บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode #23 - Great Eats!!!

--> 00:03:28.855 He came up with that name based off of McCall magazine was sitting on his desk when he, they hatched this idea and he put the initials in front of it because a lot of truck driver. 00:03:29.846 --> 00:03:34.402 had their initials on their shirt and he knew this character was going to be a trucker. 00:03:34.855 --> 00:03:35.336 Okay. 00:03:35.786 --> 00:03:39.026 So Wolf Creek pass. 00:03:39.355 --> 00:03:41.096 That was his first album, 00:03:41.485 --> 00:03:42.686 which we've listened to a lot. 00:03:42.955 --> 00:03:44.186 listened to that a lot. 00:03:44.366 --> 00:03:49.015 uh, old home filler up and keep on trucking cafe is on the album Wolf Creek pass. 00:03:49.015 --> 00:03:56.216 I would highly recommend any of his greatest hits and of course his most famous song, which hit number one. 00:03:58.450 --> 00:03:59.411 Convoy. 00:03:59.501 --> 00:04:00.820 Absolutely. 00:04:01.165 --> 00:04:02.306 I know this one because. 00:04:03.596 --> 00:04:08.786 I bought you a bootleg copy of the movie convoy on VHS. 00:04:08.786 --> 00:04:09.955 When we were first married, 00:04:11.276 --> 00:04:13.286 I watched it once. 00:04:13.466 --> 00:04:15.145 It was really bootleg too. 00:04:15.145 --> 00:04:19.795 Cause like every once in a while You could see a head pop up It was one of those kind. 00:04:19.946 --> 00:04:21.596 I'm pretty sure we still have it in the closet. 00:04:25.016 --> 00:04:30.130 Oh, it was one of my favorite movies that I had an interview with the guy from judges carwash today. 00:04:30.130 --> 00:04:30.641 And I actually. 00:04:30.641 --> 00:04:33.661 cited Convoy BJ and the bear smoking. 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.380 The bandit is a big influences. 00:04:36.100 --> 00:04:37.300 Why I'm in trucking. 00:04:37.391 --> 00:04:37.750 right? 00:04:37.841 --> 00:04:38.380 That's it. 00:04:39.971 --> 00:04:44.531 wore out a VH or a cassette tape of Wolf Creek pass. 00:04:45.100 --> 00:04:47.680 CW McCall, uh, easily. 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:52.930 One of my favorite artists, little trivia after he got his convoy 00:04:52.985 --> 00:04:53.365 money, 00:04:54.026 --> 00:04:57.206 his family went on vacation in Europe, Colorado. 00:04:58.435 --> 00:04:59.425 ended up buying. 00:04:59.725 --> 00:05:06.865 a house in your REA and he became the mayor of your'e from 1986 to 1992. 00:05:07.406 --> 00:05:08.216 Oh, how interesting. 00:05:08.786 --> 00:05:08.906 It 00:05:09.235 --> 00:05:09.415 Wow. 00:05:09.745 --> 00:05:10.586 just died. 00:05:10.675 --> 00:05:12.127 Uh, April 1st of this year. 00:05:12.625 --> 00:05:13.045 Wow. 00:05:13.526 --> 00:05:14.456 93 years old. 00:05:14.786 --> 00:05:18.206 So were they still in your way when we were out there? 00:05:18.896 --> 00:05:21.685 I didn't read that far. 00:05:21.956 --> 00:05:29.831 know He was still Um, lived a long life, had a lot of influence over a lot of truck drivers through time. 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.610 So I'm big into Truckstop cafes. 00:05:33.610 --> 00:05:34.331 I like to eat. 00:05:34.331 --> 00:05:34.930 Anyway. 00:05:35.440 --> 00:05:46.331 When I first started driving, I loved stopping any place I could that had a restaurant and sitting down and try and whatever they 00:05:46.391 --> 00:05:46.841 had. 00:05:48.086 --> 00:05:53.377 So Val, a few months back said you ought to do a podcast on Truckstop restaurants. 00:05:53.910 --> 00:05:57.617 and I jumped at the chance to do this podcast in particular. 00:05:58.230 --> 00:06:01.199 So we've got interviews with 16. 00:06:02.074 --> 00:06:04.654 truck drivers, of who. 00:06:04.714 --> 00:06:07.774 are experienced 00:06:08.115 --> 00:06:09.764 Susan, Susan truck drivers, 00:06:10.144 --> 00:06:15.754 truck drivers, who knows some of the best places there are to eat some that maybe aren't open anymore. 00:06:15.814 --> 00:06:22.834 And I know a lot of us don't have time, but if you get the chance, most of the places that are mentioned during this podcast, yet, 00:06:22.845 --> 00:06:23.475 to try and 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.629 take a take a minute and stop there and eat. 00:06:27.949 --> 00:06:31.430 So we'll hop right into our interview with Mike. 00:06:31.430 --> 00:06:31.939 Roberts. 00:06:32.779 --> 00:06:47.803 Becky, I had to, I had to plug my phone in and Press record. 00:06:47.834 --> 00:06:48.494 Okay, Mike. 00:06:48.494 --> 00:06:50.593 So what's your Truckstop food story. 00:06:51.473 --> 00:06:52.134 Okay. 00:06:52.553 --> 00:06:52.853 Okay. 00:06:52.853 --> 00:06:54.053 I was a Gordon fast free. 00:06:54.084 --> 00:06:55.134 This is years ago. 00:06:55.644 --> 00:06:57.324 My daughter turned 12. 00:06:57.353 --> 00:06:59.723 See, kids could only go if they were 12. 00:06:59.723 --> 00:07:00.024 Right. 00:07:00.744 --> 00:07:04.913 So my daughter turned 12 and she, and they could only go in the summer. 00:07:05.064 --> 00:07:06.324 They couldn't go in the winter. 00:07:06.324 --> 00:07:10.644 You know, when chain laws were out, you know, when you, when you had to carry tire chains, they couldn't go. 00:07:11.004 --> 00:07:11.184 Okay. 00:07:12.149 --> 00:07:21.718 So my daughter went with me one summer after she turned 12 and we, uh, went down like to LA, right. 00:07:22.468 --> 00:07:29.069 And, uh, and McDonald's had just, uh, this is a side story. 00:07:29.278 --> 00:07:34.168 Nick Giannos had just opened the big parking lanes for RVs. 00:07:35.233 --> 00:07:42.793 And so I was flipping into big Donald's and, you know, get all the food there, you know, that I didn't, you know, carry in my little cooler. 00:07:43.213 --> 00:07:43.514 Okay. 00:07:43.514 --> 00:07:50.593 We're Buttonwillow and we go to like a TA or, or somewhere like that, with that, with the restaurant. 00:07:50.863 --> 00:07:51.074 Okay. 00:07:51.153 --> 00:07:57.463 Sort of sitting at a booth and the lady comes and says, uh, to my better, what would you, like? 00:07:57.673 --> 00:08:04.975 She says, I'll take a couple of pork chops and then she decides on

mashed potatoes and gravy and then green beans. 00:08:05.593 --> 00:08:05.774 Okay. 00:08:06.629 --> 00:08:13.829 And so I get something and see, uh, see our family were dairy farmers, so it was be for nothing. 00:08:14.369 --> 00:08:18.899 And so I said, what makes you think that you like pork chops? 00:08:19.288 --> 00:08:23.999 Well, grandma, you know, my ma my wife's mother, she fixes them sometimes. 00:08:23.999 --> 00:08:24.528 That's okay. 00:08:24.598 --> 00:08:25.738 Why don't you have anything you want? 00:08:25.738 --> 00:08:28.889 You know, so sort of big gums. 00:08:29.668 --> 00:08:34.048 My daughter said these pork chops taste, like they'd been sloped in Greece. 00:08:35.038 --> 00:08:35.879 I said, oh yeah. 00:08:37.349 --> 00:08:44.399 And she said these potatoes tastes like they'd been made out of those little tiny beads. 00:08:46.019 --> 00:08:48.058 So she ate her green beans. 00:08:48.389 --> 00:09:01.528 Then we walked, we had walk all the way down through, you know, the little place there, but Willow, we had a well bout like a fourth of a mile or a little bit less than an album mile all the way down. 00:09:01.528 --> 00:09:03.568 McDonald's to get her some real. 00:09:05.474 --> 00:09:07.033 So you tried the theater truck stops. 00:09:08.504 --> 00:09:14.413 No she wanted, she wanted to go to a sit down restaurant and have real food. 00:09:14.774 --> 00:09:24.464 Um, so, So you said, when I called initially that you would only eat there, if you were really kind of desperate, I guess, huh? 00:09:24.543 --> 00:09:25.624 no, no, no. 00:09:25.653 --> 00:09:27.214 That, that was just this one place. 00:09:27.214 --> 00:09:28.774 That was the story about my daughter. 00:09:29.043 --> 00:09:34.714 The only places that I can remember ever eating was. 00:09:36.224 --> 00:09:39.703 Uh, was it the Fe at the burns brothers? 00:09:39.703 --> 00:09:45.823 I think it you know, out on 10 joining, you know, between LA and, uh, Phoenix. 00:09:47.308 --> 00:09:54.479 But see, I can only remember eating when I was star and they had tacos one night at this buffet. 00:09:54.479 --> 00:10:00.389 That was the, that was the best food I remembered the truck stops 00:10:03.374 --> 00:10:03.974 All right, man. 00:10:04.058 --> 00:10:04.828 Oh, 00:10:05.249 --> 00:10:11.399 Um, I'm going to try and make a quick hit episode is when I'm going to try and do and talk 00:10:11.408 --> 00:10:12.278 Oh, have a 00:10:12.479 --> 00:10:14.219 five Or D yeah. 00:10:14.249 --> 00:10:16.558 Four or five different of our drivers. 00:10:16.798 --> 00:10:20.729 you know, What, what do you like to eat today? 00:10:20.729 --> 00:10:22.288 and what, what's your Favorite? 00:10:22.288 --> 00:10:23.609 that maybe isn't around anymore? 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:28.499 Val has a couple, I'm going to kind of center it around those and I do 00:10:28.563 --> 00:10:28.984 Yes. 00:10:28.984 --> 00:10:40.864 See, you see, see if you're back in the Midwest and the old time places had,

