บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Very Loud and Very Wrong

Knowledge started from learning all of this on Friday, you know, that kind of thing. So we were literally thinking that this is what L.A. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: Is like. 00:05:28 Speaker 1: Like, if you go, you know, you might get shot on every corner. Like, we were just like, man, it seems rough out there in Los Angeles, as we say from Detroit, with our 600 murders a year, right? 00:05:38 Speaker 2: Exactly. Like, L.A. is like, wow, pretty dangerous. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: Right. 00:05:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:05:43 Speaker 3: First of all, OK, I don't even have this conversation with you. 00:05:48 Speaker 2: OK, so the costume was 10 out of 10. It was. Thank you. 00:05:51 Speaker 1: So but the thing is with it is like I took a very specific scene and the scene is when Regina King because this was remember at this point, most people had been associating Regina King with being Brenda on 227. So we did not see this side of Regina King. So she got a 40. She has on some headphones and, you know, they're passing around the 40 as apparently y'all used to do in L.A. 00:06:17 Speaker 2: As sitting on the porch. 00:06:19 Speaker 1: And so she drinks all the 40 and hands it back to Ice Cube, empty bottle. And he was like, you better take your ass to the store with that shit. So I was Regina King, Shalonda in the movie. 00:06:32 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was it was it was quite fun. 00:06:35 Speaker 3: But let's remind the folks, because for those who've known you for some years and followed your career, when you reenacted that scene with Mike on His and Hers of Boys in the Hood, you were Ice Cube. And so was that the wig that you gave. 00:06:49 Speaker 2: Ian to wear? 00:06:50 Speaker 3: Because Ian, I was like, why is Ian trying to be what Jemele already did? Y'all didn't discuss that you had already done this, like no notes? 00:06:57 Speaker 1: No, we didn't because we, our thing came together very last minute. So originally we had another idea planned. 00:07:04 Speaker 2: Going in mind. 00:07:06 Speaker 1: But that was for a separate party that I couldn't attend because I was in D.C. And so that was like a full on Halloween party. This dress up was because we were going to Gabrielle Union's birthday party and her theme was So L.A. So you could come as like your favorite. It was everything had to be L.A. 00:07:25 Speaker 2: Based. 00:07:26 Speaker 1: So that, you know, that gave you a certain amount of options. So we were just trying to think, okay, what can we put together? And I was like, oh, let's do this. Because it didn't really involve much. It's like, okay, we get a Detroit hat. All I had to do, I ordered a- You didn't answer my question. What, in terms of like, no, we never talked about it. Like, we were just really trying to. 00:07:46 Speaker 2: Stick to theme. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: Because I was thinking about movies that were important as we were growing up. And this, The Boys in the Hood, of course, was the one. I. 00:07:56 Speaker 3: First of all, people who didn't grow up in L.A., when they talk about Boys in the Hood so affectionately, it really is special to me because. 00:08:03 Speaker 2: It makes me laugh, right? 00:08:04 Speaker 3: Because it's, Boys in the Hood felt very much like, yes, an L.A. 00:08:08 Speaker 2: Moment. 00:08:09 Speaker 3: There was a time in L.A. where people would drive up and down Crenshaw and they had the car clubs. And whatever car club you were a part of, if you had, I'm going to name some random cars, Nissan Sentras, right? 00:08:18 Speaker 2: They had the Sentra Club with rims. 00:08:20 Speaker 3: If you had a Bug, right, a VW Bug, they had the Volkswagen Bug Club. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: That was featured prominently. In the movie. Yeah. 00:08:28 Speaker 3: And your parents, if you were underage like I was, your parents would drop you off. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: Why would they do that? I don't know. 00:08:34 Speaker 1: The way they would just drop you off at the swap meet and everything. 00:08:38 Speaker 3: My mother would let me go stay with my god sister who was older than me. She had a license. And so we would just drive up and down. We weren't a part of any car clubs. This was like a summer to never forget. Like on a Sunday night. And you just drive up and down all night. Nothing to do. Just kids driving up and down all night looking at all the different car clubs. although we weren't cool enough to know anybody who was a member of a car club, but it was just an event. And I love when I hear people talk about it with so much love and affection because that movie did a few things. I think John Singleton, may he rest in peace, really was able to capture just a beautiful, innocent time. It was our version of happy days, but it was also very dangerous as well because gangs were a real thing and still are. 00:09:19 Speaker 2: I'm so far removed. I can't talk about gangs in that way. But I will tell you. 00:09:23 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful way to pay respect and love to a city that raised so many people in different ways. And we all went on to do different things, but like, you know, with Cuba Gooding Jr., you know, with his girlfriend, Nia Long, across the street, and they go to different colleges. One goes to Morehouse, the other one goes to Spelman. It was just a beautiful love story in so many different ways, but also very honest about how some make it out of the hood and some don't. And I always, I mean, I love that movie tremendously. So when I saw you guys do that, I thought that was brilliant. Gabby Union dressed up as Pretty Woman, which is also another famous moment in L.A. 00:09:59 Speaker 2: At the Beverly Hilton. And she had on that outfit. And I was like, oh, she killed that. What did D-Way dress up as? So D-Way, and you mentioned the car club. 00:10:09 Speaker 1: So when we pulled up to their spot- They have the cars. They have the 6'4s. They have all of them kind of out front. 00:10:19 Speaker 2: 6'4 Impala. They have the 6'4s, the 6'4 Impalas.

