บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Breakfast with David & Will - April 30th 2025

become immune to the whole thing. 00:02:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't. You never get separate, discrete text bills on you on your phone bill, do you. 00:02:36 Speaker 1: But if you were to go to a company and say I want to send out twenty million texts, it. 00:02:40 Speaker 2: Would be probably would be that many, wouldn't it, yea, it would be that many. Amazing the logistics behind it. Really excited about talking to Richard Harris was spoken in a number of times. It's just the world's best bloke. Hum and Craig Chalon, isn't it just like Providence is a good word. Isn't that like an example of providence? If you're a religious person, you'd say divine providence that when those boys got stuck in the cave, was there anyone in the world who was an expert at both underwater cave diving and anesthesia. As it turns out, yes there was, and he's right here in Adelaide. Like, what a unique skill set. It's like being able to juggle and speak Flemish. 00:03:25 Speaker 1: Like it's so random, And they're the two schools required to save a whole bunch of children's lives. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing is I I wonder if fifty that story happened fifty years ago, does the message get to Richard Harris? Does anyone find him? You contact him in time? 00:03:41 Speaker 2: I know, it's amazing, isn't you think about the ease with which you can find the answer to anything these days? And for all the complaints about the Internet and social media and the digital age, the Internet is just the best thing ever, isn't it. 00:03:56 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. But the idea that any other point human history, that the amount of labor that went into finding out anything, Like I was talking to my father about the and you would have got a bit of this too. In fact, you had have got plenty of this the early days of journalism. You're so, when did that person? When were they born? We'll call up the library. Yeah, yeah, I reckon. 00:04:19 Speaker 2: When I started at the Tires in nineteen ninety two, I think we probably had fourteen or maybe twenty people working in the library, and there were. 00:04:31 Speaker 1: Clipping files of everything. 00:04:32 Speaker 2: So you say you were doing an article about David Granger, you'd go up to the I'm just thinking when the Tiers was on King William Street above what is now the am Z building. 00:04:46 Speaker 1: I think they're up on the tenth floor, So go up to the tenth floor. 00:04:50 Speaker 2: And it was always like library is always nice, peaceful, quiet place, and you go and say, oh, you know, hi, Shelley. One of the runs is called Shelley. I'm doing a I'm doing a piece about Dave Granger. He's appearing in court. Can I please have the file? And there'd be a big folder. There might be two folders. There might be one Granger football career and then Granger post football career, and every article that had ever been written about him, and every photograph, and there were bromides in. 00:05:18 Speaker 1: Those days, they were all marked up. 00:05:21 Speaker 2: There were photographs that had black chalk marks around them because they'd been used as a deep etch, which is where the text folds around. 00:05:31 Speaker 1: An image. 00:05:33 Speaker 2: You'd get the photographs and on the back it would say taken to Alberton on Dune the third, nineteen seventy nine or whatever, and you'd sign in for them, because it was vitally important. Used to get in so much trouble if you didn't take things like if a physical copy got lost, yeah, it was lost for all time. Even when I went to Canberra in ninety six, they had a little library there. 00:05:58 Speaker 1: It's amazing to think now literally anyone's sitting right now can get the answer to ninety nine zero point nine percent of anything. Yeah, yeah, by typing into your fine I did think of you. There's a good meme doing of the rounds at the moment about why gen X people are so angry all the time and miss oh, no, I think you're angry all the time. But I did think of you, and it said it was something to the effect that because this is the generation that bought records and then had to replace them with cassettes and then have to replace them with CDs, and then they had to replace them with iPods, and now you're telling them they have to pay for a subscription to go and listen to music. And I thought that, I think that sums up your experience with the last thirty years quite neatly. 00:06:41 Speaker 2: And the worst thing, too, is a lot of us is you know, luckily I never got rid of my record collection, but there's a lot of people who late in life go, you know what, I'm going to get back into buying records. And now if you buy the NEWAR sixty dollars each, but it's a very expensive hobbie these days. I like there was a good pocket cartoon I saw of a very intense chap, you know, in a sort of futuristic looking lundering with a sort of Barcelona chair, and this is thousands of dollars worth of high fire equipment and all his shelves filled with all of his records in alphabetical order. He's wearing a black skivvy and he was talking to one of his friends and he says, the thing that attracts me of vinyl is the cost and the inconvenience. 00:07:21 Speaker 1: Seven minutes after six we had to take a break. 00:07:23 Speaker 4: We'll jump into the news headlines neck David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast. 00:07:30 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes after six. Let's jump at the news headlines on this Wednesday morning. As the Trump tarat fallout continues, China's put its hand up for more ossie apples and fresh meat in what is a positive sign for apple growers and avatoires in Australia. Especially good news for drought stricken farmers were the reports that mutton prices are already up at many Southern livestock markets. Experts have told The Weekly Time several restaurant chains in China and talks to switch from US beef to Australian, Canadian and South American beef. Meanwhile, the US President says he he will be

taking to talking to Australia as the fallout from tariff's continues. He's smucking in fact today we'll have some audio this a little bit later. One hundred days in office today, What a whirl wind hundred days it's been. He has been asked significantly whether he will be speaking to the Australian government about trade. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: Here's what he said, Yeah, that our trade they are calling and I will be talking to him. 00:08:24 Speaker 1: They are calling and I will be talking to them. Hasn't spoken to him, has he? No? Not since the big broad based tariff was put on. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, so that's right, because he he did. He had a conversation with him then, didn't he because he held that press common I think he the conversation just before, Yeah, where he was confident that we were going to get an exambit. 00:08:44 Speaker 1: That's right. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: Did you see that Australian wine experts to China are now back up to the same level they were pre COVID A billion dollars? 00:08:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense. 00:08:53 Speaker 2: One billion dollars. That's the impact of tariff, isn't it. 00:08:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:08:56 Speaker 2: Apparently they only buy the good stuff too. They're not They're not buying cooler bar mozelle. Well, there's a title a place for that. 00:09:06 Speaker 1: ACME is introducing new rules to ensure communities and emergency services are kept up to date when there's a mag'er outage. Telcos will now be required to inform customers when more than one thousand services are down in regional areas, or two hundred and fifty in the more remote parts of the country. Tech expert Trevor longs as the rules are especially important when it comes to first responders. 00:09:24 Speaker 5: Triple zero is the biggest problem that came out of the office outage. We've found that there were hundreds of people who literally couldn't call triple zero. And the triple zero network is meant to work no matter how your network's working. 00:09:37 Speaker 1: A University of Melbourne study has looked at attitudes towards AI around the world and found that just thirty percent of ossies believe the benefits outweigh the risks. More than forty eight thousand people were surveyed across forty seven countries, but Australia also ranked the lowest when it came to interest in learning. More About half of US use AI on a regular basis, but only thirty six percent trusted newscorpts. As unions are vowing to pursue pay rises and cut to cuts to working hours where companies gained greater productivity from the adoption of AI. 00:10:07 Speaker 2: Jim and Golden Grave just texted in even prior to you having that news item, Will saying hey, lads have just started studying again. How good is chat GPC? Unbelievable? 00:10:16 Speaker 1: It's an amazing source of Jim finding information. You need to cross check and ver it, fight though, Jim, because yeah, sometimes it's not quite what it purports to be. No, but in ninety percent of cases it's just an unbelievable resource. A case of extreme speed on the low and autheast right at Highbury yesterday afternoon, there was a Harley clock doing one hundred and nineteen and a sixty zone. How old you reckon them up? 00:10:41 Speaker 2: The rider was, well, I don't know. I'm going to go midlife crisis sort of age forty seven, fifty five, Yeah, right, Okay, several offenses the fifty five dro old's been charged with will be summons to front court at a later date. 00:10:56 Speaker 1: Seriously, what a loser? 00:11:00 Speaker 3: What? 00:11:00 Speaker 2: What? 00:11:00 Speaker 1: What? What possesses you to do? 00:11:02 Speaker 2: I can understand you want to go on some back road in the country, you know, flying through the hills, even though that comes with huge risks, but I can get the sort of you know, Peter Fonder, Dennis Hopper sort of vibe of that, but in a sixty zone like that's got a pathetic look at me quality about it, as we are completely Do you hate it when you pull up next to one of those big motorbikes and it's going the kids are like what they all's at. I don't know how they get allowed to be roadworthy. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: It is. 00:11:36 Speaker 2: I mean, red beads will scoff at this because they love it. 00:11:38 Speaker 1: But to those people that aren't a redhead, the whole idea of artificially making your vehicles sound louder, Like, if you've got a huge engine that naturally sounds loud, that's one thing. But when you you know, augment the muffler and do stuff that try and makes it sound as alloud and aggressive as possible. I just like we can't get better around that. 00:12:00 Speaker 2: I had this really embarrassing period with the van down a little dinger where the middle pipe on the exhaust went. The middle pipes, the bit that connects the big fat bit, the thin bit down the back. That's my scientific description of the middle pipe. Dead set the thing. It sounded like a cessna like, it was so loud. And there's a few lovable hippies. He lived at our part of old and one day my late mother in law was there and we were about to go down the beach with the kids, and I started the car and she was just standing there shaking her head and laughing. But this hippie hippie neighbor pass and she just goes, it's not even funny. Because my daughter's boyfriend is really handy. He said, why don't we try to get an old tin sweet corn. If we can clamp that onto the middle. 00:12:47 Speaker 1: Pipes, can't hurt. 00:12:50 Speaker 2: Didn't work, It didn't work, but yeah, in the end, I went into the old Inger industrial village and paid a guy one hundred bucks and brought him a steak, cheese and bacon pie from the Whole Grown Bakery. And you set up a cashi and rebucks holding that for you in no time. But he wanted that pie. You specified that pie? 00:13:06 Speaker 1: How good's all Dinger do? He had great moments down there all the time. Ten point eight degrees outside of the city. At the moment, it's pretty cool today heading

