บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Uranian Planets with Bill Meridian

00:05:04.939 --> 00:05:10.259 is the focus of today. Bill Meridian earned his MBA 68 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:14.540 from New York University in 1972, the same year he 69 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:20.779 began studying astrology. His study of core energetics, Zazen and 70 00:05:20.819 --> 00:05:27.120 Tai Chi, deepened his understanding of the Uranian system. He 71 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.759 was a member of Vienna's, I hope I'm pronouncing this right, 72 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.120 Kano Circle, and serves on the board of the Foundation 73 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:41.470 for the Study of Cycles. His books explore astrology, planetary cycles, geopolitics, eclipses, 74 00:05:41.990 --> 00:05:45.149 and financial markets. Thank you for being here, Bill. 75 00:05:46.509 --> 00:05:47.850 Well, thank you for having me, Kathy. 76 00:05:49.449 --> 00:05:51.230 I have never asked you this question in all of 77 00:05:51.290 --> 00:05:54.430 our conversations. But I always like to ask a first-time guest, 78 00:05:54.870 --> 00:05:56.589 how did you come to astrology? 79 00:05:58.610 --> 00:06:02.170 Well, I always had an interest in things that were otherworldly, 80 00:06:02.209 --> 00:06:05.500 like UFOs. And I didn't know anything about astrology or tarot. 81 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:13.339 And so I got out of university and I started 82 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.550 looking around at such matters. And I met an astrologer 83 00:06:17.589 --> 00:06:19.740 whom I still know. He lives north of here. who said, 84 00:06:19.750 --> 00:06:22.220 I'll tell you one thing, you'll never have any inheritance. 85 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:24.439 I've sat in the food on the eighth house. Well, 86 00:06:24.459 --> 00:06:26.639 that was ridiculous. My father was one of the wealthiest 87 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.420 men in New Jersey. And he lost everything. So I 88 00:06:30.459 --> 00:06:34.060 was impressed by the prediction, depressed by the event itself. 89 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.639 And then I started studying the stock market. And I 90 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.199 got out with my MBA in 72, just in time 91 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:44.060 to see everything I was taught not work out or 92 00:06:44.100 --> 00:06:47.980 go wrong. And so I started looking for alternative forecasting methods, 93 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.180 and I joined the Foundation for the Study of Cycles, 94 00:06:50.259 --> 00:06:54.000 which then was in Pittsburgh. And I noticed that the 95 00:06:54.259 --> 00:06:59.379 cycles they isolated relating to the stock market were 18.6, 9.3 years. 96 00:06:59.620 --> 00:07:01.750 What does that sound like? The lunar node and half 97 00:07:01.769 --> 00:07:04.889 the lunar node. And then there were other cycles that 98 00:07:04.930 --> 00:07:09.490 were 3.8 something years is equivalent to Mars and the 99 00:07:09.629 --> 00:07:14.050 asteroid Vesta. So I saw that and I said, I 100 00:07:14.649 --> 00:07:17.129 started taking lessons. I took lessons for two years in 101 00:07:17.149 --> 00:07:18.829 New Jersey, then moved it to New York, which is 102 00:07:18.870 --> 00:07:21.569 where everything really accelerated. Because New York at that time, 103 00:07:21.610 --> 00:07:24.290 we had Charles Chang, John Townley, Rob Hand, and all 104 00:07:24.350 --> 00:07:29.329 the best astrologers you could find. Wow. 105 00:07:29.490 --> 00:07:31.300 Oh, and you were in the village too. So I 106 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.300 imagine that was a fertile environment. 107 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.649 I was at 111 Waverly Place, apartment three, zip 10011, 108 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:39.800 if you believe in numerology. 109 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:48.930 That's wonderful. So you immediately build a bridge between your 110 00:07:49.850 --> 00:07:54.129 training and your interest in the financial markets, and then 111 00:07:54.149 --> 00:07:57.050 it went straight to cycles. I mean, I don't know 112 00:07:57.089 --> 00:08:00.189 too many people who have this as their story. It's 113 00:08:00.509 --> 00:08:03.459 usually I saw star squirrels in the grocery store, and 114 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:09.160 they intrigued me. But yours was a highly practical introduction 115 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:09.879 from the get-go. 116 00:08:11.689 --> 00:08:14.290 Yes. And I didn't know of anyone who had done 117 00:08:14.310 --> 00:08:16.449 this type of work, but let's remember there were no 118 00:08:16.490 --> 00:08:20.259 computers and there were no, no software back then. And 119 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.220 I looked at whatever I could look at. And Ed 120 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.939 Dewey was director of the foundation from 1940 and in 121 00:08:26.939 --> 00:08:29.639 1971 or two, I guess he, he saw he was 122 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:34.350 very senior in his life. And he wrote an article 123 00:08:34.409 --> 00:08:37.470 called Mercury and Stock Prices. And he wrote that when 124 00:08:37.509 --> 00:08:43.009 the sun is conjunct Mercury in the I'm trying to remember, 125 00:08:43.049 --> 00:08:48.210 the 10th sector. By that, he meant Capricorn. Dow Jones 126 00:08:48.250 --> 00:08:52.350 has tended to rally. It used to be, during his period, 127 00:08:52.350 --> 00:08:55.409 89% of the time. What he meant was the sun 128 00:08:55.429 --> 00:08:59.299 conjunct Mercury in Capricorn, which can only happen, as you know, 129 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:00.840 at the end of the year. And a lot of 130 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:02.559 people would say, well, the market's up at the end 131 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.299 of the year anyway. Yeah, but it's only up about 132 00:09:04.299 --> 00:09:06.759 70% of the time. With this, it's 89. Right now, 133 00:09:06.899 --> 00:09:12.330 it's currently running at 84. And Do you want me 134 00:09:12.350 --> 00:09:15.809 to talk a little about the history of the foundation? Oh, sure. 135 00:09:15.830 --> 00:09:16.190 Go ahead. 136 00:09:17.529 --> 00:09:22.049 Ed Dewey was in university in the late

30s. And 137 00:09:23.809 --> 00:09:27.149 his roommate was a fellow that went on to become 138 00:09:27.269 --> 00:09:30.259 a well-known executive in the life insurance industry. And I 139 00:09:30.299 --> 00:09:35.320 started out in that industry in 72. And he said, look, 140 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.500 Dewey said to his roommate, I did these planetary cycles. 141 00:09:39.509 --> 00:09:44.419 He had like graphs, like not horoscopes, but Jupiter, Saturn. Look, 142 00:09:44.500 --> 00:09:47.019 these things tend to happen at regular intervals, matching the 143 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.399 cycles of the planets. And he said, well, I have 144 00:09:49.419 --> 00:09:52.110 a classmate of ours who might be interested. It was 145 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.070 David Williams, now known to all of us or remembered 146 00:09:55.110 --> 00:09:58.809 as the late Lieutenant Commander David Williams, who showed them 147 00:09:58.970 --> 00:10:03.399 how to do round horoscopes. And an insurance executive whose 148 00:10:03.450 --> 00:10:05.720 name I'm still trying to remember, I should remember it, 149 00:10:05.769 --> 00:10:07.850 but I don't, he said, well, I can go, I 150 00:10:08.029 --> 00:10:10.649 know Clement Stone, the insurance magnate, and I can ask 151 00:10:10.690 --> 00:10:13.190 him for an endowment to start a foundation. If I 152 00:10:13.250 --> 00:10:16.450 mention planets, he'll never give us anything. Let's call it 153 00:10:16.470 --> 00:10:19.070 the Foundation for the Study of Cycles. And that is 154 00:10:19.110 --> 00:10:22.460 how they got their endowment and got started. And after 155 00:10:22.460 --> 00:10:25.100 31 years, he finally came out and said the basis 156 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.600 for all the cycles is planets. And he published Mercury 157 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:33.480 and Stock Prices. And the files used to be filled 158 00:10:33.580 --> 00:10:37.480 with lots of planetary stuff. But a certain director, I 159 00:10:37.500 --> 00:10:40.679 got an eyewitness on this, pilfered all of that stuff 160 00:10:40.700 --> 00:10:43.669 while he was director and made off with it. And 161 00:10:44.169 --> 00:10:48.299 some of my files were this thick. And the foundations 162 00:10:48.419 --> 00:10:50.740 were this thick because I had gotten all the information 163 00:10:50.779 --> 00:11:03.149 before he took over. So that took me up to 72, 74, 75. 164 00:11:03.149 --> 00:11:06.549 And at that time, I was very lucky. God bless me. 165 00:11:06.590 --> 00:11:09.850 Whenever I study something, I get the best teachers. And 166 00:11:09.889 --> 00:11:13.750 we had a notice up in an astrology school here 167 00:11:13.789 --> 00:11:16.590 in Hackensack, New Jersey, And I went over to New 168 00:11:16.649 --> 00:11:19.190 York and I met John Tanley and Charles Jane. And 169 00:11:19.210 --> 00:11:21.889 of course, I felt like I didn't know anything. And 170 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.759 then I started taking classes with Al Morrison

