บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ MLB LEGEND BILLY SAMPLE

00:04:21.480 easier to be happy once you have more stuff and 77 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:24.560 ability to do things and travel and whatnot. So yeah, 78 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:25.959 it builds a lot of character. 79 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.199 Yeah, I'm trying to remember it was. It was so 80 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:34.959 so short lived that I had money even in the 81 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.519 major leagues, and see the minor league salaries. Let me 82 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:40.399 think it was six hundred dollars a month my first year, 83 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:45.319 seven fifty a month my second year. This is seasonal job, 84 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.439 of course, uh And seven fifty was the lowest I 85 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:50.279 could get out of Double A. In fact, I was 86 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:53.319 so marginal making the Double A team that I had 87 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:56.120 to carry my manager's golf equipment and my car from 88 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:03.160 from Planned City, Florida to Tall But it was good, 89 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.839 I guess you guys remember Roy Clark, the country music 90 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.560 singer and banjo guitar player, he was one of our owners. 91 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.079 So that was kind of cool because Roy would come out. Yeah, 92 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.800 he'd come out and takes him infield every once in 93 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.279 a while. He said that he was scouted by the 94 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.720 Saint Louis Browns in the nineteen forties, and I could 95 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.800 see he has some athleticism about him. I could see that, 96 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.720 and not only with Roy, but as I got to 97 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.680 the majors, Charlie Pride would come down in spring training 98 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.600 and take some swings. And Charlie had played in the 99 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:39.240 Negro leagues back in the nineteen fifties, and he was 100 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.000 still a pretty good line drive hitter in his mid 101 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:47.120 to late forties. So it's kind of nice to interact 102 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.920 with some of the people that are fellow entertainers and 103 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:55.879 have achieved things that a lot of people are appreciative 104 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.079 of or maybe even envious of. So was mister Clark, 105 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:05.160 because on TV, it's just like everybody's buddy, Oh my 106 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:10.839 goodness is yeah, yeah, And it seemed that way too, 107 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:15.040 although I think one time Roy it was we were 108 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.920 two days left in the season and Roy had come 109 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.120 out and as I said, he would take infield and 110 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:24.800 take some batting practice, and he had a commitment on 111 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:28.000 the final day of the year at home, and everybody 112 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:31.439 was just going to play. The trainer was going to play. 113 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:37.560 It didn't matter. And so y Rory had he came out. 114 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:39.600 He knew that there was a time where he could play, 115 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.800 but he missed, uh interpreted the day that he could play, 116 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.480 and he thought it was the day that he was 117 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.399 ready to walk up to the plate. And Roy had 118 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.519 grabbed a bat and I think the collective arms of 119 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:55.360 our team just grabbed his shoulder and set him back 120 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.519 down and said, no, no, right, no, that's mon. Bear 121 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.120 Gear out there ninety eight miles an hour on the 122 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.360 slogan back in the day and in the subse subsequent year, 123 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:10.319 I think Bearing Gear broke somebody's wrist and broke somebody's jaw. No, 124 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.079 we want to make sure they're picking and Brinning stays 125 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:17.920 in the same sentence. So you just sit here, you 126 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:24.879 just you just sit your up down. Yeah, And Bearing 127 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.519 Gear was knocking me down with that. They were trying 128 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.519 to pitch me inside and the Mets had great pitching anyway. 129 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.560 Then John Pissella and Bear and Gear and a couple 130 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:37.000 other guys, Mike Scott, they all double a pitching was 131 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:40.439 just outstanding that year, and I asked my teammates, who 132 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:42.160 had played minor league ball a little bit more than 133 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:43.920 I had. I said, well, no, what should I do. 134 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.639 I know he's not trying to knock me down. Well, 135 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.480 maybe he's trying to knock me down, but I'm getting 136 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:51.240 a little tired of it. And they said, well, go 137 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.600 get him, like charge him in and go get him. 138 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.639 And I thought, well, he's built bigger than I am. 139 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.560 Let's say I go out there and get a couple 140 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.399 of punches. At some point, I'm still gonna have to play, 141 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:11.879 and now he's got to read he may not miss 142 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:18.920 this time. So I finally, just out of nowhere, I 143 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.279 walked through to the plate and Stan Huff was a 144 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.959 catcher out of Baylor University, and I said, man, I'm 145 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:26.879 tired of going on my ass every time I came 146 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.519 to the plate. And he was almost apologetic. Oh no, no, 147

00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.759 because I guess he figured out. But even he knew 148 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.039 that it was going on a little bit too much, 149 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.360 and he thought, well, somebody might retaliate, and I guess 150 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:44.600 it's just going to go down the catcher, So we're okay. 151 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:46.879 I just didn't want to get you were trying to 152 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:49.799 make a living and get up to a certain point 153 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.320 and I couldn't really take a year off and getting 154 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:57.840 hit in the face. So that's settled, all right. But yeah, 155 00:08:57.879 --> 00:08:59.919 but but it was funny. Roy was kind of he 156 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.600 grabbed it bat and I said, no, no, no, no, 157 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:06.360 no no, you said yourself down. We're gonna make sure 158 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:10.039 that everybody enjoys your banjo playing and your guitar playing. 159 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.120 In fact, I think one time somebody asked Jimmy Hendricks, 160 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.120 what is what it's like being the greatest guitar player? 161 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:23.679 And Clark he was amazing. Yeah you heard it, Yeah 162 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:31.399 you heard right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was fun. 163 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.720 It was good. And I've run across a handful of 164 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:40.759 other entertainers too over the years, BJ Thomas, I think 165 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.559 of so many other people you go through, especially in 166 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.440 Dallas and times when I was with the Angels too, 167 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.200 you'd run through a number of a number of people 168 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:53.559 who have achieved an entertainment status and and so it's 169 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:54.759 always nice to kind of run it. 170 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.759 Did you have a favorite, like a favorite. 171 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.759 Bruce Horns? Well, I knew Bruce a little bit from Virginia, 172 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:02.000 But did. 173 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.159 You have a favorite celebrity. M Yeah, that you. 174 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:16.320 Oh, it was nice to meeting. I say, do I 175 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.919 have a favorite one? Good question? I never even thought 176 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:23.679 about a favorite one. It was nice meeting Penny Marshall 177 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:27.840 because I really enjoyed the league of their own and 178 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.360 to hear some of the backstory. There see some other 179 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:38.480 famous celebrities that I enjoyed meeting. I'm just vapor licking 180 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:40.559 here now, and I know they're about fifteen. I tell 181 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:44.120 you one time it was, oh, golly, what's his name? 182 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.919 Tim Daily? I was doing the Angels radio and I 183 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.440 had I was responsible for the pre and the post, 184 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:55.960 and the pre is like whoever you can grab because 185 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.399 the players are tired of seeing you. No, here he 186 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.120 comes with the mi caphone again and get a work. 187 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:06.360 And so in La Excuse Me or an Anaheim, you'd 188 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:09.320 get a handful of celebrities that'll come through there. And 189 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:12.879 I knew enough about the entertainment business. So I was 190 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.840 interviewing Tim Day from Waits. I don't know if you 191 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.639 remember him from Wings. I guess that's probably yeah, yeah, 192 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:25.440 And so I knew enough about Yeah. Tim's dad was 193 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:29.000 an actor and his sister, Tyne was an an actor. 194 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.399 Or were an actor at the time. I think the 195 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:33.399 dad may not have been around the time, but I 196 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.480 knew that he came from an acting family, and I 197 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:41.039 just posed a question. I just really want just to 198 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.799 fill the five minutes six minutes. I'm not it's not 199 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:49.840 Mike Wallace trying to interview anybody. We can really something 200 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:57.919 like oh with your father, your your father and your 201 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:02.039 sister and going on. Said and I'm trying to set 202 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:05.440 up a scenario where he could talk about his background 203 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.360 or if there were And as I was asking a question, 204 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:12.919 I could tell he bristled, and I thought, oh my goodness, No, no, no, 205 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.480 I'm almost shaking my head. No I'm not because I 206 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:19.799 think he interpreted it as some kind of nepotism that 207 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:25.879 I was suggesting that he had benefited from. And I no, no, no, no, no, Tim, 208 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.000 I'm sure I was shaking my head at the time 209 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:31.360 when he started to go off. Everyone. No, that's not 210 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.960 where I'm hit it. I just want your voice and 211 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.080 have people know that I can I know a little 212 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.679 bit about something. But that was a funny interview. And 213 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:43.919 dick Enburg, the late Great dick Enburg, he was talking 214 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.519 about one time being so nervous that he was actually 215 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:52.159 throwing up before the broadcast. Think, this is Dick Enburg. 216 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:54.840 How do I get information like this? 217 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:55.759 That's awesome.