you know, classic places, but I never did really eat at those places. 00:10:40.864 --> 00:10:44.854 You know, like that was the best place I ever ate. 00:10:46.198 --> 00:10:48.899 Well, a buffet was up Mesquite. 00:10:49.139 --> 00:10:55.708 One of those, uh, casinos, it's all torn down now, you know, it's, it's in Mesquite. 00:10:55.708 --> 00:11:01.499 If you got 50 gallon fuel going north, uh, you could eat a buffet there. 00:11:01.499 --> 00:11:02.188 That was pretty 00:11:02.413 --> 00:11:02.744 Yeah. 00:11:02.744 --> 00:11:04.604 like the, uh, wasn't it. 00:11:04.724 --> 00:11:10.994 Well, when I first started driving by there, it was like a 2 99 for a prime rib or something. 00:11:11.504 --> 00:11:12.043 Wasn't it. 00:11:12.104 --> 00:11:14.953 If you got 50 gallons of fuel and 00:11:16.979 --> 00:11:17.219 Yeah. 00:11:17.249 --> 00:11:18.208 2 99. 00:11:18.524 --> 00:11:19.214 yeah. 00:11:19.933 --> 00:11:25.153 Oh myself. 00:11:25.244 --> 00:11:25.813 That's okay. 00:11:25.958 --> 00:11:26.499 yeah. 00:11:26.528 --> 00:11:27.099 Yeah. 00:11:27.884 --> 00:11:28.244 All right. 00:11:28.538 --> 00:11:29.469 that happens. 00:11:29.678 --> 00:11:30.668 Carl's Jr. 00:11:30.668 --> 00:11:32.229 Is the best you can get now. 00:11:34.989 --> 00:11:40.658 Oh, you know, that place, you know, we haul that cheese in the, in and out, in and out as good hamburger. 00:11:41.624 --> 00:11:54.673 Let's see, let's see, uh, just the other day, uh, I want somewhere with some of my family and they were talking anyway, it came out, you know, we went to some restaurant, right. 00:11:55.214 --> 00:11:57.163 And, uh, they're ordering this or that. 00:11:57.163 --> 00:12:05.264 And the other, we, on the way out, I said to my wife, you know, it's a sad story when, uh, Carl's Jr. 00:12:05.504 --> 00:12:06.583 Is your favorite 00:12:10.078 --> 00:12:10.798 See, I don't 00:12:11.009 --> 00:12:12.568 says, yeah, yeah. 00:12:12.568 --> 00:12:13.619 I know the feeling. 00:12:13.859 --> 00:12:15.509 a lot of people hate subway. 00:12:15.869 --> 00:12:16.418 Um, 00:12:16.938 --> 00:12:18.168 Oh, the subway is good 00:12:18.389 --> 00:12:23.364 I'm not like it's not, you know, if I'm in Logan and I got my pick of. 00:12:24.374 --> 00:12:25.783 A hundred places to eat. 00:12:26.173 --> 00:12:26.653 I'm not. 00:12:26.953 --> 00:12:36.854 going out of my way to eat subway, but on the road, you, you know what you're going to get, you know, you there's not. 00:12:36.999 --> 00:12:37.568 yeah, 00:12:38.114 --> 00:12:44.943 And, Um, like McDonald's, and some of the burger places, um, I've had some. 00:12:46.109 --> 00:12:50.818 like they've overdone it with the salt or it wasn't cooked quite right. 00:12:50.818 --> 00:12:56.249 And I'm not a huge I'll eat McDonald's I don't want to sound like, I'm, 00:12:57.344 --> 00:12:58.004 oh, I know 00:12:58.379 --> 00:12:59.188 holier than now. 00:12:59.188 --> 00:13:05.729 And I won't eat McDonald's or burger king, but if I've got my preference you know, I, it like a Love's it's Carl's Jr. 00:13:05.729 --> 00:13:06.239 In subway. 00:13:06.269 --> 00:13:07.318 I'll probably eat subway. 00:13:08.158 --> 00:13:08.548 So. 00:13:08.739 --> 00:13:09.278 Yeah. 00:13:09.369 --> 00:13:09.969 Oh yeah. 00:13:10.509 --> 00:13:12.489 And see, I like hot food. 00:13:12.818 --> 00:13:18.519 So that's the main reason I don't eat subway all the time, because I feel the same way. 00:13:18.668 --> 00:13:20.879 Subway is good stuff, 00:13:21.524 --> 00:13:22.244 It's somewhat, 00:13:22.749 --> 00:13:23.631 stuff hot, 00:13:23.744 --> 00:13:24.193 somewhat 00:13:24.363 --> 00:13:26.619 I like it hotter than a sandwich, right? 00:13:26.683 --> 00:13:27.494 It's healthy. 00:13:27.494 --> 00:13:28.394 It's somewhat healthy. 00:13:28.394 --> 00:13:28.724 Like, 00:13:29.168 --> 00:13:29.889 Oh yeah. 00:13:29.918 --> 00:13:30.339 Really 00:13:30.734 --> 00:13:31.094 yeah. 00:13:31.124 --> 00:13:31.724 Everything. 00:13:31.839 --> 00:13:33.278 of the lettuce and everything. 00:13:33.278 --> 00:13:33.755 Yeah. 00:13:34.094 --> 00:13:39.344 You know, if I'm just trying to stay away from Greece, all I'll do subway instead of Carl's Jr. 00:13:39.344 --> 00:13:39.553 But 00:13:40.104 --> 00:13:40.644 Yeah. 00:13:40.764 --> 00:13:41.333 Oh yeah. 00:13:41.413 --> 00:13:41.774 anyway. 00:13:42.374 --> 00:13:42.854 All right, buddy. 00:13:43.004 --> 00:13:43.604 Be careful. 00:13:44.394 --> 00:13:45.774 Hey, thanks again. 00:13:45.823 --> 00:13:46.033 bet. 00:13:46.033 --> 00:13:46.604 We'll see you, Mike. 00:13:47.413 --> 00:13:47.783 Bye bye. 00:13:57.337 --> 00:13:58.988 It was great talking to Mike Roberts. 00:13:58.988 --> 00:14:00.638 Again, he's been on the podcast before. 00:14:00.638 --> 00:14:01.807 He's always a great interview. 00:14:01.807 --> 00:14:05.947 I love talking to Mike on the phone and uh, and, and chitchatting with him. 00:14:06.337 --> 00:14:12.368 We, I failed to address in the first segment, why Becky is co-hosting this week. 00:14:12.457 --> 00:14:13.508 So Becky, 00:14:14.258 --> 00:14:30.967 well, our daughter, grace, your normal co-host and who is much more, um, Seasoned much more seasoned podcaster with mark and has a much better, uh, on air comedic relief. 00:14:31.957 --> 00:14:36.878 Uh, she is she's on a study abroad to Rome, Italy. 00:14:37.403 --> 00:14:38.153 The summer. 00:14:38.153 --> 00:14:41.633 So she's been over in Rome for the last two weeks. 00:14:41.633 --> 00:14:43.883 I think she's got one more week there and then she'll head home. 00:14:43.883 --> 00:14:47.332 But I think it's been a real great experience for her. 00:14:47.332 --> 00:14:49.163 She's gotten to go to the Vatican twice. 00:14:49.192 --> 00:14:55.852 They've been down to Florence, uh, but it seems like she's doing an awful lot of homework, so I'm not sure that 00:14:55.988 --> 00:14:56.258 a lot of 00:14:56.543 --> 00:15:01.102 not a lot of fun, but I think she's gotten to see some pretty neat

things. 00:15:01.102 --> 00:15:03.863 And, um, I think is looking forward to coming home. 00:15:03.863 --> 00:15:06.472 I got a text from her this morning that said when you picked me up at the airport, 00:15:07.238 --> 00:15:07.868 bring me chicken. 00:15:09.038 --> 00:15:09.548 Cool. 00:15:09.998 --> 00:15:11.018 Yeah, that'll be fun. 00:15:11.018 --> 00:15:12.337 I think we do that in a week. 00:15:13.207 --> 00:15:16.778 So you had mentioned and then this next segment, it's Troy Jensen. 00:15:16.778 --> 00:15:28.508 We talk about a couple of truck stops in Idaho, and I specifically talk about the Boise stage stop Cause the stage stop is one of my favorites. 00:15:28.557 --> 00:15:32.577 It's one of the first I remember going to out here, when we moved to Utah, we. 00:15:33.128 --> 00:15:33.398 went to. 00:15:34.222 --> 00:15:35.452 Game and Boise and I, 00:15:35.753 --> 00:15:37.972 We had to stop at the, at the Boise stage stop. 00:15:38.393 --> 00:15:49.702 And, um, one of the things that I found that was interesting about the Boise stage stop was that it is one of the oldest, continuously operating businesses in Idaho that started in 1891. 00:15:49.883 --> 00:15:52.373 So it was truly a stage stop, 00:15:53.182 --> 00:15:53.783 probably 00:15:53.993 --> 00:15:56.962 symbolize in in 18, 89, 18 91. 00:15:57.832 --> 00:15:58.763 Well, that was very cool. 00:15:58.763 --> 00:16:01.883 We'll hop right into our interview with Troy Jensen. 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.191 I want to talk about truck, stop food. 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:14.140 Okay. 00:16:15.100 --> 00:16:17.890 What, what, what was your favorite place to eat? 00:16:17.951 --> 00:16:19.691 Whether it's still open or not. 00:16:19.841 --> 00:16:21.311 And what's your favorite place today? 00:16:21.702 --> 00:16:30.746 Probably back when I started leaving the state was the travelers always this up there in twin falls? 00:16:32.451 --> 00:16:33.261 let's still there. 00:16:33.261 --> 00:16:34.312 That the same one. 00:16:35.106 --> 00:16:35.437 Yeah. 00:16:35.437 --> 00:16:42.876 I don't know if the food's as good as, it used to be, but that was my favorite for a long time. 00:16:44.081 --> 00:16:44.892 They opened a second. 00:16:45.575 --> 00:16:48.004 Right down by, uh, Chobani's plant. 00:16:50.245 --> 00:16:50.695 Yeah. 00:16:50.745 --> 00:16:50.924 Yeah. 00:16:50.965 --> 00:16:57.625 I actually, I, so just this week I had gone out to Fernley and turned a guy around and he gave me a load of cans. 00:16:57.715 --> 00:17:06.384 I took those cans up to a Pocatello and I came through twin falls right across 74 or whatever it is. 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:12.839 And then you drive by Chobani and there's a new travelers away SIS, right by the Chobani plant. 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:14.759 Yeah. 00:17:15.390 --> 00:17:17.454 I mean the one out by the interstate is still there. 00:17:17.874 --> 00:17:21.499 I don't know that I've ever eaten That's the travelers racist. 00:17:22.419 --> 00:17:23.288 My favorite thing. 00:17:23.318 --> 00:17:26.078 I love chicken fried steak and they used to bring out. 00:17:26.078 --> 00:17:32.648 A chicken fried steak on One of those big oval plates that took the whole plate up and overlapped. 00:17:33.983 --> 00:17:35.693 the rest of your food was on a different 00:17:36.023 --> 00:17:37.733 Did you ever have one at BoomTown 00:17:39.384 --> 00:17:39.894 I didn't 00:17:40.044 --> 00:17:41.453 BoomTown was the same way? 00:17:42.564 --> 00:17:47.003 I only went through there, like maybe twice what it was an actual truck stop. 00:17:47.034 --> 00:17:47.634 Oh, really? 00:17:48.294 --> 00:17:48.773 Yeah. 00:17:49.733 --> 00:17:57.084 I got stuck there one day for about 18 hours and yeah, the, I ordered the chicken fried steak. 00:17:57.084 --> 00:17:58.584 I want chicken fried steak fan too. 00:17:58.584 --> 00:18:00.443 And she says, do you want a full or a half? 00:18:01.509 --> 00:18:02.618 Oh, I'm pretty hungry. 00:18:02.618 --> 00:18:04.479 I suppose, the fall she says, are you sure? 00:18:06.459 --> 00:18:09.128 I'm like, yeah, she brought it out. 00:18:09.699 --> 00:18:12.338 It was bigger than my head, you know, it's like, oh, 00:18:13.318 --> 00:18:18.179 that's exactly what that lady up to Traveler's Oasis said, you want to hold her a half? 00:18:18.179 --> 00:18:20.038 And I says, well, a whole. 00:18:20.038 --> 00:18:22.348 And she says, are you sure you can eat that much? 00:18:24.128 --> 00:18:25.598 Well, how much is it? 00:18:25.598 --> 00:18:28.328 She brought it out in my eyeballs about fell out of my head. 00:18:28.328 --> 00:18:29.138 Holy shit. 00:18:31.989 --> 00:18:32.739 That's awesome. 00:18:34.328 --> 00:18:38.709 You ever eat at a oh, what's the one up there at the Boise stage stop. 00:18:40.219 --> 00:18:48.528 I haven't everybody's, you know, that's so many people's favorite place and I I've never been a big truck, truck stop. 00:18:49.098 --> 00:18:49.548 guy. 00:18:49.878 --> 00:18:50.358 I just. 00:18:51.999 --> 00:18:57.548 There was that, uh, I don't know if it's still open right there, and Wendell at farmers. 00:19:01.689 --> 00:19:02.409 you know what I'm talking. 00:19:02.439 --> 00:19:07.209 There's a little cafe and a little small, uh, truck stop Gas station. 00:19:07.209 --> 00:19:08.798 On the south side, 00:19:09.384 --> 00:19:13.134 Um, I know where you're talking about, but yeah. 00:19:13.398 --> 00:19:15.078 used to Stop in there quite a bit. 00:19:15.078 --> 00:19:16.759 When I was hauling milk up there. 00:19:18.148 --> 00:19:19.098 it was pretty good. 00:19:19.933 --> 00:19:20.773 I don't know why. 00:19:20.804 --> 00:19:22.243 Well, I like to eat. 00:19:22.874 --> 00:19:32.173 That's probably why, but I, as long as I can remember from when I first started driving, I stopped and ate at truck stops. 00:19:32.173 --> 00:19:33.673 I hardly ever packed food. 00:19:34.364 --> 00:19:45.074 You know, just snack stuff is all I'd ever pack, but I know I

