บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Canelo Alvarez Returns, But At What Cost?

00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.199 from the beginning that you're going with Christian 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.649 and Billy to beat him it's no secret I'm going 00:04:43.649 --> 00:04:45.689 with Canelo Alvarez to beat Christian and Billy 00:04:45.689 --> 00:04:49.589 we are on opposite sides of this so you know 00:04:49.589 --> 00:04:52.209 we're not breaking the news by saying that but 00:04:52.209 --> 00:04:59.040 during fight week what if anything have you seen 00:04:59.610 --> 00:05:03.610 from your guys christian and billy that would 00:05:03.610 --> 00:05:08.149 further uh buttress your opinion that christian 00:05:08.149 --> 00:05:11.410 and billy is gonna beat canelo i wouldn't say 00:05:11.410 --> 00:05:13.230 anything's further i mean he looks in great shape 00:05:13.230 --> 00:05:14.949 but when is christian billy not looking great 00:05:14.949 --> 00:05:17.050 shape so i don't think anything's further i seen 00:05:17.050 --> 00:05:18.870 you know someone post like oh he looks scared 00:05:18.870 --> 00:05:20.990 or whatever and you know i don't i don't know 00:05:20.990 --> 00:05:22.769 what the hell to make of any of that stuff and 00:05:22.769 --> 00:05:24.569 one thing i will say is canelo looks in fantastic 00:05:24.569 --> 00:05:28.680 shape he looks uh in great great shape so That 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:30.300 would be one thing in the positive maybe for 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:32.720 Canelo. But I don't see, nothing changed my mind 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.879 or made me even go further into, oh, and Billy's 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:36.579 going to win this fight, other than just the 00:05:36.579 --> 00:05:42.860 past evidence of Canelo's career. So the reason 00:05:42.860 --> 00:05:44.920 why you're picking Billy is not because of Billy, 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.370 but because of Canelo? Well, I mean, it's always 00:05:48.370 --> 00:05:50.129 going to be a mixture of both. But yeah, I mean, 00:05:50.170 --> 00:05:51.870 a lot of it is with Canelo. If this was prime 00:05:51.870 --> 00:05:55.660 Canelo, I would pick Canelo. This was... Canelo 00:05:55.660 --> 00:05:57.560 that fought Smith, I'd pick Canelo. This was 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.000 Canelo that fought Plant, I'd pick Canelo. That 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.600 part I'm open about. I get why people are saying 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:05.100 Canelo's going to win this fight. I get it as 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:08.790 far as what Canelo has been able to do at one 00:06:08.790 --> 00:06:10.709 point of his career. Yeah, I get that this is 00:06:10.709 --> 00:06:13.709 an opponent that he would have found shots and 00:06:13.709 --> 00:06:16.850 been devastating in the fight. But the problem, 00:06:16.970 --> 00:06:19.730 what I'm saying is the problem is it's not that 00:06:19.730 --> 00:06:22.490 Canelo. And I think that sometimes with the stars, 00:06:22.709 --> 00:06:25.110 just get used to just kind of... hey that guy's 00:06:25.110 --> 00:06:27.089 gonna win just because i've been seeing him for 00:06:27.089 --> 00:06:29.149 a long time he's been he's been one of the top 00:06:29.149 --> 00:06:31.149 guys for a long time and i'm just counting that 00:06:31.149 --> 00:06:33.189 that's performance is going to consistently happen 00:06:33.189 --> 00:06:36.310 um and and that's where you get these kind of 00:06:36.310 --> 00:06:39.709 upsets is because so so in your in your most 00:06:39.709 --> 00:06:45.740 valid opinion shout out my guy mbo alcud um when 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:50.389 did canelo stop being canelo i mean i think that 00:06:50.389 --> 00:06:52.990 canelo's been on decline pretty obviously uh 00:06:52.990 --> 00:06:56.110 since the john ryder fight I think the Ryder 00:06:56.110 --> 00:06:57.949 fight was a fight that he should have got that 00:06:57.949 --> 00:06:59.629 guy out of. Like, if we're talking about guys 00:06:59.629 --> 00:07:01.889 that were made for him to get out of there and 00:07:01.889 --> 00:07:04.629 look devastating against, Ryder's that guy. And 00:07:04.629 --> 00:07:08.129 that didn't happen. And then you go on a list 00:07:08.129 --> 00:07:10.410 of guys that have continuously been guys that 00:07:10.410 --> 00:07:11.490 he should have got out of there, should have 00:07:11.490 --> 00:07:12.889 looked devastating against, and he just didn't 00:07:12.889 --> 00:07:17.350 look that. Berlanga, Munguia. And, like, I understand 00:07:17.350 --> 00:07:18.730 the Skull Fight. One thing I understand about 00:07:18.730 --> 00:07:20.649 the Skull Fight, Skull moved. But, I mean, what 00:07:20.649 --> 00:07:22.790 the hell did it look like? Like, I know he usually 00:07:22.790 --> 00:07:24.470 looks stuck in the mud, but he looked absolutely 00:07:24.470 --> 00:07:26.410 stuck in the mud in that fight. Like, absolutely. 00:07:26.569 --> 00:07:29.129 Like, I can't even get close to you. Now, you're 00:07:29.129 --> 00:07:30.569 not doing anything, so I'm going to win a decision 00:07:30.569 --> 00:07:32.649 here, but I can't even do anything to, like, 00:07:32.670 --> 00:07:34.990 try to cut you off. Like, not one thing. Like, 00:07:34.990 --> 00:07:37.129 he was stuck in the mud. Now, the performances 00:07:37.129 --> 00:07:38.689 that we say, oh, like, we look pretty damn good 00:07:38.689 --> 00:07:40.629 in that, like the Charlo fight. Like, you know, 00:07:40.689 --> 00:07:43.410 he drops Charlo. Charlo's undersized. That's 00:07:43.410 --> 00:07:46.990 what that is. Do I think that if Canelo was a 00:07:46.990 --> 00:07:48.970 little bit more fresher and he had got Charlo? 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:52.100 before, right? I think he probably would do way 00:07:52.100 --> 00:07:53.519 more damage to him. But that's what I'm saying 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.199 is that he's not able to have these performances 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.259 that we keep expecting from him against a competition 00:07:59.259 --> 00:08:01.800 that isn't that great and really styles made 00:08:01.800 -->

00:08:04.459 for him. And it's just because of a decline. 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.660 It's just because he's not as sharp. There was 00:08:06.660 --> 00:08:08.920 one thing that Beardsmith said about his power. 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.500 It was really smart. He said that his power is 00:08:11.500 --> 00:08:14.399 his timing, right? Like he catches you when you 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.319 don't see it. He catches you when you don't expect 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.459 it. He catches you when you're missing and that 00:08:18.459 --> 00:08:21.449 increases his power. If that goes away, if his 00:08:21.449 --> 00:08:23.769 timing's off, then his power starts to go away. 00:08:24.149 --> 00:08:27.110 That's 100 % true. He doesn't have, like, ooh, 00:08:27.189 --> 00:08:29.589 I'm going to hit you. I disagree. I don't think 00:08:29.589 --> 00:08:35.279 his timing's off. I think you have the right 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.100 idea, but you landed the plane in the ocean. 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:42.960 I think what it is is not that his timing is 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:50.039 off. It's that he's a little bit slower. So they 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.879 can see it coming. That's not his timing. That's 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:58.700 just he's a little bit slower. No, that's not 00:08:58.700 --> 00:09:00.899 the same as timing. It is. It is the timing. 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:02.879 It's not the same as timing. No, no, it is the 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.179 same as timing because this is what they always 00:09:05.179 --> 00:09:07.840 talk about. It's not. Well, let me explain. As 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.039 a former boxer, I'm telling you it's not. I know. 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.539 Let me explain. When you get older, one thing 00:09:12.539 --> 00:09:14.080 happens when guys get older. And let's say you 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.700 take a gap in your career before last time you 00:09:16.700 --> 00:09:19.740 fought, right? And you go to the gym. right and 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:21.879 you haven't been in the ring a long time and 00:09:22.299 --> 00:09:24.399 you go you go to the you go to the gym and go 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.320 and hit the pads your speed is safe it slows 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:30.240 down a lot of times guys don't catch that right 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.139 as far as just training hitting the pads because 00:09:32.139 --> 00:09:34.000 the the guy that's holding the mitts is making 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:35.799 up for that speed so you still feel like i'm 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.340 still catching at the right spot but you're not 00:09:37.340 --> 00:09:39.299 the guy is catching you faster than you're catching 00:09:39.299 --> 00:09:41.399 him or he's coming down more than you used to 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.139 right and you're not you don't see it then when 00:09:43.139 --> 00:09:45.139 you get to a fight and your your speed's off 00:09:45.139 --> 00:09:46.940 and you're so throws your timing off because 00:09:46.940 --> 00:09:49.250 you say oh i would usually land that but something's 00:09:49.250 --> 00:09:51.289 off it's i'm not my timing's off so then your 00:09:51.289 --> 00:09:53.830 brain starts second guessing your timing because 00:09:53.830 --> 00:09:56.009 you're the speed that you used to have that when 00:09:56.009 --> 00:09:57.429 you used to set up the timing when you would 00:09:57.429 --> 00:09:59.409 usually say oh he's here i'm going to respond 00:09:59.409 --> 00:10:01.929 at this point is off and once that throne's off 00:10:01.929 --> 00:10:04.129 your brain starts to say you start to doubt yourself 00:10:04.129 --> 00:10:05.850 you start holding back what you're going to do 00:10:05.850 --> 00:10:07.590 you're not you're not reacting anymore you're 00:10:07.590 --> 00:10:08.870 not just fighting now you're in your head yeah 00:10:08.870 --> 00:10:11.330 but canelo hasn't reached that point at all well 00:10:11.330 --> 00:10:13.450 let me connect what can i say but the one thing 00:10:13.450 --> 00:10:15.970 he has reached is that we're ever going to talk 00:10:15.970 --> 00:10:19.320 yes go ahead You're right. You're correct. You 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.779 know what? I'm going to listen. This is an open 00:10:21.779 --> 00:10:23.639 dialogue here. So, yes, I'm going to listen. 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.629 What I'm saying is that maybe they can see the 00:10:27.629 --> 00:10:30.990 shots coming, so they can break for it and take 00:10:30.990 --> 00:10:33.350 the shot better. But he's not missing the shots 00:10:33.350 --> 00:10:37.610 that he used to take. He's still hitting them 00:10:37.610 --> 00:10:40.409 the way that he knocked down Belanga. He knocked 00:10:40.409 --> 00:10:45.169 down Munguia. He knocked down Charlo. He's knocking 00:10:45.169 --> 00:10:51.169 these guys down. The problem is he just hasn't 00:10:51.169 --> 00:10:54.190 finished them the way that he used to. And if 00:10:54.190 --> 00:10:58.559 we're being honest, was Canelo ever that really 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.799 good of a finisher? Never an elite finisher, 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:06.440 no. Yeah, so he was never that. But he could 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:11.879 get a decision, a wild decision, against all 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.870 of these guys with no problem. So the decline 00:11:14.870 --> 00:11:16.509 that you're seeing, I don't think the decline 00:11:16.509 --> 00:11:19.330 is as massive as you make it seem because he 00:11:19.330 --> 00:11:22.970 is still getting dominating victories over these 00:11:22.970 --> 00:11:26.730 guys. And I think today is going to be no exception. 00:11:27.110 --> 00:11:30.330 He's going to get a dominating victory over Christian 00:11:30.330 --> 00:11:34.830 and Billy. Okay. I mean, like I said, I understand 00:11:34.830 --> 00:11:39.000 the logic. I'm just saying is I do think it's 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.340 a timing issue. But one thing that you said, 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:42.710 you knocked all