and I 171 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:35.549 met Arlene Neimark, Lee Laban, Faith McInerney and Diana Rosenberg. 172 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:38.570 And they had computerized charts. And I said, where did 173 00:11:38.590 --> 00:11:41.169 you get those? And they said, from Neil Nicholson, Astro Computing. 174 00:11:41.529 --> 00:11:43.169 I said, well, wait a minute. Wait just a minute. 175 00:11:43.190 --> 00:11:45.110 What are all these other symbols in here? Well, those 176 00:11:45.149 --> 00:11:50.259 are the four asteroids that Eleanor Bach introduced into astrology. 177 00:11:50.899 --> 00:11:54.179 And eight other bodies of the Hamburg School planets. And 178 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.139 I said, what is this? And of course, if you've 179 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.340 just been in astrology two, three, four years, this was mind-boggling. 180 00:12:00.659 --> 00:12:02.809 So I went to Eleanor and I studied with her. 181 00:12:03.450 --> 00:12:07.789 And I remember Dr. Edgar Wagner was 76 years old 182 00:12:07.830 --> 00:12:10.049 or 78, he was a PhD in chemistry with a 183 00:12:10.110 --> 00:12:13.509 great knowledge of homeopathy. And some lady said, you know, 184 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:17.019 we'd meet in groups. I'm going to start something or other, 185 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:20.419 a company to do this. And he said, Dr. White, 186 00:12:20.580 --> 00:12:22.840 it's not going to work out. And we said, why? 187 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:24.899 It's the third house. There's nothing in the third house. 188 00:12:25.539 --> 00:12:27.779 Saturn is going to run over Capito in the third house. 189 00:12:28.509 --> 00:12:31.009 What's Capito? It was one of the Iranian planets that 190 00:12:31.029 --> 00:12:34.090 rules integration. And he was right. Saturn transited over it. 191 00:12:34.789 --> 00:12:36.970 and she could not get the people to integrate. There 192 00:12:36.990 --> 00:12:41.059 were too many saturnine egos squabbling, and it didn't work 193 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:44.980 out just as Dr. Wagner predicted. And so that was 194 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.320 the first time I ever saw Uranian planets actually work. 195 00:12:49.259 --> 00:12:52.059 And then you made a lifetime of following them and 196 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:57.210 studying them. So for the people who are watching who 197 00:12:57.269 --> 00:13:00.330 are unfamiliar with this, this is a school that was 198 00:13:00.389 --> 00:13:08.340 developed in Hamburg based on observations about military movements? Isn't 199 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:09.259 that how it started? 200 00:13:10.059 --> 00:13:13.179 Alfred Widow was an infantryman in World War I. And 201 00:13:13.259 --> 00:13:15.720 after the war, he was wondering, he thought if astrology 202 00:13:15.740 --> 00:13:17.759 is valid, I should be able to predict the outbreak 203 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:20.820 of all the battles. And he was unable to do so. 204 00:13:21.019 --> 00:13:24.080 So he developed a 90 degree dial, which is obviously 205 00:13:24.100 --> 00:13:27.519 it's the fourth and the eighth harmonic. And he would 206 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:31.720 put planets and he would notice that sometimes there was 207 00:13:31.750 --> 00:13:34.980 a symmetrical arrangement, which we call planetary picture or a 208 00:13:35.019 --> 00:13:40.320 midpoint structure. And sometimes there would be an event and 209 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:43.120 sometimes not. And so he put a little X to 210 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:45.440 make a complete planetary picture. In other words, you've got 211 00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:48.240 the planet here, a planet here, one here and one here. 212 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.039 If one is missing, he put that X there, that 213 00:13:51.139 --> 00:13:56.519 X became Cupido. And that is how it began. Now, 214 00:13:56.580 --> 00:13:59.659 he developed, I think, too, and his student, Friedrich Seguin, 215 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.980 who was a professional mathematician, developed the other four or six. 216 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:06.600 I don't know. Different people have different stories. But that 217 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:09.750 came to the United States with Hans Niggemann, who lived 218 00:14:09.779 --> 00:14:13.909 in the Bronx. And Hans was one of Bitter's original students. 219 00:14:14.889 --> 00:14:17.970 And he taught there. Now, the people who taught me 220 00:14:18.590 --> 00:14:20.809 studied with him. And not only that, my Zen master 221 00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:25.129 studied with him. And so there's like a circle here 222 00:14:25.149 --> 00:14:27.289 of people I guess I was supposed to meet or whatever. 223 00:14:27.379 --> 00:14:31.120 And that is how it developed. But what really blew 224 00:14:31.139 --> 00:14:34.679 me away, it was very handsome, young black man. I 225 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:36.320 guess he was in his late 20s and I was 226 00:14:36.379 --> 00:14:41.559 in my early 20s, Michael Dubois. And I think he 227 00:14:41.580 --> 00:14:44.139 died at a young age. I'm not sure. But he 228 00:14:44.179 --> 00:14:47.940 did a lecture and he pointed out, he said, these 229 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.409 are the Iranian planets and They're slow moving, so if 230 00:14:51.450 --> 00:14:54.570 you use Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto in mundane astrology, shouldn't 231 00:14:54.610 --> 00:14:57.470 you use these? And he pointed out when we had 232 00:14:57.490 --> 00:15:00.789 worldwide peace demonstrations, we had Apollon at zero Libra. Well, 233 00:15:00.809 --> 00:15:05.750 zero Libra, they also, this bit introduced the world points, 234 00:15:05.870 --> 00:15:10.870 which are zero of the cardinal signs. Zero Aries, Cancer, Capricorn, 235 00:15:10.889 --> 00:15:13.830 and Libra. If you're plus or minus one degree from that, 236 00:15:14.409 --> 00:15:16.870 then anything you say or do goes right out into 237 00:15:16.889 --> 00:15:20.120 the world. So if you're a writer, and you want 238 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.840 everybody to read

