บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Hegseth Lives (with Help from “Democrats”) | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

is blocking gear that's needed 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.040 to repair Gaza's sewage-contaminated stormwater 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:37.399 basin. People are, there's heavy rains right 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.120 now in Gaza. Tents are being flooded. Disease 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.300 is spreading among nearly a million displaced 00:04:42.300 --> 00:04:45.240 people who have managed somehow to survive the 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.180 genocide. So anyway, that's what we've got for 00:04:48.180 --> 00:04:49.579 you. Good morning, Jamarl. How are you doing? 00:04:50.389 --> 00:04:53.589 I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine. I watched, I 00:04:53.589 --> 00:04:56.490 didn't see the vote tally until this morning. 00:04:57.149 --> 00:05:00.970 And it's, I wasn't even, let's start 00:05:00.970 --> 00:05:03.129 there. Yeah, let's start there. Those were on 00:05:03.129 --> 00:05:07.769 my mind. Let's start there. All right. 11 Democrats 00:05:07.769 --> 00:05:10.529 decide not to show up to vote. We should talk 00:05:10.529 --> 00:05:13.660 about who they are. Nancy Pelosi being the top 00:05:13.660 --> 00:05:16.839 one. Where's my list? I had the list. I have 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:18.699 the list here. Let me pull it up here. Okay, 00:05:18.779 --> 00:05:24.579 so this is an order of AIPAC funds. Haley Stevens, 00:05:24.699 --> 00:05:28.180 who recently lost to Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, but 00:05:28.180 --> 00:05:30.740 this is her last term. Haley Stevens, who received 00:05:30.740 --> 00:05:34.000 nearly $16 million from AIPAC. Lauren Gillen 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.579 of New York. nearly over half a million dollars. 00:05:36.819 --> 00:05:40.779 Marilyn Strickland of Washington, $371,000 from 00:05:40.779 --> 00:05:44.480 AIPAC. Stephen Horsford of Nevada, $214,000. 00:05:44.740 --> 00:05:48.040 Pelosi, $166,000. I thought with all 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.480 the money she had, she really doesn't need to 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.720 take this money, but. Julia Brownley, 00:05:53.819 --> 00:05:59.180 $134,000, also a Californian. Pettersen of Colorado, 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:03.779 125. Lou Correa of California, 80,000. Frederica 00:06:03.779 --> 00:06:07.319 Wilson of Florida, 39,000. Melanie Stansbury 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:10.279 of New Mexico, 28,000. And Jonathan Jackson 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.800 of Illinois, he brings in, bringing up the rear 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.740 with a mere $21,000, which will not even buy 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:19.740 you a shitty car these days. Yeah, he was cheap. 00:06:20.379 --> 00:06:24.639 He was a cheap whore. He's a skanky crack whore 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:26.500 is what he is. Yeah, he's a skanky crack whore. 00:06:26.579 --> 00:06:28.399 The other ones were a little bit more highbrow 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.560 about what they were willing to do. Hell, Hakeem 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:33.639 Jeffries got $1.7 billion over the course of 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:37.000 his lifetime. Yeah, he's a call

girl. Yeah, he's 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.920 just insane. Right out of college. What's wild 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:44.339 about this is it's a dog chasing a car and 00:06:44.339 --> 00:06:46.620 not knowing what to do with it. The idea that 00:06:46.620 --> 00:06:49.300 they had the capability. They've complained about 00:06:49.300 --> 00:06:52.689 the war. bitched and moaned and they've 00:06:52.689 --> 00:06:54.610 all the Trump people are cronies and everything 00:06:54.610 --> 00:06:56.529 else and you had your opportunity to take down 00:06:56.529 --> 00:07:00.029 the general or lieutenant of Donald Trump's mafia 00:07:00.029 --> 00:07:02.970 empire or whatever you want to call it and they 00:07:02.970 --> 00:07:06.399 don't show up to do it and they don't show up 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.199 to do it and from my point of view it's 00:07:08.230 --> 00:07:12.250 brace for disappointment this is just starting 00:07:12.250 --> 00:07:16.759 now this is only one plinko chip. We need 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:18.600 to now we need to tee it up for people who, 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:20.180 especially for foreigners who might not 00:07:20.180 --> 00:07:21.980 really understand how this all works. Right. 00:07:22.139 --> 00:07:24.379 So because we have a lot of foreigners 00:07:24.379 --> 00:07:26.500 who watch the show, actually. Oh, fair enough. 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:31.620 OK, so God of War, Secretary of War Hegseth has 00:07:31.620 --> 00:07:34.540 been doing things that people have been considering 00:07:34.540 --> 00:07:37.279 crimes such as attacking fishermen or let's say 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.439 murdering fishermen in the Caribbean. The attack 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.620 on Iran and the Manab school specifically where 00:07:41.620 --> 00:07:43.060 a hundred people were murdered in the first. 00:07:43.980 --> 00:07:46.300 or hundreds. It was 140, if I'm not mistaken, 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.240 of teachers and students and parents that were 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:53.899 killed. Yeah. And it was a triple tap. I didn't 00:07:53.899 --> 00:07:55.540 even realize it was a triple tap. I thought it 00:07:55.540 --> 00:07:58.560 was a double tap. But they attacked, waited, 00:07:58.779 --> 00:08:01.500 hit it again, waited, and hit it again. They 00:08:01.500 --> 00:08:04.240 were waiting for rescuers and good Samaritans 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.220 and first responders to show up so they could 00:08:07.220 --> 00:08:09.740 kill them too. Exactly. So these are some of 00:08:09.740 --> 00:08:11.829 the things that the impeachment articles were 00:08:11.829 --> 00:08:13.769 associated with. Basically, you were committing 00:08:13.769 --> 00:08:15.730 crimes. You knew you were committing crimes, 00:08:15.949 --> 00:08:18.470 and you continued to commit crimes. Now, Hegseth's 00:08:18.470 --> 00:08:20.110 argument is obviously what a president told me 00:08:20.110 --> 00:08:22.709 to do it. Okay, well, the second. That argument 00:08:22.709 --> 00:08:25.610 didn't really work real great at Nuremberg. No, 00:08:25.629 --> 00:08:27.290 it didn't, because they can't tell you to do 00:08:27.290 --> 00:08:29.750 illegal orders, which is supposedly the backstop. 00:08:30.069 --> 00:08:32.809 But either way, Democrats had the opportunity 00:08:32.809 --> 00:08:36.269 to impeach Hegseth. Thomas Massie put out articles 00:08:36.269 --> 00:08:39.159 of impeachment into the House of Congress. Also, 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.159 the War Powers Act was part of it too, right? 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.179 Violating, it was the fact that this war was 00:08:43.179 --> 00:08:45.879 not authorized by Congress. Right. And he kept 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.840 the war going even after the resolution. Look, 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.799 what it boils down to is Republicans actually 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.110 backed Hegseth. Meaning Hegseth making the 00:08:55.110 --> 00:08:56.629 speeches and everything else. Apparently Republicans 00:08:56.629 --> 00:09:01.779 mostly backed him. Democrats, 11, didn't show 00:09:01.779 --> 00:09:05.929 up. Yeah. Now that's the thing. So there might 00:09:05.929 --> 00:09:08.690 be people who think, well. the 00:09:08.690 --> 00:09:10.970 Democrats might have had something to do. They 00:09:10.970 --> 00:09:14.830 it's well AOC is trying to argue 00:09:14.830 --> 00:09:17.610 well I don't know if people were. let's 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:20.250 play the video. I got the video. AOC. yeah let's 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:23.190 play the video Robby. this is AOC trying to explain 00:09:23.190 --> 00:09:26.389 to people why the Democrats didn't show up and 00:09:26.389 --> 00:09:29.090 by the way there's also is it the first one 00:09:29.090 --> 00:09:31.490 that you sent me or the second one? yeah the first 00:09:31.490 --> 00:09:33.269 one let's do the first one first. this is AOC 00:09:33.269 --> 00:09:37.159 trying to justify and explain why Hegseth didn't 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:38.799 get impeached when Democrats had the votes to 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.809 do it. Let's play the clip. This is going to 00:09:42.809 --> 00:09:46.710 be painful. Yes. And that means the Republicans 00:09:46.710 --> 00:09:48.649 could breathe a bit of a sigh of relief because 00:09:48.649 --> 00:09:50.509 they were worried that this impeachment trial. 00:09:50.509 --> 00:09:52.789 Congressman, what do you think of the 11 absences, 00:09:52.909 --> 00:09:56.769 Democratic absences right now in the House? This 00:09:56.769 --> 00:09:58.350 could have passed if these Democrats were here. 00:09:58.629 --> 00:10:01.509 How concerned are you about that? The 00:10:02.149 --> 00:10:04.330 people sent us here to do a job. I can't speak 00:10:04.330 --> 00:10:07.929 to. I don't know if anyone had any real 00:10:07.929 --> 00:10:11.669 health issues or anything significant to that 00:10:11.669 --> 00:10:14.470 respect. So I want to leave room for that. But 00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:16.049 that being

said, at the end of the day, we're 00:10:16.049 --> 00:10:19.269 here to do a job. And the same way I had a clock 00:10:19.269 --> 00:10:20.970 in when I worked at a restaurant, we got a clock 00:10:20.970 --> 00:10:26.009 in and do our work here. But again, I don't know 00:10:26.009 --> 00:10:27.889 if anyone had any outstanding health issues, 00:10:27.950 --> 00:10:29.490 and I want to keep room for that as well. And 00:10:29.490 --> 00:10:31.230 you want this to be a top priority, the exit 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:33.470 impeachment of the new Congress? Well, hopefully 00:10:33.470 --> 00:10:35.389 we don't even have to wait for the new Congress. 00:10:35.490 --> 00:10:39.080 I think that. All right. So I sent you another 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.360 one, Robby, the one at the very bottom. This 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.559 is a representative. Listen to what he said about 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:47.179 what they're doing about Hakeem Jeffries. The 00:10:47.179 --> 00:10:51.379 clip is mind blowing because the guy looks like 00:10:51.379 --> 00:10:54.960 he's in a hostage situation. By the way, I just 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:56.720 want to say parenthetically before you run that 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.840 clip, Robby. If 11 members of Congress are all 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:05.769 out sick, do they have the measles? Is 00:11:05.769 --> 00:11:09.990 COVID making a return? this is kind 00:11:09.990 --> 00:11:12.529 of a major health issue. Is it Legionnaire's 00:11:12.529 --> 00:11:14.870 disease has gotten into the duct systems in the 00:11:14.870 --> 00:11:17.429 Capitol? if we have that many lawmakers 00:11:17.429 --> 00:11:22.350 laid low, also, is this a form of biological 00:11:22.350 --> 00:11:25.750 warfare that only impacts Democratic legislators 00:11:25.750 --> 00:11:29.610 and not Republican legislators? inquiring 00:11:29.610 --> 00:11:32.190 minds want to know. Yeah, they got to explain 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:36.350 that. That's pretty conspicuous. not show up 00:11:36.350 --> 00:11:38.409 to get somebody. Only Democrats. Republicans 00:11:38.409 --> 00:11:44.409 are unaffected by this mystery, Hegseth 00:11:44.409 --> 00:11:48.190 disorder. Wait, Robby, play the one, it says 00:11:48.190 --> 00:11:52.669 to speaker or not to speaker, the Jeffries one. 00:11:53.049 --> 00:11:54.669 In fact, you can play the Jeffries one if you 00:11:54.669 --> 00:11:57.629 want to, just to clear the queue. But it's up 00:11:57.629 --> 00:12:00.289 to you. Let's play Jeffries. So the other part 00:12:00.289 --> 00:12:03.110 to this is who they're going to elect for the 00:12:03.110 --> 00:12:04.590 Speaker of the House and Speaker of the Senate. 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:08.529 a majority leader of the Senate. Jeffries. let's 00:12:08.529 --> 00:12:11.889 play Jeffries. this is the guy. Israel today Israel 00:12:11.889 --> 00:12:15.470 tomorrow Israel forever. Congress will continue 00:12:15.470 --> 00:12:20.850 to support in a bipartisan way the state

of Israel 00:12:20.850 --> 00:12:25.190 and Israel's unequivocal right to exist as a 00:12:25.190 --> 00:12:29.389 Jewish and democratic state always and forever 00:12:29.389 --> 00:12:36.539 always and forever. Always and forever. And we 00:12:36.539 --> 00:12:39.320 will stand with Israel today, stand with Israel 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:44.320 tomorrow, and stand with Israel forever. It is 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.879 important that we keep it a bipartisan issue, 00:12:47.980 --> 00:12:52.500 and I'm committed to that. So that's the guy. 00:12:52.899 --> 00:12:55.200 Meaning, you've had an election. Part of the 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.279 election was the Iran war. Part of the election 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.700 was the economic devastation from that war. But 00:12:59.700 --> 00:13:01.750 the other part of it was the association with 00:13:01.750 --> 00:13:06.269 Israel, this betrayal that you've launched a 00:13:06.269 --> 00:13:08.710 war at the behest of a foreign leader that is 00:13:08.710 --> 00:13:10.870 committing a genocide. That's true on the Republican 00:13:10.870 --> 00:13:12.950 side, and that's definitely true on the Democratic 00:13:12.950 --> 00:13:15.769 side. To the Democrats, it's 80-something 00:13:15.769 --> 00:13:17.610 percent that believes Israel was committing a 00:13:17.610 --> 00:13:19.409 genocide or at the very least ethnic cleansing. 00:13:19.690 --> 00:13:22.789 I don't know who the 20% are, but yeah. Yeah, 00:13:22.789 --> 00:13:24.649 who the hell is the 20%, right? But that's the 00:13:24.649 --> 00:13:28.370 guy who, after this wave election, where they 00:13:28.370 --> 00:13:31.299 decided to put Democrats in office. That's how 00:13:31.299 --> 00:13:33.940 they're starting by putting that guy as a head 00:13:33.940 --> 00:13:37.200 up in charge. Hakeem Jeffries. Yeah. And this 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.100 is even we talked about it yesterday on the show. 00:13:39.460 --> 00:13:43.360 The head of the House Progressive Caucus, which 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.620 is, people like AOC, Ilhan Omar, members 00:13:46.620 --> 00:13:50.419 of the Squad belong to that group. And they are 00:13:50.419 --> 00:13:53.340 going to they announced weaselly that they 00:13:53.340 --> 00:13:56.480 were going to support Hakeem Jeffries and probably 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.740 Chuck Schumer, although I think Schumer's in 00:13:58.740 --> 00:14:00.799 a little more jeopardy, a little more, but not 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.159 really. But Jeffries is going to take it, and 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.299 I suspect Schumer is going to get it. And what 00:14:05.299 --> 00:14:06.820 the argument that they've started to make is, 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.879 well, it's not about the person, it's about the 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:12.899 trajectory of policy, and that we're on the same 00:14:12.899 --> 00:14:15.960 page, and that we're pushing for the. So you're 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:17.960 trying to say that people don't matter.

So if 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.809 I had a lefty administration. And in the left 00:14:21.809 --> 00:14:24.149 administration, I believed in open borders. And 00:14:24.149 --> 00:14:27.169 I put in Stephen Miller. Right. It doesn't make 00:14:27.169 --> 00:14:30.470 sense. Right. People are policy. Yeah, that's 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:32.490 that's a big cliche in Washington. 00:14:32.610 --> 00:14:35.909 Right. personnel is policy. Yes, it is. 00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:38.429 Who you put in matters. Let's play this clip. 00:14:38.509 --> 00:14:41.909 And this is the last clip. This is a representative. 00:14:42.570 --> 00:14:45.129 Evening, y'all. So it's starting to get real 00:14:45.129 --> 00:14:49.669 over here. Yes, it must be Monday. Tonight I 00:14:49.669 --> 00:14:54.100 met with, we'll call them senior members of 00:14:54.100 --> 00:14:59.620 the Democratic House, who told me in no uncertain 00:14:59.620 --> 00:15:07.669 terms that the decision as to whether or not 00:15:07.669 --> 00:15:12.889 I support Jeffries, regardless of his willingness 00:15:12.889 --> 00:15:16.110 to speak with me and meet the interests of my 00:15:16.110 --> 00:15:18.870 constituents on a couple of key issues. Number 00:15:18.870 --> 00:15:21.769 one, getting a constitutional amendment to Citizens 00:15:21.769 --> 00:15:25.509 United and number two ending U.S. support for 00:15:25.509 --> 00:15:29.070 the war in Iran and the country Israel that 00:15:29.070 --> 00:15:33.990 led us into it. that would basically mean 00:15:33.990 --> 00:15:37.649 both making my life a living hell for the next 00:15:37.649 --> 00:15:42.240 two years here in Washington as well as being 00:15:43.649 --> 00:15:49.809 sure to lose my election in two years. 00:15:49.850 --> 00:15:52.389 we kind of knew this stuff was coming. It's part 00:15:52.389 --> 00:15:56.250 of the stuff you see in the movies. It's a whole 00:15:56.250 --> 00:16:00.570 other thing when, it's in person by 00:16:00.570 --> 00:16:03.750 people who actually care about you and are cheering 00:16:03.750 --> 00:16:07.149 for you, but expect you to wear the team jersey 00:16:07.149 --> 00:16:11.929 and, be a good team player. 00:16:11.950 --> 00:16:15.529 we're searching our hearts tonight as to how 00:16:15.529 --> 00:16:19.830 we can reach Leader Jeffries. Help him be a better 00:16:19.830 --> 00:16:24.789 speaker. At the end of the day, the big D Democratic 00:16:24.789 --> 00:16:29.370 Party needs some little d democracy. And I'm 00:16:29.370 --> 00:16:32.570 just a stubborn SOB. OK, let's stop right there. 00:16:32.710 --> 00:16:34.889 I love that clip. We should introduce who that 00:16:34.889 --> 00:16:38.649 guy is. That guy is an incoming new progressive 00:16:38.649 --> 00:16:40.669 member of the House of Representatives, right? 00:16:40.809 --> 00:16:44.120 Yep. They put in a screw some. And he. I love 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.639 how he says, yeah, this is something in 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.919 the movies.

He was, they're going to make 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.159 my life a living hell if I don't vote for Jeffries. 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.059 I'm going to lose my seat. But then he says, 00:16:54.259 --> 00:16:58.389 but they care about me so much. They want to 00:16:58.389 --> 00:17:03.610 know. Yeah. Tony Soprano cared about Big Pussy 00:17:03.610 --> 00:17:07.190 before he shot him on that boat, right? 00:17:07.210 --> 00:17:09.890 he cared about him a lot. He cared about him. 00:17:10.170 --> 00:17:12.869 He's. the guy's. Because what 00:17:12.869 --> 00:17:15.670 he's trying to imply is, look, I wouldn't vote 00:17:15.670 --> 00:17:19.579 for Jeffries if I had my druthers. But I'd lose 00:17:19.579 --> 00:17:22.960 my seat. My life would be miserable. But hey, 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.240 man, they care about me so much. And so we need 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.200 to be team player and figure out how to make 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.299 that work. And Bowman, Jamaal Bowman. That guy, 00:17:31.299 --> 00:17:32.859 by the way, he has incredible balls for having 00:17:32.859 --> 00:17:36.960 put that video out online. he's fucked 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:41.259 six ways till Sunday. Yeah, but it's sort of 00:17:41.259 --> 00:17:44.380 like MTG, right? once you take the path, 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.859 it reminds me of something that, I think 00:17:46.859 --> 00:17:48.900 it was Bernardine Dohrn, the Weather Underground 00:17:48.900 --> 00:17:52.220 lady, who was also affiliated with Black Panthers, 00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:54.640 who often had the same, expressed similar ideas, 00:17:54.819 --> 00:17:57.680 which were basically once you choose the path 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.259 of resistance, you are either going to end up 00:18:00.259 --> 00:18:04.670 victorious, in prison, or dead. And the 00:18:04.670 --> 00:18:07.490 thing is, in this case, this guy's case, once 00:18:07.490 --> 00:18:10.089 he posts, he hits send on that cell phone 00:18:10.089 --> 00:18:13.230 video in his white T-shirt. He was going to 00:18:13.230 --> 00:18:17.509 end up not victorious. He's going to be in permanent 00:18:17.509 --> 00:18:20.809 opposition to the Democratic Party within the 00:18:20.809 --> 00:18:23.910 Democratic Party. And to think it's sort 00:18:23.910 --> 00:18:26.390 of but he still kind of wants to be loved. 00:18:26.609 --> 00:18:30.430 It's I want to be embraced. It's, no, 00:18:30.630 --> 00:18:33.150 once you choose the path of resistance. 00:18:33.980 --> 00:18:36.680 once you work for a Russian radio station, 00:18:36.819 --> 00:18:40.920 once you work for, once you do a bunch of cartoons 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.380 that are anti-Zionist, anything, you're going, 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:46.420 you're now out, right? You're on the outside 00:18:46.420 --> 00:18:48.619 looking in and that's how it is. And, 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:50.400 you have to live with that. You have to, 00:18:50.420 --> 00:18:53.779 I like this guy, but he's a bunny, right? 00:18:53.900 --> 00:18:58.180 He's a soft bunny. He doesn't know how, and he's 00:18:58.180 --> 00:19:00.279 just learned how the sausage is made. And guess 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.220 what? He's the sausage. He might just be shell- 00:19:03.220 --> 00:19:07.240 shocked. JT, you talked about this yesterday, 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:09.640 how sometimes you meet your heroes, you get disappointed. 00:19:10.619 --> 00:19:12.940 he may have actually thought that maybe 00:19:12.940 --> 00:19:17.440 the Democratic Party uses this thing called democracy. 00:19:17.619 --> 00:19:19.259 Now he's there, he's just, no, it's not. 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.319 He didn't pay attention to Bernie. Well, 00:19:23.339 --> 00:19:25.140 people, a lot of times what they do is they see 00:19:25.140 --> 00:19:26.940 what they want to see because of confirmation 00:19:26.940 --> 00:19:30.160 bias. that's the thing. I'd be guilty 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:32.259 of it. Probably everybody has. Everybody has. 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.700 It's funny he's making this video, though, because 00:19:34.700 --> 00:19:37.779 he's saying two different things. Well, maybe 00:19:37.779 --> 00:19:39.319 it was because he realized if he wants to be 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:41.160 loved, be loved by the people who elected you, 00:19:41.180 --> 00:19:43.079 not by the party bosses who screwed the people 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:45.099 who sent you there to do the job. See, that's 00:19:45.099 --> 00:19:46.940 not my interpretation of this video. My interpretation 00:19:46.940 --> 00:19:50.730 of that video is that he's falling in line. 00:19:50.789 --> 00:19:52.910 oh, they'll make my life a living hell and blah, 00:19:52.990 --> 00:19:54.849 blah, blah. So, we got to vote for 00:19:54.849 --> 00:19:57.150 Hakeem. That was my takeaway, too, Jamarl. 00:19:57.269 --> 00:20:00.170 My impression is if I had to guess how this guy 00:20:00.170 --> 00:20:02.539 is going to vote, he's going to vote for 00:20:02.539 --> 00:20:04.900 Jeffries as speaker. yeah the one with the video 00:20:04.900 --> 00:20:08.049 well that's my point that's tomorrow's point 00:20:08.049 --> 00:20:10.470 yeah that's my point it's such a weird video 00:20:10.470 --> 00:20:13.269 in one sense he's outing the fact that he's being 00:20:13.269 --> 00:20:16.309 knuckled and he's it sounds like he's saying 00:20:16.309 --> 00:20:17.509 but they're going to make my life a living hell 00:20:17.509 --> 00:20:19.049 if I don't do this it's almost a justification 00:20:19.049 --> 00:20:21.950 and then he kind of is but they love me 00:20:21.950 --> 00:20:24.839 so much and they care about me it's just weird 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:27.819 they love me if they love me as 00:20:27.819 --> 00:20:32.029 if they were my own abusive mothers right right 00:20:32.029 --> 00:20:34.950 it sounds a hostage video 00:20:34.950 --> 00:20:37.650 to me it is it's yeah he's about to be set 00:20:37.650 --> 00:20:40.509 on fire and set up

