บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Dan Levy

00:03:32.659 You say, I understand you work hard. 85 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:32.919 Yes. 86 00:03:32.979 --> 00:03:36.620 But you're not, you're not a serious person. Like I walked, 87 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:37.020 excuse me. 88 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:38.539 I'm very serious. 89 00:03:38.580 --> 00:03:42.360 No, I walked into the Oscar rehearsal and you asked 90 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:44.840 everybody there if they all smell garlic. 91 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:46.919 You said that. 92 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.659 To a room full of people I've never met before. 93 00:03:50.259 --> 00:03:52.599 Hey, he's like, hey, what's that smell? Is that garlic? 94 00:03:52.659 --> 00:03:53.389 And you looked over at me. 95 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:53.759 You know what? 96 00:03:53.979 --> 00:03:56.000 It killed with all the seat fillers. 97 00:03:56.020 --> 00:04:01.949 They love my riffs about you. Anyway, let's get back 98 00:04:01.990 --> 00:04:04.629 to you and how you failed me. So you got 99 00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:07.389 him to watch. So you watched 14 seasons of Grey's Anatomy. Well, 100 00:04:07.409 --> 00:04:07.870 guess what? 101 00:04:08.229 --> 00:04:11.550 You have like 35 more seasons to go. Isn't that incredible? 102 00:04:11.789 --> 00:04:13.770 Well, how do you think this show will end? There's 103 00:04:13.810 --> 00:04:18.579 a theory that when Grey's Anatomy does end, humanity will end. 104 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.660 I thought maybe you were going to have a real 105 00:04:20.699 --> 00:04:21.519 theory there. 106 00:04:21.579 --> 00:04:25.120 No, there's a theory that it's been around as long 107 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.319 as Earth has been orbiting the sun. 108 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:27.639 Sure. 109 00:04:27.790 --> 00:04:29.790 I know you think the sun orbits the Earth, but 110 00:04:29.810 --> 00:04:33.689 that's not the case. It's insane how long it's been going. 111 00:04:33.769 --> 00:04:34.149 I know. 112 00:04:34.209 --> 00:04:36.689 Isn't it incredible? I mean, as long as Meredith Gray 113 00:04:36.709 --> 00:04:38.480 is on our TV, what else could we want? 114 00:04:38.750 --> 00:04:39.680 Which one is Meredith Gray? 115 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:40.379 Ellen Pompeo. 116 00:04:40.540 --> 00:04:40.779 Okay. 117 00:04:41.790 --> 00:04:44.009 And they're still doctors. Has the show morphed into now 118 00:04:44.029 --> 00:04:46.050 they live in a treehouse or something? A lot of 119 00:04:46.069 --> 00:04:47.949 shows that have been on that long morph and now 120 00:04:47.990 --> 00:04:50.050 they live on a dude ranch and they're not doctors. 121 00:04:50.110 --> 00:04:50.709 Is that happening? 122 00:04:50.750 --> 00:04:53.449 No, but the amount of like just natural disasters and 123 00:04:53.550 --> 00:04:54.310 awful things that. 124 00:04:54.230 --> 00:04:56.490 Happen in the hospital. What kind of stuff happens? 125 00:04:56.509 --> 00:04:59.129 Like there's a whole really intense shooter episode. There's a 126 00:04:59.189 -->

00:05:00.230 plane crash episode. 127 00:05:00.250 --> 00:05:01.800 Wait, a plane crashes into the hospital? 128 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:03.660 Not into the hospital. All the doctors are on a 129 00:05:03.689 --> 00:05:04.879 plane and the plane crashes. 130 00:05:04.899 --> 00:05:06.319 Well, what are the odds of that? 131 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:07.160 I know. 132 00:05:07.180 --> 00:05:07.860 Mm hmm. 133 00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:11.410 There's a fairy episode where they, like, all start to drown. 134 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:13.879 What? All of them are on a fairy, so. 135 00:05:14.339 --> 00:05:17.579 The doctors from the hospital all said, let's take a ferry. 136 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.500 And then it's the first ferry that's gone under. 137 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.079 And that's an early one. Okay. 138 00:05:21.100 --> 00:05:21.600 Yeah. 139 00:05:21.740 --> 00:05:22.019 All right. 140 00:05:22.060 --> 00:05:22.800 So, yeah. 141 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:24.699 Well, the important thing is it seems to bring people 142 00:05:24.730 --> 00:05:26.110 a lot of joy. I'm trying to make this a 143 00:05:26.149 --> 00:05:26.769 positive thing. 144 00:05:26.810 --> 00:05:27.149 Yeah. 145 00:05:27.189 --> 00:05:29.110 And I know I came across a little bit when 146 00:05:29.149 --> 00:05:31.250 I started out as like, how could Grey's Anatomy still 147 00:05:31.269 --> 00:05:31.670 be going? 148 00:05:31.689 --> 00:05:33.509 I said the same thing. But that's a terrible attitude 149 00:05:33.529 --> 00:05:34.290 for anyone to have. 150 00:05:34.370 --> 00:05:35.490 No, I said the same thing. 151 00:05:35.610 --> 00:05:37.509 I also watched it when it first came out and 152 00:05:37.540 --> 00:05:40.439 they lost me when they blew up Kyle Chandler. That's 153 00:05:40.459 --> 00:05:41.639 when I was like, I'm out. 154 00:05:41.699 --> 00:05:44.930 I can't do this. With a bomb. What? 155 00:05:44.949 --> 00:05:46.939 They blew him up with a bomb. Okay, but give 156 00:05:46.980 --> 00:05:49.680 me the context. When you said blow up, I assumed 157 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.160 it was some kind of explosive. Don't just say there 158 00:05:52.180 --> 00:05:52.879 was a bomb. 159 00:05:53.259 --> 00:05:53.910 How did they blow him up? 160 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:55.500 They blew him up with a bomb. 161 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:57.750 How did Kyle Chandler blow up? 162 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.319 There was an explosive in a person that they found 163 00:06:01.370 --> 00:06:02.319 during surgery. 164 00:06:03.250 --> 00:06:07.009 Why would a person have a bomb in their body 165 00:06:07.129 --> 00:06:08.610 and then check themselves into the hospital? 166 00:06:08.810 --> 00:06:09.209 Answer that. 167 00:06:10.110 --> 00:06:11.170 David, do you remember? 168 00:06:11.189 --> 00:06:12.189 I don't remember. 169 00:06:12.209 --> 00:06:14.550 No, the person needed surgery. You just have to go 170 00:06:14.569 --> 00:06:14.759 with it. 171 00:06:14.769 --> 00:06:15.850 The person needed surgery. 172 00:06:15.870 --> 00:06:16.709 The person needed surgery. 173 00:06:16.730 --> 00:06:18.550 And the person didn't know that three years earlier he 174 00:06:18.569 --> 00:06:22.939 had swallowed a caramel-covered bomb that was stuck in his rectum? 175 00:06:24.009 --> 00:06:25.269 I'm just, explain this to me. 176 00:06:25.649 --> 00:06:28.310 So they're doing the surgery and then the girl feels 177 00:06:28.389 --> 00:06:30.550 something and then they're like, oh my God, it's a bomb. 178 00:06:30.569 --> 00:06:31.350 You have to stay still. 179 00:06:31.389 --> 00:06:33.470 So she just had to stay there with her finger 180 00:06:33.629 --> 00:06:35.930 on the bomb so it wouldn't go off. And then 181 00:06:35.949 --> 00:06:38.829 they called the bomb squad and then the bomb squad 182 00:06:39.300 --> 00:06:43.459 got everybody safe. And then while he's walking away with 183 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.579 the bomb in his hand, all like quietly. 184 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:46.160 Who's he? 185 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:47.519 Kyle Chandler. 186 00:06:47.579 --> 00:06:48.519 He's on the bomb squad. 187 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:49.220 Yes. 188 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.660 Oh, I thought he was a doctor and they handed him. 189 00:06:51.779 --> 00:06:54.230 No, he's up. He's on the bomb squad. 190 00:06:54.310 --> 00:06:54.620 OK. 191 00:06:54.810 --> 00:06:57.750 And we're like, oh, my God, everyone's clear. He's walking away. 192 00:06:57.810 --> 00:06:59.769 And then as he's walking away, it just explodes. 193 00:06:59.810 --> 00:07:01.910 Do they cut to shoes that are empty, but they're smoking? 194 00:07:03.709 --> 00:07:04.810 It's not a cartoon. 195 00:07:05.209 --> 00:07:07.410 I wish it was a cartoon. And guess what? It 196 00:07:07.449 --> 00:07:08.449 sounds like a cartoon. 197 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.160 So someone checked in for surgery, had a bomb in 198 00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:12.379 them that they didn't know they had. 199 00:07:12.540 --> 00:07:12.819 Yes. 200 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.579 They call in the bomb squad. And who's in the 201 00:07:14.620 --> 00:07:18.459 bomb squad? Kyle Chandler, coach from Friday Night Lights. And 202 00:07:18.490 --> 00:07:21.529 he says, I'm an expert on bombs. Well, I think 203 00:07:21.569 --> 00:07:24.490 I'll take this with me home. I'll just go jogging 204 00:07:24.550 --> 00:07:28.490 home now. Who walks away with a bomb? You know, 205 00:07:28.550 --> 00:07:29.110 I'm sorry. 206 00:07:29.129 --> 00:07:33.389 I don't mean to neg on this wonderful show that 207 00:07:33.430 --> 00:07:34.069 people really like. 208 00:07:34.110 --> 00:07:35.970 Oh, there's a great musical episode too. 209 00:07:36.029 --> 00:07:37.610 No, there isn't. There's no way there's a musical episode. 210 00:07:37.629 --> 00:07:40.870 They're around a table doing surgery while singing How to 211 00:07:40.910 --> 00:07:43.560 Save a Life by The Fray. Okay. 212 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:44.540 And they

find a bomb. 213 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.740 I feel something hard. Oh my God, it's a bomb. 214 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:52.810 We better get Carl Chandler. Oh no, he blew up. 215 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.220 I just sneezed because I'm allergic to bad plots. How 216 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.800 do they break a story on that show? How does 217 00:07:59.819 --> 00:08:01.720 the writer's room say, I've got it. There's a bomb 218 00:08:01.740 --> 00:08:02.339 in this patient. 219 00:08:02.420 --> 00:08:02.720 Why? 220 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:03.779 Don't worry about it. 221 00:08:03.779 --> 00:08:06.220 I don't know. 222 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:09.319 Okay, listen. To all you fans of, what's it called again? 223 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:10.439 Grey's Anatomy. 224 00:08:10.459 --> 00:08:13.750 Grey's Anatomy, season 77. Remember the first season? That was 225 00:08:13.790 --> 00:08:17.509 a good one when President Hoover stopped by. And he said, 226 00:08:17.529 --> 00:08:19.870 I think there's a depression coming. And by the way, 227 00:08:19.889 --> 00:08:21.310 I think I have a bomb in my colon. 228 00:08:25.209 --> 00:08:25.410 All right. 229 00:08:26.430 --> 00:08:27.110 Well, guess what? 230 00:08:27.370 --> 00:08:30.529 My guest today, and there's no transition here. 231 00:08:30.550 --> 00:08:31.110 No. 232 00:08:31.350 --> 00:08:34.379 My guest today is an Emmy Award-winning actor, director, and writer, 233 00:08:34.529 --> 00:08:37.240 a real writer, who starred as David Rose in the 234 00:08:37.259 --> 00:08:38.580 hilarious series Schitt's Creek. 235 00:08:38.820 --> 00:08:40.779 Now you can see him in the new Netflix show, 236 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:45.919 Big Mistakes. Very, very happy this gentleman is with us today. 237 00:08:50.970 --> 00:08:57.029 Dan Levy, welcome. I'm gonna say one thing up front. 238 00:08:57.049 --> 00:09:00.629 It's not what we're gonna talk about initially, but David, 239 00:09:00.870 --> 00:09:05.940 my assistant here, he downloaded, we were sent a few 240 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.980 of your episodes of your new show, Big Mistakes, and 241 00:09:10.419 --> 00:09:13.600 we watched a couple of them yesterday, and I was immediately, 242 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.269 every time we finished one, I'd go like, another one. 243 00:09:16.289 --> 00:09:17.789 I'd be like, next. 244 00:09:18.129 --> 00:09:21.389 I mean, my job is I maybe watch the first one, 245 00:09:21.409 --> 00:09:24.570 and then, yeah, I was like, next, next, and I 246 00:09:24.570 --> 00:09:26.830 was like, The hamster with the cocaine palette. 247 00:09:26.889 --> 00:09:27.250 I love that. 248 00:09:27.269 --> 00:09:28.669 I just kept it in the office when we were done. 249 00:09:28.690 --> 00:09:29.409 No, I just wanted more. 250 00:09:29.429 --> 00:09:31.669 That's what we're hoping for, so that's a good sign. 251 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.720 No, you are, yes, you want me to be a 252 00:09:33.779 --> 00:09:36.600 rat and addicted to cocaine. All of the above. 253 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.639 It's really funny, and we will talk about that in 254 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.110 a bit, but I'm... So happy because I'm a massive 255 00:09:43.419 --> 00:09:46.429 Schitt's Creek fan, as we all are. And then when 256 00:09:46.509 --> 00:09:49.629 I heard that you were up to something, another series, I. 257 00:09:49.629 --> 00:09:54.129 Was very excited. Prepared to be disappointed. 258 00:09:54.289 --> 00:09:54.610 Yeah. 259 00:09:55.110 --> 00:09:56.629 I love how your mind works because that's how my 260 00:09:56.669 --> 00:09:57.090 mind works. 261 00:09:57.100 --> 00:09:57.340 Exactly. 262 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:01.200 So I was disappointed. That's right. Certain that you would die. Wait, what? 263 00:10:01.470 --> 00:10:01.750 No. 264 00:10:02.309 --> 00:10:04.789 Oh my God. 265 00:10:04.909 --> 00:10:06.850 Expecting the worst. Expecting the worst. 266 00:10:06.909 --> 00:10:07.210 Sure. 267 00:10:08.029 --> 00:10:09.669 And it delivered across the board. 268 00:10:10.340 --> 00:10:13.179 Oh my God, what a tragedy and what a travesty. 269 00:10:13.539 --> 00:10:17.860 No, I'm so glad that you are back making more 270 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.830 ridiculous fun and you're so good at it. 271 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.279 Thanks. And just thrilled to have you here. 272 00:10:24.299 --> 00:10:25.360 I'm so happy to be here. 273 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:27.240 I saw you recently, not to bring the room down, 274 00:10:27.259 --> 00:10:28.940 but I saw you very recently at a very sad 275 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:34.200 event that was also uplifting, which was Catherine O'Hara's, you know, 276 00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:35.899 the gathering for Catherine. 277 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:36.259 That's right. 278 00:10:36.500 --> 00:10:38.919 And I want to offer my condolences to you because- 279 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.240 we all lost this amazing person in Catherine and, but 280 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.299 you had this relationship that's probably gone on your whole 281 00:10:46.340 --> 00:10:47.460 life with Catherine. 282 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:49.200 I mean, you made this incredible role. 283 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.470 For her and Schitt's Creek, but all of us, that's 284 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:55.169 one of just one of those losses that I still 285 00:10:55.210 --> 00:10:56.809 can't quite fit into my head. 286 00:10:57.309 --> 00:11:00.590 And the crazy thing about it is that I'm still like, 287 00:11:01.149 --> 00:11:03.470 you know, I go on Instagram and her face is 288 00:11:03.529 --> 00:11:07.049 there and Moira's clips from the show are all over 289 00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:10.639 the place. And it's, And every time I see her, 290 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.720 even though I wrote the thing, I stop and I watch. 291 00:11:15.179 --> 00:11:18.070 And I'm watching not for anything that I did, but 292 00:11:18.769 --> 00:11:22.190 I'm watching because she is impossible not to watch. And 293