for a top of twenty one that relatively speaking, is a pretty cool maximum Tomorrow twenty one and sunny today will be dry as well. For the record twenty three in Sunnay on Friday, then that warm weekend twenty five on Saturday, twenty six on Sunday, and twenty seven on Monday. Tom Ren's in the five Toble a breakfast studio with us as we turn our attention to sport to make room for Reno's augustineamit'su issue having a stock clearance start. It's on now at Nailsworth and Morson Lakes. Morning. 00:13:38 Speaker 6: You're ready in morning, Wilm Morning, David. Where to start, fellas there is so much happening at the moment, Perhaps we'll go with the AFL. Look the Crows, they've got me chinge up at the tribunal today. They desperately need something to go their way because Nick Murray is going to be out for up to six weeks, which is a huge blow for their defense. 00:13:54 Speaker 1: And Mitch Hinge. 00:13:55 Speaker 6: You know, I think it's given what happened at the tribunal last night, I think it's almost impossible for Mitchins to get off here. 00:14:03 Speaker 7: Now? 00:14:04 Speaker 1: Was that tackle so very true? 00:14:07 Speaker 6: This is the market that's been set. 00:14:08 Speaker 2: Now. 00:14:08 Speaker 6: If you're running down from behind and you don't take in inverted comm as a duty of care, So help him break the fall, or roll him in the tackle, or release his arm so that he can break his fall, You're gone. It's all outcome based. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: As Eddie said last night, and footy classified. He had one third of a second to perform four things that some AFL lawyer what he could do. 00:14:29 Speaker 6: Absolutely, but that's where it's at now, So that's the market. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: We are way closer to running from behind, touching someone on the back and yelling tag than well. 00:14:39 Speaker 6: Luke Parker sent there the tweet last night said if you want to come Thursday night, well you can come and watch his play touch football. He's played three hundred games, one of the toughest players. I mean, he's clearly a teammate and incensed. 00:14:52 Speaker 1: But I wonder whether the tipping points going to come because for a long time it's felt like the AFL on these particular issues has treated the aim like a potential exhibit in a courtroom trial. At some point in time, the needle needs to flip back the other way and they need to start treating it like a sport. 00:15:10 Speaker 2: Ye. 00:15:11 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know when that day is going to be. It feels like they keep anticipating this reckoning non concussions coming at some point in time. Now, maybe that needs to come sooner rather than later for the better of the game at the moment, because you can't keep treating it like, well, what's this going to look like if we're on the stand. 00:15:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's stopped. 00:15:29 Speaker 6: It's a sport and you know every time supporting accidents happened exactly right, yeah, exactly. 00:15:36 Speaker 2: It's not the only sport. 00:15:37 Speaker 1: Is this stuff to that hinge and Murray? 00:15:41 Speaker 2: It's done because when Murray came back was around three. 00:15:44 Speaker 1: He's such important suddenly ten times better down there. Just balancing out competes in the areas. Great. Just so the hinge that the chair of one's is up tonight as well, is it? Are they kind of similar? 00:15:54 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:15:55 Speaker 6: I feel like if one gets off, they both had and they're playing against it, and they're playing against it potentially, So yeah, it's it's significant. It's not the only sport without controversy at the moment. Max Purcell's just received an eighteen month ban for taking an intravenous strip. Now there's nothing illegal in it, but he took more than the legal amount, so he gets a month band. So he got an eighty month band. And that's got John Milman, who's a commentator, I've worked with him. He's basically said, where's the consistency? Yannick sand who's an world number one. He gets three months between majors. Max Purcell, who's a relative nobody in the tennis world compared to Annix Sinner, even though he's one in doubles Grand Slam, he gets three months. So eighteen months versus three months. 00:16:38 Speaker 1: So that's outrageous. 00:16:39 Speaker 6: So it's got people saying, you know, where's the consistency. So you know, you'll let the big shot off, but you'll. 00:16:47 Speaker 1: Smash you come down a ton of bricks from the guy that and what to check out the stadium. So he wasn't taking a legal drug. 00:16:53 Speaker 6: No, it was just an intravenous strip and too much what above the legal limit? And I think so he reported, you know, he was handcuffed basically and had to had to come out. So yeah, he's John Millman. He's furious, and I think he's not alone. I think there's a lot of people in the tennis world saying where's the consistency. So there's a lot going on at the moment sporting wise, plenty of controversy. And Arsenal have just lost in the Champions League one Neil, but they've got a second leg to come. 00:17:20 Speaker 1: That was at home. 00:17:21 Speaker 6: I was at home unfortunately, had their chances that they should have should have drawn, probably should have won. 00:17:26 Speaker 2: A lot of upset fans at the Arkabar are, including my son, and he's there with all his mates. 00:17:30 Speaker 1: Berrickon for Arsenal. 00:17:31 Speaker 2: Oh there's next week still. I got up here last night morning left. I said, go Paris, go psg A jim mine why he said why? I said, because they're not English. 00:17:44 Speaker 1: Sorry, Arsenal fans. Good on, you're ready, tax boys. 00:17:50 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five, double a breakfast. 00:17:54 Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes to seven. Jake Robins on deck this morning. We'll be checking in with her, covering the big local stories from where they happened before seven o'clock, after seven hour wrap of the morning

stories, including a look at federal politics. Trump's first one hundred days in office that he's celebrating over there in the arrival of some new elephants today he heard the almost completed at Minado Zoo. We'll talk about that a little bit later. 00:18:18 Speaker 2: Well, there's a good text on the text line about surely this Harley guy has his motor bike crushed. I actually reckon. There's an argument that these drongos, these much o men who must be sadly lacking downstairs and need to compensate for their perceived sort of lack of masculinity by driving machines that allowed and go fast, imperiling everybody else's using their raids. I reckon, say, Pole should not only crush their vehicles, they should have them standing there watching their vehicles be crushed, and give you, guys in TV Land and US for the livestream the footage bit. 00:18:58 Speaker 1: Of public shaming. So sagabye to your car, sagabye to your Harley. 00:19:05 Speaker 2: Be great. 00:19:06 Speaker 1: What's the threshold at which you start doing that? 00:19:10 Speaker 2: I reckon one hundred and nineteen and sixty first defense, Look, yeah, I'd happy to. 00:19:14 Speaker 1: Drop it back a few cars from that point, Like I reckon, I reckon one hundred and sixty zone, Yeah, going forty k's over the speed limit. 00:19:22 Speaker 2: Yep. I would argue there are times when you are overtaking. So you're overtaking a truck that's doing ninety five, and you know, you pull out and you've got good visibility, but then you see a car that's flying towards you, coming over a hill or something, and you might go, all right, I'm really going to drop the clutch and go for it, so you might get up one hundred and fifteen. Not ideal, but it happens. There's no rational explanation for doing double the speed on it in suburbia other than you're an idiot. 00:19:59 Speaker 1: The really, though, is there's no appetite to do anything like this, as much as you and I and everyone listening thinks it's probably a good idea because it would have to be enforced by the same mechanism that doesn't see fit to cancel licenses all that often, because well then what does that do to the poor people? How do they get from it? But how do they get to work for it? Is not very successfully? Yeah, which is not sure what's anyone else's problem, But that's the way in which its interpreted. But I absolutely all for it. I think it's a terrific idea. 00:20:25 Speaker 2: It was Johnny Normanville. Good on your John, He said this too. Your mention of Assessan the day made me realize his speed was beyond Assessner's takeoff speed. 00:20:32 Speaker 1: Is that true? Wow? 00:20:34 Speaker 2: De cesterns do the lesson one hundred and nine. 00:20:36 Speaker 1: Aim, I was not aware of that. I don't know. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: Someone here says I noticed that one of the betting agencies has markets on the individual seats across the country. We need Dave's election MAULTI. 00:20:50 Speaker 1: Can you pick all what one hundred and fifty one? So I think they take Maltis anymore? Now they don't, I'm because mate. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: And we came up with a Malti at the two thousand one election and we absolutely cleaned up, except I didn't get on in time. 00:21:06 Speaker 1: So two of us, me. 00:21:07 Speaker 2: And this girl Kathy Lopari, we designed it ourselves because we were coordinating the election coverage in Sydney at the time, so we were getting good intel from both the parties about how they were tracking the thing. With political multis, a multi follows logic in the world of politics doesn't follow logic in sport. You know, you might go, oh yeah and last weekend, Oh, just to bump it up a bit, I'll put Geelong beating Carton in because they're definitely you know, there's no way Cartony going to beat you along. Can't and beats along. That's why the betting agencies are rolling in cash. But with politics. So two thousand and one, the September eleven election, you go, all right, this is going to be this massive sense of inertia, so you can safely say that the Libs are going to hold. In that case, it was like Paramatta Lindsey, which is Penrith in western Sydney. Now those seats are so comparable because they're all solid, you know, lower and middle class suburban electorates. If the libshole Paramatta, they're definitely holding Lindsay, they're definitely holding. Was it Fowler anyway? I can't remember all the names, but you could put a whole bunch of seats together. They're all in that sort of. 00:22:21 Speaker 1: They're not discrete events. 00:22:22 Speaker 2: No they're not. That's the trend, Yeah, that's the trend. And then you could throw in a couple of dead set SERTs for the center. One of the other ones that election was Pauline Hanson to win, I think, and it got up to paying. 00:22:39 Speaker 1: I think it was something. 00:22:41 Speaker 2: Staggering like eighty to one wow, and we put, like I think everyone. 00:22:47 Speaker 1: Put fifty bucks on it. It's not four thousand dollars. Something similarly does happen in sports betting when there are things that similarly aren't considered discrete events that they do allow multi betting on where you say, you know, if X has the most possessions and X has the most goals and this team wins, you won't quite get the payout you'd think if you calculated it yourself because factors in. Well, if they are the best two players, it's probably more likely than that team won. So it does discount the odds as you go through it. But the thing that's interesting about political betting, and i'd actually know what the legalities of this, I don't think there are already. If you're a betting company, you know you're in a mug's game, and sometimes, and very rarely, but sometimes you're the mug. I always find those election odds to be pretty razor sharp because there's thousands of people that have access to private polling, thousands. There's no way to police that. But the parties are running private polling all the time. Yeah,

totally. So this is one of the rare occasion where the punters have got sometimes way more insight than the betting company. So you often find that. But when it comes to politics, being markets can be very predictive. If you see something weird this week with a seat that comes in a lot, just know there is a large cohort of people out there that know way better than anyone else. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: Well, there's a really good fre economics type story years ago after September eleven where the CIA had secretly come up with a plan to go to some Indian exotic market and open a book on when and where the next terror attacks were going to be. And the psychology behind it was that there is nothing more compelling in human behavior than a dead sert and it was one of those things at the moment became public the medium. No, it is scandalous. What a perverse idea? 00:24:45 Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense though. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know if you could get on the dark web and find out that you had Madrid at ten to one and suddenly that came into four to one. 00:24:58 Speaker 1: He go, why is that? It was a really clever idea. I thought that is clever. We just had a story in news. Matt pan tell us Donald Trump has joked that he that he'd like to be the pope. Hope I'd like to be pop. That would be my number one chose No, I don't know, I have no preference. I must say. We have a. 00:25:21 Speaker 2: Cardinal that happens to be out. 00:25:22 Speaker 1: Of a place called New York is very good, So we'll see what happens. I don't think he would like to be pope. But the reason it's obviously being raised conclave is May the seventh, when all the cardinals will meet to elect the Pope. I bring it up because we had a textas short time go from a net I think on the police Homecare text and ask the question is it must be some roomor on social media the white smike? Have we got the white smoke? Do we have a new pope? Well, they haven't even started the meeting, the process. Do they write the name on the card and get sent into the furnace that starts? Well he did. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: He did tell the Atlantic yesterday that he's only joking about running for a third term. 00:25:57 Speaker 1: Well that's that's heartening. 00:25:59 Speaker 2: Maybe it's paperday. You know, there's no limit there, shifted his focus. He really just finds new and exotic ways to offend so many people on any given day, didn't he there were grieving Catholics around the world his days after the Pope's dies. 00:26:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to be the pope. 00:26:19 Speaker 2: What about his kissing my ass? Coming all these world leaders they're all kissing my ass. 00:26:24 Speaker 1: I haven't heard of any deals being struck yet and what about Canada? Yeah, we'll be talking about that a little bit later. The unbackable favorite, speaking of the odds, Pierre Poulaver Polyev? Should I say Polyev? He he was the Conservative leader, was in a two horse race at one point a twenty he was the opposition was a twenty to one underdog in a. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: Two horse race. Yep, and he lost. There could well be parallels between might happened in Canada yesterday? Happens well Australia interesting on Saturday? Yeah, Polyev? 00:27:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, most certainly there's a Trump backlash around the world anything that looks slightly like it. And Pierre Polyev, we should make the point this is the bloke that conservatives around the world was saying. This is not some hopeless politician who stuffed up an insurmountable lead. This is the bloke that was being talked about in conservative circles as effectively the Peter malanowskis of the international right. But this guy was seen as he was as good as his public speaking was exceptional. He was a terrific communicator, his policies resonated. The problem was he had a bloke on the same ideological side as him to his south talking about overtaking his country. 00:27:41 Speaker 2: So reminder that there's a lot of sane people out there who don't look at things like, you know, we're going to get Greenland. I don't know how, but we're going to get it. Or maybe Canada should become the fifty first Ape, or maybe the Gulf of Mexico should be called the Gulf of America. A lot of people look at all that stuff and go, this guy is bonkersmas yep, And they've always just gone to. 00:28:03 Speaker 1: The poles a lot. In America's opinion poll, Donald Trump's favorability at forty one percent at the moment, lower than last time after one hundred days. Let's check traffic Lenn Andrew's real estate experts in commercial residential property Management Lynandrews dot Com. 00:28:17 Speaker 4: That are you, David Penberthy and Will Goodings Six to line five, double a breakfast. 00:28:23 Speaker 2: Seven. 00:28:23 Speaker 1: Let's talk aout the weather. The Mark Anilac at the Bureau of Meteorology Joints this morning. 00:28:27 Speaker 8: You Mark, Good morning guys. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: How much rain do we get in the end? Do we get anything in West Terrace? 00:28:33 Speaker 8: Oh, we've had a little bit, not a huge amount more like a couple of spots really, but we did see a couple of big falls with storms that cross parts of the state. I think Milllinson had ten millimeters, a couple of other places that had of the order of eight to ten millimeters, but locally it was probably less than five millimeters, and most of that was in the hills, but it wasn't too much on the planes at all. Those showers have now cleared and we're looking at it mostly sunny day to day. Twenty degrees forecast tomorrow, mostly sunny twenty one this stage. The weekend's looking pretty warm, actually, twenty three on Friday, twenty five on Saturday, and mostly sunny twenty six on Sunday. 00:29:13 Speaker 1: Good on you, Mark, thank you for that. Let's say to say pols when he comes to Liam Bennett is on the line. Liam, there's been a robbery at a servo in Sebden. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning gents. Just before ten pm on