your material, you want your Mercury there, 239 00:15:23.860 --> 00:15:26.360 or you want it at 15 fix, because 15 fix 240 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.659 is 45 degrees to the world points. And Duval went 241 00:15:30.700 --> 00:15:35.200 on to say, look, when Cupido, which is integration coming together, 242 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:38.970 the urge to merge, was conjunct Poseidon, we had what? 243 00:15:39.070 --> 00:15:43.649 Spiritual communities. We had spiritual communes in the 60s. I said, 244 00:15:43.669 --> 00:15:47.360 hold it. I said, these planets are this powerful. And 245 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.580 he said when Kronos was square Zeus, which it was 246 00:15:50.620 --> 00:15:53.419 from most of the last century, but he said this 247 00:15:53.470 --> 00:15:57.850 was during the two world wars. And there's one manifestation 248 00:15:57.889 --> 00:16:02.909 is Kronos, you're up high. Zeus is like Zeus throwing lightning. 249 00:16:02.950 --> 00:16:06.129 It rules bombs and rockets and all the great spires, 250 00:16:06.210 --> 00:16:08.649 these beautiful churches and all that reached up to the 251 00:16:08.700 --> 00:16:13.799 sky were destroyed by aerial bombardment. And so when I 252 00:16:13.820 --> 00:16:16.639 saw that, I said to myself, I've got to study 253 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:20.019 this and find out all about it. And to me, 254 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.029 you know, to do a mundane forecast, if you do 255 00:16:22.049 --> 00:16:24.250 a mundane forecast, to me, you look like you're eating 256 00:16:24.289 --> 00:16:28.440 soup with a fork. It's not enough tools for the job. 257 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.759 So in Uranian astrology, there are eight bodies that are 258 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:40.799 looked at, and they have very long orbits. The first one, Cupido, 259 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.730 is a little bit slower than Pluto. It's about the equivalent, 260 00:16:44.789 --> 00:16:48.029 I would say. But all of the others have really, 261 00:16:48.070 --> 00:16:53.610 really long orbits. And when I... Well, back up. What 262 00:16:53.649 --> 00:16:54.950 inspired you to write your book? 263 00:16:57.129 --> 00:17:01.149 Well, I started taking notes because... I also, I started without, 264 00:17:01.730 --> 00:17:04.410 I had taken an encounter group at Greenwich Village in NYU. 265 00:17:04.789 --> 00:17:06.029 And it did me a lot of good. So I 266 00:17:06.049 --> 00:17:07.789 was looking for another one. Little did I know what 267 00:17:07.809 --> 00:17:11.190 was going to happen. My cousin introduced me to a 268 00:17:11.190 --> 00:17:13.190 woman who was part of this group. And so I 269 00:17:13.230 --> 00:17:16.210 went to an encounter group. It was very heavy. And 270 00:17:16.269 --> 00:17:18.809 I was not ready for that. And I went through 271 00:17:18.869 --> 00:17:21.009 two years of being in that group. And then I 272 00:17:21.089 --> 00:17:23.569 enrolled in the training. And it was a very tough. 273 00:17:24.529 --> 00:17:26.789 It was two courses. One was five years. One was 274 00:17:26.829 --> 00:17:28.869 three years. I took them concurrently. Then I took two. 275 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:32.960 postgraduate years, and I have no planets in water. So 276 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.000 I started in the back of the class. I think 277 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.519 I finished in the back of the class. But Eva 278 00:17:38.579 --> 00:17:45.359 Parakos would go into trance and speak through a medium, 279 00:17:45.660 --> 00:17:47.900 through a spirit called the guide. And one of the 280 00:17:48.069 --> 00:17:51.029 earliest lectures from the late 50s, early 60s is the 281 00:17:51.069 --> 00:17:54.549 lower self, the higher self, and the mask. Now, immediately 282 00:17:54.609 --> 00:17:56.829 I put it together. The mask is the ascendant. the 283 00:17:56.869 --> 00:17:59.470 higher self is Kronos from the Uranian system. And there's 284 00:17:59.529 --> 00:18:01.690 no doubt in my mind that the lower self is Hades. 285 00:18:02.650 --> 00:18:05.509 And I was working in this, in this, you know, 286 00:18:05.549 --> 00:18:07.529 I did this for a decade. And so I would 287 00:18:07.549 --> 00:18:10.569 get the horoscopes of the people and, you know, somebody's 288 00:18:10.950 --> 00:18:13.130 Hades would be activated. And it's, oh, my lower self 289 00:18:13.190 --> 00:18:15.849 is out of control. Or, you know, people would give, 290 00:18:15.890 --> 00:18:18.309 you know, very negative feedback, like you're being cruel to 291 00:18:18.329 --> 00:18:22.130 your wife again or whatever, or Kronos would be very activated. Oh, 292 00:18:22.150 --> 00:18:25.450 you're acting from your lower self. You're so generous. And 293 00:18:25.470 --> 00:18:30.000 I said, that's, I started to make affiliations between the 294 00:18:30.019 --> 00:18:33.029 planets and what I was learning. And then after nine 295 00:18:33.069 --> 00:18:35.970 years of no social life and all my time and 296 00:18:36.009 --> 00:18:38.569 effort going to this group, I swore I'd never do 297 00:18:38.609 --> 00:18:40.710 anything like that again. And for one year, I was 298 00:18:40.809 --> 00:18:44.809 actually living a cool life in Greenwich Village. And then 299 00:18:44.849 --> 00:18:46.890 I met a martial artist who introduced me to our 300 00:18:46.950 --> 00:18:49.309 Zen master. And then it started all over again, but worse. 301 00:18:50.009 --> 00:18:52.539 And it turned out that he was a student of 302 00:18:52.579 --> 00:18:54.579 Hans Negoen. So is it Bill? 303 00:18:55.059 --> 00:18:55.380 Yes, yes. 304 00:18:56.049 --> 00:18:59.210 You see Duval? I said, yeah. And he's sitting in meditation. 305 00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:04.490 He says, good at sitting. He has a strong amidos. 306 00:19:05.890 --> 00:19:08.829 Because amidos is concentrating your energy in one place. Because, 307 00:19:08.849 --> 00:19:10.670 you know, in Zen, if you put your body in 308 00:19:10.690 -->

00:19:13.130 a certain position, you do it right. You're attracting. You're 309 00:19:13.210 --> 00:19:16.720 bringing in energy. And we were out doing work practice, 310 00:19:16.940 --> 00:19:18.279 I think, a year or two in the spring. We 311 00:19:18.299 --> 00:19:23.119 would work on it. And there's Duval. And I said, master, 312 00:19:23.140 --> 00:19:26.589 can I see Duval? He said, yeah, he's a strong amethyst. 313 00:19:26.609 --> 00:19:29.309 He had a jackhammer and he was drilling down into rock. 314 00:19:30.630 --> 00:19:33.990 And amethyst rules what's below the surface. Gemologists have this, 315 00:19:34.069 --> 00:19:40.029 people who deal in road materials like tar, macadam, gravel, topsoil, 316 00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:43.140 they all have a strong amethyst. So I had him 317 00:19:43.140 --> 00:19:47.660 to talk to from time to time. And you know, 318 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.640 when you sit, your Admitus, you just, and, you know, 319 00:19:50.660 --> 00:19:53.099 the session would go on for two, sometimes three days. 320 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.500 And there was a chant at the end. My mind 321 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:01.130 expressed everywhere. My consciousness is every when, every when and everywhere. 322 00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.650 In other words, time and distance. And when you walked 323 00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:05.529 out of the monastery, when I walked out late on 324 00:20:05.569 --> 00:20:09.009 a Sunday, that's exactly how I felt. That feeling of, 325 00:20:09.069 --> 00:20:12.750 you know, that is Apollon, which is the diametric polar 326 00:20:12.789 --> 00:20:15.529 opposite to Admetus. So if you sit and you concentrate 327 00:20:15.549 --> 00:20:18.380 and you work on something, that's Admetus. When you're ready 328 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:20.500 to present it to the world and sell it, that's Apollon, 329 00:20:20.660 --> 00:20:25.119 to let everybody know about it. So that's how it developed. 330 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:27.140 And I took notes and took notes. But the problem 331 00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:31.130 was I wrote Hades and Capito very fast. Well, why 332 00:20:31.210 --> 00:20:33.349 is that? Well, if the planets are strong in your chart, 333 00:20:33.390 --> 00:20:35.109 you know them really well because you have to deal 334 00:20:35.150 --> 00:20:37.359 with the energies. But if they're not, so I had 335 00:20:37.380 --> 00:20:41.309 a tough time with Vulcanus, Zeus, not so much with Poseidon, 336 00:20:41.329 --> 00:20:43.809 but I had no idea how many notes I had, 337 00:20:43.849 --> 00:20:46.930 how many journals I had saved. I mean, any Uranian 338 00:20:46.990 --> 00:20:49.539 astrology lecture, I went through it all. And by the 339 00:20:49.579 --> 00:20:53.319 time I got to the last planet, Poseidon, I realized 340 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:56.299 that the format in the first chapter of the computer 341 00:20:56.339 --> 00:20:58.339 was completely different. I had to go back and revise 342 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:00.869 the formats. So it just took a very long time 343 00:21:00.900 --> 00:21:01.690 to put this together. 344 00:21:03.549 --> 00:21:07.470 And it's based on your, I mean, decades of observation. 345 00:21:07.579 --> 00:21:10.460 It sounds like you were watching the archetypes that are 346 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:13.279 being pointed out to you as you were learning them. 347 00:21:13.299 --> 00:21:15.039 You were seeing people who embodied them. 348 00:21:16.700 --> 00:21:19.240 Yeah, and a big help to me was David Cochran 349 00:21:19.299 --> 00:21:21.940 and his Sirius software because they have in there a 350 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:26.890 facility where they have all the rotten, highly rated birth dates, 351 00:21:26.970 --> 00:21:29.230 a big database. So I can actually go in there 352 00:21:29.250 --> 00:21:33.289 and say, show me all the charts that have midheaven 353 00:21:33.329 --> 00:21:37.319 conjunct zeus or mercury conjunct hades or and that would 354 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.920 generate lists and a lot of 75 of the people 355 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:42.640 were foreign born i never heard of them so i 356 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:44.799 had to do a little bit of analysis of their 357 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:47.940 lives but that was helpful to get me outside of 358 00:21:47.980 --> 00:21:50.819 the group that i knew you know friends people i 359 00:21:50.859 --> 00:21:53.880 knew in business people i knew in astrology to get 360 00:21:53.940 --> 00:21:57.200 me out into the world like vulcanus has got to 361 00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:59.279 do with power i don't have a strong one so 362 00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:02.890 um It shows up on the Midheaven of Bobby Bonds. 363 00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:04.970 Baseball players will know that Bobby was one of the 364 00:22:05.009 --> 00:22:08.630 great power hitters. That's what he's known for, power. He's 365 00:22:08.650 --> 00:22:12.029 got Vulcanus right on the Midheaven and it equals his Cupido, 366 00:22:12.049 --> 00:22:14.349 which is family. Well, he's the father of Barry Bonds, 367 00:22:14.390 --> 00:22:20.630 who holds now the home run record. Vulcanus, Cupido, Ascendant, Midheaven. Now, 368 00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:23.240 if it didn't, if those things don't tie into your 369 00:22:23.859 --> 00:22:27.980 personal points, Sun, Moon, Midheaven, Ascendant, North Node, then it's 370 00:22:28.019 --> 00:22:31.579 probably not significant in your life. It's like having Now, 371 00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:34.059 everybody has Pluto in their chart, but it's not necessarily 372 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:41.599 meaningful or powerful. And one of the, studying Apollon, somebody 373 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:46.200 went to Tony Robbins, and they had the country's leading 374 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:50.289 expert on direct marketing speak, a woman. And he got 375 00:22:50.309 --> 00:22:53.369 the birth time of the date. And she has Apollon 376 00:22:53.589 --> 00:22:58.170 and zero Libra,