00:11:22.230 --> 00:11:26.049 she's impossible not to love. And it's impossible not to 294 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.120 laugh with her. in anything she does. And it's, it 295 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.379 is like an unimaginable loss. Yeah. Yeah. No, she was just, 296 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.159 you could irreplaceable talent and an irreplaceable person. 297 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:39.620 Really? 298 00:11:40.049 --> 00:11:47.029 Uh, I may have mentioned this, but at the SNL 50th, um, it's, 299 00:11:47.350 --> 00:11:49.590 it felt totally arbitrary to me unless they were just 300 00:11:49.629 --> 00:11:52.500 had an Irish section, but I showed up and they 301 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:55.440 gave me my seat and I sit down and then, 302 00:11:56.259 --> 00:11:58.679 There's an empty seat next to me. And then who's 303 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:00.580 assigned there? But it's Catherine O'Hara. And I had the 304 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:02.740 time of my life with her. 305 00:12:02.980 --> 00:12:04.259 She's the greatest company. 306 00:12:04.419 --> 00:12:04.659 Yes. 307 00:12:04.700 --> 00:12:08.350 She's the greatest seatmate. Yeah. She's the greatest dinner companion. 308 00:12:08.590 --> 00:12:08.809 Yeah. 309 00:12:08.970 --> 00:12:11.070 She was the greatest conversationalist. 310 00:12:11.129 --> 00:12:11.370 Yeah. 311 00:12:11.590 --> 00:12:17.509 She was endlessly curious and humble and deeply, deeply funny. 312 00:12:17.789 --> 00:12:22.340 Also, she has this had this way of instantly again. 313 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.799 I don't know if this is because I'm part of that. 314 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:30.009 sick Irish tribe, but she had this way of immediately 315 00:12:30.549 --> 00:12:34.049 becoming like an older sister to me. So I'm sitting 316 00:12:34.090 --> 00:12:38.649 next to her and we're going back and forth and 317 00:12:38.850 --> 00:12:41.879 bullshitting in between sketches. And then finally, at the end 318 00:12:41.899 --> 00:12:44.720 of the show, Paul McCartney comes out. It's like a surprise, 319 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.419 but he comes out to sing like the end of 320 00:12:47.580 --> 00:12:51.940 Abbey Road. And I just next to Catherine went, oh. 321 00:12:52.830 --> 00:12:56.519 And she said, what? And I said, this guy's never good. 322 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.169 And Catherine, like, punched me. She's like, oh, shut up, 323 00:13:02.210 --> 00:13:04.710 you know. I'm like, I don't, I don't, I know her, 324 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:06.190 but I didn't know her well enough to get punched 325 00:13:06.210 --> 00:13:07.350 by her. But yes, I did. 326 00:13:07.370 --> 00:13:10.009 That's also a stunning Catherine O'Hara impersonation. 327 00:13:10.029 --> 00:13:10.690 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 328 00:13:10.710 --> 00:13:12.889 She had a very sort of, oh. There was a 329 00:13:12.909 --> 00:13:17.370 throatiness to her that was so gruff at times. Yeah. 330 00:13:17.450 --> 00:13:20.429 And yet she played like Lola Heatherton and Moira Rose 331 00:13:20.490 --> 00:13:24.090 and had this like unbelievable elegance. And yet sometimes could 332 00:13:24.129 --> 00:13:27.129 just be like. Oh, gosh. 333 00:13:27.190 --> 00:13:27.470 Yeah. 334 00:13:27.490 --> 00:13:28.620 Suddenly lose her words. 335 00:13:28.860 --> 00:13:31.120 She also knew when something was not funny. 336 00:13:31.379 --> 00:13:31.600 Yes. 337 00:13:31.740 --> 00:13:33.039 Hence your Paul McCartney joke. 338 00:13:33.059 --> 00:13:33.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 339 00:13:33.700 --> 00:13:39.679 Yeah. She knew when to bring it back to reality. 340 00:13:39.700 --> 00:13:42.460 I wanted to be the one person who ever said 341 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:45.139 that when Paul McCartney came out. I just wanted, I 342 00:13:45.179 --> 00:13:46.909 thought there's no one's ever done it. I'm going to 343 00:13:46.950 --> 00:13:47.210 do it. 344 00:13:47.509 --> 00:13:49.809 I'm sure that was the reaction you were looking for. 345 00:13:49.870 --> 00:13:50.570 Yeah, exactly. 346 00:13:50.590 --> 00:13:52.309 Let's go out on a limb with this Paul McCartney 347 00:13:52.330 --> 00:13:54.929 joke and see how it reacts. 348 00:13:54.970 --> 00:13:56.730 I wanted to get punched by Catherine O'Hara and my 349 00:13:56.870 --> 00:14:00.360 dream came true. But this segues nicely into something that 350 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:04.000 has always puzzled me. And at the event for Catherine, 351 00:14:04.059 --> 00:14:07.419 the former Prime Minister Trudeau was there. 352 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.690 That's right. At one point, I find myself talking to 353 00:14:09.730 --> 00:14:12.029 him after the ceremony, and I just said, why? Why 354 00:14:12.750 --> 00:14:15.070 are Canadians? What is it? Is it in the water? 355 00:14:15.350 --> 00:14:17.049 What is it about? And I know it's a question 356 00:14:17.070 --> 00:14:17.629 that's been around. 357 00:14:17.649 --> 00:14:19.669 For a second, I thought you asked him why he 358 00:14:20.269 --> 00:14:20.649 was there. 359 00:14:20.809 --> 00:14:20.909 Yeah. 360 00:14:20.929 --> 00:14:23.250 And why, and also- Again, I don't know if that 361 00:14:23.350 --> 00:14:25.129 would fly with, I don't know, maybe. 362 00:14:25.340 --> 00:14:28.269 I did, so when I saw him go, ugh. And 363 00:14:28.350 --> 00:14:29.769 someone next to me said, what's the problem? And I said, 364 00:14:29.830 --> 00:14:34.509 he's never good. No, I asked him, what is it about, 365 00:14:35.350 --> 00:14:38.669 so many of my comedy heroes, I grew up watching 366 00:14:39.289 --> 00:14:43.690 your dad, Joe Flaherty, Catherine O'Hara, I mean, Marty Short, 367 00:14:43.769 --> 00:14:48.190 the whole crew, I watched them on SCTV and I 368 00:14:48.230 --> 00:14:52.169 was a religious devotee of how smart and funny and great. 369 00:14:52.190 --> 00:14:53.549 What a brilliant show that was. 370 00:14:54.029 --> 00:14:57.269 Well, I also try to, I try to get, younger 371 00:14:57.330 --> 00:15:02.169 people to

understand there's so much smart cutting edge stuff 372 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.600 that can come from any angle at you now. It 373 00:15:04.700 --> 00:15:06.720 just didn't exist then. 374 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.820 And SNL was great and monolithic, but SCTV shows up 375 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:15.179 shortly afterwards and it is more like the internet comedy 376 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:15.779 of today. 377 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:16.139 Right. 378 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.039 It was maybe 50 years. That's felt like it was 379 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.289 50 years ahead of its time. And I just fell 380 00:15:21.330 --> 00:15:23.570 in love with it. And I, I was, and then, 381 00:15:23.590 --> 00:15:26.340 you know, working in comedy, I've just every time I 382 00:15:26.379 --> 00:15:30.110 work with Canadians and they're so fast and funny. 383 00:15:30.549 --> 00:15:33.009 And I'm wondering you're growing up. Was it in Toronto? 384 00:15:33.049 --> 00:15:33.549 Where did you go? 385 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:33.870 Toronto. 386 00:15:33.909 --> 00:15:36.970 Toronto. And can you explain what this whole thing is? 387 00:15:37.029 --> 00:15:41.379 Well, I mean, my my dad and Catherine had have 388 00:15:41.409 --> 00:15:44.600 this philosophy that it's actually not an instinct. It's not 389 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:49.539 a categorically Canadian thing. It's just Canadians who have succeeded 390 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:53.330 have just like there's a lot of Canadian enthusiasm around them. 391 00:15:53.500 --> 00:15:53.620 OK. 392 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.379 But statistically speaking, I mean, I think there are a 393 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:01.279 lot of very successful, specifically Canadian comedians. 394 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.480 I believe that statistically it's off the charts, meaning I'm 395 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.799 not satisfied with the explanation that, no, there are funny 396 00:16:06.850 --> 00:16:10.169 people in every country and somehow Canadians just support. No, 397 00:16:10.830 --> 00:16:13.309 I've worked with way too many. All the kids in 398 00:16:13.330 --> 00:16:17.500 the hall guys, Mike Myers are just. It's an endless list. 399 00:16:17.940 --> 00:16:20.799 And it's also pockets of very funny Canadians that have 400 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.210 found each other at these points in their lives. And I, 401 00:16:23.250 --> 00:16:26.370 you know, going one of my big like genie wishes 402 00:16:26.429 --> 00:16:29.169 would be to go back and watch some of those 403 00:16:29.230 --> 00:16:31.009 early Second City nights. 404 00:16:31.929 --> 00:16:32.129 Right. 405 00:16:32.389 --> 00:16:37.669 You know, John Candy, Andrea Martin, Catherine O'Hara, my dad, Marty. Uh, 406 00:16:37.870 --> 00:16:40.529 and then, you know, Gilda. Yep. And I mean, then 407 00:16:40.570 --> 00:16:42.509 you get into the God spell of it all, which 408 00:16:42.629 --> 00:16:44.149 I would have killed to have seen. 409 00:16:44.289 --> 00:16:46.070 Oh, that's the show we all want to go back 410 00:16:46.149 --> 00:16:49.809 and hang out at because it, it was, uh, it's 411 00:16:49.830 --> 00:16:52.450 like every important science or every great painter in the 412 00:16:52.490 --> 00:16:55.570 Renaissance somehow got together and worked on one painting. 413 00:16:55.590 --> 00:16:56.149 It was insane. 414 00:16:56.210 --> 00:16:58.730 That's how it, it felt this one production of God spell. 415 00:16:58.909 --> 00:17:01.389 Everybody was in it. I mean, everybody. 416 00:17:01.409 --> 00:17:01.590 Yeah. 417 00:17:01.750 --> 00:17:06.460 And, um, It has like legendary status. The very first 418 00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:09.420 movie I ever made was with Tina Fey. And I 419 00:17:09.460 --> 00:17:11.839 was so nervous. And at a break, she came over 420 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:13.619 and she was like, I want to talk about Godspell 421 00:17:13.660 --> 00:17:16.759 in Toronto. And instantly I was set at ease. 422 00:17:16.859 --> 00:17:17.640 Yeah. 423 00:17:18.019 --> 00:17:20.420 So it's it's it's yes, there are funny Canadians, but 424 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:25.220 there's also like these pockets of unbelievably brilliant Canadian funny 425 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:28.990 minds that have somehow found their way into the international 426 00:17:29.069 --> 00:17:33.990 sort of zeitgeist. I think it's because we live above America, 427 00:17:34.690 --> 00:17:38.559 which is inherently sort of a very prideful freedom. 428 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:43.619 And, you know, you'll have freedom if it kills you. 429 00:17:45.619 --> 00:17:47.460 We're firing a freedom bomb at you. 430 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.230 It's like, what? We can't relate. You know, we don't 431 00:17:52.269 --> 00:17:56.349 have that kind of hubris. So as a place that 432 00:17:56.390 --> 00:17:59.099 is sort of wanting to be very different than America, 433 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.599 but knowing that it is not quite as powerful, there 434 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.180 is an inherent sort of Self-awareness. 435 00:18:05.309 --> 00:18:05.529 Yes. 436 00:18:05.940 --> 00:18:09.170 That is in the water. And I believe self-awareness is 437 00:18:09.210 --> 00:18:12.009 what makes the people funny. Yes. It's a lack of 438 00:18:12.049 --> 00:18:15.410 self-awareness is the most boring people you meet are completely 439 00:18:15.470 --> 00:18:16.970 unaware of how boring they are. 440 00:18:17.089 --> 00:18:17.309 Yes. 441 00:18:17.609 --> 00:18:18.230 Yes. 442 00:18:18.269 --> 00:18:22.490 Canadians are very aware of how boring they are. And 443 00:18:22.589 --> 00:18:23.779 that's what makes it funny. 444 00:18:24.380 --> 00:18:25.839 Do you know what I mean? Yes. 445 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:26.779 No, that's it. 446 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:27.599 I don't believe that. 447 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:29.920 We know what's going on and we can. 448 00:18:29.859 --> 00:18:31.059 Talk about. 449 00:18:32.259 --> 00:18:34.119 It. God, I