and and put out in 00:20:40.509 --> 00:20:42.569 a cage it brought out in a cage in an 00:20:42.569 --> 00:20:44.410 orange jumpsuit he's already got there and Jamaal 00:20:44.410 --> 00:20:48.289 Bowman came out with a deal saying hey man if 00:20:48.289 --> 00:20:51.230 Chuck Schumer and what's his name end up as 00:20:51.230 --> 00:20:54.710 Speaker of the House or Majority Leader 00:20:54.710 --> 00:20:58.450 don't be angry. Don't get pissed off. The 00:20:58.450 --> 00:21:03.750 voters are angry. we're beyond that point, 00:21:03.890 --> 00:21:06.130 right? all voters in this country are angry. 00:21:07.490 --> 00:21:09.670 That's the one thing that all of us, Democrats, 00:21:09.869 --> 00:21:11.650 Republicans, everyone else, we're all angry. 00:21:12.450 --> 00:21:14.069 Yeah, but see, Jamaal Bowman is missing the boat. 00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:17.250 What he's trying to argue is don't get dejected 00:21:17.250 --> 00:21:20.329 from the process just because Chuck Schumer and 00:21:20.329 --> 00:21:23.710 what's his name wins. But what he's missing out 00:21:23.710 --> 00:21:26.339 of this, it's so tone deaf. Don't vote for him. 00:21:26.339 --> 00:21:28.619 You have an election of people who are very angry, 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.099 as you point out. And your response to that is, 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:32.500 well, we're just going to keep everything the 00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:35.450 same. Right. Nothing will fundamentally change 00:21:35.450 --> 00:21:39.849 in the immortal words of Joe Biden in 2019. OK, 00:21:40.009 --> 00:21:43.609 so listen, we got to talk about. So, OK, so basically 00:21:43.609 --> 00:21:46.470 this is for people who haven't followed because 00:21:46.470 --> 00:21:49.170 this is a sleep. It's a somewhat obscure tactic. 00:21:49.769 --> 00:21:54.819 But when Democrats want an outcome that they 00:21:54.819 --> 00:21:57.200 want to blame on the Republicans this is the 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.039 thing that they do. they've done it a number of 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:02.799 times where they basically just have enough 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.779 Democrats decide to not show up and then the 00:22:06.779 --> 00:22:09.000 Democrats the Republicans get a majority that 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.160 they would not otherwise have. right and that's 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:17.279 what happened here. okay so the question is why 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:21.049 and so okay it's okay I'm just gonna. It's not 00:22:21.049 --> 00:22:26.369 AOC's contagion. This is not, no one 00:22:26.369 --> 00:22:28.710 suffered from Hegsethitis. That didn't happen. 00:22:29.190 --> 00:22:32.089 It's what happened is that they so 00:22:32.089 --> 00:22:34.890 they had a caucus. And this was Hakeem 00:22:34.890 --> 00:22:37.289 Jeffries who did this. And they counted the votes 00:22:37.289 --> 00:22:39.309 because counting votes is what Jeffries' job 00:22:39.309 --> 00:22:41.950 is. And they said, OK, how many people let's 00:22:41.950 --> 00:22:44.369 all right, let's just make sure we have some 00:22:44.369 --> 00:22:46.410 Republicans not showing up, too. But all right, 00:22:46.430 --> 00:22:47.930 let's make sure we'll have roughly a dozen 00:22:47.930 --> 00:22:51.220 of us. We just won't show up. And that's it. 00:22:51.460 --> 00:22:54.000 And then the Hegseth thing will be scuttled. 00:22:54.019 --> 00:22:56.259 It'll never move forward. They moved it over. 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:58.839 It's a parliamentary procedure. It's not officially 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.599 scuttled. But what happens is it moves to committee 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:04.279 and they're running out the clock in a game 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.059 where you're running out the clock and 00:23:06.059 --> 00:23:07.900 you're going to win. So you just hold on to the 00:23:07.900 --> 00:23:10.000 ball until. But that's what they did. It goes 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.200 to committee. This session of Congress expires 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:16.630 December 31st. And then it will die there until 00:23:16.630 --> 00:23:20.549 the new Congress, if and when it's revived, if 00:23:20.549 --> 00:23:26.009 it's revived at all. So there's several, a bunch 00:23:26.009 --> 00:23:28.809 of questions here, right? at the center 00:23:28.809 --> 00:23:30.849 of it is, do Democrats want to have their own 00:23:30.849 --> 00:23:35.289 process in January? I don't think so. I actually 00:23:35.289 --> 00:23:37.849 don't think so. I don't think so. And I think. 00:23:38.009 --> 00:23:40.910 Why didn't they want this process? There's only 00:23:40.910 --> 00:23:44.230 a couple of possible explanations. One would 00:23:44.230 --> 00:23:47.910 be, we don't want to give Thomas Massie and the 00:23:47.910 --> 00:23:51.750 Republicans the ability to be seen as cleaning 00:23:51.750 --> 00:23:53.910 up their own mess by getting rid of Hegseth 00:23:53.910 --> 00:23:59.289 themselves. I don't buy that. And then the other 00:23:59.289 --> 00:24:01.849 one is, and this one I think is more to the key, 00:24:02.049 --> 00:24:06.859 more to the point. Why? They don't want 00:24:06.859 --> 00:24:10.259 a thorough impeachment proceeding because if 00:24:10.259 --> 00:24:12.759 they were, because what will happen? 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:15.420 we saw during Watergate, we've seen 00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:18.019 it in other impeachment proceedings. once 00:24:18.019 --> 00:24:20.539 the, once the subpoenas start flowing fast, thick 00:24:20.539 --> 00:24:23.529 and fast. Anything can come to light. 00:24:23.549 --> 00:24:25.650 I'll never forget watching that Watergate hearing. 00:24:26.089 --> 00:24:29.230 It's a sleepy, hot, un-air-conditioned, 00:24:29.230 --> 00:24:31.390 committee room, and everyone's sweaty, 00:24:31.470 --> 00:24:34.430 and you can see the stains under their armpits 00:24:34.430 --> 00:24:38.829 from the sweat. And at one point, this guy named 00:24:38.829 --> 00:24:41.930 Alexander Butterfield is testifying, and he

says, 00:24:42.089 --> 00:24:45.109 yeah, well, how do you know that? Oh, 00:24:45.130 --> 00:24:47.230 well, it's on the recording. And then 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:50.150 suddenly, everybody perks up. What? Recording. 00:24:50.329 --> 00:24:52.720 What recording? It's, oh, yeah, 00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:55.019 the recording system in the Oval Office. The 00:24:55.019 --> 00:24:57.980 Oval Office has a recording system? Yeah. How 00:24:57.980 --> 00:25:00.420 often is that on? Oh, it's on all the time. Wait. 00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:03.680 Everything in the Oval Office is recorded all 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.839 the time. Oh, yeah. And then you see, reporters 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.140 scram, run out the door to go to a payphone, 00:25:11.299 --> 00:25:13.920 right? And then it's everyone's shuffling 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.799 papers. holy shit. That was an unplanned, 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.089 unscripted moment, right? Yeah. That can happen. 00:25:21.230 --> 00:25:24.390 And so what's going to happen in a Hegseth 00:25:24.390 --> 00:25:27.109 impeachment? Oh, I can imagine that that would 00:25:27.109 --> 00:25:29.829 bother Democrats. it's not 00:25:29.829 --> 00:25:31.289 going to be they're worried, oh, there's 00:25:31.289 --> 00:25:33.730 even more Nazi tattoos in places of his body 00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:36.910 we haven't seen. This is going to be stuff that 00:25:36.910 --> 00:25:41.329 that implicates them, stuff where they met 00:25:41.329 --> 00:25:44.569 with the president and they were in favor of 00:25:44.569 --> 00:25:48.390 attacking Iran. And they were okay with bombing 00:25:48.390 --> 00:25:52.190 Venezuelan fishermen. And they were in on all 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:55.650 of it. I'm convinced they know they're implicated. 00:25:55.789 --> 00:25:58.009 They know that they have blood on their hands 00:25:58.009 --> 00:26:00.450 and that it could come to light. And the last 00:26:00.450 --> 00:26:02.549 thing that they want, and Hegseth has probably 00:26:02.549 --> 00:26:06.049 told them, oh, you take me out, I'm going to 00:26:06.049 --> 00:26:09.390 sing a bird. That's my take. And so the 00:26:09.390 --> 00:26:12.470 question is, if I'm right, then there will be 00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:14.950 no proceeding in January. Yeah, if you're right, 00:26:14.950 --> 00:26:17.279 they're not going to touch him. If you're right, 00:26:17.299 --> 00:26:18.700 they're not going to touch him. What do you think? 00:26:19.339 --> 00:26:22.140 If you're wrong, then they're going to take their 00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:24.799 bite in January. I wasn't sure which 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.440 one, because my thought was, okay, well, 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.180 this is interesting. Why aren't they going after 00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:31.420 Hegseth? Right? Because that's such an anomaly. 00:26:32.220 --> 00:26:35.759 But why not now? And by the way, if you were 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:40.680 worried about the Ted Rall scenario, if you're 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.650 a Democrat, if you're Jeffries, then. Do it 00:26:44.650 --> 00:26:47.369 now rather than later, because this would be 00:26:47.369 --> 00:26:49.589 a rushed impeachment job. They have to finish 00:26:49.589 --> 00:26:51.329 up by the end of the year. There's only six weeks 00:26:51.329 --> 00:26:56.130 left. So the odds of a big surprise are smaller. 00:26:57.269 --> 00:27:00.390 Right. And impeachment working are smaller. Right. 00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:02.509 Because Democrats are going to have the House. 00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:04.049 Although remember, we were talking just last 00:27:04.049 --> 00:27:06.730 week about how there was the votes were 00:27:06.730 --> 00:27:09.769 there just to impeach Hegseth by Friday 00:27:09.769 --> 00:27:13.650 of this week. Yes. So suddenly they all vanished. 00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:17.630 And they were. And they were. And then Hakeem 00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:20.970 Jeffries, wholly owned subsidiary of 00:27:20.970 --> 00:27:24.509 Israel Incorporated, decided that, 00:27:24.529 --> 00:27:28.470 oh, yeah, we're not going to do that. Again, 00:27:28.509 --> 00:27:31.930 brace for dissatisfaction. Yeah, this is, 00:27:32.049 --> 00:27:35.289 that's the thing, right? look, it's, 00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:38.089 okay, why will nothing fundamentally change? 00:27:38.390 --> 00:27:41.769 Because the system is still fundamentally the 00:27:41.769 --> 00:27:45.230 same. you still have the it's a two-party 00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:48.430 system it's the same two parties it's capitalism 00:27:48.430 --> 00:27:51.809 it's the same system so of course nothing's going 00:27:51.809 --> 00:27:54.410 to fundamentally change. for things to fundamentally change 00:27:54.410 --> 00:27:57.230 you need a new system and that's not what we 00:27:57.230 --> 00:28:00.970 have. all you had was an election and 00:28:00.970 --> 00:28:02.869 it's people are oh 00:28:02.869 --> 00:28:04.730 the New York Times today was well 00:28:04.730 --> 00:28:07.029 analysts are trying to figure out is this a dramatic 00:28:07.029 --> 00:28:11.299 political realignment Or is this just a lot of 00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:13.660 people furious at Donald Trump? I'm, duh. 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:20.259 No, I agree with you. The system has influences, 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.259 meaning there are incentives built into it. And 00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:25.500 the expectation is that you're electing people 00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:27.980 who are somehow going to buck the incentives 00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:31.259 that are built into the system, as if Democrats 00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:32.980 are going to somehow do something radically different 00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:34.859 than what they did the first time around that 00:28:34.859 --> 00:28:37.109 got them taken out of office. And it's, 00:28:37.130 --> 00:28:41.029 why do you believe that? the system is sloshing 00:28:41.029 --> 00:28:42.750 or the people sloshing back and forth between

00:28:42.750 --> 00:28:44.769 the two political parties because there are only 00:28:44.769 --> 00:28:47.609 two political parties. And so it's Democrats 00:28:47.609 --> 00:28:50.329 get put back in office with the full assurance 00:28:50.329 --> 00:28:53.170 that when Republicans mess it up, they'll get 00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:55.369 put back in office again. I get that any individual 00:28:55.369 --> 00:28:56.990 race, the person wants to win that individual 00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.710 race, but they're not really doing anything dramatically 00:28:59.710 --> 00:29:02.430 different. That would be what they would consider 00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:03.730 to be a political realignment. it's not 00:29:03.730 --> 00:29:05.670 Dixiecrats turning into the current woke 00:29:05.670 --> 00:29:09.950 Democrats. It's not that. It's just you putting 00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:11.410 Democrats back in office because you got pissed 00:29:11.410 --> 00:29:13.650 off at Trump. Well, things fundamentally change 00:29:13.650 --> 00:29:16.150 in this country. I don't want to say 00:29:16.150 --> 00:29:17.630 they never change. women can 00:29:17.630 --> 00:29:20.970 vote now. Blacks can vote now. But that only 00:29:20.970 --> 00:29:25.089 happens when both parties decide, what, 00:29:25.170 --> 00:29:27.430 we're willing to make this shift, right? Well, 00:29:27.450 --> 00:29:30.349 right now, both parties are war parties. They're 00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:34.269 both warmongering fucks who want to kill the 00:29:34.269 --> 00:29:37.009 people in Yemen and Venezuela and all that, and 00:29:37.009 --> 00:29:41.309 Cuba. And so the thing is, that's the thing, 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:44.509 right? if, do you really think 00:29:44.509 --> 00:29:47.750 there'd be a reason not to proceed with this 00:29:47.750 --> 00:29:51.019 impeachment against Hegseth? If Hegseth didn't 00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:55.210 have receipts that make Democrats look bad. See, 00:29:55.289 --> 00:29:57.950 I don't know their incentives. No, we 00:29:57.950 --> 00:29:59.769 don't. We're forced to speculate. That's why 00:29:59.769 --> 00:30:01.150 we're here. Yeah, if you take it on this very 00:30:01.150 --> 00:30:03.089 surface level, you would think that they would, 00:30:03.150 --> 00:30:05.569 it's, well, they would obviously want Hegseth. 00:30:05.849 --> 00:30:07.950 It gets you closer to Trump, right? Especially 00:30:07.950 --> 00:30:09.150 if you're trying to have some kind of impeachment 00:30:09.150 --> 00:30:11.630 hearing on Trump later on. If you can eat through 00:30:11.630 --> 00:30:13.150 his people, kind of eating through Nixon's 00:30:13.150 --> 00:30:15.230 people, well, you're better off doing so. And 00:30:15.230 --> 00:30:18.529 it helps you lay out your case. And it also gets 00:30:18.529 --> 00:30:20.690 you also, let's face it, the American people 00:30:20.690 --> 00:30:23.690 are vengeful. And there's certain figures in 00:30:23.690 --> 00:30:26.730 the administration that are

really reviled more 00:30:26.730 --> 00:30:29.890 than others. Miller just got a promotion. 00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:33.410 He's one of them. But certainly, Hegseth is way 00:30:33.410 --> 00:30:36.430 up there. He's a public face of the administration. 00:30:36.930 --> 00:30:40.809 He's a douche. People, Democrats hate him. If 00:30:40.809 --> 00:30:44.170 you talk to the average Democrat who turned out 00:30:44.170 --> 00:30:47.089 here and voted straight D on their ballot, and 00:30:47.089 --> 00:30:48.589 you ask them, do you want Hegseth impeached? 00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:52.170 They'd say, fuck yeah. So, why would you 00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:55.849 not get that scalp if you can get it? See, that's 00:30:55.849 --> 00:30:57.980 what I mean. I don't know. I don't know 00:30:57.980 --> 00:31:00.180 what's built into their minds. It's chess, 00:31:00.380 --> 00:31:02.559 right? oh, hey, that right there 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:04.839 is a nice, tasty bishop, and I want it. They 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:06.839 got the call from Tel Aviv. let's be 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.059 honest here. That's what happened. Hegseth is 00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:13.720 a Zionist. He has said on numerous occasions 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:17.819 that the United States would not survive without 00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:20.920 Israel, that Israel is a vital strategic interest 00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.079 to the United States, that we will – he's the 00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.460 white Hakeem Jeffries. Let's just be honest here. 00:31:26.900 --> 00:31:29.180 If Hegseth stepped down, do you think they would 00:31:29.180 --> 00:31:31.619 put somebody in who wasn't a Zionist? No, of 00:31:31.619 --> 00:31:35.000 course not. That's what I'm saying. People say 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.660 that AIPAC has lost all of its power. No, it 00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:42.000 hasn't. They're rebranded. That's it. What does 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.779 it matter if you give it to Hegseth if you're 00:31:43.779 --> 00:31:45.500 going to put in a Zionist? Meaning if Democrats, 00:31:45.779 --> 00:31:48.000 if the issue is, well, they're not taking him 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.450 out because he's a Zionist. well you get another 00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:52.490 Zionist put back into position this is the 00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:55.349 Israel thing right maybe less maybe less Zionist 00:31:55.349 --> 00:31:57.730 I think the whole thing is if 00:31:57.730 --> 00:32:00.589 you're if the three of us were 00:32:00.589 --> 00:32:03.650 on the on AIPAC controlling board somehow in some 00:32:03.650 --> 00:32:06.490 weird alternate universe where Spock has a beard 00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:10.589 we are gonna be what would we do we're 00:32:10.589 --> 00:32:13.410 in stonewall mode we know that the flood 00:32:13.410 --> 00:32:16.150 waters are rising, the ship is going 00:32:16.150 --> 00:32:18.609 down, whatever metaphor you want to use. And 00:32:18.609 --> 00:32:20.950 so you're not making gains. What you're trying 00:32:20.950 --> 00:32:24.009 to do is, protect everything you've got and 00:32:24.009 --> 00:32:27.009 protect all your allies the best you can. And 00:32:27.009 --> 00:32:28.809 so one of the messages you would do is, 00:32:28.849 --> 00:32:32.710 oh, he's our butt boy in Washington. So we've 00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:34.730 got, we got, if we can save him, we've got to. 00:32:34.910 --> 00:32:37.150 And it's, just that's sort of the, that's 00:32:37.150 --> 00:32:39.490 just a policy thing. the word has to be 00:32:39.490 --> 00:32:42.069 , if you climb aboard, the AIPAC 00:32:42.069 --> 00:32:46.259 crime family, we'll, I have a question. 00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:48.940 Do y'all think it could be because of everyone 00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:52.480 in Congress? both chambers. The only 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.380 real revolutionary, if you want to use that word, 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.259 is Thomas Massie. He's on his way out. Would 00:32:57.259 --> 00:33:01.099 the Democrats blow this up because they did not 00:33:01.099 --> 00:33:04.279 want to give him a victory and then answer to 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.279 their constituents about why it's an outgoing, 00:33:07.460 --> 00:33:10.079 sunsetting Republican as opposed to their political 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.410 party? Maybe. I thought about that, too. It's 00:33:13.410 --> 00:33:17.390 possible. Basically, we don't want you to take 00:33:17.390 --> 00:33:20.069 them. We want to take them. That's so we want 00:33:20.069 --> 00:33:23.009 to snatch. Not you. Yeah, we want that scalp 00:33:23.009 --> 00:33:27.990 on our wall, not yours. Basically, we don't want 00:33:27.990 --> 00:33:30.369 a Republican cleaning up after their mess. We 00:33:30.369 --> 00:33:36.809 want to do it. That's the most. Look, if it 00:33:36.809 --> 00:33:38.809 turns out that they proceed in the new year, 00:33:38.930 --> 00:33:41.069 then we'll know that that's what. By the way, 00:33:41.089 --> 00:33:42.869 they shouldn't have said that. she should have 00:33:42.869 --> 00:33:45.049 just said look that's why I'm suspicious 00:33:45.049 --> 00:33:47.289 they didn't say anything they could have said 00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:49.750 we just don't trust the Republicans to do a good 00:33:49.750 --> 00:33:51.910 job here or they could have said there's 00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:54.710 just not enough time yeah and that would 00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.089 be also that would be a pretty good argument 00:33:57.089 --> 00:34:00.089 the holidays are coming up yeah we 00:34:00.089 --> 00:34:02.029 there's probably only three weeks of congressional 00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:05.369 session left in the year right so they 00:34:05.369 --> 00:34:07.190 need to lay out their case and whatever because 00:34:07.190 --> 00:34:08.849 from my point of view whatever case they lay 00:34:08.849 --> 00:34:11.809 out against Hegseth is a case against Trump. That's 00:34:11.809 --> 00:34:13.409 the biggest, it's the biggest cabinet

