บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode 26: Coach Gary Joseph 5xState Champ

hardly go without saying that and things. 04:23.420 --> 04:34.045 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you see a lot more of the recruiting going on in high schools and you still a lot more of the kid moving for, you know, basically moving for an IL money and things like that and things. 04:34.065 --> 04:37.886 [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, most of the kids, you know, are still the same. 04:37.946 --> 04:39.367 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just the programs have changed. 04:40.207 --> 04:41.448 [SPEAKER_01]: The programs have changed. 04:42.235 --> 04:45.616 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you, what are your thoughts on the portal coach? 04:45.916 --> 04:48.797 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're sitting there promoting no loyalty. 04:49.297 --> 04:56.338 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and there's one thing that, you know, all of us that turn and push with our kids is, you know, they're not playing for themselves. 04:56.358 --> 04:58.119 [SPEAKER_03]: They're playing for Katie High School. 04:58.139 --> 05:03.360 [SPEAKER_03]: And now, you know, when you start a portal and plays like that, well, they're not playing for a university. 05:03.380 --> 05:05.300 [SPEAKER_03]: They're playing for the all-mighty dollar. 05:05.580 --> 05:07.281 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, and it's changed. 05:07.341 --> 05:10.842 [SPEAKER_03]: And kids are seeing that, you know, we have kids being recruited now 05:12.743 --> 05:18.950 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I owe money and stuff and you know, and is it enough or how much is enough and how much is too much and how much is the kid worth? 05:19.851 --> 05:20.893 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's the bad thing. 05:20.933 --> 05:27.240 [SPEAKER_03]: If it gets in a high school football then how do you sit there and say that this kid's more important than the other kid that you have in your program? 05:27.421 --> 05:31.045 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, they're not, you know, they may be better football player but it's not more important. 05:31.668 --> 05:42.572 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, in our program, every kid is important there and it's important that every kid's coach and every kid has the opportunity to sit and do well and things, you know, it's change high school football. 05:43.031 --> 06:04.695 [SPEAKER_03]: big time right so how when a recruiter comes and wants to talk to one of your boys and one and what if one of your parents say hey coach how do we go about this like how do we go venture through this well most of them they know I've had it have been and I've they're getting agents and stuff and things and now oh so now the high school kids get an agents and stuff and a parent or yes and it's gotten to be to that point and 06:05.275 --> 06:06.456 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's not a good thing. 06:06.516 --> 06:17.742 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a good thing for kids, you know, because now the aid is for taking money from their RIO stuff and they're taking, you know, when they sign these contracts with them, then they'll take money for their college stuff and things and stuff. 06:17.822 --> 06:26.947 [SPEAKER_03]: And our contracts are getting, you know, it's a sit there and help a kid is one thing to sit there and start taking a money for a kid that doesn't know me, but there's another. 06:27.827 --> 06:28.267 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 06:28.287 --> 06:30.569 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even realize they were hiring agents. 06:30.729 --> 06:30.969 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 06:31.935 --> 06:34.276 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she's fun. 06:34.296 --> 06:36.536 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about that and that blew your mind? 06:36.836 --> 06:40.818 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't good enough to ever have those types of problems. 06:40.918 --> 06:42.318 [SPEAKER_02]: I never had any that. 06:42.418 --> 06:43.638 [SPEAKER_02]: I would have never had to worry about that. 06:43.958 --> 06:44.239 [SPEAKER_02]: So. 06:45.219 --> 06:45.359 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 06:45.419 --> 06:49.040 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but yes, it's that part of this Chinese high school football. 06:49.880 --> 07:10.602 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, the NIO is struggling, I mean, the NIO is struggling right now to, you know, keep the kids under check because they're not supposed to be being paid to pay high school football or anything else to the stuff, so it's a difficult situation and they get frustrated and the coaches get frustrated, you know, buy it and stuff, but you know, until they find a way to stop at this school and continue being that way. 07:12.945 --> 07:31.969 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to ask you because a lot of people, just from me, you know, interviewing people from Katie High School, a lot of people have commented from other districts, what's the biggest misconception people have about Katie High School, especially Katie Football program. 07:33.247 --> 07:57.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think that people don't understand that they're more not the most talented team most of the time on the field, you know, our kids put in an exorbitant amount of time to sit there and be as good as they are, they work at it and they have great work at the same great work habits and they're not afraid to get dirty, you know, right now because of the wet ball, our kids get up and their practice started five in a morning. 07:58.497 --> 08:02.460 [SPEAKER_03]: So you have to make a sacrifice to sit there and practice at five in the morning and stuff and things. 08:02.980 --> 08:15.849 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, there are high school kids and a lot of them don't even eat breakfast and stuff, which is not really good for them and stuff, but they are able to get to 90% of our kids, get to practice on time by five in the morning because they want to be a part of it. 08:16.170 --> 08:22.894 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the biggest misconception is we have all the best athletes, great athlete. 08:22.934 --> 08:26.117 [SPEAKER_03]: We have some great football players, we have some great high school football players that 08:26.737 --> 08:39.487 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's always in quite the quake to be

