บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The Guys That Did It

00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:34.079 That honeymoon phase love. 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.360 We got slaps, we got b-sides, we got good vibes. 00:06:54.800 --> 00:07:04.639 Oh I always gotta be hard pause. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:11.920 Come through, I think I need you. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.519 I swear it's how to keep these feelings to myself. 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:21.279 It is, baby, it is. 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.079 Now you're the one I'm gonna tell the world, baby. 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.000 Okay, but we can get away. 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.199 Palm trees, breach, fuse within every day. 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.079 All I wanna hear is in the visions I replay. 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:40.000 Sit right next to you. 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:46.319 Yeah, I try not to show how I feel about you to kill it away. 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:47.759 But we don't really want to. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:48.959 I just wanna get away. 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:51.199 Good vibes right next to you. 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:52.079 Good vibes. 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:55.680 Let's ride. 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.759 I don't wanna kiss you. 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:02.560 Yeah, I just wanna feel you, feel you. 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:15.680 I want you to run We do, baby. 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:23.040 Stay a while. 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:25.120 Go to kick them shoes off. 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:27.040 Don't go nowhere as we keep this thing rocking. 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:27.759 Let's talk to him. 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.000 Big RB record right here. 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:36.960 Big B size. 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.879 One of my favorites of the last few years. 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.519 As far as the newer RB generation, give me on. 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:44.399 Let's talk to him. 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.039 Ladies, let's do it. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.519 That breakup love. 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.360 Talk about it. 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:06.559 Look like you understand. 00:10:59.039 --> 00:10:59.519 What's up? 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.200 It's a take stuff. 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.360 Let's stop with the one stick. 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:18.159 We don't. 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:21.200 Yes. 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:48.879 Listen, man. 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.120 Take that energy up if you have not yet. 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:54.480 Thanks for coming along. 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.240 Oh shit, we're gonna run that back. 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:57.600 Pardon me. 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.840 I wanna run it back, but we ain't gonna do that. 00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:01.919 We're gonna move this thing on forward, man. 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:03.919 You know how this thing goes. 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:09.600 As we come to do us this time, got my turn tables all fucked up out here. 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.360 Either way, let's get right. 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:17.919 Like we always do at this time, we are back for another audio occasion. 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.919 It is the podcast of self-starters and those willing to make the most out of every situation. 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.000 It's the EFS podcast. 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:27.919 We are back for episode number 86 in the house. 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:30.320 And you know how we do when we kick this thing off, man. 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.080 We got big audio on the way in. 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:36.639 Big gratitude, big gratefulness, big everything. 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:38.159 Pause on this one. 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:39.919 Let's talk about it. 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:42.159 Come on, man. 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:53.519 It is a blessing for your clientele to put you in their budget, especially as a personal trainer. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:13:02.879 With all the uncertainties in the economy, people are still finding ways to put you in their budget just so they can continue your service. 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:05.759 That should be commended. 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.679 I'm thankful for all those that have placed me in their budget. 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:10.399 Short sweet. 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:17.759 So I'm very appreciative. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:31.440 And if you are a trainer, you have clientele of any kind, be appreciative because we all know that having a personal trainer is a luxury item in most people's budget. 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.200 So if you are considered in their budget, be grateful. 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:36.559 It's a blessing. 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.519 Tell them thank you because they don't have to. 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.480 And it speaks values of you and your hard work. 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:44.320 So continue the hard work and count. 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:47.679 And that's that man on the way in. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.799 You know how we do as we get this thing rolling. 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:52.240 Let my theme music run. 