these guys down. I agree. And 00:11:42.710 --> 00:11:44.629 he knocked them all down early when he was freshest, 00:11:44.649 --> 00:11:46.149 right? So that's when he was at his fastest. 00:11:46.429 --> 00:11:47.970 That was when he was at his speed. Now, when 00:11:47.970 --> 00:11:49.809 his second half, we know that he declined. We 00:11:49.809 --> 00:11:52.629 all know that. And it's been a bigger decline 00:11:52.629 --> 00:11:54.289 than usual. Because we know that Canelo's, like, 00:11:54.309 --> 00:11:55.870 always never been really, like, a second -half 00:11:55.870 --> 00:11:58.529 fighter. But it was a bigger decline than usual. 00:11:58.750 --> 00:12:01.909 And he's starting to push punches. And he is 00:12:01.909 --> 00:12:05.330 not moving away from punches as he once did, 00:12:05.409 --> 00:12:08.470 at the best point as he once did. And what I'm 00:12:08.470 --> 00:12:10.269 saying is I get you that he is beating these 00:12:10.269 --> 00:12:12.580 guys. But beating Berlinga by decision is not 00:12:12.580 --> 00:12:15.019 overly impressive for a world championship level 00:12:15.019 --> 00:12:18.120 fighter. Beating Munguia by decision to me is 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.240 not overly impressive for a world championship 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.620 level fighter. And beating undersized Charlo, 00:12:23.779 --> 00:12:26.559 being scolded, didn't throw a punch in the fight. 00:12:26.820 --> 00:12:29.879 Yeah, okay, yes, he's beating those guys. But 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.519 those guys versus other top competition in the 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.320 division are getting destroyed. We're getting 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.200 destroyed. So you can't just eliminate that. 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:38.879 You can't just say, oh, well, that's just the 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:40.960 way he fights. No, no, no. I mean, they're getting 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.700 destroyed. They're getting obliterated. It doesn't 00:12:43.700 --> 00:12:49.159 matter. It doesn't matter. Because Manny Pacquiao 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:54.100 destroyed Oscar De La Hoya. Floyd Mayweather 00:12:54.100 --> 00:12:57.279 got a decision against him. Manny Pacquiao destroyed 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:00.559 Ricky Hatton. Floyd Mayweather had to stop him 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:05.029 late. Okay? It's just a different style of fighter 00:13:05.029 --> 00:13:08.809 that doesn't mean that all of a sudden all this 00:13:08.809 --> 00:13:12.110 guy He's declined so much or this guy so much 00:13:12.110 --> 00:13:14.309 better because he stopped the guy that canella 00:13:14.309 --> 00:13:16.830 went to this with that doesn't matter That's 00:13:16.830 --> 00:13:20.509 just that's just that's just stylistic No, no, 00:13:20.529 --> 00:13:22.669 it's not stylistic. And it's a bad example because 00:13:26.009 --> 00:13:29.250 I mean, we got to be able to know that that was 00:13:29.250 --> 00:13:32.429 a drained. Yeah. And you know what? The egg of 00:13:32.429 --> 00:13:34.669 Belanga, that for Hamza Shiraz, is not the same 00:13:34.669 --> 00:13:38.470 egg of Belanga that for Canelo. Oh, I think it 00:13:38.470 --> 00:13:41.409 was. What would be the difference? The difference 00:13:41.409 --> 00:13:44.370 was Canelo cracked that egg, put him on his ass. 00:13:44.590 --> 00:13:46.190 Oh, he cracked that egg. He cracked that yolk. 00:13:46.789 --> 00:13:49.389 Once that egg gets cracked, it's a lot easier. 00:13:49.889 --> 00:13:55.139 Come on, man. You gotta crack the egg. You didn't 00:13:55.139 --> 00:13:56.899 crack the egg. What are you talking about? It 00:13:56.899 --> 00:14:01.460 was a decision. He put him on his back pocket. 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:03.700 What do you mean? One time. And if you look, 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.480 Berlanga's not out of it. He's not even close 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.580 to being finished. Bro, Berlanga started doing 00:14:08.580 --> 00:14:10.899 the monkey with the symbol thing. That's where 00:14:10.899 --> 00:14:14.759 we saw that debut at. What do you mean? That's 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:16.860 an insane thing to say that Canelo cracked the 00:14:16.860 --> 00:14:18.690 egg of Berlanga. He did. When he didn't even 00:14:18.690 --> 00:14:20.789 get out of it. And he dropped him really on a 00:14:20.789 --> 00:14:22.409 flash knockdown. I mean, let's be honest with 00:14:22.409 --> 00:14:24.269 it. It wasn't like, oh, he's almost out. He's 00:14:24.269 --> 00:14:25.830 almost out of his feet. It wasn't even like that. 00:14:26.429 --> 00:14:28.169 As soon as Berlinga hit the ground, he knew exactly 00:14:28.169 --> 00:14:29.750 where he was at. He just hit like, oh, I got 00:14:29.750 --> 00:14:31.850 caught. So there's no way because they cracked 00:14:31.850 --> 00:14:35.230 the egg. So that's ridiculous. That was ridiculous. 00:14:35.389 --> 00:14:37.889 Also, the hand that fought Packer wasn't even 00:14:37.889 --> 00:14:41.419 the same hand that fought Floyd. Wait, wait, 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.409 wait. Why wasn't it? Well, first of all, he was 00:14:44.409 --> 00:14:46.690 the hand trying to learn Floyd Mayweather's style. 00:14:47.710 --> 00:14:52.490 That was a huge flaw. Hey, Hatton, you know everything 00:14:52.490 --> 00:14:54.750 you're good at? Let's change it up. Yeah, no, 00:14:54.889 --> 00:14:57.429 I don't think that's it. But you're right. You 00:14:57.429 --> 00:14:59.309 know, styles will lead to different things. So, 00:14:59.330 --> 00:15:02.470 like, of course, Hatton's openings against Pacquiao 00:15:02.470 --> 00:15:05.529 are way more risky. But like I said, I still 00:15:05.529 --> 00:15:06.929 think that Hatton had fought Floyd was still, 00:15:06.970 --> 00:15:09.730 to me, a better fighter, maybe a fresher fighter. 00:15:09.830 --> 00:15:12.090 And actually, Floyd actually did crack the egg. 00:15:12.210 --> 00:15:14.309 So if you want to use that argument, Floyd did 00:15:14.309 --> 00:15:16.830 crack the egg with Hatton. Yeah,

he cracked the 00:15:16.830 --> 00:15:23.470 egg also. It happens. It happens. But we'll see 00:15:23.470 --> 00:15:26.970 today. You said Canelo looks to be in great shape. 00:15:27.820 --> 00:15:32.759 I think we saw the herpes is back on the lip. 00:15:33.509 --> 00:15:37.809 On Canelo. For some reason, he gets this little 00:15:37.809 --> 00:15:41.090 bump on his lip every time he's in tip -top rip 00:15:41.090 --> 00:15:45.990 shape. And I think that he... He's gonna be I 00:15:45.990 --> 00:15:51.210 was thinking about this and sometimes you know 00:15:51.210 --> 00:15:52.809 when getting these arguments you gotta get like 00:15:52.809 --> 00:15:55.110 stuck in your opinion And you start defending 00:15:55.110 --> 00:15:57.570 it to like an extreme amount. I think this is 00:15:57.570 --> 00:16:00.070 a great fight I think this is gonna be like a 00:16:00.070 --> 00:16:02.490 really back -and -forth fight I think I'm Billy's 00:16:02.490 --> 00:16:04.669 gonna get the better of it in this and I think 00:16:04.669 --> 00:16:06.950 I'm busy get the better it but I think that like 00:16:06.950 --> 00:16:09.990 At worst right like we're gonna get a really 00:16:09.990 --> 00:16:11.830 really really competitive fight. I think this 00:16:11.830 --> 00:16:14.879 might be A sneaky candidate for fight of the 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:22.350 year. I don't know about that. Well, I mean, 00:16:22.429 --> 00:16:24.509 I think it'll be knockout of the year. I don't 00:16:24.509 --> 00:16:26.409 know about fight of the year. Bro, all right, 00:16:26.409 --> 00:16:36.700 all right. If Mbili knocks out Canelo, does that 00:16:36.700 --> 00:16:39.320 automatically make a knockout of the year? If 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:43.740 Mbili knocks out Canelo. Absolutely. Right? And 00:16:43.740 --> 00:16:45.379 if it's not the final hire, you've got to see 00:16:45.379 --> 00:16:47.789 the knockout. What do you mean? Bro, but like, 00:16:47.809 --> 00:16:50.590 is there, okay, here's the thing. The thing is, 00:16:50.610 --> 00:16:53.110 I'm interpreting Ezra's question literally. I'm 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:56.149 not taking his question as if he knocks out Ganelo 00:16:56.149 --> 00:16:59.309 as if he stops him. I'm taking that question 00:16:59.309 --> 00:17:02.190 as if he knocks out Ganelo. Yeah, and I do think 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:04.869 that there is something, I understand the look 00:17:04.869 --> 00:17:06.890 of it, but I also think there's something too 00:17:06.890 --> 00:17:08.670 to be like, when you crack a chin that's never 00:17:08.670 --> 00:17:11.109 been cracked. If you break a shield that's ever 00:17:11.109 --> 00:17:13.970 been broken. Right? Like, there's something to 00:17:13.970 --> 00:17:15.829 that that I think that we have to weigh in sometimes 00:17:15.829 --> 00:17:20.730 when I come here. I see the Christian and Billy 00:17:20.730 --> 00:17:23.190 Army is filling up the chat today. They are. 00:17:24.940 --> 00:17:31.440 Let's go. All right. All right. We'll do a comprehensive 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.099 breakdown of this in the middle of the show. 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.680 Let's talk the heavyweight division or the cruiserweight 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.299 division. I can't tell anymore because according 00:17:41.299 --> 00:17:47.869 to... Mike from Ring Magazine, he claims that 00:17:47.869 --> 00:17:52.769 Oleksandr Usyk is contemplating going back down 00:17:52.769 --> 00:17:56.910 to Cruiserweight to fight David Benavidez. And 00:17:56.910 --> 00:17:58.789 before I even ask you about it, Ezra, I just 00:17:58.789 --> 00:18:02.730 want to say this. This is one of the dumbest 00:18:02.730 --> 00:18:07.589 ideas I have ever heard in boxing. And it just 00:18:07.589 --> 00:18:11.589 shows how stupid... First of all, how stupid 00:18:11.589 --> 00:18:14.910 Mike Coffinger is for even reporting this, okay? 00:18:15.130 --> 00:18:18.369 Because I don't think it's happening. And it 00:18:18.369 --> 00:18:22.630 also shows how stupid boxing is, that this is 00:18:22.630 --> 00:18:25.809 even a story. Ezra, what's your thoughts on this 00:18:25.809 --> 00:18:29.289 whole Usyk to cruise away things to fight Benavidez? 00:18:29.710 --> 00:18:33.369 Yeah, it didn't make sense to me. Also, I would 00:18:33.369 --> 00:18:35.329 think it would be a really dumb move by Usyk, 00:18:35.430 --> 00:18:37.609 right? Because I personally don't think Usyk 00:18:37.609 --> 00:18:39.589 probably can't make it that way anymore. And 00:18:39.589 --> 00:18:43.349 not healthy, not in a healthy way. And I don't 00:18:43.349 --> 00:18:45.890 see why this fight wouldn't be, make more sense. 00:18:46.190 --> 00:18:49.509 Obviously a heavyweight. It would have the, you 00:18:49.509 --> 00:18:51.329 would, I would think that if you make this fight 00:18:51.329 --> 00:18:53.730 and you get rid of the heavyweight name to it, 00:18:53.769 --> 00:18:56.349 like it really, to me, it's a big blow of like 00:18:56.349 --> 00:18:59.809 the promotion of it all. So I think that it sounds 00:18:59.809 --> 00:19:01.769 like nonsense to me. It sounds like if they make 00:19:01.769 --> 00:19:03.849 this fight, it should be a heavyweight. I think 00:19:03.849 --> 00:19:05.819 that. I don't think Benavidez will have a problem 00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:07.079 going heavyweight, so I don't think it's even 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.599 that thing. Now, maybe does Usyk think it means 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:11.920 more if he gets undisputed again at Cruiserweight 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.200 and Benavidez has that? But there's also a lot 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.059 of, that's like also some steps to get to that 00:19:16.059 --> 00:19:18.279 point, right? Yeah, I don't know. It just sounds 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:19.880 like nonsense to me. I think that the two students 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:22.400 fighting heavyweight, that's the obvious decision 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:27.650 to me if I was promoting it. You know, you

