker 4: Like obviously he was human.
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Speaker 2: So he couldn't fight Superman, but he could beat anybody else.
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Speaker 4: So it felt like it. So I get what you mean.
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Speaker 2: This Lex is like, Mark Zuckerberg version. I guess that's the era that we're in now. We're out of the masculine era. We're now in the dorky era. Because even Superman dorky.
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Speaker 4: In this shit. Superman's always dorky. He's usually dorky. Like this?
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Speaker 3: Not like this.
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Speaker 4: Think about the Clark Kent you're talking about from the animated show. He wasn't this dorky.
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Speaker 3: But he's dorky. There's a dorkiness to him. Like, I guess, but you're right. This feeling is kind of how I feel about Flash and Homecoming. And like the Home series, the Home trilogy.
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Speaker 4: It's like, nah. You said Flash or you mean Spider-Man? No, Flash.
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Speaker 3: Like how Flash is. Flash is usually like, he eventually turns into like an anti-herald or a hero low-key. But at the same time, the beginning of Flash is supposed to be like that jock who's supposed to get on your nerves strong and all that bullshit. And they made him like a Just a nerd bully. Like a lame bully. Like he was.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I get what you're saying. I know what you're saying. You threw me off.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking of DC, you went to Marvel. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, that was a weird flip. But again, going with this dorky period, because this is the last question I ask about this, because Ken, I know you don't give a fuck about this, so I'll start with you anyway. Not only do we got Jimmy acting weird with Kara... We see Lois. She got cold feet with Clark. And that's a big plot point for some reason that they added into this when it comes to their relationship and her being afraid to settle down. What did you think about that relationship dynamic between Lois and Clark? Or did you even give a fuck?
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Speaker 1: I don't think I really cared all that much because I knew they were going to they were going to eventually be together anyway. Cause I don't even really remember it all that much. Um, but yeah, so, cause it really didn't make any sense. Like, why are you acting like this? Like, you know, what are you insecure about? What's your issues? Like, but at the end of the day, we know they're going to be together and, you know, and it became evidently clear, especially halfway through that season.
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Speaker 5: But, uh, but yeah, I didn't really care all that much about that.
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Speaker 4: What about you, Jay?
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Speaker 3: I don't think I really cared, so I'm like with Ken, they just made Lois a nigga.
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Speaker 2: Why you say that?
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Speaker 3: Running from commitment the way she was. As soon as she saw that we're getting married, all this.
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Speaker 4: About kids? That was the thing that I'm like, this is a new era.
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Speaker 2: Because usually it usually goes off of the normal.
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Speaker 2: Or I guess how society would consider normal gender roles, where it's like the woman is, like, ready to set up the marriage and the house and all that. But Clark was the one who was, like, he was creating all these little doll creations and shit, saying, like, oh, yeah, this is going to be us. I can't wait for us to have kids and shit. Like, nigga, I mean, at first I was thinking, like, she could at least say, nigga, put a ring on my finger. You can fly over the goddamn world, but you can't buy me a goddamn ring. But, too, mostly she was just talking about, like, I think she was battling, like, am I going to be a good parent? Like, am I even going to be a good wife? Like, I've never really grown up with that. So that was, again, the whole season about worthiness.
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Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting.
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Speaker 3: That, but it's also, if it's in line with Lois' character, like, Lois is, she doesn't need Clark. You know what I'm saying? Like, most times, like, they do these, like, romantic relationships. Like, yeah, he ends up saving her, but he ends up saving her because she's always trying to put her job first. Like, she's always usually, like, in the position to, of, like, she's going to handle it. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's where that comes from, which I kind of like it. I just don't really care about the relationship. You know what I'm saying? Like, their relationship is one of those things where it's just like, okay, Lois and Clark, Superman and Lois Lane. Like, it gets drawn out. Like, I don't care. I mean, y'all always going to end up together. I get it.
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Speaker 2: I find their relationship, and again, this is my last thoughts on this, because it leads into the rest of this review, because of how their relationship is actually very meaningful. But at the same time, I always question, why the fuck is Superman with Lois Lane? I feel like the first few episodes, even though maybe you can argue the whole season, was trying to justify why Clark needs Lois and Lois needs Clark, or why they're both meant to be together. because they had to literally take this nigga's powers away for him to be just a regular person for us to see that she loves him for who he is, not for what he is.
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Speaker 4: But I've always been like, bro, there's Wonder Woman.
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Speaker 5: There's the man.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, he dated her, but they never ended up together. I'm like, bro, like... Nah, it makes sense.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Jay, it's like.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to get disrespectful again.
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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about looks.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about status level.
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Speaker 2: It's like a Beyonce guy with a janitor from Abbey Elementary.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, she can love him, but he a janitor.
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Speaker 3: No disrespect. It makes sense. It makes sense because she represents the... because I was listening to journalism, the one that's always fighting back against the establishment. You know what I'm saying? She's a representation of that, of being just an average human, which Clark wants to be doing that, fighting back and having the audacity to always fight back no matter what. Putting herself in that kind of... It makes sense why he's attracted to her. That makes sense why they are together. I just, I guess, I'm so used to the back and forth. Their relationship isn't... I'll say this. It is a piece of Superman that matters because it kind of keeps him grounded in a way, just like his parents do.
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Speaker 2: But I'm just over it. But that's the thing. That's why I get with you. Because they changed up a lot of ways we look at characters in this show versus how we traditionally look at them.
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Speaker 4: But to me, it's like, bro, we got his parents for that. That's his human connection.
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Speaker 2: Even in the James Gunn, like that was a heavy human connection for why he is who he is. Why do we need to have this journalist? They can still be cool. They can even be exes or whatever. But why do we have to have this journalist be such a weight to who he is as a like to his humanity? And again, I guess I get I get the whole reason why, because historically that's been the case.
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Speaker 4: But I'm just kind of like, bro.
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Speaker 2: I could give him, like, after a few episodes, and luckily they changed it as what we're getting to. It was just, to me, I was just wondering, I was like, why are they making me have to really care about this relationship? Just say they're together. Like, I don't need a reason why he fucks with her and she fucks with him. He's Superman. That's why she fuck with him. that's the first that's the first woman.
