บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Goblin Vaults, Thanksgiving 2023, and Boardgame Gift Ideas

talked over though. 00:02:03.344 --> 00:02:04.007 Oh, thank you. 00:02:04.007 --> 00:02:06.132 Thank you, I'm sure I do. 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.455 Well, sometimes I need to too, Uh-huh uh-huh. 00:02:08.455 --> 00:02:10.443 So we're picked up, we roll. 00:02:10.443 --> 00:02:11.366 That's how it works. 00:02:11.366 --> 00:02:14.701 How it works, you know, pick up the slack, no dead air. 00:02:15.084 --> 00:02:15.725 No dead air. 00:02:15.825 --> 00:02:16.448 No dead air. 00:02:16.448 --> 00:02:19.548 There's no reason for you to edit because there's never going to be dead air. 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:27.091 Have you listeners noticed that Angie and I have been using the word roll or rolling, quite a lot? 00:02:27.312 --> 00:02:27.872 Have we been. 00:02:28.112 --> 00:02:28.813 Oh, we have been. 00:02:29.460 --> 00:02:31.007 I mean, I just used it a couple of minutes ago. 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:32.926 You've been using it since we started. 00:02:33.460 --> 00:02:34.302 I'm getting well. 00:02:34.302 --> 00:02:39.927 I guess it's in my mind, it's in my head, it's going to become part of my vernacular. 00:02:39.927 --> 00:02:53.110 Since Three months, chris and I are doing a segment or we're part of a board game a new board game show on Ali Reed's YouTube channel Don't Be A Board. 00:02:53.110 --> 00:03:03.895 He has a new show called Tabletop Tea Time, where he does bring content creators from around the world. 00:03:03.895 --> 00:03:05.526 So this is an international show. 00:03:05.526 --> 00:03:09.485 So that's kind of neat and they will be talking about. 00:03:09.485 --> 00:03:23.867 We do have a topic each month and it's not necessary that we stick with a topic, but this latest topic that will be that was just released was the shelf of opportunity. 00:03:23.867 --> 00:03:27.729 What Chris and I are doing is we have our own little segment. 00:03:27.729 --> 00:03:34.766 So we're going to take something that has to do with the topic and we're rolling it into a dice game. 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.264 And the name of our segment is Are we Rolling? 00:03:37.284 --> 00:03:37.945 We're Rolling. 00:03:37.945 --> 00:03:39.489 Yes, I thought that was clever. 00:03:39.870 --> 00:03:41.453 Yeah well, very clever Angie thought of that. 00:03:42.300 --> 00:03:50.033 I thought of it and it had to do something with a movie that they probably had in the 1970s but yeah, the old movie cameras. 00:03:50.254 --> 00:03:52.198 They used to say Roll Film, roll Film. 00:03:52.198 --> 00:03:52.979 Yeah, are we Rolling? 00:03:55.206 --> 00:03:59.826 I thought that was clever, and then Chris had pointed out they really don't have those type of cameras anymore. 00:03:59.947 --> 00:04:01.530 I don't know, I do. 00:04:01.530 --> 00:04:03.112 I have no idea, maybe they do. 00:04:03.112 --> 00:04:07.808 All right, angie, we went to a convention recently. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.229 We went to GameholeCon in Madison, Wisconsin. 00:04:11.229 --> 00:04:16.946 I think it's maybe a primarily an RPG convention For the most part. 00:04:16.946 --> 00:04:20.630 But there is a board game presence there, a pretty decent one. 00:04:20.630 --> 00:04:22.668 They have a board game library. 00:04:22.668 --> 00:04:28.665 That's one of the reasons that we love going to something like this, because we can play games that we don't have. 00:04:28.665 --> 00:04:30.846 So we did play a really cool game there. 00:04:31.100 --> 00:04:34.149 I was actually pleasantly surprised by this game. 00:04:34.220 --> 00:04:38.199 Pulled out a game that probably was not what you would expect to play at a con. 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:40.613 It was not a con game, it was Rouge. 00:04:40.613 --> 00:04:44.129 I was like Steph, I'm velled and I had always been interested in that game. 00:04:44.129 --> 00:04:47.428 So when I saw it there I figured, hey, minus, we'll try it. 00:04:47.528 --> 00:04:50.565 And it was very good, it was approachable, it was. 00:04:50.586 --> 00:04:51.389 Good word for it. 00:04:52.060 --> 00:04:53.144 Easy to figure out. 00:04:53.625 --> 00:04:53.927 It was. 00:04:53.927 --> 00:04:55.839 It really didn't take. 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:00.908 It didn't take much and it unfortunately not have. 00:05:00.908 --> 00:05:05.920 Unfortunately, it is no longer available in its form. 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:10.589 It has now been reprinted on the city collection. 00:05:10.589 --> 00:05:15.526 I think Feld is calling it and I believe this one is Hamburg. 00:05:15.565 --> 00:05:19.148 Yeah, and it's also extremely expensive. 00:05:19.209 --> 00:05:22.228 Yeah, I think they changed mechanism in it. 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:26.050 I'm glad you chose that game from the lending library. 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:27.004 What else did we do there? 00:05:27.500 --> 00:05:35.353 We talked to one of my favorite game designers, Keith Matejka owner of T hunderworks Games. 00:05:35.353 --> 00:05:37.927 We met him probably in 2018. 00:05:37.927 --> 00:05:43.391 The last time we went to GameholeCon before this year really nice guy, really nice guy. 00:05:43.391 --> 00:05:50.225 We got to talk about the dawn of Ulos and we talked to him about goblin vaults and we talked to him about a whole bunch of good stuff. 00:05:50.245 --> 00:06:01.687 Yeah, I mentioned to him that he should actually play some games for enjoyment and he said doesn't get much time to do that, he's working and that kind of stuff, so he doesn't play a lot for enjoyment. 00:06:01.740 --> 00:06:04.550 You did mention to him also that you are a fan of his solo modes. 00:06:04.550 --> 00:06:07.427 Does he make some very good solo modes for pencil first games? 00:06:07.569 --> 00:06:08.250 Yep he does. 00:06:08.250 --> 00:06:09.266 I think they're really good. 00:06:09.266 --> 00:06:13.411 He made a comment about how that they were pretty simple jobs to do. 00:06:13.411 --> 00:06:15.067 He could actually do them in a couple hours. 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:16.947 Yeah, that was pretty cool to hear

that. 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:21.271 And we did something else which we don't get a lot of time or chance to do. 00:06:21.271 --> 00:06:24.269 We played a prototype which I thought was very, very cool. 00:06:24.269 --> 00:06:25.444 I really enjoyed it. 00:06:25.444 --> 00:06:31.831 I was kind of nervous about doing it, to tell you the truth, why I'm a little intimidated by it. 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:33.646 Like having somebody demo a game for you. 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:46.391 Because you know, okay, going into that, I usually go over the rules a lot, watch videos a lot before I play and essentially you're playing as somebody's describing things to you once. 00:06:46.391 --> 00:06:52.310 But I really felt comfortable with the guys doing it and I was able to say, can you walk me through this? 00:06:52.310 --> 00:06:54.226 He would ask you know what would you want to do? 00:06:54.226 --> 00:06:56.107 And you know I said, walk me through the steps. 00:06:56.107 --> 00:07:00.249 And he was really great with that and I didn't feel intimidated doing it and I enjoyed the game. 00:07:00.249 --> 00:07:07.144 It's not something that normally I would play or pick up, but I really did enjoy the game and it was called Role. 00:07:07.144 --> 00:07:12.232 So do you want to tell the folks what games we actually picked up while we were there? 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:13.906 I don't even remember which games we picked up. 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.348 Well, obviously from Thunderworks we did pick up. 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:20.069 The games that we picked up there were Dawn of Ulos. 00:07:20.069 --> 00:07:24.930 We picked up Goblin Vaults, which is going to be a game we are talking about. 00:07:24.930 --> 00:07:27.319 It's our review in this episode. 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:28.762 What else did we pick up, Angie? 00:07:29.225 --> 00:07:30.146 Sky Team. 00:07:30.146 --> 00:07:32.291 Oh yeah, Spellbook. 00:07:32.940 --> 00:07:35.348 Yeah, I forgot, we picked up that Sky Team there. 00:07:35.468 --> 00:07:39.166 And Genesis and that's a 2010 game. 00:07:39.166 --> 00:07:42.745 Yeah, so that was interesting, so it's not horrible. 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:44.245 It wasn't a bad game. 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.028 There wasn't a lot to it. 00:07:47.187 --> 00:07:51.028 I agree, as far as a lot of actions in the game, there's not a lot of stuff to do. 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:56.624 There's like three things you can do, but it's like move, that's your action, that's it. 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:02.134 Move forward, move backward, collect cubes, spend cubes, and that's really it. 00:08:02.153 --> 00:08:03.456 That's really it, yeah. 00:08:03.637 --> 00:08:04.360 I thought it was interesting. 00:08:04.620 --> 00:08:05.786 And you didn't spend a lot of money. 00:08:05.786 --> 00:08:07.367 I think you paid for about 15 bucks. 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:08.846 I paid $15 for it. 00:08:24.435 --> 00:08:25.555 You know what time it is? 00:08:25.555 --> 00:08:27.865 It's quiz time. 00:08:28.980 --> 00:08:29.581 All right. 00:08:29.601 --> 00:08:31.889 Quiz time. 00:08:31.889 --> 00:08:39.890 So now we are doing our Thanksgiving episode, so I felt the quiz should be Thanksgiving related. 00:08:39.890 --> 00:08:43.902 It's not going to be a difficult one, it's going to be. 00:08:43.902 --> 00:08:47.230 It's like a yes-no. 00:08:48.562 --> 00:08:50.179 Oh, a yes-no quiz. 00:08:50.179 --> 00:08:50.962 Well pretty much. 00:08:51.024 --> 00:08:56.528 yeah, you have two choices, so it's going to be each question is 50-50,. 00:08:56.528 --> 00:08:56.808 Right? 00:08:56.808 --> 00:08:59.352 This is going to be the Thanksgiving meal. 00:09:00.077 --> 00:09:00.217 Oh. 00:09:00.580 --> 00:09:01.845 The Thanksgiving meal. 00:09:01.924 --> 00:09:02.145 Yes. 00:09:08.969 --> 00:09:13.975 In your mind if you go to Walmart and pick out a turkey, a Butterball Turkey. 00:09:13.975 --> 00:09:17.267 They feed 10 to 16 people. 00:09:17.267 --> 00:09:20.369 The average price is going to be 1834. 00:09:20.369 --> 00:09:22.542 You might want to write that number down. 00:09:23.342 --> 00:09:23.582 Really? 00:09:23.582 --> 00:09:25.566 Yes, you just took the pen. 00:09:25.846 --> 00:09:26.567 There's another one. 00:09:26.706 --> 00:09:28.750 Oh, okay, write it down. 00:09:28.750 --> 00:09:30.692 I have the pen in my hand 1834. 00:09:30.712 --> 00:09:32.154 Here you can use the back of that. 00:09:32.475 --> 00:09:35.198 Oh, I got it right here 1834. 00:09:35.779 --> 00:09:48.299 Okay, so this Butterball Turkey is $1.28 a pound, so that is going to be your starting number, $1.28. 00:09:48.299 --> 00:09:53.980 Is stovetop stuffing more or less than $1.28? 00:09:53.980 --> 00:09:55.787 Does it cost more or less? 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:57.746 That is not a yes or no question. 00:09:57.759 --> 00:09:58.604 Well, it's an either or. 00:09:58.604 --> 00:10:05.539 Stovetop stuffing costs more or less than $1.28. 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:05.639 More. 00:10:06.965 --> 00:10:10.818 You're correct, it is $1.98. 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:12.504 This is like the prices, right it is. 00:10:12.846 --> 00:10:28.729 It is $1.98 is now your target Is Heinz Homestyle Turkey Gravy, 18 ounces More or less, then $1.98. 00:10:28.769 --> 00:10:28.970 Less. 00:10:30.630 --> 00:10:31.500 Oh, it's more. 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:33.583 It is 234. 00:10:33.583 --> 00:10:42.167 Is Ocean Spray, jellied Cranberry Sauce, more or less than 234. 00:10:42.167 --> 00:10:48.378 Less it is less, it is $1.98. 00:10:48.378 --> 00:10:51.539 I was going to do a trick question but I thought, no, that's not nice. 00:10:52.327 --> 00:10:53.500 So I'm back at $1.98. 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:55.539 Yeah, back to $1.98. 00:10:55.539 --> 00:11:01.293 Well, you mean to tell me gravy is more expensive than stuffing? 00:11:01.659 --> 00:11:13.890 No, no, let me remind you these are some of these things are on a Black Friday special, so the basic cost of the stove top stuffing, I think, was closer to $3.