sound 00:19:27.650 --> 00:19:31.670 just as dumb as the report. You're talking about, 00:19:31.869 --> 00:19:33.769 oh, you don't know if he can make the weight. 00:19:33.769 --> 00:19:36.609 Bro, who cares if he can make the weight? there's 00:19:36.609 --> 00:19:39.980 nothing in this for Benavidez. What is there 00:19:39.980 --> 00:19:42.839 for Benavidez if this comes back down, if Usyk 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.680 comes back down a cruiser? They're going to say 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:47.599 that you beat an old, drained fighter? No, he 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:50.579 would want this at heavyweight. That's the order 00:19:50.579 --> 00:19:52.920 that says that. You want to be able to call yourself 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.000 the heavyweight champion of the world. Because 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.279 at the end of the day, whether or not Usyk has 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:59.680 the sanction of Bobby Bells, he is still the 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.500 lineal heavyweight champion of the world, and 00:20:01.500 --> 00:20:04.700 he is looked at as the heavyweight champion of 00:20:04.700 --> 00:20:08.670 the world. So, why, why, it wouldn't be, it's 00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:14.509 not a thing. It's just not a thing. What, what, 00:20:14.589 --> 00:20:17.049 Ezra? You're wrong about one thing here, though. 00:20:17.349 --> 00:20:19.069 I'm not wrong about anything. I'm never wrong. 00:20:19.289 --> 00:20:21.490 You are. And this is the thing that we get stuck 00:20:21.490 --> 00:20:24.029 in. We talk about, like, people that... Hold 00:20:24.029 --> 00:20:27.150 on, hold on, hold on. Put up Kay, put up Kay 00:20:27.150 --> 00:20:30.630 Gunner's comment. See, this is the stupidity 00:20:30.630 --> 00:20:33.710 that pissed me off in boxing. Ducking that over 00:20:33.710 --> 00:20:36.230 tired smoke. What the fuck are you talking about? 00:20:36.869 --> 00:20:40.450 What are you talking about? How would Olejana 00:20:40.450 --> 00:20:44.970 Usyk pursue the David Benavidez fight mean that 00:20:44.970 --> 00:20:48.190 David Benavidez is Dr. Opataya's foe? Does that 00:20:48.190 --> 00:20:51.470 make sense to you? How did that make sense to 00:20:51.470 --> 00:20:55.160 you, K -Gunner? Explain to me how that makes 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.299 sense. Matter of fact, somebody drop the link 00:20:57.299 --> 00:21:00.720 for this fucking guy. Let him get on here and 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.200 explain that stupid comment. It's a stupid comment. 00:21:06.019 --> 00:21:08.480 Bro, Benavidez ain't ducking, dodging nobody. 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:10.759 He's already shown that he's willing to fight 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:13.259 everybody. He's already shown that he's willing 00:21:13.259 --> 00:21:18.069 to do that. Now we talking nonsense. Can I go 00:21:18.069 --> 00:21:20.890 now? Yeah, go. Just go, man. Go, please. I'm 00:21:20.890 --> 00:21:23.789 going to keep arguing with K -Gunner. Go. Listen. 00:21:24.670 --> 00:21:27.029 one thing we get stuck in like the mind frame 00:21:27.029 --> 00:21:29.490 of people that watch boxing as much as us or 00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:31.210 or pay attention to boxing as much as us and 00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:32.630 we say oh well the people are gonna care because 00:21:32.630 --> 00:21:34.269 he's the cruiserweight he dragged around bro 00:21:34.269 --> 00:21:35.789 the general audience they're gonna give a damn 00:21:35.789 --> 00:21:37.410 about any of that they're gonna be like hey let's 00:21:37.410 --> 00:21:39.569 all seek who's gonna beat joshua who's gonna 00:21:39.569 --> 00:21:41.309 be the wall and he beat fury now he's fighting 00:21:41.309 --> 00:21:44.230 the uh benavides no one no one's thinking well 00:21:44.230 --> 00:21:45.769 he drained him down he brought him down it's 00:21:45.769 --> 00:21:48.369 like sometimes sometimes that that doesn't matter 00:21:48.369 --> 00:21:50.869 if it feels like he could make the weight and 00:21:50.869 --> 00:21:54.000 like if she'll lose with the fight look like 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.220 michael jackson thriller people are going to 00:21:56.220 --> 00:22:00.240 know that people are going to care the one thing 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:02.440 i agree with 100 it's a bigger fight i agree 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:04.319 with you on that it means it would it stands 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.000 out more at heavyweight and i i think that uh 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.839 i don't think lucy will go who's just talking 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:10.279 about going down before but i don't really think 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.529 he'll do it yeah i think i'm more on on matt's 00:22:13.529 --> 00:22:14.990 side like as far as just what the fight means 00:22:14.990 --> 00:22:17.559 and everything but I mean, we were talking about 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:18.940 it in the space yesterday, Ezra, and I made the 00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:22.319 same point. The casual fan doesn't really understand 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:24.059 the weight classes and stuff. They're going to 00:22:24.059 --> 00:22:26.140 understand that Usyk's a champion. He was a champion 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:28.079 at cruiserweight before because they're going 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.619 to bill it that way. And most of the general 00:22:30.619 --> 00:22:33.940 public outside of the actual boxing fans aren't 00:22:33.940 --> 00:22:41.369 going to care. Yeah, I agree. But I do agree 00:22:41.369 --> 00:22:44.140 with you in the fact that... Why would you take 00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:46.180 that fight outside of just the name recognition 00:22:46.180 --> 00:22:48.519 that you get from the people that are outside 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.779 of the sport and the money? Because if you're 00:22:51.779 --> 00:22:54.569 not making that fight at heavyweight, it doesn't 00:22:54.569 --> 00:22:58.730 really do much for Benavidez critically. It really 00:22:58.730 --> 00:23:00.329 doesn't because the people who are ranking him 00:23:00.329 --> 00:23:02.730 are going to

