บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 9-10-26

content researcher at sumer 39 00:02:17.490 --> 00:02:19.849 sports ben and all of sumer they do really really 40 00:02:19.909 --> 00:02:24.689 great work uh they approach the game from an analytical 41 00:02:24.750 --> 00:02:28.389 standpoint in a way that actually makes sense which is 42 00:02:28.449 --> 00:02:31.169 one of my favorite things about sumer sports so we'll 43 00:02:31.289 --> 00:02:35.000 we'll talk all things football with him You've got Thursday 44 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:39.169 night football right here on the station tonight. The Rams 45 00:02:39.389 --> 00:02:44.569 and the Niners will be kicking off from Melbourne at 6.30. 46 00:02:44.569 --> 00:02:47.729 That is actually a Netflix game. So I hope your 47 00:02:47.770 --> 00:02:52.740 streaming services are all the way kicked in. And, of course, 48 00:02:52.780 --> 00:02:55.979 you've got a little college football tonight as well. So 49 00:02:56.419 --> 00:03:01.479 we're almost to the weekend. This is the soft launch 50 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:05.860 to your football weekend. here in Salt Lake City, and 51 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.099 for me today, here in Saratoga Springs. By the way, 52 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:13.599 I timed it out. I live in the avenues downtown. 53 00:03:13.650 --> 00:03:15.909 Took me 36 minutes to get down here to Southern 54 00:03:15.930 --> 00:03:18.729 Steer today. Now, that's no traffic because of the time 55 00:03:18.789 --> 00:03:22.870 I'm driving, but 1705 Redwood Road, I made it all 56 00:03:22.889 --> 00:03:26.969 the way from the avenues to here in just over. 57 00:03:26.810 --> 00:03:27.340 Half an hour. 58 00:03:27.409 --> 00:03:30.199 So it is definitely worth the trip, especially when you 59 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:33.120 see the deals that they're running down here at Southern 60 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:38.539 Steer Butcher. Your official meet partner of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 61 00:03:39.060 --> 00:03:45.229 NFL returned last night and came in like a lamb, unfortunately. 62 00:03:45.310 --> 00:03:46.969 It was a bit of a whimper of a game. 63 00:03:47.330 --> 00:03:50.930 Not exactly the one that we were hoping for between 64 00:03:51.090 --> 00:03:53.310 the Seahawks and the Patriots. 65 00:03:53.330 --> 00:03:54.569 10-13 final. 66 00:03:55.330 --> 00:04:00.939 And one thing about the NFL is they are absolutely stink-proof. 67 00:04:01.669 --> 00:04:03.689 And what I mean by that is it was a 68 00:04:04.590 --> 00:04:08.169 pretty terrible game to watch, right? Sam Darnold goes out 69 00:04:08.289 --> 00:04:11.030 in the first series. Drew Locke has to play the 70 00:04:11.090 --> 00:04:16.430 rest of the game. Drew Locke is a respectable backup quarterback, 71 00:04:16.449 --> 00:04:19.009 but he is a career backup. He has the second 72 00:04:19.029 --> 00:04:23.769 lowest completion percentage of any active quarterback in the NFL. 73 00:04:23.829 --> 00:04:25.930 He is a guy that you don't want to trust 74 00:04:26.389 --> 00:04:29.120

for anything more than a quarter or two. And we 75 00:04:29.129 --> 00:04:32.050 got him in the first game of the season. for 76 00:04:32.129 --> 00:04:32.810 most of the game. 77 00:04:32.850 --> 00:04:34.550 Now, respect to Drew Locke. He did what he was 78 00:04:34.589 --> 00:04:37.769 supposed to do. He took care of the football. 16-22. 79 00:04:37.810 --> 00:04:40.829 He did throw a touchdown pass, so I should be 80 00:04:40.889 --> 00:04:44.389 kind in my evaluation. Drake May on the other side, 81 00:04:44.430 --> 00:04:46.230 who's supposed to be part of this new crop of 82 00:04:46.290 --> 00:04:48.990 superstar quarterbacks. 83 00:04:49.009 --> 00:04:50.089 23-33, 178 yards. 84 00:04:50.529 --> 00:04:54.269 That is an abysmal average per completion, 5.4. And he 85 00:04:54.310 --> 00:04:59.730 threw three interceptions, including the game-deciding tried to force it in, 86 00:04:59.990 --> 00:05:03.230 tried to win the game on the goal line, throwing 87 00:05:03.250 --> 00:05:05.310 it down to the goal line, and there was a 88 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.259 wide-open man in front of him, kind of like seemed 89 00:05:08.300 --> 00:05:11.279 like he should have had the right vision window for it. Instead, 90 00:05:11.300 --> 00:05:14.759 he forced it into double coverage through a pick that 91 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:19.910 allowed the hated Seattle Seahawks to seal a win, 13-10. 92 00:05:20.089 --> 00:05:25.269 And look, when I say the NFL is stink-proof, a 93 00:05:25.310 --> 00:05:28.879 game like this, If it's anything else, right? If the 94 00:05:28.980 --> 00:05:32.160 NBA Christmas Day game is the equivalent of this, if 95 00:05:33.110 --> 00:05:35.310 any kind of like, I don't know, World Series game 96 00:05:35.350 --> 00:05:38.050 in Major League Baseball is this bad, part of the 97 00:05:38.089 --> 00:05:42.889 storyline is, holy cow, what a crap game that was. Yes, 98 00:05:42.930 --> 00:05:45.389 you got a little bit of that coming off the 99 00:05:45.529 --> 00:05:49.290 NFL's kickoff, but mostly it's people now with fodder for 100 00:05:49.310 --> 00:05:50.310 whatever their issues are. 101 00:05:50.370 --> 00:05:53.689 It's people... ready to talk about, uh-oh, Drake May. 102 00:05:53.750 --> 00:05:55.899 This is a problem he's had forever, this is a 103 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.120 problem that's going to continue for the Patriots. The Drew 104 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.139 Locke thing is what it is, but now the Seahawks 105 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.910 are most likely going to be in the market for 106 00:06:05.990 --> 00:06:07.910 some type of quarterback. 107 00:06:09.189 --> 00:06:09.730 Revamp. 108 00:06:10.009 --> 00:06:14.250 Sam Darnold did not break his hip, thank goodness. The 109 00:06:14.350 --> 00:06:16.970 x-rays came back negative, but who knows how long he's 110 00:06:16.990 --> 00:06:17.569 going to be out. 111 00:06:18.129 --> 00:06:18.470 A.J. 112 00:06:18.550 --> 00:06:22.209 Brown, who was one of the biggest off-season acquisitions for 113 00:06:22.250 --> 00:06:24.540 the New England Patriots, one of the big stories of 114 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.579 roster remaking, really, in the whole National Football League, high 115 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.959 ankle sprain, and again, doesn't play anything close to the 116 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:33.459 full game. 117 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:34.220 He did finish with. 118 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:38.120 Three catches for 26 yards, but A.J. Brown was brought 119 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.360 in to be wide receiver number one. He was brought 120 00:06:40.420 --> 00:06:43.730 in to be a threat that Drake may... does not 121 00:06:43.810 --> 00:06:46.810 have outside of him and now a high ankle sprain 122 00:06:46.870 --> 00:06:50.230 which i heard albert breer on the rich eisen show 123 00:06:50.269 --> 00:06:53.910 this morning uh making his case that they should be 124 00:06:53.949 --> 00:06:56.550 called something else high ankle sprains should be called something 125 00:06:56.629 --> 00:07:00.370 else because it it lends us just from a linguistic 126 00:07:00.410 --> 00:07:04.569 perspective to underestimate how serious that injury is a high 127 00:07:04.620 --> 00:07:10.060 ankle sprain is significant ligament damage and we don't treat 128 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.360 it that way because we just think of a sprained 129 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.680 ankle Well, when you sprain your ankle, you just wait 130 00:07:15.699 --> 00:07:17.779 for the swelling to go down, and then you're fine, right? 131 00:07:17.819 --> 00:07:20.180 A high ankle sprain is a lot more intricate and 132 00:07:20.220 --> 00:07:23.180 complicated than that of an injury, so who knows how 133 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:25.540 long A.J. Brown is potentially going to be out for 134 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.680 the New England Patriots, and who knows how long Drake 135 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:31.550 May is going to have these same problems as he 136 00:07:31.579 --> 00:07:36.870 cannot seem to protect the football. James Peterson is back 137 00:07:36.910 --> 00:07:40.829 in our Broadway studios producing today. He's a big-time Patriots fan, 138 00:07:40.850 --> 00:07:45.470 so he's lamenting what happened, but 13, 10. 139 00:07:45.470 --> 00:07:47.329 Kind of a stinker of a game, but we're off 140 00:07:47.370 --> 00:07:49.649 and running with the NFL season, James. Yeah. 141 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.560 And to your point about the NFL being stink proof, 142 00:07:54.779 --> 00:07:57.660 maybe it was having to do with how great the 143 00:07:57.779 --> 00:07:59.180 crowd is at Seattle. 144 00:07:59.339 --> 00:08:02.959 Usually I tuned into the radio call. 145 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.060 We have the local Seattle Seahawks broadcast now home of 146 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:11.339 the Seahawks here for this season. Um, The crowd was great, 147 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.959 like a typical Seahawks crowd is. I hate how they 148 00:08:16.019

--> 00:08:18.519 refer to all of them as the 12s, but whatever. 149 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:22.980 They were a great crowd. I wonder if that atmosphere 150 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.699 also kind of made it feel more interesting than it was, OC, 151 00:08:26.790 --> 00:08:29.490 because I was into it for most of the game, 152 00:08:30.550 --> 00:08:32.610 even though it was terrible football. 153 00:08:33.110 --> 00:08:36.370 Look, JSN had a beautiful game, and he is one 154 00:08:36.409 --> 00:08:40.929 of the, Star player. He's the type of appointment viewing 155 00:08:40.970 --> 00:08:42.750 that some people want when they tune in. 156 00:08:44.230 --> 00:08:45.570 Eight catches, 122 yards. 157 00:08:46.110 --> 00:08:48.789 By the way, credit to Drew Locke because. 158 00:08:48.929 --> 00:08:52.230 Even as I criticize, not really criticize, I'm just speaking. 159 00:08:51.909 --> 00:08:54.570 Facts about what Drew Locke is as a quarterback, but 160 00:08:55.350 --> 00:08:59.570 credit to Drew Locke for realizing, like, setting himself up 161 00:08:59.590 --> 00:09:02.940 for success in a situation like that. It is a 162 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.360 nightmare scenario for a team when QB1 goes down early 163 00:09:07.460 --> 00:09:09.679 in the first game of the season and you've got 164 00:09:09.700 --> 00:09:12.120 to rely on a guy who, let's be honest, probably 165 00:09:12.139 --> 00:09:14.480 didn't think he was going to be getting reps in 166 00:09:14.539 --> 00:09:18.639 this game. But being a professional, getting out there and realizing, okay, 167 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.039 I have at my disposal one of the best wide 168 00:09:22.090 --> 00:09:25.049 receivers in the league. By some people's metric, the best 169 00:09:25.110 --> 00:09:28.090 wide receiver in the league. I'm going to lean on him, okay? 170 00:09:28.570 --> 00:09:31.419 I'm going to make myself.... 171 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:37.559 The type of person who just says, I'm not the 172 00:09:37.580 --> 00:09:38.799 best guy on the field right now. 173 00:09:39.139 --> 00:09:41.779 He is. Let me put the ball in his hands. 174 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:45.320 And he did that. And he did it enough that Seattle. 175 00:09:45.019 --> 00:09:49.480 Was able to eke out a win against the same 176 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.220 team that they beat in the Super Bowl, of course. 177 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.090 Now for Seattle, things get a lot more interesting because 178 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.860 you have to figure out the path forward with an 179 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.580 injured Sam Darnold. For the Patriots, you have to figure 180 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:07.340 out the path forward with an injured A.J. 181 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:07.700 Brown. 182 00:10:08.460 --> 00:10:12.159 My sincere hope is that injuries, not just for the 183 00:10:12.259 --> 00:10:15.860 NFL season, that injuries for the football season in general 184 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:19.610 are not a big part of the

conversation. It's one 185 00:10:19.649 --> 00:10:22.830 of the things that obviously for Utah football fans you've 186 00:10:22.850 --> 00:10:25.710 had to be sensitive to in recent years. Last year 187 00:10:25.750 --> 00:10:28.710 you were pretty lucky with being a mostly healthy team, 188 00:10:28.789 --> 00:10:30.929 but then you find out after the season that there 189 00:10:30.950 --> 00:10:33.860 were guys dealing with more severe bumps and bruises than 190 00:10:33.889 --> 00:10:37.279 we thought. Your starting quarterback was hampered for a good 191 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:38.159 portion of the year. 192 00:10:38.220 --> 00:10:39.240 He did miss a start. 193 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.440 We didn't feel the pain of that because Bert Ficklin 194 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.659 as a backup is a He's a quality starter. 195 00:10:45.710 --> 00:10:48.370 He's not just a quality backup. He's a quality starting quarterback. 196 00:10:49.789 --> 00:10:54.309 What you don't want is for injuries to define anything 197 00:10:54.429 --> 00:10:59.309 about Utah's season, your favorite NFL team season. And weirdly enough, 198 00:10:59.590 --> 00:11:02.450 even though it's your rival, I don't want injuries to 199 00:11:02.490 --> 00:11:07.009 define anything about BYU's football season. And already they're starting 200 00:11:07.049 --> 00:11:11.129 to feel some unfortunate kind of things that. 201 00:11:11.529 --> 00:11:14.419 Came out of a Utah Tech game, right? The main 202 00:11:14.460 --> 00:11:20.990 goal in a Utah Tech game is to just escape 203 00:11:21.029 --> 00:11:22.809 without any kind of season-ending injury. 204 00:11:23.730 --> 00:11:27.970 And I think that both of these injuries to important 205 00:11:27.990 --> 00:11:31.690 players for BYU in that Utah Tech game are classified 206 00:11:31.710 --> 00:11:34.929 as less than season-ending, but they're still significant. We'll have 207 00:11:34.990 --> 00:11:38.470 the official injury report coming up later on the show 208 00:11:38.529 --> 00:11:41.740 because it is a conference game. And in the Big 12, 209 00:11:41.730 --> 00:11:45.230 you have to put out injury reports. four conference football games. 210 00:11:45.309 --> 00:11:49.210 So BYU Arizona had to put out their injury report. 211 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:54.049 Nobody else does so far. Not this week at least. 212 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.639 So the NFL is back. College football is back. You 213 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:04.039 are having to prioritize your viewership on those two things 214 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:06.460 as we talked about on the show yesterday. And I 215 00:12:06.500 --> 00:12:12.480 put the poll question up yesterday which you prioritize as. 216 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:12.580 A football fan. 217 00:12:12.620 --> 00:12:17.029 College football the NFL, or you truly consider both to 218 00:12:17.070 --> 00:12:20.789 be a must-watch. Those Twitter polls run for 24 hours. 219 00:12:21.190 --> 00:12:22.029 And we got a. 220

00:12:22.990 --> 00:12:28.379 It's basically 71% of our listeners, to no surprise, prioritize 221 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.460 college football over the NFL. Whether that is truly indicative 222 00:12:33.620 --> 00:12:37.620 of the entire market in Utah, in Salt Lake City, 223 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:42.059 of the Wasatch Front or not, that is one of 224 00:12:42.539 --> 00:12:46.059 probably the few places that NFL football is. 225 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.440 Not king of the castle. 226 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:51.720 This is one of the last holdover major media markets, 227 00:12:51.779 --> 00:12:56.039 I would imagine, in America where college football still has 228 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.830 number one billing. There's maybe like, I'd really love to 229 00:13:00.870 --> 00:13:04.029 do a poll like that in Atlanta because obviously they 230 00:13:04.070 --> 00:13:04.970 have the NFL there. 231 00:13:05.029 --> 00:13:06.889 But the Falcons have been hapless and hopeless. 232 00:13:06.950 --> 00:13:09.549 And you got Georgia and Georgia Tech both that are 233 00:13:09.590 --> 00:13:12.610 both pretty relevant right now, especially the University of Georgia, 234 00:13:13.129 --> 00:13:18.309 very relevant right now. they've also got the Braves who 235 00:13:18.350 --> 00:13:21.500 are really good, the Hawks can't seem to figure things out. 236 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:24.639 I'd love to see what that looks like in Atlanta. 237 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.580 The rest of the southern markets, the rest of the 238 00:13:27.740 --> 00:13:31.059 SEC markets, where college football is of course king, for 239 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.440 the most part are not major television markets or anything 240 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.409 close to major television markets. And maybe I'm stretching a 241 00:13:36.429 --> 00:13:40.470 little bit, calling our little backwoods flyover state a major 242 00:13:40.490 --> 00:13:44.429 television market, but Depending on the metrics you're using, it's 243 00:13:44.490 --> 00:13:48.419 at least top 30. So this might be one of 244 00:13:48.429 --> 00:13:55.279 the final places that college football is still outpacing the 245 00:13:55.379 --> 00:13:58.740 NFL in terms of fan interest, if indeed that extends 246 00:13:58.820 --> 00:14:01.399 all the way through. And by the way, I don't 247 00:14:01.419 --> 00:14:03.379 know if the NFL is number two for most people, 248 00:14:03.899 --> 00:14:05.879 because a lot of the responses we got on. 249 00:14:05.820 --> 00:14:07.950 The show yesterday were about. 250 00:14:09.090 --> 00:14:11.330 Yes, I schedule my week and I schedule my life 251 00:14:11.389 --> 00:14:14.769 around college football and college football viewership and college football attendance. 252 00:14:15.330 --> 00:14:19.019 But also it's NHL hockey and NBA basketball. It's the 253 00:14:19.059 --> 00:14:22.740 jazz and the mammoth now. And, you know, maybe the 254 00:14:22.860 --> 00:14:26.379 NFL is not the king here in Salt Lake City 255 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.379 than it is in all these other markets, which until 256 00:14:29.419 --> 00:14:33.009 today I hadn't really thought about much because you just assume, 257 00:14:33.029 --> 00:14:36.690 all right, yeah, we're a proud American city and American 258 00:14:36.730 --> 00:14:39.830 sports fans are put the NFL number one on the list. 259 00:14:39.909 --> 00:14:43.039 It is the main driver of all things. And it 260 00:14:44.379 --> 00:14:46.740 doesn't have to be true here. Maybe it's not true. 261 00:14:46.779 --> 00:14:49.299 According to the poll, which is, of course, not the 262 00:14:49.340 --> 00:14:53.379 entire population of Salt Lake City, it isn't true. Maybe 263 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.990 it's just because you're listening to a college football-centric show 264 00:14:57.490 --> 00:15:00.429 that you're a college football prioritizer. 265 00:15:00.450 --> 00:15:02.450 877-353-0700. I'd love to hear from you. So your reactions to. 266 00:15:06.629 --> 00:15:12.289 The NFL kickoff last night, Seattle Seahawks sneak out a win, 267 00:15:12.789 --> 00:15:15.960 eke out a win, 13-10 over the New England Patriots. 268 00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:21.799 And the Drake-May conversation is the reason that the NFL, 269 00:15:21.899 --> 00:15:24.840 even in a game that should kind of lose with 270 00:15:24.860 --> 00:15:28.399 a game like that, but it's why they continue to win. 271 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.679 It's why they continue to be the major media attention 272 00:15:31.730 --> 00:15:34.879 driver in the United States of America because... You've got 273 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:38.980 a guy now in Drake May who some people, there's 274 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.519 a good contingent of people, call it a 50 or 275 00:15:42.539 --> 00:15:47.429 a 60-40 split, who believe that Drake May is that dude, 276 00:15:47.929 --> 00:15:50.070 is one of these guys that gets his name into 277 00:15:50.129 --> 00:15:53.389 conversation sooner than later with like the Josh Allens and 278 00:15:53.409 --> 00:15:55.250 the Lamar Jacksons of the world. 279 00:15:56.129 --> 00:15:58.509 I'm not convinced on Drake May and a performance like 280 00:15:58.549 --> 00:15:59.049 that one. 281 00:15:58.970 --> 00:16:02.720 Last night where he showed some of the ugly sort 282 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:07.200 of issues of his previous career well, college football and 283 00:16:07.220 --> 00:16:10.860 the first two seasons of his NFL career, that reared 284 00:16:10.899 --> 00:16:14.299 its ugly head again for the Patriots. If you're Mike Rabel, 285 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.899 that's a bigger problem for you than Diana Rossini is. Like, 286 00:16:18.899 --> 00:16:21.940 you can survive all that off-the-field stuff. You cannot survive 287 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.850 Drake May not being the franchise quarterback that. 288 00:16:25.750 --> 00:16:26.549 You need him to be. 289 00:16:27.389 --> 00:16:30.929 And when you

flip on the radio this morning here 290 00:16:30.970 --> 00:16:33.870 in Salt Lake City or anywhere else, That is the debate. 291 00:16:34.330 --> 00:16:37.950 That is the question. Is Drake May that guy or 292 00:16:38.029 --> 00:16:40.509 is he not? The Patriots thought they had found a 293 00:16:40.549 --> 00:16:43.779 guy who was going to end up as a top five, 294 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:44.440 top ten. 295 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:45.899 Quarterback in the NFL. 296 00:16:46.259 --> 00:16:51.100 And it is prohibitively rare for anybody to overachieve the talent, 297 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:55.730 the execution ability of their quarterback. We have rare examples 298 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:00.149 of that existing in the past. Obviously, the 90s Tampa 299 00:17:00.169 --> 00:17:03.629 Bay Buccaneers with Trent Dilfer as their quarterback. Obviously, you 300 00:17:03.909 --> 00:17:07.450 had a couple iterations now of the Baltimore Ravens, the 301 00:17:07.509 --> 00:17:12.390 Joe Flacco Ravens, primarily used as an example here, where, like, 302 00:17:12.490 --> 00:17:15.880 it's not the quarterback that is the driving force behind things. 303 00:17:16.460 --> 00:17:21.160 But the New England Patriots are a perfect example of 304 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:25.059 the franchise, the ultimate example, probably, of a franchise that 305 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.140 goes as their quarterback goes, right? And there were questions 306 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:31.099 about whether or not it was a Tom Brady thing 307 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:32.240 or it was a Bill Belichick thing. 308 00:17:32.259 --> 00:17:33.640 We got the answer to that question. 309 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:36.220 I think Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay and played 310 00:17:36.259 --> 00:17:37.579 a couple seasons there just to. 311 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.480 Give us the answer to that question, to leave no 312 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:42.579 doubt that he was the guy. 313 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.220 The Kansas City Chiefs, a lot of people will give 314 00:17:47.779 --> 00:17:50.069 almost as much credit to Andy Reid as they give 315 00:17:50.950 --> 00:17:55.170 to Patrick Mahomes. And Andy Reid has always been respected 316 00:17:55.190 --> 00:17:57.569 and always been considered one of the great coaches in 317 00:17:57.609 --> 00:18:03.029 the NFL game When did he get elevated? When did 318 00:18:03.069 --> 00:18:05.609 he get pushed to a new level, a new echelon 319 00:18:05.690 --> 00:18:09.240 of respect? It's when he got the quarterback. Not just 320 00:18:09.380 --> 00:18:13.480 a good quarterback, but he got a great quarterback in 321 00:18:13.539 --> 00:18:14.359 Patrick Mahomes. 322 00:18:14.460 --> 00:18:15.220 And he was able to. 323 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.259 I mean, he had Donovan McNabb for years in Philadelphia. 324 00:18:18.619 --> 00:18:21.000 Wasn't able to quite get over the hump. He had 325 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:24.819 Alex Smith, who's criminally underrated, in my opinion, as an 326 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:29.509 NFL quarterback. Not able to quite get over the hump. Almost. 327 00:18:29.529 --> 00:18:29.650 Almost. 328 00:18:30.150 --> 00:18:30.930 So, so close. 329 00:18:31.589 --> 00:18:34.130 And then you get the right quarterback and you become 330 00:18:34.299 --> 00:18:38.579 a borderline dynasty. And it elevates who you are as 331 00:18:38.619 --> 00:18:40.700 a coach. If you're Mike Vrabel, if you're the New 332 00:18:40.740 --> 00:18:43.680 England Patriots, if you're Robert Kraft, they know it better 333 00:18:43.700 --> 00:18:44.900 than anybody does. 334 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:51.059 That good is the enemy of great. Quarterback play is 335 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:51.619 perhaps the. 336 00:18:51.740 --> 00:18:55.200 Best example of that phenomenon you will ever see in 337 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:59.529 your life. Good is the enemy of great. Meaning, If 338 00:18:59.549 --> 00:19:02.210 you have a good quarterback, he's too good to replace. 339 00:19:03.049 --> 00:19:06.079 He's too good to talk about drafting somebody else to develop. 340 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:09.819 He's too good to bench when things start to go 341 00:19:09.859 --> 00:19:10.740 a little bit awry. 342 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:12.980 But he's not great. 343 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.589 He's not someone that he's Jimmy Garoppolo with the San 344 00:19:16.619 --> 00:19:19.470 Francisco 49ers where he's going to get you to the party. 345 00:19:19.950 --> 00:19:22.109 But when he's got somebody open in the end zone, 346 00:19:22.130 --> 00:19:24.089 he's going to miss that one throw. 347 00:19:24.329 --> 00:19:28.670 That can make you a Super Bowl champion. He's the 348 00:19:28.710 --> 00:19:30.559 guy that's going to make the one bad decision. 349 00:19:30.619 --> 00:19:34.960 And it's an overreaction to one single game from Drake 350 00:19:34.980 --> 00:19:37.900 May at the beginning of an NFL season. But it 351 00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:40.420 is something that you have to talk about in the 352 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.109 grander scheme of things when it comes to football in general. 353 00:19:45.029 --> 00:19:48.529 Good is the enemy of great with quarterbacks more than 354 00:19:48.569 --> 00:19:52.000 anyone else. It's true with every position, but other positions 355 00:19:52.180 --> 00:19:55.309 it is masked by the people around them. It is 356 00:19:55.390 --> 00:19:58.509 masked by, like, oh, you've got two good linebackers and 357 00:19:58.589 --> 00:20:01.910 one great linebacker. Those two good linebackers are still a 358 00:20:01.950 --> 00:20:09.119 problem in end-of-game scenarios, goal-line scenarios. third and short scenarios 359 00:20:09.140 --> 00:20:11.900 where you need to make a play because they're good enough, 360 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:14.440 they're going to make a tackle, but if they're great, 361 00:20:14.460 --> 00:20:16.099 they're going to make a tackle before that. 362 00:20:16.019 --> 00:20:17.839 Guy

crosses the line to gain. 363 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:19.119 Right? 364 00:20:20.569 --> 00:20:22.849 If they make the tackle anyway, you're not benching them, 365 00:20:22.869 --> 00:20:24.589 you're not pulling them, you're not saying, all right, we 366 00:20:24.609 --> 00:20:27.890 need to give this freshman a chance. One of the 367 00:20:27.930 --> 00:20:31.210 things that Utah football, we need to pay close, close, 368 00:20:31.250 --> 00:20:34.460 close attention to this season where there are questions that 369 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.660 have to be answered. Where are players good and where 370 00:20:39.019 --> 00:20:41.740 are we finding guys that are actually great? I think 371 00:20:42.019 --> 00:20:46.799 Devin Dampier is flirting with greatness. I think he's a 372 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:50.240 guy that because of his dynamism, we will potentially talk 373 00:20:50.289 --> 00:20:52.529 about as one of the great quarterbacks to roll through 374 00:20:52.569 --> 00:20:57.930 this university. He's got to get more zip on the 375 00:20:57.970 --> 00:21:00.269 deep balls. We're going to have Devin on the show today, 376 00:21:00.329 --> 00:21:02.150 Dishing with Dev. We're going to talk about the things 377 00:21:02.170 --> 00:21:04.130 that he liked and he didn't like from his first 378 00:21:04.190 --> 00:21:09.599 week's performance. against the University of Idaho, right? Way Sean Parker. 379 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.180 We know he's good. We know that Way Sean is good. 380 00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:19.150 Is he great? We find out as this season progresses. 381 00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:21.130 We might start to get a better indication of that 382 00:21:21.569 --> 00:21:26.329 with Arkansas, because Way Sean, in a lot of cases 383 00:21:26.410 --> 00:21:29.710 last year, didn't have to be great. I think that 384 00:21:29.789 --> 00:21:32.059 somebody had a conversation with him in this offseason. I 385 00:21:32.099 --> 00:21:35.140 think Mark Ottawaya pulled him aside and said, look, I 386 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:37.799 know you can be great. I think you're almost there. 387 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.019 We know you're good. I need great out of you 388 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.710 instead of good. And especially this year because last year 389 00:21:45.730 --> 00:21:47.910 you had great on your offensive line. 390 00:21:48.829 --> 00:21:49.190 Okay? 391 00:21:50.410 --> 00:21:53.049 I need you to now be the thing in the 392 00:21:53.069 --> 00:21:55.809 run game that is great. And if we get good 393 00:21:56.470 --> 00:21:58.990 out of the offensive line, maybe we get great. 394 00:21:59.069 --> 00:21:59.630 I don't know if we do. 395 00:22:01.869 --> 00:22:04.150 But if we get greatness out of you and goodness 396 00:22:04.230 --> 00:22:06.630 out of them, now we can have a successful running game. 397 00:22:08.109 --> 00:22:09.990 In football, you have to have a mix, obviously. 398 00:22:10.009 --> 00:22:12.970 You can't expect every single position to be great all 399 00:22:13.009 --> 00:22:17.319 the time. You can't expect every individual player to be 400 00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:21.319 a great. There are plenty of years that we have 401 00:22:21.339 --> 00:22:24.660 watched this Utah football team, even really solid Utah football. 402 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.940 Teams, where the. 403 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:33.519 Overall collection of talent is The whole being greater than 404 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:35.900 the sum of the parts was why Utah was good. 405 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:41.259 There have been other years where greatness from an important 406 00:22:41.299 --> 00:22:45.279 position or two propelled what is an otherwise average or 407 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:49.380 slightly above average or maybe just good roster to great things. 408 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:53.900 I mean, we're going to look back on some of 409 00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:57.359 those Pac-12 championship years, those two Pac-12 championship years, and 410 00:22:57.380 --> 00:23:01.660 we're going to examine very, very carefully how much Cam 411 00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:05.680 Rising and him being great had to do with them 412 00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:09.220 being successful versus, like, how many great players were there 413 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:15.420 on those rosters? Sorry, James, I didn't hear what you 414 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:21.390 were trying to say there. Okay, Darnold, as expected, we'll 415 00:23:21.430 --> 00:23:25.170 miss week two. Not really part of the conversation here, 416 00:23:25.269 --> 00:23:29.609 but good being the enemy of great. Drew Locke, if 417 00:23:29.650 --> 00:23:33.000 you can get to good... There's enough great on that 418 00:23:33.059 --> 00:23:37.380 Seattle Seahawks team that maybe the team overall can achieve 419 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.769 things that, well, they hope to because that's a team 420 00:23:41.809 --> 00:23:46.430 that was a Super Bowl champion last year, and they're 421 00:23:46.450 --> 00:23:51.680 spoiled now but not satisfied. We're down here at Southern 422 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.799 Steer Butcher. It is, as I have told you for 423 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:59.059 weeks and weeks now, It's not a brand-new concept. It's 424 00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:02.519 the friendly neighborhood butcher that your grandparents had, that maybe 425 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.900 your parents had, but with a modern twist on it 426 00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:08.160 and the mastermind of the whole thing. Dan Gunther is 427 00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:10.599 sitting down here with me. First of all, thanks for 428 00:24:10.619 --> 00:24:11.420 having us out here today. 429 00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:12.160 Yeah, no worries. 430 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:13.569 It's great to have you. 431 00:24:13.789 --> 00:24:14.049 Whoa. 432 00:24:14.289 --> 00:24:16.789 Sorry, I've got to get the sound. Push that mic 433 00:24:16.809 --> 00:24:20.190 a little closer there. Okay, I'm still not hearing Dan.