00:11:14.692 --> 00:11:18.389 Oh, you didn't say there was a sale price. 00:11:18.539 --> 00:11:20.404 Well, some of the things are on a sale price. 00:11:20.424 --> 00:11:20.664 Some are not. 00:11:20.664 --> 00:11:21.768 Shouldn't be doing sale prices. 00:11:21.768 --> 00:11:22.349 That's just silly. 00:11:23.539 --> 00:11:24.624 Most of these are sale price. 00:11:24.624 --> 00:11:34.332 To tell you the truth, I think they all were, except maybe the gravy Del Monte 14 ounce can of cut green beans. 00:11:34.332 --> 00:11:41.115 Is it more or less than the Ocean Spray Jellied Cranberry at $1.98? 00:11:41.115 --> 00:11:42.873 Less Bob Evans. 00:11:42.873 --> 00:11:46.629 You know what the Bob Evans are. 00:11:47.552 --> 00:11:48.817 Bob Evans, I know Bob Evans. 00:11:48.837 --> 00:11:49.359 Bob Evans. 00:11:49.359 --> 00:11:52.066 Yes, those are the mashed potatoes. 00:11:52.066 --> 00:11:54.371 They are in the plastic tray that gets microwaved. 00:11:54.371 --> 00:12:03.272 We're not going to go with potato flakes we're not that low-brow here so we're going to go with the Bob Evans microwave mashed potatoes. 00:12:03.272 --> 00:12:12.539 The 32 ounce, which is the family size, is it more or less than Del Monte green beans? 00:12:12.539 --> 00:12:14.966 Remember, there are sale prices here. 00:12:14.966 --> 00:12:15.508 Yeah. 00:12:17.160 --> 00:12:20.610 Well, Bob Evans, it is less. 00:12:23.066 --> 00:12:24.090 Less than a dollar. 00:12:24.090 --> 00:12:26.539 No, you got it wrong, it's 387. 00:12:27.845 --> 00:12:29.101 I don't know, sometimes okay. 00:12:29.101 --> 00:12:30.745 So sometimes Bob's a generous guy. 00:12:30.745 --> 00:12:36.942 He gives deep discounts to those you overthought that. 00:12:37.423 --> 00:12:39.128 You overthought that I did. 00:12:39.128 --> 00:12:40.350 You overthought that one. 00:12:40.851 --> 00:12:41.091 I did. 00:12:42.783 --> 00:12:45.629 Marie Callender's pumpkin pie. 00:12:45.629 --> 00:12:48.590 Is it more than 387? 00:12:48.590 --> 00:12:54.539 Yes, all right, we got three of those. 00:12:55.062 --> 00:12:56.488 You're busting out some big names. 00:12:56.488 --> 00:12:58.528 You're Bob Evans, Marie Callender. 00:12:58.528 --> 00:13:00.407 Is Patrick Cudahay coming up next? 00:13:00.980 --> 00:13:02.826 No, that's it for the Thanksgiving meal. 00:13:03.187 --> 00:13:03.486 No more. 00:13:03.527 --> 00:13:05.371 Patrick, so you have, so you have. 00:13:05.371 --> 00:13:08.249 These are the numbers you need to remember now. 00:13:08.861 --> 00:13:11.816 Oh, I'm not writing any of these numbers now, but you're writing them down. 00:13:11.836 --> 00:13:12.480 Why are you writing them down? 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.985 Okay, you don't have to, because I'm going to tell you, you're like literally telling me them. 00:13:15.985 --> 00:13:21.188 Well, okay, this Thanksgiving meal costs $35.14. 00:13:21.188 --> 00:13:24.307 Yeah, so right now you have six points. 00:13:24.307 --> 00:13:26.687 This is a three-point question. 00:13:26.687 --> 00:13:36.005 Is it more or less than the Lego Classic Building Set 1,500 pieces? 00:13:36.880 --> 00:13:39.029 Oh, it's less Lego than our freaking expensive. 00:13:40.716 --> 00:13:43.366 It is more, it's a Black Friday sale. 00:13:43.366 --> 00:13:44.864 They are only $30. 00:13:45.868 --> 00:13:46.149 Yay. 00:13:49.025 --> 00:13:50.749 I'm very proud of this, okay. 00:13:50.950 --> 00:13:51.871 That was horrible. 00:13:51.871 --> 00:13:54.583 I mean, my showing was horrible. 00:13:55.105 --> 00:13:55.326 Yes. 00:13:55.647 --> 00:13:56.207 It's a good quiz. 00:13:56.207 --> 00:13:56.850 That's the end of it. 00:13:57.029 --> 00:14:00.371 Yes, it is Two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve. 00:14:00.371 --> 00:14:01.519 Yeah, I mean 15 points. 00:14:01.921 --> 00:14:06.275 The grand finale was is this Thanksgiving meal more or less expensive than a Lego? 00:14:06.275 --> 00:14:06.537 That was it. 00:14:06.537 --> 00:14:20.630 It was so anticlimactic I thought that was. 00:14:20.791 --> 00:14:23.413 I thought that was kind of funny comparing it to the Legos. 00:14:23.413 --> 00:14:25.414 Okay here, bonus bonus, bonus question. 00:14:25.414 --> 00:14:27.116 Bonus bonus, bonus Bonus bonus bonus question. 00:14:27.136 --> 00:14:27.798 Now, how do you pronounce it? 00:14:27.798 --> 00:14:28.018 The? 00:14:28.038 --> 00:14:29.038 Walmart brand that O-N-N. 00:14:29.038 --> 00:14:30.480 It's a proud sign On Okay. 00:14:33.591 --> 00:14:35.118 They have 45 inch. 00:14:35.118 --> 00:14:35.177 Tv. 00:14:35.177 --> 00:14:36.928 Is it more or less than? 00:14:37.351 --> 00:14:38.458 a Thanksgiving dinner. 00:14:43.288 --> 00:14:45.212 It is more than a Thanksgiving meal. 00:14:45.212 --> 00:14:46.095 Okay, how much is it? 00:14:46.095 --> 00:14:47.076 40 inch 45 inch. 00:14:47.116 --> 00:14:47.618 45 inch. 00:14:47.618 --> 00:14:48.500 It's a 1080. 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:51.147 1080p on television. 00:14:51.147 --> 00:14:55.020 It's a 10 inch 45 inch. 00:14:55.020 --> 00:14:55.942 It's a 1080. 00:14:55.962 --> 00:15:01.472 1080p on television is on sale. 00:15:02.539 --> 00:15:02.941 It's on sale Black. 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:08.748 Friday for $279.98. 00:15:08.788 --> 00:15:09.830 $98. 00:15:09.830 --> 00:15:10.811 What $98. 00:15:10.811 --> 00:15:12.013 Are you sure it's 1080p? 00:15:12.033 --> 00:15:14.134 It's probably like 420p or something. 00:15:14.134 --> 00:15:14.917 No, it said 1080. 00:15:14.917 --> 00:15:16.839 Wow, 1080 Roku Smart TV Impressive $98. 00:15:16.859 --> 00:15:17.539 Everybody run there. 00:15:17.539 --> 00:15:21.308 You don't have two anymore. 00:15:21.308 --> 00:15:25.466 You can buy them on them. 00:15:27.620 --> 00:15:29.366 I might just get them to send them to your house. 00:15:30.186 --> 00:15:31.539 Well, that was a great quiz, angie. 00:15:31.539 --> 00:15:34.539 I got six out of 15. 00:15:34.539 --> 00:15:43.410 I'll take it, angie. 00:15:43.410 --> 00:17:01.619 That quiz was fantastic, but

