บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Crystal Lake

want a whole bunch of seasons. So we're going to remake the first. Why? Why? Just leave that shit the way it is. And when you're talking about the shot for shot, that was episode four. But it doesn't make sense because... When Barry gets up in the movie, he says, oh, we weren't doing anything. That makes sense if you're talking to an adult. Why would you say that to a child? So it just didn't make sense. So they shouldn't have remade it. They should have just made this a prequel and it would have been cool. Maybe. 00:06:20 Speaker 2: I agree, but I did not like the fact that they took away her kills and gave them to other people. I didn't like that. 00:06:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that, but I guess they replaced her kills with other ones. 00:06:34 Speaker 2: True, but I feel like they only did that because in the original, you can't see who's doing it. 00:06:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:40 Speaker 2: So they were like, well, it don't have to be her. It can be this little girl. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:06:44 Speaker 2: Who the fuck is that little girl? Did that girl come to play along? That shit is almost like the Psycho Power Street Fighter shit. Like, what the fuck? 00:06:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, they shouldn't have done that. They really shouldn't have done that. This could have been a cool show. And I don't hate it. 00:07:01 Speaker 4: It was cool. 00:07:03 Speaker 1: But it could have been a lot better. And plus, I really, really like the woman. Cardellini? Yeah. I liked her. She is fucking awesome. Facial acting, just everything she does is great. But yeah, we're going to go ahead and we're going to try to cover all eight episodes, y'all. So I didn't make a ton of notes. We're going to try to get through this. Episode one is called Camp Crystal. And it starts off with Pam Voorhees holding onto a sink and picking teeth out of her hand. And we then flashback to nine months earlier where we meet her waterhead-ass son, Jason. Which I texted you about. Bro, that shit had me dying. I had to confirm, King. I was like, wait, what is happening right now? Before it even started. He just texted me and was like, what's up with Jason's head? And the reason it was so funny because my girl kept getting mad because I kept clowning his head. I'm like, bro, what is the... He's ahead of the class. He's ahead of the game. Every time they say we got to head out, I'm looking at her. She's like, stop. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: I legit was like confused because I was like, don't the nigga wear a mask? And his face be covered up by the mask. It can't be that goddamn bitch. 00:08:10 Speaker 1: They do show his head in. I think it's the third one. Yeah, I think it might be the third. No, the third one is the one that's not actually him. Because remember, the third one is that other guy whose son, he's like that paramedic or whatever. I think they show his face in like five or six. And he does have those lumps, but this is exaggerated. His head's not that big. But his head does look a little crazy. But yeah, Jason's attending Camp Crystal Lake where he's bullied by the other kids. And while counselors, Claudette and Barry are fucking, Jason tries to get a ball for his friend Gracie and he drowns. So was this a good start for y'all? 00:08:50 Speaker 3: I mean, it's clear as day with a head that size. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: You're going to drown when you go out there in the deep water. 00:08:56 Speaker 4: You're going to sink, bro. 00:08:58 Speaker 1: It was a wrap. 00:08:59 Speaker 4: That's why I was trying to keep him out there from going out there, bro. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: What kind of anchor on this thing? 00:09:06 Speaker 2: You got to get one of the. 00:09:07 Speaker 4: Swimmers and the babies in the pool. He need about six of them. 00:09:11 Speaker 1: So, no, yeah. 00:09:12 Speaker 3: But, you know, I thought it was a good start. I thought it was a good start. I mean, we already know what happened. We already know it's their motive. They were picking on him, you know, and clowning him. Back then, that's, I mean, even now, but that's what they'll do. So, and it kind of explained how and why he ended up going out there unsupervised. They in there doing this and doing that. So, it aligned up with the movie, you know. 00:09:37 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:09:38 Speaker 3: Never knew why he ended up in there, but using this as to explain why kind of made sense. 00:09:45 Speaker 1: Y'all agree with that? It wasn't bad to me. 00:09:48 Speaker 5: Again, I was still having to get my bearings instead of them placing Jason in this friendly character. 00:09:54 Speaker 1: He's so nice to the kids. 00:09:56 Speaker 5: And like I he had dreams and aspirations like you just don't look at Jason that way from watching all the movies so I was intrigued I'm interested in the beginning then you have to drown of course like the movie so yeah I'm gonna avoid it first. 00:10:10 Speaker 1: You're already tapped out. 00:10:13 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, because I was like, why the fuck she taking her kid, though? Like, they just go, like, fuck with him. Like, I don't know. As a parent, I would just be like, no. I mean, maybe we can find you a friend group to hang with, but I'm not doing that shit. And then, like, for him to be on the fucking water, I'm like, girl, to your point, this nigga can't swim? And he ain't going to ever be able to swim. Why is he out there? 00:10:36 Speaker 1: He got a big ass head and no neck. That's a recipe for disaster. 00:10:40 Speaker 2: Never seen Benzino swim. So I was like, that shit just don't make sense. Like, I was just like, how the fuck, why? Okay, all right. And then I had to remember that it's supposed to be, what, the 70s? 00:10:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:10:56 Speaker 2: So, like, I'm like, okay, well, maybe. 00:10:59 Speaker 1: Wait, this happened in the 70s? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the 70s. 00:11:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, because her whole backstory is in the 50s. 00:11:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. So

I thought. Oh, I guess this would be close to the 60s then. Yeah, this should be. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: I guess I said 70s because of the hippies. I said 70s because of the hippies. 00:11:15 Speaker 1: Well, actually, hippies were 60s. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:11:17 Speaker 1: Because my parents... Yeah, hippies were 60s. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: Because the start of Friday the 13th was like 58? 00:11:24 Speaker 1: 58? 1958? Before they went to the 70s. I think. I don't know. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was set in 59 or something like that. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: I mean, I can look it up, but Well, either way, nine months later, we meet Lee Brooks, who, he has jungle fever. He has jungle fever. What? All right. She's a pretty white lady for an old white lady. I mean, yeah. She all right. 00:11:52 Speaker 2: But still, like, you the only nigga. 00:11:55 Speaker 1: I know. But there wasn't no sisters in that town. 00:11:57 Speaker 4: Exactly. 00:11:58 Speaker 1: No, there wasn't. 00:11:58 Speaker 2: Go get your rocks off somewhere else, man. 00:12:00 Speaker 1: The only nigga. He was like, boy, I'm going to take what I can get. Let me get the crazy white lady. Exactly. Let that bitch go crazy. 00:12:06 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? 00:12:07 Speaker 1: But that's exactly why, Mike. 00:12:09 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:12:09 Speaker 1: He heard the story. 00:12:10 Speaker 4: She crazy. He was like, oh, I know that shit. He said, I bet that shit good, bro. 00:12:14 Speaker 1: Hidden, bro. I know that shit, boy. That's some bull ass shit, man. Big Lee. 00:12:19 Speaker 4: Big Lee was like, hey. 00:12:20 Speaker 1: Bro, I'm trying to find out. Yeah. That's some bull shit. My man said, I ain't had none in a minute. It was either her or Rita ass. And the whole town done ran through Rita. He was like, look, I'm trying to get Pam. 00:12:33 Speaker 2: He wasn't that far from the city, man. 00:12:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was 1958 at Camp Crystal Lake. That's when Barry and Claudette snuck away from it. 00:12:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it don't look like it, though. It don't look like 50s. 00:12:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that in the movie opened in 1958 when Barry and Claudette were killed. 00:12:53 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, like I said, Bing Lee... Meets Pam. He takes her to Founders Day where she has a nervous breakdown in front of everybody. But back at her house, she meets two men who claim to be cops. She gets hip to them not being real cops. And while trying to escape, she's attacked and ends up killing both of them. One with a pair of scissors and one with a machete. Were these good kills for y'all? Yeah, I think all the kills were good. 00:13:19 Speaker 2: It was definitely good. 00:13:22 Speaker 5: Was that something that we're supposed to understand? I know they hadn't said it yet, but just from my understanding of her kills, did they give her something to make her crazy or was she just unhinged? 00:13:31 Speaker 1: We weren't supposed to know that yet, but

they did say later on. It was another huge gripe I had with this show. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from the beginning when she's pulling out the teeth till now, you know, it made sense. 00:13:47 Speaker 1: I like that. 00:13:49 Speaker 3: She had to kind of struggle for they kind of made it make sense you know without she she pulled it off and just even the bag and the blood filling up in the bag i thought that was dope um so because and her just kind of picking up on the vibe so the people like where are you guys from again and you can kind of tell from the dial it was like man you know he was talking it was the shoes that tipped him off he's like you know the hundred dollar shoes or something like that. 00:14:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Lee had said that he can't afford nice shoes. He got a $ 20 pair and was like, this is a lot of money for me. Yeah, yeah. Bro, don't do this. Telling this white lady you poor. I didn't like that line. That line was only there for this scene. Right, right. You know, but Spike, you know, that was bad. I didn't like it. 00:14:35 Speaker 2: Dorf could have said it. 00:14:36 Speaker 1: Dorf could have told her that. Yeah. Then he ruined his new shoes by jumping in the water to get her crazy ass. 00:14:41 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:14:42 Speaker 1: But, yeah, but no, no, it was cool. It was cool. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: I liked it because I think she was in the closet and she just reached and grabbed the fucking blade. 00:14:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, chopped dude's face. Oh, man. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was this also body horror crazy. 00:14:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was definitely body horror. Yeah. God, man. 00:15:01 Speaker 2: I didn't, I mean, I thought the kills were dope. I guess for me, I was like, shit, they needed us. Like, I guess I'm looking for her to be like killing innocents and like, no, they trying to kill her. So this was, I was like, yeah, if it was me, I'd kill their ass too. So I was, I understood this part. I was like, okay. So when she started killing innocent people. 00:15:21 Speaker 5: They positioned it strangely to like everybody that she beefed with needed to die. They like almost was trying to convince us that she's like a good character. 00:15:30 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: I think I agree except for one person. I agree except for one person. 00:15:39 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I like these kills a lot, too. I thought they were really well done. The whole, like Kim was talking about, the whole bag with the blood filling up and it spilling out. I thought all of that was really, really, really good. But we then see her call someone named Nora to tell her that they found her. And after this, one of the men gets up and fights back, which leads to the scene we just talked about where the blood comes out and she punches him. But then she takes the bodies out to a bear cave. 00:16:06 Speaker 4: So. 00:16:07 Speaker 1: The bear will eat the corpses. And that takes us into episode two, which is just called part two. And this starts off with a really cool reference to one of the other Friday the 13th movies. Did y'all catch the reference? No. Well, I wasn't even asking you. It's the end of the first movie. So remember the end of the first movie after, I think the girl's name was Alice, after she gets away, she's in the boat. Yeah. And then Jason comes up and grabs her by the neck. 00:16:36 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay. 00:16:37 Speaker 1: The same thing happens at the start of this episode, but it's with Pam. Right. Which I was like, that's weird. 00:16:43 Speaker 2: She was hallucinating, Nora. 00:16:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So Nora calls Pam and tells her that the company she is running from hired subcontractors to find her. We also see her out on the town with Lee, but talking to the town... The town skank, Rita. She decides to go out of town with her to a self-help seminar where she's goaded into revealing her past as a singer. But after a few disturbing interactions with, I can't remember the guy's name, but the self-help guy, she determines he needs to die. But before she can kill him, some guy hits him in the face with a baseball bat. So did y'all like this? 00:17:21 Speaker 2: It was weird. It was so weird for no reason. 00:17:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was strange. Yeah. 00:17:27 Speaker 5: I was totally, I get what they were trying to do in the sense of she went there and something opened up in her because the black guy mentioned it, but they didn't do it well at all. I thought I was going to be the only one who lost it. I'm like, bro, what is happening right now? 00:17:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at this point, I'm trying, like, are you trying to, slowly show like a descent into this sort of killer, this madness, or not. 00:17:54 Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing? Because she hasn't killed anybody yet. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: So this was supposed to be the first kill, but you're about to kill people in front of a whole bunch. You're about to hit them in front of a whole bunch. It doesn't make sense. 00:18:02 Speaker 1: That's the part I didn't like. Yeah. 00:18:04 Speaker 3: So you kind of bailed her out with this other guy coming in and doing it. 00:18:08 Speaker 1: But that guy wasn't creepy. He was weird. Yeah, he was a piece of shit. 00:18:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. 00:18:12 Speaker 1: It was fine for him to die, but I didn't like what you just said. Like, he... She was going to kill him in front of everybody. It didn't really make any sense. Yeah. But, yeah. 00:18:22 Speaker 2: And then he still died in front of everybody. 00:18:24 Speaker 1: I don't know if he died. 00:18:26 Speaker 2: Oh, well, he got the shit. 00:18:28 Speaker 1: He may as well be dead. Yeah. He got the shit. No, he was fucked up. Yeah. 00:18:32 Speaker 3: That dude unloaded on him. Yeah, I didn't think you were going to come back. Yeah, he was wilding, too, in that room. 00:18:40 Speaker 2: But she also, why she bite him? She didn't bite