which is her ascendant. Apollon is distribution 377 00:22:58.230 --> 00:23:00.759 and marketing. And the fact that she has it on 378 00:23:00.779 --> 00:23:03.079 her ascendant, which is also a world point, means she's 379 00:23:03.099 --> 00:23:08.710 the best at it. And when you started to see 380 00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:11.329 stuff like, this is how, now this next example, how 381 00:23:11.349 --> 00:23:15.109 to combine this, this woman complained to me, I'm married 382 00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:17.029 to a guy in the Cayman Islands. I want to 383 00:23:17.069 --> 00:23:19.509 leave him. And could you look at my chart? I said, well, 384 00:23:19.529 --> 00:23:21.769 what's his chart? And I looked at, she says, well, 385 00:23:21.789 --> 00:23:24.849 he's cold and he's always focused on his work and 386 00:23:24.869 --> 00:23:27.490 he's got no time for me. And he's, and, uh, 387 00:23:28.970 --> 00:23:30.299 I look at his chart, and he's got the Sun 388 00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:32.400 conjunct Admetus. I said, well, what does he do for 389 00:23:32.420 --> 00:23:36.660 a living? He provides gravel, asphalt, tar, crushed rock for 390 00:23:36.700 --> 00:23:43.579 road construction. So that's both ends of Admetus. And right 391 00:23:43.619 --> 00:23:46.440 here in my bookshelf is, where is it? The Survival 392 00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:48.859 of Civilization, I think it's called. I mentioned this guy. 393 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.720 I don't have an exact birth time, but it's in 394 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.410 there somewhere. But I think it's called The Survival of Civilization. 395 00:23:56.529 --> 00:23:58.380 the author of this book, his chart is in there, 396 00:23:58.390 --> 00:24:01.819 his solar chart. His son is conjunct Admetus, and he 397 00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:04.700 was studying, he was concerned about the loss of fertility 398 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.319 in the soil and the fact that he was a nutritionist. 399 00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:11.339 He was studying, you know, the lack of nutrition was 400 00:24:11.380 --> 00:24:14.940 leading to many illnesses. He invented a machine that crushes rock, 401 00:24:15.630 --> 00:24:17.950 and you sprinkle the rock dust, and he got double 402 00:24:18.029 --> 00:24:19.829 or triple the yield that you would get without it. 403 00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:24.609 John Hamaker is his name. H-A-M-A-K-E-R. He wrote The Survival 404 00:24:24.650 --> 00:24:29.740 of Civilization. But He bought this, before global warming, he 405 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.740 had his own Hamaker warming theory, I guess, that we 406 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.180 were all going to be starved. By this time, we 407 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.579 should all have starved to death, according to his book. So, 408 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.940 but what kind of, that's a son of me, this attitude, 409 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.369 like the end is coming. But he was, he crushed 410 00:24:45.690 --> 00:24:50.210 rock to improve crop yields.

I don't think you would 411 00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:51.609 see that with any of the other planets. 412 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:59.769 No, no. And so just to double back here to actually, 413 00:24:59.789 --> 00:25:01.390 we're going to take a break in just a second. 414 00:25:01.990 --> 00:25:06.230 I would like to just detail what these different bodies are. 415 00:25:06.250 --> 00:25:09.509 And it seems to me they're almost like a distilled 416 00:25:09.609 --> 00:25:13.799 version of energies that you get in the planets, but 417 00:25:13.859 --> 00:25:17.579 just distilled and focused and much more powerful. That's my 418 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:23.089 uneducated take on it all. So, This is a good point. 419 00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:26.839 Everyone hang out. We'll be back very, very soon in 420 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.470 a couple of minutes and we will continue talking about 421 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:43.200 Uranian astrology. Want help with your own celestial compass? 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By live 430 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.900 streaming your show on OM Times TV and broadcasting it 431 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.859 across the extensive OM Times radio and TV networks, you 432 00:26:57.900 --> 00:27:01.200 become more than a host. You become an ambassador and 433 00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:05.390 a force for positive change. OM Times. Open yourself to 434 00:27:05.410 --> 00:27:06.349 the possibilities. 435 00:27:09.789 --> 00:27:13.849 If I could be you, you could be me for 436 00:27:13.869 --> 00:27:20.019 just one hour. If we could find a way to 437 00:27:20.059 --> 00:27:28.619 get inside each other's minds. Welcome back to Celestial Compass. 438 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:48.619 I'm talking today with Bill Meridian about astrology. He has 439 00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:53.140 just written a book, The Life Processes of Uranium Planets. 440 00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:55.609 Do I have the title right? Yes. 441 00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:56.609 Okay. 442 00:27:56.769 --> 00:27:57.890 Can you show people your book? 443 00:27:58.970 --> 00:27:59.470 Sure can. 444 00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:08.569 There you go. Big, thick guide. And what you have 445 00:28:08.609 --> 00:28:12.299 done with this is you have a chapter on each 446 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.759 of the uranium planets and with a really thorough discussion 447 00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.720 and heavy on examples of the various ways that they 448 00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.819 play out. And I was saying before the break that 449 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.609 my unschooled, I've only taken a few courses in Uranian astrology, 450 00:28:27.660 --> 00:28:31.470 my unschooled take on this is like they're really intense 451 00:28:31.549 --> 00:28:37.109 distilled expressions of energies that you might see in other planets, 452 00:28:37.589 --> 00:28:43.269 but much more focused and powerful. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. 453 00:28:44.140 --> 00:28:47.059 Well, they're like the outer, like Pluto and Neptune, they're 454 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.039 like the outer planets, yeah. That's correct. 455 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.539 And they seem to, a lot of them seem to 456 00:28:53.579 --> 00:28:57.039 have to do with how you wield power, how you 457 00:28:57.099 --> 00:28:59.519 embody power, how you use it, how you focus it, 458 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:01.609 or not. 459 00:29:03.009 --> 00:29:06.769 Well, I think Cronus, Vulcanus, and Zeus do. 460 00:29:09.150 --> 00:29:09.849 Yeah, okay. Okay. 461 00:29:15.700 --> 00:29:19.490 So if someone, it seems to me that there's a, 462 00:29:20.900 --> 00:29:23.220 with what you're saying, with what you've done with your book, 463 00:29:23.259 --> 00:29:27.930 there's a deeper understanding of someone and what's going on 464 00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:32.329 with their lives if you can put these in. And previously, 465 00:29:32.349 --> 00:29:36.470 I used to have the Planetary Pictures book. And previously, 466 00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:40.069 there'd be just like a phrase. And what you've done... 467 00:29:40.150 --> 00:29:42.859 is you've really really fleshed out every single thing to 468 00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:47.900 show like the the spectrum of possibilities of how each 469 00:29:47.940 --> 00:29:50.000 of these can play out I'm. 470 00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:53.420 Laughing because I remember the guy I said to an 471 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.940 Egyptian guy, he said, so what type of astrology do 472 00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:59.119 you study? He said, Uranian. I said, Uranian, those things, lovely. 473 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.420 Your dachshund will step on a landmine. Your head will 474 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.980 get bitten off by wild dogs. I said, well, it 475 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.900 was written between two wars. So it was explosions, fires, 476 00:30:07.940 --> 00:30:11.630 dead bodies. That's true. And I said, that can't mean 477 00:30:11.670 --> 00:30:14.549 the same thing in everybody's charts. It's got to mean 478 00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:17.470 something different and something on a personal level. And the 479 00:30:17.529 --> 00:30:21.009 easiest one to understand is Hades because Hades takes whatever 480 00:30:21.109 --> 00:30:25.680 it contacts and reduces it to its