love being Canadian. 450 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:37.720 It's sounding pretty good right now. I want to be Canadian. 451 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.259 I'm clutching that passport. 452 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.279 My wife and I got invited to that lake area 453 00:18:45.299 --> 00:18:46.640 where everyone has their little cottages. 454 00:18:46.660 --> 00:18:47.579 Yeah, and Muskokas. 455 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:47.720 Yeah. 456 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.700 Sitting on a dock and watching a boat pull up and, 457 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:54.000 you know, Catherine jumped out of the boat with her husband, Beau, 458 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:57.789 and your dad's there and people, like the cast of 459 00:18:57.900 --> 00:18:59.740 SCTV is jumping out of a boat to sit with 460 00:18:59.789 --> 00:19:02.589 me on a dock while Marty pours us drinks. 461 00:19:03.109 --> 00:19:06.130 And I left my body. I left my body. 462 00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:07.750 You're drinking probably a rum and ting. 463 00:19:07.769 --> 00:19:08.890 Yes, rum and ting. 464 00:19:09.529 --> 00:19:12.089 And of course, I remember it was like two o'clock 465 00:19:12.109 --> 00:19:14.769 in the afternoon and Marty's like, time for rum and tea. 466 00:19:15.490 --> 00:19:17.430 And I noticed he shouts about everything. 467 00:19:17.450 --> 00:19:17.809 Of course. 468 00:19:17.869 --> 00:19:20.630 Come in, my boy. Rum and tea. 469 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:23.220 And then a boat pulls up. All my heroes are 470 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:24.720 on one boat. They all get out. 471 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:26.099 We're sitting on the dock. 472 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.500 I leave my body and I'm looking at myself thinking, 473 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:31.720 that guy's hot. 474 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:32.119 No. 475 00:19:32.700 --> 00:19:32.779 No. 476 00:19:35.170 --> 00:19:36.930 God, the sun has done wonders. 477 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.319 That's what happens every time I leave my body. I'm like, 478 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:45.710 check out that ass. Wait, are you looking at your 479 00:19:45.869 --> 00:19:48.470 own ass? Your ass isn't good. 480 00:19:48.569 --> 00:19:49.309 Well, still. 481 00:19:49.750 --> 00:19:52.269 No, I, but I was, I was, I just couldn't 482 00:19:52.329 --> 00:19:55.339 believe it. I just couldn't, I couldn't believe the whole thing. 483 00:19:55.490 --> 00:19:59.920 And then what's lovely about this whole story is that 484 00:19:59.980 --> 00:20:03.900 I know that you growing up were very conscious of 485 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.890 not wanting to be part of your dad's light and 486 00:20:07.970 --> 00:20:10.930 make your own thing and do it your way, which 487 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:14.009 is in some ways harder, I think. 488 00:20:15.309 --> 00:20:15.650 Yeah. 489 00:20:16.150 --> 00:20:18.710 Because you talk about when you were a kid. 490 00:20:18.809 --> 00:20:19.009 Yeah. 491 00:20:19.410 --> 00:20:20.769 I don't know where I read this, but you were 492 00:20:20.789 --> 00:20:23.289 a kid. And if people were paying attention to your dad, 493 00:20:23.329 --> 00:20:24.569 you didn't want to be part of that. 494 00:20:24.670 --> 00:20:24.910 Yeah. 495 00:20:24.990 --> 00:20:25.569 Is that true? 496 00:20:25.730 --> 00:20:28.509 I would like walk 10 steps ahead or 10 steps behind. 497 00:20:28.650 --> 00:20:30.869 I really didn't like... Well, I was like really insecure 498 00:20:30.910 --> 00:20:33.130 as a kid too. And I think... Having a parent 499 00:20:33.170 --> 00:20:38.059 who is like well-known and particularly in Canada, that SCTV 500 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:41.519 alumni are just like a kind of royalty. 501 00:20:41.539 --> 00:20:43.940 Yeah, they're like 10 Wayne Gretzky's walking around. 502 00:20:45.779 --> 00:20:49.380 That's exactly it. And people would come up and the 503 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:54.589 attention was just so kind of... awkward. And so, yeah, 504 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:56.869 I never really paid attention to it. And then I 505 00:20:56.910 --> 00:20:58.710 got into the theater program in high school and would 506 00:20:58.750 --> 00:21:01.180 never ask my dad for any help and really wanted 507 00:21:01.220 --> 00:21:03.779 to do it on my own. I just think when 508 00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:07.440 you grow up under somebody who is so good at 509 00:21:07.500 --> 00:21:10.609 what they do, a lot of the trial and error 510 00:21:10.750 --> 00:21:13.089 of being a child of somebody who is good at 511 00:21:13.150 --> 00:21:16.009 what they do is trying to discover whether you are 512 00:21:16.150 --> 00:21:19.160 also good at the thing that you're excited about. And 513 00:21:19.220 --> 00:21:21.180 if you happen to be excited about the thing that 514 00:21:21.220 --> 00:21:23.769 your parent does... it makes it even harder. 515 00:21:23.789 --> 00:21:24.210 Yeah. 516 00:21:24.289 --> 00:21:27.410 Because you're constantly in comparison. I remember taking a second 517 00:21:27.430 --> 00:21:31.579 city class, improv class in Toronto, in front of a 518 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:36.220 five foot by six foot photo of my dad in costume. 519 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.079 It was like. 520 00:21:39.660 --> 00:21:40.440 Bobby Bittman? 521 00:21:40.460 --> 00:21:41.319 That was Bobby Bittman. 522 00:21:41.339 --> 00:21:44.250 Bobby Bittman, okay. A giant Bobby Bittman looking at me. 523 00:21:44.259 --> 00:21:45.769 It was a giant like, how are you? In a 524 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:47.950 thing with the red suit and the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 525 00:21:48.029 --> 00:21:50.710 And I was, and people were like, gosh, you look 526 00:21:50.730 --> 00:21:51.670 a lot like Eugene Levy. 527 00:21:51.710 --> 00:21:51.829 Yeah. 528 00:21:52.670 --> 00:21:55.339 And I thought, I can't take these classes anymore. I 529 00:21:55.380 --> 00:21:58.920 can't do this. Because also failing at improv in front 530 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.559 of a photo of your father, who didn't fail at improv,

531 00:22:03.289 --> 00:22:06.509 is worse than never having done it. It's worse than 532 00:22:06.589 --> 00:22:11.009 failing at a thousand things. So I just, I never really, 533 00:22:11.369 --> 00:22:13.730 when I got a job at MTV, I didn't tell 534 00:22:13.769 --> 00:22:16.720 them who my dad, I just didn't want anything to 535 00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:17.579 do with him. 536 00:22:17.740 --> 00:22:17.920 Right. 537 00:22:18.210 --> 00:22:20.670 Because I revered him so much, but also because I 538 00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:24.430 wanted to trial and error my own skills without the 539 00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:26.190 constant comparison. 540 00:22:25.630 --> 00:22:28.369 Of, is it as good as Bobby? 541 00:22:29.890 --> 00:22:33.190 And slowly but surely, I built a name for myself 542 00:22:33.259 --> 00:22:37.380 in Canada, very unbeknownst to the audience that I was 543 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:42.200 my father's son. And then when shits happened, I felt 544 00:22:42.259 --> 00:22:45.599 confident enough in my own point of view, in what 545 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.450 I was bringing to the table, to ask him to collaborate. 546 00:22:48.910 --> 00:22:52.930 And I just had to get to that place by myself. 547 00:22:53.150 --> 00:22:53.390 Yeah. 548 00:22:53.630 --> 00:22:53.730 Yeah. 549 00:22:53.750 --> 00:22:55.890 I think it's almost like you had to do like 550 00:22:55.950 --> 00:22:59.170 a walkabout or a desert sojourn where you figure these 551 00:22:59.210 --> 00:22:59.809 things out. 552 00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:03.269 And it's interesting because... But. 553 00:23:02.650 --> 00:23:05.819 Also being Canadian, you don't want the leg up. 554 00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:06.490 Yeah. 555 00:23:07.029 --> 00:23:10.130 You want the torture of doing it completely on your own. 556 00:23:10.269 --> 00:23:13.430 But also when you do it on your own, there 557 00:23:13.470 --> 00:23:15.819 is a greater satisfaction in the success. 558 00:23:15.930 --> 00:23:16.119 Yes. 559 00:23:27.259 --> 00:23:28.839 Good nights are about the people. 560 00:23:29.660 --> 00:23:30.140 The laughs. 561 00:23:30.660 --> 00:23:33.420 The real moments you don't want to miss. So why 562 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:38.460 step outside? Velo tobacco-free nicotine pouches fit seamlessly into your night. 563 00:23:38.700 --> 00:23:42.039 Convenient and full of flavour. No breaks. No interruptions. 564 00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:42.900 Velo. 565 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:47.480 Anytime, anywhere nicotine pouches. 18 and over. 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And 593 00:25:09.619 --> 00:25:14.480 the problem with doing press around something when these articles 594 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.160 are coming out is you then have to swallow the 595 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.559 fact that everybody is reading the New York Times. Yes. 596 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:24.119 Reading like, I don't know if it was the word 597 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.799 was untalented, but that was the takeaway that I took 598 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:29.039 from it. It was not kind. Yeah. And then you 599 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.259 kind of had to go and be like, I'm really 600 00:25:32.339 --> 00:25:37.480 excited about the show that I'm making. Anyway, cut to 601 00:25:37.549 --> 00:25:40.049 six years later, they wrote a glowing review of our 602 00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:44.630 final episode. And you sometimes just have to keep working 603 00:25:45.269 --> 00:25:47.029 to prove yourself. And I'm fine with that. 604 00:25:47.069 --> 00:25:47.650 Yeah. 605 00:25:47.789 --> 00:25:50.190 I mean, this is funny because you mentioned this with 606 00:25:50.250 --> 00:25:52.329 the in Canada, you don't want to leg up. You 607 00:25:52.369 --> 00:25:56.079 almost want the punishment. I realized that I had kind 608 00:25:56.130 --> 00:25:59.539 of a self-hating thing that was very comfortable with the 609 00:25:59.579 -->