didn't even have a cooler in the truck for the first, gosh, I don't know, 10, 10 or 15 years. 00:19:45.074 --> 00:19:45.403 I drove. 00:19:46.344 --> 00:19:56.804 I stayed out of the truck stops, but there was a lot, you know, you weren't limited to whatever fast food joint was in the Truckstop either. 00:19:57.648 --> 00:20:03.739 Well, for me, you know, the first 28, to 30 years, that I drove I was hauling milk. 00:20:03.769 --> 00:20:04.119 So 00:20:04.903 --> 00:20:05.173 Um 00:20:05.209 --> 00:20:12.318 I didn't even, even when we were shipping it far, you know, we'd go to Vegas and the Phoenix and the Denver, their last little. 00:20:13.558 --> 00:20:16.709 And even then I didn't didn't stop that much. 00:20:17.189 --> 00:20:23.189 I, When I first started, we had a load up through Snellville and I'd stopped in tamales or in Snellville. 00:20:23.338 --> 00:20:34.439 Occasionally if I had time And back then they had really good breakfast but very rarely until I started pretty much for you guys. 00:20:35.969 --> 00:20:37.558 And I, I like truck stops. 00:20:37.558 --> 00:20:39.868 I just, other than the parking running. 00:20:40.903 --> 00:20:42.374 Grab a part or something. 00:20:42.523 --> 00:20:55.814 I I never, well, I never even had a truck with a sleeper on it until there was a long time, but I have found one place. 00:20:55.814 --> 00:20:58.243 that, Well, I take that back. 00:20:58.243 --> 00:21:13.558 When, When Cooper used to come with since I've been driving for Stokes, we stopped Oh, there's a place in and, uh, I'll I'll tuna That Speedway restaurant is that. 00:21:13.693 --> 00:21:15.463 Uh, Altoona Iowa. 00:21:15.493 --> 00:21:26.263 It's a, it's probably the it's at the pilot, but it was bought, it was a and, um, all the restaurants in Balsall mins were called grandma Max's I don't know if they still are. 00:21:27.769 --> 00:21:30.810 that we, we had some really good meals in there 00:21:31.544 --> 00:21:31.874 Yup. 00:21:32.778 --> 00:21:39.973 And then, Uh, The big, big one that, that restaurant in there was 00:21:40.588 --> 00:21:40.888 Yep. 00:21:41.848 --> 00:21:42.118 Yeah. 00:21:42.118 --> 00:21:45.298 See, I maybe it's maybe it's because of where I grew up trucking. 00:21:47.068 --> 00:21:50.189 Even really close to where my parents' farm was. 00:21:51.239 --> 00:22:13.798 So three miles from there was, there were two truck stops across the road from each other that were like old time, right in the, going back to the fifties, forties and fifties, that highway that my parents' farm was close to was the main highway between Omaha and Denver. 00:22:15.419 --> 00:22:15.628 So. 00:22:16.513 --> 00:22:20.894 Their house was about 40 miles, 40 to 50 miles west of Omaha. 00:22:20.923 --> 00:22:30.065 So it was one of the first places anybody would stop on their way to Denver or the last place they'd stop on their way from Denver to Omaha, you know that the meat hollers. 00:22:31.243 --> 00:22:32.173 So these two. 00:22:33.358 --> 00:22:35.159 Neither of them exist anymore. 00:22:35.219 --> 00:22:38.939 They're both gas stations now, but they're not truck stops. 00:22:38.939 --> 00:22:52.499 But when I was a little kid, they were still truck stops where truck drivers would, you know, we'd go in there for breakfast or in the afternoons, dad go there to have coffee and there'd be truck drivers in there stopping to have their. 00:22:53.278 --> 00:22:53.939 For the day. 00:22:55.229 --> 00:23:07.288 And when now I, this predates me, but my parents, my dad told me when they first moved there in the sixties, both of those were 24 hour restaurants, truck stops, right? 00:23:07.288 --> 00:23:08.489 Like full service. 00:23:08.939 --> 00:23:10.199 You pull up to the pump and. 00:23:11.173 --> 00:23:16.814 Like in smokey and the bandit, you know, fill it up, give me a Diablo sandwich and a Dr. 00:23:16.814 --> 00:23:17.173 Pepper. 00:23:17.173 --> 00:23:18.253 I'm like, God damn hurry. 00:23:18.253 --> 00:23:18.493 Right. 00:23:18.493 --> 00:23:19.213 Kind of place. 00:23:21.433 --> 00:23:28.933 So then when I started driving, because that was what I, you know, smoking in the bandit and BJ and the bear, that's kind of what I grew up on. 00:23:29.594 --> 00:23:31.874 I did stop at a lot of truck stops. 00:23:32.054 --> 00:23:34.334 Like I never left on time. 00:23:34.334 --> 00:23:38.564 I'd drive all night long and I'd stop at 24 hour restaurants. 00:23:40.423 --> 00:23:41.894 I dunno, I was horrible. 00:23:44.564 --> 00:23:45.253 I'm so lucky. 00:23:45.253 --> 00:23:46.853 I never got in trouble, 00:23:47.439 --> 00:23:55.304 I would have, if, if you know, they were there, Along the routes that I went there was there just wasn't that many, 00:23:55.554 --> 00:24:01.463 yeah, back in the Midwest, there were quite a few, I guess, like places like that, close to where I grew up. 00:24:02.003 --> 00:24:05.094 Um, but they don't exist hardly. 00:24:05.094 --> 00:24:07.104 Any of them exist anymore, you know? 00:24:09.269 --> 00:24:09.719 All right. 00:24:09.929 --> 00:24:11.909 Well, this was fun. 00:24:12.118 --> 00:24:13.259 Thanks for taking my call. 00:24:13.894 --> 00:24:14.284 Sure. 00:24:15.449 --> 00:24:16.169 Be careful. 00:24:16.229 --> 00:24:17.848 We'll uh, we'll we'll chat soon. 00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:31.160 One thing about east of the Mississippi though, those are the originals man. 00:24:31.339 --> 00:24:42.829 Like those are the kinds of places we can talk about this, but I always knew it was going to be a good place to eat if I walked in and I see. 00:24:44.565 --> 00:24:46.948 And Little jukeboxes at the booth. 00:24:48.194 --> 00:24:50.115 It was a bingo. 00:24:50.144 --> 00:24:50.414 this. 00:24:50.414 --> 00:24:51.134 is the spot. 00:24:51.194 --> 00:24:55.335 So tell me about Walcott about the IAT Iowa 80 00:24:55.605 --> 00:24:56.794 for 20 years. 00:24:57.075 --> 00:25:00.855 I think I remember eating there with, we've been to, we've been there before.

00:25:01.184 --> 00:25:01.845 probably 00:25:02.144 --> 00:25:03.884 Um, it's like the largest, 00:25:04.144 --> 00:25:05.644 it's the world's largest truck 00:25:05.654 --> 00:25:05.894 stop. 00:25:06.125 --> 00:25:07.174 that's their claim. 00:25:07.595 --> 00:25:15.035 And I don't know if they're going off of acreage or parking spaces or The stop itself. 00:25:15.065 --> 00:25:17.615 I mean, all, everything about it is huge. 00:25:17.644 --> 00:25:21.244 There's a gigantic truck museum. 00:25:21.964 --> 00:25:30.000 that they continue to add on to, trucking in the Midwest because of the location. 00:25:31.171 --> 00:25:31.500 Right. 00:25:31.530 --> 00:25:35.580 Walcott's 160 miles from Chicago. 00:25:35.580 --> 00:25:39.631 It's right in the center of the country, everything transited through there. 00:25:39.661 --> 00:25:42.961 So, so Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, 00:25:42.971 --> 00:25:43.290 Ohio, 00:25:44.070 --> 00:25:47.296 I would call that like the of trucking. 00:25:47.566 --> 00:25:47.925 Right. 00:25:48.256 --> 00:25:50.326 And so the truck stops there 00:25:50.520 --> 00:25:51.270 kind of grew up around 00:25:51.435 --> 00:25:51.945 Yeah. 00:25:51.945 --> 00:25:59.865 And they were, they were the original ones that when we talk about restaurants and I said, if it had. 00:25:59.865 --> 00:26:01.726 a Jukebox in the booth. 00:26:02.266 --> 00:26:06.115 A lot of those places, when I first started driving, you could find those. 00:26:06.346 --> 00:26:09.165 I mean, it was regular you'd walk in somewhere and see, that. 00:26:09.256 --> 00:26:19.695 was that a truck stop restaurant in or the Ashland that had the big guy? 00:26:20.355 --> 00:26:21.405 Was it the Ashland? 00:26:21.685 --> 00:26:23.096 Oh, the happy chef. 00:26:23.246 --> 00:26:23.635 Yeah. 00:26:23.996 --> 00:26:25.675 They were as happy chefs all over the Midwest. 00:26:25.675 --> 00:26:27.266 There's still some of them up in Minnesota. 00:26:28.316 --> 00:26:32.036 There's a guy I follow on Instagram called his name's flannel Phillip. 00:26:32.036 --> 00:26:35.665 He He's like a Instagram influencer in 00:26:35.681 --> 00:26:35.951 trouble. 00:26:36.145 --> 00:26:39.346 I I'd say he actually drives up Peter. 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:40.151 or. 00:26:40.181 --> 00:26:45.401 Kenworth pulls dump bucket local in Minnesota, but he does pin striping and 00:26:45.641 --> 00:26:45.820 all 00:26:45.971 --> 00:26:47.891 repair work and all kinds of things. 00:26:47.891 --> 00:26:48.040 on the 00:26:48.101 --> 00:26:50.141 remember the days when he used to paint your tires? 00:26:50.411 --> 00:26:54.401 he, don't tell anybody we gotta cut that out. 00:26:55.990 --> 00:26:57.701 final Phillip on Instagram. 00:26:57.701 --> 00:26:58.661 And He's a good follow. 00:26:58.661 --> 00:27:03.131 He he'd post a lot of trucking stuff, but just this week he posted a big 00:27:03.221 --> 00:27:03.520 point 00:27:04.221 --> 00:27:05.480 Did he drove by in Minnesota. 00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.280 Like he posts pictures of things like that. 00:27:07.550 --> 00:27:08.000 trucks. 00:27:08.961 --> 00:27:09.141 Yeah. 00:27:09.141 --> 00:27:10.250 They're all over the Midwest. 00:27:10.590 --> 00:27:14.941 I guess we ought to hop right into our interview with Larry claimants. 00:27:15.030 --> 00:27:17.730 Larry drives truck 6 77 for us. 00:27:17.760 --> 00:27:21.181 He's one of our newer drivers, but he's been around. 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:22.500 He's got, a. 00:27:23.721 --> 00:27:28.941 want to throw his age out there, but I think he's pushing 40 years driving truck. 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:30.471 So he knows his stuff. 00:27:30.471 --> 00:27:50.289 When it comes to truck stop restaurants So I'm wondering what your favorite Truckstop restaurant in your career has been, whether it's still still in business or not. 00:27:51.744 --> 00:27:57.384 oh, uh, it's Berets up in Montana on interstate 15. 00:27:57.505 --> 00:27:58.704 It's all home cooked. 00:27:58.704 --> 00:28:00.115 It's a small cafe. 00:28:00.204 --> 00:28:00.894 It's awesome. 00:28:00.894 --> 00:28:01.345 Food. 00:28:01.529 --> 00:28:02.440 where's it at 00:28:03.055 --> 00:28:04.285 Barrett's Montana. 00:28:04.329 --> 00:28:05.470 Barrett's Montana. 00:28:05.470 --> 00:28:05.829 That's the 00:28:05.994 --> 00:28:06.444 Uh huh. 00:28:07.045 --> 00:28:07.355 Yeah. 00:28:07.355 --> 00:28:11.545 It's it's uh, probably 20, maybe 20 miles south of. 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:14.920 On interstate 15. 00:28:15.009 --> 00:28:16.029 Oh my God, mark. 00:28:16.690 --> 00:28:20.230 They got the best breakfast in burgers you'll ever eat. 00:28:20.529 --> 00:28:21.549 Everything's home cook. 00:28:21.910 --> 00:28:22.269 Yeah. 00:28:22.539 --> 00:28:34.750 The, even the bond, you know, they're not the bonds, like you'd get out of the, you know, the bag and that, you know, they're not even, you know, they're little smoked or whatever, but man, it's awesome food. 00:28:34.795 --> 00:28:35.515 all by hand. 00:28:35.515 --> 00:28:35.755 Huh? 00:28:36.190 --> 00:28:36.730 Yes. 00:28:37.164 --> 00:28:37.944 No kidding. 00:28:38.184 --> 00:28:38.335 And 00:28:38.416 --> 00:28:45.460 They And then like the, uh, sausage, uh, omelets that the Italian sausage. 00:28:45.549 --> 00:28:46.329 Oh my God. 00:28:46.329 --> 00:28:47.559 It's got an awesome taste. 00:28:49.255 --> 00:28:50.244 that's a, that's a new one. 00:28:50.244 --> 00:28:52.404 I've never, I've never heard of it. 00:28:52.404 --> 00:28:53.634 I don't think I've ever been up through 00:28:53.857 --> 00:29:02.289 yeah it's uh, like I say, it's probably maybe not 20 miles, maybe 12 miles, 10, 12 miles south of Dylan. 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.029 Right on interstate 15 as you go past, uh, Glen's resume. 00:29:08.634 --> 00:29:12.025 And that it would be as bad as you go through that canyon. 00:29:12.144 --> 00:29:12.664 You'll see. 00:29:12.684 --> 00:29:16.345 Um, Gibbs' a Jetson plant on the right. 00:29:16.674 --> 00:29:27.684 And