it did bring up a good point. 00:17:01.619 --> 00:17:08.140 So it was about shopping, and what we like to do in America after Thanksgiving is shop. 00:17:08.140 --> 00:17:10.180 It's shopping season for Christmas. 00:17:10.180 --> 00:17:14.140 Some people do their shopping all year long. 00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:19.180 Others wait until Black Friday, which pretty much is an entire month now. 00:17:19.180 --> 00:17:43.160 So Angie and I decided that we are going to give you guys a little bit of our recommendations of what we think would be a good gift to get people for the holidays, and we're just going to call it Board game gift ideas. 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.180 So it doesn't necessarily have to be a board game. 00:17:45.180 --> 00:17:51.431 It could be a board game accessory or a board game adjacent thing. 00:17:51.431 --> 00:17:55.180 So, angie, why don't you start off? 00:17:55.180 --> 00:17:59.630 What is a recommendation that you have for a board game gift? 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.884 I don't know which way I should do this, if I should start low or high. 00:18:04.884 --> 00:18:14.834 So I'm going to say I think a classic game that everybody should have is Carcassonne. 00:18:14.834 --> 00:18:18.180 Now, carcassonne is one of those older games. 00:18:18.180 --> 00:18:34.075 It may be something that is already on your game shelf, but brand new to the gaming world and I think it first reached the United States this year is the cooperative version, miss Silver Carcassonne. 00:18:34.075 --> 00:18:39.811 So that's going to be a cooperative and I can't really tell you anything else because we haven't played it yet. 00:18:39.811 --> 00:18:47.180 But I think I was really excited about it when I first heard about it, because I do love Carcassonne and it does. 00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:52.160 Obviously, you can play it solo, so I'm excited about it. 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.180 I'm excited to get it played this weekend. 00:18:54.180 --> 00:19:01.180 So if you would rather have a cooperative game for the entire family, that is a thing that you can get. 00:19:01.180 --> 00:19:05.629 Otherwise, I would always recommend Bass Carcassonne. 00:19:06.551 --> 00:19:07.493 Always, always. 00:19:07.493 --> 00:19:14.626 So, as far as games, now I have a list of eight games and I've ranked them from I have ranked nothing. 00:19:15.642 --> 00:19:20.180 We'll call it like easy to learn, to like a little bit more advanced games. 00:19:20.501 --> 00:19:28.180 And this list, in my mind, is suitable for somebody who in your family or friend who you know plays games, or somebody who does not. 00:19:28.180 --> 00:19:36.070 So if you're a gamer and you want to buy a game for somebody who you would like to maybe introduce to the hobby, I think this would be a good list to start with. 00:19:36.070 --> 00:19:45.160 So my first game that I would recommend would be Century, so you could either get Century Golem Edition, which is the one that we have, and I think that to me that

is a theme. 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.146 It's a theme thing too. 00:19:47.146 --> 00:19:48.991 That would probably make it a little bit interesting. 00:19:48.991 --> 00:20:08.035 In this game you're basically collecting and trading crystals to buy Golems, and it's it's simple but yet it's strategic, and you are trading and swapping your crystal colors in order to get more valuable Golem cards which score you points at the end of the game. 00:20:08.035 --> 00:20:17.790 So it's kind of like a puzzle game where you're trying to find the most efficient way to upgrade your crystals and get your Golems, and I think that would be a good game for gamers and non-gamers alike. 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:21.160 It is that the Century series is a very good game. 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:23.009 It's kind of one of those. 00:20:23.009 --> 00:20:25.140 A lot of people have Century Spice. 00:20:25.140 --> 00:20:28.630 A lot of people have Century Spice. 00:20:28.630 --> 00:20:31.487 A lot of people have that game. 00:20:31.848 --> 00:20:35.647 Century Spice World yeah that game and, yeah, I love it. 00:20:35.647 --> 00:20:36.871 I love it. 00:20:36.871 --> 00:20:40.436 So I'm going to go. 00:20:40.436 --> 00:20:49.094 My next, I'm going to kind of group two together that I have on my list because they could be stocking stuffers. 00:20:49.094 --> 00:21:01.628 Well, some things that might be good for some stockings would be maybe some booster packs, a lot of different card games out, but the big one right now out is Lorcanna. 00:21:01.628 --> 00:21:13.691 So if you can get a hold of some booster packs, if you have a Lorcanna player, they will probably be pretty excited to get some of those as well as a neat little game that comes in a tin. 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.328 It's a small dexterity game called Tinder blocks. 00:21:17.328 --> 00:21:18.951 It was a great game. 00:21:18.951 --> 00:21:20.646 I will stick it in my purse. 00:21:20.646 --> 00:21:23.180 We take it with us when we go out to restaurants. 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:27.730 It's a simple game, it's fun, it's cute and it does draw some attention. 00:21:28.180 --> 00:21:44.434 In this game there is a base card and you lay three wooden blocks and you draw a card and what you're doing is you are creating a campfire and you're taking the pieces of the campfire out of the tin. 00:21:44.434 --> 00:22:04.254 There are blocks that represent the logs and there are blocks that represent the flames, little cubes, and you have to pick up the blocks with the tweezers out of the tin and put them on top of the fire. 00:22:04.254 --> 00:22:10.652 Some of them you have to actually stack on top of each other and put them on top of the fire. 00:22:10.652 --> 00:22:13.545 Jenga, whoever knocks it off loses. 00:22:13.545 --> 00:22:17.173 But you draw a card and it tells you what you have to do. 00:22:17.173 --> 00:22:32.230 The really fun part is sometimes you have to do it with your opposing hand, so you'll see somebody taking their left hand, the right handed, trying to stack it up there, and it's a cute little dexterity game. 00:22:32.230 --> 00:22:35.160 It's fun, it's quick, I win a lot. 00:22:35.862 --> 00:22:36.804 You win a lot. 00:22:36.804 --> 00:22:38.969 Yes, it's a fun game. 00:22:38.969 --> 00:22:39.730 I really enjoy it. 00:22:39.730 --> 00:22:42.180 It's funny how you said it draws a lot of attention. 00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:46.471 The game does draw a lot of attention, but you know what really draws attention what? 00:22:46.471 --> 00:22:49.425 When we're in a public place playing that game. 00:22:49.425 --> 00:23:01.734 Like the last time we played it in a restaurant we had probably the highest stack of bricks that we've had, of blocks that we've had ever we talked about when we went to bricks. 00:23:02.341 --> 00:23:03.006 We're talking about. 00:23:03.006 --> 00:23:12.180 Ironically, when we went to the place called the Bricks, the restaurant called Bricks and Angie screamed so loud when that thing fell. 00:23:12.180 --> 00:23:15.235 She thought she had it in the bag. 00:23:15.235 --> 00:23:16.160 Oh, I did. 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.180 She thought she had it in the bag and the tower fell. 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:21.427 The fire collapsed. 00:23:21.628 --> 00:23:25.211 Yeah, and there were some guys playing dart ball and they turned around. 00:23:25.211 --> 00:23:26.678 And did they turn around and look? 00:23:26.678 --> 00:23:27.180 My eyes were closed. 00:23:27.847 --> 00:23:29.180 I think the whole bar turned around and looked. 00:23:29.180 --> 00:23:31.429 It was like one of those moments. 00:23:31.429 --> 00:23:39.132 You know those awkward moments when the jukebox stops and you're in the middle of a conversation and you say the most obscene thing and everybody looks at you. 00:23:39.132 --> 00:23:49.851 It was that the jukebox stopped, angie, I'm surprised people didn't like misthrow their dart ball things and it could have been mass chaos. 00:23:50.858 --> 00:23:51.180 It was funny. 00:23:51.863 --> 00:23:53.773 Anyway, good suggestion, angie. 00:23:53.773 --> 00:23:55.180 Thank you, I totally agree with you. 00:23:55.180 --> 00:24:03.008 Ironically, the next game that I have could be considered a stocking stuffer as well, and that game is Hive or Hive Pocket. 00:24:03.008 --> 00:24:04.111 So what is Hive? 00:24:04.111 --> 00:24:09.267 Hive is a two player game, think chess with bugs. 00:24:09.267 --> 00:24:32.192 Each player has a set of hexagonal tiles and each one of those tiles represents a different type of bug, and each of those bugs, like in chess, have their own unique way of moving, and the goal of this game is to surround your opponent's queen bee while stopping your opponent from being able to do the same to you. 00:24:32.192 --> 00:24:43.424 I really enjoy that game and I think it would be a great game to gift to somebody for Christmas who enjoys chess or a thinker, a thinker game. 00:24:44.936 --> 00:24:45.336 It is. 00:24:45.336

