บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Make choices from a place without ego to completely reinvent yourself - Camilla Sacre-Dallerup

point when I asked myself, who am I, where I was like, I don't know who I am, who am, I don't know. 00:05:11.788 --> 00:05:13.379 I re I, I knew one thing. 00:05:13.379 --> 00:05:23.009 And that was that I really wanted to get to a point where I could say whoever and I could say I'm content And on a mission to find out what that looked like to wake up in the morning and think. 00:05:24.024 --> 00:05:24.624 I'm okay. 00:05:24.624 --> 00:05:25.434 I'm content. 00:05:25.944 --> 00:05:35.874 I'm not because of the amount of trophies that I've won, or my name is in the paper on the TV, but just because I'm true to me, I'm my authentic self. 00:05:36.184 --> 00:05:36.603 Wow. 00:05:36.814 --> 00:05:38.494 What a journey you've had as well. 00:05:38.543 --> 00:05:42.920 And you talk about the ego and how difficult it was to. 00:05:43.875 --> 00:05:45.613 To separate yourself from it. 00:05:45.625 --> 00:05:47.375 And actually discover who you truly are. 00:05:49.226 --> 00:05:53.560 Can I just add to that actually, because when you say it like that, I think this is important for people to hear. 00:05:54.100 --> 00:06:02.319 Do you know this often people around, you don't know what to do with that when you leave something that you've been so that's your identity. 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:03.459 They know us. 00:06:03.505 --> 00:06:08.086 Matt, the lawyer, Camilla, the dancer, Sam, the accountant, like that, good with that. 00:06:08.297 --> 00:06:10.096 Let's not rock the boat. 00:06:10.103 --> 00:06:14.255 So when you then say to your friends I really think I'm just gonna I need to leave this. 00:06:14.255 --> 00:06:16.086 It's not for me that like, that's crazy. 00:06:16.086 --> 00:06:17.031 Like what are you doing? 00:06:17.045 --> 00:06:19.394 What how do we like refer to that confused? 00:06:20.384 --> 00:06:22.533 So you have that too, and then you really got to go. 00:06:22.533 --> 00:06:22.682 Yeah. 00:06:22.713 --> 00:06:23.793 But I need to do this for me. 00:06:24.129 --> 00:06:26.675 So how do you know who you truly are? 00:06:27.185 --> 00:06:33.927 Like, cause, cause when you were at, on strictly and you're having a great lifestyle. 00:06:33.923 --> 00:06:43.860 Great in, in a lot of people's a lot of people's minds anyway You were, you felt unhappy and unfulfilled, and that was at some point at some level. 00:06:44.161 --> 00:06:50.326 And that was a reason to start this journey and look and find out how to have to be content with yourself essentially. 00:06:50.603 --> 00:06:52.004 That journey of discovery? 00:06:52.072 --> 00:06:59.603 Like now you're a life coach, a mindfulness coach, like you met you, you lead meditations all over the world. 00:06:59.932 --> 00:07:05.091 How did you discover who you truly are and what led you to that path? 00:07:05.122 --> 00:07:08.836 Cause it's very different to maybe w what you were doing on strictly. 00:07:08.968 --> 00:07:10.978 So many words are flowing through my mind. 00:07:10.978 --> 00:07:15.747

We have this beautiful saying in Denmark, always remember to bring yourself along. 00:07:16.853 --> 00:07:25.461 And I think if in a sense of, I don't know if you get the meaning of that, because it doesn't sound the same when I say it in English, but it's I felt like part of me had not been brought along. 00:07:25.581 --> 00:07:26.242 Does that make sense? 00:07:26.242 --> 00:07:31.754 I w I felt become this person where that's, what was expected and that's what you do. 00:07:31.754 --> 00:07:43.403 And there was a part of, duty, you do your job and I was really good at turning up and doing my job, but my Camilla, like the person within had been, so my life had been so regimented and I felt I hadn't grown. 00:07:43.415 --> 00:07:52.583 As a person on a soul level for what I needed, what is that I actually found interesting now, at 35 compared to 25, because of course that might not be the same. 00:07:52.610 --> 00:08:00.720 So in order to do I needed to let go of all of those things for a little bit and go on an inward inside out journey rather than outside in. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.608 So much of my life had been based on the outside, in, when you get that, you'll be happy. 00:08:05.608 --> 00:08:06.689 And that's why I love in NLP. 00:08:06.689 --> 00:08:09.358 We talk a lot about that when I get that, I'll be happy when I get that. 00:08:09.358 --> 00:08:15.629 I'll be happy if that's the, if that's the They a way you work, you probably never be happy, right? 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:18.870 Because we need to be happy here right in this moment. 00:08:18.870 --> 00:08:20.850 And then we can attract the things in that we want. 00:08:20.850 --> 00:08:22.649 And actually there was a sports psychology. 00:08:22.649 --> 00:08:29.579 I can't remember the book back in the day when I was a competitor and reading that sentence actually was a very important time in my life, in my late twenties. 00:08:29.579 --> 00:08:30.930 That kind of up-leveled my. 00:08:31.495 --> 00:08:42.475 My kind of joy in life and my career from knowing that I have to be happy now, but I still didn't think that I had, I didn't have enough time to get to know myself because I was on this career path. 00:08:42.543 --> 00:08:50.488 I hit it for a burnout of 35, just to give you an idea of how career-driven I was, so it wasn't until the universe sent this wonderful burnout just after I left the show. 00:08:50.488 --> 00:08:53.908 So I could really sit in the uncomfortableness of wow. 00:08:53.937 --> 00:08:55.528 Everything I've ever cared about. 00:08:55.827 --> 00:08:57.177 Everything that I love. 00:08:58.243 --> 00:09:01.602 I'm empty and I don't really care so much right now. 00:09:01.633 --> 00:09:04.993 I need to figure out what do I care about now? 00:09:05.023 --> 00:09:13.023 And that's why I talk about in, in Reinvent Me, me starting by nurturing the things that you actually, that, that kind of lights a fire within. 00:09:13.003 --> 00:09:15.061 What do am I passionate about still? 00:09:15.061 --> 00:09:22.260 I knew that one thing I'm passionate about is helping others is serving somehow in this world is connecting to people just like yourself. 00:09:22.260 --> 00:09:23.250 I'm fascinated. 00:09:23.345 --> 00:09:25.384 I'm fascinated by people's stories. 00:09:25.365 --> 00:09:29.668 Everybody has a story that will encourage or inspire someone else. 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:35.182 So yeah, that was a big journey to go and find out in this kind of, really lost year of my life. 00:09:35.212 --> 00:09:40.163 I was just searching for little things that, Oh, this I'm still passionate about this. 00:09:40.222 --> 00:09:41.932 I find fun, but it took time. 00:09:41.932 --> 00:09:47.403 I'm not going to like brush over this Oh, I left my career and then I found another because trust me, that's not how it felt. 00:09:48.937 --> 00:09:49.508 Yeah. 00:09:49.585 --> 00:09:52.563 Was it a case of following your curiosity? 