D. Wade. 00:10:27 Speaker 1: So I asked him, I said, so, sir, what's your outfit? And he's like, I'm a hiker. And I was like, now, sir. He's like, you know, people in L.A. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: Hike. 00:10:36 Speaker 2: And I was looking at him like, so that I was like, that reads to me. 00:10:40 Speaker 1: As if one didn't think of a costume and one. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: Just showed up. Hey, it's your house. You can show up. If anybody is. 00:10:47 Speaker 1: Allowed to violate the party rules, it is you. But there were a lot of great costumes. Like somebody came dressed as Elisa Silverstone in Clueless. That was a really good costume. And obviously another movie that was set in L.A. And, you know, some people wore Dodgers stuff because you either again, you could be a character from a L.A. 00:11:12 Speaker 2: Movie. 00:11:13 Speaker 1: You could show love to an L.A. sports team. So it wasn't all just sort of costume based. Saw Russell Westbrook there and his wife, Nina, who I know you're you're good friends with as well. So UCLA was firmly in the building. 00:11:28 Speaker 2: Let's go. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:11:30 Speaker 2: See, did nobody do that, though. No one did that. L.A. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: And also, of course, there's some musical performances. I mean, you've been to Gab's birthday parties before. It's always going to be a dynamite musical performance. So she had DJ Quick. And when I tell you I was getting my whole life, because. 00:11:48 Speaker 2: The way I used to love me. DJ Kookie's in the house. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: DJ Kookie's yelling that at the top of our lungs. So she had DJ Quick, Wiz Khalifa also performed. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: And then this is the part, this is when I said, oh, oh, I'm poor. I'm really poor. Okay. Well, yes. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: Given the couple that we're talking about. So we party and we having a good time. It's outdoors. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: It's heat and lamps. The food's spectacular. We vibing. Performers have performed. Everybody's still vibing. 00:12:19 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden there's an announcement made like, oh, this is the party. 00:12:23 Speaker 2: Y'all, it's an after party. I'm like, oh, an after party at the party. Okay. 00:12:28 Speaker 1: They're like, we're going to move to another location. So I'm like, oh, I was like, are we going to a second place? I was like, what's going on here? They escorted all of us down to their lower level of their house, right? 00:12:41 Speaker 2: This is what technically is their garage. We get in the garage. girl, why have they turned this into a beach club with real sand? I was like, oh, I knew I was poor. I know I'm five levels of poor. Real sand. 00:12:57 Speaker 1: And they have, you know, just this incredible beach layout. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: It is spectacular. And I was like, see, you know what? I aspire. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: I aspire to put sand in my garage. The way the Wades put sand in their garage and gave us. 00:13:14 Speaker 2: Beach balls and everything. 00:13:16 Speaker 1: And they had another performer, a live band, and we got our whole lives. And so it was just a good old time. I am so bummed I missed it. Yes, you were definitely missed. Because as I said, all your L.A. folks was there. Candace Parker. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: I literally called Gabby and said, you reminded me. 00:13:35 Speaker 2: I said, I'm so sorry. I couldn't make it. I'm bummed. And I knew it would be great. I knew it would be amazing. It was amazing. They never throw a bad party. Never. I've never not. 00:13:44 Speaker 3: And this sounds like really annoying things. But they love to have a good time. What do y'all say about them? They love to have a good time. They love to dance. They want to make sure everybody is happy. They want to be drama-free. They just want to have a good time. And I so appreciate that. They always give the best parting gifts. What did you part with? 00:14:02 Speaker 2: Did you take anything home? I don't think I did. Well, that's okay. They gave you sand. 00:14:07 Speaker 1: Yes, they gave me sand and plenty of tequila, which was wonderful. The food was really good. Oh, and also performing. They had a dance troupe that was dressed as the Clovers from her famous role in Bring It On. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: The Compton Clovers. And so the Compton Clovers performed. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: Oh, shit. And everything. But you're all right. 00:14:28 Speaker 1: They are not the kind of people, because sometimes you go to parties that celebrities throw and And the people who throw the parties, you know, they try to be cool. Gab was on the dance floor. D-Wade was on, like, we were getting our lives. We were getting our lives in every possible way. And they're also good at curating, I think, a really good group of people. So they're very good at that. 00:14:50 Speaker 2: They're very clear. 00:14:52 Speaker 3: Like, if you come in, you have to come and dance and enjoy and have a good time. 00:14:55 Speaker 2: And enjoy and just have a good spirit. And participate. 00:14:58 Speaker 3: Like the fact that you all dressed up and let me just give Ian, just Ian, sorry. I didn't know he had the D hat on. 00:15:03 Speaker 2: I'm so LA. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: He was like, you just want to complain. I was like, God, no, you're not talking about nobody. Just making fun of somebody. When I walk in Jamel's house, her husband don't let me breathe before he got to give me a hard time. 00:15:14 Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all it's Pam and Gina. It is Pam or not Pam and Gina. It is Pam and Martin. That is Pam and Martin. I'm all like. 00:15:24 Speaker 2: Hi, he's like, I hate you. I'm like, why? I hate you back. I'm like, what? You make me sick. But good job. Yes. Bravo. Thank you. Everything looked amazing. 00:15:35 Speaker 3: Everything looked amazing. We tried. 00:15:36 Speaker 1: I mean, I got into Halloween a little more this year than I typically do. I actually put out some candy, which I

don't think I've ever done. 00:15:42 Speaker 2: You put out candy too? Okay. 00:15:43 Speaker 3: I put out So in my building, they're very conservative. And I got the good candy. I spent a lot of money. And I put the good candy, like full candy bars. You did full candy bars? 00:15:54 Speaker 2: I did Snickers. I did Hershey's. I did Mr. Good Bars. I did Rolos. Not Rolo. I did Skittle Packets. Girl, I did all the old school. I did, you name it. I did Twix. I did Kit Kat. 00:16:06 Speaker 1: Tell me you didn't have no nasty-ass Butterfingers in there, did you? 00:16:10 Speaker 2: No, but I wish I did. 00:16:11 Speaker 1: I love Mr. 00:16:11 Speaker 2: Butterfingers. No, you don't. I love him. 00:16:13 Speaker 1: Who but a serial killer loves Butterfingers? 00:16:15 Speaker 2: Butterfingers suck. 00:16:17 Speaker 3: In the comments, if you roll with Butterfingers, tell me. 00:16:19 Speaker 2: I'll tell you the same thing. It's terrible. It's like rolling with candy corn. 00:16:23 Speaker 1: If you like candy corn, Homeland Security, I'm calling. 00:16:28 Speaker 2: Ice on you if you like it. I'm calling ice on Peter. He don't like them. Butterfingers are amazing. Thank you, Coscarelli. But Coscarelli crazy. We know this. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know I love Coscarelli in this moment right now. Oh, in this moment. He said that right now. He's fine. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: And then it's diabolical. He rolled with Butterfingers and candy corn. I see why you single cask early. 00:16:50 Speaker 2: I see why. Don't tell nobody else that. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: Candy corn is such a controversial candy. Like people just do not fool with candy corn. And it's like, but the people who love it, love it down. It's so it's like it really is polarizing, almost like personality. Like if you like candy corn, you're like, oh, I don't like I agree with you. Candy corn is the very few people I know who like candy corn. 00:17:09 Speaker 2: Candy corn is for savages. It just it just is. Is it for the guys. 00:17:14 Speaker 3: Who button their shirts all the way down to the middle and leave their chest hair out? 00:17:19 Speaker 2: Is that who it is? It is. It's for people who have a Clark Kent Superman curl. Is it like, ladies, you come here often kind of guy? 00:17:27 Speaker 1: Yes, it's for people who move 62 times in one year. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: Swirling his drink. Yes, swirling his drink. Ladies, do you come here often? It's your first time here, ladies. It's for men with smoking jackets. That's who candy corn is for. I have many leather-bound books. 00:17:44 Speaker 3: But, okay, so the reason why I couldn't make Gappy's party was because I had to go to Philly. And I want to say when we take this show on the road, we have to go to Philly. 00:17:51 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: And the reason why we have to go to Philly is because there was so much love. I did an event. I hosted an event for the Leon H. Sullivan Trust. And it is a charitable trust that they are basically giving more new life to. 00:18:04 Speaker 2: Leon H. 00:18:05 Speaker 3: Sullivan was an activist, a hero, an entrepreneur. He was a reverend as well as a doctor. But he did so much for that community, and he was really about economic empowerment so that you can have moral power. And these are people that you just don't learn about in school sometimes. There are so many different heroes that have contributed to the existence of the culture in different ways, and he's one of them. And my girlfriend now runs the trust and she asked me to host this event. And I spent the weekend in Philly or the weekday, I guess a couple of days in Philly. 00:18:34 Speaker 2: Two things came out of it. One, I learned a lot about Leon H. 00:18:37 Speaker 3: Sullivan and I'm honored and almost sad that I didn't know because it's just one of these names people just don't know much about. But I had a bunch of people hit me up on the side like, no, he's one of my favorite heroes. I learned about him in school, et cetera, et cetera. He died in 2001. So it wasn't like it was like that long ago, but he contributed to the culture and economic empowerment. He was a big mover in anti-apartheid. He did a lot of wonderful work. So that night was amazing. But I met so many people, women specifically, who would be like, you know, I don't really know the sports, but you and Jamila. 00:19:09 Speaker 2: Make me watch them. I really love Flagrant and Funny. They had nothing but love for Flagrant and Funny. 00:19:16 Speaker 3: And what I realized more and more, while I think our audience by and large is men, like because men love sports and they always have something to say, But I do believe we are finding our way with women who are interested in the W, if not with sports in general. And they are trying to find ways to enter into the world so that they can understand it more. And we've been able to provide that. We're facilitating that for a lot of women. And I think that's really special. So I was so happy, you know, and I kind of figure with the demographic, you know, working women, women who have families but have enough time. to listen to a pod while they're at work or at home. And they were like, you know, they wanted to get to the gist of the WNBA. And obviously, we're going to talk about the finals coming up, right? The actual game. Congratulations to the Valkyries. Jamel's no longer in the prediction business. 00:20:04 Speaker 2: No, they retired me. Thank you. 00:20:07 Speaker 3: However, it was really wonderful to have these conversations. So it's an entryway. And all you need to do when you want to love something is find characters that you're interested in and be invested in those characters. And those characters start to develop. And I think for many of these women, we are the characters. They love the way that we talk about the sport. So I'm trying to keep that in mind as we do it. And we will be able to talk about these different sports. And these

women come in and say pretty soon they can have this conversation with their husband. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: But that was really fun. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: And then I also, outside of giving out candy, I also went to the Gotham game. 00:20:41 Speaker 2: They won the Shield. Nice. NWSL. Hey, we're talking NWSL on here. That's right. Full service. 00:20:48 Speaker 3: They won the Shield, which means they are for the regular season and they're on to the playoffs. So the next two playoff games will be, this is Gotham, that's in New York. That means they will have their two playoff games at home. And they let me light the torch. 00:21:00 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait. 00:21:01 Speaker 1: They let you get by some fire. Do they not know your reputation? Yeah, I said, I want to wear my hair. 00:21:07 Speaker 3: They said, you set it here and then you move back. 00:21:09 Speaker 2: You set it here and then you move back. You move back. 00:21:12 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:21:12 Speaker 2: But it was, girl, it was family fun. 00:21:14 Speaker 3: I know people, I had a blast. I was able to, I was like, this is really, I get this. I can do this all the time. Do you guys need me to do the Olympics? 00:21:21 Speaker 2: I'm okay. Like, it's coming. 28, I'm available. I mean, it is in L.A. You are a L.A. daughter. So there we go. They may go with an Olympian. It may not be. We'll see. We'll see. If you need a human, just a basic old little human, I'm here to do it. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: But I had a great weekend and I truly, truly, truly learned so much. One, about what they care about with our pod, which is really special because it's nice to know that people are listening. And you're not you're not caught up in what the Internet is saying. You get to cut through and you know that there are people who really appreciate the work that we're doing and you need to know that. And then I was able to just. 00:21:56 Speaker 2: Make a lot of new friends. And I'll get to that later. But, girl, I don't know. Philly had me in a chokehold. I was like, should I move to Philly? I feel like moving to Philly. A bearded man that got you. That's what that sound like. A bearded man in Philly done got you. Girl, he was fine. 00:22:08 Speaker 3: Let me tell you how fine he was. So I was walking outside and I was like. 00:22:12 Speaker 1: Listen, I interned in Philly. This is back in the late 90s. And I was like, bearded, just bearded men everywhere. And wonderful beards, soft beards that they oil. And I'm like, look at the Philly men out here. You know, so I understand. 00:22:32 Speaker 2: Well, you know what? I always, I always thought. First of all, you ain't right. 00:22:36 Speaker 3: What am I just wanted with the city history? How are you going to tell me who's the five man? 00:22:40 Speaker 2: Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. The city history. That's very true. Home of Jill Scott, Patti LaBelle, Boyz II Men. Yeah. Many folk. A home of freedom. Okay. But that is, that's wonderful. Yes. The Roots. My favorite hip hop band of all time. The Roots. 00:22:56 Speaker 1: You know, it is always good when you go out and you touch grass because you learn that while the Internet is something of a real place, it's not really a real place. 00:23:05 Speaker 2: And so I know that we, you know, we get a lot of flack online. 00:23:09 Speaker 1: We have, I do believe, not all men, but some of the men, they show up just because they just like to hate on us. I mean, it is kind of hilarious to me. They just want to make sure they remind us at every possible moment, you ain't cute, you ain't this, you ain't that, you a cat lady, you going to be single forever. 00:23:24 Speaker 2: I'm like, guys. Do you have something else to do? Not if that bearded boo in Philly got something to say about it. I know, that's right. He told you, he was cute. You're like, I wish, I wish. 00:23:35 Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know until this pod that so many men are makeup artists out there. 