บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Throwback: Jason Ritter - Actor (A Million Little Things / Raising Dion)

00:04:32.720 wanted to rise to the challenge. 75 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:34.720 I have been to New York a few times, and 76 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.680 coming from small town Texas, I will agree with you 77 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.120 New York scared the shit out of me. But it 78 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:43.920 was a lot of fun once I got over that 79 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.279 being terrified thing. Paris was the same way. Once you 80 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.439 get over Yeah, once you get over that fear, it all, 81 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:52.040 it's all good. Who was your friend? It was going 82 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:53.639 to go and you were going to be roommates. 83 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:58.079 With Simon Helberg. He's also an amazing factor as well 84 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.879 as being my best friend, he's incredible. We've been friends 85 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.240 since we were thirteen about making a little you know, 86 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:11.439 prank calls and seeing little uh, long haired jerks and 87 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:13.519 uh and then yeah we went to We went to 88 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.000 New York together and studied at the Atlantic Theater Company 89 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:22.160 together and still really really great friends. He's He's an 90 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:23.720 incredible human being. 91 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:29.399 Very cool. Everybody. You might know Simon from I guess 92 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.920 Big Bang Theory, But that's probably the smallest thing he's 93 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.079 ever done. The biggest thing he's ever done is you 94 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:37.240 played the moist in Doctor Horrible's sing Along blog. 95 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:44.240 He was he was moist. That was an incredible thing. 96 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.399 That's one of my favorites of his credit. Also was 97 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.600 in Florence Foster Jenkins playing the piano with Meryl Streep 98 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:52.720 a couple of years ago. 99 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.079 Well, get right on out of town. 100 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.839 Yeah, exactly, things that I'm very proud out of my 101 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:02.920 my middle school best friend. 102 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:07.519 Well, I should say so, I should say so. I 103 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:10.920 actually have been in in Simon's office. 104 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.680 Really yes, Oh my gosh. 105 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.879 I'm sure that he He probably hasn't been in that 106 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:25.079 office since I have. Even so. He has an office 107 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.040 over at the Antis Theater Company, and I think it's 108 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:31.800 in Los Angeles, might be Glendale, but uh I interviewed 109 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.279 Bill brock trumpsh Yeah, yeah, so I got and we 110 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.120 did it. We got We did the interview in Simon's office. 111 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:39.079 So that was really cool. 112 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:43.879 Oh that's awesome. Yeahs does great work here at They're 113 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:48.600 an amazing theater company. Highly recommended to anybody visiting Los Angeles. 114 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:49.439 Story Glendale. 115 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.639 It's close by me too. I highly recommend that also. 116 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.959 And and for those of you listening, Glendale is basically 117 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.439 a suburb of LA. Don't get it like they make 118 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.120 it seem like it's you know, really far. It's it 119 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:07.600 is LA. It's just glenn Dale. Everybody relax now, Jason, 120 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.720 I know that you don't remember this, and nor should you, 121 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.160 but you and I have interacted with each other once 122 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:18.040 before sort of really yeah, well ish. We both have 123 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.160 the distinction of being on the Kevin Pollock Chat Show, 124 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:26.079 AH filmed at the West Side Comedy Theater in Los Angeles. Now, 125 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.199 I was the only person in the audience for the 126 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.240 episode with David Keckner. It wasn't a live show, so 127 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.240 it's not like nobody showed up. Kevin was nice enough 128 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:40.800 to let me sit quietly in the audience while while 129 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:43.839 he was interviewing David on My first trip to LA. 130 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.839 And then you were also a guest on the Kevin 131 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.519 Pollack Chat Show. But Kevin wasn't there. Sam Levine sat 132 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:54.199 in for him and interviewed you. Yes, and on your episode, 133 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:57.800 Sam read you a couple of questions from Twitter from well, 134 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.120 it might have been from emails, but it was from fans, 135 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:01.399 and one of them was. 136 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.240 Mine, no way, that is so wild. 137 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.959 Yes, And my question was my question was why are 138 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:12.639 you so good at vines? That tells you how long 139 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.160 ago it was people there was vines. 140 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.000 Oh there were vines. You know. I haven't spoken about. 141 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.519 It's a point of pain for me. But all of 142 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:26.160 my vines got a race. They they're all gone. 143 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:27.639 That is a crime. 144 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.439 I don't know what happened. They like, they were like, oh, 145 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:34.799 we're gonna like, we're gonna, we're gonna keep some vines 146 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:36.879 and you know, you can look up some of them, 147 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.919 but make sure you

download all of them so that 148 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:41.720 you can have it. And I don't remember what was 149 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.159 going on. I was like, I don't have space on 150 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:48.039 my phone, but I you know, I made an assumption 151 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.320 and then I just checked and they're like, oh no, no, 152 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:52.879 we didn't keep your vine nice. We kept like the 153 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.919 big viners vines. And I was like, oh, why. 154 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:59.440 Well, I really enjoyed your vines. I really really enjoyed it. 155 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.120 So it's all all in a memory, but thank you. 156 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:05.759 I appreciate it. Thank you. I had so much fun 157 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:06.279 making them. 158 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:08.600 And what I thought was really cool was that it 159 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.639 didn't seem like you felt pressure to make them. You 160 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.120 just made them when you felt inspired. 161 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.440 Yeah. Yeah, I never let it feel like it was 162 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:18.720 a job or something like that where I was like, hey, 163 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.799 I got to create this content. It was just like 164 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:27.120 mostly it was sitting around slightly bored or some little 165 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:30.120 stupid idea that made me laugh to me and I 166 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:32.559 on here, I'll purge it by putting it on vine 167 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.279 and force other people to see it if they wanted. 168 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.960 Yes, everybody else enjoy it. I know I did. I 169 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.360 had so much fun and I would look forward to them. 170 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.039 That was just a super fun time. So thank you 171 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:44.600 for doing that. 172 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:45.639 Thank you. 173 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.480 Now we are going to get into your career in 174 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.799 things a little bit, But why did you want to 175 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.039 become an actor? I know that you are a third generation. 176 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.600 Your grandfather and your father were both in the business 177 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.279 quite successful, So what made you decide to do? Oh, 178 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:04.559 and I know that your siblings, I think all of 179 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.600 them are in the business too, right. 180 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:10.879 My brother Tyler is an actor. My sister Carly is 181 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.679 an incredible actor, but she went more of the route 182 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:18.919 of my grandfather and went into music. So she she 183 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:23.759 records songs. And my youngest brother's in college and I 184 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.480 think he could be an actor as well, but he hasn't. 185 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.679 He hasn't expressed interest yet. He's in criminal psychology and 186 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:31.639 having a great time. 187 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.360 So your brother's a criminal, got it? 188 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:39.320 Yeah? My brother, one of my brothers was a criminal. Yeah. 189 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.720 So so how come you decided to get into the business. 190 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:44.519 I mean, I think it was it was a couple 191 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.159 of things. There. There was one element of being around 192 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.840 it and seeing what it was like, you know, when 193 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.639 I would go and visit my dad, and you know, 194 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.320 it seemed like he was having such a great time 195 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.639 and he really had a passion for it, and so 196 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.320 there was an element of that. And then I think 197 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.840 I really loved doing it. You know, I was one 198 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.080 of those kids who you know, went out for the 199 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.039 school play and then just loved the whole process of it. 200 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.759 I just liked trying to make people laugh. I like 201 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:17.360 learning lines and thinking about it. And I think in 202 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.200 a lot of ways it was almost a way to 203 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.879 learn about people and a way to figure out how 204 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.240 they tick. And you know, every once in a while, 205 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.799 especially when I was growing up, you'd be talking about 206 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:31.360 a character and why they are doing a certain thing 207 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.559 or why they say this thing, and you're trying to 208 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.559 piece it all together, and you would learn something. You're like, Oh, 209 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.519 I haven't had this experience and my personal life as 210 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:45.480 an eleven year old or however old I was, But 211 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:48.200 now I can kind of understand what that's like. And 212 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.799 I think I had a lot of empathy for other people, 213 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.480 always have, you know, put myself in other people's shoes, 214 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:02.039 sort of automatically, almost to a point of like self paralysis. 215 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.080 It's just not wanting to step on anybody's toes. Ever, 216 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:08.360 so I think it was fun for me to step 217 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:12.159 into another world, and it always it felt like it 218 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.279 always made a little bit more sense, sort of a 219 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.720 controlled environment where I could exist and talk and listen 220 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.120 and be someone else and put the real world aside

221 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.159 for an hour and a half or however they want. 222 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.159 The play was And if I am correct in assuming, 223 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.000 as is the case with most parent actors, they really 224 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.720 don't want their kids to go into the business. 225 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.799 Was that the case with you too, No, it wasn't. 226 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:44.200 Actually I that was the case for both my parents. 227 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:49.799 Actually there their parents, my grandparents who were lovely people 228 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.720 had a lot of real concerns, and you know, my 229 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.240 dad's dad was an actor, and he had concerns from 230 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.720 the inside. He wanted my dad to do something where 231 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.279 he would be sure to make money, and he knew 232 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.240 that there were lots of ups and downs and it 233 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:07.879 was not something that you could necessarily count on or 234 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.320 plan for build a life on, you know, for certain. 235 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.440 And so I think it came from wanting to protect them. 236 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.879 But I think for both my parents it was painful 237 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:20.840 for them to you know, have their dream and have 238 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.639 it just sort of not encouraged. Neither of them were 239 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.200 stopped by their parents. They still were able to do it, 240 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.360 but you know, there was just a lot more concern 241 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:32.519 than you know, you can do anything you put your 242 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:36.799 mind to. However, that was also not how they talked 243 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.080 to me about. It wasn't like you can do anything 244 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:41.279 you put your mind to. They just sort of took 245 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.480 me seriously when I said I wanted to do it. 246 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.240 They were like, Okay, well, it's you know, the craft, 247 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.399 and you know you've got to learn about it. Here's 248 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:53.879 the books, here's some books to read, here's the performances 249 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.159 you need to watch. You know, they were like, give 250 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.799 me all this homework. I was like, ah, never mind. 251 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.279 I thought of thought it would just be kind of 252 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.559 like walking around saying other people's words. But yes, it 253 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.519 was enough where they really took me seriously and they 254 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.879 told me that it was very competitive and potentially I 255 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:14.120 was opening myself up to a world of constant rejection 256 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:17.799 and pain. But then like, once I had all the information, 257 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:23.480 they let me kind of go and to fail or 258 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:26.960 not on my own terms, which was lovely. 259 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.159 Very cool. I like when parents do that. 260 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:30.559 Yes, me too. 261 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:34.519 That said, I could be wrong, but I think your 262 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:38.320 very first television appearance was on Three's Company. Were you 263 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:39.519 in the opening credits? 264 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.200 I was in the opening credits. Yeah. 265 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:43.039 Nice. 266 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.240 Yeah. They were at the zoo, you know, they were 267 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:51.080 doing all the montage stuff, and I guess I wriggled 268 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:54.240 out of my mom's arms and ruined a shot essentially, 269 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.200 but they kept it in because it was fun. Joyce 270 00:14:58.240 --> 00:14:59.000 didn't seem to mind. 271 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.039 What well, did you get paid on that? 272 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:06.159 I don't think I did. Maybe I should look into that. No, 273 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:07.759 I don't think. 274 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.559 Yeah, I feel like they owe you a lot of 275 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:11.799 money and residuals. 276 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.919 Yeah, I'm going to get on the phone say. 277 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.480 Hey, because that was back when residuals mattered. That was 278 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:18.519 back when it was real money. 279 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:23.679 That's true. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, for sure, Yeah, for sure. 280 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:25.960 I'll just say, hey, you haven't given me enough. 281 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:27.559 All right, I'll put in a phone call to the 282 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:29.399 president of show Business. 283 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:30.919 Thank you very much. 284 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.360 You're welcome. I got your back, man, I got your back. 285 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:35.840 I appreciate. Although I don't know if I was in 286 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:37.840 the union yet, so it might get me in trouble. 287 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.600 Huh, conundrum. 288 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:43.759 But you can get alone, all right. 289 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.679 I have a quote here from somebody about you, and 290 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:48.799 I want you to see if you can figure out 291 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:53.679 who said it. Okay, okay, this is about you. I 292 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.559 love him so much. He is one of the greatest 293 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.960 actors of my generation. He has that pixie du. 294 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.799 Oh my gosh, okay, of my generation. So it's someone 295 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:06.799 around my age. 296 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.399 Yes, and someone who I would assume you are