00:09:52.563 --> 00:09:55.691 Cause you talked about what, what was missing in my life? 00:09:55.743 --> 00:10:00.746 Like how did you I guess type those steps to find out what was missing and was part of it. 00:10:00.746 --> 00:10:01.527 Curiosity. 00:10:01.527 --> 00:10:04.256 Was there something else, was there a structured process? 00:10:04.256 --> 00:10:06.807 Was it like, how did you go about that? 00:10:07.214 --> 00:10:12.634 I've always had a love for Any kind of books that talks about motivation and mind and so forth. 00:10:12.634 --> 00:10:17.794 So I dive into that area and started looking for courses that I could take that was feeding my soul. 00:10:17.825 --> 00:10:22.955 It was all about me receiving, I think also I was just depleted and tired from being the one giving. 00:10:22.955 --> 00:10:24.965 And I was just, I wanted to go back to school. 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:27.129 Basically I wanted to receive. 00:10:27.610 --> 00:10:30.289 And I had started a few years earlier when I was doing Strictly. 00:10:30.309 --> 00:10:30.519 Yes. 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:34.750 That I'd actually signed up for, to study psychology at London university. 00:10:34.779 --> 00:10:39.869 But because the series took over and I got into the momentum was Strictly, I just put that aside. 00:10:39.869 --> 00:10:45.208 So I was still curious to study things that could feed my mind and just be, I was very curious. 00:10:45.246 --> 00:10:47.451 I still am still always learning. 00:10:47.691 --> 00:10:51.500 So I wanted to explore some of the tools that I had used to win. 00:10:51.880 --> 00:10:57.160 In my career, I wanted to explore them to how I could use them to feel good inside out. 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:07.360 And so that started with taking an NLP course and then the hypnotherapy, and then there was mindfulness and I started doing some motivational speaking, just sharing my story and hearing what people needed. 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:12.587 And and yeah, it was a journey, but I will say there was a lot

of fear too. 00:11:12.592 --> 00:11:15.293 I'd left behind a lucrative living. 00:11:15.301 --> 00:11:20.370 So I had to make changes in my life too, because it wasn't just like I had saved enough money to not earn money. 00:11:20.379 --> 00:11:23.150 So I would still have one foot in the dance world. 00:11:23.150 --> 00:11:26.429 I would still be doing some gigs there whilst that would pay for my training. 00:11:26.820 --> 00:11:33.059 So I just want people to know it's not like I just went on this journey and could afford to pay for not to work or anything like that. 00:11:33.059 --> 00:11:37.049 Because I think when people look at you and magazines and stuff to say, Oh, that was easy for her. 00:11:37.034 --> 00:11:39.014 I think everybody goes on a journey, right? 00:11:39.014 --> 00:11:41.715 And the step-by-step approach one step at a time. 00:11:41.715 --> 00:11:46.485 I just simply start a bit what's the first course that I feel I'm interested in taking. 00:11:46.485 --> 00:11:52.695 And that was NLP actually, which I just thought was so practical and such a great foundation for everything I did after that. 00:11:54.174 --> 00:11:56.815 There were sacrifices, you made quite a lot of sacrifices. 00:11:56.815 --> 00:12:05.734 And you talked about it in your book, you and your husband, Kevin, you both made sacrifices, you move to LA, that was a big upheaval as well. 00:12:05.734 --> 00:12:08.224 Like it's not just a career change, a life change. 00:12:08.254 --> 00:12:16.037 Like your whole network was like, you had to meet lots of new people, all of that kind of stuff. 00:12:16.086 --> 00:12:16.318 Yeah. 00:12:17.173 --> 00:12:32.356 And again, I'm going back to my own curiosity now and about ego, like it was suck, talking about ego, to leave that lifestyle and to have that title of, Strictly champion and you're, in the press a lot. 00:12:33.392 --> 00:12:39.663 You and suddenly you're in a situation where you're basically almost completely starting again. 00:12:39.663 --> 00:12:42.938 You talk about the term re reinvent me, reinvent yourself. 00:12:43.359 --> 00:12:48.094 What's the significance of of that term reinvents. 00:12:48.105 --> 00:12:51.806 And why do you use that term in particular instead of. 00:12:52.421 --> 00:12:58.638 Life change, career change and that kind of stuff, because for me that's almost like a level of I'm changing my entire identity. 00:12:58.638 --> 00:12:58.697 Yeah. 00:13:00.187 --> 00:13:15.922 I felt like it in the sense that I wasn't going to be Camilla to dancer, I was going to be Kamila so re-invent or coming home either, but I was reinventing how people were perceiving me and believe it enough. 00:13:16.192 --> 00:13:18.652 That's quite a big deal too, because. 00:13:19.397 --> 00:13:30.767 For so many years after I left strictly come dancing, no matter what I had done, even after writing my first book and moving to LA people would still say, yeah, but are you going back to dancing? 00:13:31.667 --> 00:13:32.417 It was like that. 00:13:32.417 --> 00:13:36.467 Just like with one word, just like just wipe away five years of work. 00:13:37.548 --> 00:13:38.057 You know what I mean? 00:13:38.057 --> 00:13:40.128 Like they didn't, it just didn't suit. 00:13:40.727 --> 00:13:46.221 Sometimes there's the story that I was doing something differently because they liked me that, in the D and I'm grateful for that. 00:13:46.207 --> 00:13:49.567 I, it was the most magical time of my life. 00:13:49.988 --> 00:13:56.018 And at the same time, it was just not what my soul was craving anymore, because I was meant to do something else. 00:13:56.018 --> 00:13:59.557 I feel like what I do today, I can only describe as I've come home. 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:04.769 And so when I came to LA, I did an exercise, which was really on LA. 00:14:04.798 --> 00:14:15.808 I realized later the most on Hollywood thing to do when I went down and connected with the owner of unplug meditation, where I've now been working for over six years. 00:14:15.936 --> 00:14:19.535 I went down to write an article about the studio and I just never left. 00:14:19.535 --> 00:14:21.336 I told you on, I can't leave I'm home. 00:14:21.336 --> 00:14:22.326 I need to work here. 00:14:22.355 --> 00:14:23.105 This is the best. 00:14:23.826 --> 00:14:29.048 And for the entire year, I had promised myself, I wouldn't talk about my past. 00:14:29.543 --> 00:14:31.613 I would be right in the moment. 00:14:32.363 --> 00:14:37.732 And it was, it made me so happy a year later when somebody said, Oh my goodness, is that your book? 00:14:37.732 --> 00:14:38.113 Camilla? 00:14:38.182 --> 00:14:41.482 I didn't even know you used to do, they call it dancing with the stars. 00:14:41.513 --> 00:14:41.962 I didn't know. 00:14:41.962 --> 00:14:43.613 You were part of a strictly come dancing. 00:14:44.153 --> 00:14:45.893 And then some of the people they'd gotten to know me. 00:14:45.893 --> 00:14:50.139 They were like yeah, she is, they were like, loves sharing it, but I was so proud of myself for. 00:14:50.484 --> 00:15:00.222 Just being Camilla, that they would meet at the studio that they love to meditate with or share whatever, felt safe to share the story with, or work with me on stress or confidence. 00:15:00.280 --> 00:15:04.390 I just didn't, I didn't need the old identity after that. 00:15:04.421 --> 00:15:13.919 I would say the reinventing of it actually for me means that I went through the kind of letting go of that and then bringing it all back to full circle. 00:15:14.355 --> 00:15:15.075 Does that make sense? 00:15:15.075 --> 00:15:25.904 Because then I realized that no Kamila be proud of your past there's things that you have learned that you can now share because of what you've done and you work really hard for it. 00:15:25.878 --> 00:15:27.418 But I did go through a lot. 00:15:27.418 --> 00:15:29.528 It was like I had to almost lose it to have it. 00:15:29.548 --> 00:15:29.607 Yeah. 00:15:29.628 -->