Tuesday night, patrols were called to a service station on Port Road after reports that a man had threatened a staff member before stealing a chill and leaving the area on foot. Now patrols attended and called in the area with police dog Chaos called into conduct a search and after a lengthy search, Chaos track to an industrial area on Smith Street where she located the stolen and unopened till and she also located the suspect nearby on George Street where he was arrested. A twenty four year old man from Torransville was charged with robbery. He was refused police bail and he'll appear in the Adelaide Magistrates Court. 00:30:01 Speaker 2: Liam Also there was also in the Inner West there was a suspicious car fire at Torrensville. 00:30:07 Speaker 3: Yeah just after midnight, police were called to Stephens Street in Torrensville after reports that a car was on fire in a driveway. Now patrols arrived to find the car fully engulfed in flames and they took swift action to contain the fire with their extinguishers until firefighters arrived on scene. Now the fire was extinguished, however, unfortunately the vehicle was extensively damaged. Our crime scene investigators has tended the scene and the initial investigation indicates that the fire was in fact deliberately lit and anyone who is a witness or who has information about this fire is asked to contact Crime Stoppers online or via one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero. 00:30:46 Speaker 1: Thank you liam S. Thanks to Alliam Bennett from say file, we received a few good texts from motorcyclist riders of contexts to make a point about not in all instances, but in many instances, the loud exhausts on bikes are part of us effective safety feature. They raise awareness about the whereabouts of bikes on on roads and help motorists know where they are. In fact, I think it was Rob says aftermarket exhausts are often put on sports bikes because euromission standards restrict them so much and make them so quiet that people don't see them. He then goes on to make a joke about bikes on Ali's might be over compensated for something. So there's obviously a little bit in a motorcycle enthusiast rivalry there, but that a few people have made that point about the importance of actually having bikes be loud. 00:31:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it was a very good point, very comical point. And now speaking of Champagne comedy, as always, our great friend Rob firing on all cylinders. Apparently the Donald is giving out hats MCGA, you make Catholicism great again, We're going to put tariffs on the Buddhists, the Hindus and rod did hims do Dave, you've confirmed my suspicions. You really are racist. You constantly demean anything English. Come on, you made on Cornish Cornwall should su see though it's his name, F Morton Nance. 00:32:14 Speaker 1: F Morton Nance, the. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: Great Cornish Nationalist, published several Cornish language dictionaries. Cornwall should be a standalone country. 00:32:24 Speaker

1: They the rest of England treats them almost like they are a foreign country. And it's only what two and a half hours away. It's ludicrous. All right, Let's head to check in with Jade Robbers out the road for us this morning. Jay, good morning to you, Good morning fellas. 00:32:37 Speaker 9: This morning we're talking how to avoid a sixteen hundred dollar fine at the polls. Now you can almost smell that democracy snag. Just three more sleeps until the big day, Dave. In fact, if you managed to get rid of your twenty thousand vampire deterrent democracy snags. 00:32:51 Speaker 2: Yet, no, we've got We've still got a few in the in the fridge ready to go. Jay. But I had a bit of a cook up at home with them last Friday, the you know the one you tasted when we did it together. You had version one that was a bit too vigorously seasoned, so we've pulled back on it a little bit for version two, so it's more balanced now. 00:33:10 Speaker 1: The democracy snag delicious. 00:33:12 Speaker 9: I'm happy to hear that. And we still need the white bread with the tomato sauce. 00:33:17 Speaker 3: Bo we are. 00:33:17 Speaker 9: We're all gearing up to stand in line at the polling booths on Saturday, but today we're busting the most common questions asked the lead up to the day. This is very Australian. Can I be drunk when casting my vote? Well, best don't be, But there are no laws prohibiting you from casting your vote on election day if you are intoxicated. Can I use my phone in the voting booth? Well, if you need to quickly remind yourself who your candidate is, or to watch the video of Albanzi falling off the stage just one more time. There are no laws restricting voters from making phone calls or using Google inside the voting booth. Can I take my dog to vote? The answer is yes. Even Anthony Alberzi took his dog Toto to cast his vote on election day in two. But double check because if your polling place is at a school that wouldn't usually allow dogs at the premises, you might have to leave Fido at the front gate. Am I allowed to film and take photos in the polling booth? 00:34:12 Speaker 10: The answer is no. 00:34:14 Speaker 9: You are not allowed to film or take photos of staff, other votos, voters, other people's votes, or the electoral role and certified lists. But technically it does mean that taking a photo of your ballot paper is allowed. If you must post that on Instagram and capture that moment in history, technically you are allowed. Is there a dress code for voting? Well, there's no mandatory dress code for election day, but you do have to be careful if you plan on showing off who you're voting for. So campaigning is prohibited inside the polling place and within six meters of the entrance. So if a voter wears a pin shirt or a hat with a campaign slogan in the polling place when casting their vote and then they just leave, that's okay. But if that same person is seen talking about material or gesturing towards it, boom fine. 00:35:04 Speaker 1: Time. 00:35:05 Speaker 9: A person found guilty of canvassing for votes can cop a penalty or five penalty units or a sixteen hundred and fifty dollars fine. And lastly, what would make my vote invalid? Well, if you put your name initials or you sign the ballot paper, your vote cannot be counted. And anything that identifies a person or makes them that would make the vote invalid. Now another one. As we're told all the time when we walk in, voters are always reminded to number all the boxes above the line in order for their ballot to be included in the tally. 00:35:38 Speaker 11: So there is. 00:35:39 Speaker 9: Our most commonly asked questions ahead of polling day. If you haven't cast your vote early, then good luck for Saturday. 00:35:46 Speaker 1: Everyone good Only you, Jane. I'll tell you what you're driving past polling places One at Hendon, I drove past a lot. It is amazing how often it is stacked full of people at the moment for early voting. Forty five point one percent of Australians in twenty twenty two who voted on the day. Are we going to get down as low as forty percent this time? I think so? Hey, who's gone to pre pole thinking they're going to save time and has ended up. 00:36:09 Speaker 2: Being there more than an hour. Good question, I reckon heaps of people have been stuck. Mum and Dad voted at Colonel Like Gardens and they said it was absolutely chocolate block. I mentioned littl Ding yesterday their pre pole down there in Kingston slash Mayo, the one near Drake's that was absolutely teeming with people. Might be quiet on Saturday. Are you a Saturday voter? Will? 00:36:34 Speaker 1: I won't be this time because calling footy and we're doing the show, it's gonna be a bit busy. So usually I have been. It's hard to read much into what that tells us about the luckily outcome. But for the record, last year, last year, last election twenty twenty two, pre polling broke fifty point nine to forty nine point one in favor of Labor. Now, obviously that was significantly better result for the L ANDP than what the overall two party preferred result was last time. So pre polls ten had favored. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: The Liberals because it's older people. 00:37:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people that want to avoid the rush and standing up in the heat as it might well be on Saturday twenty five degrees on the day those on polling day it broke fifty three point seven to forty six point three in favor of labors. To give you some point of reference. Minute to seven five double A News is on the way. We'll take you through a rap of all the morning's big stories near David Penberthy and Will Goodings. Six to nine five double A Breakfast. Hey, minutes after seven, Good morning Turkey. You're joining us for the very first time on this Wednesday, the thirtieth of April. The sun is up. It's not going to get super warm today, as you just heard a top of twenty. The real warp comes on the weekend Election Day and then a Sunday there after Good Day having a

barbecue. We have the five double A Breakfast Democracy Sausage. We can register at the website five double a dot com dot au. Streams of people have been doing that over the course of the last forty eight hours. As we endeavor to make it a little bit easier for you to raise money for your community group, school over the local initiative is that you're raising money for on election day with the democratically designed democracy sausage JB Beef. It is the sausage of the people. 00:38:10 Speaker 2: We love the JB Beef. The have been wonderful partners on this mad exercise with the recipe source by you, our listeners. 00:38:18 Speaker 1: We've got a few text from people saying, can you guys, and I don't think we quite have the tech know how to do this. Put up like an interactive map of where the Democracy Sausage will be. I don't think we do that. What we can do though, and later in the week I'll read out all the places that it will be featured at and you can go along and buy a sausage there and support schools developed new facilities or new play areas and so forth, and in the process try the five double A breakfast Democracy sausage, the sausage that will define this federal election. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: Set you up for your Saturday. Exactly right, I think Lucy said. 00:38:55 Speaker 1: She just said to me she's going to put up a written list as well on our social media channel, so you'll be able to see it on the five double A on Facebook or indeed on Twitter or Instagram. At least he's going to put up on Instagram. Magnificent work. All right, let's get into the new I think I must have said it funny because she's laughing at me. 00:39:15 Speaker 2: What about Simon just texted him saying he's just got a brand new work phone with a brand new number through Telstra, and he's already had five texts from the Trumpets. 00:39:22 Speaker 1: They don't waste time, do they. Quick out of the block, Clive, We've just received reports someone's brought a new phone. 00:39:29 Speaker 2: Quick spam him. 00:39:30 Speaker 1: Deploy the fon. That's right, fun, You don't what to do? All right, let's get into the news headlines. Donald Trump has acknowledged that Australia and Anthony albit Easy trying to get a phone call with him ahead of a discussion of regarding tariff still placed on Australian exports into the United States. He's made that comment whilst boorting a flight to head to Michigan to celebrate he's one hundred days in office. Have a listen a lot of our Yeah, up, they are calling. 00:40:05 Speaker 2: And I will be talking to him. 00:40:07 Speaker 1: So that calling and we will be talking. But clearly no discussions have been had and it doesn't sound like any special treatment as being afforded Australia in this whole, this whole situation. As I mentioned, he's celebrating he's one hundred days of his second term. Getting on board a plane. You'd hear lots of Trump over the course of the day, trumphantly talking about the achievements of the first hundred days offers, I think, perhaps telling ly, as he board at Air Force one today, he signed an executive order easing tariffs on car manufacturers because we have tariffs on tariffs off like wax on wax off in the karate kid at the moment, and so the police. 00:40:48 Speaker 2: Realized that, you know, a whole bunch of companies have come in and said, well, it's not that simple. It's not quite simple that we might, you know, simile of the cars here, but the parts come from other countries. And imagine being like in the finance department of like Toyota at the moment, trying to work all of this. 00:41:04 Speaker 1: Absolutely impossible, and with it being a constantly changing feast. Even if you are a company that says, well, we're ready to make an investment for where we want to be building stuff for the next forty years, what are you doing on the basis of what the policy was last week? 00:41:16 Speaker 2: Don't you think this too? The thing is like the thing that I've always liked about the Republican Party is the small government part of it. Completely the no red tape part of it, Like how does the red. 00:41:26 Speaker 1: Tape look on implementing this? 00:41:28 Speaker 2: It's staggering, Like how many man ours and woman ours are being lost by companies that are you sitting there and going right, Well, what's he said? 00:41:36 Speaker 1: Now? 00:41:38 Speaker 2: They wouldn't be doing any R and D type stuff or anything. That would just be the whole thing would be how do we keep the show on the road. 00:41:44 Speaker 1: It is an extraordinary situation at the moment, but you're going to be here. It talked about as a raging succe X. I imagine in the next few hours. I'll tell you what is going to be a great success. Is that that is going to be the elephant herd with that's been brought together at Minato. Two more coming from tron Gazoo as we speak. I think they're in the truck at the moment. They're going to arrive just after nine o'clock this morning. Pac boone and tang Mo twenty five and thirty one years of old, respect of age respectively. They are on the journey of a lifetime thirteen hundred k's which they'll end up at Minato Safari Park. They'll join Permi and Burma, who are already there have listen to zoo keeper Test Stevens talking about this exciting new arrival. 00:42:26 Speaker 12: We're really excited to meet the girls and just get to know their personalities and see how all of the girls coming together, how all their personalities mesh, and actually seeing the herd starting to really come together super exciting. 00:42:37 Speaker 1: There'll be the four females, then Putromas the male will come over from from Perth a little bit later. 00:42:44 Speaker 2: I wont our elephants say night because if you were like a good good setting for at Manato near the Murring, if you were going away for a week big trip with some friends on a houseboat or something like that, you know, when your friends arrive and they make the trip up, text you