friends with. 297 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.279 Oh gosh, I don't even know Simon. 298 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:17.679 Good guess. But no, that was a little, a little 299 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.679 unknown fellow by the name of Dax Shepherd. 300 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:25.600 Oh my gosh, Okay, that makes more sense. Yes, well, 301 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.360 that's lovely. He is. He is such a lovely person. 302 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.039 And an important person to me. And uh oh, that's 303 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:35.000 so nice that he said that. 304 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.559 Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors. 305 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.759 Guess what, street walkers, The gear is here. A bunch 306 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.080 of you been asking for quite some time, and now 307 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.919 finally it's here. Head over to Fascination Streetpod dot com 308 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:55.240 and check out the gear tab. 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Check out Steve's work at O'Reilly Drums 317 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:30.160 on Instagram or search Steven O'Reilly on YouTube. 318 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:32.599 Let's get back into it. 319 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.839 I was told by somebody else to call you Jase 320 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:40.640 the Ace from outer space. 321 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.559 Yes, that was a nickname given to me. 322 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:55.000 By yourself, your parents, you know when I. 323 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.680 Was when I was a kid, I guess I just 324 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.720 spaced out. A lot. It wasn't because I was astronaut. 325 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:03.400 They just give me a balloon and I would just 326 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.039 focus in on the balloon like it was the most 327 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.200 important thing, and I could just entertain myself and just 328 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:13.720 kind of go into my own world. So there I 329 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:17.880 heard the phrase Earth to Jason quite a lot in 330 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:20.640 my childhood that I would just be off in my 331 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:26.359 little dream world. And so then the Jacas from out 332 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:28.960 of Space or Jason Space space. It was only much 333 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.039 later that I learned that nicknames are usually shorter and 334 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:35.880 quicker than your actual name. But yeah, jac As from 335 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.119 out of Space had a nice rhythm to it. 336 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:39.960 Yeah, I don't think that'll fit on the back of 337 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:45.720 a jersey, but I still like it. I think you 338 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.880 got a movie before you got your very first TV show, right, 339 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.319 weren't you in a Freddy versus Jason or something. 340 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.119 The first movie I was in was called Mumford that 341 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:03.200 was been and directed by Lawrence Kasmin. I was yeah, yeah, 342 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.279 it was pretty amazing, and Simon ended up also being 343 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.519 in it, and and it was also Zoe Dachanel's first 344 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.839 movie as well. We were all in high school and 345 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.440 we all auditioned for it and ended up getting different 346 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:19.759 parts of it. But but yes, then three or four 347 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:23.039 years later I got Freddy Versus Jason. But Mumford was 348 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:27.279 such an incredible experience and it was a wonderful first job. 349 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.519 I was so terrified, but Lawrence was so warm and 350 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.920 so kind and so lovely and felt very lucky. 351 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:37.880 Now, the first pilot you ever shot, you got it, right, 352 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:40.400 wasn't that Joan of Arcadia? Was that the first pilot 353 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.720 you ever went out for? Or well, actually the first 354 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:43.799 part you ever shot. 355 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:45.319 That was a I had gone out for a bunch 356 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.000 of pilots that season, but yeah, it was the first 357 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.640 pilot I got. And then when it got picked up, 358 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:51.599 I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. And 359 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.960 we went for two seasons and it was very exciting. 360 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.160 But yeah, I couldn't I kind of couldn't believe it. 361 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.680 I had been told so much that, you know, so 362 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:05.680 many pilots get made, only certain numbers can get picked up, 363 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.480 and then you know it's such a gamble. Yeah, it 364 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:13.079 was pretty incredible. And that was also a show filled 365 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:18.799 with incredibly special people Mary steam Bergen and Amber Tamblin 366 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.640 and Joe Montana and Michael Welch and just a big, 367 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:23.000 great family. 368 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:27.599 I've never heard of any of those names, now, totally kidding. 369 00:20:28.759

--> 00:20:32.799 So I read somewhere that your inspiration for that character 370 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.440 on Joan of Arcadia was Drake's character in Degrassi. 371 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:41.000 That is not true. 372 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:43.279 Y'all were both in wheelchairs for the whole time. 373 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:49.759 Yes, but I actually I knew Drake as a rapper 374 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.480 before I came to know his character into Grassy High. 375 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:58.480 I didn't know that until after afterwards. But but yeah, 376 00:20:58.559 --> 00:20:58.920 there's some. 377 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.160 Very similar Now you can go on to your rap career. 378 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.079 Cool, exactly exactly it's coming right up. 379 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:08.480 Hey, what's your rap name going to be? I'll please 380 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:09.680 say jc Ace. 381 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.799 It's got to be and then in parentheses from outer space. 382 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:14.519 Yeah, there you go. 383 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.200 Yeah, you know, and why not that's some punctuation. 384 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:24.559 Yeah, and you only wrap about sci fi nerd stuff, right, Yeah. 385 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:25.880 I try that. 386 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.079 Yeah, right, you hear that, vine see what you missed. 387 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.720 Out on exactly? You burned me and now I'm a 388 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.240 huge nerd rap guy. 389 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.039 Okay. So Joan of Arcadia ran for two seasons, right, Yeah, 390 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.160 I don't want you to get too specific about part 391 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:47.680 of this time period, but I really want to focus 392 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.279 on the difficulty of trying to navigate your first ever 393 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.640 show during the loss of your father. Like, I don't 394 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:57.079 want to talk too much about that, your dad, I 395 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.200 don't know, but I just want to talk about from 396 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:01.960 the business side, from trying to get your own show, 397 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:05.000 which is super hard to manage in itself, but then 398 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.799 compounded by arguably the biggest tragedy of your life up 399 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:09.359 to that point. 400 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:12.400 You know, it was it was very intense, I have 401 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:16.880 to say it was. He had seen the pilot presentation 402 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.039 I had given him then. I think it was like, 403 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:22.440 you know, a thirty minute thing before we tropped the 404 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.079 rest of the pilot, so he had seen that, and 405 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.200 he had given me. You know, he always had like 406 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:32.119 notes and little ideas and things like that. Never it 407 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.720 never felt oppressive, just sort of like, oh, this could 408 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.119 be fun for next time or something like that. And 409 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.319 he really just was like, that was really beautiful, and 410 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.160 he told me a couple of moments that he liked 411 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:47.119 and it was really lovely. And then I think he 412 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:52.480 died a week before it aired. So it was intense 413 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.400 because in that period of time, you know, everyone's doing 414 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.519 a lot of press and you know you're trying to 415 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:01.400 have this positive energy and get the show out there 416 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.240 and all this stuff, and you know, they let me 417 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.000 not do that, and I did feel like they circled 418 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.039 the wagons around me, and you know, every all the 419 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.920 casts and the producers were very protective and sweet, and 420 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.160 they were really there for me in that period of time, 421 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:19.440 and I mean, and continue to be. It really does 422 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.559 feel like we were a family. But I think one 423 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:24.960 of the interesting things about it was we were doing 424 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:29.960 a show that was very spiritual and kind of about 425 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.000 there being a plan and trying to make sense of 426 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.440 the universe and things like that. And we had even 427 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.160 just tried an episode that was all about death or 428 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.319 we were actually that was the next episode that we 429 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.839 were shooting was actually about death and Joe and confronts 430 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:51.039 God about death, and so it all felt very it 431 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.720 was it was just it was confusing. I mean, something 432 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:55.920 like that happens and your world is just kind of 433 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:01.319 turned upside down. It feels strange that anything caninues to happen. 434 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:04.839 It just, you know, like it it's bizarre. But I 435 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.759 do feel really lucky that in that period of time 436 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:13.039 I was surrounded with such lovely people, and Joe Montagna 437 00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:18.000 in particular, sort of stepped in in a very subtle 438 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.839 and respectful way, just kind of gave me a lot 439 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:24.319 of dad energy and lots of proud of you and 440 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.400 all that kind of stuff, and it really meant a 441 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.240 lot to me. But yeah, it was bizarre. We went 442 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.079 to the People's Choice

Awards a couple months later, and 443 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.759 I was still sort of reeling from it. It just was 444 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.480 weird to talk and kind of put on a smile 445 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.839 and talk to people when you know, it'd be one 446 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:43.359 thing if it was just a private loss that nobody 447 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.039 knew about. But you know, there was quite a few 448 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.359 months where everybody I was talking to was, you know, 449 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:53.319 had a big sad face on whether or not I 450 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.240 was having an okay day or not. But like, oh, 451 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.519 I got to talk about it again, and it got 452 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.880 easier as time goes on to sort of navigate all that. 453 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.559 But it was bizarre to be in a completely new 454 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.759 and foreign scenario and one in which I really would 455 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:13.400 have loved to have his advice too, you know, in 456 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.960 that period of time. And still but yeah, it felt 457 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.160 sort of like I wish we could be talking about it. 458 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:23.920 I wish, you know, all sorts of stuff. But again, 459 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.200 I do feel lucky that I had a job to 460 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.519 go to and that there was some kind of structure. 461 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:32.640 I think if I just was out in the world 462 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.559 or still trying to audition, I don't even I don't know, 463 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:39.240 I could have fallen apart even worse. But it was 464 00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.640 nice to be to go into work and be with 465 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:44.920 a group of people who I loved and I cared 466 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.079 about and who cared about me, And I'm just forever 467 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:49.759 grateful to all of them for that. 468 00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:52.039 Well, it sounds like you had a pretty good support 469 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.480 system in the show, and from what I understand, that's 470 00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:59.400 not always the case with shows and the people in them. 471 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.039 Yeah, yes, no, that's true. 472 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.799 I think that's super awesome, and I feel like it 473 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.000 sucks to say it this way, but I think you 474 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.960 kind of got a little bit lucky in that. 475 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:10.839 Mm hmm. Yeah I would. 476 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.119 Yeah, nobody could ever say you're lucky for losing your dad, 477 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:17.039 but you know that you had that in place, you know, 478 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:18.440 at the right time. 479 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.759 So absolutely, oh yeah, no, absolutely, I definitely would say 480 00:26:22.799