department. 00:34:13.650 --> 00:34:15.849 this is complicated stuff. They're impeaching 00:34:15.849 --> 00:34:18.849 him over multiple wars. there's going 00:34:18.849 --> 00:34:20.909 to be a lot of documents that are going to need 00:34:20.909 --> 00:34:23.369 to be, a lot of people need to be deposed. 00:34:23.369 --> 00:34:26.590 this is, honestly, objectively, there isn't 00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:28.309 enough time, really. And they should have said 00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:31.050 that. Because what her answer is, well, maybe 00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:34.530 some people are sick. she said it twice. 00:34:35.110 --> 00:34:38.010 It's, are you serious right now? meaning 00:34:38.010 --> 00:34:41.239 you are trying to. She's bad at lying, man. She's 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.739 terrible at it. You are a Democrat. You're trying 00:34:43.739 --> 00:34:47.230 to project to the public. We hear you. Right. 00:34:47.409 --> 00:34:48.949 That's what you're trying to project to the public. 00:34:49.070 --> 00:34:52.170 We hear you. And one of the things that the public 00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:54.630 wants is transparency. They want transparency 00:34:54.630 --> 00:34:56.630 and they want to see that you're doing shit. 00:34:57.210 --> 00:34:59.130 And stuff that they put you in office 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.590 for. And the fact that what you've been put in 00:35:01.590 --> 00:35:04.070 is a repudiation of Trump. Hey, except it's a 00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.619 head that you can take. Just say so. you don't 00:35:06.619 --> 00:35:08.119 have to be dishonest about and call some kind 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.460 of random illness just say we need more time 00:35:10.460 --> 00:35:14.300 we need to build a case would you be honest right 00:35:14.300 --> 00:35:16.780 right as opposed to well we're just trying to 00:35:16.780 --> 00:35:19.119 do this overnight we're all sick with Hegseth 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.679 19 yeah yeah no yeah so I don't know you might 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.719 be right because otherwise why not just 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.300 say mini what is that I suspect 60 40. well 00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:32.760 I'll go 70 30 on this I think in the new year 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.659 they're gonna say oh that Hegseth thing 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.420 Listen, we're looking forward, not backwards. 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.019 We've got a lot of stuff to do for the American 00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:45.880 people. Because we can't really chew gum and 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.920 walk at the same time. So we're going to focus 00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.659 on affordability. And we'll just let little Petey 00:35:51.659 --> 00:35:55.239 do his not gay stuff that he does in his not 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.860 gay way. We'll let him do that. I think that's 00:35:57.860 --> 00:36:00.360 what we're going to see. There was another group 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.460 of Congress members, and they asked about who 00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:04.340 they were going to put in the office. And they 00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:07.119 were, yeah, we need to deal with data centers. 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:08.940 We need to deal with blah, blah, blah. And I'm 00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:12.190 , dude, you guys will miss it. By the way, 00:36:12.190 --> 00:36:14.710 also, after Donald Trump, who basically does 00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:17.730 50 million crazy things a day, don't tell me, 00:36:17.730 --> 00:36:20.469 oh, we can't do this and that. Exactly. 00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:23.030 No one wants to hear that. Exactly. Trump was 00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:24.610 all over the place. That's the beauty of Trump, 00:36:24.690 --> 00:36:28.269 by the way. That's true. He proved that. He proved 00:36:28.269 --> 00:36:31.170 it. Obama was so scared that, oh, I can't be 00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:32.829 angry. I can't do this stuff because I don't 00:36:32.829 --> 00:36:34.710 want to be the angry Black man. I'm corralled 00:36:34.710 --> 00:36:37.630 in the office. But as you notice, the office 00:36:37.630 --> 00:36:39.989 conforms. Oh, and we can't legalize abortion 00:36:39.989 --> 00:36:43.530 and do health care. Yeah. Actually, you could. 00:36:43.929 --> 00:36:45.949 People get used to the personality in that office, 00:36:46.090 --> 00:36:48.650 just they got used to Trump. It's also just 00:36:48.650 --> 00:36:51.550 a lie that the federal government can't do 50 00:36:51.550 --> 00:36:53.920 things a day. It can't. I don't know who that 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.960 representative was, but from one white T-shirt 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.960 bro to another, don't do that. If you're going 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.400 to wear your white T-shirt, come out swinging. 00:37:02.690 --> 00:37:05.230 Just come out and fight. I wish I had a white 00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:06.730 beat on. He should have had a white beat on. 00:37:06.849 --> 00:37:09.789 I don't know how I feel about V-neck shirts. 00:37:10.530 --> 00:37:12.929 I've gone off and on with them. Generally, I'm 00:37:12.929 --> 00:37:17.829 kind of opposed to them. I don't care. I'm serious. 00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:19.150 If you're going to wear the white T-shirt, you 00:37:19.150 --> 00:37:20.949 have to wear a V-neck. If you're going to wear 00:37:20.949 --> 00:37:22.510 the white T-shirt, you've got to be ready to 00:37:22.510 --> 00:37:26.969 fight. well he's a man who it's one of 00:37:26.969 --> 00:37:29.150 those things he's that guy all 00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:31.929 guys have that friend you're oh you're 00:37:31.929 --> 00:37:34.730 a you're a good guy you're a good soul I 00:37:34.730 --> 00:37:38.429 like you but you're a bunny right you don't know 00:37:38.429 --> 00:37:40.769 how the world works and you're gonna be doing 00:37:40.769 --> 00:37:42.650 you're gonna you're the kind of guy 00:37:42.650 --> 00:37:44.789 when the cop pulls you over and says do you know 00:37:44.789 --> 00:37:47.150 why I pulled you over it'd be yeah I was 00:37:47.150 -->

00:37:53.090 going 75 right as opposed to no officer I have 00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:55.909 no idea yeah I don't talk to cops I don't talk 00:37:55.909 --> 00:37:57.989 to the cops get out yeah yeah exactly 00:37:57.989 --> 00:38:01.670 no I get you I think what it is it's an acclimation 00:38:01.670 --> 00:38:04.820 process. When you jump into the water, it's 00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:06.559 very cold and you have that shock. But after 00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.360 a while, you can use it. It's kind of AOC. 00:38:08.460 --> 00:38:10.219 When AOC first got in the office where she was 00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:12.880 , we got a primary, some folks. Do you remember 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.320 that? she was very hardcore. And then after 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.599 a while. Yeah, she was on Team David Hogg. He 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:18.940 was always talking. And then after a while, 00:38:18.940 --> 00:38:24.199 Mama Bear, Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, it's exactly 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.679 the same. They just get ground into the folder. 00:38:28.699 --> 00:38:32.659 There is a great obscure play. I don't think 00:38:32.659 --> 00:38:35.599 it was ever printed in English by Sartre called 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.880 L'Engrenage, which sort of basically means 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.260 another day, another dollar. Right. And basically, 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.820 I really wish it was performed. I tried to get 00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:46.579 the rights to turn it into a graphic novel. But 00:38:46.579 --> 00:38:49.400 Sartre's estate is totally fucked up and run 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.719 by his crazy former lover slash adopted daughter. 00:38:53.940 --> 00:38:55.940 Anyway, the point is who's a fucking lunatic. 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.760 Anyway, the point is L'Engrenage concerns a 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.420 revolution in the world's second largest oil 00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:03.679 producing state, which at the time the play was 00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:07.659 written was Iraq. And basically it's a former 00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:11.079 colonial country and there was a big revolution. 00:39:11.690 --> 00:39:13.809 And the revolution was caused by the fact that 00:39:13.809 --> 00:39:15.610 people lived in poverty, even though they lived 00:39:15.610 --> 00:39:18.949 in an oil rich country, because the former colonial 00:39:18.949 --> 00:39:22.349 power had concessions, kind of what 00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:25.210 we just did to Venezuela and looted the country. 00:39:25.309 --> 00:39:28.849 So there was a revolution. So the play opens 00:39:28.849 --> 00:39:31.989 with the, so basically with a show trial 00:39:31.989 --> 00:39:36.119 of the deposed president. And they say, 00:39:36.219 --> 00:39:39.519 oh, this guy, he was, he sold us out. 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.000 And the president says, well, here's what happened. 00:39:42.139 --> 00:39:45.099 When after the revolution last time, 00:39:45.099 --> 00:39:47.760 I wanted to get rid of these concessions. And 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:49.699 the ambassador from the former colonial power 00:39:49.699 --> 00:39:53.019 came to visit me. And he said, listen, you have 00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:55.500 a very small country. I have a very rich country. 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.480 My troops are massed on your border. You really 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.159 don't want to change our present arrangement. 00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:04.059 Otherwise, your country will be overrun. and 00:40:04.059 --> 00:40:07.400 so he's that's what happened so they don't 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.960 believe his story they execute him and then the 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.679 new the prosecutor who led the revolution in 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.880 the at the show trial it goes to become 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.780 the new president he moves into the to the to 00:40:19.780 --> 00:40:22.699 the office and he gets a visitor and it's that 00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:25.639 same ambassador and it's the last scene and you 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.699 know exactly how this goes because it's a Sartre 00:40:27.699 --> 00:40:30.619 play and and he sits down and he says your country 00:40:30.619 --> 00:40:33.030 congratulations. Your country is a very small 00:40:33.030 --> 00:40:35.710 country. My country is a very big country. And 00:40:35.710 --> 00:40:39.570 so it goes over and over. And that's exactly 00:40:39.570 --> 00:40:44.230 what you just described with AOC and Mama Bear 00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:51.260 and with White T-Shirt Man and Hakeem Jeffries. 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.320 Hakeem Jeffries might not have any balls to stand 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.179 up to Israel, but he's sure going to push around 00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:00.179 his new members. Yeah, he can push around White 00:41:00.179 --> 00:41:06.539 T-Shirt Man. That's so funny to me. Yeah, that 00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:10.159 influence that basically you will knuckle under 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.199 to me. It's, I know I heard everything that 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.079 you said during the campaign. Congratulations. 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.699 You said bad things about me. That's okay. You're 00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:21.000 running in the race. Right. But you will kneel. 00:41:21.590 --> 00:41:25.210 You will. Yeah, you will assume the position. 00:41:25.730 --> 00:41:31.219 Yes. imagine, by the way. What if he 00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:33.380 had recorded? he'd rolled millennial 00:41:33.380 --> 00:41:37.119 style and he had secretly recorded the conversation 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.159 with the powers that be. That would have been 00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.920 great. And released that? Great. Oh, scandal. 00:41:43.659 --> 00:41:45.539 They probably got him under the Espionage Act 00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:47.079 if he had done that, though. think about 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.800 it. No, the guy did that to Steny Hoyer, if you 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.139 remember. When Steny Hoyer went to the guy, it

00:41:53.139 --> 00:41:55.780 was a Democrat in, I think, Wisconsin. And Democrats 00:41:55.780 --> 00:41:57.699 didn't want the guy to run. and Steny Hoyer 00:41:57.699 --> 00:41:59.360 you went to the guy and basically told him get 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:00.800 out the race you're not going to get our support 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.559 he recorded the entirety of the conversation 00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.019 and of course they were pissed off I can't 00:42:05.019 --> 00:42:07.699 believe he's recording our conversations it's 00:42:07.699 --> 00:42:09.360 dude you're wrestling the guy under how 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.099 how are you going to tell the guy to get out 00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:13.500 the race it's one thing if you beat the guy yeah 00:42:13.500 --> 00:42:15.380 it's another thing for you trying to muscle a 00:42:15.380 --> 00:42:17.900 guy out of the race yeah and he doesn't trust 00:42:17.900 --> 00:42:20.280 you by the way in many states it's totally 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.880 legal one party actually it's legal to 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.860 record a conversation that you're a party to 00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:27.519 it's just that in some states you can't use it 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.679 for example in a court in a court proceedings 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.059 without the consent of the other person who's 00:42:34.059 --> 00:42:37.059 recorded but for example in my LA Times case 00:42:37.059 --> 00:42:40.880 there was well I'll just say it I have not 00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.000 said it in a public forum before the one 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.500 of the editors at the LA Times who basically 00:42:47.500 --> 00:42:52.480 knew that he had published lies about me, a friend 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.440 of mine called him up and recorded the conversation 00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.179 and said, you and I are both good friends. You 00:43:00.179 --> 00:43:01.780 and I both know Ted Rall didn't do what you're 00:43:01.780 --> 00:43:04.260 saying. It's, yeah, I know. It's, oh, 00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:08.440 are you going to retract? No, we're not going 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.179 to be able to do that. Why not? Well, this comes 00:43:11.179 --> 00:43:13.119 from above my pay grade. I don't have a choice. 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.599 But you know Ted Rall didn't do that. It's going 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.460 to destroy his career. Yeah, it's too bad. You 00:43:18.460 --> 00:43:21.739 always have a choice. Just to be clear, you're 00:43:21.739 --> 00:43:25.199 saying that one person in the company in the 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.300 LA Times lied for management. Well, multiple 00:43:29.300 --> 00:43:34.780 people lied for management, including the ombudsman 00:43:34.780 --> 00:43:38.639 of all people. Yeah, it came from the publisher. 00:43:38.739 --> 00:43:40.360 So they were all scared of losing their jobs 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:42.079 because they're in journalism, right? Nobody 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.099 in journalism can ever find another job if they 00:43:44.099 --> 00:43:46.980 lose their job. So that's what happened. And 00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:50.480 so the point here is not to derail the conversation 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.780 to the LA Times. The point is that the person 00:43:52.780 --> 00:43:55.880 who called my editor in California was in New 00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.699 York at the time, which is a one-party consent 00:43:58.699 --> 00:44:05.000 state. So if a New Yorker calls, let's say, a 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.119 Washingtonian and says, and records 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:14.199 the call. So we had the call. So in court, we 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.139 could not introduce it as evidence because the 00:44:17.139 --> 00:44:20.179 editor, who we will call Nick Goldberg, because 00:44:20.179 --> 00:44:22.340 his name is Nick Goldberg, didn't give consent. 00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:26.000 I know, but it's exculpatory. They're lying. 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.320 Right. So the way, if I'd ever gotten my day 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:33.599 in court, the real actual trial, what would have 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:35.840 happened is we would have had to put Nick Goldberg 00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.119 on the stand. And then if he told the truth about 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.860 everything, then we wouldn't have been able to 00:44:40.860 --> 00:44:42.800 use the recording. But let's say we asked him 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.519 about it and said, so did you come to talk to 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:51.000 this person? Yes. What did you say? And if he 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.260 misrepresented that conversation at any point 00:44:53.260 --> 00:44:56.320 and he perjured himself, boom, your honor, chambers. 00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.679 And then there would have been a private conference 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.019 in chambers outside of the view of the jury. 00:45:01.820 --> 00:45:04.480 And then my lawyer would have brought the recording 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.670 in and said, your honor. the we have evidence 00:45:07.670 --> 00:45:10.230 that this person perjured himself and so we could 00:45:10.230 --> 00:45:12.969 that recording under California law could have 00:45:12.969 --> 00:45:15.969 been used to impeach that person's testimony 00:45:15.969 --> 00:45:19.610 and at that point only but if he told the truth 00:45:19.610 --> 00:45:21.750 it would not be so that's how that works yeah 00:45:21.750 --> 00:45:24.150 well if he told the truth you wouldn't have needed 00:45:24.150 --> 00:45:26.670 it right if he told the truth yeah it would not 00:45:26.670 --> 00:45:28.969 matter so either way it's a gotcha no matter 00:45:28.969 --> 00:45:31.510 what right god man I remember this happened 00:45:31.510 --> 00:45:33.309 on Fault Lines because Fault Lines we 00:45:33.309 --> 00:45:37.179 had six different hosts of the show 00:45:37.179 --> 00:45:38.739 when I was going to think we're just going through 00:45:38.739 --> 00:45:41.360 hosts one

of the hosts I'm not going to say who 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:45.639 her name is got into this pissing match with 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:51.000 Mindia and basically that's not a good idea right 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.599 she goes and has a conversation with him personally 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.719 she comes out I drive her home and she is 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.820 he said and goes into this long thing claiming 00:46:01.820 --> 00:46:05.019 that Mindia said something and then I was 00:46:05.260 --> 00:46:08.300 And she says, I have a tape. I was, really? 00:46:08.420 --> 00:46:09.820 Now, at this point, I don't believe her, right? 00:46:09.860 --> 00:46:11.420 I think she's lying through her teeth. You have 00:46:11.420 --> 00:46:13.699 a tape? Yes, but I'm not going to show the tape. 00:46:13.820 --> 00:46:15.880 And I would never. And if you say that I got 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.519 the tape, I would disavow that I had the tape. 00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:20.539 It's, OK, are you being serious right now? 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.619 imagine the ridiculousness of saying somebody 00:46:24.619 --> 00:46:27.579 said something to me. I got them on tape saying 00:46:27.579 --> 00:46:30.400 it, but I'm never going to show the tape. And 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.809 she didn't want to play it for you. Right. And 00:46:33.809 --> 00:46:35.610 I don't even want to play it for you, but trust 00:46:35.610 --> 00:46:37.690 me, I got the tape. Well, for one, she's alive. 00:46:38.190 --> 00:46:41.789 Yeah. She's just flat alive. Yeah. It didn't 00:46:41.789 --> 00:46:44.329 even sound right, which is why it's, really? 00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:49.070 Yeah. I have that recording on my Dropbox in 00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:52.130 the cloud so I can get it anytime I want. But 00:46:52.130 --> 00:46:54.030 if you ask me for it, I'm going to say I don't 00:46:54.030 --> 00:46:56.690 have it. I'm going to disavow knowledge of it. 00:46:56.869 --> 00:46:59.630 Right. It's, okay. One thing, Ted, seriously, 00:46:59.769 --> 00:47:01.829 I'm sorry that happened to you because those 00:47:01.829 --> 00:47:03.590 people that you knew, those so-called friends, 00:47:03.889 --> 00:47:06.469 they had a choice. They did. They had a choice. 00:47:07.190 --> 00:47:08.710 Yeah, they had a choice. I didn't have to allow 00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:12.710 you. Doing the right thing more often than not 00:47:12.710 --> 00:47:14.570 is actually painful, especially if you live in 00:47:14.570 --> 00:47:16.969 a corrupt society what ours is. If that 00:47:16.969 --> 00:47:18.829 means that you have to stand on top of a pyre 00:47:18.829 --> 00:47:22.309 and set it on fire, so be it. They had a choice. 00:47:22.590 --> 00:47:27.630 I know. I am sorry that they were such cowards 00:47:28.019 --> 00:47:30.420 that they did not stand with you I did 00:47:30.420 --> 00:47:33.059 not need them to necessarily do the right thing 00:47:33.059 --> 00:47:35.639 but if they had refrained from doing the wrong 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.940 thing they could have all just told the powers 00:47:38.940 --> 00:47:41.860 that be you want to Ted Rall you can do that but 00:47:41.860 --> 00:47:43.559 I'm not having anything to do with it yeah just 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.559 stay out of it if the strongest do it yourself 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.639 you can take this thing out of it then that's 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:50.420 the strongest position that's all that would 00:47:50.420 --> 00:47:53.840 have worked yeah but the line makes it it's 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:58.980 it's taken into action. You're being proactive. 00:47:59.059 --> 00:48:02.000 The publisher could have done this to me himself, 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.679 but then it would have been a bigger national 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:06.960 story, even more. It was already a big national 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.739 story. But if Austin Beutner had been on the 00:48:10.739 --> 00:48:13.260 record for doing it himself and couldn't get 00:48:13.260 --> 00:48:16.500 anyone to do it for him, then what I 00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:18.219 mean? Then it's he didn't have the institutional 00:48:18.219 --> 00:48:21.000 cover. Well, that's the part. It's the institutional 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.719 cover that makes it worse because it makes it 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.039 look, well, his own co-workers said this. 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.559 yeah yeah totally makes it work yeah it 00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.059 gave me such an uphill climb and if I didn't 00:48:32.059 --> 00:48:34.719 have evidence that recording 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.900 when I brought that to my prospective 00:48:36.900 --> 00:48:41.820 lawyers they were oh because lawyers look 00:48:41.820 --> 00:48:43.780 lawyers often represent you when they don't think 00:48:43.780 --> 00:48:46.019 you're telling the truth but they prefer it when 00:48:46.019 --> 00:48:49.320 you're telling the truth yeah yeah it's 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.900 a it's an easier case to justify if you're telling 00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:54.710 the truth. No, that sucks. And you start thinking 00:48:54.710 --> 00:48:56.889 about all the cases where people are, well, 00:48:57.050 --> 00:49:01.760 he was this type of employee. Yeah. God, 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.599 man, that sucks. Yeah. And then, of course, and 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:06.780 then also later, for example, this guy, 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.039 Nick Goldberg, he then put out a book called 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.239 about speaking truth to power. I was, are 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:14.940 you fucking serious? After fucking you over? 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.300 Yeah. Yeah. Little fucking weasel. He wrote a 00:49:19.300 --> 00:49:23.519 book about speaking truth to power. Yeah. After 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:29.739 line. After slurbling the billionaire publishers. 00:49:29.739 --> 00:49:31.980 This is Cuomo, right? Well, Cuomo's writing 00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:34.219 a book about COVID.