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:53.039 We hear. 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:27.919 I said a little bit of work on a go. 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.200 I was letting the toads rock. 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:35.919 Shit was very gloomy outside, very thunderous for the past I want to say at least 12 hours. 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:37.039 These storms is crazy. 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.960 Anybody who says global warming is not a thing, you gotta be bugging the fuck out. 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.919 So as we let this theme music fade, man, we're gonna open this thing up as we always do. 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.039 Check in with your boy for another episode. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:50.559 Thanks for coming to rock with me. 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:52.159 Appreciate you come standard. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:15:06.320 And just like that, you know, that audio said on the way in, man, it is a real thing that nowadays that uh at least people of my lane and my service, which we'll touch on a little bit later, but um uh that are still in business, you know, uh, it is a blessing, you know. 00:15:06.399 -->

00:15:16.240 And obviously anyone who's a business owner who's offering something to the world, it is a business because a lot of things are commodities or, you know, just things that aren't one hundred percent necessary in life. 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:26.879 But especially in my business, I know that training is something that, you know, a lot of people don't really put as a high priority on their list of things that they want and need in their lives. 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:38.559 And then if you're able to impact people in a positive enough way so that they consider that to be a high priority item and even more so consider that to be a high priority item with you, uh, it is something to be considered and something to be appreciated. 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:50.080 Um my clients know, you know, I'm the person that any time that any one of my personal training clients they re-up with me after one term, you know, or or one, you know, contract that we go through and they do another one. 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:55.440 To me, it's like, listen, thank you for your continued service, for your continued support, um, and just again rocking with me. 00:15:55.519 --> 00:16:00.799 But, you know, I'm I'm blessed and fortunate enough to have kind of multiple streams with that. 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:11.360 The personal training side with the group sessions uh and the personal training clients, but all my clients know whether you go train with me in a group in a personal setting, like I I appreciate the shit out of y'all. 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:18.639 You know, y'all literally keep the lights on and that one, you know, rang and rang true to where you know my heart sits and kind of where I'm at uh in my life. 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:19.840 So appreciate y'all. 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:21.200 Shouts to y'all. 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.200 Um and checking in on the way in, man. 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.039 We'll we'll tap it for a couple topics. 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.120 So we ain't gonna spend too, too long here today. 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.600 Uh got a lot of things to get to coming off of AK. 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.159 Uh well trip, like I said a little bit earlier. 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:36.960 Uh went with my family um and daughter down in Orlando over the past couple of days. 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.600 Had a great time, you know, it was good to check out a l for a little bit, kinda. 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:52.960 As much as you can mentally check out being a business owner who has something that's again running and an operation that's going while you're not there to, you know, oversee and and kinda guide things on a day-to-day basis for about five days. 00:16:53.120 --> 00:17:03.200 Like to me, you know, it was a blessing to be able to put myself and put my space in a position to do so where I can kind of disconnect a little bit and come back and everything be just fine. 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:08.960 So, um, shouts to the hard work that I've done to

put together and shouts to my team, you know, for holding me down. 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.599 Uh in the meantime, mainly coach Coach Ash. 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.160 She don't really listen to the part that much, but still gotta shout out. 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:15.680 She helped me down in a big way. 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.279 Uh that's my ride of die when it comes to, you know, my my employees and people that actually work with me. 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.640 Um, I say work with me, not work work work for me, excuse me. 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:29.279 Uh, just because we work together and, you know, I'm not the quote unquote boss. 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:34.880 That's one of my favorite words to say that I hate, uh, just because I don't really give it up like that. 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:40.000 But either way, the team held it down uh and was able to take a couple of days with my daughter in Orlando. 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:40.960 Great time. 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:41.759 Loved it. 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:44.480 Back pushing towards the fourth quarter of a year now. 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:45.759 A lot of great stuff coming up. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:53.599 Uh, and really looking forward to what I can do uh in my first full year of business, you know, starting to finish January to December. 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:55.200 Um, and then even more to come. 00:17:55.359 --> 00:18:00.000 Um but that said, tapping in, man, we got a couple topics to touch on today. 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:05.039 Uh one is the the biggest, I guess, in the social media world over the last couple of days. 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:10.400 Um, and uh sparked a lot of interesting debate and interesting conversations around it. 