--> 00:26:26.279 that I was lucky. I mean, Mary steam Virgin too 481 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.880 is just like she's a walking light of this earth. 482 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.079 She's just sort of healing to be in her presence 483 00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:38.359 even if everything's fine, you know, he's around her and 484 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.559 you're like, I feel better. And I'd known her since 485 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.720 I was in high school and a little bit. I mean, 486 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.400 she knew my dad and she was lovely about it too. 487 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:50.839 So yeah, I definitely feel lucky that I was able 488 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:52.759 to see such a great group of people every day 489 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.519 and in that period of time. And that also was 490 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.599 shooting in Los Angeles, so I could also be with 491 00:26:57.640 --> 00:26:59.759 my family and kind of go back and forth. I 492 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.519 will and you know, in another state or somewhere else 493 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:08.319 isolated and alone. There's a big support system there for 494 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:09.519 all of us. 495 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.680 Very cool. Yeah, real quick, I do want to thank 496 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.880 you for sharing your dad with the rest of us. 497 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.839 He legitimately kept me out of some trouble because I 498 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.079 had to be at home right after school for appointment 499 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.079 television to watch The Streete Company and laugh and have 500 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.680 a great time. So thank you for sharing your dad 501 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.119 with us. He kept me out of trouble. 502 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:33.160 That's amazing. 503 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.079 So I'm going to talk about him one more thing 504 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.400 before we move on, and that is how intimidating was 505 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:44.880 it or is it to have your father be so 506 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.599 big and so loved and so appreciated, like, does that 507 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.240 put any pressure on you at all? 508 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:51.440 You know, I felt it a lot more when I 509 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:55.279 was first starting out, and especially when I was going 510 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.799 in for comedy auditions or sitcoms in particular, I felt 511 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.200 like the casting director of the producers could make the 512 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.319 most direct comparison, you know, and I just he was 513 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.079 so funny that I just knew I was not as 514 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.400 funny as he was. So And I also I have 515 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.279 no idea if any of this about the casting directors 516 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.279 thinking that or feeling that how much of it came 517 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.359 from them, and how I bet ninety nine percent of 518 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.759 it was my own insecurities and things like that. But 519 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.680 regardless of where it came from, I would go into 520 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:35.119 those early comedy auditions and be just shaking, which didn't 521 00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.359 happen as much, you know, and auditioning for some of 522 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.640 the more serious things. So I feel like that's partly 523 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.039 why I gravitated to some of those kinds of roles 524 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.319 earlier on and only got into doing comedy a little 525 00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.039 bit later as I got more comfortable. But I do 526 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.000 have to say that him being as nice as he 527 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.519 was and loved as he was, that was always a plus. 528 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.279 I mean, I've come across people who have, you know, 529 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:05.240 inside the acting world and outside, who have to sort 530 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.640 of go around apologizing for their parents and you know, 531 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.359 oh you met my mom or my dad. Oh I'm 532 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.000 so sorry did he say or doing terrible to you? 533 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.359 I please, I'm not like you know, things like that. 534 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.279 And it was really lovely that he left such a 535 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:25.160 nice feeling in most people's arts. And still as I 536 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.799 go around in my life, someone will tell me some weird, 537 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.480 nice story of him, you know, I don't know, giving 538 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.480 up the seats the Starbucks or something like that, just 539 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.759 like some little nice thing that he wouldn't have raced 540 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.359 home and told all of us. But you know, he 541 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.359 created these little lovely memories for lots of people, and 542 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.119 I appreciate being a recipient of some of a lot 543 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.720 of those stories. So yeah, there's two things. And I 544 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:59.400 think all of the positive stuff way outweighs the negative stuff. 545 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.880 And I do think most of the negative stuff was 546 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.279 more to do with my own insecurities than you know, 547 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:08.279 how the world perceived me or anything like that. 548 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:13.200 Well that is very very cool, very sweet. Now onder 549 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:17.440 some more embarrassing stuff besides a stunt man, What did 550 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:18.599 you want to be when you grew up. 551 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:25.000 Oh wow, well, stuntman was a big one. Astronaut was 552 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.319 also a big one. I

don't know if that had 553 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:29.640 to do with being called jac Instrum. Out of space 554 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.680 so long, I felt like like I need to go 555 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.039 back home. That's where I'm fromt on, I'm from out there. 556 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:43.400 But I definitely wanted to float around and visit new places. 557 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:47.440 You know. I think I was very impressionable, and so 558 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:50.519 almost any movie that I saw, I was like, oh, well, 559 00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.200 what's that guy do? Indiana Jones is an archaeologist. All right, 560 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.799 then I'll do that. That seems cool. Oh wait, the 561 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:02.680 reality is you're not constantly and very exciting action scenes 562 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.720 and booby trapped temples all the time. It's much more 563 00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.559 subtle and digging and brushing aside and cataloging. Maybe not, 564 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.160 but yeah. So I was fascinated by so many different jobs, 565 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.359 and then it seems at the end of the day, 566 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.279 I was like, wait, if you're an actor, maybe you 567 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:20.839 can pretend like you're some of these other jobs every 568 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:22.759 once in a while, kind of get a little taste 569 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:23.079 of all. 570 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.119 Hey, street lockers, here's a word from our sponsors. 571 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.039 Hey guys, if you like what I'm doing. 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Kevin probably says the world, 594 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.519 do they let me do a bunch of my own stunts? 595 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.319 An incredible stuntman named Chris LEPs who was so fun 596 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:17.839 and so amazing and really got into the strange and quirky, funny, 597 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.640 weird spirit of the show. But there was one fantasy 598 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.880 sequence where I was I got to float around in 599 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.720 a space suit and it was very very exciting. 600 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:29.960 Oh cool. 601 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.279 It didn't feel like zero gravity, but I did get 602 00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:36.759 to float I did you know it looked like, yeah, 603 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.279 they were hoisting me up and you know, there's a 604 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.680 lot more pressure in the old hips crotch area with 605 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.119 the harness, and it would be in zero gravity. But 606 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.839 still I was up in the sky floating around in 607 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:50.640 a spacesuit. 608 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.759 So you got to do stunts and space stuff all 609 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:55.200 in the same show. That's awesome. 610 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.440 Yeah, that show was like a dream show for me. 611 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.000 It's just like I just get to do as every 612 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.119 fun thing I've ever wanted. And I really had so 613 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.920 much fun on that show. The creators gave me a 614 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.280 real gift with that one. 615 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.719 Well, I wanted to talk to you about that show. 616 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.480 Did you in fact actually save the world? 617 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.639 Well, we're all still here, so at least for now, 618 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:27.760 I did get to in the show because we got 619 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.920 canceled after one season, which seems to happen, has happened 620 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.880 a couple of times. But I imagine that he that 621 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.480 he did. I hope. 622 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.960 Very cool. Let's just assume yes. 623 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.000 Yeah, let's just assume yes. 624 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.199 Season two, episode one. There was only going to be 625 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:49.639 one episode, So sorry. 626 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.800 Guys, exactly. Well, actually, in the fantasy sequence where I 627 00:34:53.840

--> 00:34:57.519 floated around as an astronaut, Kevin's fantasy of finding the 628 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:01.239 final person saving the world and none of it happens 629 00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.760 for real, But I have taken that little fantasy and 630 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.679 turned it into the series finale. I'm like, Okay, that 631 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.800 wasn't a fantasy, that was a premonition. That is what happened. 632 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.079 He saves the world up in space. There are fireworks 633 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.960 that say Kevin and everyone was happily ever. 634 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.559 After, Well fantastic. Do you know what a high school 635 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.639 superlative is? A high school yearbook superlative. 636 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.719 Uh, it's like a regular relative, but super. 637 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.639 It is a regular relative. You're right, you're. 638 00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:38.599 Correct, No, I can't remember what a superlative is. 639 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.800 Yeah, that's that thing where they say most likely to whatever. Oh, yes, 640 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.639 least likely to whatever. Do you know where I'm going 641 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:45.920 with this? 642 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.239 I do? Did you find out what I was most 643 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:49.679 likely to? 644 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:57.679 This can't possibly be the case. My research suppose that 645 00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.880 you were voted most likely to fall asleep during sex? 646 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:02.760 Is that right? 647 00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.480 Yes? But let me explain. 648 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.400 No, No, that's it. I just just yes or no. 649 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:11.239 I don't need any Now, go ahead, what do you 650 00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:12.280 got give me an excuse? 651 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.159 Yes, most likely to sleep through section, But that had 652 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.840 way more to do with the fact that I could 653 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.639 sleep through anything. So while I didn't have a chance 654 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.280 while in high school to prove to anybody that I 655 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:32.960 wouldn't fall asleep during that particular act, I yeah, it 656 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.599 was I because I had a bad habit of I 657 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.480 saw asleep in class. I've actually truly wondered if I 658 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.880 have some kind of low level, undiagnosed narcolepsy, because it 659 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:49.119 hits me and I am out. I don't know what happens. 660 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.360 A lot of times it's when I'm sitting down and 661 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.400 if I'm just supposed to listen, I'm not supposed to talk. 662 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.239 I'm just supposed to sit quietly. It happens in plays. 663 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.800 It happens in movies. Something happens my I feel it 664 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.920 happening in my brain and my eyes cannot stay open. 665 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.840 So they were teasing me about sleeping, not the heather parts. 666 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:11.079 I wish they had chosen something like more excited, more, 667 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.519 you know, sleep through a earthquake or something like that. 668 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.760 I feel the connotations are so rude, especially when I 669 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.320 had no idea if it would be true or not. 670 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.119 Man, you're saying so many key words. You're bouncing me 671 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.920 all over the place. You mentioned earthquakes. Now I got 672 00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.559 to talk to you about There's one day every forty 673 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:33.400 years when the tectonic plates move in la and you 674 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:34.079 can hear them. 675 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.480 Oh no, you were there that day. 676 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:38.440 Tell me that story. 677 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.119 I got a call from my good friend Nick Town, 678 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.840 who said, are you hearing this? And I said, no, 679 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.079 what anyone? Oh my god, have you been living under 680 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.679 a rock? The tectonic plates are moving and you can 681 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.519 actually hear them. Go outside, people are at the park. 682 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.159 Everyone's doing this. I cannot believe. I thought you would 683 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.360 have seen it on the internet, like you should be 684 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.920 up on these things. I ran outside. I put my 685 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.760 ear to the ground. I couldn't hear anything. He wanted. No, 686 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.119 it's it's so crazy. It really sounds like a monster whistling, 687 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.119 he said. And then he said, you know a lot 688 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:17.599 of I see a lot of people out here have 689 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.480 like glasses. Do you have any sort of pint glasses 690 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.119 or any kind of thing you can put on your 691 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.760 ear to the ground. So I run back up into 692 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.880 my apartment, I grab a glass. I come down. I'm 693 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:31.280 getting all wet from the dewy grass, and I have 694 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.719 the glass on my ear and the glass on the ground, 695 00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.840 and nobody else is doing this in my neighborhood, and 696 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.039 I'm thinking to myself, you fools. My friend tells me 697 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.199 all of the interesting things that are happening, and I 698 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.400 am not missing this incredible events even though I can't 699 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.960 hear it. And so I get another text from Amy says,