00:26:04.039 punishment early on. Sure. And then when things turned around, 610 00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:06.359 by the time they turned around, I felt much more 611 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:10.740 confident because I felt like I hadn't been floating along 612 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.259 on a lot of hot air, certainly. And it can 613 00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:19.369 feel beneficial, you know, to walk through that in the beginning. 614 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:20.589 Absolutely. And find your way. 615 00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:22.769 I also feel very lucky about the fact that nobody 616 00:26:22.809 --> 00:26:24.809 really watched Schitt's Creek until it was done. 617 00:26:24.829 --> 00:26:24.890 So. 618 00:26:26.980 --> 00:26:29.019 We were able to just make the show we wanted. 619 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.099 How rare is that? 620 00:26:30.220 --> 00:26:30.440 Yeah. 621 00:26:30.619 --> 00:26:33.940 To make six seasons of a TV show with absolutely 622 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:37.779 no expectations from an audience. Nobody cared. We were hustling 623 00:26:37.819 --> 00:26:40.099 till the end. And then it wasn't until I had 624 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:45.089 finished writing the last episode of our sixth season, the 625 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.390 series finale, that people started to pay attention. So we 626 00:26:48.450 --> 00:26:52.329 had this wonderful kind of window where due to luck 627 00:26:52.390 --> 00:26:54.269 and circumstance, we were able to stay on the air 628 00:26:54.329 --> 00:26:58.380 for six seasons. amazing seasons, but nobody cared. But also, 629 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:00.509 so great. 630 00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:01.289 I cared. 631 00:27:01.630 --> 00:27:02.950 I definitely cared. 632 00:27:03.430 --> 00:27:06.450 But also what's nice is now they're done and we 633 00:27:06.710 --> 00:27:11.150 are a culture now. I think there is upsides and 634 00:27:11.210 --> 00:27:15.009 downsides to the modern streaming world we live in. A 635 00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:18.950 big upside is shows that I love, like An Arrested 636 00:27:18.970 --> 00:27:22.019 Development or Schitt's Creek, they're there for me at all times. 637 00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:25.970 And you can go through and you can page through 638 00:27:25.990 --> 00:27:28.829 them like having a classic novel around the house. It's 639 00:27:28.849 --> 00:27:32.410 really lovely. And I remembered thinking this before she passed. 640 00:27:32.430 --> 00:27:35.369 I remember thinking it was such a nice thing for 641 00:27:35.410 --> 00:27:40.460 Catherine to have that role during that last decade of 642 00:27:40.539 --> 00:27:43.960 her life where she was playing someone who is beloved. 643 00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:48.420 People love the character and they're really getting to see 644 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:52.000 yet another way that she's really funny And she was 645 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.000 very proud of it. And I think people were always 646 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.309 coming up

to her saying, we love you on Schitt's Creek. 647 00:27:56.690 --> 00:27:57.730 It was such a nice thing. 648 00:27:57.750 --> 00:27:58.910 It's the greatest. 649 00:27:58.950 --> 00:28:01.109 For her that you, you made happen. 650 00:28:01.549 --> 00:28:03.849 She made it happen. I just made sure that I 651 00:28:03.890 --> 00:28:06.819 was prepared. Okay. That's really what it came down to. 652 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:07.039 Like. 653 00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:10.750 So much of Moira Rose was Catherine. 654 00:28:10.930 --> 00:28:11.589 Yeah. 655 00:28:11.809 --> 00:28:15.890 As is every character she... I mean, you know, Seth 656 00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:19.049 Rogen was talking about this recently, about, you know, how 657 00:28:19.670 --> 00:28:23.130 the amazing thing about Catherine is she would email them 658 00:28:23.349 --> 00:28:26.319 the night before being like, gentlemen, some thoughts about the 659 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.460 scenes we're shooting tomorrow, and it would be a full 660 00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:29.359 top-to-tail rewrite. 661 00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:31.660 And. 662 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.420 As soon as he said it, it was like, I 663 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:39.049 got those. I got those emails. The gentleman. It always 664 00:28:39.089 --> 00:28:41.950 started with gentlemen. Some thoughts. And then it was an 665 00:28:42.130 --> 00:28:45.910 unbelievable rewrite of the scene. And that is what the 666 00:28:45.950 --> 00:28:49.490 amazing all the great Catherine roles were when she found 667 00:28:49.549 --> 00:28:54.450 collaborators that wanted to give her that platform. Yeah. You know, 668 00:28:54.609 --> 00:28:57.950 because she had so much to offer. And she was so... 669 00:28:57.710 --> 00:29:01.460 The way that she thinks is so on another level 670 00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:05.000 that as a writer, you can't get into her head. 671 00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:07.500 So all you can really do is set the table, 672 00:29:07.980 --> 00:29:12.710 wait for the email, gentlemen, some thoughts, read the scene, 673 00:29:12.950 --> 00:29:14.829 and say, fuck yeah. You know? 674 00:29:14.930 --> 00:29:15.269 And like. 675 00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:18.490 Just be prepared. Sure. You know, she told me how 676 00:29:18.569 --> 00:29:20.670 she wanted to look on the show. My job was 677 00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:23.009 to make sure that in a wardrobe fitting, we had 678 00:29:23.509 --> 00:29:24.609 everything that would excite her. 679 00:29:24.789 --> 00:29:26.750 Well, this I have to break in because you just 680 00:29:26.769 --> 00:29:29.730 brought up a topic that came to my mind, which 681 00:29:29.789 --> 00:29:34.450 is the wardrobe for the show was, you know, a 682 00:29:34.509 --> 00:29:35.710 star of the show as well. 683 00:29:35.769 --> 00:29:36.029 Sure. 684 00:29:36.349 --> 00:29:38.299 And um, it always reminded. 685 00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:40.829 Me a little bit of Gilligan's Island where the premise 686 00:29:40.869 --> 00:29:44.829 was these, these people get together for a three hour tour, 687 00:29:44.849 --> 00:29:48.670 a storm hits, they're washed up on an island. And 688 00:29:48.809 --> 00:29:51.289 every time you see the Howells, they're wearing these absurd 689 00:29:51.349 --> 00:29:54.869 different outfits. And they just said, yes, they brought a 690 00:29:54.910 --> 00:29:58.019 trunk of their clothes with them on a three-hour tour. 691 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.380 And it was a trunk that was like out of Hogwarts. 692 00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:01.720 It was infinite. 693 00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:04.660 That could last for years. There's Belgian armor in there. 694 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:09.140 There's Shakespearean garb. Every single thing you would ever need. 695 00:30:09.220 --> 00:30:11.490 And I remembered having that thought about Schitt's Creek, which 696 00:30:11.529 --> 00:30:14.809 is they had money. And then so they lost it, 697 00:30:14.890 --> 00:30:15.369 but got. 698 00:30:15.230 --> 00:30:19.400 To keep every piece of clothing and somehow store it 699 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:21.339 in a motel. 700 00:30:21.420 --> 00:30:22.279 Very small motel. 701 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.220 Often booked up. So in our mind, all of their 702 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.680 clothes were stored in the upstairs above the lobby of 703 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.599 the motel. But also I love how we rationalize. 704 00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:35.599 But I love that. I love that. 705 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.640 You do seem to me like someone who does his homework. 706 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.220 I'm sure you were doing all of the character work 707 00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:44.880 and figuring out down to the smallest detail. 708 00:30:45.019 --> 00:30:47.319 But to that point, those clothes did so much of 709 00:30:47.339 --> 00:30:50.180 the character work for us. All I had to do 710 00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:53.700 was make sure the racks looked good and they were nuts. 711 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.720 And that we had, you know, huge sky high heels 712 00:30:57.819 --> 00:31:00.680 and like knee high boots and mini skirts made out 713 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.299 of latex. And at some point there were some, I 714 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:09.430 would source these designer pieces that sometimes required us to 715 00:31:09.589 --> 00:31:13.289 contact the designer to find out how to put them on. 716 00:31:13.329 --> 00:31:16.950 There's a dress that Catherine wears. 717 00:31:17.029 --> 00:31:19.470 You enter through the arm. No joke. 718 00:31:20.910 --> 00:31:23.890 There's a very classic scene where Moira Rose is being 719 00:31:23.990 --> 00:31:29.009 photographed in a field by a character we called Sebastian Rain, 720 00:31:29.049 --> 00:31:32.750 who was played by Francois Arnault, who is now of 721 00:31:32.789 --> 00:31:38.529 heated rivalry fame. And she is in a latex dress. 722 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.329 that had to be tied with a shirt underneath. And

723 00:31:42.450 --> 00:31:45.369 we couldn't figure out how to tie the latex because 724 00:31:45.789 --> 00:31:49.950 putting a tie around latex is like rubber rubbing against rubber. 725 00:31:50.509 --> 00:31:53.900 So at one point there were like four people around Catherine, 726 00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:56.819 like one with a foot on her back, one trying 727 00:31:56.859 --> 00:31:57.720 to tie the latex. 728 00:31:57.740 --> 00:31:58.000 Oh my God. 729 00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:00.980 I'm like swirling around her being like, can you breathe? 730 00:32:01.019 --> 00:32:02.549 Are you feeling good? Is everything okay? 731 00:32:02.630 --> 00:32:03.190 Missing her. 732 00:32:03.210 --> 00:32:07.690 And that was when Catherine was like at her most excited. 733 00:32:07.789 --> 00:32:08.349 Yeah, yeah. 734 00:32:08.410 --> 00:32:11.410 When the costumes were so insane that it took five 735 00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:13.880 people to put them on and then boots that were 736 00:32:13.910 --> 00:32:16.579 laced up that took 10 minutes and then she'd walk 737 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.000 onto set, you would hear kind of gasps from the 738 00:32:20.059 --> 00:32:22.799 crew because they never knew what she was going to 739 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.000 show up wearing and looking like depending on the wigs 740 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:31.319 as well. And it was the joy of seeing Catherine excited. 741 00:32:31.539 --> 00:32:33.089 There is no greater joy for me. 742 00:32:33.390 --> 00:32:35.190 But also, I mean, you got to wear great stuff. 743 00:32:35.569 --> 00:32:39.970 I wore a lot of drop crotch pants and... They 744 00:32:39.990 --> 00:32:44.069 were all really comfortable, actually. So that's all you can 745 00:32:44.109 --> 00:32:46.470 ask for. I mean, wearing double-faced cashmere in the dead 746 00:32:46.509 --> 00:32:50.160 of summer in Toronto outside was tough, but I won't 747 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:50.950 complain about it. 748 00:32:51.019 --> 00:32:54.180 We all pay our dues. That's exactly it. 749 00:32:54.339 --> 00:32:57.880 I always heard that Sarah Jessica Parker owned her deal 750 00:32:57.940 --> 00:32:59.359 when she was making Sex and the City was she 751 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.490 gets to own all the dresses and that they're in 752 00:33:01.509 --> 00:33:04.029 a massive warehouse somewhere and she owns them all. 753 00:33:04.309 --> 00:33:06.849 And I'm thinking, I hope you had that deal with 754 00:33:06.869 --> 00:33:07.470 Schitt's Creek. 755 00:33:08.349 --> 00:33:14.009 Are you fucking crazy? Do you understand how little that 756 00:33:14.089 --> 00:33:19.329 show cost? We had to sell every piece of clothing 757 00:33:19.650 --> 00:33:22.380 to pay off the debts that the show had, even 758 00:33:22.420 --> 00:33:26.059 in our sixth season. Wow. We got no cash. It 759 00:33:26.099 --> 00:33:29.299 was like slim pickings from the very beginning and then 760 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.940 incremental sort of, I think it's like a standard 15%, 761 00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:36.819 whatever it is that your budget can increase. But, you know, 762 00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:39.759 15% on like a pile of shells and a feather 763 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:44.319 is not giving you much. So we had to sell 764 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.200 it all. I kept four looks. I kept four of 765 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.660 Catherine's looks, four of Annie's looks, and four of my looks. Unfortunately, 766 00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:55.440 my dad's suits, we can just buy in a store. But, 767 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.940 so I have some. The retrospective will be small, but 768 00:33:59.980 --> 00:34:01.759 I do have some of the looks. 769 00:34:01.779 --> 00:34:03.539 So the museum is going to be like a little 770 00:34:03.619 --> 00:34:04.220 nook in a mall. 771 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:05.440 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It'll be a corner. 772 00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:05.549 Yeah. 773 00:34:06.869 --> 00:34:08.650 Here they are, the four outfits. 774 00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:09.190 That's right. 775 00:34:09.969 --> 00:34:11.909 Moths got to them, but it's fine. They were kept 776 00:34:12.010 --> 00:34:14.929 in my parents' basement in Toronto, where they still are, 777 00:34:14.949 --> 00:34:19.590 in a plastic bin. So we'll see. 778 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.960 The show ends, and I know that people are probably 779 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.420 all saying to you, as they do in this business, 780 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.559 or really any business, once you have a success. 781 00:34:28.860 --> 00:34:30.739 Hey, what's the next thing? 782 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:31.199 That's right. 783 00:34:31.570 --> 00:34:35.610 And I have never known what the next thing is, 784 00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:39.670 and go into like a weird, slovenly funk. 785 00:34:39.690 --> 00:34:42.929 I did say to my wonderful team of people, I 786 00:34:43.610 --> 00:34:47.530 cannot hear the word momentum ever again. 787 00:34:47.550 --> 00:34:47.989 Right. 788 00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:53.070 It means nothing to me. Momentum, I feel like, is 789 00:34:53.570 --> 00:34:56.150 a word that forces people to make bad decisions. 790 00:34:56.170 --> 00:34:57.809 Wow, that's good. 791 00:34:59.090 --> 00:35:02.659 And yet, this is an industry that's like, you're hot, 792 00:35:02.699 --> 00:35:03.539 you're hot, you're hot. 793 00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:04.980 What about this? 794 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.780 And someone says yes, and you do it, and suddenly 795 00:35:07.900 --> 00:35:10.039 you're spread too thin. We see it all the time. 796 00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:11.619 I don't know. 797 00:35:11.659 --> 00:35:15.380 I feel like I've been lucky enough to really care 798 00:35:15.460 --> 00:35:18.960 about the quality of the work because to me, If 799 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.139 what I'm putting out there isn't good, then why am 800 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:22.239 I doing it? 801 00:35:22.420 --> 00:35:22.659 Right. 802 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.480