00:23:40 Speaker 2: I'm not even, we'll talk about that. Does my makeup look okay? 00:23:42 Speaker 3: You know what, let me get to the break because I was ready to fight everybody in the comments. Guys, coming up next, we are talking about, this is all after the break, Game 7. The Valkyries did it. They are a institution that should be studied. The girls were able to win their very first WNBA championship only after two years. We have so much to talk about, including Jamel being out of the prediction business. This is Flavored and Funny. Like, subscribe, tell us how much you like Jamel's makeup. 00:24:08 Speaker 2: We'll be right back in just a few moments. Carrie, game seven. Game seven. 00:24:22 Speaker 1: The two best words in sports. It was a terrific game seven between the Valkyries and the Dream, as you noted before the break. Of course, we know the Valkyries have won. Gabby Williams, she was like, it's time. Not today, okay? And for her to drop 30 points. I believe 28 maybe came in the second half, roundabouts. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: I thought it was 30 in the second half, was it? Or maybe 28, you're right. I thought it was 28. Same thing, 28, 30, 28. 00:24:50 Speaker 1: Yes, Peter just confirmed it was 28 in the second half. She was sensational. 00:24:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:24:55 Speaker 1: The Valkyries, I mean, this is, I think they, the stat that I heard afterwards was 28. They are the franchise who won a title the quickest in sports history in this country. 00:25:08 Speaker 2: It was them. Two years. It took them two years to win a WNBA title. 00:25:12 Speaker 1: And it was interesting hearing comments from the owner, Joe Lakeup, afterwards, who said that he gave Natalie Nicosi five years. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he wasn't playing. Okay. Yeah. 00:25:20 Speaker 1: Because five is still like, whoa. But they win it in two years. I mean, they're number one in everything now. They are the most valuable franchise in the WNBA, valued at around $ 800 million. They have the

highest attendance in the WNBA. And now they're the champions. So not enough can be said about this remarkable standard that they have now set. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams out. 00:25:45 Speaker 1: There that haven't won and leaning into excuses, but they have proven with investment, good leadership, Championship culture, you can win. And so enough cannot be said. The Valkyries, of course, they was giving it to me. They should have. 00:26:01 Speaker 2: I deserve it. What'd they say? Well, because I may have said in. 00:26:05 Speaker 1: A thread that after they had taken two very convincing losses, I don't know how this team wins another game against the tree. 00:26:15 Speaker 2: I mean... You talking about super loud and super wrong? Go ahead. 00:26:20 Speaker 1: I mean, I was very loud and very wrong. But I can take it, Valkyrie fans. 00:26:25 Speaker 2: Light me up. 00:26:26 Speaker 1: Look, on the spirit of Too Short and E-40, the 49ers, and Marshawn Lynch, light me the hell up. 00:26:34 Speaker 2: I deserve it. And Marshawn Lynch? Okay, okay, okay. Light me up, Bay Area. I deserve it. Okay, and so. 00:26:42 Speaker 3: You said that they would win, they being the Dreamer, win game seven. What do you think was the reason why they did not win game seven? 00:26:49 Speaker 2: Talk to me about yours. This is a long list of things. 00:26:52 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:26:53 Speaker 1: One, because it's never one person or one, it's like a multitude of things. I came into this with the opinion, and I don't think it was a wrong opinion, but that the Atlanta Dream. 00:27:05 Speaker 2: Just had more offensive firepower. 00:27:07 Speaker 1: And that's why I thought that they would win the game because I thought You know, between Alicia Gray, you know, Ryan Howard, Angel Reese, Jordan Canada. It's like, okay, it feels like they may offensively be in a better position than the Valkyries, who obviously have the best defense in the league. I thought their offense was stagnant. I didn't think that they adjusted well. to some of the things defensively that the Valkyries were doing to them. After Angel's 30-point game midway through this series, Natalie Nkosi talked about how they decided to make her the focus on offense. And they really, because on this team, like, she's such a versatile player. I think a lot of people would say, okay, well, Ryan, you know, like, Ryan and Alicia are their go-to offensive weapons, right? 00:27:54 Speaker 2: But she decided to shift the focus. 00:27:56 Speaker 1: And it disrupts so much of what they were trying to do offensively. I think the Dream, they live a lot off turnovers. They need turnovers. They like a fast pace. That's kind of their bread and butter. And when you shut that down and make them a half-court team, at least in this series, they were offensively all over the place. 00:28:16 Speaker 2: I thought they did a fantastic job on Angel Reese. 00:28:18 Speaker 1: Some of it is that I think Angel Reese was trying to play within the flow of the game. But in a game seven, considering that we're just a couple days removed from, or a couple games removed from talking about her as finals MVP, and her fans did not like when I said this. I said, well, game seven, she's in single digits. I think she had eight points, but only took seven field goals, which is not all on her. 00:28:41 Speaker 2: Some of that is on her team. She had four turnovers. 00:28:44 Speaker 1: Yes, she had 12 rebounds, but that can't be her game in a game seven. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: It can't be. 00:28:50 Speaker 1: Some of this is on her teammates for not getting her the ball. Some of this is on the Valkyries in the sense that they deserve a lot of credit. But I needed her to bring the same energy that she brought in that game when she dropped that 30, where she was like, give me the ball. And if you got to chin check some people to get it, then you have to do that. Some of this too, as I noted, and they didn't like this on threads because her fans are extremely, extremely protective. And they have to understand that I'm talking about basketball. I love Angel as a basketball player. I think her ceiling is super high. I've said this a thousand times, but you all got to stop being so sensitive. 00:29:28 Speaker 2: And she's a young player. Guess what? She doesn't have everything figured out. It's typical. 00:29:33 Speaker 1: It's her third year in the league. This is her first playoffs. And she got this close to winning a WNBA. championship, which means there are greater things ahead for her. But yes, offensively, she is going to have to widen her range and develop more as an offensive player so that she does become in the fourth quarter. It's kind of I don't want to make the comparison too wild, but listen, Asia Wilson, who's the best in the world, when they need a bucket, they know where they're going. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: It's Asia. Everything runs through Asia. They know this. And so I think. 00:30:10 Speaker 1: Angel Reese is going to be able to develop and should develop into being that player. 00:30:14 Speaker 2: Crunch time. We need a bucket. Here I am. Here I am right here. 00:30:18 Speaker 1: See what happened with the Valkyries. Crunch time came. Gabby Williams was like, it's me. And she took over the game. And so I think this is part of the evolution of Angel Reese. Hey, the best thing, they've all taken the losses. We've talked about it before. Kobe took it. Kobe took them. Magic took them. Everybody on their way to greatness. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: LeBron took them. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: LeBron took them. Like, literally, Wimby just took one last year. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: A bad one. 00:30:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:30:41 Speaker 2: A bad one. Everybody, this is part of the process. 00:30:44 Speaker 1: And y'all can't be so sensitive and not recognize the fact that part of your growth as a player is is to make sure that the next time this situation happens, tell you what, it ain't