434 00:24:20.210 --> 00:24:22.430 We've got to get Dan's headset figured out just a 435 00:24:22.450 --> 00:24:25.890 little bit. But, yeah, we're down here at Southern Steer Butcher. 436 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.259 We've got the sampler combos. We've got the daily rewards program. Thursdays, 437 00:24:30.349 --> 00:24:35.549 it's 20% off the burgers, the sausages, and the hot dogs, 438 00:24:35.609 --> 00:24:40.730 getting you ready for the weekend, the tailgate party, the 439 00:24:40.789 --> 00:24:45.700 football watch party, the barbecue, because there's nothing better than 440 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:50.700 a nice little late summer barbecue, a couple of cold beverages, 441 00:24:51.099 --> 00:24:55.039 maybe a side or two, but the main event in 442 00:24:55.059 --> 00:24:55.660 all those things. 443 00:24:56.529 --> 00:24:57.059 Is the meats. 444 00:24:57.319 --> 00:24:59.980 All right, let's see if we can get Dan's mic 445 00:25:00.019 --> 00:25:01.200 working here one more time. 446 00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:02.920 Give me a test, test. 447 00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:03.900 All right, test, test. 448 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.079 Nothing yet. Okay, we're going to have to figure that out. 449 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:14.609 To avoid obnoxious radio and terrible radio here, Dan, you 450 00:25:14.650 --> 00:25:16.970 convey to me, just give me a thumbs up or 451 00:25:16.990 --> 00:25:22.079 thumbs down here, chicken, pork, full line of marinades, the 452 00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:25.410 daily special today I already mentioned, And you've got the 453 00:25:25.470 --> 00:25:27.690 exotic meats as well, as we have talked about. 454 00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:30.069 What kind of. 455 00:25:30.069 --> 00:25:33.890 All right, we're getting one more headset on here. These 456 00:25:33.950 --> 00:25:36.279 family meal options, you and I talked about that the 457 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:37.319 first time I came down. 458 00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:41.109 The family meal options that, you know, if I'm like a... 459 00:25:41.380 --> 00:25:43.519 I consider myself a barbecue guy. 460 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:45.660 I like firing up the smoker. I like to be 461 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.410 a little bit of a gourmand when it comes to 462 00:25:47.430 --> 00:25:51.170 the meats. Not everyone is that way. So you've got these... 463 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:54.420 These family meal options where I can come and I 464 00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:57.150 can pick up everything I need to feed my family 465 00:25:57.470 --> 00:25:59.210 and just walk right back out the door, throw it 466 00:25:59.250 --> 00:26:01.009 in an air fryer or on the grill or whatever. 467 00:26:01.690 --> 00:26:02.269 Dinner is done. 468 00:26:02.589 --> 00:26:07.210 Yeah, take and bake sides. I mean, we have twice-baked potatoes. 469 00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:13.319 You've got stuffed mushrooms, jalapeno poppers. We've got rosemary carrots. Honestly, 470 00:26:13.339 --> 00:26:18.099 you know, think about it. Anything that's taken home. Throw 471 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.599 it in the oven. Like you said, even here when 472 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:23.940 we're doing free samples, we throw our marinated steak tips 473 00:26:24.099 --> 00:26:27.079 just in the air fryer at 400 for like nine minutes, 474 00:26:27.299 --> 00:26:31.119 and it comes out just awesome, very tender and juicy. 475 00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:33.579 Can we talk about the free samples? 476 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:35.859 It's a problem for me. My mouth is watering smelling 477 00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.480 those things. I went and I made the mistake. I 478 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:41.099 grabbed a little toothpick. I had both of the free 479 00:26:41.140 --> 00:26:43.859 samples that are out here. But you have, like, this 480 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.779 is what I mean when we're talking about an old 481 00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:48.960 concept with the friendly neighborhood butcher with the modern twist 482 00:26:49.019 --> 00:26:51.700 on it, you've got like this magical machine back there, 483 00:26:52.059 --> 00:26:56.700 the tumbler, the marinator, that really infuses the flavors and 484 00:26:56.740 --> 00:26:57.980 keeps the moisture in those meats. 485 00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:01.220 Yeah, it's kind of a proprietary piece of equipment that 486 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:08.410 Southern Steer butchers have incorporated. The concept comes from New England, basically. 487 00:27:08.490 --> 00:27:12.150 Anybody who's ever visited the Boston area or grew up 488 00:27:12.190 --> 00:27:15.079 in that area You know, the marinated steak tips is 489 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.099 kind of like the Philly cheesesteak of that area, right? 490 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.539 Where you put the sirloin steak tips in this vacuum 491 00:27:22.579 --> 00:27:25.630 tumbler and it breaks down the muscle fiber and tenderizes 492 00:27:25.690 --> 00:27:29.269 the meat. And the vacuum pressure forces that marinade flavor 493 00:27:29.309 --> 00:27:31.769 and juices all the way throughout the piece of meat. 494 00:27:32.569 --> 00:27:36.250 And you can't overcook it. You can't cook it dry. 495 00:27:36.309 --> 00:27:39.180 It's always going to be tender. Back East, they put 496 00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.680 it on a hoagie roll with, you know, mushrooms and 497 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.759 peppers and you know, onions and make a sandwich out 498 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:47.079 of it. But here, you know, people just take it home, 499 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.000 you know, throw it in the air fryer, throw it 500 00:27:49.059 --> 00:27:51.190 on the grill, and it's just terrific. 501 00:27:52.049 --> 00:27:55.049 When you say meat in the air fryer, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 502 00:27:55.069 --> 00:27:56.509 what are we doing? Meat in the air fryer? No, 503 00:27:56.529 --> 00:27:59.210 that's blasphemy. You've got to put that bad boy on 504 00:27:59.250 --> 00:28:01.150 the grill. But it comes out perfectly. 505

00:28:01.250 --> 00:28:04.390 I'm telling you, come down here to 1705 North Redwood 506 00:28:04.430 --> 00:28:05.779 Road in Saratoga Springs. 507 00:28:06.339 --> 00:28:07.339 Try the steak tips. 508 00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:10.599 Try everything they recommend because so far you've not led 509 00:28:10.619 --> 00:28:10.960 us wrong. 510 00:28:11.890 --> 00:28:16.829 Yeah, it's been an awesome opportunity here to serve in 511 00:28:16.869 --> 00:28:20.640 this community. Southern Steer also believes in giving back to 512 00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:22.619 the community. So there's a lot of times where we'll 513 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.180 take some of our steak and some of our marinated 514 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.759 meats and we'll take it to first responders like fire 515 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:34.289 stations and senior living centers and so forth. So Project 52, 516 00:28:34.289 --> 00:28:37.890 once a week every year, we try to get involved 517 00:28:37.970 --> 00:28:39.170 in the community and give back. 518 00:28:39.869 --> 00:28:40.390 Last thing. 519 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:42.880 Because we've got to get to an interview here in 520 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.680 just a second. But, you know, families out here now, 521 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.180 you read so much stuff about the food supply chain 522 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.859 and the hormones and the crazy stuff that's being put 523 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.569 into your meats. You're getting this meat from the cleanest 524 00:28:57.609 --> 00:29:04.009 sources possible, from the artisanal sort of, you know, family-friendly 525 00:29:04.089 --> 00:29:08.329 type farmers. Southern Steer really pays close attention to their sourcing. 526 00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:11.250 Yeah, it's the whole reason for the concept, honestly, because 527 00:29:11.289 --> 00:29:13.230 you don't know what you're getting when you go to 528 00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:16.019 the grocery store. You don't know what you get when 529 00:29:16.539 --> 00:29:18.819 you just walk in and buy a shrink-wrapped piece of meat. 530 00:29:19.539 --> 00:29:22.539 Even today, the government's announced that they're importing meat from 531 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.880 Argentina and Chile and Mexico, wherever. All of our cattle 532 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:31.599 is raised here in very specific cattle ranches where it's 533 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.240 sustainably raised. It's grass-fed all the way up until the 534 00:29:35.299 --> 00:29:38.960 week before it goes to the processing facility, and it's 535 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.609 all USDA pure black Angus prime beef. 536 00:29:44.410 --> 00:29:45.690 Come to Southern Steer. 537 00:29:45.890 --> 00:29:47.910 Elevate the meat that you're putting on the grill, that 538 00:29:47.930 --> 00:29:50.289 you're putting in the air fryer, that you're putting, more importantly, 539 00:29:50.309 --> 00:29:52.930 in your body and in the body of your family 540 00:29:52.970 --> 00:29:57.339 members and your loved ones. It is high-quality, artisanal, humanely 541 00:29:57.420 --> 00:30:00.170 raised meat, They are paying close attention to where it 542 00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:03.309 comes from so you don't have to worry about that. 543 00:30:03.309 --> 00:30:05.869 1705 North Redwood Road, Saratoga Springs. We're going to be 544 00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:09.390 down here throughout the show. And, of course, they're always open. 545 00:30:09.490 --> 00:30:12.490 They're always ready to supply your tailgate party, your family barbecue, 546 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:13.380 anything like that. 547 00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:13.730 Right, Dan? 548 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.599 Yeah, come on down and get some free samples. Pick 549 00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:19.940 up some jalapeno poppers for the weekend. They're really popular today. 550 00:30:20.019 --> 00:30:21.619 Those armadillo eggs over there? 551 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.920 Yeah, we could talk about that. That's amazing. 552 00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:26.559 We'll talk about that when Dan sits down with us 553 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:26.960 next time. 554 00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:28.569 That will be coming up in about a minute. Half 555 00:30:28.589 --> 00:30:31.390 an hour. Glad to be here at Southern Steer. Glad 556 00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:35.809 to have them part of the show here on ESPN 700. 92.1 FM, 557 00:30:35.829 --> 00:30:39.190 we talk Sumer sports and the NFL kickoff next on 558 00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:40.529 Utah's number one sports talk. 559 00:30:41.950 --> 00:30:44.869 Born in the U.S.A. 560 00:30:44.890 --> 00:30:47.650 I was born in the U.S.A. 561 00:30:47.670 --> 00:30:50.490 You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch 562 00:30:50.529 --> 00:30:53.009 Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 563 00:30:58.470 --> 00:31:00.509 Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show, coming at you 564 00:31:00.609 --> 00:31:05.450 live from Southern Steer Butcher, 1705 North Redwood Road in 565 00:31:05.509 --> 00:31:14.279 Saratoga Springs. Thursdays down here, you get 20% off hot dogs, sausages, burgers, 566 00:31:14.859 --> 00:31:17.980 everything for your neighborhood barbecue, your tailgate party, as we 567 00:31:18.019 --> 00:31:20.900 march closer towards a kickoff between the University of Utah 568 00:31:21.849 --> 00:31:27.230 and Arkansas. But we're talking a little NFL today. at 569 00:31:27.269 --> 00:31:30.990 least here in hour number one. NFL games kicked off 570 00:31:31.049 --> 00:31:33.750 last night, officially in the regular season, with kind of 571 00:31:33.789 --> 00:31:36.309 a stinker, if we're being honest, between the Patriots and 572 00:31:36.329 --> 00:31:40.880 the Seahawks. Thursday night football preview here on the Sean 573 00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:43.799 O'Connell Show as we get ready for the one that 574 00:31:43.859 --> 00:31:47.680 everyone really cares about, the Melbourne-Australia game between my San 575 00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:51.799 Francisco 49ers

and the Super Bowl favorite, L.A. 576 00:31:51.859 --> 00:31:52.240 Rams. 577 00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:56.069 Ben Lindsey from Sumer Sports is kind enough to join 578 00:31:56.109 --> 00:31:57.950 us here to talk about what we saw last night, 579 00:31:57.970 --> 00:32:01.289 what we should expect from tonight, and all things NFL. 580 00:32:01.309 --> 00:32:04.400 He is the senior content researcher at Sumer Sports, at 581 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.160 BenLindsey underscore on Twitter, if you're not already following. 582 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.660 Ben, welcome to the show. How are you? I'm doing well. 583 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.779 Can't complain. Had NFL football last night. Had some more tonight. 584 00:32:15.740 --> 00:32:17.529 Full slate this weekend, so I'm good. 585 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.200 So back to busy season for all of you folks 586 00:32:21.299 --> 00:32:23.720 at Sumer Sports. And one thing I really truly appreciate 587 00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:28.630 is the analytical approach from Sumer Sports. But it seems 588 00:32:28.670 --> 00:32:32.490 like you, better than anyone, translates those numbers into, like, 589 00:32:32.549 --> 00:32:38.190 practical football information, practical layman's terms that we could all understand. 590 00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:43.180 And with that in mind, Drake May last night was 591 00:32:43.259 --> 00:32:46.700 not the Drake May that the Patriots needed him to 592 00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:48.519 be if they want to make a return. to the 593 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.799 super bowl which numbers really jumped out for you besides 594 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.559 the three turnovers of course on what made drake mays 595 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:56.059 night so disastrous. 596 00:32:57.259 --> 00:33:00.680 Yeah the the big one that jumped out especially through 597 00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:04.750 the first three quarters was his average time to throw 598 00:33:04.849 --> 00:33:07.769 so how long it takes from when the ball snapped 599 00:33:07.789 --> 00:33:09.970 to when he gets rid of the ball was 2.5 600 00:33:09.970 --> 00:33:11.910 seconds which was the same as his average depth of 601 00:33:11.930 --> 00:33:14.809 target which is basically just how far downfield the ball 602 00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:17.789 is going on average So their game plan coming in 603 00:33:17.869 --> 00:33:20.579 early was we saw what happened in the Super Bowl, 604 00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:23.660 the Seahawks' pass rush, got them on the ground a ton, 605 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:25.839 forced them to make bad plays under pressure. 606 00:33:25.859 --> 00:33:27.339 And the Patriots came in and were like. 607 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.140 That's not going to happen again. We're going to get 608 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.539 the ball out. It's going to be a lot of 609 00:33:30.660 --> 00:33:34.049 quick swing passes underneath, passes close to the line of scrimmage. 610 00:33:34.789 --> 00:33:37.490 And through three quarters, that

was working okay, right? But 611 00:33:37.509 --> 00:33:39.789 they weren't really getting any explosive plays. And then when 612 00:33:39.809 --> 00:33:41.960 you saw at the end of the game, When he 613 00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:44.839 did try to force the ball downfield, throw it 15-plus 614 00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:48.400 yards downfield, that's when those mistakes came. And that's really 615 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.259 what Seattle tries to do. They try to make you 616 00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:53.619 drive the ball down the field methodically. They do a 617 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:56.700 really good job, since Mike McDonald's gone there, of taking 618 00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.700 away those big plays. And that was really the story 619 00:33:59.740 --> 00:34:01.359 for the Patriots a lot of last year, was Drake 620 00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:03.660 May was awesome pushing the ball downfield. One of the 621 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.589 most efficient quarterbacks in the NFL wasn't able to do 622 00:34:06.609 --> 00:34:10.730 that against Seattle. And ended up making mistakes when he 623 00:34:10.769 --> 00:34:12.110 did try to push the ball downfield. 624 00:34:13.969 --> 00:34:16.880 I can't say that I fault the game plan of 625 00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:19.920 trying to make those short throws turn into big yardage 626 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.559 if A.J. Brown is available, because I'm looking at your 627 00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:27.679 Twitter right now, and they mentioned it on the broadcast 628 00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:30.969 as well, but A.J. Brown does more than anyone in 629 00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:33.829 the NFL when it comes to receiving yards off of 630 00:34:33.929 --> 00:34:36.789 slant routes. And as you referenced in your tweet, it's 631 00:34:36.829 --> 00:34:38.929 not particularly close. This is a guy who turns a 632 00:34:38.949 --> 00:34:42.550 short throw into a big play. Obviously, he was a 633 00:34:42.570 --> 00:34:46.369 big offseason acquisition for the Patriots. But does that game 634 00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:48.269 plan then go out the window if you have a 635 00:34:48.329 --> 00:34:50.170 compromised or an absent A.J. 636 00:34:50.230 --> 00:34:50.630 Brown? 637 00:34:51.289 --> 00:34:53.929 Was that a big problem for them and maybe the 638 00:34:53.969 --> 00:34:55.440 reason why things went awry? 639 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.619 I think so. And they have some other players like 640 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.760 Pop Douglas in the slot as a guy who can 641 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.099 create after the catch a little bit. But really when 642 00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:06.760 the Patriots, you come out of this offseason and there's 643 00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:09.880 talk about they had a light schedule. They're probably going 644 00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:11.900 to regress a little bit this year. But at the 645 00:35:11.940 --> 00:35:14.880 same time, their receiving core on paper looked a lot 646 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.639 better coming into this year. Bringing in A.J. Brown, who, 647 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.739 like you mentioned, can create after the catch, can also 648 00:35:19.820 --> 00:35:23.750 win downfields. and honestly should have had a pretty easy 649 00:35:23.789 --> 00:35:27.230 touchdown on the DPI, that guy called, that May underthrew. 650 00:35:27.750 --> 00:35:30.590 You bring in Romeo Dobbs, who was a consistent receiver 651 00:35:30.610 --> 00:35:32.699 for Green Bay. He has a massive drop in the game. 652 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.260 So that was one of the more disappointing things in 653 00:35:35.300 --> 00:35:38.519 that game is those acquisitions at wide receiver that were 654 00:35:38.539 --> 00:35:42.000 supposed to improve the room. Brown gets hurt. Dobbs doesn't 655 00:35:42.019 --> 00:35:45.480 have a great game. Really underperform. And like you mentioned, 656 00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:48.260 that game plan, it's harder to execute, right, if you 657 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.420 don't have these receivers that you're getting the ball out two, 658 00:35:51.460 --> 00:35:53.780 three yards past the line of scrimmage, and they're not 659 00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:56.099 able to break tackles, turn those into bigger games. 660 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.840 Seattle was dealing with their own problems, obviously. Sam Darnold 661 00:36:02.889 --> 00:36:05.170 goes down early in this game, and Drew Locke, from 662 00:36:05.210 --> 00:36:09.489 a numbers perspective, has not traditionally been all that fantastic. 663 00:36:10.309 --> 00:36:13.289 I can't imagine that he pictured any scenario in which 664 00:36:13.329 --> 00:36:14.969 he was going to be playing this much of the 665 00:36:15.010 --> 00:36:17.969 first game of the season, but he did enough to 666 00:36:17.989 --> 00:36:20.570 get the job done. and he leaned on Jackson Smith 667 00:36:20.610 --> 00:36:23.570 and Jigba in order to do so. What did the 668 00:36:23.610 --> 00:36:25.369 numbers say about Drew Locke's performance? 669 00:36:26.849 --> 00:36:28.030 Yeah, I thought he was solid. 670 00:36:28.329 --> 00:36:30.269 And like you mentioned, it was a lot of Jackson 671 00:36:30.289 --> 00:36:34.679 Smith and Jigba. That was basically their passing offense in 2025. 672 00:36:34.670 --> 00:36:38.030 He led the NFL with a 36% target share. Last 673 00:36:38.090 --> 00:36:40.590 night he had a 46% target share. So the ball 674 00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:43.030 almost half the time is going to Jackson Smith and Jigba. 675 00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:45.909 But I think what Seattle does well is they move 676 00:36:45.929 --> 00:36:48.599 him around offensively. the formation a good amount. They get 677 00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:50.199 him outside, they get him in the slot. You saw 678 00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:52.920 a few plays in the game yesterday where he's coming 679 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.860 out of the backfield to try to get him favorable matchups. 680 00:36:57.050 --> 00:36:58.449 So Locke

executed. 681 00:36:58.889 --> 00:37:01.670 And I also think that Seattle did a pretty good 682 00:37:01.690 --> 00:37:05.590 job on outside zone runs specifically, with Judarian Price coming 683 00:37:05.670 --> 00:37:10.579 in to replace Kenneth Walker. Stat line wasn't super impressive, 684 00:37:11.619 --> 00:37:13.480 but I thought the tape looked pretty good on him. 685 00:37:14.329 --> 00:37:16.269 And them being able to lean on the run game, 686 00:37:16.710 --> 00:37:19.820 not ask Drew Locke to do anything crazy. And then 687 00:37:19.889 --> 00:37:22.599 obviously with that defense, you don't have to be super 688 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.039 explosive offensively in a lot of games. And I thought 689 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:26.900 Locke handled what they asked him to do. 690 00:37:28.099 --> 00:37:31.380 Ben Lindsay is our guest here talking NFL football. Ben 691 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.530 is the senior content researcher at Sumer Sports who does great, 692 00:37:35.769 --> 00:37:39.110 great work on examining the game of football from an 693 00:37:39.170 --> 00:37:43.199 analytics perspective and then translating those numbers into to Laban's 694 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.860 terms for all of us out here who are trying 695 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:50.050 to figure out the intricacies of football. Thursday night game 696 00:37:50.110 --> 00:37:52.969 and one of the big storylines so far as we 697 00:37:53.010 --> 00:37:58.309 get closer to Rams-Niners is the difference in travel schedules. 698 00:37:58.670 --> 00:38:00.840 The Niners have been in Australia for a week plus. 699 00:38:00.889 --> 00:38:04.119 The Rams flew out yesterday and they're going to be 700 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.960 there on the ground for like 36 hours or whatever 701 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.000 the total is going to end up being in Australia. 702 00:38:10.510 --> 00:38:12.690 And the difference of approaches is going to be, I think, 703 00:38:12.750 --> 00:38:16.010 examined very carefully by all these teams that are asked 704 00:38:16.170 --> 00:38:19.840 to fly and play international games as we move forward. 705 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.320 Do we have an analytical perspective yet on which is 706 00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:26.639 the better chance or which is the better idea for 707 00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:28.730 a team to maximize their success? 708 00:38:31.190 --> 00:38:34.639 I can't say I do. I'm not a sleep jet 709 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:39.239 lag expert, but it's certainly an interesting thing to talk about, right, 710 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.539 with the two different approaches. The sample size is going 711 00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.000 to be one, and there's a lot of other factors. 712 00:38:44.860 --> 00:38:47.420 But it is something that coming out of this game, 713 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.820 even like beyond just the result of this game, how 714 00:38:50.860 --> 00:38:55.590 it impacts week two with the 49ers trying to get readjusted, 715

00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.409 maybe the Rams. have less readjustment to do coming back. 716 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.869 There's definitely a lot of interesting angles from that perspective. 717 00:39:03.190 --> 00:39:05.849 But I don't know if there's an analytical lean for 718 00:39:05.869 --> 00:39:06.329 me on that. 719 00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:09.389 I'm a Niners guy, and so this is a game 720 00:39:09.469 --> 00:39:12.909 I was circling from the very beginning of the offseason. 721 00:39:12.949 --> 00:39:15.889 And then, of course, you get the news that Aaron 722 00:39:15.929 --> 00:39:18.050 Donald's coming out of retirement and he's going to be 723 00:39:18.150 --> 00:39:22.210 part of this team alongside Myles Garrett. And then, oh wait, 724 00:39:22.670 --> 00:39:26.139 Aaron Donald is not going to be In Australia, when 725 00:39:26.179 --> 00:39:28.590 you remove an Aaron Donald, even an Aaron Donald that 726 00:39:28.650 --> 00:39:29.949 is two years out of the game. 727 00:39:30.019 --> 00:39:33.280 The NFL and just coming off retirement, when you. 728 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.039 Remove him from a game, what does that usually do 729 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.340 for an opposing offense? 730 00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:43.139 It helps. It's not necessarily something where I guess the 731 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.610 Rams were expecting to have Aaron Donald all season. But 732 00:39:46.750 --> 00:39:48.829 it's a lot to deal with, as many people have 733 00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:52.550 talked about, especially if you're throwing Aaron Donald and Myles 734 00:39:52.610 --> 00:39:54.090 Garrett on the same side. 735 00:39:53.909 --> 00:39:54.840 Of the line of scrimmage. 736 00:39:55.780 --> 00:39:59.000 And to go along with the other talented pass rushers 737 00:39:59.019 --> 00:40:01.239 that the Rams already have on their roster and Kobe 738 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.889 Turner and Byron Young is a situation where Myles Garrett 739 00:40:06.010 --> 00:40:08.679 is a guy throughout his career at Cleveland that he's 740 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.340 getting the extra attention from opposing offensive lines, getting double teams, 741 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:16.519 getting chips. That's probably still going to be the case, 742 00:40:17.019 --> 00:40:18.900 but it's a lot harder to do that against this 743 00:40:18.940 --> 00:40:22.760 Rams defensive front with all the options they have. And 744 00:40:22.909 --> 00:40:25.210 he's probably, the other guys. 745 00:40:24.969 --> 00:40:26.389 Are going to get more one-on-ones. 746 00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:31.329 And just removing Aaron Donald from that sort of helps 747 00:40:31.769 --> 00:40:34.389 the 49ers case, allow them to put more attention to 748 00:40:34.429 --> 00:40:35.769 guys like Myles Garrett and Kobe Turner. 749 00:40:38.170 --> 00:40:39.989 Are you a big believer in the Rams? 750 00:40:40.030 --> 00:40:43.309 They are the odds-on Super Bowl favorite in most books, 751 00:40:43.730 -->

00:40:48.179 and obviously the headlining names give you reason to believe 752 00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:50.659 that they should, if healthy, be able to handle a 753 00:40:50.699 --> 00:40:54.940 lot of challenges that they might face this year. Personally, 754 00:40:55.059 --> 00:40:56.730 are you as high on the Rams as other people are? 755 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.440 Yeah, I mean, I think they should be the Super 756 00:41:00.460 --> 00:41:05.699 Bowl favorites. It's difficult to kind of look at them, 757 00:41:05.739 --> 00:41:08.340 whatever their odds are, plus 500, plus 600, and being 758 00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:13.139 that heavy of favorites, it's hard to go into any 759 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.000 football season with any team and just be like, they're 760 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:19.349 going to win the Super Bowl. And actually, their offense, 761 00:41:19.670 --> 00:41:23.269 there is some more fragility than there is with a 762 00:41:23.289 --> 00:41:27.650 lot of teams, just given Stafford's age. given some of 763 00:41:27.670 --> 00:41:30.449 the questions they have at tackle. Devontae Adams has had 764 00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:33.789 a history of lower body injuries. If Stafford or Adams 765 00:41:33.889 --> 00:41:36.230 or one of these core pieces on offense goes down, 766 00:41:37.269 --> 00:41:38.969 you can say that for every team, but I think 767 00:41:39.010 --> 00:41:42.980 it's probably more likely for the Rams. Then that's a 768 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:44.800 cause for concern. But if you just look at their 769 00:41:44.820 --> 00:41:47.920 roster on paper, the defense was strong until they got 770 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.139 into the playoffs last year, and a lot of their 771 00:41:50.179 --> 00:41:52.900 issues were at corner. And they go out and address that, 772 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.469 trading for Trent McDuffie, bringing in Jalen Watson from the Chiefs. 773 00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.519 not to mention the defensive line additions. I think it's 774 00:41:58.539 --> 00:42:00.989 hard to see a scenario where their defense isn't really good, 775 00:42:01.630 --> 00:42:04.389 and their offense was one of the most efficient offenses 776 00:42:04.429 --> 00:42:06.829 we've seen in recent years, particularly in the run game. 777 00:42:07.869 --> 00:42:10.329 Super successful running the ball. Then they were able to 778 00:42:10.369 --> 00:42:13.050 hit explosives out of heavier personnel in the pass game. 779 00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:16.590 So I think they should be the favorites. It's just 780 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:19.300 tough to say. This team is definitely going to win 781 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:20.900 the Super Bowl going into the year. 782 00:42:21.780 --> 00:42:25.599 Besides the Rams, who are you watching– closest who has 783 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.460 your attention most whether it's because of the numbers or 784 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.059 anything else who are you keeping an eye on this 785 00:42:31.139 -->

00:42:33.739 upcoming NFL season that just kicked off last. 786 00:42:33.610 --> 00:42:38.869 Night I think in the AFC it's it's the bills 787 00:42:38.909 --> 00:42:42.170 have kind of gone under discussed um with a lot 788 00:42:42.190 --> 00:42:46.340 of these teams they've been a top four or five 789 00:42:46.420 --> 00:42:49.619 offense in the league basically since Josh Allen kind of 790 00:42:49.659 --> 00:42:55.139 ascended around 2018. They have a good offensive line. They 791 00:42:55.179 --> 00:42:57.619 have a good running game. Allen's one of the better 792 00:42:57.659 --> 00:43:00.639 quarterbacks in the league. Their big issue last season, particularly 793 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.579 against defenses that wanted to play man coverage against them, 794 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.500 was they just didn't have the receivers to consistently beat 795 00:43:07.539 --> 00:43:11.139 man coverage. One of their better options was Dalton Kincaid 796 00:43:11.179 --> 00:43:13.750 who missed the a lot of time last year with injury. 797 00:43:13.769 --> 00:43:16.489 They go out and bring in DJ Moore, and DJ 798 00:43:16.510 --> 00:43:20.469 Moore isn't an elite alpha wide receiver, but he is 799 00:43:20.550 --> 00:43:24.139 better than the options they had last year on the 800 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.460 outside as a guy who can beat man coverage. And 801 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.050 then Jim Leonard coming in as defensive coordinator. I think 802 00:43:30.070 --> 00:43:31.909 there's a chance that with some of the stuff he 803 00:43:31.929 --> 00:43:36.329 can do up front from a pressure, a stunting perspective, 804 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.949 can give a little bit more life to their defense. 805 00:43:38.969 --> 00:43:41.889 So I think on the AFC, the Bills are interesting. 806 00:43:41.929 --> 00:43:45.230 And the other team in the NFC is the Lions. 807 00:43:46.289 --> 00:43:48.929 And they have injury question marks on defense. But I 808 00:43:49.510 --> 00:43:53.900 think the Lions are a team, really favorable schedule. A 809 00:43:53.929 --> 00:43:56.219 lot of their games are indoor, good weather, which is 810 00:43:56.280 --> 00:44:00.639 good for Jared Goff, who's struggled outside in cold weather 811 00:44:00.659 --> 00:44:03.840 to potentially get a high seed. And they just have 812 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:05.960 one of the offenses in the league I'm most comfortable 813 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.340 in with their skill position group. 814 00:44:08.179 --> 00:44:08.500 Some of the. 815 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:13.019 Continuity they have with golf and those guys together. And 816 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.869 then defensively, Kirby Joseph, Brian Branch, big injuries. But you 817 00:44:17.909 --> 00:44:19.889 do get a Lee McNeil back on the defensive line. 818 00:44:20.429 --> 00:44:23.670 It sounds like Joseph and Branch will come back some 819 00:44:23.730 --> 00:44:26.969 point early to midseason. And that's a team that could