--> 00:24:45.838 It is. 00:24:45.838 --> 00:24:47.482 It's an abstract game. 00:24:47.482 --> 00:24:48.203 It's fun. 00:24:48.203 --> 00:24:50.107 I like it who wins? 00:24:50.107 --> 00:24:50.869 I win. 00:24:50.869 --> 00:24:54.205 Come on, I Win a lot. 00:24:54.567 --> 00:24:55.615 Yeah, I used to be that. 00:24:55.615 --> 00:25:03.092 I used to be the hive master until you show me the dung drop. 00:25:03.172 --> 00:25:07.063 Move the beetle bomb, the beetle bomb, and that is it. 00:25:07.063 --> 00:25:10.815 You've been cream, yeah, how many times since then? 00:25:10.815 --> 00:25:11.980 Yeah, you wait. 00:25:11.980 --> 00:25:13.467 I didn't even think that was a real move. 00:25:13.467 --> 00:25:15.075 It is it is now. 00:25:15.075 --> 00:25:17.584 I almost have to play without doing it. 00:25:17.584 --> 00:25:22.258 Yeah, mike, the challenge is can I beat you with Out doing that? 00:25:22.258 --> 00:25:23.761 Yeah, and then it's more difficult. 00:25:24.042 --> 00:25:26.807 I am starting to hate that move so much. 00:25:26.807 --> 00:25:35.551 Basically the Cuz I'm an innovator baby, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that's ever done it. 00:25:35.551 --> 00:25:49.194 Basically I take the dung beetle and I put it over the queen and now the queen is stuck there and then you just play your game and then when you have one open spot left around the, I don't be able to tell me don't be, it'll right in there and Angie always gets me with that move. 00:25:49.214 --> 00:25:52.803 now, the first time I did it to you was priceless, so you were just like what? 00:25:52.823 --> 00:25:53.284 are you doing? 00:25:53.284 --> 00:25:55.449 Yeah, I like that's not legal move. 00:25:55.449 --> 00:25:58.340 Probably scream noon red lobster to. 00:25:58.405 --> 00:26:00.259 But yeah, don't, you can't just do that. 00:26:00.259 --> 00:26:01.490 Okay, just put it down there. 00:26:01.711 --> 00:26:02.113 What do you mean? 00:26:02.113 --> 00:26:03.420 I can't move something like that. 00:26:03.420 --> 00:26:05.068 I'm pretty sure I sounded something like that. 00:26:05.068 --> 00:26:08.313 You probably did okay, the next one on my list here. 00:26:08.313 --> 00:26:09.236 Let me choose one. 00:26:09.236 --> 00:26:11.600 I have not put them in any particular order. 00:26:11.600 --> 00:26:14.208 This is a rolling right. 00:26:14.208 --> 00:26:15.592 It is called three sisters. 00:26:15.592 --> 00:26:16.575 I play this game. 00:26:16.575 --> 00:26:19.461 I don't know if have you ever played it or if I only soloed this. 00:26:19.903 --> 00:26:21.528 I have never had the opportunity to play it. 00:26:21.655 --> 00:26:27.348 You are creating a garden, um, you will roll some dice, uh, depending on the number of players. 00:26:27.348 --> 00:26:31.518 There is an action board which is a rondelle. 00:26:31.518 --> 00:26:37.109 There's different actions, like a shed action, a garden action which you are making things grow. 00:26:37.109 --> 00:26:42.252 You have like a

rolling right, so it has Like a map, a garden map with different gardens. 00:26:42.252 --> 00:26:42.634 In there. 00:26:42.634 --> 00:26:45.241 There are some sheds where you can get points up. 00:26:45.241 --> 00:26:50.802 Different actions you can get some honey, you can get some berries, so there's different things that you can do. 00:26:50.802 --> 00:26:55.578 I play solo, so you are playing against Farmer Edith. 00:26:55.578 --> 00:26:56.801 I don't like her. 00:26:56.801 --> 00:27:01.259 She will stomp all over your garden when it's her turn. 00:27:01.259 --> 00:27:05.427 But it's nice, it's simple, it's enjoyable. 00:27:05.427 --> 00:27:10.645 It is probably one of the solo games I do go to because it is simple and it is pretty quick. 00:27:10.645 --> 00:27:13.695 So that is my next choice three sisters. 00:27:13.976 --> 00:27:25.339 All right, my next game on the list as we get a little bit more into More complex, maybe, dare I say, heavier games, but not too heavy. 00:27:25.339 --> 00:27:32.889 You don't want to be too heavy when you're trying to introduce the hobby to somebody and that game is a fallout shelter. 00:27:32.889 --> 00:27:37.950 So fallout shelters, based on the video game and it's published by fantasy flight game. 00:27:37.950 --> 00:27:39.535 It was published in 2020. 00:27:40.818 --> 00:27:52.061 You are basically playing as an overseer of a vault and, as a person who enjoys post-apocalyptic themes, I really enjoy this game. 00:27:52.061 --> 00:28:00.701 So in this game, you're building rooms in your vault, you're managing resources and you're keeping your dwellers happy. 00:28:00.701 --> 00:28:03.401 You're kind of like the video game. 00:28:03.401 --> 00:28:08.519 You got to have happy dwellers, you got to build some rooms, you got to keep them alive. 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:20.705 So it's a game of research, management, strategic building, and you Make decisions on what parts of the vault to develop and how to Basically, on your turn, where your dwellers are going to be. 00:28:20.705 --> 00:28:34.927 I think it is a good example of worker placement and maybe, maybe, engine building, because as you add rooms, you get more resources and you can spend your resources in a certain way. 00:28:35.216 --> 00:28:37.424 Oh, don't forget the mutants that break into the vault. 00:28:37.424 --> 00:28:46.579 So there's mutants that break in the vault and they'll cover up some of your rooms and you have to fight the mutants off before you can, um, like, complete that row. 00:28:46.579 --> 00:28:47.562 Is that the way it is? 00:28:47.562 --> 00:28:48.303 That, yep? 00:28:48.624 --> 00:28:50.168 before you can go back into that room. 00:28:50.555 --> 00:28:51.538 Rumor that floor. 00:28:51.538 --> 00:28:54.727 I think you had to have them out by a certain point of the game. 00:28:54.727 --> 00:28:58.252 Yeah, I don't gotta be cleared out or something, but this is a good game. 00:28:58.252 --> 00:28:58.895 I like the game. 00:28:58.895

--> 00:29:06.446 I don't think it's got a heavy Apocalyptic theme right, but I suppose like the video game I so I do like that game. 00:29:06.746 --> 00:29:08.069 Well, it's like a tongue-in-cheek. 00:29:08.069 --> 00:29:09.640 It's a tongue-in-cheek. 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:12.201 Yes version of apocalyptic. 00:29:12.201 --> 00:29:16.425 Yes, exactly so that is my pick follow shelter. 00:29:16.445 --> 00:29:17.468 Okay, let's see. 00:29:17.468 --> 00:29:19.215 What am I going to choose next? 00:29:19.215 --> 00:29:20.661 What am I going to choose next? 00:29:20.661 --> 00:29:24.538 I am going to choose After us. 00:29:24.538 --> 00:29:30.863 After us, I believe, was an ascent release and you purchased it straight from the publisher. 00:29:30.863 --> 00:29:33.368 I had no idea about this game. 00:29:33.368 --> 00:29:40.581 I did see people on some videos talk about it, um, and not so much talk about it. 00:29:40.581 --> 00:29:48.242 There are people that would say, hey, this is my hall, from this con, this con, wherever con they went to, I got after us. 00:29:48.242 --> 00:29:50.167 I'm excited about it. 00:29:50.167 --> 00:29:52.955 I saw it being played there and that's all I heard. 00:29:52.955 --> 00:30:03.763 I never paid attention to it after that, until you bought the game and you were trying to give me a hint or something like that. 00:30:03.804 --> 00:30:06.496 The box is blue, nothing. 00:30:06.496 --> 00:30:13.120 Then you're telling me there's a monkey on the box and I completely lost, I'm like, and then you tell me it's after us. 00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:14.985 I'm like, after us had a monkey in the box. 00:30:14.985 --> 00:30:25.422 I had no idea what it had to do with, but it has to do with a post-apocalyptic earth when there are no humans left. 00:30:25.422 --> 00:30:42.415 There are monkeys are going to terraform the planet for themselves using the leftover tech that humans left behind and unlike, I think, a normal tribe of primates, these primates don't stick together. 00:30:42.415 --> 00:30:45.682 They're going to collect tribes of different type of apes. 00:30:45.682 --> 00:30:52.200 You have the mandrel, the great ape, you have chimpanzees and what is the oh? 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:53.124 An orangutans. 00:30:53.735 --> 00:30:55.682 So it is a deck building game. 00:30:55.682 --> 00:31:00.799 So you start out with a hand of tamarin monkeys and you're going to. 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:11.181 You're building a deck, so you draw a hand of Four cards and you're going to lay them out in a row and each of these cards are really interesting. 00:31:11.181 --> 00:31:26.322 Now, this, I think, is the most interesting part of the game that the cards have Cells on them, or half cells on them, and when you place them next to each other, they form I don't know what it's called. 00:31:26.322 --> 00:31:38.384 Um, there's three roles of them and you're going to activate, so you will activate a row, so you'll have, you'll be able to get some resources. 00:31:38.785 --> 00:31:45.134 So if you put the cards next to each other and they complete a cell I'm calling them a cell. 00:31:45.134 --> 00:31:47.344 I'm not sure what they are, but it's like a little. 00:31:47.344 --> 00:31:54.823 It's like a little box, and if you have completed box, along the rows, you get whatever's inside of there. 00:31:54.823 --> 00:32:11.380 You might get some power-ups, which are batteries, you might get different types of resources, and there's three roles and you Essentially this is simultaneous action and then, after that's over with, you can buy new monkey cards. 00:32:11.380 --> 00:32:27.935 So that's where you're building your deck and, depending on how many resources you have to spend, you can get a level one monkeys or you can, if you're saving them up a little bit, you can get a higher level monkey which have Stronger abilities, or they're going to give you points and different kinds of things like that. 00:32:28.717 --> 00:32:44.524 Um, there's also a rage track that you like to use, but it's pretty simple game and I, you know, I think it's maybe more of a medium weight Game that's not so heavy heavy that you couldn't teach it to somebody. 00:32:44.524 --> 00:32:48.439 I think we learned it rather quick and it's fun. 00:32:48.439 --> 00:32:49.524 It's really interesting. 00:32:49.665 --> 00:32:57.721 Yeah, we did do a review of this game, so if you want to do a search for chasing people's podcasts after us, we'll be able to hear our full thoughts on the game. 00:32:57.721 --> 00:33:02.500 It is a game that we both enjoy and I think, angie, you are spot on. 00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:04.706 It would be a great gift for somebody for Christmas. 00:33:05.247 --> 00:33:05.568 Thank you. 00:33:06.375 --> 00:33:14.522 My game that I'm choosing kind of along the same I'm gonna say maybe the same weight as a fallout shelter. 00:33:14.522 --> 00:33:25.466 It happens to be the game that we are going to be reviewing and that is goblin vaults, so I'm not gonna give too much away because we're gonna give a full review on this, angie. 00:33:26.736 --> 00:33:34.961 I'm going to break away from the board games and I'm gonna Hit your pocketbook here. 00:33:34.961 --> 00:33:41.743 I'm going to say the Rat Scaller Garrison Table. 00:33:41.743 --> 00:33:45.755 Do you know which one is the garrison table? 00:33:46.086 --> 00:33:48.472 Yeah, it's the one that's like a coffee table, which is pretty sweet. 00:33:48.492 --> 00:33:48.994 It is. 00:33:48.994 --> 00:33:51.531 It's the one that's like a coffee table. 00:33:51.531 --> 00:33:56.394 I just saw it the other day on Instagram. 00:33:56.394 --> 00:33:57.705 It's really pretty, you know. 00:33:57.705 --> 00:34:01.776 It's got some sliding doors where a lot of things are hidden in there. 00:34:01.776 --> 00:34:03.630 So it's a very pretty table. 00:34:03.630 --> 00:34:08.713 And I had even made a comment because we do not have a dedicated game room. 00:34:08.713 -->

