บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ A Different World

up with the Cosby's. 00:03:05 Speaker 2: Of course, I think the Cosby's show is one of those shows that even if it wasn't a black family, it was just that popular. You just were aware of it, but the fact that it was a black family, it kind of Made you look at it at the time when he wasn't seeing shit like that. And I didn't even know about A Different World until I got older, like high school. I want to say high school, late high school, early college. And once I watched it, because I watched it in random episodes. It wasn't like I watched it really in chronological order. But I still was able to understand the transitions from now. The first season was with Marissa Tomei. To how everything kind of got revamped a little bit moving forward and focused not off of Denise Huxtable, but Dwayne Wayne. And then how they grew up and then became more of like older adults. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: And then they brought in Jada Pinker in them. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: It was just like I ended up eventually basically kind of putting the puzzles together and figuring out what it was. 00:04:02 Speaker 5: I think this show is better than Cosby's show. I think this show hits. 00:04:07 Speaker 2: I can't imagine watching it in real time, especially when you get to Tupac being on the show. One of my favorite episodes is the Gladys Knight episode because I just love that Love of a Boy song they did. But I just feel like this show just hits harder for what the themes that the Cosby show wanted to get to during the latter part when they brought in Erica Alexander. 00:04:34 Speaker 3: When she played the cousin and stuff like that. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: And they were trying to get more into the hip hop. Like you could tell Cosby didn't want to do hip hop. So he just said jazz. So like, I feel like that's what they were trying to reach though too. I feel like a different world came at a point and just like really showcase like what the nineties that I grew up was about more than the Cosby show, even though that was a great show about a black family. I think this is shows about black culture. I think that's what it was. It was just more about like, what, what do black people do? do and deal with in America. So hearing about the reboot, I'm like, it will never live up to that. 00:05:10 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I started off knowing. I was like, this ain't going to be that. I already know it. I love Debbie Allen. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: I love everybody who was a part of the original cast, but that was lightning in the bottle. You're not going to recapture that, but I like the attempt of at least trying. So going into this, I got to get y'all overall thoughts. What did y'all think about A Different World 2026? 00:05:29 Speaker 4: You go, Ken. Go, Ken. this show was god awful. 00:05:45 Speaker 3: Don't do that don't do that don't do that. 00:05:49 Speaker 1: I'm sorry man like this shit was pathetic like they should have just called it something else bro like it was it's so bad and and Like

there's friends, there's a friend of the family that watched the show and they liked it and they said it was good. And they said there was some things that they didn't, they didn't like and stuff like that. But when I started watching, I was like, how am I going to get through this? Cause I just started yesterday and I'm glad you told me it was like 30 minutes, 20 some minutes episode. Um, but this, this didn't even come close, close to the original, uh, a different world. 00:06:30 Speaker 4: It wasn't even... It was nowhere near. 00:06:33 Speaker 1: It didn't even touch. It didn't capture any of the vibe, the essence, or anything. There's nothing on this show that made me want to go to an HBCU. 00:06:41 Speaker 3: Nothing. 00:06:45 Speaker 4: Nah, man. I don't know what they were thinking when they did this. I get it. It's IP, so let's try to capture it and stuff like that. 00:06:52 Speaker 1: I did have some questions that depending on what you asked, we'll get into later, but the actors couldn't act. The writing was terrible. It was very, very predictable. You know, it wasn't really any drama. It was like, it was like, it was, it was, it was really a episode filled with a bunch of participation trophies for shit. 00:07:18 Speaker 4: Everything fucking worked out. Everything fucking worked out. 00:07:21 Speaker 1: So a show like watching this show kind of made sense with some of the way the generation is today. 00:07:27 Speaker 4: Like, Everything's going to be fine, bro. Don't worry about it. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: I don't do that now. You do a lot. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: It was just like... Yeah, it was pathetic, bro. I don't know how people like this show. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: There's a thing that you said that made me really think about it and reflect, but I feel like the anticipation for this was going to be stronger than the reality of it. 00:07:57 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? 00:07:58 Speaker 2: Like, again, like I was saying, it's lightning in the bottle. You can't recapture that. There's only been a few shows that have like insecure, like trying to do a reboot of insecure 20 years from now is going to be like, nah, this ain't that. 00:08:10 Speaker 3: Or Atlanta 30 years from now. You know what I'm saying? 00:08:12 Speaker 2: It's just like, it's just lightning in the bottle. You just had to be there and kind of understand and experience it. But to me, Jay, the issue that I, the only issue I would have, because I love the fact that this show is here and it's not that bad, kid. It's just that it's not that great. That's all it is. It's like, it's not that bad. I'm saying like, it's not going to be, you can't compare it to the original show or even thinking it's going to be touching that. So if you're always doing it, there's going to be a huge gap, but it ain't bad. It's not trash. It's just that this just seems like, Jay, did you watch the Dear White People show on Netflix? 00:08:47 Speaker 4: I did. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: To me, it's just like, y'all basically just did Dear White People, but just made it an HBCU instead of PWI. Cause it just, it just didn't feel like, I don't know if it's just the nostalgia of the nineties, but I'm just thinking like a different world had its own character to it to where it was like, you're watching characters go through their day. Like you mentioned, Ken, the thing that stood out to me, he was like, this did not make me want to go to HBCU. Why is the first few episodes about how hard it is to be at an HBCU as a black student? Like you talking about finding like money. I can't get no money for it. 00:09:19 Speaker 3: I'm unorganized. I can't even get a room. Like I get that. 00:09:23 Speaker 2: That is, that can be a part of the experience and i'm gonna get up jay i know you probably heard some of your friends go some similar shit i have ken you may have too but save that for season two like or like let's can you establish the love for the show first like they are they talking about how much they kind of like him is just fucked up they got uh what's the black woman's name who's a legend um they kicked around they said she was embezzling. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: And shit uh I ain't like that shit. 00:09:55 Speaker 2: I'm just like, bro, why are you making Hillman look like this? 00:09:59 Speaker 3: Were they broke, Ken? The way, the way... That nigga said a hundred... Nick, a hundred million. In debt. 00:10:09 Speaker 1: $ 100 million. 00:10:12 Speaker 2: You got to get $ 100 million and $ 1 to get to be in the ring. 00:10:17 Speaker 3: They ain't got no money. They couldn't go with a low number, bro. They couldn't go like be $ 10 million in debt. Them niggas said $ 100 million. They threw a nasty number. 00:10:28 Speaker 1: Insurmountable and somehow it managed to work out. And that's another issue I have with the show. It worked out for everybody. 00:10:37 Speaker 4: But those... and what you're talking about is another issue I have with the. 00:10:40 Speaker 1: Show is like, like those are real issues that happens, but they threw in, it's like every single thing they could find on black Twitter that people were talking about. We just going to dump it in the show and, and we're just going to put it in here and pack it in here. 00:10:55 Speaker 4: And, and it is going to be what it is. 00:10:57 Speaker 1: And it's just like, when I'm watching this, some of the writing and some of the dialogue, I mean, shit. I'm like, man, hell, Could A.I. have been any worse? 00:11:09 Speaker 4: Like, shit. I ain't do all that. That's all I'm saying. 00:11:12 Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying, Jay. 00:11:15 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. I got to put, like, you cannot like the show, but you can't say it's trash, kid. 00:11:21 Speaker 4: Come on. I guess I can. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: You ain't ask me how I feel about it. 00:11:24 Speaker 1: I have to be honest. And, you know, it seemed like it was written by A.I. They were talking about the shit in the show, Nick.

They acknowledged it as this. 00:11:33 Speaker 5: It's too bad. Jay, how you feel about it? Nick, I got a question for you. 00:11:39 Speaker 4: All right, God. 00:11:40 Speaker 3: I don't even like your questions. I never like your questions, by the way. How you feel about Grown-ish? 00:11:53 Speaker 2: Grown-ish is B minus, what's it, Black-ish? C plus Black-ish, if I'm being honest. 00:12:02 Speaker 3: Then this is a D. with a Netflix budget. That's all it is. 00:12:09 Speaker 5: They had music that I knew that I fuck with, but it didn't make sense when some of the songs were being played. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: I was like, why this song playing? Y'all just giving niggas checks. 00:12:18 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm happy y'all giving niggas checks, but it makes no sense for these songs to be here. 00:12:22 Speaker 2: Real talk, I had to Shazam some of them songs. I was like, hey, they got a nice playlist on them. 00:12:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew a good amount of them. 00:12:29 Speaker 5: I was like, this is good music, but at the same time, it don't belong here. Why is this here? Like, That was an issue for me, bro. You can't do this format in 30 minutes, 10 minutes, I mean 10 episodes, bro. Every storyline was rushed. You want me to feel something, but it's rushed. Like, it made no sense. Because even with the, when you think about a different world, like, storylines, of course, they went over different episodes. So they're trying to have those same type of episodes and those type of, like, feels at the end of each episode. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: But you rushing it, bro. There's no character. 00:13:08 Speaker 5: Like, I have no investment into these characters. And it was just very much blah. There's some interesting things here that they used as, like, seeds. But it's like, y'all are rushing all this. You can't do this in... Maybe if the episodes were an hour long. But you can't do it because of the difference. You know what I'm saying? 00:13:28 Speaker 3: Like, it was just... Yeah, because the original was only half an hour episodes. And that's the thing. 00:13:33 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was because of the nostalgia. And the woman's name, I should never forget her name, Jennifer Lewis. They made Jennifer Lewis look crazy in this. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: But I. 00:13:44 Speaker 2: Don't know what it is about how 30-minute TV shows are now. 00:13:49 Speaker 3: But you're right, Jay. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: They're either written as to be rushed. and maybe that's because, you know, some of this shit is real, especially with Netflix. They always talk. I think Ben Affleck talked about this. He was like, we have to keep introducing the plot and things because we know people are watching shit on their phones or they're on their phone while watching it. It's just like, I definitely will. So I feel like that goes with like how the, how certain stories are told. Now there's not time for you to be like, we're just going to kick it with this. It's not going to be

