บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ It’s Giving… Ghosted & Scammed

00:03:02.792 --> 00:03:03.973 They sponsor my show. 94 00:03:03.993 --> 00:03:05.916 So, you know, they were just like, oh, we'll send you more. 95 00:03:05.956 --> 00:03:11.704 But, like, I understand in this economy, maybe somebody didn't tip that DoorDash or well enough, and he said, I'm leaving with something. 96 00:03:12.164 --> 00:03:13.385 Damn, that is crazy. 97 00:03:13.746 --> 00:03:16.048 Or maybe they came down the elevator and they took it back. 98 00:03:16.088 --> 00:03:16.828 They took the tip back. 99 00:03:16.848 --> 00:03:17.449 They be doing that. 100 00:03:17.609 --> 00:03:19.270 People be taking the tip back and tricking people. 101 00:03:20.131 --> 00:03:23.834 That is actually nuts, but I do understand. 102 00:03:24.014 --> 00:03:24.195 Yeah. 103 00:03:24.535 --> 00:03:27.558 Well, they do that around my old neighborhood. 104 00:03:27.598 --> 00:03:29.219 They would steal packages from your door. 105 00:03:29.519 --> 00:03:29.800 Yeah. 106 00:03:30.040 --> 00:03:33.523 And someone stole a full-on wooden bench from the front of my door. 107 00:03:34.923 --> 00:03:35.643 That's wild. 108 00:03:35.683 --> 00:03:36.664 They just take it anything. 109 00:03:36.684 --> 00:03:37.224 But it was huge. 110 00:03:37.284 --> 00:03:38.565 I wonder if it had to be a partner. 111 00:03:38.665 --> 00:03:40.386 It was huge. 112 00:03:40.546 --> 00:03:41.006 It was huge. 113 00:03:41.066 --> 00:03:46.589 And in the middle of the night, we were on vacation and there was a big, big box. 114 00:03:46.889 --> 00:03:49.851 An older gentleman came right to the door, picked up the box and put it in his car. 115 00:03:50.171 --> 00:03:51.812 Oh, it sounds like he was in great shape. 116 00:03:52.352 --> 00:03:53.133 That's what I'm saying. 117 00:03:53.173 --> 00:03:54.573 It had to be tandem if it wasn't. 118 00:03:54.753 --> 00:03:59.076 I just feel like what makes you want to take things that you're not sure if you need it? 119 00:03:59.736 --> 00:04:01.096 That's the part I want to understand. 120 00:04:01.116 --> 00:04:04.757 Because of the economy we're in right now, people don't even care if they need it. 121 00:04:04.777 --> 00:04:05.618 They're not even going to go to check. 122 00:04:05.658 --> 00:04:06.498 You want to sell it? 123 00:04:06.518 --> 00:04:06.658 Maybe. 124 00:04:06.758 --> 00:04:08.138 They're going to do something with it. 125 00:04:08.158 --> 00:04:08.938 They can figure it out. 126 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.659 I think that that is actually crazy. 127 00:04:12.279 --> 00:04:14.500 I mean, it is crazy and I hate that it's happening. 128 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:15.560 It didn't used to be like that. 129 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:17.921 Apparently, people used to leave their doors unlocked to places. 130 00:04:17.941 --> 00:04:18.041 Yeah. 131 00:04:18.481 --> 00:04:21.802 But at the same time, you know, scamming is a job. 132 00:04:21.982 --> 00:04:25.123 It seems like he worked pretty hard to pick that bench up. 133 00:04:25.943 --> 00:04:28.605 So let's talk about our costumes and why. 134 00:04:28.625 --> 00:04:29.265 Okay. 135 00:04:29.465 --> 00:04:30.406 So you go first. 136 00:04:31.366 --> 00:04:32.347 Oh, is it not obvious? 137 00:04:33.667 --> 00:04:40.251 No, so I am a Gen Z iced coffee that you're not supposed to bring to your interview, but you can bring me anywhere. 138 00:04:40.271 --> 00:04:40.471 Okay. 139 00:04:40.491 --> 00:04:41.151 You'll get the job. 140 00:04:41.171 --> 00:04:42.392 I'm a personality hire. 141 00:04:42.792 --> 00:04:43.513 Oh, okay. 142 00:04:43.593 --> 00:04:44.413 Love that for you. 143 00:04:44.453 --> 00:04:44.854 Vanna? 144 00:04:45.474 --> 00:04:52.798 Well, I was supposed to be Whitney Houston, you know, because of Dolly and Whitney, but my closet was not calling for it. 145 00:04:52.818 --> 00:04:54.599 So I am not going to cry Mary J. 146 00:04:54.958 --> 00:04:55.238 today. 147 00:04:55.378 --> 00:04:56.359 I love that for you. 148 00:04:56.419 --> 00:05:03.943 And obviously girls and guys, I am Dolly Parton because I love her so much. 149 00:05:04.444 --> 00:05:06.645 Savannah, tell us, why do you love Halloween? 150 00:05:07.866 --> 00:05:10.067 I think Halloween is so fun. 151 00:05:10.327 --> 00:05:13.429 I love seeing people's creativity with their costumes. 152 00:05:13.649 --> 00:05:16.291 I love getting dressed up and going through the whole thought process. 153 00:05:17.113 --> 00:05:18.894 I'm picking what I'm gonna be for Halloween. 154 00:05:19.194 --> 00:05:24.855 When I was younger, I used to love trick or treating, even though I ate none of the candy, cause I was, I just wasn't a sweet kid like that. 155 00:05:24.915 --> 00:05:26.856 But I just thought, I think Halloween is fun. 156 00:05:27.656 --> 00:05:31.397 And do you feel like, what was your best Halloween costume thus far? 157 00:05:31.497 --> 00:05:33.237 Oh my gosh, it's hard to choose. 158 00:05:34.157 --> 00:05:34.778 I go there. 159 00:05:34.918 --> 00:05:39.859 I think when I was just Miss Akron, Ohio, but it was a nod to Miss Argentina from Beetlejuice. 160 00:05:40.747 --> 00:05:41.809 That was probably my favorite. 161 00:05:41.889 --> 00:05:43.191 That makeup took six hours. 162 00:05:43.512 --> 00:05:44.634 Ooh, okay, Hattie Clove. 163 00:05:44.754 --> 00:05:46.537 So that... See, that's... 164 00:05:46.557 --> 00:05:47.539 I'll be into it. 165 00:05:47.619 --> 00:05:48.921 That is how serious I take it. 166 00:05:49.382 --> 00:05:51.265 But just recently, I think that was definitely... 167 00:05:51.840 --> 00:05:52.260 One of my babies. 168 00:05:52.280 --> 00:05:52.960 And Lacey, what about you? 169 00:05:54.521 --> 00:05:58.322 So I was in Ireland where Halloween originated for the past two years. 170 00:05:58.402 --> 00:06:01.682 But before that, it ended up being my favorite costume. 171 00:06:02.082 --> 00:06:04.763 I talk about on my podcast, Scam Goddess, that I'm a bad driver. 172 00:06:04.783 --> 00:06:05.663 I need

to stop doing that. 173 00:06:05.683 --> 00:06:06.944 It's honestly probably a liability. 174 00:06:07.944 --> 00:06:11.525 But my fans know that I got dropped from an insurance company. 175 00:06:11.585 --> 00:06:13.065 I was no longer in good hands. 176 00:06:13.465 --> 00:06:16.306 And they were like, well, where, what do you have now? 177 00:06:16.446 --> 00:06:17.546 And we know you got the general. 178 00:06:17.566 --> 00:06:18.946 And I was like, I don't have the general. 179 00:06:19.426 --> 00:06:21.647 And finally I gave in because I did have 180 00:06:21.928 --> 00:06:22.389 Jenna. 181 00:06:23.953 --> 00:06:30.816 And so I dressed up as the general and I carried around a cardboard cut out of shack all night long. 182 00:06:31.336 --> 00:06:36.819 And unfortunately I goofied too close to the sun because I ended up on inside the NBA at Jackson. 183 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:37.739 Oh my God. 184 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.760 I was like, Oh no, it was supposed to go this far. 185 00:06:39.780 --> 00:06:40.480 I called my reps. 186 00:06:40.500 --> 00:06:42.922 I was like, Hey y'all, I'm so sorry. 187 00:06:43.242 --> 00:06:44.542 But it was so fun. 188 00:06:44.562 --> 00:06:45.143 It was fun. 189 00:06:45.263 --> 00:06:46.203 I love Halloween. 190 00:06:46.303 --> 00:06:48.044 I'm not, I love Halloween. 191 00:06:48.064 --> 00:06:49.485 Cause my friend loves it. 192 00:06:49.545 --> 00:06:52.426 I don't genuinely love the holiday, but I, 193 00:06:52.826 --> 00:06:54.426 I feel like I get dressed. 194 00:06:54.506 --> 00:06:56.647 They throw some of the best Halloween parties. 195 00:06:57.287 --> 00:07:01.047 So, but we had a Halloween party with our other friend one year. 196 00:07:01.608 --> 00:07:03.128 And I was Jessica Rabbit. 197 00:07:03.528 --> 00:07:04.348 And that was fun. 198 00:07:04.388 --> 00:07:05.648 And I had prosthetic boobs. 199 00:07:06.188 --> 00:07:08.069 I really wanted to do that for y'all today. 200 00:07:08.149 --> 00:07:09.469 But that also took six hours. 201 00:07:09.489 --> 00:07:10.029 Did you need them? 202 00:07:10.469 --> 00:07:11.329 Not to be looking. 203 00:07:11.689 --> 00:07:12.969 Not to be overly looking. 204 00:07:13.029 --> 00:07:14.730 I told her all she needed was a push-up. 205 00:07:15.010 --> 00:07:17.310 She was in there. 206 00:07:17.350 --> 00:07:19.031 I give y'all something at Dollywood. 207 00:07:19.271 --> 00:07:19.871 There you go. 208 00:07:20.171 --> 00:07:20.691 All right. 209 00:07:20.771 --> 00:07:21.331 Dollywood. 210 00:07:22.411 --> 00:07:25.994 So when are you, what are you too grown to be scared of? 211 00:07:26.835 --> 00:07:30.218 I mean, I think in the context of Halloween, the dark, like, come on guys. 212 00:07:31.078 --> 00:07:31.639 I know people. 213 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.261 I know people today who sleep with the TV on. 214 00:07:35.398 --> 00:07:35.758 Okay, well. 215 00:07:35.778 --> 00:07:36.459 We're scared of the dark. 216 00:07:36.659 --> 00:07:37.160 I'm