You know what I mean? I worked at a bakery 803 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.739 and a video store. I can go back if I 804 00:35:26.780 --> 00:35:27.980 have to. Oh, the video store. 805 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:28.420 Wow. 806 00:35:29.940 --> 00:35:31.059 You can trim that, right? 807 00:35:31.739 --> 00:35:32.820 No, we can't. 808 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:33.900 I worked on a TikTok. 809 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:35.840 We're going to put that on a loop. 810 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:38.550 It's not fun. 811 00:35:38.570 --> 00:35:39.139 Yeah. 812 00:35:39.489 --> 00:35:41.179 And there's no, I mean, you know, to work on 813 00:35:41.219 --> 00:35:43.369 things you don't care about, it's just not fun. So 814 00:35:43.409 --> 00:35:47.250 I would rather take the time and risk the lack 815 00:35:47.309 --> 00:35:50.769 of momentum. Right. and put something out that continues to 816 00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:56.820 like excite people, then take every opportunity and not be 817 00:35:56.940 --> 00:35:59.300 maybe even the best fit for the opportunity that crosses 818 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:00.199 my path. Yeah. 819 00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:02.530 It's a really interesting point you make about momentum because 820 00:36:03.210 --> 00:36:05.449 that is a thing you got to strike while the 821 00:36:05.530 --> 00:36:06.170 iron is hot. 822 00:36:06.650 --> 00:36:08.090 You know, you just had a hit movie. You've got 823 00:36:08.110 --> 00:36:09.389 to write a book instantly. 824 00:36:09.630 --> 00:36:09.829 Yeah. 825 00:36:10.090 --> 00:36:10.650 And no one. 826 00:36:10.670 --> 00:36:12.989 Did I sell Tostitos chips? Absolutely. 827 00:36:14.030 --> 00:36:15.369 Do you regret it? No, you do not. 828 00:36:15.530 --> 00:36:19.260 Absolutely not. I was making a Canadian TV show. Okay. 829 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.659 Even at the end, we weren't making like. Yeah. 830 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:22.699 It's different. 831 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.880 So when Tostitos, I love a Tostitos chip. 832 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:26.400 You know what? 833 00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:26.940 Anyway. 834 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.739 Can I just say one other thing? It's a good chip. 835 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:31.610 It's a good chip. 836 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.750 Are you preparing yourself for eventually becoming a Tostitos guy? 837 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.239 I'm thinking. I'm just putting it out there. 838 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.730 But if Dan wants to do something with me and 839 00:36:39.750 --> 00:36:40.489 the Tostitos. 840 00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:44.690 Again, the humble side of myself was like, don't make 841 00:36:44.730 --> 00:36:47.489 it seem like you didn't take the ads. 842 00:36:47.989 --> 00:36:48.690 I took the ads. 843 00:36:48.949 --> 00:36:50.630 I enjoyed them. I was able to make them my own. 844 00:36:50.809 --> 00:36:53.320 Yes. Well, to me, the great revenge is if you 845 00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:55.639 can make one of those things funny and in your voice. 846 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:56.099 That's it. 847 00:36:56.380 --> 00:36:58.559 Then it becomes something you would have made anyway. 848 00:36:58.679 --> 00:36:59.139 Exactly. 849 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:01.780 Which is always the dream. That is the dream. 850 00:37:02.369 --> 00:37:05.570 But I'm just curious, you're in this period then where 851 00:37:06.130 --> 00:37:08.869 you need to think, you need some time, and time 852 00:37:08.909 --> 00:37:10.969 goes by and you've worked on other things, but then 853 00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:13.920 this idea comes along. 854 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.119 And did you have this idea? 855 00:37:16.139 --> 00:37:16.760 This show idea? 856 00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:17.380 This show idea. 857 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.360 Well, in between that show, I made a very small 858 00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:23.820 movie called Good Grief for Netflix, which was exactly what 859 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.679 they wanted me to make after the success of Schitt's Creek. 860 00:37:27.340 --> 00:37:30.539 A small film on the rumination of grief, just small. 861 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.679 examining the small ins and outs of how a group 862 00:37:36.730 --> 00:37:37.929 of friends deal with grief. 863 00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:40.670 You want laughs? We got laughs. 864 00:37:41.429 --> 00:37:42.969 And I was so aware of it at the time 865 00:37:43.010 --> 00:37:45.829 when I pitched it, too. You know, you're looking at 866 00:37:46.219 --> 00:37:53.409 very kind executives being like, and then, and that's it. Okay, great. 867 00:37:54.150 --> 00:37:55.949 And they made the movie, and I was so happy 868 00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:57.860 because it got me through such a hard time in 869 00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:59.780 my life, and I'm so proud of the film. But yes, 870 00:37:59.900 --> 00:38:01.360 now we are back to comedy. 871 00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:01.820 Yeah. 872 00:38:02.219 --> 00:38:05.440 And I'm, again, but I do think if you have curiosity, 873 00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:08.039 you have to, I think that's why the second album 874 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:11.519 from an artist is always kind of the experimental one. 875 00:38:11.619 --> 00:38:11.820 Yeah. 876 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.420 Because when they have success in one area, like a record, 877 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.420 you'll listen to an unbelievable record, like... Jagged Little Pill, 878 00:38:19.460 --> 00:38:22.840 for example. And then you have supposed former infatuation junkie, 879 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.639 which is like similar, but very different. But I think 880 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:31.500 you need the freedom to play in another area to 881 00:38:31.619 --> 00:38:34.079 show yourself that you have the ability to do other 882 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.590 things because the industry can make you feel like, oh, 883 00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:38.590 you're that guy. 884 00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:39.219 Yeah, yeah. 885 00:38:39.530 --> 00:38:41.829 So that's what you do. And

you'll do that. And 886 00:38:41.869 --> 00:38:45.070 I did. I got like really a lot of scripts 887 00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:50.500 where I was asked to play a essentially a worse 888 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.639 written David Rose. And I was like, I did that 889 00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:56.239 better than this. 890 00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:56.489 So.... 891 00:38:58.309 --> 00:39:00.170 I don't want to do that again. I want to 892 00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:03.889 tell a small story about friends who are dealing with 893 00:39:03.929 --> 00:39:06.750 grief and then I'll get back to the comedy. But 894 00:39:06.769 --> 00:39:08.829 I have to know what else is out there in 895 00:39:08.889 --> 00:39:11.500 order to feel confident enough to come back into the 896 00:39:11.539 --> 00:39:14.500 space that gave me everything I have now and be 897 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.019 excited to come back to it. 898 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.320 Right. Well, I mean, as I said earlier, David and 899 00:39:19.380 --> 00:39:22.480 I were watching a couple of the episodes and really 900 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:23.400 enjoying it. 901 00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:24.579 It's really funny. 902 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:26.690 And the first thing I noticed before the show even 903 00:39:26.710 --> 00:39:28.710 began is that this is something that you worked on 904 00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:29.969 with Rachel Senech. 905 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:30.480 Yes. 906 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.099 And I thought immediately, like, well, love Dan, love Rachel, 907 00:39:35.460 --> 00:39:38.260 very much looking forward to this, and then didn't disappoint. 908 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:39.780 Thanks. You know, it was really funny. 909 00:39:39.940 --> 00:39:40.929 I'm really happy with it. 910 00:39:41.949 --> 00:39:45.030 And you know what's interesting is right away it's revealed 911 00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:48.070 that your character is a pastor, like, in the first frame. 912 00:39:48.090 --> 00:39:48.170 Yeah. 913 00:39:48.670 --> 00:39:52.559 And it almost so felt like you throwing down a gauntlet, like, no, 914 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:53.460 this is not David. 915 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:55.639 It's not David. 916 00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.800 It couldn't be farther from David Rose. And it was 917 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:03.139 so smart, because in this one fell swoop, you're like, oh. he, 918 00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:06.760 this is no by, by making him a pastor, you're 919 00:40:06.780 --> 00:40:08.059 a completely different person. 920 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:08.460 That's right. 921 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.480 Um, it was, you know, I, I, it wasn't even 922 00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:13.670 a conscious thing. I think it was just curiosity. I 923 00:40:13.710 --> 00:40:16.949 wanted to do something different. I never get the opportunity 924 00:40:16.989 --> 00:40:20.059 to be part of a crime thing. I've, you know, I, 925 00:40:21.130 --> 00:40:23.130 it's just not, I guess what people see me as. 926 00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:25.579 So part of what was exciting to write the show. 927 00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:27.639 And when I thought about like, well, you know, when 928 00:40:27.659 --> 00:40:30.219 you commit to TV, it's a lot, it can potentially 929 00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:33.340 be a long journey. Exciting journey, but a long journey. 930 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.079 You better like what you're writing. Otherwise, you're in trouble. 931 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.150 And the idea of finding a way through both comedy 932 00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:43.630 and crime felt really exciting to me because it's so 933 00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:47.250 far from my comfort zone. The idea of being blackmailed 934 00:40:47.289 --> 00:40:51.329 into organized crime is a horrible phobia that I have. 935 00:40:51.349 --> 00:40:54.710 That is the most specific phobia I've ever heard of 936 00:40:54.789 --> 00:40:55.050 in my life. 937 00:40:55.070 --> 00:40:58.889 Generally speaking, I hate being trapped in things. Yeah. So 938 00:40:59.170 --> 00:41:03.199 the concept of being blackmailed into organized crime, you are stuck. 939 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.599 The chances of you getting out of that situation, it's 940 00:41:07.619 --> 00:41:08.019 not good. 941 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:08.679 And if you're. 942 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.019 Me in that situation, you're done. 943 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:11.619 Bye-bye. 944 00:41:12.179 --> 00:41:16.929 So that felt exciting. And I brought the idea to Rachel. 945 00:41:17.010 --> 00:41:19.190 She loved it. We worked on it for, you know, 946 00:41:19.550 --> 00:41:23.170 eight months and wrote the pilot in a night. 947 00:41:23.969 --> 00:41:24.090 And. 948 00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:28.590 It was just, it was great. It was so fun 949 00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:29.929 to act. It was so fun to write. 950 00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:33.179 I have to talk about your sister is played by 951 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:34.320 Taylor Ortega. 952 00:41:34.380 --> 00:41:34.619 Yeah. 953 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.460 And she's really funny. And I was not as familiar 954 00:41:39.500 --> 00:41:43.239 with her. I didn't know Taylor. And I'm watching her 955 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:44.719 with you in this show. 956 00:41:44.739 --> 00:41:49.179 And it feels like a real brother-sister thing. 957 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:50.059 Yeah. 958 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.400 It feels very real. And one of the things I 959 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:57.260 think works so well is you are you are so 960 00:41:57.460 --> 00:42:01.639 good when your character is in peril and desperate. You're 961 00:42:01.739 --> 00:42:07.019 so funny doing not even quiet desperation, but. 962 00:42:08.579 --> 00:42:10.280 You play that so well. 963 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.980 And what you've put yourself into consciously or not is 964 00:42:13.019 --> 00:42:17.030 a situation where you are always in terrible peril. 965 00:42:17.090 --> 00:42:17.510 That's right. 966 00:42:17.590 -->

00:42:22.469 From maybe six minutes, five minutes into the show, you're 967 00:42:22.530 --> 00:42:26.340 in peril and then the show just keeps turning the crank. 968 00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:26.780 Yeah. 969 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.840 So you keep getting funnier and funnier and funnier as 970 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.360 you're in more and more peril. And of course you 971 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.360 have this sister, Taylor, who's very different from you. Um, and, uh, 972 00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:39.409 you know, more assertive. 973 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:40.789 Sure. 974 00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:44.289 But also, she's really funny in these situations. And the 975 00:42:44.329 --> 00:42:46.750 fact that you two still bicker when your lives are 976 00:42:46.769 --> 00:42:49.309 at risk made me really happy. 977 00:42:49.650 --> 00:42:52.309 That, to me, was what is the show. 978 00:42:52.329 --> 00:42:52.409 Yeah. 979 00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:56.559 It's like, you know, playing with the audience in terms 980 00:42:56.619 --> 00:43:00.159 of saying, okay, what if this were you and your sibling? 981 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.519 You wouldn't change the dynamic just because of the circumstance, right? 982 00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:08.530 You would be bickering in the back of a truck. Yeah. 983 00:43:08.889 --> 00:43:11.309 Well, this is, you're pointing out one of the situations, 984 00:43:11.949 --> 00:43:13.670 and I don't think I'm giving away too much. It's 985 00:43:13.690 --> 00:43:16.449 just a little thing that gives you a sense of 986 00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:20.980 the show is you guys are in the back of 987 00:43:21.019 --> 00:43:23.769 a truck. You're in great peril. and then you see 988 00:43:23.789 --> 00:43:25.889 an opportunity to flee, so you start to run. She 989 00:43:25.929 --> 00:43:28.090 starts yelling at you that it's not a good idea. 990 00:43:28.150 --> 00:43:31.360 You start, stop, start yelling back at her that it 991 00:43:31.420 --> 00:43:33.900 is a good idea, and you two are fighting about 992 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:36.039 whether or not you should flee while the bad guy 993 00:43:36.059 --> 00:43:42.429 comes back. And I thought the fact that sibling, sibling 994 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:48.090 bitterness and bickering overrides the instinct to live. 995 00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:50.309 That made me really happy. 996 00:43:52.369 --> 00:43:53.909 That's the joy of the show. 997 00:43:54.630 --> 00:43:56.409 These are two people that will, if they're forced to 998 00:43:56.429 --> 00:43:59.469 get into a common grave, will be arguing with each 999 00:43:59.550 --> 00:44:02.710 other about who should get shot second as opposed to first. 1000 00:44:03.030 --> 00:44:04.250 Yeah. 1001 00:44:04.469 --> 00:44:06.170 And I feel like, okay, you've got a lot of 1002 00:44:06.210 --> 00:44:07.230 runway with that idea. 1003 00:44:07.250 --> 00:44:11.969 Oh, it's... That's always like the greatest... realization when you're 1004 00:44:11.989 --> 00:44:13.719 like deep into a season and you're like, oh, we're 1005 00:44:13.739 --> 00:44:17.579 just getting started, you know, like that's the fun. And 1006 00:44:17.739 --> 00:44:20.840 in finding Taylor again, it's like I had this with 1007 00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:22.699 Annie in in shits. 1008 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:23.079 Yeah. 1009 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.219 Finding somebody who has done the work, found the job 1010 00:44:27.539 --> 00:44:30.360 and is ready to go and showing them to the world. 1011 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:31.820 That's a thrill. 1012 00:44:31.980 --> 00:44:32.199 Yeah. 1013 00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.699 One of the many thrills of the show, you know, 1014 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.519 working with Laurie Metcalfe, one of the. 1015 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.909 Who is it? By the way, unbelievable. She's your mom. 1016 00:44:41.389 --> 00:44:45.469 And she is, um, even when she's doing the subtlest thing. 1017 00:44:45.489 --> 00:44:45.809 Yeah. 1018 00:44:46.190 --> 00:44:47.489 She's absolutely hilarious. 1019 00:44:48.110 --> 00:44:52.030 Uh, and you know, the insufferable mom is a character 1020 00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:54.289 that's been played a million times. And then Laurie Metcalf 1021 00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:56.889 does it and you're, it's a whole new thing. 1022 00:44:57.130 --> 00:44:57.449 It is. 1023 00:44:57.789 --> 00:45:00.090 And she's so good. And it was, I mean, I've 1024 00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:03.050 been a fan of hers for, you know, like it 1025 00:45:03.090 --> 00:45:06.880 goes back and back and back. Um, But yeah, you know, 1026 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.869 Taylor is I'm so excited for people to see her. 1027 00:45:11.010 --> 00:45:13.730 I'm so excited for her to get what she's worked 1028 00:45:13.789 --> 00:45:16.550 so hard for. You know, I think that's it's there's 1029 00:45:16.570 --> 00:45:20.719 something thrilling about introducing somebody to an audience because so 1030 00:45:20.860 --> 00:45:24.539 often now it's like you can't green light a show unless. 1031 00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:27.360 It's a stacked cast. 1032 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:27.840 Yeah. 1033 00:45:28.139 --> 00:45:31.599 So to continue to tell stories with relatively up and 1034 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.320 coming actors is for me is thrilling. I include Laurie 1035 00:45:35.340 --> 00:45:38.960 Metcalf as a relatively up-and-coming actor. 1036 00:45:39.019 --> 00:45:41.489 You know, this was the project where I finally thought. 1037 00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:43.050 This is her breakout. 1038 00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:43.989 She's arrived. 1039 00:45:44.030 --> 00:45:45.289 I'm so excited for her. 1040 00:45:46.570 --> 00:45:48.510 You've talked a bunch. 1041 00:45:49.769 --> 00:45:54.670 In the past or in interviews about anxiety, feeling insecure 1042 00:45:55.190 --> 00:45:56.510 when you're growing up. And this is a topic that 1043 00:45:56.570 --> 00:45:59.449 fascinates me because, like it or not, I think