in a good college football player, but, you know, the thing that works, you know, we tell them we want them to be the best high school football player they can be played for Katie High School and we're about the next level when they get there. 08:40.548 --> 08:41.629 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, that's great. 08:42.169 --> 08:42.429 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 08:43.770 --> 08:51.677 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know this, Fania, but I'm pretty sure you're aware that Katie ISD just did open enrollment for high schools. 08:52.767 --> 09:02.790 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you are from out of the district and you're wanting to come into any of these high schools, you can come not necessarily saying that you're going to get in. 09:04.410 --> 09:08.771 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about that because I think when five was doing some research, didn't nor sure do that. 09:09.211 --> 09:12.812 [SPEAKER_03]: They still do it and I think, but you know, for KDIs, for KDIs, it's 09:15.897 --> 09:22.779 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he found out in the rest of this story, you know, they're letting 100 kids go for high school and things. 09:23.179 --> 09:29.341 [SPEAKER_03]: And they have to be cleared by the, the year register at your school before you can even talk to them. 09:29.381 --> 09:31.221 [SPEAKER_03]: We've been instructed not to even say anything. 09:31.241 --> 09:32.822 [SPEAKER_03]: You're talking to a kid if they call about it. 09:32.882 --> 09:36.663 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not up to us until they actually have talked to the professional register and stuff. 09:37.442 --> 09:50.091 [SPEAKER_03]: and these kids coming in like that and like this they have to they can't play bark of athletes for a year and no matter what they have to sit out in your they have to sit out here so basically you know if you're not going to be able to come to see a year and think you're going to play anything 09:50.727 --> 10:17.832 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but that's the way the rules used to be everywhere and, you know, back when we were coaching our, you know, and our the 80s and stuff, those were the rules that if you removed or transferred, you had to sit there and couldn't play varsity, you play sub varsity football with our classmates, but you couldn't play varsity football for a year, and then they change that rule and, you know, and it's gone to, you know, different, you know, things and they get for a fix, but right now that's the moving rule as far as KDIC's 10:20.990 --> 10:24.338 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we take a break and talk about how Andrew Vaughan is a great basketball player? 10:25.762 --> 10:28.549 [SPEAKER_03]: We're not, we're not, that will be a long conversation. 10:29.990 --> 10:33.893 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't come on this share to be harassed as I'm sinking in the world. 10:33.973 --> 10:35.735 [SPEAKER_01]: Why aren't you a great basketball player? 10:35.855 --> 10:36.636 [SPEAKER_02]: Terrible basketball player. 10:36.956 --> 10:37.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I have no business. 10:37.857 --> 10:39.778 [SPEAKER_02]: I played one year basketball and it was terrible. 10:41.139 --> 10:41.580 [SPEAKER_02]: Terrible. 10:42.040 --> 10:42.881 [SPEAKER_02]: I think for everybody. 10:43.461 --> 10:44.702 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what is it? 10:45.122 --> 10:45.683 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he right? 10:45.743 --> 10:46.564 [SPEAKER_01]: He's right. 10:46.664 --> 10:47.244 [SPEAKER_03]: He's right. 10:47.725 --> 10:49.226 [SPEAKER_03]: We had a goal on the house and stuff. 10:49.266 --> 10:50.627 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's come over and play over there. 10:51.247 --> 10:55.351 [SPEAKER_03]: And my house would beat up terribly bad by him and his shooting ability and stuff. 10:55.371 --> 10:56.432 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's okay. 10:56.872 --> 11:00.613 [SPEAKER_02]: You know that I will tell you, I was, I guarantee I was the most aggressive kid in the better. 11:00.913 --> 11:01.693 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. 11:01.873 --> 11:03.334 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't, I don't think like that. 11:03.354 --> 11:04.874 [SPEAKER_02]: You used to be the big joke. 11:05.074 --> 11:07.815 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, I don't think I ever made it through a game without like foul enough. 11:07.935 --> 11:09.675 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that was my kind of claim to fame. 11:10.195 --> 11:14.236 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you tell me one story about this guy like, was a funny story? 11:15.077 --> 11:16.017 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever get in trouble? 11:18.217 --> 11:24.141 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we used to play flag, flag football in their backyard, not flag, hand touch. 11:24.182 --> 11:28.525 [SPEAKER_02]: We'd really play tackle, but every once in a while we could talk, go Joseph and his brother into playing with us. 11:28.825 --> 11:29.766 [SPEAKER_02]: They'd be our quarterbacks. 11:30.206 --> 11:30.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 11:30.986 --> 11:33.148 [SPEAKER_02]: I was a spastic, spastic kid, like. 11:33.927 --> 12:01.112 [SPEAKER_02]: He can tell you everything I did was like a thousand miles an hour like I was all over the place super hyper He played with us one time and we're not one time, but he's a place several times and the ball rolled out of bounds And he went to get it and he was leaning over by their swing set and I ran over and like just Not thinking like kind of pushed him because we're playing flag football well There was a bolt hanging out of his swing set and it caught him right above his eye. 12:01.312 --> 12:01.972 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, you're I 12:03.182 --> 12:23.762 [SPEAKER_02]: and he had to get stitches and I'll never forget like so think about this like I was terrified of this man like this guy like I said when I was a kid Gary doesn't feel like 15 feet tall in like like he said he was like 15 feet like we he was and he was he was always super cool but like he's the one who got me to swallow my first pill because I was scared to not learn how to swallow 12:24.443 --> 12:28.346 [SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, so I pushed him into the swing set this bolt caught him right above the eye.