people. 217 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:37.460 Come on. 218 00:07:37.981 --> 00:07:38.782 You sleep at the TV? 219 00:07:39.002 --> 00:07:40.503 But it's not because you're scared of the dark, right? 220 00:07:40.543 --> 00:07:42.065 It's the background noise, right, Lacey? 221 00:07:42.085 --> 00:07:42.405 I don't know. 222 00:07:42.445 --> 00:07:45.028 Like, if my refrigerator makes ice, I'm like, hello? 223 00:07:46.249 --> 00:07:48.231 I'm automatically in a 90s horror film. 224 00:07:48.291 --> 00:07:49.372 I know I'm dying first. 225 00:07:49.492 --> 00:07:53.777 I was just about to say, that is rule number one for getting killed. 226 00:07:53.937 --> 00:07:54.758 You're not saying hello. 227 00:07:54.858 --> 00:07:54.978 Yeah. 228 00:07:56.570 --> 00:07:57.411 This isn't funny. 229 00:07:57.451 --> 00:07:58.111 This isn't funny. 230 00:07:58.312 --> 00:07:59.553 I'm like in my house by myself. 231 00:07:59.573 --> 00:08:00.413 This isn't funny. 232 00:08:00.433 --> 00:08:01.674 Yeah. 233 00:08:01.734 --> 00:08:04.657 I would say mind the dark and also the shower. 234 00:08:04.697 --> 00:08:06.639 Like not afraid to bathe, please. 235 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:07.540 Please. 236 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:08.340 We do that. 237 00:08:08.721 --> 00:08:10.402 But we do it well. 238 00:08:10.742 --> 00:08:11.523 And we do it well. 239 00:08:11.743 --> 00:08:14.125 But when I'm in the shower, I feel my most vulnerable. 240 00:08:14.205 --> 00:08:17.528 I feel like that would be, like, the most embarrassing place to be, like, attacked. 241 00:08:17.889 --> 00:08:21.532 And so, like, I keep my, like, I just keep, like, the little door open a little bit. 242 00:08:21.552 --> 00:08:26.836 And I keep all my doors in my bathroom open so I can just, like, peek out every now and then just in case the killer comes. 243 00:08:27.417 --> 00:08:28.858 I don't know if y'all are familiar with Wendy Williams. 244 00:08:28.878 --> 00:08:30.079 She always talk about the killer. 245 00:08:30.420 --> 00:08:32.742 And I'm like, yeah, if I hear a noise, I'm like, it's the killer. 246 00:08:33.122 --> 00:08:33.582 Oh, my God. 247 00:08:33.602 --> 00:08:34.023 Yeah. 248 00:08:34.083 --> 00:08:35.904 I don't want to be fighting for my life booty naked. 249 00:08:35.924 --> 00:08:36.905 That's just, that's bad. 250 00:08:36.925 --> 00:08:37.145 I feel you. 251 00:08:37.165 --> 00:08:37.526 I can't do that. 252 00:08:37.566 --> 00:08:38.347 I don't think that's a good idea. 253 00:08:38.367 --> 00:08:38.807 Yeah, I don't. 254 00:08:38.947 --> 00:08:41.728 I don't know that anything comes top of mind to be scared of. 255 00:08:42.688 --> 00:08:43.408 Oh, you fearless. 256 00:08:46.489 --> 00:08:46.889 Okay. 257 00:08:47.089 --> 00:08:52.891 I mean, I don't think I get... Yeah, I don't think it's something that comes... No, that's funny. 258 00:08:52.911 --> 00:08:58.232 I was going to say not bugs or nothing, but you will pick up a bug with your bare hand and be like, okay, just throw it outside. 259 00:08:58.252 --> 00:08:59.613 How are you doing that? 260 00:08:59.633 --> 00:09:00.553 Yeah, I'm not... 261 00:09:00.673 --> 00:09:04.454 I don't think that there is many things that automatically... 262 00:09:05.534 --> 00:09:07.235 Fear me, which is interesting. 263 00:09:07.375 --> 00:09:09.076 Wow, that makes me scared of you. 264 00:09:09.316 --> 00:09:11.016 Yeah, I'm working on that. 265 00:09:11.597 --> 00:09:12.077 Oh, gosh. 266 00:09:12.177 --> 00:09:13.177 I don't know. 267 00:09:13.197 --> 00:09:14.858 I feel like that's a great skill to have. 268 00:09:14.998 --> 00:09:16.339 I mean, I think it is. 269 00:09:16.359 --> 00:09:19.020 I do think it is, but I don't think... 270 00:09:20.054 --> 00:09:30.281 Now, listen, what I will say is I'm not going to put myself in a place where you're going to have a bunch of fictitious, scary shit like Halloween Horror Nights. 271 00:09:30.582 --> 00:09:31.963 Because I was scared there. 272 00:09:32.643 --> 00:09:33.844 I was like, get me the hell out of here. 273 00:09:33.864 --> 00:09:35.225 Savannah's like, this is great. 274 00:09:35.345 --> 00:09:39.388 I was like, this little people and pigs and all kinds of stuff going around. 275 00:09:39.408 --> 00:09:41.469 I was like, that was too much for me. 276 00:09:42.090 --> 00:09:43.191 It was too much for me. 277 00:09:43.631 --> 00:09:44.191 I love it. 278 00:09:44.211 --> 00:09:48.855 So that, I don't like the idea of putting myself someplace with like... 279 00:09:49.655 --> 00:10:15.923 everything feeling scary yeah and they're also artists who are really dedicated to their crafts so they're trying to get you no i ran into the store i was waiting it was i was waiting in the gift shop blow it out blow it out okay are we blowing the camera real quick we're gonna blow it out okay oh my gosh oh my god it it really does look like the black flame candle or maybe i should see the glasses you got it 280 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:18.221 I'm giving it all I got. 281 00:10:18.341 --> 00:10:19.181 Here, give her a card. 282 00:10:19.261 --> 00:10:19.801 Give her a card. 283 00:10:19.821 --> 00:10:26.964 Okay. 284 00:10:26.984 --> 00:10:28.745 Yo, everybody's great. 285 00:10:28.845 --> 00:10:33.727 When someone scares you, are you fight or flight type of person? 286 00:10:35.255 --> 00:10:46.978 It depends on the situation because sometimes I feel like, I don't know, there was this quote Mike Tyson had that he said like a lot of the reason that he was successful in boxing matches is that he wasn't scared to get hit in the face. 287 00:10:47.598 --> 00:10:48.378 And most people are. 288 00:10:48.398 --> 00:10:49.518 That's the first thing you protect. 289 00:10:49.898 --> 00:10:52.119 So if you put your hands on you like, I'm crazier. 290 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:53.079 I'm crazier than you. 291 00:10:53.439 --> 00:10:56.300 Like sometimes that intimidation, people like, you know what? 292 00:10:56.560 --> 00:10:57.400 I won't mess with

you. 293 00:10:57.760 --> 00:11:03.402 Like if I ever run up against somebody who has nothing to lose, that is the scariest person I've ever seen in my life. 294 00:11:03.442 --> 00:11:04.962 I'm like, okay, you got it. 295 00:11:05.322 --> 00:11:27.145 one you want parking spot you want you want my bag what do you need yeah but then other times like especially if i see like lots of people running i'm running too and you know i'll figure out why we ran when we get there exactly how about you um i think i'm fighting i don't really like to fight but if i was in a scary situation i'm not backing down 296 00:11:29.475 --> 00:11:44.892 it's giving flight I'm getting the fuck about there yeah I guess if someone is trying to attack or do something I think I may I just think the roar in me may come out yeah if it's not a fictitious scenario like horror nights and I know it's for entertainment I am getting the fuck out of there I'm saving myself 297 00:11:45.300 --> 00:11:45.500 Yeah. 298 00:11:46.061 --> 00:11:46.681 I don't know. 299 00:11:46.741 --> 00:11:47.162 I love that. 300 00:11:47.202 --> 00:11:48.983 Put your oxygen mask on and do it. 301 00:11:49.003 --> 00:11:49.684 I'm out of here. 302 00:11:49.844 --> 00:11:52.887 I think going back to your thing is the scenario. 303 00:11:53.207 --> 00:11:53.467 Yes. 304 00:11:54.188 --> 00:11:58.932 And I've never had to fight in my life, but there was one time where I had to convince somebody that I could fight. 305 00:11:59.252 --> 00:12:09.481 I was getting bullied in college and the girl was on, this is the early days of Twitter, and she was like, that's when we would subtweet because you didn't have to add anybody because it was only like 15 of us on there. 306 00:12:10.141 --> 00:12:15.262 And so she was, I don't know, a situation where she thought I stole a boyfriend. 307 00:12:15.282 --> 00:12:16.802 We're not getting into that. 308 00:12:16.822 --> 00:12:20.283 But she was like, this year is going to be really interesting. 309 00:12:20.323 --> 00:12:21.063 And I said, year? 310 00:12:21.083 --> 00:12:22.243 Year? 311 00:12:22.743 --> 00:12:23.844 No, we're not doing year. 312 00:12:24.004 --> 00:12:26.744 And my friends hyped me up, and I had put on some athletic clothes. 313 00:12:26.764 --> 00:12:27.524 And they were like, you know what? 314 00:12:27.544 --> 00:12:31.425 You should put some Vaseline on your face to really sell it, and the punches would slide off. 315 00:12:31.465 --> 00:12:32.865 And I was like, yes, I'm an actor. 316 00:12:32.905 --> 00:12:33.225 I don't know. 317 00:12:33.285 --> 00:12:34.666 I was like, I'm getting the character. 318 00:12:35.126 --> 00:12:37.006 And so, yeah, we pulled up, and I was like, 319 00:12:37.346 --> 00:12:49.989 this ends now and like i didn't want to fight i wasn't prepared to fight but i looked like i was crazy enough she never bothered me again i never fought i yeah i haven't had to 320 00:12:54.084 --> 00:12:56.386 And there she is. 321 00:12:56.406 --> 00:12:56.906 Do I look? 322 00:12:57.386 --> 00:12:58.588 And there she is. 323 00:12:58.608 --> 00:12:59.608 I have to do what I got to do. 324 00:12:59.809 --> 00:13:05.534 Well, our girl's here and we want to talk all things scam and ghost stories. 325 00:13:05.654 --> 00:13:12.179 So you, that's why we invited you because I think this is a territory we're not necessarily familiar with. 326 00:13:12.540 --> 00:13:13.120 That's good. 327 00:13:13.220 --> 00:13:17.104 So we want you to school us on what that looks like. 328 00:13:17.544 --> 00:13:17.824 Yes. 329 00:13:17.924 --> 00:13:21.925 Between scamming, ghosting, the differences, all the moving pieces. 330 00:13:22.545 --> 00:13:24.986 So tell us, first of all, how did you get the name? 331 00:13:26.166 --> 00:13:33.248 So I actually, the name was gifted to me from a friend of mine named Miles Gray, who has a podcast, The Daily Zeitgeist. 332 00:13:33.468 --> 00:13:37.049 And they ask you, like, what's in your search history, like, every time you go on. 333 00:13:37.269 --> 00:13:40.990 And for some reason, there was always some scam that I was looking up that I was interested in. 334 00:13:41.030 --> 00:13:42.451 And they started calling me the scam goddess. 335 00:13:42.471 --> 00:13:42.591 Yeah. 336 00:13:43.031 --> 00:13:47.775 And Scam Goddess was actually my own scam because I wanted to do a comedy podcast about current events. 337 00:13:47.815 --> 00:13:50.017 But at the time, they were like, the market's too saturated. 338 00:13:50.318 --> 00:13:50.898 We don't know you. 339 00:13:50.958 --> 00:13:51.779 We don't know the song. 340 00:13:52.199 --> 00:13:53.340 And so I was like, hmm. 341 00:13:53.621 --> 00:13:57.384 And true crime was blowing up, but it was mostly like, you know, murder. 342 00:13:57.444 --> 00:14:03.069 It's like people are, you know, listening to like a nice white lady get, you know, stabbed on a jog home or something. 343 00:14:03.089 --> 00:14:03.930 And I'm like, this is like, 344 00:14:04.430 --> 00:14:05.711 it gets to be too much. 345 00:14:05.811 --> 00:14:09.994 Like when I'm walking with my keys in between my fists, you know, everywhere, like I'm just a little too paranoid. 346 00:14:10.314 --> 00:14:12.776 But scams are fun because they're very unserious people. 347 00:14:12.816 --> 00:14:15.138 They wear costumes, they have accents. 348 00:14:15.158 --> 00:14:19.441 And I don't make fun of the victims of scams, but I have a lot of empathy for that. 349 00:14:19.801 --> 00:14:24.164 I believe everybody can get scammed because we all have needs and there's always somebody willing to prey on your needs. 350 00:14:24.384 --> 00:14:26.225 But a scammer, oh, I will laugh at you. 351 00:14:26.345 --> 00:14:28.327 And they are very just unserious people. 352 00:14:28.367 --> 00:14:32.650 And so the comedy kind of blended in and that was my Trojan horse into this industry. 353 00:14:32.970 --> 00:14:34.093 That's crazy. 354 00:14:34.133 -->