218 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.799 I'm not even asking for it. But Dick felt comfortable 219 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:00.799 enough when I had a little bit of a relationship 220 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:05.159 with him, uh to say talk about his insecurities as 221 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:08.919 a broadcaster, and I'm thinking about the rest of us. 222 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.639 What a week went through? Oh my goodness, yes, and 223 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.240 do all the sports and and it was even before 224 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.840 I think he became the Padres broadcaster towards the end 225 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.320 of this. And you've had a lot of pretty and 226 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:24.879 I'm sure. 227 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.159 You've had so many cool of your career as a 228 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.440 major league baseball player, as a screenwriter, as a broadcaster. 229 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.200 I mean, obviously they all hold a special place in 230 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.679 your heart. But do you And I'm just going to say, 231 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.159 of course, being a professional Major League baseball player in 232 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.039 the show has to be your favorite. But which one 233 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.960 I guess was second, assuming playing was first? And and 234 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:48.960 what what did you like? 235 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:49.360 Uh? 236 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.720 You know, most about your different careers. I've really enjoyed 237 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:53.480 your movie, by the. 238 00:13:53.399 --> 00:14:01.799 Way, oh my Reunion one away? Yes, oh, thank you, 239 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.279 and thank you for the plug. You can still download 240 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.360 it from its IMDb page. But as as much as 241 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.519 I want people to see it, I have to issue 242 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.120 a warning too. It's a strong, hard yes, so if 243 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.720 you haven't seen a strong R before, this may not 244 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:21.000 be the first one you should see. You may want 245 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:23.320 to start with something a little kinder, a little softer. 246 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.600 But the movie did everything I wanted to do, and 247 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.080 it was from my script, and we had fun. We 248 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.960 had three other four major league players in there for 249 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.200 an end of Perez being one of them, and he 250 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.399 stole a base in the two thousand and eight World 251 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.240 Series for the raise. I guess they were to double 252 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:44.639 rays in against the Phillies, So it was cool. He 253 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.240 was a lot of fun and we had a lot 254 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:51.279 of fun on set. We shot him like gorilla shooting. 255 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:53.799

We were shooting I think twenty three out of twenty 256 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.240 five days, and I just had to get it done. 257 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.200 I didn't know if I would be in it in 258 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:02.960 that situation again, to be around as many actors as 259 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.120 I could get, and some of the actors are you 260 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:10.480 see my goodness. Let me think of Rob Murratt, I've 261 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.320 seen I've seen a lot of them on other different shows. 262 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.879 Jack m'kahey had already been a big star or a 263 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.399 bigger star than the rest of us. He was in 264 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:22.080 Porky's and Porky's two, and you see him in Law 265 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:26.039 and Order every once in a while. And there's one actor, 266 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:34.840 Steve Brustin I see late at Night hawking. How should 267 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:43.480 I say this mail enhancement products. That's a guy was 268 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:51.000 in my movie real just because it's him, of course. 269 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:53.080 To help to help your friend only. 270 00:15:53.440 --> 00:16:01.039 Yeah, that's exactly right, and that's exactly right. I just 271 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.840 felt the need to help him along with his career. 272 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:09.240 And what do you mean, it's not you. 273 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.679 I will issue this morning for that. I would love 274 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.759 to have watched that movie with my college baseball teammates, 275 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.240 because it's a great movie for the guys. But Ray, 276 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.399 when you watch it, don't watch it with your wife. 277 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:27.399 Don't movie for your wife. It's watching with your son. 278 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:32.559 You know, watch it with your boys, you know, your teammates. 279 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:39.720 But it is so entertaining and so funny, and and. 280 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.759 Yeah, it's a lot of a lot of clubhouse high Jameson. 281 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.639 It's more, I should say, And I think everybody would 282 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:46.360 be okay with it if I say that it was 283 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.759 more of a Texas Rangers clubhouse as opposed to Braves. 284 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:55.360 I think there were about one hundred and eighty degree opposites. Yeah, 285 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:59.679 because the Rangers, if you were for a shy personality, 286 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.600 that was not the place to be. Oh my goodness. 287 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.799 Sometimes the bus ride from the airport to the hotel, 288 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.000 usually averaging about forty five to fifty minutes, could be 289 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.960 forty five or fifty minutes of the most vicious back 290 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.200 and forth you've heard

when players started to get on 291 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.039 each other. Oh my goodness. 292 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:22.000 Yeah, you got to feelings, and I'm sure there were 293 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:24.880 some guys that did not everybody took to at that time. 294 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.759 Well, I would try to be quiet, but it didn't 295 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.880 work because at some point they would realize you thought 296 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.640 we forgot about you. Oh no, and then the varias 297 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.920 would come just as you're pulling in. You're barely escaping 298 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.440 it by the time you pulled that. Oh that was brutal, 299 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:52.279 and some of it would be stuff on the field 300 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:53.960 and escape Billy. 301 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.599 Do you I think that was about a ten year 302 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.039 old kid when I read jim Ball four. 303 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.799 You remember Ball four, which sort of was the first. 304 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.119 Book to do an expos a and and make the 305 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:10.279 point that these weren't the all American kids next door 306 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:16.920 that you were told they were you know, okay. 307 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:21.400 Right, I have a ball four reference and Reunion went away. Yeah. Yeah. 308 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:24.359 In fact, I saw Jim and I told him that 309 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.640 I had a reference on it. Didn't quite pick it up, 310 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.880 but his wife didn't. She understood why, why what I 311 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:32.200 was talking about? But yeah, there's a ball four reference 312 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:36.920 and Reunion went eight. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like that. Yeah, 313 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:40.680 that's yeah, that's that's yeah. They're right. Yeah. I didn't 314 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.559 hang anybody out to dry anybody. I hung myself out 315 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.200 to dry. And some of the it's a series of flashbacks. 316 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.400 And I would say if there are thirteen flashbacks, probably 317 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:57.680 four a good four of mine. I won't tell you 318 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:00.599 which ones, but I was it's. 319 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.720 The worst one, the worst ones that could have probly been. 320 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.599 That's the ones I'm gonna believe. 321 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.920 Oh, the most. Yeah. Yeah, you're right, Chris. And it's 322 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:15.400 one of the ones that are most embarrassing, probably yeah. Yeah, yeah, 323 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.839 there there's one that I just I laughed. I was 324 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:24.359 gonna tell you off they are, but it was so 325 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:28.519 there's there's some more background to it than everyone doesn't 326 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.000 hear it, but it's it was fun it was a 327 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.960 fun shoot. I think everybody enjoyed it, and in the 328 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:37.480 in the movie, well, I was in it too much, 329 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.880 but I figure I was the one paying for most 330 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:44.039 of it, so I I we actually auditioned for my 331 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:46.119 party a couple of times. I thought I can do 332 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:50.880 this too, but it was, Oh my goodness. So in 333 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:55.039 the beginning of the movie you've seen it, it's I 334 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.799 get slapped and my character gets slapped. And in order 335 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:03.400 to rehearse that, you have to you're shooting your wide shot, 336 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:08.200 you're shooting your her close up, my close up. So 337 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:13.359 I'm getting slapped about I mean, and she was care O'Brien. 338 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.200 She was a pro, and each one was a real slap. Well, 339 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:20.079 a couple of the players were telling me, a couple 340 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.200 of players, I think it was fair in Salisbury and 341 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:27.359 James Britain. A couple of the younger actors told me 342 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:29.720 they could see that I was feeling for the slap. 343 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:35.400 So after that I had to really make a state there. 344 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:39.519 I took the slap and this was about twenty five 345 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:45.839 crazy what, oh my god, to use to use for 346 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:49.359 one thing, to use Oh my god, that's rough. 347 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.160 Hey, but I do want to say you did a 348 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:55.920 great job as an actor to be in that movie. Like, 349 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:59.400 how much training or how much schooling? Because you played 350 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:01.160 it really well. Was it a lot of work to 351 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:04.079 sort of get in that mindset? Was it kind of natural? 352 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:09.680 It was? It was tough in a way because I 353 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:13.119 had to oversee so much that I didn't have as 354 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:17.160 much time to devote to my character as probably I 355 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.920 would have liked to. And and it's funny because I 356 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:23.960 wrote the script and I had remember the lines that 357 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.960 I wrote. So but but it was, it was fun. 358 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:35.519 It was it was my I think I ran over 359 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:40.519 every pothole I could possibly have driven over, and made 360 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.319 every mistake that one could make, and still it was fun. 361 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:50.880 If I ever do another one, I'll know better. I'll 362 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.440 know better and everybody will enjoy it a little