I'll be there in ten minutes they arrive. The elephants will be saying that to each other when they're all together. They do for a long time. 00:43:07 Speaker 1: I hope they do, because and Burma haven't really been getting on like ouse on Fire dramas. They went there and they. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: Went, whoh buddy, Burma, you're kidding me. 00:43:19 Speaker 1: Of all the elephants there all at least there be other ones there, weren't there? Yeah, no. 00:43:26 Speaker 2: I was trying to have a dirt bath the other day and old Burma just stood next to me, just rabiting on incessantly about I had a big palm frond earlier. That's it's interesting, Burma for shut up. 00:43:41 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll get along eventually. I wonderf any of our listeners elephants do when they don't get along. Oh, they there's a bit of push and shove, a bit argie BARGI yeah, bit of how's your father, a bit of niggle. This is intriguing. I wonder if any of our listeners are captured by this. Because this has been in place for a long long time. Experienced driver recognitions status will finish today in South Australia. It's still going to continue in New South Wales, w and Queensland, but it finishes today in South Australia. So what does this mean for the last twenty years. If you've had a license and you're from Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, are Stonia, Hong Kong, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, poll In South Korea, Serbia, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa or Taiwan, we've recognized your license here that ends today. Oh really, so you will now have to apply for a different status category as of today if you have been able to drive in South Australia as a result of having a license in one of those countries. So what if anyone who's arrived in Australia the last twenty years from one of those places, maybe even listening right now, that's been able to drive that, we'll have to go and go and do some paperwork on there. On the license we have today, you. 00:44:47 Speaker 2: Have to get a local license or would you be able to drive on an international driver's license? 00:44:51 Speaker 1: It says a different status category, so presumably they will be covered in some way, but you're not just automatically able to drive like you wear previously. Was it Sweden that in the sixties changed direction? Yeah, well side of the road they were, they were left, they went right right? Yeah, apparently it was better on look. Could you imagine they did that here? 00:45:13 Speaker 2: It takes old to wrap your head around it. Have you driven over I haven't. No, I've driven in France on their motorways. My god. The speed limits one hundred and thirty and most people treat that as a non binding suggestion. It is insane kind of kind of fun though. 00:45:31 Speaker 1: Everyone tells me that's driven on the wrong side, and we might have listeners have got stories eight double two three double a double. 00:45:36 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:45:36 Speaker 1: The biggest issue you have is whenever you go to a roundabout. 00:45:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, roundabouts. At first, the thing is you often look the wrong way, so you'll be going in, so you've got to turn. You've got to turn right instead of left. So you're going into a round it, you've got to turn right instead of left, but you still have the tendency to look left the way you do in Australia when you. 00:45:59 Speaker 1: Should be looking right. I think I'll explained that properly. 00:46:03 Speaker 2: I reckon. 00:46:03 Speaker 1: The scariest part. 00:46:05 Speaker 2: The good thing about the motorways is there's always other cars around, so I sort of figure as long as I as long as I'm sitting behind another car, or I can see another car in front of me or a truck in front of me and know I'm on the right side of the road. But sometimes you end up in a position where you go all I've got to take this exit, so you take this exit, and you looping all the way around. I can't see any cart I really hope I'm going the right way and then you pop out back onto the motorway and you're like, oh, thank God. But the reassurance of having other vehicles there, you know, yes, you're a bit of a guide chugging along on the right side of the road, but you know, gets the blood pressure up, keeps your focus mentally. 00:46:48 Speaker 1: Safe for to do a word every day. I guess we're going to check traffic and come back. We'll talk sport and get to some of your texts as well. Come and experience the difference today at the brand new Jarvis to it a Brighton Roads summon in Park. 00:47:00 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast twenty. 00:47:05 Speaker 1: One after seven. We'll talk sport in just a moment. Stack a text THO I've just come in the last ten minutes stead of look at some of those on the police. The text lines it before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: There's one here who's just here? We go Sue in Golden Grove. I'm glad you asked this question, Sue, because there might be other people in a similar position. Good morning, Will, Dave and team. I'm currently in hospital waiting for tests, etc. I'm scheduled to have my gall bladder removed on Saturday. Does this get me out of voting? Seriously? What should I do? Sue? It does? That is a totally valid excuse for not voting. All you have to do is probably provide a bit of correspondence to the AEC when the fine comes in, and they'll accept that it means. 00:47:49 Speaker 1: You you're also eligible for a postal vote. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could post it in. Did they send the postal vote? They do. 00:47:55 Speaker 1: You have to apply and they send it out to you. But having sue, I've left too late to get a postal and you're going to ask that. 00:48:01 Speaker 2: But if the medical episodes come about after the cutoff date for the postal votes, then it's a case as RR sort of scenario, isn't it where you know sues. 00:48:11 Speaker 1: Yes, you won't get fine. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: No, you

won't get fine. You won't get fine. And if you do ring us, we'll do it as breaking at eight. You can come on, we'll turn you on. 00:48:18 Speaker 1: Course you get a fine, suit, we'll pay it for you. 00:48:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we will. Is the fines bugger all seventy. 00:48:25 Speaker 1: Bucks or something as far as fines go. I hope they didn't raise it to seventy thousand dollars three months jail. 00:48:33 Speaker 2: Yes, well we regret the error. Yeah, and we'd like to apologize to Sue. Don't worry, so you're not going to jail and more importantly, get well soon. Yes, absolutely, won't hear from Darren. People still are using the term Trump arrangement syndrome, aren't they? He says, you too likely still believe Trump wants Canada? He keeps saying he does one hundred percent. You both have Trump arrangement syndrome. What part of deal's tariffs except drill with Trump? Do you not understand? 00:49:02 Speaker 1: Okay, well, the power don't understand is what deal's been struck? What's the deal? And here's the other part I don't understand. Donald Trump has said, well, tariffs are raising so much money, he can reduce income tax. Okay, Well that would suggest there's a degree of permanency to the tariffs, because you can't replace income tax unless the tariffs their long term. So there's no deal to be made now. If what he's saying is that that tariffs are a tool with which to strike deals, well I'd ask two things. One what becomes of income tax cuts? And two if this was all about reducing trade barriers. In fact, this is all about free trade. Why not have signed the Transpecific Partnership in twenty seventeen that would have already eliminated tariffs with a country like Vietnam? 00:49:47 Speaker 2: Is there another technical point to be made that if you love Trump because you're a good sort of nationalist right winger and you want to see the spread of his ideology worldwide, so far he seems to be doing a really good job reviving left wing governments that were steering down the barrel of defeat. 00:50:03 Speaker 1: One of the best conservative voices in the world has been lost to politics. He's really impressive, that guy. He would have been a really good cans. He can thank Donald Trump. This is why, this is why we should draw us to existing s. Donald Trump is now no longer a right The Marga movement is not right wing in any other in any way beyond it not liking woke stuff in terms of economic policy. In fact, in terms of economic policy, it's bearing more resemblance to China wielding tariffs, cutting back on free trade like this is why the people on the right and conservatives around the world condemn all this stuff. Ronald Reagan will be turning in exactly that they're different. 00:50:44 Speaker 2: And if you want to see what really good economic turnarounds look like, look at Reagan's first term. 00:50:50 Speaker 1: Well, that is a classic old school republic and the Briber wing style approach to managing the economy. That is still the case everywhere else in the world except the United States. Anyway, should we talk sport. Let's talk sport all right, last not the sport show, Rowan Campo came on to talk about Campo come on to talk about the Crows Carlton game this weekend, of course is a tough one for Campo. Emotionally, you're a little bit tat on this one. I think I felt a bit torn reading this stat from Ben Jordan. He said, the Crows record on federal election days. In twenty twenty two, the Crow's lost a sint killed her by twenty one points on election day. In twenty nineteen the Crows lost to Brisbane by one point, and in twenty ten the Crows lost to Collingwood by three points the election day. Hudo, is it going to be broken this weekend? Here's Rowan Campos thill us. 00:51:42 Speaker 2: That loss has just dented my confidence. 00:51:46 Speaker 13: Well, it's not going to get any easier. Well, particularly with now Murray's out and what I saw with. 00:51:52 Speaker 1: Colonel and m mackaiah on the weekend they were. 00:51:54 Speaker 13: Back to their their best and what Carlton do and this is this is going to be the challenge this week. If we if a little bit of time on there, Carlton are playing this clearance pressure forward half game. 00:52:05 Speaker 2: Adelaide did the number one Ford half pressure team. 00:52:08 Speaker 13: And groundble so when it hits the ground, they've got that mosquado fleet so and Adelaide have just tape it off. In terms of now whether it's by design, had a bit of a look at him again. You know they're exiting out a D fifty more boundary and they're not so ripped you know ripple, so that slowed up a little bit around there. So if that pressure comes and the scoring dries up out of their defensive half and they're getting done from clearance, that just worries me. What are you trying to say, Well, it's not that we're no, it's just that's just. 00:52:39 Speaker 1: The reality of the game. You talk will we talk about the how and the what. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: It's just that's the reality of it. Just Kevi for Calvin, wouldn't he He said, we about the Crows. We worked for the Crows for a long long time. But he won a flake with Carlton he did. 00:52:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one. Well, his sons are obviously there now totally I think emotionally still got a lot invested in Adelaide. In the town. There's probably a. 00:53:02 Speaker 2: Lot of guys who worked in footy and played in footy who actually end up almost having a. 00:53:06 Speaker 1: Couple of class. Yeah you would, because. 00:53:08 Speaker 2: You've had you'd have an affinity to them. 00:53:11 Speaker 1: Almost famously. Aaron Phillips, Well, yeah, I think here it's out Australia. You know, it might be the only one that has a shared affinity for both the traders, but I think she genuinely probably is the only person that has a totally understandable split allegiance between the two clubs. Lucy's just looked this up. That's a good information from the Electoral Commission with regard