we 1044 00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:03.159 probably have to accept that that's an essential ingredient sometimes to. 1045 00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:04.610 mixture. 1046 00:46:04.630 --> 00:46:08.820 And I can't explain why that would be the case. 1047 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.760 And I feel like I'm legitimizing that kind of anxiety 1048 00:46:13.780 --> 00:46:17.000 or those kinds of mental issues. But at the same time, 1049 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.840 I also think that was a big part of my 1050 00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:23.800 situation coming along. And if I had to do it 1051 00:46:23.860 --> 00:46:26.289 again and didn't have that, I'm not sure that I 1052 00:46:26.309 --> 00:46:27.409 would be here. 1053 00:46:28.690 --> 00:46:33.210 There are certain ingredients, albeit painful ingredients, that are necessary 1054 00:46:33.369 --> 00:46:37.289 to in my case, to the storytelling. So much of 1055 00:46:37.630 --> 00:46:41.369 what I write about is how families interact with each 1056 00:46:41.409 --> 00:46:46.110 other under difficult circumstances. And if you come from a 1057 00:46:46.170 --> 00:46:50.909 Yelly family, I think this show in particular celebrates Yelly families. 1058 00:46:51.449 --> 00:46:53.909 I think people who don't come from Yelly families will 1059 00:46:53.949 --> 00:46:59.230 probably watch this in shock and horror. But if you 1060 00:46:59.269 --> 00:47:01.610 come from a Yelly family, it is a celebration of 1061 00:47:01.659 --> 00:47:05.769 the fact that anxiety is and nerves manifest in very 1062 00:47:05.889 --> 00:47:11.530 loud aggression between people. And if I didn't experience that 1063 00:47:11.909 --> 00:47:15.489 and inherit it, I wouldn't be here today. So as 1064 00:47:15.550 --> 00:47:18.250 hard as it is, there does come a point, I 1065 00:47:18.269 --> 00:47:20.550 think age is a big part of it too. Like 1066 00:47:20.690 --> 00:47:24.190 I'm now 42. I don't care as much as I 1067 00:47:24.230 --> 00:47:27.130 did when I was 20. When I was 20, everything 1068 00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:31.860 was consequential. And so when everything is consequential, and you 1069 00:47:31.949 --> 00:47:36.880 are an anxious person, you will worry about everything because 1070 00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.159 you're so unaware of how little it matters in the end. 1071 00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.400 So now I think I get to look back on 1072 00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:47.409 my own experiences and kind of the experiences I've had 1073 00:47:47.449 --> 00:47:49.150 with my family and all of that kind of stuff 1074 00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:56.869 and celebrate it instead of continue to wear it. I'm 1075 00:47:56.909 --> 00:47:58.889 a less anxious person than I am now. And I 1076 00:47:59.210 --> 00:48:02.239 do actually think at the core of the show, It's 1077 00:48:02.860 --> 00:48:06.510 an examination of what we inherit, what that kind of 1078 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:13.090 ancestral trauma that kind of trickles down from, in this case, like, 1079 00:48:14.070 --> 00:48:18.130 matriarch to Laurie to the kids. You know, the very 1080 00:48:18.230 --> 00:48:24.239 first scene of the show, Nona is dying, and she's 1081 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.480 a yeller. And then you instantly see that this yelling 1082 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.579 streak has just found its way through three generations of 1083 00:48:30.619 --> 00:48:31.679 this family. 1084 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:34.300 And all we try to do. 1085 00:48:34.179 --> 00:48:38.010 As a generation below is push back against what we're inheriting. 1086 00:48:38.780 --> 00:48:41.190 And sometimes you can do it and sometimes you can't. 1087 00:48:41.230 --> 00:48:43.610 You just have to let it happen. But it's fun 1088 00:48:43.670 --> 00:48:46.750 to be able to, like, write about the minutia of 1089 00:48:46.829 --> 00:48:50.590 anxiety and how it affects people. I think it's endlessly entertaining. 1090 00:48:50.969 --> 00:48:52.369 Now, where do you... So. 1091 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.300 When you're making the show, is the show made in Canada? 1092 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:56.760 Is it made in Los Angeles? No, in New Jersey. 1093 00:48:56.820 --> 00:49:00.019 In New Jersey, okay. So where do you live? And 1094 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.099 I need an address. 1095 00:49:03.420 --> 00:49:07.320 Well, I have been in L.A. and relocated to New 1096 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:08.989 York City to make the show. 1097 00:49:09.389 --> 00:49:09.690 That's so cool. 1098 00:49:09.710 --> 00:49:11.369 And we shot in New Jersey, and it was very 1099 00:49:12.409 --> 00:49:15.010 exciting to be back on the East Coast and experience seasons. 1100 00:49:15.030 --> 00:49:16.949 So what to you is home when you think of 1101 00:49:16.989 --> 00:49:19.090 going home? Is that Toronto? Is it L.A. 1102 00:49:19.110 --> 00:49:19.869 Now? It's L.A., yeah. 1103 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:21.340 LA, yeah. Okay. 1104 00:49:21.579 --> 00:49:26.599 That's, because I think that, I'm always fascinated by that 1105 00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.130 because home used to be Boston for me, but it's 1106 00:49:30.190 --> 00:49:32.389 not anymore because I've been gone too long. 1107 00:49:32.409 --> 00:49:36.110 And I think the more that the hometown changes, the 1108 00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:39.460 less you can relate to it. Like I was just 1109 00:49:39.539 --> 00:49:42.719 in I just came from Toronto yesterday night and I 1110 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.920 look around and it's just not the place that I 1111 00:49:46.099 --> 00:49:48.610 grew up in. So when you look around and the 1112 00:49:48.619 --> 00:49:50.969 place doesn't reflect the memories that you have, all you 1113 00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:53.769 have are the memories. It becomes less and less about 1114 00:49:53.789 --> 00:49:59.309 the actual place. So my life now is in Los Angeles. 1115 00:49:59.349 --> 00:50:02.949 Most of my friends are in Los Angeles and that 1116 00:50:03.210 --> 00:50:07.820 is home. The

hometown is is is a memory at 1117 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:08.280 this point. 1118 00:50:08.380 --> 00:50:08.550 Yeah. 1119 00:50:09.130 --> 00:50:10.829 But also, I think- Even though my parents are still 1120 00:50:10.949 --> 00:50:11.849 in my family house. 1121 00:50:12.510 --> 00:50:13.349 Oh. Oh, is that true? 1122 00:50:13.369 --> 00:50:14.510 In Toronto, right now. 1123 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:15.820 Same house, all these years? 1124 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:16.320 Yeah. 1125 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:18.780 By the way, your mom's really funny. 1126 00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:22.679 She is very funny. She's arguably funnier than my dad. Yes. Yeah. 1127 00:50:22.820 --> 00:50:24.340 Who, by the way- And he'll admit that. 1128 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:24.659 Yeah. 1129 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:27.679 Yeah. And I've told your dad all the time, I've 1130 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:28.699 never found him amusing. 1131 00:50:28.820 --> 00:50:30.079 That's right. 1132 00:50:30.380 --> 00:50:31.639 And his eyebrows go up. 1133 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:40.349 Uh-huh. No, he is such a lovely man. I met 1134 00:50:40.369 --> 00:50:42.949 all these people for the first time when I did Aspen. 1135 00:50:42.989 --> 00:50:44.829 They asked me, would you come out to do the 1136 00:50:44.889 --> 00:50:47.150 Aspen Comedy Festival? And this is just when my show 1137 00:50:47.190 --> 00:50:49.369 had kind of clicked in and it was starting to gel. 1138 00:50:49.530 --> 00:50:53.269 I remember being younger and thinking that was the coolest thing. 1139 00:50:53.869 --> 00:50:54.309 The Aspen? 1140 00:50:54.329 --> 00:50:55.250 That he got to meet you. 1141 00:50:55.389 --> 00:50:55.750 Oh, wow. 1142 00:50:55.989 --> 00:50:57.909 Okay. You got that wrong. 1143 00:50:59.389 --> 00:51:02.780 But I remember they said, Conan, we want someone to 1144 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:08.550 interview all the SCTV greats. And I thought, this is 1145 00:51:08.590 --> 00:51:10.369 a make a wish. Like I must be dying and 1146 00:51:10.409 --> 00:51:13.690 no one told me, but I went and, you know, 1147 00:51:14.130 --> 00:51:16.949 talked to everybody and interviewed them and got, did my 1148 00:51:16.989 --> 00:51:19.139 preparation and we did the thing. And when it was over, 1149 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.800 your dad said, Hey, everybody, um, everyone was starting to disperse. 1150 00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:25.300 And your dad, like a camp counselor said, Hey, everybody. Um, 1151 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:27.739 I think Conan put a lot of work into this 1152 00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:29.260 and did a really nice job. And I think we should, 1153 00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:29.780 you know, give him. 1154 00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.519 A round of applause. And I thought, would I like, 1155 00:51:32.010 --> 00:51:33.969 incredibly nice man to do that. 1156 00:51:33.989 --> 00:51:34.769 That's so nice. 1157 00:51:34.809 --> 00:51:37.489 You know, like he was taking care of me. Right. 1158 00:51:37.699 --> 00:51:39.860 He was, he saw like, Oh, wait a minute, this 1159 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.539 guy let's before we all go, let's make sure we 1160 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:43.000 do this. 1161 00:51:43.619 --> 00:51:45.260 And that always, that touched me a lot. 1162 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.929 He's a very sweet man. Yeah. He's a very well, 1163 00:51:48.969 --> 00:51:55.670 like soft, well-intentioned, sweet person. I did not inherit his goodness. 1164 00:51:55.690 --> 00:52:00.670 It says that here in your information. 1165 00:52:00.710 --> 00:52:05.699 He is a genuinely kind, like, he just, it is, 1166 00:52:06.340 --> 00:52:09.280 I can't explain it. And the number of people that 1167 00:52:09.340 --> 00:52:11.139 come up and are just like, your dad is so nice. 1168 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:12.360 And I'm like, I know. 1169 00:52:12.380 --> 00:52:14.260 But I can't help you. 1170 00:52:14.860 --> 00:52:16.739 And you are also something. 1171 00:52:20.780 --> 00:52:24.800 Well, the show is Big Mistakes. It's really funny. And 1172 00:52:25.389 --> 00:52:26.429 I'm very happy for you. 1173 00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:27.630 Thank you. 1174 00:52:28.050 --> 00:52:31.010 And please come back anytime. And also, you're part of this. 1175 00:52:31.550 --> 00:52:33.090 I get, I say this a lot, but I get 1176 00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:35.449 very excited when I meet and get to hang out with, 1177 00:52:35.869 --> 00:52:39.670 even briefly, younger talent that's part of this whole ecosystem. 1178 00:52:39.730 --> 00:52:41.710 And the fact that it's, you know, because we've had 1179 00:52:41.769 --> 00:52:42.489 Rachel here. 1180 00:52:42.510 --> 00:52:44.320 Oh, yeah. And having you here. 1181 00:52:44.969 --> 00:52:48.880 And I'm just always very pleased when I get to 1182 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.889 be around this whole community what I consider to be 1183 00:52:51.929 --> 00:52:54.320 a childlike generation that's doing really good work. 1184 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:55.539 It makes me happy. Like I get to relax. 1185 00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.260 Let's not take that compliment simply the youth factor, because 1186 00:52:58.300 --> 00:52:59.739 I don't think I'm young at all. 1187 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.400 Guess what? I am now. I love that. 1188 00:53:01.539 --> 00:53:05.530 I am at a vintage now where I'll meet what 1189 00:53:05.550 --> 00:53:07.710 I think is a kid and say, I think this 1190 00:53:07.750 --> 00:53:10.269 kid's really coming along and I want to help this kid. 1191 00:53:10.329 --> 00:53:16.199 And someone will tell me they're 55. That's their third hip. 1192 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:18.239 That's right. 1193 00:53:18.699 --> 00:53:20.739 I'm so glad I invest in facials. You know what 1194 00:53:20.780 --> 00:53:22.500 I mean? It's good to keep the skin looking young. 1195 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.420 Whatever you're doing, keep doing. That's right. 1196 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.699 Anyway, I appreciate that. Thank you. This was great.