00:14:35.357 And how long have you been doing it? 355 00:14:35.718 --> 00:14:36.219 Six years. 356 00:14:37.202 --> 00:14:38.224 That's so interesting. 357 00:14:38.264 --> 00:14:41.353 And do you find the scams to get like more and more 358 00:14:41.995 --> 00:15:05.362 intriguing or do you like this is crazier or is it just repetitive same same we cover the gamut so people sometimes when they hear the word scam it's such a broad term they don't understand sometimes that scamming has different industries it's a profession it takes hard work so you could be in love fraud you could be in financial fraud you know running ponzi schemes you know bernie made off in it you could be in like 359 00:15:05.802 --> 00:15:07.183 Hand to interpersonal scams. 360 00:15:07.203 --> 00:15:10.525 Like you're calling people's phone, cold calling, telling them that this is the police. 361 00:15:10.565 --> 00:15:12.185 Go get me Walmart gift cards right now. 362 00:15:12.246 --> 00:15:13.186 Are we coming to pick you up? 363 00:15:13.206 --> 00:15:16.808 Like there's so many different ways to rob people that it keeps it interesting. 364 00:15:16.988 --> 00:15:18.469 And I like the scams of the past too. 365 00:15:18.509 --> 00:15:22.371 So sometimes we're talking about, you know, a stagecoach robbery in the 1800s. 366 00:15:22.391 --> 00:15:30.535 Or sometimes, you know, we're talking about the new AI frauds where they copy your voice and then call your grandparents and tell them you locked up and you need to send $1,500. 367 00:15:30.575 --> 00:15:31.996 So it's all over the place. 368 00:15:32.036 --> 00:15:33.077 It never gets boring. 369 00:15:33.097 --> 00:15:33.177 Wow. 370 00:15:34.142 --> 00:15:35.122 Unfortunately, it's crazy. 371 00:15:35.142 --> 00:15:36.363 I'm so intrigued by it. 372 00:15:36.403 --> 00:15:42.745 And then how do you do the research to figure out how the market, following the scam market? 373 00:15:43.145 --> 00:15:47.807 I mean, a lot of it comes to me and the people are really interested. 374 00:15:47.827 --> 00:15:52.149 They'll tag me in things or, you know, I'm looking myself because I'm deeply interested. 375 00:15:52.489 --> 00:15:54.610 It's very much not hard to find. 376 00:15:54.730 --> 00:15:55.090 Wow. 377 00:15:56.058 --> 00:15:58.179 Yes, I'm interested in some scammers who haven't gotten caught. 378 00:15:58.199 --> 00:16:04.243 But on my TV show, Scam Goddess on Hulu, I actually had the scary privilege to interview some scammers who were out of jail. 379 00:16:04.663 --> 00:16:08.865 And that was terrifying, like sitting down with a real sociopath and really like walking them down. 380 00:16:08.985 --> 00:16:13.968 But it's not hard to find because I call it the second oldest profession. 381 00:16:14.008 --> 00:16:15.669 People have been scamming since the beginning. 382 00:16:15.769 --> 00:16:16.770 You know what I mean? 383 00:16:16.870 --> 00:16:19.131 And doing the first profession too. 384 00:16:19.551 --> 00:16:24.894 Is there a story that you find the most intriguing or a scam that you was just like, 385 00:16:25.689 --> 00:16:27.931 took it over, like any specific one? 386 00:16:29.032 --> 00:16:32.015 It's so hard to choose between all of my children. 387 00:16:33.577 --> 00:16:39.022 But one that I really loved, it's actually the first episode on the Hulu show, is Rita Crundwell. 388 00:16:39.383 --> 00:16:48.532 She was a woman who worked in a small town in Dixon, Illinois, and she managed to siphon $53 million from this town. 389 00:16:48.612 --> 00:16:49.793 Like, made the town go broke. 390 00:16:50.193 --> 00:16:54.237 Because she had rich, she had charisma, she was a personality hire. 391 00:16:54.277 --> 00:16:59.661 She had been working at City Hall for so long, you know, since she was a teenager intern in there, that people trusted her. 392 00:16:59.761 --> 00:17:02.183 Eventually she became the treasurer and the comptroller. 393 00:17:02.424 --> 00:17:04.665 You are not supposed to have both of those jobs. 394 00:17:05.326 --> 00:17:07.488 That means you doing your own checks and balances. 395 00:17:07.508 --> 00:17:09.830 So who's really checking on the checks or the balances? 396 00:17:10.270 --> 00:17:11.131 Nobody. 397 00:17:11.331 --> 00:17:11.992 That's it. 398 00:17:12.653 --> 00:17:16.959 When I tell you the town was broke, they couldn't fix potholes. 399 00:17:16.979 --> 00:17:19.242 The ambulances were breaking down. 400 00:17:19.502 --> 00:17:20.904 She took everything. 401 00:17:20.984 --> 00:17:21.925 Did she get caught? 402 00:17:22.366 --> 00:17:25.511 She did it for 22 years before she got caught. 403 00:17:25.531 --> 00:17:26.993 22 of them things. 404 00:17:27.493 --> 00:17:27.974 Wow. 405 00:17:27.994 --> 00:17:28.775 And she's in prison. 406 00:17:28.795 --> 00:17:30.156 She had over 400 horses. 407 00:17:30.477 --> 00:17:31.758 Oh, no, she's already out. 408 00:17:31.778 --> 00:17:32.959 She got a COVID release. 409 00:17:32.999 --> 00:17:36.203 And then I love the audacity of her moving back to the same town. 410 00:17:36.303 --> 00:17:37.644 She lived there with her brother. 411 00:17:37.685 --> 00:17:38.285 Yes, she did. 412 00:17:38.305 --> 00:17:38.946 No, she did not. 413 00:17:38.986 --> 00:17:40.147 I was like, you are bold, ma'am. 414 00:17:40.167 --> 00:17:44.092 You robbed these people blind, and then you moved back like, hey, y'all, I'm back. 415 00:17:45.033 --> 00:17:46.975 That is actually... 416 00:17:47.415 --> 00:18:09.770 crazy yes she was like i'm no longer a guest of the state back in the city city girls up wait did you have the pleasure of speaking to her no we tried um but um they were really pushing me to like go to her house and i was like baby i'm not showing up to some white person's house unannounced okay y'all trying to get me shot i done counted three black people since i've been here and they were all with me yeah 417 00:18:11.271 --> 00:18:14.072 That is so crazy. 418 00:18:14.152

--> 00:18:15.633 That is actually so interesting. 419 00:18:15.653 --> 00:18:16.633 Now that I'm intrigued. 420 00:18:17.033 --> 00:18:17.313 Right? 421 00:18:17.393 --> 00:18:18.433 It's the audacity. 422 00:18:18.734 --> 00:18:23.775 But also, I think we can learn a lot from con artists, because I like to call them confidence artists, you know? 423 00:18:23.915 --> 00:18:24.975 Heavy on the CON. 424 00:18:25.316 --> 00:18:28.977 But, like, you don't have to feel like you don't belong in a room. 425 00:18:29.217 --> 00:18:35.779 Like, you can walk in and just treat it like this is the most ghetto shit you've ever seen in your life, and you will be shocked how people flock to you. 426 00:18:36.159 --> 00:18:41.423 And so I think we can all take something from the confidence of these people, you know, doing these ridiculous things. 427 00:18:42.064 --> 00:18:44.226 And, you know, that's what we can walk away with. 428 00:18:44.706 --> 00:18:50.651 And what have you seen the longest amount of time that someone has gotten doing a scam like criminal time? 429 00:18:51.777 --> 00:18:52.177 time. 430 00:18:52.297 --> 00:18:55.340 Like, I mean, people get consecutive years, like back to back to back. 431 00:18:55.560 --> 00:19:04.988 What's interesting to me, though, is that the people who do financial fraud tend to get longer sentences, especially if they do it to rich people. 432 00:19:05.068 --> 00:19:06.570 And I don't really think that's fair. 433 00:19:06.750 --> 00:19:09.052 Like, I think love fraud should have harsher sentences. 434 00:19:09.172 --> 00:19:14.457 I think that just because you rob rich people, like, that doesn't make that more egregious. 435 00:19:14.497 --> 00:19:16.619 You think love fraud should have more 436 00:19:17.983 --> 00:19:18.503 You do? 437 00:19:18.723 --> 00:19:19.664 I mean, it also involves money. 438 00:19:19.684 --> 00:19:21.405 I feel like you fell for it. 439 00:19:21.445 --> 00:19:24.367 See, that's where I have the empathy because everybody wants love. 440 00:19:24.527 --> 00:19:25.227 Okay, bud. 441 00:19:25.287 --> 00:19:29.590 I mean, we just saw that football man who walked around with that helmet a month or two ago. 442 00:19:29.610 --> 00:19:30.571 Insanity. 443 00:19:30.611 --> 00:19:31.831 And he had a prop. 444 00:19:32.132 --> 00:19:32.472 Insanity. 445 00:19:32.532 --> 00:19:33.693 I love that he had a prop. 446 00:19:33.853 --> 00:19:35.354 He said, I'm taking this everywhere. 447 00:19:35.394 --> 00:19:35.774 Yes. 448 00:19:36.254 --> 00:19:37.214 I bought myself one. 449 00:19:37.234 --> 00:19:38.475 I'm about to talk about it on my show. 450 00:19:38.735 --> 00:19:39.855 Why not get it off Amazon? 451 00:19:39.895 --> 00:19:41.436 I thought it was going to be like real size. 452 00:19:41.496 --> 00:19:41.976 It came in. 453 00:19:42.056 --> 00:19:42.936 It's like this big. 454 00:19:43.437 --> 00:19:45.457 So I just been telling people it shrunk in the wash. 455 00:19:45.617 --> 00:19:45.918 Right. 456 00:19:46.458 --> 00:19:47.918 I just sweated too much in the football. 457 00:19:47.938 --> 00:19:52.740 Yeah, I feel like love fraud is like you have to be in it to be a part of it. 458 00:19:52.800 --> 00:19:55.061 Whereas financial fraud is you're blindsided. 459 00:19:55.873 --> 00:19:56.874 Not necessarily. 460 00:19:57.034 --> 00:20:00.817 If it's a robbery, like this is a stick up, then yeah, you're blindsided. 461 00:20:00.937 --> 00:20:09.584 But financial fraud can be somebody pretending to have a lot of wealth or a lot of influence and being like, invest in this and this is how we're going to make the money and da-da-da-da-da. 462 00:20:09.884 --> 00:20:15.969 They can slow, like you got your Anna Delvey's, they can slowly walk you down the path and you have no idea. 463 00:20:15.989 --> 00:20:18.031 Yeah, that's so interesting. 464 00:20:19.410 --> 00:20:20.251 Having the audacity. 465 00:20:20.311 --> 00:20:21.472 That's all you got to do to be. 466 00:20:21.492 --> 00:20:22.073 Really? 467 00:20:22.093 --> 00:20:22.754 The audacity. 468 00:20:22.774 --> 00:20:24.355 We all need to have more audacity. 469 00:20:24.495 --> 00:20:24.876 Legally. 470 00:20:25.256 --> 00:20:25.696 Legally. 471 00:20:25.736 --> 00:20:25.997 Yes. 472 00:20:26.137 --> 00:20:26.918 Legal audacity. 473 00:20:27.158 --> 00:20:27.779 Audacity. 474 00:20:27.979 --> 00:20:28.960 I love that word though. 475 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:30.601 I love some audacity. 476 00:20:31.843 --> 00:20:32.283 Okay. 477 00:20:32.303 --> 00:20:34.225 So tell us a little bit more. 478 00:20:34.265 --> 00:20:35.466 What do you think is crazier? 479 00:20:35.506 --> 00:20:38.950 The person who pulls off a scam or people who believe them? 480 00:20:39.827 --> 00:20:44.070 I'm absolutely going to say the person who pulls off the scam, but it's two folds for me. 481 00:20:44.430 --> 00:20:55.698 Like Savannah said, the audacity of it, I do enjoy because if a door is closed and we're all black women, you know, like doors have been closed in our faces because of how our skin tone and our gender. 482 00:20:56.058 --> 00:20:59.941 But sometimes scammers see a door closed and they start looking for a window. 483 00:21:00.281 --> 00:21:02.622 I'm like, I'm just crack that open and get my ass in there that way. 484 00:21:02.982 --> 00:21:04.703 And so I like the ingenuity. 485 00:21:05.163 --> 00:21:07.765 But on the other side, I don't like when people punch down. 486 00:21:07.785 --> 00:21:10.066 There's so many companies, our government is scamming us. 487 00:21:10.086 --> 00:21:13.227 There's so many ways to like scam from the people taken from you. 488 00:21:13.587 --> 00:21:14.408 I like to see that. 489 00:21:14.488 --> 00:21:18.069 But if you're stealing from people who need their money and stuff like that, I just don't appreciate it. 490 00:21:18.149 --> 00:21:21.851 So I'm never going to cause somebody who fell victim to a scam crazy. 491 00:21:21.891 --> 00:21:22.472 You