to not voting. So first defense is just a warning, okay, Second notice one hundred and twelve bucks. Third notice is one hundred and eighty five so it has gone up a bit. It's probably pegged to inflation. Isn't it. Yeah, but it's still very much the lower end. Yeah, as far as fines go. Well, if it's your first defense, so you're right, we shouldn't even get a warning frankly, and I don't think you will. Twenty eight after seven. 00:53:58 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Good Things six to line five double a breakfast twenty. 00:54:03 Speaker 1: Two minutes to eight breaking eight coming up after eight o'clock and then a little bit later in the morning. Doctor Richard Harris is going to join us. Friend of the program, The hero of the ty Cave Rescue will be He's opening the History Festival this year. We'll get it to chat to a little bit about that. Looking forward to doing that, lots of it. Is the most self deprecating guy. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: He's a very funny you know, you do something completely unprecedented is the most overused word. But that was like there is no precedent for what those blakes did, and you know him was sort of like shell and peas. Oh yeah, all in a day's work. 00:54:41 Speaker 1: No one's ever done before in history. There's some good advice still coming throughpers Sue and some information that I find interesting. Jody on the text line says, yes, the q e H. They set up a voting section near the emergency department. They also visited the wards and people who couldn't leave their beds were given the chance to vote. That's good. I mean Suit's case is different. She's going in on the weekend. As someone else said, who was it? It was one of our excellent regular text There. 00:55:07 Speaker 2: Any scrutinies there, So I was like that scene in The Departed after that being shot, which tried to sputter out his last words labor in the Lower House. 00:55:19 Speaker 1: Whispering at someone's the liberals in the Senate, one of our excellent regular texts. I can't find the text now made the point to the deadline for post fining is tonight, So Mike sturb time to go on out ahead of election election day. Thank you for all that excellent advice that did come through on zero before zero eight, thirteen ninety five. There was a bit of a bombshell yesterday in the opening day of the trial into Aaron Patterson, the mushroom cook killer, as she's been labeled or obviously that remains to be tested in court. The jury was impaneled. But before that, but as that happened, a whole heap of charges. Charges were withdrawn by prosecutors. They related to her ex husband, the accusation while she tried to kill her a strange husband, Simon Patterson on three occasions. Those charges have been withdrawn. The actual charges with regard to the fateful evening that claimed the lives of her former in laws Don and Gaiale Patterson, as well as gale sister Heather Wilkinson, they remain, so that's still the subject of the trial. But there was a bombshell that the events that predated that night were removed, which sets it up for a trial that has the whole world watching. As we mentioned yesterday, you can read about coverage of this in rural Victoria from the Washington Post in the United States. You can read about it on the BBC in the UK at the moment, or you could listen to the great coverage that Brooke grebt Craig has been giving it on the Mushroom Cook the Trial podcast. Brooke, good morning. 00:56:55 Speaker 14: To you morning, Thanks so much for having me not at all. 00:56:59 Speaker 2: Brook, Well, thanks for coming on. So walkers through what happened yesterday. Was there any explanation from the prosecution as to why those charges were dropped. 00:57:09 Speaker 14: No, there wasn't, and we can't speculate on that just because it's before the courts and there's been a jury that's been impaneled. So yeah, as I said, so yesterday fifteen people were on paneled to be on the jury. This consisted of ten men and five women. Out of that fifteen, some will be cut with only twelve jurors returning a verdict at the end. And as you mentioned, there was another development with miss Patterson's three attempted murder charges relating to her former husband, Simon Patterson. They were dropped. 00:57:40 Speaker 1: I guess the big The other big and not unanticipated development was that she did plague, not guilty, and she's been consistent upon that the whole time, hasn't. 00:57:49 Speaker 14: She broke Yes, that's correct. 00:57:52 Speaker 1: I was wondering if this was new information to you covering really closely. It was to me. And it's only a little tidbit. But the judge made a comment about what took place that night, saying the accused served individual beef Wellington's to her lunch guests. So just a little tidbit. They were individually made little pies as opposed to one big serving was there anything else we learned about the specifics yesterday that intrigued you. 00:58:15 Speaker 14: Well, that probably was the most intriguing really, So yeah, as you said, Justice still told the jury yesterday that she served individual beef Wellington's and subsequently the guest died from mushroom poisoning. So yeah, that was very intriguing. 00:58:30 Speaker 2: Has Aaron Patterson been at court for this, Yes. 00:58:35 Speaker 14: She was in court yesterday. So she was wearing a pink and white striped shirt. She had her long, straight hair out and it was kind of draping over her shoulder. So the jury did see. 00:58:47 Speaker 2: Her and was she did she display any emotion or anything. 00:58:52 Speaker 14: Look, it's a bit legally risky for us to discuss that at the moment, so I can't really relate on that. 00:58:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what do your view does this case to Hinge on? Is it as simple as knowing the difference between your mushrooms? 00:59:07 Speaker 14: Look, once again, I can't really speculate on that just because it's all before a jury. 00:59:12 Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, no, we get that

because you know blasting you want to do is Yeah, we don't have to miss or anything. Where's the actual court where it's being heard. 00:59:20 Speaker 14: Yeah, So it's been heard in Morewell at the Supreme Court sitting out with Troe Valley Law Courts. So it's about two hours away from Melbourne, CBD. So it's definitely in a regional area. 00:59:33 Speaker 2: The church is on the Traalgon side of Melbourne. Isn't it lay Heading Norse, Gippsland. 00:59:37 Speaker 14: Yes, that's correct, it's in the Gippsland region. 00:59:39 Speaker 2: So it's quite It's quite a small area, isn't it like it's like a big metropolis. 00:59:46 Speaker 14: Look, there's about fifteen thousand people that live in the town and obviously the case has garnered a huge media interest, so we're all kind of packed down here in our airbemb's and hotels is all reporting on it all. 01:00:00 Speaker 1: There must be there must be no rooms left to stay there at the moment. 01:00:04 Speaker 14: Yeah, they're all booked out, so yeah, good good for the town of them allwell and the businesses. 01:00:09 Speaker 1: Really is there international I mentioned I've been seeing it that this case being reported on internationally. Are there people from overseas that you've seen covering it at the trial? 01:00:19 Speaker 13: Yeah? 01:00:20 Speaker 14: There has been, and there's also been a few dockor makers as well, which is interesting. So we'll see what's to come. 01:00:26 Speaker 2: Well, Brook, I understand that you had to tiptoe around the legalities of it. It's probably going to go on for quite some time too, isn't it. You're going to be in their airbnb for a while. 01:00:36 Speaker 14: Yeah, so it's expected to run for five to six weeks. So we'll be saying down here the whole time, covering it all on our podcast, The Mushroom Cook. So that's where you can get all your information. 01:00:47 Speaker 2: And all the updates from Tell you what in your spare tilling you be able to write a Lonely Planet guide to more well, I think so definitely Yes. 01:00:56 Speaker 1: Good idea, Brook Brook, Thank you Brook. Grebt Craig. Who's that host at the podcasts you mentioned, The Mushroom Cook. What is one of the most read about, written about and anticipated trials anywhere in the world at the moment. There's something relatable, I guess about the process of. 01:01:12 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the whole lead up to it, and you know, the tensions and the community and her coming out of her house and shouting at people to go away and putting up signs, and the fact that she is estranged from her husband and his comments about it. Obviously, all that is now well and truly under in the. 01:01:36 Speaker 1: Vault, and I guess, as Brook was suggested, I. 01:01:40 Speaker 2: Think we've got too many listeners in more Well, which isn't a knock on Brook for being more excusive with their own If you, if you, if you're Brooke Greb at Craig covering the case, you don't want to think I'm on Adelaide Radio, I might

wing it a bit here and have a lash because the defense lawyers would be pouring over all the media your coverage because with cases like this, of course mistrials sometimes an avenue to protect your client. 01:02:08 Speaker 1: And part of the intrigue is how little we know. But the prosecution hasn't made the case yet we know what the overall allegation is. And now I mean just to learn that they were individually made beef Wellington was a development, but underscore we don't know whether if you ever made a man come from and no I haven't. I love pig beef Wellington, though I reckon it's one of them. I've never made it. 01:02:27 Speaker 2: I made of my made one was stunning, but it's incredibly hard to get it right. I think because it's a more a feat of engineering than cooking like, you've got to get the eye for the par cooked, then put it in the pastry with the mushroom. It's called duck sell. It's called dice, mushroom and everything. Then you've got to wrap it in spinach, and I think you've got to wrap it and prosueto in it as well. But the pastry has to be just so because it's so easy for it to turn into this yeah, gluggy mess. 01:02:54 Speaker 1: Hey, there's an amazing story in the world of food and it. 01:02:57 Speaker 2: Begs an interesting legal question. 01:03:00 Speaker 1: Can you plagiariys a recipe? 01:03:02 Speaker 15: So? 01:03:03 Speaker 2: Do you know about Tin Eats? Yeah, this is interesting this story Tin Eats is an absolute juggernaut. The woman who runs Tin Eats, Naggie Mahashi. She has put out I think three or four books from her blog Tin Eats, which has just got Colt status online. Her books worth thirty million dollars. Well, there's another food writer, Brooke Bellamy, who's got the sort of millennial market stitched up. She's a baker, she's got a book Baked with Brookie. Well, the Tin Eats lady, Nagi has sent a legal ladder to Penguin saying that at least Two of Brook's recipes, including the caramel slice, are ripped off from Tineat and Penguin are denying it all but the tin Eats Ladys go on hammer and tongs at it. You know the total. 01:03:58 Speaker 1: Value of their too, the they're books, both Brooks and Nagi's thirty million dollars million, So they're not They're not fighting over crumbs here are they? Your best place to comment on this? How hard would it be to prove plagiarism in a recipe because there are only so many, aren't there? 01:04:19 Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking last night, Like there are some dishes that are created and are synonymous with certain chefs, Like what's a good local example. Chong Liu he did that seven Dancers of the Ocean recipe, which was seven different types of South Australian seafood when he was at the grange at the Hilton. Or maybe that guy from tetsu Is Tetsu or Wakuda did that famous tea smoked ocean trout. I think it was where the chef themselves has invented a recipe and it's become their recipe. But most recipes are you I mean Elizabeth David, could she have been sued by the estate of you know, elies are acting and could a lies are acting have been sued by some French writer from the seventeenth century, like where does it stop and start? 01:05:17 Speaker 1: I reckon, it's probably more clear cut if this, if the body of what you've written is clearly been lifted, well this is a just a total copy and paste job. But if you're talking about the substance of the recipe, I can't imagine a court uphold that no interesting, even if it's pretty, even if it's frighteningly similar. Yeah, I wonder if I wonder if anyone uses any of any familiar with the book from which you know, from which the plagiarism was hued is alleged to if. 01:05:48 Speaker 2: I reckon, they made heaps of our listeners, but everyone will know big ten eat. 01:05:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know eight double two three double o double will jump on the text line zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. We're going to check traffic and come back with Borings to moment, come and experience the difference. Today the brand new jab is Tour to Brighton Roads, summon. 01:06:03 Speaker 4: In Park, David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast David and Will's democracy sausage. 01:06:13 Speaker 2: People are entitled to the sexual proclimitics. 01:06:17 Speaker 7: Let there be a thousand blossoms bloom. 01:06:20 Speaker 9: But I ain't spending any time because in the meantime, every three months a. 01:06:26 Speaker 2: Person was torn to pieces by a crocodile. 01:06:28 Speaker 1: And North Queen this is a sausage in Australia had to have. We told you we placed in Bob Katter with our democracy sausage. One of the great moments in it never not funny. It's never not funny. 01:06:43 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many times you hear it. 01:06:45 Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny. Then it was the first time. It's an enduring contribution to the political discourse in Australia. 01:06:52 Speaker 2: Yesterday one of the other great political contributions to Australia politics was Maulmninger. 01:06:57 Speaker 1: Absolutely, well we have we've got that in the Matt Abraham Yeah, yeah, you've got to listen close to to pick it up. But people, I was. 01:07:04 Speaker 2: Thinking yesterday when we talked about that. Mark old Rich, the Trumpet of Patriots candidate, he's done a reverseman Inger. He has where he's ended his candidacy, not at the start of the Campae for the end of the campaign, where it ended his candidacy, his. 01:07:23 Speaker 1: Membership yet come out the Democracy Sausage All possible things in Ajobi for their award winning farm to your table. Najobi delivers premium fresh beef and lamb ethically, locally, effortlessly Najobi dot com dot Au. You can. I've just had a chat with Lucy. Today's the last day. 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and then you raise money for whatever it is you want sausage. There's so many people, so many people are registering and doing precisely that. Like Henry, who's going to be running the barbecue at the Nord Primary school and election day morning? 01:08:09 Speaker 8: Henry, how are you guys? 01:08:11 Speaker 2: We're good thing, Henry. You got a lovely little primary school there in Nord. In fact, it was Norwood High where Albo did his sort of soft campaign launch last year. I was there covering it that day for The Australian. But how many expecting on Saturday. Mate. 01:08:29 Speaker 15: Well, the by election last year, I think we raised about two thousand dollars off the barbie, probably about six hundred snags. 01:08:38 Speaker 5: We cooked up. 01:08:39 Speaker 15: But we've cooked up some bacon and egg rolls that year. But the eggs are a bit too expensive this year, so we're just going to go with snags. 01:08:44 Speaker 1: That's good. 01:08:45 Speaker 15: And yeah, so we desperately need to replace some of the new early year's playgrounds. So that's that's mainly what we're fundraising for this year. 01:08:52 Speaker 1: Fantastic, get to. 01:08:54 Speaker 15: Norwood Primary, get behind Assos sizzle and yeah, we've got a great group of sparing volunteers who are getting behind it. Thanks, thanks for helping us out and thanks then a job too, because it's an amazing thing that you guys are doing. 01:09:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, not at all. 01:09:05 Speaker 2: Have you have you got your hands on the snags yet or do you know when you're picking them up? No? 01:09:09 Speaker 15: I meant to be picking him up on Friday, I think, which is actually school sports sports Day, so i'll duck in. Duck In has got that too, So yeah, we will have a cake school on Friday for the sports Day and then straight into the sausages on Saturday. Bisy a couple of days. 01:09:26 Speaker 2: Guys like you, mate, you're the heart and soular school community is. It's important that parents volunteer and get amongst it. So you're going to keep the keep it simple with the snags. Are you're doing onions as well? Just playing a plain white bread, sauce mustard. 01:09:38 Speaker 1: That's That's about the extent of it we've got. 01:09:41 Speaker 15: We've got some good good other local donations food land gear behind our from bankers, the light I get behind us really well, keep it simple. But we've got one of the dads on governing council is actually an X chef, so he's quite happily don't donate his time to chop up twenty five kiloads of onions. Oh wow, So thanks thanks Andrew and advance mate. 01:09:59 Speaker 1: That's it excellent, magnificent work. Henry. Will all the best on a big day. Hopefully you raised as much money as possible. 01:10:05 Speaker 15: All right, thanks again, guys, much appreciated. 01:10:07 Speaker 1: Love your work on Henry running the barbecue at the primary school. If you want to get along, as we've mentioned, there will be a list that will put up on social