Lee. Why the fuck she bite him? 00:18:45 Speaker 1: We were just talking about biting. Damn. We were. I'll be damned. 00:18:49 Speaker 4: I told you. 00:18:50 Speaker 1: They bite motherfuckers, bro. 00:18:52 Speaker 4: Shit. 00:18:52 Speaker 1: You got to do what you got to do. Not that I didn't believe her. 00:18:55 Speaker 4: You got to do what you got to do. 00:18:56 Speaker 1: I'm always going to believe black women. 00:18:57 Speaker 4: You got to do what you got to do. 00:19:00 Speaker 3: But damn, it's just now making that connection. 00:19:02 Speaker 4: It's like, whoa, that's funny. Yeah, that's crazy. 00:19:05 Speaker 2: I think, but it was different, though. They were intimate. I don't know. Were they trying to show her animalistic side? Because if they did, it wasn't enough. 00:19:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, white women do that. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: She's been nibbling. 00:19:16 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:19:17 Speaker 4: See? 00:19:18 Speaker 1: Moving on. I don't know. I've been bit before. See? 00:19:23 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: But not my white woman. You a lie. 00:19:26 Speaker 4: No. 00:19:27 Speaker 1: You a lie. 00:19:28 Speaker 2: You ain't talking about nibbling, though. You ain't talking about, ow, bitch, you bit me. 00:19:31 Speaker 1: That's what happened. 00:19:34 Speaker 2: He was like, oh, shit, bitch. Like, you talking about nibbling. That was, she was trying to eat him. 00:19:41 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, you like it rough, huh? 00:19:43 Speaker 3: She took and played that game. Yeah. 00:19:48 Speaker 1: Well, some other things happened during this episode. Two men, they found a pelvis from one of the men that Pam murdered. And while investigating those pelvises, Lee finds a piece of scissors. And also Claudette embarrasses Gracie as she tries to fit in. You know, she walked up in her little, her little outfit. And Claudette was like, bro, you need to go home. Um, She did. She didn't even go around. Yeah, she was doing way too much, man. Way too fast, little girl. Yeah, this is ridiculous. 00:20:14 Speaker 2: There was a better way to handle that, though. 00:20:16 Speaker 1: There definitely was. 00:20:17 Speaker 5: She tried when she got up and kind of away from her friends and was telling them, like, you too young to be here. 00:20:22 Speaker 1: He fucking with you. Like, go home. But it was a better way. You right. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: She, I mean, I don't know. To me, it just felt like they were trying to make Claudette a bitch, which she was. 00:20:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:20:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:20:35 Speaker 2: But I don't know. It was too much of her, the little girl. Like, who the fuck is this? 00:20:40 Speaker 1: We will definitely get to that because that's one of my problems as well. If you would love to have more content from Frames Per Second, become a patron where you can contribute to what we review and discuss. 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But Pam and Lee are getting closer, but Pam pulls away. We also have Lee and his officer, Dorf. They find an abandoned car with blood in the trunk, which was rented by some guy named Carl Egan, who he thinks is one of the guys that was murdered. Unless y'all have anything to say about that, we will move on to the next point. I thought so, too. I'm like, wait. I still don't really understand how they linked them together. Yeah. You found the car. There was a little bit of blood in it. You're like, oh, that must be from the pelvis we found. Do a bunch of research. I was a little bit thrown off by this. 00:22:26 Speaker 2: And they couldn't test the blood to see if whose blood it was. 00:22:29 Speaker 3: But it's such a small town that it probably doesn't take much to connect it. 00:22:33 Speaker 1: But wasn't it found outside of town or something? 00:22:35 Speaker 2: The car was found on the other side of town. 00:22:37 Speaker 1: Okay, so it was still within the town. So yeah, I guess that makes sense. 00:22:40 Speaker 2: It's just the. 00:22:41 Speaker 1: I'll shoot her some bail. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't a huge deal. There's... much more egregious shit that happens later. So Gracie beats Claudette's ass in the bathroom because Claudette started it though, but she beat her ass and it gets suspended. Pam goes to her house and determines that she's being abused by her mom. 00:23:00 Speaker 4: I love that. 00:23:02 Speaker 2: Determines. 00:23:03 Speaker 1: I did too. I thought that was a really nice touch. That was good writing. She goes to her mom's restaurant to confront her and she ends up killing her with a meat tenderizer and burns the restaurant down. What did y'all think of that? That was the number one kill. Yeah, that shit was tight. That shit was fucking great. That shit was, she knocked her whole jaw. 00:23:23 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 00:23:25 Speaker 4: Oh, shit. 00:23:26 Speaker 2: And I'm like, a tenderizer? 00:23:28 Speaker 1: Right. How hard you hit her? Right. God, those hits are pretty hard, aren't they? 00:23:32 Speaker 2: I mean, they are, but. 00:23:33 Speaker 1:

The strength that you got to have to knock somebody's face off. It ain't even no sharp edges, really, on a tenderizer. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: No, it's kind of dull. 00:23:39 Speaker 1: It's like a mallet. I thought there was a little point. Yeah, a little point. But that ain't going to rip your face off. 00:23:44 Speaker 4: Sharp, sharp. 00:23:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 00:23:46 Speaker 1: This was her first kill, right? No, she killed the guy. Two dudes came to the house. Yeah. 00:23:51 Speaker 2: I would say it's her first uncalled. 00:23:54 Speaker 1: Solicited. Yeah, like that lady really was just talking bad to her. She couldn't take it. She shoved her. Get out of my self-defense a little bit. 00:24:02 Speaker 2: She shoved her, but she had already made up in her. 00:24:04 Speaker 1: Mind that she was going to kill that lady. Yeah. I mean, you know, she... She thought she was doing the right thing. She did slap Gracie. Poor Gracie. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: Gracie would fucking claw that ass up. So I feel like Gracie and her mama kind of get into it. 00:24:21 Speaker 1: Gracie knew how to fight. Yeah, she did. Gracie definitely knew how to fight. She slammed her head into the wall. She wasn't fucking with Claudette. 00:24:27 Speaker 2: Because Gracie was supposed to be the same age as Jason, right? 00:24:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:24:30 Speaker 1: So like 11, 12 maybe. And they 17, 18. 00:24:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I know. I know. 00:24:34 Speaker 1: She fucked her up. Yeah, but you know, she just wanted a reason to kill her. Yeah. 00:24:39 Speaker 3: And, you know, working where she working, like, I don't know if they were trying to say that, you know, her working all these jobs made her. 00:24:48 Speaker 1: The way she was towards her daughter. 00:24:50 Speaker 3: You know, but either way I go, you know, I guess my thing when I saw it was like, how the hell are you going to play this off? 00:24:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, but burn it down, I guess, like she did. Yeah. And then it was just a grease fire? Because when you do the optops, you're going to see the face. Her face is going to be gone, right. So, man, yeah. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: And that was where I was just like, they can't have done an autopsy. Like, they had to, it had to send her, like, no body. 00:25:11 Speaker 1: No bone, no food. 00:25:13 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 00:25:13 Speaker 1: But you know how hot it got to get for that shit to blow up? But you got to think about it. So, you're in a restaurant. So, there's all that grease. So, she's probably just playing it off like, if there's all this grease, the place is going to be, it's probably going to blow up or something. I didn't have too much of a problem with this part. I did have the same question y'all have about, well, When they find her, her jaw's going to be broken off. But it's also a small-ass town that probably doesn't do autopsies. So I gave them that kind of grace. If it's a small town, a small country town, they probably don't do autopsies. Yeah, they thought it was just a fire. They're probably like, well, it's a fire. 00:25:49 Speaker 2: And then with that grease, that grease probably melted the shit out of her face. So any jaw pieces or whatever, you probably wouldn't have found it. 00:25:56 Speaker 1: But if you're doing all this to get Gracie, Was she doing this to get Grace? No, I think she just did it. I don't think she walked in there wanting to kill her. I think she walked in there wanting to get her to stop hitting Gracie. But I think it didn't take much for her to be like, okay, I'm going to kill you then. Because she grabbed the mallet when there was not really a reason. The lady had turned around and was walking away and Pam was like, fuck that. 00:26:20 Speaker 2: Well, she had already pushed her though. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: She did, but she walked away after that. And then Pam was like, no, you're not going to just walk away from me. Yeah, you pushed me. You pushed me, motherfucker. I need to get my lick back. 00:26:30 Speaker 2: You'll get to decide how I get your ass back. 00:26:32 Speaker 1: Right. 00:26:32 Speaker 2: Meet Tenderize the Hulk. 00:26:34 Speaker 1: Right in the jaw. I was like, whoa, okay. It did fill in the fryer. Yes, it was crazy. The fact that she tried to get up and fight back. It filled in the fryer. Oh, my God. That was insane. But, yeah. And I like how we then find out that Gracie's actually burning herself. I thought that was actually pretty good writing. But we will get more into Gracie in a bit. But something also happened. The town rednecks go off on their own to go hunt the bear. Man-eating bears. I thought that shit was funny. I was like, oh, my God. I was waiting for the N-word. Oh, my God. Me too. I'm actually just disappointed that they didn't do it. They waited. I don't know why they didn't. I don't either. We only got close one time later on, but yeah. I missed the getting close. Which one was it? Yeah, I did too. 00:27:16 Speaker 2: That was the last few episodes with Dorf's dad. 00:27:19 Speaker 1: The racist guy came out. Oh, the oxygen. 00:27:22 Speaker 3: But I mean, well, even in this scene, he was like, you got a job that my son should have. 00:27:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. So. 00:27:30 Speaker 2: That he feels like he's supposed to have. 00:27:33 Speaker 3: And they were like, well, I guess that settles that. And then they just started laughing. I was like, ain't no way they're going to listen to. 00:27:38 Speaker 1: This Negro guy. 00:27:40 Speaker 2: But this motherfucker getting shot by friendly fire is perfect. 00:27:43 Speaker 1: Like. He should have died. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:27:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:27:47 Speaker 2: I didn't see a way for him to live. I was like, he dead. 00:27:50 Speaker 1: Should have been. Yeah, he got shot in the neck, bro. That's. Like. Yeah. Yeah. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: That's how they did that pig in Carrie. 00:27:58 Speaker 4: So, I. 00:27:59 Speaker 2: He got to die. 00:28:00 Speaker