then on the very left as you go north, you'll see barracks, it's a small, it's a small truck stop con you know, I mean, it's not, you know, it's all gravel and dirt. 00:29:27.714 --> 00:29:34.734 I mean, there's, I think there's like two pumps for trucks, diesel trucks, and a couple for cars, but mark, you're get up there. 00:29:34.855 --> 00:29:35.815 You've got to stop. 00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:37.769 so, so it's not a chain at all. 00:29:37.769 --> 00:29:38.250 It's it's 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.299 No no, no. 00:29:40.329 --> 00:29:40.690 Uh, 00:29:41.579 --> 00:29:42.210 awesome. 00:29:43.420 --> 00:29:44.769 I marked, you got to go there. 00:29:45.329 --> 00:29:46.567 If you ever get a chance. 00:29:47.859 --> 00:29:55.750 That's one of the things I miss about not going up in the Northwest because we always everybody's stopped at Barrett's and that, 00:29:56.950 --> 00:29:59.369 w maybe I'll have to go up there this summer. 00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:01.809 Me and me and my wife were talking about taking vacation. 00:30:01.930 --> 00:30:02.470 know what? 00:30:02.710 --> 00:30:03.339 Go up there. 00:30:03.339 --> 00:30:05.440 There's a, up on the 90. 00:30:06.654 --> 00:30:07.704 There's a neat place. 00:30:07.704 --> 00:30:14.875 It's right next to the Clark, uh, Clark, uh, w the, the Clark Clark river, I think it's a Clark river. 00:30:15.325 --> 00:30:18.684 It's uh, God, it's bear. 00:30:21.265 --> 00:30:21.605 Damn. 00:30:21.625 --> 00:30:22.944 I wish my memory was better. 00:30:23.484 --> 00:30:24.174 Bear lodge. 00:30:24.174 --> 00:30:25.105 I think it is. 00:30:25.585 --> 00:30:27.144 And it's rat the law. 00:30:27.204 --> 00:30:31.015 It's an old style hotel and it's red on the banks of the. 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:34.539 And what's nice. 00:30:34.690 --> 00:30:37.329 There's a golf course, just up a few miles down the road 00:30:37.585 --> 00:30:38.095 Oh, really? 00:30:38.740 --> 00:30:40.960 that never played it, but it looks awesome. 00:30:43.345 --> 00:30:44.095 That's cool. 00:30:44.994 --> 00:30:48.714 Well, both, both those places sound awesome. 00:30:48.714 --> 00:30:49.164 I need, to 00:30:49.329 --> 00:30:51.730 yeah Oh yes. 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.450 But I mean, you better have got the stuff at the Berets. 00:30:56.890 --> 00:31:03.339 I mean, it's, you know, there's a big devastation suit that fresh ground hamburger, not, you know what I mean? 00:31:03.644 --> 00:31:04.005 Yeah. 00:31:04.329 --> 00:31:12.220 And, and, uh, you know, the thick slides is, uh, bacon and that, oh yeah, man, I'm hungry now. 00:31:15.684 --> 00:31:16.285 Sorry. 00:31:17.349 --> 00:31:22.660 Yeah, that's a good, but yeah, mark that's by far, my favorite far and away. 00:31:23.065 --> 00:31:23.694 Awesome. 00:31:23.904 --> 00:31:25.414 I'll uh, I'll take you up on it. 00:31:25.444 --> 00:31:26.335 I appreciate it. 00:31:26.904 --> 00:31:27.535 you bet. 00:31:27.654 --> 00:31:28.285 All right, Larry. 00:31:28.285 --> 00:31:29.184 That was all I needed. 00:31:29.755 --> 00:31:30.115 Okay. 00:31:30.144 --> 00:31:30.865 Thanks mark. 00:31:30.865 --> 00:31:32.065 We'll talk to you later, boss 00:31:32.095 --> 00:31:32.335 right. 00:31:32.335 --> 00:31:32.845 See you, sir. 00:31:32.875 --> 00:31:33.595 You have good day. 00:31:33.625 --> 00:31:34.075 Bye bye-bye. 00:31:44.365 --> 00:31:44.875 Okay, mark. 00:31:44.875 --> 00:31:49.285 So of these two truck stop restaurants, which one have you eaten at 00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:51.279 which tour though is 00:31:51.684 --> 00:31:52.795 the taste of India, 00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:54.099 which is in. 00:31:54.355 --> 00:31:56.394 in over to Nebraska, 00:31:56.684 --> 00:31:58.125 exit 2 48. 00:31:58.755 --> 00:32:01.065 It's a former burns brothers truck stop. 00:32:01.605 --> 00:32:03.825 I would've eaten there when he was a burns brothers. 00:32:04.305 --> 00:32:04.964 Or 00:32:05.204 --> 00:32:07.095 haven't eaten there since 00:32:07.125 --> 00:32:10.664 you're answering, you're answering the question too fast. 00:32:10.934 --> 00:32:14.394 Or max is thunder road grill at the boss. 00:32:15.015 --> 00:32:18.285 So I have eaten at Max's thunder road grill. 00:32:18.315 --> 00:32:22.815 Now we gotta go back up a little bit, cause that used to be called grandma. 00:32:22.845 --> 00:32:23.204 Mack's. 00:32:24.134 --> 00:32:28.035 All the Bosselman truck stops had grandma Max's restaurants in them. 00:32:29.424 --> 00:32:32.684 I'm not sure when the Max's thunder road grill came around. 00:32:33.255 --> 00:32:40.424 I know I've eaten there one time since it's been rebranded and that's at exit three 12. 00:32:41.307 --> 00:32:45.375 On the north side of the road, it's pilot truck stop, but it used to be a boss Hillman's 00:32:45.555 --> 00:32:46.484 on IAT. 00:32:46.575 --> 00:32:48.315 in in, Nebraska 00:32:48.765 --> 00:32:50.115 at exit 2 48. 00:32:50.144 --> 00:32:51.525 Is this taste of India, 00:32:51.674 --> 00:32:57.704 which I've found on several sites is like the most popular Truckstop restaurant in Nebraska. 00:32:57.944 --> 00:33:03.644 you do a little Googling, you will find that there are people that drive hundreds of miles. 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:11.900 To eat at the taste of India at the overtime exit in Nebraska at, at an old burns brothers truck stop. 00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:15.259 Uh, not my kind of 00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:17.789 I would stop there. 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:29.019 Well, we usually, usually when we're tracking back to Nebraska, we got to stop at Yes The taco time of, of Nebraska. 00:33:31.349 --> 00:33:37.140 but I, I, I'm going to tell all the listeners that when we travel back to Nebraska, 00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:37.710 a family 00:33:38.609 --> 00:33:41.700 It has never drive through and grab food and keep on trucking. 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.400 It is we have to stop and eat 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:45.450 sit down 00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:52.019 and sit down and it, it comes from you and your truck driving and sitting

at these restaurants 00:33:53.054 --> 00:33:53.750 well 00:33:53.849 --> 00:33:54.269 the road. 00:33:54.299 --> 00:33:55.859 And you don't want food in your truck. 00:33:55.890 --> 00:33:56.009 Yeah 00:33:56.069 --> 00:33:57.990 A lot of it is you guys are too messy to eat. 00:33:58.289 --> 00:34:01.829 vehicle think you're too 00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:06.319 like, well, I to eat and not worry about spilling on 00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:06.539 myself. 00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:13.250 sometimes when you're like, how'd you eat that so fast while I'm trying to eat it before it falls all over my lap. 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.519 So the quicker I can ingest it, 00:34:17.425 --> 00:34:18.835 And you had to get back out on the road tail, 00:34:20.179 --> 00:34:22.610 uh, back in the day. 00:34:22.849 --> 00:34:26.000 He didn't worry quite so much, but your schedule like you do today, 00:34:27.204 --> 00:34:32.005 well, to worry a lot more about my schedule for lunch. 00:34:32.775 --> 00:34:33.525 Taught high school. 00:34:33.525 --> 00:34:35.355 And I only a certain amount of 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.099 28 minutes between bells. 00:34:37.155 --> 00:34:37.800 probably. 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:39.590 All right. 00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:56.849 Let's uh, roll into our next interview with Gary Hughes driver of truck 6 83 Can I bug you a minute. 00:34:57.148 --> 00:34:57.389 Yup. 00:34:57.818 --> 00:35:00.083 I'm recording some segments for the podcast 00:35:00.338 --> 00:35:00.878 Okay. 00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:03.168 and I'm doing it on Truckstop food. 00:35:04.768 --> 00:35:05.188 Oh, 00:35:07.248 --> 00:35:15.521 So I'm trying to, I'm trying to call some of my older, more experienced drivers to find out where their favorite place to eat was. 00:35:16.449 --> 00:35:17.969 my favorite place used to be. 00:35:19.168 --> 00:35:22.108 Mini any Petro, just one of the iron skillets in there. 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.099 Yeah, the iron skillets used to be the best. 00:35:25.768 --> 00:35:27.599 When you say used to be how many years ago? 00:35:28.099 --> 00:35:28.759 I don't know. 00:35:28.759 --> 00:35:39.498 I'm going to say over the last, probably about 10 years ago and before that, but over the last 10 years, I, well, it was right around the time that TA bottom out. 00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:43.068 they, uh, they kind of went downhill. 00:35:43.074 --> 00:35:44.264 How one was that? 00:35:44.443 --> 00:35:47.623 Um, mid, mid two thousands, right? 00:35:47.623 --> 00:35:49.543 Like, oh 5 0 6, somewhere in there. 00:35:50.179 --> 00:35:51.918 Yeah, right around in there. 00:35:52.543 --> 00:35:55.333 Any other little independence you ever liked eating at? 00:35:56.128 --> 00:35:58.588 Uh, JJs and Arkansas. 00:35:58.619 --> 00:35:59.759 I think it's it though. 00:35:59.789 --> 00:36:00.898 1 0 5. 00:36:00.898 --> 00:36:03.119 They used to be pretty good, but I haven't been there. 00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.068 And I'm going to say in probably 10, 12 years. 00:36:09.478 -->

00:36:11.210 Um, no, it's 30. 00:36:11.838 --> 00:36:16.579 Oh, down between a little rock and, and Dallas, I guess. 00:36:17.608 --> 00:36:18.778 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:18.809 --> 00:36:19.449 Right around there. 00:36:19.449 --> 00:36:21.989 It's Just south of, a little rock there. 00:36:22.608 --> 00:36:25.409 I think it's around the 1 0 5, 1 0 6 something like that. 00:36:25.409 --> 00:36:26.548 They used to be pretty good. 00:36:27.389 --> 00:36:39.097 And then my fate, my favorite all time, place to go eat breakfast would be the, pancake house and Gedo mills they're on and Texas. 00:36:40.014 --> 00:36:41.393 Hmm, that's a new one. 00:36:41.744 --> 00:36:43.284 That there's one I haven't heard of. 00:36:44.414 --> 00:36:44.804 Yeah. 00:36:44.833 --> 00:36:49.664 It's called the pancake house It's right across the street from the pilot there in Cato mills. 00:36:50.264 --> 00:36:57.943 You could go in there, sausage, egg, a couple of pancakes, French toast, whichever one you want a cup of coffee. 00:36:57.943 --> 00:36:59.523 And you'd get out of there for less than eight 00:37:00.833 --> 00:37:01.213 Really. 00:37:02.128 --> 00:37:02.458 Yeah. 00:37:02.518 --> 00:37:03.929 And it was actually pretty good. 00:37:06.809 --> 00:37:08.518 I mean, it, it was actually good. 00:37:08.518 --> 00:37:13.588 I mean, it wasn't, you could tell, uh, the sausage patties weren't like completely round. 00:37:13.619 --> 00:37:20.818 They would be know, it looked like he got Like he made them by hand, they'd be thrown you know, thrown together. 00:37:20.818 --> 00:37:25.079 and they, It wouldn't be perfectly round or, you know, frozen or anything like that. 00:37:26.128 --> 00:37:27.829 they were actually really, really 00:37:28.898 --> 00:37:29.199 Hmm. 00:37:29.949 --> 00:37:30.248 Okay. 00:37:30.278 --> 00:37:31.688 You got to look up the town. 00:37:33.463 --> 00:37:35.653 There is a truck stop at a town in Missouri. 00:37:35.653 --> 00:37:41.563 I used to drive through all the time that had, that was cheap. 00:37:41.653 --> 00:37:43.333 Like it was super cheap to eat at, 00:37:44.184 --> 00:37:44.603 Right? 00:37:44.804 --> 00:37:45.793 it tasted cheap. 00:37:47.233 --> 00:37:48.643 It was cheap for a reason, 00:37:49.813 --> 00:37:50.293 Right. 00:37:50.353 --> 00:37:55.123 There's a, used to be a place that we used to stop at, but I want to say. 00:37:56.039 --> 00:38:02.789 It's in Kentucky on I, 71, And I want to say It was just south of the racetrack there. 00:38:02.818 --> 00:38:11.188 When you got south of like a Walton Kentucky off of 71, I think it was like exit 62 and he'd get off the ramp and make a left. 00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:23.264 And they had truck parking and it looked like just a little hole in a wall, mom and pop place He used to go in there probably four or five times a month just to get in there when I was running And. 00:38:23.264 --> 00:38:26.173 uh, You could go in there and get a pretty decent meal. 00:38:26.653 --> 00:38:28.454 And I'd say if I remember right. 00:38:28.454 --> 00:38:39.463 And that's just been awhile, um, actually before I started pipeline and back in 2015, so it's been, I'm going to say probably eight or nine, maybe possibly 10 years. 00:38:39.943 --> 00:38:42.103 I don't even know if the place is still open, but it had BP. 00:38:42.103 --> 00:38:43.753 It was like a BP gas station. 00:38:43.784 --> 00:38:44.684 I had drug fuel. 00:38:45.143 --> 00:38:49.708 You go in there and sit down and And, uh, you could probably get out of there. 00:38:49.829 --> 00:38:51.688 I'd say probably 10 or 11 bucks. 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.009 And if you walked out. 00:38:53.009 --> 00:38:58.259 of there full, it was your own fault because they usually, the plate had more food on it than what you ever thought. 00:38:58.259 --> 00:38:59.039 it was going to have. 00:39:00.568 --> 00:39:05.009 Yeah, it was, they, They were really good and it was just a little mom and pop country place. 00:39:05.608 --> 00:39:08.458 And, uh, they were, they were, phenomenal, 00:39:08.943 --> 00:39:10.864 it was a little hole hole in a wall. 00:39:10.923 --> 00:39:14.054 Places always seemed to be the best 00:39:15.148 --> 00:39:20.518 And there was, um, a sub shop down on I 30 And. 00:39:20.548 --> 00:39:21.418 right there. 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.608 Let's see the da was no, it was the loves the loves. 00:39:26.608 --> 00:39:29.728 Was at one way off the exit And if you went the other way? 00:39:30.309 --> 00:39:33.039 We used to go in there and the best cheese, steak sandwiches. 00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:39.159 You can imagine, They'd, he'd say they're a foot long, but they're probably, I'm going to say probably 14 to 16. 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:40.012 I mean, they were huge 00:39:40.304 --> 00:39:42.543 He always gave you more than what you were, what you. 00:39:42.608 --> 00:39:42.909 yeah. 00:39:42.938 --> 00:39:51.833 And by the, And by the time put all the stuff on it and all the toppings and melted the cheese on it, that thing was probably about as big around as a softball. 00:39:52.193 --> 00:39:53.454 I mean, it was two meals. 00:39:53.844 --> 00:39:57.744 You go in there and it'd be like six, six, you know, six, seven bucks. 00:39:58.523 --> 00:40:00.744 And you could eat half of it. 00:40:00.773 --> 00:40:05.184 Wrap the other half up, and stick it in there and nuke it later and make two meals out of it. 00:40:05.184 --> 00:40:06.193 It was so much food. 00:40:06.244 --> 00:40:08.108 I was just like, you don't see that anymore. 00:40:08.918 --> 00:40:14.528 My, uh, my crappy restaurant was the snappy Mart in west Plains, Missouri that's. 00:40:15.188 --> 00:40:15.938 I looked it up 00:40:16.733 --> 00:40:17.844 I think I know where you're 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:23.918 w west Plains is, uh, almost due north of little rock. 00:40:24.278 --> 00:40:29.199 Um, not too far north, the Arkansas border is on the west side of the road. 00:40:29.983 --> 00:40:31.213 just north of Fayetteville.