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.839 Uh and it is the Dejan Love situation. 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:18.480 Uh so unless you live under a rock, either you know that, or unless your algorithm don't swing that way. 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:19.359 I'll say that too. 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:25.200 Uh, because I know there's like different worlds, but I think the people that listen to my platform might have heard or saw this one. 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:49.200 Uh and uh Dejan Love made a big, big splash because he was a person who basically faked being an NFL player, uh, made a whole like fake Google search really put on a facade and scammed multiple, I think 26 women up to the tune of like 1.6 million, uh was just arrested recently, him and the person that was working with him uh to pull off this whole scam. 00:18:49.440 --> 00:19:05.759 Um so yeah, it it this is one that has taken an interesting turn online, and I would say interesting, not surprising, just because I would kinda expect this to be the case in the world that we live in, being conscious enough of what it what it is. 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:29.519 Um, but it did take an interesting turn because it sparked a bunch of debates about, you know, one the fact that he was doing what he was doing and basically being a laughing stock of the internet, um, to the victim side of it as far as the women who were subject to, you know, his I guess predatory behavior, to, you know, him lying and stealing money from them and then, you know, using it for his own personal gains. 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:37.359 Uh, and then three, the sports debate, which means like the guys who actually played the game versus the guys that didn't play the game. 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.799 Um, and I think all three sides of it make for interesting conversation. 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:47.200 Uh and to me, I got my own feelings about it, which I guess we had to put out there. 00:19:47.359 --> 00:20:00.720 Uh so first and foremost, when it comes to the fact that he did what he did, I think it is a a very just honestly, this this one this one was one of those. 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:08.000 Uh and I'ma just say this first and foremost, like I do not condone any of the activities that he was a part of. 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:14.559 Um, and I gotta just condemn it for what it is and break this thing down like little by little piece by piece. 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.319 And the first piece of it is the women, you know. 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.519 Um obviously these women were not the most knowledgeable about the game of football. 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:35.200 Um, and uh I guess we didn't doing their due diligence to understand that this guy wasn't fake on just seeing certain picks of content or hearing certain stories of him saying what he did. 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:40.319 Uh, but there is there that is like the predatory nature of the whole situation. 00:20:40.400 --> 00:21:03.839 Like a person that can go into like any kind of interaction with a woman knowing what you're trying to get out of it and manipulate your way around it just because you know that woman doesn't know shit about what you're trying to like blind her with, like say these girls or I would assume, I would assume, I'd say I don't like to assume, but the women who get scanned in that scenario aren't really the most knowledgeable about, you know, sports in general. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:11.039 Um maybe just thought, you know, they was I don't know, blessed with a great opportunity from someone who was posing to be a great guy. 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:21.200 Um so that part of it is a little bit, you know, sad just because if you don't know anything, then you don't really have the room to protect yourself again against someone like that, you know. 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:22.640 So that part's of it a little whack. 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:25.440 Uh and a whole again predatory nature of it. 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:35.759 Um so from there we can get into the I guess the part where it began to turn into guy versus girl, you know. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:43.920 And here's where you got niggas like Shady McCoy online um on his platform that you know he's a part of uh with the guys over there at the speakeasy, I think.

00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:59.759 Um and saying shit like, you know, well when women do this shit all the time and then the timelines turning into like uh, you know, what happens when, you know, women scam men and they, you know, trap them to have a baby, this is all the same thing, da da da whatever, and like the whole back and forth men versus women part of it to me. 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:07.440 Like a bunch of like bitch made niggas is the ones that's like you know putting that kind of narrative out there. 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.119 And we do know that, yes, there are women who scam men, you know. 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:17.279 Um, I saw one person say, like, nothing happened when Cardi B basically drugged dudes and said she robbed them and this is that, whatever. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:27.759 We do know that that happens, but at the same time, there is a little bit of a, and we hate to say this in this world, I don't really care because I'm the person that believes in them. 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:29.759 There's a little bit of a double standard to that. 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:45.359 Like, guys are supposed to be knowledgeable about you know certain things, and even if they're not knowledgeable enough about it, it hits a little bit different just because most times there are chances for you to kind of spot the bullshit, you know. 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:46.000 I.e. 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:50.960 the case with Cardi and you know, the things that she has admitted to in the past or whatever. 00:22:51.039 --> 00:23:18.400 I ain't trying to talk about that too much, but say if you're a woman setting up a guy, like as a guy, you're supposed to move smarter than you know, putting yourself in those kind of situations, you know, like that is usually something where it's lust related or guys, you know, uh really just pursuing the female to where you get the ties turned on you a little bit just because she knows like you only really want one thing, and that was usually that's when what happens when guys get scammed. 