1: I thought he was going to die, too. But I guess they left him alive so he could speak to the fact that there's a motherfucker in the woods. So, I was like, whatever. 00:28:08 Speaker 3: But. 00:28:09 Speaker 1: No, go ahead. Go ahead. 00:28:10 Speaker 2: I just felt like that was flimsy as hell. Cause like, even when he did see what he saw, the sun was kind of blocking what he saw. So like, it could have been anybody standing over him. And for him to be like, nah, I saw some shit in the woods. You just got shot by a bunch of niggas you went out there with. 00:28:28 Speaker 1: You could be delirious. It could be anything. Yeah. They shouldn't have shot him in the neck. Maybe they should have shot him somewhere else. It would have been more believable that he didn't die. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: Who was that that shot somebody in the neck? Was that Dick Cheney? 00:28:39 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney. Yep. And that dude lived, I think. Didn't the dude live? I thought he did shoot him in the neck. He killed dude. Oh, he killed him? 00:28:52 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 00:28:53 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney a G, bro. I thought it was a wrap for him. Nothing happens. Well, episode four is actually labeled A New Beginning, which is also in Friday the 13th. Sure is. I don't know why they kept doing this. So Pam, my girl Pam, this is how he knew. Lee knew. Lee was like, man, there's something about this, mom. There's something about this girl. She came to the house and was like, look, I just killed a motherfucker. I need some dick. Seems like you're ready. She climbed up on it, bro. That's right. But we also, we meet Willow, who's a hippie that's looking for her friends. She gets caught in one of the town weirdo, this is the Ralph guy, he has these traps out in his property. caught in one of the the traps and he she's murdered and after dorf and lee investigate the area where they find that bear cave but dorf comes back and he searches ralph's property and he finds the body of willow so was any of this interesting to y'all who killed her uh jason jason But then he put him in... And strung her up and skinned her? 00:30:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:30:01 Speaker 2: He thought she was a kill, like an animal kill. 00:30:04 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess they're trying to imply that he's mimicking... Ralph. Ralph. Ah, okay. I was so confused. 00:30:11 Speaker 2: Now, I do have a question. When he drowned, did he lose... enough oxygen to the point where he's slow now? Because he wasn't slow in the beginning. Bro was cognitive. He was talking. He, like, told his mom. He had feelings and shit. And then when that whole situation, like, I'm guessing maybe he lost enough oxygen to, like. 00:30:31 Speaker 4: Well, I think. 00:30:33 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Because he damn like brain dead now. At first he was talking. 00:30:38 Speaker 3: Or he just didn't really get a chance to grow anymore emotionally. 00:30:43 Speaker 1: He stopped talking and everything, though. 00:30:45 Speaker 2: And why would he be mimicking like hunting and gathering shit when he know his mom made cookies and shit for him? Like he was at home eating dinner with her. 00:30:57 Speaker 1: Well, he can't get food. No, no, no. 00:31:00 Speaker 2: I understand that part, but I'm just saying like what makes it, like what took him to that animalistic place? Is it to lose that oxygen when drowning? 00:31:09 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with that. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, that works. I didn't think about it too hard, but, yeah, you're right. That is weird. There's a definite cognitive decline. 00:31:19 Speaker 3: You know, I think him going into the cave, because, you know, I mean, in terms of the show, this is like the sort of dummy mission with these two bodies that they're using to kind of eventually connect to Pam. So they had to have it kind of in there. But, bro, if I'm the goddamn sheriff, I'm not doing rock, paper, scissors. No, you're going your ass in there, white boy. 00:31:43 Speaker 1: You're taking your fucking ass in that fucking cave, bro. 00:31:45 Speaker 4: Fuck all that shit. 00:31:46 Speaker 2: I'm the fucking chief. 00:31:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:31:49 Speaker 2: White nigga, I say go in there. 00:31:50 Speaker 3: Right, you take your ass in there. So that's number one. The other part with... Oh, no, no. I'm thinking about the movie. Yeah, because she never made it to the top. She just got killed. 00:32:04 Speaker 1: I think... Yeah, okay. What was the other part that happened in here? In 4, the new beginning? Well, there's not... Yeah, yeah. There's another part after that, but I was just covering the whole traps and the... Yeah, I mean, all that was kind of cool. 00:32:18 Speaker 3: I mean, you're just trying to build up, build up, and I guess letting us know that Jace is out there. 00:32:23 Speaker 1: You know, so... Which... I don't know. It's still weird because he wasn't in the first one. No, he wasn't. 00:32:33 Speaker 2: Not like that. 00:32:34 Speaker 1: Well, technically, we don't know for a fact if he did some of the kills. This is true because apparently he snatched Oh, girl under the water. At the end of the movie. I don't know. Anyway. Yeah, but we're also not sure if that actually happened either. Because remember, she wakes up in the second movie. Because he kills her at the beginning of the second film. Oh, I didn't know that. Or somebody kills her. Okay. At the beginning of the second film. But yeah, this is just filler. 00:32:59 Speaker 2: Did Pamela fuck Lee because she was trying to establish an alibi? 00:33:03 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:33:04 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't take it that way. That's what I did. 00:33:05 Speaker 3: I think she knew she killed him, so she needed to distract him because she started smiling when the fire people went by. 00:33:12 Speaker 1: So she just wanted to distract him. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: That's the best way. 00:33:16 Speaker 1: Yep. Every damn time. 00:33:18 Speaker 2: If it come down to it, where was

you at? 00:33:19 Speaker 1: I was with the fucking police chief. Where were you? Yeah. I just thought she got turned on or something. I didn't even think about that, dude. 00:33:28 Speaker 2: I think it was some of that, too. But, like, she could have fucked anybody and she decided Lee. And, I mean, he's going to be investigating this bitch, so. 00:33:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:33:36 Speaker 3: And it would definitely impact the investigation because he wouldn't want to believe in what we saw. 00:33:42 Speaker 1: Right. 00:33:43 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 00:33:44 Speaker 1: So that was diabolical. 00:33:45 Speaker 3: I thought that was slick because I was like, how the hell are you going to get away with this? 00:33:47 Speaker 1: So when she went over there, I was like, oh, this motherfucker right here. 00:33:50 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:33:51 Speaker 1: And I also just remember that they say later on that, Jason grows when he has a really bad emotional trauma. Right. So that could also be why he's acting like that. Because he, like you said, he didn't have a time to catch up. Like his brain didn't catch up with his body. 00:34:08 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:34:09 Speaker 1: But I still think it might also be that he was drowning. But this is the second time he drowned. Oh yeah, shit. Which we'll also get to. But yeah. So I'm assuming that he was behaving like that because of the rapid growth that he had. 00:34:25 Speaker 2: That's why he was so fucking big. 00:34:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:34:27 Speaker 2: Because it had only been nine months. 00:34:28 Speaker 1: Right. Got it. But he grew into a fucking whole ass adult. 00:34:31 Speaker 4: Right. 00:34:31 Speaker 1: He was big as fuck. Yeah. I was wondering what happened. I was lost. I was like nine months and nine years. Yeah. They say that in episode seven. Yeah. They say in episode seven. But it's real quick. I had to watch it twice to even get what they were talking about. 00:34:42 Speaker 2: I couldn't focus on the actor because he was from Gen V. And, like, it was damn near the same, like, character. 00:34:49 Speaker 1: What did he play in Gen V? 00:34:50 Speaker 2: He was the principal when. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: Brown was puppeting. Are you talking about that guy, Elias? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the husband. Oh, yeah. He did a terrible job. He did. You talking about her husband? When they went into flashback? 00:35:01 Speaker 2: No, no, Gen V, I'm talking about he was the principal. 00:35:03 Speaker 1: Of the college. Yeah, that guy played Pam's husband. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yep. So Pam gets her job back as a camp cook, and she finds the hippies working there run by Harmony. Later, Pam also discovers the hippies getting Gracie drunk. They then have a seance where Harmony channels Grace's mom and warns Grace to stay away from Pam. And then we have Lee asking his sister to go find out who Egan is. And she traces him to a company called Bellflower Chemical. I like your sister in this. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, yeah. I didn't need the comic relief, though. I didn't need the sister girl relief. It was just kind of like, all right, man, this feels racist. Feels a little racist, you know? 00:35:50 Speaker 2: How would black people act if they were surrounded. 00:35:53 Speaker 1: By white people? White people in this small town and the killer was on the loose. It just seemed a little too much. But yeah, that takes us into episode five, which is called A New Blood. And in this episode, Dorf arrests Ralph. And then Lee goes to inform the hippies that their friend Willow has been murdered. Pam tries to make up with Lee by offering him some pie. But Lee was a little upset. Are y'all even giving a shit about this relationship at this point? 00:36:20 Speaker 4: No. 00:36:20 Speaker 1: No. No. 00:36:22 Speaker 2: But I do think that it was kind of funny how Dorf went to go find nobody. Like what made him the motivation. I was like, that's funny. You can't fuck on the waterbed. 00:36:34 Speaker 1: That was sad. That man couldn't get his groove. 00:36:38 Speaker 3: He said, I'm a elite athlete or something like that. He was trying to find his pocket. 00:36:45 Speaker 1: He couldn't find it. Slow down. Relax, nigga. 00:36:48 Speaker 2: It's a rhythm, my nigga. 00:36:50 Speaker 1: Well, he's also a goofy white dude. Yeah, that's what she told him. She was like, just go away, bro. He had it for a minute and then it was too good. He tried to. 00:36:58 Speaker 4: Man. 00:37:01 Speaker 1: But, yeah. Hurricane. Couldn't swim. At all. 00:37:09 Speaker 4: But, yeah, this. 00:37:10 Speaker 1: Relationship between Lee and Pam is just, I wasn't invested. But when she offered him some pie, this was the blackest shit of the whole movie. He said, pie! That's what he wanted to say. 00:37:22 Speaker 4: That's what he said in the end. 00:37:23 Speaker 1: That's what he wanted to say. That was a translation of pie. We all got it. Every black person on earth knew what he meant when he said pie. Better be some pussy pie. Fuck wrong with you. I was crying when he said it like that. I was like, man, this dude is killing this world. He was. He did a good job. He did a good ass job. He's from Black Lightning. Oh, really? Yeah, I think he's Black Lightning. I've never seen Black Lightning, but when I kept thinking, I was like, I know this guy from somewhere. But I guess I don't, because I looked up his roles. I've never seen him before. 00:37:56 Speaker 2: I ain't never seen him before. I would have remembered him for breakfast. 00:38:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:38:01 Speaker 2: He's just so mean to you. 00:38:03 Speaker 1: My man said, I don't want no goddamn pot. Playing with my emotions. Playing with my emotions, goddamn. I'm the only Negro in this town. You over here playing me like this? 00:38:11 Speaker 2: I also felt like there was some of that, too, where he was like, you don't want to be seeing me because I'm black, huh, bitch? 00:38:15 Speaker