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Speaker 6: Who ever looked at him who ever looked at him hey kid you know how it is sometimes you just want you just want a you want a woman who's a little sassy you know what I'm saying just cause she she's gonna humble you you know what I'm saying she's gonna make sure that you on your P's and Q's any other woman that would've been with him been just like I'm just happy to be with Superman so I get it but at the same time bro again there's Wonder Woman out there in the.
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Speaker 2: But moving on. Between episodes four and five, we see while Lois and Clark are still figuring out what their relationship is, we see a random nigga pop up who has an S on his chest and it ain't Soulja Boy running for president.
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Speaker 4: It's John Kent.
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Speaker 2: And he arrives from a shitty-ass future to prevent Cyborg Superman from taking down the House of L, quote-unquote.
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Speaker 4: And this has become like the biggest part of the middle season. Ken, how did you react.
00:25:59
Speaker 2: To John revealing that both Lois and Clark are dead in his timeline? And do you think that changed the stakes for Lois as far as how she views shit?
00:26:09
Speaker 3: Oh, it definitely did.
00:26:10
Speaker 1: And that had a big impact on her for a good portion of the season. You know, it's shocking for somebody to come back from a future and then you hear that you're not in it. You know, you know, at some point everybody dies, but, you know, and you will eventually die, especially her. But to find out that that was the case and that was the situation and, you know, it definitely shook her a bit and started to question a lot of things that she had about herself and her future and her relationship with Superman.
00:26:47
Speaker 4: I was thinking as well. If you didn't have kids, remember back in the time when you didn't have your boys. I do.
00:26:57
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the times when you, you know, saying, I hope the wife ain't listening, but like when you was in the streets, you know what I'm saying? And imagine you woke up on a Tuesday afternoon and some nigga pulled up that looked like Miles and said, oh yeah, by the way, you're my daddy in about 10, 15 years. You'll be like, that would blow up, that would blow your.
00:27:16
Speaker 4: Whole week, at least.
00:27:17
Speaker 3: No, it wouldn't.
00:27:19
Speaker 4: It wouldn't blow my week.
00:27:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nigga, you ain't mine. You ain't mine. Nigga, you ain't mine. Get out.
00:27:29
Speaker 4: What you mean?
00:27:30
Speaker 2: Jay, it's for a fact. Let's say you took the test and it's for a fact that you.
00:27:34
Speaker 4: His daddy, he was happy. It don't matter.
00:27:37
Speaker 3: I'm in today.
00:27:39
Speaker 4: When you in existence.
00:27:42
Speaker 3: then we'll worry about it then but today nigga you ain't mine so you can say in 14 15 years I'm gonna have you cool nigga I got 14 15 years to worry about that I ain't nah nah nigga I ain't got nothing to worry about go back to your future nigga go back to it you sharing that same thought Ken.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: Uh remember how you always had these greatest fears.
00:28:09
Speaker 4: That's one of them I feel that though. I feel that.
00:28:17
Speaker 5: I feel that.
00:28:18
Speaker 3: Hey, Ken, it's a couple in the past where the timeline gets sketchy.
00:28:25
Speaker 4: Hey, you like, hey, you don't
want that day to come and be like, hey, guess what? I thought he was. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ain't no get back.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, you preaching on a Monday night because there's something.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: It's not even timeline. It's more about situations.
00:28:40
Speaker 3: I'm like.
00:28:42
Speaker 2: I'm good if I don't hear nothing in the next 15 years. I'll be looking at my phone every now and then and be like, we made it another day. This is a sci-fi version of a nigga getting that latex.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: Super late text. You know what? I thought this nigga was. But you remember that time? Now, I don't remember shit.
00:29:13
Speaker 2: That time was scary.
00:29:17
Speaker 4: We all black men looking alike to a certain extent.
00:29:20
Speaker 2: You start pulling off the white man's rhetoric.
00:29:29
Speaker 4: But no, I.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: Thought, I always find this time traveling shit when it comes to like, not even, I'm more comfortable with like your older self coming, you know, talk to you and say like, Hey, this is what, you know, what's going on. But like having a child of yours coming, that's a whole different thing. Cause first of my first, I.
00:29:45
Speaker 4: Was like, who's your mama? Second of all, when did you, when did this happen? If you can remember your date.
00:29:51
Speaker 2: And third is like, is he actually a, he or she, um, or, or they are a good kid. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, Those are the main three things in that order, but.
00:30:02
Speaker 3: I did find it. Imagine if Tay-K came back as your child.
00:30:06
Speaker 2: I was going to say, imagine a nigga like Kodak Black coming back as your kid, Jay. That would be like, you at least got Kodak money, nigga.
00:30:23
Speaker 3: Yeah. We sound terrible.
00:30:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do.
00:30:28
Speaker 4: But he's, but if we talk about people that don't exist, things that don't exist, again, we're talking about in the guise of a cartoon, but, but I.
00:30:36
Speaker 2: I feel like this was a, uh, this actually helped the series, the season for me again, uh, because I was interested in knowing like, of course there's always like, what the fuck happened in your future?
00:30:47
Speaker 4: Who caused it?
00:30:49
Speaker 2: And, and, if it's that bad, then the world had to have end. And I'm always interested in seeing how they're going to change it. I feel like this also changed Lois in a way that was interesting solely from the fact of she now understood that I think it was more confirmation is that we can still raise good kids or like, like the thing that I've been fearing the most starting a family with you actually ended up being a really thing, a good thing. Like it actually, These kids actually are cool as shit or like at least they're at least responsible enough. They may still be kids and childlike, but I know that I played a big part in their upbringing and they still come out somewhat decent. I thought this
was a really good thing for her that kind of led her into even stepping up in her own right. Because like she's a general in the future and most of these crossovers that we're going to talk about. But she's also someone that they were like, but you actually held it down for the world. Like, you know what I'm saying? I thought that was interesting.
00:31:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Ken. No, go ahead. Go ahead, bro. I guess this is the part that kind of I didn't like. I don't like the time travel piece of season two. Like, I just, I don't know. I get it. I get it. But it's just, actually, I don't get it. We don't have to do this. We don't have to do this. We didn't. Like, I was a fan. I know we're going to talk about Hank.