00:15:33.077 Again, and then I've built it all back in together now and now I really own it. 00:15:33.408 --> 00:15:40.187 But for a time being, I needed to really get back in, I think I needed to get into my feminine energy because I've been such an athlete. 00:15:40.187 --> 00:15:40.847 I was since. 00:15:40.871 --> 00:15:44.652 I was in such a masculine energy for so many years of my life. 00:15:44.682 --> 00:15:45.971 It was like survival mode. 00:15:46.241 --> 00:15:48.101 Almost like my schedule was crazy. 00:15:48.086 --> 00:15:49.255 We will travel to Japan. 00:15:49.255 --> 00:15:50.066 We'll get in a car. 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:51.791 Don said competition would get on the plane. 00:15:51.791 --> 00:15:52.571 We'll get to China. 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:52.961 We'll dance. 00:15:53.024 --> 00:15:56.577 It was not really normal when I look back, I think, how did I do that? 00:15:56.577 --> 00:15:58.317 I'm a highly sensitive person. 00:15:58.298 --> 00:15:58.528 No. 00:15:58.528 --> 00:16:01.048 One of my immune system was always down at the time. 00:16:01.085 --> 00:16:02.735 So I was had on my body. 00:16:02.735 --> 00:16:05.434 I was had on myself and I needed to nurture me. 00:16:05.929 --> 00:16:06.799 As a person. 00:16:07.129 --> 00:16:08.720 So that's what reinventing means. 00:16:08.830 --> 00:16:11.779 It meant thinking about me in a new and fresh way. 00:16:11.809 --> 00:16:13.429 That's how I saw reinvention. 00:16:13.970 --> 00:16:17.105 How can I think about myself in a new and fresh way? 00:16:17.105 --> 00:16:18.966 That's actually aligned with my soul. 00:16:20.150 --> 00:16:29.936 That is so fascinating that you, first of all, chose to not bring up your past and into your new life, into this reinvention. 00:16:30.625 --> 00:16:31.975 First of all, choosing to do that. 00:16:31.975 --> 00:16:38.120 But second of all, having the discipline to out for a year, that's pretty impressive. 00:16:38.140 --> 00:16:43.595 And that, again, that comes back to, for me most people would want to feed their ego. 00:16:43.595 --> 00:16:49.475 And that actually is what keeps them in a career that they might not enjoy or might not fulfill them anymore. 00:16:50.154 --> 00:16:56.495 But how did you have the discipline and the like where did that come from? 00:16:56.467 --> 00:17:05.076 Cause for me, and I think a lot of people to be able to walk away from your previous job, for example, someone might have been working. 00:17:05.611 --> 00:17:10.636 In banking, for example, for 30 years, but they didn't feel they don't feel fulfilled anymore. 00:17:10.666 --> 00:17:18.647 And and to walk away from that, not just from the lifestyle and, people giving you compliments and all that kind of stuff, the financial side as well. 00:17:18.647 --> 00:17:21.738 And there's many different angles of it. 00:17:22.367 --> 00:17:28.997 How did you have that discipline to see that out and actually just be present on your new venture? 00:17:30.781 --> 00:17:32.761 I think a few things. 00:17:32.776 --> 00:17:56.374 The ego one was a really big journey and I always, I talk about in the book that I went back to strictly come dancing to work behind the scenes for a season to test my own ego, because I thought you, if you really truly are in balance with your ego and you don't let it completely run your life, you should be able to be on either side and know that either side in front or behind the camera as a creative at the time is just as valuable. 00:17:56.396 --> 00:18:02.657 It's just sometime we hype things up when people are on screen, but the talent, this, the show was strictly come dancing. 00:18:02.688 --> 00:18:03.557 It's only the show. 00:18:03.557 --> 00:18:08.478 It is because of everybody's talent from makeup to sound like. 00:18:08.478 --> 00:18:11.979 It literally is the top of the top of people that work on that show. 00:18:12.159 --> 00:18:13.689 Every single person is. 00:18:14.003 --> 00:18:14.753 Extraordinary. 00:18:15.203 --> 00:18:19.733 And I went back and did that that was just before we moved to LA and I actually loved it. 00:18:20.094 --> 00:18:24.923 Like I had so much fun and I got to work with a creative person on there. 00:18:24.983 --> 00:18:26.064 Why admire have it? 00:18:26.074 --> 00:18:31.921 My, my entire life from the dance world called Jason Gilkison and it was magical in different ways. 00:18:32.361 --> 00:18:33.230 And I didn't mind. 00:18:33.230 --> 00:18:34.191 And I thought it's okay. 00:18:34.212 --> 00:18:36.044 I'm, I've made peace with this now. 00:18:36.074 --> 00:18:39.824 I don't need this limelight to feed my soul. 00:18:40.003 --> 00:18:43.693 That doesn't mean that we don't want to achieve things by the way, there was time through this. 00:18:43.693 --> 00:18:54.103 And I really want to talk about this because I think sometimes when we go on a spiritual journey, call it, a breakdown, call it stress, call it burnout, whatever it is that we have that kind of break in life. 00:18:54.182 --> 00:18:55.323 We can lose our drive. 00:18:56.292 --> 00:18:59.803 And sometimes that's actually really scary for someone who's hugely driven. 00:18:59.803 --> 00:19:02.202 And I lost my drive for about a year. 00:19:02.202 --> 00:19:05.143 I had zero drive and I literally didn't recognize myself. 00:19:05.259 --> 00:19:11.521 But I realized now that I needed to, because my soul needed something different, I needed to strip away all of that stuff. 00:19:11.551 --> 00:19:13.922 That just wasn't really who I am that needed. 00:19:15.211 --> 00:19:18.571 Lots of things somebody said to me recently, what is it like. 00:19:19.017 --> 00:19:24.136 Most profound thing, that's come out of this entire journey because we're constantly on a journey route in life. 00:19:24.166 --> 00:19:31.037 But for me in this moment and what meditation has brought me to, and all of the things that I've studied is that I don't need anything. 00:19:32.326 --> 00:19:36.767 And if you