media. I'll read it out on air as well. All the places that the job Beef David and Will democracy sausage were being cooked. You've still got today to head to the website five to play dot com dot Au to get a whole truckload of sausages coming your way. Remember, but we got twenty thousand of these to give away. Twenty thousand. It's a lot of sausages. So we've got still got a few more if you'd like to get them on the barbecue wherever you are. 01:10:38 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, well they fit in the back of the Highlucks. 01:10:41 Speaker 1: Would twenty thousand fit in the back of the Highlucks? How much do they weigh? Apparently not? It required a truck. 01:10:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's a ton it's a raw beef. Yeah. I wouldn't want to snap the axle carrying meat around. 01:10:58 Speaker 1: That would be unpleasant to say that he's five Double A news is covering up break You don't, surely. 01:11:02 Speaker 4: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to line five Double A Breakfast. 01:11:07 Speaker 1: Hey, minutes after breaking eight coming up in justin might We've got some great tasting Australia tickets to give away in the next half hour on the program Excellent. I'm going to check in with Jade Robren. I'm going to talk lemons, the cars and why the legislation aims at stopping them being sold. Looks like it's it's not going to exist for much longer. To bomb itself. It's a bomb itself. And then Richard Harris is going to join us after eight point thirty today we'll get to some more of your texts as well. I like it when we're lovingly referred to as knuckleheads by people of the text line. I thought that was excellent. 01:11:37 Speaker 2: I like though that Jeannette calls his knuckleheads, but clearly let's listen to the shape. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's a bit of that listen to on the radio. 01:11:47 Speaker 1: Jer Jeanette was calling us to educate us on political views of the world. He's a bit of reading material. That was fair. I got to chuckle out of that. It's a type and frank. 01:12:02 Speaker 2: Well, terrific news in the last twenty four hours after five years from hell, the Australian wine industry, by which we pretty much mean the South Australian wine industry, because let's face it, all the good wine largely comes from here, is now. 01:12:15 Speaker 1: Back to pre COVID levels. 01:12:17 Speaker 2: It's exports to China have topped the one billion dollar mark, meaning that there's been a complete turnaround from the outer devastation that was wrought by the taraf during the Morrison government. We've got Mitchell Taylor who is the chief winemaker and also I believe the third generation managing director. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mitchell at the excellent Taylor's Wine Winery in Claire. 01:12:43 Speaker 1: Was that right? Mitchell? 01:12:44 Speaker 2: Third generation? 01:12:45 Speaker 16: Yeah, third generation managing director of our beautiful family estate in the Clare Valley. And I'm also the chairman of the Clare Valley Wine Makers. So we've got a reputation for the great Reaislings but also the great Breads. Yeah, for sure, we do so well in South was he? 01:13:04 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, this is an amazing turnaround, isn't it. Can I just ask mitchellib are people sort of once bitten twice shy a bit in the industry still given the sort of volatility you know we hear about South China, Sea Taiwan, the relationship with the US. Are people just sort of making hay while the sunshines? Or do you think that there's a way of making this last again? 01:13:27 Speaker 16: No, we would look, we are a bit cautious because we were out three years in the wilderness and our industry was one of the major focuses to be blocked out of the market. Just wasn't a blanket tariff like that's currently happening in the US. So we are cautious and we're looking to diversify, particularly across all the Asian countries. So this is great news for the industry. We really need it. You know, great work was done by our trade minister and opening up our relationships in this area. 01:14:00 Speaker 1: I mean Don, yeah, Don Farrall. 01:14:03 Speaker 2: You know Don really well because he's got his own winery the godfather in Claire, hasn't he and he. 01:14:08 Speaker 16: Has, so it's it's a pretty good job. And yeah, Don John's you know, just behind the scenes, he's built those relationships and it's helped us when we've gone over into the market to start to rekindle our relationships with the people, the sub distributors and our importers that we had over three years ago. So I think the relationship part is so important in a market like China with. 01:14:37 Speaker 2: All the volatility with tariff's being thrown around like like like candy at the moment by Washington. Does it create new weird markets that wineries in Australia didn't necessarily know existed. 01:14:52 Speaker 16: Yeah, it does. On one other market that is growing in the recent export figures, of course, is Canada, and we're prather Kannaki. They're really under the pump from all is chaos and what they actually did, the biggest buyer in the world, the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, they actually threw off all the US wines off their shelves. So this has really helped South Australian wines in the market. Our depletions are starting to go up. But the only problem is there still is a lot of uncertainty. So everywhere everyone is trying to second guess where Trump's going. And it seems to change, you know, not you know, we used to say weekly, but there seems to be a new story coming out, you know, every twenty four hours. So this uncertainty makes it a bit hard for the planning and getting it. But look on the positive side that there are opportunities also trading within the other Asian countries. You know, people are looking looking to be with reliable trading partners, so that should be good for the Australian wine industry and also with the chaos of Trump, he actually while he hit US ten percent because I think he

confused our GST as being a tarot. But anyway, he's actually hit the European winemakers that go into the US market a lot harder than US. So there may be some opportunities there, but I think a lot has to happen with it all to settle down. 01:16:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just finally, Mitchell is the profile of the Chinese wine buy a still similar to pre COVID, where in China the demand is for the more expensive, high end lines. And is that helping you guys at a time when a lot of Australians are minding their pennies on account of cost increases. 01:16:55 Speaker 16: Yes, yes, while they're cautious, the gifting is still very important. We did these beautiful boxes for Chinese New Year with our Saint Andrew Sharras and they were a great success because there was a lot of pens up demand. They had a really brutal COVID in China, so when they had this opportunity to travel and be with family and friends, they love grabbing a gift of expensive and high quality red wine, particularly the reds that we make in the Clare Valley, the Sharazas and the Cabinet savignons were very very popular. 01:17:34 Speaker 2: Well, it's a good news story and one that's long overdue, given how tough our beloved wine mateers did it over the last few years. 01:17:42 Speaker 16: Yeah, we need a bit of a break. So it's very encouraging and we've got to now build on the good work and try to get some momentum back because everyone is still a little bit cautious in the Chinese market. But when nellie back to where we were three or four years ago in the in the export figures, excellent. 01:18:03 Speaker 2: Great to chat to you, Mitchell. Mitchell Taylor the chairman of the Claire Valley Wine Producers Association and also winemaker and MD of Taylor's Wine. Thanks for joining us for breaking it out. 01:18:13 Speaker 16: Thanks real thanks David. 01:18:16 Speaker 1: I was fascinating you mentioned Canada in the context of new ex book markets that have propped up. One of the I think a great shame of Pierre polierv losing the Canadian election was that part of the Canadian Conservative's election platform was to pursue this idea of Kansick that I'm a big fan of I think it makes a hell of a lot of sense. What'sick Canada, Australia, New Zealand the United Kingdom. It's a view that these four countries, with incredible our shared histories and values, should have a tighter bond where we have total free trade amongst our countries, we have total freedom of movement between our countries, and that we operate as a block effectively when it comes to foreign affairs. Because suddenly you're talking about three, at least of the world's biggest twenty economies. 01:19:02 Speaker 2: Likable Western democracy. 01:19:04 Speaker 1: And very similar views, we don't really depart on much at all. That should we should formalize that relationship and make it easy for people to move, work, our businesses to cooperate to The Canadian Liberals not support that, well, I don't think they necessarily don't

support it, but it was an official part of the Conservatives camp a policy list going an election, to say we're going to try to make this a reality. And I think it makes in the context of where the world's going at the moment, where the US used to sort of hold us all together in their absence or them going on more isolationist path I think it's a great policy. 01:19:35 Speaker 2: So the thing is that the Canadians are so understandably affronted by the way they've been traded by Trump that no self respecting Canadian is going to walk into their local equivalent to sip and save and say, can I buy a Napa Valley zinfandel. 01:19:47 Speaker 1: It's exactly right. It's like an active trees, exactly right. 01:19:50 Speaker 2: You know, you'd feel like you've sold out your country drinking a good Napa Valley cabinet or something like that. So you know, you see a bottle of Tailors or Penfolds or Darrenburg, there you go. As Aussie. 01:20:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like those guys, perfect sense. I like those Well you notice we mentioned that the old the veggie might ban from the cafe story the other week. Well that Mark Carney, the Prime Minister, he changed that instantly. We joked, this is not the time to be driving a wedge between Australia Canada exactly, and as much as we made a silly point of it, I think quite literally, that's what happened. And the operations of the Cane government they went, well, whoa, whoa, let's not be stupid about this. Yeah, And it was a little thing that told a really big story about where Canada sees itself in the world. 01:20:29 Speaker 2: You might have heard yesterday Frank Pangallo was on with Will's Dad on the morning show Graham Goodings yesterday talking about these new lemon laws that are designed to protect consumers. I think the figure now is something like three quarters of all secondhand cars are sold through Facebook, Marketplace or gum Tree. I spent two grand myself on a car that might have needed a little bit more work than I was led to believe. It sounds now though, like these laws are dead in the water. The labor government here is not prepared to support them on cost of living grounds. Frank Pangelo is less than impressed about that. Frank, good morning, please, good morning. 01:21:08 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this is fall I was. 01:21:11 Speaker 17: I was surprised because in talks I've had with a couple of minutes as they saw merit in it. But this is a disingenuous attitude, to be quite honest, from the premiere. Now backyards are flogging off lemons to unsuspecting young buyers. Struggling family single mums are going to be doing lapse of joy because the premier wants to keep the cost of buying unloadworthy bombs down. Now, that's not how it works, Pembo, because consumers buying cars privately should demand protection, and the premier should realize that this is all about road safety too, And it's a small cost to pay that can be absorbed in the vehicle's price anyway. But you know, in the meantime, in a cost