Yeah. It's all those 00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:36.500 grandmas that he murdered or killed. I shouldn't 00:49:36.500 --> 00:49:37.900 have killed that murderer. All those grandmas 00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:39.659 he killed because of his COVID policies in New 00:49:39.659 --> 00:49:41.539 York. And he then had the temerity to write a 00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:44.340 book about how he got it right. My mom was that 00:49:44.340 --> 00:49:47.260 age. If she was in New York, in the Bronx, in 00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:49.219 some nursing home, that could have been her sent 00:49:49.219 --> 00:49:52.909 to one of those fucking places. Yeah. Jesus. 00:49:52.909 --> 00:49:56.010 Yeah, I didn't know that sucks. I'm sorry. Yeah, 00:49:56.010 --> 00:50:02.090 it's crazy. What I hope is, I really hope someday, 00:50:02.269 --> 00:50:05.530 I feel it's a story that's best told through 00:50:05.530 --> 00:50:07.949 a documentary. If a documentarian ever decided 00:50:07.949 --> 00:50:10.309 to take an interest in it, it would be a great 00:50:10.309 --> 00:50:12.489 documentary because it's not really about me. 00:50:12.690 --> 00:50:15.449 It's about using me to tell the story about the 00:50:15.449 --> 00:50:18.170 collapse of print media and the corruption of 00:50:18.170 --> 00:50:21.630 politics and media. It's a cool story to tell. 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:23.739 right I have the Dave Chappelle thing in my 00:50:23.739 --> 00:50:26.099 head do you I don't know if you remember the 00:50:26.099 --> 00:50:29.380 one with the white Clinton and they told it as 00:50:29.380 --> 00:50:34.300 a documentary and it's they didn't know 00:50:34.300 --> 00:50:35.940 that he was black because he always wore a hood 00:50:35.940 --> 00:50:38.739 he never but he was very racist towards 00:50:38.739 --> 00:50:41.300 other blacks and he was married to a white 00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:44.619 woman the key point is at the end of it when 00:50:44.619 --> 00:50:47.829 he finds out that he's black and he finally his 00:50:47.829 --> 00:50:50.329 wife is white he divorces his wife because he 00:50:50.329 --> 00:50:55.989 calls her a lover oh it's so good oh it's so 00:50:55.989 --> 00:50:58.889 good yeah it's that it's that it's that 00:50:58.889 --> 00:51:02.550 it's cognitive it's that cognitive dissonance 00:51:02.550 --> 00:51:05.090 right when people don't even really know who 00:51:05.090 --> 00:51:08.030 they are but they did it in a documentary form 00:51:08.030 --> 00:51:09.750 they were talking and they had the 00:51:09.750 --> 00:51:14.440 British Documentary voice. That's so good. I've 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:19.199 got to check that out. It was, they're going 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.400 after Rall, and Rall is on notice because of 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.719 the blah, blah, blah. You're on notice, Rall. 00:51:24.059 --> 00:51:27.420 You're on notice, Rall. Oh, my God. So, yeah, 00:51:27.539 --> 00:51:30.159 so this is basically, look, we were all 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.159 kind of waiting to see how long it would take 00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.840 the Democrats to start sucking corporate cock 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.179 and Israeli cock. Immediately. And it took, what, 00:51:39.219 --> 00:51:46.039 minutes. Yeah, minutes. As soon as the last champagne 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.659 bottle was emptied, it was back to brunch, back 00:51:50.659 --> 00:51:55.940 to corruption, back to protecting. They literally 00:51:55.940 --> 00:51:59.360 went to protect. think about this, Jamarl. 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.800 They literally, their first major act after this 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.579 sweeping victory was to protect Pete fucking 00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:10.599 Hegseth and they and the thing is they 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:13.340 knew that they might get caught and they did 00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:16.579 get caught now it's not just us this 00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:18.559 isn't the Guardian today it's a 00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:20.960 story people who are paying attention and people 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.880 right now people are paying attention well they 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.059 know and so they already know it's all they know 00:52:27.059 --> 00:52:29.519 it's bullshit already the Democratic Party is 00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.940 they're willing to blow up their entire 00:52:31.940 --> 00:52:33.860 narrative just think about you got this 00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:38.110 incredible goodwill. So much faith. People are 00:52:38.110 --> 00:52:40.250 , oh, my God, this might 00:52:40.250 --> 00:52:42.889 be revolutionary. We might be able to do 00:52:42.889 --> 00:52:45.550 national health care next year. We can do anything. 00:52:45.829 --> 00:52:48.030 And then it's, no, no, we're going to go 00:52:48.030 --> 00:52:50.869 suck. We're going to suck Benjamin Netanyahu's 00:52:50.869 --> 00:52:53.909 dick and Pete Hegseth's to boot. That's amazing. 00:52:54.929 --> 00:52:57.349 we really let's put this in context 00:52:57.349 --> 00:53:01.170 that from the point of view of the public and 00:53:01.170 --> 00:53:03.730 they even pointed this out. Right. When the war 00:53:03.730 --> 00:53:07.099 went through lulls. Trump's approval rating and 00:53:07.099 --> 00:53:10.420 basically Republicans' chances went up. Or if 00:53:10.420 --> 00:53:12.019 it looked he was trying to negotiate, their 00:53:12.019 --> 00:53:13.760 chances went up. The moment that it looked 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.380 he was back to war, their chances went down. 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.159 Meaning they knew it was the war. You get J.D. 00:53:19.179 --> 00:53:22.260 Vance coming out directly. It was the war. All 00:53:22.260 --> 00:53:25.380 right. Who was prosecuting the war? Pete Hegseth. 00:53:25.900 --> 00:53:28.780 You get the chance to impeach. Enthusiastically, 00:53:28.780 --> 00:53:32.539 not dutifully, not, yes, sir, you want me 00:53:32.539 --> 00:53:34.530 to do this? I'll do it for you. it's 00:53:34.530 --> 00:53:36.409 my job I'll

do it it wasn't that this was 00:53:36.409 --> 00:53:40.170 gleefully lustfully happily you get the 00:53:40.170 --> 00:53:45.030 chance and you don't show up to do it yeah right 00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:48.769 they voted for this on some level because 00:53:48.769 --> 00:53:51.750 the war was one of the main things and when you 00:53:51.750 --> 00:53:53.389 get there oh by the way they did it even worse 00:53:53.389 --> 00:53:55.289 they didn't even have the balls to go and vote 00:53:55.289 --> 00:53:59.280 no right they just didn't show up. They just don't 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:00.840 show up. By the way, they always, and they're 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.880 pissed off at us lefties when we don't show up 00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:05.880 to vote for their corporate candidates. But they 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.880 don't show up to vote when they're supposed to 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.340 show up to vote, right? Were you still reporting 00:54:10.340 --> 00:54:13.579 it the Republicans protected Hegseth? Yeah, 00:54:13.659 --> 00:54:18.019 yeah. Republican scuttle. No, they didn't. I 00:54:18.019 --> 00:54:20.079 mean, they did. But Republicans have 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.360 a responsibility here, sure. But what else? Republicans 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.079 gonna Republican, right? That's what they were 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.909 doing. votes Democrats had the votes as a point 00:54:28.909 --> 00:54:32.130 this is this is my grandfather my grandfather 00:54:32.130 --> 00:54:35.309 said at the end of the war we drove the SS to 00:54:35.309 --> 00:54:37.829 the train station shook their hands and wished 00:54:37.829 --> 00:54:41.730 them a nice life and we shot the collaborators 00:54:41.730 --> 00:54:45.530 to death dogs and that's what this is these 00:54:45.530 --> 00:54:48.510 are Vichy Democrats go ahead Robby Vichy Democrats 00:54:48.510 --> 00:54:51.969 were you on the Last week with the election 00:54:51.969 --> 00:54:55.309 coverage, were you on the Jeff Dornick show when 00:54:55.309 --> 00:54:58.010 those two Republicans are going after me saying 00:54:58.010 --> 00:55:00.429 that if I went to Helena as a state representative, 00:55:00.610 --> 00:55:03.869 if I got elected, and if I went there to break 00:55:03.869 --> 00:55:05.969 things, that they would do everything they could 00:55:05.969 --> 00:55:09.570 to destroy me? No, I would have yelled at that 00:55:09.570 --> 00:55:12.489 point. I was gone because it was late as shit. 00:55:12.710 --> 00:55:14.510 Oh yeah, no, it was because, white T 00:55:14.510 --> 00:55:20.019 -shirt guy, if you're elected and your job, is 00:55:20.019 --> 00:55:23.159 not to is not to play nice and take Speaker Jeffries 00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.559 a plushie but to break things don't be surprised 00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.000 if they don't like you that's the job you signed 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.539 up for right so you're an insurgent so if the 00:55:31.539 --> 00:55:34.119 people of Flathead County Montana two years from 00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:38.409 now elect to send Robby West to Helena my job 00:55:38.409 --> 00:55:40.590 will be to break things yeah that's my whole 00:55:40.590 --> 00:55:43.719 job and you won't be popular I don't want to 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.980 be popular. Have you all read the chat? I'm not 00:55:45.980 --> 00:55:49.239 popular here. You're, I have friends. Popular 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.900 insurgent. You've got 10. You've got friends. 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.059 That's all I need. why is it, if you're 00:55:55.059 --> 00:55:58.360 going to try to run an insurgent campaign, why 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.599 is it that you think that you want the people 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.239 you're supposed to be fighting against to 00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:04.780 you? By definition, they should hate your guts 00:56:04.780 --> 00:56:06.480 and toast to your death and want to drink out 00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.599 of your skull. Yeah. That's a good thing. The 00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:15.280 Squad gets in. and just vote. I'll give you one 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.000 example. The $15 an hour minimum wage. When Joe 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.260 Biden gets in office, if you remember, he says, 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.139 well, because of COVID, these people are risking 00:56:23.139 --> 00:56:27.760 their lives. Below $15 an hour is a starvation 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.119 wage. So that's what we need to do. And his argument 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.219 basically was people who are working in fast 00:56:33.219 --> 00:56:35.219 food and these other industries, convenience 00:56:35.219 --> 00:56:38.320 stores, they have to be on the job. many other 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:40.320 people did not have to be on the job. So they're 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:41.980 taking a hit for us. The least that we can do 00:56:41.980 --> 00:56:44.599 is ensure they get $15 an hour. And then what 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.219 did you get? You get Joe Manchin, Sinema, and 00:56:47.219 --> 00:56:48.860 then on the other side, you get the Squad. Now, 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.420 the Squad had enough votes where the mechanism 00:56:51.420 --> 00:56:53.559 functioned very similar to the Senate, meaning 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:55.139 the fact that you have enough votes is almost 00:56:55.139 --> 00:56:57.460 a filibuster in the House. If you have enough 00:56:57.460 --> 00:56:59.539 votes to stop them from proceeding, then you 00:56:59.539 --> 00:57:01.300 have enough votes, right? Meaning it was going 00:57:01.300 --> 00:57:04.599 back and forth. Simple majority. Simple majority. 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.280 They would push it back to the Senate. the Senate, 00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.380 they would veto it, or not veto it, they would 00:57:10.380 --> 00:57:13.440 filibuster, go back to the House. They have the 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.119 number of votes where they don't have to allow 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.559 it, meaning

they could stop it every bit as much 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.360 as the Senate. And what did they do? After one 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:23.360 round, they fold. And they would say, well, Jamarl, 00:57:23.539 --> 00:57:26.079 the Senate has the filibuster, not the House. 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.159 But it's, but the House has enough votes 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.079 to prevent them from doing so because the vote 00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:33.239 margin was so thin. You have six of the Squad 00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.519 or whatever the hell you want to call them, which 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.079 means you had enough votes. They wouldn't do 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.019 it. They folded immediately. And then after a 00:57:39.019 --> 00:57:41.840 while, Joe Biden is, yeah, maybe we can't 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.920 get $15 now. He didn't even try. And this is 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.239 the argument against having an 80-year-old 00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:52.760 president. At 49, I'm old. That guy was the same. 00:57:52.780 --> 00:57:56.840 Look, Joe Biden was the same man in 1988 or 89, 00:57:57.019 --> 00:57:58.920 whenever it was, during the Anita Hill hearings, 00:57:59.099 --> 00:58:02.159 during the Clarence Thomas hearings, when he 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.619 basically sold out Anita Hill. it's the 00:58:05.619 --> 00:58:09.079 same thing. He's always been a pussy. Yeah. He 00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:11.900 just sold it out. he immediately folded. 00:58:12.099 --> 00:58:14.480 So it's, wait a minute. What happened to 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.920 this being a starvation wage? Yeah. Yeah. It's 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:23.079 so bad. Hey, we have comments. Okay. P. Walker, 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.139 thanks, by the way, for your patience, guys. 00:58:25.699 --> 00:58:27.980 Thanks for the five Canadian dollars. Hegseth 00:58:27.980 --> 00:58:31.239 is a perfect sacrifice for the Iran war boosters. 00:58:31.739 --> 00:58:34.360 Delay the impeachment so the Democrats can make 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:38.480 a show. and do the final blow themselves maybe 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:44.280 that is possible. also says Jeffries will 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:47.219 be speaker just as the deep state ran the Iran 00:58:47.219 --> 00:58:49.599 war down people's throats the fact that he's 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:53.320 unpopular will be will be speaker he is loyal 00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.800 and that's all the ownership class cares about 00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:58.260 by the way we don't even know if they're going 00:58:58.260 --> 00:59:02.010 to stop the war oh yeah We don't know if they're 00:59:02.010 --> 00:59:03.809 going to defend the war. I don't believe that. 00:59:03.909 --> 00:59:05.389 They're saying they're going to cut off the funding. 00:59:05.570 --> 00:59:07.090 I don't believe that. they would have 00:59:07.090 --> 00:59:09.710 to shut down the government. They would. Democrats. 00:59:09.949 --> 00:59:12.750 They've never shown any appetite for that. Right. 00:59:13.230 --> 00:59:16.389 Because they believe in government. Kilroy. Thanks 00:59:16.389 --> 00:59:20.610 for the $2. AOC wasn't a spineless whore. Should 00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:25.409 be a threat for 2028. Where she should be a threat 00:59:25.409 --> 00:59:27.530 for 2028. Got it. I don't want to call her a 00:59:27.530 --> 00:59:30.900 whore. Well, we'll just say she's a spineless. 00:59:30.980 --> 00:59:32.400 I thought you were going to call me a horse in 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.099 that one. Yeah, I agree. If the shoe fits, you 00:59:36.099 --> 00:59:40.420 can wear it. If the high heel and the fishnet 00:59:40.420 --> 00:59:46.019 stockings fit. seriously. I get in trouble 00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:49.900 with this. I just record. I get it. But here's 00:59:49.900 --> 00:59:51.320 the thing. I'm not getting in trouble with this. 00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:54.239 I understand. The time for polite politics is 00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.550 over. It's time to start calling a spade a spade. 00:59:56.650 --> 00:59:59.730 If you're a whore for AIPAC, then by God, you 00:59:59.730 --> 01:00:03.150 have every right to call you out. If your entire 01:00:03.150 --> 01:00:06.090 political career is being on your back, legs 01:00:06.090 --> 01:00:09.130 open for that sweet, sweet Israeli lucre, it 01:00:09.130 --> 01:00:12.250 is the responsibility of every single person 01:00:12.250 --> 01:00:15.130 to call them out. Listen, it's time to start 01:00:15.130 --> 01:00:17.519 breaking China. It is time to start breaking 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:19.880 China, left, right, middle, and start giving 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.360 these people a pass. I'm not giving them a pass. 01:00:22.940 --> 01:00:25.670 I know you're not. No, I know you're not. This 01:00:25.670 --> 01:00:28.030 isn't an issue. I'm just talking about the American 01:00:28.030 --> 01:00:30.349 electorate as a whole. Hey, it's a biblical word. 01:00:30.550 --> 01:00:34.809 You call it cow? Well, whore, cat. Listen, 01:00:34.909 --> 01:00:38.570 we have all kinds of words. But the point that 01:00:38.570 --> 01:00:41.530 I'm trying to make is, as long as, until 01:00:41.530 --> 01:00:43.969 the American people figure out that to solve 01:00:43.969 --> 01:00:45.590 a problem, the very first thing you have to do 01:00:45.590 --> 01:00:47.789 is identify it. And if you're too afraid, if 01:00:47.789 --> 01:00:50.530 you're so cucked, you're scared of a word, then 01:00:50.530 --> 01:00:52.769 you can forget about ever making any kind of 01:00:52.769 --> 01:00:54.920 meaningful change. I just don't want to call 01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:58.699 a I'm not talking about you I'm talking about 01:00:58.699 --> 01:01:01.219 people in general this is not me going after 01:01:01.219 --> 01:01:04.739 Jamarl. Oh okay this is Rob this is Robby talking 01:01:04.739 --> 01:01:07.429 to the American electorate it's time to sack 01:01:07.429 --> 01:01:10.630 up it's okay listen y'all have no problem

calling 01:01:10.630 --> 01:01:13.570 me a Nazi fair enough the point I'm trying to 01:01:13.570 --> 01:01:15.110 make is I don't call you enough I understand 01:01:15.110 --> 01:01:19.289 I understand again I'm talking about I'm talking 01:01:19.289 --> 01:01:21.269 about I'm talking about corporately the American 01:01:21.269 --> 01:01:24.539 people If it's okay to call people who you disagree 01:01:24.539 --> 01:01:30.420 with as deplorables, Nazis, whatever else. If 01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:33.619 someone's literally taking hundreds of thousands 01:01:33.619 --> 01:01:37.579 of dollars from a foreign lobby, I have every 01:01:37.579 --> 01:01:40.679 right. And you as an American have every right. 01:01:40.900 --> 01:01:44.340 Mike Huckabee, he's a whore. AOC, she's a whore. 01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.239 Jeffries is a whore. Trump is the biggest whore 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:52.579 of them all. It is okay. Put, name it. Name the 01:01:52.579 --> 01:01:54.960 problem then you can solve it well they're all 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.860 look here's the thing you run inside the 01:01:56.860 --> 01:01:59.480 Democratic Party you're a whore it's 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:01.820 and that's what's going to happen look 01:02:01.820 --> 01:02:05.340 all of them Said they're all the same 01:02:05.340 --> 01:02:08.139 there's once you're in there it's the 01:02:08.139 --> 01:02:11.739 Borg they that you will be assimilated resistance 01:02:11.739 --> 01:02:15.099 is futile you have to be on the outside look 01:02:15.099 --> 01:02:18.719 at Bernie all of them the the 01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:22.889 only way Let's just say, I don't 01:02:22.889 --> 01:02:24.869 know, let's say you and I, let's say this show 01:02:24.869 --> 01:02:27.349 got offered, oh, we're going 01:02:27.349 --> 01:02:30.510 to be sponsored by, what's that, Center 01:02:30.510 --> 01:02:33.130 for American Progress, right? Democratic Front 01:02:33.130 --> 01:02:35.769 Organization, think tank in Washington, used 01:02:35.769 --> 01:02:38.409 to be somewhat progressive, not anymore. Wait, 01:02:38.429 --> 01:02:40.389 Center for Political, oh, Center for American 01:02:40.389 --> 01:02:41.590 Progress, you're right, you're right. Yeah, it 01:02:41.590 --> 01:02:43.530 used to be a little progressive, sort of, but 01:02:43.530 --> 01:02:47.230 it's just. Yeah, yeah, you're a tandem. And so, 01:02:47.269 --> 01:02:49.170 imagine if they were, oh, 01:02:49.190 --> 01:02:52.010 hey, Ted, Jamarl, we know you guys could use the 01:02:52.010 --> 01:02:54.469 support. We love your show. We'll sponsor you. 01:02:54.530 --> 01:02:58.369 We'll pay you $300,000 a year. That's very, 01:02:58.630 --> 01:03:02.269 very, very tempting. And we could really use 01:03:02.269 --> 01:03:05.130 the money. But, if we take it, it's 01:03:05.130 --> 01:03:07.369 not going to be the same show. And we're not 01:03:07.369 --> 01:03:09.030 going to be the same people. And we won't be 01:03:09.030 --> 01:03:12.269 allowed