lowest level. So 481 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.940 Mercury Hades would be someone who probably can't think too 482 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.569 well and uses a lot of foul language. Mercury Kronos 483 00:30:31.589 --> 00:30:33.609 would be someone who does not use foul language and 484 00:30:33.650 --> 00:30:37.109 has a very high intellect for ease in understanding things. 485 00:30:37.630 --> 00:30:40.549 So those are the two first and the easiest to understand. 486 00:30:42.950 --> 00:30:45.740 Kronos and Hades, yeah. Makes me think I should have 487 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.859 looked at my chart again. Because I have an intellect 488 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:56.670 and a foul mouth. So there we go. Now, different 489 00:30:56.690 --> 00:30:59.309 people came up with the names and the symbols are 490 00:30:59.369 --> 00:31:02.869 interesting because some of them actually look like they grew 491 00:31:03.109 --> 00:31:05.930 out of other planetary glyphs. 492 00:31:07.450 --> 00:31:11.059 Let me just say that Capito is a good example. 493 00:31:11.099 --> 00:31:15.740 It looks like Jupiter and Venus. And it's got to 494 00:31:15.779 --> 00:31:18.359 do with integration and it relates to art because what 495 00:31:18.380 --> 00:31:21.400 happens when everybody sees a patriotic picture or they sing 496 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:27.819 a song. So art and music Any practice that unifies 497 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:29.890 people and makes them feel like they belong is ruled 498 00:31:29.910 --> 00:31:34.440 by Capito. That's the connection to artwork. And Wayne Booher, 499 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.539 my late friend from New York, who was one of 500 00:31:36.579 --> 00:31:40.160 my teachers, he said that, you know, Venus and Jupiter 501 00:31:40.700 --> 00:31:43.299 are conjunct in zero Aries, and they're not conjunct again 502 00:31:43.579 --> 00:31:48.240 for like 200 and something years about the cycle of Capito. 503 00:31:48.299 --> 00:31:51.980 So it could be that these planets are echoes created 504 00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:54.920 by conjunctions of known planets at zero Aries. 505 00:31:56.579 --> 00:31:58.079 Now, that's a fascinating theory. 506 00:31:59.339 --> 00:32:04.440 And also, if you look at Apollon, it looks like 507 00:32:04.460 --> 00:32:07.880 Jupiter and Gemini. I don't know how that would connect. 508 00:32:08.019 --> 00:32:13.980 But I did just mention, I mean, Kronos, I have 509 00:32:14.019 --> 00:32:16.920 some examples in there that I still, you know, I 510 00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:19.619 had to do, you know, as Rob Hand used to 511 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.640 call it, high weirdness in astrology, like Some conjunct Kronos, 512 00:32:23.900 --> 00:32:26.839 Jeff Morrow, who's an actor, mostly in science fiction movies. 513 00:32:26.980 --> 00:32:28.279 And I know them all because I was a kid. 514 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.619 And his son is conjunct Kronos. What movie did he 515 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.079 star in? Kronos.

516 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:36.140 That's so funny. 517 00:32:36.380 --> 00:32:40.240 Some foreign planet shot a mechanism here to absorb electricity. 518 00:32:40.259 --> 00:32:43.369 They steal electricity and then they fly back. And I 519 00:32:43.529 --> 00:32:45.490 looked through his life and I was trying to find 520 00:32:45.869 --> 00:32:48.390 what else does it tell me about him? There's very little. 521 00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:51.440 He's not a well-known actor, so there's very little. But 522 00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:54.140 then he was also in This Island Earth. And I 523 00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:57.170 read there was a production problem. It was Rex Reason, 524 00:32:57.269 --> 00:32:59.309 who was also a star in the movie, had no 525 00:32:59.430 --> 00:33:03.670 acting skills. And he was the handsome hunk that they 526 00:33:03.690 --> 00:33:05.950 put in the movie to be the love interest. And 527 00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:12.630 Jeff Mara was the wise intellectual alien from the planet Metaluna. Anyway, 528 00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:17.339 he was mortified by Reason's lack of acting ability. So 529 00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:20.759 he had this Very high expectations. You could say he 530 00:33:20.779 --> 00:33:24.990 was elitist. He just had a very high expectation of 531 00:33:26.049 --> 00:33:30.289 talent that is needed to be an actor. And then 532 00:33:30.329 --> 00:33:34.410 there's the lady born with the sun conjunct Vulcanus, who 533 00:33:34.630 --> 00:33:38.589 at five years old, this pair was activated. She went 534 00:33:38.609 --> 00:33:40.650 to a circus and saw a circus strongman. So she 535 00:33:40.690 --> 00:33:44.839 decided to become a bodybuilder. And she adopted the name 536 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:45.579 of Vulcanus. 537 00:33:46.660 --> 00:33:48.420 Oh, that's great. 538 00:33:48.500 --> 00:33:50.200 And she, uh, I got a picture in the book 539 00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:54.549 and she, uh, won all these weightlifting championships, uh, went 540 00:33:54.609 --> 00:33:57.170 all around the country, tests of strength, you know, carnival 541 00:33:57.210 --> 00:33:57.690 type stuff. 542 00:34:02.099 --> 00:34:07.319 It's always so funny when astrology actually plays out literally 543 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:08.800 in the world. 544 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.860 Something else that I think most people have not read 545 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:15.130 Charles Jane's book because they were tough to read, but, um, 546 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.119 In his book, Unknown Planets, he said, well, here's how 547 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.539 I come up with these unknown planets. And these are 548 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.340 not Uranian planets, unknown planets. But there was one paragraph 549 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.449 in which he said that Pluto was discovered due to 550 00:34:29.510 --> 00:34:32.130 perturbations in the orbit of Neptune that cannot be explained 551 00:34:32.150 --> 00:34:34.289 by any of the known planets. He said, well, now 552 00:34:34.329 --> 00:34:37.570 there are perturbations in the orbit of Pluto that cannot 553 00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:40.070 be explained by any of the known planets. And he 554 00:34:40.269 --> 00:34:44.929 had a paragraph where a German astronomer, by using that method, 555 00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:48.670 he hyped He came up with a hypothetical planet, and 556 00:34:48.690 --> 00:34:51.789 he called it Hades, and it was about one-third of 557 00:34:51.889 --> 00:34:54.130 one degree from where the Uranian Hades is, and he 558 00:34:54.170 --> 00:34:59.730 did that from gravitational pulse. It couldn't be explained. Very 559 00:34:59.789 --> 00:35:02.590 few people have ever read that. I put that in 560 00:35:02.610 --> 00:35:03.289 the book also. 561 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.880 Now this is making me wonder about, I'm serious, the 562 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.059 production team and the artists behind the musical Hadestown. I'm 563 00:35:14.300 --> 00:35:18.300 very curious. what's going on in their charts with that. 564 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:23.760 Could be fascinating. Yeah, it's a retelling about going into 565 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:25.840 the underworld. Okay. 566 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.889 Well, Venus Hades is very powerful in Martin Scorsese's chart. 567 00:35:30.949 --> 00:35:34.389 Most of his movies were mafia movies. It's very strong 568 00:35:34.429 --> 00:35:36.690 in the horoscope of Christopher Lee, who was a sexy, 569 00:35:36.730 --> 00:35:42.610 sophisticated Dracula. And I can't think of the others, but 570 00:35:43.170 --> 00:35:43.710 that's Venus Hades. 571 00:35:46.969 --> 00:35:48.989 I'm sure there are many other ways that plays out. 572 00:35:51.250 --> 00:35:55.880 So Hades would also be like mafia behavior too, right? 573 00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:58.260 Mobster behavior could be. 574 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.880 I know a lot of people with, I mean, one woman, 575 00:36:01.900 --> 00:36:04.380 she's a perfectly respectable woman with her son conjunct Hades. 576 00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:06.400 And she said, my father was involved in all these 577 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.519 illegal activities. And I'm still a bit embarrassed about it. 578 00:36:10.099 --> 00:36:13.780 And another woman whose father died back before we had 579 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.639 VCRs in a pornographic theater watching a movie. He had 580 00:36:16.659 --> 00:36:19.780 a heart attack and died. Son, Hades. That was a big, 581 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.829 heavy stain on her life. And I'm sitting in the 582 00:36:24.949 --> 00:36:27.250 Trader Vic's in Abu Dhabi one night in the 90s 583 00:36:27.710 --> 00:36:30.019 in the summer. And the summer is so hot. It's 110, 584 00:36:30.019 --> 00:36:34.639 120 degrees with humidity. And all the families usually leave. 585 00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:38.059 And so the ladies of the night go to places 586 00:36:38.099 --> 00:36:41.300 where they usually don't frequent, like Trader Vic's. And two