bit better. 363 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.599 But I think for the most but everybody enjoyed it. Anyway. 364 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:00.160 There are a couple of people that I would want 365 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.640 to have in my next movie if I ever have 366 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:08.119 another one. One lady that I had had her called 367 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:11.519 back for a role and didn't use her, but because 368 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:13.960 somebody came within a package deal, and I felt so 369 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.240 bad about that. And thirteen years later, I'm going to 370 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.599 try to track her down and see if she didn't 371 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:20.000 want to be in a movie of mine if I 372 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:23.880 ever make one again. And uh, there was one lady 373 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.400 later on that I said she had a tough role, 374 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.440 and I said that if I ever do another one, 375 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.759 I would And she's been in law and order and stuff, 376 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:35.519 so she's got some credit and I would want to 377 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:37.880 cast her because I told her it was a tough 378 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.640 role I gave you, and I really appreciate you doing 379 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.119 it and doing it so well that if I ever 380 00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:44.559 get into a position. 381 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.759 Again, was that the lady would be? Was that the 382 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:48.599 lady that smell? 383 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:55.519 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's you did. 384 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:57.880 Yeah, well I've got just a few minutes left at 385 00:22:57.880 --> 00:22:59.599 the end we get off. 386 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:05.359 But yeah, I'm flattered. Yeah, I'm flattered. Yeah. 387 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.920 I mean, I can just relate to that so much, 388 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.960 And you know, I'm sure it's universal. I don't think 389 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.480 you see that like what that is in high school 390 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:16.160 or not my high school, but in college the college 391 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.240 clubhouse is just captured so perfectly by that, Like I 392 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.400 just you know, because it's just a lot of sexual conversation. 393 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.920 You're at that age and you're just having so much 394 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:28.160 fun with it. You know, and it's so ridiculous, you know, 395 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:29.720 and as a you know, as a forty six year 396 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:31.680 old man, you look back and think, oh, we were 397 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:34.079 so mature, but at the time, that's just the culture 398 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.079 and it's so much fun. So, yeah, it was hilarious 399 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:37.559 to see that. 400 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.000 Yeah, And I think sports, and maybe baseball more so 401 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:47.559 than most allows older people to be at a less 402 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:52.440 funy for longer than than you. Right, So some of 403 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:54.920 the things that you might see you think, oh, that 404 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.440 happened fifteen twenty years ago, wells still happening. Maybe we 405 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.039 don't tell it everybody about it, but it still goes on. 406 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.079 And I thought the concern in that particular scene is 407 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:10.880 a universe. I think it's something that I've heard other 408 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.079 men talk about, other males. 409 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:16.119 Everybody's got a story or a buddy with that story. 410 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:17.319 It's a similar person. 411 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.480 Yeah. Yeah, we've probably all taken tell. 412 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:29.200 Us about your tell us about your major league career, Billy. 413 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.160 When did you come up? How many years did you 414 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:32.720 get in? Where were you. 415 00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:40.839 H m hmm. Well, as we said earlier, I was 416 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.839 I was born and well I didn't say I was 417 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:45.720 born in rock I was born in Rono, grew up 418 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.839 in nearby Salem, Virginia. Salem had a minor league still 419 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:52.039 has a minor league team. When I was growing up, 420 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:53.839 it was the Pirates for the most part. Of the 421 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.960 Giants and the early part of my time there, but 422 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.279 the Pirates for the most part. And it was interesting 423 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.559 because I got to see players play that I later 424 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:07.279 played either against or with. I got to see Mario 425 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.240 Mendoza play, and later on we were teammates in Texas, 426 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:13.240 so I thought that was kind of cool. And a 427 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.119 few of the other guys I played again. I saw 428 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:21.160 Dave Parker and Dave Cash and Ed Ott go through 429 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:27.640 there and see faced Jim Sadowski who had a little 430 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.480 bit of time with the Pirates, and on his way down, 431 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.920 I was on my way up and got to face 432 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:34.839 guys and I saw then, So that was nice. And 433 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:41.960 it's nice to have access to some of the other 434 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:46.160 players and the game itself, because you get a chance 435 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:48.400 to measure yourself up. You get a chance to come 436 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:51.480 and looked and wonder if this is the kind of 437 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:54.519 ball I can play, or can I hit this

particular picture, 438 00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:56.960 or can I make this play? And to have a 439 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.839 minor league team in your hometown, I think helped I 440 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.400 tell people as a better football player growing up Ray 441 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.519 but there was nobody really here to argue it, so 442 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.799 I get away with it. But I was. I played 443 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.920 three sports in high school, and I was in two 444 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.559 plays my junior year, and I was a debter my 445 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:25.039 freshman year, a JV debater my freshman year. So I 446 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.279 was most versatilele of my senior year. I appreciated that, 447 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.519 and I think I'm still trying to earn that award 448 00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:35.599 that I was most versatile. But I was drafted by 449 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:38.000 the Texas Rangers in the twenty eighth round out of 450 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.400 high school. Now nowadays they only have twenty rounds, so 451 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:47.119 I wouldn't even have been drafted in today's structure. And 452 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.400 the scout could hear my disappointment when he told me 453 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.920 what round it was. And at that time there were 454 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.240 twenty four teams, and he said, well built, twenty three 455 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.480 other teams passed of you twenty seven times, as if 456 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:06.599 to say, don't blame must. I'm sure he used that 457 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.640 line before. That was the late great Joe Brenzil. He 458 00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:12.680 was great. So then I went to JMU James Madison, 459 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.559 and it was, oh jeez, it was an all female 460 00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:20.960 institution up until the late sixties. And in fact, when 461 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.519 I was there's three to one female. You would think 462 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:29.440 that would have helped me, but they didn't, and. 463 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:29.000 So that must have been missed. 464 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:35.759 Yeah, and oh yeah, yeah, you still need some semblance 465 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:42.119 of a rap and I didn't have one. And or 466 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:46.160 or you need to have friends who are also big 467 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:50.799 in fraternities, because it's not like the fraternity guys want 468 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.519 more men at their parties, so you don't find out 469 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.000 about the parties. You've got to know somebody having a 470 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.119 party at it. Okay, Fine, It took me a while 471 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.240 to realize I should buddy up with somebody in the 472 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.480 fraternity to know where the parties were and where all 473 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.599 the

women, even that three to one were. But the 474 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.839 baseball program hadn't been all that old. And yeah, every 475 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.319 once in a while I come up with something. And 476 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.480 the baseball program wasn't that old. I think it was 477 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:26.119 only four years old. And Brad Babcock a tremendous recruiter, 478 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.960 legendary coach of James Madison. And from what would have 479 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:36.039 been my sophomore year, we had I had five I 480 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:41.079 think I had six other teammates, six teammates signed pro contracts. 481 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.400 I was the first one to sign in nineteen seventy six. 482 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:50.240 Todd winterfeldt our center fielder, signed the next year. He 483 00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:55.079 made it a triple A with the Mets. Clutchingting shortstop. JW. 484 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.799 Mitchell made it to double A with the Cubs. Jim Barber, 485 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.759 first baseman, made it to double A with the Rangers. 486 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.640 Michae Lacaz was a teammate of Cal Ripken juniors and 487 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:12.599 the miners, and Tim Simonis and Roger Lee played independent ball. 488 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.680 So for what was just a program that was so young, 489 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.839 to have that many players signed pro contracts was really remarkable. 490 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.599 Brad was a tremendous recruiter and a legendary coach there. 491 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.119 In fact, he took the first team, the nineteen eighty 492 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.319 three JMU team to the College World Series. I was 493 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.720 the first team from Virginia to go to the College 494 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:41.359 World Series, So I'm really pleased about all of that. Anyway, 495 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.039 I played in the Shanadoa Valley legue, and that really 496 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.119 helped because you're playing with and against some of the 497 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:50.119 better players along the Eastern Seaboard. In fact, my first 498 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.680 year there is after my freshman year in college, and 499 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.799 I had three teammates who also made it to the 500 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:58.559 major leagues from that summer league team. Jim Pankovitz with 501 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:03.240 the Astros basement and Dave Tobig a picture with the 502 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.680 Tigers and the Rangers. And Gene Richards, who had the 503 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.319 National League stolen base record for rookies before Tim Rains 504 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:13.640 broke it. Was a centerfielder and could low fly. I 505 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.960 mean just a big guy, not a small guy, but 506 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.319 a big put together really well. And he came from 507 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:24.640 South Carolina State, and South Carolina State dropped its baseball program, 508 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.960 had the number one and two picks in the draft 509 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.160 he and Willie Aikins, and Aikens had an outstanding career 510 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.559 with the Royals and the Angels and a big World 511 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.839 Series time too, So that was can you have the 512 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.720 first two players in the draft and you drop your program. 513 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:46.039 But the Valley League really helped me, I think, let 514 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.720 me know how I matched up against the better players 515 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.559 along the Eastern Seaboard. So after my junior year, I 516 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:58.799 was drafted the tenth round and I signed and when 517 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:04.839 I when just before the opening game of my first 518 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:09.680 minor league season, Joe Klein, another great baseball man, he 519 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.799 was no longer with us. They were about twenty five 520 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.119 or twenty seven of us, and he said, at some point, 521 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.799 take a look to your left, and take a look 522 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.799 to your right and pick out another person, because that's 523 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.200 all that's going to make it to the majors. And 524 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.640 he wasn't saying it's a scarce. He was just saying, 525 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:31.319 those are the odds. Steve Comer, change up throwing right 526 00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:34.839 hander out of University of Minnesota preceded me. Brian Allard, 527 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.400 a stylish right hander somewhere in Illinois, came after me. 528 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.319 That was it. Wow, he was right for that one. 529 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.720 That was it. Those were the three players that made 530 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:46.720 it to the majors. So you do go through numbers. 531 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.680 Yeah, definitely motivates you when you know that you're competing 532 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:54.160 that hard to keep going. Hey, Billy, we usually at 533 00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:55.839 about halfway through the show, we. 534 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.440 Just yeah, I don't know, trust, I don't know. If 535 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.039 it's up, you can. 536 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.400 Go ahead and finish it and then we'll do a 537 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:03.079 quick break. 538 00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:04.480 I didn't hear you. I'm sorry. 539 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:06.359 You can finish what you were gonna say, then we'll 540 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:07.160 take a quick break. 541 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.519 Oh no, I don't know. If it was I don't 542 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.920 know if it was so motivating. I think it was 543