00:32:17
Speaker 4: I wanted more of that.
00:32:19
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So this time travel shit, I'm like, bro, get these little niggas out of here. I don't need that.
00:32:27
Speaker 4: What about you, Ken?
00:32:32
Speaker 5: No, I was fine with it. I thought it was cool.
00:32:35
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: I think it was around this part where the whole series started to flip for me because we were told that there were some serious consequences to.
00:32:48
Speaker 1: Actions that happened and that he came back to try to fits the shit. And, um, and I was like, okay, well, let's see how they play this out and where we're going to go from here. So, um, so yeah, now I'm starting to perk up. Like you were saying earlier, I'm with you on binging it. This isn't, the episodes are way, way too short for me to watch this week to week, but, uh, it was really good.
00:33:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:33:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a bitch, you can get cut through the goofy shit. You know what I'm saying? As a week to week, it's like, all right, bro.
00:33:24
Speaker 3: I was watching week to week.
00:33:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, they barely got me hanging on about week four. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
00:33:31
Speaker 2: But to your point, Jay, we do dive into the, I guess this is their take of the death of Superman, where Clark loses powers after overcoming kryptonite poisoning. And then we see John help out, but he also gets sent back to another fucked up timeline.
00:33:46
Speaker 4: But let's talk about the.
00:33:47
Speaker 2: Death of Superman where we get, um, Hank just going on unhinged and going nuts.
00:33:52
Speaker 4: Ken, were you surprised that this nigga was that strong?
00:33:55
Speaker 1: I was, I was, and I was surprised Superman was, I mean, they made it make sense, but yeah, I was surprised.
00:34:00
Speaker 5: Hank was, Hank was crazy, bro.
00:34:03
Speaker 1: I mean, he, he threw, uh, somebody was trying to rob somebody. He threw him up against a pole or something like that, bro. He didn't give a fuck about what was going on. And, um, And he was, he was going toe to toe. As a matter of fact, he was taking some of them motherfuckers out. Like every little super man, super kid or whatever to pop up. They were having a, they were having a day with him. And, um, and yeah, but no, Hank, Hank was serious. And, and this, and I really enjoyed this part of the show.
00:34:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:34:35
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
00:34:36
Speaker 2: I was going to say, Jay, for me, um, I was like, damn, they showing the best part of this season halfway through.
00:34:46
Speaker 4: I was like, hold on, what else is going on? I'm like, bro, this nigga beating they ass and talking cash shit all the time.
00:34:56
Speaker 2: I love that shit where the villain is like, nah, nigga, I'm the villain and I know it. He has something to say and I love how he did that crazy shit. Where Lex was always threatening, like, nigga, I'll split the switch on your goofy ass.
00:35:10
Speaker 4: And he was like, all right, bet. I'm going to see about that. AJ, that shit was nuts.
00:35:16
Speaker 3: I fucked with it, though. I fucked with all of this. That's why this was the high point for me. I was hoping that this was going to open, like, because they teased it with, like, the death of Superman. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, oh, shit. Like, they going to do that? But then they had, like, I don't know, man. I wanted more of this shit here, bro. Like, and it sounds, it sounds very, uh, caveman. Like, well, I don't big strong men fighting against each other. Like, but yes, it's a cartoon.
00:35:47
Speaker 4: It's a cartoon. What are we doing? What are we doing? Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:51
Speaker 2: Like, Hey, don't, don't judge me based off the medium that does this.
00:35:55
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
00:35:56
Speaker 2: Like, I like the cartoon is meant to be, we supposed to hear from fight. We didn't come here to see a, uh, A romantic comedy. I'm going to say it's super people fight.
00:36:05
Speaker 3: Yes, but there are elements where that does work. For instance, Spider-Man has to have the extra shit in order for it to really work. Because he's Spider-Man. Even Batman, he has to have the extra shit in order for it to really work.
00:36:20
Speaker 4: Superman can.
00:36:21
Speaker 3: He don't have to. For me, at least.
00:36:26
Speaker 4: In the cartoon, at least.
00:36:26
Speaker 3: Let me just see this nigga fight powerful shit. Like, let me see him get over fighting powerful shit. And y'all did it here. And it was just like, I wanted him to take over the city. Maybe Superman got to go hide or some shit, and they got to find a way around it. That ain't what they gave me, man. I was just so disappointed. I was like.
00:36:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, they made this one of the most interesting.
00:36:50
Speaker 2: uh mid-season plot points ever as far as like just a justification to take away clark's powers yes like you know what i'm saying like and i and i what can i what i what i really like about this show is like again how they redefine certain things like the way superman is isn't a very typical
superman he's got like these blue energy beams and whatever or whatever kind of like super saiyan aura that he has that kind of gives him a different power boost that i've never seen before So I've always wanted them to dive into that. Like what makes him actually become like God, like, and they touched on it, but then it kind of went in the opposite direction. Did you, was this like, um, was Clark losing his powers and effective plot choice for this, like beginning second half of the season?
00:37:37
Speaker 1: It was, it was weird because the number one complaint about Superman is, is he's too powerful.
00:37:45
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:37:46
Speaker 1: So they always have to find a way to do it. So they, they went very extreme and just like, we just going to take away everything. And I thought it was interesting, like him able to absorb all of the kryptonite or whatever the fuck he did and come out of that and use that. And then, uh, to his advantage, and then it just kind of went away. So when I'm watching, I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. How long is he going to stay without his powers? And how is he going to get it back? So all of these questions are going through my head and I'm like, I'll say also, I'm thinking, Was this something from the comics and did a story arc that's in the comics get spoiled in this show? But of course, I know if they did do it in the comics, it would be written different. So I could probably get a little bit more in.
00:38:32
Speaker 3: Depth with it.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: But it really made it interesting, except when the episode showed up when he didn't have his powers. And I realized that Clark can't. It's boring as fuck. Block kick ain't really worth a damn, bro.
00:38:48
Speaker 3: So, yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker 2: We saw eight episodes of this recently with Jon Stewart. It's like, this nigga, bro, without the ring, this nigga ain't shit. I'm like, I'm tuned out, nigga. And it's even worse, Jay, if I'm added, give me a white man in Kansas on a farm for five plus episodes, I'm out of there by the 20 minute mark. They get like, Like Clark is like, again, this is why I didn't really understand. It's like, they kept trying to make us focus on their Lois and Clark relationship.