00:34:16.277 So I mean, you know, it would be a little bit easier to pop an end table in the living room. 00:34:17.005 --> 00:34:18.228 We would have no living room left. 00:34:18.228 --> 00:34:20.994 With how small our living room is Dreams. 00:34:20.994 --> 00:34:25.413 Someday we will own a game, a legit game table. 00:34:25.413 --> 00:34:32.496 I would love a game topper to put over our oval kitchen table that we've been, that we play. 00:34:33.646 --> 00:34:34.248 It is oval. 00:34:34.248 --> 00:34:35.510 It's an oval table. 00:34:35.510 --> 00:34:36.634 It's been oval yeah. 00:34:37.525 --> 00:34:38.548 Oh, since we got it. 00:34:40.384 --> 00:34:42.791 I think a game topper is going to be our best bet. 00:34:43.032 --> 00:34:43.594 Yeah, for sure. 00:34:43.614 --> 00:34:44.856 It would be our best bet. 00:34:44.856 --> 00:34:54.532 It's our most possibility of getting a table, because it you can take it off, you can put it back on, you can travel with them. 00:34:54.532 --> 00:35:00.168 You know they do have some pretty nice mats to them, I think somewhere even lighted too. 00:35:00.728 --> 00:35:02.192 Yeah, I don't think they're lit. 00:35:02.192 --> 00:35:02.612 I don't know. 00:35:02.913 --> 00:35:04.054 Burkey, it's an idea. 00:35:04.735 --> 00:35:08.130 Burkey, I'll give you another idea. 00:35:09.713 --> 00:35:11.505 Hey, we're not pandering this episode. 00:35:11.505 --> 00:35:13.349 Okay, we're not pandering. 00:35:13.349 --> 00:35:19.875 We did enough on the last episode to last us the whole another year. 00:35:20.135 --> 00:35:26.016 Come on, I was going to say something funny like your game topper would. 00:35:26.016 --> 00:35:26.837 That's funny. 00:35:26.837 --> 00:35:37.980 No, I was going to say something really funny like yeah, burkey, you know those game toppers. 00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:40.272 They would look really good on an audio podcast. 00:35:40.272 --> 00:35:41.268 You should send us one. 00:35:44.248 --> 00:35:45.049 They would. 00:35:47.364 --> 00:35:56.194 So, if you're listening, chasing meples at yahoocom, anyway, okay, I got that out of my system. 00:35:56.194 --> 00:35:58.007 That's an excellent choice. 00:35:58.007 --> 00:36:03.592 Angie, a game table, that would be awesome, all right. 00:36:04.126 --> 00:36:05.884 Top that Well. 00:36:05.905 --> 00:36:15.891 I can't top a game table, but I can tell you about another game because that's all I got on my list, and that is dice thrown. 00:36:15.891 --> 00:36:21.153 So everybody knows I really like dice thrown. 00:36:21.153 --> 00:36:23.469 So what is dice thrown? 00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:28.434 Imagine a game where players take on the roles of unique heroes. 00:36:28.434 --> 00:36:33.895 Each hero has their own special set of abilities and you roll dice. 00:36:33.895 --> 00:36:42.690 So if you know how to play Yachtsy, you know how to play dice thrown and you play cards to attack your opponents and defend yourself. 00:36:42.690 --> 00:36:54.092 The combination of

dice rolling and card playing makes for a dynamic game where strategy and a bit of luck determines who wins. 00:36:55.144 --> 00:36:56.449 Can you tell Chris is rehearsed? 00:36:56.449 --> 00:36:58.868 I am in the other hand. 00:36:58.868 --> 00:37:02.931 I just throw and stuff out there, hoping something stick. 00:37:03.893 --> 00:37:04.454 You do good. 00:37:04.454 --> 00:37:06.768 You do good, Angie. 00:37:06.768 --> 00:37:07.730 What's your next gift? 00:37:07.851 --> 00:37:08.252 idea. 00:37:08.252 --> 00:37:12.714 My next gift idea are convention tickets. 00:37:12.714 --> 00:37:38.798 Convention tickets whether it is a cruise like the Dice Tower cruise or a big convention like Gen Con, or a trip across the ocean to Essen or just a smaller local convention, those would always make a nice welcome gift for anybody in your gaming circle. 00:37:39.404 --> 00:37:41.463 Con tickets are an awesome idea, angie. 00:37:41.463 --> 00:37:43.850 It doesn't have to be for the whole con. 00:37:43.850 --> 00:37:46.076 Just a day, yeah, yeah, just a day, right? 00:37:46.076 --> 00:37:55.692 You can get a lot of good playing game playing, a lot of good sightseeing, a lot of good vendor hall action in one day. 00:37:55.692 --> 00:38:03.016 All right, my next pick is, of course, another game, so that recommendation is wingspan. 00:38:03.016 --> 00:38:05.407 It's not too hard, it's not too complicated. 00:38:06.804 --> 00:38:15.771 So basically, you're playing the role of a bird enthusiast and you're trying to get birds into your wildlife reserve. 00:38:15.771 --> 00:38:21.375 Each bird has its own special abilities and requirements that you need to be able to play them. 00:38:21.375 --> 00:38:23.940 So, basically, you have to be able to feed them. 00:38:23.940 --> 00:38:28.996 You have to be able to feed them and put them in their correct habitat. 00:38:28.996 --> 00:38:41.576 So you're going to spend time managing resources, and each bird that you attract will allow you to maybe create some chain reactions of powerful combos like the tuck action. 00:38:41.576 --> 00:38:53.918 The tuck action that always wins against Angie, except for the last two times we've played, because she's become the wingspan master and it has now become a game I don't enjoy. 00:38:53.918 --> 00:39:04.090 I enjoy it up until we add up the score, and then I get so mad. 00:39:04.424 --> 00:39:06.512 It also depends on what cards you end up with. 00:39:06.512 --> 00:39:08.168 Sometimes you don't get the tuckers. 00:39:09.152 --> 00:39:09.732 Yeah, true. 00:39:10.054 --> 00:39:17.724 Yeah, there are times that you haven't gotten the cards that you can talk, so it's very card-dependent. 00:39:17.724 --> 00:39:19.330 You play the cards you get. 00:39:20.164 --> 00:39:21.509 Angie pointed out to me the last time. 00:39:21.509 --> 00:39:25.574 I'm like digressing from this whole point of this. 00:39:25.574 --> 00:39:29.634 Angie pointed out to me the last time we played a game. 00:39:29.634 -->

00:39:32.652 I have one strategy for every game. 00:39:32.772 --> 00:39:33.233 That's right. 00:39:33.233 --> 00:39:40.913 You won't vary it, no matter if you lose or not, you will not stray from that strategy. 00:39:40.913 --> 00:39:43.592 I don't even know what was the last game we played that you did that. 00:39:43.592 --> 00:39:46.648 I can't remember it was Goblin Vault. 00:39:46.648 --> 00:39:48.092 It was the faction In game points versus. 00:39:48.132 --> 00:39:50.715 It was the faction action, faction or faction points. 00:39:51.135 --> 00:39:53.420 Yeah, you kept sticking with that. 00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:54.989 You weren't looking at the end game goals. 00:39:55.444 --> 00:39:57.431 I just made a face at my mic. 00:39:58.594 --> 00:39:59.277 Oh, at the mic. 00:39:59.277 --> 00:40:00.842 Yeah, are you sure it was at the? 00:40:00.902 --> 00:40:01.202 mic. 00:40:01.202 --> 00:40:03.911 It was at my mic, not my co host. 00:40:03.911 --> 00:40:05.895 So I have one. 00:40:05.895 --> 00:40:12.072 Apparently, I have one strategy, and if it didn't work last time, it's going to work this time. 00:40:12.072 --> 00:40:12.875 It's got to work this time. 00:40:12.875 --> 00:40:14.489 That's the way it works. 00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:15.594 It's got to work at something. 00:40:15.605 --> 00:40:16.849 Well, if we play the game right, maybe it'll work. 00:40:17.424 --> 00:40:20.884 Yeah, well, we do, Okay. 00:40:20.884 --> 00:40:23.793 So that is my pick Wingspan. 00:40:24.525 --> 00:40:31.277 Okay, my next present is I am going to choose Earth. 00:40:31.277 --> 00:40:33.447 Why am I choosing Earth? 00:40:33.467 --> 00:40:35.750 It is You're going to give everybody the planet Earth. 00:40:35.750 --> 00:40:38.655 That's very nice of you, yes ma'am, you're talking about the game. 00:40:38.655 --> 00:40:39.297 Right, we are the world. 00:40:39.436 --> 00:40:40.378 The game Earth. 00:40:40.378 --> 00:40:48.578 The game Earth has been something that has been very loud. 00:40:48.578 --> 00:40:49.467 Is that a word? 00:40:49.467 --> 00:40:53.011 It's been compared to Wingspan. 00:40:53.011 --> 00:40:55.413 It's been compared to Terraforming Mars. 00:40:55.413 --> 00:41:02.757 There have been people online that have even said that it had ended those games for them. 00:41:04.025 --> 00:41:09.958 I did not get that feeling because I don't feel it is the same. 00:41:09.958 --> 00:41:13.353 I don't get that same vibe off of them. 00:41:13.353 --> 00:41:16.069 To tell you the truth, you are building a tableau. 00:41:16.069 --> 00:41:23.266 You have a ton of cards, but really I think it ends right there In Earth. 00:41:23.266 --> 00:41:26.655 As you are Terraforming Mars, you are Terraforming a planet. 00:41:26.655 --> 00:41:35.596 So all the cards you're getting are going to be plant cards, they're going to be trees and things like that Earth cards. 00:41:35.596 --> 00:41:37.711 So you will be laying those out. 00:41:37.711 --> 00:41:50.036 You are creating a grid,

