บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ American Vanity (formerly Burn The Jukebox)

was like make sure getting this as close as possible to the thing, which is also like now we are excited to be going into this like new original chapter because it's us and we don't like it's ours, so we don't have to like adhere to very specific like standards. 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:19.360 Right, right. 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:28.959 You know, I talk about this with a lot of big name national acts pretty frequently, and that's the silver lining to the era of streaming. 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:34.879 Like back in the day, people used to have to live in one lane and one lane only. 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.519 If you were a punk band, you had to play punk music. 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:42.160 If you were a rock band, you played rock music, metal band, so on and so on, so on. 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:56.560 But now that everything is so algorithmically driven and you have things like Spotify and such, you don't really have guardrails as far as what your you know options are as far as songwriting goes. 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:08.720 Do you think getting those reps in with all the covers that you did online and the meticulous nature in which you critiqued yourself, do you think that better prepared you for this original music? 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:14.240 I mean, I think it makes you I think specifically going on to like different styles of music. 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:17.680 You're putting out those covers. 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:19.120 I don't know. 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:25.680 It's it's very, very it's very, very good thing in the aspect that I mean it's easier to get well routed, right? 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:33.199 Like you're not just playing one specific thing, like you're kind of opening your eyes to um different genres, different styles of playing. 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:43.759 And I think overall that kind of led us into this tunnel vision of like, okay, this is the style of music we want to create, uh what originals we want to put out, what messages we want to get behind them. 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.519 Like it all helps for sure. 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:46.399 Yeah, I agree. 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:51.920 Like learning like other songs, like you get like different vibes. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:56.560 So like I really enjoy like as a drummer, I enjoy like playing different vibes. 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:10.720 Like if like I'll I'll hit like an RB kick, or like I'll hit like a metal vibe, and then like I feel like I'll learn something, like I'll learn a song, and like, oh, I learned that, so let me try to incorporate it into my playing as we progress. 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:14.240 So I think on the albums I've done that. 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.600 So, how does having dual vocalists shape that songwriting? 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:32.720 So um having dual vocalists, it makes it so interesting because we love to like do duets and go back and forth, like you do a verse, we both do the chorus, then I do a verse, and like basically that whole thing. 00:08:32.879 --> 00:09:05.519 I know I've I believe I've said this before, but obviously we're not Lincoln Park, but we like to take elements from like their kind of vibe, like we love how like back and forth it is, and it makes it like super diverse, and I think it keeps people interested for sure, because it's like, okay, once you get to like through the first verse and the first chorus, then you're like waiting for the second chorus, but it ends up being a different singer, and I think that kind of like adds a little bit more shock value and keeps everybody like hooked. 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:25.759 So it's definitely it's different, and we like doing all the harmonies, which is also super fun when you have multiple vocalists because you could just lay down like different kinds of voices and like different um people with different ranges, and it's really it makes it like it makes the project a lot more like in-depth. 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:26.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:09:27.759 --> 00:10:03.840 It's like it also the way I kind of see it, like I guess I'm a more like I'm like a really like technical focused person on like I don't know, intervals and stuff and like uh vocal ranges, but like the way I see I mean it takes so like I mean I have lower a lower kind of like tenor slash like baritone voice, and Virginia obviously is a higher, like um I don't know, all tone, maybe a little bit higher than all tone, but it takes us from being put into this certain uh in this specific box of what notes we're able to sing, what style we're able to sing, how much grit we have behind our voice. 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:33.039 And it takes that and expands because there's there's a lot of stuff like RRF unseing a lot of the lower stuff, and then she takes over at the higher level some of the grittier stuff, and it makes a lot more pause, you know, and I think it also like with the lyric the lyrics contributing to like it's like the better way to storytell, you know, because we're not just telling a story one side, we have two people, two different stories. 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.600 That's that's a good way of looking at it. 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:48.559 You know, since you're the newest member of the band, how has the dynamic changed from the moment you joined until now, given all of those things? 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:55.279 I mean, when I first auditioned for the Ventilague, going back like a year ago, like so much has changed. 00:10:55.360 --> 00:11:05.120 You know, I got into it, um, and it was kind of not always changing, but as soon as I got in, it was like hit the ground running. 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:21.440 Like we kind of knew what was in the future, and I mean all of us just worked really well together, so we just hit the ground running, and like the main priority was just writing, writing, writing, and figuring out the new sound that we wanted to get down. 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:29.279 Like I feel like I want to give like a more in-depth