700 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.440 well here, I think I can get a recording of it. Here. 701 00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.480 Hold on. So he sends me this wave file that 702 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:09.400 then I play, and I hear what sounds like April Fool. 703 00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:18.840 And it was all of this elaborate April Fool's prank 704 00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:22.639 that really got me. And then I tried to I 705 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:24.920 tried to do it to one of our other friends, 706 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.119 who immediately said is this an April Fools Day thing? 707 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.159 And I just don't. I will never understand how some 708 00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.119 people wake up on April Fools and are protected themselves 709 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:39.400 from They just like nothing is going to be true today. 710 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.320 I won't fall for any of it. I fall for 711 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.599 things on April Fool's Day multiple times, and I always 712 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.199 know it's April Fools Day because it's my mom's birthday. 713 00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.920 So I wake up on April first knowing that it's 714 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.599 April first. And still I'm dullible enough that a friend 715 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.119 of mine can call and say, you got to get 716 00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.760 outside and put your ear down to the grass and 717 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.920 listen to these tectonic plate shifting. 718 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.440 Now, at the beginning of this story, you said that 719 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.400 this was a good friend. Yeah, I'm going to have 720 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.800 to question the goodness of this person. What an evil, 721 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:16.119 evil bastard. That's terrible, and I love every second of it. 722 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:20.239 That's the thing. I loved it too. You know, I 723 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.400 love a good prank, even if I'm the butt of it, 724 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.559 I appreciate it. And I really took my hat off 725 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.440 to him. Also, I could not recognize that it was 726 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.440 his voice when he started the April Fools saying, and 727 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.800 he did it for way longer than I just did it. 728 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.599 Now I'm trying to save a little bit of time. 729 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:41.320 But the a of April Fools was at least thirty second. 730 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.800 It's just something like that. It was basically the end 731 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.400 of his breath that he got to the April Fools part. 732 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:53.360 But I it's fantastic. He's got an evil genius streak. 733 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.119 Unrelated to what we were talking about before, you have 734 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.159 one of the funniest stories about your very first professional play. 735 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:02.119 Can you tell it? 736 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.960 My very first professional play at the beginning of August? 737 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.800 No, your very first professional play ever, which I would 738 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.280 assume would be a long time ago. Where on the 739 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:12.000 street is that you? 740 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:12.760 Oh? 741 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:14.760 Yeah, what happened? What'd you do during? 742 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.800 That doesn't have anything to do with my most likely. 743 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:23.360 Too, Yes, tell that story. 744 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.360 Well, so it was a play called the Beginning of August. 745 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.920 That's why it's that the Atlantic Theater Company. 746 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.639 Oh, that's so funny. I thought you were talking about like, yes, 747 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.280 six months ago, I mean it is I know. 748 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.280 No, No, not at all. Even at the time we 749 00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.599 were doing the play, and there are billboards everywhere has 750 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.280 at the Beginning of August and they go, no, Now 751 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.280 I'm talking about now No, I know you see that 752 00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:53.039 it's called that, But anyway, this is actually when I 753 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.519 first worked with Mary steam Virgin a couple of years 754 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.920 before Joan of Arcadia, where we first got close back 755 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.400 doing a play and there's a scene where I'm supposed 756 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.119 to go up the stairs and at a certain point 757 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.079 I'm supposed to peek my head out the window and 758 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.000 say a quick line and then come back down. But 759 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.719 because of the way that we built the set, you know, 760 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.840 it was not a real second story to the house, 761 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.880 so I had to kind of like lay down next 762 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.599 to the window and then just sort of pop up 763 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.760 my head because there was only enough for about that 764 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.360 much space. And one night I laid down, I wasn't 765 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:33.519 feeling particularly tired. I don't know what happened, but the 766 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:37.880 weird wave hit me, and all of a sudden, I 767 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.239 woke up with a start, and I could not tell 768 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.920 if I had missed my cueue or I didn't know 769 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.639 where they were in the script at all. I was 770 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.960 like that thing where you have a short, deep sleep 771 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.400 nap and you kind of are disoriented when you wake up. 772 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.360 But it was in the middle

of a play and 773 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.519 with the paying audience and all that, and it's because 774 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.960 I didn't immediately recognize where they were in the scene 775 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.760 that was happening below. I thought this could be five 776 00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.400 ten minutes after I was supposed to and they've just 777 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:15.280 been improvising, waiting for me to pop my head up 778 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.199 or something. But luckily, at a certain point, pretty shortly 779 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.639 after I woke up, I heard the line that was 780 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.400 my cue and was able to pop up and say 781 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:29.760 my line and then go slap my face several times 782 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.679 before I had my next entrance, and then there was 783 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:39.639 lots of coffee drank. After that show, I was determined 784 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.519 to never have it happen again, and I didn't tell 785 00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:44.679 anybody because I was it was a you know it 786 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.039 my first job, and that's now it's sort of a 787 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.039 funny story. But then it's like, is this gonna happen again? 788 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.760 Are you on drugs? What's happening? 789 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.320 Yeah? I guess it's only funny when you've got three 790 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.960 hundred projects under your belt. 791 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.880 After that, and nobody was harmed as the play went on. 792 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.000 I didn't ruin the show, no, it was just it 793 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.119 was a learning experience for me. 794 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.159 Do you still have a poster of Fred Savage on 795 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:13.639 your wall. 796 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.960 I don't anymore. Yeah, I believe it's in a box 797 00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:20.679 at my mom's house. It was assigned eight by ten. 798 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.800 Oh, it was signed, Oh yeah, it. 799 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.760 Said like, you know, dere Jason, follow your dream. I 800 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.519 something very inspiring because at a certain point I wanted 801 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:33.840 to be a child actor. That was the one thing 802 00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:37.760 that my parents were like, no, no, that's just a 803 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:41.440 hard no on that one. But you can be an actor. 804 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.360 You mean, you can act and plays and stuff here, 805 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.280 but we're not going to go with a professional route 806 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.280 with you. At this point. They're like, I think it's 807 00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.119 easier to transition into an adult actor from a young 808 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.719 adult actor as opposed to a child. And I think 809 00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:58.920 that was the right decision for me. That's not that 810 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.360 I worked with of amazing child actors who were awesome 811 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.960 and it's a good choice for them, but for me, 812 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.719 I was just too shy and everything. But anyway, yeah, 813 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:11.119 so he was the king of the child actor at 814 00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.519 that point. He was funny and he was dramatic, and 815 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.920 The Wonder Years was such a wonderful show. And then 816 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.599 he was also just bride killing it and oh he 817 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.280 was just the best. And it's been a real thrill 818 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.320 to meet him a couple of times as an adult, 819 00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.320 although I don't know if I've ever gotten the courage 820 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:31.480 to collin exactly how much he meant to me growing up, 821 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.119 but he meant quite a lot. 822 00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:36.320 Well, you just did say hello, Frett. Oh no, he's 823 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:36.800 not here. 824 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.559 Ah listening the whole time. 825 00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.000 Yes, silently for an hour, that poor guy. 826 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.840 Yes, exactly. I forgot to bring this up earlier in 827 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:48.480 the podcast. 828 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:51.960 Yeah, oh oh, you know what, Jason, I think I 829 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.119 saw you one time. I was eating outside at a restaurant. 830 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:56.840 I think it was in New York. I was like 831 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.519 on a sidewalk or something, eating and you were on 832 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:03.480 the phone, but you were standing right next to like 833 00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.280 a phone booth. This will tell you how long ago. 834 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.079 It was like a phone booth or whatever, and it 835 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:11.079 had a poster of you on it. And then, like 836 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.320 almost out of a movie, It's like you noticed it 837 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.159 and then ran around the corner or whatever. And then 838 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:19.440 I was like, was that really him? And so I 839 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.519 ran around the corner to see if it was really you. 840 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.000 But then this time you were standing under a giant 841 00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.679 billboard as you I'm sure you don't remember that, but 842 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.760 it was the craziest thing I think. 843 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.159 I mean, I don't know if I remember that exact experience. 844 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:36.119 I don't know if I remember that time, but I 845 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:40.079 do remember that happening where I was on the phone 846 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.679 in my own little jc ace Verada space world and 847 00:46:45.000 -->

00:46:48.400 standing somewhere and then seeing that there was a big 848 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.199 poster of my face. I think it was around the 849 00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.519 time that the event was out, So there were all 850 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:57.920 these big posters everywhere, and I would see one, and 851 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:02.199 I would be so embasters by the idea that someone 852 00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:06.360 like you may see me and think, oh, I'm here 853 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:10.039 talking loudly on my phone trying to be like, hey, 854 00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.119 look who's in this guy this poster? So I, yeah, 855 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.000 I anytime I thought I would run run away. So 856 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.639 it's not to seem like I was purpose police standing 857 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.039 in front of my own face trying to draw attention 858 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:25.440 to it. 859 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.920 I thought it was weird that you kept saying on 860 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.440 the phone loudly, no nothing, what are you leaning against? 861 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:39.039 It was really weird, just just a really exciting new 862 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:44.320 show poster. I heard the lead guys on the Yeah, you. 863 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.719 Kept going like, no nothing, what are you watching? 864 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.119 Exactly? 865 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.159 That was a lie. I just wanted you to tell 866 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.320 that story I was nowhere. I really believe it was 867 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.400 a great story, and I went, kid, oh, now I'm 868 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:02.039 an actor too. 869 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:03.159 I right, exactly. 870 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.920 At a certain point in an actor's career they become 871 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.199 offer only, meaning that they only accept roles that they're 872 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:13.440 offered without having to audition. Are you there yet? 873 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.760 No? I mean there are certain things I think with 874 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:24.039 certain independent movies, well even then I'm not offer only. 875 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.639 But I have had a couple offers come in which 876 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.320 is so incredibly exciting, and that I remember the first 877 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.880 time that happened and I was like, wait, I what 878 00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.199 that's it. I don't have to audition. They just think 879 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.280 I can do it. But no, I think they're always 880 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.199 I mean, you know, if Martin Scorsese or something were 881 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:48.960 to be or I don't know, any of the great 882 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:53.039 directors were to be casting a thing, a beautiful, wonderful 883 00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.000 movie with a great part in it, I think saying 884 00:48:56.119 --> 00:49:00.719 offer only