know what I mean? 492 00:21:22.532 --> 00:21:23.872 I just think that they were vulnerable. 493 00:21:24.172 --> 00:21:25.493 Or maybe they were really desperate. 494 00:21:25.513 --> 00:21:25.653 I'm 495 00:21:25.693 --> 00:21:28.154 I always tell people, analyze your desperation at the time. 496 00:21:28.234 --> 00:21:37.458 So, you know, if all your friends got married and then all of a sudden you start dating somebody and they got a toothbrush in your house, you know, two weeks in, now you got a homosexual on your hands. 497 00:21:37.738 --> 00:21:40.539 It's probably because you were lonely, you know? 498 00:21:40.679 --> 00:21:40.919 Yeah. 499 00:21:41.099 --> 00:21:41.919 No, that's so true. 500 00:21:42.199 --> 00:21:43.660 Homosexual in real time. 501 00:21:43.700 --> 00:21:44.160 It's a term. 502 00:21:44.180 --> 00:21:44.781 It's hilarious. 503 00:21:46.618 --> 00:21:53.021 Were you always good at spotting bullshit or were you scammed first and then you were like, oh, now I understand it? 504 00:21:53.361 --> 00:21:56.623 I mean, I started my book with, which is also called Scam Goddess. 505 00:21:56.643 --> 00:21:58.344 I keep the brand strong. 506 00:21:59.384 --> 00:22:01.305 But it started with, I went missing when I was five. 507 00:22:01.626 --> 00:22:02.046 LOL. 508 00:22:02.886 --> 00:22:03.987 I mean, obviously I got back. 509 00:22:05.107 --> 00:22:06.108 Nobody actually took me. 510 00:22:06.168 --> 00:22:08.808 I was just running around the city for a whole day as a five-year-old. 511 00:22:08.828 --> 00:22:09.409 A whole day? 512 00:22:09.589 --> 00:22:14.810 But I had so many interactions with people that I started to realize that everything is made up. 513 00:22:15.451 --> 00:22:18.712 And to navigate this world, you have to be creative. 514 00:22:18.732 --> 00:22:21.533 That's an interesting take. 515 00:22:21.733 --> 00:22:23.693 You over here dropping them gems on the people. 516 00:22:24.014 --> 00:22:26.574 I do think you have to be creative to navigate the world. 517 00:22:26.795 --> 00:22:28.035 And audacious. 518 00:22:28.355 --> 00:22:29.555 And have audacity. 519 00:22:30.176 --> 00:22:30.956 And confident. 520 00:22:31.056 --> 00:22:33.857 I think all of those are very much so skills. 521 00:22:34.438 --> 00:22:42.141 That you need to even, like I recently said this, but it takes one delusional person to have generational wealth. 522 00:22:42.261 --> 00:22:48.084 Like when you're trying to thrive for something, you got to want to do it and no one else has to believe. 523 00:22:48.518 --> 00:22:50.158 So I guess that's a scam too. 524 00:22:50.939 --> 00:22:53.279 If you believe it, you can convince others to believe it too. 525 00:22:53.439 --> 00:22:55.000 Like, I mean, I'm an actor, performer. 526 00:22:55.060 --> 00:22:56.960 All the stuff that I do is make them ups. 527 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.041 I had to be real DeLulu to get people on board with this. 528 00:23:00.081 --> 00:23:01.962 I was like, y'all should just let me yap for a living. 529 00:23:02.042 --> 00:23:03.862 Or put me on screen and I'll yap your words. 530 00:23:04.142 --> 00:23:04.882 We like this? 531 00:23:04.922 --> 00:23:05.683 We all on board? 532 00:23:07.643 --> 00:23:08.163 I love it. 533 00:23:08.283 --> 00:23:09.303 I love it so much. 534 00:23:10.884 --> 00:23:11.984 What's up, everybody gang? 535 00:23:15.505 --> 00:23:17.526 So we've been talking about being cozied up with your man. 536 00:23:17.626 --> 00:23:20.789 And what better way to be cozied up than with a good set of PJs? 537 00:23:21.409 --> 00:23:22.330 And in the bed. 538 00:23:22.890 --> 00:23:25.972 I mean, I feel like I love to make my bed in the morning. 539 00:23:26.472 --> 00:23:27.973 I love to be cozy in my bed. 540 00:23:28.134 --> 00:23:29.074 I love a good sheet. 541 00:23:29.234 --> 00:23:30.435 I love a good blanket. 542 00:23:30.955 --> 00:23:33.697 I just bought some new pillowcases. 543 00:23:33.717 --> 00:23:34.518 Love that. 544 00:23:34.538 --> 00:23:35.939 But I also bought some new pillows. 545 00:23:36.585 --> 00:23:39.346 Okay, come on with the pillows because you're getting big. 546 00:23:39.466 --> 00:23:40.586 Yeah, I know. 547 00:23:40.626 --> 00:23:41.927 I was very proud of myself. 548 00:23:42.027 --> 00:23:43.587 You also have to set the ambiance. 549 00:23:43.627 --> 00:23:48.669 How about a good candle or diffuser or blanket to accent and set the tone? 550 00:23:49.049 --> 00:23:50.370 I feel like Quince has everything. 551 00:23:50.590 --> 00:23:52.070 They literally have everything. 552 00:23:52.210 --> 00:23:55.592 And that's what I like about being in a place where it's a one-stop shop. 553 00:23:55.712 --> 00:23:58.673 You can get everything for your home, something for you personally. 554 00:23:58.893 --> 00:23:59.693 Something for your man. 555 00:24:00.013 --> 00:24:01.273 Something for your family. 556 00:24:01.594 --> 00:24:02.494 So I just... 557 00:24:03.106 --> 00:24:06.908 feel like it's easy to go to places where you can shop and get it all done at once. 558 00:24:08.028 --> 00:24:10.549 Make your home a little bit more cozy this fall with Quince. 559 00:24:10.810 --> 00:24:11.770 Download the Quince app. 560 00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:13.531 Or go to Quince.com. 561 00:24:13.931 --> 00:24:18.153 You get free shipping on your orders and 365-day returns. 562 00:24:18.513 --> 00:24:20.774 Now available in Canada and the UK too. 563 00:24:21.374 --> 00:24:23.415 And when Quince asks, where have you heard about them? 564 00:24:23.675 --> 00:24:25.296 Just let them know it was everybody's crazy. 565 00:24:25.756 --> 00:24:27.237 It's the best way to support the show. 566 00:24:30.448 --> 00:24:30.989 It's crazy. 567 00:24:31.089 --> 00:24:31.509 All right. 568 00:24:31.529 --> 00:24:32.930 We're going to take a call. 569 00:24:34.252 --> 00:24:34.752 Hello. 570 00:24:35.152 --> 00:24:35.773 What's your name? 571 00:24:35.793 --> 00:24:36.454 Where are you from?

572 00:24:36.574 --> 00:24:37.575 And what is your crazy? 573 00:24:37.615 --> 00:24:41.338 And just to remind you, we have Lacey, scam goddess, here with us today. 574 00:24:42.018 --> 00:24:42.979 Hello. 575 00:24:43.700 --> 00:24:45.642 I'm so excited to be on with you guys. 576 00:24:45.842 --> 00:24:46.943 My name is Jen. 577 00:24:47.083 --> 00:24:47.603 I'm from Texas. 578 00:24:48.304 --> 00:24:49.065 Oh, I'm from Texas, too. 579 00:24:49.085 --> 00:24:49.625 Come on, dance. 580 00:24:49.745 --> 00:24:53.769 And I have a crazy scam that I witnessed. 581 00:24:54.510 --> 00:24:54.870 Mm-hmm. 582 00:24:55.533 --> 00:25:00.114 So I used this, I was really young, probably like 18, 19. 583 00:25:00.174 --> 00:25:05.596 I worked as a bank teller and I was a bank teller on a military base. 584 00:25:05.616 --> 00:25:11.598 And at the time, this was back in early 2000 where the war in Iraq was really active. 585 00:25:12.298 --> 00:25:14.239 So a lot of soldiers were deploying. 586 00:25:15.219 --> 00:25:18.460 So there was this one girl who would take the. 587 00:25:19.222 --> 00:25:27.066 a wife of a deployed soldier, befriend them because they're lonely, they're in a different state, you know, they're alone, basically. 588 00:25:27.126 --> 00:25:28.767 So befriend them. 589 00:25:29.007 --> 00:25:36.131 And at that time, also, the soldiers would get really big reenlistment bonuses because the war was so active. 590 00:25:36.151 --> 00:25:37.471 This was like in 2003. 591 00:25:38.052 --> 00:25:39.472 Nobody wanted to reenlist. 592 00:25:39.492 --> 00:25:46.796 So soldiers were reenlisting for bonuses 20, 30, 40,000 and up, depending your rank and time of service. 593 00:25:47.798 --> 00:25:51.982 this lady would find somebody who's about to reenlist. 594 00:25:52.503 --> 00:25:52.923 Was she cute? 595 00:25:52.943 --> 00:25:56.046 Was she cute? 596 00:25:56.066 --> 00:25:56.927 Did she dress nice? 597 00:25:57.928 --> 00:25:58.488 No. 598 00:25:58.849 --> 00:26:00.771 She just looked like a regular... Was she older? 599 00:26:01.451 --> 00:26:05.095 Did she have big boobs that people felt like they wanted to get a hug from her? 600 00:26:05.115 --> 00:26:06.516 Like some Oprah titties? 601 00:26:07.737 --> 00:26:09.339 I don't... She... 602 00:26:11.072 --> 00:26:11.793 I don't know how to say. 603 00:26:11.813 --> 00:26:14.054 She was like a regular white girl. 604 00:26:14.074 --> 00:26:14.935 Oh, okay. 605 00:26:15.195 --> 00:26:15.576 Okay. 606 00:26:16.276 --> 00:26:26.945 But she befriended this one particular wife and somehow conned her to change her direct deposit to her account, like, leave your husband. 607 00:26:27.305 --> 00:26:28.826 You don't know what he's doing over there. 608 00:26:28.866 --> 00:26:30.808 Like, I don't know, whatever she did. 609 00:26:31.949 --> 00:26:38.054 So the wife changed the direct deposit, thinking I'm going to go off in the wind with this woman. 610 00:26:38.074 --> 00:26:39.215 And... 611 00:26:40.415 --> 00:26:41.596 So she was a lesbian? 612 00:26:42.236 --> 00:26:43.737 At this, what did she say? 613 00:26:43.757 --> 00:26:44.298 Is she a lesbian? 614 00:26:44.438 --> 00:26:47.960 She's like, she thought they were going to go off together? 615 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:49.261 I don't know if she was a lesbian. 616 00:26:49.441 --> 00:26:54.004 I think she played the part for, the point was to get this money. 617 00:26:54.727 --> 00:26:55.067 Right. 618 00:26:55.208 --> 00:26:57.510 Yeah, so she played every part. 619 00:26:57.530 --> 00:27:02.274 So I don't know if she really was a lesbian or she played lesbian or whatever the situation was. 620 00:27:02.354 --> 00:27:06.377 But she convinced a woman to change her husband's direct deposit. 621 00:27:06.778 --> 00:27:13.183 His enlistment bonus of like $30,000 goes into her new best friend's account. 622 00:27:13.644 --> 00:27:16.266 She waited there probably like three hours. 623 00:27:16.586 --> 00:27:21.250 That woman, whoever she did, she had never, ever, never seen her again. 624 00:27:21.270 --> 00:27:22.071 Yes, yes. 625 00:27:22.653 --> 00:27:24.875 That is crazy. 626 00:27:25.695 --> 00:27:31.380 But I feel like people, I feel like people, you could convince people when they're like, again, what are you saying? 627 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.782 Vulnerable or lonely or something like that. 628 00:27:34.822 --> 00:27:35.543 People are nuts. 629 00:27:36.578 --> 00:27:38.879 I don't ever want to be that lonely and vulnerable in my life. 630 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:40.139 Me neither. 631 00:27:40.419 --> 00:27:41.259 What? 632 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:42.560 That's why you're not going to cry. 633 00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:44.380 That's why you got on this shit right now. 634 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:45.801 You're never going to be that vulnerable. 635 00:27:46.021 --> 00:27:46.481 What? 636 00:27:46.581 --> 00:27:48.181 But sometimes people are down bad. 637 00:27:48.882 --> 00:27:50.602 And, you know, war is very dangerous. 638 00:27:50.662 --> 00:27:52.883 George Bush was doing all kinds of things at that time. 639 00:27:53.663 --> 00:27:55.884 I miss when journalists used to throw shoes at presidents. 640 00:27:57.804 --> 00:28:02.370 But like that woman came in and was like, hey, bestie, put all your money in my account. 641 00:28:02.830 --> 00:28:04.132 That's that's a little while. 642 00:28:04.633 --> 00:28:07.356 She wasn't like, bestie, let me help you set up an account. 643 00:28:07.776 --> 00:28:10.159 Oh, did you say anything to her? 644 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:11.641 Did you say did you wink at it? 645 00:28:11.661 --> 00:28:12.402 Did you wave? 646 00:28:12.842 --> 00:28:14.504 They deployed about a year. 647 00:28:14.524 --> 00:28:17.408 They would be out there for about a year at a time at that time. 648 00:28:18.148 --> 00:28:39.327 and we forgot about this money the the wife the account the wife that switched her husband's direct deposit she would show up every day

we would pull up to work and we'd see we're like oh here's here go mrs so-and-so out the door you know we have to tell like we you like you can't get money out of somebody else's account that money was gone yeah that money was gone that money 649 00:28:40.352 --> 00:28:41.272 As soon as it hit. 650 00:28:41.633 --> 00:28:43.213 Yeah, it's out of there. 651 00:28:43.793 --> 00:28:44.914 Out of there. 652 00:28:45.134 --> 00:28:46.214 Oh, so devastating. 653 00:28:46.234 --> 00:28:54.017 So she just waiting at the bank every day like a kid with a deadbeat dad waiting outside for him to pick him up and take him to Disneyland. 654 00:28:54.357 --> 00:28:55.018 Damn. 655 00:28:55.138 --> 00:28:57.639 Okay, that was a crazy scam to experience. 656 00:28:57.999 --> 00:28:59.119 Thank you for calling us. 657 00:28:59.139 --> 00:29:00.840 Thank you for sharing, Dez. 658 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:01.780 Of course. 659 00:29:01.820 --> 00:29:02.601 Thank you all. 660 00:29:03.121 --> 00:29:04.341 All righty, thank you. 661 00:29:04.902 --> 00:29:06.602 That is actually nuts. 662 00:29:07.303 --> 00:29:07.683 That is nuts. 663 00:29:14.263 --> 00:29:32.002 okay so since this is the halloween episode and we are going to be talking about ghost stories not in the literal sense though we're going to be talking about how people disappear and never come back those types of ghost stories i don't like those ghost stories what is the worst ghost story you've experienced 664 00:29:33.436 --> 00:29:34.057 Oh, man. 665 00:29:34.197 --> 00:29:36.660 I haven't really been ghosted. 666 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.584 I think I would have appreciated it if somebody ghosted me. 667 00:29:39.924 --> 00:29:41.927 I've never been ghosted either, to be honest. 668 00:29:42.407 --> 00:29:42.788 Me neither. 669 00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:44.710 Well, obviously. 670 00:29:44.790 --> 00:29:47.293 Yeah, I'm about to say, is that only a dating thing? 671 00:29:47.714 --> 00:29:48.235 Could that... 672 00:29:48.715 --> 00:29:50.535 No, it's... That's just a people thing. 673 00:29:50.595 --> 00:29:51.696 Yeah, it's just a people thing. 674 00:29:51.916 --> 00:29:55.797 I think, like, sometimes people ghost because they want to skirt accountability. 675 00:29:55.837 --> 00:29:59.018 They don't want to have a difficult conversation about what they did. 676 00:29:59.278 --> 00:30:02.538 But then I think some people ghost because they're like, this isn't for me anymore. 677 00:30:02.819 --> 00:30:04.059 Have I ghosted? 678 00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:04.699 Yes. 679 00:30:05.479 --> 00:30:07.700 But, like, not in meaningful relationships. 680 00:30:07.780 --> 00:30:10.000 Maybe we went on one or two dates and you were weird. 681 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.921 And then I was like, I don't need to explain to you why you're weird. 682 00:30:13.081 --> 00:30:15.342 I'm just going to get out of this situation. 683 00:30:15.522 --> 00:30:15.722 Bye. 684 00:30:15.742 --> 00:30:15.862 Yeah. 685 00:30:16.322 -->