12:28.786 --> 12:33.149 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll never forget, like, imagine being like, I was probably Gabe's, I just really thinner 11. 12:33.530 --> 12:38.233 [SPEAKER_02]: I was standing in their driveway as his brother was driving him to the emergency yard. 12:38.974 --> 12:39.914 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just remember, 12:40.755 --> 12:50.462 [SPEAKER_02]: Coach Joseph turning and looking at me from the car at our eyes locking and I was like, I made dead Man like I literally like went home and I was like, what did he say to you nothing? 12:50.582 --> 12:51.302 [SPEAKER_01]: He said nothing. 12:51.342 --> 12:58.007 [SPEAKER_02]: He literally saw him leave he got like after I pushed him He turned around and he grabbed me and he was bleeding And I think I was just shocked. 12:58.027 --> 13:04.011 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh my god, and he goes, it's okay And then like I think he knew like I don't know he couldn't see it, right? 13:04.031 --> 13:06.093 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he knew it was probably pretty good because it was 13:06.911 --> 13:12.813 [SPEAKER_02]: Bleady like and I will tell you like not it's probably not the funniest story, but I will tell you like that was probably the most scared I was in my life 13:13.988 --> 13:38.145 [SPEAKER_02]: The funniest story was one night I stayed over while my parents were out of town and I just happened you know that's like you get a random illness yeah I got like I guess like a stomach bug while staying with them and coach my parents were out of town I was sleeping over at their house and coach Joseph like they put me in a guest room him and Miss Joseph and at one point I didn't know how to swallow pills at kid I was at kid I had to do chew a bulltile and all 13:39.787 --> 13:41.269 [SPEAKER_01]: But until you're a 14-year-old. 13:41.289 --> 13:42.470 [SPEAKER_02]: Not literally, not literally. 13:42.630 --> 13:46.994 [SPEAKER_02]: And the reason why though is because I was staying with them, and he brought me like an adult. 13:47.215 --> 13:48.596 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I had a terrible terrible headache. 13:49.237 --> 13:52.260 [SPEAKER_02]: And he handed it and I put it in my little hands. 13:52.620 --> 13:53.381 [SPEAKER_02]: And he just take this. 13:53.441 --> 13:55.523 [SPEAKER_02]: And I looked at him and he got, I got coach. 13:55.863 --> 13:57.105 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't swallow pills. 13:58.700 --> 14:00.642 [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, put it in your mouth and swallow it. 14:00.702 --> 14:03.364 [SPEAKER_02]: And when I tell you, like, I literally was so scared. 14:03.824 --> 14:07.968 [SPEAKER_02]: I put this pillow on mouth, I took a drink of water and I swallow it, it never had a problem with swollen pills again. 14:08.468 --> 14:09.809 [SPEAKER_02]: From then on, I was like, I get it. 14:10.290 --> 14:14.233 [SPEAKER_02]: But I was so terrified because at home, I would act like a crazy person. 14:14.253 --> 14:16.535 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd spit the pillow out, like I would throw a fit, whatever. 14:17.215 --> 14:20.258 [SPEAKER_02]: At this specific time, like I was not going to do that. 14:20.278 --> 14:21.979 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that pill was going down one way or another. 14:25.281 --> 14:28.203 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we can also say that you were a chicken shit, but that's okay. 14:28.623 --> 14:29.703 [SPEAKER_01]: It all went down nice. 14:31.024 --> 14:41.529 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, he was like not only was he like a great coach, but like I remember like he was a great dad in the neighborhood, like they took me under their wing, him and Mr. as a for amazing. 14:42.409 --> 14:47.772 [SPEAKER_02]: I could sit here all day and talk about like how integral they were because I was literally over there all the time. 14:48.307 --> 14:52.036 [SPEAKER_02]: I pretty am pretty sure Miss Sheila still has like a IOU written from me. 14:52.056 --> 14:53.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. 14:53.860 --> 14:54.922 [SPEAKER_02]: From a like favorite. 14:55.364 --> 14:58.431 [SPEAKER_02]: But like yeah, now it was, I mean, literally I lived at the house. 14:58.898 --> 15:11.063 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's so funny because everybody is like really close coach because like I had to call Miss Carp to get you on to get us on the schedule with you and she's like no honey, that's not going to work. 15:11.303 --> 15:16.706 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, and it's like if you're going to be, if you're going to interview him, we can't do it around practice. 15:16.806 --> 15:18.467 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be in the afternoon. 15:18.487 --> 15:19.947 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess ma'am. 15:20.207 --> 15:20.688 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, ma'am. 15:20.788 --> 15:21.308 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, 15:21.928 --> 15:30.650 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're Mrs. Carp his secretary knows him so well and knows that if he's going to do it or if he's not and she told me she goes, I'm going to put it on his schedule. 15:30.670 --> 15:31.650 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get him there. 15:34.150 --> 15:40.912 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's it's more like a family and it like starts in Katie Elementary and then it goes all the way up. 15:41.452 --> 15:44.652 [SPEAKER_01]: But what is the funniest practice. 15:45.313 --> 15:47.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait coach, we got to talk about something. 15:49.376 --> 15:52.699 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw a YouTube video with you in Borat. 15:55.361 --> 15:55.841 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 15:56.302 --> 15:59.104 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the most funniest video ever. 15:59.224 --> 16:01.306 [SPEAKER_01]: Was it, did you know that Borat was coming? 16:01.866 --> 16:02.787 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I did. 16:03.267 --> 16:04.008 [SPEAKER_03]: It was for John's. 16:04.228 --> 16:10.333 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I knew what was going on because John didn't set me up there because he didn't want to do it and stuff. 16:10.353 --> 16:11.154 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't want to do it. 16:11.194 --> 16:11.994 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to do it. 16:13.099 --> 16:19.582 [SPEAKER_03]: So he asked me if