to some one of those guys would be unwise. 885 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.199 But I know that there are some people who do 886 00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:06.079 say offer only across the board, and I also have 887 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.039 heard that backfliring on a bunch of people, because sometimes 888 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:14.079 even if you're really great, sometimes the role will requires 889 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.039 something that people haven't seen you do before, and so 890 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.679 there's an element of meaning to sort of prove to 891 00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.800 them well, or at least show them this is what 892 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.679 I'm planning to do. Because that there is always an 893 00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:30.119 awkward moment when I've shown up to said on something 894 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.000 that that I have an audition for, where there's this 895 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:39.480 there's this real trust there and I'm so terrified that 896 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.800 I'll you know, do the first scene and I'll go, WHOA, Okay, 897 00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.039 so are you gonna well, that's just rehearsal, You're going 898 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.320 to do it like that? You know. There hasn't been 899 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:54.159 this sort of vetting process where I've been able to say, hey, 900 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.199 this is my audition, this is kind of what I'm 901 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:59.559 gonna do in the show. Are you okay with that? 902 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.119 And they go, yes, you got the part? Or absolutely not. 903 00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:07.320 That's terrible. When you just show up, there's always this 904 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.239 feeling of you know, they've they've really taken a leap 905 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.960 of faith, and you could really disappoint them. 906 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.000 It is a little weird, though your job is a 907 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.239 little weird because it's not like, you know, if you're 908 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.679 a plumber, then you go to somebody's house and they go, well, 909 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.760 let me see you plumb and then I'll decide if 910 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:25.880 I'm going to hire you. That's it's a little weird. 911 00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.400 Yeah, that's true. That is true. I never thought about 912 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:29.960 it that way. 913 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.119 Yeah, let's talk about a family. This is not your family. Well, 914 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.159 it sort of is your family, but it's a family 915 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.920 that's very, very close to you. Can you tell me 916 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:44.559 about Gary, Alan, Wanda, and Dolores and there might even 917 00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.320 be a Steve. I'm not sure about that. 918 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.920 Yeah, there's I know exactly who you're talking about. You're 919 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.360

talking about the Warning family who I've become their what 920 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.840 is it called. The word that's coming into my head 921 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:00.440 is consigliary, But I don't think that's right. I bring 922 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:03.960 them to the world, I translate their lives, I document it, 923 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.480 takes their pictures, and I tell the stories what's happening 924 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.639 to them on my Instagram. They're not real people. They're 925 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:14.280 all just warning signs that I've created little stories for. 926 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:15.719 Give me an example. 927 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:22.480 Oh boy, let's see, I'm trying to think, well, I 928 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.320 have Gary, I have Wanda, I have their son Alan, 929 00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:29.199 and I'm trying to think of a specific example. I 930 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.000 know there's one where Alan was trying to be cool 931 00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.719 in front of a car full of his high school 932 00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.760 teenage friends that are girls that he had crushes on 933 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.280 some of them, and he trips in front of their car, 934 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.280 and he's very embarrassed about that. He locked himself out 935 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.400 of his car one time. There's also Dolores and her 936 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.760 sister Greta, who has had a very sad, intense life 937 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:55.440 that Lauris has tried to make better. They live rich lives. 938 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.760 But I can't remember word for word any of the stories. 939 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:03.679 Thank you for you. They're all on Instagram. Everybody go 940 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:08.639 follow at Jason underscore Ritter on Instagram because his instagram 941 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.199 is one hundred percent full of this. 942 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.360 It's only that. But make sure that if you do that, 943 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.440 to read the captions, because if you just look it 944 00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:20.440 just looks like a bunch of signs. But the captions 945 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.719 are where all the story is. And you look at 946 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:26.760 between your captions, then you you know, you imagine that 947 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.519 that's what's happening in the and then you won't look 948 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:30.920 at a bathroom sign the same way. 949 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.480 Again, yes you won't. For instance, I just pulled one 950 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.519 up right now. This one is from several years ago. 951 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.480 You've been doing this for a while. This one is 952 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:45.039 from April twelfth, twenty fifteen. This is so the picture. 953 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.239 The sign is a man who looks like he's sort 954 00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.679 of halfway between kneeling and standing, and then a woman 955 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.360 who is standing but sort of leaning toward him, extending 956 00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.599 her arm. Ah yeah, and the caption says, every once 957 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.239 in a while Gary will be so charmed and overcome 958 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.920 by something Wanda does or says that he will have 959 00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.800 to stop whatever they're doing, get down on one knee 960 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.119 like he did all those years ago, and tell her 961 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.480 how grateful he is to be in her presence and 962 00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:15.480 all the reasons why he is. Wanda is always appreciative, 963 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:18.440 but she also knows that if they wait too long, 964 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.440 all the good seats will be taken, and if they 965 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.480 have to sit too close to the screen, she'll get 966 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.800 a crick at her neck. This too charms Gary, but seriously, 967 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.280 come on, Gary, get yourself together. You guys are also 968 00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:31.599 gonna want popcorn and it's about to start. 969 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:35.920 Yeah, I love it. 970 00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.719 Thank you well done, sir. So that's the kind of 971 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.840 thing you can look forward to on this gentleman's Instagram, 972 00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:46.480 so don't miss out. And I am under the impression 973 00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.840 that he takes suggestions. You can just message him a 974 00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.800 photo of whatever stick figure people you find around. 975 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.920 That's true, yes, and I will try to incorporate that 976 00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:56.840 into a story. 977 00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:05.760 Rock on. Yeah, I love it. You are welcome. One 978 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.440 of my all time favorite shows was the show Parenthood. Oh, 979 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.800 obviously I was a fan of the film The Great 980 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.679 Great Movie Me too. 981 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.280 Oh my gosh, It's one of my favorites. 982 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.000 But then also there was a TV show called Parenthood 983 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.000 that came out right before your Parenthood that didn't last 984 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.920 very long. It was hilarious, but it was completely unrelated, 985 00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.559 or so it seemed, to the Parenthood TV show that 986 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.280 you were on. Did you know there was another Parenthood. 987 00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.199 I remember hearing about that. It was still it was 988 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.280 still sort of based on the movie, right, or you know, 989 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:44.559 very loosely. Yeah, I remember hearing about that, but I 990 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.280 don't think I

ever saw it. 991 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.199 It would be interesting to go back and see who 992 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.440 some of those actors were, because I'm willing to bet 993 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.679 that they went on to be people we know now. 994 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:53.559 Oh I bet. 995 00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.360 But I loved the TV show and I had lived 996 00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.199 in San Antonio for my entire life, and then my 997 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.519 wife got a really cool job opportunity, so we moved 998 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.320 to Louisville, Kentucky. While we were in Louisville, her job 999 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.360 had her traveling back to Texas. So I was basically 1000 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.519 in Louisville by myself for you know, Monday through Friday 1001 00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.199 or whatever. So that was a little lonely, and parenthood 1002 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:19.199 actually was one of the things that that helped get 1003 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.320 me through because I watched it here in San Antonio 1004 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.119 and then I watched it when I lived in Louisville, 1005 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.199 So it was sort of a little bit of a 1006 00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:28.880 you know, kind of staying in my own routine kind 1007 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.400 of a thing to keep me saying. Yeah, So thank 1008 00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:34.119 you for that. I love I have since moved back 1009 00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.519 to San Antonio. But thank you for being so great 1010 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.000 on that show. You weren't supposed to be a regular 1011 00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:42.639 on the show, were you. No, I'm sure you weren't 1012 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.400 a regular you were or whatever. 1013 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.079 But but yeah, I was. I was. Actually I was 1014 00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.480 only supposed to do three episodes in the first season. 1015 00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:54.280 We did that little arc and then they had me back. Yeah, 1016 00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.360 and then they kept on having me back, and I 1017 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.239 it was such a dream job that it was just 1018 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:03.480 a no brainer for me. But that was one of 1019 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:08.199 the most incredible experiences of my whole life and also 1020 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.559 very lucky to be part of that family. Almost part 1021 00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.639 of that family got into the Christmas picture. It didn't 1022 00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.559 quite make it all the way to the end, but 1023 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.679 it was such a lovely group of people, And to 1024 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.079 get to come into work and be across Lauren Graham 1025 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.239 day after day was just a dream come true. 1026 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:30.400 Now, you played the love interest for Lauren Graham on 1027 00:56:30.440 -->

00:56:35.559 that show, while in real life she was dating Peter Krauser, Yeah, 1028 00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:36.719 who played her brother. 1029 00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:37.159 Ya. 1030 00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:41.760 How uncomfortable was it for you to be pretending or 1031 00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.719 maybe even well I know you weren't really, but how 1032 00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.599 uncomfortable was it for you to be kissing or making 1033 00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:50.280 out with Lauren with Peter standing there giving you the 1034 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.039 evil eye? 1035 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:56.159 It wasn't surprisingly, I mean, because he even he was 1036 00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:59.719 directing episodes by the end, and so for the most part, 1037 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.639 he wasn't around, especially when we were starting out, because 1038 00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:05.840 he would be in a different storyline, so he wouldn't 1039 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.639 even be working that day. I'd see them, you know, 1040 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:11.639 I'd see a bunch of cast members in passing. If 1041 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.880 there was like a big group scene, we would all 1042 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.000 see each other. But for the most part, I was 1043 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.119 just in a little bubble with Lauren, but when he 1044 00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.320 directed an episode, he's just he's a pro, and their 1045 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.239 love for each other is so strong, and so you know, 1046 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:29.920 there was no insecurities. I think he's just as like, 1047 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.880 this is the job, and as a director, he wanted 1048 00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.159 to make it as believable as possible. And Lauren's a 1049 00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.719 pro too, and I'm trying to be a pro as well. 1050 00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:44.440 So that was all very, very normal, because in those 1051 00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:49.519 types of situations, all it takes is one strange energy 1052 00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:56.199 to throw everybody else off and make it weird for everybody. 1053 00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.719 But as long as everybody shows up and is like, 1054 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.159 this is the job and this is normal within the 1055 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.239 context of what we're doing, so let's do it and 1056 00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.960 we'll move on to the next one, it was totally fine. 1057 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.559 So you're saying it was a complete coincidence that every 1058 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:11.719 time you had a love scene, all of a sudden 1059 00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.079 later you had flat tires in the parliament. Think that 1060 00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:15.400 was just a coincidence. 1061 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.719 I know this moment. 1062 00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:23.519 Until this very moment, Son of a bitch, I did 1063 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.880 mention that I'm in San Antonio,

born and raised here, 1064 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:32.320 much like one of your co stars. Actually two of 1065 00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.639 your co stars on two different television shows that you're 1066 00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:42.079 currently working on. Oh really, James rodea is from San Antonio. 1067 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.159 Oh that's right, that's right. 1068 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:46.880 His name is James Rodriguez. 1069 00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:48.320 Yeah. 1070 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.360 We went to school together and bye together. I mean 1071 00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:55.400 at the same time in the same city, thirty miles apart, 1072 00:58:56.519 --> 00:59:00.719 no way. Well, yeah, so clearly we didn't run into 1073 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:04.239 each other. What a coincidence. But and for those listening, 1074 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:09.079 James Rodriguez, I'm sorry, James Rode and Jason are on 1075 00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:12.199 a TV show called A Million Little Things, which is 1076 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:16.280 on ABC. And it's no offense to everybody listening, but 1077 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:18.840 it's the ABC version of This is Us. 1078 00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:23.280 I've heard it described, Yes, I'm sure you have. If 1079 00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:27.119 you want to get the tissues nearby. I think it's 1080 00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.480 why it'll get you. 1081 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.800 Yes, that is true. I've also heard it described as 1082 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:38.840 the diverse This is Us. There you go, But that 1083 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.440 that show is fantastic. Tell me how you became a 1084 00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.119 part of that show if you wouldn't mind. 1085 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.320 Yeah, and then you'll tell me who the second person. 1086 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:47.000 From San Antonio. 1087 00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:49.880 That's correct, okay, just make sure. 1088 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.519 Oh and I would like to say that I'm a 1089 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.360 huge fan of both of these shows that we're going 1090 00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:57.079 to talk about, But go ahead and tell me about 1091 00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:58.400 a million little things. 1092 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.920 Yes, so a million little things came about. I got 1093 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:07.159 a call from DJ Nash. Well, well, it wasn't so 1094 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:08.840 much like that. There were a bunch of calls that 1095 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:13.800 happened before this call happened. But DJ, who created the show, 1096 01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:18.199 called me and basically told me the entire journey of 1097 01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:22.679 this character, of who we think he is when it starts, 1098 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:27.199 who we find him out to be midway through the season, 1099 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:29.880 and then we find out what his true story is 1100 01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:33.880 right at the end. And he's just such

a wonderful person, 1101 01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.840 and he has such an infectious energy, and he cares 1102 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:40.599 about the show so much. It's really truly a passion 1103 01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.559 project for him. He just has put everything into it, 1104 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.840 his whole heart and soul. And so we talked about 1105 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.559 it and he told me this whole evil plan that 1106 01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:55.199 he had to bring me along for. And yeah, after 1107 01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:59.000 that conversation and basically was set and going forward, and 1108 01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:03.000 then he carried out this diabolical together. 1109 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:05.960 I will say that you know, we were watching that 1110 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.079 show long before you showed up, and when you showed up, 1111 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:11.719 the way that they introduced your character. I know they 1112 01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:13.760 did it on purpose, but my wife and I looked 1113 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.119 at each other and said, oh my god, Jason's going 1114 01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:16.880 to be typecast. 1115 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:19.440 Oh because they think I'm dating. 1116 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:24.639 A Yes, no spoilers, but yes, yes. So when DJ 1117 01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.239 Jazzy Nash called you up and showed you this arc, 1118 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.039 did you know how the like? Did you know the 1119 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.440 full arc before you before you started? 1120 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:35.039 Yes? 1121 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.039 Interesting, It was. 1122 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:41.679 Very important to him. He doesn't give the information to 1123 01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:46.639 everybody in the show. He likes that the actors are 1124 01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.760 sort of on this journey with everyone's But because I'm 1125 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:53.440 playing this character and he, you know, he thinks I 1126 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.039 should know what my character knows so that it doesn't 1127 01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:59.199 come as a surprise to me at the end. Yeah. 1128 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.760 He he told me from the very beginning, and so 1129 01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:08.079 for months I had this big secrets that I couldn't tell. 1130 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.880 The lucky thing was because you initially think I'm dating 1131 01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.000 that character and then you find out there's more to 1132 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:18.199 my story. Most of the other actors were like, Oh, 1133 01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:21.079 that's the big reveal, that's the big secret, and then 1134 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.119 I was sort of sort of off the hook for 1135 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:27.519 a while. Yeah, this was the last couple episodes and 1136 01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.280 I was back to sweating and hiding and trying not 1137 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.400 to reveal anything to anybody. 1138 01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:34.840 Now you can say you don't know, or you can 1139 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.159 just say you don't want to answer. But are you 1140 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.559 done with that show? 1141 01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.760 I'm not in the rest of this season, and I 1142 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.880 think I can say becaus DJ tweeted about it. But 1143 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.800 you know, depending on some scheduling things. Both DJ and 1144 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.480 I would our game to keep going with the character. 1145 01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.039 So I don't know what his plan would be for 1146 01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:59.360 season three, but it depends on a bunch of things. 1147 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.559 And you know, Netflix was very kind and even though 1148 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:04.679 raising Dion's been picked up to let me do that 1149 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.320 arc on a million little things and you know, you 1150 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.639 just you never know how it all works out, but yeah, 1151 01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:13.639 it would be great. It was such a wonderful group 1152 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:17.360 of people, Alison and James and just everyone who works 1153 01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:18.199 on that show is so. 1154 01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:21.119 Lovely, well, very very cool. 1155 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.679 Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors. 1156 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.119 Guess what, street Walkers, The gear is here. A bunch 1157 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.480 of you been asking for quite some time and now 1158 01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.320 finally it's here. 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For these dope 1167 01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.679 drum beats, check out Steve's work at O'Reilly Drums on 1168 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:17.360 Instagram or search Steven O'Reilly on YouTube. 1169 01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:18.960 Let's get back into it. 1170 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:24.559 I did mention that there was somebody else that you 1171 01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:28.320 are on a show with currently who is from San 1172 01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:32.119 Antonio and still currently lives here. You are on a 1173 01:04:32.159

--> 01:04:34.199 show called Raising Dion. 1174 01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:35.159 Yes. 1175 01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:39.920 I had never heard of this show, I guess because 1176 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.280 Netflix didn't think that that would be something that would 1177 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.599 appeal to me. But because I follow you and you 1178 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.199 kept talking about it, I was like, what the hell 1179 01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:52.599 is he talking about? And so my wife I was like, honey, 1180 01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:54.280 we got to check this out. Let's just at least 1181 01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:56.000 give it a shot. We have a rule in our 1182 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.199 house that we have to watch the pilot plus. 1183 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.159 One's a great rule. 1184 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:03.559 Yeah, the pilots are away slow because they have to 1185 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:06.880 introduce characters and have to introduce the storylines and yeah, 1186 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.320 build a world. So we always give it at least 1187 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.599 two and so we were like, all right, cool, well 1188 01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:14.960 we'll give it too, and then we binge watch the 1189 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.119 entire series season one. 1190 01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:22.760 Yes, that makes me so happy. I know it gets 1191 01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:24.239 hard to stop there towards the end. 1192 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:32.559 Especially Holy shit, I think is what I tweeted at you. Yeah, 1193 01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.079 it is amazing. I can't stop telling everybody to watch it. 1194 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:42.000 It is phenomenal. I do know that there's gonna be 1195 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.320 a second season, so I'm very excited about that and 1196 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:48.239 very curious how that's gonna play me. But the person 1197 01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.880 who lives in San Antonio plays I believe her name 1198 01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:53.320 is es Morelda. 1199 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:57.880 Esperanza, although at a certain point the reason that my 1200 01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.239 character says as Morelda is because in the writer's room, 1201 01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:04.760 apparently people kept on making that miss. It's like our 1202 01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:08.119 brains are wired in some way where that is a 1203 01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.280 very common And I even did it sincerely as well, 1204 01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:13.280 is what I was supposed to do in the thing. 1205 01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.480 But it's just funny that you say Esma. Yeah. Oh, 1206 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:23.920 Sammy Haney, she is such a treasure. Oh my goodness. 1207 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:25.199 She's great on that show. 1208 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.039 By the way, she is so funny and she's she's 1209 01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:32.719 so great on the show. She just recently I retweeted it, 1210 01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:35.599 but she and two of the and Jazi and Gavin, 1211 01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.639 they like, did a homemade promo for Raising Dion. They 1212 01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.480 just shot at themselves and Sammy, Sammy's dad edited it 1213 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:47.360 all together and it was like their own advertising thing. 1214 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:49.960 They're like, we don't need the actual PR firm, We'll 1215 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.519 just make our commercial for Very Sweet. 1216 01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.760 That is fantastic. So there will be a season two 1217 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:57.320 and I'm very excited about that. 1218 01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:58.719 Yes, exactly. 1219 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.119 Tell me what it's like to on that show. Had 1220 01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.400 you ever heard of the because it's from a comic book, right, it. 1221 01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.559 Is from a comic book. Yeah. I I hadn't heard 1222 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:12.000 of it before, but then I did. Actually remember someone 1223 01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.639 had forwarded or retweeted the short into my feed a 1224 01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:19.880 while ago, and then I remember, and I remember liking 1225 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.679 that and that was the creator of it. Basically he 1226 01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:26.559 was trying to show what the show would be like. Yeah, 1227 01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.320 and I thought that was just so beautiful and so 1228 01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:32.000 well done and it is so much fun to work on, 1229 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.559 almost too much fun fun. Yeah, I'm sort of sad 1230 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:37.880 because I feel like the second season will it'll be 1231 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.079 a totally different experience for me. I had so much 1232 01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.159 fun with Alicia and Jasi in the first season, and 1233 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.320 I have no idea how often I'll like where, you know, 1234 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:52.280 where our story lives go on the second season. Jasi 1235 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:55.880 and I would really kind of hide each other up 1236 01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.119 and get super excited and get real high energy, and 1237 01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.119 then uh, you know, we try to reel it back 1238 01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.960 in for the takes and with their degrees of success. 1239 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.159 But yeah, there were many times where I would, you know, 1240 01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:13.719 decide to play the game with Jesi and he would 1241 01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:17.079 be throwing fireballs at me and I'd be dodging and going, oh, oh, 1242 01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.720 you got me, and then I'd be time to shoot, 1243 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.119 and they just say, well, just that's fine, but Jason, 1244 01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:30.159 you are profusely sweating. Takes a set of dry off 1245 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.880 your shirt and dry off your face. Your hair

now 1246 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:36.159 is like wet and down, and I'm like, oh, sorry, 1247 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.960 I guess I can't just run around like I like 1248 01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:40.520 I used to. 1249 01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:43.920 That is huh hilarious, But it was. 1250 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:47.319 It's so much fun. Yeah, it was so much fun. 1251 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:48.920 I can't wait to go back. 1252 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:50.600 Yeah, my wife and I can't wait for you to 1253 01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:52.039 go back either. We love that show. 1254 01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:53.760 Thank you now. 1255 01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:55.920 I would be remiss if I didn't at least bring 1256 01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:03.560 up Gravity Falls. Oh, gravity is approaching cult status. How 1257 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:04.439 do you feel about that? 1258 01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:09.279 I love that. I love that people are incredibly into it. 1259 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:13.960 I myself am incredibly into it. Much like Kevin probably says, 1260 01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.800 the world felt like a personal gift for me for 1261 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.680 my own enjoyment. Gravity Falls also felt like that. I 1262 01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.800 was like, this is my dream show. I am incredibly 1263 01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:32.079 into codes and incredibly into secrets and going down in 1264 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:37.119 rabbit holes and strange supernatural things. And Alex Hershuh created 1265 01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:39.880 the show, and he knew that I loved all the mysteries, 1266 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.199 and he would drop little hints while we were recording. 1267 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.479 I would go home and try to research and figure 1268 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:47.640 it out and try to crack the code. So I'm 1269 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.720 very excited that it seems like some people have caught 1270 01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:54.000 up to my level of obsession with it, because there's 1271 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.000 definitely been a few times where someone's coming and saying, oh, 1272 01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:58.840 my kid really likes Gravity Falls, Like go, oh, I 1273 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.199 have you notice that you know, there's the second season. 1274 01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:03.960 There's a keyword that's in the back of the background. 1275 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:06.439 You put that and you plug that into the code 1276 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:08.319 at the end and you can figure out. And they're like, 1277 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:10.840 I just like the characters and I think it's funny. 1278 01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:16.239 I'm like, oh, sorry, I got too far into it. 1279 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.640 You gotta remember people enjoy it on different levels. But 1280 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.319 I'm super super deep into it. 1281 01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:24.880 Girl, Oh sorry, I went to nerd. 1282 01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.520 Yeah, on my own show.