consider the fact that Usyk was 00:23:02.730 --> 00:23:05.509 drained at cruiserweight. I just think that if 00:23:05.509 --> 00:23:07.069 you play heavyweight on the poster, it just looks 00:23:07.069 --> 00:23:09.099 better. That's just the truth of it. It's just 00:23:09.099 --> 00:23:11.299 a heavyweight fight. Benavidez is back at heavyweight 00:23:11.299 --> 00:23:12.819 fighting the best heavyweight in the world that 00:23:12.819 --> 00:23:15.349 we have right now. I think that's just the way, 00:23:15.369 --> 00:23:16.670 the selling point, like, that's just the way 00:23:16.670 --> 00:23:19.890 it is. All right. Also in the heavyweight division, 00:23:20.829 --> 00:23:26.650 I'm hearing that the Opataya Wilder fight is 00:23:26.650 --> 00:23:29.910 done. Oh, wow. That's a great fight. Oh, man, 00:23:29.930 --> 00:23:36.119 that's a fun fight. I love that fight. So is 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:41.579 John Opataya ducking David Benavidez more? That's 00:23:41.579 --> 00:23:43.670 funny. I don't know. That's a good fight, man. 00:23:43.750 --> 00:23:45.329 That's a hell of a fight. I'm really excited 00:23:45.329 --> 00:23:49.420 for that fight. You're excited for that fight 00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:51.500 because you think, you know, I ain't going to 00:23:51.500 --> 00:23:54.619 say what you think. But let's just say you won't 00:23:54.619 --> 00:23:57.240 be invited to the Bomb Squad dinner. You're saying 00:23:57.240 --> 00:23:58.660 that I'm going to pick over Tyler to win that 00:23:58.660 --> 00:24:04.640 fight. I know you are. I know you are. Can I 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.589 break some news right now? Yeah. I'm picking 00:24:07.589 --> 00:24:09.549 over Tyler to win that fight. Yeah, I know. I 00:24:09.549 --> 00:24:12.130 know. Tyler to win that fight. I know. Hey, listen. 00:24:12.829 --> 00:24:15.400 We're all entitled to be wrong. Hey, that's true. 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:21.250 This is true. Clarissa Turkios says that Wilder 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:25.609 getting cooked. You know what? Hey, Clarissa. 00:24:26.500 --> 00:24:28.700 Clarissa, I don't know if you're a guy or a girl, 00:24:28.819 --> 00:24:32.680 but put your money where your mouth is. I want 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:38.240 you to bring your ass on this show and you tell 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.779 me, you tell me, Clarissa, why Wilder getting 00:24:41.779 --> 00:24:45.380 cooked. Can I tell you? No, I want to hear from 00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:48.160 Clarissa. I want to hear from Clarissa. I don't 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:49.460 want to hear from you. I hear from you all the 00:24:49.460 --> 00:24:51.619 time. I'm not talking about that. Now, the comments, 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.799 they're only up for like a second. Could they 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:59.630 stay up there longer anyway? Are you criticizing 00:24:59.630 --> 00:25:01.890 our producer? No, no. I don't know if it's just 00:25:01.890 --> 00:25:03.190 because if you click it, it only stays up as 00:25:03.190 --> 00:25:06.549 long. No, no, no. It might be how it's being 00:25:06.549 --> 00:25:07.789 displayed to you because I usually keep them 00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:11.069 up for like five, seven seconds. Oh, okay. Here, 00:25:11.470 --> 00:25:13.849 look. I'll keep the comment up there for you. 00:25:13.910 --> 00:25:16.650 Is that better? There you go. You just want to 00:25:16.650 --> 00:25:18.210 read while they're getting cooked. Is that what 00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:21.349 you want? I see them and then I'm like, they're 00:25:21.349 --> 00:25:24.480 gone right away. And I'm like, okay. Well, okay. 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.059 Well, you see, you're still there. You happy 00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:29.869 now? Can I take the comment off now? You can 00:25:29.869 --> 00:25:32.569 take it off. Thank you. Also, Kay Gunna responded 00:25:32.569 --> 00:25:34.529 saying he knew that was going to trigger you 00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:39.029 with some laughing emojis. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. 00:25:40.309 --> 00:25:45.710 Whatever. Yeah I'm really about to add this show. 00:25:46.029 --> 00:25:47.970 Amen. Don't forget to like comment share and 00:25:47.970 --> 00:25:52.269 some more people in the in the chat They're really 00:25:52.269 --> 00:25:55.180 pissing me off today. I gotta tell you but uh, 00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:59.119 yeah, so If this fight gets done, I'm hearing 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.380 it is done and that is going to be done in Wales 00:26:02.380 --> 00:26:06.730 on the Joshua fury undercard Your favorite open 00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:12.890 tire, please tell the people why? the parker 00:26:12.890 --> 00:26:16.509 fight and and i think of uh wilder having a hard 00:26:16.509 --> 00:26:20.440 time uh uh getting his shots off against a guy 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:22.559 like parker who was looking to move around and 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.619 i think that was high will follow a similar style 00:26:24.619 --> 00:26:28.900 to that obviously is obviously like the more 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:31.000 fresher fighter um he's going up in weight i 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.720 understand that and he's never been hit by a 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.279 man like wilder but there's a chance that he 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.599 doesn't get hit by a man like wilder like that's 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.700 that's i think that's honestly probably what 00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:40.660 i'm betting on is that he just really doesn't 00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:43.619 get touched by wilder And, well, he's able to 00:26:43.619 --> 00:26:46.660 avoid a really clean shot from Wilder. He's able 00:26:46.660 --> 00:26:49.539 to avoid the stuff like Parker basically was. 00:26:50.220 --> 00:26:54.849 That's the way I kind of see this fight. What 00:26:54.849 --> 00:26:59.039 has Jaupataya ever avoided a shot? Listen, on 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.099 the inside, I think he has some defensive holes. 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:04.799 But I think on the outside, he could move around

00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.839 and be a little elusive. He wasn't elusive against 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.759 the Wilder McCallion, who landed right hand after 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:12.839 right hand on him. Yeah, that was on the inside. 00:27:13.019 --> 00:27:16.599 And McCallion's not very good. My failure was 00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.039 struggling with Badu Jack, who's 100 years old. 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.240 I got you. And he looked a little bit sluggish 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.519 that night, I thought. Well, John Obataia is 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:30.779 incredibly slow. He's incredibly slow. Now, the 00:27:30.779 --> 00:27:34.200 question is, is being slow at cruiserweight the 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.769 same as fighting at heavyweight? Does that mean 00:27:37.769 --> 00:27:39.410 he's naturally going to be quicker at heavyweight 00:27:39.410 --> 00:27:41.529 just because he's moving up to heavyweight? I 00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:44.450 don't know. What I do know is that Wilder still 00:27:44.450 --> 00:27:48.579 has his quickness. Wilder is not slow. Wilder 00:27:48.579 --> 00:27:51.079 still has his quickness. And you keep worrying 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:55.960 about Wilder pulling the trigger. Wilder, to 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:01.240 me, one of his issues was turning over his punches. 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:09.410 But that was due to an injury that he got taken 00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:21.809 care of. exactly exactly hey hey make it happen 00:28:21.809 --> 00:28:28.319 because i'll tell you right now um if over time 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.500 it goes through this wilder fight he's not making 00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:38.400 it to the benavidez fight let's go to like heavyweight 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:44.410 uh dimitri b -ball his fight against calvin smith 00:28:44.410 --> 00:28:51.869 is getting nearer and nearer and closer. What's 00:28:51.869 --> 00:28:56.640 your buzz level for this fight? None at all, 00:28:56.700 --> 00:29:00.980 I would say. None at all. I don't know. I've 00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:03.299 seen Smith by being at this level so many times. 00:29:03.539 --> 00:29:07.819 I don't think he's close to his prime or whatever. 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.640 It's like a guy that's literally like, what if 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.519 he lands type of situation? And I don't think 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.740 he's going to land against Bavall. I don't think 00:29:16.740 --> 00:29:19.519 Bavall's going to allow that. And it doesn't 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.339 seem like that's building to another bigger fight. 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.240 So Zayn doesn't even have that. A lot of times, 00:29:23.259 --> 00:29:25.299 if you have a fight that I don't care about, 00:29:25.380 --> 00:29:26.599 but it leads to a bigger fight, maybe I still 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:27.940 pay attention to it. Maybe I still get some buzz 00:29:27.940 --> 00:29:29.619 for it because I want to see it. It doesn't seem 00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:32.559 like

it's leading to anything. So then it's just 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.680 a fight happening that I think is a big mismatch. 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:40.420 And I'm not really interested in seeing it. I 00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:42.259 don't think it's a big mismatch. I think it's 00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:45.420 going to be an interesting fight. I think Kyle 00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:51.529 Smith, hopefully, comes to win. We'll see What 00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:53.730 type of fight is it then I mean you say I don't 00:29:53.730 --> 00:29:55.230 think it's a big mismatch they give you the percentage 00:29:55.230 --> 00:29:58.990 That's your gimmick. That's your gimmick. I don't 00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:00.710 do the type fight gimmick. That's your gimmick 00:30:00.710 --> 00:30:04.230 Leave that to you. We'll leave your gimmicks 00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:08.789 and your graphics to you. Okay A lot of people 00:30:08.789 --> 00:30:10.750 talk but no one wants to put a number on it A 00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:12.670 lot of people talk but they don't want to put 00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:16.700 a number on it Alright, we'll get to the 168 00:30:16.700 --> 00:30:19.950 pound division when we talk about Canelo and 00:30:19.950 --> 00:30:22.990 Billy again. Let's go to the 160 -pound division. 00:30:23.650 --> 00:30:29.869 Denzel Bentley officially stripped of his WBO 00:30:29.869 --> 00:30:34.329 160 -pound title because he refused to fight 00:30:34.329 --> 00:30:39.049 Yoel Hernandez. Did the WBO make the right decision? 00:30:40.470 --> 00:30:44.109 Yeah. Of course that wasn't going to happen. 00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:46.980 Hey, you guys called this fight. We went to a 00:30:46.980 --> 00:30:49.539 first bid. It happened. I'm not doing it. Let 00:30:49.539 --> 00:30:51.839 me keep my belt. No, no, no, no, no. Take that 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.400 belt from me. That was a stupid idea. I don't 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:58.339 even know why we wasted our time with it. They 00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:02.250 made the right move. Yeah, it was 100 % the right 00:31:02.250 --> 00:31:04.869 move. I just find it funny that Denzel Bentley 00:31:04.869 --> 00:31:07.170 was on Twitter trying to get the Twitter mob 00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:10.250 on his side. Oh, I wonder what's going on with 00:31:10.250 --> 00:31:12.970 the WBO. All of a sudden, they call my mandatory. 00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:17.589 What are you talking about, bro? Here's the thing, 00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:21.750 right? And these fighters, these fighters got 00:31:21.750 --> 00:31:26.470 to stop being idiots, okay? Because what was 00:31:26.470 --> 00:31:28.609 the fight that Denzel Bentley claimed he was 00:31:28.609 --> 00:31:30.829 going to get? He claimed he was going to get 00:31:30.829 --> 00:31:34.390 a unification bout against Aaron McKenna, who 00:31:34.390 --> 00:31:37.869 was also a Zufa fighter. But the fight that you 00:31:37.869 --> 00:31:41.089 presented to WBO is you versus Shane Mosley Jr. 00:31:42.390 --> 00:31:45.990 Why the hell would the WBO approve that? Now, 00:31:46.009 --> 00:31:52.130 if you really wanted to keep that belt, you would 00:31:52.130 --> 00:31:55.630 have presented a unification bout, signed to 00:31:55.630 --> 00:31:57.769 deliver Denzel Bentley versus Aaron McKenna. 00:31:57.910 --> 00:32:01.890 But you know why he didn't do that? Because the 00:32:01.890 --> 00:32:04.609 fight was never really happening. And they were 00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:06.430 just trying to put that out there publicly to 00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:09.549 make it look like the WBO is being heavy handed 00:32:09.549 --> 00:32:14.430 with them. And it did not work. It did not work. 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.819 None of these guys, none of these Zufa boxing 00:32:17.819 --> 00:32:20.480 guys fights an opponent worth a damn in their 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.029 first Zufa boxing fight. None of them. So why 00:32:24.029 --> 00:32:27.049 was this going to be any different? Yeah, I will 00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:28.730 say this, though. I do think that if you're a 00:32:28.730 --> 00:32:31.349 champion, I do think a mandatory is calling right 00:32:31.349 --> 00:32:34.569 away, though. I am a little bit. Who cares what 00:32:34.569 --> 00:32:37.769 you think? I know you don't buy it. Who cares 00:32:37.769 --> 00:32:42.529 what you think, bro? The WBC just bypassed their 00:32:42.529 --> 00:32:49.130 own. ruling with Carlos Adamez to approve his 00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:52.529 Zupa Boxer fight. They had just, they bypassed 00:32:52.529 --> 00:32:54.430 their own ruling. So what are you even talking 00:32:54.430 --> 00:32:56.609 about? Well, I mean, Adamez is, I mean, he's 00:32:56.609 --> 00:33:00.089 been pretty low at the WBC, so I mean. So tell 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:04.069 me what your point is there. I'm just saying 00:33:04.069 --> 00:33:06.470 in most cases, now don't use just one example. 00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:11.609 So in the cases that it happens. But not in the 00:33:11.609 --> 00:33:14.609 case that it don't happen. You're full of shit. 00:33:15.089 --> 00:33:17.029 Adamas has been a good soldier for WBC for a 00:33:17.029 --> 00:33:18.869 long time. Yeah, it happens in the cases that 00:33:18.869 --> 00:33:21.390 it happens. It doesn't happen in the cases that 00:33:21.390 --> 00:33:24.349 it don't happen. Either way, you're right. Either 00:33:24.349 --> 00:33:26.769 way, you're right, Ezra. You're right, buddy. 00:33:27.029 --> 00:33:29.849 No. Either way, you're right, buddy. And I think 00:33:29.849 --> 00:33:32.150 Adamas is a special example because... He was 00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:33.650 loyal through the whole time of the Charles situation 00:33:33.650 --> 00:33:35.109 where they didn't move him up and they just had 00:33:35.109 --> 00:33:37.630 him as an interim. He never complained, no nothing. 00:33:37.809 --> 00:33:39.950 There was even a podcast where it was built for 00:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.150 him to complain. And he said, no, I'm good.