I would do it and I, okay, you know, that's what you want to talk about. 16:19.602 --> 16:29.226 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I mean, it didn't take long, you know, figure out what was going on and stuff and things and you had to play along and stuff, but, you know, it was a long, good fun and stuff too. 16:29.633 --> 16:31.614 [SPEAKER_01]: That, hey, have you seen that video? 16:31.914 --> 16:37.658 [SPEAKER_02]: I did, but I would never bring that up, because I would never, like I could have said, like, of all the people. 16:37.678 --> 16:39.019 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know he was passed on. 16:39.039 --> 16:45.703 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, just of all the people in this world that I could think of pranking and thinking it was funny, like, Kocca is up to isn't on that list. 16:45.823 --> 16:47.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, I can't believe you would say yes. 16:48.384 --> 16:50.626 [SPEAKER_01]: And do it, but wait a play along with that. 16:50.646 --> 16:53.327 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to support of it and stuff. 16:53.507 --> 16:54.748 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you, what was, 16:58.025 --> 17:00.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Before practice, what do you have before practice? 17:00.328 --> 17:02.170 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have coffee before practice? 17:02.491 --> 17:05.355 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't drink coffee, and never drink coffee and stuff. 17:05.395 --> 17:07.998 [SPEAKER_03]: I know where base says you can't survive and before with that coffee. 17:08.218 --> 17:09.260 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't drink coffee, coach. 17:09.300 --> 17:10.601 [SPEAKER_03]: Nope. 17:10.641 --> 17:11.723 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you have before practice? 17:12.860 --> 17:13.721 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 17:14.441 --> 17:16.102 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, a lot of it too. 17:16.502 --> 17:17.643 [SPEAKER_03]: You go on this evening. 17:17.863 --> 17:19.824 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I mean, but when. 17:20.024 --> 17:23.727 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it's, you know, it's a big thing that's up and no, I don't drink coffee. 17:23.747 --> 17:28.389 [SPEAKER_03]: I can sit there and get hyped up enough for that coffee and stuff. 17:28.529 --> 17:31.471 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't have to have monsters like some people or anything. 17:31.611 --> 17:33.672 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we know like a lion over here. 17:33.692 --> 17:34.733 [SPEAKER_01]: We got 600 milligrams a day. 17:36.914 --> 17:37.715 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I couldn't even tell you. 17:38.035 --> 17:40.517 [SPEAKER_02]: I get this point between the espresso and the monsters. 17:40.617 --> 17:42.398 [SPEAKER_01]: And now the coffee shop. 17:42.558 --> 17:45.701 [SPEAKER_02]: The coffee shop, the latte, yeah. 17:45.841 --> 17:51.305 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask who is the most funniest kiddo that you have ever coached? 17:51.345 --> 17:53.206 [SPEAKER_01]: That this kid just makes you just giggle. 17:53.767 --> 17:55.448 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there have been a lot of money. 17:55.568 --> 17:57.770 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't feel like he's in the narrow down to one.

17:58.270 --> 17:59.231 [SPEAKER_03]: All of them have stories. 17:59.271 --> 18:02.293 [SPEAKER_03]: You know that, and I've been a coach before and stuff. 18:02.828 --> 18:08.578 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, you think it's not how it is, you know, like they really didn't say that. 18:11.938 --> 18:33.427 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that's the great part about being a coach, and getting the coach kids and stuff is you hear all kinds of different stories, and also you hear a lot of sad stories too, and about what kids have overcome to do that and stuff, and as a coach, one thing you always don't want to do is pre-judge kids and things, because 18:38.002 --> 18:44.346 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to mention to everybody that this guy, I see him at church. 18:44.386 --> 18:47.968 [SPEAKER_01]: We go to church every Saturday and he delivers communion. 18:48.589 --> 18:50.030 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, how long you've been doing that coach? 18:50.610 --> 18:51.991 [SPEAKER_03]: On time, I don't even know. 18:52.011 --> 18:56.194 [SPEAKER_01]: Since I was in, well, since I've grown up, and you know what? 18:56.674 --> 18:58.335 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you've ever missed an Ash Wednesday. 18:58.935 --> 19:01.197 [SPEAKER_03]: No, because I'm there at mass. 19:01.947 --> 19:04.909 [SPEAKER_01]: And so are you, and sometimes he's got his coaches with him too. 19:05.069 --> 19:07.810 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I say, I'll stay and he's come over with this and stuff too. 19:08.371 --> 19:13.854 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's, you know, I grew up in a, you know, house over where going to church was important. 19:14.214 --> 19:19.017 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, my dad was a Catholic and we were in church every Sunday and stuff and things. 19:19.037 --> 19:24.220 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, as I expect, you know, my kids to be, and their kids to be into and think. 19:24.920 --> 19:35.963 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you have to sit down too to be there and stop and think, you know, you're a Catholic and that's just part of it and stuff and things and But non me don't feel like it you have to do something you need to do. 19:36.003 --> 19:37.043 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you volunteer. 