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:33.519 Like in this scenario, obviously he's the one pursuing her, um and again blinding her because he is making sure that she doesn't have the opportunity to figure shit out just because she doesn't really know shit in the first place. 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:47.920 Um, roundabout way of saying, like, it's easier to scam someone if you don't know better than to scam someone if you are in a position where, well, I guess I can't say easier, but guys versus girls to me is just two different things. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:54.000 Like, so stop comparing men to women, what women do versus what men do, just because there's a bunch of women that got scammed in this situation. 00:23:54.160 --> 00:24:04.160 And in general, like the most important thing that we need to understand about this is that the man stole money from multiple women to the tune of about 1.6 million dollars. 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.880 Like, that should trump

any of that whole situation. 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:16.559 And yes, there are women, again, who scare men, and they should be looked at with the same kind of you know negative light as we're looking at homeboy with, but at the same time, it's not a comparison thing. 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.960 Like, this situation is its own individual thing. 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:26.079 Let's look at it for that and stop trying to bring the men versus woman clash back and forth into the whole vibe because that shit to me is like corny. 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:27.279 Like, it ain't gotta be that. 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:28.240 Like, it is what it is. 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:29.279 He did what he did. 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.839 The people that were affected were the people that were affected. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.880 And if someone stole that much money from you, you'd be upset too. 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.400 Guy, girl, whoever. 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.960 Like, so just look at it for that and stop trying to make it a battle of the sexes in this in this scenario. 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:46.000 And again, it'd just be a bunch of niggas who really kind of hate women who are putting out that narrative. 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.920 And again, there's some validity to it, but it ain't that in this situation. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.240 Like, listen, like, let's just look at this for this. 00:24:52.799 --> 00:25:02.480 Last part of it the whole you versus well, not you, excuse me, people like me who have played the game on a high level. 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:14.000 I'm not saying I played on the highest level, uh, or the people who never really did the sport, and then they're putting on a facade like they had, you know, and this turned into that too, with you know, Stack. 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:21.519 And I fuck with you, Stack, like, you know, respect a lot of the things we've done in the NBA in your career, um, and a lot of things we've done in the content space. 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:40.880 But I think again, this one you kind of missed the mark with that whole thing just because he went into a whole like rant about how, you know, a lot of y'all can't laugh at him, like the people that didn't really play the sport, because that's a lot of y'all with the hoop dreams and never made it, or the you know, you never made it to the highest level to live out your sport and all that stuff. 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:48.000 So basically he's lumping you and those type of people into the category with homeboy, or at least that's how it came off to me. 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.960 Um, and to me, that's kind of corny too, just because at the same time, like it's not about that. 00:25:53.119 --> 00:26:00.319 This is about the actor was committed to where he stole a bunch of money from people, and that should be the number one thing, you know. 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:10.480 And obviously, the guys who played the game on a high level, the guys who dedicated years and years and years to make it to whatever level they did, like, yeah, you earn a certain level of respect for playing out your sport. 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:18.720 And I think that is the part of it to where it's like it should be obvious to people who never really played the sport that he didn't play the sport, you know. 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.680 And you can see it just by the videos of him running in the sand. 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.200 Like, dude wasn't an athlete. 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:23.839 We know that. 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:27.119 Like the people who know know, but the people who don't don't. 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:33.680 And the people who don't are the people that, you know, again, may be subject to being scammed in that kind of way. 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:41.680 But the people that may have did it a little bit, but then didn't really do it on the highest level, like the whole hoop dreams and you living off of like your high school days and all, etc. 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.000 etc. 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:43.680 Like all that shit is cool. 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:49.680 I understand you want to differentiate yourself, differentiate yourself from the person that actually did it versus the person that actually didn't. 00:26:49.839 --> 00:27:01.440 But you trying to live through this person who did terrible things in this situation, to me, like again, it goes against just understanding what the main thing is, which is the thing that he did and steal a bunch of money. 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.240 So everybody can have their feelings about it. 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:05.680 Let me know how you feel about it. 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:10.799 I just think it's a little whack that in general, like the the conversation got spun a whole bunch of different ways. 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:18.400 It even turned racial to where it's like you Brett Farb did the same thing when he took the money from the people down there in Mississippi and da da da, whatever. 