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.599 just and as I said, he didn't say it to 544 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.720 scare us. He was just saying, that's it. And maybe 545 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.640 I never thought of it that way. Maybe somewhere in 546 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:26.440 the subconscious it was motivating, but it was I kind 547 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.160 of took it like, okay, all right, yeah. 548 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:39.000 You do it, all right. So with that, we're gonna 549 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.640 take a real quick break and Secrets of the Trade, Billy. 550 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:43.000 Uh. 551 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.440 We just sit quietly for about ten seconds and then 552 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.200 start talking again. The rest of the world will hear 553 00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.519 a couple of commercials and take a couple of minutes. 554 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.880 So all you have to do is just give us 555 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.160 a quick pause and we'll be right back with more 556 00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:03.880 Trisdan Ray and Billy Sample. I love those commercials. 557 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:04.200 Billy. 558 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.440 You would not believe how much money we make from 559 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.000 this show. You would be blown away. 560 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:17.119 I would be. But I'm happy for you. You need 561 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.200 somebody to carry your luggage. I'm retired, I'm looking for 562 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.880 something to do. Well, Hey, you got a lot of 563 00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:31.640 baseball cards to sign? Baseball cards request to sign? Yeah, 564 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.880 I'm two months behind as it is. Oh my goodness. 565 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.680 If I leave and then come back if I leave 566 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:43.039 for half a month and I average getting about probably 567 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:47.359 three maybe four cards a day, and there's probably three 568 00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.319 baseball cards in each envelope, I should say, And if 569 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.640 I'm gone for half the month, by the time I 570 00:33:54.680 --> 00:34:02.200 get back fifteen times fifteen Yeah, And I'm only good 571 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.519 for about seven envelopes today before my handwriting gets a 572 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:11.320 little shaky, so I keep getting backed up. I see 573 00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.159 where they'll They'll say, oh, yeah, I got Billy's sample 574 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.360 the other day. You got them in six weeks. I 575 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.320 know it sounds like a long time, but sometimes that's 576 00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:22.079 the best I can do. 577 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.239 So how would you'll get that? Because I always worried. 578 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.519 I've recently got into that hobby and I find it 579 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.760 really really fun. Like how annoying is it for you? 580

00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:32.920 Like? 581 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.639 Are you just like these fucking guys or you know 582 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.440 you like, do you like doing it? Or how does 583 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:38.199 it make you feel? 584 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.960 No, well, again a good question, how does it make 585 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.920 me feel? I like being part of people. I understand it. 586 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.440 I wasn't a car collecting myself in any sport, but 587 00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.760 I appreciate the sports, and I could probably tell you 588 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.360 as much football and hockey growing up as I could 589 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:03.239 any any other sport. So I understand the part, and 590 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.719 I think it's a good selling point for the sport. 591 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.000 I think I've tried to enhance people's appreciation of the game, 592 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.920 and that's one area that I think I have and 593 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:20.840 enjoy being part of people's collections. It just I'm not 594 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.400 very prop Sometimes I feel a little bad, especially on 595 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.639 the prospect card. I'm on a prospect nineteen seventy nine 596 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:30.360 prospects card with Danny Darwin and Pat Putnam, and if 597 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.719 I see that they've already signed, Pat was kind of 598 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.199 hard to find. For while Danny's a great signer, Pat 599 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.119 was a little hard to find. But now Pat's even 600 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:43.559 signing tremendously well. But if I see that they've already 601 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.480 signed and I'm two months behind, I'm going I can 602 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.400 feel the other person I'm ever going to get this 603 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:52.480 card back. So I feel a little bad about that sometimes, 604 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.800 But I and I try to be a little personal 605 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.559 with it and say some things. And I've read some tremendous, 606 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.360 tremendous letters and I where you can tell just how 607 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.519 heart felt they are about their relationship with the game 608 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:12.760 and what it means to have had that relationship, usually 609 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:17.280 with family members and I understand that period, but I 610 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.039 even understand it even more than that because my first 611 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:27.199 two major league games were taken to taken by my aunt. 612 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.719 They took me to my aunt Wends. He took me 613 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:34.559 to my first game. It was the Twins at Yankee Stadium. 614 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.039 She was living at Patterson at the time. Wendcey's her name, 615 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:45.480 and Jim

Mudcat Grant was pitching, and I subsequently interacted 616 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.079 with Mudcat, So that was kind of cool to be 617 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:48.760 able to tell. 618 00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:50.400 Him that, oh, yeah, I mean, you were in my 619 00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.199 first game, a big league game, and my first National 620 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.360 League game was on the other side of the family, 621 00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.280 my father's side of the family, where his sister Edna 622 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:04.239 took uh, my brother, her son, and me to a 623 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.719 game at Shay Stadium and Jim Bunning was pitching and 624 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:11.199 Johnny Lewis left handed hitting outfielder. 625 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.840 He got both hits for the Meds and the loss. 626 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:16.559 He homered and I think he homered and doubled. I 627 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:18.519 remember the homer and I think the second hit was 628 00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.199 a double. And years later I'm broadcasting for somebody and 629 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:25.880 Johnny Lewis was the hitting instructor for I think he 630 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:29.079 was the Cardinals at that time, and I told him 631 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.360 about my first game, and you could see he remembered it. Well, 632 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.639 well we're in a double, Yeah, you remember that. And 633 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.679 you could see as I'm telling him, you could see 634 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.599 his face span into a smile and a nice remembrance. 635 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.400 And I thought that was cool too. They had a 636 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.280 lot of cool moments, and I sort of absorbed a 637 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:55.880 lot of the coolness out of it. Yeah. Sometimes I 638 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:59.639 remember Patrick Duffy coming, the actor of Dallas, the TV 639 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:01.880 show he was came into. Yeah, he came into the 640 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.000 locker room and to the clubhouse, and he was just 641 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.920 Nobody brought him. He sort of brought him there and 642 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.800 just left him there. And he didn't whoever's didn't introduce 643 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.800 him to anybody, didn't. I knew who he was, and 644 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.519 I thought, well, I'm not big enough, not a big 645 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.800 enough start to go. Somebody said, who do you meet, 646 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.559 Billy who? So it would have been it would have 647 00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.679 been more appropriate to have a Buddy Bell or Al 648 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.960 Oliver's meet him. But so he was just there and 649 00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.079 we were going, well, they brought him into late. You 650 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.800 should have brought him in earlier where we could have interacted. 651 00:38:39.840