00:30:16.542 Yeah. 686 00:30:17.142 --> 00:30:18.683 I do not like ghosts in anybody. 687 00:30:19.684 --> 00:30:19.824 No. 688 00:30:22.045 --> 00:30:25.127 But Lacey, do you feel like sometimes a ghost is necessary? 689 00:30:25.608 --> 00:30:26.048 Yes. 690 00:30:26.268 --> 00:30:31.572 Sometimes I feel like we have to remember that every minute and every second that we're breathing is valuable. 691 00:30:31.592 --> 00:30:32.192 Absolutely. 692 00:30:32.212 --> 00:30:39.897 And so why would I waste my time explaining something to somebody who may not even comprehend or if I know there's not a solution or resolution to the problem. 693 00:30:40.038 --> 00:30:40.198 Yeah. 694 00:30:40.238 --> 00:30:41.358 So we just yapping to yap? 695 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.579 Like, for what? 696 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:43.400 I agree with you. 697 00:30:43.840 --> 00:30:44.360 I agree with that. 698 00:30:44.481 --> 00:30:46.022 I struggle with this so bad. 699 00:30:46.042 --> 00:30:46.362 Yeah. 700 00:30:46.382 --> 00:30:46.542 Yeah. 701 00:30:46.742 --> 00:30:48.003 I went on a date once. 702 00:30:48.043 --> 00:30:49.024 It was our third date. 703 00:30:49.684 --> 00:30:52.867 And this man did not tell me that he had children until the third date. 704 00:30:53.247 --> 00:30:54.368 And he told me he had a daughter. 705 00:30:54.608 --> 00:30:56.309 And I was like, oh, how often do you see her? 706 00:30:56.629 --> 00:30:58.991 And he was like, oh, well, you know, here and there. 707 00:30:59.171 --> 00:31:01.053 I was like, oh, you are a deadbeat father. 708 00:31:01.073 --> 00:31:02.013 Like, my brain was just like. 709 00:31:04.055 --> 00:31:05.196 And I never spoke to that man again. 710 00:31:05.876 --> 00:31:11.080 But wouldn't it be advantageous at the end to say, I don't think this is for me. 711 00:31:12.901 --> 00:31:14.963 It's not my job to educate everybody. 712 00:31:15.750 --> 00:31:16.391 I'm tired. 713 00:31:16.692 --> 00:31:17.513 I'm very tired. 714 00:31:17.533 --> 00:31:17.953 I like that. 715 00:31:18.594 --> 00:31:19.075 I like that. 716 00:31:19.316 --> 00:31:23.562 Do you think being in scams, do you think that ghosting is an acceptable scam? 717 00:31:25.388 --> 00:31:31.633 Um, I mean, no, because what's used for in scams is like once people have bled you dry or used you up, then they leave. 718 00:31:31.733 --> 00:31:33.314 I would never do something like that. 719 00:31:33.454 --> 00:31:35.176 Like it's never a using way. 720 00:31:35.336 --> 00:31:40.980 Like I haven't done it very often, but like if I just realized like, you're not a good person or I don't want to be around this. 721 00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:42.261 I don't have to tell you that. 722 00:31:42.782 --> 00:31:43.482 Go live your life. 723 00:31:43.582 --> 00:31:44.823 It's not like it's going to change anything. 724 00:31:44.863 --> 00:31:49.327 I don't think if I had been like, you're not being a good father, he would have just like been a good dad. 725 00:31:49.427 --> 00:31:49.687 Okay. 726 00:31:50.047 --> 00:31:51.848 Yeah, like it wouldn't help. 727 00:31:51.888 --> 00:31:52.969 You know what I mean? 728 00:31:53.449 --> 00:31:58.392 But yeah, so but scammers do it because they're like, I've used you up and now, you know, there's nothing left. 729 00:31:58.452 --> 00:31:59.973 And so it's really ugly in that. 730 00:32:00.173 --> 00:32:06.057 But yeah, ghosting in relationships, I can understand how that specifically is harmful and hurtful to people. 731 00:32:06.457 --> 00:32:14.301 If it's like a meaningful thing, I'm talking about three dates, but like if we've been dating for months or, you know, hanging out or talking a lot and then you just disappear. 732 00:32:14.341 --> 00:32:17.062 I think that's really unfair to the other person and really selfish. 733 00:32:17.082 --> 00:32:19.603 So I do agree with you there, but I don't I don't think that's fair. 734 00:32:20.143 --> 00:32:20.784 That's not right. 735 00:32:21.104 --> 00:32:28.047 Yeah, I just I really struggle with it in general and just just letting things happen. 736 00:32:28.934 --> 00:32:47.986 fizzle without me being like this is not for me and this is why do you feel like i was about to say is it the why of it all for you do you feel like you're wondering if you're if you're ghosted no i'm not ghosted i mean i feel like i don't like you and this is why so so i just feel like telling you 737 00:32:52.021 --> 00:32:52.502 Okay. 738 00:32:53.524 --> 00:32:54.826 I feel like you should know. 739 00:32:55.587 --> 00:32:57.490 That's giving like you raggedy bitch. 740 00:32:57.590 --> 00:33:00.334 You got to get your one off before you leave. 741 00:33:00.414 --> 00:33:02.157 I just say like. 742 00:33:02.578 --> 00:33:03.439 You don't know how I feel. 743 00:33:03.579 --> 00:33:04.941 Listen, similar to that guy. 744 00:33:07.355 --> 00:33:09.576 I've had three dinners getting to know you. 745 00:33:10.137 --> 00:33:14.599 I just think it's very odd that you didn't feel the need to talk about your kids before this. 746 00:33:14.719 --> 00:33:18.221 And then on top of that, we don't share similar values. 747 00:33:18.541 --> 00:33:18.881 Yeah. 748 00:33:19.542 --> 00:33:20.042 And goodbye. 749 00:33:20.082 --> 00:33:20.982 Don't call my phone no more. 750 00:33:21.162 --> 00:33:21.423 Yeah. 751 00:33:22.143 --> 00:33:23.043 I mean, okay. 752 00:33:23.063 --> 00:33:23.624 Did he call you? 753 00:33:23.644 --> 00:33:23.704 No. 754 00:33:24.444 --> 00:33:25.184 No, I blocked him. 755 00:33:25.224 --> 00:33:26.245 I don't know if he called me or not. 756 00:33:26.265 --> 00:33:27.185 Oh, you blocked him. 757 00:33:27.225 --> 00:33:28.425 Yeah, that's how you ghost. 758 00:33:28.445 --> 00:33:29.146 That's how you ghost. 759 00:33:29.186 --> 00:33:30.786 You can't ghost without blocking. 760 00:33:30.826 --> 00:33:31.907 Not to be reached again. 761 00:33:31.927 --> 00:33:33.407 Yeah, that's the combo. 762 00:33:33.447 -->

00:33:36.488 You gotta, otherwise, how can you ghost if they can still find you? 763 00:33:36.508 --> 00:33:38.469 You gotta be like Casper. 764 00:33:38.489 --> 00:33:42.110 So you block him on the phone, social media, everything? 765 00:33:42.330 --> 00:33:42.590 Yeah. 766 00:33:43.111 --> 00:33:43.791 Oh my God. 767 00:33:44.791 --> 00:33:45.251 Oh, wow. 768 00:33:45.871 --> 00:33:46.332 Oh boy. 769 00:33:47.052 --> 00:33:47.312 Okay. 770 00:33:47.332 --> 00:33:48.672 It's not that hard you hit a few buttons. 771 00:33:51.037 --> 00:34:10.952 easy enough boom they make it so easy okay interesting all right i didn't know that i thought you just wouldn't just that's it no well then they can still reach you yeah yeah so you got to make sure it's up both ends that no one can be reached yeah wow that's very interesting 772 00:34:12.158 --> 00:34:13.999 I know you don't agree, but I appreciate your sentiment. 773 00:34:14.019 --> 00:34:15.180 We can agree to disagree. 774 00:34:15.200 --> 00:34:16.561 Like that's very interesting. 775 00:34:17.061 --> 00:34:19.522 You're like, hmm. 776 00:34:19.662 --> 00:34:22.404 I think I'm always so baffled, not even baffled. 777 00:34:22.464 --> 00:34:26.046 I just think that is a nice thing about perspective. 778 00:34:26.486 --> 00:34:27.227 Yeah. 779 00:34:27.567 --> 00:34:32.830 That's why I think me and Savannah have always been open to people, different perspectives. 780 00:34:33.050 --> 00:34:35.131 And that's what makes the world go round. 781 00:34:37.656 --> 00:34:43.439 I don't ghost anybody, so I wouldn't know that I would say what I say, but then I wouldn't turn around and block them. 782 00:34:43.479 --> 00:34:46.080 I'd just be like, all right, bye. 783 00:34:46.160 --> 00:34:46.921 Then what would be the point? 784 00:34:46.941 --> 00:34:48.682 Because I wouldn't go on everything and block them. 785 00:34:49.102 --> 00:34:49.402 Right. 786 00:34:49.922 --> 00:34:54.305 I think there is, I agree with you on one thing, and that's why I believe in so much nuance. 787 00:34:54.325 --> 00:34:55.245 Two things can be true. 788 00:34:55.405 --> 00:34:57.607 Like you can ghost and it'd be a good thing. 789 00:34:57.627 --> 00:35:04.392 And I feel like it's fine and moral and you can ghost and it can be a really ugly thing that you did to somebody that was unwarranted. 790 00:35:04.813 --> 00:35:06.574 So I think it depends on the relationship. 791 00:35:06.594 --> 00:35:08.916 I think it depends on how much time is invested. 792 00:35:09.256 --> 00:35:11.678 And it also depends on what you were trying to get from them. 793 00:35:11.698 --> 00:35:12.759 And like, did you go get that? 794 00:35:12.799 --> 00:35:14.000 And then you disappeared. 795 00:35:14.040 --> 00:35:14.861 Like, that's not right. 796 00:35:15.221 --> 00:35:16.322 Like, I don't agree with that at all. 797 00:35:16.662 --> 00:35:17.723 And a lot of people do that. 798 00:35:18.063 --> 00:35:19.965 You know, I do think that that happens.