587 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.719 came up, sat beside me. And I said, one's Russian, 588 00:36:44.780 --> 00:36:46.960 one's Lithuanian. I said, no, I'm not interested. I said, 589 00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:48.800 wait a minute. I'll buy you both a drink if 590 00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:50.679 you give me your birthdates. And they said, what? And 591 00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:53.230 I said, yeah, just order a drink. The one had 592 00:36:53.269 --> 00:36:56.010 the Venus conjunct Hades with an orb of one degree. 593 00:36:56.050 --> 00:36:58.110 The other had the Venus opposite Hades with an orb 594 00:36:58.130 --> 00:37:01.269 of one degree. Venus Hades is the form of the 595 00:37:01.289 --> 00:37:02.590 prostitution right out of the book. 596 00:37:03.429 --> 00:37:07.889 Uh-huh. That's utterly fascinating. 597 00:37:08.309 --> 00:37:10.070 And the lady who used to do my hair lived 598 00:37:10.130 --> 00:37:12.909 in St. Mark's Place. I was so busy with Wall Street. 599 00:37:13.170 --> 00:37:15.429 They were open till like midnight. And so I'd walk 600 00:37:15.510 --> 00:37:17.570 over there. You know, nobody's going to be there. So 601 00:37:17.670 --> 00:37:20.150 no waiting. And I'd sit and she'd cut my hair. 602 00:37:20.210 --> 00:37:24.469 We'd yak. I'd say, hey, that's a really clever outfit. Oh, well, this, oh, 603 00:37:24.510 --> 00:37:26.489 this I found. You see this scarf? I found it. 604 00:37:26.489 --> 00:37:28.360 It was in a trash can. And I took it 605 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.360 out and I cleaned it. She took, you know, Venus 606 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.860 discarded things and she beautified them. Venus Hades discarded clothing. 607 00:37:39.230 --> 00:37:42.989 That is fascinating. So there are many, many ways all 608 00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:44.650 of this can manifest. 609 00:37:45.309 --> 00:37:47.650 So most of this book was spent bringing that down. 610 00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:52.409 You know, we hate the Iranian astrology into a more 611 00:37:52.449 --> 00:37:54.050 of a, you know, what Liz Green did for Saturn. 612 00:37:54.429 --> 00:37:56.659 I was trying to do for the Iranian planets because 613 00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.179 all of my teachers, where I mentioned it to people 614 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.059 in Germany, they said, no, no, it's a, no, it's 615 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.519 just event driven. You know, if this, if this and 616 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.940 this happens, then this is the result. And And I 617 00:38:06.980 --> 00:38:09.659 remember I met Udo Rural, who was a senior member 618 00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:13.860 of the Hamburg School. And they said, somebody says, I 619 00:38:13.900 --> 00:38:16.179 want you to mention my name. And his eyes lit 620 00:38:16.219 --> 00:38:17.639 up and he shook my hand and said, you're a 621 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.119 good friend of the Iranian School of Astrology. Thank you 622 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.280 so much. And that really was one of the inspirations 623 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.179 to write the book, which is why I dedicated it 624 00:38:25.219 --> 00:38:28.119 to him as well as to other people. But, you know, 625 00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:30.800 they say the best way to learn basketball or chess, 626 00:38:30.820 --> 00:38:32.860 for that matter, is go to New York, go to 627 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.550 Greenwich Village, and you'll see on 6th Avenue a basketball court, 628 00:38:35.570 --> 00:38:37.489 and everybody hangs out there just to watch, because these 629 00:38:37.630 --> 00:38:39.730 young guys are so talented, that if you go into 630 00:38:39.769 --> 00:38:42.789 the park, there are all these people playing chess. Well, 631 00:38:42.809 --> 00:38:46.190 at that time, New York was, that's what it was 632 00:38:46.250 --> 00:38:49.769 like for Uranian astrology. I would meet Diana Rosenberg, Arlene Neimark, 633 00:38:51.429 --> 00:38:54.909 Lee Lehman, Luck New York, but there was also Faith McInerney, 634 00:38:54.929 --> 00:38:56.969 and we'd all get together in Yak, and Wayne Brewer 635 00:38:57.010 --> 00:38:59.280 was there, and Gary Christian came over from New Jersey, 636 00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:02.969 and we'd just sit around, and And Diana says, look 637 00:39:03.010 --> 00:39:05.409 at this chart. I said, yeah, it's got Cirrus. The 638 00:39:05.469 --> 00:39:08.429 asteroid Cirrus has to do with food. Cirrus Hades is 639 00:39:08.469 --> 00:39:11.949 junk food. And then Vera Epstein does a lecture and 640 00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:16.300 she shows the great chefs like Anthony Bourdain have Cirrus 641 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:20.820 Kronos equals Midheaven. So Hades is the junk side of food. 642 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.699 And the other side is Kronos Cirrus. So it even 643 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:32.460 works with asteroids. But I tried to. I tried to 644 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.480 bring it down to an Earth level rather than, you know, 645 00:39:35.699 --> 00:39:38.480 this happened and that happened 3,000 years ago and this 646 00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:40.809 empire fell apart. You know, most of us can't relate 647 00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:44.469 to that anymore. But I did want to say that 648 00:39:44.489 --> 00:39:49.420 there are two combinations coming next year. One is in May. 649 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:53.699 That is Uranus conjunct Admetus. Now, Uranus-Admetus is like the 650 00:39:53.739 --> 00:39:57.199 lightning-struck tower from the tarot deck. Of course, as I 651 00:39:57.219 --> 00:40:01.500 said in the book, this is what helped me. Saturn 652 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.599 is real estate. It's the surface of the Earth. Admetus 653 00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.039 is geology. It's what's below the Earth. And when I 654 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.050 was living in Houston, I was only there for eight months, 655 00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:10.119 I did the horoscopes of a lot of young girls, 656 00:40:10.340 --> 00:40:15.550 like Sun, Admetus, while their fathers

worked as geologists. Son, 657 00:40:15.610 --> 00:40:18.380 I meet us. My father's in geology. He bore down 658 00:40:18.409 --> 00:40:27.199 to the earth. And Saturn, on a personal level, is 659 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:32.880 what Dr. John Paracas used to say, there's the unconscious 660 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.619 and the subconscious. The subconscious is what you don't want 661 00:40:37.659 --> 00:40:39.449 to see. You know it's true about yourself, but you 662 00:40:39.469 --> 00:40:41.789 don't prefer not to talk about it. He said, that 663 00:40:41.949 --> 00:40:46.159 I decided is Saturn. But after you, like somebody once said, 664 00:40:46.179 --> 00:40:47.719 it's like, I don't want to see it. I don't 665 00:40:47.739 --> 00:40:50.559 want to see it. And it goes below the level 666 00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:54.780 of consciousness. That's Admetus. And so Uranus Hades is waking 667 00:40:54.820 --> 00:41:01.429 you up. It's like a lightning strike. Like I had Venus, Admetus, Uranus, 668 00:41:01.590 --> 00:41:03.510 and my girlfriend broke up with me because I wasn't 669 00:41:03.550 --> 00:41:07.690 sensitive enough to her. Venus, Admetus is being insensitive. Richard 670 00:41:07.730 --> 00:41:10.780 Nixon had Venus, Admetus equals Midheaven and Venus. The newsman, 671 00:41:10.820 --> 00:41:13.739 Sander Van Oker, said, the shallowness of this man frightens me. 672 00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:20.000 That's Ignis Admetis. And so they will be conjunct in 673 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:25.469 May of 2027. The last time they were conjunct was 1929, 1930. 674 00:41:25.469 --> 00:41:27.829 And it coincided with the stock market crash. We have 675 00:41:27.889 --> 00:41:30.389 only one example to go by. So I can't say 676 00:41:30.429 --> 00:41:33.010 to you the stock market is going to crash. But 677 00:41:33.409 --> 00:41:36.590 Uranus Admetis does rule earthquakes. And I guarantee you, Admetis, 678 00:41:36.809 --> 00:41:40.070 it's in the book. rules semiconductors, because it's the process 679 00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:44.929 of miniaturization. And when the media started transiting into Gemini, 680 00:41:44.949 --> 00:41:49.889 suddenly we all had cell phones because the rules nanotechnology, 681 00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:54.960 making integrated circuits, chips, all things of that matter. So 682 00:41:54.980 --> 00:41:58.380 I was thinking, what could disrupt the chip industry worldwide? 683 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.699 How about if you have an undersea earthquake and a 684 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:06.570 typhoon engulfs Taiwan? That fits in terms of weather and 685 00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:11.599 fits in terms of industry. will the stock market crash? Well, 686 00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:13.400 I don't think next year is a good year for 687 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.530 several reasons. I wrote a book called Planetary Economic Forecasting, 688 00:42:16.550 --> 00:42:19.510 and if you extend those six planetary cycles into next year, 689 00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:23.530 they go down, not up. And the third reason is 690 00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:28.550 we have a big planetary picture, which is Neptune, Apollon, 691 00:42:28.590 --> 00:42:33.480 and Venus, that was in the book as pretty serious economically. 692 00:42:33.539 --> 00:42:38.630 So I pulled up the book, Index of economic activity 693 00:42:39.289 --> 00:42:44.139 done by Ameritrust Bank in the 30s. Now this, it 694 00:42:44.300 --> 00:42:46.659 ended in 1988, but I have maintained it ever since. 695 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.260 And I wrote the book, Economic Forecasting, about it. And 696 00:42:50.300 --> 00:42:53.980 if you apply this three-planet formula, it does show significant 697 00:42:54.059 --> 00:42:56.659 disruptions in the economy. And that is exact next year. 698 00:42:57.510 --> 00:42:59.869 So you've got now one, two, three reasons, and plus 699 00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:01.449 that it's a year ending in a seven, which is 700 00:43:01.550 --> 00:43:06.510 usually difficult anyway. And Apollon, has a lot to do, 701 00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:08.269 as I said, with distribution. But if you look in 702 00:43:08.289 --> 00:43:11.909 the book, Jupiter-Apollon, it's currency in circulation. So it looks 703 00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.050 to me that the debt situation might get out of control. 704 00:43:15.110 --> 00:43:17.750 And in the past, what have they done? Canceled the 705 00:43:17.789 --> 00:43:21.429 currency and issued a new one? Or they've, you know, 706 00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:25.289 Nixon took us off the gold standard. Carter signed the 707 00:43:25.309 --> 00:43:29.519 Monetary Control Act, which enables the Fed to inflate to infinity. 708 00:43:30.340 --> 00:43:34.360 So these are pretty heavy. But Uranus and Metis, In 709 00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:38.030 personal charts, it's usually automobile accidents. You come to a 710 00:43:38.050 --> 00:43:41.309 very sudden stop. And it's got a lot to do 711 00:43:41.329 --> 00:43:44.010 with hard drive crashes. So if you see this activated 712 00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:46.110 in your chart, make sure your information is backed up. 713 00:43:48.369 --> 00:43:50.329 Hard drive crashes. That's pretty granular. 714 00:43:51.289 --> 00:43:51.489 Yeah. 715 00:43:52.269 --> 00:44:01.699 That's pretty granular. Wow. Okay. Well, what... So your book... 716 00:44:02.619 --> 00:44:05.679 it seems to me primarily speaks to someone who has, 717 00:44:06.409 --> 00:44:11.110 who's somewhat conversant at least in Uranian astrology, but perhaps 718 00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:15.130 it's going to get some people interested in the method. 719 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:18.969 I mean, I took a number of workshops and was 720 00:44:19.150 --> 00:44:22.949 absolutely intrigued and then just got waylaid by life, but 721 00:44:23.869 --> 00:44:26.159 it's such a different way of looking at things. And 722 00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:29.599 it shows, it's like it lights up the information that, 723 00:44:30.610 --> 00:44:32.949