1: That's what it kind of felt like. But I'm mad they didn't go there. There were so many opportunities to go there, and they just didn't. And I meant to mention that earlier. The showrunner came out and was saying that the studio was very strict about things they could do. So nudity. they weren't allowed to show any, which I think is fucking ridiculous. In a Jason movie. In a Jason movie where that is the main thing of why he kills people. He killed people for fucking. Yes. You see people's asses, but if you notice, every time there's like actual sex, the breasts are covered up. 00:38:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:38:51 Speaker 1: And it's just goofy. 00:38:51 Speaker 2: Fully clothed down there. 00:38:52 Speaker 1: Fully clothed. Yeah, like. 00:38:55 Speaker 2: Pound. 00:38:55 Speaker 1: Yes. And then when they show the hippies fucking. The hippie was naked from the waist down, but she had like a scarf over her boobs. It's like, what is this? But I think that that also played into like there was cursing. But, you know, but certain certain themes, certain ideas, I feel like they just wouldn't let him go there because they were definitely hinting at the racism and the racial implications between Lee and Pam. But they didn't want to go there. And it's like, why? 00:39:24 Speaker 4: This is a horror movie. 00:39:25 Speaker 1: What are y'all scared of? 00:39:26 Speaker 2: But, like, A24, I thought they pushed it. 00:39:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. on Peacock. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably had the stipulations. 00:39:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really irritating. But yeah, after finding out that Barry has been fucking Harmony, Claudette tearfully confesses to Pam that her and Barry were fucking while Jason drowned. Which I was like, oh, your ass is dead. Yeah, I thought so. I was like, what the fuck? 00:39:48 Speaker 2: What'd you even say? Why'd you bring that shit up? 00:39:51 Speaker 1: Like, no. No, that didn't make any sense. 00:39:53 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say nothing to nobody. Like, that shit would be so far back. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:56 Speaker 2: Because I know I fucked up so bad. I don't want to talk about that shit. 00:39:59 Speaker 1: They tried to make it like, oh, well, she's Christian now, so she's confessing because she's been talking to pastors so-and-so, which that went nowhere either because they were trying to imply that he's a pedo. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: What? 00:40:09 Speaker 1: Oh, they did? For no reason, yes. He was making her describe sex. Yes, I remember. And how it felt. And I was like, oh, this is interesting. Didn't go anywhere. Yep, sure didn't. 00:40:19 Speaker 2: And Pam even asked about it. She was like, he asked you to describe it? 00:40:23 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:40:24 Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, damn, she going to kill the pastor. 00:40:26 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But nope, they didn't. Didn't even return to this idea. I thought that was really weird. 00:40:32 Speaker 2: It was almost like, yeah, it's weird people in the 70s. They be doing this kind of shit. Well, 60s. They be doing this kind of shit and this kind of shit and this kind of shit. But we ain't going to touch none of it. 00:40:40 Speaker 1: Right. That was really irritating. For a horror movie in 2026 or for a horror show, whatever, the fact that y'all scared to touch quote unquote taboo topics. Fuck out of here. But later, Claudette and Barry are murdered in the boathouse where they were fucking before. Pam shows up to find that Gracie, who is high as fuck on LSD. 00:41:01 Speaker 2: She dropped three times. 00:41:03 Speaker 1: She did, yeah, at least three. But yes, she's the one who stabbed him, and then Pam finishes clawing it off. So was any of this cool? Was it a surprise that it was Grace? I knew it was Grace. I'm going to pull my ride shit. 00:41:17 Speaker 3: I knew it was Grace, which didn't make any sense because that scene is damn near ridiculous. bar for bar beat for beat from the opening scene in the original movie which I thought was cool it just I just didn't like the fact that it was it was grace because it didn't make sense for it to be grace but she had been on the stuff so you know from you know it definitely seemed like it was going to be a good misdirection you know but. 00:41:48 Speaker 2: I didn't like that it was grace either I thought it was it just after watching the first one I was just like well Why the fuck? What the fuck does this little white girl got to do with anything? I'm sorry. It don't matter that she white. What she got to do with anything? Like, I don't know. And then making her the killer, having Pam finish everything off, and then that whole, like, situation on the steps. I was just like, it's too much happening. It's too much going on. Like, I can't even figure out what, like, she off the LSD or whatever the fuck she dropped and, like, This bitch finishing this. I don't know. It was just a lot. It was a lot compacted into that little moment. And then to watch the actual movie and figure out that it's not even that big of a, well, you know. 00:42:37 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:38 Speaker 2: It was a lot. 00:42:40 Speaker 1: So I think what they were going for was, obviously, in the movie, we didn't know that it was Pam going around killing people. So that reveal was actually pretty shocking. I think they were trying to go for something similar. Like, let's do a kill, and instead of y'all being shocked that it was Pam, we're going to make you shocked that it was Grace. I didn't like this either, and it absolutely went no fucking where. And like I said before, this is when I realized, oh, y'all are remaking the movie. Why? Why are you remaking the movie when you can just make a fucking other thing, like a prequel? Why? But yeah, I didn't like this part. Um. 00:43:24 Speaker 1: But yeah, Brianna tracks down Dr. Landau, who was part of the lawsuit with Bellflower, and he tells her to stay away from the case. But that opens up episode six with,

it's called Kill Them, Mommy. After having a vision of Jason, Pam goes out and kills all of the hippies except Harmony. So we're all into these kills. I did like this. Yeah. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: I did like this. Especially when she showed up, she was like, oh, my God, you got blood on you. 00:43:53 Speaker 1: Are you okay? And she just started fucking him up. So, because now we're seeing her, like, do. Full psychotic. Yeah, yeah. 00:44:01 Speaker 3: Like, she's gone now. And, you know, it's tied to these feelings, I guess, she has for Grace. Because Grace took the drugs. Grace has replaced Jason at this point. Was starting to replace Jason as her kid. And she's developed this attachment and this protective sort of thing. for Grace, where she wasn't able to do that with Jason. Also, by now, she already knows that, you know, their negligence is what led to Jason. So she's damn near her complete psychotic break. So it was good seeing her get these skills off. 00:44:36 Speaker 2: She a motherfucking hypocrite. She a hypocrite. She's drawing that nigga first. 00:44:41 Speaker 1: That's true. Oh, my God. That's true. 00:44:44 Speaker 4: That's true. 00:44:45 Speaker 2: She draw that nigga first so she mad at them because they didn't sing it. That ain't fair. 00:44:51 Speaker 1: I did it first. It's true. Yeah. 00:44:56 Speaker 2: But I, the hippie scene I thought was really cool. I was mad the black girl went the way she went because I was like, girl. 00:45:05 Speaker 1: It was extra. Like, everybody else got one stab. She stabbed her like 38 times. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: And then like, she was like, oh my God, is there, like, bitch, come on, where is your sense at? 00:45:17 Speaker 1: She was hippies. They don't have any senses. 00:45:20 Speaker 2: They were high. 00:45:20 Speaker 4: They were high. 00:45:21 Speaker 2: They were high, yeah. Because I was just like, bitch, you see blood? 00:45:26 Speaker 1: Run. 00:45:28 Speaker 2: But she killed the fuck out of him. That was, I don't know, that was probably like the best scene in the show for me. I was like, yeah, bitch, kill her. Kill them, mommy. Because I guess in my head I was like, finally something's happening. Like, it's more than like five seconds of like. 00:45:48 Speaker 1: A quick kill. Yeah. 00:45:50 Speaker 2: Like, she just went ham. And she was all in the woods. Like, she killed the. 00:45:54 Speaker 4: Fuck out of him. 00:45:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you like these kills? Yeah, this worked. 00:45:59 Speaker 5: This kill, it reminded me like it was vintage Friday the 13th. It was like, yeah, this is like when I remember renting them from Blockbuster and watching them and shit. 00:46:07 Speaker 1: That's what that felt like. Yeah, so she stabs one through the eye of the camera with a machete. And she slit one girl's throat while she was fucking the dude. I thought that was a good-ass scene. Because the dude was like, oh, yeah. And that was a good-ass scene. And he tried to get away, and she stabbed him up. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: They gave you full butt, though. 00:46:30 Speaker 1: They did give full butt for the girl and the guy. But I just don't... Not that I need to see breasts. It was just like... I do. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: Because of how they did it, it was weird. 00:46:39 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. It just feels like that is the essence of Friday the 13th. So why would you leave that out? It just didn't... It just felt weird. Because you got cursing, you got extreme gore, but you're afraid to show breasts. 00:46:52 Speaker 4: Why? 00:46:52 Speaker 1: I don't... Yeah, I don't... Didn't somebody get slammed against a tree, too? No. Okay, I'm thinking wrong. No, no. She stabbed the one guy who was already on the floor next to a tree. Right, okay. And then she ran over... and then she was going to kill the other guy, and the camera cuts away so you don't see it. But she does find a guy that's already been killed by a machete, so she figures out that it's Jason. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there was the one guy that was going to take the boat, and then he slapped the shit out of Gracie, because Gracie jumped on his back for whatever the fuck reason. Right. So Jason was like, you can't hit my girl. 00:47:28 Speaker 2: So he cognitive enough to recognize, don't fuck with Gracie. 00:47:32 Speaker 3: Probably because of the mom, though. Maybe he's seeing the mom kind of look out for her. 00:47:37 Speaker 1: And it was his friend, too. Yeah, that was his friend. Oh, yeah, there's that. That was the only girl that was nice to him. I forgot. Yeah, it was that. It was the friend thing. They showed the flashback of them, like, talking about this is our fortress or something. I thought they were going to get a thing going on. 00:47:51 Speaker 4: And I wouldn't have been mad. 00:47:53 Speaker 1: I would have. I thought she was going to like him. I thought she was that crazy, bro. If his head looks like that, bro, come on, what do you think? What does that mean? Mm-mm. Just. 00:48:05 Speaker 1: Might be two of them down there. Exactly. He probably got, yeah. 00:48:09 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:48:10 Speaker 1: Two and a half dicks. 00:48:11 Speaker 2: She was weird. She would have been into it. 00:48:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. It seemed like they were going to have some affection. It did seem like that. But I was like, bro, you're going to make this a little bit too unrealistic. Yeah. Because they are 13. That would have been a little. Amen. 00:48:25 Speaker 2: You like who you like. Love is love. 00:48:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. She only liked him because she. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: Didn't have no friends. My mom said that shit. 00:48:32 Speaker 1: Yeah. Her hair was shaped a little bit like Jason. It was kind of... It wasn't. It was a little bit. She looked normal. 00:48:39 Speaker 4: Her hair just wasn't swollen. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 00:48:43 Speaker 4: You put a wig on Jason, bruh. 00:48:45 Speaker 1: And that's Gracie? No. No, it's not. What are you talking about? It's fucked