799 00:35:25.419 --> 00:35:45.031 around like having sex with somebody and then never contacting them that's not right yeah that's insane yes that's the scam you know scam somebody out of their cookies right but i feel like maybe you didn't scam them i don't know anytime body parts enter one another i feel like you you could give me a phone call yeah you know yeah that's crazy so you go on a 800 00:35:48.798 --> 00:35:50.800 And then you decide... You having sex after two dates? 801 00:35:51.220 --> 00:35:51.480 Huh? 802 00:35:52.161 --> 00:35:53.181 Is that the standard now? 803 00:35:53.201 --> 00:35:53.782 I don't know. 804 00:35:54.522 --> 00:35:55.803 How long were the dates? 805 00:35:57.645 --> 00:35:58.525 I can't. 806 00:35:58.906 --> 00:35:59.646 No judgment. 807 00:35:59.686 --> 00:36:00.507 I'm just asking. 808 00:36:01.027 --> 00:36:01.508 I don't know. 809 00:36:01.548 --> 00:36:02.588 But I would think... 810 00:36:02.849 --> 00:36:06.131 I think in this day and age, maybe two dates is normal. 811 00:36:06.451 --> 00:36:06.691 Okay. 812 00:36:07.052 --> 00:36:08.993 And then were y'all talking a lot before? 813 00:36:09.013 --> 00:36:10.895 We were talking... Or maybe you just... We have sex. 814 00:36:11.455 --> 00:36:15.658 Now, you think... You think it doesn't work for you now. 815 00:36:16.659 --> 00:36:17.720 Are you ghosting him? 816 00:36:17.740 --> 00:36:17.800 No. 817 00:36:19.603 --> 00:36:28.225 No, I feel like if we've entered the physical realm, keeping it spooky, then no, I'm not going to ghost you for that. 818 00:36:28.525 --> 00:36:30.546 I'll tell you that this isn't going to work for me. 819 00:36:30.846 --> 00:36:32.647 Okay, okay. 820 00:36:32.687 --> 00:36:32.987 Yeah. 821 00:36:33.087 --> 00:36:34.827 And listen, I don't judge. 822 00:36:34.907 --> 00:36:38.128 I do judge, but secretly in my group chat, never publicly. 823 00:36:39.389 --> 00:36:42.772 So if you go on a date, you want to... You know, you're feeling the chemistry and the vibes. 824 00:36:42.792 --> 00:36:44.854 You want to go home and have a little fun. 825 00:36:44.894 --> 00:36:46.055 Like, that's your right. 826 00:36:46.115 --> 00:36:47.356 It's two consenting adults. 827 00:36:47.776 --> 00:36:48.096 Yeah. 828 00:36:48.236 --> 00:36:53.461 But I do think if you do do that, then like, yeah, you should probably... We should have a conversation. 829 00:36:53.501 --> 00:36:54.361 It doesn't have to be long. 830 00:36:55.202 --> 00:36:57.764 It could just be a text like, hey, I had a lovely time with you. 831 00:36:57.864 --> 00:36:59.426 Isn't that called a one-night stand? 832 00:37:00.667 --> 00:37:01.167 It depends. 833 00:37:01.227 --> 00:37:04.049 If you say you're going on dates, that's the intention to get to know someone and date them. 834 00:37:04.089 --> 00:37:04.310 No, no, no. 835 00:37:04.330 --> 00:37:05.751 But if you go on one date... 836 00:37:06.815 --> 00:37:08.336 And after one date, you have sex. 837 00:37:08.376 --> 00:37:09.897 I don't think a one-night stand requires a date. 838 00:37:09.917 --> 00:37:12.518 No, a one-night stand, you're both supposed to know that we're doing it. 839 00:37:12.958 --> 00:37:15.500 Because, like, then why would you even want to eat food before that? 840 00:37:15.520 --> 00:37:18.501 Yeah, I'm like, I don't think that that's a date involved. 841 00:37:18.721 --> 00:37:19.982 I think people go on a date. 842 00:37:20.602 --> 00:37:21.543 They have sex. 843 00:37:22.683 --> 00:37:25.045 And then the girl is confused. 844 00:37:25.666 --> 00:37:26.987 That's called a one-night scam. 845 00:37:27.408 --> 00:37:27.928 Okay? 846 00:37:28.529 --> 00:37:28.609 Oh. 847 00:37:28.629 --> 00:37:29.490 Okay, so that's not a... 848 00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:31.152 I think that's a one-night stand. 849 00:37:31.332 --> 00:37:33.234 No, because if we're giving you a kitchen... 850 00:37:33.254 --> 00:37:35.236 So now that you eat dinner, now that you eat dinner. 851 00:37:35.336 --> 00:37:38.819 A one-night stand is I meet you outside, and I... 852 00:37:39.832 --> 00:37:40.032 Mm-hmm. 853 00:37:40.292 --> 00:37:41.013 Because you're one of them. 854 00:37:41.634 --> 00:37:42.314 And we out of here. 855 00:37:42.454 --> 00:37:42.594 Mm-hmm. 856 00:37:43.295 --> 00:37:44.636 A date is not a one-night stand. 857 00:37:44.656 --> 00:37:45.036 That's a date. 858 00:37:45.056 --> 00:37:52.142 I think a date is I meet you on Raya or whatever people are on because I don't got no social dating apps, but okay. 859 00:37:52.482 --> 00:37:53.483 I meet you on the app. 860 00:37:54.124 --> 00:37:55.505 I say, let's go for a coffee. 861 00:37:55.545 --> 00:37:56.626 We go for a coffee. 862 00:37:56.646 --> 00:37:57.787 Then we go get naked. 863 00:37:57.847 --> 00:37:59.508 And then I say, ha-ha, bye-bye. 864 00:38:00.229 --> 00:38:01.610 What time of day you having this coffee? 865 00:38:01.630 --> 00:38:01.750 Yeah. 866 00:38:03.950 --> 00:38:04.931 Well, I was unemployed. 867 00:38:04.951 --> 00:38:08.135 That's why I took your broke ass for coffee because I ain't have no money. 868 00:38:08.155 --> 00:38:10.378 We weren't going to dinner ever. 869 00:38:10.498 --> 00:38:11.819 Oh, my gosh. 870 00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:13.441 I think that's happening for real. 871 00:38:14.142 --> 00:38:14.423 I do. 872 00:38:14.503 --> 00:38:15.003 It's for sure happening. 873 00:38:15.023 --> 00:38:17.446 Okay, maybe if you're doing it at 10 a.m. after the Starbucks. 874 00:38:17.466 --> 00:38:18.427 No, I said we went for coffee. 875 00:38:18.447 --> 00:38:19.168 We went at noon. 876 00:38:19.188 --> 00:38:19.809 Okay. 877 00:38:20.169 --> 00:38:20.990 Okay, well, then maybe that. 878 00:38:21.010 --> 00:38:22.172 And then I said take a half a day. 879 00:38:23.805 --> 00:38:28.387 That, to me, contextually, doesn't feel like y'all were going on a date. 880 00:38:28.427 --> 00:38:32.969 Like, in this scenario, it doesn't feel like you're going on a date with the

intention to get to know the person. 881 00:38:33.029 --> 00:38:33.930 If you're like, let's get coffee. 882 00:38:33.950 --> 00:38:35.110 A coffee date? 883 00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:41.253 No, but if you meet and you have a brief conversation and you're like, let's go get coffee real quick, I feel like that is you both sizing each other up. 884 00:38:41.293 --> 00:38:42.594 Like, are you a murderer? 885 00:38:42.814 --> 00:38:47.656 Well, yeah, because you met them on an app, so you got to go get coffee to sniff it out, I think. 886 00:38:48.096 --> 00:38:48.917 You know I love coffee. 887 00:38:51.977 --> 00:38:53.218 She said, you know I love coffee. 888 00:38:53.258 --> 00:38:54.959 I'm sitting here as one. 889 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:55.499 Okay. 890 00:38:55.979 --> 00:38:56.279 Okay. 891 00:38:56.580 --> 00:38:58.040 Well, we asked for your ghost stories. 892 00:38:58.281 --> 00:39:02.503 So we have a crazy on paper edition for y'all. 893 00:39:02.523 --> 00:39:04.284 So let's get it. 894 00:39:04.304 --> 00:39:04.844 So let me... 895 00:39:04.864 --> 00:39:05.925 Behind Dolly here. 896 00:39:06.305 --> 00:39:08.847 You're going to be responsible to read, Lacey, because you're giving... 897 00:39:09.783 --> 00:39:34.337 professional voice oh we got multiple ghosts first we got multiple stories this is taking me back to like blues clues i'd be like i just got a letter i just got a letter i do i love mess because i love crazy that's why i'm here that's like everybody's crazy say laugh my community 898 00:39:35.117 --> 00:39:36.498 So this says, hi, ladies. 899 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.883 I'm so happy to see that this topic you're talking about to discuss. 900 00:39:40.943 --> 00:39:42.304 Okay, I'm reading it as you wrote it. 901 00:39:42.404 --> 00:39:45.107 But okay, I'm going to try to work on the grammar as you go. 902 00:39:45.867 --> 00:39:47.349 So I recently met a guy. 903 00:39:47.409 --> 00:39:49.351 We started interacting on social media. 904 00:39:49.451 --> 00:39:52.373 And unlike most men, he came with action. 905 00:39:53.234 --> 00:39:54.255 I flew to him. 906 00:39:54.455 --> 00:39:57.338 Okay, that don't sound like action. 907 00:39:57.378 --> 00:39:58.019 I'm walking with you. 908 00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.080 I'm going to hold your hand. 909 00:39:59.140 --> 00:39:59.300 Okay. 910 00:39:59.640 --> 00:40:05.862 We went on a date and we had S-E-X on the first night for the first time. 911 00:40:05.882 --> 00:40:06.562 No joke. 912 00:40:07.482 --> 00:40:07.862 Okay. 913 00:40:07.982 --> 00:40:08.462 Okay. 914 00:40:08.562 --> 00:40:09.043 He was right. 915 00:40:09.503 --> 00:40:20.326 For a very long time, I wanted to be the good girl, but that night the bad one just kind of came out and I couldn't keep her tucked away anymore. 916 00:40:20.966 --> 00:40:24.847 Sideways laughing emoji, covering my mouth emoji. 917 00:40:24.987 --> 00:40:25.227 Okay. 918 00:40:25.247 --> 00:40:25.867 You're a millennial. 919 00:40:27.369 -->

00:40:51.883 I know my people I like the way he moved talked, treated me it felt good but he has six kids and I believe four baby mamas and I have zero kids so initially I wasn't going for the plot babes, you should have closed the book at that I do believe in you if you don't have kids I'm just getting through it I'm going to let you go girl 920 00:40:52.263 --> 00:40:53.944 So I went a second time. 921 00:40:54.104 --> 00:40:56.485 We just went on a date and cuddled, no sex. 922 00:40:56.645 --> 00:41:00.287 Vibe was chill, but I noticed that we didn't talk at all after that. 923 00:41:00.708 --> 00:41:04.249 Maybe a little text or IG convo, but nothing of substance. 924 00:41:04.670 --> 00:41:08.972 Third time, chill vibe, no date, movies, cuddles, and really good sex. 925 00:41:09.252 --> 00:41:13.755 I've always been the type that felt more comfortable having sex in clothing, but he got me out of it. 926 00:41:14.095 --> 00:41:17.517 And after, he just held me like I was a precious being. 927 00:41:18.437 --> 00:41:23.600 Fast forward a few weeks later, just a bunch of small talk, no phone conversations, nothing. 928 00:41:23.961 --> 00:41:26.102 Conversation on IG even got shorter. 929 00:41:26.162 --> 00:41:31.846 So I reached out like, hey, is this casual or are you in a space where we can communicate and see each other more? 930 00:41:31.966 --> 00:41:33.346 Either way, no hard feelings. 931 00:41:33.406 --> 00:41:33.927 Let me know. 932 00:41:34.307 --> 00:41:40.210 He never texts me back, in all caps, but was still watching me on Instagram and whatnot. 933 00:41:40.290 --> 00:41:44.812 So I eventually removed him as a follower and unfollowed him because I felt like that was immature. 934 00:41:45.192 --> 00:41:47.073 I think ghosting overall is immature. 935 00:41:47.153 --> 00:41:50.095 I think people should be mature enough to say, I'm not feeling this. 936 00:41:50.135 --> 00:41:52.816 I'm not ready for this or whatever it is that they're feeling. 937 00:41:53.056 --> 00:41:55.117 But clearly, everybody's crazy. 938 00:41:55.157 --> 00:41:56.538 That's what I'm saying. 939 00:41:56.938 --> 00:41:58.859 Mind you, he's six years older than me. 940 00:41:58.939 --> 00:42:00.720 I expected more from him. 941 00:42:02.296 --> 00:42:06.057 And this says from, I'm not going to say your name, just in case you want to be anonymous. 942 00:42:06.117 --> 00:42:07.017 And it says, love y'all. 943 00:42:08.117 --> 00:42:08.717 That's to y'all. 944 00:42:09.778 --> 00:42:11.618 Well, that goes directly into what you were saying. 945 00:42:11.638 --> 00:42:12.298 Let's call her Needy. 946 00:42:12.318 --> 00:42:13.318 Okay. 947 00:42:13.838 --> 00:42:14.398 Scandal. 948 00:42:15.139 --> 00:42:16.979 So how do you feel about Needy? 949 00:42:17.259 --> 00:42:19.379 It was all wrong. 950 00:42:20.540 --> 00:42:20.880 Yeah. 951 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.560 I have so many questions. 952 00:42:23.600 --> 00:42:25.081 Did you fly there yourself? 953 00:42:25.301 --> 00:42:26.441 Did he fly you there? 954 00:42:26.961 --> 00:42:28.141 Do you do fly out? 955 00:42:28.321 --> 00:42:29.802 It says I flew to him. 956 00:42:29.842 --> 00:42:30.842 That's not giving flew down. 957 00:42:30.862 --> 00:42:31.882 Yeah, that's not giving flew out. 958 00:42:32.652 --> 00:42:32.992 Okay. 959 00:42:33.033 --> 00:42:34.754 I flued it out with a D. Yeah. 960 00:42:34.774 --> 00:42:35.054 Flued. 961 00:42:35.855 --> 00:42:41.159 And I'm not judging that because, like, as a woman with disposable income, sometimes I want what I want. 962 00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:44.001 But I have had to learn that you teach people how to treat you. 963 00:42:44.101 --> 00:42:50.526 And even if I'm impatient and I want something immediately, the other person might be like, why is she so desperate? 964 00:42:50.566 --> 00:42:52.128 And then they look at you differently. 965 00:42:52.248 --> 00:42:55.891 Like, you really do have to guard yourself like a fortress, like a vault. 966 00:42:55.951 --> 00:42:58.352 Like, I don't even think about dates anymore. 967 00:42:58.493 --> 00:43:01.255 Like, oh, I hope that this person likes me. 968 00:43:01.615 --> 00:43:03.297 I go on a date, which is very rare. 969 00:43:03.337 --> 00:43:05.400 I'm going to start again. 970 00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:05.700 Me too. 971 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.104 But now if I'm interacting with someone, I'm like, I hope I like them. 972 00:43:10.170 --> 00:43:14.675 Like, I hope that this is a nice situation where I get along with them and I like them. 973 00:43:15.175 --> 00:43:17.017 And I think that changes your perspective on it. 974 00:43:17.057 --> 00:43:20.620 So I agree that her getting ghosted like this was really messed up. 975 00:43:20.721 --> 00:43:25.225 But baby, he got six kids and four baby mamas. 976 00:43:26.006 --> 00:43:29.469 I think it was the first date was a challenge. 977 00:43:29.489 --> 00:43:31.912 But I also don't think people know people. 978 00:43:32.930 --> 00:43:34.291 People don't get to know people. 979 00:43:34.692 --> 00:43:36.573 So you don't really know what you're dealing with. 980 00:43:36.633 --> 00:43:41.658 I don't think in actuality you could be married to somebody for 40 years and may not know them. 981 00:43:42.378 --> 00:43:45.201 I think to get to know somebody does take time and effort. 982 00:43:45.641 --> 00:43:48.884 But I feel like everyone takes a book by its cover. 983 00:43:49.064 --> 00:43:50.926 And I think people are so layered. 984 00:43:51.166 --> 00:43:51.406 Yeah. 985 00:43:51.826 --> 00:43:53.287 And we're all so exhausted. 986 00:43:53.728 --> 00:43:55.649 Like you, like dating is a job. 987 00:43:55.669 --> 00:43:58.050 When I go to people's weddings, I really celebrate. 988 00:43:58.131 --> 00:44:00.792 I don't think it's like an overzealous party or anything like that. 989 00:44:00.852 --> 00:44:02.273 I think that love is really hard work. 990 00:44:02.293 --> 00:44:05.755 And if you find