in a way that crystallizes what it's about. 724 00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:39.110 Well, that's, I, you know, what I was taught in 725 00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:42.630 the books that I read, it was always, you've got 726 00:44:42.650 --> 00:44:44.329 this in your chart, so this is going to happen. 727 00:44:44.369 --> 00:44:45.969 And I would think, well, why, what is going on 728 00:44:46.010 --> 00:44:48.179 inside the person that creates that? And my Zen master 729 00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.559 would support that. He would say, he said, you know, 730 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:53.579 I can see, you know, he's, you know, the cartoons 731 00:44:53.619 --> 00:44:55.699 with the thoughts and the speech over the head of 732 00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.460 the cartoon. He said, that's when your energy is building up. 733 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.360 And if it's very bad energy with the day, that, 734 00:45:00.750 --> 00:45:03.030 is punctured and comes down on you. Is it God 735 00:45:03.070 --> 00:45:05.210 help you? Because me, as powerful as I am, I 736 00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:08.219 cannot help you. And he knew I could converse with 737 00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:12.880 him about Uranian astrology. And so this really didn't make 738 00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:18.840 any sense. It wasn't very helpful until you understand, until 739 00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:23.269 you personalize it, understand how a person would, the great 740 00:45:23.409 --> 00:45:25.730 Oswego fire, which is in the book, which was a 741 00:45:25.809 --> 00:45:29.630 dreadful fire out in the Midwest, started when Zeus was activated. 742 00:45:29.969 --> 00:45:32.769 And it was started by lightning strikes. That's, that's Zeus. 743 00:45:33.929 --> 00:45:35.750 And what does that mean on a personal basis? We 744 00:45:35.809 --> 00:45:39.139 had one guy come to the Institute and he said, uh, 745 00:45:39.699 --> 00:45:42.619 and he was, he, you know, head backing. He's very 746 00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:44.280 proud of himself. He's, I want to set the world 747 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.559 on fire. I want to set the world on fire. And, uh, 748 00:45:47.659 --> 00:45:49.699 in the course of getting to know him, I was 749 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.360 on a team. I was junior. I had to work 750 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.739 with him. What do you do? Urban. He says, well, 751 00:45:53.760 --> 00:46:00.690 I'm a commercial artist. And it turned out he had, uh, Zeus, Venus, Neptune, 752 00:46:00.949 --> 00:46:02.730 what did you do during the war? He said, I 753 00:46:02.769 --> 00:46:05.369 was a navigator on a bomber in Italy. I said, 754 00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:08.280 that means you flew missions against the Axis oil fields 755 00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:10.960 in Romania. He wanted to set the world on fire. 756 00:46:11.019 --> 00:46:13.940 He did. Crono Zeus, he was up in the air 757 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:18.860 dropping in an airplane that dropped bombs. But you see, 758 00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:20.820 the dropping of the bombs, I want to set the 759 00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:22.909 world on fire, and I'm a creative artist. 760 00:46:24.690 --> 00:46:34.190 All different aspects of the same influences. Absolutely fascinating. So 761 00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:41.300 I'm not seeing this being taught really widely at this point. 762 00:46:43.780 --> 00:46:46.639 Well, before she died, Arlene Nymark said, you know, they're 763 00:46:46.659 --> 00:46:51.179 not even having a uranium track at UAC. This was 764 00:46:51.500 --> 00:46:54.510 about 10 years ago or 12 years ago. It's been 765 00:46:54.530 --> 00:46:58.829 so long I don't remember. I said, yeah, that's really 766 00:46:58.849 --> 00:47:01.239 too bad and I was going to write this book 767 00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:03.579 and not write the book. But anybody I talked to, 768 00:47:04.059 --> 00:47:05.539 when I explained to them, they said, you got to 769 00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.260 write that down. You got to do that. And of course, 770 00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:10.960 the first chapters, the Capito, Hades, I have an extremely 771 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.760 strong Hades. I was born in Mafia-controlled northern New Jersey 772 00:47:14.780 --> 00:47:18.010 with Hades seven minutes from my fourth house cusp. And 773 00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.210 my father was a mayor and a power broker. And 774 00:47:20.230 --> 00:47:22.809 of course, we're Italian. And I had an uncle who 775 00:47:22.829 --> 00:47:26.650 was in the trash removal business. That's Hades. And, you know, 776 00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:28.429 my uncle's on the phone. He's like, be quiet. I 777 00:47:28.449 --> 00:47:32.130 got my lawyer. What? He said, what? He did what? 778 00:47:32.969 --> 00:47:34.590 I want to sue him. How much will it cost 779 00:47:34.610 --> 00:47:36.530 for me to sue him? And he said, I can 780 00:47:36.550 --> 00:47:40.280 have him shot for less than that. And my parents 781 00:47:40.340 --> 00:47:42.780 explained to me that, you know, certain things are illegal. 782 00:47:43.420 --> 00:47:49.480 And Tony's grocery store around the corner is a bookie parlor. 783 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.869 And I said, I didn't see any books. And they said, no, 784 00:47:52.010 --> 00:47:53.949 it's gambling. I said, well, why don't they bring it 785 00:47:53.989 --> 00:47:55.829 out in front? He said, because it's illegal. And they 786 00:47:55.849 --> 00:47:58.980 just told me there's a whole substrate. That's Haiti's. And 787 00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:00.500 I was sort of right in the middle of this 788 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.800 because you would, you know, pick up the paper and 789 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.179 somebody got shot or somebody got beaten up. And you 790 00:48:06.219 --> 00:48:11.489 knew the local godfather, his name was Guy. And so 791 00:48:11.570 --> 00:48:15.849 this was Hades on the icy. And I have a 792 00:48:15.889 --> 00:48:17.590 friend right here. I'm not going to point in any 793 00:48:17.639 -->

00:48:20.300 direction or say who it is, but I met her 794 00:48:20.340 --> 00:48:22.300 here 12 or 13 years ago. And after two or 795 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.539 three years of friendship, Hades is transiting over my seventh 796 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.579 house cusp. And she says, well, you know, I didn't 797 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.920 think we were going to become close friends. But I'll 798 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.340 tell you, I'm a retired madam. She used to run 799 00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.139 a brothel. Hades transiting my seventh house cusp. So when 800 00:48:36.179 --> 00:48:37.980 you see these things and you can't explain them by 801 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.300 any of the known planets, it's got to be something else. 802 00:48:45.949 --> 00:48:48.889 And if someone wants to learn this now, they just 803 00:48:48.929 --> 00:48:52.889 have to cast about, flail about. I remember there was 804 00:48:52.929 --> 00:48:57.570 a track And the New York City NCGR conferences used 805 00:48:57.610 --> 00:49:00.750 to have a, that's where I got into it. Used 806 00:49:00.769 --> 00:49:01.449 to have a track. 807 00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:04.369 All the Iranian astrologers were around at that time and 808 00:49:04.389 --> 00:49:04.949 they insisted. 809 00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:09.590 So people are pretty much on their own now if 810 00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:10.829 they want to find out about it. 811 00:49:13.150 --> 00:49:14.449 At the moment, I think so. 812 00:49:18.289 --> 00:49:21.409 So there's your book. you're not you don't really lecture 813 00:49:21.489 --> 00:49:24.409 on this though right or do you oh yeah well. 814 00:49:24.349 --> 00:49:29.360 I lecture for the Iranian group at Kepler associated with 815 00:49:29.389 --> 00:49:32.639 Kepler College and the Iranian special interest group of the 816 00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:37.099 NCGR okay but I stopped for a while because I 817 00:49:37.099 --> 00:49:39.969 just wanted to finish the book and the book I 818 00:49:39.989 --> 00:49:42.329 had stuff in books. I had stuff in file cabinets. 819 00:49:42.349 --> 00:49:44.250 I had handwritten notes. I had typewritten notes. I had 820 00:49:44.309 --> 00:49:52.139 old copies of, is it hamburger leaf? And stuff I 821 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.139 collected from anywhere and everywhere. And I pulled it all 822 00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.039 out and just started typing up notes and divided it 823 00:49:57.099 --> 00:49:59.260 into eight folders. And then I had to put it 824 00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:04.079 all together. And the biggest problem was eliminating duplicate. It 825 00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:06.039 just took a long time to do this because it 826 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:09.800 was just a heavy volume of material and As I said, 827 00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:11.059 when I got to the end of the book, I 828 00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:12.929 realized that the format at the beginning of the book 829 00:50:12.949 --> 00:50:14.469 was different. So I had