answer, but it was to me, it's all clouded by as soon as I got in the band. 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:41.679 We were touring that whole summer, but we were also like writing as much as we could, and that's kind of all I really focused on, I think, as a whole. 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:51.840 Yeah, sometimes those repetitions in just playing with somebody, your your sound kind of develops organically, and uh yeah, it it sounds like that's where things are at. 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.000 Now, how do you feel the sound itself has evolved? 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:05.759 Do you think you're still kind of a wide array of different styles, or do you guys feel you've honed down your focus a little bit more, specifically with this upcoming album? 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:10.080 I think we've definitely honed down our focus a little bit more. 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:20.080 So before we had like we had a lot of different stuff going on, and I'd say now in this new direction, it's definitely alt-rock centered. 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.080 It's heavier than what we've done. 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:23.759 Not too heavy, but heavier. 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.080 And we really, we really love it. 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:27.919 We think it's really fun to play. 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:34.720 Not to like group it like crazy, but that centered like alt-rock, alternative rock, alternative music. 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.919 I mean it's kind of like a combination of all of our influences, yeah, for sure. 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:46.240 And like it was just like back to what you're saying, like it wasn't like it kind of happened organically too. 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:54.000 Like the music that we listen to and the styles that we play in it kind of all blended together to get this all round sound. 00:12:54.559 --> 00:13:05.519 Like you're taking all into the spectrum, like the really, really happy music that we listen to, and the more mellow just like collided, if you will. 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:13.600 So, who are some of the artists that you subconsciously find in the DNA of this current iteration of the band? 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:17.519 Such it's such like a so much that I can think of. 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.960 The top of my head, probably definitely paramour. 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:28.480 Um paramour all-time low, that kind of vibe for sure. 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:29.600 I would go with those two. 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:36.159 I know earlier I said like some Lincoln Park E elements with like the dual vocalist type thing. 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.360 And that's that's what I got for me. 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:46.480 I mean, I was gonna say I put tidal fight up there, some flesh water up there. 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.879 If you know fleshwater, man, if you don't, you're missing out. 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.679 You're turning people on to flesh water right now. 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.120 Yeah, some uh beauty school dropout that we discovered. 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:10.799 Yeah, I mean there's a lot that like as I come back to what I said before, like there's there's influences where I take stylistically, but like I like as you guys said, like I think as a band sidewalk. 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:18.720 I I can't think of another one that I couldn't I I'm sure there's plenty, but you better much water. 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:30.080 Well, I mean, you guys just finished working with Matt Squire, or at least you're working with Matt Squire, and he produced Panic at the Disco, All-Time Low, Ariana Grande. 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:34.080 He's like got a pretty wide catalog himself. 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:38.960 So, what did he challenge you guys to do differently in the studio that you weren't doing before? 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.000 I think back to the repetition side. 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:47.200 You know, like Matt is crazy, insanely talented. 00:14:47.279 --> 00:15:01.200 So and being with that, like that level of producer I don't know, there were so many more uh repetitions and recording states involved than I could have like ever imagined, but it all obviously worked out to benefit us. 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:10.159 So that was a challenge and writing well in the studio, like we were still doing that, we're still writing, and kind of just let us do our thing for the mesh part. 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:15.200 Personally, I loved having um like his outside opinion. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.559 Like, hey, this is great, why don't you try this also? 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.600 I mean, her his ideas are incredible. 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:25.759 He's so nice, he's so nice. 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:27.120 We were there for six weeks. 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:38.159 It was definitely it was such a fun experience, and I've never really had that kind of like experience in a studio before where it was just like it was crazy. 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:48.799 We were like so much like behind the scenes footage on my phone of like us and Matt Squire just doing absolutely ridiculous things. 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:50.399 Like amazing. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:51.360 It was amazing. 00:15:51.600 --> 00:16:04.240 Yeah, I mean, I was about to say, like, it was so like obviously, like, when we went in, it was like very like polished style-wise, like, because like okay, we're gonna do this, this, this, this, but also like it was very just like fun. 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.559 Yeah, the first two days we were like just figuring out a game that I don't want. 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:09.600 Yeah, basically. 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:19.519 Like, I I really like the first two days, like obviously I wasn't like, oh my god, it's I'm shaking, but like I was like, okay, this is gonna be like we're working with you know like a very awesome break. 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.440 Like just by the end, it was just like Yeah. 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:29.039 He brought out the uh Panic at the Distel guitar that they used, like on the first album.