I'm 00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:45.470 good where I'm at. I've never seen that podcast. 00:33:45.750 --> 00:33:49.450 I know, but I did. And I think they're pretty 00:33:49.450 --> 00:33:51.609 loyal to Adames. I think they like Adames. They'll 00:33:51.609 --> 00:33:54.480 work with Adames. All right, speaking of Adames, 00:33:54.500 --> 00:33:58.119 he's going to be defending his WBC belt against 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:05.109 Jerome Warburton. What the fuck? Yeah, I don't 00:34:05.109 --> 00:34:08.739 know what that is. I don't know what that is. 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.460 You know, some people tell me, you know, it's 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:14.440 funny. I don't think that's a good fight. Now, 00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:15.980 I don't know that because I don't know who it 00:34:15.980 --> 00:34:18.219 is. And people say, well, you've never seen him. 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.110 So how can you say that? I hate. Sometimes you've 00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:23.369 got to get me by the poster. The poster should 00:34:23.369 --> 00:34:25.329 win me in. I should see the poster and be like, 00:34:25.349 --> 00:34:27.429 hey, that's a good fight. And this will do it 00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:29.250 by the poster. So I think as a promoter, that's 00:34:29.250 --> 00:34:32.849 a bad job. If you don't draw me in by the poster, 00:34:32.969 --> 00:34:34.170 then I'm sorry. If you're telling me you've got 00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:37.170 to wait to see this, no, no, no, no, no. I'm 00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:42.510 sorry. Jerome Warburton is an area -level British 00:34:42.510 --> 00:34:45.570 fighter. Not even domestic level. He's an area 00:34:45.570 --> 00:34:47.369 -level British fighter. What if he lives in a 00:34:47.369 --> 00:34:51.190 tough area? He still can't win on a domestic 00:34:51.190 --> 00:34:54.190 level. Just saying. He still can't win on a domestic 00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:57.309 level. He's an area -level British fighter. I 00:34:57.309 --> 00:34:59.210 think he only has, like, two knockouts and 18 00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:05.809 wins. Like, he stinks. He's not good. He's not 00:35:05.809 --> 00:35:10.610 good. You know what really ticks me off about 00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:13.489 this matchup? What's that? It's the main event. 00:35:13.989 --> 00:35:17.190 Yeah. How the fuck is it the main event anywhere? 00:35:17.630 --> 00:35:23.409 It's in, uh... Is this Saudi? Yeah. Yeah. Remember 00:35:23.409 --> 00:35:25.590 Adamez wasn't going to go back to Saudi? He said 00:35:25.590 --> 00:35:27.690 he would never go back there. He goes, I'm not 00:35:27.690 --> 00:35:30.170 going to fight this kind of rematch if I go to 00:35:30.170 --> 00:35:31.630 Saudi. I'm not going to fight Janabek if I go 00:35:31.630 --> 00:35:34.170 to Saudi. Now, perfectly okay going to Saudi, 00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:43.769 I realize. Oh, man. And the funniest part, and 00:35:43.769 --> 00:35:47.920 I know Blunted Boxes brought this up. I'm just 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:53.500 going to reiterate it. Zufa Boxes had... three 00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:58.360 of the four middleweight champions, and they 00:35:58.449 --> 00:36:01.570 didn't make it about between them. How does that 00:36:01.570 --> 00:36:05.690 happen when the best are fighting the best? Yeah, 00:36:05.789 --> 00:36:08.510 they won against every model that they said they 00:36:08.510 --> 00:36:12.050 were going to have. And now I'm just like, is 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:14.800 the league still a thing? That's what I'm still 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:20.070 curious about. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? 00:36:20.889 --> 00:36:25.769 Also at 160, Virgil Ortiz, man. Him and Keith 00:36:25.769 --> 00:36:28.929 Thurman came face -to -face for the first time. 00:36:29.469 --> 00:36:33.210 And I gotta tell you, Keith Thurman looks ready. 00:36:33.989 --> 00:36:41.739 Keith Thurman looks ready. Ezra, thoughts on 00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:45.179 Virgil and Keith coming face -to -face? Bro, 00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:48.139 that fight sucks. Yeah, I don't know. That's 00:36:48.139 --> 00:36:49.679 my thoughts on it. I don't give a damn about 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.900 that fight. That fight means nothing to me. Only 00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:54.340 thing that can hurt... Really? Honestly? Only 00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:56.300 thing that can happen is Virgil looks... It's 00:36:56.300 --> 00:37:00.119 really no way he comes out better in it. So Virgil 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.519 comes out worse in it. That's the only thing 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.119 that we're really here. I always say there's 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:05.739 a street fighter where the level you fight a 00:37:05.739 --> 00:37:08.460 car, this is Virgil Ortiz level where he fights 00:37:08.460 --> 00:37:18.269 a car. I think Keith has a chance to win. I'll 00:37:18.269 --> 00:37:25.789 break it down for you. Real quick, joining the 00:37:25.789 --> 00:37:32.269 show, live public streets. The mean street to 00:37:32.269 --> 00:37:37.789 Philadelphia. We have the host of the Sunday 00:37:37.789 --> 00:37:42.489 morning sermon. The longest running Twitter space 00:37:42.489 --> 00:37:47.099 in history. He always keeps it 100. Never 99. 00:37:47.820 --> 00:37:53.840 Did you get the Zell? My guy. Keep 100 bucks. 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.440 What's going on, John? Listen, man. I love you, 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.639 man. Listen, to Keith Thurman, man, he sees something. 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.519 I had to chime in, man. One time, one more time. 00:38:07.219 --> 00:38:10.179 Yeah, I see something. I see Kiko in our one 00:38:10.179 --> 00:38:15.159 through six. That's what I see, baby. One through 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.800 six. Baby, one through four. I get greedy, Ezra. 00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:20.880 You know what? Matt, I have a question for you, 00:38:20.900 --> 00:38:22.360 actually. I think it's a pretty interesting question. 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.869 What's a better matchup? Tougher matchup? Virgil 00:38:27.869

--> 00:38:38.909 versus Thurman? Or Boots versus Kelly? Who loses, 00:38:38.909 --> 00:38:42.260 Mike? Is that for me or is that for Ty? That's 00:38:42.260 --> 00:38:44.000 for you. That's for you, Matt. He said you, Matt. 00:38:44.340 --> 00:38:46.019 Oh, I wasn't going to listen to him. My bad. 00:38:49.030 --> 00:38:54.159 I'm going to say Virgil versus Thurman is a tougher 00:38:54.159 --> 00:39:00.940 matchup. All right. I think Kelly has absolutely 00:39:00.940 --> 00:39:03.739 nothing for Boots. I think the same thing for 00:39:03.739 --> 00:39:08.010 Thurman. I got a question, Matt. could thurman 00:39:08.010 --> 00:39:11.289 beat kelly and we switched oppositions yes yes 00:39:11.289 --> 00:39:15.280 yes yes what you think ass could thurman beat 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.980 kelly yes i'm not sure that's a 50 50 fight i 00:39:17.980 --> 00:39:20.500 think it's a 50 50 break i'm not sure hey hey 00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:23.739 the fact that you would say it's a 50 50 fight 00:39:23.739 --> 00:39:28.820 but you got virgil cooking thurman i have boots 00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:31.820 cooking kelly what do you think what do you think 00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:33.679 i have that gonna be close in a decision i don't 00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.440 know i don't know i don't know what you are the 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.829 fact what does that mean I was like, yeah, I 00:39:37.829 --> 00:39:40.730 got both getting cooked. But like I was saying, 00:39:40.789 --> 00:39:43.210 the fact that you have Virgil cooking Thurman 00:39:43.210 --> 00:39:47.030 and Thurman versus Kelly at 50 -50 fight, I kind 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:50.139 of feel like Virgil and Boots really dropped 00:39:50.139 --> 00:39:51.920 the ball. We might have had something special 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.000 here. We might have had something special here 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.369 if they would have fought each other. We might 00:39:58.369 --> 00:40:00.719 have had what? We might have had something special. 00:40:01.380 --> 00:40:03.739 Oh, yeah, they should have fought each other. 00:40:04.380 --> 00:40:08.019 Man, yeah, let me tell you something. You cannot 00:40:08.019 --> 00:40:16.960 get me excited for that fight. Martin had a very 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.079 interesting comment. Martin says that Zufa can't 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.000 afford to put on big fights with their massive 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.639 executive payroll. I don't know if it's the massive 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:31.159 executive payroll, but I have noticed that the 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.360 quality of these sides has been very poor with 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.260 the Zufa boxing bout. Have you noticed that? 00:40:38.849 --> 00:40:40.570 Well, for the future fights they're announcing, 00:40:40.809 --> 00:40:44.590 yeah, I definitely noticed that. So what do you 00:40:44.590 --> 00:40:47.030 attribute that? I don't know. I don't know what 00:40:47.030 --> 00:40:48.429 the strategy is. They're all over the place. 00:40:48.630 --> 00:40:51.550 Because I think that me and you were pretty much 00:40:51.550 --> 00:40:53.869 enjoying what Zubo was offering when it first 00:40:53.869 --> 00:40:58.050 started. I loved their cards, man. And I was 00:40:58.050 --> 00:41:00.349 enjoying it. And I thought, hey, if they just 00:41:00.349 --> 00:41:02.570 do this and try to build their guys inside a 00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:04.969 bunch of young talent, this isn't too bad of 00:41:04.969 --> 00:41:08.280 an idea and I could get behind this. they got 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:09.539 you know like we always said they got greedy 00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:12.000 they got they got impatient and try to get all 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.840 these big names and yeah and to me now like i 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.800 don't know what they are they just they're getting 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.150 not big names but guys that are uh i guess uh 00:41:22.150 --> 00:41:25.289 world level and certain weights and put them 00:41:25.289 --> 00:41:28.090 against squash competition that's not gonna win 00:41:28.090 --> 00:41:29.989 that's not that's not that's not anything different 00:41:29.989 --> 00:41:31.570 either that's like not even a different attempt 00:41:31.570 --> 00:41:36.219 to anything i still can't believe this this Adamez 00:41:36.219 --> 00:41:39.039 versus Jerome Warburton fight. I just don't get 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.460 it. Honestly, this is one of the worst fights 00:41:42.460 --> 00:41:46.579 of all time. To me, if you sign Adamez and you 00:41:46.579 --> 00:41:49.340 sign these guys who are not, to me, that can 00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:51.840 be massive paydays. There's just no way. They're 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:53.519 getting massive money. Maybe they are. I don't 00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:56.420 know. I would have meant so. There's no way you 00:41:56.420 --> 00:41:58.119 can't match them against your tough competition 00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.230 in the weight class. and at least say, hey, we're 00:42:01.230 --> 00:42:03.449 still putting on competitive fights, right? Like, 00:42:03.449 --> 00:42:04.690 at least they can say that, but they're not even 00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:07.050 doing that. And they're just going within the 00:42:07.050 --> 00:42:08.949 way that basically, like, every boxing promoter 00:42:08.949 --> 00:42:12.869 is kind of trying to work. And it's just at a 00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.710 way worse level. And it just doesn't make any 00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:20.059 sense. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's 00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:23.940 not looking good for the future. But, like I 00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:27.260 said, they put on some great cards, in my opinion, 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:32.670 to start. It's just a matter of they got to continue 00:42:32.670 --> 00:42:36.849 it. They got to continue it. Because Carlos Adamas 00:42:36.849 --> 00:42:40.949 versus Jerome Warburton ain't it. Ain't it at 00:42:40.949 --> 00:42:46.630 all. Go