00:39:25
Speaker 4: I hated that show back then. And I hated this concept. Now I hate it. me Smallville.
00:39:32
Speaker 2: Lana Lane was who I've always wanted Clark to be. He was going to be with some regular degular. Be with Lana Lane. That's who I grew up with.
00:39:40
Speaker 3: Lois and Clark wasn't bad, but I disagree with y'all. I disagree with y'all because I feel like.
00:39:52
Speaker 4: You disagree with what specifically?
00:39:54
Speaker 3: That, like, this was, it was, it wasn't, like, a couple of things. It wasn't needed to happen or whatever. Like, I mean, yeah, it reminds us of, like, Clark is very much a character who wants to be a human and be accepted, but now he had it and he didn't get it. So I appreciate them throwing that
in our face. of that plot line of like, yo, he wants to be accepted as a human. He's an alien, but he wants to be accepted. And it's like, all right, nigga, like you're basically just a human. Now you have what you, what you really want. Um, but you also feel helpless. So, you know how it really feels to be a human. Like when he's big as threats come, it's also feeling helpless. Like you, you, you have that feeling. So I did, I, that was a nice spin for me that I did appreciate. Y'all saying he's boring. I don't think he's boring.
00:40:49
Speaker 4: I just think he's a white man.
00:40:51
Speaker 3: He's a normal white man.
00:40:54
Speaker 1: It's just the episodes we got from that were pretty bad.
00:41:06
Speaker 4: Because he's talking about the.
00:41:09
Speaker 2: when Jimmy was on the dating app, where they got the animal shit going on.
00:41:13
Speaker 4: Then we also dealing with the, what was it?
00:41:16
Speaker 3: Mr. Pickle.
00:41:17
Speaker 2: The gala, the gala thing. And then what's, what's the, what's the, the, the wizard's name.
00:41:23
Speaker 3: I get it.
00:41:24
Speaker 5: It's Mr.
00:41:25
Speaker 3: Mr. Pickle. Look, I can't say his name.
00:41:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:41:27
Speaker 4: I call him MJG. You know what I'm saying? So we got, we got him, him and.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: Clark in the game, fucking with eight ball and MJG in a multiverse. And it's just kind of like, I, like you said, Jay, we had, hey, just.
00:41:42
Speaker 4: A couple episodes.
00:41:43
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, that's way more important than I know they're going to be together.
00:41:48
Speaker 4: They're always together. That's my thing. It's like Mary J. and MJ.
00:41:52
Speaker 3: You mean Spider-Man?
00:41:54
Speaker 4: I mean, Spider-Man and MJ.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't, like, y'all just kicking the can on some shit that don't matter. She literally saw that they had multiple kids together and multiple timelines.
00:42:06
Speaker 4: So, like, what the fuck are you talking about? If anything, they can strap up. There's a war coming in 20 years. Get in shape.
00:42:14
Speaker 3: I hear your point. I just don't think they handled it well. As a plot line, I don't think it's a bad plot line. I just don't think they handled it well.
00:42:25
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad plot line, but I think it dragged too long. It dragged over too many episodes. Speaking of the MJG episode, Ken, what did you think about the alternative dark versions of themselves that helped Clark Lois and Kara find out their own path forward and shit?
00:42:48
Speaker 1: I absolutely hated this episode. Yeah, I do not like Mr.
00:42:54
Speaker 3: Mr. Blick or whatever his name is.
00:42:56
Speaker 1: As soon as that motherfucker popped up, I was like, all right, man.
00:43:02
Speaker 3: Let me just.
00:43:02
Speaker 1: I was watching something else while it was on or doing something else while it was on because it's just not... Interesting to
me with what he's doing, this trickster, even in the comics, I never liked him. Um, and I think he popped up in some of the damn TV shows too. I think he was in super girl or something like that. I've always hated the episodes where he pops up. So I get what they were trying to do with this one, you know, some character development and all this other stuff with, with Clark and all these other people and stuff like Jimmy. had another, had, was important, something. I was just like, nah, get me out of here. Let's just get this shit over with. I'm so glad that I wasn't watching this week to week and that motherfucker popped up, bro.
00:43:45
Speaker 5: I would have been upset. Yeah.
00:43:48
Speaker 1: They got to do it. He pops up all the time. He's, for whatever reason, I don't know if people like him. I don't know what the story is. I mean, he's a part of it.
00:43:55
Speaker 2: I think people, I think people like, I don't even know if it was a man in this universe. It was, because were they, was it supposed to be a lesbian couple? And that they was getting a divorce, but then they got together.
00:44:05
Speaker 3: I think that was a regular heterosexual couple. It was?
00:44:11
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to take it as.
00:44:14
Speaker 2: I was just like... Because like you said, Ken.
00:44:18
Speaker 3: He's putting on for the Shark Kings, Nick. That's all.
00:44:22
Speaker 4: No, I just... The old Superman animated show, I.
00:44:30
Speaker 2: They wasted so much time with his goofy ass game. And then with this version, whatever version this is, I was just kind of like, I get what you were trying to do and be clever, but like, just get to it. Like I, sometimes I feel like shows nowadays are trying to be too smart with how they do animated shows or cartoons these days. And like, we're not just trying to do a cartoon and trying to do like an elevated cartoon, like the, uh, like the HBO version of a cartoon.
00:44:56
Speaker 4: And it's like, nigga, no, like, let's just get to the shit.
00:45:01
Speaker 2: I could give a fuck about them getting a divorce and trying to figure that out.
00:45:07
Speaker 4: Like, okay. Like, I don't know.
00:45:11
Speaker 2: That was, that's just my, those are my thoughts, but how are we wrapping up this season where, um, we have a massive war against the, what was it?
00:45:19
Speaker 4: The project eradicators, uh, Clark got his trial... Clark got to defend his own fortress of solitude.
00:45:27
Speaker 2: I've never seen that, so we're going to talk about that and then how they reunite at the end.
00:45:32
Speaker 4: But let's start with the.