00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:36.639 Yeah, we recorded a little bit of Ryan off and yeah, they used to be also throw out there. 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:50.559 Like a bit uh another big thing too was we went into the studio with uh whether they were like full drafted demos or just bits and pieces, like we went into the studio with a ton of demos and a ton of stuff. 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:53.200 So that was a big thing too. 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:54.559 Yeah, you're writing more and more. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:17:00.159 Yeah, because we're starting was like cracking down on really what what we wanted to push. 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:00.559 Yeah. 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.799 And I mean a lot of the stuff we brought into the studio and we changed to something totally different. 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:13.039 Like Wi-Fi is one of those examples, and then the song you have coming out, Boys in your cup, those went through a lot of work as a whole. 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:13.519 Yeah. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:19.119 I was gonna ask that because sometimes that happens when you go into a studio and you have a ton of demos. 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:24.559 Sometimes two ideas become one or two songs get married into one song. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:29.759 Was there a moment where he pushed a song further than what you guys had expected? 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:30.880 Yeah, after that. 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:32.640 There's a few on there. 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.160 I don't know if you guys know me. 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.079 He's he was awesome to work with. 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:37.200 He was just such a good person. 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:40.640 There was like a it was so cool. 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:46.960 So like some of the stuff, like to answer like the question specifically, song's not out yet. 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:51.039 We have one song in the record, like that. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:53.759 Uh Matt came in with a riff, right? 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:59.920 And we we were like, okay, we're listening to this uh this riff in the bandhouse, we're like, what can we turn this into? 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.839 And at the same time we we were working on it, Matt was co-writing with us. 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:10.079 That completely I don't know if we want to say the name, but that completely took a turn from what I expected. 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:19.759 I also feel like there's songs that like we went from it was just like a demo, like obviously everything gets recorded and like we were like, okay, yeah, that's cool. 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:29.519 But like you never like we we didn't email, like we had as Luke said, like there were so many demos that we had that's like, yeah, I think we should do this one, you know. 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:40.720 And I remember like there's times where we were like, okay, you know, we'll take this song that's like not you know 100%, and like we just needle on that, and then it's something that's a lot. 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:49.839

I was gonna say there's also like like uh like remembering the bridge in Lifeline was not there. 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:56.640 And I I think it I think the bridge from Lifeline came from one of the other demos that we had. 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.680 There's a lot of material to work with. 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:04.079 It's like there was stuff that wasn't there one day and the next day it was all flushed out. 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:18.240 I remember listening back to the chorus trying to figure out a lead for it, and that's just like thinking in his head, and the chorus comes up and he's like, he's like just how in the valley, and then everyone was like, Oh my god. 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:37.519 Yeah, I was about to say, like, like me, could be times like in in like Cupid Night where like you you just take a bike, and we're all just sitting on a desk and just like and then like there's that, and then like a few days later, they're like whatever guitar's been ready, and then like they'll play back mini-green value, and then and then look later, you know. 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:40.480 Yeah, there's a lot of like school. 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:52.400 We like to call Matt like the Pro Tools wizard, because I've never seen anybody be able to like work that software like like that. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:53.599 Like that was crazy. 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:55.359 Like, it was just insane. 00:19:55.599 --> 00:20:12.000 I remember like honestly, I'm not uh a computer producer by any, but like I I I like to do my recording stuff, and I remember like just sitting behind them and he's just honestly, and I'm like, how are you like there's just stuff that's like is insane. 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:17.599 So you guys have described this album as being more deliberate, sharper, and very hook-driven. 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:22.720 What changed in your writing process to push that stylistically forward? 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:33.440 Like when we were writing this album, we started listening to like different music, and I definitely think that had an effect on how we were writing and like what we were writing. 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:48.799 And as for like the process goes, we would like go into Carter's basement for band practice, and we just sat and we were like, okay, we need to get five ideas for five new songs today before we leave. 00:20:48.960 --> 00:21:03.920 And that's what we did for probably a good two months until we had a bunch of demos, and then we eventually like and then we eventually brought them into the studio, and then we narrowed them down to the 10. 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:18.319 And to like kind of piggyback through the first thing, like you said, sharper and more hook-driven, like specifically, like like the audible hooks, like writing a song, besides from like the whole music video aspect when you could throw in visual hooks, right? 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:40.559 Like that was a really big thing that like when I was writing music on my own, like