820 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.619 get some momentum going in late. 821 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:28.699 In the year. 822 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.500 We started the show today talking about, I was ranting 823 00:44:33.539 --> 00:44:36.599 about how, you know, with quarterback play in particular, good 824 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:38.920 is the enemy of great. When you have a good 825 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.400 quarterback that can't quite get you over the hump, but 826 00:44:41.420 --> 00:44:43.239 he's not bad enough that you're ready to move on 827 00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:46.170 from him or whatever else, that can be the nightmare scenario, 828 00:44:46.230 --> 00:44:47.929 in my opinion, for some NFL teams. 829 00:44:48.670 --> 00:44:49.869 Where is that line, though? 830 00:44:49.889 --> 00:44:53.170 Where is the Mason Dixon line of, you know, this 831 00:44:53.230 --> 00:44:54.809 guy can win you a Super Bowl? Do you need 832 00:44:54.849 --> 00:44:58.039 a top five quarterback player? Do you need a top 833 00:44:58.099 --> 00:45:02.039 ten quarterback from a numbers perspective or otherwise? What is 834 00:45:02.059 --> 00:45:05.860 the difference between good and great when we're talking about 835 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:07.340 NFL quarterbacks specifically? 836 00:45:09.099 --> 00:45:11.260 I think we've seen that line shift a little bit 837 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:16.269 the last couple of years. With Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia, 838 00:45:16.429 --> 00:45:19.550 with Sam Darnold in Seattle last year, I think if 839 00:45:19.610 --> 00:45:24.369 you have even a top half of the league quarterback, 840 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.659 You might not be in the conversation every year like 841 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.539 you are with a top-five quarterback, but with a strong 842 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:37.050 supporting cast, strong play calling, a great defense like we 843 00:45:37.110 --> 00:45:39.730 saw on those Eagles teams, the Seahawks team last year, 844 00:45:41.050 --> 00:45:44.239 you can win a Super Bowl with a quarterback who's 845 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:50.329 in the 10 to 16 range consistently. It puts more 846 00:45:50.429 --> 00:45:54.369 pressure on your roster building around them to have elite 847 00:45:54.389 --> 00:45:58.719 talent in other places and keep it under the salary 848 00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:01.980 cap than it does if you have a Josh Allen, 849 00:46:02.019 --> 00:46:04.400 Patrick Mahomes type of quarterback. 850 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.239 Ben, appreciate your time and your perspective. Appreciate all you 851 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.260 guys do over at Sumer Sports. It's become one of 852 00:46:11.300 --> 00:46:14.650 our favorite resources here. So thanks for joining us today. 853 00:46:15.909 --> 00:46:16.309 Appreciate it. 854 00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:25.630 Ben Lindsey, at Ben, L-I-N-S-E-Y underscore. Ben Lindsey, senior content 855 00:46:25.670 --> 00:46:29.710 researcher over there at Sumer Sports. And whether it's for fantasy, 856 00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:34.010 whether it's for gambling purposes, or just entertainment and information, 857 00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:37.690 you really should be leaning on Sumer Sports a little bit. 858 00:46:37.710 --> 00:46:40.949 They pick the game apart from a numbers perspective and 859 00:46:40.969 --> 00:46:44.389 then tell you what those numbers should mean on game day. 860 00:46:44.469 --> 00:46:45.869 Really, really great stuff from Ben. 861 00:46:46.329 --> 00:46:49.690 Thursday night football preview here on the Sean O'Connell Show. 862 00:46:49.710 --> 00:46:53.550 We'll have those for Sunday previews, obviously, NFL slate. We'll 863 00:46:53.570 --> 00:46:56.559 have them for Monday night football as we take a 864 00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:02.019 look at the pro football world. Niners, Rams tonight in Melbourne, 6.30 865 00:47:02.019 --> 00:47:07.119 kickoff on Netflix. We're down here at Southern Steer Butcher, 866 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.150 1705 North Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. 867 00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:13.449 It's the neighborhood butcher with the modern twist. 868 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:18.329 And part of that modern twist is incredible technology that 869 00:47:18.409 --> 00:47:26.280 is infusing your meats with moisture, flavor, and tenderness. Come 870 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.559 down and see us today. Free samples are out. It's 871 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.119 the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700, 92.1 FM. 872 00:47:40.050 --> 00:47:43.190 You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch 873 00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:45.869 Hyundai Studio of ESPN 792.1 FM. 874 00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:53.909 Sean O'Connell Show coming at you live today from Southern 875 00:47:53.949 --> 00:47:58.449 Steer Butchers, 1705 North Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. 876 00:47:58.489 --> 00:47:59.969 A modern day butchery. 877 00:48:00.750 --> 00:48:02.929 It's like the mom and pop shop that your grandparents 878 00:48:02.989 --> 00:48:05.570 used to go to to get their meats. like maybe 879 00:48:05.590 --> 00:48:07.969 mom and dad used to, but with a modern twist. 880 00:48:08.409 --> 00:48:14.610 Quality meats, chicken, pork, ethically sourced, humanely raised, artisanal stuff 881 00:48:14.690 --> 00:48:18.010 down here. And the brains behind the operation, Dan Gunther, 882 00:48:18.070 --> 00:48:20.070 is kind enough to sit down with us one more time. 883 00:48:20.489 --> 00:48:22.949 This place is bumping here on a Thursday afternoon. 884 00:48:23.130 --> 00:48:28.190 Yeah, everybody's gearing up for tailgate and weekend barbecues, you know, 885 00:48:28.230 --> 00:48:32.289 kind of finish out the summer, diving into football season. 886 00:48:32.889 --> 00:48:34.050 So it gets busy. 887 00:48:34.590 --> 00:48:37.570 How does the traffic flow go? Is it like Thursdays 888 00:48:37.610 --> 00:48:40.530 and Fridays you're a little bit busier? People gear up 889 00:48:40.610 --> 00:48:43.300 on Saturday

for the big Sunday dinner, the family dinner. 890 00:48:43.380 --> 00:48:44.960 When is the busiest time down here? 891 00:48:45.019 --> 00:48:49.300 Yeah, Friday afternoons it really gets very busy. Saturday morning 892 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.920 is really busy. Saturday is usually busy all throughout the 893 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.659 entire day. Believe it or not, Sundays is one of 894 00:48:55.699 --> 00:49:00.110 our busiest days too. When we first opened up about 895 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.710 six weeks ago, we were concerned that Sundays would be 896 00:49:02.730 --> 00:49:03.309 a little slower. 897 00:49:03.769 --> 00:49:03.989 Sure. 898 00:49:04.030 --> 00:49:07.880 Especially here in Utah County, right? But no, it's been great. 899 00:49:07.940 --> 00:49:11.639 People come in, you know, they're buying their briskets late 900 00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.929 Saturday afternoon so that they have something for Sunday family dinner. 901 00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:19.280 Sundays is a great day now that football season started. 902 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:24.900 That's right. Football season is back. Niners versus Rams on 903 00:49:24.980 --> 00:49:28.730 Netflix tonight. A full slate this weekend. Obviously, college football 904 00:49:28.789 --> 00:49:32.760 back as well. Dan, you see me, I'm turned toward 905 00:49:32.780 --> 00:49:35.380 the front door because if I look back at that 906 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.159 butcher case and I see all of those mouth-watering meats, 907 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.969 my mouth literally waters, especially I got my eye on 908 00:49:41.010 --> 00:49:45.469 the dino ribs and the armadillo eggs. I'm leaving today 909 00:49:45.650 --> 00:49:47.429 with some of that stuff in my backpack. 910 00:49:47.550 --> 00:49:47.969 Of course. 911 00:49:48.329 --> 00:49:51.050 Yeah, no worries. We'll hook you up for sure, O.C. 912 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.480 Tell people what the armadillo eggs are. 913 00:49:53.579 --> 00:49:57.559 Yeah, it's a really cool concept. Basically, it's a jalapeno popper. 914 00:49:57.619 --> 00:50:01.119 So the whole jalapeno stuffed with cream cheese wrapped in 915 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.000 like an egg-shaped sausage and then surrounded by bacon. 916 00:50:06.019 --> 00:50:06.480 Oh, my gosh. 917 00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:09.659 You throw that in the smoker. Oh, my gosh. You 918 00:50:09.969 --> 00:50:13.250 put it at about 400 degrees for about 12 minutes 919 00:50:13.809 --> 00:50:17.289 and crisp up that bacon. And when you cut into 920 00:50:17.349 --> 00:50:21.110 it and the cream cheese oozes out and the jalapeno, oh, boy, 921 00:50:21.150 --> 00:50:22.739 it's It's amazing stuff. 922 00:50:22.900 --> 00:50:24.400 This is a family show. 923 00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:28.150 That's getting borderline dirty with how good that stuff sounds. Also, 924 00:50:28.510 --> 00:50:30.809 if you're looking for a little surf and turf, I 925 00:50:30.849 --> 00:50:33.150 realized over here in the

coolers behind me, you've got 926 00:50:33.190 --> 00:50:34.110 some seafood, too. 927 00:50:34.309 --> 00:50:34.690 We do. 928 00:50:34.809 --> 00:50:39.690 Yeah, we do have lobster, salmon, cod. You talked about 929 00:50:39.750 --> 00:50:42.929 exotics earlier. You can come in and get wild boar. 930 00:50:42.989 --> 00:50:48.460 You can get your bison and venison. We don't have 931 00:50:48.500 --> 00:50:52.670 it fresh because it doesn't sell fresh. frequently but you 932 00:50:52.690 --> 00:50:54.730 know if you're looking for something a little different you 933 00:50:54.750 --> 00:50:57.550 got a recipe you want to try something new then 934 00:50:57.789 --> 00:50:58.289 we'll have it. 935 00:50:58.469 --> 00:51:00.780 And you will dry age steaks for people also right 936 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:02.980 if i come in and i buy some cuts and 937 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.519 i'm like i want to come back and get these 938 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.260 after you dry age them a little bit you got 939 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:07.099 the locker right here. 940 00:51:07.219 --> 00:51:10.539 Yeah exactly it's it's basically just for that right people 941 00:51:10.579 --> 00:51:13.420 who haven't really tried dry aged meats you'd be amazed 942 00:51:13.500 --> 00:51:15.800 i kind of the way i describe it it's like 943 00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:19.019 You know, going from watching black and white TV from 944 00:51:19.059 --> 00:51:21.280 when I was a kid to then all of a 945 00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:24.670 sudden you get this color TV. It's like, whoa, the 946 00:51:24.750 --> 00:51:27.730 flavor of your meat after it's been dry aged is 947 00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:31.429 is accentuated. And so, yeah, come in and, you know, 948 00:51:31.449 --> 00:51:34.090 get a bone in ribeye roast and, you know, we'll 949 00:51:34.190 --> 00:51:36.510 tag it with your name and we'll put it in 950 00:51:36.550 --> 00:51:40.800 the dry ager for 28, 30 days and. You know, 951 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:41.579 it'll be amazing. 952 00:51:41.699 --> 00:51:45.340 When you go to these, like, five-star steak restaurants downtown 953 00:51:45.409 --> 00:51:47.750 or down in Vegas or whatever, that's what they're feeding you, 954 00:51:48.190 --> 00:51:50.130 and obviously they're charging you the premium for it. You 955 00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:52.110 could do that at home now because of what Southern 956 00:51:52.130 --> 00:51:52.690 Steer offers. 957 00:51:52.909 --> 00:51:55.710 That's exactly right. Yeah, you know, as a matter of fact, 958 00:51:55.730 --> 00:51:59.750 a lot of our meat comes from a particular source 959 00:51:59.989 --> 00:52:04.690 that typically has only provided their beef cattle to high-end 960 00:52:04.730 --> 00:52:09.380 restaurants like a Christopher's or a Morton's. and they haven't 961 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.420 actually made it available to the public because these high-end 962 00:52:12.460 --> 00:52:15.980 restaurants are kind of monopolizing that. But

you now can 963 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.400 come into Southern Steer and get the same cut of 964 00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.369 beef that you would be served at the restaurant and 965 00:52:21.510 --> 00:52:23.170 take it home and cook it the way you want 966 00:52:23.210 --> 00:52:24.369 it for half the price. 967 00:52:25.469 --> 00:52:27.190 If that doesn't convince you, I don't know what will. 968 00:52:27.230 --> 00:52:30.030 I'm doing my best here, but if you're not mouth-watering 969 00:52:30.070 --> 00:52:32.110 here and all this stuff, you just don't love food 970 00:52:32.130 --> 00:52:34.960 the way I do. Come down to 1705 North Redwood 971 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:36.800 Road in Saratoga Springs. 972 00:52:37.250 --> 00:52:39.369 Talk to Dan. Talk to Aubrey. Talk to the crew. 973 00:52:39.409 --> 00:52:40.230 They will hook you up. 974 00:52:40.269 --> 00:52:43.000 They will get you situated for your weekend barbecue, your 975 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.199 family dinner, for the whole week full of dinners. 976 00:52:46.579 --> 00:52:48.320 And it really is a one-stop shop. You don't need 977 00:52:48.340 --> 00:52:50.639 to go anywhere else. Thanks for having us out here. 978 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.440 You bet, OC. It's been a pleasure. 979 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:53.139 All right. 980 00:52:53.179 --> 00:52:55.150 We got Eric Weddle coming on here in just a 981 00:52:55.179 --> 00:52:59.010 couple of minutes. Right now, I've got to remind you also, 982 00:52:59.170 --> 00:53:01.369 if you're having that barbecue, you're having that tailgate party, 983 00:53:01.869 --> 00:53:02.550 you need drinks. 984 00:53:02.769 --> 00:53:03.090 All right? 985 00:53:03.250 --> 00:53:06.750 Smith's right now has incredible deals today. All up and 986 00:53:06.769 --> 00:53:09.110 down the Wasatch Front, you know there's multiple locations. You 987 00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:11.110 have a Smith's in your neighborhood. You probably have the 988 00:53:11.250 --> 00:53:12.130 app on your phone. 989 00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:14.130 Use that. Use the digital coupons. 990 00:53:14.590 --> 00:53:17.960 Right now, mix and match drinks. Buy three, get three free. 991 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:22.019 That is on six packs of Coke, seven up. That's 992 00:53:22.059 --> 00:53:27.760 also on Pepsi products, the essential water, the Perrier sparkling water, Gatorades, Propel, 993 00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:31.179 Spindrift sparkling water, Monster Energy drink. 994 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:34.530 It is a mix and match. So get the healthy stuff. 995 00:53:34.570 --> 00:53:35.469 Get the sugary stuff. 996 00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.159 Get the Diet Coke that you and your wife are 997 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.559 drinking more than anything else. Get it at your local Smith's. 998 00:53:41.739 --> 00:53:44.739 Right now, buy three, get three free. Tell them OC 999 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:48.179 sent you. Get ready for your weekend with that barbecue. 1000 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.300

Have your friends over. You'll have the Southern Steer meats 1001 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.099 on the grill. You'll have the Smith's beverages in the cooler. 1002 00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:59.849 And everybody is happy. The Utah football legend, the head 1003 00:53:59.889 --> 00:54:01.690 coach of the Rancho Bernardo Broncos. 1004 00:54:01.730 --> 00:54:04.030 Joins us next on the Sean O'Connell Show. It's ESPN 700, 1005 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:04.210 92 on FM. 1006 00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:11.460 This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of the 1007 00:54:11.539 --> 00:54:14.800 best inside of your units. Let's get back to OC 1008 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:20.360 from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 792.1 FM. 1009 00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.519 We are not at the Broadway studios today on the 1010 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:28.300 Sean O'Connell Show. We are at Southern Steer Butcher in 1011 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.300 Saratoga Springs, 1705 North Redwood Road. 1012 00:54:31.380 --> 00:54:34.280 Even if you're downtown right now, it is worth the trip. 1013 00:54:34.820 --> 00:54:37.889 Incredible meats, incredible discounts, and they are hooking up everyone 1014 00:54:38.269 --> 00:54:39.869 who mentions the Sean O'Connell Show. 1015 00:54:40.309 --> 00:54:40.809 How about this? 1016 00:54:40.829 --> 00:54:43.789 A sampler combo, 75 bucks will get you a couple 1017 00:54:43.849 --> 00:54:46.889 pounds of ground beef, three pounds of marinated chicken, two 1018 00:54:46.929 --> 00:54:50.840 pounds of handmade sausage, and two pounds of marinated steak tips. 1019 00:54:50.900 --> 00:54:54.619 And those marinated steak tips are tender, juicy, delicious. 1020 00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:55.980 You can't screw them up. 1021 00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:58.239 Throw them in the air fryer, throw them on the grill, 1022 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.409 cook them however you want, and they're going to be delightful. 1023 00:55:02.110 --> 00:55:03.510 Going to have to leave here with some of those. 1024 00:55:03.570 --> 00:55:06.519 And maybe I'll have an opportunity to share some this 1025 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:07.880 weekend with our next guest. 1026 00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.059 It's Weddle Week. He's going into the Ring of Honor. 1027 00:55:11.619 --> 00:55:15.000 He is the Utah football legend, the, I believe, future 1028 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.099 NFL Hall of Famer. He is the head coach of 1029 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:20.250 the Rancho Bernardo Broncos. He's our guy, Eric Weddle. 1030 00:55:20.829 --> 00:55:21.530 E-Dub, what's up? 1031 00:55:22.739 --> 00:55:25.559 What's going on, man? Do they ship out of the state? 1032 00:55:25.699 --> 00:55:29.139 Because I need to order some of that meat. You know, 1033 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.440 you can't have enough meat in the household. 1034 00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:32.260 You know what? 1035 00:55:32.590 --> 00:55:35.780 They'll ship to Eric Weddle. Big Utah fans down here. 1036 00:55:37.289 --> 00:55:42.789 You can make

requests that the mere mortals among us cannot. 1037 00:55:42.829 --> 00:55:44.550 Look, it's good luck. It's good luck. 1038 00:55:44.670 --> 00:55:48.969 I always start the conversation we have with a little 1039 00:55:49.010 --> 00:55:52.820 question about your Rancho Bernardo Broncos head coach of the team, 1040 00:55:52.900 --> 00:55:57.360 obviously your son playing for the team, and big win 1041 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.219 over Torrey Pines. First win on the road at Torrey 1042 00:56:00.449 --> 00:56:01.280 since 2008, is that right? 1043 00:56:02.909 --> 00:56:08.510 That is correct. Man, just talk about a gritty, tough... 1044 00:56:08.630 --> 00:56:11.730 I mean, Torrey Pines historically is one of the better 1045 00:56:11.769 --> 00:56:15.949 programs in San Diego and always a tough team to 1046 00:56:15.989 --> 00:56:18.909 go against. I mean, the stats show it, right? We 1047 00:56:18.949 --> 00:56:23.820 had one there... in a long time. So, the boys 1048 00:56:23.860 --> 00:56:29.099 played hard. I mean, outside of a couple misfortune plays, right? Like, 1049 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.420 I don't like to blame the rest, but man, there 1050 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:35.679 were like five calls in that game that were either 1051 00:56:35.739 --> 00:56:39.119 missed calls or not that could have swayed and made 1052 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:41.139 it not such a close game where we had to 1053 00:56:41.820 --> 00:56:44.619 score 21 points in the second half on three possessions. 1054 00:56:44.659 --> 00:56:47.719 We had five total possessions in the game for like 1055 00:56:49.420 --> 00:56:51.940 It's just crazy how we get into these games four 1056 00:56:52.019 --> 00:56:54.559 drives of 15 plays or more. That's the type of 1057 00:56:54.579 --> 00:56:58.500 game it was. So really proud. We didn't waver. We 1058 00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:01.699 stayed connected. And won at the end, man. It was 1059 00:57:01.820 --> 00:57:02.570 a thrilling game. 1060 00:57:03.969 --> 00:57:07.849 And this week it's a Utah team. Westlake taking the 1061 00:57:07.889 --> 00:57:11.079 trip down there to sunny San Diego. That will be, 1062 00:57:11.110 --> 00:57:13.429 of course, Friday night. And then on Saturday you're coming 1063 00:57:13.469 --> 00:57:16.550 here to the Utah game. What's the scouting report on Westlake? 1064 00:57:16.570 --> 00:57:16.780 They're 3-1. 1065 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:22.139 Yeah, Westlake, really good program. They play tough, play hard. 1066 00:57:23.900 --> 00:57:28.760 Got some talented dudes. The receiver is, I believe, a 1067 00:57:29.139 --> 00:57:32.900 Utah State commit, number 13. And then they have a 1068 00:57:32.940 --> 00:57:38.440 D lineman, number eight. That's one of the best, probably 1069 00:57:38.460 --> 00:57:42.650 the best player we see defensively. And we have to 1070 00:57:42.710 --> 00:57:47.039 have a plan for him every snap. and know where 1071 00:57:47.059 --> 00:57:50.110 he's at and can't let him ruin

the game, which 1072 00:57:50.150 --> 00:57:54.050 he can on any play. So I'm excited for the 1073 00:57:54.090 --> 00:57:56.449 challenge and the matchup. I think our boys are. I 1074 00:57:56.489 --> 00:58:00.869 think they understand what the mindset that needs to be taken. 1075 00:58:00.929 --> 00:58:04.110 Like this team's coming down here out of state, so 1076 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:06.980 want to take it to us, and we have to 1077 00:58:07.019 --> 00:58:11.539 defend our home crowd, home state, and take it to them. 1078 00:58:13.219 --> 00:58:15.179 All right, talking a little Utah football now. 1079 00:58:15.380 --> 00:58:18.820 You're coming into town for no big deal, just, you know, 1080 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.519 immortalization on the side of Rice-Eccles Stadium. 1081 00:58:21.780 --> 00:58:22.940 It's Eric Weddle Week. 1082 00:58:23.380 --> 00:58:25.440 You're being inducted into the Ring of Honor. And we 1083 00:58:25.460 --> 00:58:28.260 talked to you about this when it was announced that 1084 00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.940 it would be happening. Now that the reality of it 1085 00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:33.239 is here, it's happening in just a couple of days. 1086 00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:36.030 Has it changed the way you're thinking about it, your process? 1087 00:58:36.780 --> 00:58:38.159 You know, just tell me what it means. 1088 00:58:37.969 --> 00:58:38.449 To you again. 1089 00:58:38.469 --> 00:58:44.610 Yeah, I think now that it's, here I'm probably most 1090 00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:50.010 excited about is to just see the fans and and 1091 00:58:50.110 --> 00:58:53.070 I know I'm going around like early to different tailgates 1092 00:58:53.429 --> 00:58:58.150 and going in different uh parts of the stadium throughout 1093 00:58:58.190 --> 00:59:01.210 the first quarter to say hello and hang out with 1094 00:59:01.230 --> 00:59:05.469 fans I mean really like sharing the experience like I said, 1095 00:59:05.489 --> 00:59:08.559 sharing it with everyone that had a hand in it 1096 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:14.780 or supported me to try to let them be involved 1097 00:59:14.820 --> 00:59:16.820 in it. So I think that's what I'm most excited for, 1098 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.460 is to see old teammates. I know I got a 1099 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:21.610 few texts from old teammates that are coming in to 1100 00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:26.449 reminisce and be there. So it's just going to be awesome. Like, 1101 00:59:26.510 --> 00:59:30.869 I don't get too emotional about, about things, I'm sure 1102 00:59:30.889 --> 00:59:32.659 I may get a little emotional about it. 1103 00:59:32.769 --> 00:59:33.630 Maybe no one. 1104 00:59:33.610 --> 00:59:38.190 Would really recognize it because I'm a cold-faced type of guy. 1105 00:59:38.210 --> 00:59:45.409 But like you said, this is like one in a million, right, 1106 00:59:45.510 --> 00:59:48.989 to be able to be in this situation. And I 1107 00:59:49.030 --> 00:59:51.360 don't take it for granted and really humbled by it all. 1108 00:59:51.389 --> 00:59:53.079 I'm just going to take it all in and enjoy 1109 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:53.829 every second of it. 1110 00:59:55.460 --> 00:59:58.159 What did you like most? from your Utes in the 1111 00:59:58.320 --> 00:59:58.960 Idaho game. 1112 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.579 Obviously, it went kind of the way that we expected 1113 01:00:01.659 --> 01:00:04.920 it to, that we thought it should. You know, big demolition. 1114 01:00:04.980 --> 01:00:07.820 You scored a bunch of points. You held them under 1115 01:00:07.860 --> 01:00:09.679 three scores. I would have liked to see that, maybe 1116 01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.670 even more dominant performance defensively. But what did you like 1117 01:00:13.170 --> 01:00:15.070 from Utah in week one against Idaho? 1118 01:00:17.989 --> 01:00:20.449 Yeah, I mean, you know, we talked about it last week. 1119 01:00:21.309 --> 01:00:23.510 I wanted to see, like, clean operation. I didn't want 1120 01:00:23.550 --> 01:00:28.460 to see pre-snap penalties. Obviously, there'll be physical errors and 1121 01:00:28.500 --> 01:00:31.000 mistakes just because it's live action going against someone that 1122 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:34.239 you don't know. So that's going to happen. But, man, 1123 01:00:34.659 --> 01:00:37.460 it was just an exciting brand of football. And I 1124 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.400 liked how Idaho fought back for a little bit and 1125 01:00:41.460 --> 01:00:45.760 really threw some punches back. It wasn't just a total 1126 01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:52.050 rollover like some games can be in that situation. And 1127 01:00:52.090 --> 01:00:54.369 going against that offensive line for Idaho, I think they 1128 01:00:54.409 --> 01:00:57.840 were all– Returning starters are older guys that had a 1129 01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.389 lot of game experience, so it was good for us 1130 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:03.630 to get our feet wet against that group on the 1131 01:01:03.670 --> 01:01:09.750 defensive line. And I just think we got a chance. Obviously, 1132 01:01:09.769 --> 01:01:12.309 a big game against Arkansas, but I think we showed 1133 01:01:12.349 --> 01:01:17.909 our potential with the running game. Weishan is just so 1134 01:01:17.989 --> 01:01:22.869 fun to watch. His physicality, his twitchiness, his one-cut ability. Obviously, 1135 01:01:22.889 --> 01:01:26.460 the receiving out of the backfields, and our perimeter guys. 1136 01:01:27.340 --> 01:01:29.079 Being able to just throw it up and our guy 1137 01:01:29.139 --> 01:01:32.639 come down with the ball and win those one-on-one type 1138 01:01:32.780 --> 01:01:36.440 contests is something that I think is pivotal to have 1139 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.960 a great offense and to make some waves down the 1140 01:01:40.980 --> 01:01:42.179 stretch against good teams. 1141 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.119 You, as much as anyone, maybe more than a lot 1142 01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:48.409 of people, you

have been a big fan of Bert 1143 01:01:48.469 --> 01:01:51.309 Ficklin and his potential, and we saw good things from 1144 01:01:51.349 --> 01:01:53.550 him in game one, and He had at least one 1145 01:01:53.590 --> 01:01:56.269 throw go viral because he's rolling right and he flips 1146 01:01:56.289 --> 01:01:59.130 his hips and he throws a dot and all that stuff. 1147 01:01:59.989 --> 01:02:02.329 I bring it up because they have found this nice 1148 01:02:02.389 --> 01:02:06.250 harmony with him and Devin Dampier, but they're both playmakers 1149 01:02:06.409 --> 01:02:08.489 and you've got to get both of those guys opportunities 1150 01:02:08.550 --> 01:02:11.360 as often as you can in a game. How do 1151 01:02:11.380 --> 01:02:12.969 you manage it moving forward? How do you manage it 1152 01:02:13.090 --> 01:02:15.760 in obviously a much tougher test against Arkansas? How do 1153 01:02:15.780 --> 01:02:17.500 you get the most out of Bird, not just Devin? 1154 01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:22.750 Yeah, I mean, I think I think the package of plays, 1155 01:02:23.429 --> 01:02:26.969 whether it's him running the ball, whether it's him, you know, 1156 01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:31.289 Devin motioning out, and now he's playing true quarterback, not 1157 01:02:31.469 --> 01:02:35.750 overdoing it and you're forcing the issue, but also allowing 1158 01:02:37.670 --> 01:02:41.590 the chance to make plays for the offense with Bird. 1159 01:02:41.650 --> 01:02:44.849 So I don't– I like that he's getting in there. 1160 01:02:44.929 --> 01:02:47.190 I just don't want it to get too much where 1161 01:02:47.210 --> 01:02:52.139 you're affecting the rhythm of Devin in the offense. of 1162 01:02:52.179 --> 01:02:55.719 being successful series and series. So I think they manage 1163 01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:57.880 it well. I just don't want it to be, like 1164 01:02:57.940 --> 01:03:00.389 I said, don't want to be too much on the 1165 01:03:00.449 --> 01:03:02.849 offense because as a quarterback, you like to be in rhythm. 1166 01:03:02.869 --> 01:03:05.309 You like to be in those situations. You like to 1167 01:03:05.449 --> 01:03:07.329 see it. You like to learn from it from series 1168 01:03:07.389 --> 01:03:09.989 and series. So as long as they manage that, I 1169 01:03:10.030 --> 01:03:12.230 think it'll be fine. And the more we can get 1170 01:03:12.250 --> 01:03:14.590 him experience for when he takes over, it'll be great. 1171 01:03:16.170 --> 01:03:18.389 Eric Weddle is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show. 1172 01:03:18.409 --> 01:03:20.989 It is Weddle Week. He's going into the Utah Ring 1173 01:03:21.030 --> 01:03:24.250 of Honor this weekend. It's a late kickoff. It's a 1174 01:03:24.269 --> 01:03:25.110 true night game. 1175 01:03:25.769 --> 01:03:29.530 Arkansas is only the second SEC team to come to Rice-Eccles. Obviously, 1176 01:03:29.550 --> 01:03:32.269 Florida did it a couple of weeks ago, or a 1177 01:03:32.289 --> 01:03:35.349 couple of years ago, I should say. I've been, like, 1178 01:03:35.489 --> 01:03:38.050 you know, dipping my toes in the Arkansas waters, Dub. 1179 01:03:38.179 --> 01:03:40.579 I've been, like, what are their podcasts saying? What are 1180 01:03:40.619 --> 01:03:41.579 their alumni saying? 1181 01:03:41.659 --> 01:03:42.800 Oh, my gosh, me too. 1182 01:03:43.059 --> 01:03:44.059 Me too. 1183 01:03:44.099 --> 01:03:45.739 What are they? And, like. 1184 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:48.159 Even what their coach is saying, I think he's a 1185 01:03:48.179 --> 01:03:50.960 good coach, but, like, he's more focused on the kickoff 1186 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.079 time than any other thing that is going on in 1187 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.619 this game. And I'm like, I'm trying not to get 1188 01:03:55.659 --> 01:03:57.550 too gassed up, but I'm like, I don't think Arkansas 1189 01:03:57.590 --> 01:03:59.590 has any idea what they're going to be walking into. 1190 01:03:59.849 --> 01:04:00.849 Are you getting the same sense? 1191 01:04:02.269 --> 01:04:06.489 A thousand percent. It's the typical arrogance of the SEC, 1192 01:04:07.070 --> 01:04:10.670 and coming into, oh, your stadium's only 55,000, and, oh. 1193 01:04:13.269 --> 01:04:16.829 It's not even that big. And, oh, it can't be 1194 01:04:16.869 --> 01:04:19.909 that loud because of the people. Yeah, when you're going 1195 01:04:20.010 --> 01:04:24.159 full start six times tomorrow night, Saturday night, and we 1196 01:04:24.179 --> 01:04:26.659 get after your guys' tails and beat you by 30, 1197 01:04:26.659 --> 01:04:29.800 I'm going to come on the following week and remind 1198 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:35.579 all the podcasts, this ain't your just ho-hum mid-major it 1199 01:04:35.619 --> 01:04:40.780 was 20 years ago. We're coming for heads. Arkansas is 1200 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.099 next on the list. So I've been hearing it over 1201 01:04:43.139 --> 01:04:47.699 and over again just on my timeline, hearing these guys. Obviously, 1202 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:52.559 it's just funny, commentators and podcast people that aren't even 1203 01:04:52.940 --> 01:04:56.969 affiliated with the team, they're just talking heads. Like you played, 1204 01:04:57.210 --> 01:04:59.409 and you played on the Utes, so you understand kind 1205 01:04:59.429 --> 01:05:02.829 of like a night game at Utah, right? These people 1206 01:05:02.889 --> 01:05:05.820 don't understand. You don't come in. to Salt Lake at 1207 01:05:05.860 --> 01:05:07.840 Rice-Eccles in a night game and come away with a win. 1208 01:05:07.889 --> 01:05:12.250 It just doesn't happen. Why don't you ask Caleb Williams 1209 01:05:12.489 --> 01:05:15.489 how those games went when they played night games in Utah? 1210 01:05:15.650 --> 01:05:20.449 They lose. So I can't wait to be a part 1211 01:05:20.469 --> 01:05:26.159 of it, to celebrate in the locker room, fighting the 1212 01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.139 Utah man fight song, and celebrating. 1213 01:05:30.519 -->