going down like this. 00:30:55 Speaker 2: I don't. 00:30:56 Speaker 3: Well, one, I'm going to address your point about the sensitivity of the fan base and they and they. 00:31:00 Speaker 2: Will be mad at us. 00:31:00 Speaker 3: There is there is and maybe, you know, and I don't want to use this as an excuse, but I do believe a lot of the newness of their fans, of the WNBA fans, they don't like when you say things that are not too kind about their favorite player. And they don't understand the difference between critique and analysis as opposed to just being a hater. Like, they're not being a hater by stating the obvious, but they definitely don't want to hear it. And maybe, and maybe, I'm not even going to put it on being new. I'm thinking about how fanatical I was about Kobe. Like, you couldn't say anything about him, even if it was true. 00:31:32 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 00:31:33 Speaker 3: So perhaps that just is what it is, and we have to live with that. And that's what her fans will do. 00:31:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: And I do know because even when we talked about, you know, why game six was at 1230, they. 00:31:46 Speaker 2: Were like, is that really important right now? 00:31:48 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we're just stating some facts like this is what I think structurally what we were trying to convey was. And hopefully it does help and people can see the bigger picture because as journalists, we're going to look for things that can improve, if not be watchdogs of society in ways that I think are important. But I think what Annie did on the show was talk about building a new infrastructure for a league that is getting worldwide attention. And if you want to play and run with the big dogs, you're going to have to act as such. You're going to have to act accordingly because you will get more. These ladies will get more money. You will get more attention. You will get more viewership. That's all there is to it. 00:32:23 Speaker 2: It's coming. 00:32:24 Speaker 3: By the way, Game 6 still did well, like did extremely well. But in my mind, I'm like, imagine if that was. I mean, and I wonder if it did so well because people were like, why is it at 1230? But imagine if it was prime time, right? I think maybe there's just so the ceiling is unlimited, right? That the ceiling right now is the floor. There's still so much more growth. Going back to the game, I didn't want to give a prediction for a few reasons. One, In my spirit, I'm always going to go for the California team, back to just how it is. So I didn't want to say that, right? And then in my mind, I also thought, I was like, I really want Angel to get it. I sound like one of these people, like, I wanted to have on my Angel Reach jersey and my Valkyries hat. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: Like that we saw in Long Beach. 00:33:03 Speaker 3: I was a real, I was full, full, and this is a joke for those who get it, we'll get it. I was full Jill Biden. 00:33:09 Speaker 2: Can they

both just do it? Can we bring them both to the White House? You know what I mean? 00:33:13 Speaker 3: Like. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: You guys don't get the joke. You'll get it. You got to research it. I will talk about that later. But I really enjoyed the game. 00:33:21 Speaker 3: And Gabby, to me, her story, her trajectory of why she had to leave the league, go back home because she wanted to feed her family, quote unquote, make more money, make a living. She's always known her worth and she plays with a slight chip on her shoulder as she should because Gabby Williams feels as if she hasn't been acknowledged and or recognized for how good she really is. She said as much. And so for her to take over and be like, move out the way, I felt like that was her time to do what she's known she's always been capable of doing. And she wanted people to see it on a larger stage. It does not mean that Angel Reese will not have her time. As she said, it might be delayed, but not denied. Angel Reese, these losses build you. Kobe used to say- Kobe used to say he would always let his daughters watch when he would lose the finals. They were like, Daddy, the only time that you cried... He'd tell this story all the time. The only time that I cried was when I lost to Boston. It was Game 7, and I'll tell you. Like, he goes and they sit. And all that does is motivate you. All that does is make you better. And so while you're taking all these L's and all this heat because of what you're saying in terms of your critique, it is only going to make Angel Reese a better player. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: You watch and you see. It doesn't feel good at the time. You don't want to hear it in a moment. I get it. But. 00:34:36 Speaker 3: The team that won was supposed to win because they did what they were supposed to do. This is why I know that when people are like, well, the WNBA is scripted and the NBA is scripted, it would have made perfect sense for Angel Reese and the Dream to win. That is the superstar of the league. 00:34:49 Speaker 1: Don't let our fans hear that because they think the league was against them because they didn't want Angel Reese to win. You already know why. you can guess the conspiracy of why they didn't want, they didn't, they thought the league didn't want her to win because they're in there. And the fact that they're saying, and I had to give credence to what is clearly silly, but it's just like, it would have from a popularity standpoint, like Andrew Reese is the, I think she has the most followers of any WNBA player on social media. 00:35:20 Speaker 3: Right. 00:35:20 Speaker 1: And so like, she's an extremely popular player. If they could pick extremely popular players to win, they would. They would do this. 00:35:28 Speaker 2: They would take that 8 out of 10 times. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: When we talk about the MNBA, the league does better when the Lakers are doing good. When the Lakers are winning, the league is getting more attention. And it just is. It's just because how the franchise is built. And maybe it could be the same for Boston. I'm not really for sure. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: But anyway. You would say that. Yeah. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: But think of the philosophy of why wouldn't they want her to win? All that does is grow the league. But look, I get it. I understand there are conspiracy theories. All I have to say is all this does is build her. And when she gets right in her prime, she. 00:36:00 Speaker 2: Will be undeniable. Like, Jordan was undeniable. 00:36:04 Speaker 3: LeBron was undeniable when he was going to the finals year after year after year after year. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: Kobe, you list the greats, all of them, you go down the list, Magic, all of them, they all had to win. Well, Magic didn't. Magic, he won when he. 00:36:18 Speaker 1: I know, he won as soon as he got to the league. 00:36:19 Speaker 2: He's the exception. 00:36:20 Speaker 1: But he did go through it with the Celtics. It's like when they were calling him Tragic Johnson. Like, yes, he went through it. So, I know. 00:36:29 Speaker 2: I mean, they all did. 00:36:30 Speaker 1: At one point, the narrative on Michael Jordan was that he was too selfish to ever win. 00:36:35 Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas had to go through it, too. 00:36:37 Speaker 1: When the Pistons lost to the Celtics, I think it was in the 87... Eastern Conference finals. 00:36:44 Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, heartbreak. 00:36:46 Speaker 1: Like most of the greats have to go through some level of heartbreak typically to get to the next level. 00:36:52 Speaker 2: That's the thing that pushes them over. 00:36:53 Speaker 1: And I'm sure Angel Reese, who was probably unsatisfied with the way that she played, and again, not putting it all on her, but she was probably unsatisfied. I'm sure she is saying to herself, Never again in a game seven will I have eight points and just take seven shots. 00:37:08 Speaker 2: Oh, wait, no way. Never again will that happen. And so that's what you want to see. I'm in the gym. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: I'm in the gym every day, all day, even during the off season. In between my photo shoots, in between these tours, in between vacations, even while on vacation. Like you're not, she is going to be such a different type of beast when she comes back. And then people now say, well, who's to blame? To your point, there are many people to blame. I'm still of the thought that you can, if you had a pie, you can divvy out shares to anyone. 00:37:37 Speaker 2: Like you said, it could be the Valkyries and what they were doing in defense. It could be the coach. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: It could be Angel only taking seven shots. 00:37:44 Speaker 2: It could be so many different things. 00:37:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, Reinhardt, like, Reinhardt, she had a bad series, generally speaking. She did not play well this whole series. And on top of that, there was— Alicia Grace hurt. 00:37:57 Speaker 3: Yes, Alicia, there was so many things, like, so many different