I never had anything out, but like it changed so much because kind of just sitting down writing with these guys, writing with Virginia, so lyrics, like there was kind of the thought how do we make people connect with this in a way that I can't think of right now. 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:48.400 Or like, I mean, it just how many ways could somebody connect with this by this one hook or this one phrase in the song? 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:54.400 It's kinda it's kinda kinda always in the back of the head like how can I make somebody connect with this target song? 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:01.359 Yeah, yeah, and what's funny is we're we're an instant gratification world now because Because of social media. 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:11.920 And you know, I've talked to people in the music business back in the day, it was like you have to get to that hook within the first 45 seconds to a minute of the song. 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:17.599 And now songs are getting shorter and shorter and shorter because of social media. 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:21.599 So now you have to get to that hook within the first 20, 30 seconds. 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.279 Like, do you guys feel that pressure whenever you're writing songs? 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:28.160 Um, yeah, a little bit. 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:28.880 Sometimes. 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:39.759 So it's like you want to make sure, like, when you're writing the song, yes, like there's something that almost immediately needs to like catch somebody's attention. 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:41.759 And it's gotta be catchy. 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:52.240 And it's like, it's almost like sometimes when I think about like writing, I think about like, how can somebody use this in a TikTok? 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.480 Like, how can I turn this song into a TikTok trend? 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:58.640 And if it was a TikTok trend, what would it be? 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:04.160 And that's kind of the mindset I think I go into sometimes, like, especially when doing like lyrics and stuff. 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:11.759 It's like, okay, how can I connect with people as fast as possible and like make it as like hooky as it can be? 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:13.680 And there's no shame in that. 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:22.559 Like old schoolers, like old heads will be like, man, that's that's like homogenizing the artistic process if you're thinking about things like that. 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.279 But the people that'll tell you that have never tasted success a day in their lives, you know? 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:31.920 Like you have to you have to think about things like that to a certain extent, right? 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:39.440 I was gonna say, like, as much as we try and think of like tailoring the music a certain way, we're also trying to say ourselves. 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:44.079 Like approval addiction, like that is huge, like at all-time highs. 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:48.720 Like I it would go, I would say, hand in hand with the instant

gratification. 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:49.359 Yeah. 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:58.960 People they're speaking out others' opinions and trying to make people happy by people pleasing or writing your music for a specific group of people that'll say good things about it. 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:13.359 But as much as we were thinking about tailoring our music to a specific group of people and writing hooks this way, at the same time in the back of our heads, you're like, how can we still keep this unique and keep ourselves in this music? 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:23.440 Because I think, at least to me, the biggest thing about this record was staying ourselves and keeping our style and whatever kind of flowed naturally inside. 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:30.160 So, with that said, did you guys cut songs that maybe would have made the old version of the band? 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:31.599 I wouldn't say the old version. 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:41.839 I think the other thing that we had in a similar style that we were already writing it for the album, but because it's like a you know, it's like a this discrete note, it's cool. 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.680 Yeah, it's just like nice rippage and stuff like that, good melody. 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:51.599 We do like simplistic stuff, but it's also has technical elements to it and the way they match together. 00:24:51.920 --> 00:25:01.599 I think as far as cutting, I think if I like I I listen back to the demos sometimes, I would say in the complete opposite, like some of the demos are too heavy, you know? 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.079 Like we had a couple and drop C. 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.319 So a full step and then in C, right? 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:10.400 So that's my favorite. 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:11.039 I love doing stuff. 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.079 Yeah, I was just gonna say you're getting your Atreyu on with that, man. 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:32.559 Yeah, like a different side of the spectrum where we would probably have to be if we used all the demos, we'd have to be a band with like seven strings, eight strings that might you know, I'd have to have start using 13 to 57s on my uh wouldn't be able to use my autumn jazz master anymore. 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.880 No, honestly, I think like, yeah. 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:52.319 Like there's it's just like what's not on the album, it's just like you know, it's either too heavy or like it's not like the perfect style that we wanted there, or it's it would just yeah, these ones that we picked just wouldn't do you think the band could evolve into some of those heavier songs? 00:25:53.119 --> 00:26:04.160 Yeah, I think there's always potential to like I definitely don't think we're gonna be like Screamo in three years, but you know, I'm gonna get really good at blasphemy. 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.440 Like that's like 280 Bpm blackies. 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:14.000 I don't know. 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:27.039 Like I feel like we're at this like happy medium where