--> 00:38:42.480 But it was about time to have your game face 652 00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:44.920 on walking through the tunnel to go out to the field, 653 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.599 and I remember Jim Sunberg going over and introducing himself 654 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.599 and saying welcome or whatever, and that was the appropriate 655 00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.840 person to do it, because James he was missed Arlington 656 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.440 for quite some time. And so but I did. I 657 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.119 fell for him because he was a big are and 658 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.280 you're nothing in this locker. Yeah, and I've seen some 659 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.159 of them too, like I don't know if you remember 660 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:14.360 David Lander from LAVONN Laverne and Shirley R. Yeah, and 661 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.400 he came in and he was a scout later on 662 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.760 with the Mariners. I think I believe he was a 663 00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.239 scout later on, but especially with the Yankees. You walked 664 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:29.039 stars through there and it's like, okay, it's okay. I 665 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.719 remember meeting Jesse Jackson there and I didn't realize how 666 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.920 big he was. I didn't realize he was. And we 667 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.920 talked a little bit about his playing days that I 668 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:38.519 forgot where you went to school. I think it was 669 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.760 North Carolina A and T and he was a quarterback 670 00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:43.599 then and we talked a little bit about that and 671 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.440 later saw him in life. So yeah, as I alluded 672 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.519 to earlier in the earlier segment that it's kind of 673 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.079 nice to run in some of the people that the 674 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.440 fellow entertainers that that you can identify with a little 675 00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:05.480 bit because you're in the same kind bit different. Yeah, 676 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.880 he said he was a quarterback, and I want to 677 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:11.239 say it was A and T and he was bigger. 678 00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.039 He was bigger than I thought. He just was like 679 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.360 you could say, he looked like he could. Yeah, No, 680 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.599 one's going to doubt him if he said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 681 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.000 And I'm sure I'll come up with about fifty other 682 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:29.159 people that run into I think I mentioned Bruce Warrensby earlier. 683 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.800 Bruce knew Chuck Finley and Mark Langston with the Angels, 684 00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:37.239 and Bruce would come up and Bruce was from Williamsburg, Virginia, 685 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.199 and so we knew a family that he knew. Somebody 686 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:44.280 went to James Mandison and I knew the same people, 687 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.800 so we had a little connection there. But Bruce would 688 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.920 come and just sort of play in the piano bar 689 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:56.880 out in the lobby and just like you're walking back 690 00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.480 going just I don't have to pay for this concert either. 691 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:02.679 And so that was that. 692 00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:10.760 His son went on to play college basketball. Yeah, he 693 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.159 was on the squad. I don't know how much he 694 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.239 played came to like how big a sports fan Bruce 695 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:22.519 was during that time. Yeah, yeah, oh thanks. 696 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.119 Right, I appreciate that. 697 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.079 I feel Hey, Billy, I've got a question for you 698 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.280 and this. I'm a big stuff guy. I shouldn't be. 699 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.400 I hate it about myself, but I am. Like I 700 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.599 always blame growing up poor, but I do. I like stuff, 701 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.920 And I know Ray's got to get out of here. 702 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.000 His wife suffered a vehicle accident and she's just made 703 00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:43.559 it home. Uh Like, she spent a lot of time 704 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.320 in the hospital and rehab, so he's got to actually 705 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.920 dip out a little bit early. So she's doing good, 706 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.760 she's really recovering everything, doing great. But Ray's got to 707 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.639 take off. Yeah, it was just so. 708 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:56.159 Such a pleasure to meet you, Billy. 709 00:41:56.519 --> 00:42:00.159 I'd love Okay, Yeah, let's let's let's. 710 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.679 Oh yeah, we'll do this again. Well, hang out even closer. 711 00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:05.360 When I get up for you. When I get up 712 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.000 the way from I'm in Florida, so I get up. 713 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:11.360 I need to I need to get out. 714 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.360 Come visit anytime. We got an extra room. 715 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.840 There's still ten there's still ten states I haven't visited. 716 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.000 There are still ten states I haven't slept. Yeah, I 717 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:26.440 gotta get an I best the best of your spouse. Yeah. 718 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.639 So my question to you was Ray takes off, is 719 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.199 did you have a moment in the show where you 720 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:34.119 bought yourself a car, you bought yourself something cool. Was 721 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.519 there something material that you tied to I've really made 722 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:41.119 it because I've bought this or I've got this. Was 723 00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.159

there any moment like that that you had, or item 724 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.679 that you bought, or anything that that you did for 725 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:46.519 that occasion. 726 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.519 Well, you're you're a bit younger than me, so you 727 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.920 probably think that baseball players and athletes in general made 728 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:03.840 a lot of money. My first contract was one thousand. Yeah, 729 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.679 so you're taking home eighteen thousand, and that was in 730 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.199 the big league. So I started to talk about that earlier. 731 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.880 The six hundred and eight ball, seven fifty in Double A, 732 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.119 eleven fifty in Triple A, And I sent the Triple 733 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.159 A contract back because I heard that's what you're supposed 734 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.639 to do if you don't like the number, sent it back. 735 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.719 But the general manager, Hal Kelly, he surprised me. He 736 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.440 gave me a call Bill was gonna take to sign you, 737 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.039 and I didn't know how to negotiate anything for myself. 738 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:37.559 But let's see, I signed for six thousand dollars after 739 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.280 my junior year, and I thought I was saving myself 740 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.960 in taxes. So I took four thousand one year. In 741 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.480 two thousand and the next I probably saved all of 742 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.400 about eleven dollars and h and I bought a nineteen 743 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.760 you know what year that was. It was a lemon 744 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.280 yellow Vega. Yes, that was my car. We couldn't get 745 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:06.079 a pincho, Billy, and and I was moving. I was 746 00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:13.559 moving on up. I saw showman Hensley, I should have 747 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:19.000 no And then one time I came back and my 748 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.719 brothers I'm five, six and seven years older than my brothers. 749 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.840 I came back in the car and they were bullets. 750 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:25.199 Oh wow. 751 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:26.800 I didn't ask any questions. 752 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:29.000 That's rough. 753 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:33.119 I didn't want to know. I didn't want to have 754 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:33.760 to testify. 755 00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:35.440 Well, Billy, it was a pleasure to meet you. I 756 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.480 am going to dip out, tris. I'll just leave this 757 00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.920 open and assume that download and we'll be good. 758 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:45.519 Sounds good, Ray, I appreciate it, man, and give give 759 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:54.280 our best to Patty. Likewise, all right, Billy and well, 760 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.199 we could chat just a few more minutes. Man, I've 761 00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.639 I've obviously have. I don't all the time get to 762 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:01.480 get to to talk to major leaguers, so I've got 763 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.599 to take advantage when i can. Hey, if you've got it, 764 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.480 I'm here as long as appreciate you. Hey, here's a 765 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:11.719 kind of a real quick, funny story. And then I've 766 00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:15.559 got a question for you. So the radio TV group 767 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.679 that I work for, we are part of the Cincinnati 768 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.719 Reds UH radio network, so we get uh, you know, 769 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:25.000 we have a relationship with the Cincinnati Reds and Uh, 770 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.760 I get a call out of the blue about. 771 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.559 Oh, did you tell me a Dave Did you tell 772 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.880 me a Dave Collins Dave story? That was me? 773 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:37.159 I haven't told her yet? 774 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:38.599 Did you tell me? I haven't. 775 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.519 I haven't told you on the podcast. But it was 776 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.280 funny that your movie opened with a Dave Collins story. 777 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:48.000 So you were talking about him being fast and white, 778 00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:49.840 and I was like, Oh, that's funny because I had 779 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:57.880 the Dave Colin story. So oh, and that's one thing 780 00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.440 I've never been a day in my life. 781 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:06.000 I probably grew up a little bit of a racist fast. 782 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.800 You just have to kind of work at it. I wasn't. 783 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:15.119 I wasn't particularly fast either. I improved one year because 784 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.199 in baseball you run the sixty year that you cross 785 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.920 over step baseball uniform and stuff. And I ran a 786 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.360 seven three after somewhere in my sophomore year and they 787 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.360 don't even look at you at seven three. And but 788 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.960 the next year I ran a six eight, So I'd 789 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:38.000 improved to have second and anything under seven is considered 790 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.519 good speed. So but yeah, and I didn't do anything 791 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:48.000 specific for that, but I did play three sports help, 792 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:59.400 but yeah, yeah, yeah, I I remember thinking that that 793 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:04.480 when I the American not the American but the Valley 794 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.679 League is where I had a lot of great players. 795 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.480 And for some reason, I don't know, it sounds racist 796 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.039 when I think about it, but I it was the 797 00:47:13.039 -->