up, man. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: Jason got the clay face. 00:48:52 Speaker 1: He does. Jason has a real face problem. So the state police show up and they take over the case. Uh... The guy that Brianna met, Landau, he sends her a case file, which have Pam in there. He tries to meet up with Pam to explain more, but is killed before he can do it. And it's here that we meet Elias, who is Pam's husband. And he tells Brianna about Project Argonaut, which was some experimental trials. 00:49:19 Speaker 4: But. 00:49:20 Speaker 1: Brianna wasn't going for the bullshit. She barely escaped the men, goes back and tells Lee what she knows, and the episode ends with Lee and Brie showing up at Pam's to confront her. 00:49:31 Speaker 3: Hey, shout out to Brie, bruh, because I thought she was done for. 00:49:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, she should have been. Yeah, yeah. But I'm glad she wasn't. Yeah, she stabbed that motherfucker and got the fuck up out of there. 00:49:43 Speaker 2: I like the fact that she was just sitting there and he was like, you didn't tell me her name, did you? I was like, get the fuck off of it. 00:49:49 Speaker 1: Elias realized he fucked up. 00:49:51 Speaker 3: He was like, well, all right. Yeah, give it to Tommy or whatever his name was. 00:49:55 Speaker 1: I like the cop, the black cop having that pass, too. Oh, the dirty shit? Yeah, like them... I wish they had gotten more into that. I think that was something. I think they kept dragging this shit on. 00:50:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I want to just address it and let us know and then move on. They just kept bringing it back up. 00:50:10 Speaker 1: Which part? Well, they was talking about some shit that he did. Him being dirty. Oh, yeah. And they kept mentioning it, but they never really got into it. Well, they did. 00:50:18 Speaker 5: The dude told them at the end. I can't remember who he told. 00:50:21 Speaker 1: It just took a lot of episodes. Yeah. It did take a lot of episodes. I think the payoff was weak. Yeah. It was very weak. I was like, bro, that's all you did? You took some money and then you paid off your wife's- Right. For your wife's treatment and she died anyway. It's like, bro, what? Yeah. It didn't make you honorable. You know what I'm saying? 00:50:38 Speaker 2: No, it just made him a little stupid. 00:50:39 Speaker 1: Facts. A little bit. 00:50:40 Speaker 2: Because everybody else knew to watch their shit and you just sitting on it. 00:50:45 Speaker 1: And you probably wouldn't have got caught. 00:50:46 Speaker 3: Right. 00:50:47 Speaker 1: Right. It's your fault. 00:50:48 Speaker 2: But I mean, if you're going to let them make you do some shit, then, you know, cover your own ass. 00:50:53 Speaker 1: Right. Do it right. Exactly. Or that. All right. So this takes us into episode seven, which is called. friday boy okay so this is a flashback episode where we find that pam was a singer who had a miscarriage on stage elias takes her to his employer um uh bell bellflower he takes him takes her to the facility in houston um which this random side note i don't know how miscarriages work but this seemed like the longest miscarriage on the planet she had a miscarriage for a day and a half And I thought that was really weird. But, you know, we meet Dr. Valentine who tells her that he can save her baby. And she also meets Trish who's undergoing the treatments as well. But Trish ends up with a stillborn baby and kills herself in front of Pam due to the guilt. Seeing this pushes Pam into early labor where she gives birth to a fucked up ass baby. What did y'all think of this? I hated this whole episode. I didn't need it. 00:51:57 Speaker 5: I did not need 40 minutes in this world to understand that this happened. We've seen this story, but it's a stranger thing. We've seen this, dog. The experiment on kids. Okay, we get it. 00:52:08 Speaker 1: The big bad is the people in the science labs. Got it. Good. Great. 00:52:12 Speaker 5: I didn't need to see her slowly mentally deteriorate because we had already been shown that for the previous six. 00:52:19 Speaker 1: I already knew she was crazy. But you didn't know why she was praying. You're right. And it didn't take but 10 minutes, King. All I needed was 10 minutes. All I got, oh, okay. Experiment on a boom. They gave her pills too. Yeah, exactly. Let's get back to Crystal Lake. I'm with you 100%, Spike. Once again. 00:52:33 Speaker 3: It's like they wanted to use this to explain why Jason King died. 00:52:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. We didn't need a whole episode. A whole episode. A lot. And they did drag it out. This flashback could have legit been 10 minutes. Yes. 00:52:45 Speaker 3: And this is where I thought Jason got slow the first time when he drowned in the In the water. 00:52:51 Speaker 5: I don't have kids, but I've never seen a kid washed up in a bathtub like that. 00:52:55 Speaker 1: What do you mean? Usually it's the sink or like a tub. Oh, this was back in the day. So they did used to wash kids in big ass tubs. 00:53:04 Speaker 2: Well, you can still to this day, but you have like, you have baby tubs. 00:53:08 Speaker 1: You put them in the baby tub. 00:53:10 Speaker 2: In the big tub. And you don't, you put. 00:53:12 Speaker 1: Water on them. Right, you don't let the water run. I was like, this is crazy. 00:53:16 Speaker 2: But it was legitimate, like, being that tired, having just given birth, nobody there to come in and help relieve you. Falling asleep like that, absolutely. How you don't do that shit is you decide to take a nap and you put your baby somewhere safe. That's how you don't do that shit, like a playpen or somewhere. 00:53:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:53:36 Speaker 2: But water. 00:53:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they made her being tired make sense because she's doing all the work. 00:53:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:53:43 Speaker 3: Um, cause I don't even know if she even had a nanny. And Jay, you heard this motherfucker crying. This motherfucker live, gargling and crying and

shit like that. 00:53:52 Speaker 1: I'm not sleeping with that shit. 00:53:53 Speaker 2: They were showing like colic and, and things on the screen as like issues. And I was just like, it can't be colic. That's not colic. Then that cry wasn't a colic. 00:54:03 Speaker 1: Nah, that wasn't, that was. 00:54:05 Speaker 2: That was something else. That was pain. 00:54:06 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:54:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. He sounded like he was in misery. 00:54:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:54:11 Speaker 1: Sounded like he looked. Yeah. 00:54:12 Speaker 2: But when you have babies, they have different cries. Like, you know, the hungry cry, you know, I just shit it. You know, like, but it's different cries. 00:54:21 Speaker 1: Interesting. It sounded like he wanted to kill. 00:54:23 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:54:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:54:25 Speaker 2: I didn't like it. Okay, so you said it was a long miscarriage. I thought she miscarried. She didn't pass, and they regurgitated the fucking fetus pieces in her fucking body, and that's why it looked like that. That's what I got from that. 00:54:45 Speaker 1: I didn't think they did that. I thought that she had a miscarriage, because all the other babies look like that, which we'll get to later. Oh, they do? Yeah, when Pam breaks in, there's a bunch of other babies in there, and they're all fucked up like that. So I don't think they put the pieces back together. That would have been crazy. But I think that they just started performing the experiments on the fetus that was supposedly miscarried. 00:55:12 Speaker 2: Which would have meant it died. 00:55:14 Speaker 1: Right. So they definitely resuscitated the baby inside of her stomach. 00:55:19 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:55:19 Speaker 1: But... That's... It just made, again, I don't know how this works, but she had a miscarriage in Texas. 00:55:28 Speaker 2: In New York. 00:55:29 Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, in New York, in New York, in New York. And the doctor's like, we can't help you. So you have to go somewhere else. So it looked like they went to New York the following day. And she was standing up and just walking around like everything is normal. And I was like, well, this doesn't make any sense. How have you been miscarrying for fucking 24 hours? Maybe that happens. I just don't know because I don't know shit about babies. 00:55:50 Speaker 2: I don't know about, like, how, like, I think a miscarriage can go on for a while simply because you can't pass the tissue. Like, sometimes, because. 00:56:01 Speaker 1: Oh, that, I did know that. That's right. That's right. 00:56:04 Speaker 2: Like, sometimes you have to go to the hospital and get a DNC. So, which is where they suck everything out. 00:56:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:56:10 Speaker 2: But, her, her miscarriage, like, the way she hemorrhaged on stage, that much blood, that baby was dead then. 00:56:19 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: Like, Usually when you see the hemorrhaging and those things, that's already a not form. 00:56:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a wrap. 00:56:29 Speaker 2: So that's why I was like, what the fuck did they do? Did they scramble and put the motherfucker back together? But to your point, it can. It can go on for days. But usually you go to the hospital, which maybe they did a DNC at the hospital. I'm not sure because- I mean, he was just smoking. 00:56:46 Speaker 1: Like, I can't do shit for you. Yeah, just some shit that don't work out for y'all. I was fucked up. He's like, yeah, some gals just ain't made for this. 00:56:54 Speaker 2: And then that nigga was like, he was like, I work for Bellflower Chemical. And it was like. 00:56:58 Speaker 1: He was like, so what? 00:57:01 Speaker 2: But he said that shit like it mattered. And so did they compensate him by giving him raises? 00:57:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:57:11 Speaker 2: Okay. But he was continuously getting promotions, right? 00:57:15 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was continuously getting promotions. 00:57:17 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:57:17 Speaker 1: Because that's, again, that's one of my gripes of this show is like you brought in this guy and we don't really know anything about him. He doesn't have a lot of screen time. Then you kill him. Yep. But you act like, well, we'll get to that episode. We'll get to that episode. Elias gets a promotion by dealing with Pam, basically. And we already talked about the drowning because after one night of sleep, or I'm sorry, after one night, Pam falls asleep and she drowns Jason. But Jason comes back to life. But through Jason's drawing, this is, I think they said nine years later or something like this? After the drowning? Because then Jason's like a toddler. 00:57:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:58 Speaker 1: So she learns through Jason's drawings that Jason is being experimented on by Bellflower. So we go to an event at Bellflower where we hear Elias explain what Jason is, which he says he was an experiment. that they were conducting to create people who could survive nuclear war. So were y'all okay with this explanation? 00:58:20 Speaker 2: No. 00:58:21 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:58:23 Speaker 2: I understand them setting it up, like him coming out of the bomb shelter with the radio. I definitely understood that part. I was like, okay. He's a bomb. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: He's a bomb. 00:58:34 Speaker 1: That was funny. 00:58:35 Speaker 2: Mind you, them kids was real cool with Jason until he was kicking. 00:58:38 Speaker 1: Would you be? 00:58:39 Speaker 2: Hell nah. 00:58:41 Speaker 1: Don't fucking walk up with that big-ass head. I'm not hanging out with you. That shit might be contagious. I wouldn't have been either, but I'm just talking about... Oh, yeah, I guess. I realize, yeah. 00:58:48 Speaker 2: I mean, also, kids are just cruel. 00:58:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 00:58:51 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck why you look like that nigga. 00:58:53 Speaker 1: You look like that. Right, right. Get your big-ass head off my face. 00:58:56 Speaker 2: Especially at that age.