00:40:31.869 --> 00:40:37.028 Uh, no, this is over more like the I'd call it south central, Missouri. 00:40:37.809 --> 00:40:39.668 Right in the middle of Missouri. 00:40:40.268 --> 00:40:43.059 So I delivered cooking oil to Batesville, Arkansas. 00:40:43.088 --> 00:40:44.199 There's a chicken plant there. 00:40:45.398 --> 00:40:49.478 And west Plains I'd stopped to get coffee quite often. 00:40:49.778 --> 00:40:54.548 Um, and they had a restaurant that had really, it was really cheap. 00:40:55.028 --> 00:41:01.418 Like I had a buddy that we made fun of him because he was cheap and he loved stopping there to eat, but it was cheap. 00:41:01.449 --> 00:41:02.168 It was cheap. 00:41:02.228 --> 00:41:05.048 Like it tasted, it was terrible. 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:06.429 It was terrible. 00:41:08.003 --> 00:41:10.224 But you could eat there for like five bucks, you know? 00:41:10.224 --> 00:41:11.603 I mean, you'd fill you up. 00:41:12.958 --> 00:41:14.478 you don't find waste as I get any 00:41:14.603 --> 00:41:22.134 No, no, there is another place on the north side of Batesville it was like the biggest barbecue restaurant in Batesville. 00:41:22.164 --> 00:41:27.443 They, they were, they were smoking about 20 pork butts a day, every day. 00:41:27.474 --> 00:41:30.443 So I'd go by, I'd go by there at two or three in the morning. 00:41:30.443 --> 00:41:31.134 And the smoker was. 00:41:32.244 --> 00:41:36.534 Because they were smoking all night long for, for the food for the whole day. 00:41:36.534 --> 00:41:45.353 I could go in there eight in the morning and get fresh right out of the smoker, pulled pork that they just pulled, you know, um, great. 00:41:45.414 --> 00:41:46.793 They had great barbecue. 00:41:47.483 --> 00:41:55.974 I can't, that was like a, uh, Conoco or something just right on the north side at, uh, Batesville, just a little, little, little truck. 00:41:55.974 --> 00:41:56.304 Stop. 00:41:56.463 --> 00:41:57.903 Anyway, the good old days. 00:41:57.963 --> 00:41:58.233 So 00:41:58.293 --> 00:41:59.373 And then, and 00:41:59.494 --> 00:41:59.943 you were, 00:42:00.081 --> 00:42:00.634 then a 00:42:00.724 --> 00:42:07.083 mentioned a lot of stuff on I guess you were running from Ohio to California. 00:42:08.164 --> 00:42:15.244 a lot of, Well, yeah, that a lot of Texas, um, we got a lot, of rent, a lot of air freight down to Southern Texas. 00:42:16.568 --> 00:42:19.929 Uh, San Antonio, Dallas Waco. 00:42:20.469 --> 00:42:25.148 Um, Matter of fact, we used to go down there and there was a little gas station off that exit. 00:42:25.148 --> 00:42:27.505 And I can remember to tell you what exit it was. 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.048 Um, it's right there, where the Waco airport was and we were running air freight down. 00:42:32.048 --> 00:42:34.389 There And when, uh, George Bush Jr. 00:42:34.389 --> 00:42:38.318 Was president and we would get off the exit. 00:42:38.798 --> 00:42:44.018 And I guess when he came in, when he flew in, I guess he

lived down in that area. 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:53.103 I'm not sure exactly where at, in that area, but we would come down there and they would have the road blocked off and We'd have to park at that gas station and go in. 00:42:53.103 --> 00:42:55.474 And I go in there and grab something to eat while we were waiting. 00:42:56.014 --> 00:43:07.233 And we'd have to wait for either him to land and watch his little entourage, you know, his little secret service guys and him or whoever, they would go flying out at a hundred mile an hour. 00:43:07.653 --> 00:43:14.628 And then they'd open it back up after his plane took back off, or if he was leaving, we'd have to wait for his plane to take off for us. 00:43:14.628 --> 00:43:15.903 to be able to get into the terminal. 00:43:16.278 --> 00:43:16.579 Hmm. 00:43:17.059 --> 00:43:17.603 Interesting. 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.318 There was another place real quick. 00:43:20.378 --> 00:43:25.028 Uh, south on the way down to Florida and lake park, Georgia, big Ed's barbecue. 00:43:25.449 --> 00:43:29.139 The only place on earth I've ever found to get barbecued Tuna, 00:43:29.789 --> 00:43:30.298 really? 00:43:31.224 --> 00:43:31.673 Yeah. 00:43:32.514 --> 00:43:33.923 used to advertise that. 00:43:34.349 --> 00:43:35.338 no kidding. 00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:36.059 Like smoke. 00:43:37.403 --> 00:43:37.643 Yup. 00:43:37.764 --> 00:43:41.724 He will actually smoke the tuna and based it, in barbecue sauce. 00:43:42.744 --> 00:43:44.153 never thought it sounded good. 00:43:44.184 --> 00:43:44.994 but I'm not going to lie. 00:43:45.023 --> 00:43:55.253 It's actually pretty damn Doesn't sound very appealing, but It's actually pretty good, but it was big ass barbecue in lake park. 00:43:55.253 --> 00:43:55.588 Georgia. 00:43:55.898 --> 00:43:56.648 Well, there's a new one. 00:43:56.949 --> 00:43:57.998 Never heard of that one either. 00:43:58.059 --> 00:43:59.918 I've been through there, but never heard of that. 00:44:01.028 --> 00:44:01.449 One of these 00:44:01.568 --> 00:44:04.449 He was a C the TA was at exit two. 00:44:05.048 --> 00:44:09.458 I don't remember where the pilot was at, but I believe, uh, he was an exit six. 00:44:10.329 --> 00:44:12.878 And he always advertised on the CB you'd drive by. 00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:15.068 And it'd be come in and come in and try it. 00:44:15.099 --> 00:44:16.239 big heads, barbecue. 00:44:17.018 --> 00:44:23.349 And he'd sit there And barbecue ribs, barbecue, this barbecue, that, and I heard barbecue tuna one day and I was like, okay. 00:44:24.398 --> 00:44:28.778 Never heard of that, make it a point on the way back up we stopped. 00:44:28.838 --> 00:44:29.949 It was actually pretty good. 00:44:30.333 --> 00:44:30.813 cool. 00:44:32.534 --> 00:44:33.193 Thank you. 00:44:34.108 --> 00:44:34.679 Not a problem. 00:44:34.844 --> 00:44:35.083 All right. 00:44:35.143 --> 00:44:35.414 See ya. 00:44:44.971 --> 00:44:45.150 Okay. 00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:53.161 So another, another Truckstop cafe that I'm not sure that you've stopped at is the canned Coon Mexican restaurant in beaver, Utah. 00:44:53.371 --> 00:44:55.231 I've I have eaten there. 00:44:55.981 --> 00:44:58.650 So this is off your list of the best Truckstop and every 00:44:58.981 --> 00:44:59.760 in every, state 00:45:00.630 --> 00:45:03.391 We'll post a link to this list in the show notes. 00:45:05.101 --> 00:45:09.360 If I remember right, this is inside the flying J and I've had street tacos from there. 00:45:09.871 --> 00:45:10.501 They're good. 00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:11.340 They're decent. 00:45:11.701 --> 00:45:15.391 I would not call it the best Trex Truckstop restaurant in Utah. 00:45:16.101 --> 00:45:17.780 but they do have handmade tamales 00:45:18.001 --> 00:45:20.130 Well, who 00:45:20.181 --> 00:45:21.561 and tacos and margaritas. 00:45:23.940 --> 00:45:24.365 Really, 00:45:24.561 --> 00:45:25.521 That's what it says. 00:45:25.590 --> 00:45:35.431 maybe this isn't the one I'm thinking of, then maybe I haven't eaten I might be totally wrong about So I think me personally, this is me. 00:45:36.061 --> 00:45:43.981 The best truck stop restaurant today in Utah is trails west in green river, Utah. 00:45:46.340 --> 00:45:46.791 The 00:45:47.056 --> 00:45:49.996 Flying J jails west is next door. 00:45:50.146 --> 00:45:58.126 It's what I'd call one of the old classics, kind of very close, a close second. 00:45:59.056 --> 00:46:01.365 I would say the ranch house in Snellville, 00:46:02.746 --> 00:46:03.666 all these 00:46:03.766 --> 00:46:04.786 I mean, Molly's is 00:46:05.516 --> 00:46:05.666 it's 00:46:05.806 --> 00:46:06.255 of what you'd 00:46:07.166 --> 00:46:09.206 It's is that the, that's the one on the other side of The road 00:46:09.465 --> 00:46:11.655 is on the other side of the road quite often. 00:46:11.666 --> 00:46:12.206 If I'm 00:46:13.106 --> 00:46:15.056 Running out there that direction. 00:46:15.356 --> 00:46:18.626 I make a point to stop at the ranch house and have a burger and a salad. 00:46:18.896 --> 00:46:22.675 If I have time, I try to, pretty good. 00:46:23.786 --> 00:46:28.735 There's not a whole lot of truck stop restaurants anymore. 00:46:28.766 --> 00:46:29.606 This one in beaver. 00:46:29.606 --> 00:46:30.655 I don't, I'm not familiar with it. 00:46:30.655 --> 00:46:31.135 I'm sure. 00:46:31.255 --> 00:46:31.585 I'm sure. 00:46:31.585 --> 00:46:32.556 One of my drivers is 00:46:32.911 --> 00:46:37.530 we'll have to, um, have to try it the next time we're headed that direction. 00:46:37.795 --> 00:46:38.275 We will. 00:46:39.735 --> 00:46:43.275 Let's hop into our interview with Bruce grow. 00:46:43.425 --> 00:46:46.905 Bruce is a owner operator who pulls our trailers. 00:46:46.965 --> 00:46:47.985 He's been with us. 00:46:48.315 --> 00:46:49.005 Oh boy. 00:46:49.096 --> 00:46:50.445 Um, a few years. 00:46:50.746 --> 00:46:53.025 I'm going to say four or five years, maybe six. 00:46:53.476 --> 00:46:54.076 It's been awhile.