things. But at the end of the day, when it's all said and done— I believe the team that was supposed to win won. I know you guys feel like there might be all these other theories, but what they have been able, what the Valkyries, the Valkyries able to do with a team full of role, they were all called role players. None of these, none of those women on that team have ever really had set somewhere and said, I am it. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: I am the superstar. They have always been othered in some form or fashion. 00:38:27 Speaker 3: And so that is another story in itself, including Natalie. 00:38:32 Speaker 2: Peter, thanks for bringing that up. Including Natalie. Natalie, who was the assistant. 00:38:36 Speaker 3: For the Aces, was always sitting behind Becky. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: I'm going to say Betsy. Becky. And she was waiting for her time. Kia. Asia said, if it wasn't for Kia, we couldn't be here. 00:38:49 Speaker 1: Kia, who now has four rings. She on her way to some Robert Ori. 00:38:52 Speaker 2: She got four rings. She goes, updated bio. And I love it. Four-time WNBA champion. I say, update your bio. I also want to say I slid into her DMs and I told her, I said, you know what? Stop. Oh, sorry. My bad. Go ahead. I didn't mean to make that sound as spicy as it was. I'm like, Keri, you got something you want to tell us? I just told her you deserve. 00:39:14 Speaker 3: And I was happy for her because she does deserve this shine, this moment. Everybody deserves their moment to say, this is me. I did it on me, on my back, me, nobody else. I'm the shine right now. And she said, thank you. 00:39:26 Speaker 2: I said, you're welcome. I said, you're going to be sweet. And the sandwich. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: Charles. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: I was really proud of her. I said, you congratulate. She was like, thank you so much. I was like, you ladies are lovely. I don't know. They are wonderful. 00:39:38 Speaker 3: You sure got some manners. That's the one thing I do like about women. When we socialize, right, we got some manners, don't we? 00:39:43 Speaker 2: When we socialized right. 00:39:45 Speaker 3: When we socialized right. Natalie dropping F-bombs all over the place. 00:39:48 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Natalie. Natalie's talking about, I'm about to go get drunk. I was like, oh, Natalie. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: And all her swagger. I was like, look at all this swagger. I just want to say one thing for Natalie, okay? This is what I want to say. 00:39:59 Speaker 2: Let's go. U-U-U-C-L-A-U-U-C-L-A-5-5-5. Let's go. Let's go. U. U. I'll let you have it. But a hell of a run for UCLA. 00:40:16 Speaker 1: You all are the defending champions in women's college basketball. 00:40:19 Speaker 2: I didn't hear you. We what? You have a piece of the W championship. Okay, and then say what? Yes, you are the defending champions. What are we doing in football? Say what? And y'all undefeated in football. Right now, UCLA is in. 00:40:30 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on the rest of LA to figure out y'all undefeated in football, but they'll get there. 00:40:33 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 00:40:34 Speaker 3: Take the shots all you want to. Take the shots all you want to. We got the artillery, baby. 00:40:37 Speaker 2: We got the hardware. We don't want to hear about it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, you'll get there. You sitting in my city being disrespectful. Go get her. I'm going to show you where her shop is. Find her. Find her, y'all. Now I know it was you that tried to break in my studio. It was you. It was you. I know it. You're going to see a video of me. I know. Carried a kind of thing. 00:41:00 Speaker 1: She wouldn't even, you know, because you don't want your hair messed up. You wouldn't even wear a mask. 00:41:04 Speaker 2: Or a hoodie. No, no, it would be me. You would just be out there just glammed up. With some high heels going. I'm like, I can't get in. What is that? Ah, it's such a problem. Of course that would be you. You know, seriously, congratulations to the Valkyries. I mean, two years. Two years. 00:41:18 Speaker 3: And they are at the top of every list. Franchises are looking and thinking, how'd they do it? 00:41:24 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:41:24 Speaker 3: And by the way, no need to hate. Just be like, how'd y'all do it? Like, give me the blueprint. Show me how it was done. I want all these new teams that are coming out, the Houston Comets, the soon-to-be Detroit team, the soon-to-be Philly team. 00:41:38 Speaker 2: Even the Toronto, even the Toronto Temple. 00:41:40 Speaker 3: I feel like they did a good job too for their debut as well. Like there's so much to be learned and all that is going to do is ultimately build a better league that will bring more people, more attention, more prize money for these women who deserve it. 00:41:55 Speaker 2: And they did. They just did. 00:41:56 Speaker 3: They played with so much love. And now, you know, the best part of this is that Grand theft, Carrie. The best part of this is that Jamel is out of the prediction business. 00:42:05 Speaker 1: That is the best part, that they officially retired me. But I know me. I can't resist sometimes a bad prediction. So just the NFL season is still going. 00:42:14 Speaker 2: You know, we got some. I'm sure I will step out there again and. 00:42:18 Speaker 1: And be loud and raw. But for now, I am retired. The Valkyries again. You got it on the spirit of Barry Bonds and every phenomenal athlete and rapper on the spirit of Rapper Fote, on the spirit of DJ Quick. What's my favorite word? Y'all got it. Y'all absolutely got it. 00:42:41 Speaker 2: Anyway, all right. Well, Carrie, that is a wrap for this WNBA season. Man. What are we going to do? what is we going to do? We do have plenty of other stuff. Is there anything to talk about? Is there anything to talk about? 00:42:50 Speaker 3: It is. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: And you know, there's always things in the news, always things, something happening. 00:42:55 Speaker 2: We won't, we didn't get to

