บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Efe Ajagba Interview

to fight maybe once or twice a 00:02:20.819 --> 00:02:24.500 year. How active are you trying to be? I try 00:02:24.500 --> 00:02:27.919 to be active. It's just, you know, it's difficult 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.340 to get a fighter to fight. I mean, it's difficult 00:02:31.340 --> 00:02:34.400 to get a boxer to fight with me. They try to 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:38.020 get an opponent as much as they can, but when 00:02:38.020 --> 00:02:40.319 they mention my name, nobody wants to fight me. 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.919 So that's why I'm not active much today. I've 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:46.699 been fighting since February, so I'm trying to 00:02:46.699 --> 00:02:52.280 fight. That's another thing that people say that 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.639 Ajakba is not active. It's not me. It's the people 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.159 that don't want to fight. Nobody's mentioning 00:02:56.159 --> 00:03:01.360 my name. They think I'm not existing. I'm here. 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.379 That's what it's all about. Now, we got quite 00:03:05.379 --> 00:03:08.719 a few guys in the top 10. You're highly ranked 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:12.620 in three of the four sanctioned bodies. Do you 00:03:12.620 --> 00:03:14.960 have any particular fighters that you're looking 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.599 to target that maybe you're having difficulty 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:21.139 getting in the ring? I mean, there's a lot, but 00:03:21.139 --> 00:03:24.080 I'm at the top 10 in every division. Top 10, 00:03:24.139 --> 00:03:26.919 you know. So, you know, looking at Yusuke, Yusuke 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.740 is champion, you know. I'm looking at Yusuke 00:03:29.740 --> 00:03:33.539 and Daniel Dubois. Ade Kabaye, you know, this 00:03:33.539 --> 00:03:37.879 guy is called Marat. You can see him for Russia, 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.280 you know. Anthony Joshua as well. Tassie Fury. 00:03:40.939 --> 00:03:44.159 Filip Ekovich, you know, he just beat Moses Sotoama 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.319 last weekend, you know. So, Lawrence Okoye is 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.759 there. Fabio, Richard. You know, those are the 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:55.099 guys I'm looking to fight. So, like I said, nobody's 00:03:55.099 --> 00:03:58.379 measuring my name, you know. So, it's hard for 00:03:58.379 --> 00:04:01.680 me to get a fight with those guys. Now, were 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.219 you able to watch that fight with Moses Otama 00:04:04.219 --> 00:04:06.139 and Philip Pergovich that just happened this 00:04:06.139 --> 00:04:08.580 past weekend? Yes, I watched the fight because, 00:04:08.659 --> 00:04:10.879 you know, that fight was like, it's a lack of 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:14.879 experience with Mr. Otama. Yeah. So I'm kind 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.600 of curious about what you think because, you 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.240 know, you've had fights where you had to step 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.459 up when you were young in your career. You've 00:04:23.459 --> 00:04:26.720 had times where you were tied in a ring, but 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.029 you were able to push through. Like, what's that 00:04:30.029 --> 00:04:33.069 moment like for a fighter when you're, like, 00:04:33.069 --> 00:04:37.810 so exhausted? And how come guys like you were 00:04:37.810 --> 00:04:40.730 able to get over that hump and finish the fight, 00:04:40.850 --> 00:04:45.189 but Moe Lusitama just completely faded late? 00:04:45.850 --> 00:04:51.029 Yeah, you know, I mean, to me, Moe Lusitama against 00:04:51.029 --> 00:04:54.730 Ekovich is just, like I said, it's an experience, 00:04:54.850 --> 00:04:58.480 you know. So Moe Lusitama attracted. do as much 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.379 as possible as you can to take Erkovic out. But, 00:05:01.459 --> 00:05:03.720 you know, this is boxing, you know. It's not 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:06.139 everybody going to knock out like first one, 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.860 second one, third one. So, you give your best 00:05:08.860 --> 00:05:12.699 shot on Erkovic, but you can see he's still right 00:05:12.699 --> 00:05:14.879 there, you know. All you need to do is just keep 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.420 your pace, keep your stamina, your energy, you 00:05:17.420 --> 00:05:20.279 know. Just keep going, but you try to take him 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:22.439 out, but at the same time, you know, you got 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.600 to save your energy because Erkovic is coming 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.300 up, you know. But, you know, Moses Otama does 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:31.259 have a lot of strong punches. He throws speed, 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:33.779 