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She calls another tax service. 1235 00:55:25.420 --> 00:55:26.360 She uses TurboTax. 1236 00:55:26.539 --> 00:55:30.170 She uses TurboTax to take care of your taxes for you. 1237 00:55:30.269 --> 00:55:30.630 That's right. 1238 00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:32.969 She demands to do it, by the way. I just 1239 00:55:33.010 --> 00:55:34.590 want to make that clear. I'm not asking her to 1240 00:55:34.610 --> 00:55:38.519 do it. She gets upset when I even toss the 1241 00:55:38.579 --> 00:55:39.260 idea out of me. 1242 00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:41.900 Sure, understood. Okay. And that's not what we're going to 1243 00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:42.460 go after here. 1244 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:42.719 Okay. 1245 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.300 What I want to investigate is you brought up at 1246 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.199 a certain point that you. 1247 00:55:48.369 --> 00:55:52.800 you write off your various, I'm going to call them trinkets, doodads. 1248 00:55:52.820 --> 00:55:57.019 What do you call them? Memorabilia? I would say arcana. 1249 00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.699 This all feels reductive. 1250 00:55:59.739 --> 00:56:04.010 They're objects of power that I love to buy. What 1251 00:56:04.050 --> 00:56:07.570 are we talking about? So listen, listen. I'm a collector. 1252 00:56:07.670 --> 00:56:11.349 I like stuff. I'm a collector of great items. And 1253 00:56:11.570 --> 00:56:13.110 things like, I'm going to give you a great example. 1254 00:56:13.130 --> 00:56:16.719 You're like Channeling Jordan, a collector of, great items? 1255 00:56:16.739 --> 00:56:20.679 Swords, like battle swords. Okay, yes. I bought a really 1256 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:24.719 cool Batman statue. A statue of Batman. That's right, a 1257 00:56:24.739 --> 00:56:28.340 Batman statue done by, in the style like Sergio, you know, 1258 00:56:28.820 --> 00:56:33.300 the Mad Magazine guy. I think it's Aragornis, I believe. Aragornis, 1259 00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:38.090 that's right. I have a number of swords, you know, flamethrower, 1260 00:56:38.170 --> 00:56:40.849 I just got an axe. But not just weapons. 1261 00:56:40.869 --> 00:56:43.230 But also, not just weapons, you also have like stuff 1262 00:56:43.250 --> 00:56:45.690 relating to various things you're into. 1263 00:56:45.789 --> 00:56:48.750 I have a dinosaur egg, a brontosaurus egg. A real one? 1264 00:56:48.889 --> 00:56:49.809 That's right. Okay. 1265 00:56:50.829 --> 00:56:53.070 And, you know, meteorites. I have several, like three or 1266 00:56:53.110 --> 00:56:56.000 four meteorites. I have a cool, it's actually 70 million 1267 00:56:56.019 --> 00:56:57.460 years old. It's a whale vertebrae. 1268 00:56:57.500 --> 00:56:57.719 Sure. 1269 00:56:57.739 --> 00:56:59.780 It's a giant, it's kind of like the size of two, 1270 00:56:59.860 --> 00:57:00.349 a big coffee can. 1271 00:57:00.380 --> 00:57:04.599 I shouldn't have said memorabilia. You collect shit. And you 1272 00:57:04.619 --> 00:57:09.500 have a lot of shit. And you write it off as, 1273 00:57:09.739 --> 00:57:14.059 Because you said you managed to mention it on the podcast. Well, 1274

00:57:14.099 --> 00:57:15.619 we use it for the podcast. 1275 00:57:15.690 --> 00:57:18.090 How do we use it? Because it's the basis of 1276 00:57:18.130 --> 00:57:20.409 comedy bits like this today. It's a basis of a 1277 00:57:20.429 --> 00:57:20.829 comedy bit. 1278 00:57:20.869 --> 00:57:21.849 You just listed 20 things. 1279 00:57:21.869 --> 00:57:22.929 And also, for instance, summer s'mores. 1280 00:57:22.949 --> 00:57:24.929 I bought a big broadsword at the Ren Faire. Which 1281 00:57:24.949 --> 00:57:25.489 was your idea. 1282 00:57:25.510 --> 00:57:25.969 Here's my point. 1283 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.420 I don't say, wouldn't it be cool if someone here 1284 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.360 had a broadsword and you said, I happen to have 1285 00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:39.860 one and you brought it in and then you were 1286 00:57:39.889 --> 00:57:42.070 able to write it off. You go out and buy 1287 00:57:42.190 --> 00:57:45.869 stuff and then you insert it into the podcast so 1288 00:57:46.369 --> 00:57:48.429 that you can then write it off. And that's why 1289 00:57:48.469 --> 00:57:52.510 I brought in Mr. David Melmed, who is our attorney, 1290 00:57:52.650 --> 00:57:54.929 who's helped us many times in the past. 1291 00:57:55.389 --> 00:57:59.030 I sense fraud. I don't know about fraud. See, there 1292 00:57:59.050 --> 00:58:03.059 we go. But, but, but, but in. 1293 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.550 Terms of, what the IRS may be looking at. We're 1294 00:58:06.590 --> 00:58:11.539 talking about section 162 of the Internal Revenue Code. 1295 00:58:11.539 --> 00:58:11.860 162. 1296 00:58:11.860 --> 00:58:17.219 And what is section 162 say? Ordinary and necessary expenses 1297 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:20.340 can be deductible. Now, I guess the question is, are 1298 00:58:20.380 --> 00:58:23.360 those ordinary and necessary? Sure, on a sore sag. 1299 00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:24.719 Are they necessary? 1300 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:29.340 It says and necessary. Is comedy necessary to this podcast? 1301 00:58:29.429 --> 00:58:31.570 Wait a minute, wait a minute. It's not comedy. 1302 00:58:32.420 --> 00:58:37.440 A brontosaurus egg is not comedy until you foisted upon 1303 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:38.320 the podcast. 1304 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.199 You barrel your way into the podcast and say, look 1305 00:58:42.219 --> 00:58:44.260 what I got. I got a brontosaurus egg. And we're 1306 00:58:44.340 --> 00:58:45.639 all like, what the fuck are you talking about, Blake? 1307 00:58:45.659 --> 00:58:46.599 Let's let Melman finish. 1308 00:58:46.940 --> 00:58:48.699 Melman, what's the rest of the law? I'll let Melman 1309 00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:49.980 finish when you don't like the way I'm going. 1310 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:50.380 Go ahead. 1311 00:58:50.420 --> 00:58:51.800 I like the way you're going. What's the rest of 1312 00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:53.949 the law? In connection with the podcast. Yes, okay. 1313 00:58:54.090 --> 00:58:57.510 All right, so let's take your brontosaurus egg, for example, right? 1314 00:58:57.530 --> 00:58:57.769 Let's. 1315 00:58:58.369 --> 00:59:01.809 Let's get past the ordinary and necessary. If you didn't, 1316 00:59:02.130 --> 00:59:06.769 bring it into the podcast, would someone bring it up? 1317 00:59:06.980 --> 00:59:08.969 Or is this something that you're doing to get a 1318 00:59:09.010 --> 00:59:12.239 write-off And I'm not going to put you on the- Well. 1319 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.000 How do they know I'm a brontosaurus if I don't 1320 00:59:14.019 --> 00:59:15.719 bring it in? Well, okay. 1321 00:59:15.739 --> 00:59:16.599 He's mentioned it. 1322 00:59:16.619 --> 00:59:18.480 We all know he has a dinosaur head. This is 1323 00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:21.079 becoming an insane who's on first routine. Yeah. 1324 00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.639 No, I wouldn't have said, you know what this podcast 1325 00:59:24.699 --> 00:59:27.460 needs is a broadsword. Or what it needs is a 1326 00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.019 brontosaurus egg. I would never bring up any of those things. 1327 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.360 And they're not comedy in and of themselves. You are 1328 00:59:35.900 --> 00:59:39.300 buying this stuff because you love it. And then you're saying, 1329 00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:43.289 I got to get this stuff onto Conan's podcast. And 1330 00:59:43.329 --> 00:59:45.889 then you're claiming that it was a necessary part of 1331 00:59:45.929 --> 00:59:46.489 your job. 1332 00:59:46.510 --> 00:59:46.690 Sure. 1333 00:59:46.929 --> 00:59:49.409 That to me feels all backwards. It could. 1334 00:59:49.449 --> 00:59:50.230 Well, so. 1335 00:59:50.949 --> 00:59:52.030 I'm going to go a little deeper on this. 1336 00:59:52.130 --> 00:59:53.289 Let's let the law decide. 1337 00:59:53.329 --> 00:59:54.829 I'm going to go a little deeper. So there's really 1338 00:59:54.889 --> 00:59:59.170 two sides to this, right? There's talent, right? And company expenses. 1339 00:59:59.690 --> 01:00:03.639 So if he's bringing this on as on-air talent, using 1340 01:00:03.659 --> 01:00:07.719 the mic, that's one thing. If you are, for example, 1341 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.400 using this as a company expense or an expense that 1342 01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:15.119 the company would deduct, that could... eat into the net 1343 01:00:15.179 --> 01:00:16.360 revenue of the podcast. 1344 01:00:16.420 --> 01:00:17.480 So can I ask a question? 1345 01:00:17.659 --> 01:00:17.840 Yes. 1346 01:00:18.219 --> 01:00:20.639 In terms of company expenses, so you're saying if I 1347 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.500 were to use the sword to defend Conan off Mike, 1348 01:00:24.019 --> 01:00:26.360 that's a company expense? No, it would have to be 1349 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.590 in connection with the podcast itself. That's what I'm saying. 1350 01:00:28.619 --> 01:00:30.889 Like he comes in to do the podcast and I'm using, 1351 01:00:30.909 --> 01:00:34.409 I'm defending him physically from attackers.

1352 01:00:34.610 --> 01:00:36.750 I'm seeing why you're not a lawyer. Oh, Jesus. 1353 01:00:36.849 --> 01:00:37.769 It's now apparent to me. 1354 01:00:37.789 --> 01:00:39.429 I'm just asking a question. Socratic method. 1355 01:00:39.590 --> 01:00:39.829 All right. 1356 01:00:39.909 --> 01:00:42.349 Do you know what I'm saying? So the act itself 1357 01:00:42.550 --> 01:00:47.000 is not deductible. Right, but the, right? So you coming 1358 01:00:47.019 --> 01:00:47.760 in with your sword. 1359 01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:48.179 Yes. 1360 01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:51.840 But us sort of cleaning up that mess could be deductible. 1361 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.139 So I'm just saying like. That mess. But I'm saying like, okay, 1362 01:00:55.420 --> 01:00:56.800 there's two things. There's talent, right? 1363 01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:57.050 Yes. 1364 01:00:57.070 --> 01:00:58.280 There's talent. Okay. 1365 01:00:58.449 --> 01:00:59.349 Conan fell asleep. 1366 01:00:59.369 --> 01:01:01.230 To make Conan safe. I didn't fall asleep. I just 1367 01:01:01.250 --> 01:01:02.170 got super sad. 1368 01:01:02.349 --> 01:01:04.429 When we were in Altadena. 1369 01:01:04.849 --> 01:01:07.150 When we recorded Summer S'mores and I Brought in My Sword, 1370 01:01:07.849 --> 01:01:10.269 we did a bit where we could hear wild animals 1371 01:01:10.289 --> 01:01:12.210 that were crazy screaming in the distance, right? 1372 01:01:12.389 --> 01:01:12.690 Yeah. 1373 01:01:12.710 --> 01:01:15.090 So could I argue to the IRS, I'm there to 1374 01:01:15.130 --> 01:01:15.909 defend Conan. 1375 01:01:15.949 --> 01:01:16.550 No, boy. 1376 01:01:16.570 --> 01:01:18.349 That's crazy. 1377 01:01:18.369 --> 01:01:20.889 No, boy. You think that people don't write stuff off 1378 01:01:20.949 --> 01:01:24.090 in crazy ways? I'm bobbing and weaving. 1379 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:26.889 Hold on a second. I don't treat the IRS that way. 1380 01:01:28.059 --> 01:01:29.579 But I guess you'd like to bob and weave and 1381 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:31.480 try and trick Uncle Sam out of his rightful due. 1382 01:01:32.820 --> 01:01:35.519 Johnny Law's got his scratch. He doesn't need my couple bucks. Okay, 1383 01:01:35.539 --> 01:01:36.800 you got to settle down. I'm going to take you 1384 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:37.699 off mic for a little bit. 1385 01:01:37.780 --> 01:01:37.980 Okay. 1386 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:39.619 I wish I had a button that silenced play. 1387 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:39.860 Okay. 1388 01:01:39.889 --> 01:01:41.510 And I would use it so routinely. I might have 1389 01:01:41.530 --> 01:01:43.409 to just put a bunch of books on top of it. 1390 01:01:43.429 --> 01:01:47.849 I'll stop talking. I want a silenced play button right 1391 01:01:47.869 --> 01:01:50.489 here and then I'm going to build permanent structures on 1392 01:01:50.570 --> 01:01:56.329 top of it. I'm not comfortable with this interpretation. I 1393 01:01:56.449 --> 01:01:59.510 do think we all need to pay our fair share.