asked me that 15 years ago, that would have never told you that, right? 00:19:36.767 --> 00:19:40.067 Because we think we need so many things, but I don't need anything. 00:19:40.217 --> 00:19:43.096 I am, I'm grateful to be of service in this world. 00:19:43.109 --> 00:19:43.829 And I. 00:19:43.817 --> 00:19:49.751 And when you say, when I'm trying to think back to that time, it became about the client. 00:19:49.751 --> 00:19:58.721 And not me, it became about when I would listen to people and what they needed when I connected to them at unplug meditation. 00:19:58.721 --> 00:20:01.842 For example, I realized that it really wasn't helpful to them. 00:20:01.842 --> 00:20:08.711 What I'd done before this very moment, what was vital was what we were going to do now, does that make sense? 00:20:08.711 --> 00:20:11.151 So we've almost easy because I had to be present. 00:20:11.143 --> 00:20:14.535 I was just like, that's not helpful for me to tell them we're living now. 00:20:14.530 --> 00:20:14.891 Yes. 00:20:14.891 --> 00:20:18.101 Later on, I think people and a lot of my clients appreciate it actually. 00:20:18.101 --> 00:20:21.881 Cause they tell me that they feel that they work with a coach who walks the walk. 00:20:21.881 --> 00:20:30.273 Who's not scared of putting themselves out there and sometimes failing sometimes winning, but when I'm with the client present, it's not about me ever. 00:20:30.933 --> 00:20:31.413 Ever. 00:20:31.624 --> 00:20:37.335 And in fact, the person who opened up my sort of launch for, it's not you as me she's a very successful actress. 00:20:37.335 --> 00:20:41.894 And she said these words, she says the beautiful, and they really I'm so grateful for these words. 00:20:41.894 --> 00:20:44.204 And she said in her, talk to the audience that day. 00:20:44.654 --> 00:20:48.825 The beautiful thing about Camilla is that her work is never about how I, when you coach by Camilla. 00:20:48.805 --> 00:20:52.333 And I couldn't, honestly, that for me was the most amazed. 00:20:52.343 --> 00:20:53.502 I was like winning a trophy. 00:20:54.012 --> 00:20:59.102 That was like the best trophy of those words, because it isn't about me. 00:20:59.791 --> 00:21:01.231 It's about holding space. 00:21:01.231 --> 00:21:02.731 Like you're holding space right now. 00:21:02.761 --> 00:21:04.496 That's really what it became about. 00:21:04.855 --> 00:21:19.279 Obviously I had to find a way to balance feminine and masculine energy because in the world, we sometimes, when we do business too, we, we've got to be able to step into one or the other, but when I'm working with clients is absolutely Siraj about me and all about them. 00:21:19.369 --> 00:21:22.400 And so in that point, you are just holding space. 00:21:24.704 --> 00:21:25.484 Yeah. 00:21:25.564 --> 00:21:41.996 One thing that kind of comes to mind when you say that, first of all, there's this element of being content with potentially with less than what you had before, less money, less admiration, less fame and all of those kinds of things. 00:21:43.526 --> 00:21:50.603 In order to have that reinvention and be able to be your true self be you. 00:21:51.083 --> 00:21:56.693 And and then the second part of it is to actually fully serve others. 00:21:56.693 --> 00:22:04.490 So it's like dumping, dumping the ego, getting rid of the ego and serve it, like contributing to, to, to others in society. 00:22:04.505 --> 00:22:06.895 How did you How did you do that? 00:22:06.895 --> 00:22:13.946 Being content with having less is that something that you had, like you'd had experience with before? 00:22:14.044 --> 00:22:21.125 One of the kinds of analogies I have mean a common analogy that I speak to with clients. 00:22:21.575 --> 00:22:37.522 And just in general, is some people were happier as a student with huge amounts of debt living in a dormitory then than they might be in the kind of current career earning, a few hundred thousand dollars a year. 00:22:37.522 --> 00:22:38.832 Where did that belief come from? 00:22:38.832 --> 00:22:43.961 That you could be more content with having less, cause that's not like a common thing. 00:22:43.957 --> 00:22:50.278 And that's not to say that you won't go through ups and downs and have same or more again, by the way. 00:22:50.278 --> 00:22:52.199 But I call it coming back to square one. 00:22:52.499 --> 00:22:56.429 So basically I will, I grew up with two parents who were both self-employed. 00:22:56.421 --> 00:22:57.520 Who had their own businesses. 00:22:57.550 --> 00:23:01.840 And of course, like anybody who owns a business, you're gonna, there's going to be ups and downs. 00:23:01.840 --> 00:23:15.790 So I saw it firsthand how my parents would navigate through those times and how brilliant they would be at still being able to support my sister and I, and still, no matter what was going on in their lives, in work. 00:23:16.211 --> 00:23:19.361 There was love and joy and a unity as a family. 00:23:19.361 --> 00:23:20.711 Like we just had each other's back. 00:23:20.775 --> 00:23:22.154 There was teamwork always. 00:23:22.724 --> 00:23:41.471 And I actually said that I've said that to my mom that a lot of times, one of the most amazing things they gave my sister and I was just to know that no matter where we went in the world, no matter what we did, we knew that no matter how much they hadn't didn't have right at any time, there was a roof over our heads and food on the table. 00:23:42.567 --> 00:23:55.701 And that, that I feel emotional even saying that, but that is like the biggest gift you can give somebody, because I said to my dad, I said, before he passed away, I said, you gave me like freedom to fly because I knew if I really messed up, I will never go hungry. 00:23:55.780 --> 00:24:04.661 I could come home and I realize that some people that don't have that, but I also know that there are good people in the world and people find that in friends and they create their own families in the

world. 00:24:04.671 --> 00:24:10.040 Sometimes you can be that for someone else, just to note that it's a bed and this food. 00:24:11.060 --> 00:24:17.021 And I think I remember my husband and I working so incredibly hard to buy our first home. 00:24:17.010 --> 00:24:22.926 Together and sitting in our living room being like, wait, we've got our first house of the God. 00:24:22.926 --> 00:24:24.126 That is amazing. 00:24:25.326 --> 00:24:29.209 And then inside, I just felt Oh my God, but it's in the wrong country. 00:24:30.169 --> 00:24:31.368 Send the wrong place. 00:24:31.669 --> 00:24:33.739 This is not the place we're going to be. 00:24:34.729 --> 00:24:36.086 And I was like how can this be now? 00:24:36.086 --> 00:24:38.276 Like we worked so hard and here we are. 00:24:38.336 --> 00:24:38.965 And now. 00:24:40.026 --> 00:24:40.767 W this is not it. 00:24:40.846 --> 00:24:41.817 And we actually agreed. 00:24:41.855 --> 00:24:44.704 If we'd unpacked, we were touring at the time doing it. 00:24:44.734 --> 00:24:45.634 They had to play together. 00:24:45.664 --> 00:24:48.244 If we don't pack back, then I don't think we would have ever moved. 00:24:48.845 --> 00:24:50.644 So we did a really crazy thing. 00:24:51.095 --> 00:24:52.805 We decided not to unpack. 