he has speed, skills, skills -wise, you know, 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:35.899 combinations to get, put all the combinations 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:40.120 together, but there's no power on the both ends. 00:05:40.220 --> 00:05:42.839 So if there's power, I promise you, Erkovic will 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.699 not last since one. But you see, Erkovic is taking 00:05:46.699 --> 00:05:49.420 all the punches, but you saw it, you see these 00:05:49.420 --> 00:05:50.740 guys taking the punches, they're still right 00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:54.819 there. But you just, you see your energy, you 00:05:54.819 --> 00:05:57.879 don't keep your pace. But I tell you, he's the 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.939 trainer. They tell him what to do, but here's 00:06:00.939 --> 00:06:03.560 what it is. So that's why his stamina was better. 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:08.300 Now, you've had some tough fights in your career. 00:06:08.779 --> 00:06:10.639 Similar to that, you had a fight with Martin 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:16.060 Bacoli last year out there in Riyadh. Now, you 00:06:16.060 --> 00:06:20.100 came away with the draw, but I kind of felt like 00:06:20.100 --> 00:06:23.540 you won the fight. Did you feel like you won 00:06:23.540 --> 00:06:29.860 the fight? If so, why didn't the judges agree 00:06:29.860 --> 00:06:33.439 with what I saw in the ring? I mean, I was shocked 00:06:33.439 -->

00:06:35.100 as well. Just like you're shocked, you know. 00:06:35.180 --> 00:06:38.500 I was shocked. You know, this is boxing. This 00:06:38.500 --> 00:06:43.160 is what the judge, you know. You know, like, 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.699 there's nothing I can do about it. It's the result. 00:06:46.500 --> 00:06:48.879 You know, would it be the result after the fight 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.480 for the job? But all you knew, you admired. I 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:53.819 want that fight. Even Matthew Boccoli knew I 00:06:53.819 --> 00:06:57.079 want that fight. You know, so there's nothing 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:58.839 I got to do about it. You know, in the performance, 00:06:59.019 --> 00:07:02.040 I put on a great show performance, put all my 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:05.199 punches together, everything, you know, so, you 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.959 know, this is boxing. It's just, it's just up 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.740 before you draw. I want that fight, bro. It is 00:07:10.740 --> 00:07:16.319 what it is. Now, was there any talk of maybe 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.639 doing a rematch of the fight or have you moved 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:23.699 on? I've not moved on, so I'm talking to Zufa 00:07:23.699 --> 00:07:26.699 just to give me a rematch. If any guys don't 00:07:26.699 --> 00:07:29.300 make sure on the top 10, any guys don't want 00:07:29.300 --> 00:07:33.779 to fight me, I have to move on with Matthew Bokole 00:07:33.779 --> 00:07:37.040 for a rematch. But, you know, I test Matthew 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:42.439 Bokole's shot on Instagram. I test him, like, 00:07:42.500 --> 00:07:45.139 let's do a rematch. But he never responded. I 00:07:45.139 --> 00:07:48.000 guess he didn't want to do the rematch. Yeah, 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.160 I guess because it was a tough fight for him. 00:07:51.459 --> 00:07:53.360 Now we got a question from one of the listeners. 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.160 Troll wants to know, is Efe still doing his meal 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.899 preparations for fights or is the Zufa Fight 00:07:59.899 --> 00:08:02.240 Center doing it? Because in the past you said 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.199 that you do all of your own cooking because it's 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.860 like one of your passions. Yeah, man. I do all 00:08:08.860 --> 00:08:10.839 my stuff on my own. Cooking, all that stuff. 00:08:10.980 --> 00:08:14.540 When I go to camp, I do all this by myself. Cooking, 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:17.829 you know, do all that stuff. You know, if we're 00:08:17.829 --> 00:08:21.029 going to come to Vegas, I'll be cooking. You 00:08:21.029 --> 00:08:26.410 know, I do my own thing. How do you get yourself 00:08:26.410 --> 00:08:31.110 prepared for a fight when it comes to strength 00:08:31.110 --> 00:08:32.950 and conditioning? Because you're a strong guy. 00:08:33.750 --> 00:08:36.690 You're built to go 12 rounds. Does that start 00:08:36.690 --> 00:08:40.070 in the kitchen with the food? Does it start with 00:08:40.070