it. 00:42:56 Speaker 1: We probably won't get to it on this show, but we're going to have to circle back and talk about the Sparks. And yes, as Peter pointed out, women's college basketball is starting up. So we know there's going to be some stuff there, but we didn't, You know, the Sparks, man, like they made a curious move that had the internet wondering. 00:43:13 Speaker 2: What is going on there. You talking about blueprints? 00:43:15 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what is the blueprint that the Sparks are building for? As they have hit me up 92 times about season tickets and I've been. 00:43:21 Speaker 3: Like, hmm. We are going to, we are going to talk about the Sparks, but we're going to go from the inception of the Sparks to when I think they had decided that Most of these, when you own with the NBA team, they have all decided this is the women's, the WNBA teams are no longer write-offs. They're no longer tax write-offs. They are now something to be invested in. And it feels like the Sparks may or may not have gotten that memo. And we will talk about that. 00:43:46 Speaker 2: We're not going to do it today. They're up for sale, I believe, too. Yeah, we're going to do a. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: Deep dive into that and get into the particulars because that fan base deserves that. So we will talk about that. But As we speak today on this Monday, tomorrow is voting. We got to vote tomorrow. Tomorrow's election day. We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to talk about some shenanigans that have been happening. And just reminding y'all, y'all need to vote. The shenanigans are obviously happening in Michigan. That's where that's Jamel's home state. She's going to break all that down. But in the meantime, we'll take a quick break. 00:44:18 Speaker 2: Like, subscribe. Play Grin and Funny. Jamel and Keri, back in a moment. 00:44:32 Speaker 1: So as you mentioned before the break, Carrie, we do have a very, every election is important. And I hope people understand that voting is not a one-time thing. It's a lifetime thing. Because these rights that we want to protect, these rights that we want, is that that requires a lifetime commitment. 00:44:46 Speaker 2: It's not just about one thing. And I'm not saying voting is the only thing. But it is. 00:44:50 Speaker 1: Certainly a powerful tool in which we can use as a lever to get other things done. 00:44:55 Speaker 2: But you mentioned Michigan, my home state. 00:44:58 Speaker 1: There is a hell of a I would say it's kind of neck and neck between James Tallarico and Ken Paxton in Texas, that race, that race for Senate and in Michigan. They're neck and neck in terms of being the most prominent races that people know about. And certainly if you you know, one thing I'm going to be excited about when this election is done. I'm tired of being traumatized by all these political as watching sports because they are insane. And so in Detroit we have, or in Michigan, excuse me, we have Abdul

El-Sayed running against Mike Rogers. And crazy situation with Haley Stevens, who was his primary opponent, and she lost. I'm sure she wasn't happy about it. She was in her feelings about it, clearly. And now she has decided to essentially pull a John Fetterman and is now endorsing Mike Rogers as senator in this race. 00:45:54 Speaker 2: It's an egregious, egregious betrayal. 00:45:59 Speaker 1: And boy, I mean, when I tell you they are bringing all the smoke on Haley Stevens online and in every corner and certainly in all the prominent Democratic circles, it's just like, I cannot believe, regardless of what you think of what your political affiliation is, but you don't do this just because you lost the race. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: Like, you don't do this. 00:46:22 Speaker 1: And so, It's really disappointing to see that she essentially decided to turn on her own party. I'm sure you saw it. Did you see the interview that she did on CNN with Anderson Cooper? 00:46:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was uncomfortable. She was out there crazy. 00:46:33 Speaker 3: She said Abdul El-Said is not nice. 00:46:36 Speaker 2: So that's why she didn't like him. I'm like, I'm sorry, what? In short. 00:46:41 Speaker 1: If you listed a bunch of reasons that you said, I don't like this policy, I don't like that he says this. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: But even if you didn't, it's, you know, they're. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: He was like, let me get this straight. So let me get this straight. I also am curious about, I'm not even curious about it. I wonder if our voters are sophisticated enough to recognize the duplicity of her using her, whatever her, I don't know, what do you call it? Maybe her goodwill within the Black community. I don't know if she has this, she feels like she has this relationship, but she's using it to, she's using it To essentially bring Mike Rogers in, who is a Trump yes man for all intent and purpose, and say, I like him. Hopefully you can as well. 00:47:28 Speaker 1: And to show up with him at a black church in Detroit, one of the most, one of the biggest black churches in Detroit, Perfecting Church, which is pastored by Marvin Winans of the Winans family. 00:47:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:47:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:42 Speaker 2: So much to unpack there. 00:47:43 Speaker 3: And I just felt like it was unfair and she didn't have any valid reasons. And then you're going to run up on all these network televisions and talk to people about your reasonings as to why and not have any valid reasons as to why, but sounding other than bitter. 00:47:57 Speaker 2: And so that's a distraction. By the way, folks, all of this is a distraction. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: All of these shenanigans that are happening at the last minute, specifically even in Alaska, the two Dan Sullivans and the. 00:48:08 Speaker 2: Department of Justice has. 00:48:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Department of Justice filed a lawsuit suggesting that the second Dan Sullivan, if in fact it affects that race and they

lose. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: That, that's it. They're just going to say they don't want that. Yeah, they're going to say it doesn't count. They're not going to certify it. They're not going to certify it. 00:48:25 Speaker 3: But the judge today said that's just not there's no there is no legal basis to not certify that election. And that is because this is an old tactic. If you didn't know, it happened in Miami some years ago. You can put people do it on the left and the right. 00:48:41 Speaker 2: This is this is. 00:48:41 Speaker 3: A literally bipartisan tactic. You can always try to. make the ballot feel uncomfortable for the voter. 00:48:49 Speaker 2: Or confusing, right? 00:48:50 Speaker 3: Confusing for the voter. They try to stuff, they stack it. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 00:48:55 Speaker 3: They stack the ballot with different names because they don't want you to really know who's who. And that's what they did in Alaska. And they've done it before in other places and in other races. It's something they've done. It's not even illegal. So I don't know why this was such a big, huge brouhaha. But it also makes me understand that they feel the average voter doesn't know. 00:49:13 Speaker 2: And guess what? We probably don't. But you're like, but guess what? It's the truth. It's probably true because I'm looking at the ballot in California. 00:49:21 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I don't know nothing about these measures. And I'm doing the research. 00:49:24 Speaker 2: It's full homework. 00:49:25 Speaker 3: Oh, no. You said it's a lifetime decision. It is a lifetime decision. But you've got to be just as invested. Like, you are invested in stocks. Like, you're invested in your bank account. 00:49:34 Speaker 2: Like, you're invested in the lyrics of Jay-Z. Yes. You have to be just as invested. That sounds like a personal moment. 00:49:41 Speaker 1: Listen, I, on, I think it was, yeah, Sunday morning, you know, Ian and I, we got our ballots out. Because, by the way, filling out your ballot with your partner is sexy. So we got our ballots out. We discussed the various things, informed each other, like, hey, it was a race. One of the candidates, he knew a little more intimately than I did, one of the very smaller races. I think it was a judgeship maybe. And he knew a little bit more about that. So he told me his intel. I shared with him some intel. So, you know, we go back and forth. We have our phones. We're looking up stuff to make sure. Hey, this is how we feel. I also read all the voter guides. A lot of them, I should say, I read the Black voter guide. I read the progressive voter guides. 00:50:21 Speaker 2: I read them all. 00:50:22 Speaker 3: But if you want to have time for that, what else do you suggest? Because folks ain't got time. 00:50:25 Speaker 2: No, I think you need to make time. Mom, what do you think I should do? 00:50:28 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think you need to make time. So this is one of those things where— Look at her.