00:24:53.585 --> 00:25:06.448 And we moved in with my husband's parents in the spare room for a few months or maybe six months to save, to apply for our visas for For the U S and we actually rented our house out. 00:25:06.807 --> 00:25:09.057 And I remember friends about saying, Oh my goodness. 00:25:09.155 --> 00:25:10.355 We could never do that. 00:25:10.715 --> 00:25:20.546 And what they meant by that sentence was they could, but they didn't want the discomfort of having to move back to their parents 35 or 36 for six months, they wanted to live in that home. 00:25:21.086 --> 00:25:23.486 And have the God and while still saving for their dream. 00:25:24.026 --> 00:25:25.766 And when you come back to, I want to touch on that. 00:25:25.766 --> 00:25:33.026 When you say that people say that they were happy when they were having like that, that they were studying and having the student dream or whatever, and having the dream of their career. 00:25:33.445 --> 00:25:39.086 I think that maybe something we're happy in those situations, because what we do have at the time is that we still have the dream. 00:25:40.121 --> 00:25:42.760 I remember, and I talk about this in dream beliefs, succeed. 00:25:42.827 --> 00:25:45.204 Dream believe succeed is my first book reinvent it. 00:25:45.289 --> 00:25:51.123 If I may, use the word again, strictly come down strictly inspirational was what it was called and I've added to it. 00:25:51.123 --> 00:25:52.742 And it's now called dream beliefs succeed. 00:25:52.742 --> 00:25:56.942 But I talk in there about a time in my life where we really didn't have much money. 00:25:56.942 --> 00:25:57.993 It was do we eat dinner? 00:25:57.981 --> 00:26:00.673 When we were competing, Oh, do we have, do we go to practice? 00:26:00.703 --> 00:26:03.314 Because there was like six pounds or whatever to go to practice. 00:26:03.314 --> 00:26:04.903 And we just didn't have the money. 00:26:04.903 --> 00:26:07.963 Like we couldn't afford supporting our careers at the time. 00:26:08.503 --> 00:26:12.374 And we had many meals which were like just baked beans on toast was I never ate. 00:26:12.568 --> 00:26:13.858 Until I moved to the UK. 00:26:13.858 --> 00:26:17.913 I didn't even know about baked beans on toast, but I quite like it now, that, that was like our meal. 00:26:17.913 --> 00:26:19.324 We sacrificed so much. 00:26:19.324 --> 00:26:22.434 We lived I remember we just, we didn't have any furniture in our apartment. 00:26:22.462 --> 00:26:26.752 My, my dance partner at the time, bill a furniture, but you know what? 00:26:26.813 --> 00:26:31.823 We still laugh because we were sharing something very important, which was a dream. 00:26:32.873 --> 00:26:40.661 And we were reading all of the motivational books and we had somehow hope and faith still and what I really truly believed. 00:26:40.661 --> 00:26:56.659 And I think those are the most important kind of principles was that I truly believe that in order to get what I really wanted, I needed to already vibrate within like my frequency and vibration needed to be one of hope and faith and joy to attract that. 00:26:56.959 --> 00:27:03.334 I knew that if I was in despair, And feeling like really annoyed that I used to have furniture in my apartment. 00:27:03.364 --> 00:27:06.634 Now I had like home build furniture and I was living on baked beans on toast. 00:27:06.703 --> 00:27:09.695 I used to eat, whatever and drive a nice car. 00:27:09.846 --> 00:27:12.816 So it wasn't the first time I ran for me when I did this. 00:27:12.875 --> 00:27:13.596 Does that make sense? 00:27:13.625 --> 00:27:14.195 I was okay. 00:27:14.195 --> 00:27:17.195 Because I did remember, we still laughed. 00:27:17.885 --> 00:27:19.625 We still had so much fun. 00:27:20.016 --> 00:27:20.256 Yes. 00:27:20.256 --> 00:27:25.026 They were really tough days, too, where we were like, she would just give up and never let you know, this will never happen. 00:27:25.026 --> 00:27:27.816 And in my book, I there's a poem called don't quit. 00:27:27.816 --> 00:27:30.336 I used to read that poem every single day. 00:27:31.115 --> 00:27:34.715 I think it's called actually, maybe some call it the climb or whatever. 00:27:34.715 --> 00:27:43.792 But, so when I, when we went around and did this sort of I call it the second time around, I was just like, let's make an adventure. 00:27:44.363 --> 00:27:50.383 Let's go live in a smaller apartment in LA, but we know nobody except one friend, one friend is all we needed. 00:27:50.452 --> 00:27:51.383 Let's celebrate that. 00:27:51.383 --> 00:27:53.423 He's still in our lives to this day. 00:27:53.557 --> 00:27:59.192 And so Tina, back at those times, and we were setting

up a small apartment going how did this happen? 00:27:59.192 --> 00:28:00.692 We just bought out a nice home. 00:28:00.692 --> 00:28:01.382 And now here we are. 00:28:01.515 --> 00:28:03.045 But we built everything together. 00:28:03.045 --> 00:28:06.140 We were a team, my husband and I, because of that, we've taken chances and. 00:28:07.095 --> 00:28:11.144 I can't even believe we'd been here seven years and we both build up businesses from scratch. 00:28:11.144 --> 00:28:13.575 And it's been hard at times. 00:28:13.575 --> 00:28:19.755 There's been moments where like what, Oh, we do it, but it's also just been such a great adventure. 00:28:19.755 --> 00:28:22.035 I would not swap it for anything in the world. 00:28:22.019 --> 00:28:28.423 When I try and unpack the structure of what you just said, it's all so useful and interesting. 00:28:28.401 --> 00:28:29.644 And one element that is. 00:28:29.708 --> 00:28:37.958 Being comfortable with having less, because, if you hit almost rock bottom, you've still got still got food and you've still got shelter. 00:28:38.228 --> 00:28:52.382 And actually, a lot of people in the Western world, certainly in Europe have that, that they might have kind of social security benefits or might be able to go back to their parents and just being comfortable with the simplicities of life. 00:28:52.771 --> 00:28:58.538 It gives you that opportunity to take risks and to actually follow your curiosity. 00:28:59.243 --> 00:29:02.124 Have an adventure in life and see what happens. 00:29:02.124 --> 00:29:06.263 Be able to fall flat on your face if you need to, but get up again. 00:29:06.261 --> 00:29:16.337 And it's interesting, you went through this whole journey with your husband, Kevin, and, obviously he has been a huge support in, and you've been a huge support to his journey as well. 00:29:16.351 --> 00:29:16.621 He 00:29:16.621 --> 00:29:18.121 reinvented as well, by the way. 00:29:18.871 --> 00:29:19.411 Yeah. 00:29:19.391 --> 00:29:20.521 I have to say that one. 00:29:20.521 --> 00:29:23.821 I didn't see coming because we moved to Hollywood so he could act right. 00:29:23.821 --> 00:29:24.692 He was an actor. 00:29:24.821 --> 00:29:33.721 So when we finally arrived here, he sits me down six months into our journey and goes, you know what, since we're here now, I'm not sure I'm into this acting. 00:29:33.819 --> 00:29:38.730 And I literally went are you saying with two people reinventing ourselves right now? 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:40.500 I don't know if I can cover in that. 00:29:40.549 --> 00:29:41.210 But we did. 00:29:41.549 --> 00:29:42.299 We both did. 00:29:42.636 --> 00:29:58.498 So you, you coach clients and help people, you've gone through this journey yourself and you've, in your books, you have lots of practical exercises that really actually help people reinvent themselves, help them, change careers or find out like who they really are. 00:29:58.565 --> 00:30:04.428 Even If you know how to manage a house