00:47:17.199 first time I think I'd been around that many fast 798 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:21.840 white guys that could just low fly. And and I 799 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.880 had some of his teammates in high school, ge Sprinkle, 800 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:29.599 my goodness, a tremendous football player could fly. But and 801 00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:35.000 it kind of just slapped me. Stop it. They got 802 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:40.880 fast people all over the world. What are you thinking, Yeah, 803 00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:44.360 but yeah, you just have to work at it. And 804 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.000 I think sometimes too, if you run downhill. It helps 805 00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:53.760 strengthen your your in lengthen your stride, and you have 806 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:55.800 to sort of keep up a little faster too because 807 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.760 you want to fall on your face. So I think 808 00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.119 that helps too sometimes when you when you're trying to 809 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:04.960 because you just see if you had only gotten it. 810 00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:06.800 Like the common sense of it is if you think 811 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.559 you're running uphill, you're building muscle. But yeah, you really 812 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.159 gained more speed going downhill, which I thought was fascinating. 813 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.760 Right, So what were you? Every once in a while, come. 814 00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.880 Who are your funniest teammates? Like, I know your movie 815 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:25.679 is all about busting balls, or there's a lot of 816 00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.239 busting balls, which one of your teammates like stands out 817 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.159 as the funniest, or if you have like craziest teammates. 818 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.679 Oh god, oh just oh everybody's funny. Every I mean 819 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:46.159 one time in USA today used to have a section 820 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:49.719 or sports section where they would have the top five 821 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.760 of something. This is back back Jesson many years ago? 822 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:58.079 Was that forty fifty years now? And I'm trying to 823 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.599 think of who I had as my top five character 824 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:07.400 teammates and character character could be interpreted in a number 825 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.400 of different ways, but I think I had Sparky little 826 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:16.639 Jim Kern saying, Mickey Rivers, Oscar Gamble and Bobby Jones 827 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:25.199 and Bobby Jones left handed hitting outfielder, just the nightclub funny, 828 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.000 stand up comedian funny, and so many of them are 829 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.840 like that, just like you could just there are people 830 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.599 laughing almost every day. I couldn't wait for Oscar Gamble 831 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.920 to get into the clubhouse. And I was only teammates 832 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.159 with Oscar for shoot four months long enough. I had 833 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.320 to give up my number seven to them because numbers 834 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.239 on his seventh year, there's some there are connections why 835 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:53.960 he had to get number seven and I had to 836 00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:57.199 give it up, and I boughked for about a day. 837 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:03.000 Finally they you got to give it up. Steve Comer, 838 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.960 I mentioned him earlier. Steve, when Sparky Lyle was traded 839 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.719 from the Yankees to the Rangers, Steve just gave up 840 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:13.639 the uniform number twenty eight that he was wearing and 841 00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.760 didn't didn't spark You didn't say anything to him, Steve 842 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.960 didn He just gave him the uniform and Sparky rewarded 843 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:26.039 him with ten bills, which I thought was really that's 844 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:30.159 Sparky though he was really classy like that. Yeah, just 845 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:33.719 I'm still I was still waiting for my mind from Oscar, 846 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.039 but it didn't come out that way. I think he 847 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:40.360 might better. Yeah, he was, but he was just so 848 00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:41.400 he was. 849 00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:42.159 It was. 850 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.360 He had a kinetic energy about him. He'd walk into 851 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.119 the clubhouse and I'd say, all right, okay, this is 852 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.480 the big one and just and it's like you're ready 853 00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.639 to play. It was, it was, and he could play too. 854 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.280 But it was another one of those great Texas Rangers trees. 855 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.039 So they wanted to improve that. They were going forward 856 00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.559 in seventy nine, and he wanted to improve there they're hitting, 857 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:11.920 and so they traded for Mickey Rivers. And Mickey and 858 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.360 the Rangers and the Yankees made a lot of trades 859 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:18.360 between those two teams back then because Brad Corbett, the 860 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.119 owner of the Rangers, is from New was from New York, 861 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.039 and he and Steinberner evidently had a good relationship, and 862 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:30.079 they whoever Steinburner didn't want anymore, became more popular than 863 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:37.880 he trade them off to Texas. So so they trade 864 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:44.039 for Mickey. Yeah, and there were two players that minor 865 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:48.079 league players that had to go with them in the trade. 866 00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:52.199 Who was going to

the Yankees. Yeah, they were training okay, Mickey, Yeah, 867 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.199 just Mickey for two minor league players. I think that was. 868 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.920 It might eve been another player. I can't remember, but 869 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.719 two of the players hadn't cleared waivers, which is procedural. 870 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.039 It's sort of basic. You can't trade players we haven't 871 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:10.199 gone to anyway. So because the Rangers made that snaff fo, 872 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.960 they had to give up one of their players. Oh yeah, 873 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.599 it was a player to be named later. That's what 874 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:18.559 it was. Two minor league players and a player to 875 00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.159 be named later. And I guess on the group of 876 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.280 players to be named later, Oscar's name was on there. 877 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.440 So so the Yankees took Oscar in the middle of 878 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.960 our season. In fact, there was one day where both 879 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:34.159 Mickey and Oscar we're on our team. We were taking 880 00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:37.199 our team picture that day and they were both in 881 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.400 the team picture. But the next day Oscar had to 882 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.960 go to the Yankees. And Oscar was our leading hitter. 883 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.480 He was batting like three thirty five or something, and 884 00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.079 just as I alluded to, just a tremendous person in 885 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.199 the clubhouse, Not that I put a lot of credence 886 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.519 in it, but he was. It was just tremendous and 887 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.440 that was the kind of stuff the Rangers did back 888 00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.679 in the day. That's wrong. You know, you've got to 889 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:04.039 be in me. There was one time where they, oh see, 890 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.320 that wasn't the only one. Did they have to include 891 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.960 Da Brighetti and the player trade. He was a throw 892 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.800 in in a ten player trade. He struck out twenty 893 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.920 one and he has a throw in. Not only do 894 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.559 you not get him, but you have to fix him. 895 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.519 And back then there were there was a balanced schedule, 896 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.199 so you saw him as much as the Tigers saw him. 897 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:30.000 Unbelieva. So you don't have to tell name anything. 898 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:33.480 Thank you, thank you for having me. 899 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.480 Did you have any teammates that's a lot of You 900 00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:38.320 have a lot of good clubhouse guys, did you? And 901 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.400 you don't have to name names if you don't want to, 902 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:42.840 but it's we certainly allowed. Do you have people that 903 00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:47.719 were just pricks that you were like these fucking guys? 904 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:56.800 Uh? No, you had people that didn't like me? Get 905 00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:04.679 in line. No, not really. You're traveling with a party 906 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.280 of thirty seven to forty people and everybody's not going 907 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.159 to be your best friend. I think we all know that, 908 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.559 and maybe more so with the Rangers because we did 909 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.599 have strong personality. There was strong personality. So there are 910 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.800 probably a few people that didn't get along, but for 911 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:29.199 the most part, I think nobody killed anybody. Nobody died. 912 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.559 I think that of those three teams I was with 913 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:40.039 the Braves and the Yankees and the Rangers. The Braves 914 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:48.199 were the nice or just nice people. Not very excitable, yeah, 915 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:53.159 but nice. Just I was thinking about Dale Murphy and 916 00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:57.880 Paul austen Maker and had old Wine and Terry Harper 917 00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:08.320 and just She's Ken Oberkfell and just nice people. And 918 00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.480 the Rangers had And I was there in Texas more 919 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:15.320 than I was there anywhere else, And so I think 920 00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.320 I know the Rangers a little better. And we were 921 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:22.199 not quite as nice. We had personality, but probably not 922 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:27.599 as nice that it was. Yeah, there weren't there. There 923 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.440 weren't many lacks and dull times. It was just a 924 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.280 makeup of the people. But it seemed like whoever we 925 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:37.920 got sort of fit into that makeup. 926 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.079 What do you think of Ricky Ricky Henderson when you 927 00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:41.559 played with him as a teammate. 928 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:54.920 Well, much better a teammates than yeah, Yeah, it was okay. 929 00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.000 I didn't realize Tristan how cut he was, how must 930 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.559 skiller he was until we were teammates, and oh gee, yeah, okay, 931 00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:10.400 I can see why he pulls hamstrings and has occasionally 932 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.920 has an injury problem here and there because he was 933 00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:17.360 just so cut and so tight and what a player. 934 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:23.400 But I ran into Ricky had a card show years ago, 935 00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:27.039 obviously years ago, and Ricky's no longer with us, and 936 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:34.800 he said that his mother and the baseball