00:45:35
Speaker 4: Let's start with Clark's trials.
00:45:37
Speaker 2: So, Kay, like you said, Clark was tired of being a human for, like, two hours. And then he was like, I need to get my powers back. I'm going to leave y'all hanging for a minute so I can go get my powers back. What did you think about the trials that the robots put on for.
00:45:55
Speaker 3: Him? Oh,
man.
00:45:56
Speaker 1: To your earlier point, okay, one, I'm wondering if this is part of an arc in the comics.
00:46:05
Speaker 5: Because I didn't really get it.
00:46:07
Speaker 1: And you're trying to show that Um, if I remember correctly, his, his people went to a planet or somebody went to a planet and they fucked up everybody on the planet and he showed kindness to the people on the planet. And that was kind of who Clark really is. Is that kind of what happened? If I remember correctly, it was something like that.
00:46:36
Speaker 4: When you break it down like that, it sounds so stupid.
00:46:47
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just like, it didn't feel like there were any real stakes or anything. Because at the end of the day, we know he's going to get his powers back. So why are we doing all of these different trials? And the robots, who are the robots to sit here and tell me what the fuck you're going to let me have and what I can't have?
00:47:08
Speaker 4: This is my fucking shit. That was the thing that stood out. Jay, I don't know if this is a thought that you had. But I was like, hold on.
00:47:16
Speaker 2: That's like you coming home, kid, and Alexa asking you questions.
00:47:21
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
00:47:21
Speaker 4: Alexa, don't let me in.
00:47:23
Speaker 3: The house, bro. That's a problem.
00:47:26
Speaker 4: Alexa, I'm already talking to you. Like, she pay the bills, kid.
00:47:31
Speaker 2: Like, the electricity I run through Alexa ain't what you paying for. Talking about who the fuck is you coming at.
00:47:38
Speaker 4: This time of night. I'm like, what, nigga?
00:47:41
Speaker 2: I was upset at Clark for not blasting all that shit down.
00:47:48
Speaker 4: Fuck the bullshit.
00:47:52
Speaker 3: I agree with y'all, but I also don't think Brainiac is Brainiac's job. Brainiac is evil. They would expect you to do what the trial was taught. In this version, Krypton isn't the best place. You know what I'm saying? In the past iterations that we've seen of Krypton and other animated shows, Krypton is supposed to be like this. The arrogance leads to their downfall, but it's not like a horrible empire. This is basically a horrible empire.
00:48:26
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
00:48:27
Speaker 3: These niggas are trying to conquer the galaxy or whatever. It makes sense that that's how they would start. They'll go somewhere else and do it. I do understand y'all point of it's lame that the kindness is the thing that Clark ends up doing, and that's how he's going to get his powers.
00:48:47
Speaker 4: But it's fucking Clark Kent, bro.
00:48:49
Speaker 3: Like, I get you. Like, that's the point. I get it, man. I understand.
00:48:54
Speaker 4: But it's Clark Kent.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: That makes sense for his damn character.
00:48:57
Speaker 4: I just don't. I told y'all, I don't know how to feel.
00:49:01
Speaker 3: I'm torn about this shit.
00:49:02
Speaker 4: Because I like Superman in certain iterations.
00:49:04
Speaker 3: And then there's this shit here. It reminds me of what Superman is. I'm not attracted to this shit. I'm not drawn to this shit at all, man. Which is why I cannot always defend Man of Steel.
00:49:14
Speaker 6: Because I don't care what nobody say.
00:49:18
Speaker 2: That was my Superman. That was my Superman. When a nigga had to make a hard decision, he made a fucking decision. You know what I'm saying? I didn't care for her. And I'm glad this version of Clark Kent was... They made Jimmy Olsen black. I'm glad they didn't do Clark black. Because imagine the robots saying, we're going to send your ass back to your ass.
00:49:43
Speaker 4: And it's the nigga in the jungle.
00:49:48
Speaker 2: He got us in loincloths in the jungle thinking we over here scrapping lions, tigers, bears and shit.
00:49:55
Speaker 5: He had Clark Kent do some shit. Yeah, we're going to get a bucket of water ASAP.
00:49:59
Speaker 3: We pulling plugs, nigga. We downloading malware, nigga.
00:50:02
Speaker 5: I ain't fucking with this shit, nigga.
00:50:04
Speaker 4: Got me doing all this type of shit for what? And then first of all, how do robots feel? Let's keep it a bean. How do you feel?
00:50:28
Speaker 2: Like, for you to do all this means that you have never shown me kindness, which means that you can feel being disrespected or feeling like you've been abused.
00:50:36
Speaker 4: Think of you a robot. Fuck out of here.
00:50:39
Speaker 5: And they were shocked. They were really shocked that this shit actually worked.
00:50:43
Speaker 4: They were like, what the fuck is this? Like, what?
00:50:46
Speaker 5: We're like, oh, man, get the fuck out of here.
00:50:48
Speaker 4: I thought they was going to be like, oh, you a bitch-ass nigga. We could have took over this shit a long time ago. Get your ass up out of here, kindness. You can kindly see your ass up out of my shit.
00:51:00
Speaker 2: Clark wishes. Jay, this is what I was saying. The way that I'm hearing how... Because I never thought this was the... You are the person that's introduced this thought to me two years ago, right before the newest Superman movie came out. I'm like, was Clark always... Or was Superman always this kind of a punk-ass nigga? And then I'm thinking about Batman was always in his mug a lot. Like, if you think about it, you read the comics, you watch the TV shows. Batman always had his chest.
00:51:27
Speaker 4: Out when I think like, bro, I know who that nigga is in his real heart. You know what I'm saying?
00:51:32
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
00:51:33
Speaker 2: Them locker rooms where you see the two, the two alphas in the locker room fighting, but then one of them called, he say.
00:51:38
Speaker 4: That thing and we were like, oh yeah, then he got you there, boss. They balance each other.
00:51:43
Speaker 3: That's why they work well together.
00:51:45
Speaker 2: But it shocks me because it makes me look at Superman as like, bro, if you didn't have your powers,
you would not be shit. And I don't mean that in a way that's obvious where it's like, oh, okay, yeah, Superman doesn't have his power. But looking at this season, this episodic arc of this character, it's like, bro, you are so bored with yourself that you went out into.