to go back and change 830 00:50:14.550 --> 00:50:25.989 all the chapters. And I moved to New York, Hades. 831 00:50:26.550 --> 00:50:29.119 I lived in a very old building, a brownstone, a 832 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.139 111 Waverly place that was built by a sea captain. 833 00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.280 I had a marble fireplace, a wood parquet floor, and 834 00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.929 a tin ceiling. And I lived across the street from 835 00:50:37.929 --> 00:50:40.280 112 where we were placed, where in the basement lived 836 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.679 a lesbian couple, one who worked as a prostitute. And 837 00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.039 on the third floor were two gay guys who dealt drugs. 838 00:50:47.099 --> 00:50:48.980 And the reason I know this is because the guy 839 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.760 who owned the building became a friend of mine. And 840 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.849 I said, how did you get this building? And he said, look, 841 00:50:56.309 --> 00:51:00.090 the guy who owned it, he looked like Ernest Hemingway. 842 00:51:00.550 --> 00:51:03.309 He had the white bushy beard, the chains around the neck, 843 00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:05.369 the pot belly, the white shirt, and he drove a 844 00:51:05.389 --> 00:51:10.369 gold Rolls Royce. Well, he wrote sort of a gambling newspaper, 845 00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:13.900 telling people what to bet on. But most of the 846 00:51:13.940 --> 00:51:16.099 profits went up his nose in the form of cocaine. 847 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:20.260 And it became so unstable that Jack loaned him money 848 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.139 and wound up owning the building. So that's how I know. 849 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:25.449 But that's Haiti. That's a Haiti's neighborhood. 850 00:51:27.969 --> 00:51:31.929 Anyone who's been there, it's still a Haiti's neighborhood. Yep. Yep. 851 00:51:33.650 --> 00:51:34.929 So where can people find your book? 852 00:51:36.690 --> 00:51:40.670 Well, I still have my old BillMeridian.com, but it became 853 00:51:40.769 --> 00:51:44.250 so big and filled it was easier to create another 854 00:51:44.289 --> 00:51:48.219 smaller one called BillMeridianAstrology.com. So if you go to either one, 855 00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.880 they should take you to publications. But I would go 856 00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:54.539 to BillMeridianAstrology.com, I think, to find it most directly. 857 00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:00.139 It's a very streamlined site in terms of the design. 858 00:52:02.449 --> 00:52:06.559 So people can find you there, Bill Meridian, astrology.com. And 859 00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:08.119 then you also have another site. 860 00:52:10.659 --> 00:52:13.300 Bill Meridian.com, which is the original old one that is 861 00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:17.079 written in Dreamweaver, which is such a difficult language that 862 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.900 nobody wants to work on it. So it's ancient. Yes. 863 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.360 But you also have Cycles Research, which is. 864

00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:29.199 Cyclesresearch.com is dedicated to the stock market, to the world 865 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:30.000 financial markets. 866 00:52:32.309 --> 00:52:35.840 So all your other books would be at Bill Meridian astrology.com 867 00:52:35.900 --> 00:52:40.059 and you have books on eclipses and planetary cycles. 868 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:45.380 And mundane astrology, planetary economic forecasting, two old issues of 869 00:52:45.460 --> 00:52:47.610 in search. And now I think I see a way 870 00:52:47.630 --> 00:52:50.769 to revive the other old copies of in search with AI. 871 00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:53.050 So I don't have to go through it again because 872 00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:56.510 that'll where you're, you know, Charles Jane was a very 873 00:52:56.550 --> 00:52:59.679 brilliant man who never discovered the modern miracle of punctuation 874 00:53:00.500 --> 00:53:03.389 and to try and, read his sentences was tough and 875 00:53:03.409 --> 00:53:06.489 I had to keep breaking them up. And, you know, 876 00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:11.190 these are original in searches that are printed, Mimeo, if 877 00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:14.610 you remember what Mimeo is, eight and a half by 878 00:53:14.610 --> 00:53:17.489 11 heavy sheets stapled together. And I found them at 879 00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:19.239 an old library in Phoenician, New York. 880 00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.579 That's how we, how we salvage this precious data that's 881 00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:28.579 floating around out there. 882 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:29.579 Yep. 883 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:30.039 Yep. 884 00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:31.119 Yep. Yep. 885 00:53:31.219 --> 00:53:31.360 Yep. 886 00:53:32.210 --> 00:53:35.489 Well, I thank you very much for taking the time 887 00:53:35.570 --> 00:53:41.280 to talk about your experiences and explain some about Uranian astrology. 888 00:53:41.469 --> 00:53:44.719 I am betting that I'm going to say probably 75% 889 00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.260 of the people watching this have no idea how it works. 890 00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.980 And this is an introduction to them. So that's really cool. 891 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.099 Maybe somebody will get interested. It is quite fun to 892 00:53:55.139 --> 00:53:56.659 play with the 90 degree dial. 893 00:53:57.639 --> 00:53:59.559 Well, that's it. It's when you first do it. I mean, 894 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.230 when you start astrology, somebody's got maybe Venus, square Jupiter, 895 00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:06.010 and opposite the sun. But in the radiant system, you 896 00:54:06.030 --> 00:54:09.989 put the pointer on a midpoint or a planet, and 897 00:54:10.030 --> 00:54:12.070 it equals so many different things. You have to integrate 898 00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:14.909 so many different factors. And I think that is very 899 00:54:14.969 --> 00:54:15.809 daunting at first. 900 00:54:18.289 --> 00:54:21.360 But it gives you so much data. It does. It 901 00:54:22.179 --> 00:54:25.030 does very much so. So I thank you very, very 902 00:54:25.070 --> 00:54:25.929 much for being here. 903 00:54:26.219 --> 00:54:28.190 I hope that. 904 00:54:28.050 --> 00:54:31.650 Your book sells well, maybe at UAC. Who knows what 905 00:54:31.690 --> 00:54:35.269 will happen with that? And everybody else out there, remember 906 00:54:35.309 --> 00:54:40.130 that my forecasts are at empowermentunlimited.net, where I have a 907 00:54:40.150 --> 00:54:42.130 mailing list. You can find out what I'm up to. 908 00:54:42.929 --> 00:54:46.969 And the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel. And also I have 909 00:54:47.030 --> 00:54:52.269 a Patreon, patreon.com slash Kathy Beal, with very... that features 910 00:54:52.670 --> 00:54:57.309 very short, as in 45 to 90 second, SASE forecasts 911 00:54:57.929 --> 00:55:01.030 for each day, in addition to everything else that's going on. 912 00:55:01.130 --> 00:55:05.449 So any parting words for our viewers, Bill? 913 00:55:07.289 --> 00:55:11.800 Yeah. The Uranian planets, to me at this point now, 914 00:55:11.860 --> 00:55:16.639 I'm faced with the same challenge I studied with David Cochran, 915 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.940 Harmonic Astrology, which he calls Vibrational Astrology, but also with 916 00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:22.500 Dorff Planet University with Alan Clay. Now I'm faced with 917 00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.599 the same thing all over again. Because I don't, it's 918 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.340 like back when I looked at the computerized charts of 919 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.139 all these symbols, now I see things, I've been in 920 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.909 astrology 54 years, and I'm looking at stuff I don't understand. And, 921 00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.699 you know, this last, give you a, last lunar eclipse 922 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:42.880 was on the sun, the country of Nepal, conjunct, Gangang, 923 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.300 which is an actual outer planet, a dwarf planet that 924 00:55:46.340 --> 00:55:49.150 rules the water gods and floods. 925 00:55:49.869 --> 00:55:50.349 Oh, geez. 926 00:55:51.090 --> 00:55:54.289 And the ruler puts Shijinkangang right on their sun, off 927 00:55:54.329 --> 00:55:58.210 by just a few minutes of arc. Thank you very much. 928 00:55:58.230 --> 00:55:59.309 And now I feel like I'm back where I was 929 00:55:59.309 --> 00:55:59.789 20 years ago. 930 00:56:01.969 --> 00:56:04.050 I know the feeling. And thank you, everybody. We have 931 00:56:04.110 --> 00:56:05.789 run out of time. Thanks again, Bill. 932 00:56:06.590 --> 00:56:11.219 Sure. Bye-bye. Thank you. 933 00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:27.550 Thank you.