like Game of Thrones where they kick, we kicked it with, um, uh, what was her name? Um, the main, the woman who got, shit. Basically, we kicked it with a character for a full episode where we were just in their perspective, in their world, no pun intended. But like, I feel like now it was like we had to, oh, let's cut to this character for five seconds. Let's cut to this character for a minute. 00:14:43 Speaker 3: Let's cut to this character. 00:14:44 Speaker 2: And then while we're cutting to these characters, this covers us in this demographic of the Black community. This covers us in this demographic for the Black community. 00:14:52 Speaker 5: Oh, this is going on in current events and we need to let y'all be aware of this in current events. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: And it's just like, it wasn't like, Bruh, like, you don't have to... That's what I'm saying. And maybe that's because they didn't know they was going to get a second season. Because I saw the promotion that they... They was dancing to Submotion, kid. 00:15:07 Speaker 3: I was seeing the video where they found out they got great lip for season two. It was like, they were just. 00:15:11 Speaker 2: I feel like they were just like, let's make sure we throw everything against the wall. So if they do cancel us, we can say, you don't like black shows. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: The way they ended this, they knew they were swinging for a second season. They will swing it. Of course they will swing it. That's what I'm saying. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: That's why we have so many plot lines that you can go through in the second season. It's kind of like what Lou always talks about. He was like, bro, why are you queuing me up for season two when you haven't even finished season one? Like you said, Jay, I fuck with Deborah because she's Dwayne's kid. It's either like, if you're going to do a reboot, either do a continuation, like we pick up right where Dwayne Wade and them left off, or we just like, We can't have them be that heavily focused in the show because their storyline was way more interesting than what the kids was going through. 00:16:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: If I'm keeping it a bean can, I want to know why Whitley and Dwayne's marriage ain't working. 00:16:08 Speaker 3: When Byron came through, you know, Papa Joe, bro. Papa Joe. 00:16:14 Speaker 2: When his shoulders start shaking, he be cussing somebody out. 00:16:20 Speaker 5: But that's because you have an attachment to those... you got an attachment to the character, those characters. 00:16:26 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 00:16:27 Speaker 5: They didn't give us enough time to have an investment in these characters. Even when I first started watching A Different World, I didn't have any attachment to any of the characters. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: It took a season. 00:16:36 Speaker 5: Over the season, you like to care about the characters. But they had like 20 episodes back then, too. 00:16:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also had Denise. You know what I'm saying? Denise was the driving... You knew Denise from The. 00:16:47 Speaker 5: Cosby Show, so you were attached to Denise, and then these other characters branched out from around Denise. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: That's why you like. 00:16:53 Speaker 5: Dwayne, because Dwayne was crushing on Denise, and then... You know what I'm saying? All these little other pieces that allowed you to do that. They did the opposite. I'm supposed to care about these kids. I don't give a fuck about these kids and y'all ain't giving me enough time to give a fuck about them. 00:17:06 Speaker 3: But I do care about what's going on with Whitley and Dwayne. 00:17:09 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it. 00:17:13 Speaker 2: The premiere episode sets up Deborah Wayne following the footsteps of Dwayne Wade and Whitley as she's battling against her parents' massive reputation in while trying to discover her own identity at Hillman College. 00:17:27 Speaker 4: Give me a second. 00:17:29 Speaker 3: You can keep going. But, okay, let's start with Deborah. 00:17:35 Speaker 2: Okay, she came to Hillman, won the Fresh Start, and then immediately hits the ground running with, you know, going against the system, cussing out everybody. We may have already answered this, but how well do you think the show balanced the original nostalgia with establishing the board as her own standalone character? 00:18:01 Speaker 4: Um, Hmm. 00:18:05 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think watching the first episode and, and seeing her on, on the screen, um, the shit was so corny because they gave her the Wayne Wayne's glasses and, And I can't recall in the first episode. I don't even think we saw him the rest of the damn series. Just so they'll know. So let us know that that's who she is. And then she also had Whitney's like personality of privilege and all this other stuff. 00:18:39 Speaker 4: But the the the issue is it just felt forced and. 00:18:45 Speaker 1: And she didn't really give me Whitney vibes in the way that Whitney did. Whitney, she knew she was better than everybody else, and she didn't hesitate to tell you. And here, it just felt like she had the power and the wealth, but she didn't really flaunt it in the way that Whitney did for whatever reason. In terms of her character, even the relationship she had with Shaquille and everything that came with it, all this stuff felt very, very, very forced. And I didn't like her. There wasn't really anything that she had from a personality or a character standpoint that made me care about anything that she went through. Because they didn't really do a good job of giving us any sort of information to make us even care about What the fuck happened with her and Shaquille? How's her relationship with the parents that's going through that situation? 00:19:46 Speaker 4: Any of that stuff. 00:19:46 Speaker 1: They just wanted to get her on this campus in this first episode. and make her a firecracker and a shit

starter. 00:19:53 Speaker 4: And that was it. And she's going to have to deal with that and overcome that adversity. 00:19:57 Speaker 3: What do you think about Deborah? I think she was an okay character. I don't think it was a. 00:20:10 Speaker 5: A terrible execution on what her character was supposed to be. I think what they were doing with the character over like the season, like it made sense. I like how they like use this importance of Dwayne and Whitley to put this pressure on her. I just didn't care to, I wasn't attached to it. I didn't care about what she was going through. Like, like Ken's point, they use the glasses for one episode. It's not like, and it didn't make sense. Like, it wasn't like she was a daddy's girl or why she had the glasses. It was just for us as the, the, what the viewers to be like, Oh, she wearing the glasses that her daddy wear or it was like, what was the point of doing that? 00:20:55 Speaker 3: It wasn't, if you were to use it. 00:20:56 Speaker 5: It wasn't used as a piece to like attach us to be like, Oh, she's really attached to her dad. 00:21:01 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? And then use that as a piece throughout the rest of the season. It was a, It was, yeah. 00:21:09 Speaker 5: Her as a character, yes, it makes sense that she's like that because of her parents, but they didn't really do much with her. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: It was just, she's an okay character. Yeah. This show is not that bad. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: So I did, I think her character grew on me as, the character grew on me as. 00:21:29 Speaker 4: It went on. I'm sorry. 00:21:33 Speaker 2: I'm ready for all the questions you got any comment you got I'm saying this the character does grow on you I think she is the out from the kids the best actor out of the bunch and I think especially when we got to the later half when her that ain't a hot bar neither by the way it's something but can you what's the nigga name that she was messing with. 00:21:57 Speaker 4: Shaquille Shaquille yeah. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: Once they started really getting into that, I think her acting got, I think she showed the, that's when she separated herself from the cast. But to your point, Ken, like it, I was also curious more about her background in this family. 00:22:16 Speaker 3: Cause like, she's the youngest, you know what I'm saying? 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Like, and we find that out just through, you know, through someone telling us, but like, we don't get to see the rest of the kids that Dwayne and Whitley have. So we only get to see her. And she's the youngest and she feels like she's the runt of them. She's the one that isn't as talented or hasn't lived up. I think she mentions that through naming what her siblings did. But I also feel like because of that, she is going to put herself and her personality explains why she puts herself in certain situations. She's always been trying to stand out in some kind of way or trying to help or be useful. And I think that's when we see her with that storyline with Jennifer Lewis, his character where she's saying like, where's the money at? Even though she got money, she trying to fight for her friends or colleagues who are broke, who we find out her roommate is the real, um, what's her name? 00:23:10 Speaker 3: Uh, Tashina Arnold's daughter, which I thought was interesting. 00:23:14 Speaker 4: Uh, Oh yeah. 00:23:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:23:15 Speaker 3: That's her actual daughter. I had to make sure to look it up. Cause I'm like mentioning, I was like, what? And then I was like, Oh, okay. I guess that makes sense. Cause she played her mom in the show. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: Um, Which is probably the only reason why she was like, I'll be on the show if you put my. 00:23:27 Speaker 3: Daughter in it. 00:23:29 Speaker 4: I thought that was her at the end. 00:23:31 Speaker 3: But I think that, I. 00:23:35 Speaker 2: Don't know, I just find things with, again, we know they're going to be in the season two. I think that things are going to be very interesting for her moving forward. I don't think she was that bad. I do agree she got better. Either she got better or I became numb. I don't know which one it is. 00:24:01 Speaker 5: You would love to have more content from Frames Per Second? Become a patron where you can contribute to what we review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power to nominate and vote a monthly discussion and film review, while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from each cast member. You also get the opportunity to vote on the publicly released anniversary film, all exclusive to our Patreon. So become a patron at patreon.com frames per second, where there are. 00:24:28 Speaker 3: Two tiers you can choose from. That's patreon.com forward slash frames per second. Okay, so let's. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Get into it. So we established the group. You want to start with the roommate? Did you care about her roommate? 00:24:53 Speaker 1: I think Rashida may have been the character I liked the most. It's between her or Amir over the course of the season. I'm undecided. You know, judging the show on its own, because I had to, it's hard because they have so many different world characters in here. 00:25:16 Speaker 4: To separate it from a different world. 00:25:19 Speaker 1: Um, because I did watch, uh, dear white people and it's, it's not that great either, but as the show went on, I'm like, okay, this is just a different white people. 00:25:27 Speaker 4: This is just rap shit. If it was at an HBCU. Yeah. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: You under, once you understand the show, you can, uh, just expectations. 00:25:37 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, um, so, and, and. 00:25:42 Speaker 1: So watching her, I think her, I think over time, I think I came to enjoy her the most out of the other one. Because it felt like they were really trying to force Deborah's character onto us as a viewer. Because she's the child of two of the popular characters from the show. But

some of the other ones I found to be more interesting than her. And I think Rashida, by the time it ended, was one of the ones that I ended up liking. 00:26:19 Speaker 3: I had, like, none of these. You ain't like the African dude? What was his name? 00:26:25 Speaker 4: Amir? 00:26:25 Speaker 2: Kofi. 00:26:26 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Kofi, Shakir, Rashida. Who was the Christian woman? 00:26:33 Speaker 4: Hazel. Hazel. Yeah, Hazel. 00:26:35 Speaker 3: Oof. I didn't care about none of these kids, bro. 00:26:38 Speaker 4: Holy ass. 00:26:40 Speaker 3: I didn't give a fuck about none of these kids, bro. Y'all are tough critics, bro. 00:26:44 Speaker 4: I swear. 00:26:46 Speaker 5: I didn't give a fuck. These storylines, too, were... I didn't even like their friendship, bro. 00:26:57 Speaker 3: Which ones? 00:26:57 Speaker 5: The girly pops. I ain't like that shit. It felt so inauthentic. And maybe that goes to their bad acting, though. 00:27:07 Speaker 3: Because it was just like, I can't. I just can't. 00:27:11 Speaker 5: Nick, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. I was struggling, bro. When I originally asked you to review this, I'm dead ass. And listen, I don't want to shit on black people, but I. 00:27:23 Speaker 3: Want to just be honest, bro, because it's okay. You know why it's okay? Because we can, like Mike said, we can have bad shit. And this is bad shit. It's okay. By the time we got to episode four, bro, I literally would have texted you and be like, nigga, I don't want to review this no more. 00:27:40 Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, as a black podcast, we got to. Like you said, good, bad, or ugly, we got to talk about it. But I'm trying to tell y'all, it ain't ugly and it ain't that bad. 00:27:52 Speaker 3: I think it's just like, it's like Hennessy, Ken. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: It gets better over time. 00:27:59 Speaker 4: Bro, I don't even treat Hennessy anymore. 00:28:04 Speaker 3: That is crazy. You don't watch A Different World anymore either. So you watch this over Grown-ish? 00:28:10 Speaker 2: Yeah i'll watch this uh what era what era of grown is what era of grown is not the one with the brother the one with the sister yeah y'all are the original run that's what i'm saying bro it's really just a wash it really is not that much different in my opinion um when it comes to storyline and interest it just seems like they always honestly i think they probably tackled care uh college character arcs better than this because like they had more episodes and the episode wasn't even that much longer it was a what maybe what 12 to 15 a season or something like that that's what I'm saying it's still better though but yeah it just but that's because we already had we knew who Yara was before she got there so it's just kind of like you didn't have to establish too much character but I don't know I guess moving on we'll get back to the kids later because there's some shit of course we got to talk about with them but going back to my other point I feel like The underrated part of this show, the show that didn't get utilized too much, and hopefully it will this upcoming season, is Dwayne and Whitley's relationship and what they were going through. Jay, how did you feel about seeing Dwayne and Whitley's marriage in crisis, and did it add good drama or ruin their fairytale ending from the original series? 00:29:26 Speaker 3: No, I think it's authentic. 00:29:27 Speaker 5: I think it's authentic because it's not even a thing of saying they can't be together. 00:29:32 Speaker 3: It's a thing like they're struggling to be together, which I... get because they're very much different. 00:29:41 Speaker 5: We're happy they're together because obviously they went through all the shit they went through. I would 100% understand why they would be struggling through their relationship. I don't think it added drama. 00:29:55 Speaker 3: As per se. 00:29:55 Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I'm at the end of my seat to try to figure out what's next because The dialogue was bad, too. Like the dialogue was very much in your face. It didn't give me any intrigue as far as like. It was it was like if my homeboy wanted to write this show, like the dialogue wasn't anything on top of. So like I wasn't really dying to hear what was next, because you kind of like feel the steps happening as they were talking. But it was something I was more interested in than everything else. 00:30:34 Speaker 3: What about you, Cam? 00:30:41 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they did it. I know we had a whole conversation with them later to explain their disconnect to what Jalen is saying. It makes sense that if anybody was going to have some issues throughout their marriage, it would be the two of them. Because that's kind of what they've kind of always been through. But, you know, and I do feel like that is sort of a thing that happens. You know, there'll be bumps in the road and stuff like that, you know, in certain relationships. But it's also, we just wanted to create some additional drama and tension for the two people that people will probably connect to the most that watched the original show. And it will be a place that we're somewhat familiar with. 00:31:27 Speaker 4: So it was almost just like a writing tool. 00:31:32 Speaker 3: Again, I thought this was the best part of the series. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: I saw how they were trying to be clever with it as far as mixing and weaving in the drama of the past with the present. But, I mean, when you got Byron coming back, when you bring back Jada Pinkett, and then you leave us on the cliffhanger of Denise Huxtable on the other line. 00:31:54 Speaker 3: It's just like, That's the shit where it's like, all right, bro. 00:31:57 Speaker 2: Honestly, an adult version, if they gave us, what was it, the best man chapters version of A Different World, and if we actually get Lisa Bonet back here and talk some shit, it's like, hold on, fuck the kids, like Bernie Max said.

Let's get with the shit. Let's really dive in this bag of writing. Debbie Allen, I know you look at the writer's room, see what you can cook up, because I am just. 00:32:25 Speaker 3: Again, those characters are still strong to this day. Again, the kids are fine. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: Now, if they did a crazy segue, Ken, and just focused on the adults for season two, like you get the kids season one and adults season two, I think that would be brilliant, but they're not going to do that. 00:32:41 Speaker 3: I just want to learn more. I love how they ended. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying, Ken, the way they ended this season, I'm like, I'm coming back for second season. I got to see if they get Denise Hudson. if they just do us with that little phone call bullshit where we don't hear shit on the other line and he talked to her and she just, and then Whitney's just going to be upset about him just even talking to her and not her actually being there. 00:32:59 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, y'all played. 00:33:00 Speaker 4: In my face. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: But, um, as we speed up, uh, through this, because we're just going to talk about the main topics of this, uh, first season. I can't get into everything, but as the semester, uh, picks up speed, uh, jay cuffing season it's a you know say we shooting this october uh 12th 2026 i don't know usually i say the start of cuffing season starts after uh labor day but um today's you know no time like the present they talk about cuffing season a lot in this in this first season uh where as you know there's a tense academic stress because of the you know they still in school and then um they got unexpected nights out with the you know the older generation uh Jay, what did you think about the relationship hookup dynamic with the group? 00:33:52 Speaker 4: Nick. 00:33:54 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do a show, kid. He keeps trying to. 00:34:03 Speaker 2: He keeps trying to just. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: No, I'll answer the question. Man, that shit was corny, bruh. Matter of fact, that is the epitome of this show. 00:34:15 Speaker 4: Shit is corny, bro. 00:34:17 Speaker 3: All this shit is corny. 00:34:20 Speaker 5: They're in the dormitory lounge talking about it's cuffing season, Nick. They're saying it out. They're having a meeting about cuffing. 00:34:30 Speaker 3: Season, Nick. 00:34:32 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:34:34 Speaker 1: Nick. 00:34:34 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:34:35 Speaker 3: They're having a meeting about it being cuffing season. And they're talking to each other, asking, who you going to cuff? Nigga, where? Who does this? nah Nick don't be quiet this. 00:34:48 Speaker 2: Show it don't happen who does this they trying to peep if black people if they're aware they just trying to peep if they're I think it's again this is a show for black people looking at black people with like from the outside looking in you. 00:35:04 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying that's not what a different world is supposed to be though.