--> 00:08:44.389 the sparring? How do you get yourself to go the 00:08:44.389 --> 00:08:47.159 distance all the time? I mean, it's not about 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:50.460 the food. It's just, it's the mindset. The mindset. 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.519 I know the food is, the food as well too, you 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:56.580 know, the food, the supplements, the training, 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:00.100 you know, it's a crochet. It's my fitness coach, 00:09:00.220 --> 00:09:03.360 crochet, you know, so it pushes me to, you know, 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.039 you know, do a lot of running, swimming, all 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.440 that stuff, like cardio, a lot of cardio workouts. 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.879 So, you know, those are the, you know, those 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:13.500 are the workouts that are pulling me to make 00:09:13.500 --> 00:09:16.200 me go through the year. 12 -1 fights. But you 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.259 know what? We would all fight against Martin 00:09:18.259 --> 00:09:21.000 Boccoli fights. I spar every day with different 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.919 guys. Every day. Like, I'm going like 12 -1, 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:29.019 you know, 15 -1. Sometimes every day. Non -stop. 00:09:29.059 --> 00:09:31.860 Every single day with different people. Go to 00:09:31.860 --> 00:09:33.940 different people in the gym to spar a lot of 00:09:33.940 --> 00:09:36.919 guys. But sometimes when guys hear my name, they 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.120 don't want to spar. So I move on to the next 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.539 people for sparring. That's what I do. Sometimes 00:09:41.539 --> 00:09:43.860 with sparring, I take... Guys out in the spawn, 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:46.720 they pick the next person in. So that's what 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.720 I'll be doing in the spawn, you know, so to prepare 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.419 for a fight. Now, when you first came into the 00:09:52.419 --> 00:09:57.059 game, you were really known as like a real knockout 00:09:57.059 --> 00:10:00.700 puncher. You had the straight one, too. You're 00:10:00.700 --> 00:10:04.279 still a knockout puncher, but it seems like you've 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:08.019 expanded your game a lot and your repertoire. 00:10:09.049 --> 00:10:12.590 Um, what's the maturation process for you been 00:10:12.590 --> 00:10:15.590 like, uh, as a fighter coming into the game and 00:10:15.590 --> 00:10:17.590 trying to add different wrinkles to your game? 00:10:18.169 --> 00:10:21.429 Yeah. You know, like before when I was with the 00:10:21.429 --> 00:10:23.549 one, she, you know, stuff, stuff like that, you 00:10:23.549 --> 00:10:25.830 know, that's what I said before you tried to 00:10:25.830 --> 00:10:29.009 fit trainers to get more skiff wise. You know 00:10:29.009 --> 00:10:31.610 what I mean? You know, but if you be with more 00:10:31.610 --> 00:10:33.509 trainer, it's not going to help. So you have 00:10:33.509 --> 00:10:36.639 to try different chains. to give you a skill

00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.179 wise, like punches are to move. When you punch, 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.879 I had to move for the angle. I start fresh. You 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.580 know, when I was running, she is always wanting, 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:47.759 you know, so I don't send things, send it over. 00:10:47.860 --> 00:10:50.620 So that's why I have to move on to the next coach 00:10:50.620 --> 00:10:54.019 to get some new training tricks for box. You 00:10:54.019 --> 00:10:56.200 know, so that's how I keep going to learn more 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.379 stuff to put it on my, you know, my weapons. 00:11:00.299 --> 00:11:03.940 Now, how did you, uh, get into the sport of boxing? 00:11:05.230 --> 00:11:07.870 You know, I used to play soccer, you know. You 00:11:07.870 --> 00:11:09.750 know, I'm from Nigeria as well. I used to play 00:11:09.750 --> 00:11:11.710 soccer. I love soccer, to be honest with you. 00:11:11.809 --> 00:11:14.929 I love soccer. I play defense in soccer. So, 00:11:14.950 --> 00:11:18.149 you know, when I got into boxing, you know, I 00:11:18.149 --> 00:11:20.990 went out with my friends. Two of my best friends. 00:11:21.090 --> 00:11:24.230 I went out to go somewhere, you know. So, at 00:11:24.230 --> 00:11:26.429 that time, I was not a boxer. I was playing soccer. 00:11:26.629 --> 00:11:29.870 So, I went out. So, when I was going out, there's 00:11:29.870 --> 00:11:33.970 a bottle. Like, the top is open. It's on the 00:11:33.970 --> 00:11:37.190 floor. So there's a lady, the bouncer came towards 00:11:37.190 --> 00:11:38.990 me, they're walking towards me and I'm going 00:11:38.990 --> 00:11:41.809 on my own, you know. So the lady mistakenly matched 00:11:41.809 --> 00:11:44.909 the water, bottled water at the top, popped out 00:11:44.909 --> 00:11:48.590 and the water splashed on my shirt. So if the 00:11:48.590 --> 00:11:51.730 lady apologised, the whole thing would be, you 00:11:51.730 --> 00:11:55.090 know, sorted. But she'd be rude and disrespectful, 00:11:55.450 --> 00:11:58.889 like, you know, curse me out, like I can't do 00:11:58.889 --> 00:12:02.809 nothing, all that stuff. But I was like, in my 00:12:02.809 --> 00:12:06.009 head, I was like, What did I say wrong? You smashed 00:12:06.009 --> 00:12:08.049 one of my body by accident, but it's nothing 00:12:08.049 --> 00:12:11.710 to apologize. But the thing is, the reason why 00:12:11.710 --> 00:12:13.529 she's doing that because of his boyfriend, his 00:12:13.529 --> 00:12:15.490 boyfriend is a body breeder. He's a bouncer. 00:12:16.970 --> 00:12:21.169 Exactly. So that's what I feel like. Why did 00:12:21.169 --> 00:12:25.889 all this, like, you know, all this, you know, 00:12:25.889 --> 00:12:28.549 this IP and all that stuff. So that's why I'm 00:12:28.549 --> 00:12:30.750 looking at his boyfriend. But guess what? The 00:12:30.750 --> 00:12:34.519 boyfriend didn't say nothing. He was... Like, 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.399 he was with her. Like, the