to express. Or if we do continue to express 01:03:12.269 --> 01:03:15.449 ourselves honestly. They're going to cut us off 01:03:15.449 --> 01:03:18.190 and fire us. That's just how it is. And 01:03:18.190 --> 01:03:19.309 they're going to take it at a point where we're 01:03:19.309 --> 01:03:22.969 dependent upon it. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. 01:03:23.570 --> 01:03:25.769 Didn't you tell me, wasn't it you who told me 01:03:25.769 --> 01:03:28.809 you knew Rachel Maddow when you were on 01:03:28.809 --> 01:03:31.349 MSNBC, they're not allowed to criticize. Yeah. 01:03:31.349 --> 01:03:34.269 So, so yeah, that's two stories, right? So I 01:03:34.269 --> 01:03:37.590 was on Air America as a substitute host a lot. 01:03:38.210 --> 01:03:40.730 I was hanging out with Chuck D and all those 01:03:40.730 --> 01:03:46.019 guys. Back in the day and and Rachel had a she 01:03:46.019 --> 01:03:49.000 co-hosted a morning show on Air America and 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.780 I was a substitute host and we got to know each 01:03:51.780 --> 01:03:53.760 other. Right. And she was she played 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:56.860 a progressive on the radio. She did. And she 01:03:56.860 --> 01:04:00.159 and she moved to the right as she moved into 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:04.079 television. And at one point, my agent, who we 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:06.820 will call Toni Mendez, because her name was Toni 01:04:06.820 --> 01:04:11.050 Mendez, got me an interview. With got me a 01:04:11.050 --> 01:04:14.050 a what do they call it every not a rehearsal 01:04:14.050 --> 01:04:18.889 got me an audition at MSNBC as it was then called 01:04:18.889 --> 01:04:21.590 and they they they had me coming in 01:04:21.590 --> 01:04:24.929 a weekend and record a sample show and they said 01:04:24.929 --> 01:04:27.250 and they called up my my agent afterwards 01:04:27.250 --> 01:04:29.699 and they're saying we like Ted He's 01:04:29.699 --> 01:04:32.519 really good. We'd like to start him 01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:34.539 out on the weekend and see how it goes. And then 01:04:34.539 --> 01:04:36.239 that's how they do it. And then, if his 01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:38.880 ratings are good, we'll move him into the week. 01:04:39.940 --> 01:04:43.780 But there's one thing. Ted has to promise that 01:04:43.780 --> 01:04:46.400 he will never criticize the Democratic Party. 01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:48.800 That's amazing. Now, bear in mind, this was in 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.599 the late 90s under Bill Clinton, right? So he's 01:04:53.670 --> 01:04:56.010 the city. Democrats are in charge, right? They 01:04:56.010 --> 01:04:59.690 have the White House. So I said, what? I remember 01:04:59.690 --> 01:05:03.130 telling, I was, I told my agent, I don't 01:05:03.130 --> 01:05:07.730 even know how that works. It's not even a matter 01:05:07.730 --> 01:05:10.670 of integrity. It's a matter of practicality. 01:05:10.690 --> 01:05:13.110 There's only two major political parties in the 01:05:13.110 --> 01:05:15.590 United States, and that's one of them. And you 01:05:15.590 --> 01:05:18.010 want me to not criticize half of the political 01:05:18.010 --> 01:05:21.630 system? How does that look? I don't even 01:05:21.630 --> 01:05:25.389 understand. It's, I'd be fair, but 01:05:25.389 --> 01:05:29.030 I don't even understand. I can tamp it 01:05:29.030 --> 01:05:31.250 down. I can have a more moderate tone than I 01:05:31.250 --> 01:05:33.170 do. I don't have to curse. All those things, 01:05:33.230 --> 01:05:36.130 right? But, it just doesn't make sense. 01:05:36.670 --> 01:05:42.730 And what's his name who Manila knows? God, he 01:05:42.730 --> 01:05:45.889 was on RT for a while. What was his name who 01:05:45.889 --> 01:05:49.210 used to be on MSNOW? He died. God, what's his 01:05:49.210 --> 01:05:54.920 name? He had a show. No, no, no. Other guy, heavyset 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.780 dude. That's another guy that died? He died 01:05:58.780 --> 01:06:01.659 a while ago. Oh, it's driving me. Yeah, I know 01:06:01.659 --> 01:06:02.840 what you're saying, but I'm trying to pull up 01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.440 his name. Hold up, because he ran in question. 01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.320 I want to say he was the main host for In Question. 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.559 I thought Manila was In Question. She was, but 01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.880 she took it over after he got sued. Oh, the politician. 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:20.059 Ed Schultz. Ed Schultz. Ed Schultz. Ed Schultz. 01:06:20.340 --> 01:06:23.250 Manila told this story about Ed Schultz. But 01:06:23.250 --> 01:06:25.929 I knew the story anyway. Ed Schultz was told 01:06:25.929 --> 01:06:30.329 that he was not allowed to mention Bernie Sanders 01:06:30.329 --> 01:06:34.909 during the 2016 primary. And he was, yeah, 01:06:34.989 --> 01:06:38.210 it's my show. I'll do what I want. And so he, 01:06:38.309 --> 01:06:41.289 I don't know if he interviewed Bernie or if he 01:06:41.289 --> 01:06:43.570 talked about Bernie. He interviewed Bernie. So 01:06:43.570 --> 01:06:47.650 they fired him. Yeah, they fired him. Even though 01:06:47.650 --> 01:06:49.389 he had good ratings. By the way, Ed tells the 01:06:49.389 --> 01:06:51.849 story. There's a clip of him telling the story. 01:06:52.389 --> 01:06:57.210 Yeah. So, Ed is 100%. I'm sure telling 01:06:57.210 --> 01:07:00.829 the truth here. So, that's how they are. 01:07:01.230 --> 01:07:03.889 It's just Tucker Carlson. He got fired. 01:07:04.369 --> 01:07:07.949 He had the highest rating show on cable news, 01:07:08.150 --> 01:07:13.389 period. He was the star at Fox. That doesn't 01:07:13.389 --> 01:07:15.429 protect you. I used to think it would, but it 01:07:15.429 --> 01:07:17.889 doesn't. And he did that interview with RFK Jr. 01:07:18.349 --> 01:07:21.340 about Vax and about how they do corporate 01:07:21.340 --> 01:07:23.500 captures through all the ads that they buy for 01:07:23.500 --> 01:07:28.539 the TV shows. And he just went away. He's just

01:07:28.539 --> 01:07:32.400 , you're done. Criticizing Israel's 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:34.039 big pharma, that's just a bridge too far. You 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:35.440 can't have that in a democracy. What's wrong 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.179 with you? You think you have a say? Cenk Uygur, 01:07:39.219 --> 01:07:43.659 crystal ball, same thing. If you remember, Cenk 01:07:43.659 --> 01:07:46.119 Uygur was working on MSNBC at one point. He was 01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.309 going back to the Young Turks. And they basically 01:07:49.309 --> 01:07:50.989 told him, it's, dude, you're too rough on 01:07:50.989 --> 01:07:54.030 our politicians. You can't criticize them 01:07:54.030 --> 01:07:57.510 this. But that's what he is and what the Young 01:07:57.510 --> 01:08:01.670 Turks brand is. Yeah, right, exactly. Which puts 01:08:01.670 --> 01:08:04.130 them in this kind of weird spot of, okay, well, 01:08:04.190 --> 01:08:05.449 I guess I'm not going to have a job. Meaning 01:08:05.449 --> 01:08:06.949 they took him off air. They were, well, 01:08:06.949 --> 01:08:09.130 we'll give you weekends and stuff that, 01:08:09.150 --> 01:08:10.469 in which case he just said no. In the long run, 01:08:10.469 --> 01:08:12.550 he gets more credibility that way, so it's fine. 01:08:13.170 --> 01:08:15.789 Krystal Ball, same thing. The way Krystal Ball, she 01:08:15.789 --> 01:08:18.680 did this thing criticizing Hillary Clinton. And 01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:21.600 they told her very clearly hey you can't do that 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.359 and from here on out you're going to have minders 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:27.239 right that's wild to me because what that 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:31.649 means is you're not getting an honest take it's 01:08:31.649 --> 01:08:34.789 Ukrainian state-controlled media right 01:08:34.789 --> 01:08:39.310 yeah you're getting a a a shaped narrative of 01:08:39.310 --> 01:08:41.949 things that's all they have a very clear 01:08:41.949 --> 01:08:46.029 point of view who else Jesse Ventura Donahue 01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.600 But Jesse Ventura was against the war. Donahue 01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:51.779 had great fucking ratings. Yes, he did. When 01:08:51.779 --> 01:08:57.060 I worked at KFI Radio in L.A., they were purchased 01:08:57.060 --> 01:08:59.560 by Clear Channel Communications, which is a right- 01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:03.260 wing company. It was previously owned by AMFM 01:09:03.260 --> 01:09:05.800 and before that by Cox Communications. Cox was 01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:11.300 Democratic. That's when I was hired. They came 01:09:11.300 --> 01:09:13.060 on and they were, my boss was, yeah, 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.720 so we have to let you go because you're not a 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.979 Republican. And they, and I was, yeah, but 01:09:18.979 --> 01:09:22.119 I have the highest ratings in my segment in the 01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:24.739 35 year history of the station. And it's, 01:09:24.779 --> 01:09:28.239 that's true, but we don't need you. They replaced 01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:31.880 me with the OJ prosecutor. If you, if you remember, 01:09:32.100 --> 01:09:36.199 Marcia Clark, yeah. Who had her ratings were 01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:39.260 about a seventh of mine. They kept her anyway. 01:09:39.729 --> 01:09:43.850 Because she was right wing. And so it's just 01:09:43.850 --> 01:09:47.109 , it's crazy. It's totally crazy. 01:09:47.130 --> 01:09:50.350 you just think, oh, capitalism isn't even 01:09:50.350 --> 01:09:52.569 capitalism. Capitalism doesn't play by its own 01:09:52.569 --> 01:09:54.529 rules. Capitalism is supposed to be, oh, 01:09:54.550 --> 01:09:56.649 if the people it and you have good ratings, 01:09:56.810 --> 01:09:58.829 then, you're going to have advertisers 01:09:58.829 --> 01:10:01.449 and, and then you'll stay on the air. 01:10:01.510 --> 01:10:04.949 But that's not even enough. You have to toe the 01:10:04.949 --> 01:10:07.829 line. You have to suck the right penises. Otherwise, 01:10:07.890 --> 01:10:10.949 you're out. Yep. Yeah they have specific things 01:10:10.949 --> 01:10:13.470 that they're interested in promoting it's 01:10:13.470 --> 01:10:16.369 anything else it's just it's wow it's just 01:10:16.369 --> 01:10:19.050 very well it's crazy it's just not it's just 01:10:19.050 --> 01:10:21.109 there's nothing that this country says about 01:10:21.109 --> 01:10:23.890 itself that is really true. Kilroy thanks for 01:10:23.890 --> 01:10:26.770 the two dollars give me AOC POTUS bikini calendar 01:10:26.770 --> 01:10:29.649 in 2028 no but that would be kind of 01:10:29.649 --> 01:10:33.029 a funny idea is the horrors of DC calendar 01:10:33.029 --> 01:10:37.579 She's very attractive. Speaking of 01:10:37.579 --> 01:10:41.739 that, Bachmann, was it not Bachmann? She just lost 01:10:41.739 --> 01:10:47.140 her race recently. Oh, Lauren Boebert? Lauren 01:10:47.140 --> 01:10:48.699 Boebert, the one who gave the guy a handjob at 01:10:48.699 --> 01:10:52.159 the theater. Yeah, the one who I have inexplicable 01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:55.920 hots for. She is so attractive. Oh, I know. And 01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:01.119 she's delicious. No question. And she obviously 01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:08.130 has no issue. Yeah, totally. I have 01:11:08.130 --> 01:11:11.489 an exhibitionist streak. I get it. Yeah. 01:11:11.529 --> 01:11:13.810 but you can't do that as a congresswoman. There 01:11:13.810 --> 01:11:17.590 was literally film of her giving a guy a handjob. 01:11:17.930 --> 01:11:21.369 And you're, you're a congresswoman. In a theater. 01:11:21.649 --> 01:11:24.210 Not even a dark movie theater. In a theater theater. 01:11:24.470 --> 01:11:26.949 It's a fight with the staff when they tell her 01:11:26.949 --> 01:11:30.369 to leave. Yeah, you know who I am? 01:11:30.430 --> 01:11:33.170 What? Those are my favorite words that any celebrity 01:11:33.170 --> 01:11:37.220 can ever say. Do you know who I am? Oh, 01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:40.720 boy. Oh,

boy. How can you be a congresswoman 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.420 doing that? Oh, God. Yeah, she lost her race. 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:46.859 I met Ryan Zinke when I worked for Verizon. And 01:11:46.859 --> 01:11:49.340 he came in. I probably told you all this story 01:11:49.340 --> 01:11:51.340 before. He came in. He wanted to get a free iPhone. 01:11:55.260 --> 01:11:58.079 Because he's really tall. I'm going to try that 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:00.079 next time I go to the AT&T store. He always 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:04.800 wore his Navy childhood. Oh, that's what he said. 01:12:04.859 --> 01:12:06.960 He's, do you understand who I am? I said, 01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.939 yeah, I know exactly who you are. I said, you 01:12:08.939 --> 01:12:13.840 are a carpetbagger from California masquerading 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.920 as my representative in Washington, D.C. I know 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.970 exactly who you are. And he just looked at someone 01:12:18.970 --> 01:12:23.689 and slapped him. It was just amazing. It's true, 01:12:23.770 --> 01:12:26.750 though. These privileged assholes are not used 01:12:26.750 --> 01:12:28.449 to being talked to that way. Do you know who 01:12:28.449 --> 01:12:30.829 I am? Yeah, you're the carpetbagger. That's an 01:12:30.829 --> 01:12:33.829 amazing thing to ask somebody that. Do you know 01:12:33.829 --> 01:12:36.670 who I am? Yeah, I can't even imagine. Yeah. I 01:12:36.670 --> 01:12:38.970 , I've had that asked about me in a hilarious 01:12:38.970 --> 01:12:42.989 way, out drunk. One time I went to 01:12:42.989 --> 01:12:45.050 the Rainbow Room, which had a dress code back 01:12:45.050 --> 01:12:48.109 then. You had to have a jacket. And I showed 01:12:48.109 --> 01:12:51.729 up on a drunken night with my friends and I didn't 01:12:51.729 --> 01:12:53.840 have a jacket. And as it turns out they lend 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:57.739 you a jacket if you don't have one but 01:12:57.739 --> 01:13:00.460 anyway they were I'm sorry sir so we can't 01:13:00.460 --> 01:13:02.239 let you in and my friends were do you know 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:06.100 who that is that's Ted Rall and you're gonna so 01:13:06.100 --> 01:13:08.760 that has happened but that was sarcastic and 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:12.279 hilarious oh that's funny yeah oh that's hilarious 01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:14.420 I just can't imagine a headspace with somebody 01:13:14.420 --> 01:13:18.250 saying do you know who I am Yeah, I know. Yeah, 01:13:18.270 --> 01:13:21.869 to say that about yourself, you have to be such 01:13:21.869 --> 01:13:23.350 a cock. And take umbrage by it, right? 01:13:23.470 --> 01:13:25.630 It's, do you know who I am? How dare 01:13:25.630 --> 01:13:28.449 you? So it's, dude, really? It's 01:13:28.449 --> 01:13:30.770 the opposite of, I just watched the most 01:13:30.770 --> 01:13:34.550 recent Springsteen biopic about the making of 01:13:34.550 --> 01:13:36.470 Nebraska. And there's a scene where he goes to 01:13:36.470 --> 01:13:39.949 buy a used car. And, basically, he's just 01:13:39.949 --> 01:13:43.289 asking about the car. And at one point, the salesman 01:13:43.289 --> 01:13:44.810 just says, by the way, I know who you 01:13:44.810 --> 01:13:48.300 are. But Bruce Springsteen never says, by the 01:13:48.300 --> 01:13:49.319 way, I'm Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, he wasn't using 01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:51.979 it for any kind of events. Right. He's just looking 01:13:51.979 --> 01:13:57.810 for a car. That's proper, right? Yeah. Yeah. 01:13:57.949 --> 01:14:00.789 It's funny. I've been looking at mountain climbing 01:14:00.789 --> 01:14:04.869 deaths for some reason. Oh, my God. I don't know 01:14:04.869 --> 01:14:09.890 why. Have you ever seen that movie? It's a documentary. 01:14:10.010 --> 01:14:14.229 I think it's called Into the Death Zone. And 01:14:14.229 --> 01:14:16.869 it's about - Into Thin Air. No, not that. No, 01:14:16.930 --> 01:14:19.229 Into Thin Air is the fictional, well, is the 01:14:19.229 --> 01:14:22.569 reenactment, right, movie. Yeah, that guy's full 01:14:22.569 --> 01:14:26.029 of shit who wrote that book. Oh, Krakauer. 01:14:26.869 --> 01:14:31.050 Yeah, yeah. Krakauer is full of shit. He personally 01:14:31.050 --> 01:14:34.770 smeared me in one of his books. Did he? Yeah. 01:14:34.770 --> 01:14:37.029 He smeared the guy on the mountain also. Yeah, 01:14:37.029 --> 01:14:39.770 he's a smearer. Fuck him. So I'll tell my story. 01:14:39.869 --> 01:14:46.739 So he did a book about Pat Tillman. And so at 01:14:46.739 --> 01:14:49.500 the very, you can save yourself, whatever, 01:14:49.579 --> 01:14:52.800 the 20 bucks. If you go look at the very end 01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:57.100 of his foreword to that book, he mentions me 01:14:57.100 --> 01:15:00.000 and Ann Coulter in the same breath. And basically 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.199 he's trying to say, Ted Rall did a 01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:04.300 cartoon about Pat Tillman and Ann Coulter wrote 01:15:04.300 --> 01:15:06.800 something about Pat Tillman, both on the left 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.239 and on the right. Nobody really understood the 01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:12.359 implication is, of course, I will tell you what's 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:16.020 real, right? From the moral center, left Democrat. 01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.899 And so I was, okay, so here's the thing. 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.479 He never called me to ask me about what I was 01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.880 thinking about when I drew that cartoon. And 01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.100 if he had, I would have referred him to Pat Tillman's 01:15:29.100 --> 01:15:32.039 mom, Mary Tillman, who I know, and would have 01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:33.739 said, and Mary Tillman would have been, 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:37.819 back off, bitch, to him. So Krakauer, I have 01:15:37.819 --> 01:15:40.060 no respect for him because it's, dude, you're 01:15:40.060 --> 01:15:42.439 a rich guy. You have research assistants. You 01:15:42.439 -->

01:15:44.100 could have if you didn't have time to call me, 01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:45.960 you could have had one of your research assistants 01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.899 email me and just get a comment. Right. But you 01:15:48.899 --> 01:15:52.539 didn't do that. You just fucking just farted 01:15:52.539 --> 01:15:55.020 it out. He's not. Journalists check things 01:15:55.020 --> 01:16:00.449 out. He didn't do that. He yeah, he slandered 01:16:00.449 --> 01:16:02.609 that guy. Because he tried he was 01:16:02.609 --> 01:16:06.140 sleeping in his tent. B, the other guy went out 01:16:06.140 --> 01:16:08.539 to save three people while he was asleep in his 01:16:08.539 --> 01:16:10.560 tent. And when he wrote the book, he wrote the 01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:12.619 book as if the guy was at fault. When the guy... 01:16:12.619 --> 01:16:15.680 Krakauer's a hack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a 01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:18.750 mean fucker. He's a... one of these 01:16:18.750 --> 01:16:21.390 Pacific Northwest assholes who are, 01:16:21.470 --> 01:16:23.390 I don't know, it's a sort of type, spending 01:16:23.390 --> 01:16:26.569 too much time in Columbia sportswear gear fucks 01:16:26.569 --> 01:16:30.229 up your brain or something. But he's just a cock. 01:16:30.850 --> 01:16:36.449 I do hate him. Okay, so good writer though. Fiction 01:16:36.449 --> 01:16:38.829 writer. I heard the book was amazingly written. 01:16:39.229 --> 01:16:42.609 Oh, no, it was great. Not a climbing movie. So, 01:16:42.609 --> 01:16:47.489 okay, so the incident, that disaster prone on 01:16:47.489 --> 01:16:51.329 Mount Everest that is discussed in Into Thin 01:16:51.329 --> 01:16:54.310 Air. I wouldn't say documented exactly. There's 01:16:54.310 --> 01:16:57.750 an actual Nat Geo movie that is actually kind 01:16:57.750 --> 01:17:00.390 of hard to find. But if you Mount, but the 01:17:00.390 --> 01:17:04.029 thing is, this is the actual, this is the, it's 01:17:04.029 --> 01:17:06.810 in real time. It's the, it's from the mountain. 01:17:06.869 --> 01:17:09.829 It's not reenacted, right? And it's crazy. 01:17:10.189 --> 01:17:12.869 Literally, you're watching people die 01:17:12.869 --> 01:17:16.779 on the mountain. It's crazy. And and you 01:17:16.779 --> 01:17:18.539 as well I kept looking at that things to 01:17:18.539 --> 01:17:21.949 myself that mountain is trying to kill you 01:17:21.949 --> 01:17:24.890 yeah right well that's not true the mountain 01:17:24.890 --> 01:17:26.770 is agnostic the mountain doesn't care about you 01:17:26.770 --> 01:17:30.470 it's indifferent and that's even scarier in a 01:17:30.470 --> 01:17:35.750 weird way but it's the thin air sometimes 01:17:35.750 --> 01:17:37.409 it's negative 60 degrees oh here it is it's 01:17:37.409 --> 01:17:41.850 called Everest the Death Zone 1998. The death 01:17:41.850 --> 01:17:44.250 zone is the spot of Everest that people basically 01:17:44.250 --> 01:17:46.109 try to get through where a lot of people die 01:17:46.109 --> 01:17:48.189 in fact Many of those people just stay on the 01:17:48.189 --> 01:17:50.710 mountain. The Death Zone just means anything 01:17:50.710 --> 01:17:53.329 over 26,000 feet because that's when your body 01:17:53.329 --> 01:17:56.029 starts to consume itself. Right. It's the 01:17:56.029 --> 01:17:58.489 air is 30% of what you typically get. Your 01:17:58.489 --> 01:18:02.609 body can't heal right. You're basically at cruising 01:18:02.609 --> 01:18:06.390 altitude of a commercial jetliner. You're not 01:18:06.390 --> 01:18:09.630 supposed to be there. You're not really on Earth 01:18:09.630 --> 01:18:14.329 anymore. Well, you're on Earth. Sort of. Tethered 01:18:14.329 --> 01:18:17.029 to the mountain yeah but you're higher you're 01:18:17.029 --> 01:18:19.430 not where humans live right yeah right right 01:18:19.430 --> 01:18:22.430 yeah yeah there's something even if there 01:18:22.430 --> 01:18:24.409 were no snow there would be no bugs there would 01:18:24.409 --> 01:18:27.229 be no birds there would be no grass so would 01:18:27.229 --> 01:18:29.449 I do that if I was in good shape would I 01:18:29.449 --> 01:18:32.949 do some that that's it's such a 01:18:33.140 --> 01:18:35.399 and by the way they it takes months to do it 01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:37.800 by the way in this death zone movie this one 01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:40.689 guy this one guy goes why do we come here 01:18:40.689 --> 01:18:43.409 he's right why are we here we just 01:18:43.409 --> 01:18:46.720 come here to die well when I went bungee jumping 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.199 that's a good question it's a it's totally Freud's 01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:52.260 death wish right when I went skydiving I thought 01:18:52.260 --> 01:18:55.100 that too I thought why are you doing this and 01:18:55.100 --> 01:18:56.380 I thought that when I was going bungee jumping 01:18:56.380 --> 01:18:58.140 why are you I thought that when I I thought that 01:18:58.140 --> 01:19:00.500 when I went to Afghanistan yeah I was I 01:19:00.500 --> 01:19:03.020 shouldn't be here this is bad and yet I still 01:19:03.020 --> 01:19:06.079 did it and I'll do this again I don't know I 01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.729 if you were physically fit that And 01:19:08.729 --> 01:19:11.289 you were in that great of shape. And you 01:19:11.289 --> 01:19:13.130 thought to yourself, I'm going to test the best 01:19:13.130 --> 01:19:16.149 of myself. Yeah, that's what it is. It's about 01:19:16.149 --> 01:19:19.510 testing. Men used to test themselves in war. 01:19:20.050 --> 01:19:23.130 Right. But not anymore. But this was 01:19:23.130 --> 01:19:25.069 also another way of doing it. What's wild to 01:19:25.069 --> 01:19:27.250 me also are the influencers, where they're, 01:19:27.310 --> 01:19:29.850 their audience will say, you should climb Mount 01:19:29.850 --> 01:19:31.409 Everest. And they're, yeah, that's a good 01:19:31.409 --> 01:19:35.029 idea. My thing about it is also, okay, but 01:19:35.029