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:19.920 Like, yeah, I understand that too. 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.240 He he wasn't looked at in the same light as what Homeboy has going on right now. 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:28.640 But Brett Farb is also one of those guys that actually did it on the high level. 00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:42.160 So even comparing him to Homeboy in this situation, again, a real, real, like big-time professional high-level athlete versus a guy who's trying to suck on the lifeblood of actual athletes to run a scam. 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:46.960 To me, it's too much, like too much opinions in the pot for this one. 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.480 Like, the dude is a dirt ball, he'll get what he gets coming, and and that is what it is, you know. 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:58.400 And I I think it's funny just because at the end of the day, you kind of get what you deserve in this case. 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:04.000 And it is funny watching the videos out there, which I'm just out there looking like a

non-athlete, like for real. 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:09.440 Like, cuts is crazy, powers non-existent, like coordination, all that shit. 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:10.400 Like, you ain't got it. 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.720 But hey, man, bunch of people lost money. 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.119 That's the most important thing, and leave it at that. 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:31.920 Uh, moving forward to the next topic of conversation, we are gonna dive into the man, the myth, the legend, um Lena Messi, uh, and talk about the fact that he has now said as a release of this podcast, uh, well, it was Monday when he put out the news. 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:43.519 I don't know when I listened to it, uh, but Monday he put out the news that he was going to retire from international football, meaning football, soccer, played with his home nation of Argentina. 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:51.759 Uh, I don't know what some people who may not understand the game of football or understand what he really was saying in that moment, thought he was retiring for real, like never to play football again. 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:56.079 Um, no, he is retiring from his national team, Argentina. 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:02.160 Obviously, he still has a contract with Inter Miami right now, and they middle, and they're in the middle of dominating shit in ML MLS. 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:13.279 Um, and you know, like we talked about episodes ago, there's international football where you're playing with your country, and there's league or club football where you're playing for your team or whatever league you're playing in around the world. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.559 Um, so you're gonna see him again. 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:20.799 Um, I think he has a contract for uh three or four more years with Inter Miami. 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:22.000 Could be wrong about that. 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.279 Um, but I know it's a multi-year deal that he still has with them. 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.759 Um so how do we feel about it? 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:41.039 I know the timeline was very, very uh well, he was showered with a lot of praise, I would say, um, by his teammates, by his peers, by his adversaries who he played against, uh, by commentators. 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:48.160 Uh like he was just showing a lot of love in the situation in this scenario, and I think, you know, is deserving of that uh as well. 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.319 Uh, I do think that the timing of it is expected. 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:59.920 Um, and I said this at the end of the last World Cup, like, listen, this is the last you're gonna see of this man in this tournament. 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.200 Like, he's 39 years old. 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.079 The next World Cup is not 40 until four years from now. 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:10.720 Uh, so you're asking someone who's uh over 40 to come out there and play like that again in the World Cup. 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.799 And you know, I know Cristiano Ronaldo just played

over 40 in the World Cup as well. 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.319 We saw how that went for him. 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:22.559 You know, that is another whole story that we ain't diving into now because this ain't really about that, or at least not yet, I'll say. 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:28.480 Um, but I do think that that was, and I said that that was the last time you're gonna see Leon Leonel Messi on the World Cup stage. 00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:46.240 We thought he was gonna retire after the 2022 World Cup, uh, which then led him to go to enter Miami and take on this whole new thing, like where he's literally put the MLS on his back and brought a lot of attention, and it's kind of changing the way people look at the MLS and is the appeal and all that of the league. 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.440 Refer back to whatever episode we just talked about that on. 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:56.319 Um, but that said, I do think that it is expected that he was going to retire from Argentina. 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:04.000 Um, and it just goes to moments like these where you gotta listen, like really, really just understand that like father time is undefeated. 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:12.079 Like in the famous words of Eminem on Till I Collapse, he said something like uh when you're where you're while you're in it, try to get as much shit as you can. 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:25.519 Because when your run is over, just with admit when it's in his end, you know, like basically, bro, like you gotta get what you can while you can, and understand that there's only a finite amount of time that you have to play the whatever sport or whatever game that you're you're part of. 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.119 And dude, won it all. 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.720 Like we talked about it over and over again. 