ahead. Go back to the league and say 00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:48.510 forget the bouts. Forget the sanctuary bodies. 00:42:48.670 --> 00:42:50.429 Forget all that. We're just going back to our 00:42:50.429 --> 00:42:52.309 league and we're doing our own bouts. And build 00:42:52.309 --> 00:42:55.199 within the talent pool that they have. They can't 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.690 do their own bouts yet. Well, whatever. Well, 00:42:57.750 --> 00:42:59.130 they were doing their own belt. They really can't 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:00.090 do their own belt. They were already doing their 00:43:00.090 --> 00:43:02.210 own. No, they can't officially have their own 00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:04.630 belt and ranking system until they change the 00:43:04.630 --> 00:43:08.289 act. Well, what's Obataya? Is he not their Cruiserweight 00:43:08.289 --> 00:43:11.250 champion? Yeah, but there's no ranking or anything 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:13.650 behind that. It's like they gave him a belt for 00:43:13.650 --> 00:43:15.710 winning a fight is essentially what that is. 00:43:15.789 --> 00:43:18.550 Yeah, it's ceremonial. There's nothing that backs 00:43:18.550 --> 00:43:20.570 him saying he's a champion. They gave him a ceremonial 00:43:20.570 --> 00:43:22.750 belt. That means nothing. Keep it ceremonial. 00:43:22.750 --> 00:43:24.929 No one enforced anything on it. Keep it ceremonial, 00:43:24.929 --> 00:43:26.989 whatever. I don't think people care. Keep it 00:43:26.989 --> 00:43:29.110 ceremonial, but go back to that. So make it a 00:43:29.110 --> 00:43:32.190 wrestling. Yes. Get away from the bouts. That's 00:43:32.190 --> 00:43:33.869 the only way that you have anything different. 00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:36.690 Go back to your roster you have, run a league, 00:43:36.789 --> 00:43:41.119 and do that. That's it. Run a league within your 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:42.760 talent and make tough matchups like you were 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.800 doing when you started. That's it. I don't understand 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.420 this. Adam is going to move the needle. It's 00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:50.659 not going to do anything. All right, now it's 00:43:50.659 --> 00:43:54.980 time for you, Ezra, to move the needle for the 00:43:54.980 --> 00:43:58.099 people. Your favorite part of the show, where 00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:01.039 you get to take over the show, with the Ezra 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.360 breakdown, the Ezra report card, and your best 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.780 bet for the day. Are there no more weight classes? 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.760 Did we stop at middleweight? What else is there 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.400 to talk about? I don't know, but there's more 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.579 weight classes. Okay, let's talk about what we're 00:44:16.579 --> 00:44:19.690 talking about. Ezra, what? Featherweight through 00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:23.090 118 through 154. What's your storylines? Oh, 00:44:23.110 --> 00:44:26.010 154? We just had Boots versus Kelly. Fedora just 00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:27.949 got a win. He said he's going to fight Boots 00:44:27.949 --> 00:44:32.650 next. That's a hell of a fight. We got to go 00:44:32.650 --> 00:44:35.980 to the Ezra breakdown afterward. You know what? 00:44:36.219 --> 00:44:39.920 Forget about Ezra. We have a special guest. A 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.699 special treat. We have a special guest for the 00:44:44.699 --> 00:44:47.719 boxing audience today. It's a treat for you guys. 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:54.170 We have... Light, heavyweight contender. Some 00:44:54.170 --> 00:44:57.070 call him Ateef. Most people call him Lord Pretty 00:44:57.070 --> 00:45:00.550 Calvo. We got Ateef Overton in the building. 00:45:00.550 --> 00:45:03.900 What's going on, Ateef? What's going on, my brother? 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:11.300 He got the mirror. He got the mirror. Let's go, 00:45:11.460 --> 00:45:15.800 man. Hey, listen. You're back in the ring next 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.699 week, November 7th, in Albuquerque. New Mexico 00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:26.920 against fellow heavy hitter. Bomb squad member. 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.500 God damn it. You're going up against the bomb 00:45:29.500 --> 00:45:32.719 squad. It hurts my heart because I am bomb squad 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.679 through and through. My God, Deion Nicholson. 00:45:36.059 --> 00:45:40.500 Tell the people about your fight and how did 00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:44.150 this matchup come to be? Yeah, I'm fighting November 00:45:44.150 --> 00:45:49.110 7th at Albuquerque, New Mexico versus Deion Nicholson. 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.079 How the fight came about, I don't know. The matchmaker, 00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:57.739 shout out to Brendan. They'll work for Salida. 00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.559 And he just set it up. So he got me some smoke. 00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.380 So I'm about to go do that. Now, this is definitely 00:46:05.380 --> 00:46:10.760 some smoke. In my personal opinion, this is going 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.960 to be the best fighter that you've fought so 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:19.019 far. In your opinion. Where would you rank Deion 00:46:19.019 --> 00:46:23.670 Nicholson amongst your opponent? I don't think 00:46:23.670 --> 00:46:28.190 he's better than Angulo. Come on, man. Come on, 00:46:28.210 --> 00:46:31.420 man. Of course he is. And why do you say that? 00:46:32.090 --> 00:46:35.869 Because he's a heavier hitter. He's less shot 00:46:35.869 --> 00:46:41.800 worn. I think he boxes well. I'm telling you. 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:43.780 Yo, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm 00:46:43.780 --> 00:46:45.480 very familiar with Deion Nicholson. Like I said, 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.659 he's bomb squad. No joke, man. Now. I was talking 00:46:50.659 --> 00:46:54.380 to my man from the Bomb Squad yesterday about 00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:57.179 this fight because I was like, yo, I can't believe 00:46:57.179 --> 00:47:01.260 that this fight is really happening. And he said, 00:47:01.480 -->

00:47:04.860 I'm just letting you know, he said that you better 00:47:04.860 --> 00:47:07.179 be taking it seriously because he said Deion 00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:09.659 looking good right now. He said Deion looking 00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:12.059 good, man. He said Deion coming with it for you, 00:47:12.099 --> 00:47:15.320 man. What are you going to bring to this fight 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.030 next week? I'm going to bring my hands. I'm not 00:47:18.030 --> 00:47:30.920 doing no fucking talking. From what I heard, 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.639 this fight was supposed to take place before 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:37.900 it couldn't get over the line. You guys finally 00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:43.349 got the fight over the line. You said, you know, 00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:46.309 the guy Brendan from Salida helped put the fight 00:47:46.309 --> 00:47:51.619 together. When did they present him as an opponent 00:47:51.619 --> 00:47:55.719 for you? And what was your immediate answer? 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.019 Just, yo, let's just line it up. Like, how did 00:47:58.019 --> 00:48:01.969 that happen on your end? I heard his name before, 00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:07.400 but nothing ever happened. And this time, they 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.719 said they wanted to have me fight in Albuquerque, 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:14.000 New Mexico to keep me busy. and it wasn't no 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.880 they just sent them and then okay there's never 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.179 that's what it is with everybody I fight it's 00:48:19.179 --> 00:48:21.460 never no I'm negotiating do I want to fight no 00:48:21.460 --> 00:48:24.179 everything they they already know give it to 00:48:24.179 --> 00:48:27.519 me then so it was the same thing with him so 00:48:28.539 --> 00:48:30.380 so there's no conversation when they present 00:48:30.380 --> 00:48:32.139 an opponent there's no conversation for you just 00:48:32.139 --> 00:48:34.559 whoever you guys play it is but I'm like that 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:36.800 where I don't need I don't need to have a conversation 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.940 I feel like I'm the best in the world so it's 00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:41.019 not none of that this this he's not on my level 00:48:41.019 --> 00:48:52.230 now With Deion Nicholson, what does he bring 00:48:52.230 --> 00:48:56.289 to the table? I know you probably scouted him. 00:48:56.610 --> 00:49:00.150 Your trainer probably scouted him. What is it, 00:49:00.150 --> 00:49:03.389 some of the things that he does well that you're 00:49:03.389 --> 00:49:07.030 going to look to basically negate in your fight? 00:49:08.989 --> 00:49:11.650 He's just another boxer to me, bro, honestly. 00:49:11.889 --> 00:49:14.329 I'm being real honest with you. He's just another 00:49:14.329 --> 00:49:16.570 fighter. He's another guy that I sparred a million 00:49:16.570 --> 00:49:19.409 times. He's another guy. that i fought in the 00:49:19.409 --> 00:49:22.409 amateur several times he's another guy i

probably 00:49:22.409 --> 00:49:25.989 seen in the pros before like he doesn't possess 00:49:25.989 --> 00:49:31.619 nothing that i've never seen before now is there 00:49:31.619 --> 00:49:34.719 any bad blood between you two going into the 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.860 fight or is this just business as usual for you 00:49:37.860 --> 00:49:42.250 it's just business i don't know him i just know 00:49:42.250 --> 00:49:44.329 i just know he signed the contract to fight i 00:49:44.329 --> 00:49:48.489 don't know him oh he knows you man he he been 00:49:48.489 --> 00:49:52.010 talking about you man he he knows you very well 00:49:52.010 --> 00:49:55.969 apparently well that's good yeah the whole world 00:49:55.969 --> 00:49:59.230 gonna know me soon question and then for matt 00:49:59.230 --> 00:50:01.610 i'm gonna ask you a question actually are you 00:50:01.610 --> 00:50:04.510 gonna ask me a question when we talking to lord 00:50:04.510 --> 00:50:06.590 pretty cowboy but this this is why i'm asking 00:50:06.590 --> 00:50:12.579 this is this uh you got robbed again yeah i know 00:50:12.579 --> 00:50:14.739 i look like i was scared there i thought i have 00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:17.599 to put the seat back hey uh is this ot's heart 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:19.969 uh toughest opponent to date do you think For 00:50:19.969 --> 00:50:23.849 me, I would say, yeah, but I got to be honest. 00:50:23.929 --> 00:50:26.670 I'm a little biased, man. I'm a little biased. 00:50:26.869 --> 00:50:30.829 Like, it hurts my heart that Atif, who's one 00:50:30.829 --> 00:50:33.349 of my favorite fighters, is fighting a member 00:50:33.349 --> 00:50:36.289 of the Bomb Squad. This is really, really, this 00:50:36.289 --> 00:50:39.010 is really bothering me, man. It's really bothering 00:50:39.010 --> 00:50:44.340 me. And it's like, damn, I know, I know what 00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:47.170 Atif bring into the ring. I know what he bring 00:50:47.170 --> 00:50:49.900 into the ring. I feel like I know what's going 00:50:49.900 --> 00:50:52.860 to happen, and I don't think I want to see what's 00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:55.789 going to happen. Like, I'm going to have the 00:50:55.789 --> 00:50:58.969 fight on just so they can get the rating, but 00:50:58.969 --> 00:51:01.469 I ain't going to watch it. I ain't going to watch 00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:03.550 it. I'm going to have it on, but I ain't going 00:51:03.550 --> 00:51:05.250 to watch it because it's really going to hurt 00:51:05.250 --> 00:51:08.179 my heart, man. It's really going to hurt my heart, 00:51:08.219 --> 00:51:12.920 man. But this is fun. To me, funny enough, this 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.099 is the best light heavyweight matchup that we 00:51:15.099 --> 00:51:18.630 have this year. And that includes B -Ball versus 00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:21.780 Callum Smith. This is the best matchup that we 00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:24.900 have this year. And it's very rare, very rare, 00:51:25.099 --> 00:51:32.230 that you get two black

fighters at the peak of 00:51:32.230 --> 00:51:35.090 their powers, two heavy hitters fighting each 00:51:35.090 --> 00:51:39.269 other. So for me, I salute both guys for taking 00:51:39.269 --> 00:51:42.010 on the challenge. I know Asif don't think it's 00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:43.530 going to be a challenge, and he's a fighter, 00:51:43.570 --> 00:51:47.269 so rightfully so. But for me, this is a very 00:51:47.269 --> 00:51:49.469 important fight. This is such an important fight. 00:51:49.690 --> 00:51:54.809 Because I think if Atif does what I know he knows 00:51:54.809 --> 00:51:57.510 he's going to do, they got to give him a title 00:51:57.510 --> 00:52:01.610 shot next. They have to. There's no more, oh, 00:52:01.809 --> 00:52:03.369 he got to fight this guy, he got to fight that. 00:52:03.510 --> 00:52:06.590 Nah, this is it. It got to be a title shot after 00:52:06.590 --> 00:52:10.469 this. What are your thoughts on that, Atif? I 00:52:10.469 --> 00:52:13.130 mean, you don't understand it. You pay attention 00:52:13.130 --> 00:52:16.920 more to the landscape than I do. i just fight 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.019 and win and just keep going i don't get into 00:52:19.019 --> 00:52:22.480 what the media say or what you know what people 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:24.599 say because everybody always got something to 00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.579 say everybody got an opinion so i just i just 00:52:28.579 --> 00:52:32.719 work hard work on my skills which is boxing and 00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:34.900 this is what i do when i come come down there 00:52:34.900 --> 00:52:37.260 and i lay down low when i get in the ring now 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:39.480 you look good in your last fight you you've been 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.639 you've been busy you've been keeping busy like 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.610 like you said you would like Salida told you 00:52:46.610 --> 00:52:50.949 he would. What's the year been like for you and 00:52:50.949 --> 00:52:55.199 how would you accept your year so far? Amazing. 00:52:55.300 --> 00:52:57.880 This is the best year I've had in my boxing career 00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:02.559 in a very long time. I say since I was an amateur 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.900 or since the first year I turned pro. And I mean, 00:53:05.980 --> 00:53:09.019 I'm staying busy, which I love. You know, when 00:53:09.019 --> 00:53:11.960 I'm busy, I'm dangerous. And of course, I'm getting 00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.380 paid at the same time and I'm getting the recognition 00:53:14.380 --> 00:53:20.739 that I need. So it's amazing. One of the listeners 00:53:20.739 --> 00:53:26.150 wants to know, would you be ready for a shot 00:53:26.150 --> 00:53:30.130 against Dimitri B -Ball should you come through 00:53:30.130 --> 00:53:33.780 with this fight next? I believe so. I think my 00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:39.130 team believes so. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think 00:53:39.130 --> 00:53:41.590 it's time. I think it's time. It's funny. It's 00:53:41.590 --> 00:53:46.369 funny. There was a time where I wanted to pair 00:53:46.369 --> 00:53:52.820 you with, Ben Whittaker, no disrespect to him. 00:53:53.250 --> 00:53:55.429 I kind of feel like you're further along than 00:53:55.429 --> 00:54:00.920 Ben Whittaker, in my humble opinion. He's the 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.380 guy that a lot of people are thinking is going 00:54:04.380 --> 00:54:08.320 to be the big fight for you because he's British, 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.159 you're American. Whenever that comes together, 00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:16.019 it's like a big event. Who do you see as your 00:54:16.019 --> 00:54:20.500 big money fight at Light Heavyweight? I mean, 00:54:20.500 --> 00:54:27.460 it probably would be him. Yeah, yeah. Is that 00:54:27.460 --> 00:54:30.039 a fight that you might want to have down the 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:33.889 road? Down the road if possible. I mean, if he 00:54:33.889 --> 00:54:35.530 keep winning and I keep winning, I don't got 00:54:35.530 --> 00:54:38.989 no bad things to say about him or speak about 00:54:38.989 --> 00:54:45.630 him. So, I mean, if it happens, it happens. Go 00:54:45.630 --> 00:54:49.250 ahead, Andrew. Well, your last performance, you 00:54:49.250 --> 00:54:50.670 were saying you were ready for that. It was like 00:54:50.670 --> 00:54:53.289 a big fight, big event. how did you feel about 00:54:53.289 --> 00:54:54.929 that performance did you feel like you did what 00:54:54.929 --> 00:54:57.010 you wanted to do in the ring there uh did you 00:54:57.010 --> 00:54:58.929 feel like it was a huge step up in competition 00:54:58.929 --> 00:55:02.170 what were your thoughts after that fight i think 00:55:02.170 --> 00:55:05.010 it was a huge step up in competition i feel like 00:55:05.010 --> 00:55:08.900 during the fight i felt like it was you know 00:55:08.900 --> 00:55:11.909 as i'm out boxing them the way i am and shutting 00:55:11.909 --> 00:55:15.429 them out i felt like it was like one of my best 00:55:15.429 --> 00:55:18.530 boxing performances ever but some people that's 00:55:18.530 --> 00:55:22.489 not um I'd say if they call them casuals or some 00:55:22.489 --> 00:55:25.769 people that was just watching, you know, they 00:55:25.769 --> 00:55:29.190 was like, oh, you wasn't throwing no punches 00:55:29.190 --> 00:55:31.710 and you didn't do anything. But when I look at 00:55:31.710 --> 00:55:33.989 the fight, I threw punches often and I jabbed 00:55:33.989 --> 00:55:38.389 a lot and I ain't do no running. So with that 00:55:38.389 --> 00:55:41.170 being said, I think my skill set was definitely 00:55:41.170 --> 00:55:44.679 like underappreciated. And, you know, a lot of 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.599 people try to say Angulo was shot and this and 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.579 this and that. And he didn't do this against 00:55:49.579 --> 00:55:52.300 Benavidez and this person. And it's like, we're 00:55:52.300 --> 00:55:54.639 not the same fighters. And certain things that 00:55:54.639