00:46:54.135 --> 00:46:57.246 We love having Bruce around and we'll talk to him next. 00:47:07.693 --> 00:47:17.353 You just the what stop and eat at truck stops before you felt like he was on the clock, that many you started your day till the day. 00:47:17.733 --> 00:47:18.612 Hell it ends 00:47:18.672 --> 00:47:20.172 yeah, back in the day. 00:47:20.322 --> 00:47:20.532 but 00:47:20.862 --> 00:47:21.913 back in the day. 00:47:22.992 --> 00:47:27.043 I'm trying to, I'm trying to check with some of the more experienced drivers. 00:47:27.853 --> 00:47:28.333 Great. 00:47:28.432 --> 00:47:36.643 I'm not calling you old, Bruce, your experienced w what was your favorite place to stop back when you had time to stop 00:47:37.282 --> 00:47:43.943 Uh, usually the Petro and PA because of the, the buffet with choices. 00:47:44.092 --> 00:47:46.882 iron skillet, dire and scale at the Petro. 00:47:48.052 --> 00:47:48.322 Yeah. 00:47:49.012 --> 00:47:52.163 Was there any little mom and pops you'd ever stop at? 00:47:53.793 --> 00:47:54.182 Oh yeah. 00:47:54.182 --> 00:47:59.193 There was a place down in mom and pops place in Roswell, New Mexico. 00:47:59.193 --> 00:47:59.373 And. 00:48:00.268 --> 00:48:04.527 And we usually was coming through there on a Friday afternoon. 00:48:04.527 --> 00:48:06.657 And that was catfish night. 00:48:07.588 --> 00:48:09.538 Their catfish down there was pretty good. 00:48:09.632 --> 00:48:10.233 Oh, really? 00:48:10.742 --> 00:48:11.943 Do you don't remember the name of it? 00:48:11.943 --> 00:48:12.273 Do you? 00:48:13.318 --> 00:48:16.077 and no, not for sure. 00:48:16.728 --> 00:48:19.768 It was on, it was on the north end of Roswell. 00:48:19.768 --> 00:48:22.737 The only stop that they had down there years ago. 00:48:24.552 --> 00:48:31.393 Yeah, I I've been through there, but it's been, it's been years since I've been through there too. 00:48:32.413 --> 00:48:32.532 Yeah. 00:48:32.588 --> 00:48:33.907 same, same here. 00:48:33.938 --> 00:48:35.677 It's been a lot of years. 00:48:35.677 --> 00:48:36.818 This is back in the 00:48:37.972 --> 00:48:38.393 Nice. 00:48:38.677 --> 00:48:40.117 and know, 00:48:41.972 --> 00:48:42.302 back. 00:48:42.302 --> 00:48:46.472 When, when you used to stop once or twice a day to eat, actually sit down and eat a meal, 00:48:47.057 --> 00:48:47.478 yeah. 00:48:47.478 --> 00:48:51.588 When you stop, when you used to stop and sit down and eat a meal and then. 00:48:52.873 --> 00:48:55.032 Slept five hours at night and took off again. 00:48:58.813 --> 00:49:03.362 That's that's that's that's that's the way you did it back then. 00:49:03.373 --> 00:49:06.612 So you had time to stop and eat and still get where you needed to be. 00:49:06.813 --> 00:49:16.563 That would be an interesting study to see if we were, if we were healthier than cause We were actually taking time to you didn't you. 00:49:16.563 --> 00:49:17.432 Weren't always rushed. 00:49:17.432 --> 00:49:17.762 right? 00:49:17.762 --> 00:49:19.503 Like What was it? 00:49:19.503 --> 00:49:20.163 healthier? 00:49:21.628 --> 00:49:23.038 Not have to stop. 00:49:23.068 --> 00:49:29.157 for 10 hours a night and be able to take your time, or is it healthier the way it is today? 00:49:30.588 --> 00:49:30.887 I don't know. 00:49:30.887 --> 00:49:42.318 The doctor said it must be healthier the way I'm doing it today because he said, he says, he says over the last 15 years, I've lost about 20 pounds, 25 pounds. 00:49:42.318 --> 00:49:44.148 Since I first started going and saying, 00:49:44.608 --> 00:49:47.112 oh, no Well, good for you. 00:49:47.862 --> 00:49:51.253 See, you just, you just blew my thesis out of the water right there, Bruce. 00:49:51.717 --> 00:49:52.077 Yeah. 00:49:52.617 --> 00:49:53.068 Yeah. 00:49:53.157 --> 00:50:02.847 Well, the problem is, is when you, when you sit down and eat, you know, two square meals a day, you know, you just didn't settle for the salad bar. 00:50:02.847 --> 00:50:11.307 You know, you had something else, I guess back then, if it was settling for the salad bar, then I guess we probably wouldn't have had the 25 pounds to lose. 00:50:11.307 --> 00:50:11.728 Right. 00:50:12.072 --> 00:50:12.733 That's true. 00:50:15.402 --> 00:50:19.963 You're the, you're the second one I've talked to that's uh, mentioned the iron skillet. 00:50:19.963 --> 00:50:27.972 I I've, I mean, Back when, that was kind of a regular stop for me, I guess. 00:50:28.063 --> 00:50:29.472 And it was because of the salad bar. 00:50:29.472 --> 00:50:30.313 I'm a salad bar. 00:50:30.492 --> 00:50:30.853 guy. 00:50:32.103 --> 00:50:33.432 I like salad bars. 00:50:33.643 --> 00:50:34.213 Um, 00:50:34.478 --> 00:50:46.688 Well, there was, there was another thing to even be even going on back then, you know, most of the Petros and th you know, especially the Petros had, you know, good sized parking lot. 00:50:46.688 --> 00:50:49.657 So when you got there, you always felt like you could find you a place to. 00:50:50.262 --> 00:50:51.492 Yeah, that's true. 00:50:51.822 --> 00:50:52.302 You bet. 00:50:52.498 --> 00:50:52.918 Yeah. 00:50:53.248 --> 00:51:02.518 I remember watching, uh, the 50th anniversary of the Superbowl in the Petro, outside their Atlanta, Georgia. 00:51:04.378 --> 00:51:07.827 Uh, the one on the west side of town or south of town? 00:51:08.887 --> 00:51:12.277 uh, the one kind of on a, I don't know. 00:51:14.608 --> 00:51:14.998 Well, 00:51:15.217 --> 00:51:17.527 Well, we're up to 56 last year. 00:51:17.527 --> 00:51:18.728 That's six years ago. 00:51:19.603 --> 00:51:19.753 Yeah, 00:51:20.277 --> 00:51:21.538 there's a Petro. 00:51:21.748 --> 00:51:26.878 I think there's a Petro just on the west side of Atlanta, like on the west end. 00:51:26.967 --> 00:51:29.068 um, on the loop, right? 00:51:29.097 --> 00:51:30.777 on the 2, 2 85 loop. 00:51:30.777 --> 00:51:31.438 I think it is. 00:51:32.152 --> 00:51:32.563 That's fine. 00:51:33.163 --> 00:51:33.643 Okay.

00:51:33.672 --> 00:51:34.032 Yeah. 00:51:34.063 --> 00:51:35.833 There's another one south of town. 00:51:36.643 --> 00:51:36.943 I guess. 00:51:36.943 --> 00:51:37.902 It's Macon. 00:51:37.932 --> 00:51:39.463 It's quite a way south of Atlanta. 00:51:40.663 --> 00:51:41.233 it's making 00:51:41.382 --> 00:51:45.822 I've been been to that one too, but that one's not near as big as one. 00:51:51.463 --> 00:51:51.972 man. 00:51:53.342 --> 00:51:56.612 And then you go from Atlanta, Georgia to the next year. 00:51:56.612 --> 00:51:56.882 Yup. 00:51:56.943 --> 00:52:03.963 They're watching it in, in North Dakota when it's minus five degrees for the high, during the day. 00:52:05.007 --> 00:52:05.427 boy. 00:52:08.757 --> 00:52:17.847 then a couple of years later, your watch, well, it was 2019 when he was actually a lot of, to watch truck stops, you know, in a truck stop. 00:52:18.268 --> 00:52:26.038 So that's when 49ers and the Kansas city chiefs played in, made that up to PA and trout. 00:52:26.128 --> 00:52:27.237 They only watch that one up. 00:52:28.108 --> 00:52:31.527 COVID was perfect for all the Truckstops get rid of their tracker lounges. 00:52:31.527 --> 00:52:31.858 Right. 00:52:34.737 --> 00:52:38.637 some of them have, some of them are just using them as storage. 00:52:38.637 --> 00:52:44.217 And if you can lean against the box, you'll, you know, stuff, they got slack there. 00:52:44.217 --> 00:52:45.927 They'll still let you watch the TV. 00:52:50.128 --> 00:52:51.148 All right, Bruce. 00:52:51.447 --> 00:52:53.338 Well, I appreciate you taking. 00:52:54.108 --> 00:52:54.858 anytime. 00:52:54.983 --> 00:52:55.762 All right, buddy. 00:52:55.762 --> 00:52:56.572 Be careful. 00:52:56.722 --> 00:52:57.233 Okay. 00:52:57.262 --> 00:52:57.802 Thanks. 00:53:06.853 --> 00:53:07.182 Okay. 00:53:07.543 --> 00:53:13.213 Here's one that I wanted to talk to you about before I asked you about the one Val is going to talk about. 00:53:13.932 --> 00:53:17.172 This is the Sonic at Gore's travel Plaza and it looks like. 00:53:18.302 --> 00:53:19.503 Salian Oklahoma. 00:53:20.253 --> 00:53:24.932 S E I L I N Oklahoma. 00:53:24.963 --> 00:53:27.063 Yes it does. 00:53:27.092 --> 00:53:27.333 Okay. 00:53:27.333 --> 00:53:39.932 So you all know that Sonic doesn't offer that homemade food, but this place actually has a fast food joint with truck accessible car hops, and you can pull your semis in to. 00:53:41.103 --> 00:53:43.623 Order your at this place? 00:53:44.282 --> 00:53:50.672 Um, I was, when I was researching for this episode, we thought that 00:53:50.838 --> 00:53:51.378 that's pretty 00:53:51.603 --> 00:53:53.193 that is an idea. 00:53:53.947 --> 00:53:56.807 So you found another list of the top 12, 00:53:57.034 --> 00:53:57.273 right? 00:53:58.007 --> 00:54:01.577 And the very first one on the list is the thunder road. 00:54:01.967 --> 00:54:04.938 Max's thunder road, restaurant grand island, which we've already talked 00:54:05.012 --> 00:54:05.432 Right. 00:54:05.867 --> 00:54:07.097 But number two 00:54:07.202 --> 00:54:09.722 is the outpost cafe in Oak Hills, California, 00:54:10.007 --> 00:54:12.887 is one that's one that Val talks about 00:54:13.322 --> 00:54:18.302 Does he talk about, does he talk about hot beer, lousy food and bad service? 00:54:19.333 --> 00:54:22.233 No, he does not talk any of those things. 00:54:22.262 --> 00:54:26.882 Well, evidently the reason why people like it is because they have this great sense of humor. 00:54:31.217 --> 00:54:36.407 So the online reviews of the cafe proved the negativity is all in fun. 00:54:36.677 --> 00:54:50.538 They've got great cheeseburgers and steaks and their staff is really friendly, but they're at that pilot, um, travel center on I 15, they have a laundromat, a laundromat, a game room, 11 showers in the chapel. 00:54:50.742 --> 00:54:52.813 There's a lot of things right there at that exit. 00:54:53.353 --> 00:54:55.378 It's one of Val's favorite haunts. 00:54:56.382 --> 00:55:00.282 I don't think I've ever eaten there, but the next time I go to LA, I got to stop. 00:55:00.733 --> 00:55:16.938 So here's our interview with Val Stokes So in the past you told me like the one that's still open today. 00:55:16.938 --> 00:55:19.427 That's your favorite is the outpost. 00:55:19.902 --> 00:55:20.293 Oh yeah. 00:55:20.302 --> 00:55:22.213 The outpost is a fun place to stop. 00:55:23.027 --> 00:55:24.518 I don't know if I've ever eaten there. 00:55:24.557 --> 00:55:26.657 It's a Hisperia 00:55:26.853 --> 00:55:29.789 yeah, Hold on a little sense of J or a pilot there. 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:31.110 I think it's a pilot up there. 00:55:31.110 --> 00:55:31.800 on top of the hill. 00:55:32.472 --> 00:55:34.152 3 95 merges on 00:55:34.402 --> 00:55:38.032 Is that restaurants out in the, out, in the parking lot, right? 00:55:38.452 --> 00:55:38.722 Like 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:40.759 here. 00:55:40.759 --> 00:55:44.255 it's over, closer to each, between the off ramp. 00:55:44.255 --> 00:55:44.485 and 00:55:45.552 --> 00:55:47.112 So what do you eat when you go there? 00:55:47.652 --> 00:55:49.601 What'd you eat the last time you were at the app post 00:55:50.065 --> 00:55:51.016 probably a salad. 00:55:51.025 --> 00:55:53.545 The hamburger, not breakfast. 00:55:56.215 --> 00:55:58.675 Uh, when was the first time you ever ate at the outpost? 00:55:59.228 --> 00:56:01.208 probably 40 years ago. 00:56:03.878 --> 00:56:04.539 I didn't know. 00:56:04.539 --> 00:56:05.108 It was Still? 00:56:05.108 --> 00:56:12.039 there either until, you know, a few years ago, when I took a load down that way I knew I was going to have to stop and rest. 00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.795 There So I was getting off the freeway. 00:56:14.795 --> 00:56:16.746 I looked over there who saw it. 00:56:16.746 --> 00:56:18.429 So I got parked. 00:56:18.489 --> 00:56:19.309 Did my 10. 00:56:19.806 --> 00:56:23.777 Well, I walked over there and had breakfast. 00:56:24.425

--> 00:56:25.146 It's pretty sweet 00:56:25.606 --> 00:56:36.465 So is there any place back in the day when you were a truck and way back when, where you, you made sure you stopped when you were going somewhere? 00:56:40.077 --> 00:56:41.516 it's all city now. 00:56:41.786 --> 00:56:52.856 So on the south side of Los Vegas, but it was it wasn't before, like once you got by the airport, you're in the desert and there was an exit there for per ramp. 00:56:53.367 --> 00:57:02.637 There was a union 76 Truckstop there, and they had a good restaurant I'd usually stop there and get some fuel and get a bite to eat. 00:57:02.637 --> 00:57:05.547 Then make my way on down, shake it down. 00:57:07.617 --> 00:57:09.806 They had good restaurants and all their trucks. 00:57:09.806 --> 00:57:13.077 dogs Where the, where the pilot is. 00:57:13.077 --> 00:57:23.007 And when a McKay, he used to be a union, 76 Truckstop too, also many, you know, way, way back then they had a restaurant in there. 00:57:23.277 --> 00:57:24.177 It was decent. 00:57:24.949 --> 00:57:25.489 I don't think 00:57:25.518 --> 00:57:30.588 And they had one at grand island that I stopped at sometimes. 00:57:32.509 --> 00:57:35.869 but I used WhatsApp. 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.759 Well, there was a union 76 truck stop there. 00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.159 Oh, it's west to west of grand island. 00:57:43.818 --> 00:57:44.329 Yeah. 00:57:44.358 --> 00:57:45.409 still there wood river. 00:57:45.498 --> 00:57:45.858 Yeah. 00:57:48.668 --> 00:57:50.829 And I'd usually, if I. 00:57:52.293 --> 00:58:07.594 I happened to coincide with a mealtime ID there at north Platte to, I seek that was a Husky truck stops there and they had a truck wash there too, a little independent truck wash just on the backside of the lot that was not bad. 00:58:08.224 --> 00:58:09.873 And There was almost never a line there. 00:58:09.873 --> 00:58:12.784 So sometimes I'd stop there and get a Washington 00:58:17.889 --> 00:58:18.818 back in the day. 00:58:18.829 --> 00:58:25.333 But all, But all the, there were a lot of independent truck stops in those days. 00:58:27.378 --> 00:58:35.809 And all of them had, a good restaurant I thought, you know, maybe I just didn't know what good food was back then, too. 00:58:37.188 --> 00:58:40.489 it seemed like, you know, they'd have a variety of stuff on the menu. 00:58:41.179 --> 00:58:53.179 If you stop with any of these places now, it's, you know, whatever Wendy serves or you know, Carl's Jr or subway, you know, and I guess. 00:58:53.179 --> 00:58:54.048 That's okay. 00:58:54.048 --> 00:59:02.688 But A little variety It'd be, I mean, places that always had a special what's a special tonight. 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.099 You could always get a good dinner 00:59:05.148 --> 00:59:05.539 Yeah. 00:59:07.213 --> 00:59:18.184 I have no idea what the name of it was, but there was a pretty good place in Madison, Wisconsin, too, that I always used to go to, go on a regular basis for quite a little while. 00:59:19.264 --> 00:59:23.134 I can't remember the name of the place but there was a decent one there. 00:59:24.469 --> 00:59:28.068 I don't remember there ever being a Truckstop in Madison itself. 00:59:29.088 --> 00:59:31.699 There's one on either side of town that 00:59:33.994 --> 00:59:35.434 It's been a long, long time. 00:59:36.648 --> 00:59:39.259 they were just fuel stops too, you know? 00:59:40.143 --> 00:59:40.324 Yeah. 00:59:40.333 --> 00:59:49.143 There was places One of the like bingo maybe a few of The guys will remember the bingo, feel stops. 00:59:49.143 --> 00:59:51.784 I don't want to say Truckstop cause they're just cheap. 00:59:52.353 --> 00:59:53.943 Gurindji achieved. 00:59:53.943 --> 00:59:55.173 Feel, feel stopped. 00:59:59.302 --> 01:00:01.103 a little independent mom and pop. 01:00:01.103 --> 01:00:05.422 I stopped at one in Indiana on it was on a two lane road. 01:00:05.422 --> 01:00:09.713 I had a, you remember back in the day when they used to have the truck stop directories. 01:00:11.588 --> 01:00:11.978 Right. 01:00:12.108 --> 01:00:20.407 And you could, you could look up all the different truck stops, no matter what road it was on in the directory, it was split up by state. 01:00:20.887 --> 01:00:26.617 So that was like, you know, when I started driving, we didn't really have cell phones. 01:00:26.617 --> 01:00:27.128 Yeah. 01:00:27.157 --> 01:00:27.577 Yeah. 01:00:27.757 --> 01:00:32.018 And I was, everything was new territory to me when I first started driving. 01:00:32.617 --> 01:00:34.597 So I wore out that little truck stop dress. 01:00:35.588 --> 01:00:47.288 And it would tell you how many parking spaces they had and if they had a restaurant and if they're open 24 hours and showers and all that stuff, you so I stopped in this little, I can't remember the town. 01:00:47.887 --> 01:00:49.027 It was tiny. 01:00:49.737 --> 01:00:51.038 It was the last truck stop. 01:00:51.068 --> 01:00:53.318 I had like 20 miles to go to wherever I was delivering. 01:00:54.458 --> 01:00:55.057 And I bought. 01:00:56.393 --> 01:00:59.362 And I walk in and I'm like, I need a shower. 01:00:59.483 --> 01:01:01.432 She says, you're going to take a shower here. 01:01:04.012 --> 01:01:06.472 And I'm like, yeah, I need a shower, bad. 01:01:06.822 --> 01:01:08.003 I was pulling flatbed. 01:01:08.032 --> 01:01:12.833 You know, I said all I really needs a hose hose and some soap. 01:01:12.833 --> 01:01:15.023 And she says, that's pretty much what you're getting. 01:01:16.313 --> 01:01:17.483 She wasn't far off. 01:01:17.483 --> 01:01:17.992 It was. 01:01:18.172 --> 01:01:18.922 Hmm, boy. 01:01:20.780 --> 01:01:32.420 So that's one thing I'll say is probably better now than back then, although you might have to wait, your turn, but these truck stops now, but they have good shots. 01:01:34.545 --> 01:01:36.346 And they take Pretty good care of them. 01:01:36.556 --> 01:01:36.945 the ones. 01:01:36.945 --> 01:01:42.076 I've been

in in the back then, You know, all these independent truck stops. 01:01:42.076 --> 01:01:44.896 That might be pretty nice, but it might be. 01:01:44.985 --> 01:01:49.456 like what you described bad news, you know, 01:01:51.030 --> 01:01:52.650 Um, good times. 01:01:52.891 --> 01:01:54.331 It was kind of fun back in the day. 01:01:54.331 --> 01:01:56.460 Not really knowing what you're going to get, you know? 01:02:00.615 --> 01:02:12.346 Yeah the crossroads here in Treemont and out there, There was a well, I worked out there when there was a truck stop for off and on for some years, and then you got a good cafe there. 01:02:13.635 --> 01:02:14.235 You know, it wasn't. 01:02:14.235 --> 01:02:14.686 a chain. 01:02:14.686 --> 01:02:19.275 It was Just a nice cafe, a decent meals there. 01:02:20.391 --> 01:02:24.951 so you might know this, um, Angie's here in Logan. 01:02:25.731 --> 01:02:31.911 Was that, uh, back in the day, a trucker hang out at all truck drivers? 01:02:32.030 --> 01:02:32.420 No, 01:02:32.565 --> 01:02:33.856 No, I don't think so. 01:02:34.846 --> 01:02:39.780 I see Well, I think if you went back in time for enough that Might've been a samples. 01:02:44.820 --> 01:02:46.831 That I don't even know that night. 01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:47.731 Well, I mean, I know that 01:02:47.976 --> 01:02:51.126 uh, there were a few of them around way back. 01:02:51.456 --> 01:02:52.416 It was like a chain. 01:02:52.806 --> 01:02:55.295 It was kind of like a Danny's, you know, kind of like a diner 01:02:55.590 --> 01:02:56.070 Okay. 01:02:56.670 --> 01:02:57.090 All right. 01:02:59.731 --> 01:03:00.030 Hmm. 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:01.471 All right. 01:03:02.251 --> 01:03:03.001 So, I don't know. 01:03:03.001 --> 01:03:05.521 My memory is not good enough to help you out very much. 01:03:05.521 --> 01:03:10.681 but you know, another thing I don't, it wasn't this. 01:03:11.655 --> 01:03:16.485 Thanksgiving, But a year, a year and a half ago on Thanksgiving, I was coming home from LA. 01:03:16.965 --> 01:03:22.666 I delivered down there on Thanksgiving morning, and Jimmy was able to get a load of bananas, like pick up. 01:03:22.666 --> 01:03:24.045 that morning and head home. 01:03:24.885 --> 01:03:50.746 So all the way up the road I was thinking about this, when I, when I was young, when w when I was driving, just, you know, back into the Midwest, all those places, out at a restaurant And they'd always give you a free dinner on Thanksgiving And that whole day driving home, I drove all the way up to like, I dunno where I stopped. 01:03:52.516 --> 01:03:53.295 down around. 01:03:57.956 --> 01:04:00.735 I probably made it blue. 01:04:00.755 --> 01:04:01.856 I didn't make it to defy. 01:04:01.856 --> 01:04:13.905 I can't remember somewhere down there, I couldn't join anything even open, you know, let alone a decent That was, it was just, it's just a lot different now. 01:04:14.536 --> 01:04:18.226 I think They just expect you to deliver the goods and live on follow-up and sugar. 01:04:19.275 --> 01:04:19.815 nowadays. 01:04:22.036 --> 01:04:23.146 Well, it's all in places. 01:04:26.081 --> 01:04:28.005 Nobody has time to stop and eat anymore. 01:04:28.675 --> 01:04:30.206 Well, there's that too. 01:04:30.565 --> 01:04:31.465 We had a lot. 01:04:31.465 --> 01:04:36.565 It seems like we had all kinds of time to stop and have a decent meal. 01:04:37.916 --> 01:04:37.976 know. 01:04:38.956 --> 01:04:40.275 And mosey on down the road. 01:04:40.485 --> 01:04:42.376 We were never racing the clock. 01:04:42.376 --> 01:04:44.175 It didn't seem like so, 01:04:45.780 --> 01:04:48.871 You're going fast because you want it to not cause you had to. 01:04:51.210 --> 01:04:51.420 Hmm. 01:04:52.501 --> 01:04:53.070 All right. 01:04:53.896 --> 01:04:58.365 I guess that's why most of these guys nowadays carry a lot of their food with them. 01:04:59.291 --> 01:05:00.130 refrigerators. 01:05:00.130 --> 01:05:00.880 Microwaves. 01:05:03.311 --> 01:05:03.701 Yup. 01:05:05.405 --> 01:05:06.186 Alright. 01:05:06.490 --> 01:05:06.791 good. 01:05:06.791 --> 01:05:07.090 Thanks. 01:05:08.221 --> 01:05:09.001 My pleasure. 01:05:09.271 --> 01:05:09.840 Talk to you later. 01:05:19.411 --> 01:05:20.731 great interview with Val. 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:27.420 I love having him on the podcast whenever he has a chance to join me, or I have a reason to call him maybe as what I should say. 01:05:29.101 --> 01:05:31.530 I'm a little under prepared for this episode. 01:05:31.530 --> 01:05:33.931 So I don't really have a question from the road. 01:05:34.635 --> 01:05:36.226 But I've got a question for you. 01:05:36.271 --> 01:05:36.900 Okay. 01:05:37.291 --> 01:05:37.501 What's 01:05:37.726 --> 01:05:40.846 So you've been in, you've been in the industry for awhile. 01:05:41.056 --> 01:05:44.746 You started off pretty young driving truck. 01:05:45.585 --> 01:05:59.896 Um, and I remember we were dating, getting some food from a truck stop, I wanted to ask you, um, what are your favorite trucks? 01:05:59.900 --> 01:06:00.231 stops. 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:04.981 So my, my favorite truck stop of all time. 01:06:05.581 --> 01:06:06.751 I've really got two of them. 01:06:06.931 --> 01:06:13.800 They happen to be across the road from each other, and I grew up three miles from on highway 92, just west of wa. 01:06:14.715 --> 01:06:15.960 There were two truck stops. 01:06:16.695 --> 01:06:18.076 One was called hackles. 01:06:18.496 --> 01:06:19.726 The other one was the white way. 01:06:19.726 --> 01:06:25.650 Cafe hackles closed, man. 01:06:27.795 --> 01:06:28.786 long have we been married? 01:06:29.056 --> 01:06:29.505 25. 01:06:31.155 --> 01:06:31.525 Yeah. 01:06:31.545 --> 01:06:33.556 I least something like 01:06:33.771 --> 01:06:36.981 hackles would have closed 25, 26 years ago. 01:06:37.070 --> 01:06:38.721 They had amazing fried chicken. 01:06:39.141 --> 01:06:42.170 We found out later that it was amazing because it was made with lard.

01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:45.920 Um, they didn't have a phone. 01:06:47.295 --> 01:06:49.065 Truckstop itself did not have a phone. 01:06:49.096 --> 01:06:51.376 There was a payphone inside the restaurant. 01:06:52.425 --> 01:06:56.715 And every once in a while that payphone had ring and a waitress would go answer it and she'd take an order. 01:06:56.865 --> 01:07:02.356 Cause everybody knew everybody, all the locals knew the phone number for hackles was the payphone. 01:07:02.746 --> 01:07:09.766 Right And that's how you placed it to go order, which when you said we went there to get food one time, that's how we placed the order. 01:07:09.795 --> 01:07:10.096 right. 01:07:11.356 --> 01:07:18.045 Was this the place that, uh, had the dressing in the three little caddy of three 01:07:18.181 --> 01:07:19.110 had a dressing 01:07:19.155 --> 01:07:19.695 boat, 01:07:20.201 --> 01:07:21.751 that they'd bring to your table. 01:07:22.260 --> 01:07:26.521 And it was always a thousand island, uh, French. 01:07:27.090 --> 01:07:30.871 We were Dorothy Lynch and Italian. 01:07:31.335 --> 01:07:31.726 Okay. 01:07:31.726 --> 01:07:32.655 So no ranch. 01:07:32.791 --> 01:07:34.561 That's the Italian dressing. 01:07:34.666 --> 01:07:36.376 Oh, that I've got the recipe for upstairs. 01:07:36.510 --> 01:07:37.561 they had one that was. 01:07:38.536 --> 01:07:40.606 One, that was for the one that had foreign. 01:07:40.606 --> 01:07:43.996 It had a green goddess in it but no ranch. 01:07:44.025 --> 01:07:45.496 You had to ask for ranch. 01:07:46.666 --> 01:07:48.795 So I grew up on that Italian dressing. 01:07:48.826 --> 01:07:51.226 You've made it a timer to Valen. 01:07:51.235 --> 01:07:54.346 Julie have had it every, every time you make it, everybody loves it. 01:07:54.346 --> 01:07:55.545 It's because it's full of sugar. 01:07:55.811 --> 01:07:55.990 it. 01:07:55.990 --> 01:07:58.630 has vinegar oil, sugar. 01:07:59.081 --> 01:07:59.411 Yeah, 01:07:59.735 --> 01:08:00.396 oregano. 01:08:00.456 --> 01:08:02.195 Um it's really, really good. 01:08:02.195 --> 01:08:09.755 The other one white way on the, on the north side of the road ended up being Bauer's white way cafe, and then it became Reza watches. 01:08:10.115 --> 01:08:16.895 It's closed now to Marianne who actually got the, the recipe for the fried chicken 01:08:17.190 --> 01:08:18.631 and dress and the dressing, 01:08:20.280 --> 01:08:25.201 ended up running the restaurant to the, across the street to the north after hackles closed 01:08:25.921 --> 01:08:26.911 Oh, they have the best pie. 01:08:27.360 --> 01:08:31.801 great pie merengue, the coconut cream that had a Marangu. 01:08:31.801 --> 01:08:35.100 That was no joke was four inches tall. 01:08:35.161 --> 01:08:36.180 Yeah, great. 01:08:36.451 --> 01:08:37.320 It was amazing. 01:08:37.411 --> 01:08:38.371 It was amazing 01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:40.051 Seminoles, the kids love the cinnamon. 01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:42.421 roll chocolate milk and a boot. 01:08:45.496 --> 01:08:46.636 those are long closed. 01:08:46.711 --> 01:08:47.011 Right? 01:08:47.011 --> 01:08:52.740 My favorite, my favorite thing to get at rosaceas was the ham steak and dumplings. 01:08:53.655 --> 01:08:56.055 I never, I don't think I ever once got the hams 01:08:56.220 --> 01:08:57.751 oh, it was so good. 01:08:57.765 --> 01:09:00.180 I'd get a chef salad and I'd get Italian and ranch. 01:09:01.230 --> 01:09:04.020 Amazing, had always had great food 01:09:05.115 --> 01:09:05.805 Today. 01:09:06.525 --> 01:09:09.256 I gravitate towards a lot of the guys in this episode. 01:09:09.256 --> 01:09:11.865 Talk about, uh, the Petro. 01:09:11.865 --> 01:09:12.645 I skill it. 01:09:12.886 --> 01:09:13.636 The salad bar. 01:09:14.025 --> 01:09:14.536 Oh yeah. 01:09:15.163 --> 01:09:18.073 Today I go for a good salad bar, wherever I can find them. 01:09:18.104 --> 01:09:21.583 There's not very many round or a good salad. 01:09:22.154 --> 01:09:26.083 Most of the Sapp brothers restaurants have good salads. 01:09:26.623 --> 01:09:30.104 The one in salt lake city is the exception to that. 01:09:30.493 --> 01:09:38.059 Believe it or not, Elm Creek Nebraska sat brothers Fremont, Nebraska has a no-no Fremont. 01:09:38.804 --> 01:09:39.884 Columbus has restaurant. 01:09:40.873 --> 01:09:43.573 Uh, Omaha has a restaurant Harris. 01:09:43.753 --> 01:09:46.064 Uh, Harrisonville Missouri has restaurant. 01:09:46.934 --> 01:09:49.484 There's actually a sat brothers in Pennsylvania that has a restaurant. 01:09:50.863 --> 01:09:53.594 And then one you mentioned kind of in passing. 01:09:53.863 --> 01:09:55.694 I don't know if it's gonna, if it's on here. 01:09:55.753 --> 01:10:00.644 Um, our place at Morris, Illinois, amazing restaurant. 01:10:01.033 --> 01:10:02.654 That's just west Chicago. 01:10:02.684 --> 01:10:03.793 Great big parking lot. 01:10:03.793 --> 01:10:05.293 You can usually find a place to park there. 01:10:05.293 --> 01:10:08.444 If you ever through there, I'd highly recommend our place. 01:10:08.860 --> 01:10:11.051 So thanks for joining us for another episode. 01:10:11.081 --> 01:10:15.070 I'll try and get a, another episode out soon. 01:10:15.211 --> 01:10:16.201 Give him some ideas. 01:10:16.270 --> 01:10:17.201 I need ideas. 01:10:18.220 --> 01:10:20.118 Like, I don't know what to talk about. 01:10:20.506 --> 01:10:23.027 What should we talk about how the robots are coming? 01:10:23.296 --> 01:10:24.466 No birds. 01:10:24.466 --> 01:10:24.976 Aren't real. 01:10:26.963 --> 01:10:29.543 How do we get a younger generation interested in trucking? 01:10:31.253 --> 01:10:31.524 that? 01:10:31.583 --> 01:10:32.543 That would be pretty. 01:10:33.684 --> 01:10:34.373 You want to have to bring. 01:10:34.434 --> 01:10:34.793 some 01:10:36.069 --> 01:10:39.668 People that are smarter than I am to talk about. 01:10:39.984 --> 01:10:41.588 I think it needs to be people that are younger too. 01:10:41.918 --> 01:10:42.729 Oh, for sure.

01:10:43.524 --> 01:10:51.684 I don't, I don't know what it interests my son and daughter, like what would interest you in doing this? 01:10:53.029 --> 01:10:59.118 The, uh, opportunities for growth, personal professional, right. 01:10:59.899 --> 01:11:00.559 Um, 01:11:00.578 --> 01:11:10.298 It's so hard could, because for so long people became truck drivers because they either like me grew up watching the truck. 01:11:10.298 --> 01:11:11.439 Drivers were cool. 01:11:12.009 --> 01:11:13.958 They were cool in the seventies. 01:11:14.059 --> 01:11:15.009 They were for sure 01:11:15.069 --> 01:11:18.868 it was a cool profession or it was your only option. 01:11:21.502 --> 01:11:22.853 is still a cool profession. 01:11:23.483 --> 01:11:23.903 Okay. 01:11:23.932 --> 01:11:24.893 Let me, let me 01:11:25.438 --> 01:11:27.627 so how we modernize it to make it cool? 01:11:27.627 --> 01:11:27.917 Again, 01:11:28.823 --> 01:11:35.233 it is a message from the industry that I think needs to, come from the top, right? 01:11:35.712 --> 01:11:37.363 Uh, I'm I'm an agriculture. 01:11:38.023 --> 01:11:39.703 We talk about feeding the world. 01:11:40.182 --> 01:11:43.693 That's our job, and I do it by teaching people how to be treated. 01:11:44.363 --> 01:12:02.261 Who can teach the younger generation about not just, production agriculture and growing the crops and, you know, fixing a tractor here and there it is about how can you get into nutrition and dietetics or, uh, food science or, Technology and robotics. 01:12:02.261 --> 01:12:07.421 And how does all that integrate to help feed the people on our planet? 01:12:08.740 --> 01:12:18.161 I think the transportation industry needs to embrace that also, and it's not just moving product from one place to another. 01:12:18.911 --> 01:12:23.860 It is a key cog in our survival. 01:12:25.030 --> 01:12:32.753 As the society, to have the products, the goods and services that we are used to having, right. 01:12:32.974 --> 01:12:35.134 All, all industries. 01:12:35.493 --> 01:12:41.253 I know, like, especially yours ag education has faced all industries. 01:12:41.884 --> 01:12:50.850 There's resistance to change for sure It in ag education, it seemed, stronger than that. 01:12:51.011 --> 01:13:08.914 And it's stronger in trans in trucking too And I don't know for sure how we over come that right Other than just, just doing it, just, you know, of the things we've tried on the, the, the USU truck, a lot of the drag. 01:13:09.994 --> 01:13:10.835 Some of the drivers. 01:13:10.925 --> 01:13:11.704 I shouldn't say a lot. 01:13:11.975 --> 01:13:15.425 Some of the drivers refer to that as my truck that's Mark's truck. 01:13:15.604 --> 01:13:22.654 right Well, it got all the radar and lane keep assist right out of the gate. 01:13:23.824 --> 01:13:24.244 Um, 01:13:24.734 --> 01:13:33.112 now the latest thing with that truck is the electronic mirrors I have already heard from a few drivers. 01:13:34.266 --> 01:13:35.317 That they don't like him. 01:13:35.646 --> 01:13:36.067 Sure. 01:13:36.516 --> 01:13:36.936 Okay. 01:13:37.212 --> 01:13:43.087 And I can understand, however, this is the direction we're heading, 01:13:43.237 --> 01:13:43.627 right? 01:13:43.987 --> 01:13:47.346 You are, um, there's a theory out there. 01:13:49.537 --> 01:13:51.546 like conspiracy theory, 01:13:51.546 --> 01:13:51.877 No. 01:13:52.447 --> 01:13:53.106 Um, 01:13:53.317 --> 01:13:53.796 Aren't real. 01:13:54.817 --> 01:13:56.827 do you need to look this up diffusion of innovation? 01:13:57.355 --> 01:13:58.586 You were an early adopter. 01:13:58.917 --> 01:14:00.896 So when there are new. 01:14:01.317 --> 01:14:05.381 Innovations that come out, you were the first one to do them. 01:14:06.100 --> 01:14:06.551 Okay. 01:14:06.581 --> 01:14:11.680 And then there are those people that come next and then you've got folks that are, they call them the laggards. 01:14:11.711 --> 01:14:22.511 They're the last people to adopt the new innovation, but there's a whole theory about diffusion of innovation and how that innovation through society. 01:14:22.890 --> 01:14:23.100 Hmm. 01:14:24.440 --> 01:14:28.110 don't, but I, I appreciate the old stuff so much. 01:14:29.365 --> 01:14:29.845 Sure. 01:14:29.966 --> 01:14:31.676 And there's, I think there's something to that too. 01:14:31.975 --> 01:14:32.275 Right? 01:14:34.105 --> 01:14:44.336 wish we still had great truck stop restaurants that were open 24 hours that I wish we still had flexibility. 01:14:45.565 --> 01:14:47.235 I sometimes feel like. 01:14:48.036 --> 01:14:51.725 we're resistant to change because we're afraid. 01:14:51.725 --> 01:14:52.086 Right. 01:14:52.775 --> 01:15:02.376 And sometimes I feel like I get frowned upon a bit because I embrace it so quickly, but I just see it as it's common. 01:15:03.786 --> 01:15:04.145 Right. 01:15:04.176 --> 01:15:10.895 I mean, no matter what I do this stuff's coming and I better figure out how to make money doing it. 01:15:10.926 --> 01:15:11.136 it 01:15:11.780 --> 01:15:13.070 Because somebody's going to 01:15:13.956 --> 01:15:14.525 if you're not. 01:15:14.570 --> 01:15:17.211 first you're last, right. 01:15:18.725 --> 01:15:21.845 It was that from a lightening McQueen. 01:15:23.076 --> 01:15:23.195 It 01:15:23.331 --> 01:15:23.541 be. 01:15:23.900 --> 01:15:26.060 It could be from Talladega nights for all. 01:15:26.060 --> 01:15:27.350 I know Ricky, Bobby, 01:15:30.065 --> 01:15:38.859 well, helping those folks that are, I'm not going to say resistant, but the question, need for change, it's helping them understand the needs. 01:15:39.346 --> 01:15:45.466 If you would have given me more prep time, I could have come at you with all kinds of, um, smart stuff to say, but. 01:15:46.430 --> 01:15:48.921 Maybe we'll talk about future trucking in the next step. 01:15:48.921 --> 01:15:56.019 So maybe that'll be the next episode Thanks for tuning in to episode 23 of driver to driver is Stokes trucking podcast. 01:15:56.259 --> 01:16:00.426 if you have any comments or questions, please email me. 01:16:00.456 --> 01:16:01.055 Mark. 01:16:01.086 --> 01:16:03.966 mirk@stokestrucking.com. 01:16:04.452 --> 01:16:05.862 I'd love show ideas. 01:16:05.862 --> 01:16:09.152 I think we might do the next one future trucking. 01:16:10.157 --> 01:16:11.237 It sounds like a good plan. 01:16:11.431 --> 01:16:11.912 Exciting. 01:16:11.912 --> 01:16:13.051 Sorry about my pets. 01:16:13.322 --> 01:16:14.252 We'll talk to you soon. 01:16:22.742 --> 01:16:24.962 Thank you for listening to driver to driver. 01:16:25.231 --> 01:16:27.242 Uh, Stokes trucking podcast. 01:16:27.395 --> 01:16:32.975 For more information on Stokes trucking, please visit our website Stokes trucking.com. 01:16:33.220 --> 01:16:38.770 You can also learn more about us on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram at Stokes trucking. 01:16:39.087 --> 01:16:42.627 The intro and outro music is I can't keep still. 01:16:42.737 --> 01:16:52.252 The bumper music between segments is fetch me another one, Both performed by the caffeine creek band Driver to driver is a frankfurter studios production