mover or even a move internationally, like you've done. 00:30:04.407 --> 00:30:11.644 You'll also help people with, relationship issues, if they, if potentially, maybe they're not in the right relationship. 00:30:11.678 --> 00:30:14.708 The, I guess the common connector with all of that is. 00:30:15.262 --> 00:30:16.313 Big life change. 00:30:16.384 --> 00:30:16.953 Big life change. 00:30:17.223 --> 00:30:25.575 If it can affect people accidentally, or you can take control of it and be conscious of it and actually make decisions to make it happen. 00:30:26.115 --> 00:30:33.279 What do you think are some of the common challenges you found both in your own personal life or. 00:30:33.744 --> 00:30:51.023 From the clients that you've coached in managing big life changes are there commonalities between, going through relationship breakups and new relationships, moving house and countries changing career, are there commonalities in all of those situations? 00:30:51.834 --> 00:30:52.344 Totally. 00:30:52.673 --> 00:30:55.794 I think they all come down to the really simple things. 00:30:56.183 --> 00:30:57.953 What our beliefs about ourselves. 00:30:57.936 --> 00:31:05.287 If we're in despair or hopelessness, why is it worthiness is in, are we not loving ourselves? 00:31:05.527 --> 00:31:15.615 I definitely I've written a whole course about self love because I realized that in order to receive or attract into my life, that kind of relationship I really wanted in my life, I needed to start loving myself. 00:31:15.765 --> 00:31:21.704 It's absurd that we are expecting other people to love us more than we're loving ourselves. 00:31:22.214 --> 00:31:24.015 That's back to front, upside down. 00:31:25.184 --> 00:31:30.311 We don't grow up, really seeing that principle of Hayla love yourself fast. 00:31:30.372 --> 00:31:36.134 Do we see all of these like happy fairytale films where somebody comes and provides the love for you, right? 00:31:36.164 --> 00:31:37.365 Oh, then you're happy. 00:31:37.755 --> 00:31:44.055 No, find the love for yourself, then you'll be happy and then everything else will fall into place. 00:31:44.595 --> 00:31:46.605 Anything if you're feeling powerless. 00:31:47.144 --> 00:32:02.067 Go and go within whether that's through hypnosis meditation or reading some of these, all of these books out there, but you can really ask yourself, if I feel unworthy or unlovable or feel deep fear about taking chances in life, why. 00:32:02.758 --> 00:32:09.855 Is it because I don't feel worthy of the success if, am I fearful that I might gain and lose a where's that coming from where's that belief coming from? 00:32:09.915 --> 00:32:11.145 Is it even yours? 00:32:11.685 --> 00:32:16.358 I spend so much of my time in my career now helping others rewrite that story. 00:32:16.659 --> 00:32:17.979 That's part of reinvention, right? 00:32:17.979 --> 00:32:25.133 Because if we grow up, w with parents that have limited beliefs around money, or, this is your lot, just accept their don't. 00:32:25.133 --> 00:32:27.143 Don't be too, don't shine too brightly. 00:32:27.123 --> 00:32:29.061 You make other people feel uncomfortable. 00:32:29.088 --> 00:32:29.740 That's a big one. 00:32:29.740 --> 00:32:31.799 Isn't it going to go and go here I am. 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.211 I'm going to take over the world, you have that belief in your mindset. 00:32:35.211 --> 00:32:42.951 You need to work on that and go, no, I'm going to shine my light, because if I shine my light, I'm showing you, you can shine your light. 00:32:43.351 --> 00:32:56.412 And you can shine your light and you came here to do so this whole sort of playing it small in many societies, we do that, oh no don't be too much all of these sayings that we've listened to as children have gone into our subconscious mind. 00:32:56.413 --> 00:33:04.416 And this is why I'm so passionate about the subconscious and diving into the subconscious, because the subconscious mind, as runs our lives 95% of the time. 00:33:04.451 --> 00:33:12.944 What is absurd again, is that we are updating our software on our computer all the time, without asking, by the way, do I need this update, just click done. 00:33:13.214 --> 00:33:13.875 Of course you do. 00:33:14.414 --> 00:33:16.634 Why aren't we doing that in our subconscious? 00:33:16.964 --> 00:33:17.924 Why aren't we going? 00:33:17.924 --> 00:33:20.805 Why am I still feeling unworthy off this? 00:33:21.345 --> 00:33:24.555 Why am I doubting that I am lovable? 00:33:24.855 --> 00:33:25.964 Where is this coming from? 00:33:25.964 --> 00:33:32.565 Let me just go within and update this software because hello, everybody in this world deserves to feel loved. 00:33:33.255 --> 00:33:34.694 Everybody is worthy. 00:33:35.174 --> 00:33:36.434 Everybody is enough. 00:33:36.494 --> 00:33:37.575 That's how we're born. 00:33:38.154 --> 00:33:38.775 We're born going. 00:33:38.775 --> 00:33:39.404 You are enough. 00:33:39.404 --> 00:33:40.184 You're not enough. 00:33:40.214 --> 00:33:40.845 You are loved. 00:33:40.845 --> 00:33:42.015 You are not like come on. 00:33:42.007 --> 00:33:43.623 But we go on all of these journeys. 00:33:43.623 --> 00:33:45.772 And then Sunday, we feel unloved. 00:33:45.923 --> 00:33:57.022 That's very valid when we find ourselves in those situations, because of the conditioning that's happened because of the language and trauma and whatever has happened, but we can come home to that. 00:33:57.083 --> 00:34:06.123 And so anything you are trying to attract on the outside of yourself, Your mind is powerful beyond belief, but you got to go and rewire in here. 00:34:06.123 --> 00:34:07.893 Reprogram rewrite the story. 00:34:08.253 --> 00:34:08.492 Yeah. 00:34:08.733 --> 00:34:14.432 I love that saying where it's like, what thinking to you to this point and what thinking do you need to take you to the next point? 00:34:14.445 --> 00:34:15.146 Completely. 00:34:15.146 --> 00:34:19.619 And you talk about going