of living crisis, as you know, he refers to the fact that why he's opposing it, it's okay for him to left. Everybody's water bills, power bills haven't come down. You know, he's he's wasted tens of millions of dollars on green projects. I won't see the light of day. And I'm now told it's going to have to find a couple of hundred million dollars more to keep Wyla going, which I will say Pembo was going down the gurgle under his watch. So the state budget is about to be lobbed, so we can expect more charges to go up. And then there's the fields of dreams, of the Premier's dreams, the untold millions on footy in gold. So you know, I think he should lift and shift. 01:22:34 Speaker 1: He's not wrong when he says this will raise the price of secondhand cars, though, is he. 01:22:38 Speaker 17: Well, why should it? Well, you always well the price of a second hand bomb, what would you say? And to have a car that has sold it is roadworthy or one that's an absolute bomb and it's going to cost a consumer tens of thousands of dollars more to repair. Now, yesterday we did a test outside the Adelaide Railways. Sixty percent of the people that took part and that couldn't pick the bomb. In fact, sixty percent of them picked the bomb. And when we show them what the repair bill would be, it went close to twelve thousand dollars because the cars today are far more sophisticated than what they were previously. So this is all about road safety, PEMBO and consumer protection, not about keeping more bombs circulating in our community. 01:23:24 Speaker 2: What if you do want to buy a car that's just to fix a upper or something like that, would would there have been some sort of caveat for that saying, look, you know this car is not being sold as particularly roadworthy. 01:23:34 Speaker 17: Absolutely absolutely there is. And also if it's more greater than twenty five years old, because we know there are a lot of old cars out there that people want to buy and restore. Of course you're not going to sell that as a road worthy vehicle. It's not going to be registered anyway. But this is the people to protect people, young families, single mums looking for an suv to take the kids to school and go shopping. It's actually to protect them from being hit with bigger bills because somebody has sold them a lemon and there are a lot of back down. 01:24:06 Speaker 1: Frank, this is the government getting in the way that people could do this anyway off their own back. They could get the car test before they agree to buy, they could pay the cost before, and this is just this is just government inserting itself into all. 01:24:19 Speaker 17: Okay, But if you want to go and buy it, and then you decide I'm going to get an RAA check, it's going to cost you four hundred bucks. 01:24:25 Speaker 16: No, I don't want it. 01:24:27 Speaker 17: Well that's only a one off, right, What about the other buyers that come along. They can't afford the four hundred bucks for the test, they don't get the if. 01:24:36 Speaker 1: They can't afford, it's going to be built into the new price, now, isn't it by making it mandatory? 01:24:41 Speaker 17: Well it's if that's what the buyer wants to do. But in many cases, if you're going to sell a car, you're going to have to make sure it's roadworthy. I mean, well, what's the point of sending a card that's an absolute bomb. 01:24:52 Speaker 2: So what you're saying, Frank, is if to Will's you know, trademark free market point, it's the right of a car goes from five grand to fivey two hundred, and that he's passed on to the consumer, Will say be it, because the alternative is he might buy a car for five grand and ended up spending you know, another fifteen hundreds straight away because there. 01:25:18 Speaker 17: Or two or two or three or four thousand dollars. Now, I've constituents come to me since I introduced that bill who've been totally ripped off. And you know, I've had a dad that's called me about his son buying a car and wasn't aware of what he was getting. An eternally ill man who bought a full drive on a on an auction site and it came with no verification of the state of that vehicle, and then when he took it to a mechanic to get a service, he was told it was going to cost him seventeen thousand dollars in repairs. Well I got his I've got his money back. But you know many people out there aren't that fortunate. 01:26:02 Speaker 2: M Yeah, no, fair enough. Always good having you on, Frank, Frank Pangello Independent, MOC. So that just to wrap up though the bills, Dad, you're going to pull it. 01:26:10 Speaker 17: I'm going to pull it today. I'm not going to let it go to a vote because I think it's all about consumer protection here and road safety, and it happens in other states. I just can't believe it. Why this say has to be alone. And of course a lot of those bombs that can't be registered or made road worthy in New South Wales or Queensland or whatever actually coming over here and being sold here through auction places to people who don't know what they buy. You need to know what you're buying and you need to be protected. 01:26:44 Speaker 2: Frank pean Gello Independent, MSc, thanks for joining us this morning. 01:26:47 Speaker 1: All right, let's check traffic. Come and experience the difference today at the brand new Javastuyt of Brighton Road summon. 01:26:53 Speaker 4: In Park David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine fine double a breakfast. 01:26:59 Speaker 1: Twenty seven after we've got tickets to what's a great event, Tasting Australia's Sunday supper club. Taste Australia's Not Too Far Away, presented by a Journey Beyond Friday, the second Sunday, eleventh of May. Book your tickets now at Tasting Australia dot com dot a AU. We want to give this to someone who can cook, and given all the conjecture around plagiarism in the recipe space, we'll ask you what's something you can cook without a recipe? Something you can cook without a recipe that you just know like the back of

your hand. Eight double two three double double five will send you in a friend along to Tasting Australia. In the meantime, let's checking with Jade Robern, who's out on the road for us. 01:27:34 Speaker 2: Morning to you, Jade, good morning guys. I certainly am. 01:27:37 Speaker 9: I've hit the road and the eyes of the animal world are on where I am near Manato Zoo because our new elephants are arriving today. Pat Boone and tang Mo, the two girls. They set off on Tuesday morning on their thirteen one hundred k journey from Taronga Zoo and They're expected to arrive here at Manato Zoo at around ten am, so in a teeny tiny short while, which is so exciting. It's been a twenty two hour long trip. And if you're listening and driving on the freeway and see a whopping, big green crate on the back of a truck, that's them. Give them a toot a warm South Aussie welcome guys. 01:28:11 Speaker 11: This move. 01:28:12 Speaker 9: It's been about a year in the making. The pair they had to go undergo a year of crate training, so if you're live on the live stream, you'll see them there and it was great to see. When the time came to leave, both girls walk pretty casually. They walk themselves into the custom built travel crate, had their seat belts fastened and they hit the road. They won't be alone when they get here, Burma and Permit. They're already cooling Manato home. They've been settling into the park's brand new elephant habitat, which is a fourteen hectares of open space, big muddy watering holes, beautiful big gum trees. It's a custom built space for the herd to hang out, so the four of them will all get to know each other over the next couple of weeks. They'll slowly introduce them and then head out into their own open space, which is absolutely five star and guys Asian elephants. They are endangered in the wild, so Minato is building something really big here in time. This herd could play a really vital role in protecting the species for the future. And it's all happening right here in our great state. So gates open here at Manato Zoo at nine p thirty the guests of honor. They're expected about half an hour after that. There is a huge buzz here. It's a really exciting day. Zoo's essay. They're going to hold a press conference, so stay tuned to five double eight for all the latest with Graham and our awesome news team, because I'll bring you all the latest once these two ladies arrive in around two hours time. 01:29:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to It's gonna be some great pictures on the news tonight from six o'clock as well, coming up to eight thirty five Double A News in the way of Richard Harris shortly on the History Festival and the recipes you can cook without needing a recipe. We've got tasting Australia tickets we're giving away next. 01:29:55 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to Lne five double a breakfast. 01:30:00 Speaker 7: Twenty one minutes to night if you jump on the Facebook and YouTube live streamuls who we're joining the studio book Dr Richard Harris when we're talking about the History Month, History Festival that's coming up here in South Australia very very shortly. 01:30:11 Speaker 1: But first, speaking of great events that are happening here, Tasting Australia is not too far away. Friday the second to Sunday the eleventh of May. So what are we two days away from Tasting Australia. We've got some tickets to the Sunday Supper Club to give away. And given this morning's news conversation around the plagiarism that is being accused of existing in the world of recipe books online and in hard topics, we're asking you, what's something you can cook without even needing to consult the recipe? Katrina in my Land. 01:30:41 Speaker 18: Good morning, Good morning. The recipe I can cook at looking at a cookbook it's been passed down through generations is a mussaka. 01:30:53 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense and a good one. 01:30:56 Speaker 2: The way you've pronounced it was reassuring to you. 01:30:58 Speaker 1: It sounds like you know what you doing with you Katrina. 01:31:02 Speaker 18: Well, you try and follow the recipes from the Nornas and your others further up, and they don't write anything down. They just say you do a little bit of this and a little bit of that, so you just got to trust your instincts. 01:31:13 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Katrina. Let's go to Sherry and Salisbury Heights. 01:31:16 Speaker 5: Morning Cherry, good morning, how are you guys. 01:31:18 Speaker 1: Good Thanks Cherry. 01:31:20 Speaker 14: I can cook from scratch and it's delicious, the lamb curry, and you know it comes from my sister. 01:31:27 Speaker 19: In law death, so I don't want to be. 01:31:29 Speaker 5: Sued or anything. 01:31:33 Speaker 19: And I can also cook many many more, but that's the best one the land. 01:31:37 Speaker 1: That's excellent. 01:31:38 Speaker 11: Check it into you. 01:31:39 Speaker 19: You can put there on your website. 01:31:41 Speaker 1: That's a great good shout out for the sister too. Michelle and Collins would. 01:31:44 Speaker 19: Good morning, Good morning guys. I have always had a fascination with Spain and everything spanished and I can make a really delicious from scratch. 01:31:57 Speaker 2: Isn't fun, it's a fun thing to make. 01:32:01 Speaker 19: It is fun and it's a great thing to have when you've got people around, and it's just delicious if you cook it properly and build that flavor based from scraps and make sure he's getting all the right ingredients. And nothing better than a very tasty especially some nice drives Agria. 01:32:20 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this feels like the cruelest thing I've ever had to do. But getting you to choose between Michelle Sherry and Katrina's entrance for the Tasting Australias tickets, they were all, should we get rich to judge? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's so Richard, good morning. 01:32:35 Speaker 2: Good morning. 01:32:37 Speaker 10: I'm salivating. 01:32:39 Speaker 2: So you can have

the mussaka, the lamb curry or the pay What are you going for? 01:32:43 Speaker 3: You know? 01:32:43 Speaker 10: I have to go to the lamb curry because my wife cooked a curry with lamb shanks in it a couple of nights ago and it was amazing and I'd never thought of combining those two things. Wellerilations, lamb curry. 01:32:52 Speaker 2: Lady Sherry is the winner. Good on your Sherry, and thanks to Katrina and Michelle as well. 01:32:56 Speaker 1: How about that magnificent work, Tasting Australia presented by a Journey Beyond Friday, The second to the Sunday, eleventh of May. Book your tickets now at Tasting Australia dot com dot au. Dr Richard Harris, of course, of the ty Cave Rescue fame in our household, known best as a children's book author, because Alfie the Brave is probably the most read book in our house. My two year old walks out with it probably three times a day and it's time. It's time to read about your dog. But today you come to us as essentially a patron for the History Festival that's coming up in South Australia, that's right. 01:33:30 Speaker 10: And a guest food judge, which is. 01:33:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. You're a very talented man. 01:33:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:33:36 Speaker 10: So we've got the History Festival, a one month event run by the South Australian Government and with the History Trust of South Australia and starts on Thursday, the first of May, and I kick it off with the Hubert Wilkins Oration at the Drill Hall at Torren's Paradeground. 01:33:56 Speaker 2: So when you were a kid, Richard, did you find yourself drawn to to stories like that of George Wilkins with a sense of wonder because history is often sort of people think, oh, history is a bit dry and dusty and dull. It's anything, but that isn't it. 01:34:11 Speaker 10: Well As a student, as a young boy, I found history very dry and dusty, and maybe that's the way it was taught to me, because I think if I'd been able to learn about guys like Wilkins and other inspirational explorers, I would have got right into it back then. And so one of the things that we're trying to do through this the Wilkins Project, which is part of the History Trust, is to bring Wilkins back home because he's a South Australian and I guarantee that at least sixty or seventy percent of the people listening to this program will never have heard of him. And yet his accomplishments between World War One and the end of World War Two are so unbelievable that they, you know, they most people would be staggered if they knew what he got up to. 01:34:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we spoke to Peter fitz Simon's a couple years ago when you wrote the book about him. 01:35:01 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right. 01:35:03 Speaker 2: He's not even a household name in South Australa. 01:35:05 Speaker 1: It's not. 01:35:05 Speaker 10: And yet in the America and in the UK and throughout Europe. He was absolutely a household name. You know, he was knighted by King George, which is why he used the

