บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Next Stop, Christmas

--> 00:02:02.159 Uh yeah, unfortunately, uh Dwayne Poole passed away in 2023. 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.959 He he was in the middle of writing a movie Holiday Hotline. 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.800 When he passed uh away, Julie Sherman Wolf came in and finished the uh the script off. 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:11.680 But yeah, he was really popular amongst the Hallmark writing community. 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.639 So um, yeah, we lost him back in 2023. 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:16.000 Oh, I was not aware of this. 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:17.199 I'm sorry to hear that. 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.560 Well uh he left us with a nice movie. 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:35.599 Uh the FHC log line for this movie is excuse me, a woman heading home for Christmas accidentally boards a magical train that sends her 10 years into the past, giving her a chance to rethink the choices that shaped her life, including the guy who may have been right in front of her all along. 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.759 We could all certainly use this opportunity, I think, sometimes. 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:43.520 So uh this movie has a pretty good high MDB rating of 7.0. 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:44.960 Again, our average is 6.4. 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:45.919 Yep, really good. 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.719 And really eager to hear this from you this week. 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:50.240 Uh, let's hear some fun facts. 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:54.319 Yeah, so we uh you know, we say so often that a movie uh is shot in Canada. 00:02:54.479 --> 00:03:01.360 Well, this one was not, it was actually shot in the good old United States of America in the state of Connecticut in the summer of 2021. 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:05.120 And the working title at the time was The Christmas Train. 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:11.360 Um this is the seventh movie in which Christopher Lloyd and Leah Thompson, excuse me, Leah Thompson, have both co-starred. 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:15.280 Of course, we have a little back to the future uh connection there with this movie. 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.759 And if you're wondering about the train featured in this movie, it was the Essex uh Steam Train. 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:24.240 It's a real train, it's a sightseeing train that if you're in Connecticut, you can go and take a scenic ride on. 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.520 And during Christmas, it becomes the North Pole Express. 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:35.120 Uh, I read an interview with Chandler Massey about this movie, and Renee he said his dad's favorite movie growing up was Back to the Future. 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.319 So he was really excited that Chandler Massey was doing this movie. 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:44.159 And Renee, it makes me feel very old because growing up, Back to the Future was also one of my favorite movies. 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:55.280 So uh in that same interview, Chandler Massey also teased that Hallmark should turn the next stop idea into a franchise with next stop Halloween, next stop Easter. 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:58.319 And I thought that sounded like a really fun concept that he had. 00:03:58.479 --> 00:03:58.800 Who knows? 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.439 Maybe someday someday we'll see that kind of stuff. 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.840 Uh, first Hallmark Christmas movie for both Lindsay Fonseca and Chandler Massey. 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:10.240 And Hallmark actually has a one-minute behind-the-scenes video about this movie. 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.120 And you do a little googling, you can find that on the Hallmark channel. 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:18.399 And it'll some interviews with the actors and, like I say, a little uh behind the scenes about Next Stop Christmas. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:22.959 Uh, in terms of ratings, uh, 40 Hallmark Christmas movies in 2021, which is a great year. 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:28.399 I mean, Unexpected Christmas, uh Kiss Before Christmas, a whole bunch of others uh in there. 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:32.079 Uh this movie was tied for seventh uh out of the 40 in 2021. 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:37.680 And I've said it before, if you're looking for like the top 100 Hallmark Christmas movies of all time, there's only one list you need to look at. 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:39.759 That's Joe the Christmas aficionado. 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:47.519 And he has this ranked number 81 all time, which kind of puts it around the top 15% of all the Hallmark uh Christmas movies in history. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:48.639 So I think that's pretty fair. 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:52.480 And I'm gonna give a shout-out to our friends Gary Navy from Poor the Wine, it's rom com time. 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:57.600 Um, they did a review of this exact movie back in May of 2026. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:05.600 Uh so after you listen to this one, go and listen to their review as well, and you can kind of see how different podcasters see different movies. 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:07.839 And yeah, those are the fun facts. 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.879 Yeah, I'll definitely go listen to them this week. 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.000 Uh, I really like their reviews, so I can't wait to listen to that one. 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.399 Rich, let's hear your overall thoughts on this movie. 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:21.680 Yeah, I thought it was a fun, light-hearted movie, uh, easy kind of watch. 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.279 I I kind of said, okay, how can I put this in a in a comp to some other movies? 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:31.439 I got kind of vibes of Back to the Future Meets Polar Express, meets the Christmas Carol, or Christmas Carol. 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.120 So that was kind of the vibe I got about it. 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.279 But good acting, good directing. 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.639 Uh, I really like the visuals, really good cinematography. 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:45.040 In the end, I I really enjoyed the first 76 of the 84 minutes, although we'll talk about it as we go along. 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.439 I do have some serious issues with the final

eight minutes of this movie, but all in all, a pretty good watch. 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.360 Yeah, I thought this movie was very light. 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.079 Number one, which I needed after last week's heavy movie, uh, though it was a great movie. 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:57.279 And it was very funny. 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.279 I mean, I was I really enjoyed this. 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:08.560 I was laughing out loud so many times, and Lindsay was such a she has really good comedic acting, and her facial expressions are great, and it was such an easy watch. 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:10.000 Um it was fun. 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:18.079 If you were in in are in for a mood for something light and fun and enjoyable, again, we'll talk about that ending, but uh this is a one definitely to check out. 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:18.879 Yeah, for sure. 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.839 Give me some things uh we really liked about this movie. 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:26.079 I'm I'm a sucker for uh for a good train ride, and I loved all the train scenes in this movie. 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:27.759 I thought they were really well done. 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:35.600 Um Christopher Lloyd and Leah Thompson, obviously, you and I both being Gen Xers, uh, those go back to kind of our past back when we're growing up. 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.240 So it was great to see the two of them in a movie together. 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.839 Uh, another one of uh this was number eight, I believe they'd done seven or eight. 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.199 Uh the time travel Christmas magic was a lot of fun in this movie. 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.600 Uh for the most part, I thought it was done pretty well uh throughout most of the movie. 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.439 I like the real world stuff in this, very human stuff. 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.959 Uh Kristen and Peter struggling to conceive their second child. 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:57.199 Yeah. 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:01.360 Uh Evelyn and George having issues adjusting to becoming empty nesters. 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:04.240 I think that's those are real issues that people go through in life. 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:09.439 And I think they they intertwine those kind of storylines very well into the movie. 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:13.279 And I always talk uh when I we have some good youthful actors in a movie. 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:19.120 Lindsay Fonseca was 34 years old when this movie uh was filmed, Chandler Massey, 31 years old. 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.040 So I love seeing the youth in this movie. 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.279 Uh a whole bunch of like, but those are some of the ones. 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:34.079 I really like the I'm gonna go a little bit more specifics, like when the she's at the ticketing booth to buy a ticket, and uh Christopher Lloyd said to Angie, and he goes, You know what they say? 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.319 The magic of Christmas will find you wherever you are. 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:38.800 And she goes, and she replies, Oh, is that what they say? 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:43.439 I thought that was such a funny interaction, but more importantly, Christmas magic. 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:44.480 We love it. 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:51.680 And like when Lindsay says, Oh, you know, when he says, Oh, I'm from the future, and he goes, And you're here to terminate me. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:52.959 Yeah, that was great. 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:59.199 I thought that was so funny, and like you, I loved all the lovely shots of the train going through the snowed forest. 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:00.639 Really, really nice. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.600 And you know, there's a Christmas tree lot scene, as you know. 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:04.560 I love those. 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.800 Um here are I'm really eager to hear this. 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.120 What are some things uh we'd fix in a rewrite? 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.240 Yeah, I have a feeling you and I are both gonna have a little uh something to say here. 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:21.920 But I'll go through okay, I'll get through a few just things I think needed to be added first before I get to the big uh the big thing I want to talk about in this movie, which was the final eight minutes. 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.959 But first of all, I think Hallmark really dropped the ball on this one. 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:28.639 We needed a scene with Leah Thompson and Christopher Loy together. 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:32.960 Um this is they're obviously selling the back to the future connection here. 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.240 Give me a 10 or 15 seconds where they walk by one another. 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:41.840 Maybe she's out, you know, shopping or whatever, and he's at the train station, they pass each other and give each other a quick little look. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:42.960 Like, who are you? 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:43.679 Who are you again? 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:45.279 Like, do we know each other kind of thing? 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.679 I think that was a uh they dropped the ball on that. 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:49.600 I think we needed that in the movie for sure. 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.679 Uh, it would have been something really easy to add in if you could have made their uh their acting schedules work. 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:59.120 I'm sure they were maybe in you know different scenes at different times in terms of the filming, but they had to get that in there. 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:06.720 Um we'll talk about the mistletoe meter here, but for me, they needed one big kiss at the end of the movie. 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:13.039 And for me, it would have been like in that last 10-15 seconds as the two of them were walking to their train down the platform. 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:20.720 They should have been doing a big walking kiss, and then you still kind of flash the Christopher Lloyd, you know, pulls the newspaper down and kind of winks at the camera. 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:23.279

That absolutely should have been in there as well. 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:31.759 Um, that would have been a great way to end the movie because I was a little uh disappointed in the overall kiss uh towards the end of the movie, and that would have been a great way to end it. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:38.159 And now let's get to the last eight minutes, Renee, because this is where I really struggled, and I I shot you a text after I watched it. 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:44.879 I said, Renee, I don't want to sound like an idiot here, so you have to tell me, is it just me or was the last eight minutes of this movie completely confusing? 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:48.320 And you go, no, it was it was confusing, all right. 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:55.120 So we had to rewrite the so I was very confused as is how the last eight minutes of this movie played out. 00:09:55.360 --> 00:10:07.200 Um I basically we're supposed to believe you know they're not gonna see each other for 10 years, or they're not, you know, that's when they're gonna meet again in the restaurant to see whatever happens. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:08.480 Uh, he knows it's for real. 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:12.399 He's he kind of he's kind of the train disappear there, so he understands the future thing. 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:13.600 He's a believer. 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:22.480 But then when they do finally meet in the restaurant, 10 years later, it seems like they've basically been together this entire time. 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.480 Although for some reason she doesn't remember any of it. 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.519 And if they have been together for 10 years, we're supposed to believe they wouldn't already be engaged or married. 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:37.120 I it just the whole thing felt very disjointed, unorganized. 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:44.879 It's almost like the writers kind of got the first 76 minutes of the movie they wanted to, didn't know how to finish it off at the end, and just kind of threw it in there. 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:46.879 But to me, it made absolutely no sense. 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:52.399 Yeah, to piggyback on that, like, you know, number one, like you want she's like two hours late. 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:54.559 And like, isn't the restaurant closing? 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:55.600 They were packing up. 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.080 I think they would why wouldn't they have not been kicked out? 00:10:58.159 --> 00:10:58.799 Number one. 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:00.879 No way on Christmas Eve. 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.399 At first, you know, I was like, no way do you wait two hours on Christmas Eve for someone? 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:08.799 I didn't connect yet that you know, I guess they had been together. 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.440 You know, at first I was like, have they been dating this whole time? 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:14.960 It didn't seem like they lived together because they said, When's the last time I saw you? 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:16.559 You know, dinner on Tuesday. 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.960 So not this morning or something like that. 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.840 But this this ending was so confusing to me. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:23.039 I guess they were together. 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:26.960 That was not clear for how long, maybe 10 years, maybe I don't know how long. 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:33.120 Yeah, well, but when she had the call with the family, I mean, obviously, they're all of course, you know, Ben, like like you of course you guys are together. 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:38.080 I mean, they kind of made it feel that way without spoiling it, but yeah, I don't know. 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:39.120 Yeah, so okay. 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.919 I thought like like like you said, 10 years, they wouldn't have you wouldn't have proposed by then. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:45.840 I just was like, what's going on here? 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.879 And like they just wrapped this up too quickly and oddly for me. 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:55.120 I hate to say it, but this whole ending needed a whole rewrite, like completely, just to make it make a little bit more sense. 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:56.960 Uh 100%. 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.919 And in and I think with any time travel movie, it is hard. 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:02.399 It's it's difficult to uh to make everything working. 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:08.240 You have to have some suspension of disbelief, but the way this ended was just it was just the way bonkers just made no sense. 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:12.240 Yeah, it was unfortunate because otherwise it's a really funny movie. 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:17.360 And I have one little thing, and it is so dumb, but you know me, I have an eye for dumb little things. 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:17.840 Sure. 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:26.559 When Evelyn says to Hendrik, you get to hang the first ornament on the tree, and then the next shot is him placing the ornament next to an already placed ornament. 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.759 I said to myself, What the hallmark is going on here? 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:31.279 Come on, get that one right. 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:32.399 That's an easy one. 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:33.759 Easy, easy, easy. 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.240 There was our he literally hangs it next to another ornament. 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:37.120 I'm like, oh man. 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:38.480 And I'm I'm gonna put it out with it. 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:42.399 That was like the saddest looking Christmas tree I've ever seen when they did the big light reveal. 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:44.879 It's like Yeah, it was. 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.639 Hallmark does a really good job with their with their balsam hill and their Christmas trees. 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:49.919 This just did not look good. 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.279 Well, what is your favorite moment? 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.840 So I like the scene at Aunt Mert's party. 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.120 I just thought it was a lot of fun. 00:12:57.279 -->

00:13:05.440 Of course, we have you know, they're they're they're trying to get their parents back together and and uh you know rekindle that spark that they once had. 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.720 Uh it goes full circle to them, you know, meeting for the first time. 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:10.320 Everyone's there, everyone has a good time. 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.879 Uh Leah Thompson looks absolutely incredible. 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.120 I mean, even George, George wearing that suit. 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:16.000 I mean, yeah. 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:17.360 Everyone having a great time. 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.679 Every all the different uh supporting characters are there. 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:21.039 It was just a fun, fun party. 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:22.080 That's my favorite scene. 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:27.120 Mine, you know, as I was watching this, nothing stood out as like an absolute favorite moment for me. 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:31.519 So I picked one Angie calls home towards the end, and everyone is there. 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:32.000 Yep. 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.000 The dad, the new niece. 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:35.360 It wrapped up happily. 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:36.399 The family was together. 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:38.000 I was very happy to see that. 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.600 To me, this that was the real happy ending of the movie. 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.559 Everybody together, the family, the new baby. 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:49.600 That to that was just such a nice, wholesome, warm-hearted feeling when I saw that. 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:50.879 That was my favorite moment. 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:52.320 I just love that scene. 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.000 I wonder if we agree on this one. 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.679 I gotta believe we do, but best supporting character who deserved more screen time. 00:13:57.919 --> 00:13:59.039 Is it Brutus a dog? 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.080 Or I don't know. 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:01.679 Uh I you know. 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:05.360 I love Brutus, but that was not my pick. 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:06.559 It wasn't mine either. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.759 Um, okay, so I I started looking around. 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:14.320 There is a really big connection between Hallmark movies and the musical Wicked. 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:27.039 Um, you know, Jenna Claire Mason, uh Patty Muren, Derek Clenna, Jordan Litz, and the supporting character I picked who I wanted more cream time, uh actress is named Allie Tim. 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.200 And she played the role of Chloe. 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:35.759 And Allie Trim just finished up a run on Broadway as Glinda in Wicked in uh April of this year. 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.360 So uh I really liked the role of Chloe. 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.799 Um, she was just really obnoxious. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:49.919 Um she every scene she was in, it just made me kind of giggle, kind of laugh, put a smile on my face, and I wanted more of her. 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.879 And then we always say best supporting character who deserved more screen time. 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.679 I wanted more screen time from Chloe, so that's who I'm going with. 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:56.480 Yeah, exactly. 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:58.240 Same thing, Chloe. 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.200 Um, yeah, she's a the total theater actress. 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:02.639 I looked up her credits, I was impressed. 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:09.440 Not much uh on the you know, on the small screen or big screen, but her character was so insane and so crazy. 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.919 Uh, I love crazy girl characters like her. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.480 She was just so awesome and made me laugh. 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:19.600 She literally, I I wanted more screen time, screen time with her. 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:22.559 I just loved her character so much, it was great. 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.320 You pretty much said it all. 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:24.879 Yep. 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:30.480 Well, I'm sure we have I had a few things here, but uh, what are some of our are we sure's? 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:40.480 Yeah, so the first one is uh when Angie gets kind of that golden ticket for the train and she hands it to the train ticket guy down on the platform, he's just like, Oh, I never seen a sport before before. 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:41.759 Sure, hop on. 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:43.039 I mean, are we sure? 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.320 I mean, uh, New York train security's pretty tight. 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.080 Uh, are we sure this guy would just say, Yeah, just get on the train, even though I've never seen this ticket before? 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:51.200 I I don't think so. 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:52.960 That was my first one as well. 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:53.600 Yep. 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:54.399 Yeah. 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.080 Are we sure that George would go on a solo mission to find a tree? 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:08.639 Now, now look, I get it that he and his wife are kind of drifting apart and he likes his alone time, but I mean, his daughter Angie's home for the first time, they're going tree shopping, something that they've done before. 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:13.759 I don't think he does goes off on his own to find his own tree in that moment. 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:14.480 Yeah. 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:19.840 Um, and then my last one here is Tyler, who's a great character as well. 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:29.120 Do we think are we sure that Tyler would think that bolting for Barcelona on one day's notice while he's there meeting her family would ever be a good idea? 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.000 I mean, the dude's just asking to get dumped, Renee. 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.399 I mean, uh, those are my are we sure. 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:39.120 You know, he was one, like, well, you know, we've seen some characters where like, we're happy that they got dumped. 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:44.960 I mean, I

wasn't necessarily upset that I wasn't, you know, happy that Tyler got dumped, but okay. 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:50.320 Like, well, would Tyler absolutely not lose it when Angie dumps him before the trip to Barcelona? 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:57.440 Understandably so, but they just got engaged, and like he's like, okay, walks off with even looks back and smiles at her. 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:58.639 I'd be like, What? 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:00.960 I would have been so mad. 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.120 Even for a ring and everything, yeah. 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:08.079 Yeah, even if I was wrong in like saying, hey, a day's notice, go to Barcelona on Christmas, that's insane. 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.319 But like, I'd still be pretty darn mad. 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:15.839 I don't I do not get how that tells me he didn't really care for her that much because he wasn't that mad. 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:16.880 He should have been. 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:23.359 And we've brought this up before, but are we sure Angie and Tyler would not have been sleeping in the same bedroom? 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:23.839 Yeah. 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:26.640 I mean, they've been longtime boyfriend and girlfriend, right? 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:28.160 Now it's some engaged. 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.839 I that was seemed silly, but we've talked about that before. 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:32.880 So sure. 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:34.720 This is kind of a moot point. 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:36.960 Would the lead couple last 12 months? 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.640 I guess well, I guess we'll they will they make it through their engagement, we want to say. 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:43.039 And uh whether however we want to put it, I said sure. 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:47.119 You know, it looks uh he uh she's a a doctor, he's a lawyer, they have really good chemistry. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.359 They had their first kiss at 11 years old. 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:54.160 Um, so yeah, these these guys are gonna make it, they're gonna have a really good marriage. 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.079 Uh and yeah, uh Angie and Ben are in it for the long haul. 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:03.200 Yeah, they they've already been together for 10 years and probably longer in in love, so for sure. 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:06.720 I have been waiting for this one this week. 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.920 Let's rate the kiss A to F the mistletoe meter. 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.440 So it was a really strange kiss. 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:11.680 Okay. 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.039 First of all, okay, I gave it a C. 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:21.839 It's it's like their faces just mashed together for three to four seconds, and and that was it. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:27.200 And then I thought for sure we were gonna get another kiss after the proposal, but nope, no other kiss. 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.119 That that was the only kiss we got. 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.880 So they at least needed to have another kiss after he proposed to her. 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:34.079 And then I've already said it. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:46.319 We needed a big kiss, the two of them walking to their train uh in the train station in that final scene of the movie, they're walking, they're passionately kissing, and then we get the little uh Christopher Lloyd uh train conductor giving a nod to the camera. 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:47.759 That's how the movie should have ended. 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.440 But all in all, I did not like this kiss, it just did nothing for me. 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:52.720 It it got a C. 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.119 You were nicer than I am gonna be. 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:55.519 Wow. 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:56.240 Wow, okay. 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:58.000 Like this was hard to gauge. 00:18:58.079 --> 00:18:59.200 This was not a great kiss. 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:05.119 I mean, he was surprised to get the kiss, and I was like, sure, like, okay, are they together, not together? 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.279 But if they've been together all this time, still not a great kiss. 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:14.880 And as soon as he she started kissing him, he should have engaged right away instead of acting surprised. 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:15.279 Yeah. 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.240 In either case, this kiss was lame. 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:20.160 It's a D plus for me. 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:22.079 I was not happy with it at all. 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.759 Uh moving on, who or what won the movie? 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.319 So for me, it's Lindsay Fonseca as Angy. 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:29.599 Um, she was great. 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:31.920 Uh, I kind of looked at her Hallmark history. 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:38.079 Interestingly enough, she was she was in a non-Christmas Hallmark movie when she was 18 years old back in 2005. 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:40.960 But this was her first uh role since then. 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.680 So 16 years in between her first one and this movie in 2021. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:50.640 Uh obviously, her first lead role, uh we know was her first Hallmark Christmas movie, and she absolutely killed it. 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:55.519 She was just so charismatic, so likable, great comedic timing. 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.319 Uh, can't wait to watch her in the uh the holiday touchdown Bears love story here in a couple weeks. 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:00.799 Oh, yeah. 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.160 Uh Lindsay Fonseca, she is my MVP of the movie. 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:04.799 Same. 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:06.559 You pretty much said exactly what I was gonna say. 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:07.359 She was so funny. 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.160 I really enjoyed her acting, just hilarious. 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.559 She really made me laugh many, many times. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.039 And I'm gonna say something kind of controversial. 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:19.920 She might be giving for me, Jill Wagner, a run for her money. 00:20:20.079 -->

00:20:21.680 I just thought she was adorable. 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:22.640 I really liked her. 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:24.559 So that's I'm gonna leave that one there. 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:25.200 All right. 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:30.400 Only if Jill Wagner came back would she fully solidify her spot as number one for me. 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.279 But you know, she's left Hallmark, so hopefully she comes back. 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.240 Okay, Lindsay Fonseca or Bethany Joy Lindsey. 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:36.960 Lindsay. 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:38.160 Wow, okay. 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:39.200 That's uh I know. 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:42.240 I know that is that is uh rarefied air, Mary. 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:45.440 I mean, that is that is a big time company when you put her next to BJL, but okay. 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:50.960 I know, you know, if I watched a movie later today, I might switch that with Bethany. 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.079 We'll see. 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:58.319 So I had to think like, what am I gonna use for what are we gonna use for our overall movie rating? 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:05.839 And I'm gonna say, how many time traveling trains do we give this movie on a scale of one to five? 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:13.359 So 75 minutes in, I was ready to give this a 4.25 time traveling trains. 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:19.279 But the last eight minutes of the movie, I had to knock it down a little bit because it just did not work for me. 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.880 In the end, 4.0 time traveling. 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:27.119 Excuse me, Renee, you gotta be time traveling trains for this one. 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:28.880 A 4.0 is what I'm giving it. 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.519 It is a tongue twister for sure. 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:37.519 That ending really, really, you know, uh, it really bothered me. 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:38.640 It was such a great movie. 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:41.200 Otherwise, I'm gonna be a little bit harsher than you. 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.720 I gave it a 3.75. 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:47.039 I would have been with you at a 4.25 if the movie had ended better. 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:49.680 A 3.75 time traveling trains. 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:50.880 Still watch this movie. 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:52.319 It's still worth the watch. 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:53.680 I you'll really enjoy it. 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:54.799 It's really, really funny. 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:57.680 Just an unfortunate last eight minutes, as we've talked about. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:01.519 I mean, rewrite those uh last eight minutes, give us a better kiss. 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:09.920 Um, when they're meeting in the restaurant, give us a one big kiss there in the train, walk into the train in the in those last couple seconds of the movie before the credits start rolling. 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.960 And yeah, this is easily a 4.25, but you're you're right. 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:13.279 Yeah. 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:14.400 But still watch it. 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:15.519 For sure, watch it, people. 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.279 It's really, really enjoyable movie. 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:18.400 Absolutely. 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:21.119 And speaking of movies, what's our next movie, Rich? 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:28.960 So, my last movie, Renee November Christmas, I picked arguably the most heavy emotional movie in Hallmark history. 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:34.000 So I felt it is my duty to go the complete opposite with my next choice. 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.720 And I'm I'm gonna pick a movie I think we've probably both seen. 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.799 Every once in a while, I'll pick a movie that I have seen before because I just want to review it. 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.200 And you know, now that we're reviewing these movies, looking at them a little differently, kind of breaking down everything. 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:50.240 This is arguably one of the funniest, most lighthearted movies in Hallmark history. 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:52.160 It has a huge fan following out there. 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.079 We're going back to the year 2022. 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:56.319 I can't call it a classic, it's only four years old. 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:01.279 But Haul Out the Holly, Lacey Chabert, Wes Brown, that's the next movie. 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:02.240 That is a good one. 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.240 I think I just saw it within the last year. 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:08.480 So uh I can't wait to watch this again with our critical eye. 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:08.880 Yep. 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:11.680 And uh, I'm very excited for this one in Lacey. 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.079 Come on. 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.480 It's kind of interesting in terms of our rating, Renee. 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:16.880 This is way down there in terms of the IMDB rating. 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.480 I mean way below average. 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:23.680 Yet Hallmark fans, other podcasters, people that really follow Hallmark closely, they love this movie. 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:34.079 So it's uh there's a big, interesting uh discrepancy between what this movie rates out to on IMDB versus I think what Hallmark fans think of it. 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.400 So that'll be an interesting uh way to break it down. 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:37.039 I can't wait. 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.119 I can't wait to see where we end up with. 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:41.359 So thank you for listening. 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:52.720 Follow us on Instagram, uh, Forever Hallmark Christmas at Instagram, and you can email us at Forever Hallmark Christmas at gmail.com for the love of hallmark for the love of hallmark.