00:52:06
Speaker 2: You went out and saw... Something to make you get your powers back. That's how shitty your life is.
00:52:13
Speaker 3: Man, y'all just move on, man.
00:52:17
Speaker 4: That's all I got to say.
00:52:18
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
00:52:19
Speaker 4: This is supposed to be a Superman show. I'm trying to say I like it, James.
00:52:24
Speaker 3: I know.
00:52:24
Speaker 5: Y'all complaining more to me.
00:52:26
Speaker 2: It's not a complaint. I don't want people to take away it's a complaint. It's just more of a switcheroo on my observation of Superman.
00:52:34
Speaker 4: I never thought of Superman like this until now.
00:52:37
Speaker 3: Huh. Yeah, he was climbing through vents and shit.
00:52:42
Speaker 4: What'd you say, Ken?
00:52:43
Speaker 1: No, I was just saying he was climbing through vents trying to save the kids. Lower his ass, fail and shit like that.
00:52:51
Speaker 4: He still got shot trying to save the kids.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: He got shot.
00:52:54
Speaker 1: That's when everything changed, Nick.
00:53:01
Speaker 2: He said that's supposed to happen to Jimmy, not me. He the nigga on the show. Get Siri on the phone, bro. Hey, what's crazy is that His son ain't doing no better. His son thought it was all sweet, Jade. I got mom's dad together. We beat the bad guy. I'm going back home. I'm going to see both of them in the pit nights.
00:53:31
Speaker 4: The nigga went back. Got his ass smashed up again.
00:53:37
Speaker 2: The first thing they said, you ain't solve shit, nigga. We've been waiting on your goofy ass. He fucked up twice.
00:53:46
Speaker 4: So this thing is... So they got to go.
00:53:47
Speaker 2: There's a whole nother Jonathan Kent that comes back. He's Jonathan now. The other nigga was John. Shit's so fucked up, you got to call me by my first name.
00:53:56
Speaker 5: Government.
00:53:57
Speaker 4: John came back.
00:54:00
Speaker 2: With his sister to go basically get help from who he only knows, Lois.
00:54:05
Speaker 4: He don't know who his daddy is. That's the real fucked up thing.
00:54:08
Speaker 2: The way he talked to his daddy, Kent, that's another reason why I look at Superman differently.
00:54:12
Speaker 1: But....
00:54:14
Speaker 2: They get back and they're basically trying to, again, solve what happened in the past for the future. Jay, how terrifying was Lex's project Eradicator compared to the previous season's villains?
00:54:29
Speaker 3: Eradicator was tough. Eradicator was tough. And I'm trying to think of the last couple of seasons. The last season was Brainiac. I mean, Brainiac's biggest thing was having Akara. Like, his brain was tough, but having Carl was definitely the other piece. I think Eradicator was
tough, especially the way he whipped they ass. Before he even went to the other timelines. He whipped they ass, Nick.
00:54:58
Speaker 4: Which one?
00:54:58
Speaker 2: The one when he split himself? Or the savage one?
00:55:04
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember now. I remember when he beat they ass. like before, when they first lost, they first, and he like disappeared. He went into like the timeline.
00:55:13
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
00:55:14
Speaker 2: That was, that was when he was, that was when he was a savage and then he disappeared.
00:55:18
Speaker 4: He came back.
00:55:19
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:55:20
Speaker 4: But he was, yeah, that was when he was just monkey knuckling.
00:55:24
Speaker 3: He wasn't even really like, he was just tossing their ass around.
00:55:29
Speaker 4: And when he came back, Shit.
00:55:31
Speaker 3: He beat their ass again. If Superman had came back with the plus one, them niggas definitely would have got their ass beat again.
00:55:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that's when John, he got that big ass sword and he sliced him in half and he thought he did some shit.
00:55:41
Speaker 4: He thought he won, yeah. Yeah, mama, I did it. Yeah, mama.
00:55:46
Speaker 5: Nah, nigga.
00:55:49
Speaker 4: That nigga got fucked up.
00:55:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, I fuck with Eradicator. He was tough. He was tough. It's just the timeline shit, having the extra, having John.
00:55:58
Speaker 4: And the daughter, like, all.
00:56:00
Speaker 3: That was just like, I don't need this. Like, we don't need the family.
00:56:03
Speaker 4: I don't need a super family. I don't need that. Yeah, the family reunion.
00:56:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need that.
00:56:08
Speaker 4: What about you, Ken? What you think about the eradicator?
00:56:11
Speaker 5: Well, they needed that motherfucker because eradicator.
00:56:15
Speaker 3: No fucking joke, bro. It's a motherfucker.
00:56:18
Speaker 5: I don't even.
00:56:21
Speaker 5: What did he want?
00:56:22
Speaker 3: I didn't know what he.
00:56:23
Speaker 4: What did he even want? Like, he just wanted to.
00:56:25
Speaker 2: It was one of them scary things where it's like, bro, do you just want destruction? You just want to take over and kill everybody?
00:56:29
Speaker 4: Is that what you want?
00:56:32
Speaker 5: I don't even know what his motive was. I have no idea.
00:56:34
Speaker 3: I can't even remember.
00:56:36
Speaker 1: I just know that he gave everybody fits. Like, I mean, Superboy, Supergirl, Kara, all of them got their ass smashed. I mean, it was to the point, man, I was like, I don't know what Superman is going to do when he shows up. Because, you know, this motherfucker right here is an issue. And I don't know what they're going to do. Like, I was like, I got to find this in the comics to see how this thing play out. Because it really made it interesting for me. It really saved the season. And it made me understand.
00:57:17
Speaker 1: The previous episodes when he Clark hit was really
shit because they show that you really need Superman because there's shit.
00:57:24
Speaker 5: Out here like that. And it also, you know, that's another thing, man.
00:57:29
Speaker 1: When, Parents have this thing where when you've done some shit, rich people have this issue, and you have kids, and they can't get to the level that you got to. And they become failures in your eyes. Because that's exactly what these kids were. They couldn't do shit. They didn't take the supermanning to the next level. And it was two of them motherfuckers.