scout talked 937 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.079 him out of somehow manipulated him out of going to 938 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.920 either Arizona or Arizona State on a football scholarship. And 939 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:46.559 he said he ran stadiums because his leg strength was 940 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:50.239 just incredible. Not many people have the kind of leg 941 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.000 strength that he had to take leads the way that 942 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.199 he had and to take off the way that he had. 943 00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:59.599 And he said he ran stadiums, And I guess that's 944 00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.000 part to the build up of it. And maybe as 945 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.239 a running back. He ran it in anticipation of playing 946 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:11.119 football in college. But mom didn't want to our boy 947 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:12.480 getting hurt playing football and. 948 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.960 Baseball was I would say, what was it like facing 949 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.559 Nolan Ryan during your Yeah. 950 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:28.079 Yeah it was. Yeah. I only faced Nolan twice, both 951 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.000 in nineteen seventy nine. It was in a back to 952 00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.440 back series. I was one for six with two walks. 953 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:38.880 I got the second hit of that hit was the 954 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.119 second hit of a two hitter. He threw an Anaheim. 955 00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.320 But if Oscar gamble, there you go Oscar gain. If 956 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.360 Oscar didn't get the first hit in the eighth inning, 957 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:49.320 I'm not sure I was getting mine in the ninth 958 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.280 because he was blowing. I don't recall anybody in the 959 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:57.800 Major than he was that night. You take that that short, 960 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.400 quick swing and you foul it back, and somewhere in 961 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.880 the deep recesses of your mind you realize that's all 962 00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:07.000 I brought to the yard tonight. So for this to work, 963 00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.119 he's gonna have to slow that down to about an 964 00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:17.079 Oh my god, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's just And 965 00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.599 it wasn't a lot of times you're looking for you've 966 00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:23.000 played it and you're looking for release points, and he 967 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.239 showed it to you. You saw it. It wasn't he 968 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:29.519 wasn't hiding it. It was here. You saw it, and 969 00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.679 he had a real good curveball to go along with it. Two. 970 00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:35.760 You probably didn't need it, being as fast as the 971 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:39.519 sassball was. But just curveball was outstanding too, but yeah, yeah, 972 00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:45.280 we got two hits that night. That was it. I 973 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:50.679 remember some story. Uh well, I was a pretty good 974 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.880 high fastball there. But it it reminds me of the story. 975 00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:56.159 I don't know if you ever run across Ralph car 976 00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:00.320 talking about funny people. Oh my goodness. And Ralph has 977 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.920 this high pitched voice, and he's playing with the White 978 00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:08.480 Sox and Chad Lemon was that in second so Ralph 979 00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.199 leading off against No One and not than blows them away. 980 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:16.000 And as he's walking to the dugout and Lemon's walking 981 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.960 towards the place, he says, I can't do this, but 982 00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:25.440 I'm gonna try. No reason to do it. 983 00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:29.840 There he's going too holl at tonight. 984 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:33.559 I gotta work on that. 985 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:36.440 Oh that's funny though. 986 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:45.559 He's going too holl oh jeez. And then Ralph Ralph, Oh, 987 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.440 you're talking about funny man. Just so many funny people, 988 00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.280 so many you're talking about other funny people. I'm thinking 989 00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:56.519 of Jim Norris funny and just like, ah, just so quick, 990 00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:58.920 just so And I guess we all have grown up 991 00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:01.400 with people. I remember people who were just really quick. 992 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:03.960 I remember a guy named Teddy Harris. He was so 993 01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:05.960 quick and he could play a dozen as they say 994 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.360 back in the day, and you didn't want to be 995 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:10.400 around it. They just started picking on you because he 996 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.039 was just so you couldn't say anything because he would 997 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.760 he would be just incredibly quick and he'd be all 998 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.440 on top of you and and we had a number 999 01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.920 of fun I was thinking about some other funny people too. 1000 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.719 Ken Griffyr is funny. Uh Andre Robertson. There's just a 1001 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.840 whole bunch of just it's hard to find out who's 1002 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:34.760 not funny everybody. Some are funnier than others. But yeah, 1003 01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:43.280 it's uh yeah, yeah, they're just and there's a lot 1004 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:45.440 of down times, so it makes it makes it fun 1005 01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.920 sometimes when you when you're around people. There are enough 1006 01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.960 situations too that are are humorous. So if they can 1007 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.039 bring out even more humor out of that, then it's 1008 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.039 it's

even no doubt more enjoy. 1009 01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:58.079 I've got one more question for you, but before we 1010 01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.119 jump off, I did want to promote your movie one 1011 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:03.519 more time. Sure, if you're if you're listening, check out 1012 01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:06.559 Reunion one away. I actually found it on Amazon, so 1013 01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.800 it's you said. It's available on IMDb dot com. But 1014 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:11.920 also I found it. 1015 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.679 Yeah, you can download it from it. Yeah, you can 1016 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:18.199 download it from his IMDb. 1017 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:20.320 Where do you get more money? We'll tell people to do. 1018 01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:23.320 It from there, as well as as the way you go. 1019 01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:30.119 Many think, let's see how much how much did I 1020 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:35.079 clear last year? Can I've gone to dinner with it? Okay? 1021 01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:38.599 And I also have if I may, I also have. 1022 01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:44.920 I also have a book that's on Kendall and and 1023 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.280 if you get the book, the hard copy, get it, 1024 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.440 get the twenty eighteen edition of it. It's called A 1025 01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:56.039 Year in Pinstripes and then some and it's a lot 1026 01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:02.039 about the eighty five Yankee team and or and uh, 1027 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.440 a little bit about my growing up and some about 1028 01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:06.360 the other two teams that I played with as well. 1029 01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.800 But that but try to get to twenty eighteen edition 1030 01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:13.679 because it has it has some upgrades to it, some 1031 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:18.119 editions that I put on it, and and hopefully that 1032 01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:22.960 doesn't have any misspelled names like I did in one 1033 01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.679 of them. I think I misspelled corson Wells. I left 1034 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.400 out one of I spelled a w E l l 1035 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:30.840 S instead of w E l l e s. And 1036 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.639 that was in the first one. Going how about reading 1037 01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:34.199 the whole book. 1038 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:35.679 I believe your editor. 1039 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:40.960 Though you hear people say they don't read their whole book. Yeah, now, 1040 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.880 I just get a good editor, because my goodness, I 1041 01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:48.039 was so fortunate they have good editors. I'd like to write, 1042 01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:51.719 but it's just my syntaxis kind. 1043 01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:53.760 Of the same with you. I wrote a screenplay also, 1044 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:56.159 and that that was the most fun I've ever had, 1045 01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.840 you know, in that type of way. But the editing 1046 01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.239 is miserable, Like you just go back and back and back, 1047 01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.039 and it's there's a point where I'd rather pay somebody 1048 01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:05.440 to do it, but I don't know who to pay 1049 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.719 to do it, so it uh, yeah, it's a blast 1050 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.239 getting those stories and that those thoughts down on paper up. 1051 01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.320 I went, well, I'll just give you the elevator pitch 1052 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:16.800 real quick. I'm not trying to sell it to you. 1053 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:21.440 But me and my centerfielder in college, we painted a Lincoln, 1054 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:25.719 a nineteen seventy nine Lincoln Continental baby blue. We chopped 1055 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:28.119 the roof off of it with a sawsaw, and we 1056 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:32.039 drove it across country. And so my screenplay is, you know, 1057 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.320 so all the stories and all the people we met, 1058 01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.239 like driving in this car with no roof and it 1059 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.280 just had so much fun. So that's and I think 1060 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:41.639 the story's really good. I just don't know that I'm 1061 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:45.360 smart enough to tell it in a way that, you know, 1062 01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.039 without all the editing. It definitely needs work, but it 1063 01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:49.679 was a cool story. 1064 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.239 Now you're going to make a book out of it? 1065 01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:55.440 Before the screenplay. 1066 01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.519 I wrote it as a screenplay, but I'm starting to 1067 01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.760 feel like it would be better is a book as 1068 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:04.760 I've finished it. So and I'm just. 1069 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.039 Well, if you're writing as a screenplay, the editing is 1070 01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:13.679 editing is probably not all that important. But if you're yeah, 1071 01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:16.400 if you want to and I self published my book, 1072 01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:18.639 I have to admit I self published my book like 1073 01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:24.960 I I produced my own movie. Somebody said I didn't 1074 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.320 have enough name recognition to sell a book, So okay, 1075 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:35.480 I'll publish it myself. At least I I I play 1076 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:38.079 hated my own ego if if no one else has 1077 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:42.280 what it month. But yeah, if you have a there's 1078 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:46.599 more means of expression now that you can get out. 1079 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:51.679 But if you want to do it, do it, and 1080 01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:54.960 you just never know, you just never know. I keep 1081 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.000 waiting for my youngest son, too to hit his billion 1082 01:04:59.079