we're like we're very like as of right now, we're I don't want to speak as a whole, but I I'm gonna we're pretty happy like with the sound that we have now. 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:43.039 And if anything evolves, I think it'll be like slower because at the end of the day, Carter's an insanely technical drummer, Virginia is an insanely technical bass player, Luke's an insanely technical guitarist, and we're trying to keep those elements in it and not kind of push it too fast with a something. 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:51.680 Again, like not to be repetitious, you have to evolve organically, or else you stop being authentic, too. 00:26:51.839 --> 00:27:00.880 And there's also the live element of the show as well, you know, of your your material and kind of going into live performance. 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:08.079 Do you guys ever feel like you're playing a character on stage or are you always authentically yourself? 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:22.720 Honestly, you should uh like I wish we should really start filming or like recording our entire performances because recently I've noticed like our sense of humor on stage is I would say it's very authentic. 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:29.680 I've heard some of the best jokes I think I've ever heard like come from like Luke and Luke. 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.200 It's fantastic. 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:42.480 No, honestly, like I think on stage is like more of like okay, this is my time to like because like I have a tendency to just like just go insane. 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.559 Not like, but I'll just like just like throwing snakes around. 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:48.799 Like I think it's just like live. 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:50.880 We just like have God do us. 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:52.799 Yeah, we choked in stuff. 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:59.839 Yeah, I was gonna say, like, at the same time, like we still also keep that like professionalism, like it's an art, right? 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:01.279 Like live music is an art. 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:06.240 You have to keep that sort of artistic, those artistic values in it, you know what I mean? 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:12.240 But like, yeah, we just kind of like we say this all like we're just having so much fun. 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:16.720 Like, I would have just as much fun if they stuck me behind a curtain, me and Luke behind a curtain. 00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:17.920 We'd still be doing the same thing. 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.079 I'd still be jumping up and down and still be bullshitting with him on the side. 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:23.440 Hell yes. 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:28.559 Yeah, I think without being ourselves, it wouldn't be as fun as it as it. 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.079 Yes, yes, I love hearing that. 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:47.200 I gotta I gotta give you guys some props because I mean it is no secret that you're all young, like you're all incredibly young, and you've experienced a lot of exposure in a short amount of time thanks to social media, and um, you're talented. 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:56.960 Like, I I I tell my friends all the time, you know, a bunch of old dudes that gather and talk about the good old days of playing playing the metal core and all that stuff. 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:06.319 I'm like, you know, younger musicians now are way more talented than we were when we were the same age as you guys. 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:14.880 What do you think it is that has enabled you to be so refined with your artwork at the ages that you guys are at? 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.599 Most of us started when we were like, no, not most, all of us started when like playing when we were really young. 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.079 So I know for me, I started playing bass when I was 10 years old. 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.960 I am I'm 18 now, so that's eight years for me. 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.400 Carter, I would definitely think started the youngest. 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.720 You know, uh yeah, kind of go, but whatever. 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.559 My dad was a drummer, so like drums are always around. 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:47.680 And then I think like my grandmother's someone bought me a drum kit for my first birthday, and then that was really tight. 00:29:47.759 --> 00:30:04.160 And then actually the kit that's been in this video the entire time, that green drum kit was my first actual drum kit, and I got that at stage five, and then yeah, I I started like truly playing with you all, uh like I was playing full songs and everything, so like five and I'm 19 now. 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:16.160 So I think like specifically, like to answer this question specifically, I would just say if you look at a I don't know, uh 2000 Jeep Cherokee, right? 00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:26.799 And then you look at a 2026 Jeep Cherokee, so much evolution has evolved, so much stuff has become more accessible, like whether that's lessons or virtual learning, YouTube. 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:27.920 Agreed. 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.759 The imprints get easier to play with. 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:34.240 You get fractals and quad cortexes and different books. 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.119 Like there's just so much out there, you know? 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.200 So it there's just so much you can get a hold of. 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.079 It makes the process easier, more enjoyable to it. 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.799 That's a that's a really good point, a really good call out. 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:55.119 I just didn't want to be the one to call it out because I don't want to be the old guy saying, well, they have much better tools than we had when we were younger, you know. 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.759 But I was gonna ask if if anybody's parents were were musicians. 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.400 Carters for sure. 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:03.519 Me too. 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:04.400 Virginia? 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.480 Okay, what did your parents really? 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.480 So did it have an did that

