บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ FKN Classics Double Feature! Tony Merkel - Lycans & Vampires | Dr Rita Louise - Entity Attachments

00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.000 called Expedition dog Man in Kentucky where we hunted the 36 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.879 dog Man for an entire week. We documented a journey 37 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.919 that we called the Shape of Shadows, and those two 38 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.479 journeys are now available on Merkele dot Media. The Shape 39 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.360 of Shadows is when we went out to the Skimwalker 40 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:17.680 Ranch area. We stayed on the property that is called 41 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.120 Space Wolf Research and we spent a week out there 42 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.919 bordering the property of Skinwalker Ranch and had some wild experiences. 43 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.879 So yeah, those are the two documentary films we come 44 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:32.159 out with. We've already filmed one in Washington on Bigfoot. West. 45 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.360 Germer from Sasquatch Chronicles is a good friend of mine 46 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.439 and we went out there to document his experience with 47 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.599 these creatures like a dozen years ago now, And while 48 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.919 we were out there, we stumbled into a missing four 49 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.400 one one situation and there was a missing person out 50 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:53.840 there that's still missing to this day. It's been pretty wild. 51 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.599 So that documentary is in production right now. Actually I 52 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.560 should be getting a final cut or no, the second, 53 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.000 the second cut coming by next week, I think. Lastly 54 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:09.719 or the second. Lastly, we shot The Sasqualogists, which is 55 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.840 a movie, not a documentary. It's an actual movie with 56 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.960 actors in it. And basically, yeah, that's actually out in Colorado, 57 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:22.599 that's where we filmed it. Yeah. The storyline basically is 58 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.560 that Patty from the Patterson Gimma film and her offspring 59 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:31.280 at least her offspring, migrated east to the Colorado Rockies 60 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.159 and there's a biologist that was trying to document that 61 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:39.560 migration and get proof of Bigfoot. And along his journey 62 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:42.759 he came across a kid who I can only feel 63 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.159 like so Joseph Granda is the lead actor. He wrote 64 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:47.919 the movie. He's the head of my film and streaming 65 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.960 development at Mercle Media, and I can only come to 66 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:55.960 the conclusion that he wrote this kid based off of 67 00:03:56.039 --> 00:04:00.520 me because he plays this scientific character. And then he 68 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.360 has this kid that comes in who's like, all

woo woo, 69 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.000 and he's like, Bigfoot come out of portals that everybody 70 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.159 knows that, And I'm like, I'm like, I think he 71 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:12.120 was thinking about me when he wrote this. But it's 72 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.360 about this these two different, polar opposite characters. They don't 73 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.600 get along and they come together throughout the movie to 74 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.800 hunt Bigfoot. And it's a very story driven movie. You 75 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:25.480 start getting to learn about the characters, their past hurts. 76 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.399 But it's also a hilarious movie, a lot of comedy. 77 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:31.519 It's funny. You're not gonna have Bigfoot biting people's heads off. 78 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.399 It's definitely family friendly. That's what we strive for at 79 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.079 Merkele Media with the films for producing that they that 80 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:39.480 you can put your kids in front of it. And I 81 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:42.879 wouldn't say a five year old should watch Expedition dog 82 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.480 Man per se, but the idea is that you're not 83 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:48.639 gonna have a bunch of you know, orgies and stuff, 84 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:52.839 So that's that's the goal. And then lastly, I would say, 85 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.319 to wrap up this self promotion hour that I have 86 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.399 going here, I just want to say that I am 87 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:03.279 going out out on Sunday. I'm heading west to an 88 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:07.720 undisclosed location to hunt the dog Man again on a 89 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:12.399 very large piece of property that is known for tons 90 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:16.399 of dog man activity and has been counted up to 91 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:21.040 at least twenty people's deaths attributed to this possible creature 92 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:23.079 out there. And we're gonna spend a week in the woods, 93 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:27.399 armed to the teeth trying to hunt the dog Man. 94 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:29.680 And we might be trying to open portals too while 95 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.279 we're out there, so we're gonna get a little crazy awesome. 96 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:32.519 Man. 97 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.600 Well, if you're ever looking for a new audience, I'm 98 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:40.279 sure bigfoot, orgies, there's always an audience for everything, So 99 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:42.639 you know, it's always something to consider. 100 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:48.879 If everything else failed, it's probab it's probably already been taken. Yeah, yeah, right, So. 101 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.199 Before we get into some of the spooky things that 102 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.279 I want to discuss today. Have you had any new 103 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:02.720 insights into some of the phenomena that is surrounding Bigfoot encounters. 104 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:07.800 We've discussed it before, Like you said, portals telepathic communication, 105 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.439 these beings being able to cloak themselves, disappear and reappear 106 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:16.240 at will. I've heard recent accounts where they show up 107 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.279 in people's houses and move things around without even unlocking 108 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.079 the door or opening a window. And it's also associated 109 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:30.079 with other types of unexplained and seemingly metaphysical creatures that 110 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.680 can be connected to this. Any new insights into the 111 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.199 Bigfoot phenomena or even connections with dog Man, Yeah. 112 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.720 I haven't got my monthly subscription newsletter yet, so I'm 113 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.240 not exactly sure if there's any updates as of this month. 114 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:47.519 But no, I think that you pretty much hit it 115 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:49.680 on the head on everything that's going on right now 116 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.680 at the phenomenon. I think there's a big movement towards 117 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:58.240 accepting for the dumbed down version, the woo woo of 118 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:06.199 these topics. I very much promote that mindset. I don't 119 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:08.040 have a skin in the game in per se, so 120 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.279 I've never seen these creatures, so I don't have a 121 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.879 direct interaction with Hey, I saw do this, so I 122 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:17.560 know it's this kind of thing. I just come from 123 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.560 the perspective of seeing a lot of people on the 124 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.720 computer screen talking to me about their experiences, and I 125 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.639 draw my own conclusions from those stories, and so I 126 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.680 come from a perspective of these things might be one 127 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.920 of many different origins. So it could be governmental experiments. 128 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:40.240 I think if it is governmental experiments, they're doing it 129 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.399 based off of things that already do exist that they 130 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:47.439 know about. Also, could it be interdimensional. I would venture 131 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.199 to say yes, absolutely when it comes to these creatures, 132 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.879 there is a real interdimensional aspect to be explored, and 133 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.240 that upsets some people for sure when they come from 134 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:02.360 the physical camp of things. But I would just be 135 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:05.360 I would argue this, and again, I have no skin 136 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:08.959 in the game. If

and I'm fine with anybody's conclusions. 137 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.920 They're like, I don't get caught up in the drama 138 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.480 of these topics and stuff. I just enjoy talking to people. 139 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.639 But I would say this, if you are somebody who 140 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.959 has been researching whatever you want to call researching, whether 141 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.240 it's reading stories on the internet, going out looking for Bigfoot, 142 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.680 or you know, even me, like people call me research, 143 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:28.600 I'm not researcher. I just talk to people out their stories. 144 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.040 But that's what you want to consider research them. Fine, 145 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.360 But if you've been doing this research whatever it is, 146 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:38.879 for thirty years, twenty years, ten years, and now let's 147 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:42.519 give it around to twenty thirty years, and you are 148 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.320 still from the beginning you say, I think this is 149 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.000 a physical creature, and you're still at the physical creature 150 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.480 aspect of things, I would say that you probably, at 151 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:56.320 least unintentionally, are disregarding pieces of information because it doesn't 152 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.919 fit in the paradigm that you have going into the topic. There, 153 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.600 and you can say that interdimensionalism is ridiculous, and on 154 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.399 the surface, it is when you look at the world 155 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.240 around you, what you've been told is real, the scientific 156 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.799 nature of things, what reality is according to what we've 157 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:19.840 been taught, interdimensional creatures coming through, it's just ridiculous. But 158 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:23.399 when you start looking into the topic and you start 159 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:27.399 looking into people's personal experiences and what they are claiming 160 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.240 they have seen themselves, and then you look at certain 161 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:34.720 evidences of seeing, you know, trackways that seemingly just whatever 162 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.320 made the track just it vanished, and it's just gone. 163 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.960 You're following the trackway, and then they're there, and then 164 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.360 they're not. Like there's things there that you have to 165 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:46.759 start at least considering and thinking about. And I understand 166 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.120 that some people do do those things, and they try 167 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:53.240 to come up with a rational physical explanation, and at 168 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.080 some point they wind up running themselves away from the 169 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.080 topics instead of running themselves into whatever the information leads. 170 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:04.120 And so I again, I don't even know if this 171 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:05.720 is where we wanted to go, but I'm just saying 172 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:10.080 I think that there is a real argument to be 173 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:14.120 made that these creatures are interdimensional. I think that there's 174 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.799 a possibility that they could be a remnant from biblical times, 175 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.519 and I think that could be married into the interdimensional 176 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.600 aspect of things, because I think at some point in 177 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.080 my appearances on your show, I'm sure we talked about Nephelom, 178 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:29.200 but like the idea of Nephilim, it's not meant nephelm 179 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:33.799 are just not physical hybrid creatures that were that are 180 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.759 half human half angel, and that's what they are. But 181 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.960 along with that, they will have certain capabilities that humans 182 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.360 do not have because their fathers are fallen angels. And 183 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:50.200 so if they are a remnant of such activities thousands 184 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:53.200 of years ago. Then there's there's no doubt in my 185 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.879 mind that they could access other realms. And I would 186 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:00.080 argue that I have enough people telling me pieces of 187 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.399 information about that direct thing that I would say, yeah, 188 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:06.200 because I know that I've talked. I know that I 189 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.559 have talked to people claiming to have interacted with Nephelum 190 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:14.879 and angels in other realms, and so you know, take 191 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:16.200 it for what it is. But there's just so many 192 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.480 different aspects of these topics. So is there anything new? 193 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:21.720 Probably not, but we could always talk about forever. 194 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:25.279 So well, I wanted to get your insights into the 195 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:30.519 different experiences based on the approach that the individual or 196 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.919 group takes whenever they're researching some of this stuff. If 197 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.279 you're going out into the woods and you're packing and 198 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.120 you have guns and you have this attitude where it's 199 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.960 going to be dangerous, it seems like there's a lot 200 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:48.440 of experiences that go where nothing happens, or maybe there 201 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:49.840 is some aggression shown. 202 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:51.759

Whereas I have. 203 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:55.799 The the super Woo Woo spiritual researchers who go out 204 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.480 and claim that they have relationships with tribes of Bigfoot, 205 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:03.639 and they have telepathic communications and they enter these astral 206 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.960 dimensions and hang out with the Bigfoot, and it's all 207 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:10.399 a loving experience versus even if you're going out there 208 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:14.360 with a scientific approach, you seem to get different results 209 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:19.320 based on how you approach it, the level of reverence 210 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.759 you approach it with, and your your attitude and emotional 211 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:23.840 state and things like that. 212 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:28.519 Would you agree, Oh yeah, I mean there's definitely that 213 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.919 angle of things. And I would say that we experience 214 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.559 that with the shape of shadows. I mean, so typically 215 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:36.840 when we go out to do these things, none of 216 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.159 my guys, including myself, feel comfortable going armless, like not 217 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:46.519 like no arms, but with no guns on us. It's 218 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:51.080 just our nature. It's how I am. If these things 219 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.480 can be killed, I, at least on this side of 220 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.320 the experience, I would go into it wanting to fire, 221 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.919 and that makes people upset, right, But and I just 222 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.000 said I was wou woo. Apparently woo You're not supposed 223 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.000 to think that way. But I don't know if these 224 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.240 things can be killed in the traditional sense. I've heard 225 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.840 stories where you can. So that's where I come to 226 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.360 this conclusion. Like, so when you're talking about seeing things 227 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.840 that can disappear that people say disappear, But then there's 228 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:27.320 other people who say, I blew its face off. What 229 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:30.399 do you make of that? Well, there's this argument to 230 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.799 be made that if these things are interdimensional beings, when 231 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:38.120 they're here, they might have no option but to adopt 232 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:43.879 physical characteristics, and maybe the longer that they're in this realm, 233 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:47.840 the more physical they become. Again, there's also the aspect 234 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:51.840 of maybe when somebody blows its face off, they're not 235 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.840 encountering the interdimensional kind, but rather maybe the designed kind 236 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.840 that came out of a lab somewhere. That's what happened 237 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.720 with a guy in Michigan. In his name's Joe, and 238 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:05.440 he was attractive trailer driver. He still is. He one 239 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:06.919 night pulled over on the side of the road. He 240 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:08.399 had an issue with his air brakes or something. But 241 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.440 he was on an incline, so his full load was 242 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.879 getting ready to go up the hill. And as he 243 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.000 gets back in his truck and he starts going a 244 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.399 full load attracted trailer. I mean, let's just say it 245 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.919 was forty thousand pounds. It very well could have been 246 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.120 more than that, double that at least, but say it 247 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.240 was forty thousand pounds, and you're trying to get a 248 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.279 truck that stopped going uphill. You're going about twenty five 249 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:31.679 miles an hour. You're not gonna be going fast until 250 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:32.879 you get to the top of that hill and you 251 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.799 can get some momentum going in that process of climbing 252 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.320 that hill. He looks in his mirrors, like a good 253 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.519 truck driver does, you're always scanning your mirrors. He sees 254 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.200 something very large bipedal running up the side of the truck. 255 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.240 And this thing was so large that when it came 256 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:49.559 up to the window, it actually ducked down to look 257 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.759 in at him. He had a handgun on the on 258 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.240 the side of his seat. He pulls it out, shoots it, 259 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.240 blows his face off. He turns his truck around to 260 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.840 come back down the hill. His plan was to actually 261 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.440 drive it over, like run it over. And when he 262 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.360 got down there, there's another car there, and he pulled 263 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.360 over and asked if everybody's okay, and they said, yeah, 264 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.279 there was a bear here and it was it was 265 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.320 it was drug off by another bear. And he like, 266 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.440 he says, he's like, I know that wasn't a bear, 267 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:24.440 but you know, it's what what is that. So one 268 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.840 of those things is the people that he interacted with. 269 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.080 Is that something that was actually people who just came 270 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.879 across a scene or was that something where maybe it 271 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:37.799 was a design thing and had a

tracker on it, 272 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:39.120 and the people that he talked to were the people 273 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.279 who were tracking it, And maybe he really kind of 274 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:48.159 destroyed a very expensive weapon. You know, I just looked 275 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.960 it up here. I think, yeah, this is what it is. 276 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:54.039 The gun that he used to kill this thing was 277 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.159 a Smith and Wesson Governor. It's a forty five long 278 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.799 cult I believe that's what That's what he used, if 279 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:07.759 I'm not mistaken. So it it had four to ten 280 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:13.720 shotgun shells in it and or forty five long colt. Yeah, 281 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.919 So I asked him, I just recently just texted that. 282 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:17.519 That's why I pulled it up here. I said, what 283 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:19.639 kind of gun did you shoot it with? And he said, 284 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:24.120 Smith and West and Governor revolver chambered with four to 285 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:28.039 ten shotgun shells and or forty five long colt, which 286 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.080 means I think he had multiple different types of rounds 287 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:34.960 in the revolver itself. I was loaded with six forty 288 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.519 five long colt that day there you go. Six forty 289 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:39.840 five long colt is what he shot it with. And 290 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.480 he came and visited me and here in Tennessee months ago, 291 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:44.000 and he had the gun with him and he pulled 292 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:47.120 it out. This thing is a beast, and so you know, 293 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.639 I don't know he but he did say that he 294 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:54.360 killed the thing. And so these are being tagged. 295 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.320 That's crazy enough, but that does lead a few options. 296 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:04.640 If they're being then they're being somehow tranquilized or caught 297 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:09.559 somehow and being tagged, or they're being like you said, 298 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.039 being designed, and both options are quite insane. 299 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:18.359 So so here's what's interesting is there's there's this pattern 300 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:22.960 that I'm starting to recognize recently of government facilities having weird, 301 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.640 cryptid interactions around the facility. So I had a guy 302 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:32.640 on my show. His name is James Shubski, I think 303 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.279 is how you pronounce his last name. He's in Washington 304 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:38.240 State and he has been breaking a lot of information 305 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.559 about what I think he came up with the name 306 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.240 of it. It's called the

click attat Ape Cat, and 307 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:47.359 it's people in click Attack County, Washington are saying they're 308 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:51.480 seeing this very large black cat with an ape looking 309 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:56.759 face and he kind of laughed it off until what 310 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.960 he owns an outdoor store and one of his workers 311 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:05.480 in his store, when they took a somebody's encounter with 312 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.799 this thing, she confirmed that she has seen the same thing. 313 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:10.720 And that's when he started taking a series because he 314 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.880 knew her and she was giving him information that he 315 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.960 felt like, Okay, well, I trust her, and so he 316 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.680 starts looking into it. I think they have right now 317 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:20.319 over the last year and a half that he's been 318 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:23.799 collecting stories over seventy encounters with this thing of people 319 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.359 talking about seeing this. And one of the theories is 320 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.920 that it might have come from Hanford Nuclear Facility because 321 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.720 apparently when Hanford was up in operational, one of the 322 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.400 things that was documented is that they brought in alligators 323 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.599 to patrol the waters of the river that's next to 324 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.119 the facility, and so they actually did some kind of 325 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:48.880 like I don't know if they actually did some kind 326 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.480 of like manipulation to the alligators, but twelve of the 327 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.880 I think it was twelve twelve alligators actually got loose 328 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.680 and they didn't know where they were, and so they 329 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.920 actually wound up having to hunt him down and they 330 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:05.240 got him all except for two winter set in and 331 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:07.920 they thought that, okay, there, you know, they're not going 332 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:12.359 to survive the Washington State temperatures during the winter time. 333 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.359 But he suggested that maybe they did survive because they 334 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:17.400 could have just hung out around the waters of the 335 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.359 nuclear facility because it's so warm of the water coming out, 336 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:23.960 that they would survive. That entered into this conversation of 337 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:28.200 could the click atat apecat be something that was designed 338 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:32.680 to protect these types of facilities, and he goes into 339 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.839 great detail about it was just that episode is a 340 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:37.240 couple of weeks old. I don't remember exactly what episode 341 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.359 number it was, but I think I called it The 342 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.400 Secret Guardian of Hanford. But then there's also here in Tennessee, 343 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.160 the old timers back when oak Ridge was being built, 344 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:51.359 which is a secret city. You know, it's where they 345 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.039 developed a nuclear bomb for World War Two. When they 346 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.599 were building that area, nobody knew it was being built. 347 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.839 But during that time of construction, the old farmers in 348 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:03.559 this area were saying that they were seeing a tall, 349 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.240 white bigfoot creature running around here, which doesn't seem natural 350 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:12.519 at all. And then we have in northern Pennsylvania, stretching 351 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.640 across the entire state into East Ohio, this legend of 352 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.160 a white Bigfoot. And we know that there's underground military 353 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.000 bases in Pennsylvania. There's Raven Rock, which is not Northern PA. 354 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.400 It's actually Southern PA. But many people suggest that there 355 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:30.279 is at least one other deep underground military base in Pennsylvania, 356 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.599 and we suggest that it might be in the Allegheny 357 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.839 National Force. It takes up at least one sixteenth of 358 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.359 the state of Pennsylvania. And then just today I got 359 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.599 an email from a guy talking about all this crazy 360 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:47.200 stuff in north Pennsylvania in Carbon County, Carbon County, Pennsylvania, 361 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.279 which is where, if I'm not mistaken, the White Carbondale 362 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.880 Bigfoot was filmed. So I'm not sure if Carbondale is 363 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.240 in Carbon County, but I know Carbon County is northern PA. 364 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.200 And he was talking about northeastern with certain cities, and 365 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.799 I know that's where Carbondale is. And so we have 366 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:05.640 this footage from I think two thousand and seven, two 367 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:09.000 thousand and eight, the Carbondale White Bigfoot that is online, 368 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:12.440 you can look it up and find it. But if 369 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:16.240 there's a white Bigfoot in Northern PA, on video, I 370 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:18.599 have this guy saying that there's a lot of interactions 371 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:20.880 that he had with a lot of mysterious things in 372 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.960 northern PA and he directly referred to deep underground military basis. 373