five by five grid of cards, and there are certain ways that you can lay the cards out so that some will score off of each other. 00:41:50.036 --> 00:41:52.211 So you have that sort of chaining. 00:41:52.211 --> 00:42:04.974 You can build trees on them and you're building your stack, stacking them up and, depending on if you get the completed, you get different points for them. 00:42:05.804 --> 00:42:17.156 But it's got an interesting action selection where you could choose an action and at the same time, your opponent can pick an action as well, or they get a lesser action. 00:42:17.156 --> 00:42:19.692 So you're always doing something in the game. 00:42:19.692 --> 00:42:21.652 You're always playing. 00:42:21.652 --> 00:42:23.610 So there really isn't any downtime. 00:42:23.610 --> 00:42:25.891 Even when you're playing two players, there is nothing. 00:42:25.891 --> 00:42:27.768 You're always doing something. 00:42:27.768 --> 00:42:29.850 So that is a fun game. 00:42:29.850 --> 00:42:38.973 We played the beginner stage the first time, which takes out a deck of cards which I believe it's an end game scoring cards that they take out. 00:42:38.973 --> 00:42:45.590 If you're a gamer, if you play board games, you don't have to take it out, you don't need to do the beginner game. 00:42:45.590 --> 00:42:56.254 I think doing that beginner game spoiled it a little bit because I was missing something and that was that extra oomph. 00:42:56.254 --> 00:42:59.013 You know what am I trying to accomplish in this game? 00:42:59.013 --> 00:43:02.934 You take one of those scoring objectives out and it really kind of lightened it a little bit. 00:43:02.934 --> 00:43:10.368 So if you are a board gamer, definitely don't start at the beginning level and that is my pick. 00:43:10.368 --> 00:43:11.192 Earth. 00:43:11.804 --> 00:43:16.775 Very good pick, Angie, except I do think it's four by four grid. 00:43:16.795 --> 00:43:17.518 The four by four. 00:43:17.724 --> 00:43:18.706 I think it's a four by four grid. 00:43:18.907 --> 00:43:21.734 Yes, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. 00:43:21.734 --> 00:43:27.913 Who's got a five by five grid? 00:43:27.913 --> 00:43:34.070 What game King Domino does fives and what other game does five by five? 00:43:34.070 --> 00:43:38.018 Does Neovill the five by five? 00:43:39.464 --> 00:43:40.047 I have no idea. 00:43:40.047 --> 00:43:44.272 I don't know how you're able to set up games without looking at the rulebook. 00:43:44.272 --> 00:43:45.475 I do not. 00:43:45.475 --> 00:43:47.471 I'm not able to remember that stuff. 00:43:47.471 --> 00:43:51.851 So the fact that you are able to recall that from memory is amazing. 00:43:52.112 --> 00:43:53.114 Something, something. 00:43:53.114 --> 00:43:55.257 I'll take it All right. 00:43:55.496 --> 00:43:55.757 All right. 00:43:55.757 --> 00:44:08.514 So my last game on my list for a Christmas gift is, ironically, terraforming Mars, but not

just any terraforming Mars. 00:44:08.514 --> 00:44:10.731 It is the Aries expedition. 00:44:10.731 --> 00:44:15.496 In this game, players represent corporations working to terraform Mars. 00:44:15.496 --> 00:44:25.815 You're going to play project cards to raise temperature, create oceans and cultivate green areas on Mars in order to make it a hospitable planet for us to live on. 00:44:25.815 --> 00:44:40.176 It involves managing resources, playing cards for effect and strategic planning to efficiently terraform the planet and earn those oh so awesome end game points. 00:44:40.176 --> 00:44:44.232 That's probably the most out of all the games that I mentioned. 00:44:44.232 --> 00:44:46.670 That's probably the most, I guess, complex game. 00:44:46.670 --> 00:44:51.235 It's really not that complex, but it can be. 00:44:51.235 --> 00:44:55.474 It can be AP inducing at some point in time. 00:44:55.474 --> 00:45:05.456 I chose this one over the original because I think this is a maybe an easier game to get into and maybe even easier to grasp than the dice game. 00:45:05.456 --> 00:45:07.411 I think the dice game might be a little bit trickier. 00:45:07.411 --> 00:45:15.077 So those were our suggestions for games or board game tables. 00:45:17.549 --> 00:45:18.411 Convention tickets. 00:45:18.712 --> 00:45:22.210 Convention tickets, anything that we think. 00:45:22.210 --> 00:45:26.152 Well, just a general list of things that Good board game gifts. 00:45:26.394 --> 00:45:29.391 Good board game gifts or gifts for the board gamer in your life. 00:45:30.105 --> 00:45:35.449 Yes, and gifts for the people that you would like to maybe become board gamer in your life. 00:45:54.393 --> 00:45:59.519 Ah, fresh faces in the shadowed halls of cool back prison. 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.103 Welcome new inmates. 00:46:02.103 --> 00:46:11.009 I hear you're here for pilfering a turkey A bold move here. 00:46:11.009 --> 00:46:16.757 We usually stick the gears in secrets, but I admire the audacity. 00:46:16.757 --> 00:46:20.312 It seems you're my kind of people. 00:46:20.312 --> 00:46:23.384 I am Glafrun. 00:46:24.708 --> 00:46:31.444 The mastermind behind the game has become the heartbeat of this forsaken place, goblin vaults. 00:46:31.444 --> 00:46:42.737 Imagine a game born from the depths of solitude and a perfect distraction from the dismal planking of these iron bars. 00:46:42.737 --> 00:47:05.338 Here, in this dank and dreary world, we play a different kind of game, a game of strategy and deceit, where your wits are your best ally and trust is a currency even rarer than a choice turkey leg and a Thanksgiving feast. 00:47:05.338 --> 00:47:17.000 Today you'll be privy to a view of Goblin Vaults, courtesy of your daring hosts, chris and Angie. 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:33.719 They've dived into the madness of my creation, where each card is a step In a dark dance and every bed could be the difference between triumph and despair. 00:47:35.487 --> 00:47:45.219 So gather around new inmates, Let the echoes of this prison be the backdrop to a tale of cunning and ambition. 00:47:45.219 --> 00:47:59.753 For in Goblin Vaults, just like at your eerie favorite Thanksgiving GAR, it's all about taking the right risks or ending up with nothing but bones. 00:47:59.753 --> 00:48:12.576 Listen well and perhaps you'll learn something that will help you survive Both at the gaming table and within these grim walls. 00:48:12.576 --> 00:48:22.130 Who knows, you might even find that stealing that turkey was the best move you ever made. 00:48:34.464 --> 00:48:38.453 Angie, we're going to talk about Goblin Vaults. 00:48:39.154 --> 00:48:39.536 Alright. 00:48:40.886 --> 00:48:54.464 So Goblin Vaults, if you guys remember from the beginning of the podcast, is one of the games that we just recently purchased at GameholeCon and since we've brought it home from GameholeCon it has been a game that's been in our rotation. 00:48:54.868 --> 00:49:14.337 We've played it quite a few times, I would say We've brought it to it has actually landed its spot in possibly what I would like to call my EDC game collection, my everyday carry game collection, a game that will probably always stay in the Jeep with me, in case we ever need a game to play. 00:49:14.337 --> 00:49:15.367 So that is a. 00:49:15.367 --> 00:49:18.435 You know, that's a coveted spot the EDC game collection. 00:49:18.435 --> 00:49:23.980 Why don't you kick off your thoughts on Goblin Vaults? 00:49:23.980 --> 00:49:25.464 Why don't we start with Mechanics? 00:49:25.464 --> 00:49:27.331 We're not going to use the chase scale. 00:49:27.331 --> 00:49:29.982 Okay, I don't remember, even remember what it was. 00:49:30.002 --> 00:49:30.464 I don't remember it. 00:49:30.464 --> 00:49:32.271 I was trying to think of it before too. 00:49:32.271 --> 00:49:34.172 I can't remember it. 00:49:34.454 --> 00:49:35.661 So let's talk about the Mechanics. 00:49:36.344 --> 00:49:37.628 Okay, let's talk Mechanics. 00:49:37.628 --> 00:49:49.811 Well, one of the Mechanics in it is a bidding mechanic, which is the primary mechanic is how you're going to build your vault. 00:49:49.811 --> 00:50:00.509 It's interesting because you don't think that it will work at two player and it does, because at the two player level there is a warden that plays and it's not a warden. 00:50:00.509 --> 00:50:01.290 It's not a warden. 00:50:01.290 --> 00:50:01.690 What is she? 00:50:01.971 --> 00:50:03.552 She's another fellow prisoner. 00:50:03.672 --> 00:50:04.273 No. 00:50:04.634 --> 00:50:05.414 Yeah. 00:50:05.434 --> 00:50:06.315 She was the warden. 00:50:06.475 --> 00:50:07.295 No, glavroon. 00:50:07.295 --> 00:50:09.437 Yeah, she's not the warden. 00:50:09.699 --> 00:50:10.559 Are you sure? 00:50:10.799 --> 00:50:11.440 Well, look it up. 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.281 I am, I've got the book right here. 00:50:13.281 --> 00:50:14.929 I swear she was the warden. 00:50:14.929 --> 00:50:19.213 I, I swear she was the warden.