same thing. He said, 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:40.240 like, what am I going to do about it? Stuff like 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:41.940 that. When he said stuff like that, I was like, 00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:44.379 he's a man, I'm a man, you know? Whether somebody 00:12:44.379 --> 00:12:46.700 do that to you, you've got to feel the same way. 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.539 So I was so hungry, I pissed off. Like, for no 00:12:50.539 --> 00:12:52.940 reason, I just punched the guy. I punched him 00:12:52.940 --> 00:12:54.539 on his left eye and they fell on the ground. 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:57.659 With anger, you know what I mean? So I don't 00:12:57.659 --> 00:13:02.259 like people diminuting me. talking trash on me 00:13:02.259 --> 00:13:04.799 you know i don't like i'm a quiet guy i'm very 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.740 quiet but when you're disrespectful i'm not going 00:13:07.740 --> 00:13:10.059 to take it lightly so that's why that's exactly 00:13:10.059 --> 00:13:11.759 what i do to the guy so when i approached him 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.299 he fell on the ground with his forehead land 00:13:14.299 --> 00:13:17.580 on the ground and it's left up tear up and the 00:13:17.580 --> 00:13:20.399 blood is rushing out so when the guy failed i 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:23.379 was like i thought i'd kiss somebody you know 00:13:23.379 --> 00:13:25.340 with the way the guy fell on the ground it's 00:13:25.340 --> 00:13:29.200 like he's dead already i'm telling you i promise 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.799 you because my heart's like I didn't, I don't 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.720 know where to start. Because where I put is my 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.279 street, is my area, you know. So there's a lot 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.799 of people in that area that knows me, they know 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:42.919 where I live. So I can't run, I can't do anything. 00:13:43.179 --> 00:13:45.659 So I just decided, like, people are screaming, 00:13:45.700 --> 00:13:47.360 like, I'll kill somebody, you know. So I was 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.460 like, I don't know what to do. So I just went 00:13:49.460 --> 00:13:52.759 to the store, I get a bottle of water. So first 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.080 bottle of water, I put it on the guy on the floor, 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.519 and the guy wake up. for no reason. He just got 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.299 up. I was like, when he got up and I left, guess 00:14:01.299 --> 00:14:04.700 what? The girl that caused the whole thing, she 00:14:04.700 --> 00:14:09.740 was not there. She left. She ran away. You know, 00:14:09.740 --> 00:14:13.700 it's kind of funny and ironic. It started with 00:14:13.700 --> 00:14:16.080 somebody splashing water on you, and then you 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.940 had to splash water on him to wake him up. Yeah, 00:14:18.940 --> 00:14:22.480 exactly. So, you know, those two of my friends, 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:24.200 they witnessed the whole thing, and they told 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.159 me, I was not even thinking about boxing. So 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:31.279 they had no more telling me to do boxing. Because 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.200 they witnessed the whole thing. It's like, what 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.000 kind of strength did I have to punch somebody 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:38.840 like that? That's huge. You know, big ass. Because 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:40.679 I was small, you know. When I punched him, it's 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.779 like, for no reason. Everybody was shocked. So 00:14:43.779 --> 00:14:45.720 those were my friends. They told me to do boxing. 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.500 And then, I didn't even know. I was not even 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:50.500 thinking about boxing. But they put that on me 00:14:50.500 --> 00:14:53.919 to do boxing. So it took a while for me to think 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:58.460 about boxing. That way, one day, I changed my 00:14:58.460 --> 00:15:00.799 mind. I was like, you know what? Let me just 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.799 go try something new. Then I went to the stadium. 