within and I guess. 00:34:20.184 --> 00:34:22.644 For people that don't know how to do that. 00:34:22.824 --> 00:34:34.324 Like what kind of habits routines daily activities do you do that allows you to go within an actually allows you to really connect with yourself. 00:34:34.505 --> 00:34:50.199 You talk in your book and you have great exercises and also guided meditation audios as well on your website, around meditation, affirmations and visualizations, other are there any kind of, is there any kind of one. 00:34:50.813 --> 00:35:01.074 Like routine or habit that you would recommend to connect with yourself and go within it, or is there a kind of combination that works for you and your clients? 00:35:01.101 --> 00:35:02.244 What would you recommend? 00:35:02.641 --> 00:35:05.101 So first of all is simply committing, right? 00:35:05.175 --> 00:35:13.764 It's so obvious if you say, Oh, I'm going to run a marathon in six months or 12 months, what do I need to do from now till then to make that happen? 00:35:14.465 --> 00:35:15.155 Physically. 00:35:15.155 --> 00:35:16.175 We're totally cool with that. 00:35:16.175 --> 00:35:16.954 We get it right. 00:35:16.954 --> 00:35:22.565 We know if we're going to go and run that marathon and we don't train, it's going to really hurt the brain is the same. 00:35:22.565 --> 00:35:23.434 The mind is the same. 00:35:23.434 --> 00:35:24.724 So why are we so reluctant? 00:35:24.755 --> 00:35:26.764 We would do is we don't like to sit still. 00:35:26.831 --> 00:35:30.222 But I realized, and I really didn't like to sit still either. 00:35:30.251 --> 00:35:32.831 I could only sit for three minutes, so I'm just going to be honest. 00:35:32.831 --> 00:35:36.972 My mantra when I first started meditating was I am so bored. 00:35:37.347 --> 00:35:38.516 When is this finished? 00:35:39.056 --> 00:35:40.677 I couldn't get the words out of my head. 00:35:40.706 --> 00:35:43.797 All I thought about every time I close my eyes was how bored I was. 00:35:43.844 --> 00:35:48.666 And then my friend at the time went, why don't you just try saying I'm so calm instead of I'm so bored, it might help. 00:35:48.726 --> 00:35:49.806 I was like, that's a great idea. 00:35:49.911 --> 00:35:52.311 The irony of that, I now teach other people to sit still. 00:35:52.311 --> 00:36:00.731 It's obviously funny because literally used to set my alarm for three minutes just to make sure I wouldn't sit for four, because that would be too much, so I think it's accepting that. 00:36:01.271 --> 00:36:04.061 Our brains are, and our minds are powerful. 00:36:04.061 --> 00:36:06.972 We have to take charge and to take charge means training. 00:36:07.001 --> 00:36:08.231 That's the boring part, right? 00:36:08.231 --> 00:36:11.626 Because we don't really want to do it, but it's you're going to run that marathon. 00:36:11.626 --> 00:36:17.550 So if you're trying to change a career or change something outside of yourself, you've got to get into training. 00:36:17.550 --> 00:36:22.650 You've got to get disciplined, being disciplined as an athlete, for example means showing up even the days you don't want to. 00:36:23.059 --> 00:36:27.079 So you put it in, on your schedule every morning or every night before you sleep. 00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:28.639 And it become like a non-negotiable. 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:38.829 I don't know how people do meditation, let alone the pandemic, by the way, sorry, do life or the pandemic or any other challenging things in their life without it you, you get in chance of your mind. 00:36:38.853 --> 00:36:42.123 And so I would say try 10 different meditations. 00:36:42.793 --> 00:36:50.960 Any pick any of the ones you can on any of the apps that are free, like insight time or whatever, pick 10 different ones over 10 days, the elect just pick a five minute one. 00:36:50.989 --> 00:36:54.110 I have a whole, there's a 21 day free one on my website. 00:36:54.110 --> 00:36:57.920 Even try the different ones and pick one. 00:36:58.385 --> 00:37:02.045 Pick the one that you think this one works for me, it can be words. 00:37:02.105 --> 00:37:03.244 It can be breath. 00:37:03.635 --> 00:37:07.025 Breath is really a powerful way to start by counting your breath. 00:37:07.005 --> 00:37:12.934 You can literally just breathe in for four, hold the breath for exhale four and hold for, do that for three minutes. 00:37:12.934 --> 00:37:13.715 You're meditating. 00:37:14.195 --> 00:37:15.184 Anybody can do that. 00:37:15.184 --> 00:37:21.130 And by the way, this that's called a square breathing and in mindfulness, and that helps you relax your nervous system immediately. 00:37:21.701 --> 00:37:24.701 So it's a powerful one to have pick one that works for you. 00:37:24.701 --> 00:37:26.561 And then just do the same one. 00:37:27.326 --> 00:37:31.155 For the next 30 days do not expect anything. 00:37:31.155 --> 00:37:31.994 When you meditate. 00:37:32.295 --> 00:37:33.704 Thoughts are going to come and go. 00:37:33.795 --> 00:37:34.485 That's fine. 00:37:34.514 --> 00:37:36.105 We have 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day. 00:37:36.105 --> 00:37:37.005 They're going to come and go. 00:37:37.065 --> 00:37:37.905 It might remain. 00:37:37.934 --> 00:37:38.264 Oh, wow. 00:37:38.264 --> 00:37:40.094 I'm thinking back to one focus. 00:37:40.184 --> 00:37:44.144 Oh, while I'm thinking back to one focus, I'm annoyed back to one focus. 00:37:44.144 --> 00:37:45.224 That's all we keep doing. 00:37:45.224 --> 00:37:46.545 We keep coming back to one thing. 00:37:46.545 --> 00:37:48.224 We're not going to switch off the thoughts. 00:37:48.255 --> 00:37:49.394 We're going to welcome them in. 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.809 That part of your practice get serious about your training, your brain? 00:37:54.900 --> 00:38:00.239 I can only say meditation for me is really just one of those things that has helped me do that. 00:38:00.780 --> 00:38:14.865 That has helped me navigate through so many things, whether it's

been grief or burnout, or just, financial worries, whatever it is, it becomes a thing you can lean on a tool that you can come back to and as you do it over and over again. 00:38:15.346 --> 00:38:16.755 It will start to benefit you. 00:38:16.755 --> 00:38:25.695 Not just when you're sitting, it really doesn't matter if it's relaxing or busy when you're sitting meditating, what matters is how it serves you outside of that, you become less reactive. 00:38:25.757 --> 00:38:28.300 You start to being able to have an new awareness. 00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:31.420 You'll notice yourself acting in a way where you're like, huh? 00:38:31.449 --> 00:38:33.699 Am I going to do it like a little bit differently? 00:38:33.699 --> 00:38:35.409 You start to observe things differently. 00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:37.179 Do you meditate? 00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:40.019 I don't do regularly. 00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:42.210 I do it from time to time. 00:38:43.284 --> 00:38:49.936 I actually I fully am aware of the exponential benefits of doing it regular lifting every day. 00:38:50.057 --> 00:38:59.597 I actually threw myself into the deep end and did a Vipassana 10 day silent retreat, like pure meditation from almost. 00:39:00.108 --> 00:39:03.018 Zero kind of meditating before. 00:39:03.588 --> 00:39:06.768 And that was, that really was being thrown into the deep end. 00:39:06.782 --> 00:39:16.114 It was, I absolutely loved the experience and I was probably the happiest I've been for a long time for months, literally months afterwards. 00:39:16.164 --> 00:39:17.715 And even just that experience. 00:39:17.744 --> 00:39:26.880 I, I found, I felt the benefits of meditating, but it's just getting into that routine and that practice and yeah, that's something I need to work on for sure. 00:39:27.110 --> 00:39:30.974 I fought mentally for my own mental health. 00:39:30.974 --> 00:39:32.233 I can't afford not to. 00:39:32.623 --> 00:39:33.313 I really can't. 00:39:33.643 --> 00:39:35.594 Yeah, it's just didn't feel good. 00:39:35.773 --> 00:39:36.853 Nothing feels good. 00:39:37.094 --> 00:39:37.574 Really. 00:39:37.753 --> 00:39:40.634 It's too crazy, too busy in my brain. 00:39:40.634 --> 00:39:41.264 If I don't. 00:39:41.829 --> 00:39:42.219 Yeah, 00:39:43.148 --> 00:39:44.018 I'll take that out. 00:39:44.108 --> 00:39:47.039 That, that you've challenged me actually now to, and 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:48.329 you have the free 21 days. 00:39:48.358 --> 00:39:50.248 How about that you get 00:39:50.248 --> 00:39:50.969 started? 00:39:51.688 --> 00:39:52.318 Definitely. 00:39:52.349 --> 00:39:52.918 Thank you. 00:39:52.972 --> 00:40:00.601 Before I ask my last question, Camilla where can people find you connect with you and learn more about what you do? 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:01.681 Yeah. 00:40:02.101 --> 00:40:04.590 On my website, Zen, me.tv. 00:40:04.711 --> 00:40:06.192 And I'm one insight timer. 00:40:06.192 --> 00:40:12.822 It's a free app where you can meditate with me on meditation app and of course on social media, that Camilla dollar up. 00:40:12.822 --> 00:40:13.393 Drop me a line. 00:40:13.393 --> 00:40:15.163 If there's anything I can support you on. 00:40:16.438 --> 00:40:16.768 Awesome. 00:40:16.768 --> 00:40:20.577 And we'll leave all of the, those links in the show notes for this show. 00:40:20.655 --> 00:40:37.579 Camilla my last question, I definitely see you as someone that lives with passion in what you do with certainly with purpose and actually have a balance in life, to spend time, with the people that you love and, What working on your work and your passions and your hobbies. 00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:44.208 So those three things I call living with passion, purpose and balanced is for me to burn from within. 00:40:44.838 --> 00:40:52.878 What do you think has been the one thing committed that's made the biggest difference for you to burn from within life? 00:40:52.989 --> 00:41:13.771 To follow My calling when it came, like to follow that feeling when we have discomfort, basically we think that when we feel uncomfortable and when we feel burned out and sad and it can come out in all sorts of ways, panic attacks, depression also, where we really feel all of that discomfort in life. 00:41:14.492 --> 00:41:17.672 Sometimes it's also coming to say Hey, are you listening? 00:41:18.302 --> 00:41:26.112 Because you've, ain't ignoring every sign of giving you, the body and the mind to slow down or to try something that's more aligned with you. 00:41:26.893 --> 00:41:39.923 The biggest thing was to no matter the cost, on the money side of things to, to listen to what my heart really wanted and not to think about how difficult that was going to be or how that was going to look. 00:41:39.923 --> 00:41:43.704 Cause I actually had absolutely no idea by the way. 00:41:44.213 --> 00:41:45.054 No idea. 00:41:45.123 --> 00:41:50.766 To just go I need to follow this feeling this there's some, there's a discomfort here and it's not going away. 00:41:51.096 --> 00:41:55.056 There is something that I need to go and explore about myself. 00:41:55.686 --> 00:41:58.505 It's guiding me towards a different way, a new way. 00:41:58.896 --> 00:42:06.215 And so that was the most important thing because it led me home like home to me, no matter by the way what I'm doing in life, I want to be very clear on that. 00:42:06.246 --> 00:42:08.885 I could change maybe my professional. 00:42:08.885 --> 00:42:13.186 I could change things, but ultimately I feel home because I'm home within. 00:42:15.021 --> 00:42:24.291 The fact that I do am doing a job I love is like amazing, but it's secondary to, it actually led me home within myself. 00:42:24.771 --> 00:42:26.061 That is a content feeling. 00:42:26.061 --> 00:42:30.621 That was, that's a piece that, that, that will follow you in wherever you do in life. 00:42:30.623 --> 00:42:38.155 We go chase our dreams as if our dreams outside of ourselves, but really, th that's the sort of amazing state that we can be in where the pieces comes from within. 00:42:39.130 --> 00:42:39.610 Yeah. 00:42:39.610 --> 00:42:52.322 And that kind of transformation and reinvention that you've had you talk in your book about I'm committed, I'm a dancer, and now the identity statement is I'm committed and I'm content I'm happy. 00:42:52.411 --> 00:42:59.925 And that is, having that as a goal and your identity and actually everything else comes after that. 00:42:59.956 --> 00:43:12.487 And that's the kind of central crux of the of of your reinvention story of your change and and really an inspirational one as well that gives people hope that you really can. 00:43:13.206 --> 00:43:20.300 First of all, listen to yourself, listen to maybe the pains and the doubts and the the anxieties and the insecurities. 00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:26.224 It might have if you are not fulfilled or happy right now, and examine yourself and. 00:43:26.445 --> 00:43:37.146 Become self-aware and, with some of the exercises in, in books like yours and doing meditation and practices and having the right support, you can get there. 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:44.940 So Camilla, I it's been a an absolute joy to interview you and let's keep connected and thank you so much. 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.460 Thank you for all you do as well and sharing this. 00:43:47.795 --> 00:43:49.684 And yeah, just dive in. 00:43:49.684 --> 00:43:51.394 If you're listening, dive in. 00:43:51.394 --> 00:43:56.494 If you feel cold, this one step in that different direction to find out what lights me up. 00:43:57.545 --> 00:43:57.994 Perfect. 00:43:58.144 --> 00:43:58.795 Thank you, Camilla. 00:44:00.164 --> 00:44:01.934 What an inspiration Camilla is. 00:44:03.125 --> 00:44:07.744 I took up Camilla's 21 day meditation experience challenge. 00:44:08.054 --> 00:44:10.125 I'm currently doing it and absolutely loving it. 00:44:10.454 --> 00:44:40.065 So, I'll include the link to that for you for free in the show notes I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I enjoyed making it If you did go right ahead and leave a review for this podcast, by going to rate this podcast.com forward slash band from within that's rate, this podcast.com forward slash burn from within and stay updated with more inspiring interviews by hitting the subscribe or follow button now on your player for this podcast until next time live with passion, purpose, and balance. 00:44:40.364 --> 00:44:41.144 And burn from within.