00:58:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:58:58 Speaker 2: So I was surprised that the kids were playing with him, and then when they were running from him, not because he looked like that, but because he was a bomb, I'm. 00:59:05 Speaker 1: Like, okay. That was kind of funny. 00:59:08 Speaker 3: That was like a big fear in the 70s about nuclear. Because when he was on that stage, he was kind of really selling it. He was like, yeah, we all going to blow up and then who the only thing that can live is a fucking cockroach. I thought he was saying his son was a cockroach. He kind of was. I do want to go back real quick. So, Was he happy his son survived the drowning? Because it looked like when he walked in there and he was like, oh shit, you know, he's dead. And he pulled him out and she was trying to save him. He was like, don't worry about it. He's already dead. 00:59:40 Speaker 1: And it's over. And then the motherfucker, he walked back up. He was like, god damn it. 00:59:44 Speaker 3: It looked like he wasn't really happy that he survived the drowning. 00:59:50 Speaker 2: I think he knew it was going to lead to more experiments. Because if he had died, it would have been over. I think at first he wasn't down with that shit. And then I think as, like, that's why I was asking if he was continuously getting promotions. 01:00:06 Speaker 1: Just buying them off. 01:00:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he kind of seemed to, like, slowly go into, like, all right, well, you know, shoot him up, whatever y'all got. 01:00:14 Speaker 3: You know, it's just this whole thing of we're going to explain how Jason keeps coming alive. I mean, it was twisted, demented, all the disfigured. babies and kids that we saw. I mean, that was pretty cool. It's just, I'm trying to understand and process why this, you know, why do they feel the need to explain why, you know, he can't be killed. 01:00:40 Speaker 1: I think they're looking for sympathy or empathy or whichever one. That's the only thing I got. Like, they trying to tell. 01:00:46 Speaker 5: This story so we'll have, like, ah, he was just a victim of these big, bad pharma. 01:00:52 Speaker 1: I mean, drowning is enough. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: You know, like a kid drowning because of negligence in a camp and the mom taking revenge on him because of the way he died is because they're having sex. And that's how he died. I'm going to kill everybody having sex. That makes sense. Trying to explain. And I think him being like this mythical horror figure because of that, this revenge keeps him alive is enough. 01:01:22 Speaker 4: So. 01:01:23 Speaker 3: To say, hey, we're going to put this big-ass needle in the stomach and bring it back and we're going to do this because we want to survive a nuclear fallout as humans. 01:01:36 Speaker 5: I don't understand why they would go that way. I don't like that they did it. 01:01:42 Speaker 1: It's enough. The revenge is enough. 01:01:45 Speaker 5: That's the context that I need for a serial psycho killer like Jason. 01:01:49 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 01:01:50 Speaker 5: He's kind of, I don't know what he is. And he out here killing people because of revenge. I thought it was too much. And it was flimsy. Like you said, it's like, I don't care. 01:01:58 Speaker 1: Is this going to be canon now? I think it is. 01:02:00 Speaker 5: So now you're going to do this thing, like you said, they do a franchise and they go back to where they do the science shit. 01:02:07 Speaker 2: But I also feel like maybe they were trying to take away the supernatural element of it. 01:02:12 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that was it. I don't like it. But I don't know. 01:02:17 Speaker 2: It's scarier if it's supernatural. You start putting science behind. 01:02:21 Speaker 1: It and I'm like, okay, well, Right, it's just like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely think they were trying to skew away from the supernatural shit, but whatever. I didn't really care for that that much. You didn't like the episode either? No. Yeah. I did not like this episode. I didn't like, but I was fine with the explanation of why Jason's the way he is. Mm-hmm. I was actually surprised by how much I liked it. I was like, okay, all right, I can ride with that. I thought they were going to make him an alien. I thought all types of shit I was telling my girl, and she was like, just chill out until we see it. But yeah, episode seven, I did not like the episode, but I did. I liked seeing Trish stab herself in the neck and cut her own head. Yeah, that was good. I thought that was tight. 01:03:14 Speaker 2: I thought she was going to come back to life. 01:03:16 Speaker 1: I did for a hot minute, too. I thought she was going to come back as like a Jason-ish kind of person. But yeah, I didn't believe him that her son is stillborn. 01:03:25 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows? 01:03:26 Speaker 1: They're probably still doing experiments on her. 01:03:28 Speaker 2: Now, here's my question. In the very first, I think it's the first episode, maybe the second, when they come, the dudes come and get her. When she kills bruh and suffocates him with that blood, he does come back to life. So was bruh part of the experiment too? 01:03:43 Speaker 1: I think that was just... No, I don't think he was part of the experiment. I think that... That was just them not thinking this whole thing through, and they just wanted a shocking moment. I thought that was in her head. I didn't know he really came back to life. Yeah, he really came back to life because she was covered in blood at the beginning of the episode, and that was his blood because he poured onto her face. Oh, I thought she imagined it. I don't think so. But yeah, so like I said before, Pam breaks in. She finds a bunch of the other little fucked up ass babies. She kills Dr. Valentine, which that was a good-ass scene. We'll talk about that in a second. She grabs Jason, and with the help of Elias' assistant, Nora, she escapes. I wanted to see that motherfucker that was

under that black bag, though. I did, too. Yeah, that motherfucker sounds scary. Yeah, that dude sounds insane. I want to see that, too. But yeah, this is where Dr. Valentine says that they've been giving her drugs, and if she stops taking them now, that the side effects will be debilitating. So we can just assume that's why she's crazy and killing people. did not need this, at fucking all. It's like, why can't she just be grief-stricken and nuts? Why do you have to be like, well, we're going to give her an out? 01:04:56 Speaker 2: I'm calling bullshit. 01:04:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just. 01:05:00 Speaker 2: Because it makes no sense because she was straight until Jason drowned again. She didn't go out killing nobody. That's bullshit. 01:05:07 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. And one of y'all, I think it was you, that was like, well, they're just trying to make her, or maybe it was you, trying to make her an overly sympathetic character. 01:05:14 Speaker 3: Gotcha. 01:05:16 Speaker 1: That's this like they're like, well, we don't want to make her a killer. So we'll just say that it's the medicine's fault. It's like, why, though? 01:05:24 Speaker 2: Maybe they were trying to bring in the the older female audience, because like one thing that I will say is for women like baby boomer women, that was a real deal, like scary thing. your husband deciding that you crazy, you need meds and being able to take your kid and shit like that. So maybe that's why they did that because they really harked in it like heavy, like, Oh bitch, you drowned them and, and you won't got them antipsychotics. 01:05:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:05:55 Speaker 2: So I don't, I don't know for sure, but I know that was a big deal. Cause like women pretend to be fucking straight so they don't lose them kids. Especially at that point before you had a voice. 01:06:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was cool that they show who Nora was, but I didn't really care all that much, but it was fine. But the rest of this episode was just like, eh, I'm not, I'm not happy. I'm not really interested in this, but luckily we're at the end. Episode eight called the final chapter, which was also another Jason movie. Well, they thought they was going to stop. Yeah, they did. That was, it was supposed to be the last one. Uh, I can't remember how they killed him in that one. It ain't the one where they put him in the water and burnt him up. I think it is. I think it is. I think that's the one where Tommy put the rope around his neck or the chain around his neck and trapped him. But then in the next one, you had the girl that was psychic that came over and brought him up out of the water. But yeah, so Pam tells Lee and Bree about Bellflower. Elias arrives in town looking for her. Rita tells Dorf that he needs to go check on Pam. Elias and his men show up at the precinct where they find Pam, who's been hiding downstairs. Pam stabs Elias in the neck and then a firefight breaks out. Dorf hits... Dorf

hits one of the guys in the eye with a fucking ninja star and we get shot in the gut. While I get my chapstick, y'all go. What do y'all think about this nonsense? 01:07:35 Speaker 2: Do ninja stars have any kind of... Reverence in the series? 01:07:40 Speaker 1: No. 01:07:41 Speaker 3: Never made an appearance. Dorf is a dork, man. They just played on that. 01:07:46 Speaker 2: Because they couldn't figure. 01:07:48 Speaker 3: Out another way to write him out of being surrounded by guns. 01:07:52 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:07:53 Speaker 4: No. 01:07:54 Speaker 2: Now, that pissed me off. There is a scene where they pan to this nigga having a marksman fucking award on the wall, and he can't get a damn shot off without Dorf. 01:08:06 Speaker 1: Well, no. 01:08:07 Speaker 3: Okay, so I get being surrounded. Like, who do you shoot first? So that made sense. But when Dorf threw the... Because they all were like, did this motherfucker really just throw a fucking ninja star and. 01:08:16 Speaker 1: This shit work? So I get that part of it. 01:08:19 Speaker 3: It's just like when they start shooting, when he shot the one guy over there, he should have. 01:08:24 Speaker 1: Immediately been boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, around. It was like, boom. 01:08:29 Speaker 3: And then he slow turned over and then he got shot. So, you know, to your point, if he's a marksman and... Was he ex-military? 01:08:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. Well, wait, no, no, no. I don't think he was ex-military. I think Ralph was ex-military. 01:08:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I thought he was going to get off a little bit better than he did. 01:08:45 Speaker 1: If he did, I think I would have been bothered. Oh. It would have been a little too ridiculous if he just turned into John Wick and just shot everybody. He should have at least got two, though. He should have got two. I'm with you on that. 01:08:56 Speaker 2: Then why show me the fucking plaque? 01:08:58 Speaker 1: I don't know, because it didn't even come in the plaque. at all. Not at all. I get, well, no, because even after he was shot in the gut and he was on the floor, he did shoot that guy in the head, but it was like, y'all were like eight feet away. I could have done that. So, yeah, it didn't really, yeah, you're right. 01:09:13 Speaker 4: It didn't really come into play. 01:09:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, this whole scene was bothersome to me. It was goofy. 01:09:18 Speaker 3: You know, I understand you're a black cop in a white town, but bro, you, you're the fucking sheriff, bro. 01:09:25 Speaker 1: Like you letting him, he, you gave. 01:09:27 Speaker 3: Him way too much damn power, you know, for it to be a complete stranger. 01:09:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:09:35 Speaker 3: Like at that point you'd be like, Hey bro, I just need you to leave. You allowed them to come in and surround you, you know? So, um, so I don't know. It was just kind of fucking weird. 01:09:47 Speaker 1: It was very weird. 01:09:48 Speaker 2: Deep measuring context. For no reason. 01:09:50 Speaker 1: For no reason. And this is, again, and I haven't looked. I know there was different writers on certain episodes, but this just felt like it was a different show at this point. This felt like fucking Walker Texas Rangers. 01:10:01 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:10:01 Speaker 1: I was like, what are we watching right now? Are y'all fucking serious? This guy hit him in the eye with a ninja sword? Yeah, the last two. 01:10:08 Speaker 2: They jumped the shark in the random series. 01:10:10 Speaker 1: The last two were clunky. Very clunky. That's a good word. What the fuck is happening? Oh, this was ridiculous, man. It should have been six episodes. That would have been it. I agree. Because we didn't need the full episode seven. No. And they should have cut out a lot of this goofy ass fucking dumb shit. And just had a longer six. 01:10:27 Speaker 2: Give her a back story and call it a day. 01:10:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like any of this at all. I didn't like Brie coming up the stairs like, you heard gunshots. What are you doing? Why are you coming up the fucking stairs? Brie, stay down there. Yeah, Brie, you dumb fuck. Stay downstairs. 01:10:46 Speaker 2: Pam. 01:10:46 Speaker 3: Pam. 01:10:47 Speaker 1: Why you stab him in the back? His whole neck is right here. Yeah. You stabbed him in the fucking shoulder. Right. 01:10:55 Speaker 4: Why? 01:10:56 Speaker 1: Least dangerous place you could have stabbed him. Bro, who dies from a shoulder stab? Right. This, yeah, this whole, this whole part was just stupid. So I'm glad y'all agree. The sequence is crazy. The what? 01:11:06 Speaker 2: No, that sequence makes no sense. 01:11:08 Speaker 1: None. Like, Shit ain't as bad as the end sequence, though. Oh, Jesus. 01:11:12 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 01:11:13 Speaker 5: They flat out played in our face at the end. They was like, okay, here y'all go. Man, get the fuck away. 01:11:18 Speaker 1: Like, what? 01:11:19 Speaker 2: We ain't asking for this shit. 01:11:20 Speaker 1: Right. That is true. So, yeah, let's go ahead and get to the end. Elias and a few of his men escape in the car where they're confronted by Jason on the road. They veer off and they crash, which leaves them, leaving them to have to escape into the woods on foot. There they encounter Jason, who kills two of the men before meeting up with his mom and dad. Let's talk about the two kills of the other henchmen. I can't front. I fuck with these kills. When Jason hit the motherfuckers in the face with that goddamn metal pipe and his whole head split back, I was like, yo, he pushed his way back. That was tight. That was a good job on those kills, too. I almost forgot. Yeah. Yeah, those were dope. Okay, so y'all like those. 01:12:03 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 01:12:03 Speaker 1: All right. Well. 01:12:09 Speaker 1: He starts talking to his dad, Elias. 01:12:12 Speaker 2: And he crushes Elias' head. 01:12:15 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. It was a cool kill. It was a stupid

scene. I did not like this at all. And I'll tell you why in a second. He almost kills Pam by choking her before the power of love. That's the power of love. The power of love saves her because she's telling Jason how much she loves him. And he lets go of her neck. Right before Ralph shoots Jason and then Jason disappears. Then we have Pam declaring the woods belong to her and Jason. And she's laughing as she says it. And the show ends with a couple of kids telling some fucking stupid ass campfire stories about Jason. And that's how we got the famous kill, kill, kill. That's what he did. Who did that? That's what the guy said. Yeah, he said it. 01:13:09 Speaker 3: After he told the story, he was like, kill, kill, kill. And then it was a ah, ah, ah after that. 01:13:17 Speaker 4: What? 01:13:18 Speaker 2: I missed that whole piece. 01:13:22 Speaker 1: So that's, it's kill, kill, kill. I always thought it was them going, that's what I thought. 01:13:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. 01:13:30 Speaker 1: This is stupid. Because he was like, kill, kill, kill. And I was waiting for the other part And then he did the ah part to scare them, I think, if I remember correctly. Why are you doing this? 01:13:44 Speaker 2: I didn't even catch that. 01:13:45 Speaker 1: I didn't at all. I believe you, but no, I didn't catch any of that. Okay, so let's break down the confrontation between Jason and Elias. Did y'all like any of that? 01:13:59 Speaker 2: No. 01:13:59 Speaker 1: Damn. 01:14:00 Speaker 2: Because he was going to kill him no matter what. He was torturing him. And he remembered how, but He remembered. His brother was going to die. 01:14:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 01:14:15 Speaker 3: I think I didn't know if he really loved his son or not. And that's where I was kind of struggling. I was like, oh, my big, beautiful boy. 01:14:26 Speaker 1: Where? 01:14:27 Speaker 3: Right. 01:14:28 Speaker 1: Right. I know the power of love and you love your kids. But, bro. 01:14:34 Speaker 3: You've been experimenting on this kid. He's drowned. You know, you're blaming her for the second. Well, he called her out for the second round. It was like, oh, yeah, of course you do. Like, God damn, bro. 01:14:46 Speaker 1: You know, mother of the year. Let's him drown again. You know, are you a good point, though? Yeah. 01:14:53 Speaker 3: You're trying to get him back or do you get him back because you love him? And I guess they were trying to show that he really did love the kid by Touching him and saying, oh, you know, oh, yeah, my baby, you know, it's going to be OK. My baby, you know, for like he was actually happy to see his kid because of an emotional reason and not for the secondary reason, which is to get him back. 01:15:14 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't read it that way. OK, so you thought he was bullshit. 01:15:17 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:15:17 Speaker 1: I thought he was just like, oh, my big, beautiful boy, because he wanted to bring him back to the lab because he was going to make

him a lot of money. 01:15:25 Speaker 2: Technically, he was a success. 01:15:26 Speaker 1: Yes, he was the only success that we know of, at least. There's rumors that they're going to tie this to other franchises like Michael Myers. Since Michael Myers and Jason are basically the same fucking person, so they're trying to say that they're going to tie it to that franchise. Yeah, I couldn't tell, but okay. Tie the experiments to it? They're going to tie the Crystal Lake show to the Halloween franchise because they already tied it to the Evil Dead franchise, which was really annoying. They tied it to Evil Dead. Friday the 13th. 01:15:58 Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah. 01:15:59 Speaker 1: In one of the later movies, there's a Necronomicon. Okay. So the filmmakers tried to be like, well, that's what brought Jason to life. It was a necronomicon. It was just fucking stupid. Bro, he was like, okay, that's it. You can let go. It's a little tight. Yeah. 01:16:14 Speaker 4: Come on, man. Stop. 01:16:15 Speaker 2: Stop playing. 01:16:16 Speaker 1: Stop playing. Stop playing. Help me. 01:16:17 Speaker 4: Help me, please. Help me, please. 01:16:18 Speaker 1: Help me, please. I thought that was a good, I can't remember what he also said. It was a good kill. Yeah. You know, he fucking put his thumb in his eye, then the other eyeball popped out. I was like, oh, that's pretty funny. My issue with this is they didn't do Elias' character well at all. We had two episodes to sit with this guy. His motivation did not make enough sense for me to ride with this. He let them experiment on his miscarried baby. He let them experiment on the baby because he wanted a promotion? 01:16:54 Speaker 3: I don't know if he wanted a promotion. That's what I was trying to figure out. It's like, why did you go along with this experiment? 01:17:03 Speaker 1: He got a promotion because when... Pam is in the bed. Elias is talking to the boss, the Mr. Valentine guy, Dr. Valentine. And there's something said there that implies, like, oh, you're going to get a promotion. Yeah, they said. 01:17:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to take care of you or something like that. 01:17:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you went to... You said, I'm going to get a second opinion. 01:17:24 Speaker 3: And you went to get the second opinion, and they were like, hey, we can save your baby. So I thought his intents were pure, and they just started to say... Because we're going to do this experiment, this is what we're going to do for you in addition to that. 01:17:38 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:17:39 Speaker 3: And then it just, at that point, it became more about the company and less about the baby over time. 01:17:45 Speaker 2: I think that it's hard to tell whether Brad care about his kid or not because that actor's face is so insincere. Like, anytime you see him, it always feels like he's delivering sarcastic lines. 01:18:00 Speaker 1: Damn it, it's true. Yeah, he seems like he should be a comedy guy. 01:18:03 Speaker 2: Yeah.