--> 01:19:38.010 where's the glory, right? You get personal accomplishment 01:19:38.010 --> 01:19:40.310 for doing something that. But look, thousands 01:19:40.310 --> 01:19:42.449 of people have climbed Everest, right? Who fucking 01:19:42.449 --> 01:19:45.270 cares? It's, it's, 01:19:45.289 --> 01:19:48.409 it's, you're not doing anything that hasn't 01:19:48.409 --> 01:19:50.829 been done before. There's other places on earth 01:19:50.829 --> 01:19:54.609 that nobody's ever been. Traverse the Wakhan 01:19:54.609 --> 01:19:57.529 Corridor at certain points. No one ever has. 01:19:57.609 --> 01:20:01.500 We don't know that anyone's ever done that. I 01:20:01.500 --> 01:20:03.039 don't know anybody that has been to Everest. 01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:06.500 And I suspect you don't know. Oh, it's a good 01:20:06.500 --> 01:20:08.479 question. Do I know anyone? No, I don't. I'm 01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:09.800 trying to make the point. It's only been a few 01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:13.960 thousand over the course of eons. And that has 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.399 been there, right? True. It was only back 01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:20.039 in, what, the 80s or 50s when somebody first 01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.119 traversed it? Well, it was Hillary, right? It 01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:27.359 was Sir Edmund Hillary. Right. First ascent ever. 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.260 But then there's K2. And K2 is harder, right? 01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:33.649 That's even worse. Yeah. More people die. 1953. 01:20:34.270 --> 01:20:37.050 Yeah. That's a savage mountain. Yeah. The K2 01:20:37.050 --> 01:20:38.770 is even worse. The number of people, 01:20:38.789 --> 01:20:40.489 and by the way, and stay on the mountain. That's 01:20:40.489 --> 01:20:42.930 the wild part to me. You usually can't pull 01:20:42.930 --> 01:20:44.369 those people off the mountains. Many of 01:20:44.369 --> 01:20:46.229 those people just. Oh, they're, they're still, 01:20:46.250 --> 01:20:48.149 yeah. They're up there for forever. They stay 01:20:48.149 --> 01:20:51.109 with the mountain. And they become markers, right? 01:20:51.149 --> 01:20:53.909 Literally it'll be red jacket guy or 01:20:53.909 --> 01:20:56.189 whatever. Green boots. I think that was his name. 01:20:56.189 --> 01:20:59.270 Can you imagine you tell your family, Hey, I'm 01:20:59.270 --> 01:21:02.039 going to climb Mount Everest. I may never be back 01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:04.500 don't come back in that movie they show a guy 01:21:04.500 --> 01:21:07.819 he he calls up on his satellite phone calls his 01:21:07.819 --> 01:21:10.659 family who's in Australia yeah 01:21:10.659 --> 01:21:13.800 on a beautiful sunny day goodbye goodbye 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.840 I'm gonna die when you do that you're you don't 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.699 think you're coming back yeah I couldn't imagine 01:21:19.699 --> 01:21:22.119 that and I started even thinking about it from 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:23.739 the standpoint of my mom where I go traveling 01:21:23.739 --> 01:21:28.039 what if I just don't come back right right but 01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:31.520 you're not going to a war zone right yeah 01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.880 you're not going someplace that you is dangerous 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:38.770 yeah that's wow it's just it's just it's hard 01:21:38.770 --> 01:21:40.489 to fathom that some of those people in their 01:21:40.489 --> 01:21:46.720 20s just wow it's crazy we've gotten very morbid 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:50.159 I'm sorry yeah I'm a morbid kind of dude though 01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:53.300 all right so all right let's talk we got we 01:21:53.300 --> 01:21:56.000 got other stuff to talk about all right Krista 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.300 Pike Israel Gaza okay Krista Pike so this will 01:22:00.300 --> 01:22:04.359 be pretty brief, I think. So Tennessee tried 01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:08.880 to kill Krista Pike, a murderess. They tried 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.439 it not once, but twice. She ended up in the hospital. 01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:14.739 They saved her life. Now she's back in prison 01:22:14.739 --> 01:22:16.380 and they're trying to figure out whether they 01:22:16.380 --> 01:22:19.619 want to kill her again. Her lawyers say. And 01:22:19.619 --> 01:22:21.800 we're not sure why the lawyers are doing this, 01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:25.079 if this is part of a possible civil lawsuit or 01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:27.840 more likely an attempt to save her life, because 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.100 they would probably try to use the same drug 01:22:30.100 --> 01:22:32.539 again if they were going to go after her for 01:22:32.539 --> 01:22:35.659 a third time. And so anyway, it's pentobarbital. 01:22:36.539 --> 01:22:40.920 The cocktail that used to be used for these state 01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.439 executions in southern states Tennessee 01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:47.720 used to come from the EU, but the EU issued a 01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:50.689 prohibition against the export of any drugs 01:22:50.689 --> 01:22:53.569 from the EU to the United States to be used for 01:22:53.569 --> 01:22:56.289 executions so basically they've had to source 01:22:56.289 --> 01:23:00.350 either old drugs or gray market drugs or God 01:23:00.350 --> 01:23:02.149 knows what kind of rat poison they're coming 01:23:02.149 --> 01:23:06.090 up with so they have a secret supplier the state 01:23:06.090 --> 01:23:08.350 of Tennessee says and they say they have a state 01:23:08.350 --> 01:23:12.550 law that said we don't reveal this in court And 01:23:12.550 --> 01:23:14.869 and therefore and it would threaten because it 01:23:14.869 --> 01:23:16.390 would threaten the death penalty. We wouldn't 01:23:16.390 --> 01:23:20.310 be able to do it. So therefore, so 01:23:20.310 --> 01:23:22.170 they're basically the state of Tennessee went 01:23:22.170 --> 01:23:24.170 and said, the lawyers say, we want to know what 01:23:24.170 --> 01:23:26.689 this is. We want to send it to a lab. Want to 01:23:26.689 -->

01:23:29.609 know why it didn't work. And you should 01:23:29.609 --> 01:23:36.479 tell us that is not the way it's, it's 01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:40.810 worked here. It's really crazy to me that 01:23:40.810 --> 01:23:45.289 they. That this is a that 01:23:45.289 --> 01:23:48.819 all I can say is the least that the state of 01:23:48.819 --> 01:23:54.409 Tennessee can do is let is let her lawyers know 01:23:54.409 --> 01:23:57.130 let her know what's in that that they put in 01:23:57.130 --> 01:24:01.220 her body it's the least they can do I 01:24:01.470 --> 01:24:03.609 what if nothing else so that 01:24:03.609 --> 01:24:05.949 they can treat her right so that the medical 01:24:05.949 --> 01:24:09.210 professionals can know the exact nature of this 01:24:09.210 --> 01:24:10.909 poison that they put inside her that they're 01:24:10.909 --> 01:24:15.260 treating her for well So they're still treating 01:24:15.260 --> 01:24:17.819 her? Or is she back in prison? She's back in 01:24:17.819 --> 01:24:19.680 prison, but presumably, she'll have to 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:22.239 be checked upon. She was in 01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:24.760 terrible condition after what they did to her. 01:24:25.340 --> 01:24:29.159 They should... It's the cops. So they're 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.079 probably not, but they should. If you're 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:32.800 going to put... See, that's the weird part, right? 01:24:33.220 --> 01:24:36.789 It's, well, we tried to kill her. Now we 01:24:36.789 --> 01:24:40.090 desperately need to save her life so we can try 01:24:40.090 --> 01:24:42.189 to kill her again with the same shit that didn't 01:24:42.189 --> 01:24:45.630 work before. Right. This is so weird to me. God, 01:24:45.689 --> 01:24:48.430 this is so bizarre to me. People need to realize 01:24:48.430 --> 01:24:51.149 how strange this case is. We need to kill a woman 01:24:51.149 --> 01:24:53.909 because we have our own death penalty. We give 01:24:53.909 --> 01:24:56.909 her a bunch of random shit that doesn't exactly 01:24:56.909 --> 01:24:59.250 kill her immediately. And because it doesn't 01:24:59.250 --> 01:25:03.090 kill her immediately, we save her life. Using 01:25:03.090 --> 01:25:08.970 heroic means. Spending tens of thousands of dollars. 01:25:09.590 --> 01:25:11.590 Now we need to figure out whether we want to 01:25:11.590 --> 01:25:14.970 kill her again. And if so, are we going to use 01:25:14.970 --> 01:25:16.529 the same stuff that didn't work the first time 01:25:16.529 --> 01:25:18.689 around? But we won't tell you what it is because 01:25:18.689 --> 01:25:20.909 we don't want to expose who's giving it to us 01:25:20.909 --> 01:25:23.229 because they probably are breaking the law, right? 01:25:23.449 --> 01:25:25.170 Well, also, there's this other weird element 01:25:25.170 --> 01:25:27.149 of it of, okay, we're providing treatment to 01:25:27.149 --> 01:25:30.520 somebody that we're trying to kill. Yes. 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:34.199 What are you

doing? I don't know if they're breaking 01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:35.659 the law. I do know they're bringing a lot of 01:25:35.659 --> 01:25:37.199 weird stuff together that they're probably trying 01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:39.899 to put to kill somebody. Which case they probably 01:25:39.899 --> 01:25:41.840 don't want to reveal what they've been using 01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:43.340 because they're going to get scrutinized for 01:25:43.340 --> 01:25:45.800 using some kind of random stuff. Well, I know 01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.159 they could be using rat poison. Who knows? I 01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:50.659 think we should really make it as outlandish 01:25:50.659 --> 01:25:52.840 as possible. I agree with your suggestion, Jamarl. 01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:56.739 Let's put her in a boat off the coast of Venezuela 01:25:56.739 --> 01:26:01.310 and blow her up with a drone. Double tap. Experience 01:26:01.310 --> 01:26:04.090 little little Pete Hegseth can do that when he's 01:26:04.090 --> 01:26:07.729 not busy not being gay we can we 01:26:07.729 --> 01:26:10.189 could we could we could do it we could have a 01:26:10.189 --> 01:26:13.310 Running Man type situation put up put a 01:26:13.310 --> 01:26:16.069 bounty on her head set her loose in the streets 01:26:16.069 --> 01:26:18.909 whoever shoots her first gets gets the money 01:26:18.909 --> 01:26:21.810 very profitable it'd be Black Mirror or 01:26:21.810 --> 01:26:24.890 you could drop her head first without a parachute 01:26:24.890 --> 01:26:28.289 out of a plane there's so many good 01:26:28.289 --> 01:26:30.630 ideas Chickamauga was right there. It's 01:26:30.630 --> 01:26:32.710 one of the bloodiest battles in American history. 01:26:32.909 --> 01:26:34.829 They just take her there and shoot her. What 01:26:34.829 --> 01:26:39.069 about Zoo Tiger? Zoo Tiger rarely gets to eat 01:26:39.069 --> 01:26:45.689 a person. Come on, I want to see that. Zoo Tiger. 01:26:46.630 --> 01:26:49.010 It's, hey, kitty, kitty, meow, meow. And 01:26:49.010 --> 01:26:53.449 if she wins, she's free to go. Yeah, if she kills 01:26:53.449 --> 01:26:57.350 the tiger. Or just get the tiger to leave. No, 01:26:57.350 --> 01:26:59.069 it could just be ecologically sound. Just chain 01:26:59.069 --> 01:27:01.529 her to a boulder and drop her down into a lake. 01:27:02.619 --> 01:27:04.680 True. Yeah, there's always the old cinder block 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:06.939 on the feet approach. Well, the fish are eater. 01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:09.180 If you feed her to a lion, at the very least, 01:27:09.180 --> 01:27:11.140 you could feed the lion. Well, the fish are eater. 01:27:11.300 --> 01:27:16.239 True. It saves on lion kibble. All I'm saying 01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:18.460 is Tennessee's making this harder than they need 01:27:18.460 --> 01:27:20.600 to. Yeah, I think they are. They're not that 01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:22.340 smart down there. Their ideas are much better 01:27:22.340 --> 01:27:26.439 than theirs. True. Operators are

standing by. 01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:30.300 Call the DeProgram. We will be your capital punishment 01:27:30.300 --> 01:27:33.399 consultants for the dinguses in Tennessee who 01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:39.130 don't know how to kill people. Yep. Yep. I am 01:27:39.130 --> 01:27:44.239 partial to the Caribbean thing. Yeah. It's a 01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:48.560 great idea. Okay. I would a Viking funeral. 01:27:48.939 --> 01:27:52.579 No, because listen. Y'all are concerned about 01:27:52.579 --> 01:27:55.060 global warming and pollutants in the atmosphere. 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:57.739 So you have to fly her down there. That uses 01:27:57.739 --> 01:27:59.420 jets to build this carbon in the atmosphere. 01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:02.500 That's true. Listen, you've got to pick a side 01:28:02.500 --> 01:28:04.560 here. If you're for the earth, then you can't 01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:06.220 be polluting the atmosphere to go blow this lady 01:28:06.220 --> 01:28:10.460 up. True. Just drop her in a lake. That's 01:28:10.460 --> 01:28:12.970 all you've got to do. Problem solved. They have 01:28:12.970 --> 01:28:15.989 lakes in Tennessee. They do. Mississippi River, 01:28:16.289 --> 01:28:19.810 right next to Memphis. You have options. 01:28:20.149 --> 01:28:23.930 This is not difficult. Tennessee, apparently. 01:28:24.449 --> 01:28:28.109 Wasn't it Loudon Wainwright or Loudon Wainwright's 01:28:28.109 --> 01:28:30.189 dad who washed away in the Mississippi River? 01:28:30.789 --> 01:28:34.170 Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I think that's right. 01:28:34.329 --> 01:28:37.069 Some singer-songwriter dude standing in three 01:28:37.069 --> 01:28:39.130 feet of water got washed away by the Mississippi 01:28:39.130 --> 01:28:41.609 River. Just put her in four feet of water. Bye! 01:28:42.130 --> 01:28:45.649 There's all sorts of ways. There are 01:28:45.649 --> 01:28:48.060 many ways. There's many neighborhoods 01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:51.939 in Memphis where just walking around might just 01:28:51.939 --> 01:28:54.600 get you killed. I don't know why they just didn't 01:28:54.600 --> 01:29:00.140 let her die. What was the issue? You give 01:29:00.140 --> 01:29:02.359 somebody a death penalty. You give them a bunch 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:06.079 of random shit. It's you say. It didn't 01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:11.100 go the exact way that they wanted. But they could 01:29:11.100 --> 01:29:14.699 have just let her die. Totally. The idea 01:29:14.699 --> 01:29:17.100 that you have to save somebody after you try 01:29:17.100 --> 01:29:22.609 to kill them. It's just weird. No doubt. 01:29:22.649 --> 01:29:24.869 It's kind of, well, what does the word weird 01:29:24.869 --> 01:29:27.369 mean? Here, I'll tell you. This is what weird 01:29:27.369 --> 01:29:31.770 means. Philip, Jamarl, look into Mount Erebus 01:29:31.770 --> 01:29:35.529 in Antarctica. It's a volcanic peak Mount 01:29:35.529 --> 01:29:38.489 Rainier or Mount Fuji, but overlooking McMurdo 01:29:38.489 --> 01:29:40.970 Station in Antarctica. I have a friend who's 01:29:40.970 --> 01:29:43.970 actually been there. I just don't have any. I 01:29:43.970 --> 01:29:48.159 have a horrible physical system. Antarctica would 01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:52.279 be tough yeah I just wish I was one of 01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:54.239 those people because I think I would have probably 01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.340 tried to do some that which I don't 01:29:58.340 --> 01:30:00.159 know to my betterment or detriment I suppose 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:03.520 but I look at them and I think to myself God 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:06.159 man why would you do that and then I think to 01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:08.760 myself for myself I take risk all the 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:12.520 time when I'm taking trips sure and I think 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.010 to myself okay well these risks maybe similar 01:30:15.010 --> 01:30:16.989 take a risk when you get into a car 01:30:16.989 --> 01:30:20.829 yeah but the car is not at 26,000 feet 01:30:20.829 --> 01:30:24.130 trying to kill you that's true why do 01:30:24.130 --> 01:30:26.609 you climb a mountain because it's there because 01:30:26.609 --> 01:30:29.210 it's there that was John right why do we climb 01:30:29.210 --> 01:30:32.189 the mountain I think that's Hillary Sir Edmund 01:30:32.189 --> 01:30:35.789 Hillary said that Douglas Hobbden so after 01:30:35.789 --> 01:30:37.789 everyone in the U.S. gives up on this hopelessly 01:30:37.789 --> 01:30:40.550 corrupt system which pill are you going to take 01:30:40.550 --> 01:30:43.659 revolution or savage bloody civil war Oh, I'm 01:30:43.659 --> 01:30:46.909 on Team R all the way. Aren't those the same 01:30:46.909 --> 01:30:49.770 thing? Nah, civil, bloody civil. Well, they can 01:30:49.770 --> 01:30:53.710 be. But, a revolution would be the overthrow 01:30:53.710 --> 01:30:56.250 of the existing system and the replacement of 01:30:56.250 --> 01:30:57.050 it with something globally better. Yeah, but 01:30:57.050 --> 01:30:59.510 usually they fight to maintain that system, hence 01:30:59.510 --> 01:31:01.750 the Civil War. Yeah, that's true. I guess you're 01:31:01.750 --> 01:31:03.270 right. Those are different things. That's supposed 01:31:03.270 --> 01:31:06.229 to be right. I'm Team Bloody Savage Civil War, 01:31:06.390 --> 01:31:10.930 and I hope to God I'm wrong. Well, no, we're 01:31:10.930 --> 01:31:13.880 talking about which one do you want. I don't 01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:16.840 want either. If I wanted something to be revolution, 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.340 but I think what we're going to get is bloody 01:31:19.340 --> 01:31:21.939 savage civil war. The country's too divided. 01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:26.260 There's a majority of nothing. I don't know if 01:31:26.260 --> 01:31:29.520 we're that divided. We are. It was only 1,800 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:33.539 guys who stormed the Winter Palace. Revolution's 01:31:33.539 --> 01:31:37.439 not a democratic act. It's not carried out by