19:37.303 --> 19:37.783 [SPEAKER_03]: Well true. 19:38.004 --> 19:38.664 [SPEAKER_01]: You volunteer. 19:38.684 --> 19:39.764 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to volunteer. 19:39.864 --> 19:50.887 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't but you know I don't I want to be and wanted to be a part of the church and stuff and to do that Sit there and be able to help out and stuff was part of it and stuff and you know and that's 19:51.507 --> 19:55.228 [SPEAKER_03]: What, you know, I've learned from my father, you know, who was a coach for a long time. 19:55.268 --> 19:58.749 [SPEAKER_03]: You have to have a servant hard to sit in and be good at this profession and stuff. 19:58.769 --> 20:00.329 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, that's why I've done it. 20:00.989 --> 20:01.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Where was your dad from? 20:02.770 --> 20:03.230 [SPEAKER_01]: Where do you coach? 20:03.530 --> 20:04.210 [SPEAKER_03]: He coached him. 20:04.230 --> 20:05.450 [SPEAKER_03]: A long life placement. 20:05.510 --> 20:08.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Coach was an warden and, you know, an warden high school. 20:08.951 --> 20:13.612 [SPEAKER_03]: And he left there and became the executive director of the high school coach association. 20:13.892 --> 20:16.073 [SPEAKER_03]: So, he did that for about 20 years and thanks. 20:16.133 --> 20:17.793 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the stuff. 20:17.813 --> 20:18.133 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 20:22.147 --> 20:35.985 [SPEAKER_03]: and things and stuff and just how to handle kids and how to take care of kids and making their priorities the right thing and it's not just about when and then losing this about helping these kids grow up and pin successful in the next part of their life too. 20:36.917 --> 20:42.021 [SPEAKER_01]: After a tough loss, what's the first thing you go back to back there in the room and tell the guys? 20:42.542 --> 20:59.156 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I just depends on how they play and stuff and things, I mean, it's like everything else, you know, they prepared and, you know, and it'll tell you the thing that, you know, we demanded from them every day, what's their best, you know, whether, you know, if they're best wasn't good enough, and they've done their best, and we had nothing to be ashamed of. 20:59.985 --> 21:03.707 [SPEAKER_03]: They prepared hard and underbest and we had nothing to be ashamed of. 21:03.747 --> 21:09.751 [SPEAKER_03]: They walk out of the dressing room with their head, hit it, held high and understand it. 21:10.092 --> 21:15.055 [SPEAKER_03]: It's about the next one and stuff, and luckily while he was there in high school, we didn't have any loss of stuff. 21:15.075 --> 21:23.380 [SPEAKER_03]: That was good and I didn't have to fight them, but it's you always try to, and after the game, it's you beat yourself up pretty good when you don't win and stuff and things but stuff. 21:23.440 --> 21:27.323 [SPEAKER_03]: It's always what we've done to help him win and stuff, but again, 21:31.473 --> 21:36.037 [SPEAKER_03]: everything, it will be very smooth, silent or anything else like that. 21:36.097 --> 21:38.419 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to have rough waters and you've got to be able to handle it. 21:38.639 --> 21:41.921 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's one thing our kids have got to be able to do as it get through life. 21:41.961 --> 21:44.003 [SPEAKER_03]: They've got to handle tough things that happen to them. 21:44.043 --> 21:48.806 [SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully they've learned in high school and part of that's like program how to handle adversity and things. 21:48.846 --> 21:49.747 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a big part of it. 21:50.347 --> 21:57.689 [SPEAKER_01]: You think that your high school boys, the transition from high school to college is a lot smoother going through your program? 21:57.849 --> 22:10.973 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it should, I mean, and

that's my part of it and stuff, but, you know, it's not how, it's not about, you know, Gary Joseph, it's about them and how they handle it and what they've done to set them for prayer themselves for that, you know. 22:11.352 --> 22:15.374 [SPEAKER_03]: hopefully I'll prepare all our kids and we'll be able to play the next level in things. 22:15.994 --> 22:22.557 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, where I can tell you, you know, we coach all our kids hard, whether the first trainer or a fist ring and stuff. 22:22.577 --> 22:24.378 [SPEAKER_03]: They're all going to be coach hard and stuff. 22:24.418 --> 22:29.601 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the expectation aren't going to be the same for all of them, but all of them are going to be coach hard and all the expectations. 22:29.641 --> 22:30.501 [SPEAKER_03]: All of them do their best. 22:32.242 --> 22:33.282 [SPEAKER_01]: And do you think that's the secret? 22:33.863 --> 22:36.304 [SPEAKER_01]: Just tell them to work hard and put your priorities right? 22:36.968 --> 22:51.929 [SPEAKER_03]: I know you have to sit there and believe in what you're doing, you know, we're taking time to, you know, at that time, just a type thing to think, you know, the Almighty to sit there and thank him for what he's given us and what to give and anything. 22:52.469 --> 22:57.092 [SPEAKER_03]: to many times people feel like they've been given a raw deal or something bad to happen and they can't handle it. 22:57.152 --> 23:06.957 [SPEAKER_03]: Well that's part of growing up and part of athletics is hopefully you can learn how to take things and stuff and a hard time, but you get knocked down. 23:06.977 --> 23:10.599 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like they'll say and you better get back up and you better have some fight about you when you do. 23:11.380 --> 23:11.880 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that. 23:12.681 --> 23:13.401 [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, 23:14.822 --> 23:16.824 [SPEAKER_01]: Bonnie, wow. 23:17.505 --> 23:18.486 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you have to say to that? 23:18.886 --> 23:19.747 [SPEAKER_01]: That was amazing. 23:20.147 --> 23:31.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've never, I've never been in his program before, but just by seeing him at church every, every week says something to me. 23:32.171 --> 23:39.577 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think Coach Joseph's like really, really humble to the fact we're like, the Katie program and he mentioned his dad earlier, like Randy. 23:39.678 --> 23:40.718 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:41.019 --> 23:43.361 [SPEAKER_02]: We go visit Randy, that games. 23:43.601 --> 23:44.982 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we'd go to college station, right? 23:45.002 --> 23:49.586 [SPEAKER_02]: Just randomly, Coach would go when a scout a team or go watch a team, give me it up with his dad. 23:50.327 --> 23:59.655 [SPEAKER_02]: And me and John would tag in Jeff would tag along and we'd see Randy and his dad would sit in the bleachers atop with binoculars and the program. 24:01.068 --> 24:04.430 [SPEAKER_02]: And these are the kids like he didn't know, but he knew