00:57:51
Speaker 4: It was. So you can't use the excuse like, oh, I got half his blood, so I'm half as strong. Like, no, you got your sister right there. Basically.
00:57:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's both of y'all.
00:57:59
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:57:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:58:02
Speaker 5: Damn, was they saying that shit?
00:58:05
Speaker 1: If a white man get half a nigga, does that make them less?
00:58:12
Speaker 5: I don't know.
00:58:13
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're saying, but I do agree with you.
00:58:18
Speaker 4: Why did they come back as Jesus to be this? Jay, you see that suit he had on? They basically were saying Superman is Jesus. Yeah, pretty much.
00:58:29
Speaker 2: And he's going to eradicate all darkness from this world.
00:58:32
Speaker 4: Cause I was like, bruh, they made that nigga for as much as they powered him down. They gave him two. They went in a completely opposite direction.
00:58:39
Speaker 2: I was like, damn nigga. Like he, he's just now that strong. No wonder his son don't feel like he ain't shit. He's like, I see my daddy. I know I can't do half that shit up there.
00:58:49
Speaker 1: And he got on my damn nerves, man. He was complaining the whole fucking episode, bro. You should be fucking grateful.
00:58:55
Speaker 5: The only bail I give.
00:58:56
Speaker 2: Him, You know, I don't like to work late on after, you know, I don't like going into a second job working overtime after I do my main job. So this bail bonds what I'm doing is just for this, just for this moment. I think he just understands what an ass whooping feels like. And you know, as somebody, as someone who has had an ass whooping, you are, if there was somebody who could have helped you to avoid.
00:59:22
Speaker 4: That ass whooping, and they weren't.
00:59:26
Speaker 2: There, and then you see him and you're like, damn nigga, like, I could have used.
00:59:32
Speaker 4: You back in the day, motherfucker.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: And when you go back in time to find him, it's at his weakest moment. He don't got his powers yet.
00:59:44
Speaker 4: So he's like, hold on.
00:59:45
Speaker 5: You go back and find your dad and he a damn drunk. He a drunk.
00:59:51
Speaker 2: You thought he was Superman. You just found out he a nigga in a cape. That's, that's what I'm, that's the only bail I'm giving him is like his disappointment. Cause he's like, bro, I've been getting my ass beat. I know what them ass weapons feel like.
01:00:04
Speaker 4: And it's coming. And I thought I was getting reinforcements.
01:00:08
Speaker 3: That's crazy though. You said that nigga came back as Christ. That nigga outfit look like old father from the boys. I was low key looking at it. Like this nigga really got the same shit on, but y'all right, man.
01:00:25
Speaker 4: It, alright.
01:00:29
Speaker 3: Yeah I ain't got no words for this by now I was out of it because I didn't like this whole he hasn't because they already gave him the super charge like power or whatever you know it and now they did this it's just like every season he has to level up he can't just overcome it's like alright bro like I don't really need that in Superman like I don't like When I watch Batman, I watch like they're different characters. But at the same time, it's like I don't need Iron Man. I don't need them to always level up. And that's what they're doing with Superman. It's like he can't just overcome and figure out ways to defeat his enemies. It's like we got to give him a little extra something in order for him to beat the people. And it's like, bro, I'll give him an extra person to beat these people. It's like.
01:01:19
Speaker 4: But it goes to your point, Jay. He's an average white man at the end of the day.
01:01:23
Speaker 2: He ain't smart enough to come up with shit so he gotta just beat a nigga ass like I just gotta know how to beat a nigga ass I'm not intelligent I ain't Batman.
01:01:35
Speaker 1: And I'm not like real familiar with like his his role gallery uh especially like in the modern age or whatever all I know is Superman with all this power one of his greatest nemesis is a smart white man.
01:01:54
Speaker 2: That's always been the case in every era. A smarter white man can't... That's what it is. The white man who actually know how to pick, stop. Think about all your life that you've been going against this nigga who just know how to pick better options, make better.
01:02:14
Speaker 4: Options for you.
01:02:15
Speaker 1: This motherfucker has issues with billionaires, bro. Be like the rest of us. Batman don't fuck with him Batman got all this money.
01:02:28
Speaker 2: Batman don't fuck with him Green Arrow don't.
01:02:32
Speaker 7: Really fuck with him all the rich niggas see me like that man ain't shit if you keep it a B what can he do for his woman He over there sharing a twin bunk bed with a black man making a salary of a shitty-ass journalist.
01:02:53
Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here. He's super broke. Yeah, he's super.
01:03:05
Speaker 1: Bad.
01:03:06
Speaker 4: Let me stop.
01:03:07
Speaker 3: Let me stop.
01:03:07
Speaker 4: I like the show, though. I like the show.
01:03:11
Speaker 3: Yeah you better say that part cause that ain't what it sound like that ain't what it sound like at all y'all slamming the show worse than me bro and I'm the one that.
01:03:20
Speaker 2: Would I'm just saying it's these are things these are honest revelations that I'm covered to right now but um let's wrap this up so we see that he wins he uh he's got his all his powers back his whole family's back they send him back to the future and shit like that um overall thoughts, what was the main takeaways? I'll start with you, Ken, uh, from season three, wrapping up, especially when Lois did the one thing, you know, you damn sure know Lois ain't black. I don't think she's white, but she definitely ain't black. Cause she proposed to this nigga. Ken, that's, that's a, that's a black woman.
01:03:56
Speaker 3: One-on-one.
01:03:56
Speaker 1: No, no.
01:03:58
Speaker 2: Uh, and then we see crypto join a family too. What did you think about how we wrapped up this season?
01:04:03
Speaker 3: Well, she realized her, she has no choice. Her future is made for her.
01:04:06
Speaker 1: So it's, it's pretty much decided, but, um, But yeah, I mean, I thought that was cool with the proposal or whatever, but I think that to Jay's leveling up point, each season has leveled up. So now, you've given him this really, really tough foe that it took all these other versions of Superman, the super family, and this slow-ass damn caveman Superman that they found earlier to.
01:04:35
Speaker 5: Beat this motherfucker. You know, so What are you going to do next season?
01:04:42
Speaker 1: They probably got four or five mats because at some point you're going to run out of material.