00:50:19.213 --> 00:50:23.262 Okay, well, there is a. 00:50:23.262 --> 00:50:27.759 I am going to look it, but there is another. 00:50:28.300 --> 00:50:28.842 Another player. 00:50:28.842 --> 00:50:29.263 It's an AI player. 00:50:29.525 --> 00:50:31.612 It's like an AI player, but she works well. 00:50:31.612 --> 00:50:34.510 There are symbols on the bottom of the cards. 00:50:34.510 --> 00:50:35.954 There's like it's a symbol. 00:50:35.954 --> 00:50:41.235 It's got three cards and it kind of denotes what row that she's going to take up. 00:50:41.475 --> 00:50:43.623 Yeah, when you start your game, everybody gets 10 cards. 00:50:43.623 --> 00:50:52.467 They choose one card to go into your vault, to start your vault off, and then you have nine other cards, which is essentially the length of the game, nine rounds of the game. 00:50:52.467 --> 00:51:05.009 What Angie is describing is the AI player which is added in the two player games and I believe her name is Glavroon I think that's how you pronounce it. 00:51:05.009 --> 00:51:11.011 They always go first, so there's two decks that you run off of. 00:51:11.011 --> 00:51:12.596 There's a yeah. 00:51:13.344 --> 00:51:17.112 There's the deck off to the side, and then there's the Glavroon deck, she invented the game. 00:51:17.112 --> 00:51:19.757 Oh, Raditchie Yep and the theme. 00:51:20.344 --> 00:51:25.115 She invented by Glavroon, the Dregul's greatest wartime strategist. 00:51:25.115 --> 00:51:28.451 Wow, goblin Vault is a game born of madness. 00:51:28.772 --> 00:51:29.454 No kidding. 00:51:29.824 --> 00:51:34.552 Angie developed the rules of the game while confined to Solitaire for 90 days. 00:51:34.833 --> 00:51:35.414 Whoa. 00:51:35.634 --> 00:51:41.714 Yes, yes, I want game designers out there to come up with something in 90 days. 00:51:42.144 --> 00:51:47.652 Lock yourself in a room no lights and you're going to come up with a game. 00:51:47.652 --> 00:51:48.406 That's right. 00:51:48.406 --> 00:52:00.040 She always goes first and on the bottom of the card there are numbers basically that represent the role that she's going to bid, which is the central cell block. 00:52:00.040 --> 00:52:02.833 Essentially it tells you which card she's bidding on. 00:52:02.833 --> 00:52:16.427 She puts her card there, puts her token on top, so you know it's her card and then it's the player's turn and they will do the exact same thing there is a bidding mechanic and there is a card in there, the Warden card, which is essentially a trump card. 00:52:17.304 --> 00:52:22.217 So if you want to bid on a card, anyone guarantee you win that card. 00:52:22.605 --> 00:52:25.375 Unless the person after you plays a higher trump card. 00:52:25.744 --> 00:52:26.888 And then you don't win it, correct you? 00:52:26.908 --> 00:52:27.952 guarantee you win, correct. 00:52:28.844 --> 00:52:31.673 And then there's also a ability to underbid. 00:52:31.673 --> 00:52:38.984 If you underbid, you take a gear, you put it on the winning

bid card and then the strategy is you get to take that card and put it into your vault. 00:52:39.004 --> 00:52:46.911 So if you got a card that you really like, that you want to put in your own vault, then yeah, then you use it to underbid, so you can keep the card. 00:52:47.172 --> 00:52:47.833 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:52:47.833 --> 00:52:52.025 So it's pretty simple, straightforward mechanics. 00:52:52.025 --> 00:52:54.530 There are limited actions that you can do for a round. 00:52:54.530 --> 00:52:56.434 So you can place a card. 00:52:56.434 --> 00:53:04.277 If you play a card that matches, there's symbols on each card that are called faction symbols. 00:53:04.277 --> 00:53:06.389 So there's a trump card. 00:53:06.389 --> 00:53:15.696 If you have the Warden card that's out there and you play a card that also has a matching symbol as the Warden card or the trump card, you get to do what's called a Warden action. 00:53:15.696 --> 00:53:19.193 So let's say you've got a card in your hand that you're really not feeling too good about. 00:53:19.193 --> 00:53:27.695 You can take that card, put it on the bottom of the draw pile and take a card from the top of the draw pile and it kind of gets you some new cards into your hand. 00:53:27.695 --> 00:53:35.732 Then you also, if you are the first player, oh, and then the Warden action also allows you to move cards in your vault around. 00:53:35.984 --> 00:53:46.336 That may be something that you really want to do is if you have a card that you need to place in the first tier, let's say, and that's when you can move the cards around. 00:53:46.696 --> 00:53:46.857 Right. 00:53:46.857 --> 00:53:48.286 So imagine everybody. 00:53:48.286 --> 00:53:54.458 You have columns in your vault and each column your cards will have a symbol on it. 00:53:54.458 --> 00:54:08.973 It tells you that it wants to be like you're going to stack cards in threes, in threes, and it's going to tell you that this card wants to be on the bottom, or the first card, then there's one that'll show a picture of a card in the middle. 00:54:08.973 --> 00:54:12.731 That means it should be the second card, and then the third card is the one that's on top. 00:54:13.065 --> 00:54:23.632 These are the points that Chris always goes after, because everything if you have a card in the first row that matches, that has that matching symbol. 00:54:23.632 --> 00:54:26.137 You're going to get one point at the end of the game. 00:54:26.137 --> 00:54:29.554 Here are two points for the middle row and three points for the last row. 00:54:29.554 --> 00:54:33.574 These are the points that Chris goes for every game. 00:54:33.944 --> 00:54:36.693 Well, of course you should want to go for those points. 00:54:37.045 --> 00:54:43.855 Yeah, you do, but there's strategy to this, because they're also end game goals you have to keep your eye on. 00:54:44.436 --> 00:54:50.007 Absolutely, and that's going to lead us into our next topic that I want to talk about is the scoring