01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:40.119 a majority. Most people sit on the banks of the 01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:43.159 river of history and watch it go by. Well, that's 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:45.750 true. But we have history no 01:31:45.750 --> 01:31:47.930 no look at China whenever the mandate 01:31:47.930 --> 01:31:50.409 of heaven is taken away from from a dynasty there 01:31:50.409 --> 01:31:52.409 wasn't a peaceful revolution where their dynasty 01:31:52.409 --> 01:31:54.630 was all the warring states developed then what 01:31:54.630 --> 01:31:57.189 happened you have 400 years of civil war Sengoku 01:31:57.189 --> 01:31:59.430 in Japan is the same way the the last shogun 01:31:59.430 --> 01:32:01.989 dies everyone started picking over the corpse 01:32:01.989 --> 01:32:04.829 and you have centuries of civil war here in the 01:32:04.829 --> 01:32:07.890 United States there was a Russian civil war following 01:32:07.890 --> 01:32:12.000 the Bolshevik Revolution it it's It will 01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.840 shatter Humpty Dumpty and God help us all. 01:32:15.380 --> 01:32:19.159 Unfortunately, that is true. All right. So two 01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:21.880 more things to talk about. And we have time. 01:32:22.720 --> 01:32:26.659 There's the ICE story and there's the Gaza story, 01:32:26.779 --> 01:32:30.529 which, which one story. All right. So you do 01:32:30.529 --> 01:32:32.520 either, but I'm just, whatever. All right, let's 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:36.840 do Gaza. So Gaza is so that part of the world, 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.380 we see a lot of footage that tends 01:32:39.380 --> 01:32:42.380 to imply that it's always dry, but it's not. 01:32:42.829 --> 01:32:45.630 And in the eastern Mediterranean, particularly 01:32:45.630 --> 01:32:47.590 in the winter, I've been there around this time 01:32:47.590 --> 01:32:51.090 of the year, it rains a lot, kind of incessantly 01:32:51.090 --> 01:32:54.289 sometimes. And this is one of those times. So 01:32:54.289 --> 01:32:58.449 the stormwater basin is contaminated by its sewage 01:32:58.449 --> 01:33:00.630 because, of course, as part of the genocide, 01:33:01.010 --> 01:33:03.210 the Israelis have been systematically destroying 01:33:03.210 --> 01:33:06.750 all of the infrastructure in Gaza, including 01:33:06.750 --> 01:33:10.310 the drainage pipes and all that. And so people 01:33:10.310 --> 01:33:13.710 are living outdoors in tents. And it's not five 01:33:13.710 --> 01:33:16.989 degrees outside, but it's fucking cold and rainy 01:33:16.989 --> 01:33:20.350 and miserable. It can be in the 40s, 30s. 01:33:20.390 --> 01:33:21.829 people are going to get desperately 01:33:21.829 --> 01:33:24.890 sick. They are already disease is spreading. 01:33:24.949 --> 01:33:27.590 And I don't mean the dreaded Hegsethitis that 01:33:27.590 --> 01:33:30.029 keeps Democrats from showing up to key votes. 01:33:30.149 --> 01:33:34.859 Real disease. And so. Anyway, among these 01:33:34.859 --> 01:33:38.680 million or so people who've been displaced and, 01:33:38.819 --> 01:33:40.520 population figures are hard to come 01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:45.069 by, but basically they're living outside. 01:33:45.069 --> 01:33:48.289 Toxic sewage is pouring into the streets and 01:33:48.289 --> 01:33:51.449 into the shelters and into people's tents so 01:33:51.449 --> 01:33:54.409 UNICEF is okay well we have the gear and 01:33:54.409 --> 01:33:57.109 we have it we have a civil construct civil engineering 01:33:57.109 --> 01:34:00.369 reconstruction teams who are have all the 01:34:00.369 --> 01:34:03.010 that they need to go to work and fix this stuff 01:34:03.010 --> 01:34:06.329 up and the Israelis are Yeah, no, we're 01:34:06.329 --> 01:34:08.810 not letting you go in there. UNICEF is studiously 01:34:08.810 --> 01:34:11.529 apolitical, and they try to maintain good relations 01:34:11.529 --> 01:34:14.649 with all countries, including combatants. So 01:34:14.649 --> 01:34:17.970 for them to step forward and say, Israel sucks, 01:34:18.250 --> 01:34:20.670 they're preventing us from getting in and taking 01:34:20.670 --> 01:34:24.109 care of this vital infrastructure repair, tells 01:34:24.109 --> 01:34:27.109 me that they have been, they're at their wit's 01:34:27.109 --> 01:34:30.029 end, and the Israelis are being, total 01:34:30.029 --> 01:34:33.130 not shocking, total assholes. And they just don't 01:34:33.130 --> 01:34:35.250 want this to be fixed. They don't want it to 01:34:35.250 --> 01:34:37.470 be fixed keep in mind the Israeli perspective 01:34:37.470 --> 01:34:41.569 is we want you to go we either want to eradicate 01:34:41.569 --> 01:34:45.409 you to die or for you to leave one or the other 01:34:45.409 --> 01:34:48.250 hence We don't want you to go to hospitals, which 01:34:48.250 --> 01:34:49.909 is why we're blowing up hospitals. We don't want 01:34:49.909 --> 01:34:51.510 you to go to cancer centers, which is why we're 01:34:51.510 --> 01:34:54.609 blowing up cancer centers. I remember when they 01:34:54.609 --> 01:34:56.670 first hit that hospital and they were, oh, 01:34:56.689 --> 01:34:58.850 we don't hit hospitals. We would never do that. 01:34:59.090 --> 01:35:01.310 It's blood libel to say that we hit a hospital 01:35:01.310 --> 01:35:03.890 and there's a base underneath the hospital and 01:35:03.890 --> 01:35:05.609 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They hit hospitals 01:35:05.609 --> 01:35:08.810 left and right now, right? No, they don't want 01:35:08.810 --> 01:35:11.630 them to be there. And so if you can have sewage 01:35:11.630 --> 01:35:16.289 filling the streets, great. If you have tents 01:35:16.289 --> 01:35:18.170 that are being flooded, if you have rats that 01:35:18.170 --> 01:35:19.989 are everywhere, which they are in both cases, 01:35:20.130 --> 01:35:22.829 rats, sewage, and flooding. This is what the 01:35:22.829 --> 01:35:24.689 people are effectively living through. If you 01:35:24.689 --> 01:35:26.569 could take 70% of the territory,

then you do 01:35:26.569 --> 01:35:28.710 that. By the way, they do the same thing 01:35:28.710 --> 01:35:31.850 in Lebanon. When the Lebanese are trying to rebuild, 01:35:32.149 --> 01:35:34.229 they would attack construction companies, construction 01:35:34.229 --> 01:35:37.229 equipment, vehicles, et cetera, anything to prevent 01:35:37.229 --> 01:35:39.670 the rebuilding of the particular area. And they're 01:35:39.670 --> 01:35:41.909 doing the same thing in Gaza. Yeah, it's disgusting. 01:35:42.090 --> 01:35:45.310 It's what they do, though. It's early on, 01:35:45.390 --> 01:35:47.270 people should understand, when they're looking 01:35:47.270 --> 01:35:49.630 at this, the context they really need to take 01:35:49.630 --> 01:35:54.090 on this is Israel wants the land. It's not religious. 01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:57.020 It's about land. That's what they want to take. 01:35:57.420 --> 01:35:59.479 And if they can get rid of the population that 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:01.100 just so happens to be on that land, they would 01:36:01.100 --> 01:36:02.800 do everything in their power to do so, up and 01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:04.579 including murder, which is what they've been 01:36:04.579 --> 01:36:07.000 doing. So the idea that sewage is moving through, 01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:08.180 from their point of view, they're, great. 01:36:09.579 --> 01:36:12.500 Yeah, you don't need smallpox if you have sepsis. 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:16.659 Yep. Mother Nature is the most is the most brutal 01:36:16.659 --> 01:36:18.739 killer that's out there so let her do the job 01:36:18.739 --> 01:36:21.869 in fact most wars are the nature right most 01:36:21.869 --> 01:36:25.800 of the deaths and wars nature yeah that's 01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:27.640 the thing right for people for scientists 01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:31.039 who argue that this isn't genocide it's 01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.600 look the destruction of the infrastructure 01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:38.119 the eradication of the system systemic demolition 01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:41.949 of buildings, ordinary picayune, as 01:36:41.949 --> 01:36:44.369 well as historical buildings, 01:36:44.369 --> 01:36:47.550 these old Catholic, old Christian churches, everything. 01:36:48.010 --> 01:36:51.350 That's all part of the genocide. It's, you're 01:36:51.350 --> 01:36:54.449 trying to make sure not, you're not just this, 01:36:54.510 --> 01:36:57.310 if this was a counterattack, as Zionists were 01:36:57.310 --> 01:36:59.750 saying, this, it wouldn't look the 01:36:59.750 --> 01:37:04.029 way that it currently does. A counterattack would 01:37:04.029 --> 01:37:06.800 have been a military operation that would have 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:08.859 left a lot of buildings destroyed and a lot of 01:37:08.859 --> 01:37:11.500 people dead but it wouldn't have had this system 01:37:11.500 --> 01:37:15.600 this systemic approach to making sure 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:19.600 that even if the hostilities come to an end there's 01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:23.020 no way for the civilian population to subsist 01:37:23.020 --> 01:37:26.380 much less thrive after the after the ceasing 01:37:26.380 --> 01:37:28.699 of hostilities that's the that's the difference 01:37:28.699 --> 01:37:32.180 right it's we're and 01:37:32.180 --> 01:37:35.600 you rarely see that Like Nazi Germany 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:39.420 did it in Warsaw, but they didn't do it system 01:37:39.420 --> 01:37:42.140 systemically everywhere where they went. They 01:37:42.140 --> 01:37:44.739 wanted the land. But, the Nazis were 01:37:44.739 --> 01:37:47.279 kind of, we'll let a lot of the locals stay 01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:49.979 there. They'll just be living under Nazi control. 01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:52.619 And, we'll let a lot of those buildings 01:37:52.619 --> 01:37:54.460 stay because those are buildings we won't have 01:37:54.460 --> 01:37:59.560 to replace. The fact that the Israelis are willing. 01:37:59.659 --> 01:38:02.180 Even if the Israelis basically. 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.859 Well, they do. They plan to annex Gaza and the 01:38:05.859 --> 01:38:10.250 West Bank entirely. But the thing is, they're 01:38:10.250 --> 01:38:12.970 worried that something might get in the way, 01:38:13.010 --> 01:38:15.909 they'll lose all international support or 01:38:15.909 --> 01:38:20.149 whatever, or the Iranians will finally give them 01:38:20.149 --> 01:38:23.229 the 30 missile attacks that could put an end 01:38:23.229 --> 01:38:26.130 to their system or whatever. So they're desperate. 01:38:27.109 --> 01:38:30.250 They're kind of Hitler's regime in the 01:38:30.250 --> 01:38:32.869 closing days of World War II when they amped 01:38:32.869 --> 01:38:35.210 up the killing rate in the Holocaust as much 01:38:35.210 --> 01:38:37.949 as they could even to the point of depriving 01:38:37.949 --> 01:38:41.010 trains from bringing troops to the eastern front 01:38:41.010 --> 01:38:44.310 to save the regime because they knew oh we're 01:38:44.310 --> 01:38:46.010 only we're only going to have this one last chance 01:38:46.010 --> 01:38:48.329 to kill as many people as we can we've got to 01:38:48.329 --> 01:38:50.689 we got to do it while we can that's what the 01:38:50.689 --> 01:38:53.789 that's what the the Israelis are up to here they're 01:38:53.789 --> 01:38:56.779 we've got to make sure that 01:38:56.800 --> 01:38:59.920 if the clock stops and somehow we're fucked over 01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:03.539 and we can't keep killing and driving, 01:39:03.539 --> 01:39:06.699 Palestinians out of the occupied territories, 01:39:06.939 --> 01:39:10.060 then, they won't be able to live there 01:39:10.060 --> 01:39:13.319 anyway. We've got to make it a fait accompli. 01:39:13.380 --> 01:39:16.300 The facts on the ground. Right. And they come 01:39:16.300 --> 01:39:19.670 across very sadist. It just seems 01:39:19.670 --> 01:39:23.010 they're reveling in misery that they're creating. 01:39:23.109 --> 01:39:26.029 It's not

just killing. It's not just stealing 01:39:26.029 --> 01:39:28.109 the territory. It seems that they get a certain 01:39:28.109 --> 01:39:33.729 amount of, I don't want to say glee, but repulsive 01:39:33.729 --> 01:39:36.350 actions don't seem to deter them. They seem to 01:39:36.350 --> 01:39:39.189 be okay with stuff this. Just basic 01:39:39.189 --> 01:39:41.869 human empathy. Why would I want somebody living 01:39:41.869 --> 01:39:45.850 in sewage? Basic human empathy. Why would I want 01:39:45.850 --> 01:39:48.210 somebody living in an area of tents full of rats? 01:39:49.100 --> 01:39:51.739 And you can make this argument, well, they're 01:39:51.739 --> 01:39:54.880 firing bombs or they're firing rockets or they're 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:56.880 doing whatever. It's, dude, you have put 01:39:57.329 --> 01:40:02.949 people in horrible situations for decades. Those 01:40:02.949 --> 01:40:05.130 people have every right to feel the way that 01:40:05.130 --> 01:40:07.449 they feel. Meaning, I had a conversation with 01:40:07.449 --> 01:40:11.970 Netanyahu's press secretary once. And, 01:40:12.029 --> 01:40:15.250 when you try to put to these people, do 01:40:15.409 --> 01:40:17.170 you realize that you're causing misery and that 01:40:17.170 --> 01:40:19.319 human beings, when they're put in misery, 01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:23.079 respond in very predictable ways, it doesn't 01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:25.159 register. And I don't think it registers because 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:27.600 they don't really care. From them, they have 01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:29.319 political objectives that they want to accomplish. 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:31.460 The political objective is we want to take Gaza. 01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:34.779 That's what we want. Period. I think they actually 01:40:34.779 --> 01:40:38.439 do care, but in a negative way. They want it 01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:41.420 to happen. They want the Palestinians to suffer 01:40:41.420 --> 01:40:44.560 and die. Yes, that's my point. It's not 01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.420 they're merely willing to let it happen to achieve 01:40:48.420 --> 01:40:51.239 their objectives. This is actually, they 01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:53.899 are sadistic. They enjoy it. And you can tell, 01:40:54.180 --> 01:40:56.659 because you can watch any reel that's 01:40:56.659 --> 01:40:59.119 on the internet of all these public 01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:02.300 officials and high ranking media people in Israel 01:41:02.300 --> 01:41:05.199 saying, they're all going to die. They, 01:41:05.319 --> 01:41:06.880 we're going to kill them all. We're 01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:10.720 going to block it. No food, no water. No. Yeah. 01:41:11.180 --> 01:41:14.079 It's all there. Right. And I think that's where 01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:16.859 you're wrong with your analysis. Because earlier 01:41:16.859 --> 01:41:19.100 in the show, you're talking about how this new 01:41:19.100 --> 01:41:21.579 crop of Democrats is coming in. Nothing's going 01:41:21.579 --> 01:41:23.819 to fundamentally change. Well, if nothing's going 01:41:23.819 --> 01:41:25.920 to change, there's absolutely no reason for the 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:28.260 Israelis to be afraid because nothing's going 01:41:28.260 --> 01:41:30.119 to change. The military's been integrated into 01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:32.880 ours. The money's going to keep on flowing. The 01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:34.220 political support's going to keep on coming. 01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:35.720 They're just going to change the bumper sticker 01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:39.319 on the super PAC. Nothing's going to change. 01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:42.890 They're not afraid. They're emboldened. Well, 01:41:42.970 --> 01:41:44.489 the change might actually come from the Republican 01:41:44.489 --> 01:41:46.909 side if it comes. But look, the change has already 01:41:46.909 --> 01:41:49.689 started, right? The $4.5 billion a year is... 01:41:49.909 --> 01:41:53.289 That's a throwaway because you don't need it 01:41:53.289 --> 01:41:55.590 if you're integrated into the American defense 01:41:55.590 --> 01:42:01.220 system. Well, the way they described it was the 01:42:01.220 --> 01:42:02.659 funniest thing in the world. They said, well, 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.539 we have more skepticism of what's going 01:42:06.539 --> 01:42:09.210 to Israel. Because we have a guy, and that guy 01:42:09.210 --> 01:42:11.109 is going to be the intermediary between the U.S. 01:42:11.109 --> 01:42:13.289 and Israel in regards to whatever is going 01:42:13.289 --> 01:42:14.909 to Israel from the standpoint of the weapons 01:42:14.909 --> 01:42:16.850 and everything else. And it's, obviously, 01:42:16.930 --> 01:42:19.529 the guy's going to be a Zionist, right? Meaning 01:42:19.529 --> 01:42:22.270 they will never put a guy in that position that 01:42:22.270 --> 01:42:24.550 is not going to give that weapons and money and 01:42:24.550 --> 01:42:26.430 whatever to Israel. It's just going to be hidden. 01:42:27.569 --> 01:42:30.229 And yeah, if you put in two Zionists for the 01:42:30.229 --> 01:42:33.750 House and the Senate, I expect them to. 100%. 01:42:33.750 --> 01:42:36.739 White T-shirt guy, be a hero, stand up. Sacrifice 01:42:36.739 --> 01:42:40.899 your career on a pyre. Emulate yourself. By the 01:42:40.899 --> 01:42:43.500 way, it may not be a sacrifice. Do it. But it 01:42:43.500 --> 01:42:45.000 may not be a sacrifice. It could be a career 01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:50.220 move. That's my point. They threaten you. We're 01:42:50.220 --> 01:42:53.000 going to primary you in two years. Fine, go ahead. 01:42:53.100 --> 01:42:55.239 If I'm doing the job that my constituents elected 01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:59.239 me to do, why would they then put in a guy who 01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:03.560 you support the dude who I just fired? Call 01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:06.260 him on it. By the way, Thomas Massie said that 01:43:06.260 --> 01:43:09.779 they should put in, what is the guy in Florida?

01:43:10.939 --> 01:43:17.000 DeSantis, Secretary of War. Ron DeSantis? No, 01:43:17.060 --> 01:43:18.760 DeSantis, he's going to run for president in 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:22.159 2028. I think so. Well, he wants to, for sure. 01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:24.899 Oh, he will. It'll come down to him and Rubio. 01:43:25.260 --> 01:43:28.399 Nah, Rubio's not going to be in the race. I think 01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:30.720 it'll be him in advance. I think DeSantis will 01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:34.949 be the vice presidential candidate. Yeah, I can 01:43:34.949 --> 01:43:38.750 see that. Maybe for Rubio. Just a little ad for 01:43:38.750 --> 01:43:42.229 yours truly. Okay, we got everybody on the record. 01:43:42.510 --> 01:43:46.149 I think Vance, you think? Yeah, you got it. So 01:43:46.149 --> 01:43:49.529 today's the release date of my new book, No More 01:43:49.529 --> 01:43:52.710 Mr. Nice Guy. That's from Amazon. It's on Amazon 01:43:52.710 --> 01:43:56.529 right now. 25 bucks. I don't know if you have 01:43:56.529 --> 01:43:59.550 Amazon Prime or not, but go look up Ted Rall, 01:43:59.710 --> 01:44:02.109 No More Mr. Nice Guy. All the details are there. 01:44:02.409 --> 01:44:04.350 I think you can look inside it and blah, blah, 01:44:04.350 --> 01:44:07.270 blah, blah, blah. And please go and buy that. 01:44:07.430 --> 01:44:12.149 It's full color, all cartoons. Yeah. And if you 01:44:12.149 --> 01:44:14.869 want an autographed version from me and you don't 01:44:14.869 --> 01:44:18.390 want to support Jeff Bezos, go to rall.com slash 01:44:18.390 --> 01:44:26.090 books instead. All right. All right. So, yeah. 01:44:26.350 --> 01:44:28.409 Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. So, okay. We're all on 01:44:28.409 --> 01:44:32.390 the record. So Robby is voting. It says Rubio 01:44:32.390 --> 01:44:34.010 will be the nominee. Is that what you're saying? 01:44:34.470 --> 01:44:37.699 I don't know. He's definitely the one. I don't 01:44:37.699 --> 01:44:39.399 know. Well, if it's Rubio, it'll be DeSantis. 01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:41.520 It'll be his veep. Because one of the first things 01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:44.239 that DeSantis did when he signed one of the bills 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:47.720 he signed for in Florida to combat anti-Semitism. 01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.039 Wait, wait, wait. Isn't there some rule that 01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:53.079 they can't both be from Florida under the Constitution? 01:44:53.460 --> 01:44:56.170 They can't both be from the same state? Something 01:44:56.170 --> 01:44:57.470 that. The president and vice president. 01:44:57.750 --> 01:45:00.069 Yeah, I'm not sure. I thought either it was a 01:45:00.069 --> 01:45:03.710 rule or it was just kind of a – I think it's 01:45:03.710 --> 01:45:07.090 actually – I think there's actually a constitutional 01:45:07.090 --> 01:45:11.229 theory why it's not allowed. All you've got to 01:45:11.229 --> 01:45:12.649 do though is change your residency. People 01:45:12.649 --> 01:45:15.050 move around now all