have an influence on all of you guys? 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.279 Well, my parents, they were in a band together. 00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:21.440 So I grew up around it, and like when I was like six, I would be like at their band practice, and I was like, I wanna do that. 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.000 I would say you're just not even should I I don't know. 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.680 Should I point out the uh elephant in our house? 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.359 Her parents were the three of her parents were in a band together at one point. 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:34.799 No kidding. 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:49.599 But I mean I think a big thing was just one of those that was like a short period of time, like I don't know, my dad started playing uh guitar at like 15, and then I don't know when your father started playing a long time. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.680 Like same same as me on Aaron. 00:31:52.799 --> 00:32:06.000 I think it definitely probably I I I definitely think I don't know about you guys, but I like I was I was a kid, like I don't know, I have a picture when I was four or five years old of my dad Randy Rhodes Jackson V around my neck. 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:11.920 And he posted on Facebook in 2010 saying like he's gonna play guitar when he's old. 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:17.359 And um nine years old who wanted to be like my dad, I said, Hey dad, play guitar. 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.680 Yeah, you know, take some aspects of your parents, and that's cool. 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:32.480 I I think it's great that all of our parents played, you know, because yeah, I think part of me is like damn man, like if our parents didn't have such musical influences on us, we might not be where we are. 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:33.200 Yeah. 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.279 I'd probably be raised in BMX or something. 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.920 I would be like a Disney World travel agent. 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.359 When can fans expect the record to drop in totality? 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.079 Or are you just gonna trickle out all the songs and then that's that's that? 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:53.519 So like we we have uh as of now, specifically, we have a si six-week in-between release schedule. 00:32:53.599 --> 00:33:20.240 So we have Lifeline that dropped almost three weeks ago, and then March 6th, today poison dropping, and then six weeks after that, we have another single dropping, and we have two more, and then from there it's kind of either the same thing or we drop the record, and it's uh I know for sure the um in the summertime is when the full vinyl version of the record comes out. 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.759 Oh yeah, got it to we're gonna be torn on that album. 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:24.640 That'll be so cool. 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:31.440 That's where I was going next, is like can like how aggressive are you guys gonna get with the tour cycle this summer? 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:33.680 We're hoping to be very busy. 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.799 I was playing every day. 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.599 You know, we're playing, we're playing every weekend of the summer. 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:41.519 Like stuff's just adding, adding up. 00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.039 Yeah, I think it'll keep progressing. 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.680 Yeah, there's still a few more months before somewhere. 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.559 We got a bunch of time, and we still already have a lot of days. 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:49.200 Yeah, building. 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:50.640 And they're pretty spread out right now. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:53.200 Just be a talk. 00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:02.000 But yeah, but like the summer, like we should, even if it's all not released on its own, the vinyl will most likely be out, it will be out. 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.400 Um, and then we'll be touring off of that record. 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.199 So even if you haven't heard it on Spotify, you come to a concert, you're gonna hear one of those songs you've never heard before. 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.199 Yes, amazing, amazing. 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:16.159 Now, you guys don't have to reveal this, you can just answer this with a yes or no. 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:25.199 But are are there bigger plans at hand that you're not able to share yet as far as some of your touring plans? 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.760 Yeah, I'm gonna say yes right off the bat. 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:28.960 Okay. 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.719 I can kind of read between the lines. 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.599 I can I can read between the lines, and everybody loves to know a little bit of a good secret, right? 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.480 So one year from now, let's just kind of manifest some things. 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.159 Where do you see the project one year from now? 00:34:49.440 --> 00:35:14.960 Would love to be, I think Okay, I don't want to speak for everybody, but I think we would love to be definitely on to the next album, new project, new songs, still obviously playing this album that's coming out now, but we'd like to, you know, be working on more ideas, definitely obviously lining up summer tour dates, and that's where I would like to be. 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:29.360 And I would like definitely to um have like a good social media like standing, specifically tour still touring on that record, and then still writing for the next EP or record, whatever happened. 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.760 Yeah, just getting more experiences, yeah. 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:38.239 I already have playing some cool festivals and cool cool bands, some cool uh West Coast shows, get out on a kill the court, that'd be cool. 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:39.440 It is an outbreak. 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.719 This one I'm great. 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:41.840 It's giving us things. 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:47.760 Yeah, I think I think just like taking what we've already had and just keep running with like this. 00:35:48.719 --> 00:36:06.960 So, my closing