1394 01:02:00.010 --> 01:02:03.769 I think that Those things you're buying, they bring you pleasure. 1395 01:02:03.869 --> 01:02:06.010 They bring you joy. I haven't unreleased the button yet. 1396 01:02:06.050 --> 01:02:06.650 This is the button. 1397 01:02:06.670 --> 01:02:08.570 And when I touch it, you- I have a question 1398 01:02:08.590 --> 01:02:10.369 too when you're done. Okay. 1399 01:02:10.789 --> 01:02:13.110 You'll have the floor after me and then anyone else 1400 01:02:13.130 --> 01:02:17.429 who wants to. But anyway, yeah, I guess my issue 1401 01:02:17.750 --> 01:02:21.590 is these are his hobbies. And then through the grace 1402 01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.719 of some God we don't understand who works in mysterious ways, 1403 01:02:25.179 --> 01:02:28.320 he has access to this podcast and he's bullied his 1404 01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:29.079 way up to a mic. 1405 01:02:29.099 --> 01:02:29.239 Okay. 1406 01:02:29.780 --> 01:02:33.940 And now he's inserting himself into the show and saying, hey, 1407 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:35.619 you know what I was thinking about this morning? I 1408 01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:40.039 was thinking about the Scarlet Witch's. 1409 01:02:41.139 --> 01:02:41.480 Cape. 1410 01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:43.460 That's what I was thinking about. And I'm like, the 1411 01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:47.219 Scarlet Witch? Yeah, she's a Marvel heroine. I was thinking 1412 01:02:47.260 --> 01:02:49.260 about her cape and I bought one. Let's have fun 1413 01:02:49.300 --> 01:02:56.309 talking about that. It all feels manipulative. It feels sinister. Uh, 1414 01:02:56.449 --> 01:02:59.880 and it feels like it is, um, I don't know. 1415 01:03:00.179 --> 01:03:02.059 It doesn't feel like it's in the spirit of the law. 1416 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:03.019 It's a bit overreaching. 1417 01:03:03.739 --> 01:03:03.980 Yes. 1418 01:03:04.059 --> 01:03:04.400 Yes. 1419 01:03:04.500 --> 01:03:05.139 Overreaching. 1420 01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.639 And then let me, hold on. We'll get to you, boy. 1421 01:03:07.780 --> 01:03:10.050 And eventually, I don't know what month, but we'll get there. 1422 01:03:10.670 --> 01:03:11.630 Uh, Sona, what do you want to say? 1423 01:03:11.769 --> 01:03:14.559 I wanted to say, All of these things are what 1424 01:03:14.619 --> 01:03:16.059 make Blay Blay. 1425 01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:17.019 I know, yeah. 1426 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.019 And you've mined a lot of that from him, who 1427 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.360 he is. You've talked about his watches a lot. 1428 01:03:22.380 --> 01:03:24.320 You've talked about the fact that he has a giant 1429 01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.039 wall-sized printout of his face in his apartment. 1430 01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:29.500 Yeah. We don't need to give him more ammunition. 1431 01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:32.599 What is Blay without the dinosaur eggs? 1432 01:03:32.699 --> 01:03:34.820 These all make who he is. But listen, I can 1433 01:03:34.969 --> 01:03:38.690 see his watches.

I can see these things. And Blay 1434 01:03:38.809 --> 01:03:42.900 doesn't need to work at making himself seem... more ridiculous 1435 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:47.710 or man-childy. He doesn't need to work at it. This 1436 01:03:47.769 --> 01:03:50.090 is my problem sometimes with play is that he should 1437 01:03:50.110 --> 01:03:55.400 just trust in his natural nerdiness. And his natural Peter 1438 01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:57.099 Pan syndrome, you know. 1439 01:03:57.579 --> 01:03:59.539 No, and this is all the stuff that you have. 1440 01:04:00.059 --> 01:04:00.840 It's natural. 1441 01:04:00.980 --> 01:04:02.960 And I can see that you wear a different ironic 1442 01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.760 watch every day that never costs more than $ 3 and 1443 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:07.730 often doesn't have hands on it so you can't tell 1444 01:04:07.769 --> 01:04:10.230 time because you've got nowhere to be. I can see 1445 01:04:10.289 --> 01:04:11.570 all this shit myself. 1446 01:04:11.730 --> 01:04:14.949 I don't need help. But when you come in and 1447 01:04:14.989 --> 01:04:15.949 yours plan. 1448 01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.190 is today I'm going to dominate the podcast with my 1449 01:04:19.250 --> 01:04:21.849 brontosaurus egg that I just bought. 1450 01:04:22.429 --> 01:04:23.349 Then I smell a rat. 1451 01:04:23.610 --> 01:04:24.329 I smell a rat. 1452 01:04:25.190 --> 01:04:25.719 Can I speak? 1453 01:04:26.050 --> 01:04:26.280 Yeah. 1454 01:04:26.659 --> 01:04:28.039 Okay. 1455 01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:30.340 Here's what I want to say. I think it is, 1456 01:04:30.539 --> 01:04:32.960 to Sona's point, we come up with a lot of 1457 01:04:32.980 --> 01:04:38.889 bits on the spot. On this podcast. And yes, I 1458 01:04:38.929 --> 01:04:40.329 have a lot of cool stuff. 1459 01:04:40.590 --> 01:04:40.909 All right. 1460 01:04:41.130 --> 01:04:45.340 No, you don't. You don't have a lot of cool stuff. Fine, fine, fine, fine. 1461 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.719 But my point being, I have this stuff anyway. I 1462 01:04:49.739 --> 01:04:52.920 think it's, what I want to say is, I don't 1463 01:04:53.019 --> 01:04:53.800 go into. 1464 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.820 You have it anyway. Well, I think you may want 1465 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:59.590 to revisit that. No, listen, listen. You may want to revise. 1466 01:04:59.610 --> 01:05:00.409 Hold on, hold on. 1467 01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:03.289 Freeze, freeze. You may want to revise that. Go ahead. 1468 01:05:03.329 --> 01:05:06.250 You don't. If you had it anyway, you probably couldn't 1469 01:05:06.269 --> 01:05:08.650 deduct it. But now. So I'm giving you a chance 1470 01:05:08.690 --> 01:05:11.309 to know what I'm saying is like this. What I'm 1471 01:05:11.329 --> 01:05:12.590 saying is you want to fix what you just said. 1472 01:05:13.170 --> 01:05:14.829 I'll say this. I'm not going to fix it because 1473 01:05:14.989 --> 01:05:19.340 it's honest. I have a sword. OK, right. I have 1474 01:05:19.380 --> 01:05:19.760 a sword. 1475 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:20.219 Many. 1476 01:05:20.300 --> 01:05:22.599 And I'm going to the Ren Faire. All right. And 1477 01:05:22.619 --> 01:05:25.079 I'm at the Ren Faire. And I'm like, oh, man. 1478 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:28.360 I should get a sword and bring it in because 1479 01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:31.050 it could be a good comedy bit. So I buy 1480 01:05:31.250 --> 01:05:34.510 another sword and that's what I'm writing off because it's 1481 01:05:34.530 --> 01:05:36.889 for a comedy bit. I'm not writing off the one 1482 01:05:36.929 --> 01:05:39.260 I already have. I'm like, I'm taking things from my 1483 01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:41.619 life and heightening them to use a comedy. 1484 01:05:41.780 --> 01:05:43.599 OK, so why? Why do you think this show needs 1485 01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.219 so much help with comedy? I don't think it needs help. 1486 01:05:46.300 --> 01:05:50.329 Why do you think this show is just, is bereft 1487 01:05:50.389 --> 01:05:52.829 of all entertainment unless you go out and buy a 1488 01:05:52.829 --> 01:05:55.590 feathered helmet? And bring it in to save us. 1489 01:05:55.949 --> 01:05:59.590 To save poor Conan O'Brien. Can't think of a thing. 1490 01:05:59.650 --> 01:06:01.809 That's projection. Guess what I bought? I just bought some 1491 01:06:01.909 --> 01:06:03.829 underwear made of caramel at a rent fair. 1492 01:06:04.210 --> 01:06:06.949 I would buy that. That's projection. I do not do that. 1493 01:06:07.150 --> 01:06:09.869 As a producer, I like to give my host a 1494 01:06:09.949 --> 01:06:14.010 buffet of choices from which he can... from which he 1495 01:06:14.050 --> 01:06:16.829 can pick and choose. Maybe he's going to, maybe I'm 1496 01:06:16.909 --> 01:06:20.300 offering mac and cheese. Maybe when we're saying, what should 1497 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.179 we do for a segment? And Sona says, oh, this 1498 01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:25.219 happened to me. Hopping is like, this happened to me. 1499 01:06:25.420 --> 01:06:27.440 I say, hey, I just bought a sword at the 1500 01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:31.000 rent fair. What do you think about this? Sometimes you 1501 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.619 choose from my bucket. Sometimes you choose from others. And 1502 01:06:33.659 --> 01:06:36.829 if you choose from my bucket, then, you know, it's 1503 01:06:36.949 --> 01:06:39.510 all worked out. Choose from my bucket. What I do 1504 01:06:39.570 --> 01:06:42.230 is I live for this podcast. Can I write off stuff? 1505 01:06:42.949 --> 01:06:45.670 I live my life in service of this podcast. And 1506 01:06:45.690 --> 01:06:47.449 that means buying my edibles. 1507 01:06:47.570 --> 01:06:48.250 You can't stop. 1508 01:06:48.329 --> 01:06:50.750 You can't stop. 1509 01:06:50.789 --> 01:06:52.510 You talked about going to Disneyland with your kids. 1510 01:06:52.550 --> 01:06:52.760 Yeah. 1511 01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:54.050 Can I write those tickets? 1512 01:06:54.110 --> 01:06:54.239 OK.

1513 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:57.199 All right. I'm going to use my wife's favorite phrase, 1514 01:06:57.679 --> 01:06:59.519 which is there's a lot to unpack here. 1515 01:06:59.539 --> 01:07:01.909 That's for you, Liza. Stop saying it. 1516 01:07:02.340 --> 01:07:06.219 And we are going to continue this in another episode 1517 01:07:06.300 --> 01:07:09.880 because this is vital, vital to the American interest. 1518 01:07:12.269 --> 01:07:16.010 Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, with Conan O'Brien, Sonam Ovsessian, 1519 01:07:16.289 --> 01:07:20.400 and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced 1520 01:07:20.460 --> 01:07:24.159 by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross, and Nick Liao. Theme song 1521 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:27.480 by The White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. 1522 01:07:28.059 --> 01:07:28.949 Take it away, Jimmy. 1523 01:07:32.570 --> 01:07:35.730 Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair. And our associate talent 1524 01:07:35.769 --> 01:07:39.489 producer is Jennifer Samples. Engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez 1525 01:07:39.570 --> 01:07:43.530 and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent 1526 01:07:43.550 --> 01:07:46.750 booking by Paula Davis, Gina Batista, and Brit Kahn. You 1527 01:07:46.769 --> 01:07:49.309 can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts, and 1528 01:07:49.349 --> 01:07:51.909 you might find your review read on a future episode. 1529 01:07:52.269 --> 01:07:55.949 Got a question for Conan? Call the Team Coco hotline 1530 01:07:56.289 --> 01:07:59.670 at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It, too, could be 1531 01:07:59.710 --> 01:08:02.230 featured on a future episode. You can also get three 1532 01:08:02.289 --> 01:08:06.440 free months of SiriusXM when you sign up at SiriusXM.com 1533 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.630 slash Conan. And if you haven't already, please subscribe to 1534 01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:12.110 Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend wherever fine. 1535 01:08:11.909 --> 01:08:29.670 Podcasts are downloaded. Good nights are about the people, the laughs, 1536 01:08:30.189 --> 01:08:32.949 the real moments you don't want to miss. So why 1537 01:08:33.010 --> 01:08:38.020 step outside? Velo tobacco-free nicotine pouches fits seamlessly into your night. 1538 01:08:38.260 --> 01:08:43.159 Convenient and full of flavor. No breaks, no interruptions. Velo anytime, 1539 01:08:43.300 --> 01:08:47.159 anywhere nicotine pouches. 18 and over contains tobacco-free nicotine and 1540 01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:49.399 addictive substance. If you're new to Velo, start with Mellow. 1541 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:51.010 You should not use this product if you do not 1542 01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:51.909 already use nicotine. 1543 01:08:54.449 --> 01:08:57.100 With super values, real rewards, prices, you can now get 1544 01:08:57.140 --> 01:08:59.609 weekly savings on thousands of brands you know and love 1545 01:08:59.649 --> 01:09:01.739 when you... scan at the till. All you have to 1546 01:09:01.779 --> 01:09:05.069 do is simply download your Real Rewards app, scan the 1547 01:09:05.170 --> 01:09:08.069 app at the till, and get great savings on your shopping. 1548 01:09:08.869 --> 01:09:10.850 New Real Rewards prices from Super Value. 1549 01:09:11.229 --> 01:09:12.109 Yes, you scan.