01:05:33.659 So Arkansas has got some stuff to figure out, and 1214 01:05:34.789 --> 01:05:38.030 They've got one guy who's a projected potential first-round pick. 1215 01:05:38.070 --> 01:05:41.510 This Quincy Rhodes Jr., 97, playing DN for them, playing 1216 01:05:41.530 --> 01:05:44.769 on their D-line. He's a real problem if he's healthy. Now, 1217 01:05:44.829 --> 01:05:48.110 he didn't play a ton against North Alabama. Maybe they 1218 01:05:48.130 --> 01:05:49.969 were saving him so he'd be more healthy against Utah. 1219 01:05:49.989 --> 01:05:52.429 I think that's what's going on. But let's just assume 1220 01:05:52.469 --> 01:05:56.070 he's 100%. You don't want to, like, overdo it and 1221 01:05:56.570 --> 01:05:59.699 over-index to only worry about one guy on their defense. 1222 01:06:00.139 --> 01:06:02.340 But You also have to pay attention to it. 1223 01:06:02.449 --> 01:06:04.789 Like you're saying, when they've got a game wrecker, a 1224 01:06:04.829 --> 01:06:07.329 potential game wrecker, you've got to pay attention to it. 1225 01:06:07.550 --> 01:06:10.340 And this is an inexperienced offensive line that's working in. 1226 01:06:10.340 --> 01:06:12.920 A lot of new things. How do you handle that? 1227 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.739 How do you handle a potential outlier-type talent on the 1228 01:06:16.780 --> 01:06:18.380 defensive line for Arkansas? 1229 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:25.349 Yeah, I mean, you know, we're kind of going at 1230 01:06:25.429 --> 01:06:31.760 it in a very smaller– example this week, but the 1231 01:06:31.820 --> 01:06:34.159 offensive line, you have to play together, right? You've got 1232 01:06:34.179 --> 01:06:36.949 to have great technique. You don't want to, like, a 1233 01:06:36.989 --> 01:06:40.110 lot of times offensive linemen, I think in general, like, 1234 01:06:41.110 --> 01:06:42.989 when you're going against a really good player on the 1235 01:06:43.030 --> 01:06:44.889 other side that you want to get your hands on 1236 01:06:44.949 --> 01:06:47.690 as quick as possible, and then you want to lunge, 1237 01:06:47.789 --> 01:06:51.849 and instead of just setting square and understanding where your 1238 01:06:51.869 --> 01:06:54.230 help is, right? Are we getting the center to slide 1239 01:06:54.269 --> 01:06:55.800 to you? Are we a full slide? Are we a 1240 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.199 four-man slide? Am I getting the back to chip with you? Like, 1241 01:06:58.820 --> 01:07:01.360 there's so much that the offensive coach can help the 1242 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.860 offensive line when you're going against a premier player that 1243 01:07:05.739 --> 01:07:09.099 it's going to take everyone, but you don't, it's like 1244 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:12.050 Miles Garrett or Aaron Donald or these guys, like you don't, 1245 01:07:12.489 --> 01:07:15.650 you don't want to ever leave them one-on-one, right? Like 1246 01:07:15.690 --> 01:07:18.469 that's just dumb football because they're just that good.

So 1247 01:07:19.030 --> 01:07:22.030 some plays you'll have to like quick game, thirties, fifties, 1248 01:07:22.070 --> 01:07:24.800 where you're getting five out, that quarterback has to make 1249 01:07:24.820 --> 01:07:26.739 the offensive line, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, 1250 01:07:27.349 --> 01:07:30.130 That's on the quarterback. But when we're going six, seven-man protection, 1251 01:07:30.989 --> 01:07:34.869 be smart, do what your coaches do. And I honestly 1252 01:07:34.909 --> 01:07:36.690 think the offensive line are going to play great on 1253 01:07:36.730 --> 01:07:41.130 Saturday night because of the coaches, the strength coaches, the 1254 01:07:41.190 --> 01:07:43.829 strength staff, the work they put in. They're going to 1255 01:07:43.849 --> 01:07:45.650 continue week by week to show what they're all about. 1256 01:07:47.179 --> 01:07:49.949 Have you talked to Morgan this week and been like, hey, 1257 01:07:49.989 --> 01:07:52.340 make sure that you're playing some weddle highlights for the 1258 01:07:52.380 --> 01:07:54.510 guys that are on the team? A lot of these 1259 01:07:54.550 --> 01:07:57.230 guys were born after you played at the University of Utah, 1260 01:07:57.250 --> 01:08:00.150 so they know you from your NFL career. I don't 1261 01:08:00.170 --> 01:08:02.710 know how many of them have seen the highlights. Did 1262 01:08:02.750 --> 01:08:06.820 you tell Morgan, hey, make sure they know whose presence 1263 01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:09.239 they're going to be amongst this weekend? 1264 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.840 Well, you know me as good as anyone, so I 1265 01:08:14.019 --> 01:08:17.470 doubt you would think I would say something like that. 1266 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:22.050 I did talk to him Saturday night. he called me 1267 01:08:22.130 --> 01:08:25.310 just to check in with the game and then some 1268 01:08:25.329 --> 01:08:27.510 other games that were going on. So we chatted for 1269 01:08:27.529 --> 01:08:32.369 a little bit. But this week, like, nothing needs to 1270 01:08:32.430 --> 01:08:34.529 be said. All I care about, and I said this, 1271 01:08:34.609 --> 01:08:37.470 I think I said this last week, I don't care 1272 01:08:37.789 --> 01:08:40.909 if anything is acknowledged about me as long as we 1273 01:08:40.939 --> 01:08:45.420 get this win. I really do not care. These kids, 1274 01:08:46.210 --> 01:08:48.510 Whether they know about me or not is irrelevant in 1275 01:08:48.529 --> 01:08:51.439 the grand scheme of things. Just focus on ball, focus 1276 01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:53.560 on your job, and let's get this done. 1277 01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:57.289 Eric Weddle for a couple more minutes here on the 1278 01:08:57.329 --> 01:08:58.390 Sean O'Connell Show. 1279 01:08:59.529 --> 01:08:59.970 Weddle Week. 1280 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:03.840 Will conclude on Saturday night when he is inducted into 1281 01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:06.779 the Ring of Honor at the Utah versus Arkansas game. 1282 01:09:08.819 --> 01:09:11.140 The biggest story in college football this week was not 1283 01:09:11.260 --> 01:09:14.739 Utah's win over Idaho, even though we stay pretty central here. 1284 01:09:15.529 --> 01:09:18.069 Of course, it was a lot of former Utah guys 1285 01:09:18.829 --> 01:09:21.739 connected now to that University of Michigan team that got 1286 01:09:21.779 --> 01:09:24.579 an extra second on the clock after a crazy replay, 1287 01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:28.140 after a hard-fought game against the Western Michigan team that kind. 1288 01:09:27.979 --> 01:09:28.729 Of took it to them. 1289 01:09:29.430 --> 01:09:31.750 I know you have some thoughts on this scenario, so 1290 01:09:31.810 --> 01:09:34.470 please share them with us on the Sean O'Connell Show. 1291 01:09:36.350 --> 01:09:43.420 Yeah. You know, I couldn't, I didn't start watching the game. We, 1292 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.079 Gage and I, went to the San Diego State game 1293 01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:47.960 to see Steve and his son Stone, who's the backup 1294 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.220 quarterback there, and then Obviously, you know, it's the hometown, 1295 01:09:51.229 --> 01:09:54.199 so I want to support the guys and the players. 1296 01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:59.539 So I didn't start watching the game until about six 1297 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:01.960 minutes left in the game. Gage had been watching it, 1298 01:10:02.060 --> 01:10:06.979 and he's like, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan? Western, yeah, yeah. 1299 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:07.960 Western. 1300 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.960 Yeah. He's like, Western Michigan is going to win. And 1301 01:10:11.020 --> 01:10:14.680 I'm like, no, they're not. Like, they're going to pull 1302 01:10:14.699 --> 01:10:17.560 it out. Like, that's just how it goes. Like, they're 1303 01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:21.529 just figuring it out. And then he's like, Dad, they're 1304 01:10:21.550 --> 01:10:23.970 going to win. Like, they're up. And I'm like, what 1305 01:10:23.989 --> 01:10:27.829 are you talking about? So I started watching it, and 1306 01:10:28.069 --> 01:10:31.880 I'm just getting blown up, whether it's on Twitter, whether 1307 01:10:31.979 --> 01:10:38.119 it's on text messages from coaches, from other schools, this, that, 1308 01:10:38.140 --> 01:10:40.159 and the other. And I don't say that to say 1309 01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:46.460 that I'm right, right? I don't really care about anything 1310 01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:50.970 outside of Utah football, right? And I actually want Michigan 1311 01:10:50.989 --> 01:10:54.210 to win deep down. But I don't, like, I'm not 1312 01:10:54.250 --> 01:10:57.600 watching them. I don't really, like, support them. So when 1313 01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.319 I'm seeing all these messages come in, like, then I 1314 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.119 got to go, what's going on? How are they playing? 1315 01:11:03.180 --> 01:11:07.119 And they're struggling. Long story short, it should be, they 1316

01:11:07.140 --> 01:11:10.979 should be 0-1. Everyone knows it. The voters know it. 1317 01:11:11.739 --> 01:11:18.550 And it's unfortunate that Western Michigan got hosed. somehow some 1318 01:11:18.590 --> 01:11:21.069 way that they're not going to have that win on 1319 01:11:21.090 --> 01:11:23.210 their resume for the rest of the time. Right. Like 1320 01:11:23.710 --> 01:11:25.909 they probably will never be in that situation again to 1321 01:11:25.989 --> 01:11:30.489 beat Michigan, the big brother. Uh, it would be like, 1322 01:11:30.890 --> 01:11:33.090 you know, what Utah state is, I think is, I 1323 01:11:33.130 --> 01:11:35.939 believe it's beat us. Right. Some, somewhere down the future, 1324 01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:39.720 maybe even like Weber state, like imagine Weber state in 1325 01:11:39.779 --> 01:11:42.460 a game against us and they beat us. And so, 1326 01:11:42.539 --> 01:11:44.479 but then we, that wouldn't get taken away. Like that's 1327 01:11:44.539 --> 01:11:47.909 basically what happened. Uh, But they made the play at 1328 01:11:47.949 --> 01:11:53.569 the end, and we'll see. I didn't really watch the 1329 01:11:53.609 --> 01:11:56.449 game other than the last, and I saw what I saw. 1330 01:11:56.470 --> 01:12:00.210 I think they'll be in a rude awakening, Oklahoma coming 1331 01:12:00.229 --> 01:12:04.909 to town, and we'll see what happens. I don't know. 1332 01:12:05.130 --> 01:12:05.590 Don't know. 1333 01:12:05.630 --> 01:12:06.189 Don't care. 1334 01:12:06.210 --> 01:12:08.720 I don't need to say I was right or wrong. 1335 01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.920 It doesn't matter to me. I live my life. I 1336 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:16.829 don't need to profess what I said. four months ago 1337 01:12:16.909 --> 01:12:20.529 was right. It does not matter. Everyone can have their 1338 01:12:20.550 --> 01:12:24.250 own opinion. And, uh, I wish those guys the best. Seriously. Like, 1339 01:12:24.310 --> 01:12:26.850 I don't want to see anyone not play well. I've 1340 01:12:26.899 --> 01:12:30.180 been there and it's tough. We'll see how Underwood, uh, 1341 01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:34.619 responds to the lack of good play and the, the, 1342 01:12:34.699 --> 01:12:37.739 the attention that's on them. And especially coach with basically saying, 1343 01:12:38.380 --> 01:12:40.130 if you don't play better, you're, we're going in a 1344 01:12:40.149 --> 01:12:44.229 different direction. So let's see how he handles it. And, uh, 1345 01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:48.340 Truth be told, I'm hoping that he responds the right 1346 01:12:48.380 --> 01:12:51.399 way for him in his career because if not, he 1347 01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:52.729 won't be playing quarterback anymore. 1348 01:12:53.710 --> 01:12:55.750 Well, you don't have to take the victory lap because 1349 01:12:55.829 --> 01:12:59.909 everyone already said, we're sorry, Eric Weddle, you were right 1350 01:13:00.170 --> 01:13:03.189 about Bryce Underwood. And it was hilarious for the rest

1351 01:13:03.229 --> 01:13:05.869 of us to see because when an average fan who 1352 01:13:05.909 --> 01:13:07.850 doesn't know what they're watching on the same level you 1353 01:13:08.229 --> 01:13:10.149 is trying to argue with something that you said that 1354 01:13:10.170 --> 01:13:14.050 wasn't even hypercritical, it was just like an observation, and 1355 01:13:14.069 --> 01:13:17.810 then obviously– They're all feeling the same way four months later. 1356 01:13:17.930 --> 01:13:19.189 It was pretty hilarious. 1357 01:13:19.430 --> 01:13:21.970 But Eric Weddle knows what he's watching when he's watching 1358 01:13:22.010 --> 01:13:24.079 quarterbacks because that's what he was. 1359 01:13:23.989 --> 01:13:26.520 Trying to defeat for 14 years in the NFL, people. 1360 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.699 With that in mind, and maybe you have the same 1361 01:13:30.739 --> 01:13:33.340 evaluation of Drake May as you do of Bryce Underwood, 1362 01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:36.180 but he had a disastrous start to the NFL season 1363 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:37.380 last night. I don't know how much of it you 1364 01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.779 got to watch because you're coaching and all that stuff. 1365 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:44.060 But three turnovers for Drake May, including a game-deciding interception 1366 01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:46.430 and when they were driving for a potential touchdown or 1367 01:13:46.470 --> 01:13:47.850 at least a field goal to tie. 1368 01:13:48.449 --> 01:13:49.470 What's going on with Drake May? 1369 01:13:51.130 --> 01:13:54.899 Yeah, I mean, I watched, I watched, I think about 1370 01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:57.939 the first quarter and then we had night practice last night. 1371 01:13:57.979 --> 01:14:01.640 So I saw the highlights of how those last few 1372 01:14:01.699 --> 01:14:04.819 series went. And it just goes back to like, even 1373 01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:11.109 the pros do dumb things. And it's, it's just a reality. 1374 01:14:11.149 --> 01:14:14.840 Like it's human nature. You try to limit everything. the 1375 01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:19.100 mistakes that are like, like I just, perfect example, like 1376 01:14:19.140 --> 01:14:21.869 you're looking at the last play, the under 20 seconds. 1377 01:14:22.670 --> 01:14:26.970 It's knowing the situation. It's knowing the play, right? You 1378 01:14:27.010 --> 01:14:30.369 got both tackles cut blocking. So that, as a quarterback 1379 01:14:30.430 --> 01:14:34.279 is saying, it's a rocker step ball out, right? If not, 1380 01:14:34.380 --> 01:14:37.720 then I'm just running, right? Like I understand, like I 1381 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:42.649 have no protection. So for him to backpedal, lean away 1382 01:14:42.789 --> 01:14:45.409 and just throw the ball up is just, that's like 1383 01:14:45.449 --> 01:14:49.340 a fireable offense as a quarterback. And to see that 1384 01:14:49.460 --> 01:14:52.279 from a, a season, like a second year guy, uh, 1385 01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:56.939 it's

just unfortunate because you just can't make that mistake. 1386 01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:01.489 And so the mistakes that happen are all in my 1387 01:15:01.550 --> 01:15:05.350 mind fixable, but when he goes against good teams, this 1388 01:15:05.430 --> 01:15:08.510 has kind of been what happens. And now their, their 1389 01:15:08.550 --> 01:15:11.500 schedule is tough with a lot of good teams. So, 1390 01:15:12.140 --> 01:15:14.199 They'll get it right. He'll figure it out because he 1391 01:15:14.220 --> 01:15:17.239 has the ability and the mind. But to see those 1392 01:15:17.300 --> 01:15:19.960 kind of mistakes late in the game where you know 1393 01:15:19.979 --> 01:15:23.399 they're going over those situations, you know they're stressing in 1394 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:26.460 this situation, how are we going to play? This is 1395 01:15:26.500 --> 01:15:29.970 the call. And to be, like, on the other side 1396 01:15:30.010 --> 01:15:32.590 of it is really unfortunate as a coach because you're 1397 01:15:32.609 --> 01:15:35.850 just like, what the heck are you thinking right now? 1398 01:15:35.949 --> 01:15:39.470 But even pros lose their minds. So it's great, a 1399 01:15:39.529 --> 01:15:42.199 reminder as a coach to, like, gosh, I'm going to 1400 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:46.800 rip Gage's you-know-what for a decision, well, dang, the pros 1401 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:47.920 are doing it just as bad. 1402 01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:49.300 Yeah. 1403 01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:53.020 Yeah, you do see some of that. Not supposed to 1404 01:15:53.060 --> 01:15:54.659 see it as often in the pros, but you do 1405 01:15:54.699 --> 01:15:55.659 get it every now and again. 1406 01:15:55.699 --> 01:15:58.500 No, definitely not. I'm not even going to ask you. 1407 01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.699 About the Rams-Niners game because I don't want you to 1408 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:04.970 say hurtful things when we're celebrating you this week, but 1409 01:16:06.329 --> 01:16:07.949 will you have a chance to even watch it tonight? 1410 01:16:09.109 --> 01:16:10.810 You know what's about to happen tonight. 1411 01:16:12.829 --> 01:16:13.189 I do. 1412 01:16:13.829 --> 01:16:14.090 I do. 1413 01:16:14.750 --> 01:16:17.810 I know what's about to happen. The 49ers are going 1414 01:16:17.829 --> 01:16:20.359 to dominate Miles Garrett. They're going to make him look 1415 01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:21.479 like it's his first year. 1416 01:16:21.500 --> 01:16:25.720 Even you don't believe that. Even you don't believe that 1417 01:16:25.739 --> 01:16:27.699 in the heart of hearts. You don't believe that. Even 1418 01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:30.060 though you're saying it right now, you don't truly believe it. 1419 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:32.930 When we talk about the Utes, we really believe. If 1420 01:16:32.970 --> 01:16:37.329 we had to go play in Ohio State, we would 1421 01:16:37.369 --> 01:16:40.550 think we could go win. But you know... Australia, they 1422 01:16:40.590 --> 01:16:42.550 went four days earlier because they're worried about the time. 1423 01:16:42.569 --> 01:16:44.890 You know what the Rams did? They said, man, we're 1424 01:16:44.909 --> 01:16:47.470 going to fly at 5,000 feet. We're going to sleep in. 1425 01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:49.039 We're going to sleep the whole time. We're going to 1426 01:16:49.060 --> 01:16:50.500 wake up the next day, and we're just going to 1427 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:52.180 go play. And we're just going to go beat your 1428 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.819 faces in. So, you know who's not worried about the 1429 01:16:54.859 --> 01:16:55.460 time change? 1430 01:16:57.180 --> 01:16:57.680 The Rams. 1431 01:16:57.939 --> 01:17:00.600 And you know who is? Arkansas and the Niners. And 1432 01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:02.439 what is both going to happen to them? They're going 1433 01:17:02.470 --> 01:17:04.750 to get their faces drugged in the grass. 1434 01:17:05.020 --> 01:17:07.449 You know what I'm most mad about with this Niners-Rams 1435 01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:10.119 game is the Rams are like, we're not even going 1436 01:17:10.140 --> 01:17:13.359 to bring Aaron Donald. That's how not worried about this 1437 01:17:13.420 --> 01:17:14.479 matchup the Rams are. 1438 01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:16.380 They're like, this is a– Yeah, we don't even need 1439 01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:18.899 a– hey, give them a couple more weeks to get ready. 1440 01:17:18.939 --> 01:17:19.739 We're fine. 1441 01:17:19.779 --> 01:17:23.119 We'll manage these couple weeks. We're not worried about birdies 1442 01:17:23.819 --> 01:17:26.960 and half the guys that are already hurt. Like, we're good. 1443 01:17:26.979 --> 01:17:30.680 That's disrespectful. All right? I hate it. 1444 01:17:30.819 --> 01:17:34.399 Like, if Arkansas was rolling into Salt Lake City– And 1445 01:17:34.420 --> 01:17:36.840 they're like, we're not bringing Quincy Rhodes Jr. He's not 1446 01:17:36.899 --> 01:17:38.619 coming on the trip. And we'll be like, oh, because 1447 01:17:38.659 --> 01:17:40.399 he's hurt? No, we're just going to give him a 1448 01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:41.279 couple more weeks to. 1449 01:17:41.229 --> 01:17:43.630 Get ready for games that we're actually worried about. I 1450 01:17:43.670 --> 01:17:44.689 would be furious. 1451 01:17:45.689 --> 01:17:49.590 Oh, yeah. So maybe the Niners will take that approach. Maybe. 1452 01:17:49.609 --> 01:17:52.949 I mean, I don't know. I hope. 1453 01:17:53.569 --> 01:17:54.710 I hope they're as mad as I am. 1454 01:17:57.810 --> 01:18:00.550 We shall see. I will be sending a text about 1455 01:18:00.550 --> 01:18:02.890 9 o'clock tonight. So be ready for it. 1456 01:18:03.380 --> 01:18:04.619 All right. Well, you're the man. 1457 01:18:04.699 --> 01:18:07.060 Absolutely love you, dog. Excited to see you this weekend. 1458 01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:12.020 Good luck to you and the boys tomorrow night against Westlake. And, yeah, 1459 01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:13.180 looking forward to

Saturday. 1460 01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:16.100 You got it, bro. Can't wait to see you. Love you. 1461 01:18:16.739 --> 01:18:18.020 And let's go Utes, baby! 1462 01:18:19.550 --> 01:18:20.289 That's the legend. 1463 01:18:20.430 --> 01:18:24.050 That's Eric Weddle going into the Ring of Honor Saturday 1464 01:18:24.069 --> 01:18:27.090 against Arkansas. 1465 01:18:27.430 --> 01:18:28.609 He is the absolute best. 1466 01:18:30.300 --> 01:18:33.279 Except he likes the Rams too much, and they're playing 1467 01:18:33.300 --> 01:18:34.659 the Niners. 1468 01:18:34.810 --> 01:18:36.670 No one can be perfect, all right? 1469 01:18:36.789 --> 01:18:39.909 He's almost there, but he just has bad taste in 1470 01:18:39.930 --> 01:18:43.529 NFC West teams, which is a plague in my life. 1471 01:18:44.329 --> 01:18:46.710 I'm surrounded by people who don't root for the Niners 1472 01:18:46.770 --> 01:18:48.590 or Rams or Seahawks or whatever. 1473 01:18:48.630 --> 01:18:51.329 But that's fine because you know what makes me feel better? 1474 01:18:51.350 --> 01:18:56.210 Being down here at Southern Steer Butcher, 1705 North Redwood Road, 1475 01:18:56.270 --> 01:18:58.449 Saratoga Springs. We've got a nice little flow of people 1476 01:18:58.529 --> 01:19:00.909 coming in, getting their meats for the weekend. They've got 1477 01:19:00.930 --> 01:19:04.560 tailgate parties. They've got barbecues going on. Dan Gunther is 1478 01:19:04.569 --> 01:19:05.939 the brains behind the operation. 1479 01:19:06.020 --> 01:19:08.399 Happy to have us out here, I hope. Man, what 1480 01:19:08.409 --> 01:19:09.319 a cool day so far. 1481 01:19:10.300 --> 01:19:15.720 And congratulations to Eric Weddle, man. What a legend. I mean, 1482 01:19:15.779 --> 01:19:18.479 talk about Utah, man. There's the guy. 1483 01:19:18.819 --> 01:19:22.569 You know, right, he heard me talking about the meet. 1484 01:19:22.609 --> 01:19:23.529 He's like, hey, do they ship? 1485 01:19:23.770 --> 01:19:26.670 Can I get them to ship to Southern California? 1486 01:19:26.689 --> 01:19:28.869 I'm like, look, we can probably make something happen for 1487 01:19:28.909 --> 01:19:29.529 Eric Weddle. 1488 01:19:29.550 --> 01:19:32.060 Sure, sure. Send him a dino boat. 1489 01:19:32.180 --> 01:19:32.680 There we go. 1490 01:19:33.699 --> 01:19:36.380 So what's the top seller, right? When people come in, 1491 01:19:36.779 --> 01:19:38.819 what is like the main driver? What's the bread and 1492 01:19:38.859 --> 01:19:39.939 butter of this place? 1493 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:43.350 Yeah, the most popular is the marinated meats, right? I mean, 1494 01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:46.430 you know, those steak tips, obviously, we put out on 1495 01:19:46.489 --> 01:19:49.470 sample every day. People come in for the first time. 1496 01:19:49.510 --> 01:19:51.390 They try those. They're like, oh, yeah, I got to 1497 01:19:51.710 --> 01:19:54.189 get that. As a matter of fact, there's times when 1498 01:19:54.310 --> 01:19:56.890 my team and I, people will come in. They'll buy 1499 01:19:57.449 --> 01:20:00.020 a T-bone or something, and we'll just send them home 1500 01:20:00.029 --> 01:20:02.260 with a couple of steak tips just to try because, 1501 01:20:02.380 --> 01:20:05.069 you know, we– We want them to have that experience 1502 01:20:05.109 --> 01:20:07.390 with those. And then they come back in there, those 1503 01:20:07.430 --> 01:20:13.199 steak tips were so good. So that's usually the key, 1504 01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:16.220 you know, most popular item here. 1505 01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:19.359 Well, you've got that. You've got all the mains, right? 1506 01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:22.699 The centerpiece of pretty much every meal at my house 1507 01:20:22.939 --> 01:20:24.920 is the meat, right? And you've got the chicken. You've 1508 01:20:24.939 --> 01:20:27.600 got the pork. You've got the exotic meats. Obviously, you've 1509 01:20:27.619 --> 01:20:29.710 got every cut of beef you could imagine. 1510 01:20:30.189 --> 01:20:30.729 But also. 1511 01:20:31.350 --> 01:20:34.750 You've got sides, and you've got, like, breads, and you've 1512 01:20:34.770 --> 01:20:37.789 got dips, and you've got marinades. So really, I mean, 1513 01:20:38.069 --> 01:20:41.909 it's not a full grocery store here. It is the 1514 01:20:41.989 --> 01:20:44.670 old-school butcher shop with the modern twist. But I can 1515 01:20:44.689 --> 01:20:46.529 walk in here, and I can walk out with everything 1516 01:20:46.590 --> 01:20:48.729 I need for a meal for the family, multiple meals 1517 01:20:48.750 --> 01:20:49.250 for the family. 1518 01:20:49.289 --> 01:20:52.210 Yeah, I mean, we even have, like, local farmer eggs 1519 01:20:52.310 --> 01:20:55.810 from Eagle Mountain, right? Fresh eggs right behind you in 1520 01:20:55.829 --> 01:20:59.050 the case there. Yeah, they're right here. We're really trying 1521 01:20:59.109 --> 01:21:06.229 to accentuate Utah-owned vendors. My wife and I, before we 1522 01:21:06.270 --> 01:21:08.170 opened the store, we spent a lot of time going 1523 01:21:08.189 --> 01:21:11.340 to farmer's markets and checking out local vendors with honeys 1524 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.800 and cheeses and things like that. So we're really trying 1525 01:21:14.859 --> 01:21:17.739 to bring in a lot of that local flavor into 1526 01:21:17.779 --> 01:21:20.039 the store, just kind of the way it was back 1527 01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:23.300 in the day, right? You go to a small-town butcher somewhere, 1528 01:21:23.380 --> 01:21:26.899 and it's mostly just the vendors that are in that 1529 01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:29.829 local area that are providing those products in that store. 1530 01:21:29.890 --> 01:21:33.569 So that's kind of the theme or the element for 1531 01:21:33.609 --> 01:21:34.189 this concept. 1532 01:21:34.829 --> 01:21:35.710 It is worth the trip. 1533 01:21:35.789 --> 01:21:38.409 Even if you live up above downtown Salt Lake like 1534 01:21:38.529 -->