everything about him. 24:04.450 --> 24:06.410 [SPEAKER_02]: He knew their height, like he had been studying the program. 24:06.430 --> 24:09.892 [SPEAKER_02]: He'd been watching them through binoculars 15, 20 minutes before we got there. 24:09.932 --> 24:20.557 [SPEAKER_02]: And like he, like he's, these guys love football as a kid at Kojo's of South, he's to pop popcorn and sit on their master bed. 24:21.477 --> 24:27.720 [SPEAKER_02]: and me, John Jeff and Julie would sit in there and we take turns changing the tapes out when he would scout teams. 24:28.240 --> 24:32.642 [SPEAKER_02]: He had a TV up on the wall and this was before the flat screen, this was like, you know, the big chunky one. 24:32.662 --> 24:41.666 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a 19-inch TV, but it was, you know, the chunky, but he had to hold his shelf up there and we would swap the tapes out and he would literally rewind, like rewind play. 24:41.686 --> 24:43.807 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, where are these tapes out and this would be like on a 24:44.327 --> 24:54.555 [SPEAKER_02]: VHS a random Saturday afternoon and like like these guys like like the Katie football program I thought felt like was different as he is like Like he absolutely love football. 24:54.575 --> 24:55.536 [SPEAKER_02]: They love the players. 24:56.097 --> 25:01.861 [SPEAKER_02]: I always felt like even the stars on the team like I'll give you a great example when we are going to state 25:03.091 --> 25:05.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we, we, there's a first run of the playoffs. 25:05.974 --> 25:07.935 [SPEAKER_02]: Delitori are stud. 25:07.955 --> 25:11.378 [SPEAKER_02]: This guy went D1, A&M on a full scholarship to play football. 25:11.899 --> 25:19.125 [SPEAKER_02]: Was late to a team breakfast at 7 a.m. And coach Johnston said them for the first half of the first round of the playoff game. 25:19.625 --> 25:21.187 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was Elsey, right? 25:21.607 --> 25:24.910 [SPEAKER_02]: It was by far, I think it was, it was a year-long. 25:25.250 --> 25:25.891 [SPEAKER_01]: Joanne, we won. 25:26.051 --> 25:26.992 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we won state that year. 25:27.032 --> 25:27.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay. 25:27.452 --> 25:30.155 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was the game we won by what? 25:31.076 --> 25:31.476 [SPEAKER_02]: over time. 25:31.596 --> 25:40.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, but our stud tied in, who like, like I said, we're in full ride like, and I always felt like that was the difference about Katie as like the accountability, right? 25:40.768 --> 25:46.176 [SPEAKER_02]: They held us very, very accountable on Friday nights like we weren't out running around with our girlfriends going to parties like, 25:46.576 --> 25:50.218 [SPEAKER_02]: we would have team movies at the field house. 25:50.559 --> 25:51.519 [SPEAKER_02]: If we had a Saturday game. 25:51.539 --> 25:52.740 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, I know that. 25:52.760 --> 25:56.763 [SPEAKER_02]: So like it was like we had this very, very firm level of accountability.

25:57.123 --> 25:58.123 [SPEAKER_02]: And we were all held to it. 25:58.244 --> 26:00.425 [SPEAKER_02]: And there wasn't like you didn't have an excuse. 26:00.565 --> 26:01.966 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you got a ride. 26:02.566 --> 26:05.808 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were running like something like you weren't like you figured it out. 26:06.800 --> 26:15.905 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you figured it out without a cell phone, and they made, they made boys, men, like our high, I felt like high school football players become men as you were held accountable. 26:16.145 --> 26:19.547 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we had a very different set of rules in like a standard high school kid, right? 26:20.028 --> 26:24.210 [SPEAKER_02]: They Katie high school expectations were very, very clear. 26:25.050 --> 26:26.031 [SPEAKER_02]: You, you understood? 26:26.071 --> 26:29.573 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you messed up, you very, you were very quickly corrected. 26:30.914 --> 26:36.436 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I'm going to coach, I'm just going to throw some questions out there and just give me one answer. 26:36.636 --> 26:36.936 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 26:37.216 --> 26:39.317 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, cool. 26:40.638 --> 26:41.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Best opponent. 26:43.579 --> 26:44.639 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably South Lake Carol. 26:45.780 --> 26:46.440 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much. 26:46.480 --> 26:47.100 [SPEAKER_03]: They were really good. 26:47.180 --> 26:48.921 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a place to get them very good, unfortunately. 26:50.081 --> 26:52.302 [SPEAKER_03]: First went to take championship game in 94. 26:52.482 --> 26:54.403 [SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, it was 26:55.003 --> 26:58.990 [SPEAKER_03]: We played Plano when they were very good, but we played some really, really fine people. 26:59.210 --> 27:02.836 [SPEAKER_03]: West Lake has been a very formal opponent for us in the things. 