system. 00:54:50.007 --> 00:54:55.230 So I think this game it's kind of point salad there's a lot of ways to get points. 00:54:55.230 --> 00:54:58.594 And you, why don't you explain the scoring system to our listeners? 00:54:59.224 --> 00:55:03.014 You get points for the rows of your vaults. 00:55:03.014 --> 00:55:08.755 If you are in the first row, which is the top row, you get one point. 00:55:08.755 --> 00:55:14.935 All the cards that relate to the second row, the middle row gets two points. 00:55:14.935 --> 00:55:24.869 Every card that relates to the third row, which is the bottom row, gets three points, which is the third tier. 00:55:25.886 --> 00:55:26.849 There's other ways to score. 00:55:26.849 --> 00:55:27.350 Keep going. 00:55:27.371 --> 00:55:27.612 Okay. 00:55:29.025 --> 00:55:31.793 You also will get points for end game goals. 00:55:32.464 --> 00:55:37.556 There are end game goals that relate to the factions. 00:55:37.556 --> 00:55:50.375 So when you choose the number of factions in the game a two player game you choose four of them, so you need to choose corresponding end game goal cards. 00:55:50.375 --> 00:55:53.705 So if I picked, I would pick. 00:55:53.705 --> 00:56:05.615 If I pick, like the red, blue and green and purple factions, I have to pick those four end game goals and of those I randomly choose two. 00:56:05.615 --> 00:56:11.373 Each of them are double-sided, so you do have some variability. 00:56:11.373 --> 00:56:22.224 I personally wish there were more goals, but this is the way the game is right now, so you can score points based on those two goals. 00:56:22.224 --> 00:56:30.609 There is also a basic goal card that's always there, which is two-sided, so that varies per game. 00:56:30.609 --> 00:56:34.103 So those are other end game goals. 00:56:34.103 --> 00:56:35.529 So those are going to be changing. 00:56:35.529 --> 00:56:47.748 Those goals change based on based on the game, whereas the and I'm calling them end game points, which are not really end game points, but those are based on your vaults, your tableau. 00:56:48.310 --> 00:56:50.577 And then there's also at the end of the game. 00:56:50.577 --> 00:56:53.837 For every gear token you have, you get one point as well. 00:56:53.837 --> 00:56:56.509 And then there's the faction icon. 00:56:56.509 --> 00:57:07.040 Players will then score two gears for each one of the faction icons, like we talked about the Snake Hammer, dragon Sword or, I guess, arrows. 00:57:07.321 --> 00:57:09.570 You do good with this, you really do good with this. 00:57:09.570 --> 00:57:12.478 I don't, somehow you do score. 00:57:12.478 --> 00:57:28.481 I tease you about always doing the same thing, but you're really good at having the tiers in the right spot and then also having the faction symbol your faction symbol on there. 00:57:28.481 --> 00:57:39.364 It kind of amazes me sometimes when I look over at you and you have it's that well put together and that's when you kind of you. 00:57:39.364 --> 00:57:41.431 It's very difficult to do that. 00:57:41.431 --> 00:57:47.225 And your end game goals I mean I try to do in my strategies. 00:57:47.225 --> 00:57:48.167 I try to. 00:57:48.167 --> 00:57:58.432 I'm doing these end game goals because some of them can really score your points, but it's difficult to do all three of them Now if you're trying to do those and do the tiers. 00:57:58.432 --> 00:58:02.768 So there is kind of point salady, but you can't. 00:58:02.768 --> 00:58:03.650 It's one of those games. 00:58:03.650 --> 00:58:06.085 You cannot do everything. 00:58:06.337 --> 00:58:19.367 You cannot do everything, yeah you're right, and then the winner is the person with the most amount of points at the end, of course, if there's a tie, the tied player with the most gear tokens wins. 00:58:19.367 --> 00:58:26.851 We have never actually got in that position yet, and if the tie is still a tie, then you share the victory. 00:58:27.353 --> 00:58:27.795 What's next? 00:58:28.858 --> 00:58:31.587 We'll talk about artwork now, as usual. 00:58:31.587 --> 00:58:34.235 Thunderworks Games has some pretty awesome artwork on there. 00:58:35.699 --> 00:58:37.665 Okay, I have an odd question. 00:58:37.665 --> 00:58:44.259 Is this part of a lockup universe or the role player universe? 00:58:44.489 --> 00:58:46.371 It's all the role player universe. 00:58:46.471 --> 00:58:48.898 I thought lockup was different than role player. 00:58:48.898 --> 00:58:53.809 No, because I don't remember like these goblins and these characters being in role player. 00:58:53.809 --> 00:58:54.692 Sure. 00:58:55.394 --> 00:58:57.541 All this stuff is in the role player universe. 00:58:58.022 --> 00:58:58.344 Okay. 00:58:59.406 --> 00:59:04.891 It's the role player universe taking place in the prison that the game lockup is about All right, okay. 00:59:04.891 --> 00:59:09.400 Excellent question and I'm glad I can answer it. 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:16.205 But as usual Thunderworks, they have some pretty good quality components. 00:59:16.205 --> 00:59:18.172 Cards are pretty nice cards. 00:59:18.172 --> 00:59:19.355 They're not cheap. 00:59:19.355 --> 00:59:21.280 They're like a linen finish on the card. 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:22.795 Wooden tokens. 00:59:22.795 --> 00:59:27.170 The art and the theme may not appeal to everybody, but it appeals to me. 00:59:27.170 --> 00:59:27.672 I like it. 00:59:27.972 --> 00:59:28.493 They're cute. 00:59:28.493 --> 00:59:30.036 I like the goblins. 00:59:30.036 --> 00:59:31.942 I think they're cute. 00:59:31.942 --> 00:59:35.846 I mean they're not sweet, cute like that. 00:59:36.145 --> 00:59:36.346 Yeah. 00:59:36.445 --> 00:59:37.766 But the goblins they're cute. 00:59:37.766 --> 00:59:38.719 Drawing they're good. 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:39.831 It's good artwork. 00:59:39.996 --> 00:59:41.150 Good, good, all right. 00:59:41.150 --> 00:59:45.420 So overall, I would say that there's a high replay value to the game. 00:59:45.420 -->

00:59:57.940 I think the fact that you swap up, your swap out your end game points or end game scoring conditions, I don't think it's one that would wear out its welcome very soon. 00:59:57.940 --> 00:59:59.467 That's my opinion. 00:59:59.467 --> 01:00:00.250 What do you think? 01:00:00.893 --> 01:00:01.414 I think it's. 01:00:01.414 --> 01:00:07.578 I think no, I think you could, because I think I'd always strive to do a little bit better, if that makes sense. 01:00:07.578 --> 01:00:14.351 You know, I would want to do better at building your tiers, because it's depending on which, you know, cards come out. 01:00:14.351 --> 01:00:16.621 I think it's replay value. 01:00:16.621 --> 01:00:18.710 I think we'll be playing this for a long time. 01:00:19.251 --> 01:00:24.511 Yeah, I think, and I think, as far as the gameplay it's, it's pretty tight, it's pretty quick too. 01:00:24.592 --> 01:00:25.033 Exactly. 01:00:25.074 --> 01:00:26.717 You can get a lot of games in there pretty quick. 01:00:26.717 --> 01:00:31.378 You know, as far as as far as some pros to this game, I think it offers some. 01:00:31.378 --> 01:00:36.859 There's some strategy, there's some depth of strategy and and your choices are meaningful. 01:00:36.859 --> 01:00:45.945 You have to really think how you're going to bid on what card, knowing that the card that is the winning bid is the one that's going to slide up into the vault. 01:00:45.945 --> 01:00:49.757 That would be your next card to possibly bid on, right. 01:00:49.757 --> 01:01:02.295 So you could either play your strategy of underbidding, if you really want the card that you have in your hand to end up in your vault, or play another strategic game of chess where you want the card that's on in the in the. 01:01:02.295 --> 01:01:03.420 I did that once? 01:01:03.641 --> 01:01:08.482 Or did you do that where you lay a card down knowing it's going to slide up and then trying to get it? 01:01:08.482 --> 01:01:10.069 I do that's a hard one. 01:01:10.491 --> 01:01:10.873 It's hard. 01:01:10.873 --> 01:01:12.862 You're taking a lot of chances, yeah. 01:01:12.961 --> 01:01:13.784 It's a hard one. 01:01:13.804 --> 01:01:14.889 It's always a chance. 01:01:15.050 --> 01:01:15.634 I don't really. 01:01:15.634 --> 01:01:16.619 Yeah, that's a hard one. 01:01:16.619 --> 01:01:18.027 I only thought about doing that. 01:01:18.027 --> 01:01:20.898 I never really really tried it once. 01:01:21.359 --> 01:01:22.945 And I couldn't you know, the only. 01:01:22.945 --> 01:01:38.199 There's only one con that I can come up with this game, and I think, I think that, even though I am playing the game with you we're sitting at the same table, we're bidding on the same cards Sometimes it feels like I'm playing a game of solitaire. 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:43.599 I think there's a solid there's, there's just like feeling of I'm playing my own game, though. 01:01:44.201 --> 01:01:45.867 Yeah, but why is that a con? 01:01:45.867 --> 01:01:46.871 I don't know. 01:01:46.975 --> 01:01:49.650 I just feel like you know, it's the bidding phase. 01:01:49.650 --> 01:01:52.855 We don't really have as much interaction there, I know. 01:01:52.875 --> 01:01:56.594 I think maybe if there were more people it would be more competitive. 01:01:56.753 --> 01:01:57.297 Possibly. 01:01:57.577 --> 01:02:00.107 You know, if you have four people, then you definitely are. 01:02:00.107 --> 01:02:06.990 We're almost at this point where we could choose our own card Yep, yep, and that's probably why I'm getting that feeling. 01:02:06.990 --> 01:02:12.833 You know, because there are points where I look at and go, okay, which card do I want, you know? 01:02:12.833 --> 01:02:25.653 So it's like if I didn't really want a certain card, I can just pick one that you know that you and Glaveron whatever her name is didn't choose. 01:02:25.653 --> 01:02:29.061 If you have like four players, there's going to be a little bit more competitive. 01:02:29.329 --> 01:02:30.076 That's a really good point. 01:02:30.096 --> 01:02:38.475 It's going to be more competitive because you're always going to be trying to outbid somebody Because you, we don't two player, you don't really have to do that, you can play. 01:02:38.475 --> 01:02:41.592 You know you really don't have to play that competitive If you have four people. 01:02:41.592 --> 01:02:53.371 Then you are going to be a little bit more competitive and it's going to be maybe a little bit more intense, intense, I don't know how intense, but maybe more cut throat you may be cut throat. 01:02:53.451 --> 01:02:57.940 I think maybe your, yeah, maybe your turns have more consequence. 01:02:58.181 --> 01:02:58.400 Yeah. 01:02:59.182 --> 01:02:59.623 Your choice. 01:02:59.743 --> 01:02:59.923 Yeah. 01:03:00.150 --> 01:03:01.813 Good point. 01:03:01.813 --> 01:03:04.240 I guess what you're just saying is we need friends. 01:03:04.240 --> 01:03:10.163 So anybody want to be our friend? 01:03:10.163 --> 01:03:12.210 Chasing meples at yahoocom? 01:03:12.471 --> 01:03:13.956 Yeah, if you have a game table. 01:03:14.811 --> 01:03:16.336 Oh yeah, only if you have a game table. 01:03:16.336 --> 01:03:20.127 All right, no, that's just kidding. 01:03:20.127 --> 01:03:21.070 Okay, all right. 01:03:21.070 --> 01:03:22.937 Well, that was goblin vault. 01:03:22.937 --> 01:03:29.661 Angie, do you want to wrap it up with anything? 01:03:30.001 --> 01:03:31.083 Thank you for listening. 01:03:31.083 --> 01:03:38.849 Woo Wait just yes, as part of put a period on it. 01:03:38.849 --> 01:03:54.618 I would like to say to all of our listeners around the world, even those that are not celebrating the holiday, that we are celebrating here in the United States, chasing meples, would like to thank you very much for listening. 01:03:54.618 --> 01:03:58.454 Have a great Thursday. 01:03:58.454 --> 01:04:00.481 Have a great. 01:04:00.481 --> 01:04:05.240 Thursday we're going to have a great Thanksgiving, because they don't have Thanksgiving. 01:04:05.349 --> 01:04:08.739 Yeah Well, happy Thanksgiving everybody, and that's it. 01:04:08.739 --> 01:04:09.502 That's it. 01:04:09.502 --> 01:04:11.829 What a way to end this. 01:04:15.057 --> 01:04:16.821 I don't know what to do. 01:04:16.821 --> 01:04:18.646 How do you normally end it? 01:04:18.987 --> 01:04:20.029 You chasing those meples? 01:04:23.855 --> 01:04:24.896 I guess I could have said that