It's very embarrassing when that happens. 1283 01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.239 But on the flip side, it's it's exciting when I 1284 01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:37.000 find someone who also shares my great love for it. 1285 01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:40.760 Very cool. Now, you have been in quite a few 1286 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.199 episodes of Drunk History and even some of the original 1287 01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.399 shorts for Drunk History. Can you tell me why? And 1288 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:51.720 also where were some of those first ones filmed? And why? 1289 01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:58.239 So? The show is created by Derrek Waters and Jeremy 1290 01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:01.159 Connor and initially direct to them and sort of created 1291 01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.039 the whole sort of look and idea of the show. 1292 01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.880 The two of them together are the geniuses behind it. 1293 01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:10.680 And Derek I've known for several years just in a 1294 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:14.720 sort of the improv and sketch comedy Los Angeles World. 1295 01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.960 He and Simon were in a group together for a while, 1296 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.239 but Jeremy I have known since we were six. We 1297 01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.840 were in kindergarten together. He and I were the two 1298 01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:28.119 guys who dreamt of being stuntman, and we would he 1299 01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:30.319 broke my arm at one point, we would just go 1300 01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:34.520 outside and get injured and feel invigorated by it. And 1301 01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:37.600 so when Derek had this idea and Jeremy and he 1302 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.680 decided to shoot it, they were always kind of looking 1303 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:42.720 for locations because it was just something they were putting 1304 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:46.039 up on YouTube to make themselves laugh and see if 1305 01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.680 people responded to it. And so aside from the first 1306 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:55.279 one one with Michael Sarah, the other first internet ones 1307 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.880 were all shot at my mom's house. The reenactment. Not 1308 01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:01.880 the drunk people, the drug people, all that stuff was 1309 01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.640 shot at their own apartments or their houses where they 1310 01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.079 could vomit in peace. But all the reenactments were shot 1311 01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:10.800 at at my mom's house. And it's because that's where 1312 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.680 Jeremy and I grew up breaking stuff like my arms 1313 01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:19.279 and things like that. So we've been close for years 1314 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:22.560 and years and years. And he's also such an incredible guy, 1315 01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:29.760 and I'm just so incredibly impressed by what they've done, 1316 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:34.760 like that they took a funny idea

and they've created 1317 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:41.840 this huge show that's international and that's funny and award 1318 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:47.039 winning and it's just I'm so proud. And it was 1319 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.319 exciting to see it like from the very beginning and 1320 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:52.760 then see it grow and grow and grow. 1321 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:56.199 Well, you should be proud to have been a part 1322 01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:58.359 of it and to help kick started and all of that. 1323 01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:01.720 It's a great show that is going to go down, 1324 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:06.000 oddly enough in non drunk history. That's one of the greats. 1325 01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:06.960 Exactly. 1326 01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:10.920 Oh yeah, it's incredible. And I think because we're all friends. 1327 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:13.960 I think in almost every season, if I'm in town, 1328 01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:16.560 I'll get a call from Derek Jeremy and say, hey, 1329 01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:19.720 can you come in next week and play this other 1330 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:26.279 this new character. And it's just such a fun, wonderful job. 1331 01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:26.960 Very cool. 1332 01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:29.479 I also get to live out my fantasies of being 1333 01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:31.159 able to grow a full beard on that show. 1334 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.399 You know, that's funny. I wasn't going to mention it, 1335 01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:35.680 but in high school you did a play where they 1336 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:37.439 had to, you know, burn a cork and rub it 1337 01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:39.039 all over your face to get a beard. I think 1338 01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:42.760 you were like seventeen, how old are you now? And 1339 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:43.960 can you grow a beard? 1340 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:51.000 Yet not fully, it doesn't all connect. I have some 1341 01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:56.119 areas that are pretty strong and other areas where nothing grows. 1342 01:13:56.279 --> 01:14:01.079 It's just a little desert. So I keep that burnt 1343 01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:02.920 cork around just in case I need to sell in 1344 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:04.520 some of those spots. 1345 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:08.079 Now, there are some actors where I will see anything 1346 01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:10.600 they ever do, and you are one of those actors. 1347 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.199 I'm embarrassed that you have such a breadth of work 1348 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:17.079 that I was unaware of. So I've got a lot 1349 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.920 of stuff to catch up on. But can you tell me, like, 1350 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:24.520 what is a project that maybe tons of people don't 1351 01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:27.319 know about that is one of your favorites that you've done. 1352 01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:32.000 Oh boy, I did a movie called Peter and Vandy 1353 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.439 that I am really proud of. It was written and 1354 01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:39.680 directed by Jada Pihro, and it was based on a 1355 01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:41.800 play that he had written and he had performed in 1356 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:44.880 and he turned it into a movie. And the dialogue 1357 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:48.199 was just so He's just has such a good year 1358 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:52.000 for dialogue, And it was such a beautiful script about 1359 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:56.720 dysfunctional relationship or or functional depending on how you look 1360 01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:58.720 at it. That was one of the interesting things. We 1361 01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:01.359 go to film festivals and people like they should break 1362 01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:03.920 up immediately, they're horrible for each other, and other people like, 1363 01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:05.840 that's me and my husband and we love each other 1364 01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.680 so much. But you know, it's complicated sometimes it was. 1365 01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:10.720 It's one of those movies where you kind of you know, 1366 01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:13.319 just it is what it is, and you people have 1367 01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.000 different reactions to it. But I just thought it was 1368 01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:20.000 so beautifully put together. So it's basically a love story 1369 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.600 sort of told out of order. And yeah, I'm I'm 1370 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:25.359 really proud of that one. 1371 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:28.600 And hit the name of that one again so everybody 1372 01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:29.279 can go find it. 1373 01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.800 That one's called Peter and Vandy. 1374 01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:34.000 Okay, cool that one. 1375 01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:37.720 And just to rattle off a couple others that I'm 1376 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:41.119 proud of, a Bag of Hammers, Education at Charlie Banks. 1377 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:45.319 And then the two that I did with Marianna Pauca 1378 01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:49.239 good Dick was called One and Bitch. They're both very 1379 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:56.720 strange movies, but I'm really proud of both of them. 1380 01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:59.720 Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors. 1381 01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.640 Hey guys, if you like what I'm doing, click the 1382 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:05.079 Amazon banner at the top of the home page. On 1383 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:08.079 Fascination streetpod dot com and do all of your shopping 1384 01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.720 through Amazon. Once you click on it and it takes 1385 01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:13.399 you to Amazon, you can bookmarket or add it to 1386 01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.159 your favorites and you won't have to go to my 1387 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:17.720 site each time. It helps me keep the show going. 1388 01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:19.439 And again thanks for listening. 1389 01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:23.199 Hey, hell, are you interested in getting

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Dot Detroit Bikes dot. 1400 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:20.439 Com, double Dublin dot Detroit Bikes dot com. 1401 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:20.960 Practice. 1402 01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:25.000 Let's get back into it. 1403 01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:31.560 Well, I'm glad that you brought up Maryannapaca because I 1404 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:34.800 want to talk about a documentary that she did and 1405 01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:38.520 you were a part of the Lion's Mouth Opens Yeah. 1406 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:40.960 My wife and I watched that over the weekend and 1407 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:50.520 it was engaging, heartbreaking and endearing. Yes, I would like 1408 01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:54.880 you to tell if you can. I'm sure it's tough, 1409 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:57.840 but can you tell everybody about this short documentary. 1410 01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:03.920 Yes. It's basically follows Marianna Palka, who's a writer, director, actor, 1411 01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:09.680 through her decision to get tested to find out whether 1412 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:15.039 she has the Huntington's disease gene or not. Huntington's disease 1413 01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:20.000 is a genetic disorder that basically you inherit from a parent, 1414 01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:25.560 So Marianna's father had Huntington's disease, and it's a it's 1415 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:31.520 a truly awful and cruel disease that is sort of 1416 01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:37.439 described as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's kind of mixed into want it. 1417 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:42.000 It attacks your body, it attacks your mind. You know 1418 01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:47.239 eventually it will contribute to ending your life early. But 1419 01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:52.359 it's incredibly gradual and incredibly painful for the family to 1420 01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:55.439 watch their loved one transform and it's it's awful and 1421 01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:59.079 it's it's one of my life goals to eradicate it 1422 01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:02.720 from this play in It forever. But one of the 1423 01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:06.359 great advances that that has been made in the Huntington's 1424 01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:10.279 disease world in the last twenty thirty years is that 1425 01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:13.000 they found out what the gene is, which is a 1426 01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:15.239 huge win because now they can they're trying to figure 1427 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.720 out how to treat it and all that stuff, but 1428 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:19.640 they figured out what the gene is. So there was 1429 01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:22.039 this test that's been around for years and years that 1430 01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.279 you can find out if you have it, in which 1431 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:27.359 case you would be able to pass it down to 1432 01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:31.039 your children, or you don't have it, in which case 1433 01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:33.600 your branch of the family is completely It doesn't lie 1434 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:37.600 dormant in anybody. You either have the gene, in which 1435 01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:40.399 case you will become symptomatic and you could pass it down, 1436 01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:42.720 or you got the gene from your non hunting Tints 1437 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.800 disease parent, and everybody in your family is not at 1438 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:49.239 risk for developing it later. But because there are treatments 1439 01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:52.039 but they're not here's a lot of people. You know, 1440 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.520 it's a complicated decision to find out if you have 1441 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.079 it or if you don't have it. You know, everyone 1442 01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:00.159 would love to find out that they don't have it. 1443 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.039 But because it's not like, oh, you find out you 1444 01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:04.439 can have it, and now you can get rid of 1445 01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.560 it or treat it or something like that. It's it's 1446 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:08.720 an intense decision for a lot of people to make. 1447 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:12.680 But as they've made more and more advances and have 1448 01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:15.840 gotten more exciting treatments and things, people are a little 1449 01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.399 bit more open to going and getting tested. But sorry, 1450 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:22.199 I'm going off into the weeds. The movie is just 1451 01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:26.239 literally takes place over maybe three days or something of 1452 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.199 Marianna just making the decision to go get tested and 1453 01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:32.760 finding out once and for all whether she has it 1454 01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:35.199 or whether she doesn't have it, and all of her 1455 01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:40.119 friends have come together and to support her in, you know, 1456 01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:42.439 finding out whichever thing is. It's something that's been hanging 1457 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.760 over her head, you know, since the late eighties, not 1458 01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:48.760 knowing whether