27:03.557 --> 27:06.421 [SPEAKER_03]: But South Lake Carol was probably the best one to play against. 27:07.693 --> 27:09.755 [SPEAKER_01]: What was your favorite state championship? 27:10.596 --> 27:12.257 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't say that stuff. 27:13.298 --> 27:13.859 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm right here. 27:13.879 --> 27:22.907 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to go make somebody mad You know, I will say this and in 2008 we lost three games that year and things and was that patty fisher? 27:22.927 --> 27:34.737 [SPEAKER_03]: And that novice will not know they were play they played in 2015 and stuff and We want to stay championship and oh seven and came back in08 and and we lost you know our 27:37.816 --> 28:03.056 [SPEAKER_03]: and lucky thing for us is you know we wind up when in a state championship otherwise our kids would had to hear about it all the rest of the year at the basketball games and people hold up signs and hells of score up and things but you know it's hard to do when you're team you know you may have lost that game but you win the the whole big thing so it's kind of you know set us that down a little bit you know that you know there's been a lot of great games and I've got a lot of great players and stuff and you're supposed to play us on the O 18 28:04.390 --> 28:26.276 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Michael Weber was our laying back, we had, you know, our safety was our, you know, a really good player and thing, but, you know, those, those kids said he called the hall played on it and things and said he was a backup for most of the year and, you know, and started playing about the week nine and stuff and he got better and better and because he got better and better, I think that better so yeah. 28:27.284 --> 28:31.005 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess they know our Sam Hall, our safety was a really good player. 28:31.025 --> 28:33.586 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they went on to play by for four years in the stuff. 28:33.606 --> 28:36.467 [SPEAKER_03]: So we had a couple of really good players on that team and stuff. 28:37.147 --> 28:40.608 [SPEAKER_03]: And Horstville, I'll say he was one of them, but he was there and thanks. 28:40.668 --> 28:41.629 [SPEAKER_03]: But he was there again. 28:41.869 --> 28:43.589 [SPEAKER_01]: He was there. 28:43.829 --> 28:49.231 [SPEAKER_01]: Name all, name your professional football players that have come through your program. 28:49.471 --> 28:50.391 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, gosh. 28:50.952 --> 28:52.852 [SPEAKER_03]: We've had like Eric Heidman has come through there. 28:52.952 --> 28:55.473 [SPEAKER_03]: He came through there when I was early on in the stuff and things. 28:56.140 --> 29:07.389 [SPEAKER_03]: Right now, the ones there, they're like, parent Frederick, one plate of professional football, he's on our, we have all our kids that are playing professional football, we have Dursey's in the field house, you know, with them and stuff. 29:07.429 --> 29:15.775 [SPEAKER_03]: And most of them have signed them and told us, you know, bolly by Mitchell, plates Canadian ball was the Canadian player of the year, a couple of years and things. 29:15.835 --> 29:18.537 [SPEAKER_03]: And he was a good football player and things. 29:18.677 --> 29:23.220 [SPEAKER_03]: More awesome I was, is the one that's still presently playing professional football. 29:23.300 --> 29:25.322 [SPEAKER_03]: He's playing for the Eagles and stuff and things. 29:28.416 --> 29:38.105 [SPEAKER_03]: a tight man like I said, and thanks, who else is a thing that you don't need dogs up here, and he was a good player and things, you know, people don't understand, and don't 29:39.270 --> 29:43.813 [SPEAKER_03]: played for us and did a great job for us, but he wasn't a full-time start to this scene a year. 29:44.513 --> 29:45.134 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you. 29:45.174 --> 29:51.258 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, you know, Jared played the gay heart played quarterback with him and stuff and things. 29:51.698 --> 29:54.160 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, I just, I mean, people mature differently. 29:54.320 --> 29:59.343 [SPEAKER_03]: And Dalton was a backup, you know, when he was a, you know, backup

freshman B team guy and stuff. 29:59.383 --> 30:00.103 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he just knew. 30:00.123 --> 30:00.444 [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton? 30:00.704 --> 30:00.944 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 30:01.344 --> 30:08.190 [SPEAKER_03]: And he was a beat team guy, I believe I mentioned was a beat team guy, and then of what people termed beat team, we don't call a beat team around our place. 30:08.210 --> 30:12.113 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't need to call him, white team, or whatever you else, but they're not beat team guys. 30:12.134 --> 30:17.258 [SPEAKER_03]: They're everybody's a, you know, an 18 player type, you know, yeah, he was a backup and stuff. 30:17.298 --> 30:19.080 [SPEAKER_03]: He just, you know, people matured differently. 30:19.220 --> 30:28.388 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's, you know, Andrew's a classic example to just, you know, you sit there and, you know, you work hard and you buy your time and you go out and do your best and then you'll get better. 30:28.908 --> 30:30.310 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's one of the most freckles they've done. 30:30.330 --> 30:38.560 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's part of the program that's part of having a program instead of relying on just talent if you rely on kids and matured and be in coachable and doing what they're coached to be. 30:39.047 --> 30:46.532 [SPEAKER_01]: Being coachable, sometimes I feel like that's not existent with some of these athletes days. 30:47.373 --> 30:50.895 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about Vania. 30:51.616 --> 30:56.639 [SPEAKER_01]: Vania, what was your last senior moment in football that you remember? 30:56.659 --> 30:58.821 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh gosh, I don't even want to talk. 30:58.901 --> 30:59.721 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was there. 30:59.741 --> 31:00.662 [SPEAKER_02]: We got this qualified. 