01:21:40.189 I do, I'm in the avenues. It didn't take me 1535 01:21:40.250 --> 01:21:41.180 long to get here today. 1536 01:21:41.229 --> 01:21:41.760 I timed it out. 1537 01:21:41.770 --> 01:21:43.680 It was about a little over half an hour to 1538 01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:48.220 get down to 1705 North Redwood Road, where Southern Steer 1539 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:51.880 has everything you need for this weekend's barbecue, for the 1540 01:21:51.939 --> 01:21:56.949 birthday party, for the tailgate. And Dan and Aubrey, they 1541 01:21:56.989 --> 01:21:59.939 might sucker you in with those steak tips, all right? 1542 01:21:59.979 --> 01:22:01.260 The samples, they're going to get you. 1543 01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:03.579 I'm just going to warn you because you think I'm 1544 01:22:03.619 --> 01:22:05.140 just going to get the hamburgers, I'm just going to 1545 01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:07.479 get the hot dogs. You're going to want to leave 1546 01:22:07.500 --> 01:22:09.640 with more than that. So just prepare yourself for it 1547 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:11.939 because it's great stuff all up and down the menu 1548 01:22:11.979 --> 01:22:12.840 here at Southern Steer. 1549 01:22:13.220 --> 01:22:17.520 Yeah, we have picanha, hanger steak, I mean, you name it. 1550 01:22:17.810 --> 01:22:21.329 If you want to experiment on your grill and try 1551 01:22:21.369 --> 01:22:24.050 a cut of meat that you've never tried to cook before, 1552 01:22:24.649 --> 01:22:27.470 I mean, all of our team members are really well-versed 1553 01:22:27.569 --> 01:22:29.670 on how to prepare these meats and can kind of 1554 01:22:29.710 --> 01:22:32.149 talk you through it. Try something different. 1555 01:22:32.529 --> 01:22:35.189 I think that's probably my favorite thing about this whole concept, right? 1556 01:22:35.689 --> 01:22:37.770 Because for the people who are foodies and the people 1557 01:22:37.810 --> 01:22:39.789 who want to try something new and the people that 1558 01:22:39.829 --> 01:22:43.640 want something like truly gourmet, high attention to detail, you 1559 01:22:43.649 --> 01:22:46.140 could serve that market, right? You can get those people 1560 01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.140 the best meat, the best meal that they can imagine. 1561 01:22:48.539 --> 01:22:50.479 But also, if you're just a mom or dad on 1562 01:22:50.500 --> 01:22:51.460 the go that's busy. 1563 01:22:51.909 --> 01:22:53.609 And you just need something that's convenient. 1564 01:22:53.630 --> 01:22:55.720 You need to come in and grab something that's healthy, 1565 01:22:56.109 --> 01:22:58.520 that's got real nutrients for the family. You've got the 1566 01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.520 pre-made meals, right, that's just like, okay, here's your sides, 1567 01:23:01.579 --> 01:23:03.319 here's your meat. Go throw this on the grill. Go 1568 01:23:03.340 --> 01:23:05.699 throw this in the air fryer. Go throw that in 1569 01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:07.859 the microwave if you have to. And you've got a

1570 01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:11.819 family meal tonight, tomorrow night, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I mean, 1571 01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:14.300 you can feed your whole family here, which is what 1572 01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:15.140 they have at Southern Steer. 1573 01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:20.609 Yeah, of course. People go to the grocery store, the supermarket, 1574 01:23:20.670 --> 01:23:23.949 for the convenience of being able to get everything. Obviously, 1575 01:23:24.010 --> 01:23:27.140 we're trying to make them come for an extra stop. 1576 01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:27.579 Right. 1577 01:23:27.659 --> 01:23:29.600 But when you come in for that extra stop, you 1578 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.300 can pick up everything you need for a meal for 1579 01:23:32.340 --> 01:23:36.279 that evening, right? Really quick and easy. You take it 1580 01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:38.149 home in half an hour, and it's ready to go 1581 01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:38.699 for your family. 1582 01:23:38.899 --> 01:23:40.729 And I don't know how you're doing it with this 1583 01:23:40.770 --> 01:23:43.289 high-quality stuff at these prices, but I'm glad you are 1584 01:23:43.310 --> 01:23:45.850 because everyone here in Utah is real price conscious, and 1585 01:23:45.890 --> 01:23:47.000 you're meeting people where you need to. 1586 01:23:47.380 --> 01:23:51.560 Yeah, it's been really fun. The concept and the folks 1587 01:23:51.579 --> 01:23:55.279 that have come in since we've opened have really expressed 1588 01:23:55.500 --> 01:23:59.010 gratitude that we're here to provide this type of service. 1589 01:24:00.189 --> 01:24:05.710 Artisanal meats, humanely raised, clean, without all the stuff, the chemicals, 1590 01:24:05.750 --> 01:24:08.050 the hormones, the things that you don't want in your 1591 01:24:08.090 --> 01:24:12.590 family's bodies. 1705 North Redwood Road, Saratoga Springs. Come in 1592 01:24:12.630 --> 01:24:14.130 during the show, and if you can't make it during 1593 01:24:14.149 --> 01:24:16.199 the show, Tell Dan and Aubrey you heard about it 1594 01:24:16.300 --> 01:24:19.039 on the Sean O'Connell Show and on ESPN 700. 1595 01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:20.720 They'll hook you up. Thanks, Dan. You bet. 1596 01:24:22.010 --> 01:24:25.850 All right, the Daily Dump is next. We got a 1597 01:24:25.869 --> 01:24:27.390 little bit of sad news in it, but we won't 1598 01:24:27.449 --> 01:24:30.069 focus too much on the sad news. An assortment of 1599 01:24:30.109 --> 01:24:32.960 stories brought to you by Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling 1600 01:24:33.180 --> 01:24:35.600 in three minutes on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700, 1601 01:24:35.569 --> 01:24:35.779 92 on FM. 1602 01:24:42.380 --> 01:24:43.520 Feeling out of the loop? 1603 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.640 Let's catch up on today's biggest headlines in the Daily 1604 01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:49.579 News Dump, where we flush out the biggest stories of 1605 01:24:49.619 --> 01:24:52.880 the day on the Sean O'Connell

Show and Utah's number 1606 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:57.819 one sports talk, ESPN 792.1 FM. Brought to you by 1607 01:24:58.010 --> 01:24:59.729 Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. 1608 01:24:59.829 --> 01:25:01.649 Just look for the truck with the duck. 1609 01:25:07.149 --> 01:25:10.029 Daily Dump brought to you by Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. 1610 01:25:10.050 --> 01:25:11.069 Drain Cleaning. 1611 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:15.119 Plumbing, anything you need for your air conditioner, anything you 1612 01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:18.720 need for your furnace, anything you need excavation-wise, the truck 1613 01:25:18.739 --> 01:25:21.399 with the duck can handle it all for you. Telemose 1614 01:25:21.430 --> 01:25:24.789 sent you. Valleyplumbing.com. You don't even have to pick up 1615 01:25:24.850 --> 01:25:27.770 a phone. You can just make an appointment online. 1616 01:25:29.489 --> 01:25:31.149 All right. You know what? I'm going to get it 1617 01:25:31.189 --> 01:25:31.569 out of the way. 1618 01:25:31.590 --> 01:25:34.029 I'm going to start with the sad news so we 1619 01:25:34.060 --> 01:25:36.739 can move on to more humorous or enjoyable things. 1620 01:25:37.220 --> 01:25:38.460 This does stink, though, because. 1621 01:25:39.460 --> 01:25:44.140 Barry Melrose, who has been the main hockey guy on 1622 01:25:44.180 --> 01:25:47.840 television broadcasts, on television analysis for ESPN for a very 1623 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:51.579 long time. Barry Melrose, when they contracted and they stopped 1624 01:25:51.619 --> 01:25:54.109 covering hockey so much, Barry Melrose was like the last 1625 01:25:54.149 --> 01:25:57.130 holdover because Barry Melrose was the man of the people. 1626 01:25:57.189 --> 01:25:59.329 He was the guy that everyone wanted to hear from. 1627 01:26:00.270 --> 01:26:02.350 Barry Melrose has passed away at the age of 70. 1628 01:26:02.329 --> 01:26:07.239 They made the announcement yesterday. That's tragic. You hate to 1629 01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:09.000 see it happen to anyone. You hate to see it 1630 01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:12.399 happen to anyone that's a relatively young age right now 1631 01:26:12.420 --> 01:26:16.520 in modern technology and medicine. Obviously, he was a part 1632 01:26:16.539 --> 01:26:20.060 of everyone's hockey experience before we were a big-time hockey 1633 01:26:20.100 --> 01:26:21.090 market even. 1634 01:26:22.270 --> 01:26:24.039 RIP to Barry Melrose. 1635 01:26:23.609 --> 01:26:26.170 And condolences to his friends and family and all the 1636 01:26:26.210 --> 01:26:29.409 people that grew up on Barry Melrose hockey and Barry 1637 01:26:29.430 --> 01:26:32.489 Melrose hockey analysis. It's a weird thing when we see 1638 01:26:32.529 --> 01:26:35.750 this happen with our the sports announcers of our childhood, 1639 01:26:35.949 --> 01:26:39.060 the celebrities of our childhood, right? Because they don't know you, 1640 01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.579 but you have, like, memories associated

with them on your 1641 01:26:43.619 --> 01:26:47.619 television or sparking conversations that you have with your actual 1642 01:26:47.659 --> 01:26:50.500 loved ones and stuff. It's a really weird place where, 1643 01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:54.340 you know, you're mourning a stranger kind of. But, yeah, 1644 01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:58.069 Barry Melrose passes away at age 70. 1645 01:26:58.069 --> 01:27:01.210 Huge bummer. Yeah, OC, just real quick. 1646 01:27:03.020 --> 01:27:05.119 As someone like myself who did not grow up a 1647 01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.729 hockey fan really at all, I always liked his hits 1648 01:27:09.859 --> 01:27:13.449 on SportsCenter with Steve Levy or whoever it was growing up. 1649 01:27:14.229 --> 01:27:18.390 He was that guy that, and I think in the 1650 01:27:18.430 --> 01:27:22.210 early 2000s, 90s, before that, there seemed to be one 1651 01:27:22.289 --> 01:27:25.210 guy of every sport that worked for ESPN that would 1652 01:27:25.250 --> 01:27:31.300 do those SportsCenter hits that even if I didn't like 1653 01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:33.060 the sport or I was not yet a fan of 1654 01:27:33.100 --> 01:27:36.220 the sport, I loved hearing them talk about the sport. 1655 01:27:36.819 --> 01:27:39.939 And that's what Barry Melrose was for me. I hardly 1656 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:42.930 ever watched a hockey game, but I always looked forward 1657 01:27:42.970 --> 01:27:46.270 to hearing Barry Melrose talk about that night's hockey or 1658 01:27:46.310 --> 01:27:49.949 what's coming up because he was that great of a personality. 1659 01:27:49.970 --> 01:27:51.470 He was that great of an advocate for the game 1660 01:27:51.489 --> 01:27:54.149 and just that good at making it entertaining. 1661 01:27:54.189 --> 01:27:55.800 Even if I didn't like the sport. 1662 01:27:58.039 --> 01:27:58.239 Yeah. 1663 01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:02.039 He's just, His accent, everything, like the presentation, the slick 1664 01:28:02.060 --> 01:28:05.359 back hair, the cool suits. Barry Melrose was just, you know, 1665 01:28:05.430 --> 01:28:08.270 cooler than the other side of the pillow. And unfortunately, 1666 01:28:08.329 --> 01:28:13.609 Parkinson's brought a premature end to his life. So a 1667 01:28:13.649 --> 01:28:16.930 bum deal. But I like this is this pretty much 1668 01:28:16.949 --> 01:28:19.789 sums it up for me. The unquestioned face and voice 1669 01:28:19.850 --> 01:28:24.130 of hockey in the U.S. is how ESPN. That's the 1670 01:28:24.170 --> 01:28:26.560 headline they gave it. And you can't argue with any 1671 01:28:26.569 --> 01:28:30.579 of that when you were. Like the example you just gave, James, 1672 01:28:30.859 --> 01:28:33.909 when you were tuning in and watching other things, the 1673 01:28:33.949 --> 01:28:39.449 information you got about hockey was from Barry Melrose. So, 1674 01:28:40.619 --> 01:28:45.699 condolences to his friends and family. Alright, trying to switch 1675 01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:50.260 to less depressing subject matter. Sports Illustrated put out a 1676 01:28:50.300 --> 01:28:54.479 list of their best home field advantages in college football. 1677 01:28:55.100 --> 01:28:55.979 James, did you see this? 1678 01:28:57.779 --> 01:29:04.970 We sometimes overestimate where our local venues are placed in 1679 01:29:05.010 --> 01:29:06.750 the overall lexicon. 1680 01:29:06.289 --> 01:29:07.310 Of sports, right? 1681 01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:10.260 There was a time when the Delta Center with the 1682 01:29:10.380 --> 01:29:13.399 Utah Jazz was one of the more feared places in 1683 01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.800 the NBA because there was a lot of winning going 1684 01:29:15.939 --> 01:29:19.020 on at the Delta Center. And, of course, that begets 1685 01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:22.300 a rabid fan base, which then creates a lot more 1686 01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:24.810 craziness and a lot more loudness. 1687 01:29:25.590 --> 01:29:26.869 In more recent years. 1688 01:29:26.689 --> 01:29:30.489 Where the on-court success has not been quite as prevalent 1689 01:29:30.649 --> 01:29:35.050 you've had uh delta center crowds uh develop a reputation 1690 01:29:35.069 --> 01:29:38.470 for things that are less flattering uh now that it's 1691 01:29:38.510 --> 01:29:41.050 a hockey barn also starting to get a little attention 1692 01:29:41.090 --> 01:29:45.720 there in the league si put out a list ranking 1693 01:29:45.739 --> 01:29:48.619 the 12 best home field advantages in college football james 1694 01:29:48.659 --> 01:29:52.119 where do you think rice echo stadium appears on the 1695 01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:52.840 list if they. 1696 01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.000 Do what sorry how many are on the list again 1697 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:56.199 12 top 12 yeah nine. 1698 01:30:01.079 --> 01:30:05.279 Seven. Seven. All right. Shout out to you. Rice Eccles 1699 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:06.659 Stadium at number seven. 1700 01:30:06.819 --> 01:30:09.920 In terms of whole field advantages, Rice Eccles Stadium offers 1701 01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:10.899 the Utes quite a few. 1702 01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:13.479 For starters, the stadium sits. 1703 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:15.699 At 4,600 feet above sea level, which can make a 1704 01:30:15.739 --> 01:30:17.359 visiting team more quickly. 1705 01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:19.300 Then there's the must. Shout out to the must. 1706 01:30:19.939 --> 01:30:22.239 One of the most electric and rambunctious student sections in 1707 01:30:22.260 --> 01:30:25.119 the country, never failing to pack the house. To that end, 1708 01:30:25.140 --> 01:30:28.500 the Utes have sold out 96 consecutive games at Rice Eccles. 1709 01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:32.439 The blurb goes on to cite that the run from 1710 01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:36.020 2018 to the early parts of the 2024 season before 1711 01:30:36.050 --> 01:30:38.789 the wheels fell off. The Utes had dropped just three 1712 01:30:38.850 --> 01:30:43.029 home games in a seven-year span, and they even

played 1713 01:30:43.069 --> 01:30:45.970 a number of ranked teams in that time. One of 1714 01:30:45.989 --> 01:30:49.829 the loudest and toughest environments by multiple coaches in the 1715 01:30:49.869 --> 01:30:53.949 Big 12, and it is the only Big 12 venue 1716 01:30:54.130 --> 01:30:57.670 on the list. So you've got that going for you, 1717 01:30:57.689 --> 01:31:00.760 Rice-Eckel Stadium. A little shout-out from Sports Illustrated. 1718 01:31:01.020 --> 01:31:05.479 Before the 24th season, one of those losses was that 1719 01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:10.939 USC season opener in 2020, which we don't even like 1720 01:31:10.979 --> 01:31:14.760 to count the whole season, but particularly the season opener 1721 01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:17.539 when you had to start in, what, November or whatever 1722 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:21.260 it was, October, when you didn't even know you were 1723 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:23.319 going to have a season until then. That was as 1724 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:27.180 fluky as all get out. Cam Rising has that season-ending 1725 01:31:27.300 --> 01:31:29.779 shoulder injury in the first quarter of that game, too. 1726 01:31:30.449 --> 01:31:31.899 after he won the job in 2020. 1727 01:31:31.899 --> 01:31:35.810 2020 doesn't count. So, yeah, that one you can wash out. 1728 01:31:36.170 --> 01:31:38.029 So if you take that away, they only had two 1729 01:31:38.109 --> 01:31:42.279 home losses in that seven-year stretch. And even if you 1730 01:31:42.340 --> 01:31:45.439 count 2024, they. 1731 01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:46.439 Barely lost at home. 1732 01:31:46.500 --> 01:31:51.039 So I'm glad that Sports Illustrated is recognizing them in 1733 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:55.720 this way. And it just validates again what Weddle said 1734 01:31:56.140 --> 01:31:59.770 about Arkansas being scared to play Utah at night. And 1735 01:31:59.979 --> 01:32:03.010 while also saying, ah, they can't be that good of 1736 01:32:03.050 --> 01:32:06.930 a home crowd, only 50,000 people in the stands. We're 1737 01:32:06.989 --> 01:32:11.829 used to closer to 100,000 in SEC country. Well, I mean, 1738 01:32:12.569 --> 01:32:14.850 Weddle's probably right again that they're going to find out 1739 01:32:14.909 --> 01:32:16.609 just how hard it is to play at Rice-Eccles. 1740 01:32:17.850 --> 01:32:23.329 The full list is available on Sports Illustrated, and it is, 1741 01:32:23.689 --> 01:32:26.760 as one might expect, it is full of a bunch 1742 01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:27.960 of SEC stadiums. 1743 01:32:28.699 --> 01:32:31.479 My computer is frozen, and that's why I'm filibustering. But 1744 01:32:33.779 --> 01:32:34.020 it's a. 1745 01:32:34.010 --> 01:32:37.670 Flattering list for Rice-Eccles Stadium and the University of Utah 1746 01:32:38.109 --> 01:32:41.250 to appear on. You've got, you know, every stadium in 1747 01:32:41.289 --> 01:32:44.170 the country is eligible to be one of these top 1748 01:32:44.210 --> 01:32:49.659 home field advantages.

And Rice-Eccles, the fans here, Utah fans, 1749 01:32:50.659 --> 01:32:53.399 not just University of Utah fans, but fans in the 1750 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:57.340 state of Utah seem to be as prideful about about 1751 01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:01.130 that as they are about anything. Is that an accurate assessment? 1752 01:33:02.609 --> 01:33:07.449 About our home court or home field advantages? 100%, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 1753 01:33:07.489 --> 01:33:13.430 I mean, there's great argument to be made that Jazz 1754 01:33:13.470 --> 01:33:16.130 fans have the– that the Delta Center and Jazz fans 1755 01:33:16.189 --> 01:33:18.760 create the best home court advantage in the NBA even. 1756 01:33:19.529 --> 01:33:21.840 But they're good, yeah. There's others. 1757 01:33:22.619 --> 01:33:26.819 The full list goes like this. It's Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn, okay? 1758 01:33:27.869 --> 01:33:32.670 Oklahoma's stadium is the Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium. Ben 1759 01:33:32.710 --> 01:33:35.250 Hill Griffin Stadium, more affectionately referred. 1760 01:33:35.010 --> 01:33:36.229 To as the Swamp. 1761 01:33:36.550 --> 01:33:39.550 Utah fans experience just what kind of home field advantage 1762 01:33:39.590 --> 01:33:41.060 that could be a few years ago, yeah. 1763 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:46.279 Memorial Stadium of the Clemson Tigers. Saban Field at Bryant-Denny 1764 01:33:46.340 --> 01:33:49.439 Stadium for the Alabama Crimson Tide, number seven, as we 1765 01:33:49.460 --> 01:33:53.600 already mentioned, Rice-Eccles. Sanford Stadium, home of the Georgia Bulldogs. 1766 01:33:53.659 --> 01:33:56.630 Beaver Stadium, where the Penn State Nittany Lions play. And 1767 01:33:56.649 --> 01:33:59.050 they talk so much about the whiteouts that it's like, okay, 1768 01:33:59.090 --> 01:34:02.310 are you a great home field advantage just during whiteout games? 1769 01:34:03.130 --> 01:34:06.680 Number four, Kyle Field, Texas A & M, the 12th man. 1770 01:34:06.699 --> 01:34:07.439 Sure. 1771 01:34:07.460 --> 01:34:10.180 The original 12th man. Thanks a lot for copying another thing, 1772 01:34:10.619 --> 01:34:16.350 Seattle Seahawks. Ohio Stadium, the shoe for your Ohio State Buckeyes. 1773 01:34:16.569 --> 01:34:19.130 Autzen Stadium is number two on the list, home of 1774 01:34:19.149 --> 01:34:23.239 the Oregon Ducks. And then Death Valley, Tiger Stadium. where 1775 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:27.420 LSU applies their trade, is the number one home field advantage, 1776 01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:33.359 according to Sports Illustrated. Since 2000, the Tigers are 154-26 1777 01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:39.810 at home, and a particular emphasis, as it is at Rice-Eccles, 1778 01:34:39.859 --> 01:34:43.609 on night games. It used to be even scarier because 1779 01:34:43.649 --> 01:34:46.149 they actually had the Tiger on. 1780 01:34:46.050 --> 01:34:48.409 The field at LSU. The live Tiger. 1781 01:34:49.029 --> 01:34:51.270 They decided that was animal cruelty, and they stopped bringing 1782 01:34:51.289 --> 01:34:54.689 Mike the Tiger home. down to the field during games 1783 01:34:54.729 --> 01:34:59.670 where the decibel level is hitting like 130. But, yeah, 1784 01:35:00.270 --> 01:35:04.470 they've created a world-class zoo enclosure for Mike the Tiger 1785 01:35:04.869 --> 01:35:06.989 across the street from the stadium. They still have a 1786 01:35:07.060 --> 01:35:12.840 live LSU tiger mascot, but now he's in the best 1787 01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:17.079 tiger enclosure from a captivity standpoint that you can find, 1788 01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:19.680 which is probably much better for the animal. 1789 01:35:20.100 --> 01:35:27.310 Better than Joe Exotics? wow or doc antles all right um. 1790 01:35:29.729 --> 01:35:31.829 I i've been debating on whether or not we actually 1791 01:35:31.850 --> 01:35:35.850 want to play this dan i mean from dan from 1792 01:35:35.869 --> 01:35:40.109 dan patrick uh let's just play the sound and see 1793 01:35:40.149 --> 01:35:42.529 if people can recognize without me telling you who this 1794 01:35:42.630 --> 01:35:44.909 is calling in to the dan patrick show. 1795 01:35:45.449 --> 01:35:48.869 Zach in california joining us on the program good morning 1796 01:35:48.930 --> 01:35:50.149 zach what's on your mind. 1797 01:35:51.970 --> 01:35:57.609 Ciao, DP. I got to say, first time, long time, 6'6, 220, 1798 01:35:57.590 --> 01:35:58.149 all beer belly. 1799 01:35:58.189 --> 01:35:58.250 Eh? 1800 01:36:02.180 --> 01:36:04.399 All right, and I got three things for you, but 1801 01:36:04.420 --> 01:36:06.970 I'll make them quick. Number one, I don't remember if 1802 01:36:07.029 --> 01:36:09.750 it was you or Marvin that was talking about an 1803 01:36:09.949 --> 01:36:13.210 owner meddling with the draft or somebody asking about the 1804 01:36:13.250 --> 01:36:15.930 fastest 40, but it was killing me when you guys 1805 01:36:15.949 --> 01:36:18.460 were talking about it because you missed the biggest story. 1806 01:36:18.699 --> 01:36:22.239 Al Davis, God rest his soul, walked into– I was 1807 01:36:22.260 --> 01:36:25.159 doing the Raiders pre- and post-game at that time. He 1808 01:36:25.220 --> 01:36:28.319 walked into the room and said– I don't care who 1809 01:36:28.359 --> 01:36:30.939 you guys want to take, who has the fastest 40. 1810 01:36:30.939 --> 01:36:35.109 And they said Darius Hayward Bay. And they were going 1811 01:36:35.149 --> 01:36:40.010 to take Michael Crabtree, who ironically got drafted by the 49ers. 1812 01:36:40.050 --> 01:36:41.550 And I was like, how did you guys not put 1813 01:36:41.569 --> 01:36:45.270 that story together? But you probably didn't know that. Anyway, 1814 01:36:45.430 --> 01:36:47.850 I know you love Reggie Miller. I do too. But 1815 01:36:47.930 --> 01:36:50.909 my favorite, number 31, is the Matrix, Sean Marion. I 1816 01:36:50.949 --> 01:36:53.989 would love to know your thoughts. on him as a player. 1817 01:36:54.060 -->

01:36:57.460 And finally, Dan, you're simulcast in like a thousand cities. 1818 01:36:57.680 --> 01:36:59.619 I've worked in one of those. I will not name 1819 01:36:59.659 --> 01:37:03.079 the station, but one of those quote unquote consultants that 1820 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:07.060 I'm sure at some point during your career, you've come across, 1821 01:37:07.720 --> 01:37:10.479 came in and literally hit me with, well, why can't 1822 01:37:10.500 --> 01:37:16.149 you just be like Dan Patrick? And I said, I said, well, look, 1823 01:37:16.229 --> 01:37:18.090 I know you love your front room and your back 1824 01:37:18.130 --> 01:37:20.210 room and all your guys. I told him, I said 1825 01:37:20.529 --> 01:37:23.029 straight to his face, I said, because not many people 1826 01:37:23.090 --> 01:37:25.810 are Dan Patrick. Anyway, I don't want to toot your horn, 1827 01:37:25.850 --> 01:37:28.670 love you, Paul, Todd, Patrick, Marvin, Dylan, all the guys. 1828 01:37:28.890 --> 01:37:31.310 My point is, is like, you know, people don't really 1829 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.619 understand the industry until you're in the industry. 1830 01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:38.079 Thank you, Zach. And Zach in California, full of energy there. 1831 01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:44.659 Oh, that's our guy Zachariah. Remember what he used to 1832 01:37:44.699 --> 01:37:48.579 fill in for me? I still love him. 1833 01:37:48.810 --> 01:37:51.390 I know that there were a certain contingent of you 1834 01:37:51.409 --> 01:37:53.050 that didn't like Zachariah on the radio. 1835 01:37:53.069 --> 01:37:56.229 He was too cowly for you. I love the dude. 1836 01:37:56.590 --> 01:37:57.489 Great friend of mine. 1837 01:37:58.109 --> 01:38:01.989 And hearing him call into the Dan Patrick show, I 1838 01:38:02.029 --> 01:38:03.640 can't wait to call him after this show is over 1839 01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:06.420 so that I can give him a hard time about that. 1840 01:38:06.739 --> 01:38:07.680 James heard that live. 1841 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:09.960 I was not listening to Dan Patrick when that happened. 1842 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.750 James alerted me to it. Thanks for pulling that sound, James. 1843 01:38:13.090 --> 01:38:14.630 That's a little local connection. 1844 01:38:14.689 --> 01:38:16.449 Our guy Zachariah, who used to be a part of 1845 01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:19.579 the station here, is my fill-in host when I was 1846 01:38:19.619 --> 01:38:20.720 away for PFL duties. 1847 01:38:21.619 --> 01:38:23.659 Zachariah on the Dan Patrick Show. 1848 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:27.100 And now if you didn't know, everyone knows the station 1849 01:38:27.149 --> 01:38:29.289 he was referring to when he told that story. 1850 01:38:29.300 --> 01:38:30.960 About working at one of. 1851 01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:34.300 The stations that aired the Dan Patrick Show. 1852 01:38:34.380 --> 01:38:34.819 I don't know. 1853 01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:38.760 He didn't name who he was talking about, the consultant 1854 01:38:38.779 --> 01:38:41.239 he was talking about. I know who he was talking about. 1855 01:38:41.689 --> 01:38:44.670 Can't speak to that, but great story about our station. 1856 01:38:45.090 --> 01:38:47.609 You know who he's talking about, too, James. Well, I 1857 01:38:47.649 --> 01:38:49.380 don't know for sure. I'll just put it that way. 1858 01:38:50.750 --> 01:38:54.170 All right, great stuff. Reminder to all of you as 1859 01:38:54.189 --> 01:38:56.770 we finish up the Daily Dump that we've got an 1860 01:38:56.810 --> 01:39:01.010 injury report coming. It's the first official one because it's 1861 01:39:01.029 --> 01:39:02.529 the first Big 12 game of the season. 1862 01:39:03.510 --> 01:39:06.409 Reminder that if you need any help with any plumbing, 1863 01:39:06.590 --> 01:39:10.130 any HVAC, any excavation, the truck with the duck is 1864 01:39:10.149 --> 01:39:13.989 your best option. Daily Dump brought to you by Valley Plumbing, Heating, Cooling, 1865 01:39:14.189 --> 01:39:17.189 and Excavation here on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700 1866 01:39:17.189 --> 01:39:17.409 and 92.1 FM. 1867 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:25.659 You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show, your source for 1868 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:27.659 the best used football coverage. 1869 01:39:27.699 --> 01:39:28.439 Here's O.C. 1870 01:39:28.460 --> 01:39:32.279 From the Murdoch Hyundai Studio on ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM. 1871 01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:34.460 All right, we're. 1872 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.850 Going to talk with Dan from Southern Steer Butcher here 1873 01:39:39.869 --> 01:39:40.689 in just a second. 1874 01:39:40.729 --> 01:39:42.329 That's where we're broadcasting from today. 1875 01:39:42.369 --> 01:39:44.069 But right now, an injury report brought to you by 1876 01:39:44.109 --> 01:39:47.649 the Advocates Injury Attorneys. If you've been injured in any 1877 01:39:47.750 --> 01:39:50.029 kind of accident, doesn't have to be a car accident, 1878 01:39:50.390 --> 01:39:52.689 maybe you're just curious, do I have a case? They 1879 01:39:52.729 --> 01:39:54.729 can help me recoup some of the medical costs or 1880 01:39:54.750 --> 01:40:02.159 whatever from this injury. Call the Advocates, 801-355-5550, or visit utahadvocates.com. 1881 01:40:02.619 --> 01:40:05.340 No official injury report for the Utah game because it's 1882 01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:08.680 not a Big 12 game, but what we are hearing 1883 01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:13.600 is that Keith Olsen should potentially be available. Ike Garcia 1884 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.630 should potentially be available. So the rotation on the offensive line, 1885 01:40:17.689 --> 01:40:23.729 hopefully at full strength. For the Arizona-BYU game, because that is, 1886 01:40:23.789 --> 01:40:28.270 of course, a Big 12 game, Arizona will be missing 1887 01:40:28.329 --> 01:40:33.920 three players, Everett Rosa Jr., Dajon Hinton, Ezra Funa. Questionable 1888 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:38.640 for their linebacker, Myron