somebody that y'all love each other so much, you want to get the government involved. 991 00:44:05.895 --> 00:44:10.118 I'm going to be there celebrating, throwing rose petals, helping out in whatever way I can. 992 00:44:10.138 --> 00:44:13.360 I think it's really beautiful, but we have to bring back yearning. 993 00:44:13.720 --> 00:44:15.021 Well, we just talked about that. 994 00:44:15.081 --> 00:44:18.684 We were, we were just recently talking about, cause I just learned what a simp was. 995 00:44:18.924 --> 00:44:19.204 Mm-hmm. 996 00:44:19.384 --> 00:44:22.649 So we were talking about simps and pygmies. 997 00:44:22.950 --> 00:44:23.371 Yes. 998 00:44:23.451 --> 00:44:31.544 And like the fact that that's like a thing and it's taking away the yearning and it's taking away like the, the feeling of being okay with wanting somebody or. 999 00:44:32.028 --> 00:44:32.669 Somebody want you. 1000 00:44:32.809 --> 00:44:35.131 And dreaming about it for a little bit. 1001 00:44:35.191 --> 00:44:38.454 Like, we have an economy where we get things so quickly now. 1002 00:44:38.514 --> 00:44:41.857 You don't even have to leave your house to get groceries, medicine, anything. 1003 00:44:41.897 --> 00:44:42.217 You know? 1004 00:44:42.518 --> 00:44:43.599 Everything is on demand. 1005 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:44.519 Everything costs. 1006 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:45.800 Everything has an app, right? 1007 00:44:45.821 --> 00:44:45.921 Yeah. 1008 00:44:46.261 --> 00:44:46.942 Even dating. 1009 00:44:47.302 --> 00:44:48.543 But, you know, I don't know. 1010 00:44:48.563 --> 00:44:52.867 We got to bring back, like, men wearing leather in the summer and dancing in the rain. 1011 00:44:53.147 --> 00:44:53.888 And, you know... 1012 00:44:54.508 --> 00:45:01.812 And women writing like the last name of the person that they just met in their diary over and over before they even have sex with them. 1013 00:45:01.912 --> 00:45:02.933 I love it. 1014 00:45:03.433 --> 00:45:04.273 What do we think? 1015 00:45:04.313 --> 00:45:06.955 Do we think one night stands are a scam? 1016 00:45:07.995 --> 00:45:09.316 Not if both people know what it is. 1017 00:45:09.356 --> 00:45:09.996 I don't think so. 1018 00:45:10.156 --> 00:45:10.456 Yeah. 1019 00:45:11.737 --> 00:45:13.858 But I think that this wasn't a one night stand situation. 1020 00:45:13.878 --> 00:45:14.639 I think that was a scam. 1021 00:45:14.839 --> 00:45:17.460 Like if you go through TSA, this ain't no one night stand. 1022 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:18.441 Yeah, no. 1023 00:45:18.601 --> 00:45:21.042 I don't think you know if it is a one night stand. 1024 00:45:22.005 --> 00:45:24.048 You not flew out for a one night stand. 1025 00:45:24.108 --> 00:45:26.531 I think a lot of people are flown out for a one night stand. 1026 00:45:26.571 --> 00:45:28.534 Yeah, but that's, they were flown out. 1027 00:45:28.694 --> 00:45:29.556 She did the flight. 1028 00:45:29.856 --> 00:45:30.417 She flew. 1029 00:45:30.617 --> 00:45:32.059 Yeah, because she was curious. 1030 00:45:32.580 --> 00:45:32.840 Yeah. 1031 00:45:33.922 --> 00:45:34.162 Right. 1032 00:45:34.322 --> 00:45:34.583 So I think. 1033 00:45:34.603 --> 00:45:35.724 Well, also flying is a mode of transportation. 1034 00:45:35.744 --> 00:45:36.766 But is there something wrong with that? 1035 00:45:38.822 --> 00:45:39.723 I, listen. 1036 00:45:39.803 --> 00:45:41.605 Did she scam herself is what I'm asking. 1037 00:45:41.625 --> 00:45:43.987 Like, is it an internal scam? 1038 00:45:44.147 --> 00:45:45.228 I think it is. 1039 00:45:45.889 --> 00:45:50.793 Like you tell me sometimes things, it's a little fairy tale, a little Disney for me. 1040 00:45:52.074 --> 00:45:53.515 Maybe that was the case. 1041 00:45:53.535 --> 00:45:58.320 Because after the first date, it was not, first of all, they had sex on the first date. 1042 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.241 And then he was kind of like, all right, you can go home. 1043 00:46:00.561 --> 00:46:02.223 So she probably was there one day too long. 1044 00:46:02.843 --> 00:46:04.544 That's what I take from the first scenario. 1045 00:46:05.024 --> 00:46:13.447 Then she goes back, but you don't go, you don't get to know the person while, like when I've dated somebody in another city, they be like, I gotta see you. 1046 00:46:13.507 --> 00:46:15.228 Come on, fly, see me. 1047 00:46:15.268 --> 00:46:16.509 Like you talking to him every day. 1048 00:46:16.549 --> 00:46:18.409 Like she barely spoke to him. 1049 00:46:18.429 --> 00:46:19.290 Then she went back. 1050 00:46:20.190 --> 00:46:29.254 Then if I'm flying somewhere to see somebody that I already slept with and I fly there and we don't sleep together again, I'm gone. 1051 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.301 So I was dead at the second date. 1052 00:46:33.042 --> 00:46:39.906 I think she probably thought that that was meaning that he was intentional about her and not just her body. 1053 00:46:39.966 --> 00:46:40.267 Yeah. 1054 00:46:40.307 --> 00:46:41.608 No, he wasn't interested anymore. 1055 00:46:41.908 --> 00:46:42.088 Yeah. 1056 00:46:42.108 --> 00:46:42.788 Getting to know her. 1057 00:46:42.989 --> 00:46:44.910 She went and flew again and he was done. 1058 00:46:45.130 --> 00:46:46.351 He was done after the first time. 1059 00:46:46.371 --> 00:46:47.371 So is this a self scam? 1060 00:46:47.391 --> 00:46:48.092 Is that a real thing? 1061 00:46:48.112 --> 00:46:48.352 Yeah. 1062 00:46:48.392 --> 00:46:52.275 She should have been more self-aware and you weren't aligned with his values because he had six kids. 1063 00:46:52.535 --> 00:46:54.316 So then you're just going to keep going back and flying there. 1064 00:46:54.396 --> 00:46:55.157 Get yourself together. 1065 00:46:55.177 --> 00:46:55.557 Yeah. 1066 00:46:55.717 --> 00:46:57.058 I mean, but I'm not judging. 1067 00:46:57.139 --> 00:46:57.999 I'm not judging. 1068 00:46:58.019 --> 00:46:59.301 She wants love. 1069 00:46:59.481 --> 00:47:00.482 I have empathy

for this. 1070 00:47:00.562 --> 00:47:01.183 You gotta figure out. 1071 00:47:01.303 --> 00:47:01.743 I agree. 1072 00:47:01.783 --> 00:47:05.667 I have done some silly stuff that would have made my grandma roll in a grave if she knew. 1073 00:47:05.947 --> 00:47:11.233 No, I think it is okay to want love, but also be realistic. 1074 00:47:11.393 --> 00:47:15.216 My thing is between the first date and the second date, there was minimal communication. 1075 00:47:15.877 --> 00:47:21.278 So if you don't really know who you are getting to know, then you want to just keep flying there. 1076 00:47:21.458 --> 00:47:23.839 And you think getting to know them in person is going to be easier? 1077 00:47:24.339 --> 00:47:27.680 That's the really difficult thing about having sex sometimes. 1078 00:47:27.820 --> 00:47:29.220 And I don't think it's gendered. 1079 00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:32.201 People always want to say it's just women who like- No, no, no, no, no, no. 1080 00:47:32.341 --> 00:47:37.322 I know some, I know some women who could turn you out and leave you singing in the rain. 1081 00:47:37.762 --> 00:47:38.083 So- 1082 00:47:40.183 --> 00:47:45.147 But for some people, it is, like, such an emotional, like, connection. 1083 00:47:45.247 --> 00:47:51.232 And so at that point, doing it too early, you're not even seeing that person for who they were for real. 1084 00:47:51.292 --> 00:47:53.274 Like, now you have rose-colored glasses on. 1085 00:47:53.374 --> 00:47:56.817 And you're not realizing that communication, like, it costs nothing. 1086 00:47:56.897 --> 00:47:58.619 If they wanted to, they would. 1087 00:47:59.019 --> 00:48:04.984 So if you can't even, if you hearten a DM response on Instagram, that's the conversation that we're having. 1088 00:48:05.144 --> 00:48:06.125 Like, yeah, you're right. 1089 00:48:06.185 --> 00:48:08.387 It was, like, at that point, you have to cut your losses. 1090 00:48:08.407 --> 00:48:08.647 Yeah. 1091 00:48:08.727 --> 00:48:09.608 But it's hard. 1092 00:48:09.848 --> 00:48:10.448 It is hard. 1093 00:48:10.548 --> 00:48:15.312 I have a lot of empathy because I don't feel like people truly want to be vulnerable. 1094 00:48:15.892 --> 00:48:21.576 I think people are looking for a fast dopamine rush and they're looking for it on their terms. 1095 00:48:21.716 --> 00:48:33.444 And when someone allows that to happen and they're continually making themselves available, like she flew there the first time, he could have flew here or flew to her, wherever here is, but flew to her. 1096 00:48:33.874 --> 00:48:36.615 the second time, like to want to get to know somebody. 1097 00:48:36.715 --> 00:48:43.018 I just think you have to be, Savannah says it to me all the time, but I think there is a, there is a reality to certain things. 1098 00:48:43.558 --> 00:48:48.660 Well, I just hope Didi can take into account that like, he got four baby mamas and six kids. 1099 00:48:48.841 --> 00:48:55.043 Do you know how many like text messages and phone calls and windows getting bust out of his car probably on a weekly basis? 1100 00:48:55.083 --> 00:48:57.724 Cause he doesn't sound like a, it sounds like a love bomber. 1101 00:48:58.385 --> 00:48:59.525 And he doesn't sound like a girl. 1102 00:48:59.565 --> 00:49:03.807 I just think after maybe the second baby mama, you get a vasectomy. 1103 00:49:04.007 --> 00:49:05.949 Or, you know, your wear protection. 1104 00:49:06.370 --> 00:49:07.611 You know, he did too much. 1105 00:49:08.472 --> 00:49:10.875 It's like that Ayanna video where she had that man on. 1106 00:49:10.915 --> 00:49:11.856 Oh, she was so funny. 1107 00:49:12.296 --> 00:49:12.977 And she had a man. 1108 00:49:12.997 --> 00:49:14.338 He had like 20 kids. 1109 00:49:14.379 --> 00:49:15.860 And she gave him a bunch of baby dolls. 1110 00:49:16.100 --> 00:49:18.883 And she was like, see, you can't even hold all of these kids. 1111 00:49:19.104 --> 00:49:21.146 And then the camera pans to one baby doll on the ground. 1112 00:49:21.526 --> 00:49:21.686 Yeah. 1113 00:49:22.824 --> 00:49:24.385 It's like, that's what you were doing with, girl. 1114 00:49:24.405 --> 00:49:25.066 So yeah, he ghosted. 1115 00:49:25.086 --> 00:49:26.527 But I think this was a blessing. 1116 00:49:26.787 --> 00:49:27.888 He needed to ghost you. 1117 00:49:27.928 --> 00:49:29.550 What if you became baby mama in a vibe? 1118 00:49:29.650 --> 00:49:30.991 No, it was, thank God. 1119 00:49:31.311 --> 00:49:31.651 Yeah. 1120 00:49:31.671 --> 00:49:33.533 Dee Dee, go live your best life. 1121 00:49:33.693 --> 00:49:34.814 I wouldn't call it a scam. 1122 00:49:34.854 --> 00:49:35.875 I call it a lesson. 1123 00:49:36.936 --> 00:49:39.137 And put some boundaries in front of it in the future. 1124 00:49:39.558 --> 00:49:39.918 Yeah. 1125 00:49:40.178 --> 00:49:40.479 All right. 1126 00:49:40.979 --> 00:49:41.559 What's she say? 1127 00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:44.121 Given she scammed herself. 1128 00:49:44.622 --> 00:49:45.483 She scammed herself. 1129 00:49:45.523 --> 00:49:45.803 Yeah. 1130 00:49:46.083 --> 00:49:46.423 To me. 1131 00:49:47.144 --> 00:49:47.784 That's what I think. 1132 00:49:47.804 --> 00:49:48.205 I don't know. 1133 00:49:48.225 --> 00:49:48.405 Yeah. 1134 00:49:48.828 --> 00:49:50.310 I feel like, agreed. 1135 00:49:51.030 --> 00:49:52.372 Okay, so we're going to play a little game. 1136 00:49:52.452 --> 00:49:52.672 Okay. 1137 00:49:53.032 --> 00:49:54.734 It's called Lesser Mess, ladies. 1138 00:49:55.415 --> 00:50:01.641 So, someone who ghosts you completely or someone who texts you just enough to keep you interested. 1139 00:50:02.262 --> 00:50:03.443 What's Lesser Mess? 1140 00:50:04.084 --> 00:50:04.564 Ghost me. 1141 00:50:06.066 --> 00:50:06.346 Ghost. 1142 00:50:07.607 --> 00:50:08.608 Because don't keep popping up. 1143 00:50:08.688 --> 00:50:09.089 Ghost me. 1144 00:50:09.129 --> 00:50:10.090 Playing with my emotions. 1145 00:50:10.110 --> 00:50:10.510 Yes, yes, yes.