name Hubert rather than George out of respect to the king. He was had a ticket tape parade in the US when he came back from flying across the Arctic for the first time, navigating across there with another pilot. He was received by the French government given the highest awards that a lot of these European countries could offer him for all of these different things that he achieved. 01:35:37 Speaker 1: I knowe in the oration, you're talking about this idea of unlocking the inner explorer, and I just wonder what does exploration mean? Do you think in twenty twenty five, when historically we think about it as crossing the Atlantic or heading to the North Pole, or circumnavigating the globe, quite a literal idea of exploration, What does it mean in this day and age. 01:35:53 Speaker 10: Do you think, Well, it can still be that physical or geographical exploration. And a lot of my life has been all about that in terms of it exploring caves, which I feel the last place on this Earth, apart from perhaps the deep ocean, where someone like myself, for just an average bloke. A woman can get into a cave and find a new bit of tunnel which they can claim as their own. You know, you can walk or swim around the corner and be the first person to ever lay eyes on a bit of landscape. And that is a very addictive and exciting thing to do. Now, in the olden days you could claim a whole country, but now just a hundred meters of cave tunnel. 01:36:30 Speaker 2: It still gives you. 01:36:31 Speaker 10: That same of excitement, and then you document it. You look at the science in there and you want to conserve it. So I have found these people to be very inspirational. Now, I'm not an expert on Wilkins or any historical figure, so my talk, rather than being an expert die Tribe on this explorer, will be to talk about him and other inspirational figures throughout my life who have inspired me and who I think we can use to inspire the next generation. And I'm particularly interested in this this concept that there is a big mental health epidemic and adolescence in particular, and we need to find figures, whether they're historical or current, who can get kids off their screens outside and exploring even if it's just their local park or on their bikes with their little gang, to get out and about and do their own little local bit of exploration. And I think that's really really important. 01:37:23 Speaker 2: Do you think we've become too risk averse as a society And there's a sort of modern style of parenting which is, I don't climb that tree, you might break your arm. 01:37:31 Speaker 10: That's absolutely right, Pembo, and I think that, you know, parents are being pushed into this corner where everyone's talking about risk and danger so much that we're all paralyzed with fear and we're not letting our kids do this stuff, which is absolutely necessary. They you know, we cannot avoid risk. Risk is everywhere, and so they need to be encouraged to learn how to manage it. And that starts as a young person on your bike or on foot, getting out and about, you know. To be honest, a town like Adelaide, it has never been a safer place for young people. There's a camera on every street corner, you know that concerns about stranger danger, abduction and stuff. I mean obviously that it still exists and online especially, but offline and outside, the reality is it's a very safe place. And whilst there will always be an occasional bad thing that will happen, if we go the other way and try and protect our young people from all this stuff, they will be damaged beyond belief. And I think that's part of the reason or part of the thing that's happening with their mental health. 01:38:29 Speaker 1: This sounds like the scientific and more serious approach to a viral tweet that went around a while ago that I think everyone thought they had a lot of truth to it, which was that these days there are kids that put together six three hour videos on how to find every ring in Sonic. The hedgehog that thore eight hundred years ago would have been cataloging every beetle in their neighborhood and what was once a dedication to something now that has currency and it's exciting. Historically, they would have been spending that time doing something that had a scientific value to it. And I guess your point is still opportunities to do. 01:39:01 Speaker 10: That, you know, walk along the beach and pick up shells. I mean, I have to be careful what I say, because a lot of this stuff is kind of it's frowned upon these days. But look, I had flies with pins on them on a piece of cardboard, you know, collecting bugs and beetles and seashells and what have you. And it wasn't the collecting that was important. It was the fact that I was out there looking and observing, and that's why I fell in love with the ocean and the environment and the bush that we have here. It's really important. 01:39:25 Speaker 2: So what is it seven years now since the Thaie Cave rescue. How much did that change your life? 01:39:32 Speaker 1: Oh? 01:39:33 Speaker 10: One hundred percent. My life is unrecognizable now. I stopped practicing medicine two years ago to continue to take up all the opportunities that I've been offered. You know, I'm writing books, I'm working on my filmmaking career. 01:39:46 Speaker 1: Love I've always. 01:39:47 Speaker 10: Loved underwater imaging, and so I'm trying to do that as a job now full time. 01:39:52 Speaker 2: And you're still massively into the cave diving. 01:39:54 Speaker 10: I've backed off a little bit from the exploration and the deep stuff, mainly for the sanity of my wife. You know, she's got enough gray hairs, So I have backed off a little bit from that. But I still love cave diving. I still go down to Mount Gambia for recreational cave diving. I would call it just to enjoy that beautiful place with my friends and raging. 01:40:17 Speaker 1: With regard to filmmaking, you're not talking about your own exploration, then you're talking

about other things. 01:40:21 Speaker 10: Well, we've I've got my first feature documentary coming out this year. We just premiered at south By Southwest in Austin and Texas last month, which is amazing. So Jennifer Pedam from Stranger Than Fiction in Sydney's the director. I've been over there collecting footage for the last fifteen years and been pestering people like Paul Jennifer to turn her into something, and now she's created this, what I think is an amazing documentary about myself and my friends doing this very deep exploration in a cave in Museum seven. So I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say yet where it's about to be released in Australia, but it's coming quite soon. So as soon as I have news, which is next week. Basically it's all about to let you know. 01:41:03 Speaker 1: Oh, that'll be fascinating. 01:41:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what about Craig. 01:41:05 Speaker 1: What's he up to now? 01:41:06 Speaker 10: Craig continues to live a wonderful life in Western Australia. He lives in Perth, he's got his helicopter, he's got his property down and near Bremer Bay. And he's a professional relaxer like myself. 01:41:20 Speaker 2: And so you're down the road to a few days a week at Government House as well as the last Yeah. 01:41:25 Speaker 10: General, Yeah, that's right, Lieutenant Governor working with the amazing Francis Adam Adamson. So what a privilege that's been to do that for last year and this year. 01:41:35 Speaker 2: Is my is my She's an exploring in her own way, isn't she. 01:41:38 Speaker 10: She's she's everything. She's she's a polymath like Hubert Wilkins. She's just you know, speaks multiple languages, well traveled, has worked at the highest levels of government. Yeah, she's and several indigenous languages. I have nothing but complete respect for her. 01:41:53 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hey, we always have catching up with your doctor. 01:41:57 Speaker 1: Harries. Great Harry, Harry. 01:42:00 Speaker 2: We'll see you against sen and good on you for doing this. I'm excited about it. The History Festival twenty twenty five and if there's other events that are part of it, we'll dig them out and give them some exposure in the coming weeks. 01:42:14 Speaker 10: I think there's nearly six hundred events this year, so there's plenty to go around there. Most of them are free, so get into it. 01:42:19 Speaker 1: Sense excellent, great to have you in. Let's check traffic, come and experience the difference today at the Brown New Jarvis toy to Brighton Rhades summon. 01:42:25 Speaker 4: In Park David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a Breakfast. 01:42:30 Speaker 1: Six minutes to night. We've been giving away tickets all a week to blow it in the win this terrific show featuring the music Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, Joan BAERs, the Traveling will brees with people each and every day that have called in, and well they might because it is some of the greatest music of all time. And you know what, you can keep your Timothy Shamalay. We've got Harry Balderstone in the studio with us this morning. Who is Bob Dylan in this wonderful show. Harry, Good morning to. 01:42:54 Speaker 11: You Monty guys. Thanks for having us on. 01:42:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much for coming in. 01:42:57 Speaker 2: Harry. We're talking about the Bier pic the other day, Complete Unknown. There's always been enduring sort of karen of interest in Dylan's work, but is that given it even more of a kick along do you think absolutely? 01:43:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:43:10 Speaker 20: I think in this sort of modern age of you know, a lot of biopics coming out about all these different artists, I think this one has really hit the mark in terms of its accuracy and a great casting of Toothy Schallo may as you say, I certainly don't have a patch on him, but it definitely has reignited that, particularly for some of that early dealing stuff, and I think it's shone a light on his relationship with some of those other artists you mentioned, so Johan Byers and Johnny Cash, which I don't know if everyone was really aware of, and I think it's great for that music. 01:43:42 Speaker 1: David and I both love Bob Dylan, so we're pretty excited about this. 01:43:45 Speaker 11: We'll see there. 01:43:46 Speaker 1: What's the what's the hardest thing about singing as Bob Dylan? 01:43:51 Speaker 20: Well, people will often say comment on his vocal abilities, but I think that sort of overlooks the genius of the songwriting. And the thing about Bob is that he doesn't sing the song the same way each time, often changes, you know, changes the lyrics the way he sings it. 01:44:09 Speaker 11: So I've sort of tried to pick a bit of. 01:44:11 Speaker 20: A happy medium between doing a Bob Dylan show and Bob Dylan pression and myself, I'm not certainly not going out there to do word for word or you know, intonation for the exact same. 01:44:23 Speaker 2: Does the show focus on a certain period of Dylan, Like is it all pre electric early Dylan? 01:44:28 Speaker 20: No Dylan, I mean huge catalog as you do. Of course, know we're talking, you know, sixty nearly about sixty. 01:44:34 Speaker 11: Years of music. 01:44:35 Speaker 20: So we're doing a bit of the early stuff and some of the collaborations he had with Johnny Cash and Joan Byers as well, and then I sort of go through and pick the best of the best and some of the super groups he's involved, and you mentioned the Traveling Wheelbery's and so it's just a best do. 01:44:49 Speaker 1: But that's a radical departure from seeing Bob Dylan in concept. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:44:56 Speaker 11: You know, it's like, well, as long as it's not like when Bob Blast came to. 01:44:59 Speaker 2: Adelect, I sort of have in Sydney and I reckon there were two songs he played the only played truncated versions of them that we knew, and the rest of it. But it was at the end of the night went well, that was Bob Dylan. 01:45:11 Speaker 11: That's right. 01:45:12 Speaker 20: I was lucky enough to see him about fifteen years ago, I think at the End Center and just sat behind the piano the whole night. I didn't speak to the crowd, but it was I can say I've seen Bob, which is. 01:45:22 Speaker 1: More than have you got a favorite Dylan song to sing? 01:45:24 Speaker 20: Yes, So in the nineteen seventies he sort of had a recognition of his career with three albums starting with Blood on the Tracks, Desire and Street Legal, And the first track on Blood on the Tracks is Tangled Up in Blue and singing that song. 01:45:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got that on vinyl, that recordit Did you go late? Did you like anything off like Infidels? 01:45:45 Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, joking man, fantastic and even some of the stuff on Time out of Mind and No Mercy as well. So you get into the eighties and nineties and he's done some stuff recently, rough and rowdy ways I think a couple of years old. So but I think you can't go past that sort of mid seventies deal, and I think his voice sounds great then sort of really had settled into his band as well. 01:46:07 Speaker 1: So yeah, we can get tickets at ticket tech dot com. Dot Au. Blowin' in the Wind is the name of the show. It's on at Her Majesty Theater. What a great setting for it as well, just spectacular. Great have you in, Harry Lovely really nice to make you. 01:46:20 Speaker 2: It's been Harry half out here, has it. We should have Harry half hour more often. That was good. 01:46:26 Speaker 1: It's a coped to nine o'clock all from us on this Wednesday morning. We're back for the First of Bay tomorrow. Thursday morning. We'll catch up from six 01:46:33 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast