บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Kylie Down Under, Difficult Decisions and Double Paris

00:04:18.319 So she was saying, Oh, he's so cute. 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.319 Look at his dimples, look at this, blah blah blah. 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.120 And I was like, Yeah, I'm about to get on a plane and travel for 27 hours. 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:29.439 And I said, I would literally give you my house if you did that journey for me. 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.160 And she had kids, and she was like, No. 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:38.959 Oh, I know so, yeah, the flight, the flights were bad on the way back. 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:40.800 It wasn't so bad. 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.800 Um, it wasn't so bad on the way back because I think I was a little bit more prepared. 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:54.000 And he discovered SpongeBob SquarePants and watched that for about half an hour, but that's still that still is his limit on screens. 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:55.120 Like, when does this change? 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:56.240 When do they become addicted? 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.839 This this whole addiction to screens that I'm hearing about, when does that happen? 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.519 Yeah, you mean that's his limit? 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:03.600 Not like you've given him a limit of 30 minutes. 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:04.560 Like, no. 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:06.720 Um, I don't know. 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:14.319 I actually think it's when because I don't think when ours were very small, they would lose interest in like TV programs. 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:30.879 I actually think the real dangerous um addiction comes when they start watching like the shorts, you know, like YouTube Shorts or like with my teenager, like TikTok, like or where they watch something and then the next one pops up, and then the next one pops up, and that is where they will lose hours. 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.519 And I think that's the really that's the real like problematic. 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:41.279 But just like a TV programme, there were certain things that mine would watch really like Fyman Sam was one that they would watch for hours. 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:46.480 Um, but often it would be like, I'm bored, he just doesn't watch things over and over. 00:05:46.639 --> 00:06:09.920 He yeah, it's and this is quite funny because obviously it's really good that he doesn't watch screens, but equally when you're on a 14-hour flight, oh yeah, please, yeah, and now you know, on the way back, we're in this like jet lag nightmare where well, yesterday he woke up between two and three and was wide awake, and then again properly at four and was awake from 4 a.m. 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:31.120 Oh my god, and then today he woke up at 5, so that's not quite so bad, but then I I don't really sleep very well after flying, so I just feel all over the place, and he he just bounces back, like they don't seem to worry too much about being tired, do they, kids? 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:36.480 It's just like he's fine, and they don't know, like you know to expect to be jet lagged, right? 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.360 So there's a certain like there's like a mental thing there as well. 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:44.879 So as well as like the physical, genuine like what's happening, you also have that expectation there. 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.279 Whereas he he just lives like one day at a time. 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:49.839 Well, what yeah, I would say like 10 minutes at a time. 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.920 Living his best life, he's got no idea what's yeah, what's going on. 00:06:54.000 --> 00:07:05.439 So I did mess up though today because I was like, whoo, you've got gymnastics gymnastics class today, and he was really excited about it, and then I realized I'd got the wrong day, and it's actually tomorrow, not today. 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:16.240 So um, I thought I was gonna be late because I he was having a slight meltdown because he wanted to go to gymnastics and like we were talking all about his outfit and all that sort of stuff, because it's a new class he's going to. 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.759 So, yeah, so yeah, bad mummy fail. 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:30.959 But yeah, the tired, the the tiredness thing in general when your parents is just like for me and Brady, it's almost competitive about who's more tired. 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:34.959 Yeah, yeah, who's more tired, but also who has the right to be more tired. 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:42.399 So not it's not it's not just about how much sleep you've had or haven't had, it's also like, well, I've been working, I've like, I've been really stressed. 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.079 So I've had this project to get over the line or whatever, so I'm more tired. 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.399 Um, and then or like, oh but yeah, but I was ill, so I haven't caught up on my sleep from that. 00:07:50.480 --> 00:08:15.199 So I'm yeah, we used to do that all the time, and I really remember like more like kind of the newborn baby days, but that really like resentful night feed where you would wake up and the other person would be snoring, and I used to like crash around the bedroom going to like get stuff to feed whichever baby it was, which is really unfair, but basically there was a bit of my brain that was going, Well, if I'm not sleeping, neither are you. 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:24.480 Brady used to wear an Apple watch at night to like to see how much he'd slept, and he stopped because I would be like, So, how is his sleep? 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.439 How much REM sleep did you get, Brady? 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:29.759 He'd be like, Yeah, not you know, not too bad. 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.679 And I'd be like, Look at your watch, look at your watch, how much sleep have you had? 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.960 He'd be like, um, eight and a half hours. 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.159 I'd be like, eight and a half hours. 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:54.240 I used to like passively, aggressively uh take a photo in the middle of the night of like feeding a baby, and then I'd like time stamp it

and put it on Instagram just so that when James woke up, he'd be like, oh, yeah, there she is, two o'clock, four o'clock. 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.159 Why is it though that when you're a kid, you like avoid sleep, don't you? 00:08:58.720 --> 00:08:59.919 Like you just avoid it. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.679 You're like, no, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to go to bed, like I'm not going to bed yet. 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.440 And then when you get to a certain point, you're like, Woohoo, 9 pm, I'm in bed, I'm gonna go to sleep. 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:10.080 I know. 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:18.480 I love bed so much, and I always think like when you're a kid as well, like when I was little, I felt feel like going to bed will send you to bed. 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:19.600 It's like a punishment, isn't it? 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:20.720 You'll go to bed early. 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.960 Honestly, if somebody wanted to send me to bed early now, I'd be so happy, I'd be like, I'm going. 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:26.399 I love bed so much. 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:26.639 Yeah. 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.840 I love I'd love a nap fully dressed, fully clothed. 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:30.639 Yeah, I'll do that. 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:32.559 Oh, it's just wonderful. 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:33.600 But I always, do you know what? 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:34.960 I like to take my socks off. 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:38.480 If I'm having a nap, fully right, this is quite specific. 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:46.559 But say I'm like pottering about and it's this it happens rarely, but you know, say it's like usually my nap, my nap chances are kind of in the Christmas holidays. 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:52.240 So you know, like between Christmas and New Year, we haven't really got anywhere to be, nobody's at 400 sports clubs. 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:54.960 Um, we're all just eating picky bits out of the fridge. 00:09:55.039 --> 00:10:02.639 So I'm not I've not got to make dinner, and I will the opportunity will present itself and I'll have a nap for an hour, but I always have to take my socks off. 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:07.519 So because I because I like the feel of the duvet on my feet, and if I've got socks on, I don't like you. 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:09.440 You know, like how people wear socks in bed? 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.360 I don't like I don't like it. 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:17.919 Apparently, the best way to sleep is by having a cool room and wear socks in bed. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.679 And I read an Instagram post on this, so it absolutely is true. 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.679 Um, but I can't remember why. 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:46.399 No, I don't I get the cool room thing, but even so, I'd rather that my feet felt a little bit cold and then I tucked them in, and then you know, like when you make a little ledge with the duvet and you like and you like I feel like you could start an OnlyFans on um your what you wear on your feet, but my naked feet and my honestly, the OnlyFans would be so disappointing when they scroll up and see the rest of my pyjamas. 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:51.279 They'll be like, oh, unsubscribe, unsubscribe, on my money back. 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:52.559 It's not what I promised. 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:54.159 Anyway, how's your time been? 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.000 How's the last three weeks been for you then? 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.279 While I've been gallivanting around a massive country. 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:06.559 While you've boomeranged back to your homeland, um, I oh, it's been honestly, it's just so busy. 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:13.279 I feel like this is just I could just record myself saying it's really busy, it's a surplus, um, and just play it every week. 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.080 Uh, but yeah, just like lots going on. 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:22.240 All like like like good, not you know, no, no, no dramas, but just so much going on at all times. 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.759 So big uh big updates for us. 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:31.919 Uh okay, so this so this weekend, this coming weekend, I'm taking Henry to not one but two gigs. 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:34.720 I'll guess guess what one of them is, Kylie. 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:36.799 Is it the Royston Club? 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.679 Yes, in Manchester. 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:40.559 What? 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:47.279 I know, but we I've also got to take him to see another band um Friday night in Sheffield. 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:53.919 So basically, what happened was he um we missed out on bad parent alert. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:59.679 We missed out on kind of like the Glastonbury ticket-esque booking for his year nine school trip. 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:06.320 So there are a limited number of spaces for his year nine trip to the Netherlands, and we didn't get in in time and he missed it. 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:12.799 Um so basically, I said, Well, I'll, you know, we can do something else, like instead. 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.720 And obviously, he's chosen gigs because that's his life. 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.720 Uh, but it's come around so quickly. 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:23.519 I booked these because I thought, oh, there's two bands that he wants to see: Sheffield and Manchester, back-to-back nights. 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.000 It'll be a little road trip, little weekend, that'll make sense. 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:29.519 But you know, when as it approaches and you go, Oh, this is this is hell. 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:30.720 That's actually quite a lot. 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:34.080 Also, there are really bad problems with the trains on Sunday, apparently. 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:42.720 So it's like the I don't quite know the ins and outs of it, but you know, like a journey that should already take us like four hours is gonna take like six. 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:44.399 Oh no, yeah. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:48.879 I am looking at it like, oh, not fun, but um he he he will love it. 00:12:48.960 -->

00:12:50.080 He's absolutely buzzing. 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:51.519 So that's that's Henry. 00:12:51.840 --> 00:13:08.639 Jude has had uh oh, I'll tell you what, we've had we have actually had like a bit of a not a not a dilemma, but like for the first time in a long time, you know, when you have a decision to make about something, whether that's work or family or moving house or and you genuinely don't know what to do. 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.720 You know, when you have that, like and it's rare, I can't remember feeling like that for a long time. 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:22.399 But obviously, we live in Exeter and Jude has been invited to trial for Plymouth Argyll Football Academy. 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.759 So big deal, he's done really well. 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:29.519 Um, like obviously really proud of him, and it's an achievement just to be asked a trial. 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:36.000 Like a trial does doesn't mean that he's gonna get into the academy, but it's a really, really good, like obviously, opportunity for him. 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:46.559 But we because we live in Exeter, we've always said, Oh, like if Plymouth are interested, it's just gonna, it's just gonna be a no, like logistically, it's at least an hour to training. 00:13:46.799 --> 00:14:00.799 They train, they train three evenings a week and then have um obviously games on a at a weekend, and so I felt like we were all on the same page about this financially, logistically, we're just not gonna be able to make it work. 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.039 And James and I were quite set on this, right? 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:15.200 And then between us, we kind of were agonizing over this, and we went away and we spoke to like several different people each, so like parents, siblings, friends, like even just people from my co-working space. 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.080 I kind of went in one day and went, What would you do? 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:27.600 And I'm not not one, not one person said, 'Oh yeah, you can't do it.' Every single person went, Oh, you've at least got to let him do the trial, like see how he gets on. 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:31.759 Like, it's an amazing opportunity for him, and it is just a trial. 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:32.960 So, you know, it's eight weeks. 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.919 Hang on, so it's eight weeks, it's not just like one. 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.919 I thought you meant it's like one match. 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:39.039 No, it's eight weeks. 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:44.720 So he basically goes to train with them and play games with them, and then they see how he fits into the squad. 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.879 And basically, and basically if he's good enough and if he's what they're like looking for, I guess. 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:58.159 So then we were like, Oh, and then so James and I have been messaging, being like, Oh, how we're gonna have to let like the the the Academy kind of guy know that we're not it's gonna be a no. 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:02.399 And then we were both messaging each other going, Well, I've spoken to so and so and so and so and so and so. 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:08.000 And James is like, yeah, and I've spoken to my brother, and I've spoken to this person, I've said, and he was like, Has anybody at your end said that we shouldn't do it? 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:10.320 And I'm like, No, and he was like, No, me neither. 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.159 And there comes a point when you're like, Are we mad? 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:19.600 Like, what is so basically look long story short, is he's he's on a trial with Plymouth and he starts tonight. 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:21.679 Isn't it amazing though? 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:32.720 Like the things that you do for your children that if somebody told you this before you had kids, you would be like, No way am I gonna drive three times a week to Plymouth. 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:41.519 Right, like you just wouldn't, or in fact, I'm not gonna go to Sheffield and Manchester for two bands I don't really want to see. 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:42.559 No, I know. 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:50.159 Then you know, because you want the best for them and you want, you know, you want them to be happy, you make all these massive sacrifices. 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:56.799 Yeah, you do, and you do, and like your kind of wants and desires and hobbies definitely take a back seat. 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:59.440 And I think it's at what point there's a balance, isn't there? 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:03.759 Like at what point do you go, okay, no, I can't this this can't be a hundred percent of our life. 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.639 Have you allowed yourself to kind of dream? 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:10.399 I talked about how Edward's gonna be the next Rafa Ruffa. 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.240 I can't think of his name, Nadal. 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:13.600 That's it, that's the one. 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.080 I can't think of a tennis player's name then. 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:23.200 A tennis coach once said that he he had some talent, so you know, dreaming that I'm gonna be the next Judy Murray. 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:24.639 So you absolutely are. 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:26.720 I can see it, I can see it with everybody already. 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:45.840 Do you know what's really interesting is I think as a as parents, James and I are almost too much the other way, not negative, but like quite realistic about things, like you know, you look at the stats for like academy players and all the rest of it, like the number of things that go through the academy system that actually kind of make it. 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:55.039 And I think that we're actually if you've got you know, Jude's 11, he should be, he should be, he should have really big dreams still at this point. 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:56.799 And you're like, you're never gonna make it. 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:57.200 Right. 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.799 Well, like we are, I think we've I think we've

not been. 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:04.160 I actually don't think we've been pushy enough. 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:17.200 Like, and it was he'd had some one-to-one coaching with this amazing coach who basically said to James, like, it's refreshing that you and Sarah aren't like kind of going, yeah, like we need to do everything that it takes. 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:23.279 But I think there was an edge of, but you but maybe there's time for a bit of that, you know, like there's there's a time and a place. 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:32.240 But you're you know, the fact that you're at the side of, you know, basically your Instagram is a mix of your cat and and being on a sideline. 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.240 So, you know, like you do, you do put in the time. 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:50.720 We do, we massively support him, but I feel like where so like there's a lot of I mean, honestly, grassroots football, and then up to kind of like pre-academy, academy football, the parents are fierce. 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:52.000 It's probably like any sport. 00:17:52.079 --> 00:18:08.079 I speak to friends who've got kids that do gymnastics, like Headward's gonna do, or they do swimming competitively, and the parents are, you know, like when you watch like dance mums or you know, like cheerlead, cheerleading mums in America, there is a lot of that, like in the on the football circuit. 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:21.680 We've seen some sites, there's a lot of kind of these like, you know, where parents create like an Instagram account, but for their kids, like footballing journey, like they're like, and Jude isn't like he's not like that, and we're not really like that. 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:25.920 But some parents are kind of going to their kids, you know, somebody's gotta make it, why not? 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:27.119 Like, why not you? 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.039 And I think there's something to be said for that as well. 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:53.599 We need to maybe be I need I need to be more like Judy Murray, basically, on the football side, and not be like, oh well, what will be like even when he did this talent ID day, like the other parents that were there were like all over it, like taking pictures, cutting clips of their kids for reels for Instagram, clambering to speak to the coaches to find out feedback, and we we just collected Jude and left. 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:56.880 We just like James just shook the bloke's hand, said thanks then, and off we went. 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:58.400 And we, you know, went home and went. 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:04.880 Yeah, but I reckon that coach is probably thinking those other parents will be a complete pain in the neck, and you guys won't be. 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:13.200 So um the the most important question I have for you though is are you gonna up your fashion game on the side line? 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:17.359 Because you cannot, you cannot get out your Sainsbury's dry robes. 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:24.559 Kylie, you

have not been on the grassroots football circuit, and I'm telling you, it is a sea of dry robes, okay? 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:25.440 That is what we wear. 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.759 Yeah, but what's it like at that next level, eh? 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:28.720 I don't know yet. 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:29.279 I don't know. 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:30.160 We'll we shall see. 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:44.400 We were at a football tournament on Sunday, and it was hilarious because it was Jude's football tournament, but Wilf was there like as the feral like sideline sibling, and um, they're just a different breed, Jude and Wilf. 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:44.960 It's hilarious. 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:49.039 Like Wilf is foot, Wilf has no doubt that he is gonna be a professional footballer, yeah. 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:51.279 Right, there's no doubt, there's no doubt. 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:54.160 Um, he doesn't even have to practice, it's just natural, you know. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.119 You feel guilty as a parent that he's dragged along to Jude's football all day. 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:01.279 We were literally there the entire day. 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:03.759 And Wilf just gets stuck in. 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:09.200 He goes and like plays with all Jude's football teammates, he comes and says, Oh, can I have a burger or can I have some sweets? 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.119 And it is a bit like the flight situation. 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:26.160 You choose your battles, and he has is basically off his face because he's had like Harabow and then a bag, another bag of pick a mix, and you know, some tournaments they do candy floss, and every part of me is thinking, absolutely not, and yet there we are, he's like got his hand in a candy floss tub. 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:39.519 Um, but I did look at Wilf on Sunday and think he's so like resilient because he just gets dragged around to these things, he's so sociable, he's so um, he just mucks in and like gets on with everybody. 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:41.279 Um, so yeah, that was very sweet. 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:57.119 But I think that's kind of where James and I, our biggest challenge at the moment is not is Wilf not being left out because I feel like we're talking a lot about these gigs that we're taking Henry to, and then there's been a lot of chat about Jude's football trial, and then Wilf is kind of like, Well, what do you want to do? 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:05.039 Well, he wants to do what they want to do, so he wants to go to gigs, but he's too young, he can't go to the sort of gigs I take Henry to, they're like 14 plus. 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:16.400 Oh, I don't know if you saw it, but I found a video of one of these bands that Henry strong armed me into taking him to, and I'm I'm just not sure that I'm gonna survive it. 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:26.079 It's in the they're called Bleach 93, and it's like whereas like the Roisting Club is kind of like indie poppy rock. 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:26.720 Do you know what I mean? 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:30.160 It's like it's quite a nice I'm I'll happily stand in the room and listen to that. 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:34.079 This is like quite rocky, grungy. 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:47.359 Uh the you know, the the main guy uh is like crowd surfing, all the like 19 year old men that look like they might have taken something are like whipping their tops off, and that's like a proper mosh pit. 00:21:47.599 --> 00:22:01.759 And I was like to Henry, I can't he waited, he strategically waited until I bought him the tickets for this nice band that he likes before he showed me their videos on Instagram, and I was Like, I can't go to that. 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:09.440 I can't like I can't headbang in a moss and have a pink-haired crowd surfing front man. 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:11.119 Like, but what can I do? 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:12.240 I'm in, I'm in now. 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:12.720 That's it. 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:14.480 You're gonna have to stand a bit back. 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:15.359 That's the only way. 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:21.680 I was like, oh, couldn't you think I could get away with just like standing at the edges and just supervise Henry in the pit. 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:24.559 So oh, that would scare me. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:36.559 I mean, I love gigs, and I've you know, before Edward, I went all the time to different gigs, and one of the best ones I went to was the streets in Birmingham, and obviously, you know, Mike Skinner's from Birmingham, so it was just absolutely classic. 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:42.400 And he is known for crowd surfing and like you know, getting really involved, yeah. 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:56.160 And so towards the end, he did another like jump into the crowd, and then he got off and he looked a bit awkward, but he finished a song and he was like, right, I've got to go to hospital now because I've dislocated my shoulder by adventures. 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:08.559 No, oh my god, except it's gonna be me, it'll be me that's dislocated my shoulder in the pit, and I'll be carted off and it'll be on everybody's bloody TikToks. 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.480 Oh look at this mum slash man that's come to her. 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:15.680 It's gig, but you know, um that's December's problem. 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:16.480 I'll worry about that. 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:17.599 Yeah, I'll worry about that then. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:19.039 Get through this weekend first. 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:31.119 I I was thinking about you the other day because um when I was in Australia, we went to uh this kind of wildlife park thingy, um, and I was desperate to hold a koala. 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:36.160 Yeah, so I've done I've done it before many, many years ago, and it was such a great experience. 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:47.440 So, you know, it's pretty expensive this thing to do because obviously, you know, you're just taking up a keeper's time and a koala, so you're just doing it like a

private experience, and it is really special and lovely. 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:50.240 So, anyway, we decided to shell out and do it. 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:52.960 Edward wasn't allowed to hold the koala, but me and Brady were. 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.720 But Edward was allowed to touch it, so you know, I thought it'd be really cute. 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:12.000 Anyway, um, got up that morning, got myself ready, and then in the car on the way there, I looked in the mirror and thought, oh no, oh no, it's one of those days, and I was just having a really bad face day. 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:29.680 Like, why does that happen when you know you've got to have pictures taken or you've got to meet somebody, and my face just looked like a big puffball, and then in the pictures, so they take like professional pictures, and then you can take take loads with your camera. 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:34.319 And Brady showed me some of them after, and I was just like, no, no, no, no, no. 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:40.799 There was one picture that actually I put on Instagram, but the and I was looking like you filter it, did you filter it? 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.839 Of course, like yeah, get put Paris Paris all the way. 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.279 To be honest, I don't even consider Paris to be a filter anymore. 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:50.400 Paris is basically Paris is ground zero, that's default. 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.480 That's that's what I just look like. 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:54.720 Swipe across Paris. 00:24:54.880 --> 00:25:01.680 That's I mean, I like to think I look like Paris in real life, but they need to call it the new normal, right? 00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:02.240 Exactly. 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:03.839 We're doing Paris as a minimum. 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:04.240 Move on. 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:05.519 Next question. 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:19.440 Yeah, so I parressed the crap out of my picture, and I I could only do one where I was like looking down at the koala where I look like I'm kind of you know really in love with it, but actually it was just the only picture where my face didn't look like a big puff. 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.240 Oh no, do you know what this has just reminded me of? 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:23.920 Talking about the Paris filter. 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:25.359 Have you ever double Paris'? 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.759 So this so once, and this will have been from a bad face day. 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:38.160 Like, I will sometimes just come onto the camera and story myself in my natural state, even occasionally, Kylie, without the Paris, right? 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:40.079 Like, as long as the lighting's good. 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:47.440 But I remember once I had to upload a picture for something, some like book festival or something, and I was having a definitely having a bad face day. 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.319 Like my skin didn't look very good, and I just looked really tired. 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:55.200 So I Paris

filtered it on stories, and it was like it hadn't done enough of the job. 00:25:55.279 --> 00:26:00.880 So I saved the photo, up re-uploaded the Paris photo, and then Paris' that. 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.720 So I double Paris' myself, and it was it was amazing. 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.880 They need a double Paris filter, right? 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:08.720 A double Paris option. 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:15.279 But what is it about your I know you said you look puffy, but like you wake up some days and think I look it's the same with hair, isn't it? 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:23.359 It's like on the days that you don't need to have a good hair day, I just chucked my hair up in a claw clip the other day and bumped to the shops, it's never looked better. 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.880 I was like hoping to bump into people because I was like, look, I look great. 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:34.160 And I could actually like straighten or blow dry or you know, try and do something nice with my hair, and it just looks like a dog's dinner. 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.440 I'm like, what is the point? 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.240 Um, so yeah, I do get I do get the bad facing. 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.240 I had it recently where I was a bit too experimental with skincare. 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:50.640 So you know how we've got to that stage where we're both like absolute suckers for you need retinol, you need vitamin C, um, you need hyaluronic acid. 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:57.119 Um, and I'd I'd got a new, so I'd sort of you have to like build up to using retinol, but you get the retinal burn. 00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:03.759 And I had a new one, and I was a little bit gung-ho, I was a little bit like I've done retinol before, it's not my first rodeo. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:04.079 Yeah. 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.920 Retinol before, you know, the other stuff before bed. 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:14.240 And then I woke up the next day and my face was so red, like kind of like a little, like I'd been wind. 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.039 And actually, that is what I thought had happened because I'd been out the day before. 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.880 So for all day I was like, oh my god, because I always wear sunscreen, always on my face. 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:28.240 Like, I'm really ever since I went and had one of those scanners done where they check like for sun damage. 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.880 I'm like factor 50 on my face every day. 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.960 So I was like, I'm so annoyed, maybe I didn't like put enough SPF on yesterday. 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:41.359 I've obviously got windburn, and then as the day wore on, it was like a bit itchy and a little bit like scaly, like a little bit dry. 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.759 And I was like, fuck's sake, it's I've over-retinoled was what I've done. 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:56.160 Um, and obviously, this is in the pursuit of trying to have good skin, and I actually had awful skin for the rest of that week, and I

was like, I'd have been better off just getting back to my blue tub, trusty blue tub of Nivea. 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:57.119 I wouldn't have had this problem. 00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:58.240 I wouldn't have had this problem. 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.880 Well, apparently Kate Middleton uses Nivea. 00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:01.759 Yeah, okay. 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:06.079 Well, I I've we have like, you know, the really thick one, the dark blue one. 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.079 Um I quite like that as a moisturizer. 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:18.160 Um, I think you can overcomplicate it, but everybody that I look at online is like, oh no, you do need to be doing retinol and like hyaluronic acid or vitamin C. 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:19.200 Like you, yeah. 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.440 I totally sympathise with the bad face day. 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.519 I mean, it probably happens to people on their wedding day, which would be a real bummer, wouldn't it? 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.759 I had I I did a book event in Winchester recently, which was lovely. 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:34.720 Um, it was like an in-conversation with thing, but I was like the I was asking the questions basically. 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.160 So I was the interviewer. 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:42.400 And I'm I like I just didn't consider my outfit properly. 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.319 So I wore, I thought I need to go smart, but kind of like cool. 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.599 I was basically trying to go for like lecturer vibes, you know. 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:49.839 Yeah. 00:28:50.559 --> 00:29:01.279 I thought, so I had uh like long black linen trousers, trainers, a nice like tank like vest, and then like a denim, like oversized denim shirt, bit of jewellery. 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:02.480 I was quite happy with that. 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:11.359 Like sounds good, but I'd underestimated actually how short the trap the trousers are supposed to like cover the shoes, but obviously for all of the event you'll sat down. 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:20.480 Oh no, and I wear like I do quite like a bright like sock, and I wore like these pink socks. 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:25.200 I just generally wear under jeans, like they've got sh they've got sheep on, Kylie, okay, right? 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:48.799 And um I wore these socks, which you know, sometimes people wear colourful socks as a fashion statement, you know, like you kind of but oh my god, so then they filmed it, they filmed the thing, and then uh we were obviously at the front of like an auditorium, so people were like sat on like tiered seating up to the back, and then all evening people were uploading pictures being like, Oh, great to see like Sarah and Dolly. 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:58.720 And I was like, holy shit, all you could see basically from like the top of the auditorium looking down, it was basically Dolly, who was in like this look beautiful, she's very glamorous, beautiful like dress and heels. 00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.039

She'd gone because it was her books, it was her do really. 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:12.319 She'd gone for uh me going for trendy lectra vibes, basically just looked like a toddler with like pick sheep socks and trainers, and every single photo that was uploaded was all I could see. 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.960 And in the end, I had to put it on Instagram and put. 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.240 I will say, I didn't realise how prominent the socks were gonna be. 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:27.680 Um somebody was like, I thought you were going for that sort of vibe, you know, that kind of like hipster, like hipster dad, like let's get the um let's get the bright socks out, but it was an absolute disaster. 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:34.640 And in the morning, like the sad, the tragic thing is in the morning before I left really early, I looked at myself in the full-length mirror and I was like, I'm happy with that. 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.079 That's a good look for the event. 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.960 And every single photo, I'm like, oh brilliant, for God's sake. 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:42.799 They're the little sheep are like great, oh great looking. 00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:47.440 See, it would have been okay if you didn't have sheep on them, like the bright socks probably would have been okay. 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:54.559 Yeah, I just feel like they were very distracting, like it didn't work as an outfit um with the socks, but that that that's it. 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:58.799 Every single photo of that event now is tainted because the socks are massive. 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.200 Look, at least you weren't wearing a dry robe. 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.039 I wasn't wearing my dry robe. 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.079 I wasn't wearing it. 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.039 You're gonna have to get over your dry robe hate, Kylie. 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:14.319 One day we're gonna meet up and I'm gonna wear it, and I'm gonna make I'm gonna make you walk round with me in it, and it'll be like exposure therapy. 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.279 You'll get used to it. 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.279 I'm just gonna pretend I don't know you. 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:23.039 It's like but it's all right because you all have your cap on, your trendy cap, so you can pull it down and be like, I don't know her. 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.559 I don't know what covering my puffy face, covering your bad face day. 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.799 Um, yeah, what a what a carry-on. 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.880 Yeah, I should probably wrap up so I can go and crack on with the life admin. 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.359 Yeah, good luck with your epic journeys. 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.920 Yeah, and good luck with the uh the jet lag. 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.119 I hope uh I hope you can pull pull through it. 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:42.720 Thank you everyone for listening. 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:44.079 Get in touch with us the usual ways. 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:45.200 We love getting emails. 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.640 We must read some of the emails that we've got actually next time because they have been funny. 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.200 Yeah, we did have a couple of poo stories, I think, which were quite funny following last week's highbrow chat. 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:54.559 So yeah, we'll have to get on now. 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:55.039 Yeah. 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.480 Um, thanks for listening. 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:57.519 We'll be back soon. 00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:58.240 Bye bye. 00:31:58.480 --> 00:31:58.960 Bye.