00:15:04.100 --> 00:15:06.940 That's how I started my boxing. The rest is history. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.840 Now, you mentioned how you don't really like 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:12.740 when people kind of talk trash to you because 00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:14.179 you're a quiet guy. You don't bother nobody. 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.440 Have you ever had an opponent try to get into 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.879 your head before a fight? And what happened with 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:25.240 that? I mean, if anyone tries to say something 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.960 harsh on me, I'm not going to take that because 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:32.679 this is me. Like I said, a lot of people cannot 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:34.299 take that pressure. I can take the pressure. 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:37.759 If you try to insult me, I will take it, but 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:42.100 I'll put all my facts in the ring. But if you 00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:44.240 try to disrespect me outside of boxing, I'll 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:47.379 stop the day. As I have a box and I'm a fighter 00:15:47.379 --> 00:15:50.860 now, I can't do anything outside of boxing. I 00:15:50.860 --> 00:15:53.600 can't. Because I have a license. People do, they 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.100 piss me off, but I have to think about my life 00:15:56.100 --> 00:15:59.559 first. About my safety first, you know? Before 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:03.419 I can make action. Because whatever you do, it's 00:16:03.419 --> 00:16:05.759 the consequences, you know? So that's why I have 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.220 to, before I do something, I have to think first. 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.200 Before I do it, you know? So, yeah. Now, have 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.159 you had a fighter that just pissed you off so 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:17.159 much you just said to yourself, yo, I cannot 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:20.200 wait to get this guy in the ring? Exactly. That's 00:16:20.200 -->

00:16:22.080 exactly what he said. Exactly what I'm going 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:24.440 to do. When you do something that outside the 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.639 boxing, go to the ring, I'm going to put, it's 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:31.259 not like put all the anger, but I have to stick 00:16:31.259 --> 00:16:34.379 on my game plan. Yeah. Stick on my game plan 00:16:34.379 --> 00:16:37.480 because if you allow the anger, the anger is 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.460 going to mess up your game plan. That's the whole 00:16:40.460 --> 00:16:42.720 thing. That's exactly what happened to Joshua 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.440 and Daniel Dubois. So, you know, he's talking 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:50.820 to Joshua, but Joshua doesn't have to take it. 00:16:50.860 --> 00:16:53.000 You know, he's just going there. You want to 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:57.019 take him out so quickly. But this is not a street 00:16:57.019 --> 00:17:01.519 fight. This is boxing. You know, so, yeah. Now, 00:17:01.539 --> 00:17:04.619 I've noticed that you have, like, you know, some 00:17:04.619 --> 00:17:06.859 good analysis of, like, other fights and other 00:17:06.859 --> 00:17:09.759 fighters. How much boxing do you watch outside 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:13.819 of your own matchups? I mean, I watch a lot, 00:17:13.940 --> 00:17:18.059 all the boxes, but this, if any fight is not, 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.359 if any, any fighter has body, I don't watch, 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.759 but if any fighter that is, it's a thing I watch, 00:17:23.819 --> 00:17:26.980 I watch all the fights all the time. But the 00:17:26.980 --> 00:17:30.059 last fight I watched, uh, you know, that was 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:32.480 the shocking one. That was the shocking one. 00:17:32.500 --> 00:17:35.000 Yes. That was the shocking one. You know, I, 00:17:35.019 --> 00:17:40.109 you know, so, you know, I mean, I, I, It's a 00:17:40.109 --> 00:17:43.450 good thing for Ekovic. This is the first time 00:17:43.450 --> 00:17:46.990 he's come heavyweight in his career. First heavyweight 00:17:46.990 --> 00:17:52.990 champion. I'm so happy for him. He wants to fight 00:17:52.990 --> 00:17:54.769 somebody else. He doesn't want to fight just 00:17:54.769 --> 00:17:59.869 Frank Sanchez. He wants to fight Daniel Dubois 00:17:59.869 --> 00:18:04.650 for the match. But it is what it is. He's the 00:18:04.650 --> 00:18:06.289 one that owns that place. He can call anybody 00:18:06.289 --> 00:18:09.920 he wants to fight. Do you have any fighters in 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.339 particular that you just love watching a fight? 