question that I ask everybody that does the show, you guys all one at a time, I want to hear an answer from every single one of you through your experience with American vanity and everything that you are looking forward to manifesting, so on and so on. 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.400 What's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today through your eyes? 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.000 I'm such a music-focused person. 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:25.840 So I think specifically to make the world a better place, in my eyes, music is a is a universal language. 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:33.760 I think we just have to keep pushing out music, different styles of music to make people feel different things, you know. 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.440 Music I mean everybody kind of relates to it. 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:44.400 I think to kind of make the world a better place, we just need to get on this cycle where new music's coming out. 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.480 There's new stuff to be discovered, you know. 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.960 I guess that's an odd answer, but music is such an important thing. 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.199 So I think keeping music at the forefront. 00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:14.719 I would say um to make like the world a better place, I think everybody should promote being themselves and not like conforming to what you're supposed to be or like how you're supposed to act or what you're supposed to do or listen to or whatever. 00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:21.840 Like I think it would be like the world would be a better place if like you weren't everybody wasn't constantly looking for like approval. 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.000 Like you don't need to be liked by everybody, and I think just keep that in mind. 00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.679 I think it's important to not stop yourself from being successful. 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:36.159 Listen to the music you want, perform the music you want, write the music off, be yourself, be a better person. 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.920 Now there's always room for improvement in every aspect of life. 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:40.159 Yeah. 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:54.719 I tell you what, like a couple of weeks ago, I got on one of those late night diatribes where I was just sitting doom scrolling on my phone, and you know, I got so sick of you know reading about socio-political divide and everything ugly that's going on in the world right now. 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:01.519 And I posted some long diatribe that kind of summed up everything that you guys were just saying. 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:17.519 It's like if more people shared joy and the things that brought them happiness in the world instead of all the negativity, there would be a lot less conflict and a lot less, you know, bad. 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:19.760 So so awesome. 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:26.000 Well, why don't you guys tell anybody that's watching or listening to this where they can find you guys online? 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:39.199 If you are watching or listening to this, you can find American Vanity at this is American Vanity on all social medias: Instagram, TikTok, whatever you have, we're on it. 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:48.000 And then if you want to listen to our original songs, make sure you check them out on Spotify and also all other streaming platforms, and there will be more to come shortly. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:53.119 Awesome! Guys, Virginia, Luke, Luke, Carter. 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.039 Thank you guys for tuning the show. 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.519 The world's a much better place with you guys in it, and everybody, please go follow American Vanity. 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:01.039 March 6th. 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.719 March! March 6th, everybody. 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:06.480 Thank you for having. 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:11.679 Once again, I'd like to thank American Vanity for doing the podcast. 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:13.440 That was a fun conversation. 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.079 They have a bright future ahead of them. 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.159 Make sure you are following them on all social media platforms. 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:21.199 You heard it. 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:28.639 They're gonna be trickling songs out once every six weeks with the next song dropping on March 6th. 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.079 Make sure you check it out. 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:39.199 While you are being so generous with the follows, likes, and what have you, make sure you are following at Caught on the Mic on all social media platforms. 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.719 Visit me www.cotonthemic.com. 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:55.599 Please subscribe to my YouTube channel and shoot me an email at cotonhe at gmail.com for all focusing inquiries and anything else you might want to learn about the show. 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.480 This has been Caught on the Mic with Michael Clark. 00:39:58.639 --> 00:39:59.679 I'm Michael Clark. 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:01.920 Until next time, thank you.