1146 00:50:10.570 --> 00:50:11.091 Don't do that. 1147 00:50:12.112 --> 00:50:12.472 Ghost me. 1148 00:50:13.995 --> 00:50:16.278 I don't like that, but I agree. 1149 00:50:17.820 --> 00:50:23.367 A friend who never pays you back or a friend who pays you back and remind you every favor they've ever done. 1150 00:50:23.387 --> 00:50:24.929 Don't pay me back. 1151 00:50:24.949 --> 00:50:25.630 Don't pay me back. 1152 00:50:26.458 --> 00:50:30.039 Um, I'll take the reminder of every favor that they've ever done. 1153 00:50:30.059 --> 00:50:31.859 Cause I'll just say, thank you. 1154 00:50:32.379 --> 00:50:39.621 Cause, cause sometimes when my mom always says like, you never loan people money more willing, more money than you're not willing to ever see again. 1155 00:50:40.061 --> 00:50:43.102 So I'm not necessarily petty, but I don't know. 1156 00:50:43.122 --> 00:50:44.422 It might bother me a little bit. 1157 00:50:44.482 --> 00:50:50.604 If you, if you say you want it to be alone, cause sometimes I've lent friends or giving friends money and I was like, this isn't a loan. 1158 00:50:50.924 --> 00:50:51.424 Go with God. 1159 00:50:51.704 --> 00:50:52.424 Hope this works out. 1160 00:50:52.744 --> 00:50:53.764 And that's typically what I do. 1161 00:50:53.844 --> 00:50:55.965 Cause I don't want to be, I'm not the bank manager. 1162 00:50:56.105 --> 00:50:56.205 Yeah. 1163 00:50:56.405 --> 00:51:06.011 But like if you promise this alone, you say all this and then every time I see you get coffee, getting your nails done, I see you paying a parking meter and I'd be like, that was my 25 cents. 1164 00:51:06.311 --> 00:51:07.992 Like that would bother me. 1165 00:51:08.072 --> 00:51:10.754 I'm going to say keep it because. 1166 00:51:12.015 --> 00:51:14.917 Yeah, that's a whole nother conversation. 1167 00:51:14.937 --> 00:51:15.597 I'm going to keep it moving. 1168 00:51:15.917 --> 00:51:21.501 An ex who comes back every Halloween or an ex who pops up every time you meet somebody new? 1169 00:51:22.693 --> 00:51:24.173 Why does he come back on Halloween? 1170 00:51:24.453 --> 00:51:25.114 Because he's a ghost. 1171 00:51:25.174 --> 00:51:28.034 He's a ghost. 1172 00:51:29.255 --> 00:51:31.335 I would say the Halloween popper-upper. 1173 00:51:32.196 --> 00:51:32.516 Yeah. 1174 00:51:32.916 --> 00:51:34.356 Don't be blocking my blessing. 1175 00:51:34.576 --> 00:51:34.836 Right. 1176 00:51:34.896 --> 00:51:39.757 Me, somebody, I feel like now I could juggle both of y'all for a little while so I don't get too desperate for the new person. 1177 00:51:40.118 --> 00:51:42.398 We can reminisce and then I can keep it chill. 1178 00:51:43.618 --> 00:51:49.220 Someone who lies about their age or someone whose dating profile pictures are 10 years older. 1179 00:51:50.423 --> 00:51:55.585 If you look your age, then lying about it, I guess I'll take that one. 1180 00:51:55.605 --> 00:51:56.126 Age. 1181 00:51:56.426 --> 00:51:56.686 Okay. 1182 00:51:57.366 --> 00:52:00.868 A friend who tells your business or a friend who makes your business about her? 1183 00:52:02.107 --> 00:52:06.530 So, like, if you were to tell a friend a story, they immediately related to themselves. 1184 00:52:06.610 --> 00:52:07.110 So, like... 1185 00:52:07.210 --> 00:52:08.951 The lesser is... Oof. 1186 00:52:09.011 --> 00:52:09.972 I'm like, neither one of them. 1187 00:52:10.312 --> 00:52:11.553 No, they both are bad. 1188 00:52:11.613 --> 00:52:12.093 Crazy. 1189 00:52:12.513 --> 00:52:13.714 But I'm going to go with the friend. 1190 00:52:13.734 --> 00:52:14.534 Telling my business. 1191 00:52:14.614 --> 00:52:16.916 Like, the friend who makes it about themselves. 1192 00:52:16.956 --> 00:52:18.697 Because telling my business is crazy. 1193 00:52:18.717 --> 00:52:19.337 Yes, I agree. 1194 00:52:19.377 --> 00:52:20.938 If you're my friend, you need to be my vault. 1195 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:22.059 Yeah, agreed. 1196 00:52:22.739 --> 00:52:29.123 A date who talks about their ex all night or a date that won't answer a single question about their past? 1197 00:52:29.163 --> 00:52:30.544 Talk about their ex in the last one. 1198 00:52:31.575 --> 00:52:33.376 Who is going to dinner talking about your ex? 1199 00:52:34.216 --> 00:52:35.417 A lot of people. 1200 00:52:35.437 --> 00:52:37.698 You can't get to know people if they don't tell you about their past. 1201 00:52:38.518 --> 00:52:42.860 Yeah, but I mean, you could be like, I was with this person and that was nice and it didn't work out. 1202 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:48.323 I feel like I'm going to go for, it's less messy to have somebody who won't tell me about their past. 1203 00:52:49.021 --> 00:52:53.983 Because what if they're into something illegal and cool that as long as I don't know about, I get to benefit from? 1204 00:52:54.003 --> 00:52:54.763 Yeah. 1205 00:52:54.803 --> 00:52:55.304 Yeah. 1206 00:52:55.384 --> 00:52:57.945 Like, if I tell you, I got to kill you. 1207 00:52:57.965 --> 00:53:01.186 And I'm like, okay, don't tell me, boo-kiss. 1208 00:53:01.226 --> 00:53:01.846 Here we are. 1209 00:53:02.486 --> 00:53:08.849 Someone who's romantic and private, but calls you my friend in public. 1210 00:53:08.869 --> 00:53:13.511 Or someone who posts you constantly, but barely pays you attention at home. 1211 00:53:14.477 --> 00:53:19.341 I want the less one is the romantic and private. 1212 00:53:19.621 --> 00:53:20.742 Yeah. 1213 00:53:21.042 --> 00:53:22.523 Cause I'm liable to call you my friend. 1214 00:53:23.044 --> 00:53:23.304 Yeah. 1215 00:53:23.364 --> 00:53:23.664 Yeah. 1216 00:53:24.085 --> 00:53:25.325 That's very April. 1217 00:53:25.346 --> 00:53:26.586 Why you got me all over your page? 1218 00:53:26.606 --> 00:53:27.948 I don't even know if I want to be there yet. 1219 00:53:28.008 --> 00:53:28.788 Yeah, exactly. 1220 00:53:29.229 --> 00:53:31.630 Finding out your boyfriend has a secret kid. 1221 00:53:32.011 --> 00:53:32.591 Oh no. 1222 00:53:33.232 --> 00:53:37.495 Or finding out he has a podcast where he discusses your relationship. 1223 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:41.961 Okay, how much money is the podcast making? 1224 00:53:41.981 --> 00:53:44.261 Is he getting clicks and downloads? 1225 00:53:44.361 --> 00:53:45.841 Is he coming back to the household? 1226 00:53:45.921 --> 00:53:47.101 Is he taking me to Chanel? 1227 00:53:48.282 --> 00:53:49.442 Then maybe he could talk about me. 1228 00:53:49.482 --> 00:53:51.262 I could be content. 1229 00:53:51.822 --> 00:53:53.883 I don't like that he has a secret kid. 1230 00:53:53.903 --> 00:53:54.403 That's crazy. 1231 00:53:54.423 --> 00:53:55.303 Yeah, secret kid. 1232 00:53:55.683 --> 00:53:56.663 I'm going with the podcast. 1233 00:53:56.683 --> 00:53:57.263 Yeah, me too. 1234 00:53:57.663 --> 00:53:58.623 I'm going with the podcast. 1235 00:54:00.464 --> 00:54:00.984 That's crazy. 1236 00:54:01.884 --> 00:54:03.144 This was such a treat. 1237 00:54:03.684 --> 00:54:06.585 I think we don't often... 1238 00:54:08.630 --> 00:54:13.694 We haven't often invited people in that we didn't have a relationship with. 1239 00:54:13.914 --> 00:54:19.698 So this is you being the first in our studio, you being a young black woman really crushing it. 1240 00:54:20.803 --> 00:54:23.564 and educating us on all the things happening in the world. 1241 00:54:23.664 --> 00:54:24.244 I'm honored. 1242 00:54:24.484 --> 00:54:24.984 Thank you. 1243 00:54:25.044 --> 00:54:27.125 So I do have to say I'm very honored. 1244 00:54:27.205 --> 00:54:28.325 I'm honored to be here. 1245 00:54:28.465 --> 00:54:33.407 And I think it is important to be able to collaborate and support. 1246 00:54:33.507 --> 00:54:34.627 So we are here. 1247 00:54:34.707 --> 00:54:37.508 But thank you for being an iced coffee. 1248 00:54:38.028 --> 00:54:38.469 Yes. 1249 00:54:38.909 --> 00:54:40.149 Take me to your interview, guys. 1250 00:54:40.369 --> 00:54:41.209 Okay? 1251 00:54:41.650 --> 00:54:42.570 Listen, the market is... 1252 00:54:43.270 --> 00:54:49.774 you need all the energy you can get exactly and we love you guys happy Halloween