00:35:08 Speaker 2: It kind of was though it kind of was though back then that's all I was talking about it was like it was a lot about like. 00:35:13 Speaker 4: There's no announcement Nick it's no announcement I know that doesn't happen it just happens And then maybe it's discussed after the fact. 00:35:20 Speaker 3: You might sit with your homies and be like, bro, man, it's getting cold, man. 00:35:22 Speaker 5: I want something like this. It's that time of year. It's that season. You ain't going to say, man, it's cuffing season, man. Who y'all about to cuff? Who you thinking about cuffing? Who you about to be booed? 00:35:31 Speaker 3: No, nigga, that don't happen. It's TV, Jay. 00:35:36 Speaker 2: It's not a play-by-play. Of course, the game meant to be sold, not told. That's the thing. I get that. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, Yeah, nigga. Go ahead. 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Let's get to the mess, Cam. That's what we're here for. I'm not going to get y'all in the storyline. 00:35:56 Speaker 3: Let's get to the mess. 00:35:57 Speaker 5: Before you do that, even outside of that, Nick, how many niggas you know burning, telling everybody in the dorm they burning? 00:36:05 Speaker 3: Hopefully a couple more. 00:36:06 Speaker 4: Oh, that was so bad. 00:36:08 Speaker 3: Niggas was like, what's going on? They burning. Nigga, what? What? 00:36:17 Speaker 2: You would hope someone would say that, though, Jay. I think they're trying to just go off of... If somebody burning, of course, don't keep it a secret if it can spread. 00:36:26 Speaker 4: Oh, God. 00:36:28 Speaker 1: See, this shit make y'all look bad, bro. This shit make y'all look bad because I'm watching this shit. I'm like, well, maybe that's how they are nowadays. I understand that I'm kind of like the adults. 00:36:41 Speaker 4: On the show. So I get it. 00:36:43 Speaker 1: So stuff happening on the show, I was like, man, you know, maybe I'm not supposed to get it. 00:36:47 Speaker 4: That's why I was. 00:36:47 Speaker 1: Looking interested in talking about the show with you guys. Cause I'm like, maybe you guys put me on, you know, put me on game about some shit that's happening. 00:36:54 Speaker 4: That changed. Every generation has their own shit. 00:36:58 Speaker 3: Nah, I can't. 00:36:59 Speaker 4: Nah, this ain't a thing. I don't know what y'all doing these days, bro. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: If anything, we definitely keeping it to the chest. These days, niggas ain't telling nobody shit until it's too late. 00:37:14 Speaker 1: I thought we were, you know, it's a generation of opency and transparency. 00:37:18 Speaker 4: Nah, ain't shit open. 00:37:20 Speaker 3: Ain't shit open. Shit closed. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: My thing is, of course, again, these episodes are meant to just be like random PSAs for the young generation. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: Get tested. 00:37:38 Speaker 2: You know be responsible when having sex know what consent is like they just trying to do the the again we did these episodes in the 90s let's not act like this is foreign ken you know you know exactly what i'm talking about they always had a gun episode they always had a if she got pregnant episode uh yeah they always got like uh he had a he beat me yeah like she got a like all that shit like they had these episodes they just don't it did it just look funny because we we older It ain't, it's. 00:38:04 Speaker 3: Not even that. It's the execution of it. Again, nobody's sitting in a lounge talking about something. Yo, it's cuffing season. No, but you do, you do kick it with your homies and you do. 00:38:14 Speaker 5: Talk in a way, there's a way to do dialogue and write this to be like, yo, I'm talking with the homies like, bro, it's that time of the year where it's like. I ain't trying to be cuddled up by myself when it get cold outside. Like it's ways to do this. Like, but to just be like, we going to announce it's cuffing season. So go out and find somebody. No, you can also do the, the, the SCI conversation, but one of the homies get, get an SCI. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: He come to you like, bro, like, I'm having an issue, dog. 00:38:41 Speaker 5: There's ways to do this. 00:38:44 Speaker 3: You got niggas in the lounge, all of them burning, and everybody goes to get... Come on, dog. 00:38:49 Speaker 1: And none of the main characters caught anything. Both of their ass was clean, and she had some yeast infection. Have some consequences, bro. 00:39:00 Speaker 2: Ken, this is what I thought they was getting into. I was like, oh, damn, they going into some Tyler Perry shit. 00:39:06 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:39:07 Speaker 6: That makes it better huh better than what y'all talking about hazel and um amir are really good friends right hazel is the christian uh or preacher's kid i guess uh amir is the um. 00:39:23 Speaker 4: Horny and holy that's what she is horny and fucking holy. 00:39:27 Speaker 3: Horny and holy and amir is just I don't know what to call him. Is he a criminal? Is he a. 00:39:37 Speaker 4: Is he unhoused? 00:39:39 Speaker 3: Is he. 00:39:40 Speaker 1: Oh my God, if I heard unhoused in another episode. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: And we know that he is... He's full with his sexuality, so it's just like... They thought. 00:39:51 Speaker 4: I think he gay. 00:39:54 Speaker 3: These days I give room for like, you can be fluid. You can be women one day, it don't matter. 00:39:59 Speaker 4: He's gay. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: But so he's. 00:40:01 Speaker 2: Gay he's unhoused and he got a criminal background like he got a p.o officer he got a p.o officer in his ass every day and that's what i didn't understand it's like why are you putting the stereotype all these things on this one character like Can't he just be unhousing gay? Does he have to be a criminal too? Why do we have to have the PO officer here? I say all that to say is that's not the main point. Hazel and Amir, they end up becoming cool. And then there's this dude out of nowhere, because Amir know how to

cut hair randomly. 00:40:48 Speaker 3: And the dude is like, oh, is he with Hazel or is. 00:40:51 Speaker 4: He with Amir? 00:40:53 Speaker 2: What did you think about? I forgot Cud's name. What do you think about dude, Amir, Hazel? Oh, that's hilarious. But I thought it was going to get messy as far as like Amir caused something. 00:41:09 Speaker 3: I mean, Hazel caused something because of him messing with Amir. And then I was also upset with how Amir's character was. 00:41:18 Speaker 2: Was saying some of the things to Hazel like, bro, you fucked up. Why are you talking like this? 00:41:25 Speaker 1: That could have been really good because I knew that motherfucker was gay as soon as he came around the corner and got ready to sit in that damn chair. 00:41:33 Speaker 4: And so, hey, Amir did too, Jalen. 00:41:38 Speaker 1: Look, the show told all of us that there was going to be some shit between them. So I was just waiting for it to happen. Because, you know, he gave him a nickname and everything, Mirror Mirror and all his other shit. 00:41:52 Speaker 4: They were cool. 00:41:53 Speaker 1: And then, you know, he hit him with the Paul's line and stuff like that. So it was going to happen, you know. So and and, you know, I mean, he said that, you know, he was trying to figure some shit out, you know, in the hazel, I guess, you know, as they say, it wasn't his beard or whatever. And, you know, so that's cool. But this shit could have been really fucking cool. good with with this old shit could have been really good if if Amir slept with that dude came back and gave her some shit like which is where I thought they were going to that could have been some great ass fucking drama bro. 00:42:27 Speaker 2: Jay are me and Ken off base with like that being like a potential plot point because I thought that was going to be I thought that was going to be a huge conversation because you know people women one of black women's number one fear you know I've talked about my fears on this platform many times one of black women's number one fears is dealing with a download nigga and the repercussions of that. And I was like, is this show that bold to have that conversation or have that played out in this? That's why I said Tyler Perry-ish. But it went in a way that didn't... Like you said... I don't know who said it. All these problems went away. It was all solved at the end of the day. And I was like, Hazel has the most forgiving spirit I've ever seen of a character after going through that shit. 00:43:08 Speaker 3: Am I tripping on that, Jay? Well, one. 00:43:15 Speaker 3: Ken no. 00:43:21 Speaker 5: Two i think i don't think it would have been a great idea to have her catch something from him because he was down low like i don't think that's because it it reinstates even though they do touch it a little bit it just reaffirms like the stereotype of the homophobia that women have, that if a man is having sex with another man, that he's going to catch something.

00:43:48 Speaker 3: So that wouldn't have been the best thing to do. 00:43:51 Speaker 4: She had it. She said he's a real man. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying. She was homophobic. 00:43:56 Speaker 4: Yes, she was. 00:43:57 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 00:43:57 Speaker 5: But they handled it a different way as compared to them saying she caught something. The clout didn't have to be in general. That whole thing of people having... I don't get It was just handled poorly, bro. That was handled poorly. 00:44:12 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. 00:44:13 Speaker 2: To Ken's point, Jay, they went in that direction of homophobia from a Black woman's perspective. And it was just like, you set up the whole situation just not to do it and then to do it in that way. 00:44:24 Speaker 3: It was just like, do you want to do. 00:44:26 Speaker 4: It or not? You know what I'm saying? 00:44:28 Speaker 1: Black women and Christian, it's like, it's so... It's a stereotype. But that's the whole point. The show is a very basic... It's a basic written show. It's very elementary. So when I say as soon as he walks around that corner and they set the scene up and how they're looking at one another, the show is written so poorly, you can see that that's where they're going because they're not clever in doing it in a way that you can't tell that that guy's going to end up being on the down low. 00:45:00 Speaker 5: You're right, but it's one of those negative stereotypes where it reinforces the bad. of like a man like women like so women are used that as an excuse of why they're homophobic for their mate like a man being down low it's not even that you are nervous that you're going to catch something because if a nigga cheat with a woman you can catch something it's homophobic but yeah but it's the homophobia of it all saying oh i will really catch something is if he's with another man they. 00:45:28 Speaker 4: Could have did. 00:45:31 Speaker 1: They could have did the same shit because this whole episode happened after Shaquille slept with Candace. 00:45:37 Speaker 4: So I thought, actually, to your point, I thought his. 00:45:40 Speaker 1: Ass was going to have something. But neither one of them. 00:45:44 Speaker 3: Motherfuckers had shit. 00:45:45 Speaker 2: My whole point is, at least my perspective on it is, I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I see why they went in the direction they did. But to me, to Ken's point, this whole show has been talking about black stereotypes. I pointed out with Amir, like, He has a criminal record. 00:46:01 Speaker 3: Why? Why do we have that in the show? We talked about it early in this review. 00:46:05 Speaker 2: Why are they showing Black HBCUs being broke and dealing with embezzlement and all that other shit? 00:46:14 Speaker 3: They're talking about all things Black as far as stereotypes, Again. 00:46:18 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the African diaspora conversation now that we got Da Vinci quotes out there. They talked about everything, so I'm just like, my only, not issue, but I was just very curious, why did you choose to go with it in this way if you're setting it up like this? Especially since we're talking about all Black stereotypes. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: And real quick, Jalen, to add this to your response, maybe because this is a thing, they could have used this as a way, as a teachable moment to address some of the conversations that do be happening, some of the stereotypes that be happening. 00:46:53 Speaker 2: Same thing with the AIDS thing. Because they did that, remember with the AIDS episode? Dude had a whole do-rag on his face. I was like, I don't want to breathe there. Does she breathe? They were playing on those stereotypes of like, bro, just because you have HIV and all this stuff. 00:47:06 Speaker 4: He said, Mr. 00:47:07 Speaker 2: Gaines said, you're more of a danger to her than she is to you. 00:47:10 Speaker 3: It was a teachable moment. 00:47:11 Speaker 2: And I was just thinking like, if they go for it in the stereotype, like a stereotype way, maybe they can land a plane. 00:47:18 Speaker 3: Like maybe they were building it up to like start off. 00:47:20 Speaker 5: I'm glad it didn't. 00:47:23 Speaker 3: Cause it would have been real. It would have been messy. 00:47:28 Speaker 5: Nah, I think there's a, I think there's a difference in, even though I don't agree or like the stereotypes they did tackle in the way they did it. 00:47:35 Speaker 3: And then there's a difference when you're using a generalization of our rate. 00:47:39 Speaker 5: Like, like it's a race thing for us as compared to like, you're attacking someone sexual because there's still a minority group within the diet, like within our race. Like there's still a minority that's still targeted. And there's a lot of homophobia like rampant throughout the country, but in black, the black community, I think that's a different type of thing as compared to just a overall arch and stereotype. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to touch that in. 00:48:05 Speaker 4: I feel you. 00:48:05 Speaker 1: But if, if, if this show is a black show and about black HBCUs and black culture and conversations, then have the conversations in the show. 00:48:17 Speaker 4: Don't run away from it. 00:48:19 Speaker 3: What conversation they had in the show? 00:48:22 Speaker 4: Oh, they threw a lot of shit. They threw a lot of shit out. 00:48:27 Speaker 3: You know what? 00:48:28 Speaker 1: They didn't have any real conversations in the show, and I think that's also part of the problem. 00:48:32 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: Okay. All right. 00:48:39 Speaker 3: Well, you know. I feel like they've... Because to that point, we get through.... 00:48:45 Speaker 2: Like by episode six when they go out to the club where we see like the uh the original cast but the young cast and then like at the end of that episode they were like we used to do shit too like you know you

should have seen what your mom and daddy did back in the day like what y'all doing y'all going through your own thing just know y'all got us it was just kind of like they kept saying that and i was just like like show us don't tell us like you know what i mean like They harped on this whole scene where it was the poor burned down a school of kittens or something. I don't know what the fuck it is. Something went on fire where she had to leave. And then Shaq was a part of it. And it's just like, okay, you could have showed us that at least a little bit. Or at least have it be more meaningful for them to really be bonded. I feel like they were always trying to make sure like, oh, they were meant to be together, but this happens. 00:49:36 Speaker 3: That's why they broke up. And now they're getting back together. 00:49:39 Speaker 2: It was like, you're telling us about that, but that's why, but because of that, to your point, Jay, they rushing through that story. So by the time we get to their main confidence, like, okay, he can go fuck. He literally went to go fuck somebody else that night. So like, how much did he really mean to it? And, and how much does she mean to him? Cause she was kissing on niggas while they was. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: Trying to be together. So just like, I could, I don't know. I'm trying to, I'm trying to defend it. 00:50:04 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Yeah. 00:50:05 Speaker 3: I didn't give a fuck about their relationship. They're off and on. I didn't give a fuck about that. And all this bullshit, the bullshit, like, you took my virginity and didn't call me. 00:50:15 Speaker 4: I feel good. 00:50:17 Speaker 3: I get it. But it was terrible. The acting was so bad in that part. I was like, okay. Like, I didn't feel anything. I was like, I don't care. Honestly, Nick, they... They didn't go that. 00:50:35 Speaker 5: Carrot early or that something happened between them. But I know when we're young, we don't have the communication. Like, we're not great at communication. Like, they mentioned that briefly. But you got back with this nigga, and that was the reason why y'all had beef and you didn't address this before y'all got back together? 00:50:56 Speaker 3: Y'all waited till y'all broke up again to address it? What sense did that make, Nick? I mean, it's a different world. 00:51:05 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. And the theme song was so corny, too. They should have kept their original theme. 00:51:12 Speaker 1: They were like, we just want to make sure that for people like me that's watching the show, that this is a different world from the one that we watched. 00:51:19 Speaker 4: It was just like, all right, man. But you're right, Jalen. 00:51:22 Speaker 3: Brandy did the intro song. You think they should have got somebody else besides Brandy? I think they should have not. 00:51:29 Speaker 4: Done this shit. 00:51:30 Speaker 3: That's what I think. 00:51:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think to your point, Jalen, about their relationship, they really tried to force like Nick, like you were saying, like. 00:51:41 Speaker 4: They're meant to be and they were made for each other. 00:51:44 Speaker 1: And, you know, he's the hot guy on campus and all this other stuff. 00:51:48 Speaker 4: And and they are so madly in love. 00:51:51 Speaker 1: And then they introduce for them their version of Byron with with Ellington ads. 00:51:56 Speaker 4: And what I always tell you about a nigga with a mustache, bro. 00:52:03 Speaker 2: He was a posh piece of shit. That motherfucker. He over here lying about flowers, Jay. I'm like, nigga. 00:52:18 Speaker 5: If a woman like that is in the middle of your bedroom and she's like, oh, you got these for me? 00:52:21 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I did. 00:52:24 Speaker 4: You know what? 00:52:25 Speaker 3: Let me just say, I can see a nigga. 00:52:27 Speaker 2: Just lying to me like, yeah, I did that shit. Like, but I'm just like, he doubled down on it, Ken. He went to go to Shaq saying like, you a little bitch for snitching on me. 00:52:37 Speaker 3: Pretty much. 00:52:40 Speaker 4: You look almost a B-shit. You fucked nigga. 00:52:45 Speaker 3: Over here snitching, bruh. Like, you fucked up, nigga. You over here fucked, nigga. Like, you didn't let me get my piece. Hey, to keep it a B, Shaq kept saying, he was like, yeah, I did say something, nigga. I'm like, what's up? Hey, at least he kept it a B. He ain't lying about it. Yeah. 00:53:06 Speaker 4: I respect Ellington. 00:53:07 Speaker 1: I was like, hey man, why the fuck you doing that shit? Snitching and shit. And by the way, since we snitching... Oh yeah, I know, nigga. 00:53:16 Speaker 3: I know what you're doing. I literally know who you fucked last night. 00:53:20 Speaker 4: Fuck boy. He wasn't smooth, though. I ain't gonna lie. Ellington was smooth with it, though. Yeah, I. 00:53:28 Speaker 3: He wasn't smooth. 00:53:29 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I like how they played on he's Denise Huxtable and the other nigga's son. Because they're going to be like, oh, that's why they don't get along and shit like that. 00:53:40 Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought that was funny. 00:53:41 Speaker 2: That was the only good part about the older, again, with the younger generation, like how they... I want to see that situation develop more. But real quick, they tackle, like I mentioned, the African black versus African conversation. 00:53:55 Speaker 4: Horribly. 00:53:56 Speaker 2: I don't even like the fashion show thing because, bro, they had them in the... They had them in the side of the aisle. They didn't even put the niggas on stage until. 00:54:06 Speaker 4: The last one. 00:54:07 Speaker 3: Like, if the clothes was that good, why are they on the stage? They go on the stage for two seconds. But to me, the... Ken, this is what I told y'all. I'm East African. I ain't West African. 00:54:20 Speaker 2: Those are the West African fans that I be talking about. The ones that they be talking shit about y'all the most.

East Africans get. 00:54:30 Speaker 3: Along with black folks for the most part. We understand the struggle. We good with you. West Africans be acting all sadistic and shit. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: But, yeah, I just think this is, like, again, another stereotype of why, like, it adds to more division than bridges. I feel like sometimes certain conversations, let the white folks talk about that shit. Like, if you're going to show an episode about this, like, talk about it in a conversation like this. Talk about it in a way where we actually progressed and not still in the same points that we talked about in the 90s or in the 80s or whatever you want to call it. Like, where we're still talking about us being divided and one side looking down on the other side or both sides looking down on each other. it's like, bro, this could have been a great opportunity to show how much that Africans understand the struggle of Black people in this country and how much they owe Black people in this country when it comes to being able to change your life in one generation by being born here or being in here. Like, you can't do that nowhere else in the world that I've known where a Black man can start off, like, as humble as. 00:55:34 Speaker 3: A LeBron James and end up being a LeBron James. Like, you know what I'm saying? 00:55:40 Speaker 2: So I just feel like Speak on that from that perspective, where we progressed. Not doing the same shit. So that's why I was cool with it. We got to see Kofi stand up for himself. He wanted this black woman. I love the fact that he wanted a dark-skinned black woman, too. The whole time, and he was ten toes on that. If it was fucked up, Ken, it's that she ain't want him. AJ, the whole series, she talked about some, I ain't popping this pussy for nobody who don't love me and who don't really want me. And I can only give up my Virginia to somebody I really care about. 00:56:21 Speaker 4: And she gave it up to an anime nigga, bro. 00:56:26 Speaker 2: A comic book boy. 00:56:32 Speaker 3: Kobe was upset. He found out in the 11th hour. You slept with him? You talked to all that shit. 00:56:43 Speaker 2: You had the Great Walls of China climbing over this motherfucker to get through. And you gave it up to him for what? Because he caught you on the bus? 00:56:55 Speaker 3: It be like that sometimes, though. And he was upset. He said, people. He said, people. He grabbed a bottle, Jay. He grabbed a bottle and a model. And he was out. He had a bad day, though. 00:57:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he should have stayed as a building dick. 00:57:15 Speaker 2: I'm going to roll up on his ass. 00:57:23 Speaker 3: He said, where your papers at, nigga? He stood up straight. 00:57:33 Speaker 2: AJ, you see how he was walking down the sidewalk. 00:57:36 Speaker 3: With the bottle, with the bottle. He was like, that's awesome. 00:57:41 Speaker 2: That nigga said, show me your papers. 00:57:43 Speaker 3: He was like, oh, what's up? 00:57:44 Speaker 4: Hey, I

fuck with. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: This show, kid. It got better towards the end. 00:57:56 Speaker 1: Oh, man, they did. They did Kofu bad, bro. They had to do it like that because he did get better as the show went on. He learned a lot because he was it's like he came to he went on that campus and it's like he all the shit that he thought black Americans did. He was trying to do it in the beginning, you know, in terms of like trying to hit on women and say, oh, yeah, I'm going to get in a dress or whatever kind of corny shit he was saying. To where the girl at the end was like, yeah, you were just a perv or whatever. Or I think even his voice was like, yeah, you went from a perv to being this guy. So you did see this sort of. 00:58:28 Speaker 4: Development of him. 00:58:30 Speaker 1: And I think to the conversation we were having earlier, I think that that conversation or what they were doing in this show, that conversation is still happening. 00:58:42 Speaker 4: And it made sense for the parents. 00:58:44 Speaker 1: To behave the way that they did because I know a few that I can get them on the phone and we can go. I can go over to the house right now and they'll still have those same ideas. But it's like, what is the generation behind it? How are they thinking? Because Kofu was like, they ain't that bad. He said, you only know a couple. You don't even know enough to have this idea. But as soon as he saw Rashida, he was like, what the fuck is her books? 00:59:09 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah. 00:59:10 Speaker 3: Stormed off. Hey, Ken, I kid you not. 00:59:18 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who come from that type of family. And that shit is always hilarious. Because both sides do it. Y'all talk so much shit about Africans and the way that's like there. But when they talk shit about y'all, it be from a factual standpoint that's hilarious but so rude. She's a beautiful woman. You know what I'm saying? His first thing was, fuck all that. 00:59:42 Speaker 3: Where this motherfucker books at? This supposed to be a college. 00:59:45 Speaker 1: Ain't it? 00:59:45 Speaker 3: He was. 00:59:49 Speaker 4: Bro. 00:59:50 Speaker 3: He's right, though. Where was he? 00:59:52 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. 01:00:00 Speaker 3: I felt some way. Remember last year, I hit you up about my situation. I know you did. 01:00:06 Speaker 5: She was like, my parents may have some questions about what you do. 01:00:11 Speaker 3: I was trying to describe this shit here. He was like, Why do you do that? I told you, Jay. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: Again, I grew up with African parents, bro. I even think this is just more like children's of immigrants, second generation. 01:00:27 Speaker 3: The way they ask questions, it hits right direct. We don't... Americans, people, when. 01:00:33 Speaker 2: You watch TV shows, it's so hilarious how we dance around, turn the conversation, whatever. They cut through all that shit. I don't care about all that. The longer you talk, the more bullshit you say. I really cut to all that. 01:00:47 Speaker 3: Why? It reminds me of that interview with the dude. He said, why is you gay? That's how I felt in that moment, too. It's just like, I don't know how to explain that. 01:01:02 Speaker 4: I really don't know. 01:01:04 Speaker 3: I can't have an explanation, bro. Where's her books? 01:01:08 Speaker 4: Damn, bro. 01:01:10 Speaker 3: She working. 01:01:13 Speaker 2: Nah, Jay, the question was, when did you see her? No, she didn't have books because she was, she was, Freddie, shout out to Freddie. 01:01:21 Speaker 4: She was her favorite. 01:01:21 Speaker 3: She was on our shit. No, she was, that one, she was really going on our shit. She's a studious student. 01:01:26 Speaker 5: That's why it was even funnier when he asked, like, where her book, like, nigga, she working. 01:01:30 Speaker 3: But I also understand why you asking that because it's her school, but. Yeah. 01:01:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, that shit was funny. Oh, man. 01:01:37 Speaker 2: But, moving forward, I guess, to kind of wrap this up, I did like the cameos they brought up with as far as like the old cast, even the side characters and stuff like that. I forgot the two women name, but they were like the catty women of the younger generation, the latest generation of. 01:01:57 Speaker 3: The, a different world from back in the day. 01:02:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Dwayne had to call up the, he had to gather up everybody, all the alums for this end of the year gala to raise money and all that shit. 01:02:12 Speaker 3: This is where we see Jada Pinka come back, Ken, and also Byron. 01:02:15 Speaker 2: What did you think about those introductions and how they tied back into the story? 01:02:20 Speaker 1: It's interesting because it kind of took me back to, like, it just reminded me, like. 01:02:25 Speaker 4: Damn, man, they were really good together. 01:02:28 Speaker 1: You could see the chemistry that they had throughout the years, like, playing out on screen. Even when Shaquille's dad, Ron, when I hit on Freddie, you know, was talking shit to Freddie, like, they had a moment to be back in that world in. 01:02:43 Speaker 4: A different world as adults. 01:02:45 Speaker 1: And I, and I was thinking, I was like, man, kind of to what you were saying earlier, if they kind of slow walk this in and started with the adults, focus on the adults with having kids in college and maybe do like a sort of a hybrid model, 60, 40 or something like that. 01:03:02 Speaker 4: And then handed it over to the kids. 01:03:04 Speaker 1: Like it could have worked because a lot of these guys, these are their first time acting. When I was looking it up, they don't have a lot of acting jobs, you can tell. And that would have gave them some more experience. And then, to what Jalen was saying, we would have became more attached to them and more drawn into their stories. 01:03:22 Speaker 4: But yeah, it was good. 01:03:23 Speaker 1: Seeing them kind of get back

together and kind of bounce off one another. 01:03:30 Speaker 3: Man. 01:03:30 Speaker 4: It was all good. 01:03:34 Speaker 5: This is the epitome of why it's my problem with this show. When Byron went and saw Dwayne and he said, well, I know you ain't too proud to beg, obviously. You know what I'm saying? 01:03:51 Speaker 3: It was a good line. They ruined the line by having Dwayne say, damn, he got me there. He didn't need to say that shit. Why was that even put there, bro? 01:04:00 Speaker 5: It's like y'all have good ideas, good shit, and then you just undercut it with bullshit. 01:04:05 Speaker 3: That's the epitome of the show. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: I thought that was the best line of the series, but I did feel like you undercut it by just acknowledging the fact that it was a good line. 01:04:14 Speaker 3: However, I mean. 01:04:17 Speaker 3: He probably would have said that back then. 01:04:19 Speaker 2: Again, I'm not looking at this show or the old show and Rose Colored Glasses. 01:04:24 Speaker 3: They did a lot of the same. 01:04:25 Speaker 2: If you look at the DNA of A Different World, it's still within the new show. It's just that, like I was saying, for some reason it just hit differently because I guess we just had more, maybe to your point, more seasoned actors by that point in time when they did shit and also... The writing was just a lot more detailed and better because we only are getting per episode, not even Deborah. Deborah's probably getting five, six minutes an episode, and then we get five, six minutes with Rashida, five, six minutes with Amir, five, six minutes with Hazel. By the time you get to the end of the season, you really only got 20, 30. 01:05:05 Speaker 3: Minutes of each person in a different way. 01:05:08 Speaker 2: But I just feel like you're still giving them room to grow. 01:05:13 Speaker 3: But, yeah, they're going to learn a lot from this first season. 01:05:15 Speaker 2: I don't think that this is something that– I think they're hearing everything we're saying. 01:05:20 Speaker 3: I just think they're also happy they got a second season. A lot of people watched it. A lot of people are tuning in. 01:05:25 Speaker 5: They ain't hearing everything we're saying because they think they did good. 01:05:28 Speaker 3: People are talking about it like they did well. I don't see it. But, listen, how Mike always say, kid, I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. Well, go ahead, kid. 01:05:42 Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is, there are people that don't watch TV as critically as I do or we do. 01:05:53 Speaker 4: That do enjoy it. 01:05:55 Speaker 1: I got in trouble watching this shit because I was apparently supposed to watch it with my wife, so I'm going to have to watch it over again. 01:06:01 Speaker 4: But I don't know her thoughts. 01:06:03 Speaker 1: I'm going to pray for you, Ken. 01:06:07 Speaker 4: If I know her, I've. 01:06:08 Speaker 1: Got a pretty good idea of what she'll think. But there are people that are just like, you know what? It has some issues, but I liked it and I really enjoyed it. I think the thing is, it's just like any little thing you can think of that Black Baby should talk about, I have an issue with, they put in the show and that was the issue. And these things really do happen. The bomb threat shit happened. It's the real shit. But it's just so surface level and they don't spend a lot of time with it. And then they throw in stuff just to try to make a moment. And, you know, and, and the jokes don't hit. They can't, they can't even fucking dance in the fucking show. Like the dancing in the background look horrible. That was one part where Whitney and, and, uh, old boy was, uh, and Kadeem were dancing. And when they, when they cut at the gala, when they cut to them, they weren't even dancing for real. 01:07:02 Speaker 4: They were, they, it was just like, they were, they knew their scene was up and they. 01:07:05 Speaker 3: Just turned around. 01:07:05 Speaker 4: Whitney just turned around and started walking. 01:07:07 Speaker 1: But, And then the other thing, I rolled my eyes so hard, and then I had a thought, and it's like, when they did fucking Can We Talk, bro, I wanted to turn this shit off. 01:07:21 Speaker 3: That shit was crazy, bro. 01:07:23 Speaker 4: Can We Talk has. 01:07:24 Speaker 1: I think Can We Talk must be like this generation's Before I Let Go. 01:07:32 Speaker 3: I feel like... Yeah, probably. All I know is. 01:07:36 Speaker 2: Before this show, this has nothing to do with the show. I just hate that song because it's been everybody. I don't want to say like a contrarian, but like everybody loves it to the point where it's like you keep doing it and singing it over and over again. 01:07:48 Speaker 3: It was like, I hate that song because it's now not enjoyable no more. 01:07:52 Speaker 2: Anytime I hear people sing it, it's like, yeah, I know this is a popular song. but I could give a fuck about it. 01:07:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:07:59 Speaker 5: You go to R & B lounges, they always play, you have some event, they are, like, it's that song that everybody wants to, they want to sing along to. 01:08:07 Speaker 4: Now I'm over it. I've been over it for a while now. 01:08:12 Speaker 2: But that's my great, I mean, other people are like yelling at us talking about something. That's my song. I don't fuck with y'all talking about it. That's great for you. I'm just saying, like, I've heard that song to death. 01:08:21 Speaker 1: Oh, I still fuck with it. I still, I can still love the song. I still sing the song when I hear it. It's just like, But I also know it's part of this meme internet culture sort of thing because of the challenge that it had, that Tank did and stuff like that. So they're going to put it in the show because it's a thing that's out there. But it doesn't feel authentic. It feels forced. And that was kind of the thing. So it's just like, come on, man. What are y'all doing? I do hope they get better. I

think they just got fresh new actors that they gave jobs. 01:08:52 Speaker 4: Great. 01:08:52 Speaker 1: I think they got fresh new writers that they hired. that do the writing, the dialogue, and everything else. And, you know, this was their first time doing any of this shit. And we'll see if if they get better. But, you know, it's a step below Dear White People and Dear White People wasn't all that great. 01:09:12 Speaker 4: It was it was a lot of messages in that movie in that show, too. 01:09:15 Speaker 2: They're white people that didn't end too well. It started out really good. It did not end too well at all. 01:09:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were doing a lot too. 01:09:26 Speaker 2: Real quick before we wrap up, the Jasmine Guy discussion of this all, I think that's also what brought a lot of attention to the show about how she looked. Even the cast member, I think Kadeem came out and said, like, what the fuck y'all talking about? Everybody talked about her from Joe Budden to should I listen to the Native Lamb, Angela Ryan, all them Charlamagne and Breakfast Club. 01:09:46 Speaker 3: What did y'all think about that conversation? 01:09:48 Speaker 4: Fuck them. 01:09:51 Speaker 3: It's really that simple. We all age, bro. That's not really here. I think people also... I mean, I don't think... I. 01:10:05 Speaker 5: Think she still looks fine. If I'm being completely honest... I always thought Kimberly was the bad one. 01:10:12 Speaker 3: Kimberly was the one. She had the one with the 2D on the tooth. I didn't say that. I said I thought Kimberly. 01:10:18 Speaker 5: Was the bad one and Freddie. Like, Whitley was still attractive. Like, I'm not saying she wasn't attractive. I'm just saying, like, I always, like, I was more, like, attracted to, like, Freddie and Kimberly. Like, those were the ones that were like, oh, they bad. 01:10:30 Speaker 3: But I don't think she's unattractive now. Like, she just aged. Like, it is what it is. And I also give grace because. 01:10:38 Speaker 3: We ate, like, being light as skin, you know what I'm saying? I was light as skin. I ain't trying to hear all that shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? The only thing I was going to say was. 01:10:52 Speaker 2: You don't go to the internet to feel good. Like, I don't think the internet is meant to be a space to feel good. I think the internet is just meant to be a space to share things. Whatever you want to, you can share it. 01:11:06 Speaker 4: Your opinion. 01:11:08 Speaker 3: Your. 01:11:08 Speaker 2: Food recipes, your twerk videos, your TED Talks, whatever you want. But it's not a place to feel good. So I feel like the internet conversation that they had about it, of course it wasn't going to be nice. Anybody who we remember what you used to look like and we know what you look like now, no one's ever going to be like, this very rarely is a compliment. Because I think back in the day, she was one of the baddest women out. Everybody wanted Whitley. I remember hearing

that conversation. And now I think she's still, like Jay said, I don't think she looks bad. I just think that once you hit a certain age in mass media, we just like, all. 01:11:50 Speaker 3: Right, you're over with. You just move past you. And I think that's what. 01:11:55 Speaker 2: Distracted a lot of people from the show, which is, I think, another reason why I got a lot of attention. 01:12:00 Speaker 3: Because it's like, all right, what are they talking about? What does she look like? Let's go to the show. 01:12:04 Speaker 2: That's why I'm really nervous about season two, because now that that conversation is done, you know what she look like. 01:12:09 Speaker 3: Are y'all going to come back? 01:12:15 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of conversation. I didn't know what they were talking about. I knew that when I started watching the show, I was curious. And then when I started watching, I was like, oh, okay, I see. So I got it as soon as she popped up on screen. And it's shocking to a lot of people that probably hasn't seen her in a very long time. And we remember the old Jasmine guy. I feel so bad for her because that has to be rough on her. You know, and, you know, she's responded as well, but she remembers the heydays. And that's the thing about getting old that I wish there was a lot more discussion about is that, you know, a lot of things change. And, you know, it's hard to, it's sometimes going to be very difficult aging gracefully or not accepting that change. And when I was watching, though, compared to a lot of the other people, I was a little curious and like, you know, she's 64. And it is a very dramatic sort of thing that happened for her. So I was kind of curious. And, you know, I read that she was doing Botox and stuff like that. And I wonder if that has something to do with the outside of just natural aging, you know, just for her to kind of. 01:13:40 Speaker 4: Maintain the beauty that she had. I don't know. 01:13:44 Speaker 1: I think it's fucked up that they're doing it to her. And it's very, very sad. The other thing I noticed, though, Even like Papa Pope, he looked a lot older than he used to. A lot of them guys started to.... 01:14:02 Speaker 4: What's her name? 01:14:05 Speaker 3: Ah, shit. 01:14:05 Speaker 4: She came back. Lena James. 01:14:07 Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett. Yeah, so it's a natural thing that happens. But she was the most shocking out of all of them. But I think a lot of them look good. For the age. Colonel Taylor. Yeah, Colonel Taylor looked good. 01:14:26 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to look the older. Because he was older. It seemed like he was older than everybody at the time. I thought he was going to come back. 01:14:33 Speaker 4: Looking like Mr. 01:14:34 Speaker 3: Burns. 01:14:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, the one that said, I still got it. She looks good. Freddie. Freddie looks good as well. Aging is a thing. 01:14:42 Speaker 1: And I think that people just got to accept that it's going to happen. I think the

people that are talking has to realize that. At some point, that's going to be your motherfucking ass. 01:14:50 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 01:14:51 Speaker 4: That's the thing that a lot of people forget, bro. Like, it's going to happen. 01:14:56 Speaker 1: And watching the show was really a stark reminder of the fact that even myself, I'm old now because I'm looking at a lot of these guys that I grew up watching when the show first debuted in 1987. 01:15:08 Speaker 4: You know, and I was 11, bro. 01:15:15 Speaker 1: Watching this so now i'm watching this like god damn bro like this time have went by fast and there are people watch watching this show now they're gonna have that same moment if well they ain't gonna do another reboot of whatever show that they're watching together as as a general as a generation so it's unfortunate they're doing her like that i'm glad everybody's sticking up for and and and defending her you know and and um Yeah, yeah. It is what it is, unfortunately. It's just, like you said, a dark side of the internet. And I don't even think it's the internet. I think if you didn't even have the internet, that conversation was still going to happen because we all remember what Whitney, what she looked like. And we were not ready. People were not ready to see that. 01:16:00 Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on this show? Are y'all watching season two? 01:16:05 Speaker 6: Nope. 01:16:07 Speaker 3: I'm watching season two. 01:16:08 Speaker 1: Maybe. 01:16:09 Speaker 4: I probably ain't no watching. I watched all of Dear White People. 01:16:11 Speaker 3: I probably ain't no watching. Yeah, I'm watching. 01:16:14 Speaker 4: Just saying. It won't be on the top of my list, though, Nick. 01:16:18 Speaker 3: It wasn't on the top of your list now, either. 01:16:21 Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. My confirmations were correct. 01:16:24 Speaker 2: Jay, just hit play, go to sleep. We just need to get the spins up. That's all I'm saying. 01:16:32 Speaker 3: Nah, I can't do that, bro. Just like you said, I can't get the spins up. Why get spins up on bad shit? Because like you said, it's okay. We can have it. 01:16:41 Speaker 5: Just because we can have it don't mean I just got to get the spins up on it. Those are two different, those two, you enjoy it and other people enjoy it, cool, but I'm not just going to do it just to get the spins up. 01:16:51 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, man. Yeah, I ain't shit. 01:16:56 Speaker 4: I know one thing, Nick. 01:16:56 Speaker 3: What did Byron say? Byron said about that quartet, that quartet horn. 01:17:06 Speaker 4: I know one thing, Nick. 01:17:08 Speaker 1: Shaquille definitely going to be back because Deion popped up and take his ass to Colorado. 01:17:17 Speaker 2: That goofy ass photo that's clearly fake of him. They could even get Deion to do a picture with him for the show. 01:17:24 Speaker 3: They just use his likeness. 01:17:27 Speaker 4: All right. 01:17:28 Speaker 3: Deion ain't doing

shit in Colorado. He probably still say cut the check. He probably still say cut the check just to use his likeness. 01:17:35 Speaker 4: What y'all think about Summer Walker popping up in. 01:17:39 Speaker 3: Oh, she asking to cut the check too. For nothing. Absolutely nothing. 01:17:46 Speaker 1: When Whitney, this was also a turning point. I know we're wrapping up, but when this motherfucker, oh, that was one more thing I want to talk about. 01:17:53 Speaker 4: Uh, real quick. 01:17:54 Speaker 1: And it's, they're tied together. But when she paid $ 10, 000 for some fucking lashes, bro, like what, what are we doing in this show? Like, why are y'all just throwing it? I know that Jasmine's, her parents got money, but y'all throwing around like, if like, that ain't like, that's like insignificant to her. 01:18:12 Speaker 4: It probably is. 01:18:13 Speaker 1: It just felt like such a ridiculous number to put in here to later use. 01:18:20 Speaker 4: It for the show. It just felt like, like, what are we doing? 01:18:24 Speaker 1: All of that to tie to the part where somehow some way when she's sitting at the desk after the protest, they got everything turned around. 01:18:31 Speaker 4: She just happened to see the letter. 01:18:34 Speaker 1: And the reason why she got in college. And because she was a nepo baby, which is all the way back to the first episode. And she goes to the parents and be like, yeah, you guys can't trust me to get in on my own. 01:18:45 Speaker 4: Well, guess what, motherfucker? 01:18:46 Speaker 1: Your ass wasn't gonna get in we know that as a fact you were not gonna get in this college nick got she was she what two points on me she wasn't gonna get in she had all kind of learning disabilities and issues something like that they had to pay her ass to get in this damn school now she took advantage of it and leveraged it But stop acting like you have issues. 01:19:09 Speaker 2: What we're realizing is that Dwayne and Whitney really had a mistake baby. Because I think they mentioned that in the early part of this season. They were like, yeah, we didn't expect her, but she here now. You can tell they treated her, they raised her like that. Because they didn't know she had a learning disability. They didn't know a lot of things about her that they was finding out in real time with us. But I'll also say, like, I feel like, um, The way she found out about Shaq being with another woman was also just kind of like, what? 01:19:43 Speaker 5: I was about to say, Nick, that's what I was going to next. 01:19:46 Speaker 2: Because I was like, you mean to tell me you go into somebody else's room, dig through their shit. 01:19:54 Speaker 3: First of all, that's a black woman no-no. You don't do that shit. Dig through their shit. Then you notice something in a room and then you dig through her shit. It's like, what? What? 01:20:05 Speaker 1: And then you get your ass the Tony Braxton haircut. 01:20:09 Speaker 4: So now... Oh my God, bro. 01:20:11 Speaker 3: This shit... Listen, Nick. 01:20:14 Speaker 5: She put two and two together because she washed his nigga clothes. 01:20:21 Speaker 3: Now, you do look guilty. But nigga, you can't talk your way out of that one. 01:20:30 Speaker 4: But you mean. 01:20:32 Speaker 5: Because she washed his clothes. 01:20:34 Speaker 3: First of all, Why her clothes there, nigga? 01:20:38 Speaker 4: Off of one night. Off of one night stand, bro. 01:20:42 Speaker 3: That was a terrible way for her to find out, bro. 01:20:46 Speaker 4: Like, it. 01:20:47 Speaker 3: I don't know, man. 01:20:48 Speaker 5: I did like the scene she had when she confronted the resident hall lady. 01:20:53 Speaker 3: I think that's when her... When she cut her hair, Ken, that's when her acting got, like. 01:20:56 Speaker 2: From then on, she was the best actor on the show. 01:20:58 Speaker 3: Like, I really liked how she acted. 01:20:59 Speaker 4: It was definitely better, yeah. 01:21:01 Speaker 3: But, like, yeah, the way... Again, the way they found out about things was just kind of like, what? 01:21:04 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:21:07 Speaker 3: And then him just being. 01:21:11 Speaker 3: It was funny because he was upset about her with the other guy. And he even knew it. He even told his friend. He was like, oh, yeah, I am upset. 01:21:18 Speaker 2: But if she found out, it's like, then why didn't you tell her? 01:21:21 Speaker 3: Because she was right. The one thing I really liked about her character, she was like, I gave you ample... Like, I knew for a while. Yeah, she did. But I gave you ample time. He over here talking about, oh, yeah, by the way... No, that was good. That was the most. 01:21:32 Speaker 5: That's a black woman staple, though. I know for a while, nigga, I gave you an opportunity to tell me, nigga. Like, I've known for a minute, and you... Because they kept saying, y'all haven't been talking for weeks. 01:21:43 Speaker 4: Yeah. She has very little room to stand on, though. 01:21:48 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that. I ain't going to say that. 01:21:51 Speaker 4: It was the whole ass kiss he didn't know about. 01:21:53 Speaker 3: She told him, though. She ended up telling him. 01:21:56 Speaker 4: Look how long it took. 01:21:58 Speaker 3: She still told him. 01:21:59 Speaker 5: And they weren't together. Wait, no, they were together by then. But I think the other thing is, I lost my thought because I was about to defend a black woman. 01:22:08 Speaker 4: She had been wet dreams about this motherfucker. That's all the reasons she told. 01:22:11 Speaker 2: That's between her and God. 01:22:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. You going to yell at me for thoughts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all getting fucked up. But also, he kissed her. I'm going to give her the lead wig. She admitted she liked it. Nah, I ain't doing that, Jay. I'm not doing that, Jay. I'm not doing that, Jay. 01:22:30 Speaker 4: She didn't push back. 01:22:31 Speaker 2: She went back for more than that.

Hey, I'm an equal opportunity, Jay. If it don't work for us, it don't work for them. Imagine you saying that, come on. 01:22:41 Speaker 3: She went, what? Did you kiss her back? She kissed that nigga back. Yeah, you're right. It would work if you do it immediately, though. If you tell her immediately, you can get out of that. 01:22:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it has to be in 24 hours. He waited until spring semester. 01:22:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 01:23:03 Speaker 2: Going home for the summer. He overreacted like shit sweet. She's like, nigga, get the fuck out of here. I love the way she cussed his ass out. 01:23:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was, oh yeah, and Amir ain't shit either. Hazel just had the best night of her life. She got this award and she ain't gonna sit here and tell him, by the way, I slept with your man. 01:23:25 Speaker 4: She's like, why'd you do that? 01:23:27 Speaker 3: She's like, don't lie on him like that. I do lie on him like that. AJ. 01:23:31 Speaker 1: Too late. 01:23:32 Speaker 3: Too late. She said some deep down inside. 01:23:49 Speaker 2: I knew you was telling the truth, but I just, you know, I just wanted to, I was just like. 01:23:52 Speaker 4: Come on, bro. 01:23:54 Speaker 2: Like y'all, y'all, y'all paper mache this storyline. Like this storyline could have been a lot more interesting, a lot more. And then you just forgive him. 01:24:03 Speaker 3: And he's, he knew you was with him. 01:24:07 Speaker 2: Like, and he's like, and he knew he was coming on to him because. 01:24:12 Speaker 3: He did the whole wink thing on the FaceTime. 01:24:14 Speaker 5: And it's like, bro, as soon as I was seen, I was like, hey, bro, let's link up some other time with the group, whatever. You know what I'm saying? If you was really friends with her. And he don't come and tell us, I'm so sorry. 01:24:25 Speaker 2: And then he was like, but at the same time, he was like, but at the same time, why you talk to me like that? 01:24:30 Speaker 3: I was like, bro. are you serious like it. 01:24:35 Speaker 2: Was like I was like Amir had the he had the cojones to pull off what he did because I swear another black woman slid his throat for the way he was talking to her well she. 01:24:49 Speaker 1: Ain't shit either she got a whole ass boyfriend I mean I forgot about to cheat again Until that motherfucker said, he on his way to the. 01:24:57 Speaker 4: He done. 01:24:58 Speaker 3: She like, what? You right, kid. She got a whole. 01:25:02 Speaker 2: She got a whole fiance in Rushville, Nebraska, wherever the hell she come from. 01:25:08 Speaker 4: And she. 01:25:11 Speaker 2: Over here getting mad because she don't know if a nigga like her or her best friend. 01:25:20 Speaker 1: Oh, man. 01:25:21 Speaker 4: And you right, she was risking. 01:25:23 Speaker 3: She was going to risk it all for a nigga named Bunny. 01:25:25 Speaker 6: Oh, man. 01:25:27 Speaker 4: I'm so. 01:25:31 Speaker 4: Hey, he might get with Amir, too. She better watch out. Hey, bro, Amir over here. Hey. Amir. Hey, Nick, remember he said, my body count higher than yours. 01:25:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, Amir got that aura, kid. They just, they flocked. You see, the other, the nigga that she was with, what was his name? 01:25:50 Speaker 3: I forgot his name. 01:25:51 Speaker 4: The Hooper? 01:25:52 Speaker 3: He was like, and he said, I don't know, man. He was like, he was like, Jesus. 01:25:58 Speaker 2: He was trying to come out to him. He was like, he ain't know what to say. I don't even know how to say what he said because I don't want to paraphrase it because it's a sensitive topic. 01:26:07 Speaker 4: Amir put it on him, bro. Amir put it on him. 01:26:09 Speaker 3: Hey, he was like, hey, bro, if you want to come, you know what I'm saying? 01:26:13 Speaker 4: Meet me at the spot. 01:26:14 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:26:15 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? 01:26:16 Speaker 1: He got up. He was like, yeah, I'll be there. And she gave him the coat sign. She was like, yeah, you can go get him. He was like. 01:26:23 Speaker 4: I bet. 01:26:24 Speaker 2: She is the most understanding friend in the world. I don't even know how they still cool. Even if she did forgive him and said, my bad for what I said. It's like, all right, based off of that, I can't fuck with you no more. 01:26:36 Speaker 1: So this show doesn't represent y'all generation or the generation behind y'all at all. 01:26:41 Speaker 3: I think it represents, to me, it represents every generation. 01:26:44 Speaker 2: I just think they're framing it in a way like, this is what's going on in today's world. Um, and it ain't that much different than y'all's all corny pun intended. That's what I feel like they're trying to say. 01:26:56 Speaker 1: But you said that that was one of the biggest takeaways because this show in 2026 still addressing the shit that happened in 1987 and the 90s racism, et cetera, et cetera. 01:27:08 Speaker 4: It's just a new set of kids, bro. It's sad. 01:27:17 Speaker 3: Any other thoughts, Jay? I ain't got no thoughts for this shit, man. 01:27:22 Speaker 2: Well, those are our thoughts on this show. Please let us know what you guys think. FPS Podcast is a Reddit thread. That's also our handle for IG and Twitter. Please, if you watch this show, tell your friends. They'll support it for season two. Shout out to Debbie Allen and the whole crew for bringing it back. And, yeah, I guess I may do this as a solo pod, but we'll make it. 01:27:42 Speaker 4: Hey, after talking about the mess, bro, I might be back. 01:27:45 Speaker 3: I told you, kid. Hey, kid, I keep telling you. 01:27:51 Speaker 2: When we unpack this shit, it's a lot better. 01:27:56 Speaker 4: It ain't a carry-on, kid. 01:27:57 Speaker 3: You got to check the bag. 01:28:01 Speaker 4: It's a check-in. 01:28:03 Speaker 3: We'll catch you on season two. 01:28:05 Speaker 4: We out. 01:28:05 Speaker 3: Peace. 01:28:06 Speaker 4: Peace.