she had it or not. So Marianna made 1459 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.279 the decision to film it all and it's caused a 1460 01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.159 lot of people to learn about Huntington's disease. And I 1461 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:59.239 didn't know about hunting disease really until I met her, 1462 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:04.119 so any awareness about it is wonderful. I just, you know, 1463 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:07.479 I want everybody to get together and squash it. 1464 01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:12.800 Well. I agree. Also in that documentary was Bryce Dallas Howard. 1465 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.039 I guess y'all are all a little group of friends. 1466 01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:17.680 Y'all all went to school together. Maybe. 1467 01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:22.319 Yeah, I've known Bryce since we were kids. My mom 1468 01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:27.079 was in Ron Howard's first his directorial debut, a movie 1469 01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:28.239 called Grand Theft Auto. 1470 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:29.479 Yes, that's true. 1471 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:31.760 So they knew each other. And then when Ron was 1472 01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:33.800 on you know, Happy Days and my dad was on 1473 01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:37.640 Three's Company around the same time, they all became friends 1474 01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:39.479 and would hang out, and I would hang out with 1475 01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:42.960 Bryce and her sisters and brother, and then we sort 1476 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.960 of lost touch, and Bryce and I kind of reconnected 1477 01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:50.479 in college, and she and Marianna became best friends and 1478 01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:54.000 are still very close to this day. She's a lovely 1479 01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:57.960 person and is so supportive of Marianna, and it was 1480 01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:01.039 a great ally to have in her corner. 1481 01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.960 I had the so I'm friends with Clint Howard. Yeah, 1482 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:12.920 And I had the wonderful opportunity to not only interviewed Clint, 1483 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:18.319 but interviewed Rance, Clint and Ron's father. It was actually 1484 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:22.640 the last long form interview he did before he passed. Wow, 1485 01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:25.560 he was such a great guy to meet, and I 1486 01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:28.159 got to talk to him sitting at his breakfast table 1487 01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:30.520 in that house where he raised those kids. But that 1488 01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:33.159 was super sweet. But what I was gonna say was, 1489 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.840 I'm sure you're still friends with Bryce. And I don't 1490 01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:38.800 know if you have seen it, but she made a 1491 01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.880 short film. I can't remember what it's called, but it's 1492 01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:47.239 sort of about shoes or feet. Have you seen it? 1493 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.840 Oh? Yes, I haven't seen it yet, but no, I 1494 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:52.560 gotta check it out. I gotta find it. 1495 01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:59.000 She played it at Rance's memorial and it is phenomenal. 1496 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:02.359 You should definitely out and see if she'll let you 1497 01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:05.199 watch it, because it's great. It is really really good, 1498 01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:06.399 and I highly recommend it. 1499 01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:10.039 She is so talented it's insane. Yeah, I would love 1500 01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:11.000 to see that. 1501 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.520 That family is fantastic. Oh yeah, her and you have 1502 01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:17.600 that same thing in common, third generation Hollywood. 1503 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:19.199 Yeah, yes, exactly. 1504 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:20.319 Oh that's funny. 1505 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:25.840 Yeah. And Rance, I can't remember if he met Text 1506 01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:30.039 or new Text, but definitely Bryce has told me on 1507 01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:32.760 a couple of occasions that Rance was a fan of 1508 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.119 Text and one of the reasons Rance wanted to move 1509 01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:37.840 and become an actor and do this whole thing was 1510 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:40.760 because of that. And so you know, her family and 1511 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:44.960 my family have been sort of intertwined for several generations now. 1512 01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:46.039 And that's really cool. 1513 01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:47.600 Yeah, that's interesting. 1514 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:52.159 I think that's dope. Yeah, I have kept you for 1515 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:55.319 a really long time and I really really appreciate it. 1516 01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:56.359 Thank you so much. Jason. 1517 01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:57.479 Oh, absolutely. 1518 01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:02.000 Two quick questions before we go. Yeah, when you get 1519 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.399 off of the phone and you go, I'm going to 1520 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:07.760 assume that y'all are still engaged. You and Melanie, Yes, 1521 01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.600 oh absolutely, Yeah, I mean as opposed to married, is 1522 01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:13.720 what I really meant. Oh, yes, yeah, Okay, So when 1523 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:16.680 you get off the phone, when you please, please, please 1524 01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:21.399 please tell your fiance Melanie Lynsky that Heavenly Creatures is 1525 01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:25.760 one of the greatest film debuts I've ever seen. 1526 01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:32.079 I absolutely will and I completely agree. Yeah. I mean, 1527 01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:34.680 not only is that such a beautiful movie, but her 1528 01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:39.119 performance is so sweet and beautiful in it. And I 1529 01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:43.680 came to that movie late. I already knew her by 1530 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.439 the time I saw it, and so to see her 1531 01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:51.399 so little and so

young and so talented already, I 1532 01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:55.840 just it was so beautiful to see. I feel very lucky. 1533 01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:58.239 Well, the way I came to it was do you 1534 01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.960 remember I told you that I was Watchingarenthood after I 1535 01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:05.399 moved to Louisville, Kentucky. Yeah, Well, I was watching Parenthood 1536 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:09.640 and as I occasionally do while I'm watching a television perrogram, 1537 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:11.880 I will just do a deep dive on one of 1538 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.800 the actors or actresses or something. And I happened to 1539 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:19.640 do that deep dive on you that day and then 1540 01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:23.039 it and it said that your partner was Melanie Lynsky, 1541 01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:25.159 and I was like, why does that name sound familiar? 1542 01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:27.800 And then I looked at what she did and I 1543 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:29.720 was like, oh, I want to check out Beautiful Creatures. 1544 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:34.439 Let's go check that out, and I mean Heavenly Creatures. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1545 01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:37.479 And so that that's how I found that that movie was, 1546 01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:40.800 you know, through I guess stalking you. 1547 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:46.000 That's so awesome though, that makes me so happy. Yeah, 1548 01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:48.520 that's probably around the same time that I saw that 1549 01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:51.800 movie Nice a couple of years ago. Yeah, but yeah, 1550 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:54.479 I mean it really holds up. It's so intense and 1551 01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:57.399 tragic and beautiful and oh boy. 1552 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:02.079 Yeah there's some twists. And for those listening who aren't 1553 01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:05.399 familiar with it, this is directed by Peter Jackson. Yes, 1554 01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:09.039 that Peter Jackson before he was that Peter Jackson. So 1555 01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:10.279 go check that out exactly. 1556 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:14.359 It's beautiful, it's heavenly. 1557 01:26:17.159 --> 01:26:19.359 So how is it being a daddy. 1558 01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:26.760 It's incredible. I mean, Melanie is the loveliest partner and 1559 01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:31.880 mother you could ever imagine. She's just such a dream 1560 01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:37.000 come true. And our little daughter is so weird and 1561 01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:41.760 so funny, and you know, it's been so exciting to 1562 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:46.319 watch her learn and pick up on things. And she's 1563 01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:51.479 very good at animal sounds and not very good at 1564 01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:52.359 sleeping through the night. 1565 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:56.079 But how about the baby. You're telling me about Melanie. 1566 01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:57.560 How about the baby? What's she like? 1567 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:04.199 I also could make some man, I'm really in love. 1568 01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:09.520 She's just such an incredible little baby, and I really 1569 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:14.359 love being a dad. I almost can't remember what I 1570 01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.760 was doing before. I was like, I had more time 1571 01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:20.960 to just I guess I was just on Twitter quite 1572 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:22.960 a lot, or making vines. I guess I was making 1573 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:24.239 a lot more Fine. 1574 01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:26.520 That's why they shut vine down so you can have a. 1575 01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:30.680 Baby, exactly exactly. They're like, this guy needs to focus, 1576 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.000 and he's spending way too much time messing up his 1577 01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:41.079 hair on Vine. But no, it feels like such a 1578 01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:45.279 incredible time right now, and I feel so grateful for 1579 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:46.239 every second. 1580 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:50.399 The fun only continues. My kids are twenty seven and 1581 01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:51.000 twenty eight. 1582 01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:52.880 Amazing, It's just. 1583 01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:54.920 So much fun to watch them grow and help them 1584 01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:57.720 make the same mistakes you made over and over again. 1585 01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:02.359 Exactly. Yeah, I can out wait. 1586 01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:05.560 It's the greatest thing I've ever done. So enjoy it 1587 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.640 and be a part of it because it's it's super fantastic. 1588 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:11.960 Jason Ritter, can you tell everybody where they can find 1589 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:13.239 you on social media? Please? 1590 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:18.600 Yes? On Instagram you can find me at Jason Underscore 1591 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:23.680 Ritter and on Twitter at Jason Ritter just all one 1592 01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:28.479 word and you can't find me online anymore a race. 1593 01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:31.720 So those are the only two really that I go 1594 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:35.680 on Twitter and Instagram. So but I'm I'm there. I 1595 01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:38.920 do a lot more reading than posting these days, but 1596 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.479 I'm I'll get back into it, but I'll see it. 1597 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:42.600 If you say something to. 1598 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:46.079 Me, Well, everybody reach out to Jason. He does talk back. 1599 01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:48.720 He doesn't talk smack, but he does talk back. He says, 1600 01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:52.199 he says what's he answers questions. He's very friendly. And 1601 01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:55.159 then also check out his feet because every once in 1602 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:57.960 a while he'll be like, oh, is everybody watching this 1603 01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:00.479 new show I'm doing that Steve's never heard of. And 1604 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:02.119 then I'll be like, what is this? And then you 1605 01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.279 check it out and it's amazing. Thanks so paytention for 1606 01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:10.479 cool tips like that. Definitely, Jason Ritter, thank you so 1607 01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:12.920 much for taking the time out of your crazy busy dad. 1608 01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.520 This took a long time to get scheduled, but thank 1609 01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:17.520 you so much for hanging in there and we finally 1610 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:18.239 got this done. 1611 01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.960 Thank you. Thanks for your patience. It was we were 1612 01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:26.439 so close a couple of times. I'm happy that we 1613 01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:28.880 actually got it done. I almost texted you today like, 1614 01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:30.920 I'm sorry, I gotta be scheduled. 1615 01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:31.479 Just to. 1616 01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:39.399 Huh hilarious. I would have cried. I would have cried. 1617 01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.000 Well again, thank you so much, man, and I'll let 1618 01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.520 you know when this comes out perfect. Actually, this was 1619 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.399 so long I might even split it into. 1620 01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:51.359 Two cool yeah. 1621 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:54.399 But again, man, thank you so much. I really really 1622 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:55.079 appreciate it. 1623 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:57.199 Absolutely, that was great talking to you. 1624 01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:58.760 Thanks Jason, have a good day man. 1625 01:29:58.760 --> 01:29:59.600 You too. Take care. 1626 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:07.239 As always, thanks for listening, Street Walkers, and don't forget 1627 01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:13.199 follow the show on Twitter at Fascination STPD, on Instagram 1628 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:18.279 at Fascination Street Pod, follow the podcast page on Facebook 1629 01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:22.199 at Fascination Street Podcast, and of course you can always 1630 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:26.439 email me at Fascination Streetpod at gmail dot com, and 1631 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.239 if you haven't already, don't forget to hit the like 1632 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:31.880 and subscribe button and rate us on iTunes. 1633 01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:38.279 Opening music is the song Magnolia from the twenty fourteen 1634 01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:44.239 album In Transigence US with permission from Douglas Miley Clark. 1635 01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:50.000 Closing music is Apollo from the two thousand and one 1636 01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:56.000 album Into the Known by the band Sapphire. Thanks for 1637 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:58.199 hanging out with us and getting to know a little 1638 01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:06.640 bit about our guest was seen like stand on Fascination Street.