She wants y'all to work. 00:50:32 Speaker 2: No, I do. 00:50:33 Speaker 1: And listen, after that, I felt as if I took a midterm. Like back in college. 00:50:38 Speaker 2: It is. I mean— It is. Appropriately named, right? And so it's supposed to feel like that. 00:50:44 Speaker 1: Of course, to me, but when I fill out my ballot, I start with all the things I do know. OK, I know how I'm going to vote for governor. I know I'm going to vote for this. I know I'm going to vote for that. I'm very comfortable with this measure. 00:50:53 Speaker 2: I know that. 00:50:53 Speaker 1: So all the things you do know and then break down the things maybe you don't know as much. 00:50:59 Speaker 2: And with California, I'm with you. 00:51:00 Speaker 1: And it's interesting when it comes to the judgeships that are appointed, how they do it. They just say, hey, Carrie Champion, should she be appointed? 00:51:09 Speaker 2: Yes or no? 00:51:10 Speaker 1: You're not running against anybody. 00:51:12 Speaker 2: It's just, okay, should she continue in this role? Yes or no? And it's like, well, darn, okay. Do I know Judge Pena? No, I don't. Let me find out. 00:51:20 Speaker 1: Let me find out how have they been, what are some of the decisions they've been a part of? 00:51:24 Speaker 2: What are some of the dissents? All those kinds of things. 00:51:27 Speaker 1: So yes, it is meant to be a process, but don't let that drain you and convince you it's not worth it. Because frankly, a lot of these political leaders on both sides, they rely on your apathy. 00:51:40 Speaker 2: They rely on low bandwidth. 00:51:43 Speaker 1: They are preying on your short attention span, your low bandwidth, and your ability to just say, you know what, I don't have time for this. That keeps the wrong people in power because you basically told them that they have nothing to answer to. Whenever you give, it's human nature, you give a human being nothing to answer to, they're going to behave in a way They're going to behave just like that, that there's no accountability. 00:52:08 Speaker 3: There's also voter guides, you guys. You can go to the Googles. The Googles will help you. The Googles will help you. I don't know if you heard of them. And there are voter guides out there. Whatever state you're living in, you can simply type in, I'm looking to vote for whatever. 00:52:21 Speaker 2: And I'm sure there will be, there's too many, there's so much information. That's the problem. There's too much information out there. But you guys can find it. It really is. It doesn't take that much. The way that you research a concert, an outfit, some bundles. 00:52:33 Speaker 3: Your nail shop. The way that you do that, a vacation, you can do the same for voting. I will say this. I want to make this very, very super clear since I know that you have a stake in this Michigan race. I don't know if whatever your party is, I don't know if you are, not you per se, Jamel, but those who are listening to us, whether you

vote left or right, I think you really truly need to understand that the decisions you are making today are going to be what your children and your children's children have to deal with. You said it by it's a lifetime, but it really is important. I can't stress it enough. And I know people are kind of dismissive about it. And But I just need y'all to be so invested. Like you are invested in things that have nothing to do with it. Like the gossip on the Internet, people fighting and trending and being canceled. 00:53:20 Speaker 2: On the Internet. 00:53:21 Speaker 3: All of that is a distraction. Jamel, what Jamel's makeup is and what my makeup is, is a distraction. 00:53:28 Speaker 2: None of that matters. It doesn't. It doesn't matter. 00:53:31 Speaker 1: Be as concerned with my makeup. Be as concerned with your ballot as you are with my makeup. 00:53:35 Speaker 2: How about that? Just redirect. Thank you. You make me look great today. I appreciate that. 00:53:41 Speaker 1: I'm glad you appreciate that because some people clearly don't. 00:53:45 Speaker 3: I think you look beautiful and you're not bleaching your skin. 00:53:48 Speaker 1: I am not bleaching my skin. Man, I tell you, light skin problems. 00:53:52 Speaker 2: Why do they. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: Jemele, are you stealing money from the government? 00:53:57 Speaker 2: Are you working? I wish, because, man, there's some people getting paid. 00:54:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I'm just trying to think of the things that you could be doing other than bleaching your skin. 00:54:05 Speaker 2: I'm like, is there something else that you're doing? I don't know. 00:54:07 Speaker 1: You know, this is the thing, Carrie. As my friend, you know this about me and other people. 00:54:13 Speaker 2: Maybe they pick it up from listening to us on this pod. 00:54:16 Speaker 1: Carrie, as Carrie knows, and as anybody who knows me will tell you, I am truly lazy about my own business. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: Skincare with all... I ain't even. 00:54:25 Speaker 1: I don't have it in me to bleach my skin because I'm too lazy. I wash my face. That's why I leave it. And put on some moisturizer. That's the most I'm doing. 00:54:35 Speaker 3: She's the most low-maintenance friend that I have. So that's why it's so funny that people think you're taking time to do something else. 00:54:40 Speaker 1: Like. 00:54:41 Speaker 2: You like to get up, take a shower, brush my teeth, wash my face. I'm worn out. Just basic maintenance wears me out. 00:54:46 Speaker 1: So the idea of doing extra things, if I get a zit, it's just going to have to live until it dies. I'm not doing anything extra. I'm just not. I might pick some hair, some chin hairs every now and again. 00:55:00 Speaker 2: Uh-oh. That'll be that. TMI. TMI. A chin hair? You don't get chin hairs? Nope. You don't get chin hairs? 00:55:08 Speaker 3: Nope. 00:55:08 Speaker 2: I lasered them. I laser my entire face. Oh, you laser them. I'm the one. Yeah, I laser it. I'm the one doing the maintenance. I'm doing the maintenance. I'm not beaching my skin, but I'm doing the maintenance. Oh, my God. You laser them? Mike Coscarelli, how often do you get chin hairs? Coscarelli, how often do you get chin hairs? Peter, how often do... Peter, I have no hair on his head. He's going to get everybody's hair. 00:55:27 Speaker 1: Coscarelli, Coscarelli say every day. Every day he gets chin hairs. 00:55:32 Speaker 3: We love you guys so much for listening to Flagrant and Funny. 00:55:36 Speaker 2: Go vote, go vote, go vote. We'll be back again on Wednesday. Talk to y'all then. Flagrant and Funny is an iHeart Women's Sports production. Producers are Michael Coscarelli and Buffy Gorilla. Our editor is Michael Coscarelli. Our executive producer is Jessie Katz. And this show is hosted by us, Jamel Hill and Gary Champion.