00:18:12.460 --> 00:18:17.940 Who are some of your favorites? I mean, to be 00:18:17.940 --> 00:18:20.000 honest with you, I'm the favorite of myself. 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:24.960 Yes, that's true. I'm the favorite of myself, 00:18:25.059 --> 00:18:27.059 but sometimes I don't feel like watching the 00:18:27.059 --> 00:18:29.039 fight. If the fight is bad, just like Joshua 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.180 Furi, I'm not going to watch that fight because 00:18:31.180 --> 00:18:33.779 I know where the fight is going. That's going 00:18:33.779 --> 00:18:36.039 to be one of the biggest fights in boxing. I 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:37.779 know. I know that, but I know where that fight 00:18:37.779 --> 00:18:41.980 is going. I can see the picture. How do you think 00:18:41.980 --> 00:18:44.279 that fight's going to go? I mean, Philly is going 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.819 to beat Joshua. Really? Yes. Philly will beat 00:18:47.819 --> 00:18:53.519 Joshua. Okay. Hey, man, listen. Your Nigerian 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:55.380 brother might not like to hear that, man. I mean, 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:58.160 I'm not a hater. To be honest, I'm not a hater. 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.599 Trust me. I'm not a hater. I'm telling you where 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:05.680 the boss is going to look like. Now, Look at 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:09.259 Joshua's last fight. Oh, yeah. It wasn't a good 00:19:09.259 --> 00:19:11.220 fight. Although Fury didn't look good in his 00:19:11.220 --> 00:19:13.579 last fight either. I don't think either guy looked 00:19:13.579 --> 00:19:16.079 good in their last fight. But Joshua did get 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.160 knocked down. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But Fury did 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:20.720 get knocked down. But Joshua got knocked down 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:22.720 three times or twice. I don't know if I'm mistaken. 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.160 So both of them really have a good fight. But 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:26.839 at the same time, when it comes to big fights 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:29.420 with Joshua or Fury, they're both going to take 00:19:29.420 --> 00:19:34.240 it serious. Who's the big fight for F .A. Ajagba? 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.700 Who's the one guy where, before you leave boxing, 00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:41.299 you want to get in the ring with him? I mean, 00:19:41.339 --> 00:19:43.660 I want to fight with Jusek, but, you know, Jusek 00:19:43.660 --> 00:19:45.359 is in the retirement suite. I want to fight with 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:47.359 Jusek. I want to share the experience with Jusek, 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.579 but I don't have the opportunity. So I wish that 00:19:50.579 --> 00:19:52.400 I'd give you the opportunity to fight with Jusek. 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.720 I'll be grateful. Even for you, Tassie, for you 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:58.160 as well, you know, Daniel Dubois, Joshua, anybody, 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.170 you know. It's that everywhere division. I'll 00:20:01.170 --> 00:20:02.710 be grateful for them to give me that opportunity. 00:20:02.990 --> 00:20:04.650 Once they give me that opportunity, that's going 00:20:04.650 --> 00:20:10.130 to be my legacy. Now, a Usyk fight might be doable. 00:20:10.549 --> 00:20:14.289 You know, you always Zufa. Usyk's kind of a free 00:20:14.289 --> 00:20:17.930 agent. He goes wherever he wants to go. Has anyone 00:20:17.930 --> 00:20:21.670 from your

team maybe contacted Usyk to see if 00:20:21.670 --> 00:20:24.750 he has any interest in fighting you? I mean, 00:20:24.809 --> 00:20:27.720 we chat every day, I think. Just at my last fight, 00:20:27.859 --> 00:20:29.960 when they ask me who am I fighting, I always 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.819 make sure you say. I'm pretty sure you say watch 00:20:32.819 --> 00:20:35.460 the fight, watch the videos, you know, so there's 00:20:35.460 --> 00:20:38.700 no response from them. But hopefully, hopefully 00:20:38.700 --> 00:20:43.019 one day you'll get a fight with him. If you say 00:20:43.019 --> 00:20:47.279 that, it's hard. Now, perhaps your most famous 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:52.200 fight, you versus Curtis Harper, it wasn't even 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.180 a fight. He just walked out on you and left. 00:20:56.700 --> 00:21:00.339 As soon as the bell rang, what were you thinking 00:21:00.339 --> 00:21:03.359 in that moment when you just saw him just leave 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.839 the ring? Man, I was shocked. Everybody was shocked 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.799 as well. I was shocked. I was very shocked and 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.660 pissed at the same time. I was like, my dude 00:21:12.660 --> 00:21:15.279 didn't know he was going to make me famous. Oh, 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.660 yeah. Yeah, I was pissed. But after that