Robinson. Much more importantly, we got 1889 01:40:38.699 --> 01:40:43.399 news that Sione Moa tore his PCL and MCL, the 1890 01:40:43.470 --> 01:40:46.189 backup running back for BYU. And really, backup is not 1891 01:40:46.289 --> 01:40:48.569 fair to him. It's more of the one-two punch running back. 1892 01:40:49.109 --> 01:40:49.630 With L.J. 1893 01:40:49.689 --> 01:40:49.949 Martin. 1894 01:40:49.970 --> 01:40:53.689 He's an incredibly talented player, a hard runner. He's going 1895 01:40:53.710 --> 01:40:56.029 to be out for a significant amount of time with 1896 01:40:56.069 --> 01:40:59.930 those knee injuries. Also, Rader Damuni, who got banged up 1897 01:41:00.109 --> 01:41:03.770 against Utah Tech, he is going to be out for this. 1898 01:41:03.729 --> 01:41:05.270 One, as is Javessa Damuni. 1899 01:41:05.630 --> 01:41:09.800 But Sione Mola and Rader Damuni, big losses for the Cougs, 1900 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:12.779 and both of those guys expected to miss a significant 1901 01:41:12.819 --> 01:41:15.819 amount of time. Although, Rader Damuni's prognosis is was better 1902 01:41:15.859 --> 01:41:18.260 than they initially thought. They thought maybe he'd be out 1903 01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:21.760 until like November, could be sooner for Raider to Mooney. 1904 01:41:22.619 --> 01:41:27.140 Also of note, Isaiah Glasker is probable for the Arizona game. 1905 01:41:27.199 --> 01:41:29.399 And this is the first Big 12 game, big time 1906 01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:35.390 matchup of the year. That one will kick off at 1.30 1907 01:41:35.390 --> 01:41:39.350 Mountain Time in Provo this Saturday. So actually, if you're 1908 01:41:39.369 --> 01:41:42.369 a real hardcore football, college football junkie, and you have 1909 01:41:42.430 --> 01:41:46.229 access to tickets to both, you could go watch Arizona BYU, 1910 01:41:46.350 --> 01:41:49.229 and then jog up to Rice-Eckel Stadium and catch the 1911 01:41:49.289 --> 01:41:51.810 night game against Arkansas if you really want to pack 1912 01:41:51.850 --> 01:41:54.680 your day, which is something that I can see Dan 1913 01:41:55.340 --> 01:41:57.859 Gunther doing. He is the brains behind the operation here 1914 01:41:57.899 --> 01:42:02.279 at Southern Steer Butcher. 1705 North Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. 1915 01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:04.229 We've got a big day of college football coming up. 1916 01:42:04.260 --> 01:42:06.220 We've got a big weekend in the NFL coming up. 1917 01:42:06.739 --> 01:42:09.359 Feels like now is the time everyone should be stocking 1918 01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:12.340 up on the meats and getting everything stocked up for 1919 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:14.579 the barbecue, the tailgate, whatever, Dan. 1920 01:42:15.430 --> 01:42:18.149 Yeah, so we just got a big old truck delivery here. 1921 01:42:18.989 --> 01:42:21.449 We got all the fresh meats just came in from 1922 01:42:21.550 --> 01:42:26.210 our distributor. We're ready to go for the weekend. Excited 1923 01:42:26.229 --> 01:42:28.649 to have folks come in and, you know, get their 1924 01:42:28.789 --> 01:42:32.550 tailgate material and have fun cooking it up. I mean, 1925 01:42:32.789 --> 01:42:35.569 definitely try those armadillo eggs. 1926 01:42:36.130 --> 01:42:38.510 If you want to impress, like, the guests that are 1927 01:42:38.550 --> 01:42:40.489 coming over to the tailgate or the guests that are 1928 01:42:40.529 --> 01:42:44.689 coming over to the barbecue, obviously just having good, solid, 1929 01:42:44.710 --> 01:42:47.649 great meat It's a good starting point. But you roll 1930 01:42:47.729 --> 01:42:50.140 out a couple of those armadillo eggs that they've never 1931 01:42:50.189 --> 01:42:52.020 had before. They've never seen something like that. 1932 01:42:52.460 --> 01:42:54.319 I go, okay, what is this? Bacon wrapped what? 1933 01:42:55.600 --> 01:43:01.000 The armadillo eggs are a jalapeno popper wrapped in sausage 1934 01:43:01.659 --> 01:43:03.300 and then wrapped again in bacon. 1935 01:43:03.579 --> 01:43:03.909 That's it. 1936 01:43:04.590 --> 01:43:06.510 You got it. You cut that bad boy open. 1937 01:43:06.670 --> 01:43:07.590 That's a meal. 1938 01:43:07.510 --> 01:43:08.289 In and of itself. 1939 01:43:09.430 --> 01:43:12.810 It can be. We also have some really cool dips, too. 1940 01:43:12.890 --> 01:43:17.739 We home make our... Hot Honey Crack Chicken Dip. We'll 1941 01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:19.859 pull some of that out for you to try. It's really, 1942 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:21.500 really good. 1943 01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:24.699 By the way, we've got Devin Dampier Dishing with Dev 1944 01:43:24.779 --> 01:43:27.619 coming on, and we recorded that earlier in the week, 1945 01:43:27.659 --> 01:43:31.359 which means I'm going to be eating all the samples 1946 01:43:31.420 --> 01:43:33.550 in the store. If you want to catch some samples, 1947 01:43:33.550 --> 01:43:36.850 1705 North Redwood Road, Saratoga Springs, you're running out of 1948 01:43:36.890 --> 01:43:38.689 time because as soon as I get some free time, 1949 01:43:39.109 --> 01:43:41.770 I'm demolishing every sample that they've got here in the store. 1950 01:43:42.149 --> 01:43:44.630 It smells good down here. The meat case, it looks 1951 01:43:44.670 --> 01:43:45.329 so excellent. 1952 01:43:45.909 --> 01:43:47.630 And if you know how to do it, if you 1953 01:43:47.649 --> 01:43:49.630 already know your way around the grill, this is the 1954 01:43:49.649 --> 01:43:52.170 perfect place for you to come. But also, if you're 1955 01:43:52.210 --> 01:43:56.149 kind of a beginner, come on in. Let Dan, Aubrey, 1956 01:43:56.189 --> 01:43:58.229 the crew tell you, all right, here's the meat. 1957 01:43:58.289 --> 01:43:59.270 This is how you prepare it. 1958 01:43:59.630 --> 01:44:02.289 I love that you offer not just great product but 1959 01:44:02.329 --> 01:44:04.010 advice on how to make it turn out the right way. 1960 01:44:04.270 --> 01:44:06.630 Yeah, funny

you should say because last segment we had 1961 01:44:06.649 --> 01:44:10.310 a guy come in who earlier today bought a marinated 1962 01:44:10.329 --> 01:44:11.989 chicken Chicken breast. 1963 01:44:12.050 --> 01:44:12.750 I saw him come in. 1964 01:44:12.770 --> 01:44:13.130 Yeah. 1965 01:44:13.710 --> 01:44:15.789 And a sausage. And he went home and he cooked 1966 01:44:15.810 --> 01:44:17.869 it on his barbecue and he had to come back 1967 01:44:17.930 --> 01:44:19.729 and tell us how good it was. 1968 01:44:19.850 --> 01:44:21.039 That's awesome. 1969 01:44:21.060 --> 01:44:23.359 Just that stuff, it's priceless, right? 1970 01:44:23.500 --> 01:44:26.619 And look, that's not the relationship you have with your 1971 01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:29.579 grocery store people. That is the relationship you're going to 1972 01:44:29.619 --> 01:44:33.229 have with Southern Steer Butcher. You've created this mom and 1973 01:44:33.250 --> 01:44:34.590 pop shop with a modern twist. 1974 01:44:35.010 --> 01:44:37.750 Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, we call our team 1975 01:44:37.789 --> 01:44:40.930 members here culinary consultants because they really need to know 1976 01:44:41.539 --> 01:44:43.970 You know, where the cut of meat from, what portion 1977 01:44:43.989 --> 01:44:46.539 of the cattle it comes from, how to prepare it. 1978 01:44:46.890 --> 01:44:49.130 We often ask people when they come in and they're 1979 01:44:49.189 --> 01:44:51.029 picking up a piece of meat, well, how do you 1980 01:44:51.069 --> 01:44:54.500 plan to prepare it? And they'll describe it to us 1981 01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:57.899 and we'll try to accentuate things for them. We have 1982 01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:01.460 rubs and sauces that you can apply to some of 1983 01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:05.189 your barbecue or grilled meats that I think are amazing ingredients. 1984 01:45:05.729 --> 01:45:10.119 Our black garlic steak crust is phenomenal. I mean, you 1985 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.840 just sprinkle a little bit of that on before you 1986 01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:16.640 sear your steak. And that brown, you know, crust on 1987 01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.380 the outside of your steak has such a wonderful flavor 1988 01:45:19.420 --> 01:45:22.800 to it. Like, those are the little nuances that when 1989 01:45:22.840 --> 01:45:25.659 you come into Southern Steer, you're going to get some 1990 01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:30.539 little bit of advice, you know, some culinary tips, if 1991 01:45:30.579 --> 01:45:33.300 you will, to help you do a better job when 1992 01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:33.880 you're on your grill. 1993 01:45:34.510 --> 01:45:36.489 I promise you it is worth the trip down here 1994 01:45:36.569 --> 01:45:41.069 to Southern Steer Butchers. 1705 North Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. 1995 01:45:41.149 --> 01:45:43.649 Come down today during the show. We've got another hour 1996 01:45:43.670 --> 01:45:45.770 of the show. Come down after the show. Tell them 1997 01:45:45.829 -->

01:45:50.569 OC sent you. We start hour number three with Devin Dampier. 1998 01:45:50.590 --> 01:45:53.489 Edition with Dev is next right here on your home 1999 01:45:53.529 --> 01:45:54.489 of the Utes, ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 2000 01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:00.479 It's time to talk to Utah quarterback Devin Dampier. This 2001 01:46:00.939 --> 01:46:04.199 is Dishing with Devin on the Sean O'Connell Show. Brought 2002 01:46:04.220 --> 01:46:07.489 to you by Colligan Water, Salt Lake City, America First 2003 01:46:07.550 --> 01:46:11.010 Credit Union, and Valley Plumbing, Heating and Cooling. Now here's 2004 01:46:11.170 --> 01:46:14.909 OC with Ute Star signal caller Devin Dampier on your 2005 01:46:14.970 --> 01:46:15.949 home of the Utes. 2006 01:46:15.930 --> 01:46:18.680 And your home for football. ESPN 792.1 FM. 2007 01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:24.819 It's that time again on the Sean O'Connell show edition 2008 01:46:24.859 --> 01:46:28.840 with dev, our conversation with Q B one, who is 2009 01:46:28.979 --> 01:46:30.979 one to know as you're starting quarterback this year at 2010 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:35.100 the university of Utah, big game coming up against Arkansas 2011 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:40.359 this Saturday, Devin damp here brought to you by Culligan water, 2012 01:46:41.340 --> 01:46:46.949 Valley plumbing, heating, and cooling and America first credit union dev. 2013 01:46:47.229 --> 01:46:47.770 Welcome again. 2014 01:46:47.810 --> 01:46:49.689 How are you, sir? Do well, do well. 2015 01:46:50.579 --> 01:46:52.680 All right, so 1-0. 2016 01:46:52.739 --> 01:46:54.760 The best thing about being 1-0 is a chance to 2017 01:46:54.779 --> 01:46:58.340 go 2-0. No surprises, really. It was a dominant performance 2018 01:46:59.100 --> 01:47:02.039 against Idaho, but tell me how it felt. Tell me 2019 01:47:02.079 --> 01:47:03.890 how it was to get out there against a team 2020 01:47:03.899 --> 01:47:06.359 that didn't wear the same colors as you after camp 2021 01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:06.789 and all that. 2022 01:47:07.390 --> 01:47:10.770 Yeah, I think the best part about it is, again, 2023 01:47:10.810 --> 01:47:14.250 I've been preaching it the last two weeks, just everybody 2024 01:47:14.270 --> 01:47:17.130 being together for once and being on that same side, 2025 01:47:17.210 --> 01:47:21.770 but honestly, offensive-wise, I was I was pretty excited how 2026 01:47:21.789 --> 01:47:24.420 we came out. I feel like you look at a 2027 01:47:24.449 --> 01:47:27.319 couple other teams during week one and their offense didn't 2028 01:47:27.340 --> 01:47:30.920 look like they came out prepared. There were some tweaks 2029 01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:33.329 they had to make by halftime. I feel like we 2030 01:47:33.350 --> 01:47:35.670 kind of came out on all cylinders. I was just 2031 01:47:35.710 --> 01:47:37.229 proud of our preparation. 2032 01:47:39.100 --> 01:47:42.520 How did it feel getting hit for real? Because one thing, 2033 01:47:43.050 --> 01:47:44.979 you don't shy away from it, Dev. There's a lot 2034 01:47:45.020 --> 01:47:46.729 of people, a lot of us watching just like, oh, 2035 01:47:46.770 --> 01:47:49.489 don't take that hit. Oh, Dev, don't get hit so much. Dev, 2036 01:47:49.510 --> 01:47:52.449 just step out of bounds. But you're not shy about it. 2037 01:47:52.449 --> 01:47:54.470 You're a football player. How did it feel to get 2038 01:47:54.510 --> 01:47:56.869 hit for real? Because obviously they kind of bubble wrap 2039 01:47:56.909 --> 01:47:58.989 you for the last seven or eight months. 2040 01:47:59.350 --> 01:48:01.909 Yeah, I definitely felt the first one. And then after that, 2041 01:48:01.949 --> 01:48:04.029 I was good. But yeah, the first one, I think 2042 01:48:04.109 --> 01:48:07.260 I threw a ball and I got smacked. But I 2043 01:48:07.270 --> 01:48:10.479 was like, all right, but. I think it was Layshawn's touchdown. 2044 01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:14.229 That was the one, yeah. I got, yeah, yeah. But 2045 01:48:14.229 --> 01:48:16.800 you're all right. I'm good, I'm good. 2046 01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:17.210 Yeah. 2047 01:48:17.210 --> 01:48:19.600 Do you i mean do you kind of like that 2048 01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:21.340 does it feel like all right now it's football again 2049 01:48:21.539 --> 01:48:24.399 because i got you know i got tackled i got 2050 01:48:24.439 --> 01:48:27.260 hit a little bit and and it's it's a real 2051 01:48:27.300 --> 01:48:30.199 game is that wake you up somewhat yeah it puts. 2052 01:48:30.060 --> 01:48:32.260 Me in that mode like all right but we're here 2053 01:48:33.050 --> 01:48:33.770 We're here. We're playing. 2054 01:48:34.130 --> 01:48:34.430 All right. 2055 01:48:34.949 --> 01:48:39.229 So, self-scout. You've seen the film now. Obviously, you played 2056 01:48:39.250 --> 01:48:42.310 the game itself. Give me a grade for Devin Dampier. 2057 01:48:42.329 --> 01:48:46.100 How do you feel like you did first time out? 2058 01:48:46.109 --> 01:48:48.720 I would say like a B. 2059 01:48:49.029 --> 01:48:49.340 Okay. 2060 01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:50.350 B plus. 2061 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:52.439 Yeah. 2062 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:54.220 I would put myself around there. 2063 01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:57.880 Okay. Elaborate for me if you don't mind. Like. 2064 01:48:58.869 --> 01:49:01.649 What would have been an A? Why wasn't it an A? 2065 01:49:01.829 --> 01:49:04.979 We're nitpicking like everyone else is. So tell me what 2066 01:49:04.989 --> 01:49:07.640 you wanted to see better from yourself looking back at 2067 01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:08.119 it or whatever. 2068 01:49:09.140 --> 01:49:13.800 Well, protection-wise, I hope I helped myself without getting hit more. 2069 01:49:13.960 --> 01:49:14.300 Okay. 2070 01:49:15.260 --> 01:49:17.060 I prefer to not get hit every time I throw 2071 01:49:17.079 --> 01:49:20.100 the ball because it's from me not telling the line 2072 01:49:20.119 --> 01:49:21.739 to go block him and stuff like

that. 2073 01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:26.000 I don't know. There's always every game you're like, oh, 2074 01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:27.739 I could have done this slightly better. Of course. 2075 01:49:28.260 --> 01:49:30.399 This is how I feel about every single play. I'm like, 2076 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:32.159 all right, I could have probably did this and we 2077 01:49:32.659 --> 01:49:34.180 would have did a little bit better. 2078 01:49:34.340 --> 01:49:39.520 A really, really solid stat line, obviously. 13 of 18, 176. 2079 01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:42.119 Almost 10 yards of completion. That's a nice number. Let's 2080 01:49:42.140 --> 01:49:45.930 keep it up there all year, right? Three touchdowns, no interceptions. 2081 01:49:47.609 --> 01:49:52.050 Running the ball, six carries for 31 yards. I don't 2082 01:49:52.210 --> 01:49:53.390 have it in front of me how many of those 2083 01:49:53.430 --> 01:49:55.590 were designed and how many you actually just had to 2084 01:49:55.630 --> 01:49:58.340 kind of pull the ball down and scoot, but felt 2085 01:49:58.359 --> 01:49:59.100 like an even split. 2086 01:49:59.140 --> 01:50:00.340 Maybe. Is that accurate? 2087 01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:04.619 Speaker 2 I'd probably say I got a lot more 2088 01:50:04.689 --> 01:50:05.569 off scramble. 2089 01:50:05.789 --> 01:50:06.029 Okay. 2090 01:50:06.750 --> 01:50:11.430 Design Speaker 3 You guys, because I mean, partially because 2091 01:50:11.449 --> 01:50:13.590 it was Idaho, partially because you jumped out to a 2092 01:50:13.609 --> 01:50:15.890 big lead and got to run the 10 different guys 2093 01:50:15.930 --> 01:50:17.409 got to run the ball in this game. And I 2094 01:50:17.449 --> 01:50:19.869 know that's not going to be the norm, but we've 2095 01:50:19.890 --> 01:50:22.170 been talking about it all off season long. How you 2096 01:50:22.189 --> 01:50:24.750 got all these weapons and you got to spread the 2097 01:50:24.789 --> 01:50:27.729 ball around and you got to keep everybody happy. What 2098 01:50:27.770 --> 01:50:29.609 was the vibe at halftime and then in the locker 2099 01:50:29.630 --> 01:50:31.869 room after the game? Because a lot of the skilled guys, 2100 01:50:31.930 --> 01:50:33.329 a lot of these guys who've been putting in this 2101 01:50:33.390 --> 01:50:36.810 work did get the reward of actually getting touches in 2102 01:50:36.829 --> 01:50:37.229 the game. 2103 01:50:37.250 --> 01:50:40.250 And plenty of you got touchdowns in the game. 2104 01:50:40.310 --> 01:50:43.250 So probably one of those, those post game situations where 2105 01:50:43.270 --> 01:50:44.189 everyone feels pretty good. 2106 01:50:44.569 --> 01:50:45.060 Yeah. Yeah. 2107 01:50:45.069 --> 01:50:47.659 It was definitely went into the game, you know, wanting 2108 01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:51.380 to get certain people, the ball for sure. Just especially way, Sean, 2109 01:50:51.420 --> 01:50:53.760 make sure way Sean's feeling good about running the ball, 2110 01:50:53.779

--> 01:50:56.960 especially for this week coming up. And then, I mean, yeah, just, 2111 01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.640 keeps trickling down. You know, we wanted everybody to get 2112 01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:03.060 opportunity to get in the game and feel that experience. 2113 01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:05.720 So it was due to us ones to make sure 2114 01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:09.319 we made that, that gap early. So even the defensive 2115 01:51:09.340 --> 01:51:10.819 side too, that they could get in as well. 2116 01:51:10.859 --> 01:51:15.560 So a lot of, a lot of youth fans, right. 2117 01:51:15.579 --> 01:51:20.359 I've been watching this, this team for decades. And one 2118 01:51:20.380 --> 01:51:23.399 of the things that, that people always come into the 2119 01:51:23.460 --> 01:51:25.180 year and we, we've talked about this plenty as I 2120 01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:29.670 come in, Running game's going to be good. Hopefully get 2121 01:51:29.710 --> 01:51:31.739 really solid quarterback play. We think that's going to be 2122 01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:35.840 the case. And there's always this insecurity, this trepidation about 2123 01:51:35.979 --> 01:51:37.880 what the wide receiving core is going to look like. 2124 01:51:38.260 --> 01:51:41.350 There's been a lot of optimism and positivity around that position, 2125 01:51:41.850 --> 01:51:44.890 but people were still holding their breath. And then what 2126 01:51:44.930 --> 01:51:47.750 we saw from Braden, what we saw from Larry Simmons, 2127 01:51:47.810 --> 01:51:49.710 what you saw even in just a couple catches from 2128 01:51:49.750 --> 01:51:53.340 Creed Whittemore, Was that representative of kind of what you 2129 01:51:53.399 --> 01:51:56.039 expected it to be? Because you've been practicing with these guys. 2130 01:51:56.539 --> 01:51:59.699 You've been telling us, don't worry. We've got plenty of 2131 01:51:59.739 --> 01:52:02.590 talent there. And it looked like, I mean, Idaho was 2132 01:52:02.609 --> 01:52:04.729 completely overmatched, but it looked like that kind of stuff 2133 01:52:04.770 --> 01:52:07.229 is going to translate even against Arkansas. 2134 01:52:07.569 --> 01:52:07.770 Yeah. 2135 01:52:08.010 --> 01:52:08.149 Yeah. 2136 01:52:08.170 --> 01:52:11.369 I think almost everyone that caught a ball had at 2137 01:52:11.409 --> 01:52:12.829 least like two catches almost. 2138 01:52:12.869 --> 01:52:14.010 So just. 2139 01:52:14.369 --> 01:52:16.899 Yeah. Mana and Noah Benny were the only ones who 2140 01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:18.859 got a catch. Okay. Yeah. 2141 01:52:19.449 --> 01:52:22.369 Yeah, besides that, I mean, we feel very comfortable just 2142 01:52:23.229 --> 01:52:25.489 not overloading one receiver or two receivers. 2143 01:52:25.569 --> 01:52:28.689 It felt like everybody is able to make their separation. 2144 01:52:28.779 --> 01:52:31.100 We're able to call stuff depending on who the defense 2145 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:33.119 wants to give the opportunity to. 2146 01:52:33.180 --> 01:52:35.439 So, yeah, I thought those boys did a great job. 2147 01:52:37.539 --> 01:52:40.850 The number one topic of conversation between us and everyone 2148 01:52:40.970 --> 01:52:43.890 in the market has been what's the offensive line going 2149 01:52:43.909 --> 01:52:46.359 to look like? And we were told there's going to 2150 01:52:46.399 --> 01:52:49.329 be different combinations against Idaho. I don't know how many 2151 01:52:49.390 --> 01:52:52.149 guys actually played. It felt like 15 offensive linemen got 2152 01:52:52.189 --> 01:52:54.489 a few snaps, right, especially when you go down third 2153 01:52:54.510 --> 01:52:57.930 and fourth quarter. But even early, there were some different 2154 01:52:57.970 --> 01:53:01.779 combinations tested out. How did you feel about the protection? 2155 01:53:01.819 --> 01:53:04.000 How did you feel about the run blocking and just 2156 01:53:04.039 --> 01:53:05.640 the performance of that offensive line? 2157 01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:09.960 Yeah, yeah, we're still trying to finalize that, obviously, just 2158 01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:14.010 with the different groups of last week. But, yeah, I mean, 2159 01:53:14.069 --> 01:53:16.880 I feel– I don't really recognize who's in and who's 2160 01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:18.520 not just because I. 2161 01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:20.640 Don't have alignment. I need to worry about when he's in. 2162 01:53:20.659 --> 01:53:24.180 I need to do something different or exotic. I feel 2163 01:53:24.699 --> 01:53:27.239 pretty comfortable with whoever my five is up there that 2164 01:53:27.260 --> 01:53:28.640 they're going to get that job done. 2165 01:53:29.899 --> 01:53:31.489 Devin Dampier is our guest here. 2166 01:53:31.510 --> 01:53:33.529 Dishing with Dev is brought to you by Culligan Water, 2167 01:53:34.069 --> 01:53:36.989 Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, and America First Credit Union. 2168 01:53:38.930 --> 01:53:41.989 Big win over Idaho. That's kind of what we expected. 2169 01:53:42.699 --> 01:53:45.729 And it was the short week. So what were Friday 2170 01:53:45.810 --> 01:53:50.029 and Saturday like for you having played on Thursday? Just 2171 01:53:50.529 --> 01:53:53.729 it's not quite the regular season schedule when you've got 2172 01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:54.420 that early game. 2173 01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:55.979 So how did you handle those next two days? 2174 01:53:56.439 --> 01:53:57.119 Yeah. 2175 01:53:57.260 --> 01:53:59.460 You know, my family is in town, so definitely with 2176 01:53:59.500 --> 01:54:03.220 them all all weekend. I definitely got to watch a 2177 01:54:03.260 --> 01:54:06.729 lot more college football than I ever have just because. 2178 01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:09.140 We know we're normally playing on one of those days. Right. 2179 01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:09.539 Yes. 2180 01:54:09.619 --> 01:54:11.659 I don't get to watch all of the games, but yeah, 2181 01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:14.979 I was able to just literally

sit down and watch 2182 01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:16.319 all the games play by. 2183 01:54:17.460 --> 01:54:19.100 That's nice. Yeah. 2184 01:54:19.140 --> 01:54:23.560 You get to be a civilian. You get to be like, well, 2185 01:54:23.899 --> 01:54:25.609 there's one of those games I want to talk about 2186 01:54:25.649 --> 01:54:27.689 for obvious reasons here coming up. Cause it's the big 2187 01:54:27.729 --> 01:54:30.250 story in college football, but I want to stay focused 2188 01:54:30.310 --> 01:54:31.149 on the Utes for now. 2189 01:54:31.850 --> 01:54:32.890 And now you turn the page. 2190 01:54:33.500 --> 01:54:35.560 And you've got to get ready for an SEC team 2191 01:54:35.619 --> 01:54:36.970 coming into Rice-Eccles Stadium. 2192 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:38.710 That doesn't happen very often. 2193 01:54:38.750 --> 01:54:42.149 Obviously, Florida came here a couple years back, but SEC 2194 01:54:42.189 --> 01:54:46.229 teams don't go west that often. And this is an 2195 01:54:46.270 --> 01:54:49.550 Arkansas team that has some real talent on it. Now, 2196 01:54:49.670 --> 01:54:52.479 I don't think they're top of the conference, top of 2197 01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:55.100 their conference, but it's a game you have to take 2198 01:54:55.140 --> 01:54:57.359 very seriously, and there's athletes, and it's definitely going to 2199 01:54:57.380 --> 01:54:59.600 look a lot different on the opposite side of things 2200 01:54:59.659 --> 01:55:02.270 than the Idaho Vandals did. What are you seeing from 2201 01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:05.270 Arkansas so far on film? What is something that you're 2202 01:55:05.289 --> 01:55:09.590 paying attention to? I think they're a very athletic team. 2203 01:55:10.829 --> 01:55:12.050 Just the height. 2204 01:55:12.109 --> 01:55:13.989 The weight, and the way they move around. 2205 01:55:14.010 --> 01:55:20.449 They're definitely a well-polished team. It's got to be whoever 2206 01:55:20.470 --> 01:55:26.210 steps their best foot forward and. 2207 01:55:24.670 --> 01:55:27.670 Closes out that game. I'm pretty excited to get to 2208 01:55:27.710 --> 01:55:28.430 go against Arkansas. 2209 01:55:29.029 --> 01:55:31.529 Okay, there's a lot of conversation from the Arkansas side 2210 01:55:31.569 --> 01:55:33.770 of things about the kickoff time for this game. I 2211 01:55:33.789 --> 01:55:36.710 don't know if you've heard about any of this. Their 2212 01:55:36.750 --> 01:55:41.859 athletic director sent an email complaining that it was going 2213 01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:44.060 to be midnight by the time the second half started 2214 01:55:44.100 --> 01:55:46.859 for them. It's a 9.15 local time. 2215 01:55:47.020 --> 01:55:48.939 Their body clock will think it's 9 o'clock. 2216 01:55:51.489 --> 01:55:53.689 Do you care what time a game kicks off from 2217 01:55:53.770 --> 01:55:55.229 a body clock perspective? 2218 01:55:55.250 --> 01:55:56.350 Because obviously. 2219 01:55:56.939 --> 01:55:59.670 You know, Pac-12 after dark, now Big 12 after dark. 2220 01:55:59.710 --> 01:56:03.590 Sometimes you're playing until midnight, one in the morning almost. Like, 2221 01:56:03.890 --> 01:56:04.930 do you even pay attention to that? 2222 01:56:05.529 --> 01:56:06.409 No, not really. 2223 01:56:06.430 --> 01:56:11.689 I mean, we normally try to adjust the schedule to 2224 01:56:12.710 --> 01:56:15.529 make us feel like the week is normal, I guess, 2225 01:56:15.609 --> 01:56:18.829 or the game will be normal. So I don't know 2226 01:56:18.850 --> 01:56:21.189 if they don't structure it like that, but we definitely 2227 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:23.859 do everything we can to try to prepare our bodies 2228 01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:25.840 to be awake at that time, be ready to go. 2229 01:56:26.770 --> 01:56:30.000 I was actually, I'm quite surprised even like for an 2230 01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:33.060 athletic director should do those things. They should like campaign 2231 01:56:33.079 --> 01:56:35.739 for their team. Their coach was talking about it in 2232 01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:37.920 his media availability this week. Like, oh yeah, it's going 2233 01:56:37.939 --> 01:56:39.319 to be a late game for us. I'm like, this 2234 01:56:39.340 --> 01:56:42.970 is crazy. Why are you giving your players excuses? But 2235 01:56:43.529 --> 01:56:45.789 that's not my business. They can handle it however they 2236 01:56:45.829 --> 01:56:49.970 want to. So knowing that it is going to be 2237 01:56:50.189 --> 01:56:53.829 a little bit tougher on the opposite side this week, right? 2238 01:56:54.109 --> 01:56:56.180 More talented, bigger, faster, stronger. 2239 01:56:57.069 --> 01:57:01.420 Does it change how you guys are preparing, practicing, doing treatment, 2240 01:57:01.899 --> 01:57:04.500 anything like that? Does it change the Utah football routine 2241 01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:08.520 at all, knowing that it's Arkansas instead of Idaho? 2242 01:57:08.640 --> 01:57:11.000 No, I mean, you know, they run a different defense. 2243 01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:13.539 So, I mean, that's the most you're going to get 2244 01:57:13.579 --> 01:57:18.100 a different scheme from us. But, you know, besides that, 2245 01:57:18.119 --> 01:57:20.979 I think you go out there and you got to 2246 01:57:21.020 --> 01:57:22.909 be that guy when game day comes up. 2247 01:57:24.010 --> 01:57:24.430 They have. 2248 01:57:25.300 --> 01:57:30.640 One defensive end who's like, I've seen his name popping up, 2249 01:57:31.140 --> 01:57:35.079 Quincy Rhodes Jr. His name's been popping up on mock 2250 01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:38.859 drafts and things like that. When you know that there's 2251 01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:40.979 a guy like that, or maybe even a couple guys 2252 01:57:41.020 --> 01:57:44.460 like that on the opposite team, do you pay extra 2253 01:57:44.500 --> 01:57:47.100 attention in film trying to find their tendencies, trying to 2254 01:57:47.140 --> 01:57:49.199 find what their strengths are, how you can avoid