the time. Well, they'd have 01:45:15.050 --> 01:45:17.970 to do it within the next year. How hard is that? 01:45:18.090 --> 01:45:20.029 It fell out of postcard. Well, DeSantis 01:45:20.029 --> 01:45:22.409 isn't moving from Florida. It would have to be 01:45:22.409 --> 01:45:25.029 Rubio. No, but Rubio would be. I guess that's 01:45:25.029 --> 01:45:26.270 the point I'm trying to make, right? But no, 01:45:26.310 --> 01:45:28.569 I think what will happen – They're going to run. 01:45:28.649 --> 01:45:30.949 There'll be a primary. Vance is smoked. No one 01:45:30.949 --> 01:45:33.750 likes him. No one trusts him. Ridiculous. You're 01:45:33.750 --> 01:45:36.010 assuming democracy. You're assuming that who 01:45:36.010 --> 01:45:39.050 people and trust matters. That's not the 01:45:39.050 --> 01:45:41.789 Robby that I know and love. No, Rubio checks 01:45:41.789 --> 01:45:44.489 too many boxes. He's a minority. He's Hispanic. 01:45:44.829 --> 01:45:47.569 He's from Fortress Florida. He's a Zionist. 01:45:47.590 --> 01:45:50.189 And he's a neocon. He has those five things. 01:45:50.609 --> 01:45:55.390 It's going to be Rubio. And how do they sideline 01:45:55.390 --> 01:45:58.680 the sitting vice president? Right. Because, okay, 01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.239 but who's going to vote for J.D. Vance? Doesn't 01:46:01.239 --> 01:46:03.359 matter. You're establishing Republicans. Well, 01:46:03.420 --> 01:46:05.000 there's a, this is not the Democratic 01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:07.859 Party. I think he's a much more, I think Vance 01:46:07.859 --> 01:46:11.060 is a far more formidable personality and candidate 01:46:11.060 --> 01:46:14.640 than you think. I think he's a canny 01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:18.010 motherfucker. But he has no spine. No, 01:46:18.050 --> 01:46:21.489 listen, we've had this debate before. If Vance 01:46:21.489 --> 01:46:23.569 were to come out against the boss saying, no, 01:46:23.569 --> 01:46:26.350 publicly saying, Mr. Trump, you are making a 01:46:26.350 --> 01:46:31.130 mistake here. He would have won the faction that 01:46:31.130 --> 01:46:35.350 defected. And Robby, if my cat starts barking, 01:46:37.329 --> 01:46:40.609 he'd be a dog. But the Vice President of the 01:46:40.609 --> 01:46:44.590 United States cannot and will not do that. But 01:46:44.590 --> 01:46:46.949 that's my point. He even came out claiming the 01:46:46.949 --> 01:46:49.090 war was responsible for what they lost. I was 01:46:49.090 --> 01:46:51.310 shocked by that. Day late and a dollar short. 01:46:51.430 --> 01:46:54.229 Who the hell cares? No, no, I accept that. People 01:46:54.229 --> 01:46:57.819 care. A lot of people care. He's responding 01:46:57.819 --> 01:47:01.220 to real war phenomena. And by the way, Kamala 01:47:01.220 --> 01:47:02.979 Harris wouldn't even do it. Kamala Harris wouldn't 01:47:02.979 --> 01:47:07.100 even do this shit. She was in an unpopular war, 01:47:07.199 --> 01:47:09.279 Joe Biden. It was understood that it 01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:10.260 was an unpopular war. She hasn't even said it 01:47:10.260 --> 01:47:11.979 this week. She could have said it this week. 01:47:12.140 --> 01:47:16.720 Here's a good way to think about it. Here's a 01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:20.899 good way to think about it. Was it Woodward? 01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:25.180 The NBC anchor who we've had on here a couple 01:47:25.180 --> 01:47:28.369 of times. He wrote the book about Biden. Oh, 01:47:28.470 --> 01:47:33.270 Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper. Thank you. So he wrote 01:47:33.270 --> 01:47:36.670 that book. CNN. Blowing the whistle about Joe 01:47:36.670 --> 01:47:39.289 Biden being demented after he's out of office. 01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:43.260 And by the way, after he attacked Republicans. 01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:47.239 In fairness, I asked him that question, if you'll 01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:50.399 recall, and he did. And his answer was it was 01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:53.420 a good answer. His answer is I was reaching out 01:47:53.420 --> 01:47:56.020 to all sorts of people during Biden's administration 01:47:56.020 --> 01:47:58.770 and they wouldn't talk to me. I needed people 01:47:58.770 --> 01:48:01.909 to go on the record and talk to me either either 01:48:01.909 --> 01:48:05.689 anonymously or not. And they wouldn't talk to 01:48:05.689 --> 01:48:08.829 me until after the election. And that tells you 01:48:08.829 --> 01:48:12.029 everything you need to know and tell. You could 01:48:12.029 --> 01:48:14.590 look at him. Sure. But that was not the book. 01:48:14.630 --> 01:48:16.649 That's not the book. That's the book that I might 01:48:16.649 --> 01:48:18.750 have written. But the premise I'm trying to make 01:48:18.750 --> 01:48:21.609 is, is that J.D. Vance did the same thing that 01:48:21.609 --> 01:48:24.979 Jake Tapper did. So after the fact, when there's 01:48:24.979 --> 01:48:28.579 no cost to be paid, and then you go and you try 01:48:28.579 --> 01:48:30.699 to get your penalty. Oh, it's beneficial to create 01:48:30.699 --> 01:48:34.439 some shade, some daylight between him and a very 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:37.920 unpopular rebuked president. Right, two years. 01:48:38.380 --> 01:48:40.439 Jamarl and I had the same exact thought independently, 01:48:40.619 --> 01:48:43.180 as you guys know. Last week, we talked about 01:48:43.180 --> 01:48:45.640 it. We came to the same exact conclusion that 01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:50.579 this was a brilliant move that Donald and J.D. 01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:53.579 worked out behind the scenes. Put Robby down 01:48:53.579 --> 01:48:59.199 for Rubio and DeSantis. That's my prediction. 01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:02.659 Rubio and DeSantis. For me, it's Vance and DeSantis. 01:49:02.739 --> 01:49:07.579 Vance and DeSantis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go 01:49:07.579 --> 01:49:10.380 for the Democratic side. Robby, who do you say 01:49:10.380 --> 01:49:12.520 is going to be the Democratic nominee? I say 01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:15.000 it's going to be Buttigieg, and I'm

not sure 01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:18.489 about the vice president. I think for I think 01:49:18.489 --> 01:49:21.529 for Newsom, maybe I think the Democrats, I think 01:49:21.529 --> 01:49:24.090 it'll be it'll it'll be Newsom. Oh, no, no. It'll 01:49:24.090 --> 01:49:28.130 be Bashar. It'll be Andy Beshear as the Veep. 01:49:29.380 --> 01:49:33.380 I don't know who the people be, but I think that 01:49:33.380 --> 01:49:37.619 it'll be Gavin Newsom as the as the head of the 01:49:37.619 --> 01:49:40.390 ticket. He ran the largest state, one of the 01:49:40.390 --> 01:49:42.569 largest companies in the world. And he's been 01:49:42.569 --> 01:49:45.210 wanting to do it for years. He's handsome. He's 01:49:45.210 --> 01:49:49.550 good looking. He has that hair. And a lot of 01:49:49.550 --> 01:49:53.470 your low IQ hair gel people are going, oh, my 01:49:53.470 --> 01:49:54.890 God, look how handsome he is. I'm going to vote 01:49:54.890 --> 01:49:56.510 for him. Never mind the fact that he has zombies. 01:49:56.510 --> 01:49:58.590 Hey, that's what I was counting for for my run 01:49:58.590 --> 01:50:03.770 for presidency. I think, yeah, I think it's going 01:50:03.770 --> 01:50:05.890 to be, yeah, it'll be, it'll be Buttigieg. I've 01:50:05.890 --> 01:50:07.970 talked about it before. Why I think it's by process 01:50:07.970 --> 01:50:10.729 of elimination. It's not Gavin Newsom because 01:50:10.729 --> 01:50:13.210 he's the governor of California and California 01:50:13.210 --> 01:50:17.430 is associated with dysfunction. So that's simple. 01:50:17.510 --> 01:50:22.369 It's simply that. So Buttigieg. I think Robby's 01:50:22.369 --> 01:50:24.789 right. I think it's Newsom. It could easily, 01:50:25.069 --> 01:50:26.810 you guys could totally. I just can't think of 01:50:26.810 --> 01:50:28.390 anybody else. It could be a dark horse. 01:50:28.850 --> 01:50:32.460 Buttigieg. Mayor Pete. I just don't buy Buttigieg. 01:50:32.939 --> 01:50:36.140 I don't think he has legs. Okay. What about, 01:50:36.220 --> 01:50:41.560 and for Veep? See, I don't know. So I'm going 01:50:41.560 --> 01:50:45.039 to say if it's, so I say it's, to balance out 01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:47.399 a Buttigieg ticket, you're going to get another 01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:50.880 dude, a straight dude. But if you're balancing 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:54.079 out a Gavin Newsom ticket, who is a straight 01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:57.500 dude. It'll be AOC. No, she's too young. I don't 01:50:57.500 --> 01:50:59.649 think she's even running. She's not running she 01:50:59.649 --> 01:51:02.170 should be over 35 right now it'll be Big Gretch 01:51:02.170 --> 01:51:06.770 it'll be Gretchen Whitmer as the veep running 01:51:06.770 --> 01:51:10.090 I can see her trying oh she's interested for 01:51:10.090 --> 01:51:12.369 sure I think she'll run but she'll be running 01:51:12.369 --> 01:51:14.630 for veep what I how some candidates 01:51:14.630 --> 01:51:17.649 run as president for veep yeah I was running 01:51:17.649 --> 01:51:20.729 for veep yeah for the Dems for for their for 01:51:20.729 --> 01:51:24.470 their veep I'm not I really I'm not sure, it's 01:51:24.470 --> 01:51:27.350 too fluid. AOC though checks all the boxes. She's 01:51:27.350 --> 01:51:30.130 young, she's good looking. Too young. She's Latina. 01:51:30.149 --> 01:51:32.789 If she's over 35, she can serve. She's too controversial 01:51:32.789 --> 01:51:38.710 too. Compared to what? Not to be. The 01:51:38.710 --> 01:51:41.850 Democrats missed the vote because they might 01:51:41.850 --> 01:51:45.090 have had a cold. Republicans have characterized 01:51:45.090 --> 01:51:48.130 her as America's Rosa Luxemburg. The Republicans 01:51:48.130 --> 01:51:50.489 just got shown the door, Ted. Who the flying 01:51:50.489 --> 01:51:53.369 fuck cares what they say? Yeah but they well 01:51:53.369 --> 01:51:55.369 they're good they have all that Israeli money 01:51:55.369 --> 01:52:00.289 that they consider yeah that's true all right 01:52:00.289 --> 01:52:02.369 we got we got more to talk about here that'll 01:52:02.369 --> 01:52:05.189 be AOC and if she starts listen if she starts 01:52:05.189 --> 01:52:08.670 doing calendar pinups it'll be AOC you're in 01:52:08.670 --> 01:52:14.930 okay okay so ICE ICE basically when you 01:52:14.930 --> 01:52:18.640 are arrested by a federal law enforcement agency, 01:52:18.899 --> 01:52:22.000 including ICE, your name goes into a database. 01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:24.760 And if people are, oh, hey, where's Ted 01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:28.319 Rall? They could type in your name and it should 01:52:28.319 --> 01:52:31.779 say, Ted Rall is currently being tortured at 01:52:31.779 --> 01:52:36.560 the torture facility Gulag in South Florida. 01:52:37.130 --> 01:52:39.470 And so you and then you're, and that may 01:52:39.470 --> 01:52:41.310 or may not be true because it may already be 01:52:41.310 --> 01:52:43.090 gone and sent to the Central African Republic 01:52:43.090 --> 01:52:44.869 or not. You may have been thrown out of a plane. 01:52:44.989 --> 01:52:47.590 Who knows? But theoretically, you're there. And 01:52:47.590 --> 01:52:51.050 then you're my lawyer, Ron Kuby, I'm looking 01:52:51.050 --> 01:52:53.970 at you can reach out and and try to get 01:52:53.970 --> 01:52:57.649 my ass out. Right. But it's been it's been revealed 01:52:57.649 --> 01:53:02.130 now that. Even some prominent victims, they've 01:53:02.130 --> 01:53:05.189 changed their policy at ICE. And so now if you 01:53:05.189 --> 01:53:08.289 have what they call a final deportation order, 01:53:08.510 --> 01:53:11.189 they delete you from the system, even though 01:53:11.189 --> 01:53:14.289 you're still in the United States and some gulag, 01:53:14.310 --> 01:53:18.689 and there's no way for you to be found. And since 01:53:18.689 --> 01:53:20.949 there's no way for you to be found, you can't 01:53:20.949 --> 01:53:24.270 get money for to make phone calls so that you 01:53:24.270

--> 01:53:26.609 can call, your lawyer or a family member 01:53:26.609 --> 01:53:30.289 and say, hey, I'm at this place. I'm in, 01:53:30.289 --> 01:53:34.710 I'm in Ron DeSantis' Alligator Alcatraz. 01:53:35.050 --> 01:53:37.149 Please, get a lawyer to come get me 01:53:37.149 --> 01:53:39.470 out. You have no way. You've been disappeared 01:53:39.470 --> 01:53:43.729 into the gulag archipelago of the American immigration 01:53:43.729 --> 01:53:47.310 deportation detention system. It's. 01:53:47.670 --> 01:53:50.109 Is this the United States or is it Chile under 01:53:50.109 --> 01:53:52.890 Pinochet where they take you out in a helicopter 01:53:52.890 --> 01:53:57.489 and throw you into the sea? I just thought 01:53:57.489 --> 01:53:59.890 it was worth noting that this is really fucked 01:53:59.890 --> 01:54:03.850 up and strange. These are black sites, basically. 01:54:06.229 --> 01:54:08.050 That's what they are. They're black sites. I 01:54:08.050 --> 01:54:10.529 call it what it is. You have people, 01:54:10.590 --> 01:54:12.310 the moment that somebody has disappeared, 01:54:12.390 --> 01:54:13.770 you have no idea what's happened to the person. 01:54:13.909 --> 01:54:15.539 You don't know where they are. Don't know what's 01:54:15.539 --> 01:54:17.939 going on and any kind of legal protections that 01:54:17.939 --> 01:54:20.039 the person had immediately go out the window 01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:22.939 it's amazing that that's even legal in the 01:54:22.939 --> 01:54:25.979 U.S. but one they've been the fact that they 01:54:25.979 --> 01:54:28.199 have been very dodgy about following the laws 01:54:28.199 --> 01:54:30.380 in general should make people very dodgy about 01:54:30.380 --> 01:54:32.319 the fact of them disappearing people in black 01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:37.329 sites that's terrifying that's utterly terrifying 01:54:37.329 --> 01:54:39.449 because they can do this to Americans 01:54:39.449 --> 01:54:42.880 too right They can do it to anybody. I'm 01:54:42.880 --> 01:54:44.800 not sure there's a legal guarantee that they 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:47.100 have to do this. I think it's kind of a 01:54:47.100 --> 01:54:51.899 courtesy that they do this to make it easier 01:54:51.899 --> 01:54:54.500 for people to reach the outside world. I'm not 01:54:54.500 --> 01:54:56.840 sure there's a federal law that says you have 01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:00.479 a right to be found. Well, it looks you 01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:03.329 have a right to a phone call. You have a right 01:55:03.329 --> 01:55:07.329 to due process. Yeah, but when you're being held 01:55:07.329 --> 01:55:11.079 by ICE, you're technically not. You're in an 01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:14.340 administrative removal process you're not part 01:55:14.340 --> 01:55:16.460 of you're not in the criminal justice system 01:55:16.460 --> 01:55:19.000 so you don't have the same protections but you 01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:20.279 still should have due process you could still 01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:22.340 have habeas rights though right I I 01:55:22.340 --> 01:55:24.279 even if you're let's say you're here illegally 01:55:24.279 --> 01:55:26.479 let's say you're here completely illegal you 01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:28.119 have no right to be in the country completely 01:55:28.119 --> 01:55:30.779 legal sure you still have the right to due process 01:55:30.779 --> 01:55:34.300 it's the caring part that that gets me it's 01:55:34.300 --> 01:55:36.140 what yeah look if you're getting deported you're 01:55:36.140 --> 01:55:38.449 getting deported is what it is and why are they 01:55:38.449 --> 01:55:40.649 disappearing you it's obviously not for any because 01:55:40.649 --> 01:55:44.489 they're up to any good right let me because otherwise 01:55:44.489 --> 01:55:48.979 why do you need to do this if the person 01:55:48.979 --> 01:55:51.380 is they're isolating you so that you don't have 01:55:51.380 --> 01:55:54.399 any ability to resist if they're torturing 01:55:54.399 --> 01:55:56.539 you or whatever you have no way of saying anything 01:55:56.539 --> 01:55:58.840 and you have no legal protections at that point 01:55:58.840 --> 01:56:01.130 how do how do I contact my lawyer How 01:56:01.130 --> 01:56:02.930 do I contact my wife? How do I contact my wife? 01:56:02.930 --> 01:56:05.010 And they could, and they've already swept U.S. 01:56:05.010 --> 01:56:08.250 citizens into these ICE systems. So you could, 01:56:08.310 --> 01:56:11.109 as a U.S. citizen, be swept up by ICE, sent 01:56:11.109 --> 01:56:13.390 to one of these gulags, be disappeared from the 01:56:13.390 --> 01:56:16.170 system, have no ability to contact anyone. And 01:56:16.170 --> 01:56:19.189 they could kill you. And there's no one would 01:56:19.189 --> 01:56:22.939 ever know. This isn't even legal. That's 01:56:22.939 --> 01:56:24.619 astonishing, that's so, that they're able to 01:56:24.619 --> 01:56:27.220 even do that. If somebody has due protections, 01:56:27.420 --> 01:56:28.899 looks they would be able to contact their 01:56:28.899 --> 01:56:30.899 lawyer. Looks they would be able to contact 01:56:30.939 --> 01:56:32.819 somebody in the outside world to let them know 01:56:32.819 --> 01:56:34.640 what happened. Imagine them picking some 01:56:34.640 --> 01:56:36.680 random person up at Taco Bell on the way back 01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:40.460 home, and they never get back home. Yeah. And 01:56:40.460 --> 01:56:43.039 nobody knows, right? Yeah, daddy went out for 01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:46.560 a pack of cigarettes. Daddy's in El Salvador 01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.680 in prison, despite the fact that he's Guatemalan. 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:52.319 Right? It's insane stuff. No, 01:56:52.380 --> 01:56:54.159 that's insane. That's outrageous. It's shocking. 01:56:55.060 --> 01:56:57.779 It amazes me that this stuff is illegal. Well, 01:56:57.800 --> 01:57:01.000 there is a lawsuit. A group called the American 01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.220 Immigration Lawyers Association

filed a lawsuit 01:57:04.220 --> 01:57:07.880 saying that it violates your due process rights 01:57:07.880 --> 01:57:11.819 under the U.S. Constitution. And the government 01:57:11.819 --> 01:57:15.680 says that these people have already completed 01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:18.159 their standard immigration court proceedings, 01:57:18.260 --> 01:57:22.140 and therefore they have broad statutory authority 01:57:22.140 --> 01:57:27.880 to manage those removals. And once the due process 01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:31.699 is completed after the court proceedings are 01:57:31.699 --> 01:57:34.979 over. But that's nonsense because court proceedings 01:57:34.979 --> 01:57:39.939 can be appealed. Right. Exactly. Yeah. 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.640 The due process should be something that's available 01:57:42.640 --> 01:57:45.279 to you in perpetuity as long as you're living 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:48.670 and breathing. Right. Agreed. This idea 01:57:48.670 --> 01:57:50.789 that you can just keep somebody in a black site 01:57:50.789 --> 01:57:52.729 because you're trying to evade the court systems 01:57:52.729 --> 01:57:55.649 or something that. It's just insane. It 01:57:55.649 --> 01:57:59.069 is. We have a court system for a reason. 01:57:59.350 --> 01:58:03.069 It's because if the cops could fuck it up, they 01:58:03.069 --> 01:58:06.850 could get it wrong. Shocking. As we well know. 01:58:07.689 --> 01:58:12.470 The court system is the backstop. That's what 01:58:12.470 --> 01:58:14.369 I mean. This is the issue with the black site 01:58:14.369 --> 01:58:17.970 stuff. People have due process. If the courts 01:58:17.970 --> 01:58:19.789 agree to send the people home, then fair enough, 01:58:19.890 --> 01:58:21.989 wherever the country. But they still have 01:58:21.989 --> 01:58:24.550 that court that the cops have to go through. 01:58:24.890 --> 01:58:26.770 Or ICE agents have to go through. No, I agree 01:58:26.770 --> 01:58:29.390 with you. That's crazy. Yeah, I have no idea 01:58:29.390 --> 01:58:31.430 how ultimately the Supreme Court will come down 01:58:31.430 --> 01:58:36.229 on this. But I'm always worried when, 01:58:36.289 --> 01:58:39.489 you trust this Supreme Court to stand up for 01:58:39.489 --> 01:58:42.289 individual rights against government discretion, 01:58:42.569 --> 01:58:46.229 which always tends to prevail. Yes. Yeah, agreed. 01:58:46.729 --> 01:58:49.229 So they tend to take the worst thing. I 01:58:49.229 --> 01:58:52.390 this is Stasi stuff, right? Totally, 01:58:52.390 --> 01:58:56.510 totally disgusting. All right. Well, I guess 01:58:56.510 --> 01:58:59.829 that does it for today. We appreciate you tagging 01:58:59.829 --> 01:59:02.449 along for the ride. We'll be back tomorrow. That's 01:59:02.449 --> 01:59:04.970 Thursday morning, 9 a.m. Eastern time to 10 01:59:04.970 --> 01:59:07.989 a.m. Eastern time. TMI, I'll be back tomorrow 01:59:07.989 --> 01:59:11.250 as well. Thanks, Jamarl. Thanks, Robby. See you 01:59:11.250 --> 01:59:12.609 tomorrow. Have a good one, guys.