But, like, even in Gen V, like, I feel like that's why they casted him, because he just doesn't look honest. So to your point, when he's like, he might have actually meant that shit, but you just can't read it from his face because he just got one of them like, yeah, please, nigga. 01:18:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you 100%. It's a good point you make about his face. He does have that kind of face where it's like, I'm not going to believe anything. You could tell me one plus one is two. I don't believe you. It's eight. But I just didn't like what they did. So my problem was they should have introduced him earlier. It's not like the revelation that he was her husband was like a big thing, but you couldn't. have had her having these flashbacks earlier show us a little bit more with him so by the time we get to Jason killing him it's like oh damn Jason killed his daddy Instead, it's just like, oh, Jason killed the guy we just met five minutes ago. Who cares? 01:19:06 Speaker 2: And it's already a foreign concept because they don't really speak about Jason's father in any of the other movies. So it's already a foreign concept. Flesh it out. 01:19:14 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, this was really bothering me. When Lee was like, yeah, did you report it? He was like, huh? He was like, man, bro, you said your kid's been missing. She ran off with your kid for eight years. You didn't report the shit? he's like you're not about to take my good white woman away from me yeah he did he was like oh y'all on first name basis huh he said Pam come on now Pam Pam Pam I changed my mind. I want some pie. I changed my mind, pal. 01:19:43 Speaker 2: And in that moment, he should have realized you ain't going to never be able to control this white bitch. 01:19:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. But yeah, she just stabbed his mother. She just stabbed her ex-husband, bro. Let this one go. Yeah, I'll take her with you. 01:19:55 Speaker 3: But yeah, I do agree. They didn't do enough for that moment to hit. Because as soon as we were like, you dead anyway. I think it would, if they, well, no, because Jason never leaves the woods, so he's not going to go with him. 01:20:10 Speaker 1: Well, he did. He went to Manhattan, remember? He went to Manhattan and space. 01:20:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did go to space, too. 01:20:16 Speaker 1: I forgot about Jason X. But, yes, you're right. 01:20:21 Speaker 3: But we knew he was going to stay in the woods, and that was it, and that's the end of the movie. So, at this point, I'm like, okay, so what happens next? So, I guess she just stayed there. It was like, yeah, it was our woods forever. 01:20:31 Speaker 1: I'm like, our woods? Yeah, you didn't even do nothing. 01:20:35 Speaker 3: So I guess she just stayed to cook while Jason just ran away. 01:20:39 Speaker 1: That's why this is stupid. It's like, why are you doing this? So where is she living? Why is she hanging out? What is this? 01:20:47 Speaker 3: Because Raph is in the 70s when it picked up. 01:20:51 Speaker 1: He's in that one too. 01:20:52 Speaker 3: Yes. 01:20:52 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:20:53 Speaker 1: So he's in the woods as well. And he knows about Jason. Because he shot him. Right. And Jason got his damn overalls on. So they're just trying to have a second season. They showed it, but they didn't make it clear. So Ralph is in the backyard. He has a bunch of clothes hung up. And then he goes over to the clothesline, and there's a pair of overalls gone. Damn. And he looks on the ground, and you see these big old feet. Oh, okay. 01:21:21 Speaker 3: They just didn't explain it well. They sure didn't, but you were absolutely, that's why, I was like, why is that scene important? 01:21:26 Speaker 1: My girl said the same thing. She's like, what are we supposed to be looking at? And I'm like, he saw big feet, and his fucking overalls are gone. Hmm. Damn. I was wondering where he got that dicky suit from. I missed the relevance of it. He did get a full-ass dicky suit. Like, he was ready for the fucking Connie video. That's Ralph's dick. He run around with rap shit, but yeah. 01:21:43 Speaker 2: Nah, that's some bullshit, bitch. Go get your son. 01:21:46 Speaker 1: You just think he's stealing my shit? Stealing some fucking overalls. 01:21:50 Speaker 2: Discipline that nigga. 01:21:52 Speaker 1: Bruh. He shot that motherfucker in the head. Turned around, that motherfucker was gone. She's like, he can't be hurt. This is our woods now. Who wrote this bullshit? It was like, your motherfucking ass crazy. Yeah, Ralph was like, I thought I was crazy. 01:22:07 Speaker 4: Your ass is crazy. I'm out. 01:22:09 Speaker 2: Fuck this. She was crazy when she accosted his ass. And she was like, who'd you see in the woods? What'd you see? 01:22:15 Speaker 1: It's my boy. Like, bitch. Ralph in that moment was like, uh-uh. I don't know about you. You ain't right, bitch. I don't know about you. 01:22:21 Speaker 2: So what happened to his mom? Did I miss something? Who's mom? Does Jason's mom die? 01:22:27 Speaker 1: In the original movie, yeah, she died at the end. 01:22:30 Speaker 2: I missed it. 01:22:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, at the very end, that was like spoiler alert for everybody who hasn't seen this 50-year-old movie. Oh, my God, yeah. But yeah, at the end, she gets her head chopped off. Yeah. Alice, whatever her name is. Yeah. So that's why I was like, okay, come on. Y'all are just doing the same shit that y'all did with Carrie. You just want more seasons. So you ended this with her still being alive, and then you left a whole bunch of shit unsolved. So we don't know what happened to Leigh. where's gracie like this is ridiculous but isn't this all taking place yeah oh yeah she got away right harmony got away so that's another loose end so yeah what'd. 01:23:10 Speaker 3: You say and grace was because she was like oh you know i guess grace became her kid but. 01:23:17 Speaker 1: Crystal lake is taking place in what. 01:23:20 Speaker 3: Time

period i don't even know and yeah because i don't know because It's 58 in the movie when Claudette and the other person was killed. 01:23:28 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:23:28 Speaker 1: And then the camp killings took place in the 70s. This looks like the 70s. 01:23:33 Speaker 3: Oh. 01:23:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, they combined everything because they were determined to make this a fucking remake instead of a prequel. 01:23:40 Speaker 3: But you're only going to get so many seasons because the mom dies anyway. 01:23:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they shouldn't have to. Just like with Carrie, they can have as many seasons as they want because they're just rewriting the damn story. With this, they can do the same shit. Pam can be around for three more seasons. Oh, just rewrite the whole movies. Yep. Just rewrite everything. Or they can just completely go in a different direction and not even pay attention to the movies anymore. 01:24:02 Speaker 3: I don't know what the response has been, but I do know it's still number one when you go to Peacock. And on a lot of apps that kind of track what you watch, it's number one. Or it's definitely in the top five. 01:24:13 Speaker 2: It's number one on Peacock. 01:24:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they ain't got a lot of shit anyways. 01:24:18 Speaker 3: But outside of that, you know, it seems to be in terms of rating and people watching people didn't watch. 01:24:24 Speaker 1: I don't know if people liking it. I'm mad. We got Peacock just to watch this because I was excited for this show. Walmart pay for my streaming. You get the plus they pay, you get a free streaming thing and it's cheaper. Walmart had streaming. No, they'll pay for your stream. Like, yeah. 01:24:43 Speaker 3: So if you get the Walmart plus description, you get a choice of Paramount plus Peacock. And then I think it may be one other. Um, Walmart plus, but Peacock went up on their price for a whole year. It's like 120 some dollars. 01:24:57 Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck that. 01:24:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:24:58 Speaker 1: There's not enough good shit to pay. 01:24:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:24:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. And this didn't fucking sell it. So no, no, I still didn't dislike it. I would watch season two, but just because I like horror shit, but not because I'm fucking stoked to get to it, but it wasn't bad. I didn't hate it. I just thought the last two episodes jumped the shark and shit the bed. That's, that's just how I feel. But, um, Quick going around the room, any final thoughts and would you watch season two, Spike? 01:25:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd watch season two because, again, I didn't hate it and I'm a fan of the series. I'd be interested to see where they went with it, even with the piss poor ending. 01:25:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd watch season two. Yeah, yeah. All right. 01:25:37 Speaker 3: No? 01:25:38 Speaker 4: All right. 01:25:40 Speaker 2: It was just too much bullshit. I don't know. I feel like if I'm going to invest in it, I got to feel, at least with Carrie, I'm like, okay, so what happened? here i'm just kind of like all y'all need to die yeah like i just i i would i and. 01:25:58 Speaker 3: No season two for you no damn they redid the scene when they and uh claudette and them. 01:26:05 Speaker 2: Yeah they did that part too. 01:26:07 Speaker 3: When they're in their um like in the in the other one when they were kind of in their plan to They open. 01:26:14 Speaker 2: Up the movie when they sing in by the campfire. 01:26:16 Speaker 1: Sing in by the campfire and stuff like that. They did that. 01:26:19 Speaker 2: Fireplace. 01:26:20 Speaker 1: Fireplace, yeah. They did the fireplace scene in Crystal Lake, too. 01:26:24 Speaker 2: But they give you more exposition. 01:26:26 Speaker 1: That's before they got killed. Yeah. Like right when they walked to the barn to have sex. 01:26:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:26:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:26:30 Speaker 2: All singing in by the fireplace. 01:26:32 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 01:26:33 Speaker 2: That part, they reshot it. 01:26:34 Speaker 1: That scene was from the movie? Yeah. Oh, I don't remember. 01:26:38 Speaker 2: That's because it's at the beginning of the movie. 01:26:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, early in the beginning of the movie. I just don't know why they did that. 01:26:45 Speaker 2: Like I said, they did shot for shot a lot of the shit and then just tried to expound upon it. If you're watching the movie, you're like, who the fuck is this girl that he supposedly was talking to and this, that, and the third? But then when you watch the show, you're like, oh, it's the hippie girl. 01:27:00 Speaker 1: And where did Grace go? That's what I was saying earlier. 01:27:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:27:04 Speaker 1: They just acted like that wasn't a thing anymore. She ran the fuck away. The last we saw her, she was at the hospital. 01:27:10 Speaker 2: Niggas give her drugs. They wouldn't fuck her. 01:27:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. They left her hot and bothered and high. Hot, high, and bothered. The last time we saw her, she was at the hospital and Pam was telling her to just act like you don't know anything. And that was it. And they never revisited. Grace at all. She's a killer, too. She's a killer, too. 01:27:31 Speaker 2: She's absolutely a killer. 01:27:32 Speaker 1: So they're going to bring that back in season two. We have to find out what happened to Lee. 01:27:36 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:27:38 Speaker 1: You know, it's just... Yeah, I don't know, man. It just turned into a weird show at the end. Yeah. But yeah, so that's our review. Thank you, Shai, for coming through and sitting with us since one of our crew members didn't watch the show. 01:27:51 Speaker 3: And yeah. 01:27:53 Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me. 01:27:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We will definitely... hopefully be seeing you again and um yeah that's gonna do it for this review hopefully y'all enjoyed it make sure you share it with a friend or six and we'll see y'all next time we out