those, 2255 01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:51.520 and things like that? Do you ever hone in on 2256 01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:55.699 individual players' in an opposition, in an opposing defense. 2257 01:57:56.260 --> 01:57:56.550 Yeah. 2258 01:57:56.649 --> 01:58:00.189 I mean, you definitely respect, uh, your opponent and, you know, 2259 01:58:00.229 --> 01:58:03.550 some of those guys are very talented as well. So, um, 2260 01:58:03.710 --> 01:58:05.609 you know, you just find, you just try to find 2261 01:58:05.670 --> 01:58:09.920 ways to slow them down and make our stuff work. So, uh, 2262 01:58:10.579 --> 01:58:12.720 you know, that's our thought process when, you know, you 2263 01:58:12.739 --> 01:58:13.920 have good players on the other side. 2264 01:58:13.939 --> 01:58:16.800 All right. We were the home of the Utes. 2265 01:58:16.899 --> 01:58:20.109 We've been talking more Michigan football this week than I 2266 01:58:20.170 --> 01:58:23.329 ever wanted to because of the controversy at the end 2267 01:58:23.350 --> 01:58:26.579 of that game. I imagine for you who got to 2268 01:58:26.619 --> 01:58:29.100 be a fan for once, seeing some of that was very, 2269 01:58:29.159 --> 01:58:29.939 very different, right? 2270 01:58:29.960 --> 01:58:30.939 Because these are your friends. 2271 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.800 These are guys you were on the team with last year. 2272 01:58:33.979 --> 01:58:35.899 Like, J.J. caught the game winner. 2273 01:58:37.279 --> 01:58:39.140 What were your thoughts watching that whole thing unfold? 2274 01:58:42.270 --> 01:58:47.050 Man, well, I could tell Whit wasn't happy. I know 2275 01:58:47.090 --> 01:58:47.529 that face. 2276 01:58:49.340 --> 01:58:51.699 I have seen that man look a little displeased even 2277 01:58:51.779 --> 01:58:54.850 after wins in the past. That was the same wit 2278 01:58:55.270 --> 01:58:59.430 that you see after a loss, though. Yeah. In his mind, 2279 01:58:59.470 --> 01:59:00.409 that was not a victory. 2280 01:59:00.710 --> 01:59:02.210 The camera was on him on the sideline, and I 2281 01:59:02.250 --> 01:59:08.010 was like, he's not happy right now. Yeah, I mean, man, I. 2282 01:59:09.560 --> 01:59:13.260 Hope they come out the way they should against Oklahoma. 2283 01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:19.630 Can we block any Michigan phone numbers from contacting you 2284 01:59:19.770 --> 01:59:22.529 or bird or any, like, can we keep it from 2285 01:59:22.569 --> 01:59:25.069 the Michigan area code for being able to contact you? 2286 01:59:25.210 --> 01:59:28.850 Is that, is that something we could do? Because I 2287 01:59:28.890 --> 01:59:30.729 was talking about this and people are probably going to 2288 01:59:30.750 --> 01:59:32.899 be mad that I'm bringing this up when we're talking 2289 01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:39.649 to you, but like their quarterback completely underperformed and The 2290 01:59:39.699 --> 01:59:42.390 natural thing for me is to go, Oh, wait a second. 2291 01:59:42.789 --> 01:59:44.689 If they try to fix that problem, obviously they can't 2292 01:59:44.729 --> 01:59:46.710 do it this year, but they try to fix that problem. 2293 01:59:46.729 --> 01:59:50.369 They're going to go with somebody. They know like dev block, 2294 01:59:50.510 --> 01:59:51.869 block the Michigan numbers. 2295 01:59:51.890 --> 01:59:52.350 You know what I mean? 2296 01:59:52.670 --> 01:59:53.550 Don't go for it. 2297 01:59:53.630 --> 01:59:57.090 Don't go for it. Did you get any phone calls yet? 2298 01:59:59.189 --> 02:00:02.590 You heard it here first on the Sean O'Connell show 2299 02:00:02.949 --> 02:00:04.229 in week two, Devin has. 2300 02:00:04.170 --> 02:00:06.909 Not yet been contacted by the university of Michigan. 2301 02:00:09.010 --> 02:00:12.489 Big week also, as you guys take on Arkansas from 2302 02:00:12.510 --> 02:00:16.310 like a program history perspective, it is a ring of 2303 02:00:16.369 --> 02:00:20.130 honor inductee day, right? Eric Weddle, who is a former 2304 02:00:20.149 --> 02:00:22.970 teammate of mine, good friend of mine, a guy who's, 2305 02:00:23.250 --> 02:00:26.189 I think for a lot of people in Salt Lake City, 2306 02:00:26.229 --> 02:00:28.800 he is like the quintessential Ute. He's the guy they 2307 02:00:28.810 --> 02:00:31.180 think of when they think of Utah football in the 2308 02:00:31.220 --> 02:00:32.319 last 20 or so years. 2309 02:00:34.180 --> 02:00:34.760 What is your. 2310 02:00:35.409 --> 02:00:39.010 sense perception relationship like what is eric wettle for you 2311 02:00:39.029 --> 02:00:41.649 because you're gonna be there and watch as his name 2312 02:00:41.710 --> 02:00:43.890 goes up and is immortalized on the side of that 2313 02:00:43.909 --> 02:00:45.930 stadium yeah um you know i got. 2314 02:00:45.829 --> 02:00:49.170 To meet him uh twice um since i've been here 2315 02:00:49.229 --> 02:00:52.170 and just the conversations i've had with him he's been 2316 02:00:53.270 --> 02:00:56.229 like top knots respectful guy you know somebody you want 2317 02:00:56.250 --> 02:00:58.510 to be around for sure so i'm glad you know 2318 02:00:58.529 --> 02:01:00.590 the character adds on to what he does on the 2319 02:01:00.630 --> 02:01:02.859 field because Even I told him, I was like, I 2320 02:01:02.920 --> 02:01:04.359 knew you as the Madden safety. 2321 02:01:04.399 --> 02:01:06.819 Like I was picking the charges of what do we 2322 02:01:06.850 --> 02:01:07.350 play with you? 2323 02:01:07.369 --> 02:01:10.010 Like it was, it was kinda, he had that type 2324 02:01:10.050 --> 02:01:12.989 of aura, uh, just in NFL too. So I was 2325 02:01:13.010 --> 02:01:15.329 just like, yeah, like I have huge respect for you. Um, 2326 02:01:16.369 --> 02:01:18.189 you know, I'm happy to, I got to learn what 2327 02:01:18.210 --> 02:01:22.609 he did here, uh, being a Utah as well. So, uh, yeah, very, 2328 02:01:22.890 --> 02:01:23.750 very respected guy. 2329 02:01:24.189 --> 02:01:26.890 As, as Morgan

showed you guys, any Eric Weddle film 2330 02:01:27.069 --> 02:01:28.890 in the Utah uniform, has that been part of the 2331 02:01:28.949 --> 02:01:29.609 week or anything? 2332 02:01:30.189 --> 02:01:31.729 No, we haven't got to see it yet. We haven't 2333 02:01:31.750 --> 02:01:32.350 got to see it yet. 2334 02:01:32.600 --> 02:01:34.399 Morgan coach Scali. 2335 02:01:34.479 --> 02:01:36.939 That's something you got to let these young bucks know 2336 02:01:37.340 --> 02:01:41.039 what your former teammate was all about. He was, I mean, 2337 02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:43.239 you got, you have some of these guys on the 2338 02:01:43.279 --> 02:01:45.859 roster right now. I mean, you're probably one of these 2339 02:01:45.899 --> 02:01:48.880 guys yourself. Like you could line Eric Whittle up and 2340 02:01:48.899 --> 02:01:50.970 have him play a couple of downs at quarterback. They 2341 02:01:50.989 --> 02:01:52.710 put him in the wildcat all the time, right? 2342 02:01:53.489 --> 02:01:55.789 He was the holder. He could throw passes. He could 2343 02:01:55.829 --> 02:01:57.529 catch passes. He could run for touchdowns. 2344 02:01:57.770 --> 02:02:00.779 And obviously he was an all American defender for his 2345 02:02:00.819 --> 02:02:03.479 entire time at the university of Utah. So you got 2346 02:02:03.500 --> 02:02:05.060 a couple of guys like that on the roster. Now, 2347 02:02:05.600 --> 02:02:07.859 when we're talking about, you know, the guys who are 2348 02:02:07.899 --> 02:02:09.779 great at their position and then the guys who are 2349 02:02:09.819 --> 02:02:13.939 just great at football, does that, does that carry a 2350 02:02:13.979 --> 02:02:15.260 different weight in the locker room? 2351 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:17.180 When you're like, I could be anywhere. You can put 2352 02:02:17.199 --> 02:02:18.220 them in any position. It'd be great. 2353 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:25.359 Yeah, no, I think, besides quarterback probably or O-line, like 2354 02:02:26.680 --> 02:02:29.100 if you can add, because Scali always talks about it, 2355 02:02:29.100 --> 02:02:30.859 if you can add value to yourself, if you can 2356 02:02:30.939 --> 02:02:33.960 be a football guy and you could get placed anywhere 2357 02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:37.310 and honestly like be able to talk and do what 2358 02:02:37.350 --> 02:02:39.189 you need to do, like that's what's going to get 2359 02:02:39.210 --> 02:02:42.750 you to the next level because, you know, everyone's looking 2360 02:02:42.770 --> 02:02:45.529 for someone to be more valuable than just playing their position. 2361 02:02:45.590 --> 02:02:47.430 So it's definitely preaching. 2362 02:02:47.470 --> 02:02:49.489 It's good to know that, you know, your guys are, 2363 02:02:50.180 --> 02:02:53.100 they're so football into it that they're able to do 2364 02:02:53.140 --> 02:02:55.180 that and step up to different positions. 2365 02:02:56.159 --> 02:02:58.819 Uh, is there anyone, cause everyone kind of got a 2366 02:02:58.859 --> 02:03:01.829 little bit of love offensively in this game, in this 2367 02:03:01.869 --> 02:03:04.489 game against Idaho. Is there anyone that you're like, all right, 2368 02:03:04.510 --> 02:03:06.930 let's get him the ball a little bit more against Arkansas. 2369 02:03:06.970 --> 02:03:09.430 Is there anyone that you, you want to see, you know, 2370 02:03:09.590 --> 02:03:11.590 Mack G who we're going to be talking to also 2371 02:03:11.630 --> 02:03:15.569 this week, uh, design a couple of touches for, so 2372 02:03:15.590 --> 02:03:18.010 that you can, the rest of us can see what 2373 02:03:18.029 --> 02:03:18.529 they've been doing. 2374 02:03:19.449 --> 02:03:24.699 Um, Man, I mean, obviously the receiver core, I want 2375 02:03:25.260 --> 02:03:27.220 them to be able to shine, you know, against anybody 2376 02:03:27.260 --> 02:03:28.779 we play against. I don't want it to just be 2377 02:03:28.819 --> 02:03:31.039 an Idaho fluke. You know, I want those guys to 2378 02:03:31.340 --> 02:03:35.050 shine any time we need them. And I think Wayshawn's 2379 02:03:35.060 --> 02:03:38.289 pretty passionate about getting to his 100 yards this game, too. 2380 02:03:38.369 --> 02:03:40.550 So you should be able to see that from him. 2381 02:03:41.170 --> 02:03:45.890 It was interesting, Wayshawn, in the post-practice media availability this week, 2382 02:03:45.930 --> 02:03:48.430 you know, he was praised for not only making an 2383 02:03:48.510 --> 02:03:51.399 impact in the run game, which... We expect him to 2384 02:03:51.439 --> 02:03:56.260 every week, but he was obviously valuable catching passes as well. 2385 02:03:56.319 --> 02:03:58.859 Two touchdown catches in that game. And he kind of 2386 02:03:58.899 --> 02:04:00.609 laughed and said, that's just a little bit of what 2387 02:04:00.649 --> 02:04:02.850 I can do in the passing game. You're going to 2388 02:04:02.890 --> 02:04:06.010 see a lot more. He's hinting at, you know, more 2389 02:04:06.050 --> 02:04:08.609 way Sean as a pass catcher. Is that something you 2390 02:04:08.630 --> 02:04:11.409 guys expect as the season wages on? 2391 02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:15.989 Yeah, no, for sure. We expect waste on the, You know, 2392 02:04:16.029 --> 02:04:19.010 it's just the matchup things. You know, normally they want 2393 02:04:19.050 --> 02:04:22.529 linebackers to guard running backs. And, you know, for us, 2394 02:04:22.569 --> 02:04:25.270 that's like, wait, Sean, do what you do, because I 2395 02:04:25.300 --> 02:04:27.960 don't think I wouldn't take any linebacker over guard you. 2396 02:04:28.500 --> 02:04:30.399 So, you know, normally you can get in those type 2397 02:04:30.439 --> 02:04:32.539 of things or even. 2398 02:04:32.579 --> 02:04:35.220 Yeah, he's he was a big check down piece this 2399 02:04:35.279 --> 02:04:37.239 last game where I'm able to give him a check down. 2400 02:04:37.279 --> 02:04:39.840 He takes it for eight, 10 yards like that's huge 2401

02:04:39.859 --> 02:04:41.020 for an offensive play. 2402 02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:46.159 You and bird, we've talked a lot about this, the 2403 02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:50.060 unique nature of your relationship, the fact that you seem 2404 02:04:50.140 --> 02:04:52.859 happy to share the ball and happy to share the 2405 02:04:52.899 --> 02:04:55.659 position a little bit. He played great. He had a 2406 02:04:55.680 --> 02:04:58.300 big impact on this game. You played great, had a 2407 02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:02.100 huge impact on this game. Tell me what, you know, 2408 02:05:02.159 --> 02:05:04.640 how bird graded out, how you guys evaluated each other 2409 02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:06.539 and how you're pushing each other to get better after 2410 02:05:06.600 --> 02:05:07.500 now live action. 2411 02:05:08.140 --> 02:05:08.380 Yeah. 2412 02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:12.930 Um, Yeah, so Bird's like the playmaker. He's the playmaker 2413 02:05:13.770 --> 02:05:17.380 in our offense. So he's trying to find the ways 2414 02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:22.560 to continue to get better at the playmaker stuff we 2415 02:05:22.600 --> 02:05:25.859 put him into, but also developing as a quarterback too. So, 2416 02:05:27.319 --> 02:05:29.060 you know, I give him kudos for being able to 2417 02:05:29.100 --> 02:05:31.979 handle both of those at the same time because that's 2418 02:05:32.000 --> 02:05:35.819 hard to do, especially in college. So, yeah, just the 2419 02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:38.770 type of playmaker he is, though, we definitely try to, 2420 02:05:39.239 --> 02:05:40.779 get him on the field as much as possible and 2421 02:05:40.800 --> 02:05:41.960 make sure he's touching the ball. 2422 02:05:42.960 --> 02:05:45.899 He had that one throw rolling to his right. 2423 02:05:45.960 --> 02:05:50.180 He's left-handed and beautiful, accurate pass kind of, you know, 2424 02:05:50.220 --> 02:05:52.680 twist the body. It went a little bit viral, not 2425 02:05:52.739 --> 02:05:56.520 like crazy viral, but people were talking about that throw. 2426 02:05:57.420 --> 02:06:00.060 When something like that happens, when you're on the sideline 2427 02:06:00.100 --> 02:06:02.659 and you see that pass, and then of course you're 2428 02:06:02.680 --> 02:06:03.920 in the film room and you see that, I mean, 2429 02:06:03.939 --> 02:06:05.500 that's a, it's a special play. 2430 02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:05.720 Yeah. 2431 02:06:06.500 --> 02:06:08.560 What was your reaction in the moment? And then, you know, 2432 02:06:09.439 --> 02:06:10.479 the conversation after. 2433 02:06:10.979 --> 02:06:11.279 Yeah. 2434 02:06:11.479 --> 02:06:14.149 It's, it's funny that like, that's just something, you know, we, 2435 02:06:14.250 --> 02:06:18.909 we do daily practice. Like we practice that coach Gundy 2436 02:06:18.949 --> 02:06:21.229 has us do that throw like almost every day. So like, 2437 02:06:22.399 --> 02:06:24.100 even for him, like we thought it was just like 2438 02:06:24.140 --> 02:06:26.500 a normal throw. Like we were just like, Oh yeah, 2439 02:06:26.539 --> 02:06:29.180 we do that. And then for the public to see it, 2440 02:06:29.180 --> 02:06:34.350 we're like, ah, not that. So, but yeah, it was, uh, 2441 02:06:34.550 --> 02:06:36.109 it was cool to see him make that throw. That's, 2442 02:06:36.529 --> 02:06:39.729 It's definitely a unique throw in the situation, and he 2443 02:06:39.770 --> 02:06:40.779 made the best of it for sure. 2444 02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:45.359 Big win over Idaho. 2445 02:06:46.300 --> 02:06:49.100 Everyone in the Big 12 that played kind of lesser 2446 02:06:49.140 --> 02:06:52.739 competition handled that lesser competition. And we were joking when 2447 02:06:52.779 --> 02:06:55.649 you walked in about how already the rivalry is in 2448 02:06:55.710 --> 02:06:56.689 full swing, right? 2449 02:06:56.729 --> 02:06:59.810 Like being a fan and being able to watch. 2450 02:06:59.630 --> 02:07:02.489 College football this weekend, did you watch, I don't know, 2451 02:07:02.510 --> 02:07:04.289 like Texas Tech extra close? 2452 02:07:04.310 --> 02:07:06.069 Did you watch BYU extra close? 2453 02:07:06.609 --> 02:07:09.000 Did you select the games that you were going to 2454 02:07:09.039 --> 02:07:11.439 watch based on teams you're going to be playing or 2455 02:07:11.460 --> 02:07:14.680 just who you were curious about? How did you choose 2456 02:07:14.720 --> 02:07:19.359 your viewership this weekend as a fan? Yeah, I think 2457 02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:21.539 I had three games going at once. 2458 02:07:21.760 --> 02:07:22.000 Nice. 2459 02:07:22.479 --> 02:07:26.920 So on three different screens to lose this. I had 2460 02:07:27.180 --> 02:07:30.640 at least. The game, I knew that was going to 2461 02:07:30.680 --> 02:07:31.319 be a good game. 2462 02:07:31.380 --> 02:07:33.640 I had that in the middle, and then I had, like, 2463 02:07:33.699 --> 02:07:36.640 the curiosities just kind of switching between the other ones 2464 02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:39.529 of who I felt like watching at the time and 2465 02:07:40.829 --> 02:07:44.050 whose score was a little bit closer and stuff like that. But, yeah, 2466 02:07:44.350 --> 02:07:47.029 I feel like I watched probably every single game that 2467 02:07:47.069 --> 02:07:47.510 was played. 2468 02:07:48.569 --> 02:07:51.250 Did anybody in the Big 12, did anything, like, stick 2469 02:07:51.329 --> 02:07:51.850 out for you? 2470 02:07:51.890 --> 02:07:54.100 Was there anything that you're like, oh, okay, I didn't 2471 02:07:54.109 --> 02:07:56.479 know about that team looking that good or they didn't 2472 02:07:56.500 --> 02:07:57.939 look as good as I thought they would? 2473 02:07:58.800 --> 02:08:02.539 There's, you know, mixed results. I thought you played on 2474 02:08:02.579 --> 02:08:03.079 the same night. 2475 02:08:03.119 --> 02:08:05.920 So we could watch the Colorado game, Colorado beat in 2476 02:08:05.939 --> 02:08:08.000 Georgia tech on that

block field goal. That was that 2477 02:08:08.020 --> 02:08:11.060 surprised me because Georgia tech was a really physical team 2478 02:08:11.079 --> 02:08:12.560 last year. I don't think Colorado is going to be 2479 02:08:12.579 --> 02:08:14.350 able to keep pace with that. That was a good 2480 02:08:14.390 --> 02:08:17.869 win for the conference. Anything else like from at least 2481 02:08:17.930 --> 02:08:19.689 a big 12 perspective, jump out at you this week. 2482 02:08:20.670 --> 02:08:24.850 Um, I mean, not in a disrespectful way. I just 2483 02:08:24.899 --> 02:08:27.840 expected more out of Oklahoma state. Just the way that 2484 02:08:27.859 --> 02:08:30.699 was talked about. I was definitely expecting a little bit more. 2485 02:08:30.960 --> 02:08:33.319 I think all of us were, and I, we were 2486 02:08:33.399 --> 02:08:36.380 skeptical that, you know, everyone was like, Oh, this is 2487 02:08:36.420 --> 02:08:39.319 the team. Uh, drew mess to maker respect to him. 2488 02:08:39.409 --> 02:08:42.449 Cause we all love guys that come from like a 2489 02:08:42.670 --> 02:08:43.529 slightly lower level. 2490 02:08:43.569 --> 02:08:43.829 Sure. 2491 02:08:44.130 --> 02:08:45.029 I came that same way. 2492 02:08:45.069 --> 02:08:45.550 Exactly. 2493 02:08:45.609 --> 02:08:47.569 Right. Like I, I know there's a lot of really 2494 02:08:47.609 --> 02:08:50.069 good guys, uh, that got under-recruited out of high school 2495 02:08:50.090 --> 02:08:53.140 and stuff. People were talking about Drew Mestemaker like he's 2496 02:08:53.180 --> 02:08:55.560 the best quarterback in the Big 12 conference now. 2497 02:08:56.199 --> 02:08:57.920 And we've kind of been like, well, hold on a minute. 2498 02:08:57.979 --> 02:09:00.319 There's a bunch of guys that are already a little 2499 02:09:00.340 --> 02:09:03.000 bit more proven than that. But he didn't have his 2500 02:09:03.060 --> 02:09:05.500 best day. They didn't have their best day. 24-10 loss 2501 02:09:06.060 --> 02:09:06.930 for Oklahoma State. 2502 02:09:08.449 --> 02:09:08.750 Okay. 2503 02:09:09.890 --> 02:09:12.130 I got mad about the Baylor game because that's Big 2504 02:09:12.130 --> 02:09:13.489 12 versus SEC. 2505 02:09:14.050 --> 02:09:14.229 Yeah. 2506 02:09:15.310 --> 02:09:17.170 I love Dave Aranda. Dave Aranda. 2507 02:09:17.869 --> 02:09:22.210 went for the win instead of playing for overtime. I 2508 02:09:23.140 --> 02:09:25.399 know that that's something you got to do. You got 2509 02:09:25.420 --> 02:09:28.239 to make that decision as a head coach. They get stopped. 2510 02:09:28.300 --> 02:09:31.300 Beautiful tackle at the goal line by an Auburn defender. 2511 02:09:31.340 --> 02:09:34.319 They get stopped just short. And I guess you got 2512 02:09:34.359 --> 02:09:36.979 to live with that because one person executed better than 2513 02:09:37.020 --> 02:09:39.939 you executed. But I wanted to see that game go 2514 02:09:39.979 --> 02:09:41.520 to overtime. I thought that Baylor

was going to be 2515 02:09:41.550 --> 02:09:45.130 able to win it. You're the starting quarterback. 2516 02:09:45.670 --> 02:09:48.159 Your coach is like, We're going to play for overtime, 2517 02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:49.619 or we're going to go for the win right now. 2518 02:09:49.800 --> 02:09:50.359 What do you prefer? 2519 02:09:51.619 --> 02:09:53.539 I would have went for the win, too. 2520 02:09:54.779 --> 02:09:57.300 I think it was the right call. I honestly think 2521 02:09:57.720 --> 02:10:00.159 he was open, too. I think the quarterback left it 2522 02:10:00.380 --> 02:10:06.319 behind him just slightly. He couldn't really get in position 2523 02:10:06.340 --> 02:10:10.600 to at least run in there. That's a good tackle. 2524 02:10:10.619 --> 02:10:13.710 That's a good way to make up him being. 2525 02:10:13.590 --> 02:10:14.090 Open, too. 2526 02:10:14.869 --> 02:10:19.770 There's something about I trust myself to get that situation 2527 02:10:19.810 --> 02:10:21.930 done when it comes to winning that game. 2528 02:10:22.130 --> 02:10:23.729 Even as I ask that question, I'm like, why am 2529 02:10:23.770 --> 02:10:26.449 I asking this question? Of course, we know Dev well 2530 02:10:26.489 --> 02:10:28.729 enough now to be like, he wants to be aggressive. 2531 02:10:28.750 --> 02:10:30.529 That's why we let the coaches make the decisions. 2532 02:10:30.550 --> 02:10:32.350 He wants to go for the win. 2533 02:10:33.760 --> 02:10:37.279 Yeah, that one I was like, dang, Baylor, we needed 2534 02:10:37.300 --> 02:10:40.899 that one for the Big 12 conference. But now you 2535 02:10:40.939 --> 02:10:44.880 roll forward, week two, Arkansas, and now it'll be Utah 2536 02:10:45.000 --> 02:10:49.239 with a win over an SEC team. Do you feel 2537 02:10:49.359 --> 02:10:52.789 any kind of, any certain type of way about the 2538 02:10:52.829 --> 02:10:55.369 fact that it is an SEC squad? Is there any, 2539 02:10:55.970 --> 02:10:59.310 we want to prove to people that, you know, the 2540 02:10:59.350 --> 02:11:01.069 Big 12 and the SEC are at least on equal 2541 02:11:01.090 --> 02:11:01.510 footing here? 2542 02:11:03.010 --> 02:11:07.829 I mean, conference-wise, no. But, I mean, just us as 2543 02:11:07.909 --> 02:11:12.159 a team, our goal is to go undefeated. So this 2544 02:11:12.239 --> 02:11:15.500 is just the next game that's in our way of 2545 02:11:15.560 --> 02:11:17.699 doing that. So this is the game that we just. 2546 02:11:18.510 --> 02:11:19.649 We've got to do what we've got to do to 2547 02:11:20.010 --> 02:11:22.329 make sure we're putting ourselves in the best position to 2548 02:11:22.350 --> 02:11:22.850 make playoffs. 2549 02:11:23.529 --> 02:11:25.770 We've talked about this before with Devin Dampier. 2550 02:11:26.149 --> 02:11:28.449 QB1, Dishing with Devin, brought to you by Culligan Water, 2551 02:11:28.489 --> 02:11:31.010 Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, and America First Credit Union. 2552 02:11:32.850 --> 02:11:34.970 A lot of people are excited this week NFL kicks off. 2553 02:11:36.029 --> 02:11:38.899 The NFL, you watch players rather than teams. 2554 02:11:39.380 --> 02:11:41.779 Yep. Kind of weird. 2555 02:11:43.260 --> 02:11:44.859 It's kind of weird you don't have an NFL team. 2556 02:11:46.060 --> 02:11:46.229 I do. 2557 02:11:47.170 --> 02:11:51.149 It's hard because I was born in Minnesota, so I 2558 02:11:51.170 --> 02:11:52.609 was somewhat raised around the Vikings. 2559 02:11:53.479 --> 02:11:55.819 Then I went to Arizona. Then Kyler Murray came. 2560 02:11:56.439 --> 02:12:01.840 Then I became a Cardinal fan. You get the Lamars. 2561 02:12:01.859 --> 02:12:05.779 You get the Mahomes. You get the Baker Mayfields. I 2562 02:12:05.819 --> 02:12:10.270 grew up watching Aaron Rodgers. There's so many different players 2563 02:12:10.649 --> 02:12:14.189 I respect to a level where I'm like, I can 2564 02:12:14.210 --> 02:12:16.930 never just pick a team because players motivate me. 2565 02:12:16.869 --> 02:12:18.989 To watch, watch the game. I think we got to 2566 02:12:19.010 --> 02:12:20.489 the bottom of it because. 2567 02:12:21.689 --> 02:12:24.109 The Vikings and the Cardinals being the two teams that 2568 02:12:24.140 --> 02:12:26.539 you can attach yourself to two teams that have. 2569 02:12:26.399 --> 02:12:29.380 Never really won anything. So that, that might be the problem. 2570 02:12:29.420 --> 02:12:32.779 Hey, they were solid when they had Randy Moss. 2571 02:12:33.079 --> 02:12:33.659 They've been good. 2572 02:12:33.680 --> 02:12:36.399 They've been almost at AP, the Vikings. 2573 02:12:36.619 --> 02:12:40.420 They've been Oh, so close. The Vikings many, many, many times. Yeah. 2574 02:12:40.539 --> 02:12:44.140 But they've never actually won Superbowl. So I get it. 2575 02:12:44.220 --> 02:12:46.300 And Arizona, you know, that's its own animal. 2576 02:12:46.470 --> 02:12:46.970 For sure. 2577 02:12:47.590 --> 02:12:47.920 I get it. 2578 02:12:48.470 --> 02:12:52.609 Now I realize why. The team allegiance has never treated 2579 02:12:52.630 --> 02:12:55.210 you kindly. So now you're just attached to players. 2580 02:12:55.970 --> 02:12:56.470 That's fair. 2581 02:12:57.609 --> 02:13:01.369 We can go with that. We can go with that. 2582 02:13:01.409 --> 02:13:03.329 It's always great having you come in. I appreciate you 2583 02:13:03.369 --> 02:13:04.069 giving us time. 2584 02:13:05.180 --> 02:13:07.439 You're healthy. You feel good. Everything's right. 2585 02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:10.340 Just a final message for Utah fans ahead of an 2586 02:13:10.399 --> 02:13:11.159 Arkansas game. 2587 02:13:11.899 --> 02:13:15.729 Rice Eccles. For real, for real, night game, we expect 2588 02:13:15.770 --> 02:13:16.909 the atmosphere to be rocking. 2589 02:13:17.180 --> 02:13:22.039 Yeah, because, I mean, even other teams say when they 2590 02:13:22.060 --> 02:13:25.500 play at Utah and it's dark outside, it's the truth. 2591