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:30.559 We're not gonna run down his resume. 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:43.359 Uh, but big time winner and one of the best athletes in history, you know, in his sport, but in history, you know, one of those people that you put on the pedestal with the Usain Bolts, with the Michael Jordans, with the Tom Brady. 00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:45.920 Like, he is that in his individual sport. 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.119 And at some point, you are gonna step away. 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.400 Like, age sets in. 00:31:50.480 --> 00:32:02.400 You don't want to keep doing this shit over and over and over and over again, and especially coming off of your father just passing away and you having to play with the emotional burden of that in the biggest tournament in the world and still go dominate shit. 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:11.119 Like, you know, I don't think people understand and give athletes enough credit for what they do in their sport when life is life around that. 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.680 Because athletes themselves are entertainers. 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.119 Like, that's what I was. 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.759 That's what all athletes who are currently doing their

thing like we entertain people who watch sports. 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:29.839 Um, it is a spectacle, it is something that we have to, you know, go out there and do just to give people a smile or give people the connection or give people something to kind of root root for or boo against. 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.440 So, you know, that is what the the role of an athlete is. 00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:34.720 So we're entertainers. 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:48.160 And for us to go out there and have to entertain people on a night-to-night basis, and in his case, do it on the biggest stage in the world, like literally for years and years and years on the biggest stage and stages in the world, like it's a hard thing to do. 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:56.960 And when you got family issues going on, you got things in your own personal life that you're dealing with to go out there and put on the performances that he did to me makes him even more great, in my opinion. 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:01.759 Uh, but listen, best in whatever's to come with the rest of your career. 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.279 I do still think that he has a personal thing that he's going for as far as his overall status. 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:19.680 Uh, not gonna put it out like that, but I do think he has some things that he wants to check off the list still uh while he's playing in the MLS and enjoying his, you know, the twilight of his career with the new club in one of the best, most chill cities you can do it in. 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:24.880 Um and again, create a lot of opportunities and still dominate shit um at 39. 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:30.079 If you're watching the way he's playing right now, I I still think that he has a few years left. 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:41.440 Uh, he said he doesn't know how many years he wants to play, considering his father just passed and again the emotional burdens and just again life happening and you being 39 years old and having played a sport from the time you're like 10 years old. 00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.759 Um, so best of luck, man. 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:44.880 I'm still rooting for you. 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:46.799 Still my goat, still everyone's goat. 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.680 Um, maybe not your goat, but I think he is the goat. 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.599 So we'll just leave it at that, man. 00:33:51.839 --> 00:34:04.799 Um, and moving forward, we'll tap into another piece of conversation, staying on the athletic side and kind of pivoting off of Lionel Messi to the other side of sports when it actually is over for you. 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:11.119 Um, and this story goes to a post that was put out there um by Kyle Singler. 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:20.239 Um, if you know anything about Kyle Singler, he played for Duke under Mike Sakseski, um, great player at Duke and played in the NBA for a few years as well. 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:32.079 Um, but was just seen in a post that he put out uh not looking too well physically as far as like cleanliness or just you know clean cut or kemped, I would say. 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:43.199 Um, and on top of that, just sounding a little bit like just rambling and manic, and I don't want to make any accusations, uh, but just not looking maybe of the right mindset. 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:51.519 Um, and accused Coach K of, you know, not reaching back out to him and basically saying Coach K set him up to be in a bad position, which he's in, et cetera, et cetera. 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.119 Um, and just looking kind of wild. 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:58.159 And I think it hit the internet, and obviously it is something that the internet's gonna joke about. 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.199 Like this is just what happens in the world we live in today. 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:22.719 But uh this one hit home for me um because of a conversation that I stand by and champion always, which is athletes in transition uh away from their sport and what it could look like on one end and what it could look like on the other end, and even what it could look like in the middle, because you know, I think there's multiple stories along that, you know, a whole across the whole spectrum, I should say. 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:38.719 Um, so with the Kyle Singler thing, I do think it is tough to watch just because seeing a guy with that much potential, uh that much, I guess, of a career, because you know, playing a Duke is something to stamp your head, like what you take that one to the grave. 