fight, 00:21:19.740 --> 00:21:24.180 I realized, damn, this video went viral. It went 00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:26.980 viral. everybody a lot of people be talking about 00:21:26.980 --> 00:21:29.339 our fights you know who matters all the legend 00:21:29.339 --> 00:21:32.259 it never happened in boxing before everybody 00:21:32.259 --> 00:21:35.240 was shocked but you know to be honest i was i 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:38.500 was pissed i was angry on like i've been training 00:21:38.500 --> 00:21:42.740 all the camps everything is just without fighting 00:21:42.740 --> 00:21:46.019 it's like i mean what is he doing is he scared 00:21:46.019 --> 00:21:50.960 or you know about you know Have you spoken to 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:55.079 him ever after that fight? Yeah, I spoke to him 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.640 on the dressing room. He came to me on the dressing 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:01.980 room. He told me it's the money they're offering. 00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:04.440 It's not scary. That's what he told me. It's 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.160 not scary, but he told me it's the money they're 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:08.440 offering for the beginning. That's not what they're 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:12.980 offering me in the fight. Oh, okay. That's what 00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:15.519 he told me. I was like, why are you telling me? 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:21.359 It is what it is. Before the fight, I don't know 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:25.059 if he's married or he has a girlfriend. His girlfriend 00:22:25.059 --> 00:22:28.059 is a white lady. He came to me on the Wednesday. 00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:32.299 He came to me on the Wednesday and said, like, 00:22:32.299 --> 00:22:35.059 I'm the one fighting Kodisapa, which is his boyfriend. 00:22:36.019 --> 00:22:38.640 I was like, why are you telling me? He's like, 00:22:38.779 --> 00:22:41.160 I'm a talented fighter. I'm strong, this, that, 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.980 that. You know, not knowing that. I didn't even 00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:46.500 know he was going to walk out of the ring, but 00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:51.339 he came to me and said it was the money. I thought 00:22:51.339 --> 00:22:53.740 he was scared, but after listening to all these 00:22:53.740 --> 00:22:58.480 situations, I was like, yeah. That's what happened. 00:22:59.259 --> 00:23:01.759 Obviously, that had to be the easiest fight of 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:03.359 your career. You didn't have to throw a punch. 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.259 What was the toughest fight of your career so 00:23:06.259 --> 00:23:12.980 far? My toughest fight? I have to mention one 00:23:12.980 --> 00:23:16.720 or just two. Uh, whatever, however many you want. 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:19.160 I mean, uh, my toughest fight on me when I was 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:24.839 BBC, you say, I need the mirrors. Oh man. That 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:29.700 was a crazy fight. Yeah. That was, that was my, 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.440 I just tried to kill each other, man. Exactly. 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.119 Yeah. That was the hardest fight of my career. 00:23:37.289 --> 00:23:40.309 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one was crazy. Yeah, 00:23:40.309 --> 00:23:48.430 that. At that fight, I hurt my hand. Probably 00:23:48.430 --> 00:23:52.630 from punching him. Yeah, I hurt my hand. I hurt 00:23:52.630 --> 00:23:55.609 my elbows. So my elbow was hurt. Both elbows 00:23:55.609 --> 00:23:57.910 were hurt. My hand was hurt. This guy is taking 00:23:57.910 --> 00:24:01.170 punches. Taking a lot of punches. And he keep 00:24:01.170 --> 00:24:03.670 coming. He keep coming. So that's the thing. 00:24:03.869 --> 00:24:06.460 You see, right there, I hurt my hand. I hold 00:24:06.460 --> 00:24:09.079 my hands and I still keep fighting. That's the 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.720 mentality. That's the mentality where it's strong 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.339 mentality that I have. I'm not the quitter. You 00:24:14.339 --> 00:24:16.460 know, I can never, if I hold my hand, there's 00:24:16.460 --> 00:24:19.279 no way I can quit. I will fight to the end. So 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.279 that's exactly what I do. You know, since I can't 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.980 knock this guy out, I have to keep my pace. I 00:24:26.980 --> 00:24:29.680 have to keep my pace, you know. What kind of 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.299 goals have you set for yourself this year and 00:24:33.299 --> 00:24:37.859 within like the next, like, 18 months? I mean, 00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:42.420 you know, like I said before, you know, it's 00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:44.299 difficult to have a fight with all these guys, 00:24:44.380 --> 00:24:46.900 but if they can