02:13:25.600 --> 02:13:26.930 So fans, bring it. 2592 02:13:27.760 --> 02:13:29.560 Do you know what the uniform combination is yet? 2593 02:13:30.340 --> 02:13:32.039 Because you guys, you get to help pick it, right? 2594 02:13:32.140 --> 02:13:33.619 Yeah, it's a red out, isn't it? 2595 02:13:34.399 --> 02:13:35.020 Is that the plan? 2596 02:13:35.050 --> 02:13:35.779 I'm pretty sure it's a red out. 2597 02:13:35.789 --> 02:13:38.090 I think it is the plan. No, you're absolutely right. 2598 02:13:38.130 --> 02:13:40.130 I think that is the plan because we were talking 2599 02:13:40.149 --> 02:13:45.159 about that earlier in the summer when When they sent out, 2600 02:13:45.180 --> 02:13:49.239 they announced sort of the fan schedule or whatever. I 2601 02:13:49.279 --> 02:13:51.859 think the red out, because I was like, that's how 2602 02:13:51.920 --> 02:13:52.619 Weddle would want it. 2603 02:13:53.060 --> 02:13:54.420 And that's his day. 2604 02:13:54.579 --> 02:13:57.859 Yeah, red out. We should be wearing red. I couldn't 2605 02:13:57.930 --> 02:13:58.960 imagine we have red out now. 2606 02:13:59.010 --> 02:14:01.250 Have you talked to the younger Weddle yet? 2607 02:14:01.289 --> 02:14:04.789 Have you had any contact with Gage, who, of course, 2608 02:14:04.869 --> 02:14:06.770 is being recruited by everybody in the country? 2609 02:14:07.010 --> 02:14:11.869 Yeah, Gage made it out. He had his visit through us, 2610 02:14:11.970 --> 02:14:14.720 and yeah, he was able to. I forget what time 2611 02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:16.840 period it was, but, yeah, just in our quarterback meeting. 2612 02:14:17.840 --> 02:14:19.920 He was chilling. We all showed up to him, and 2613 02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:21.119 then he got to watch us practice. 2614 02:14:22.260 --> 02:14:24.689 He also plays the quarterback position, so he probably is 2615 02:14:24.729 --> 02:14:28.189 watching guys like you because dual threat for sure. 2616 02:14:28.289 --> 02:14:29.369 He's an athlete like you are. 2617 02:14:29.510 --> 02:14:31.789 Yeah, yeah. I'm excited for Gage. 2618 02:14:32.510 --> 02:14:36.069 Hopefully we can get him in a Utah uniform someday. 2619 02:14:37.109 --> 02:14:40.220 Dev, great seeing you, man. Good luck. Stay healthy. Have 2620 02:14:40.239 --> 02:14:41.619 a great game. We'll see you Saturday night. 2621 02:14:41.640 --> 02:14:42.369 Appreciate it. 2622 02:14:42.850 --> 02:14:47.060 David Dampier, QB number one, edition with Dev, brought to 2623 02:14:47.079 --> 02:14:51.340 you by Culligan Water, Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, and 2624 02:14:51.380 --> 02:14:54.920 America First Credit Union, every single week here on the 2625 02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:55.840 Sean O'Connell Show. 2626 02:14:56.060 --> 02:14:58.359 Lots left to get to. Don't go anywhere. ESPN 700, 92.1 FM. 2627 02:14:58.380 --> 02:14:59.359 The world is, the world is not. 2628 02:15:00.859 --> 02:15:07.590 You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch 2629 02:15:07.649 --> 02:15:10.210 Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 2630 02:15:18.010 --> 02:15:22.000 All right, marching toward the end of the Sean O'Connell 2631 02:15:22.020 --> 02:15:25.640 Show today, we are at Southern Steer Butcher, 1705 North 2632 02:15:25.699 --> 02:15:28.279 Redwood Road, Saratoga Springs in Utah. 2633 02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:31.760 And if I sound a little weepy, it's because Dan 2634 02:15:31.800 --> 02:15:34.770 has gifted me with something we've been talking about all day. 2635 02:15:34.930 --> 02:15:37.510 I have in my hands, which you can't see because 2636 02:15:37.529 --> 02:15:39.210 we're not on camera today, I have in my hands 2637 02:15:40.430 --> 02:15:42.909 one of the legendary armadillo eggs of Southern Steer. 2638 02:15:42.930 --> 02:15:45.260 Dan, thank you for the hookup. I appreciate you very, 2639 02:15:45.300 --> 02:15:45.689 very much. 2640 02:15:47.460 --> 02:15:52.899 This thing is a jalapeno popper wrapped in sausage. 2641 02:15:52.819 --> 02:15:53.920 And then wrapped in bacon. 2642 02:15:54.539 --> 02:15:56.119 That's it? Yeah. 2643 02:15:56.430 --> 02:15:59.050 I can't wait to crack into this thing. Yeah. 2644 02:15:59.439 --> 02:16:01.710 And before we get out of here, we're going to 2645 02:16:01.750 --> 02:16:04.409 make sure we check out. I had more samples of 2646 02:16:04.430 --> 02:16:07.250 the steak tips. I hope you don't have a hard 2647 02:16:07.310 --> 02:16:09.770 policy on how many samples people are supposed to take. 2648 02:16:09.949 --> 02:16:10.689 Yeah, no, we're good. 2649 02:16:10.890 --> 02:16:12.850 I've definitely violated that policy today. 2650 02:16:13.850 --> 02:16:15.430 But over there on the sample table, you've got some 2651 02:16:15.449 --> 02:16:16.270 of the other stuff, right? 2652 02:16:16.289 --> 02:16:19.359 You've got the olive oils and the balsamics and the 2653 02:16:19.420 --> 02:16:23.039 bread to dip it in. You've got some exotic honeys 2654 02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:25.479 over there. You really have kind of like a gourmet 2655 02:16:25.520 --> 02:16:27.319 food shop, not just a butcher. 2656 02:16:27.859 --> 02:16:30.260 Yeah, the balsamics and the olive oil are from a 2657 02:16:30.300 --> 02:16:34.120 local Utah company as well as the Amarita's honey. You know, 2658 02:16:34.139 --> 02:16:36.670 like I said, my wife, Aubrey, who's here in the 2659 02:16:36.680 --> 02:16:40.030 store today with us, she's done a terrific job, you know, 2660 02:16:40.129 --> 02:16:44.209 sourcing local vendors, going to farmers markets and picking out really, 2661 02:16:44.790 --> 02:16:47.649 you know, great stuff that we can, you know, showcase 2662 02:16:47.690 --> 02:16:50.909 here in the store. You know, we even have some, 2663 02:16:50.930 --> 02:16:54.760 you know, hot sauces that are locally produced that, you know, 2664 02:16:54.799 --> 02:16:57.940 have some kind of unique flavors to them. You know, 2665 02:16:58.440 --> 02:17:02.020 pineapple scotch

bonnet. You name it. 2666 02:17:04.219 --> 02:17:06.459 You also have your daily rewards program. I see the 2667 02:17:06.479 --> 02:17:08.059 video board, the menu over there. 2668 02:17:08.159 --> 02:17:12.440 You've got discounts on different things Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 2669 02:17:12.700 --> 02:17:13.450 all the way through Friday. 2670 02:17:13.750 --> 02:17:13.950 Right. 2671 02:17:14.149 --> 02:17:16.250 Every day of the week you come in, you know, 2672 02:17:16.270 --> 02:17:19.549 we put your phone number in the system. You know, 2673 02:17:19.690 --> 02:17:23.389 when you come in every day there is a discounted special. 2674 02:17:23.920 --> 02:17:26.260 You know, tomorrow's a great day, especially for weekends, because 2675 02:17:26.319 --> 02:17:30.659 all of our cool appetizers, bacon-wrapped shrimp, stuffed mushrooms, our 2676 02:17:30.700 --> 02:17:34.280 jalapeno poppers, even our jerky. We didn't even talk about 2677 02:17:34.299 --> 02:17:34.479 our jerky. 2678 02:17:34.500 --> 02:17:36.229 We haven't talked about the jerky. I saw that over 2679 02:17:36.260 --> 02:17:37.569 in the butcher case also, yeah. 2680 02:17:37.579 --> 02:17:42.250 Yeah, so our jerky comes from the same smokehouse that 2681 02:17:43.170 --> 02:17:45.590 provides their jerky to Buc-ee's. If you've ever been back 2682 02:17:45.670 --> 02:17:47.809 east on a road trip, you stop at a Bucky's 2683 02:17:47.870 --> 02:17:51.110 rest stop, they've got a wall of jerky. They're famous 2684 02:17:51.170 --> 02:17:57.459 for their jerky. Southern Steer has been really forward-thinking in 2685 02:17:57.520 --> 02:18:01.600 terms of sourcing their products, right? The cattle and pork 2686 02:18:01.639 --> 02:18:04.579 and all that. But we also now get our jerky 2687 02:18:04.680 --> 02:18:08.059 from the same exact smokehouse and production facility as the 2688 02:18:08.120 --> 02:18:11.600 Bucky's rest stops do. So Our jerky's phenomenal. Come in 2689 02:18:11.659 --> 02:18:13.639 and try it. We'll even give you a free piece 2690 02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:14.479 of jerky for sure. 2691 02:18:14.780 --> 02:18:17.520 I saw, and I was ogling everything in the store 2692 02:18:17.559 --> 02:18:20.459 while we played the Devin Dampier interview, the Dishing with 2693 02:18:20.500 --> 02:18:24.100 Deb segment, and I went and took a gander inside 2694 02:18:24.120 --> 02:18:27.170 the dry-aged locker, and you got some tomahawks in there. 2695 02:18:27.190 --> 02:18:29.569 It looks like maybe some prime ribs or whatever in there. 2696 02:18:30.270 --> 02:18:32.129 And is that tallow? They're slathered with tallow? 2697 02:18:32.190 --> 02:18:35.909 Yeah, it's funny. Basically, when you dry-age meat, you want 2698 02:18:35.930 --> 02:18:39.649 to basically take– you know, a whiskey or a bourbon. 2699 02:18:39.670 --> 02:18:42.430 And you just kind of coat the outside basically to, 2700 02:18:42.659 --> 02:18:45.700 you know, sterilize anything that might be on

the meat. 2701 02:18:45.739 --> 02:18:48.260 And then you coat it in tallow and you hang 2702 02:18:48.299 --> 02:18:51.379 it in this, basically it's a locker or, you know, 2703 02:18:51.700 --> 02:18:55.299 some butchers have like entire rooms that are dry age room, 2704 02:18:55.319 --> 02:18:59.819 but it's humidified or humidity controlled and temperature controlled so 2705 02:18:59.879 --> 02:19:04.520 that it basically will slowly dry age the meat. And 2706 02:19:04.559 --> 02:19:09.489 it basically takes that, meat flavor and accentuates it and 2707 02:19:10.010 --> 02:19:13.170 allows it to tenderize over time so if. 2708 02:19:13.170 --> 02:19:17.690 You want a like expensive steakhouse quality steak they can 2709 02:19:17.709 --> 02:19:20.059 hook you up with that down here at southern steer 2710 02:19:20.090 --> 02:19:22.079 if you just want some dogs and some burgers you 2711 02:19:22.100 --> 02:19:24.840 can throw on the grill for a quick barbecue they 2712 02:19:24.860 --> 02:19:27.360 can take care of that everything in between on that 2713 02:19:27.420 --> 02:19:30.780 entire gourmet meat to just like let me get something 2714 02:19:30.840 --> 02:19:34.049 in my kids mouths for the family you really that 2715 02:19:34.069 --> 02:19:36.500 whole spectrum is covered down here When it comes to 2716 02:19:36.540 --> 02:19:41.180 Southern Steer Butcher, and it's all clean, hormone-free, antibiotics, like 2717 02:19:41.340 --> 02:19:44.719 all the chemicals that we're worried about going into people's bodies, 2718 02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.420 you guys get the meat from the cleanest, most ethical sources. 2719 02:19:49.100 --> 02:19:52.120 Yeah, you bet. If you've never tried a Wagyu hot dog, 2720 02:19:52.360 --> 02:19:55.450 that's another recommendation, right? I mean, you know, you get 2721 02:19:55.469 --> 02:19:57.870 your really good all-beef hot dogs that are terrific on 2722 02:19:57.889 --> 02:20:01.530 the grill, but a Wagyu hot dog is something completely different. 2723 02:20:01.850 --> 02:20:03.489 It's a melt-in-your-mouth type hot dog. 2724 02:20:04.350 --> 02:20:07.159 I saw our guy, our sales guy, Chad's sitting over there. 2725 02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:10.420 He's guarding his Wagyu steak that you gave him. I 2726 02:20:11.700 --> 02:20:14.159 might try and steal that before we get out of here. 2727 02:20:14.180 --> 02:20:16.860 Chad's always talking trash about the Seattle Seahawks and my 2728 02:20:16.899 --> 02:20:22.340 San Francisco 49ers. Big weekend coming up. Utah, BYU both 2729 02:20:22.399 --> 02:20:26.389 in action. Full slate returning in the NFL. Perfect time 2730 02:20:26.420 --> 02:20:28.170 to come down to Southern Steer, grab the meats for the. 2731 02:20:28.149 --> 02:20:28.750 Barbecue, right? 2732 02:20:28.909 --> 02:20:30.389 Yeah, go Utes. Let's go. 2733 02:20:30.569 --> 02:20:32.610 Let's go. You going to go to the game? 2734 02:20:32.989 --> 02:20:34.629 Yes, of course. Season ticket holder. 2735 02:20:34.750 --> 02:20:35.129 Of course. 2736 02:20:35.909 --> 02:20:38.209 My tailgate partner is roasting a razorback. 2737 02:20:38.350 --> 02:20:38.989 A pig, I guess. 2738 02:20:39.370 --> 02:20:40.010 Right? 2739 02:20:40.290 --> 02:20:41.350 Nice. 2740 02:20:41.569 --> 02:20:43.829 We're going to do it up for taking care of 2741 02:20:43.879 --> 02:20:44.270 the hogs. 2742 02:20:44.500 --> 02:20:45.090 I like that. 2743 02:20:46.299 --> 02:20:47.840 Before I leave, I'm going to have to find your 2744 02:20:47.879 --> 02:20:50.139 tailgate spot. We'll come on over. 2745 02:20:50.159 --> 02:20:52.440 I feel like it's important that I should sample everything. 2746 02:20:53.059 --> 02:20:55.840 Of course. You know what I mean? I've accepted that role, 2747 02:20:55.899 --> 02:20:57.739 even though nobody wanted to give it to me. I've 2748 02:20:57.760 --> 02:21:02.639 given it to myself. In all seriousness... 1705. 2749 02:21:01.389 --> 02:21:03.229 North Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. 2750 02:21:03.750 --> 02:21:05.049 It's a really incredible shop. 2751 02:21:05.110 --> 02:21:06.930 It's the kind of place you want to come if 2752 02:21:06.950 --> 02:21:09.709 you're having a barbecue, if you're just looking for something 2753 02:21:09.729 --> 02:21:12.399 that you can throw in the air fryer on the 2754 02:21:12.440 --> 02:21:18.139 grill for dinner. They've got that covered as well. Sides, marinades, rubs, salsas. 2755 02:21:18.700 --> 02:21:21.420 They locally source a lot of their product. And, of course, 2756 02:21:21.479 --> 02:21:23.659 the meats are the main feature here. And that meat 2757 02:21:23.719 --> 02:21:26.459 case truly is a thing of beauty. So come down 2758 02:21:26.479 --> 02:21:28.649 to Southern Steer, and when you do, tell them OC 2759 02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:30.590 sent you. Dan, thanks for having us out here today. 2760 02:21:30.670 --> 02:21:34.100 Sean, it's been terrific. Thanks for coming. We really appreciate it. 2761 02:21:34.129 --> 02:21:35.909 We love being partners with you guys. 2762 02:21:36.149 --> 02:21:37.090 We love having you. 2763 02:21:37.229 --> 02:21:38.969 We're going to have one last segment where I'll give 2764 02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:44.520 away a pair of tickets to Weezer September 15th. One 2765 02:21:44.540 --> 02:21:48.899 more time, James. Oh, Dishing with Dev is going to 2766 02:21:48.940 --> 02:21:51.479 premiere right at the end of the show. The video 2767 02:21:52.059 --> 02:21:55.389 of Dishing with Dev, the YouTube feed, will come out. 2768 02:21:55.329 --> 02:21:56.590 In about 13 minutes. 2769 02:21:57.979 --> 02:21:59.790 One more segment, like I said, to give away some 2770 02:21:59.809 --> 02:22:02.950 Weezer tickets with a question. It's the Sean O'Connell Show 2771 02:22:02.969 --> 02:22:04.889 on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 2772 02:22:07.430 --> 02:22:10.569 You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch 2773 02:22:10.629 --> 02:22:15.459 Hyundai Studio of

ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 2774 02:22:18.200 --> 02:22:21.280 Closing out the Sean O'Connell Show here on ESPN 700 2775 02:22:21.280 --> 02:22:25.530 and 92.1 FM. Edition with Dev, the video portion. We'll 2776 02:22:25.569 --> 02:22:29.440 hit the YouTube here in about eight minutes. Final segment 2777 02:22:29.459 --> 02:22:30.620 of the show brought to you by our friends at 2778 02:22:30.659 --> 02:22:34.659 Advanced Window Products, 801-850-9100. 2779 02:22:34.659 --> 02:22:42.659 $ 2, 500. 2780 02:22:38.120 --> 02:22:40.799 Off, 10 windows or more. Oh, my gosh. 2781 02:22:40.860 --> 02:22:43.579 Dan just busted out some jalapeno poppers for us right 2782 02:22:43.620 --> 02:22:45.139 here as we close out the show. 2783 02:22:45.219 --> 02:22:45.620 Yes! 2784 02:22:46.659 --> 02:22:47.399 Southern Steer. 2785 02:22:47.420 --> 02:22:51.159 We've been at Southern Steer Butcher all day, 1705 North 2786 02:22:51.219 --> 02:22:55.219 Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. Yes, it is like your 2787 02:22:55.239 --> 02:22:57.479 grandma and grandpa's butcher shop, but it's got a modern 2788 02:22:57.559 --> 02:23:01.750 twist on it. Mealtime combo, the butcher combo, the sampler combo. 2789 02:23:01.809 --> 02:23:02.770 All very affordable. 2790 02:23:02.790 --> 02:23:05.209 You can get three full meals for you and the 2791 02:23:05.250 --> 02:23:08.250 family for less than $ 60 with. 2792 02:23:08.129 --> 02:23:09.149 The mealtime combo. 2793 02:23:09.209 --> 02:23:12.110 The butcher combo, two pounds of ground beef, two pounds 2794 02:23:12.129 --> 02:23:15.489 of marinated chicken, two pounds of boneless pork chops, two 2795 02:23:15.610 --> 02:23:20.239 pounds of sirloin fillets. Man, I'm stocking up on the 2796 02:23:20.260 --> 02:23:23.020 meats before I get out of here. And they've treated 2797 02:23:23.079 --> 02:23:25.299 us really well. They're treating everyone who comes in really well. 2798 02:23:26.290 --> 02:23:28.750 It is the vibe that you're looking for. It is 2799 02:23:28.799 --> 02:23:31.319 the product that you're looking for. It is the kind 2800 02:23:31.360 --> 02:23:34.479 of place that you should be supporting as a local business, 2801 02:23:34.799 --> 02:23:38.219 and they pay attention to all the details so that 2802 02:23:38.280 --> 02:23:42.780 you can, if you're like a chef, they'll elevate your meals. 2803 02:23:42.899 --> 02:23:44.739 If you're not a chef, if you're someone who's just 2804 02:23:45.479 --> 02:23:47.860 looking for convenience and you're trying to find something that 2805 02:23:48.270 --> 02:23:50.729 I can get some healthy food into my family's bellies 2806 02:23:51.170 --> 02:23:53.229 without putting too much thought into it, they can take 2807 02:23:53.250 --> 02:23:56.329 care of that as well. Really, really great stuff down 2808 02:23:56.370 --> 02:23:59.370 here at Southern Steer Butcher. And the sides, the rubs, 2809 02:24:00.409 --> 02:24:05.219 the marinades, everything. They really have it all. I have

2810 02:24:05.250 --> 02:24:07.500 a pair of tickets to give away to the Weezer 2811 02:24:07.540 --> 02:24:11.719 concert at the Maverick Center. Two tickets on September 15th. 2812 02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:19.670 Utah-Arkansas on Saturday night at Rice Eccles Stadium. If you've 2813 02:24:19.690 --> 02:24:24.530 been paying attention to the Arkansas sphere of influence, the podcasters, 2814 02:24:24.610 --> 02:24:29.909 the broadcasters, the Arkansas radio. They're overlooking Utah, and a 2815 02:24:29.950 --> 02:24:32.690 lot of what they're talking about is the fact that 2816 02:24:32.739 --> 02:24:35.600 this team is not as physical as they're used to being, 2817 02:24:36.000 --> 02:24:40.520 is not as formidable on the offensive and defensive lines. 2818 02:24:40.819 --> 02:24:41.399 Okay, fine. 2819 02:24:41.860 --> 02:24:44.360 One thing that we noticed about Utah watching, and it 2820 02:24:44.440 --> 02:24:47.479 is only a small sample size, but this looks like 2821 02:24:47.520 --> 02:24:49.920 the best wide receiving core Utah's had in quite a while. 2822 02:24:50.819 --> 02:24:55.329 And With that, my question is, who led the Utes 2823 02:24:55.510 --> 02:25:00.629 in receiving yards in the season opener against Idaho? 2824 02:25:00.649 --> 02:25:01.129 877-353-0700. 2825 02:25:01.549 --> 02:25:04.329 Nice, easy question for you. Grab yourself a pair of 2826 02:25:04.350 --> 02:25:09.940 Weezer tickets. They're coming to the Maverick Center on September 15th. 2827 02:25:12.020 --> 02:25:13.260 We will see you out there. 2828 02:25:13.180 --> 02:25:13.879 At the tailgate. 2829 02:25:13.920 --> 02:25:19.049 The ESPN 700 tailgate will be live. Across the street 2830 02:25:19.090 --> 02:25:21.969 from the stadium, hopefully you can stop by, say hello. 2831 02:25:22.430 --> 02:25:26.190 We've got free admission to the Greek Festival if you 2832 02:25:26.209 --> 02:25:28.610 want to stop by down here at Southern Steer and 2833 02:25:28.629 --> 02:25:32.010 pick up a couple of tickets for that. That's going 2834 02:25:32.110 --> 02:25:35.819 on this weekend, September 11th, 12th, and 13th, so Friday 2835 02:25:36.360 --> 02:25:40.280 through Sunday, 50th annual Salt Lake City Greek Fest, by 2836 02:25:40.319 --> 02:25:45.280 the way. And we also have some of our Taffy 2837 02:25:45.319 --> 02:25:50.469 Town ESPN 700 shows. Ute-themed taffy. So we're really just 2838 02:25:50.489 --> 02:25:53.170 hooking it up all over the place. Dan and Aubrey 2839 02:25:53.190 --> 02:25:55.500 have been really great to us. Southern Steer has been 2840 02:25:55.540 --> 02:25:58.540 really great to us. Make sure you get down here 2841 02:25:58.620 --> 02:26:01.540 as soon as you can, and we will turn you 2842 02:26:01.600 --> 02:26:03.879 over to the drive with Spence Checketts here in just 2843 02:26:03.920 --> 02:26:07.139 a matter of moments. James, is Spence in studio today, 2844 02:26:07.200 --> 02:26:07.860 or is he on the road? 2845 02:26:09.569 --> 02:26:12.790 He is in studio. I don't think we'll be able 2846 02:26:12.809 --> 02:26:15.229 to do crosstalk, though. That's fine. We don't need to 2847 02:26:15.270 --> 02:26:16.989 do crosstalk. Spence gets to talk. 2848 02:26:17.670 --> 02:26:19.520 Has to talk to me too much during the week, 2849 02:26:19.559 --> 02:26:22.200 so he probably doesn't need to do it again today. 2850 02:26:22.840 --> 02:26:24.860 Tomorrow's show should be a lot of fun. We've got 2851 02:26:24.899 --> 02:26:27.680 some Coordinator's Corner coming your way. Obviously, we're going to 2852 02:26:27.719 --> 02:26:30.600 dive deep into the matchup with the University of Arkansas, 2853 02:26:31.280 --> 02:26:33.610 where the Razorbacks are good, where the Razorbacks are a 2854 02:26:33.629 --> 02:26:37.049 little bit more vulnerable, and, of course, how the Utes 2855 02:26:37.090 --> 02:26:41.530 can build on the momentum from Week 1, because that 2856 02:26:41.569 --> 02:26:43.049 was a big offensive explosion. 2857 02:26:43.110 --> 02:26:43.750 But as we. 2858 02:26:43.649 --> 02:26:46.319 Talked about on Monday, as we talked about last Friday... 2859 02:26:46.590 --> 02:26:49.430 there are some things that you probably need to clean up. 2860 02:26:49.469 --> 02:26:52.129 There are some things that need to be workshopped just 2861 02:26:52.170 --> 02:26:54.069 a little bit for this Utah football team. We'll get 2862 02:26:54.090 --> 02:26:57.979 pretty specific with it as we give you three hours 2863 02:26:58.020 --> 02:26:59.040 of great radio tomorrow. 2864 02:26:59.120 --> 02:27:00.520 That will be the effort at least. 2865 02:27:00.659 --> 02:27:05.500 And then, of course, on Saturday, it is Utah versus 2866 02:27:05.559 --> 02:27:10.579 Arkansas and the induction of our friend, of the Utah 2867 02:27:10.600 --> 02:27:13.909 football legend, of the NFL football legend, Eric Weddle, into 2868 02:27:13.930 --> 02:27:17.590 the Utah football ring of honor. That feels like, I mean, 2869 02:27:17.610 --> 02:27:21.600 SEC team coming in, that's already special enough, but he 2870 02:27:21.700 --> 02:27:23.520 is everyone's favorite, right? 2871 02:27:23.559 --> 02:27:24.219 That's our guy. 2872 02:27:24.319 --> 02:27:27.120 So very much looking forward to having an opportunity to 2873 02:27:27.180 --> 02:27:30.500 honor Eric Weddle. He's the type of person, the type 2874 02:27:30.520 --> 02:27:33.250 of player that deserves it, but definitely also the type 2875 02:27:33.270 --> 02:27:36.670 of person that deserves it. So great weekend at Rice-Eccles 2876 02:27:36.709 --> 02:27:37.149 coming up. 2877 02:27:37.670 --> 02:27:42.579 And speaking of that, O.C., Utah football, that is, if 2878 02:27:42.620 --> 02:27:45.819 you missed the Morgan Scali Coaches show from this week 2879 02:27:45.879 --> 02:27:50.350 on Tuesday, there's, of course, the podcast on ESPN700Sports. com you 2880 02:27:50.370 --> 02:27:52.920 can check out. But we're also going to re-air it. 2881 02:27:53.430 --> 02:27:56.010 tonight at 6. We're going to try to re-air it 2882 02:27:56.549 --> 02:28:00.389 every week. It'll probably be on Wednesdays most weeks, but 2883 02:28:00.430 --> 02:28:02.889 because we had the Seahawks game last night, we're doing 2884 02:28:02.909 --> 02:28:05.030 it tonight on this Thursday. 2885 02:28:05.129 --> 02:28:07.110 So if you missed it, 6 o'clock tonight. 2886 02:28:07.450 --> 02:28:12.870 If you missed Dishing with Deb, that'll be available at ESPN700Sports. com 2887 02:28:11.430 --> 02:28:15.649 and on the ESPN700 app. And we'll do the same 2888 02:28:15.690 --> 02:28:20.350 thing with Coordinator's Corner after the show tomorrow. So we're 2889 02:28:20.379 --> 02:28:25.000 giving you the best Utah content during football season and beyond. 2890 02:28:26.700 --> 02:28:28.780 All right, we'll chat with you again tomorrow. Stay tuned 2891 02:28:28.799 --> 02:28:31.799 for the drive with Spence Checketts. One last time, the 2892 02:28:31.860 --> 02:28:36.000 address is 1705 North Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs. Tell Dan, 2893 02:28:36.020 --> 02:28:38.239 tell Aubrey, tell the whole crew you heard about it 2894 02:28:38.319 --> 02:28:42.149 on ESPN 700. Come down, stock up on your meats. Today, 2895 02:28:42.200 --> 02:28:47.149 the special is sausage, burgers, and hot dogs. Tomorrow, it's 2896 02:28:47.329 --> 02:28:50.190 all the sides, like the stuffed mushrooms, the jalapeno poppers. 2897 02:28:50.729 --> 02:28:51.530 And stuff like that. 2898 02:28:51.750 --> 02:28:55.059 So get yourself ready for the weekend with Southern Steer Butcher. 2899 02:28:55.479 --> 02:28:57.819 Thanks for listening to the Sean O'Connell Show. We'll do 2900 02:28:57.840 --> 02:28:59.409 it again tomorrow on ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.