01:04:47
Speaker 5: I don't even know what's in the comments that they could do next.
01:04:51
Speaker 4: I think you're right. That was my other question.
01:04:53
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just it's definitely just maybe the next season if that.
01:05:01
Speaker 5: I think that's fine.
01:05:03
Speaker 3: I think the creator was saying he would go up to five seasons. I think that's what I read somewhere. Okay, yeah.
01:05:10
Speaker 5: So, yeah, that sounds about right.
01:05:11
Speaker 1: Because at some point, yeah, it's going to be the same shit over and over again, which is comics, period, and a lot of movies and shows. But, yeah, I think with him, with Superman, I don't know, I just feel like it's tough.
01:05:25
Speaker 3: But people love him. He's a very much adored character.
01:05:31
Speaker 4: What about you, Jay?
01:05:33
Speaker 3: What was the question, the original question? Because I'm looking to see if they said anything. Okay.
01:05:37
Speaker 2: Our overall thoughts on how we ended this season with Lois and Clark finally officially making it official. I think they also even low-key played Jimmy because he came back to Carson like, all right, I'm ready to be with you.
01:05:50
Speaker 4: And she was like, all right, we can be friends. Since you're a goofy-ass one to play. He was salty. He was like, you're the most pussy I gave up just to even ask you this question.
01:05:59
Speaker 5: I get a lot with Giganta ass.
01:06:01
Speaker 4: Giganta, you know how big that motherfucker was? AJ, tell me you was like, hey, bro.
01:06:05
Speaker 3: That bitch.
01:06:10
Speaker 4: When it rain, it pours with that motherfucker.
01:06:13
Speaker 3: It's reverse King Kong in this motherfucker room.
01:06:15
Speaker 5: Talk about a stallion.
01:06:16
Speaker 3: Swimming that shit, bro. Literally.
01:06:17
Speaker 4: As far as the season, I think I'm back where I started.
01:06:41
Speaker 3: Which is weird because y'all kind of made me defend the show more than how y'all was going at it.
01:06:47
Speaker 4: I guess it's just.
01:06:50
Speaker 3: I just don't like the storyline. I didn't like where they took the storyline in the second half of the season. That's where it really took me out of it. Will I be watching season four? Yeah, I'm still going to tap into season four. But similar to y'all, I'll probably just wait to binge it because I was watching it week to week and I can see how that probably took me out of it too because the momentum just wasn't there to watch it week to week. It didn't have me to watch a week too easy. That's probably some of it that took me out of it. But maybe five seasons would be enough for me too. I don't need more than that. I think, I think that's probably what we need to tap out at. And for me, honestly, that's how I like with most shows.
01:07:26
Speaker 2: Anyway, most shows don't need to go past five seasons, like, or like even get to five seasons. Like you can tell a complete story and maybe that's because I've just been From a while ago, Desensitizers is shorter seasons when I was watching a lot of British TV.
01:07:41
Speaker 4: Back before it became just a normal thing where.
01:07:44
Speaker 2: Like, I remember back in the day watching the early seasons of Luther King, that nigga had like three episodes.
01:07:49
Speaker 4: He had three episodes a season. I was like, what the fuck is.
01:07:54
Speaker 3: This?
01:07:55
Speaker 2: And now I'm used to like, if you got longer than, if you got longer than four or five seasons, then we really ain't get to like no interesting shit to where I'm like, I can't wait for the next one.
01:08:05
Speaker 4: It's like, all right, let's get the, let's wrap this shit up. Let's get the fuck up out of here. And the next year we're going to review, I'm going to have a similar thought.
01:08:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe.
01:08:12
Speaker 4: It depends.
01:08:13
Speaker 3: Maybe.
01:08:13
Speaker 2: The only issue that I see with the show, and I'll give my thoughts, I like this season.
01:08:17
Speaker 4: I think I'm willing to.
01:08:20
Speaker 2: I'm into this comic shit, so they can put out a lot. Unless it's some shit like Teen Titans Go, I'm probably going to watch any season they put out. But I will say I can be objective about it and be like, all right, anybody who actually gives a fuck about their time not being wasted, stop after season da-da-da-dis.
01:08:37
Speaker 4: But I also feel like Again, I'm.
01:08:41
Speaker 2: Curious to see, because they keep on changing up how we look at these characters, even looking at Deathstroke, like Slade Wilson, like.
01:08:47
Speaker 4: He's not what we used to come to think of.
01:08:49
Speaker 2: And I kind of want to see him get busy at least one time with like fighting somebody because they just, they always teasing it, but it's like, they don't never let them do nothing.
01:08:58
Speaker 4: And then of course, when you bring Amanda Waller in, I'm like.
01:09:00
Speaker 2: All right, I want to see this, especially how they left the cliffhanger where Lex was like, nigga, the shit that I saw. Nigga, we all need to come together and be all.
01:09:09
Speaker 4: Merrily and shit. That was I'm excited about that.
01:09:12
Speaker 2: And Amanda Waller, no matter what's going on, she's like, if I'm not running this shit, this shit ain't happening. And I always fuck with that attitude, Ken. I don't know what it is. I just always fuck with that attitude. So I'm interested in seeing more, but I do think that if it doesn't pick up with the writing of storylines, this is.
01:09:28
Speaker 3: A short-lived series. We shall see, man. We shall see. I don't see anything that says it's been renewed, I think. And they're still waiting.
01:09:40
Speaker 2: Well, I think that makes sense, because I think all of that shit, dealing with the W... Until this merger and how this other shit... I think they were like, we ain't saying nothing about anything.
01:09:51
Speaker 5: But, yeah.
01:09:54
Speaker 4: Ken, any other thoughts?
01:09:55
Speaker 3: Are you good?
01:09:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm good.
01:09:58
Speaker 1: All right.
01:09:59
Speaker 2: Well, those are our thoughts on the third season of My Adventures with Superman. Please let us know what you guys think. FPS Podcast is a Reddit thread. That's also our handle for IG and Twitter. And we'll catch you on the next season, if there is one.
01:10:10
Speaker 3: We out.
01:10:11
Speaker 4: Peace.
01:10:12
Speaker 3: Peace.