--> 01:05:01.679 dollar stride. He's if you need. 1083 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:04.880 An extra, you need an extra in that volunteer. I 1084 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.239 love to be a part of anything you do. Sure, 1085 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:08.480 I'll be a guy in the background. 1086 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.920 Oh sure, Oh sure. Well actually I was with a 1087 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:18.679 guy and we were thinking about this, and we we 1088 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:21.840 had everything but the funding and and and we had 1089 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:26.159 some actors lined up. We had John Amos had committed 1090 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:32.000 to a role and John since passed away, So you 1091 01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.400 can can tell how long it's been putting this together. 1092 01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:40.039 We had what else do we have in there? It 1093 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:44.679 was a great story. Uh. The guy who wrote it 1094 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:47.280 is he spent some time he's from Virginia too, and 1095 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.519 he spent some time in at Glender High School in Salem, 1096 01:05:52.280 --> 01:06:00.360 and he's a white man who has he was it 1097 01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.159 seemed like he went through harassment because he had the 1098 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:07.920 same name as the civil rights leader James Meredith, and 1099 01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:12.440 he has internalized a lot of what he went through 1100 01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:19.800 as a high school student in Salem. And it's really 1101 01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:24.119 heartfelt and it's but it's got a good backstory to it, 1102 01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:29.119 and it seems as though we've gotten closer and closer 1103 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:34.079 to funding it, and maybe we will because we've done 1104 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.480 about everything aside from that. And he had the kid 1105 01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:43.320 who was going to play a significant portion, who also 1106 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.960 had his Law and Order days. A lot of charactors, 1107 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.719 especially from the East Coast of New York, have had 1108 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:56.159 their Law and Order appearances and whatever the New York stuff. Yeah, yeah, 1109 01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:58.360 it seems like everybody to be an actor in the 1110 01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.159 East Coast, you got to go through. You got somebody 1111 01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:02.800 was you need your credibility. 1112 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:05.559 Somebody recently on a late night talk show was saying 1113 01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:07.960 that you really haven't made it until you've been a 1114 01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.119 dead body on Lae Order. So I thought that was 1115 01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:15.840 pretty funny. 1116 01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.880 Yes, yeah, So we'll see if it puts if it 1117 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:21.440 gets put. 1118 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:22.000 To sure, hope. 1119 01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:25.480 So well, we've been at it for a while, and and. 1120 01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.440 What's my I hope, so I hope it gets made. 1121 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.360 I think I really liked Yeah, oh you. 1122 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:35.880 Hope so oh yeah, oh yes, thank you, oh yes, 1123 01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:39.840 thank you. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll yeah, 1124 01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:43.360 as soon as soon as my producer son comes up 1125 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:47.559 with the money, well we'll put you on the list 1126 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:53.840 of of actors. And yeah, yeah, And I've been into 1127 01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.079 I've been in a couple of movies you alluded to 1128 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:01.159 earlier about my acting background. I'd been in a couple 1129 01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:03.199 of I had a buddy that put me into a 1130 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:07.599 couple of his horror films, so I got a taste 1131 01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.719 of the background a little bit, and I usually get 1132 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:13.159 more than one or two lines. 1133 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.479 But really it's not an easy still alive. 1134 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.600 Yeah, I survived about two or three of them. 1135 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:21.720 Very good. 1136 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:23.560 I can come back again to. 1137 01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:28.159 Me in all the sequels. 1138 01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.439 Yeah, yeah, better be careful. No, I'm going to get 1139 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:37.680 knocked off somewhere, but so far I'm still there. I 1140 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:40.079 make I might make fifty dollars next time. 1141 01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:48.399 Dollars. I always say so, right. 1142 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:53.920 Growing up like we did ye fifty Oh. I didn't 1143 01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:59.119 see my first one hundred dollars bill until I mentioned 1144 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.720 the Valley League. First year there, we won the regular 1145 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:06.720 season and the late great gym Line Weaver and everybody's 1146 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:09.600 great because I'm at the top end of the pyramid now. 1147 01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.880 He owned a team in Harrisonburg where I played, and 1148 01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:19.159 he gave us a bat of champagne. We all had champagne, 1149 01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.199 probably cold duck or something like that. It didn't cost much, 1150 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.600 and he gave each one ups one hundred dollars bill. 1151 01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:31.119 Yeah that's really cool. Yeah, I don't know if I 1152 01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:33.039 didn't see too many twenties back in the day, but 1153 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:36.279 I could completely relate to that. 1154 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:42.279 I'm yeah, well, Billy, I guess I'll let you get 1155 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:45.560 out of here. The one final question before you take off, 1156 01:09:45.680 -->

01:09:48.000 and obviously you can add anything else you want to 1157 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.720 add too, But did you have a moment or like 1158 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.760 your favorite moment on the baseball field and the majors 1159 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.279 that really was like when you go when you're going 1160 01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:58.800 to sleep at night and you want something peaceful, you 1161 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.239 remember that moment. It was like a really great baseball moment. 1162 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.800 I tell you, that's a great question. I don't think 1163 01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:10.319 I've ever told anybody interviewing me that that's a great 1164 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:14.199 great that's a great question. Actually, I do. I think 1165 01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:17.840 the one time that I come back to a moment, 1166 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:21.880 and in a way, it's kind of sad that I 1167 01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.319 didn't have many moments like this. But I only had 1168 01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:28.760 one home run and we were trailing at the time 1169 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:38.119 and we're playing Angels, and Mike Richard and Bill Stein 1170 01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:42.720 got on base with two out and the count went 1171 01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:48.960 to three to two against Don Assi, and no, well 1172 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:50.720 he missed with the two too. He missed. He tried 1173 01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:54.279 a too two curveball, left it upstairs, and I figured 1174 01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:57.600 they're in first place where wherever we are, they're not 1175 01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:01.079 gonna waste a bitch through a high fian And it 1176 01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:03.439 was pretty much a high fastball hitter, a picture, and 1177 01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:07.479 I was assball. Tried again, high fastball hitter, and I 1178 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:11.920 hit a home run and I said his home run. 1179 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:16.560 And as I was rounding the bases, it seemed so loud, 1180 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.119 and there were about fifteen thousands. It wasn't like it 1181 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:22.720 was forty five thousand. It was fifteen thousand or so. 1182 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:28.039 It seems so loud that it sounded silent to me. Yeah, 1183 01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:29.720 I don't know if you can picture that, but it 1184 01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:33.680 was just I'm running around the basis and it's it's 1185 01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:40.399 just everybody just got so loud that within that vocalness, 1186 01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:45.239 it sounded silent. Everything just it was. It was a 1187 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:51.039 neat feeling and unfortunately only only experienced at once. But 1188 01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:54.520 it was just a neat feeling. And I think of 1189 01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:58.239 myself as not being very emotional or I kind of 1190 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.079 take things and stride. But I saw a replay of 1191 01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:06.119 it and I was jumping up and down. Yeah, that 1192 01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:09.640 was that was That was probably the moment I flashed 1193 01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:10.000 back to. 1194 01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:12.640 Him that's an amazing moment. And I've got a buddy 1195 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:16.479 that that always says it's a true walk off when 1196 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:18.239 you're down. When you hit the home run, too, he 1197 01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:21.119 will say, if it's if the score is tied, you know, 1198 01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.920 it's not necessarily walk off. So that's a real walk off. 1199 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:29.119 Yeah. Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel the 1200 01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:31.279 same way he does. That it means a little more 1201 01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.159 if you're trailing at the time than it does if 1202 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:36.600 you're tied at the time. Yeah, so that made it 1203 01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:37.159 even better. 1204 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.359 Well, Billy, thank you so much for coming on the show. 1205 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:43.079 Well, thank you for letting me get all that out 1206 01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:43.359 of mind. 1207 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:45.359 Yeah, we'd love to have you back as often as 1208 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.199 you want. I mean, we just we get on here 1209 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:51.159 and usually I mean we may actually to get on 1210 01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:54.359 your politics out too, and and we'll start talking about that. 1211 01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:55.960 But I love it's nice. 1212 01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.479 That's fine. I I I thank you sense that I'm not. 1213 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.159 About It's a nice break to not talk about it. 1214 01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:05.960 In fact, I think I've I've lost a couple of people. 1215 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:08.680 It's a nice break. Let's talk baseball with you, though. 1216 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:11.039 It's a nice break talk politics. 1217 01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:16.199 Yeah, all right, Well you get you can get back 1218 01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.319 with me and you can talk. You set the awesome 1219 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:19.800 theme for this. 1220 01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:21.720 It's been a real pleasure. Thank you for coming on 1221 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.640 the show, and uh I look forward to spending the 1222 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:27.279 next decade or so aggravating you and sending you more 1223 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:28.359 stuff to sign for me. 1224 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:34.880 Oh, no problem, Noy's billy, take care. 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