00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.079 And he also was a former government contractor. There's a 374 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:31.359 lot of threads to pull out here to suggest that 375 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.880 maybe the government is at least designing, if not retaining, 376 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:38.839 these creatures for their own purposes when they're trying to 377 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.039 keep people away from facilities they don't want them near. 378 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.720 That is insane. It always makes me wonder how deep 379 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:47.720 the rabbit hole goes when we're looking at what our 380 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:53.400 military industrial complex is capable of versus what we're might 381 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:58.079 be confusing with natural paranormal phenomena, which actually could be 382 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:02.480 some escaped creatures from this underground military facility. 383 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.480 Yeah, it's it's wild, I mean, and who knows, maybe 384 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.680 it's not escaped. I mean, I've heard stories of them 385 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.440 strategically releasing them at nights to go hunt and then 386 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:13.920 come back. They have trackers on them that actually call 387 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:18.039 them back. That's something that's unverifiable. It's just rumor that 388 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:21.599 I have heard. But you know, like I think we're 389 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:24.359 all anybody listening to your show and my show, I 390 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.119 think we're all well, beyond the idea of, oh, does 391 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:29.480 the government have that kind of technology? Of course the 392 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.640 government has that kind of technology. That's not even a question. 393 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.880 So it's a matter of do these things exist and 394 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.440 would they do such things? And if the answer is 395 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.079 yes to the first thing, the second thing is an 396 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:42.880 absolutely yes they would do it, then well. 397 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.440 Let's continue our journey through creepy creatures. And I want 398 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:50.079 to get to vampires. And I've heard you tell this 399 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:54.119 story about a well, I don't want to get too 400 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.039 deep into I'll tell let you get to the highlights 401 00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:59.440 because it's I know it's a long story, but if 402 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.279 you could tell the highlights of what this gentleman went 403 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.680 through with this desert cult. 404 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:08.519 It's wild, man, it's wild. In fact, I just got 405 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:12.119 a text message from him today because the member episode 406 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:14.359 I released today has to do with him. I actually 407 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.680 contacted an ex Satanic high wizard about this guy's story 408 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.480 to see what's what what's possible with it in the 409 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.519 world of black magic. And you know, just like I 410 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.200 got him for his newsletter, Like did you get the 411 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.079 newsletter yet? Is there anything new and updated? I need 412 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:32.720 to know some information. But yeah, so this guy James 413 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:36.039 contacted me and he had his story and I'm going 414 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.680 to try my best to summarize it, and me summarizing 415 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:40.880 it is going to be be me leaving out a 416 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:42.599 lot of details. This is an over a three hour 417 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.519 conversation where there was no break. 418 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.920 It was go listen to the episode, everyone. 419 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:50.799 Yeah, Episode five twelve Desert Portal Death Cult is what 420 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:55.759 it's called, and it's it's just a constant barrage of information. 421 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.559 So I'm going to do my best to summarize it. 422 00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:59.680 And if it doesn't make sense, just trust me. Listen 423 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.000 to the episode. It will make more sense. And I 424 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:07.680 promise you it is at least the second most amazing 425 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.039 episode I've ever put out. People argue that it might 426 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.359 be number one, above the secret military Knocking Technology one. 427 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.240 So James contacts me and he's in the movie industry. 428 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:23.000 He used to be in Atlanta and then he moved 429 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.279 to la to further his career, and this happened, I 430 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:30.519 believe in twenty twenty one when he moved. He goes 431 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:34.640 out there and shortly after he's out there, he's out 432 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.119 at a bar with his roommate and they're drinking, having 433 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:38.920 a good time. Says a Friday. I think it was 434 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.480 a Friday night. His friend goes to his roommate goes 435 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:45.039 to the bathroom, and while he's gone, this other guy 436 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.279 comes up to the table and just starts talking with him, 437 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.279 befriends him, and they just are hanging out and then 438 00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:53.440 his roommate comes back. They're all talking. It gets late. 439 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.680 They decide to leave, and this new friend of theirs 440 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.559 I believe his name is Mark or something. He we'll 441 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.400 just call him Mark for this story. He says, Hey, 442

00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.039 there's this other place that I love going to. You 443 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:07.599 guys want to come. They're like, yeah, sure, we'll go. 444 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:10.200 So it's late at night now. They run up to 445 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:17.279 this new place and immediately it seemed off and his roommate, 446 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.759 James's roommate said, dude, I'm not going in there. There's 447 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.160 like all these goth people walking in. He's like, it's 448 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.039 not my scene. Man, Like, I am not going in there. 449 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.039 I'm scared, and so he just he says I'm going home. 450 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:30.640 And so James is like, all right, man, i'll see 451 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:32.319 you later. I'm gonna go in. I think these people, 452 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:35.039 you know, what harm could it do? And so he 453 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:38.039 goes in and he talks about the inside and stuff 454 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.400 and what he saw, and it was. It was weird, 455 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.960 but it's what you would expect with a goth community, 456 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.359 you know, like if you're not used to it, you're 457 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.359 not from it and stuff, you might be a little 458 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:49.519 spooked out the lake. The night goes on, it gets 459 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.279 pretty late. Let's just say it was three o'clock in 460 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.079 the morning, now four o'clock in the morning. They leave 461 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.400 the bar and this new guy, Mark, his new friend 462 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:59.759 just says, you know, I'll drive you home, and so 463 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.920 they're heading home and on the way, Mark gets a 464 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.720 text message about a party in the desert and Joshua Tree, 465 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.119 and so he goes to the James, Hey, I really 466 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:13.880 want to go to this party out in the desert. 467 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.119 You want to come? And James is like, nah, man, 468 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.960 I just want to go home. I'm tired, And long 469 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:23.599 story short, Mark convinces James to agree to go out 470 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.880 to Joshua Tree. So they drive hours out the Joshua Tree. 471 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.880 They get out there early Saturday morning. The party's over 472 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.160 for the night, but it's an entire weekend of a rave, 473 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:35.680 and so they hang out during the day waiting for 474 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.640 nighttime to come. When they get there, Shortly after they 475 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.680 get there, a guy in a mad Hatter head comes 476 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:46.319 over and gives James a bracelet and says, you're VIP, 477 00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.279 And that kind of strikes you as odd because James 478 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.680 wasn't even planning on being there, He didn't buy tickets, 479 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.559 nobody knew James, and all of a sudden, James's VIP, 480 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.079 and looking back on it, it's like they were marking James 481 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.799 as somebody who's not part of the in crowd at 482 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:05.720 this place. And so he goes through the day and 483 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:08.799 things kind of it's it's a different kind of day, 484 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:11.799 you know, nothing too crazy, but you know, it is 485 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.599 what it is. James seems like the kind of guy 486 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.279 goes with the flow and likes experiencing life. He's very 487 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.440 much not like me. I just I like living my life. 488 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:21.319 I want to know what every hour holds. I want 489 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.119 to have it all planned out. And he's just like, hey, 490 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.960 let's just see what happens, you know. And so he's 491 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.200 going through his day and at one point he meets 492 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.799 this one guy who really nice guy, and he's like, hey, man, 493 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.000 here's an extra bed you can This is your bed. 494 00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:36.720 You can sleep on it anytime you need to sleep. 495 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.359 This is your spot right here. It's all yours, thanks man, 496 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:43.279 nice guy. He runs into another girl and she's kind 497 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.559 of like upset and crying and she's like, I don't 498 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:48.880 want to be here when night time comes, and he's like, 499 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.880 what's why, what's nighttime? She's just like shaking back and 500 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:53.799 forth like I don't want to be here. He has 501 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.400 no idea what happened to this girl, by the way, 502 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.640 he looked at looked her up after he got out 503 00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.799 of this situation. He did fight under one point, but 504 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.759 he can't remember what her instagram was. But he goes 505 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.359 through his day that's odd, And what really kind of 506 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:13.119 starts shifting gears is in the afternoon, he needs to 507 00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:15.480 go to the bathroom and there's a porta potty there, 508 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.759 and he goes into the porta potty and he takes 509 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.400 a leak. He's not in there long. He comes back 510 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.440 out and he said, he this is the first thing 511 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.920 he noticed that was weird. He comes out of the 512 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.559 porta potty and he looks around and

there's an obvious 513 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.640 change an amount of people in this area, Like it's 514 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.839 like all of a sudden, there's a lot more people here. 515 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.640 And he kind of thought that was really strange, And 516 00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.720 to be honest with you, as you hear the story, 517 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.400 I did venture with the idea of calling the episode 518 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.759 the porta Potty Portal, but I thought it sounded great, 519 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:50.079 but I didn't know if people would take it as 520 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:54.200 serious as I needed them to take it. So we 521 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.480 go through this day and nothing really crazy happens, but 522 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.880 then the party starts, and you know, he said that 523 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.920 during the day, people were saying, oh, wait till the 524 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.319 Twins get here. Apparently the Twins were these really famous DJs, 525 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.519 and I've had people looking up different DJs that were twins, 526 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.359 trying to ask if these were the people, and I 527 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.680 would send it to James and he's never confirmed that 528 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.400 any of the DJs that I have sent him were 529 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.160 the Twin DJs. And I'm like, how many Twin DJs 530 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:23.039 in the world can there be? So that right there 531 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.079 tells me that maybe these Twin DJs are more part 532 00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:31.200 of an underground not mainstream network. And when you hear 533 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:35.559 about the story, you're like, yeah, probably. So nighttime comes, 534 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.279 the party kicks off, and he goes into this big 535 00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.079 tent where the rave is happening, and he said, this 536 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.000 is where things just really get weird for him. He 537 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.200 starts seeing people who just look like vampires. They looked 538 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.599 like they were demonically possessed. In fact, I think he 539 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.400 even went as far as saying that he saw what 540 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.960 he could only describe as demons around him, and he's 541 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.759 like kind of freaking out a little bit, wondering if 542 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.599 he's been slipped to anything in his drink. He didn't 543 00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.160 think he was there was anything wrong with him as 544 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:10.839 far as the physical nature goes. I there's there's there's 545 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.480 details that he shares in the episode that really pushed 546 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.640 me in that direction of saying, you know, I don't 547 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.559 think this guy had any drugs in his system. I 548 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.440 know he didn't take any drugs, and he doesn't believe 549 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.319 that anybody slipped him anything. If they did slip him anything, 550 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.359 it would have had to be hours beforehand, and it 551 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.799 would have been a very delayed effect. So he starts 552 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.599 looking around and starts seeing all these people, I mean, 553 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.240 people with like, you know, fangs for teeth, and you know, 554 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.039 you can say, hey, that's generated like that, that's fake teeth. 555 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.799 People do weird things ray whatever. You know, it could 556 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.799 be just some kind of weird u LARPing vampire cult 557 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.000 in the desert, and so he's just kind of getting 558 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.359 freaked out and he asked the guy Mark, who's there. 559 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.440 He's like, you know, you're you seeing what I'm seeing. 560 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.240 And the guy's just like why I can't hear you? 561 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.799 Like why, like just kind of playing dumb, And eventually 562 00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.400 it got to the point where he had to get 563 00:30:58.440 --> 00:30:59.920 out of there and he leaves the ten. 564 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.319 Didn't he say that they were like children running at 565 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:08.079 extremely fast speeds around him, like leaving tracers and stuff. 566 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.559 Yes, yes, So my life is so weird that that's 567 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:16.079 minor to me, Like the stories I hear. I'm like, yeah, 568 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.359 of course, people running superhero so human speed like that 569 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.640 happens all the time, right, guys, right, Yeah, So he 570 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.160 did say that the first time I ever heard somebody 571 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.240 doing the superhuman speed. I think I've talked about this 572 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.079 story on your show and I will be releasing the 573 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:34.400 story soon. It's the whole interdimensional story with the guy 574 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.880 going to other realms and stuff. I am very close 575 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.240 to releasing that and I'm very excited about that. And 576 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.480 so he sees all that stuff and thank you for mine. 577 00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:45.960 Please feel free to jump in if I forgetting details, 578 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.680 because I haven't even thought about this story in months. 579 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.799 Right now, I'm just recalling on the top of my head. 580 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.599 So he leaves the tent and he sees that guy 581 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.119 that was really nice to him earlier,

and he goes 582 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:00.279 over and the guy just pretty much didn't want anything 583 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.880 to do with him. He's like, yo, man, I'm busy here, 584 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.440 just you know, and it's like, what do you mean busy? 585 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.720 Like we're at a party, Like like what, we don't 586 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.119 have jobs here, you know, like where are you punching 587 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.440 in at? And then his friend comes over with another 588 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:20.559 guy and he he starts talking to his friend about 589 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.680 what he saw and they're like, hey, man, you just 590 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.480 need to sleep it off. You just you just you're 591 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.079 tired and you just need to go to sleep. And 592 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.359 so they walked him over to this like truck or whatever, 593 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.680 and he sees that there's like this bed inside, and 594 00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:35.559 they said, why don't you just go lay down, And 595 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.279 so he starts climbing inside, and then he realizes that 596 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.519 if he gets inside, uh, and they closed the door, 597 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.519 it locks from the outside, and he felt very uncomfortable 598 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.519 and he didn't want to have to take the chance 599 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.880 of somebody locking him in this place because he was 600 00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:52.279 just at this point he was really rattled. He gets 601 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.519 out of the truck and he runs over to his 602 00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.759 his friend Mark and this other guy and he says, hey, guys, 603 00:32:57.799 --> 00:32:59.519 wait up, and they're like, aren't you going to take 604 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.079 a nap? Aren't going to sleep? And he's like, no, 605 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.400 I'm just you know, I'm not tired. And they just 606 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.319 whispered in each other's ears kind of suspiciously, and then 607 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.400 they just went back into the tent. And at this point, 608 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.240 I think maybe at this point is when he walked 609 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.400 over to the guy that was really nice or whatever, 610 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.559 but he's not in the tent and he's facing the tent, 611 00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.440 and this is where like it got crazy. All of 612 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:26.559 a sudden, the tent shoots up into the sky and 613 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.680 people start flying up into the sky and a green 614 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.759 portal opens up underneath the tent, and he's just like 615 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:40.119 freaked out at this whole thing. His phone is glitching 616 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.440 at this time as well. I think he said that 617 00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.680 he tried taking pictures of it at this moment. I 618 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:47.640 don't remember. I know he took pictures throughout the weekend 619 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.559 because I know exactly where this happened based off of 620 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.920 the coordinates of where his pictures were taken. I was 621 00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:54.119 able to pull that metadata off because I'm a sleuth 622 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.920 like that, But so I don't I know he had 623 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.680 glitching with his phone this during this time where his 624 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.960 phone wasn't working, and it was really bizarre how it 625 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.480 wasn't working. He he kind of takes off running down 626 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.920 this road of like RV's or something when this happens, 627 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.920 and he comes across like people, I think it was 628 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.480 like around a campfire or something, and they're just kind 629 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.719 of like laughing at him, and the one person's like, 630 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.440 you have no idea what you're about to get into, 631 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.920 and he's like, well, what you know? And so he 632 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.320 just kind of keeps running like the opposite direction, and 633 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.280 he winds up running across these these other people in 634 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.360 these cloaks, and we assume they're people. Maybe they were, 635 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:40.360 they're not people. Based off information I've gotten after this 636 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.400 show aired from other people, other people have had really 637 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.239 similar and bizarre experiences in Joshua Tree, including cloaked people 638 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.199 and cloaked people in other realms. That's a wild story. 639 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.920 I can't even go too far into it because the 640 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.639 guy that told me about it has pretty much ghosted 641 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.400 me since I asked him to come on my show. 642 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.880 But he but this guy, he actually sent me proof 643 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.440 of his claims in the sense that because he basically 644 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.360 he and sidetracked from the story I'm telling, he took. 645 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.960 This guy reached out and he said that he can 646 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.559 confirm Joshua Tree is crazy because he went missing in 647 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.360 Joshua Tree for like three or four days. And while 648 00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.960 he was gone in Joshua Tree, he feels like he 649 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:26.199 slipped into another dimension because he was interacting with these 650 00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.920 shadow Cloak figures in this other dimension. And then he 651 00:35:29.039 -->

00:35:33.800 sent me news articles, like like videos on YouTube of 652 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.360 local news in that area talking about him being missing. 653 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:41.280 And then he reappeared and they're like, where have you been. 654 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.599 He's like, I don't know, and so like and that's 655 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.719 where and I'm like, dude, you gotta come on the show, 656 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.239 and he's like, crickets. So anyways, James encounters these Cloak 657 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.119 people and when he encounters them, they're standing around a 658 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.599 burning pentagram in the ground and they point they point 659 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.079 at him, and he just starts taking off. They start 660 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.719 chasing him, and as he's trying to run out of 661 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.480 this whole party, situation. He gets to like, say, the 662 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.920 edge of the party or the property, whatever it is. 663 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.039 It's not really a property. It's literally in the middle 664 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.119 of the desert, but like the edge of this whole thing. 665 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.840 He starts feeling like there's something that he's pushing through. 666 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.159 He can't see it, but it's like he's physically trying 667 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.000 to push through an invisible force that's almost there to 668 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:31.320 retain him. And he just keeps pushing and pushing it 669 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.400 and he's really not making much ground. And he said, 670 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.360 he doesn't know why he said this, he's not a 671 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.840 religious person, but he started calling out to the name 672 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:43.000 of Jesus and it started slowly releasing him, allowing him 673 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.480 to get through. As he's pushing through, these people or 674 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.320 whatever they are are chasing after him, and this is 675 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.840 where people are like this dude's definitely on something, which 676 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.039 again for me, the things that I've heard in my life, 677 00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:59.719 I don't think he was on things. If he was 678 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.599 on something, it still doesn't negate the fact that I've 679 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:03.960 heard things that are very similar to this, and maybe 680 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:08.280 everybody's on something, though I don't know. So he says 681 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.159 that as he's running through the desert, the ground breaks 682 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.400 open in front of him and like hands are coming out, 683 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.880 and so like that's the part that people are like, 684 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.440 this guy's crazy, like he's straight up on something. But 685 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.679 he this is where my memory is just really becoming 686 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.599 foggy on it. But he basically gets through this whole situation. 687 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.599 He does run through the desert and he comes across 688 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.199 a hospital where he goes into the er room or 689 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:39.679 a lobby of some sort and his phone is completely dead, 690 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.599 and so he's trying to find somebody with a cord 691 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.079 to charge his phone so he can call for an uber. 692 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.760 He somebody. They asked him that like do you want 693 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.480 do you want us to call the police? And he's like, no, 694 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.840 I just I just need to charge my phone, and 695 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.480 so they they gave him a cord, he charges his 696 00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.079 phone up. He it turns on. Once he gets away 697 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.840 from this area, it turns on and he calls an uber, 698 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.280 which costs him like over five hundred dollars by the 699 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.960 time he was able to get back to la and 700 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:11.039 he he gets out of the situation. The next day though, 701 00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.039 he gets a phone call from the guy Mark who 702 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.440 took him out there, and he didn't answer, but Mark 703 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.000 let the voicemail, and Mark says, hey, man, you know, 704 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.360 I didn't see where you went last night, and I 705 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.280 was just, you know, wondering if you're okay. You know, 706 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.360 hopefully you got home okay. And he Mark's done leaving 707 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.159 the voicemail. But Mark doesn't hang up the phone, and 708 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.880 you hear Mark set the phone down and Mark said, 709 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.400 if somebody says to Mark, do you think he's going 710 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.280 to tell anybody? And and Mark's like, I don't think 711 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.960 he's going to tell anybody. And I told James, I 712 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.199 was like, please tell me you still have that voicemail. 713 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.719 And he can't find it. I'm like, oh, James, like 714 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:52.280 that would be amazing. So I still hold a hope 715 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.199 that somehow he could find that voicemail. But after the 716 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.039 show aired and stuff. I mean, he sent me this 717 00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:59.800 person that the person that took him out there. He 718 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.320 said me, the person's instagram, And I've been able to 719 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:05.000 look at the person's Instagram and the person's instagram is 720 00:39:05.079 -->

00:39:12.079 straight up like cultic, just very culty, lots of satanic symbolism, 721 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.679 and you know, so that that story is it's a 722 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.280 wild one. He he does come across. I think it 723 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.480 was off the property in his research, but some kind 724 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:26.800 of like kitchen or diner that he was like maybe 725 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.000 doing research on that that has a lot of like 726 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.599 vampire activity that when he went on Reddit, he saw 727 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.960 there was a lot of people talking about like there 728 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.400 was questions like, hey, hasn't anybody ever gone to whatever 729 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.840 kitchen and Joshua Tree and seen vampires? You know, it 730 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.239 was that kind of thing. It turns out this area 731 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.519 is very well known for or cults, uh, And I 732 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.480 was told that by several people. After this episode aired, 733 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.159 I was contacted by a soldier who is in charge 734 00:39:58.159 --> 00:39:59.880 it works at or at least he used to be 735 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.880 on twenty nine Palms, which isn't far from Joshua Tree, 736 00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:06.800 and he was in charge of basically the bad apples 737 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.519 in the military, guys who were getting kicked out of 738 00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.800 the military and they're just waiting for the paperwork to process. 739 00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.239 He was in charge of keeping an eye on those guys. 740 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.079 But apparently those guys could go off base when they 741 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.599 wanted to because they were kind of this like weird 742 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:20.159 limbo spot where I guess, you know, you're not a 743 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.199 soldier technically, but technically you are. And so this one 744 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.880 guy was living off base and he was just a 745 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:30.320 weird guy. And one day he asked my guest, which, 746 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.920 by the way, the guy who contacted me, who's a soldier, 747 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.639 his name was James as well, so we got two 748 00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:40.880 James's here, but Marine James, not the movie guy. James 749 00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.800 said that this weird guy asked him to take him 750 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.400 out to a party in the desert of Joshua Tree. 751 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.159 And this is where he said, I had to contact 752 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.199 you because everything James was describing, as far as the 753 00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.000 location goes, he has seen before. Because this guy asked 754 00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.000 him to take him to a party in the desert, 755 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.039 and he

said, sure, to come out to this party, 756 00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.639 and he said that he remembers it was on a weekend. 757 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.320 And he rolls up to this like rave party thing 758 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.239 in the desert of Joshua Tree and he drops the 759 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:10.800 guy off and the guy said, hey, do you want 760 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.559 to stay, and he's like, no, it's not my scene, 761 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.159 and he just goes on his way. He had a 762 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.159 lot more things to say about that guy. Apparently the 763 00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.880 guy at one day one day didn't show up to base, 764 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:22.760 so him and a bunch of other soldiers went to 765 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.199 go pick him up. And when they arrived to where 766 00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.719 he lives. He was living with a bunch of younger 767 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.440 people and they were all calling him father, and he 768 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.440 was calling them his children. And so, like I'm telling you, like, 769 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.519 this area is just full of like cult, I guess. 770 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:42.639 But so there's this like real like cult aspect of it. 771 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:48.559 There's been just numerous people contacted me about this stuff. 772 00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:50.960 And when it comes to the vampire aspect of things, 773 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:52.920 you can go down the road of oh, it's just 774 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:56.920 a stupid cult and they pretend to be vampires. Sure, maybe, 775 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:01.280 but there's also a real sect of people that are 776 00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.280 much more serious about their satanic path in life. And 777 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.599 I have been told that they do try to transform 778 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.360 their bodies into being vampires. I have been told that 779 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.880 they reach certain levels within whatever this is that it's like, 780 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.719 I guess, maybe a privilege. I don't know, that they 781 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:25.639 have to choose between becoming a werewolf or a vampire. 782 00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.639 And the person I had talked to said that he 783 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.920 chose vampire because he ran into a werewolf years before, 784 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.280 and that person told him that to choose vampire because 785 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.079 becoming a werewolf is the most painful thing you'll ever 786 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.599 do in your life. And so he described me as 787 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.599 the process of becoming a vampire. And again this could 788 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.599 be people who are just crazy people trying to become 789 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:54.960 vampires that just doing impossible things, like it's not possible, right, 790 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.440 but he said that what they do, what he did 791 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.239 for months is he was, first of all, he was 792 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.880 the high priest of a Satanic church, and he had 793 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:15.800 basically got his diet down to wafer wafer crackers and 794 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.400 human blood. And he would have women come over to 795 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.760 his home and allow him to drink their blood. And 796 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.800 so you know, they would go anywhere from allowing him 797 00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:30.480 to literally bite their neck to just more ritualistic purpose 798 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:35.239 purposes to suck on their neck or cutting themselves and 799 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.920 draining their blood to allow him to drink. But part 800 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.159 of this ritual is that, for let's just say three months, 801 00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.760 all you do is eat these wafers and human blood. 802 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.920 Very unhealthy, very unhealthy. Yeah, but but yeah, So, I mean, 803 00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.000 I hear these things, and what do I do with it? 804 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.119 I mean, I'm just a guy that I talk to 805 00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.719 people about their crazy experiences. And then throughout the last 806 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.920 seven years of doing this, I'm coming up on almost 807 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.320 six hundred episodes. I've talked to way more than six 808 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.639 hundred people like you start piecing puzzles together, and uh 809 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.159 and and I'm at the point now where you I 810 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.039 no longer care a whole lot about how people view 811 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.400 the information I have or how I think about things, 812 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.239 because I'm so far down the rabbit hole on this 813 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:25.159 stuff that it's it takes up too much energy to 814 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.960 come back up to the surface of this rabbit hole 815 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.639 and tell everybody, Okay, this is where it all began. 816 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.840 Now come with me, step by step on on how 817 00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:35.280 I got to where I'm at. What am I supposed 818 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:36.840 to do to do that for every group? Keep on, 819 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.679 I'm not a tourist guide, you know, like like, I'm 820 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.760 just a guy that I'm on my own path and 821 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.800 I'm on my own discovery here. So people who have 822 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.159 been listening to the show for years that and are 823 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:52.119 are are like actual listeners, you know, like I mean physically, 824 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.159 they're they're listening. They're not just having it on in 825 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.880 the

background. Those are people who tend to get it. 826 00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.760 They're driving, they're they're they're flowing with We may not 827 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.440 come to the same conclusions, we may not believe everything 828 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.320 the same, but they understand generally how I'm getting to 829 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.519 where I'm at whether they believe it or not. It's 830 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.760 the people who are just coming across me right now 831 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.800 on your show who are gonna be the ones who 832 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.920 are like, this dude, this dude crazy, and I'm like, 833 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.159 I'm not. I promise you I'm not crazy. I just 834 00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.519 I have been. I have been inundated with a lot 835 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.920 of information over the last seven years doing this stuff, 836 00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.760 and you can't help yourself but to start drawing conclusions, 837 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.119 because like, I'd be no better than the people I 838 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:33.840 was talking about earlier, who started twenty thirty years ago 839 00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:38.000 researching Bigfoot and still refuse to acknowledge any interdimensional aspect 840 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.679 to it or at least give thought to the claims. 841 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.000 So like, I'd be no better than those people. If 842 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.320 I'm doing this for seven seven years, over six hundred people, 843 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.599 well over six hundred people I've talked to, and I'm 844 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.920 still just saying, hmm, no, not possible. I can't. I'm 845 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.039 not even gonna go there, like I can't do that. 846 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.440 I have to piece things together. I can't help myself. 847 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.760 And so, yeah, I think that there's a real interdimensional aspect. 848 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.039 I do think that people pursue vampire lifestyles if that's 849 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:08.760 what you want to call it. I think that there 850 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:13.719 is a real aspect of the werewolf nature, and there's 851 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.960 many different sources of where they come from. I think 852 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:18.639 there could be good. 853 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.400 Well, while we're in werewolf territory, and you just mentioned 854 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.920 the sources of where they could come from. I've had recently, 855 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.280 I've had a shaman that gave his insights into the 856 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.000 skin walker and how some of these beings might manifest. 857 00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.559 Now you were talking about a ritual that physically transformed 858 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.280 someone into a werewolf. This gentleman was talking about the 859 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.480 native practices of wearing the pelt and projecting yourself as 860 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.559 this animal spirit. And then there's another where he believes 861 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:56.920 there is this metaphysical slash physical, inner dimensional dog creature being. 862 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.440 So apparently, based on many accounts, there is different types 863 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.800 of dog like beings out there. What do you think 864 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:05.239 about that? 865 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:10.679 Yes to everything, Yes to everything. I agree one So 866 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.079 when we when we shot Expedition, dog Man Ward, my cameraman, 867 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.840 who is like the theological person on our team. I mean, 868 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.519 he really keeps us grounded. Uh, you know, like we 869 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.639 all my team didn't plan it this way, but we're 870 00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.199 all Christians and so of all of us. Ward is 871 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:32.639 the one that is the most theologically driven person, and 872 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.639 we kind of run checks through wards like hey, what 873 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.719 do you think about this? Like if we are we 874 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.639 are we pushing online? We shouldn't be pushing if we're 875 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:41.400 trying to open this portal, like just you know, be 876 00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.639 honest with me. H Ward is the one that brought 877 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.760 it up for exhibition dog Man how people will wear 878 00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:52.320 cloaks during rituals and is it possible that people who 879 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:56.239 are encountering dog Man or were wolves are not encountering 880 00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.719 anything of the sort, but rather coming underneath the spell 881 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.360 of somebody who is projecting that image wearing a pelt 882 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.719 because they're doing a ritual and what you're perceiving is 883 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.039 what they're projecting. I think that's a very real possibility, 884 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:12.400 but you'd have to come to the foundational understanding that 885 00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:14.639 magic is real to begin with. If you can't even 886 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:18.280 agree on that, then what I just said is an impossibility. 887 00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:24.920 But then there's the interdimensional aspect. So there's no doubt 888 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.320 in my mind that there's an indimensional aspect. Whether it's 889 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.599 somebody doing a ritual and they get so far in 890 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.639 the ritual that now they're interdimensional or if it's a 891 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.519 whole other creature that walks on hind legs, canine coming 892 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:41.760 in and out of portals or dimensions. So

there have 893 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:45.599 been claims witches in schools of mystery, people who are 894 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.920 going to schools to be witches and learn witchcraft. I 895 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.440 have been told by my friend Shane Cashman, who works 896 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.400 over Timcast with Tim Poole. He sat down and interviewed 897 00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.079 a woman who was in such a school, and she said, 898 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.960 when they were learning how to open portals, they opened 899 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.800 a portal and an upright walking dog came through. That's 900 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.559 where the story ends. I'm like, what'd you do? Like 901 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.639 I said, dude, get me in touch with this lad. 902 00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.559 I got to talk to her like what did you do? 903 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.159 Did it come and just stand there look at you? 904 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.719 Did you have some kind of magical lasso to get it? 905 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:21.880 Like? 906 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.199 What are we talking about here? But then there's also 907 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.400 the very real thing that happened. Let's just say five 908 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.119 years ago. I really don't remember how long it was, 909 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.679 but there was a guy on Facebook who went on 910 00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:37.840 his Facebook made a Facebook post about how he just 911 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.840 saw an upright walking dog out back. 912 00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:41.800 I saw that one. 913 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.039 Yeah, like the most amazing thing about this is the 914 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.880 story behind it because he had people commenting about it. 915 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.079 So he's like, all right, suckers, I'll show you, and 916 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.239 he goes on Facebook Live. This is not a pre 917 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:59.360 recorded video, this is Facebook Live, and within three minutes 918 00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:03.480 of this thirty minute Facebook Live that he did, he 919 00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:05.639 is out there and he's showing people where he saw 920 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.480 this thing, and all of a sudden, on video, you 921 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:11.440 see this very large running canine on two legs go 922 00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:15.760 underneath like a streetlight, and it's translucent. So like, as 923 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.079 soon as it's translucent, I'm like, bro, that's interdimensional. And 924 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.639 then he reacts for the next twenty five minutes about 925 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.199 what he just saw with people live, like other people 926 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.360 saw it live, and they're commenting about what they saw, 927 00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:29.760 and he's reacting to what they're saying in the comments 928 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.719

like like it was. It is probably one of the 929 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.960 best pieces of evidence I've ever seen of dog Man, 930 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:40.199 let alone interdimensional dog Man, because of the scenario around it. 931 00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.239 It is not It's not a recorded video where hey, 932 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.280 I'm out in the woods, I took my phone out, 933 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.159 hit record on my phone, and here I'm posting it now. 934 00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.679 This was all live on Facebook It wasn't like it 935 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.599 was an off source thing. This was on Facebook Live. 936 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.079 I don't know how you fake something like that. And 937 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.320 then when you see the person that is doing the filming, 938 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.280 unless he is acting, he does not strike me as 939 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:09.039 technologically savvy kind of guy. He just seems like a 940 00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.920 kind of guy that just doesn't tech at all. And so, yeah, 941 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.039 I mean, I don't know what you ask for me 942 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.400 to go on that ramp, but yeah, interdimensional dog man 943 00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:19.000 for sure. 944 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.960 Now, yeah, we're talking about the different types of werewolf creatures, 945 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:28.039 whether it's you transforming yourself through ritual or projections, or 946 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.760 these actual creatures coming through different dimensions. You talked about 947 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:38.239 the cults, the different dark adepts that based on whatever 948 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.719 area they're practicing in, is in whatever types of magical 949 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.119 practices that they are working with, is the possibilities of 950 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.400 what they could be conjuring. I talked to Ryan Burns, 951 00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:54.039 our mutual friend, a little while back about these cults 952 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.880 in his area that are summoning things in Skinwalker Ranch, 953 00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.599 and man, that's a hell of a place to be 954 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.760 doing stuff like that. But it seems like there are 955 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:06.440 these different energetic areas around the country where they have 956 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.880 more of a concentration of this cult like activity. 957 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.960 Right, Yeah, no, absolutely, And it makes me wonder, I mean, 958 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.239 is it that it's the area or the area that 959 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.960 people believe in, you know, so like is it literally 960 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.599 this area that they're that they're like, let's just go 961 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.840 and do these you know, practices and casting of spells 962 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.920 and trying

to you know, do all this stuff. Is 963 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.760 it that they believe the area is prone for that 964 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.719 kind of activity or is it that they are how 965 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:41.480 do I say? It's like it is it that they 966 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:43.840 believe that it's prone to that activity or is it 967 00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.320 actually prone to that activity and they're doing it in response? 968 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:47.000 Does that make sense? 969 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.599 Like lots of places in the desert seem to have 970 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:56.280 this special mystical occult aspect where secret societies, magical groups 971 00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.519 go out there and do their rituals and try to 972 00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:00.760 conjuct entities. 973 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.400 Yeah, it's like is it magical or is it that 974 00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.960 they are making it magical? And can both be the same? 975 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:10.719 You know? I think that I would argue yes, because 976 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.440 if you're making it magical, it is magical then, But 977 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.960 is it actually a magical place that you're doing the 978 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:18.760 magic in response to? Or is it that you are 979 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.480 charging the area with your magic because you believe that 980 00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.280 this is a great space place for that's kind of activity. 981 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.159 And so I don't know, And there's arguments for both sides, 982 00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.519 and I'd be happy to I'd be happy on both sides. 983 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.239 I don't really care. It's like it's just fascinating. But yeah, 984 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:38.599 I mean, these desert areas are definitely and I don't 985 00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.760 understand it in the sense that like when you think 986 00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:44.880 about like a lot of people talk about energies and 987 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:48.039 things like that, you like, is there that much energy 988 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:49.719 in the desert? I don't know. I know the sun 989 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.480 hits it hard, but like, you know, I would think that, 990 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:55.360 you know, in the middle of a forest with tons 991 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.960 of life and trees, like, there's energy there. I have 992 00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.719 pictures of of a portal, a green portal opening up 993 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.960 in the forest of Kentucky, Like that's what I'm talking about. 994 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.119 Like when you talk when you go to like the desert, 995 00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.320 there's nothing there, like why is it so magical? You know? 996 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.119 And I don't understand it. I'm sure there's probably I 997 00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:19.079 know there's reasons for it, but I mean then you 998 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.039 even have like was like burning man, I don't know 999 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.320 much about Burning Man, you know, but I know that 1000 00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:27.679 the Joshua Tree Desert Portal death cult that was like 1001 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:28.400 a burning It. 1002 00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:30.480 Does seem like there's more of a lot of these 1003 00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.519 really darker death or blood cults that are utilizing the 1004 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:37.119 desert for these rituals. 1005 00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:40.559 There's a there's at least a small percentage of people 1006 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:44.039 out there that they're not up to any good, like 1007 00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:47.840 that what they want is nefarious means. I've talked to 1008 00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.320 like this guy's not even part of a cult. Like 1009 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.480 I talked to a witch in British Columbia years ago. 1010 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.719 He's not part of a cult. He's not part of 1011 00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:57.920 a coven. He is self practicing on his own. And 1012 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.440 he told me that sometimes people just need to be 1013 00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.920 smacked upside the head with this stuff, and and he's 1014 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.920 happy to do so. So like he tried, like so 1015 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.400 he was he was studying to be a pastor, and 1016 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:12.320 he decided that he was going to study the occult 1017 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.800 to just learn about it so that he kind of 1018 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.079 understood the other side of things of what he's preaching on, right, 1019 00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:21.840 And in that process he became so attracted to it 1020 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.440 that he became a witch. And he started this journey 1021 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.239 of witchcraft and trying to understand it what works best 1022 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.440 for him, and he tried he tried Wickan and when 1023 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:34.599 he tried Wicken, that's when he said, He's like, it's 1024 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:36.559 just too soft for me. Sometimes people need to get 1025 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.880 smacked hard, and I couldn't do it with Wicken. And 1026 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:45.400 so he also said that he is a city bus 1027 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:49.360 driver and he will practice his spells on people that 1028 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:50.199 ride his bus. 1029 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:51.079 No. 1030 00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.639 Yeah, And so like when you talk about nefarious, like 1031 00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.920 to me, that's nefarious, Like like I don't even think 1032 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.320 he would say that's not nefarious. I mean, dude, like 1033 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.800 you talk about consent, you know, like nobody's consenting to 1034 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.039 this and so,

and to practice, you don't even know 1035 00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:09.840 what you're doing to them. If you're practicing, it's not 1036 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.159 like you're totally sure. You're like I think, let me 1037 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.239 practice on this person over here before I really want 1038 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.079 to hurt this person over here, you know, like I 1039 00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.920 wanted to work on this side. So, uh, yeah, there's 1040 00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.360 definitely people that are nefarious about it, But I do 1041 00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.880 think there's a large chunk of people, and just based 1042 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:28.000 off my own interactions with people that I don't necessarily 1043 00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.960 think that it's a good thing to be doing, but 1044 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.239 for them, the way they perceive it, they're just like, yeah, 1045 00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.800 this is this is good, this is really it feels great, 1046 00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:38.039 and you know, I feel like I'm one with the 1047 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:39.679 universe when I do it kind of thing. 1048 00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.800 Well, the last few minutes, we have what are your 1049 00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:47.079 thoughts on the quote unquote alien bodies that came out 1050 00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:50.639 of Peru recently that were presented by the Mexican government 1051 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:52.400 that look like paper mache dolls. 1052 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:58.039 Yeah, the sand castles, right, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1053 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:01.280 I mean I don't know, Like listen, there's a lot 1054 00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:03.320 of like bait and switch going on right now with 1055 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.519 these governments. And I think that they knew that World 1056 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:09.079 War three is right around the corner. I think they 1057 00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:11.440 were conditioning us for what we're about to see in 1058 00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:16.480 world warfare. Like, if you don't think we're going to 1059 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.039 see UFOs involved in World War three, you're crazy. Like, 1060 00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:25.400 whether that's an illusion through Project Bluebeam or it's actual 1061 00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:28.480 technology that they reverse engineered and they're planning on using it. 1062 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.519 I think that they've been disclosing this information in preparation 1063 00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.239 of using it on a global scale. And so why 1064 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.920 not go with the narrative of aliens and all that stuff, 1065 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.800 whether aliens are real or not, Like we're not going 1066 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.000 to argue that, Like I go both on both sides 1067 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.719 of it. I could say that aliens are interdimensional beings 1068 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.800 and they have much more demonic nature than anything. But 1069 00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:51.480 then there's also the argument that they're from other galaxies, 1070 00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:55.559 and I'm like, yeah, that's probably possible too. But the 1071 00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:00.760 idea that the government in Mexico comes out and shows 1072 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.880 these things and one wants us to take it serious, 1073 00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.480 especially the person who brought it forward a vy lobe. 1074 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:09.559 I think it was who brought it forward. I mean, 1075 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.800 I don't know much about the guy well they have. 1076 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.679 I think it was Jimi Massan who actually brought out 1077 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:17.639 these things. 1078 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:21.559 Yeah, yeah, Heimi, and so like I had heard, I've 1079 00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:23.760 heard things about Haimi as far as like you know, 1080 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:28.440 I think he's the one who all show done before. Yeah, 1081 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.239 like that the fairy, the fairy fossil or whatever it 1082 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.760 was that came out like five years ago, Like he's like, 1083 00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.719 this is an ancient alien faerry or whatever. I don't 1084 00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:38.119 remember what it was, but it turned out to be 1085 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.039 completely built, pre built and fake. Ye and so here's 1086 00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:45.480 the thing. You don't think the Mexican government knows that, 1087 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:49.039 and yet they still brought in something that he was 1088 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.159 bringing to the table. He brings, he brings. Let's just 1089 00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.880 say he was being honest about the faery or whatever 1090 00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:58.039 that little creature was, and he was duped. How many 1091 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.039 times do you do you think he's gonna have the 1092 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:03.960 opportunity to have groundbreaking discoveries I got to be presented 1093 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.519 on a global scale, like I haven't done one yet, 1094 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:07.760 you know what I mean? Like, I don't even have 1095 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.079 anybody coming to be saying they have bodies of anything. 1096 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:14.280 And I'm a very large paranormal podcast that focuses on 1097 00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:18.360 stories of such. And he coming out and he's like, 1098 00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.039 you know, now I got alien bodies. And then the 1099 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:24.000 Mexican government takes out and like, yes, this is real. 1100 00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:25.480 Let's put it out to the world. 1101 00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:26.679 What I heard. 1102 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.840 They will be rolling out a craft next, and I 1103 00:59:29.840

--> 00:59:31.239 think it's going to come out of Mexico. 1104 00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:33.800 Of course they're going to roll out of craft next 1105 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.239 and listen, I think that there's real possibility. And my 1106 00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.840 other in my office next door, I got two autocraft 1107 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.960 hangings of Bob Blazar hanging on the wall like I'm 1108 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.679 a Bob Blazar fan. I think that we have been 1109 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.480 reverse engineering technology. I think that we do have this stuff, 1110 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:54.159 and I do think that they're ready to rock with 1111 00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:58.000 it in military actions. I think that what we've been seeing, 1112 00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:02.159 Let's just say that the pilots are completely innocent in this, 1113 01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.400 and they're they're they're coming out and they're saying, yeah, 1114 01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.599 I interacted with UFOs on a mission and we're doing 1115 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:10.559 test flights and all of a sudden, this thing's there. Right, 1116 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.559 Let's just say that's their story is true. That's fine. 1117 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.320 I think what personally, this is just Tony speaking. I 1118 01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:18.840 think what's been going on is that our government has 1119 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.280 been reverse engineering this stuff for a very long time. 1120 01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.800 And throughout the time of reverse engineering, at times they 1121 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.559 will send it out and test it on our pilots 1122 01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.400 to see how our pilots react to seeing this craft 1123 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.679 and how maneuvers in the sky, so they can take 1124 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.159 that data and then understand it so when they put 1125 01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.280 it into real time war scenario, they can predict how 1126 01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.880 the enemy pilots will do the same exact thing. I 1127 01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:42.840 think when you when we were talking about World War three, 1128 01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.519 right now, I think rolling out in the very near future, 1129 01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.960 you're gonna start seeing UFOs used in military actions and 1130 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.320 it's it's I'm here for it all, like I have 1131 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:56.679 my popcorn ready, like, but uh, it's gonna it's gonna 1132 01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:57.760 be very fascinating for sure. 1133 01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:01.360 Yeah, it's definitely interesting times, Tony. I know you got 1134 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.199 to take off. Thank you so much for coming on 1135 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.440 today Before you go, remind the audience where to find 1136 01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:10.599 everything and how they can get all your films. 1137 01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.199 Yeah. First I want to say to everybody, I apologize. 1138 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:14.880 I can only give you an hour. I wish I 1139 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.159 could give you more. I just I was late to 1140 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.079 the studio today and I have to pick up my 1141 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.320 son from school, so it's my fault. But if you want, 1142 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.360 if you want to check out all the stuff that 1143 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:27.159 I do, Like I said, the podcast, it started everything 1144 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:29.480 that I do. It's called The Confessionals. I interview people 1145 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.440 on their paranormal experiences, from abductions, bigfoot, dog man, you 1146 01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.360 name it, we talk about it, and then that branch 1147 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.159 down into Merkele Media, where we really right now focus 1148 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.960 on filmmaking. We go out to locations that have been 1149 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.880 featured on my show and we spend around a week 1150 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:49.880 there investigating the environment around us and seeing what happens. 1151 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.239 And we're also coming out with a movie next year 1152 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.880 called a Sasquologist, And so if you want to see 1153 01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.039 the two films we come out with and be tuned 1154 01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:02.199 into future films, check in at Merkele dot Media. That's 1155 01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:06.800 where you can get all that information. And soon I'll 1156 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:11.559 be posting either a phone number to text to have 1157 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:16.199 direct access to releases or a newsletter. I'm undecided as 1158 01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:18.039 to which angle I want to go to. I thinking 1159 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.440 I'm going to go with the phone number angle because 1160 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.719 I don't know if you know this, but most newsletters 1161 01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.920 have about a fifteen to twenty percent open rate. If 1162 01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.119 you have a thirty percent open rate on your newsletters, 1163 01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:33.519 you're doing really well. And that's not good enough for me. 1164 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:36.760 When you have a text message community that has a 1165 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.599 ninety plus percent open rate, you think about it when 1166 01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.119 you text somebody, Especially even if you get a text 1167 01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.039 message from somebody that you don't know, you don't recognize 1168 01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.079 a number, you still open it to look at it. 1169 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.039 And so I think I want to have that more access. 1170 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.880 So soon there will be a number more than likely 1171 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.079 posted on Merkele dot

media that you can text and 1172 01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:56.719 then you'll be registered to get updates from us when 1173 01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:58.880 we have them. So yeah, Merkle dot media. 1174 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.320 Awesome. Hey, thank you so much. Have a great hol today. 1175 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.400 I want to welcome doctor Rita Luise. She's a gifted 1176 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:10.559 EmPATH and talented clairfoyant medical intuitive. She is a naturopathic 1177 01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:15.000 physician and the founder of the Institute of Applied Energetics. 1178 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:20.199 A trained students in the art of medical intuition, intuitive counseling, 1179 01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:25.119 and energy medicine. She has authored six books and produced 1180 01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.320 several feature length and short films. She's appeared on radio, television, 1181 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.000 and in the movies, and has lecture on health and healing, ghosts, intuition, 1182 01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:40.320 ancient mysteries, and the paranormal. Doctor Rita welcome, How you doing. 1183 01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:42.599 I am doing great. 1184 01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.000 I am so glad to be here with you today, 1185 01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:46.880 and I think we're gonna have a lot fun. 1186 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.880 Oh yes, we have definitely got lots to talk about. 1187 01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.679 You research and write about everything from ghosts and ancient 1188 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:56.920 mysteries to health and healing, all topics. We love here 1189 01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.840 very much, and I'm sure we're gonna dip our toes 1190 01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:02.519 in as many of those as possible, as well as 1191 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:06.519 your latest book, which is about dysfunctional relationships. Yeah, there's 1192 01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.480 no topic fken, well at least poke a stick at 1193 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.440 So we're going to go everywhere. Now this is your 1194 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.320 first time on though, I'd love it if you could 1195 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:16.760 tell us a little bit more about yourself, your background, 1196 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:19.119 and what led you down your current path. 1197 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:23.000 Well, you know, I've had two loves in life. 1198 01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:27.159 The first was archaeology and anthropology, which I fell in 1199 01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:28.440 love with in fifth grade. 1200 01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.320 And then the other. 1201 01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:34.480 One was psychic stuff, which you know, back in the 1202 01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:40.320 day it was called esp extrasensory perception, and I fell 1203 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:42.760 in love with that when I was twelve. And so, 1204 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.960 you know, I've had day jobs and but I found 1205 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.880 it interesting, you know, in reflection a few

years ago, 1206 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:52.519 that those were my first. 1207 01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:54.519 Loves and lives and in life. 1208 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.119 And that's really kind of the path I've been on 1209 01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.840 my whole life, you know, is doing this kind of 1210 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:03.599 work and doing this kind of research. And you know, 1211 01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:07.800 when the whole ancient alien concept came forward or more 1212 01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:12.480 into the public view, I found that I got to 1213 01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:15.320 go back to my first love, you know, because I 1214 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:19.800 really love ancient traditions and ancient cultures and researching that 1215 01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:25.800 kind of information, and so it was very satisfying, and 1216 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:28.920 it was very satisfying, you know, and I joke around, 1217 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.559 you know, in my day job, I work as a 1218 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:36.320 medical intuitive, which is, you know, simply put, psychic who 1219 01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:39.360 works with people on health issues. You know, I'm a 1220 01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:45.360 naturopathic physician and I have a PhD in Natural health counseling, 1221 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.519 you know, so I help people to sort through their 1222 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:52.400 thoughts and emotions that many times are underscoring their health concerns. 1223 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:56.519 You know, So people call people call me for all 1224 01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:00.559 kinds of weird, different things that some times I know 1225 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.559 about other times you really have to take that intuitive 1226 01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.920 leap of faith and go, okay, so I'm not sure 1227 01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:12.719 where we're going, but we're going to go somewhere. Right. 1228 01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:18.280 That's great. Now, as far as your psychic abilities and 1229 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.199 intuitive abilities, how did you kind of realize and come 1230 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.920 into that and eventually start working with it. 1231 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.519 So I went to the and graduated from the Berkeley 1232 01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.800 Psychic Institute. And so again, you know, from the age 1233 01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.400 of twelve, I was interested in this topic. 1234 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:36.440 I wanted to learn how to be psychic. 1235 01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:41.079 I started reading all these books about psychic phenomena and 1236 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.840 self growth and personal healing and anything I could find 1237 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:48.400 to read, you know, learn all about the Chapras and 1238 01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:50.360 Cabbala and you know. 1239 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.280 And then I mean. 1240 01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.840 This was this was a very humorous story. So I 1241 01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.719 lived in California, and I lived near San Jose, and 1242 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.599 once or twice a year I would trek up to Berkeley, 1243 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:06.920 which was a little over an hour drive, and they 1244 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:09.840 have this main drag with all these little shops and 1245 01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.360 chochkey stuff right off the campus. And there was this 1246 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:17.280 one bookstore that had this little newspaper called the Psychic Reader. 1247 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:22.960 And I would go through the like help section, you know, 1248 01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:27.639 want at looking for someone teaching classes. Never would find anyone, 1249 01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:31.920 so many many, and I mean we're talking many years later, 1250 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:36.599 there was a psychic fair happening down the street from 1251 01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:39.880 my house. And I show up to the fair and 1252 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.960 I asked the woman at the information counter. She goes, well, 1253 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.920 is there anybody that teaches, you know, psychic ability stuff? 1254 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:48.880 No, lie, no, lie. 1255 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:52.360 She picks up the Psychic Reader, opens it up to 1256 01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.760 the center page and it was a two page spread 1257 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.599 about the courses that they offer. And meanwhile, I have 1258 01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.519 been getting this paper for eight years looking for somebody, 1259 01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:05.000 but apparently I was not ready for it. 1260 01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:08.440 Wow, that is very interesting. 1261 01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:14.559 And what I discovered in taking their course, actually like 1262 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.800 three weeks into taking their main program, was that I 1263 01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.560 had been psychic my whole life, but no one ever 1264 01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:25.520 connected the dots between if you have this kind of 1265 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:29.439 experience that is a psychic experience, you know. So I'm 1266 01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:34.239 sure your listeners have had situations where, you know, they 1267 01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:36.800 make a comment or they know something in the back 1268 01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.359 of their mind it turns out to be true. And 1269 01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:42.119 so many times we just sit there and go, oh, well, 1270 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.439 that was a weird coincidence, or you know, that was 1271 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.359 a weird synchronicity. But really you were tuning into the 1272 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.239 information that was being projected out there and receiving it. 1273 01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:59.479 So now, would you agree that everyone basically has access 1274 01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:03.119 to these It's just maybe some might have a little 1275

01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:07.600 bit more of a connection to it, or might be 1276 01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:12.039 honed in easier, or just might have that natural talented 1277 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.760 ability that's a little bit better connection than others. 1278 01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:19.439 Great question, and I love your little angle on it. 1279 01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:23.279 Yeah, I mean I like to like in psychic abilities 1280 01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:27.279 to like dancing or doing artwork. You know, there are 1281 01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:29.920 some people that are great right out of the box. 1282 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:32.079 You know. There are some people that they get some 1283 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.159 training and they become really good, and then there are 1284 01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.399 some people that you know, no matter what, they do, 1285 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:45.399 not so much. And to be honest with you, you know, 1286 01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:47.319 I've been in this field for a really long time. 1287 01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:49.840 And I joke and I love this friend of mine 1288 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:53.079 to death, but I don't think she has a psychic 1289 01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:55.159 bone in her body. And she used to run a 1290 01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:58.239 ghost hunting group that I work with, and we could 1291 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.880 go into some of the most funky places on the 1292 01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.640 planet and there would be like some spirit or some 1293 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:11.479 negative stagnant energy over in this area. And I would, 1294 01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:13.640 you know, because they were always ask me, you know, like, well, 1295 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.960 what's going on? And I wouldn't just take them to 1296 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.680 where it was. I'd go, well, go walk between. 1297 01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.039 This spot and this spot, and when. 1298 01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:26.319 You feel something shift, you know, either walk, you know, 1299 01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:28.880 walk the whole way and then go back or just stop. 1300 01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.199 And everybody in the group would always find the spot, 1301 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:38.840 always except her, not once. So I joke around and go, yeah, 1302 01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.159 you know, I only know one person who's not. 1303 01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:47.199 Psychic, all right, Yeah, And I just wonder if you 1304 01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.479 know this connection that has been you know, cut off 1305 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.880 over the ages. It seems like our ancient ancestors had 1306 01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:58.960 much more access to this, much more stronger abilities, consciousness, abilities, 1307 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:03.600 awareness of abilities, and abilities to use these to to 1308 01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:07.640 manifest actual things into into their reality. 1309 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:08.359 Uh. 1310 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:11.399 And the more that I think about how we've probably 1311 01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.279 been suppressed over the years through the food and water 1312 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:20.119 and medications and indoctrination and false education that we've been getting, 1313 01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:24.319 that kind of dulls all those natural abilities. Would you think. 1314 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:30.439 In antiquity one of the things that was crucial to 1315 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:35.560 a culture was the ritual experience, you know, So you know, 1316 01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:38.000 I always think about, you know, the Native American you know, 1317 01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:42.039 images mental images of Native Americans dancing around the fire, 1318 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.479 you know, I mean, I think most people can can 1319 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:50.000 see that. But what was part of that whole thing 1320 01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:53.680 was usually when they would have some kind of a celebration, 1321 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:59.239 the land was cleared and it was purified, and they 1322 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.920 would make virtual food. So you know, when we think 1323 01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:05.279 of Thanksgiving, you know, it's kind of like ritual food. 1324 01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:06.720 There's an importance to it. 1325 01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:11.640 You know. They would ritually cleanse, they would make masks, 1326 01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:15.239 they would make costumes, and so there is this focus 1327 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:20.479 on this event you know, but all of those experiences 1328 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:24.520 are kind of meditative experiences. You know, if you're sitting 1329 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:28.119 there and you're sweeping, you know, for many people. 1330 01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:29.319 Their energy can clear. 1331 01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:34.439 And so they would spend like a week preparing, you know, 1332 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.239 and doing these rituals for the grand finality where. 1333 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.319 There would be all of this dancing happening. 1334 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:44.640 But the reality is is that they were all preparing. 1335 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.399 And in those cultures there would be some people who 1336 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.079 would transcend and maybe channel a spirit or bring through. 1337 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.079 Deeper insights, but it didn't take. 1338 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:03.359 Away from the connectedness of these other people. And I'm 1339 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:06.800 going to say to themselves, you know, and to source 1340 01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:13.119 and just you know, cleansing. I think everyone's had the 1341 01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:17.319 experience if they're in a bad mood and they go 1342 01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:19.880 to the gym, and they leave the gym and they 1343 01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:23.000 feel better. You know. When my kids were young,

and 1344 01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:25.560 they would piss me off, you know, I would go clean, 1345 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:27.840 you know, So if I was cleaning a bathtub, it 1346 01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.680 usually meant I was pissed off. But when I would 1347 01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:36.079 get done, I would feel better because that focused work 1348 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:39.760 would give me a chance to discharge what I was 1349 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:45.319 holding on. And so that whole practice was part of 1350 01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.960 their culture and part of their tradition which kept them 1351 01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:53.479 closer to source God, you know, whatever words you want 1352 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:57.640 to put there, but also to nature and the animals 1353 01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:00.199 and each other, you know. And if you're going to 1354 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:04.920 do psychic work, that is part of being able to 1355 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:07.760 be clear and being able to be neutral so that 1356 01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:12.439 you can bring through clear information to the people you're 1357 01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.800 working with. So I'm going to continue here a second, 1358 01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.720 you know, and I think, you know, like our culture, 1359 01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.640 religion played a major role in you know, Western religion. 1360 01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:27.439 You know, because if you think about you know, the 1361 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.880 Hindus or the Buddhists, I mean, they meditate regularly, you know, 1362 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:36.520 they do things, and there's an awareness of keeping that 1363 01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:40.239 channel open, keeping that flow open, where in the West 1364 01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:44.239 it's like, no, you have to go to somebody and 1365 01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:46.479 you know, forget your sins forgiven. 1366 01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:48.760 I mean we've and it's. 1367 01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:55.600 Sae, you know, it's just been kind of eradicated from us, 1368 01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:59.119 you know, and some people, since this is forbidden, not 1369 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:02.960 forbidden not, you know, there are some people that suggest. 1370 01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:03.880 That it was done intentionally. 1371 01:15:06.119 --> 01:15:09.439 Yeah, And because when we're not connected, we can't bring 1372 01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:13.039 through truth and we're more easily controlled. 1373 01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:17.960 Right, And we're living in times where it's being revealed 1374 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.199 that so much that we've learned about ourselves, about our education, 1375 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:25.800 about our history, everything they've told us is indeed false. 1376 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:29.600 We have plenty of great researchers, independent researchers that are 1377 01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:32.640 kind of bringing this stuff to light, like yourself, and 1378

01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.520 it's wonderful. It's wonderful that we're entering these times and 1379 01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:38.640 so many people are kind of looking for truth and 1380 01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.560 speaking of you know, people changing their views towards things. 1381 01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.960 You're the founder of Institute of Applied Energetics. Could you 1382 01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:48.760 tell us a little bit about that and do you 1383 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:52.000 find that more people are kind of becoming open to 1384 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:52.720 stuff like this? 1385 01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.960 So the Institute of Applied Energetics is a and I'm 1386 01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:00.319 going to save this by a professional level training program 1387 01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:04.720 for people that are interested in becoming an energy Medicine practitioner, 1388 01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:10.199 Certified Energy Medicine practitioner, Intuitive counselor, or certified medical intuitive, 1389 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.319 you know. And so there are places that will teach, 1390 01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:15.520 you know, like a fifty hour course, you know, a 1391 01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:20.640 weekend deal and say, oh, now you're a medical intuitive. 1392 01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.960 But that's really not how it works, you know it. 1393 01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:27.159 You have to be able to learn how to tap it, 1394 01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.239 you know, and be able to read people, be able 1395 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.880 to feel their energy. You know. So this is more 1396 01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:35.640 of like a two year training program. It's all self 1397 01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:41.399 paced and prepares you to work with clients. You know, 1398 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:45.520 once you're done with the training, because you will have 1399 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:47.600 worked with so many people, there will be a level 1400 01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.039 of confidence that you're experiencing. 1401 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.439 And yes, I think things really have changed. 1402 01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:54.680 You know. 1403 01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:58.680 When I first got into this field, you know, there 1404 01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:02.800 were bookstore but like saying that you did ghost hunting 1405 01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:04.439 was you know, really taboo. 1406 01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:06.920 I mean, there were a lot of taboos. And now 1407 01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:08.079 and it's interesting. 1408 01:17:08.199 --> 01:17:11.920 I I live in Podunk, Texas now, you know, so 1409 01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:17.760 and it's really kind of redneck, and so I don't 1410 01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:21.239 necessarily run around going hey, you know, I do psychic work, 1411 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:27.960 you know, because I just don't. But you know, I've 1412 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.840 told miscellaneous weird people, you know, random people, it's like, oh, yeah, 1413 01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:32.920 I've done ghost hunting. 1414 01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:35.520 And what's fascinating is. 1415 01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:39.279 That their eyes line up and they're like, really, what's 1416 01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:44.000 that like? And so there's this curiosity around the whole 1417 01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:46.439 thing that wasn't there before. 1418 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:51.960 Yeah, that it's definitely isn't That's encouraging to me, Could 1419 01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.720 you tell us a little bit more details about what's 1420 01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:59.640 entailed in a medical intuitive reading and maybe give some examples. 1421 01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:06.119 Sure. So, so this is how I like to format 1422 01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:10.920 my reading. And everybody that does work, you know, does 1423 01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.600 their own style. There are some that, you know, you 1424 01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.199 just sit in front of them and they'll just go, oh, well, 1425 01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:19.239 I see this, and I see this, and I see this. 1426 01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:21.960 And I have some clients that that is how I work, 1427 01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:24.800 you know, And you know, I kind of call it 1428 01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.560 like the annual exam. I have a couple of people 1429 01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.039 that will come and I will literally go through every 1430 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:32.520 system of their body to see if there's been any 1431 01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:35.640 changes or there's any issues going on. But when I 1432 01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:40.560 work with clients primarily, you know, I tell them it's 1433 01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.199 like you know where your alleys are, you know, so 1434 01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:46.359 if you're having a digestive issue, you know, tell me 1435 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:50.159 I'm having a digestive issue. You know. It's like I 1436 01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:54.119 like to folk. It gives me the opportunity to focus 1437 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.319 in on what's going on with them versus trying to 1438 01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:01.239 find what's going on with them, which might take a 1439 01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:05.560 half an hour, you know, and then give them steps 1440 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.199 to take that they can bring about healing, you know, 1441 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:14.039 I mean, you know, whether it is working with herb supplements, diet, exercise, 1442 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:18.760 you know, mental shifting, or sending you to go see 1443 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:22.039 a chiropractor or a cranial sacle person. I mean, I 1444 01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:24.279 don't do that kind of work, but that might be 1445 01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:29.319 the appropriate remedy for them. 1446 01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:34.119 So that makes sense, makes a lot of sense. Now, 1447 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:37.000 I want to get your thoughts on this state of 1448 01:19:37.199 -->

01:19:41.680 our healthcare system in general, especially right now. It seems that, 1449 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:48.279 you know, since the onset of allopathic medicine, they've just 1450 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:52.520 been creating perpetual customers. They've been keeping people in a 1451 01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:58.840 perpetual state of illness. The pharmaceutical companies and health care 1452 01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:02.920 is not about healing. It's about keeping you in a 1453 01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.680 certain place and keeping you customers for the rest of 1454 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:09.359 your life. And it never has been and it's pretty sad. 1455 01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:12.479 But now it's encouraging that we're seeing all these I 1456 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:16.079 guess you could say mistakes that they're making, and people 1457 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:21.279 are realizing what is behind some of these institutions and 1458 01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:25.600 the pharmaceutical companies and how they're really not interested in 1459 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:28.760 our well being and health, and things are starting to 1460 01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.279 kind of shift and we're seeing people think about things 1461 01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:34.880 a different way. What are your thoughts about the future 1462 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:37.279 of this? Do you think that this will continue to 1463 01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:41.359 just be what it always has been and basically, you know, 1464 01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.520 a money making system that doesn't care about human health 1465 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:45.840 at all. 1466 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:52.000 Wow, that was a pretty loaded question. You know. In 1467 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:54.960 the I'm going to say around the turn of the century, 1468 01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:58.479 maybe in the twenties, there was a lot of alternative 1469 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.000 health stuff out there. 1470 01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:00.439 You know. 1471 01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:03.239 There was Wilhelm Rife who had the Rife Machine. There 1472 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:07.199 were the Kellogg brothers, There was Edgar Casey out there. 1473 01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:10.640 You know, there was this guy Dinshaw who did color therapy, 1474 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:14.720 and the AMA came in, which was a new organization, 1475 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:17.960 and basically shut them all down. You know, they were 1476 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:22.079 doing flappery, you know. So it took a long time 1477 01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:29.039 for those alternative practices to kind of circle back around, 1478 01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:32.880 you know, and I think a lot of people have 1479 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:36.159 come to realize. Not everyone, but I think there's a 1480 01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:39.760 growing consensus. You know, well, I went to the doctor. 1481 01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:41.279 This is a lot of my clients, you know. I 1482 01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:44.199 went to the doctor and they gave me an antibiotic, 1483 01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:46.920 you know, even though I have a viral infection. They 1484 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.479 gave me an antibiotic which doesn't do anything, you know, 1485 01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:52.880 or they told me, you know, well it's not showing 1486 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:56.479 up in your bloodwork, so come back, you know. Literally 1487 01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:00.399 true story. Had a client she couldn't get out of 1488 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:04.039 bed unless she took painkillers. I mean, she was in 1489 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:07.039 that much pain. Went to the doctor, did her blood 1490 01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:09.399 work and said, well, we don't see anything, you know, 1491 01:22:09.479 --> 01:22:16.760 come back in six months. It's like seriously, you know. 1492 01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:20.840 And so today it's kind of like you almost have 1493 01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:25.199 to come with your own diagnosis and come with your 1494 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.600 own like, well, on TV, I saw this commercial and 1495 01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:31.119 these were the symptoms they were talking about, and maybe 1496 01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:34.720 you should give me this, you know that they don't. 1497 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.920 They don't want to investigate. They want one stop care, 1498 01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:40.640 you know, And if it doesn't show up in your 1499 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.000 blood worker, if it doesn't show up in some very 1500 01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:48.720 cursory testing and evaluation, that's where they'll stop, you know. 1501 01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:50.720 And sometimes things are going. 1502 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:54.159 On that are deeper, you know, or they don't think about, 1503 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:57.039 or they just don't care about. And I think people 1504 01:22:57.159 --> 01:23:00.479 are tired of it. They're tired of the ten minute. Hey, 1505 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.279 you know, the doctor didn't even take his hand off 1506 01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:07.359 the door. Knob Well, people are also into the room. 1507 01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:10.680 Yeah, they're also realizing that they're treating it like like 1508 01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:14.600 a cult or like some uh some religious organization that 1509 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.560 we have to blindly believe what these doctors are saying, 1510 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:21.000 like the priest class. And if we don't, you know, 1511 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:23.720 we're gonna we're not going to be healthy people. We're 1512 01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:26.119 not going to be able to survive without them. 1513 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:30.279 And I think that that had really gotten busted, Yeah, 1514 01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.640 in these last couple of years, where it's kind of like, sorry, 1515 01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:37.039 but what you're saying really doesn't resonate with me, and 1516 01:23:37.680 -->

01:23:40.560 you keep changing your mind every fifteen minutes, but then 1517 01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:42.600 running around saying but it's science. 1518 01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:44.720 It's like, no, it's your opinion. 1519 01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.439 And I think there's a lot of people that have 1520 01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:51.520 woken up to say, oh, but really they have nothing 1521 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:55.319 at all, you know. And I think a lot of people, 1522 01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.479 let me back up one quick second. It's it seems 1523 01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:03.800 that many times the only way that they know to 1524 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:06.640 treat something is to give you a pill or to 1525 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:10.840 slice and dice, right. And I think a lot of 1526 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.119 people have come to recognize that there are other things 1527 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:16.960 that they can do or they're not in agreement to 1528 01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:22.239 taking some kind of medication for the rest of their lives, 1529 01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:26.239 you know, like stating drums that you take for high cholesterol. 1530 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:28.199 There are a lot of people that you do a 1531 01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:29.880 little bit of homework and they say, you know, they're 1532 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:32.520 really bad for you. It's like, so, why would I 1533 01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:37.039 want to take that for the next thirty years or whatever. 1534 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:44.279 So my late husband actually worked in healthcare and had 1535 01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:46.920 been a medic in the military, you know, and his 1536 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:51.279 philosophy was happiness through chemistry. So if they told him 1537 01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:54.119 to take a prescription, he would take a prescription, you know. 1538 01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:56.199 And I had to just really step. 1539 01:24:55.920 --> 01:25:02.119 Back and allow him to do his thing, you know, 1540 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:07.359 because I wasn't gonna fight that until his blood sugar 1541 01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:10.640 was off the charts, you know. And I had to 1542 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.720 take you to the hospital because the doctor was like, uh, 1543 01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:18.600 go to the hospital now, don't stop, you know, just 1544 01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:23.039 put down what you're doing, just go now. And and that's 1545 01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.079 when it shifted for him, you know. 1546 01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:26.880 So sometimes you have to. 1547 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.920 Have this like major thing happen for you to go, oh, 1548 01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:33.840 maybe I need to take more control over what's going 1549 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:34.439 on in my. 1550 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:38.399 Life, right, Yeah, And that's the key, It's all it's 1551 01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:41.359 all within us. We have the power to eat healthy, 1552 01:25:41.399 -->

01:25:45.640 eat right, exercise, get sunlight and you know, those those 1553 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:49.119 fundamental things can keep you from me even having to 1554 01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:51.680 to visit a doctor. So that's what I think, you know, 1555 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.840 people should start focusing on. But I want to talk 1556 01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:57.439 about more about the Yes, hang on, I just. 1557 01:25:57.439 --> 01:25:59.680 Want to make one more comment, you know, all right 1558 01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:02.439 with that disclosing my age. You know, and I have 1559 01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:06.000 a couple of friends that fall into this category. It's 1560 01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:09.119 like you go to the doctor and they go, well, 1561 01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.279 what medications are you on? And you say, well, I'm 1562 01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:15.680 not taking any and they look at you, like, what, 1563 01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:20.760 You're not taking any medications. It's like, because many people 1564 01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:23.319 that are in the same age group are taking four 1565 01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:29.000 or five different things every day when it's totally preventable. 1566 01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:31.479 It's like, you don't need to eat that potato chip, 1567 01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:35.760 you don't need to eat that candy bar. All right. 1568 01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:38.399 Quick story. So I have a friend who has diabetes 1569 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:43.359 and like type one. So he does the shots. And 1570 01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:45.239 we went out to lunch one day and he got 1571 01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.279 a sandwich so now we just had bread, which is sure, 1572 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:53.359 and he washed it down with a milkshake and I 1573 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:57.119 looked at him and said, wait a minute, you have diabetes, 1574 01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:57.560 why are you. 1575 01:26:57.640 --> 01:26:58.880 Drinking this milkshake? 1576 01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:00.840 And he goes, oh, I'll just you know, do a 1577 01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:05.560 little more instluence. And there is a whole group of 1578 01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:11.880 people that would rather do that than limit themselves because 1579 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:15.279 they feel like they're going to be missing out on something. 1580 01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:21.079 Wow. And and most people don't for some reason, they 1581 01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:23.760 don't realize that the body has the ability to heal 1582 01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:26.880 itself and take care of most illments on its own 1583 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.359 if you're treating it right and giving it the ability 1584 01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:32.640 to do so. So that's another uh, you know, falsity 1585 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.199 we'd have to look at. I want to talk about. 1586 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:37.600 This is important, I think that people don't. Another thing 1587 01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:40.920 people don't realize is the effects of trauma on our 1588 01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:43.920 health and it's one of probably the leading cause of 1589 01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:48.239 all a lot of diseases that could be prevented with 1590 01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:49.800 dealing with these traumas. 1591 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:54.520 Right, Okay, so I'm going all right, where are we 1592 01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:56.079 going to start with that? 1593 01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:56.680 That's a big. 1594 01:27:56.560 --> 01:28:01.159 One, but it's a good one. 1595 01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:01.960 Okay. 1596 01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:04.399 So in my experience, so I've been working as a 1597 01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:08.520 medical intuitive for over twenty years. I'm going to be 1598 01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.119 kind of over twenty years. That still makes me old. 1599 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:17.239 And what I have found is that over eighty percent 1600 01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.640 and I'm going to put it more like ninety percent 1601 01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:24.680 of all illnesses that people get, there is some kind 1602 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.319 of and I'm going to use the word psycho spiritual 1603 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:31.560 issue going on. So that other ten percent is you 1604 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:35.479 fell over and you broke your arm, you know, you 1605 01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:39.079 you went somewhere and you got a virus or you know, 1606 01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:45.960 some kind of environmental contagion. You know, so that would 1607 01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.479 fall into that like it wasn't something that my body 1608 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:53.960 created itself. And so when my work as a medical intuitive, 1609 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:58.199 so let's say somebody is complaining about a liver issue 1610 01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.239 or they're having a digestive you and I start poking 1611 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:06.399 around on their liver, what comes to me are these 1612 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:15.239 core beliefs about them and their lives. And so where 1613 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:18.600 those core beliefs come in, you know, it might be trauma, 1614 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:24.640 and you could call it trauma, but it's these false 1615 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:28.520 beliefs or limited emotions that make it that they can't 1616 01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:33.560 be who they are, you know, and it will stop them. 1617 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:38.199 And so obviously the bigger something is, or the more 1618 01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:43.600 it's repeated over and over again, the bigger this little 1619 01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:49.159 lump of funky energy can be, you know. So for example, 1620 01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:52.279 I had a client, she had some liver issues going on, 1621 01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:55.600 and I'm poking around and I just looked at her 1622 01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:58.319 and I said, you know, I just get this impression that, 1623 01:29:58.479 --> 01:29:59.800 you

know, your whole. 1624 01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:02.000 Life try to be invisible. 1625 01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:08.359 Because in her family of origin, you know, children are 1626 01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:11.119 to be seen and not heard, and that was really 1627 01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:16.560 enforced within her and her family. But it made her 1628 01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:21.680 become kind of a wall flower, and she turned her 1629 01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:25.880 energy down and turned her personality down because it was 1630 01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:31.439 bad and it was wrong. And so that diminishment of 1631 01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:36.359 her is what was sitting underneath this liber issue, you know. 1632 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:41.000 And so trauma can be big, trauma can be small. 1633 01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:47.039 You know. We all experienced trauma and some of you know, 1634 01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:51.399 we can live with it. I think where it becomes 1635 01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:54.720 an issue was for and I'll use the same example. 1636 01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:57.840 There was what happened when she was a kid, but 1637 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:02.000 she took that belief forward with her and life and 1638 01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:05.680 always try to be invisible, you know, or felt safe 1639 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:10.960 by being invisible, and so it controlled he and for life, 1640 01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:16.279 which over time got bigger. Kind of like a corn, 1641 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:18.760 you know, at what starts as this little teeny piece 1642 01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:21.319 in your tail to the point where it gets this 1643 01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:24.920 big callous on it and it really hurts you, know, 1644 01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:27.680 so until you can get to that little center piece 1645 01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.279 and heal that, you can't get rid of it. 1646 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.600 Are you ready to live a more free, healthy and 1647 01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:40.399 abundant life. Transform your yard into a food forest and 1648 01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:45.159 create a system for self reliance that's easy and enjoyable 1649 01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:49.760 with our friends at Food Forest Abundance. No matter where 1650 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:53.960 you're starting from, you can become more self reliant and 1651 01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:56.680 you can take your self reliance to the next level 1652 01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:01.000 by becoming a producer of your own food through growing 1653 01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:04.840 and foraging, and learn how to turn your property into 1654 01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:09.760 an income producing source of economic self reliance. They can 1655 01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:12.880 help you get off grid and learn what systems to 1656 01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:18.079 employ for food, water, and energy self reliance and live 1657 01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:22.199 abundantly and in full connection with your property and what 1658 01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:25.760 you produce. Click the link in the description to get 1659 01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:29.199 started with your very own food forest and have your 1660 01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:33.800 own sustainable source of livelihood and become self sufficient with 1661 01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:40.199 food forest Abundance. Now, one thing I've noticed, especially in 1662 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:43.359 the past couple of years, it seems like there is 1663 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:49.239 a major increase in mental illness people dependent on pharmaceuticals 1664 01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:54.000 psychoactive drugs, suicide and it's you know, of course since 1665 01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:57.279 twenty twenty after the lockdowns started, this was a I'm 1666 01:32:57.319 --> 01:33:00.239 sure a huge contributing factor, but it seems to an 1667 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:04.640 ongoing thing. But not only that, we have the mainstream 1668 01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:07.880 media and social media and things like that kind of 1669 01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:12.319 wanting to normalize mental illness in a way to where 1670 01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:14.920 you know, they can think they can push the drugs 1671 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.000 on you because it's a normal thing for you to 1672 01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.760 feel this way and they can cure you with it 1673 01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:21.520 whatever pharmaceutical they have. And if you see some of 1674 01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:24.520 these pharmaceutical commercials, you know they want to give you 1675 01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:27.680 up pill for every little thing my pinky hurts, you 1676 01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:29.600 get a pill to you know, it may cause all 1677 01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:32.680 these side effects like death and disease, but you know 1678 01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:36.239 your pinky won't hurt anymore. So that's another thing that 1679 01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:38.239 we have to deal with. And I think this all 1680 01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:41.920 this stuff is perpetuating mental illness as well in people. 1681 01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:46.159 Have you kind of noticed an increase in mental illness 1682 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.680 and in people's mental health issues lately? 1683 01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:58.760 Two part answers. So I think you know, with awareness 1684 01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:03.800 become knowledge, and if you're willing to become aware of 1685 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:06.680 what's going on, then you can fix it. So I 1686 01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:10.760 think the awareness is helping. You know, so if you 1687 01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:14.840 have add or ADHD, it's like you can develop coping 1688 01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:19.520 skills when you get triggered in order to work through 1689 01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:26.319 that energy. But I'm going to say that younger people 1690 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:33.640 seem to have more issues with add ADHD, you know, 1691 01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:34.520 and some. 1692 01:34:34.359 -->

01:34:36.159 Of those kind of things. 1693 01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:42.960 You know, there are those that point their finger at vaccinations. 1694 01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:47.399 You know, I've never really studied vaccines, but there is 1695 01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:52.439 a very big increase in the number of people that 1696 01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:58.640 have those kinds of issues. But I think that also, 1697 01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:02.159 you know, they're not really taugh to regulate their energy. 1698 01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:06.359 You know. When I was a kid, it's like you 1699 01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:08.800 went outside and you ran around, and you rode your 1700 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.880 bike around, and you climb trees, and you played ball 1701 01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.000 and you played hide and seek, and you burned off 1702 01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:19.399 all of that energy. I mean, kids have energy, and 1703 01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:24.680 some kids have a lot of energy. And many kids 1704 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:28.079 now it's like they sit in front of their computer 1705 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:32.319 or their xbox or whatever and they don't burn off 1706 01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:34.960 that energy. You know. But kind of like we were 1707 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.600 talking about, that ritual experience, you go out and you 1708 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:42.560 run around the neighborhood, and it lets you discharge whatever 1709 01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:45.520 you're holding on too well, they don't have that opportunity 1710 01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:51.119 to do that. And I think parents, you know, which 1711 01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:54.439 can be very self regulating. You know, when you have 1712 01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:59.680 that opportunity to do stuff in that way, it helps 1713 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:05.439 you learn how to navigate your own innerspace, you know. 1714 01:36:05.479 --> 01:36:08.199 And I kind of reflect and go. You know, if 1715 01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:10.439 meds were popular when I was a kid man, they 1716 01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:14.720 would have had been medded up. He died because that 1717 01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:20.680 was kind of painting mass, you know. 1718 01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:22.520 And so I do think it's interesting. 1719 01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:27.279 And again have not researched, but I have noticed in 1720 01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:31.079 working with my clients that you know, and I'm going 1721 01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:34.479 to and I know that it's after this, but I'm 1722 01:36:34.479 --> 01:36:37.279 going to say, like clients that I have that are 1723 01:36:37.399 --> 01:36:42.279 today in like around forty and down, that's where I 1724 01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:45.199 really see an increase. 1725 01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:46.880 In these issues. 1726 01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:49.960 You know, in the pharmaceutical company is more than happy 1727 01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:56.239 to give you stuff versus you know, your insurance companies 1728 01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:57.479 sending you to counseling. 1729 01:36:57.560 --> 01:36:59.199 So maybe you could work through this. 1730 01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:04.079 Or send you to a group thing where you could 1731 01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:08.119 learn some tools and skills to help you navigate your 1732 01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:11.239 life more successfully. They would rather give you a pill 1733 01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:12.720 to do that. 1734 01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:14.079 Yeah. 1735 01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:19.119 Now, one issue that mainstream medicine I don't believe wouldever 1736 01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:25.279 even acknowledge is the phenomenon of entity attachments and how 1737 01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:29.399 this can affect people's health. Now. I kind of used 1738 01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.920 to think this was crazy woo stuff for a while 1739 01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.640 back myself until I had my own experiences with it. 1740 01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:37.680 So I kind of want you to talk to address 1741 01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:40.520 this and talk a little bit about it and your 1742 01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:42.920 experiences with entity attachments. 1743 01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:46.239 Okay, another loaded question. 1744 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:58.960 Yeah, So entities like to control and manipulate people and 1745 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:05.920 control them if their energy and so you know they 1746 01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:09.399 can you know, I don't have a I'm just gonna 1747 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:11.439 like be upfront, you know. So I don't have a 1748 01:38:11.479 --> 01:38:15.199 lot of people that come to me because they're having 1749 01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:20.800 a health issue that gets contributed back to there's. 1750 01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:23.640 An entity attachment every so often. 1751 01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:27.159 You know. It's more like these are the experiences I'm happening, 1752 01:38:27.239 --> 01:38:30.319 and then you look and it's like, oh, there's an 1753 01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:34.560 entity or this is how I feel, and it's like, oh, 1754 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:38.239 well that's because you have an entity versus I have 1755 01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:41.960 a liver issue, you know, and you poke and there's 1756 01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:44.800 an entity. Now I'm gonna put a little caveat on 1757 01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:49.119 that and we'll use the I feel invisible. So one 1758 01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:52.359 of the things that entities do is when a person 1759 01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:57.079 gets triggered, they dissociate and then the entity has more 1760 01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:01.920 control over the body and mom and so they will 1761 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:06.039 sit there and yell in your head, yeah you're invisible, 1762 01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:09.720 and nobody want to talk to you. That's because you suck, 1763 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:13.920 you know, And so they will start this whole process 1764 01:39:14.760 -->

01:39:20.760 that creates a more triggering reaction in you, which increases 1765 01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:24.159 your trauma that gets stored up in that spot in 1766 01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:27.319 the liver, you know. So I can see where entities 1767 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:32.920 would do that, but not that they're a direct causation. Now, 1768 01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:34.760 one thing, and I'm going to stay on this one second. 1769 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:38.079 One of the things that has really gone off the 1770 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:42.640 charts in the last few years are people coming with 1771 01:39:42.760 --> 01:39:50.199 complaints of entities scratching, biting, having sexual encounters with which 1772 01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:55.560 was not very common five years ago. You know. 1773 01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:58.760 So that's new, that's real new. 1774 01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:05.319 That's very interesting now you said it. That's been happening 1775 01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:10.239 for the past few years. Yeah, do you attribute that 1776 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:11.800 to anything in particular? 1777 01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:14.560 I think that people are. 1778 01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:18.920 All right, So I'm gonna say this, and if it 1779 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:22.399 doesn't make sense and I need to clarify, just say 1780 01:40:22.399 --> 01:40:24.079 so if you don't think your listeners will get it. 1781 01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.079 You know. So an entity cannot enter your oric fields, 1782 01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:31.760 you know, so your personal space unless there's something going 1783 01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.680 on with you and you're in a bad place, you know. 1784 01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:39.039 So I'm sitting there going gone, I'm feeling really invisible, 1785 01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:41.239 you know, I just had a fight with someone to 1786 01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.399 now I got I got bad mojo. And that makes 1787 01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:49.439 it where the entity has more opportunity to come in. 1788 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:53.520 And so I think that there's just been a lot 1789 01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:59.880 of negativity that people have been experiencing that lowers thereby 1790 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:07.800 vibration and makes them more prone to being invaded, you know, 1791 01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:10.600 because many times, you know, some people that have some 1792 01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:14.279 really funky stuff going on, they're scared to death, and 1793 01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:17.680 not necessarily of the entity, that's just you know, part 1794 01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:20.439 of it, you know, but what's going on in their lives. 1795 01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:22.840 You know, they're they're going to die, you know, or 1796 01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:26.760 whatever it may be, you know, whatever they flavor is 1797 01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:29.960 that week, you know, and you tell them it's like, well, 1798 01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:31.600 you know, you need

to address the fear, and you 1799 01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:33.960 try to work with them with addressing the fear, and 1800 01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:37.600 sometimes they just don't even want to go there, you know, 1801 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:40.520 or don't want to wrap their mind around it, you know. 1802 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:43.159 But it really has to do with their vibration. And 1803 01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:46.880 you know, if you open the door, the door's open. 1804 01:41:48.479 --> 01:41:51.359 Do you think that there are mental illnesses that are 1805 01:41:51.359 --> 01:41:55.680 being misdiagnosed that are actually some sort of spiritual attachments? 1806 01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:04.079 I'll say this way. 1807 01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:08.239 So people that are schizophrenic many times will have an 1808 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:11.840 entity attachment, you know, and they're in pretty good communication 1809 01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:17.079 with them, you know, but there is actually a you know, 1810 01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:21.399 an energetic issue. So from a medical intuitive point of view, 1811 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:25.840 people that have schizophrenia have so if I say chapras 1812 01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:29.199 or your listener is going to know what I'm talking about, yes, sure, okay, 1813 01:42:29.640 --> 01:42:31.760 you know they have blown out chopras, you know. So 1814 01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:34.640 the chapers are designed to open and close, so they 1815 01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:38.399 do this kind of depending on how much information you 1816 01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:41.720 want to process from the world around you. So if 1817 01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:44.560 you're scared, for example, your first chapera, which is that 1818 01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:50.680 the base of the spine goes and there's not a 1819 01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:54.479 whole lot of information being processed, and so someone that 1820 01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:58.880 is schizophrenic, their chapras actually get locked. 1821 01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:01.199 Into an open position, and. 1822 01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:04.000 So when they open and closed, you can filter information 1823 01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:08.920 based on what's going on. Someone that's schizophrenic, it's like 1824 01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:14.079 they lose the ability to filter information in different choppers. 1825 01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:16.720 It doesn't mean all their choppers are affected, but in 1826 01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:20.840 different ones. And so it makes it so that if 1827 01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:24.119 there's someone standing there talking to you, they can't filter 1828 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:27.640 it because it's wide open, you know. And so even 1829 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:32.279 though we can't like regular people can't perceive it, you know, 1830 01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:35.479 they're perceiving it. And so it's kind of like, oh, yeah, 1831 01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:39.079 you know, you got this guy, you know, but the 1832 01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.760 mental health practitioner would probably be like, you need medication, 1833 01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:49.279 you know. And I guess really where it comes down 1834 01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:53.520 to with that in particular, is are they being powerful 1835 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:54.560 to themselves? 1836 01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:54.800 You know? 1837 01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:58.880 Because I feel like that can be addressed through energy 1838 01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:03.800 work and you know, working with the person to make 1839 01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:06.119 that chenra function better. 1840 01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:08.560 But I mean, I had one client and. 1841 01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:13.880 He was going that he was going down a dark alley, 1842 01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:17.079 you know, and the entity was very dark, and I 1843 01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:21.560 finally suggested to him that he go on medication, you know, 1844 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.119 and then it was really challenging even to work with 1845 01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:28.640 him because he wasn't open because basically what the medication 1846 01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:31.520 did was just shut it all down, you know, it 1847 01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:36.039 shut down his ability to receive vibrational information from the 1848 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:39.000 world around, which I thought was very interesting. 1849 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:44.880 Yes, to shut the entity out, that is very interesting. Well, 1850 01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:47.439 what do you think there's a lot of misconceptions. I 1851 01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:48.960 think there's a lot of ideas and a lot of 1852 01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:54.079 theories and different thoughts on what these entities actually are. 1853 01:44:54.119 --> 01:44:56.319 And I want to get your thoughts on him and 1854 01:44:56.439 --> 01:44:59.520 if they actually maybe different types of things. Some people 1855 01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:04.399 think they're disincarnate spirits or demons or angels or just 1856 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.760 negative energies, and I want to get your thoughts on 1857 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:08.279 what these possibly could be. 1858 01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:14.560 Okay, you know, so you know, I kind of made 1859 01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:19.960 a five category list, you know, from highest vibrating to 1860 01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:24.520 lowest vibrating, you know, with angels being the highest vibrating. 1861 01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:26.680 And I think, you know, there are angels around. Not 1862 01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:29.039 my area of study, you know, because I like the 1863 01:45:29.119 --> 01:45:33.399 bad boys, you know, So there are angels, but you're 1864 01:45:33.479 --> 01:45:38.000 very high vibrating spirits, you know. And and and that's 1865 01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:40.439 the word I'm tying to them. It's like, you know, 1866 01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:42.880 did they come from a different planet? Are they for 1867

01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:47.800 a most interdimensional be you know, that's a whole other conversation. 1868 01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:50.359 You know. Then there are spirit guides who tend to 1869 01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:51.520 work with individuals. 1870 01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:53.359 Then you have your basic. 1871 01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:56.159 Run of the mill ghosts, you know that hang out 1872 01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:59.239 in your house or come visit you or whatever. And 1873 01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:02.960 then you start moving into the darker end of the spectrum, 1874 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:07.800 you know, where you have your attached entities. So in 1875 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:13.159 that category, the bulk that I have experienced were presented 1876 01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:16.960 themselves as noncoporeal beings, you know, so they were some 1877 01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:19.840 dead guy. And what's interesting is most of the time 1878 01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:23.439 they're guys or they present as guys, which I think 1879 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:30.520 is interesting. But I've also encountered what I call alien 1880 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:36.439 entities where they you know, they show up looking weird, 1881 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:40.319 you know, like the human torture. I just had a 1882 01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:47.680 client who had these two entities that were like reptilian, 1883 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:50.479 so humanoid in stature. 1884 01:46:50.359 --> 01:46:51.840 But with kind of this like. 1885 01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:57.600 Tough skin, and then they had like horns coming out as. 1886 01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.560 Elbows and shoal. It was really weird, like okay, here 1887 01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:01.960 we go. 1888 01:47:02.760 --> 01:47:07.119 Yeah, And what's interesting with them is that they do 1889 01:47:07.239 --> 01:47:13.119 not get human, you know, like humans understand human. And 1890 01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:18.000 I like this example, you know, so you watch Star Trek, 1891 01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:21.720 you know, and clingons are clingons. So no matter what 1892 01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:25.800 clingon you need, there is kind of like their level 1893 01:47:26.039 --> 01:47:29.399 of culture. You know, it's a good day to die, 1894 01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:32.239 where for us it's like we would never say that. Yeah, 1895 01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:36.600 you know, you know. So clingons are klingons, Frangi or Ferrangi, 1896 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:36.960 you know. 1897 01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:37.880 And so. 1898 01:47:40.359 --> 01:47:43.720 If you have a Frangie hanging around in your space, 1899 01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:46.720 the way you need to interact with them for them 1900 01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:52.960 to get it has to be with Frangi mentality versus 1901 01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:56.920 human mentality, because humans are human and Ferengi or Frangi 1902 01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:00.279 and clingons are klingons. Well, when you have these like 1903 01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.760 lizard people showing up, it's like, well, who the hell 1904 01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:08.119 are you? And how do you communicate with you? Like 1905 01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:11.720 what's your mentality and what what do you want? 1906 01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:14.199 So they're more challenging. 1907 01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:18.159 And then I do have one category that I will 1908 01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:23.359 call demons, but not in the classic religious sense of 1909 01:48:23.399 --> 01:48:28.960 the word. But these things are just they're they're they're 1910 01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:36.520 not good, They're just there. I don't know. I mean, 1911 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:41.000 I hate to say that they're just evil, but they are, 1912 01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:45.840 and they just don't. You have to approach them in 1913 01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.840 a very different way. You know, you have to really 1914 01:48:49.079 --> 01:48:53.520 expel them versus you know, if it's just like your 1915 01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.159 standard mon corporeal person, you know, you can try to 1916 01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:58.399 send them into light. You know, you can like use 1917 01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:02.399 psychology on them. And the demons are just you know, 1918 01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:06.520 sometimes they show up corporeal, sometimes not so much. You know, 1919 01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:12.800 sometimes they'll like be in people's bodies. I don't deal 1920 01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:16.159 with them. I usually will refer those people out because 1921 01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:20.119 that's you have to sit there and have very strong 1922 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:23.840 boundaries to be like be God and then have them, 1923 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.079 you know, be open to them, like to come and 1924 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:27.479 like clonk you on the head. 1925 01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:31.119 It's like aye doing it? 1926 01:49:31.479 --> 01:49:31.880 Wow? 1927 01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:36.439 Man. So what would what advice would you give people 1928 01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:40.000 who may believe they have an entity attachment? And how 1929 01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:43.800 would you how would you go about finding out or 1930 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:48.279 even telling the difference between some natural mental disorder and 1931 01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:50.960 being whispered in the year by an entity? 1932 01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:57.399 I mean, it's little challenging. What I find more challenging 1933 01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:01.119 are people And this is going to sound terrible, so listeners, I'm. 1934 01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:02.479 Sorry for saying this out loud. 1935 01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:08.760 What's more challenging is that people will self diagnose, you know, 1936 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:13.640 because there are symptoms that tend to be common traits 1937 01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:19.039 for people that have entity attachments. But people will self diagnose. 1938

01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:23.880 But the entity's goal is to control and manipulate it. 1939 01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:26.920 And so the one of the ways they do that 1940 01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:29.920 is they don't want you to know that they exist, 1941 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:34.920 because when you know they exist, then you they can't 1942 01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:38.880 play the game anymore, you know, So they use everything 1943 01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:41.399 in their power to make you think that what you're 1944 01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:46.319 thinking is you no. And so if you're saying, oh, well, 1945 01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:49.199 I have this entity all right, to when clients call 1946 01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:51.520 me and the first thing out of their mouth is 1947 01:50:52.560 --> 01:50:55.600 you know, I got this entity. You know, the first 1948 01:50:55.600 --> 01:51:00.000 thing I say is what we'll see yeah, Because sometimes 1949 01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:03.359 people think, and this is a real concern, you know, 1950 01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:06.000 they think they have an entergy and now they're looking 1951 01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:09.279 for it, and they're looking. And there's something that's called 1952 01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:13.720 a thought for where you herd have a thought and 1953 01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:20.479 you give it so much energy that from a you know, 1954 01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:23.000 a point of view, it actually will take on a 1955 01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:27.279 certain amount of form and have energy tie to it. 1956 01:51:29.439 --> 01:51:31.239 I don't know what that is, but I'll take. 1957 01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:37.439 You yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, and they 1958 01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:38.560 can really be kind. 1959 01:51:38.439 --> 01:51:42.000 Of hard to segregate out, you know, Some of the 1960 01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:46.239 criteria that I use, and sometimes I even get fooled, is. 1961 01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:49.079 When you look at them. 1962 01:51:49.079 --> 01:51:52.399 You can tell that they're humanoid, like, you know, they 1963 01:51:52.399 --> 01:51:55.520 seem like people, but you can't make out details, you 1964 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:58.840 can't make out features. There's always this kind of smokiness 1965 01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:04.199 to them. When doing energy work with them, you know, 1966 01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:07.479 like I'll ground like clients, I will ground their entities. 1967 01:52:07.520 --> 01:52:09.920 And if I can ground their entity and the entity 1968 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:14.079 goes away, then it tells me that it's a thought 1969 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:18.319 for where if you give a real entity always sounds 1970 01:52:18.359 --> 01:52:21.119 like we're talking about when you give a real entity 1971 01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:24.640 a grounding for it grounding cord, it will just kind 1972 01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:28.880 of chow them out, you know. I mean in the 1973 01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:31.199

same way that it would give a person, you know. 1974 01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:33.560 And it took me a long time to figure out 1975 01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:36.199 because I mean, I do a lot of work with this, 1976 01:52:36.399 --> 01:52:38.680 you know, like, oh, well, I gave it a grounding 1977 01:52:38.720 --> 01:52:40.640 court and it kind of disappeared, and I'm thinking, oh, 1978 01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:42.800 I got rid of the entity. It's like, oh, that's 1979 01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:44.000 because it wasn't an entity. 1980 01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:44.720 It was a thought for. 1981 01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:48.520 And the more people think about it, and the more 1982 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:52.840 people freak out, and the more people get scared that 1983 01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:56.680 Oh my god, I got an entity. I'm gonna die. 1984 01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.880 It's it just makes it worse. 1985 01:53:01.359 --> 01:53:04.920 Yeah, I can imagine that. I would. I want to 1986 01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:08.239 talk about your your latest book and what brought you 1987 01:53:08.319 --> 01:53:12.359 to write it, The Dysfunctional Dance of the Impath and Narcissist, 1988 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:15.840 which seems a little different than the other ones you've written. 1989 01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:23.439 I think, so, you know, and I don't really have 1990 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:26.560 the issue being self disclosing. So I have a very 1991 01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:30.439 strong pattern of getting into toxic relationships and I've been 1992 01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:33.359 in too many I've been married too many times, and 1993 01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:43.039 so I had ended a relationship and this pattern was 1994 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:47.479 kind of like stuck in my face. I mean, I've 1995 01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:50.600 been on my spiritual path for you know, since ill, 1996 01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:54.119 you know, and doing all of this work, and it 1997 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:58.840 was really shocking to me that I could be stuck 1998 01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:03.399 in this pattern and not even see it, not even 1999 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:06.920 notice it, and not really understand what was going on 2000 01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:12.880 and why. And so I started digging because I wanted 2001 01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:15.680 to understand, you know, why was I doing this? 2002 01:54:15.720 --> 01:54:17.520 Because I don't want to do this again. I don't 2003 01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:18.920 want to do this anymore. 2004 01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:23.880 And you know, spirit communicates with me, you know, So 2005 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:27.600 I'm doing this research and you know, I got this 2006 01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:29.960 message that said, well, you should write a book about it, 2007 01:54:30.359 --> 01:54:36.199 and I'm like, okay, whatever. And then the next message was, 2008 01:54:36.279 --> 01:54:38.520 and you have to tell your story, and I'm like 2009 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:49.159 oh

and and so I tried avoiding that, but nothing 2010 01:54:49.279 --> 01:54:52.000 really moved forward. So then I like actually typed up 2011 01:54:52.039 --> 01:54:55.800 my story and the book just unfolded, you know, and 2012 01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:58.920 I would see a different word or I would get 2013 01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:03.119 well what about that? You know, and you know, so 2014 01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:06.520 the book is kind of broken up into you know, 2015 01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:12.199 I like to think three parts. The first part is 2016 01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:15.159 really taking a look at your stuff. You know. So 2017 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:18.279 people often think, oh, well, you know, they were a 2018 01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:20.680 bad person, you know, or they were really toxic, but 2019 01:55:20.800 --> 01:55:23.520 they were a narcissist or you know, blah blah blah, 2020 01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:26.800 and they blame the person that they're with, but don't 2021 01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:30.520 really take responsibility for what they brought to the table 2022 01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:33.319 in the first place and what got them caught there 2023 01:55:34.359 --> 01:55:37.439 in that, you know, in that dynamic. And so the 2024 01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:41.079 first part of the book really looks at you and 2025 01:55:41.359 --> 01:55:45.359 your family of origin because usually we're trained, kind of 2026 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:49.720 like religion, to be a certain way, you know. So 2027 01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:52.720 as I was talking about the woman who felt invisible, 2028 01:55:52.840 --> 01:55:56.479 you know. I could see her getting into toxic relationship 2029 01:55:56.560 --> 01:56:00.560 patterns because she's supposed to be invisible, and now she 2030 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:04.079 has her partner saying, well, this is what it's supposed 2031 01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:10.720 to be. But she doesn't have the skills or gumption, 2032 01:56:11.239 --> 01:56:16.119 maybe the feeling to sit there and put herself forward 2033 01:56:16.239 --> 01:56:20.119 because she is supposed to be invisible, you know. And 2034 01:56:20.199 --> 01:56:23.000 so it really has you take this very hard look 2035 01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:28.159 at yourself and your patterns and your family of origin 2036 01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:34.960 to kind of see how that all played into how 2037 01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:38.239 you got there in the first place, because you can't 2038 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:40.000 fix something that you're not aware of. 2039 01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:44.199 So I will say. 2040 01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:46.960 That there are some people that have tried to read 2041 01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:49.680 the book but it triggered too much in them. I've 2042 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:52.840 had a number of people say that it made me cry, 2043 01:56:53.520 --> 01:56:56.279 which is good, you know, because it's cathartic, you know, 2044 01:56:56.359 --> 01:57:02.520 you're grieving yourself. But they found healing, you know, because 2045 01:57:02.560 --> 01:57:07.279 it was like, oh, now I'm starting to understand you're gonna. 2046 01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:10.119 See well, yeah, I mean that's that's a great thing. 2047 01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:13.600 But I myself have found myself in the same predicament 2048 01:57:13.680 --> 01:57:16.880 when it comes to relationships. But this seems to be 2049 01:57:17.119 --> 01:57:19.760 like an epidemic though this seems to be There's so 2050 01:57:20.159 --> 01:57:22.840 many people, so many friends and family that I've known, 2051 01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:26.199 so many people acquaintances that have this same thing where 2052 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:31.520 they keep diving into toxic relationships. And this just seems 2053 01:57:31.640 --> 01:57:33.560 to be like around the board. Every once in a 2054 01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:37.159 while you'll see a people fit together and have a 2055 01:57:37.159 --> 01:57:40.039 good relationship. But why is it that the majority of 2056 01:57:40.119 --> 01:57:43.680 people these days are getting into these toxic relationships? 2057 01:57:43.720 --> 01:57:50.720 You think, so I think, you know, I'm just looking at. 2058 01:57:51.039 --> 01:57:54.359 How are you probably older than you think? 2059 01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:54.800 Yeah? 2060 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:55.159 For sure. 2061 01:57:55.239 --> 01:57:59.800 Okay, you know I think that in Okay, I'm gonna 2062 01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:03.399 see it this way. You know, I would not want 2063 01:58:03.479 --> 01:58:09.720 to be a young person these days because everybody wins, 2064 01:58:10.119 --> 01:58:12.600 you know, everybody is good, and. 2065 01:58:12.520 --> 01:58:14.640 So they're not really taught boundaries. 2066 01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:18.640 They're not taught to be kind, you know, they're taught 2067 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:20.840 to well what am I going to get? You know, 2068 01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:24.560 and everybody's got their hand out, and they're not taught to. 2069 01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:27.680 Have responsibility. 2070 01:58:27.960 --> 01:58:30.359 You know, when my son was in school, he was 2071 01:58:30.479 --> 01:58:34.760 part of this group and it was a class and 2072 01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:38.920 they would like do these little projects and you know, 2073 01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:43.199 like make little gift baskets for the bus drivers, and 2074 01:58:43.479 --> 01:58:46.640 you know, so, I mean, the motive was good of 2075 01:58:46.680 --> 01:58:49.880 what they were doing, but every week he would come 2076 01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:52.039 home and he's like, well, I need five dollars for this, 2077 01:58:52.199 --> 01:58:54.399 or I need twenty dollars for this, or I need 2078 01:58:54.439 --> 01:59:00.239 three bags of candy for this. And it pissed me off. Like, 2079 01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:02.880 you know, if you need me to make cupcakes for 2080 01:59:03.079 --> 01:59:06.199

bake sale, and you sell the cupcakes at the bake 2081 01:59:06.279 --> 01:59:09.800 sale and you use that money to fund this project, 2082 01:59:10.199 --> 01:59:10.560 I'm in. 2083 01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:11.439 I'm good. 2084 01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:13.760 You know, you want to have a car wash and 2085 01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:15.600 you need some help, I'm in. 2086 01:59:15.840 --> 01:59:16.520 I'm good with that. 2087 01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:20.439 But if you're just coming with your handout, you've learned 2088 01:59:20.479 --> 01:59:25.239 nothing other than to beg and then I'm going to say, okay. 2089 01:59:26.279 --> 01:59:28.279 You know, and I think that there's a lot of 2090 01:59:28.319 --> 01:59:31.640 that that happens now where parents won't say no to 2091 01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:37.960 their children and we are literally growing a bunch of narcissists. 2092 01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:43.560 You know, I've had multiple clients who they get a job, 2093 01:59:43.800 --> 01:59:46.680 you know, they go to a trade school, they graduate 2094 01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:51.039 high school, whatever. And I'll use this one story in particular. 2095 01:59:51.159 --> 01:59:54.319 So this guy went to automotive training. He got hired 2096 01:59:54.359 --> 01:59:57.279 at a place like changing to change the oil. I 2097 01:59:57.279 --> 01:59:59.640 think it was a dealership, and that's what they had 2098 01:59:59.680 --> 02:00:03.119 him doing, changing oil. And by the end of three months, 2099 02:00:03.159 --> 02:00:05.760 he was pissed off because he was still changing oil 2100 02:00:06.039 --> 02:00:10.000 and he hadn't been promoted into doing something else. Now meanwhile, 2101 02:00:10.119 --> 02:00:19.199 he just graduated school and he quit because he felt somehow, 2102 02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:27.199 you know, put down because he wasn't like the president 2103 02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:30.760 of the company after three months, you know. And so 2104 02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:34.760 you see a lot of that happening, you know. And 2105 02:00:34.800 --> 02:00:37.279 I'm going to put that more in the younger younger 2106 02:00:37.279 --> 02:00:38.239 than the generation. 2107 02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:42.640 Right, it's like the strange sense of entitlement for some reason. 2108 02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:48.319 But narcissism is all based on entitlement, you know. So 2109 02:00:48.920 --> 02:00:51.800 the two big dynamics that I talk about the book 2110 02:00:52.319 --> 02:00:55.880 is a core belief of entitlement that everybody should give 2111 02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:58.319 me stuff and I should be the best person, and 2112 02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:00.960 you know, I should get the pro even if I 2113 02:01:01.000 --> 02:01:05.399 didn't do anything. That's entitlement, you know. And then on 2114 02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:08.960 the flip side of it is something that's called subjugation, 2115 02:01:09.600 --> 02:01:13.560 where you're going to give of yourself either to get

2116 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:19.000 love and appreciation from other people or to not experience. 2117 02:01:18.359 --> 02:01:20.560 A negative consequence, you know. 2118 02:01:20.720 --> 02:01:24.439 So kind of yeah, so my life was negative consequence 2119 02:01:24.520 --> 02:01:27.560 it wasn't about getting love and appreciation without not getting 2120 02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:32.159 whacked up the side of the head. And so, you know, 2121 02:01:32.239 --> 02:01:34.640 you and I'm sure everyone's heard the term people please 2122 02:01:35.159 --> 02:01:38.720 you know. So people that are people pleasers, just in 2123 02:01:38.760 --> 02:01:44.840 the generic sense, have that subjugation or belief. And so 2124 02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:49.520 you get this person who will do things, you know, 2125 02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:53.880 either so they don't get in trouble or to get love, attention, affection, 2126 02:01:54.560 --> 02:02:00.359 notice from someone else. They will naturally gravitate to this 2127 02:02:00.479 --> 02:02:03.640 person who wants to take it. You know. 2128 02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:06.159 They're kind of opposite ends of the spectrum. 2129 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:09.640 And what becomes very sad is that, you know, the 2130 02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:15.199 people pleaser that I call the unhealed impact wants to give, give, give, give, give, 2131 02:02:16.039 --> 02:02:22.119 and the self centered, entitled narcissist wants to take and 2132 02:02:22.279 --> 02:02:26.840 is more than happy to take, you know. And there's benefit, 2133 02:02:27.479 --> 02:02:30.880 you know, personal benefit, because it makes the people pleaser 2134 02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:34.520 feel like they're doing something, you know, and so there 2135 02:02:34.640 --> 02:02:38.800 is an internal benefit for that. Or they think that 2136 02:02:38.880 --> 02:02:41.279 this is what you're supposed to do because that's what 2137 02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:44.600 they've done their whole life, you know, in their families, 2138 02:02:45.640 --> 02:02:48.039 you know, and so even just sitting there and having 2139 02:02:48.039 --> 02:02:51.079 the realization it's like, Wow, you know, I'm a pretty. 2140 02:02:50.840 --> 02:02:51.800 Big people pleaser. 2141 02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:59.800 Oops. Yeah, And people that are narcissistic, you know, or 2142 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:05.520 self centered, if they read my book, it would never 2143 02:03:05.560 --> 02:03:10.000 apply to them. They would never see them because they're perfect, 2144 02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:12.319 you know, and it couldn't be them. 2145 02:03:12.640 --> 02:03:12.840 Now. 2146 02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.079 They may be able to sit there in point to 2147 02:03:15.319 --> 02:03:21.119 front of theirs that might be more self centered and 2148 02:03:21.319 --> 02:03:26.119 more entitled in behavior than they are, but they would 2149 02:03:26.159 --> 02:03:29.119 never self reflect that. 2150 02:03:29.279 --> 02:03:31.920

Maybe I have an issue ever. 2151 02:03:33.399 --> 02:03:36.800 Yeah. Now, one of the things I learned a hard 2152 02:03:36.880 --> 02:03:39.079 lesson very early on in my life is that you 2153 02:03:39.159 --> 02:03:42.760 can't stick around in any toxic situations. You gotta you know, 2154 02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:44.720 you got to do it's best for you and get 2155 02:03:44.760 --> 02:03:46.520 out of it. And I think that's the best answer 2156 02:03:46.600 --> 02:03:48.720 for this for things like that. But why do people 2157 02:03:49.399 --> 02:03:51.920 kind of cling onto that even when you know it's 2158 02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:55.159 to the detriment of their theirselves, their safety, their health. 2159 02:03:55.239 --> 02:03:59.359 I mean, I've seen some very strange situations where this 2160 02:03:59.600 --> 02:04:02.000 you know, this person is miserable, hates their life, hates 2161 02:04:02.039 --> 02:04:05.520 their partner, but yet they're sticking with them for some reason. 2162 02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:07.720 I don't know, what do you think? 2163 02:04:07.760 --> 02:04:09.239 Have you been hanging out at my house? 2164 02:04:09.319 --> 02:04:09.520 Right? 2165 02:04:12.840 --> 02:04:13.079 You know? 2166 02:04:13.199 --> 02:04:16.159 So there's actually a number of reasons why that can happen. 2167 02:04:16.600 --> 02:04:21.439 You know what I find, Well, there's a couple that 2168 02:04:21.479 --> 02:04:22.840 are kind of on equal footing. 2169 02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:24.920 But I'm going to talk about women. 2170 02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:29.680 In particular because this one is just a really challenging one. 2171 02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:33.960 You know, in our society, it's like women aren't push 2172 02:04:34.199 --> 02:04:39.760 to provide, they're not push to financially take care of themselves. 2173 02:04:40.159 --> 02:04:43.479 You know, if you bring children into the dynamic, you know, 2174 02:04:43.560 --> 02:04:46.439 they might become a stay at home mother, you know. 2175 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:51.279 And so many many of my clients in particular, or 2176 02:04:51.319 --> 02:04:55.640 I belong to some groups online, find themselves in financial 2177 02:04:55.760 --> 02:04:58.760 situations where they just can't go. 2178 02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:02.720 You know, they don't have a car, they. 2179 02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:04.840 Don't have a job, or they have a job, but 2180 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:07.840 they're getting paid minimum wage and they have three kids, 2181 02:05:07.880 --> 02:05:10.600 and they can't support their three kids on minimum wage, 2182 02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:16.399 you know, and it becomes a giant financial hold on 2183 02:05:16.680 --> 02:05:20.920 This person. Actually had one lady that was hoping her 2184 02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:24.399 husband would die. She would come and get readings and 2185 02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:27.520 ask about her husband's health. I swear to God and 2186 02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:30.680 ask about her husband's health, and I'm like, well he's fine. 2187 02:05:31.119 --> 02:05:33.279 And the funniest thing was is she ended up at 2188 02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:35.640 a show getting a reading from my girlfriend, and my 2189 02:05:35.720 --> 02:05:39.720 girlfriend calls me over and I just looked here, and 2190 02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:42.279 I goes, so, you're just staying in your relationship so 2191 02:05:42.359 --> 02:05:44.319 that you don't have to give up the sofa in 2192 02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:48.560 the lamp. And she just didn't want to lose any 2193 02:05:48.600 --> 02:05:51.279 of the things that she had benefited. 2194 02:05:51.840 --> 02:05:52.439 Oh wow. 2195 02:05:52.479 --> 02:05:55.199 You know. So if you're in a relationship with someone 2196 02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:58.399 and you split up, you know, there is that possibility 2197 02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:00.680 that you're not going to have to see status. You're 2198 02:06:00.720 --> 02:06:04.520 not going to have to see it's different, and you 2199 02:06:04.640 --> 02:06:08.039 have to get to the place where you're okay moving 2200 02:06:08.119 --> 02:06:11.159 from a really nice house into a small apartment, you know, 2201 02:06:11.319 --> 02:06:14.079 whatever that is. And a lot of people are not 2202 02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:15.359 willing to do that. 2203 02:06:15.439 --> 02:06:18.760 They would rather be miserable than give up their lifestyle. 2204 02:06:19.840 --> 02:06:22.479 Right on now for the last few minutes we have 2205 02:06:22.520 --> 02:06:24.239 and you have to take off soon. Maybe you could 2206 02:06:24.279 --> 02:06:26.800 give people advice on what they should look for to 2207 02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:31.680 avoid getting into these types of relationships and situations, any 2208 02:06:31.800 --> 02:06:34.439 like warning signs or red flags they should look for. 2209 02:06:35.600 --> 02:06:40.680 Okay, you know, so, I think the best one is 2210 02:06:40.680 --> 02:06:43.359 is it really moving really fast? 2211 02:06:43.800 --> 02:06:45.880 Okay? This is the one that gets me every time, 2212 02:06:46.399 --> 02:06:47.159 you know, but not. 2213 02:06:47.159 --> 02:06:53.760 Anymore, not anymore, damn it. You know, where you start 2214 02:06:53.840 --> 02:06:57.840 dating them and you know now they like want you 2215 02:06:57.920 --> 02:06:59.720 to move in with them, you know, but it's only 2216 02:06:59.800 --> 02:07:03.920 been three weeks, you know, and the pace is very fast, 2217 02:07:04.840 --> 02:07:07.520 you know that. I mean, it could be true love, 2218 02:07:07.840 --> 02:07:12.119 but you can give it more time to let the 2219 02:07:12.199 --> 02:07:15.840 relationship unfold. You know. People that are very self centered 2220 02:07:15.920 --> 02:07:18.640 can act very kind and loving and giving to you 2221 02:07:19.520 --> 02:07:21.920 for a certain period of time, you. 2222 02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:25.199 Know, but after six months or a year,

or. 2223 02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:28.239 Possibly even two years, it's like they can't do that anymore. 2224 02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:31.159 You know, they can't hold up that mask. 2225 02:07:31.399 --> 02:07:31.760 And so. 2226 02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:35.920 You know, giving it more time before you make any 2227 02:07:36.079 --> 02:07:41.359 kind of deep level commitment to you know again, moving in. 2228 02:07:41.319 --> 02:07:44.439 Together, whatever, having a child together. 2229 02:07:46.279 --> 02:07:49.560 You know, if you're with someone and they say mean 2230 02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:54.239 things to you or main things about you to other people, 2231 02:07:54.399 --> 02:07:58.439 even in your presence, you know, that's a red flag. 2232 02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:03.600 I think an easier way of even identifying that is 2233 02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:07.439 do they say or do things that bother you, like 2234 02:08:07.680 --> 02:08:10.439 on a deep level, you know, one of the things. 2235 02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:13.600 So I have a big I grew up in a 2236 02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:14.159 big family. 2237 02:08:14.199 --> 02:08:17.880 I have seven brothers and sisters with very diverse personalities 2238 02:08:18.399 --> 02:08:22.520 and so I learned, and I'm sure my brothers and 2239 02:08:22.600 --> 02:08:28.159 sisters all learned, how you learn to accept different behaviors 2240 02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.720 in different personality. And it's like being a jerk, you know, 2241 02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:35.039 and you just accept that they're a jerk, you know. 2242 02:08:35.399 --> 02:08:37.960 But when you're in a relationship with somebody, you know, 2243 02:08:38.000 --> 02:08:40.359 and it's a good relationship with someone, you don't have 2244 02:08:40.439 --> 02:08:45.199 to accept bad behavior. That's been that's been my biggest lesson. 2245 02:08:45.239 --> 02:08:47.600 It's kind of like, well, you know, but that's just 2246 02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:50.279 who they are. It's like, well, just because that's who 2247 02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:52.720 they are, it doesn't mean I have to like it, 2248 02:08:53.239 --> 02:08:55.439 and it doesn't mean I have to hang around it, 2249 02:08:55.760 --> 02:08:58.760 you know. So if they're doing things that bother you, 2250 02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:01.840 you know, let's say they drink much, you know, or 2251 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:05.159 they aren't really supportive of what you want to do 2252 02:09:05.399 --> 02:09:09.600 or what your dreams are, you know, or they criticize. 2253 02:09:08.800 --> 02:09:11.760 You or you know, you find that. 2254 02:09:14.079 --> 02:09:18.039 They can say mean things to you or cancel plans 2255 02:09:18.479 --> 02:09:22.439 or whatever, and then you do the same thing back. 2256 02:09:22.600 --> 02:09:25.199 You may do a last minute of cancelation, or you 2257 02:09:25.279 --> 02:09:28.920 make some kind of smart ass comment to them and 2258 02:09:29.000 --> 02:09:32.399 they have a meltdown, you know. But then if they 2259 02:09:32.560 --> 02:09:35.399 do it and you have a meltdown, there's something wrong 2260 02:09:35.479 --> 02:09:39.439 with you, and you know you're a blame and black black, 2261 02:09:39.560 --> 02:09:43.960 black black black. You know. Bottom line, there is tons 2262 02:09:44.000 --> 02:09:49.239 of information online, you know. I would love people get 2263 02:09:49.279 --> 02:09:52.840 my book, The Dysfunctional Dance of the Empathic Narcissist. You know. 2264 02:09:53.000 --> 02:09:57.479 But there are some great YouTube channels like Lisa Romano 2265 02:09:57.920 --> 02:10:01.119 talks about codependent behavior relationships. 2266 02:10:01.159 --> 02:10:01.960 She's wonderful. 2267 02:10:02.960 --> 02:10:06.760 I just recently found another one who I've been watching recently, 2268 02:10:07.279 --> 02:10:13.359 Crappy Childhood Fairy. I love the name Crabby Childhood Fairy. 2269 02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:16.159 You know. But if you're concerned that you're in a 2270 02:10:16.239 --> 02:10:20.119 narcissistic relationship again there, you know, I would just go 2271 02:10:20.159 --> 02:10:23.079 to YouTube. There are tons of resources there. 2272 02:10:23.199 --> 02:10:25.279 And my book Functional Dance. 2273 02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:30.560 Yes, great, well, doctor Rita, this was fantastic. Uh before 2274 02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:32.960 you head out, let everyone know where they can find 2275 02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:36.880 your books, your work, social media, all that good stuffy 2276 02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:37.479 you know. 2277 02:10:37.520 --> 02:10:40.640 So. My web page is soul healer dot com s 2278 02:10:40.760 --> 02:10:43.880 O U L H E A L E R dot com. 2279 02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:48.560 Solhealer dot com. It has a bunch of articles on 2280 02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:52.880 there covering a huge range of topics. You can get 2281 02:10:52.960 --> 02:10:55.439 my books on that web page. My books are also 2282 02:10:55.439 --> 02:10:57.920 available on Amazon dot Com or you know, all the 2283 02:10:58.000 --> 02:11:01.239 regular traditional places, but if you get it from me, 2284 02:11:01.359 --> 02:11:03.760 it comes autographed and that's priceless. 2285 02:11:04.039 --> 02:11:04.239 Nice. 2286 02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:11.439 Again, there's all the articles, there's some videos on Facebook. 2287 02:11:11.479 --> 02:11:14.880 It's doctor Riga Luiz on Facebook. Oh I know. And 2288 02:11:14.960 --> 02:11:17.079 if you want to reach out to me to have 2289 02:11:17.119 --> 02:11:20.920 a session, because I work with people online like Skype, 2290 02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:27.079 not zoom and over the phone, primarily use the contact 2291 02:11:27.119 --> 02:11:30.560 form because that will come right into my inbox and 2292 02:11:30.640 --> 02:11:34.439 I always respond, you know, and then if I don't respond, 2293 02:11:34.520 --> 02:11:36.119 check your junk mail because that's where it is. 2294 02:11:36.840 -->

02:11:39.960 Excellent. Well, doctor Rita, thank you so much. We will 2295 02:11:40.000 --> 02:11:43.399 definitely be speaking again in the future and I'll be 2296 02:11:43.439 --> 02:11:43.880 in touch. 2297 02:11:44.680 --> 02:11:47.119 Perfect sounds great, awesome. 2298 02:11:47.159 --> 02:11:49.640 Well the next time, everyone, have an excellent evening and 2299 02:11:49.680 --> 02:11:54.239 we will be talking tomorrow. We'll see you then. 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