31:01.302 --> 31:02.803 [SPEAKER_02]: We got pulled off the bus going to the state again. 31:02.983 --> 31:03.744 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a worst. 31:04.164 --> 31:07.206 [SPEAKER_03]: We're fixing on a play to state championship game against mentally. 31:08.640 --> 31:29.707 [SPEAKER_03]: we had played and we didn't know what it was back when they had eligibility things and progress reports and the kids would take a carbon copy or a paper around and get it signed by the teachers and put in a great thought and he fought right before the teacher signature and and things which we had no you know knowledge of and stuff and things and you know it was turned down. 31:34.233 --> 31:38.664 [SPEAKER_03]: coach when we're in top with Superintendent and anyone back next morning and thank you. 31:38.684 --> 31:40.489 [SPEAKER_03]: We literally had to pull our kids off the bus. 31:45.583 --> 31:46.884 [SPEAKER_03]: That was a tough loss. 31:47.145 --> 31:52.549 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was probably like I would say like and it was our senior year so we had one state, my junior year. 31:52.569 --> 32:11.746 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah senior year we were 15 and now going to play Cedric Benson and Midlandly like I mean and we were dialed in I mean I still remember the video we were on the bus all of our stuff was packed and then coach Bruno at the time came and got us all off the bus and we met in the team room 32:13.087 --> 32:14.809 [SPEAKER_02]: And I told us we had been to Squelfide. 32:15.369 --> 32:16.510 [SPEAKER_02]: It was insane. 32:16.971 --> 32:18.051 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was brutal. 32:18.112 --> 32:20.253 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, uh, my gosh. 32:20.934 --> 32:23.977 [SPEAKER_02]: Especially having one, our junior year, you know. 32:24.577 --> 32:26.759 [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like, would you have rather played and not one? 32:27.620 --> 32:28.821 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it's like, that's the thing. 32:28.881 --> 32:32.104 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, man, it's, but I was so, we were so confident. 32:32.124 --> 32:36.467 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, we had, that season wasn't, we had a fantastic playoff run. 32:36.487 --> 32:38.930 [SPEAKER_02]: We were beating teams by 35, 40 points in the playoffs. 32:40.127 --> 32:43.129 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's just like a sucker punching. 32:43.690 --> 32:49.514 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's my thing is in S.C. which is I always wondered like if it was hard on us, like I could only imagine how hard it was. 32:49.534 --> 32:53.957 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a time you spend in the preparation and a time away from your family. 32:54.637 --> 33:13.982 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the work ethic and the work you all put in to sit there and be there and get there and have the opportunity to, you know, you may not have won, but, you know, at least, you know, you'd have the opportunity to sit there and play for it and to be pulled off the bus was a harsh, harsh thing and stuff and things, of course after that they said all these rules and stuff and things and so that couldn't happen again. 33:14.882 --> 33:27.669 [SPEAKER_03]: you know it was something that you know they didn't do anything else and things that were just you know basically with an unavoidable thing and stuff you know it's because it was a policy of school and she couldn't have they had records worked on that by and that before they had all the computers and stuff anyway. 33:28.049 --> 33:33.292 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness coach man you have 33:34.412 --> 33:42.158 [SPEAKER_01]: Come a long way and you have dug a path for others to follow in Katie, Texas. 33:42.979 --> 33:48.342 [SPEAKER_01]: One last thing, what do you hope former players say about Gary Joseph in 20 years? 33:49.703 --> 33:58.450 [SPEAKER_03]: He was an honest man and he was, he was about devoted, you know, father and most of all 34:07.897 --> 34:11.198 [SPEAKER_03]: I have, you know, I have raised a great family. 34:11.318 --> 34:31.584 [SPEAKER_03]: And I, you know, both my boys, my daughter, you know, really turned out to be great people and things and hopefully in some way, along line, they've learned a little bit from my wife and I, as part of that, and that's why I would hope they'd understand just, we were there for them and wasn't about me, it's about our program and about our kids and, you know, and that's where that. 34:32.905 --> 34:36.246 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, that's an end of a wonderful episode, Coach. 34:37.127 --> 34:42.208 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for coming on any time you want to drag this guy out and come hang out with me. 34:42.248 --> 34:43.508 [SPEAKER_01]: You are more than welcome. 34:43.528 --> 34:44.388 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you very much. 34:44.468 --> 34:45.149 [SPEAKER_03]: It's been fun. 34:45.269 --> 34:49.209 [SPEAKER_03]: Andrew is a great kid and I'll tell you how to call me kid. 34:49.289 --> 34:50.490 [SPEAKER_03]: They say I got six kids. 34:50.510 --> 34:51.110 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a big kid. 34:51.150 --> 34:52.330 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he was all right. 34:52.370 --> 34:58.751 [SPEAKER_03]: But I said, you know, he and his folks are great neighbors and great people and great friends and people. 34:58.791 --> 35:03.192 [SPEAKER_03]: He's still called friends, 44 years later, so I'm very thankful to that, you know, having around. 35:03.512 --> 35:04.853 [SPEAKER_01]: Bonnie, it's always a pleasure, buddy. 35:05.214 --> 35:06.355 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for having us. 35:06.395 --> 35:07.236 [SPEAKER_01]: We did do this again. 35:07.256 --> 35:07.957 [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. 35:08.237 --> 35:08.897 [SPEAKER_01]: I have so much fun. 35:09.338 --> 35:10.619 [SPEAKER_02]: I've got to get quite great things. 35:11.300 --> 35:12.601 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the end of the episode, guys. 35:12.881 --> 35:17.246 [SPEAKER_01]: Close your eyes, click your heels three times, because there's no place like Chat KTX.