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:53.519 I played there and I played well at a high-level university, you know, and then to go on and play professionally after that, those are things that you check off the box because there's only about 1% or less than 1% of athletes in any given sport, I would assume, that get to do that. 00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:12.880 So for me, to see someone who's made it to those levels to then have this kind of, I guess, life that he's living right now, we don't really know too much, uh, but it does get you to thinking, you know, when someone was here and then you see them like that, like what could have been going on in the meantime. 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.920 Um, and my thoughts, my prayers are with him, just making sure that he's okay mentally. 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:29.280 Um, but I think that this conversation is something that we see happen over and over again, and we don't have enough of a, I guess, understanding of it from everyone's perspective. 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:38.639 Because I think leading back to what I just said about Messi, people think that athletes are really just their entertainment and then not understanding that there's people uh within all of that. 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:48.960 And I think that a lot of times athletes go wrong in their post-athletic career because they don't feel like they have purpose, you know. 00:36:49.280 --> 00:37:07.440 And not to say that's what exactly went on with him, but I just know from my own personal experience and

what I've heard from other athletes who've gone the same through the same thing, like it is literally when you get your identity stripped from you as being one thing and then having it turn into something else completely that you know things can go a little bit shaky for you. 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:12.239 Um, and at their core, I think athletes just really want to like matter. 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:20.880 And I think they should or want to matter to the clubs that they're playing for, the teams that they're playing for, the people that pay them, uh, you know, give them those opportunities. 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:28.639 They want to matter to the leagues that are responsible for giving them the awards and the accolades or all the statistical things that you want to check off the box as an athlete. 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:36.800 And even in your post-athletic career, they want to matter in whatever is next in their like next phase of life, I should say. 00:37:37.039 --> 00:38:10.559 Um, and when you can't find something that you either love that much that you can transfer your love for that game that you were playing into your new career, or again, you don't feel the that you matter in your next phase of life, it leaves you with a little bit of a hole missing, you know, like in your spirit and in your like your being to where you're looking for something to fill it, and that's where things can go wrong, where you know you lean into substances, or you know, you have mental health issues to where again you we we've had this conversation over and over again. 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.239 Like bad things happen when you don't feel like you're your fullest self. 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:19.119 Um, and again, I'm speaking specifically just about the athletes and some of the things that they've gone through. 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:34.880 And being someone who's gone through it myself, again, some of my darkest and lowest times were where I knew the ride was about to be over, and then I went into the ride being over and how to figure out you know what my next set stage in life is and did a lot of it with a smile on my face. 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:45.199 And you know, I'm thankful to this day now that when I did transition away from the sport, uh my mentality was sound enough to get me through what the next stages were for me. 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:53.760 Uh, and even now what the next stages are because I again I still look at live life and think about everything around me like an athlete, you know. 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.440 Um, and that's hard to break out of. 00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:06.000 It's something you may never break out of, but like I am just thankful that right now I have purpose and I feel like that I matter in the things that I do to the people that I service. 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:11.920 Um and I matter to myself and the things that I want to go out there and achieve and trying to hold myself accountable for those goals. 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:19.599 And, you know, like my purpose and the things that again, I feel like I matter in uh are very helpful to me in the journey, you know? 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.559 And uh every athlete has to go through it at some point. 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.559 Again, some roads are a lot longer than others, some roads are a lot shorter. 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:40.239 Uh, but once you really, really devote yourself to a game, a sport, um, and then that that lifestyle, it is hard to kind of pivot when you know things are coming, gonna be over, or sometimes when you don't know things are gonna be over because it happens suddenly for a lot of athletes as well. 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.719 Um, so shouts to Kyle Singler, man. 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:43.760 Hope you're feeling all right. 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.000 Uh check in with somebody if you need to. 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:52.239 Uh, I would say at dark, dark times of my life, coming off of my athletic career, therapy was helpful for me. 00:39:52.320 --> 00:40:01.039 Um, and this was in the midst of a lot of different things divorce, uh, career struggles, like you know, all that kind of stuff was brewing in my life. 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.079 So uh check in if you really, really need to. 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:09.519 And again, hold your head, athletes and and and the people who are transitioning away from the game. 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.159 It is a rough road, but you can make it through it, man. 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:16.000 Um, and that said, it's really all all I wanted to tap in for today. 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.239 Um, to let you know, guys, guard yourself mentally, physically, spiritually, and all things in between. 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.800 As always, we will catch you in the next go round EFS podcast. 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:28.800 Up episode number eighty six is out. 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:29.760 Peace.