give me the opportunity, my goal 00:24:46.900 --> 00:24:50.480 is to become an everywhere champion. So those 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:52.539 guys that I mentioned, if they can give me the 00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:55.099 opportunity to fight, it's going to be, you know, 00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:58.079 my goal is to build my boxing legacy forever. 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.740 Just to become an everywhere champion if they 00:25:01.740 --> 00:25:04.160 give me the opportunity. I promise you. The fans 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.160 will not regret it. No doubt, no doubt, man. 00:25:08.259 --> 00:25:11.599 Listen, I appreciate you joining me. I hear you're 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.940 coming back sometime in the fall. Hopefully, 00:25:15.059 --> 00:25:18.180 you can get someone to sign on the dotted line 00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:20.980 before you get out of here. Do you have a message 00:25:20.980 --> 00:25:24.299 that you want to send to the entire heavyweight 00:25:24.299 --> 00:25:28.460 division? I have a message, you know. My message 00:25:28.460 --> 00:25:30.220 is this. I don't want them to be scared of me. 00:25:30.339 --> 00:25:33.740 There is facts. Let's get this fight ready. Let's 00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:36.880 fight all the everywhere traditions. You say 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:43.440 Daniel Dubois, Joshua, Fabio, Richard, whoever. 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:50.339 I'm here. I'm right here. I'm not a ghost. I'm 00:25:50.339 --> 00:25:53.559 a fighter just like them. Why you guys don't 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:55.779 mention my name? Nobody's mentioning my name. 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.500 I'm right here. You have to be scared of me. 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.319 Let's fight. If you beat me, I'll move on. If 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.039 I beat you, you move on. That's boxing. Let's 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.279 make this fight happen. I don't know why everybody's 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.440 dodging me. They're dodging me like I'm a ghost. 00:26:11.059 --> 00:26:14.039 I'm not a ghost. I'm right here. Stop scaring 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.140 me. Stop scaring me. Don't be scared. Fight. 00:26:17.299 --> 00:26:20.799 Let's fight. You beat me, I'll move on. But I've 00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.740 got to tell you this. Before you're going to 00:26:23.740 --> 00:26:27.690 beat me, you're going to sweat. Before you beat 00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:30.009 me, you will sweat a lot before you beat me. 00:26:30.049 --> 00:26:32.529 But like I said before, let's get this fight 00:26:32.529 --> 00:26:38.269 ready, man. You know, I want this fight. November, 00:26:38.329 --> 00:26:41.549 I'm getting this fight for November, but the 00:26:41.549 --> 00:26:45.170 date is not finalized yet. But I just want somebody 00:26:45.170 --> 00:26:49.349 to fight on November. Absolutely, absolutely. 00:26:49.569 --> 00:26:51.369 Before you get out of here, just tell the people 00:26:51.369 --> 00:26:53.490 where they can find you at, where they can follow 00:26:53.490 --> 00:26:56.299 you at to support you. Yeah, they can follow 00:26:56.299 --> 00:27:01.900 me on Instagram. So you guys can reach out to 00:27:01.900 --> 00:27:07.420 me. Follow me. Thank you guys for following my 00:27:07.420 --> 00:27:10.680 career. I appreciate it. Hey, listen, thank you 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.839 for all the blood, sweat, and tears, man. Because 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:18.539 you've had some banger fights, man. So I appreciate 00:27:18.539 --> 00:27:20.680 you for joining me, taking the time to join me, 00:27:20.779 --> 00:27:22.839 man. And I look forward to seeing you in your 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.200 next fight. Yeah, one more thing. Do you remember 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.599 you got to post this video? You posted today? 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.880 Yeah. Okay, okay. Well, you posted with Josh 00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:36.440 Tatton. Okay, no doubt. Yeah, you can talk to 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:40.380 my manager, you know. Do you have X or Twitter? 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.240 No, I don't use Twitter, to be honest. Okay. 00:27:45.220 --> 00:27:48.480 I don't know who I was tagging on Twitter then. 00:27:50.540 --> 00:27:53.099 Somebody impersonating you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.839 Just tap my manager, you know. Tap my manager, 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.279 Dave. Go from there. No doubt. No doubt, man. 00:27:58.380 --> 00:28:01.319 Listen, I appreciate you, man. We'll talk soon. 00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.579 I look forward to your next fight. All right, 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.859 man. I appreciate it. F .A. Jagba, ladies and 00:28:05.859 --> 00:28:06.119 gentlemen.