--> 00:55:56.679 I've looked at that he's done in those fights 00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.159 against certain people, we didn't allow him to 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:02.699 do it to us. So it's one of those things, just 00:56:02.699 --> 00:56:05.280 like Guillermo Rigondeaux, or even sometimes 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.980 they do to Shakur or other great fighters. You 00:56:07.980 --> 00:56:10.739 know, they do it to all of the greats where they 00:56:10.739 --> 00:56:12.820 have a certain performance and it's such a shutout. 00:56:13.139 --> 00:56:16.400 that they want to call it boring or say that 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.900 you didn't do enough. That's one thing that I 00:56:18.900 --> 00:56:22.739 didn't appreciate. And that's why, like, I've 00:56:22.739 --> 00:56:26.000 learned so far, and that's why that's how I'm 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.320 going into this fight and probably how I'm going 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:29.940 to treat the rest of the fights in my career 00:56:29.940 --> 00:56:32.840 is, like, everybody, you know, got something 00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:34.860 to say. I'm tired of just hearing everybody talk. 00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:37.519 I'm going to just go in there and work, and whatever 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.769 happens, happens after that. Now you said it 00:56:40.769 --> 00:56:42.610 was a step up of competition. Did it feel the 00:56:42.610 --> 00:56:44.489 speed, the aggressiveness, did it feel different 00:56:44.489 --> 00:56:46.510 in the ring there or was it business as usual 00:56:46.510 --> 00:56:49.969 for you? It was business as usual because this 00:56:49.969 --> 00:56:52.510 is what we work on. We train on, you know, this 00:56:52.510 --> 00:56:55.869 is what we do. We fight. So we work on, you know, 00:56:55.889 --> 00:56:58.750 treating fighting like it is at home, being relaxed 00:56:58.750 --> 00:57:01.349 about it. You know, it's just another day at 00:57:01.349 --> 00:57:03.690 the office and it's the same thing. It's going 00:57:03.690 --> 00:57:06.670 to be the same thing next weekend. Now, because 00:57:06.670 --> 00:57:08.789 like, you know, sometimes you write like the 00:57:08.789 --> 00:57:11.239 casuals. they don't appreciate certain styles, 00:57:11.500 --> 00:57:12.860 right? And they don't appreciate it maybe until 00:57:12.860 --> 00:57:16.550 it gets to like a certain level. It seems like 00:57:16.550 --> 00:57:18.289 you're okay winning that way. It seems like you're 00:57:18.289 --> 00:57:20.389 okay just performing at the highest level that 00:57:20.389 --> 00:57:21.789 you know how to perform, right? And doing what 00:57:21.789 --> 00:57:23.969 you're best. Do you think you have to do things 00:57:23.969 --> 00:57:26.449 outside of the ring to maybe draw more attention 00:57:26.449 --> 00:57:30.309 to you? If maybe, you know, outboxing guys isn't 00:57:30.309 --> 00:57:34.460 going to, you know, satisfy the casual. I just 00:57:34.460 --> 00:57:36.619 got to continue to be myself in the ring and 00:57:36.619 --> 00:57:40.500 outside the ring. And like I said, Early in the 00:57:40.500 --> 00:57:42.300 interview, the whole world is going to know my 00:57:42.300 --> 00:57:45.159 name. What I do, I'm like the last one of the 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.019 purebred people that you get to meet on Earth. 00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:51.719 So it's not plenty of people that just got that 00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.059 raw, natural energy and aura about me that's 00:57:55.059 --> 00:57:57.820 a real person. And it shows off in my fighting, 00:57:57.940 --> 00:58:01.559 and it shows off in me as a person. And if you 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.559 hear me speak, or if you come around me and get 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:06.820 to be around my energy, you get to see that. 00:58:07.219 --> 00:58:10.500 I'm a natural, pure person, and I'm a superstar 00:58:10.500 --> 00:58:13.800 at heart already. So I don't have to do anything 00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:18.179 extra. All I got to do is just be me. Is there 00:58:18.179 --> 00:58:20.480 any other guys that you see in boxing that kind 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.280 of have that makeup that you have right now currently? 00:58:24.110 --> 00:58:26.489 I don't think nobody fucking with me in no department. 00:58:27.630 --> 00:58:34.269 Not personality, not nothing. What about Drip? 00:58:34.980 --> 00:58:39.929 I mean, the face of boxing, and, like, you know, 00:58:39.969 --> 00:58:42.769 I feel like who got it right now is Javante Davis. 00:58:43.539 --> 00:58:46.679 You know, Javante Davis got drip, and he got 00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:48.500 the, you know, he can go do something, post something 00:58:48.500 --> 00:58:50.760 on Twitter, and then everybody go talk about 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:54.039 him right now. So, like, you feel me? I respect 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.880 him, and he showed love to me before. So, shout 00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:01.719 out to Tank. Now, his outfit's outdoing your 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:05.619 outfit. Me personally, as a man, I don't think 00:59:05.619 --> 00:59:08.800 nobody outfit is doing my outfits, unless you 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:11.340 like, I got to give it up to the guys that you 00:59:11.340 --> 00:59:14.820 know I've watched, which is like coming up like 00:59:14.820 --> 00:59:16.860 an A $AP Rocky or something. Those guys that 00:59:16.860 --> 00:59:19.699 really, and you feel me, Tastemakers and those 00:59:19.699 --> 00:59:22.539 guys that's getting the actual pieces before 00:59:22.539 --> 00:59:24.860 they come out and just knowing what's up, really 00:59:24.860 --> 00:59:30.099 knowing ball. But Tank, let's be real, Tank got 00:59:30.099 --> 00:59:33.570 a lot more money than I do. you feel me so he 00:59:33.570 --> 00:59:37.670 got access he got access to certain pieces and 00:59:37.670 --> 00:59:39.889 certain things he can go by that i can't buy 00:59:39.889 --> 00:59:42.829 but i can go get fly out of walmart i could go 00:59:42.829 --> 00:59:45.150 get fly out

of target or i'm not saying like 00:59:45.150 --> 00:59:47.789 you know that's how i came up but you know i 00:59:47.789 --> 00:59:50.329 do have pieces but it's just like i don't think 00:59:50.329 --> 00:59:52.610 nobody's with me because i'm really a natural 00:59:52.610 --> 00:59:55.090 like get dressed guy like i'm really what they 00:59:55.090 --> 00:59:57.369 consider like a fashion guy and i've always been 00:59:57.369 --> 01:00:00.679 like that my whole life yeah come on man wait 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:02.239 well actually do it at a higher level because 01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:05.400 he doesn't have all the the maybe the most expensive 01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.239 stuff that people could get right and then they 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.019 put that together he's doing it with with everything 01:00:09.019 --> 01:00:10.800 he could get and he's doing it so actually he 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.280 might be number one at this now matt doesn't 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.260 appreciate this stuff but i do i do but that's 01:00:16.260 --> 01:00:17.980 that's what but that's what i'm saying i'm saying 01:00:17.980 --> 01:00:20.599 i i that's what i stated i gave it to tank because 01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:23.380 the fact that he has access to so many different 01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:26.130 pieces and you know unique stuff when you got 01:00:26.130 --> 01:00:28.329 the money and i this one thing that i always 01:00:28.329 --> 01:00:30.769 said and this this is no like disrespect to bro 01:00:30.769 --> 01:00:33.010 like i said but this is one thing that i always 01:00:33.010 --> 01:00:36.110 told myself as a kid i'm like give give me the 01:00:36.110 --> 01:00:39.829 same money uh amount of money that you you comparing 01:00:39.829 --> 01:00:42.809 like you know who you think is fly that's a celebrity 01:00:42.809 --> 01:00:44.989 or something give us the same amount of money 01:00:44.989 --> 01:00:49.090 and say go shop and let's see who come back and 01:00:49.090 --> 01:00:51.030 you feel me who really come back with a better 01:00:51.030 --> 01:00:55.539 outfit A lot of what you said went over Ezra 01:00:55.539 --> 01:00:59.699 Tech. Ezra's not a fashionista. Matt doesn't 01:00:59.699 --> 01:01:01.880 get what you're saying right now. I do. Listen, 01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:07.360 this guy is wearing a flannel shirt with a green 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.159 LA hat. He don't know drip, right? You know what? 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.480 None of this over $100. That's what I'm saying. 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:15.179 You can relate to this, Matt. None of this is 01:01:15.179 --> 01:01:18.599 over $100. You did mention A $AP Rocky as one 01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:22.300 of your fashion influences. how familiar are 01:01:22.300 --> 01:01:26.039 you with uh with virgil uh uh abloh you know 01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:30.880 he's like a fashion icon off -white and louis 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.679 vuitton you know and what are your thoughts on 01:01:32.679 -->

01:01:36.329 him yeah virgil abloh is a goat he a legend he 01:01:36.329 --> 01:01:39.969 uh he he um gapped the bridge for a lot of things 01:01:39.969 --> 01:01:41.949 in the fashion world he did a lot of things that 01:01:41.949 --> 01:01:44.269 they wouldn't you know necessarily allow a black 01:01:44.269 --> 01:01:46.769 man to do like if i'm not mistaken he's the first 01:01:46.769 --> 01:01:48.769 black man to leave the house of louis vuitton 01:01:49.349 --> 01:01:52.130 um even when asap and those guys came up he was 01:01:52.130 --> 01:01:55.710 a dj for kanye west but even as he came up he 01:01:55.710 --> 01:01:58.610 had um you know i think he had something to do 01:01:58.610 --> 01:02:03.030 with if i'm not mistaken uh the pyrex um the 01:02:03.030 --> 01:02:05.730 ben trill and the hood by error that whole era 01:02:05.730 --> 01:02:07.869 when asap rocky and those guys was coming up 01:02:07.869 --> 01:02:11.329 during the clubs in 2012 and and like the whole 01:02:11.329 --> 01:02:14.369 thing and he's highly like rooted with the asap 01:02:14.369 --> 01:02:16.429 mob he did a lot of stuff for the asap mob and 01:02:16.429 --> 01:02:19.429 with the asap mob and he's kind of the reason 01:02:19.429 --> 01:02:22.550 why the youth get so much respect when it comes 01:02:22.550 --> 01:02:25.110 to the uh the fashion game now and the whole 01:02:25.110 --> 01:02:27.869 streetwear uh design and everything of that sort 01:02:27.869 --> 01:02:31.110 actually off -white asap ant gave him that name 01:02:31.110 --> 01:02:35.309 uh off -white and um he was like yo you should 01:02:35.309 --> 01:02:36.829 name it off -white he was looking for another 01:02:36.829 --> 01:02:39.449 name because pyrex had a cease and desist so 01:02:39.449 --> 01:02:41.489 he's looking for another name and then he was 01:02:41.489 --> 01:02:43.889 like yo since what you selling is like crack 01:02:43.889 --> 01:02:47.039 he's like name it off -white and that's how he 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:49.460 came up with the name off -white When you're 01:02:49.460 --> 01:02:50.860 talking about the biggest trendsetters, you said 01:02:50.860 --> 01:02:52.840 A $AP Rocky. Who has the crown right now? Who 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:54.820 are the top three guys right now? No, no, no, 01:02:54.820 --> 01:02:57.260 no. Forget about the top three. What's your fashion 01:02:57.260 --> 01:03:01.980 Mount Rushmore? Jesus. That's a great question. 01:03:02.969 --> 01:03:05.130 See, it's a great question. It's the top spot 01:03:05.130 --> 01:03:07.090 to be put right now. I'm trying to get the guys 01:03:07.090 --> 01:03:08.989 right now to pay attention to. Let the East Coast 01:03:08.989 --> 01:03:12.550 fashionistas talk about fashion right now. What's 01:03:12.550 --> 01:03:14.590 your outfit right now? I love to do that for 01:03:14.590 --> 01:03:17.699 you. You're talking about of all time. In your 01:03:17.699 --> 01:03:19.800 opinion, it could be, you know, guys that you 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.860 saw coming up, just your Mount Rushmore. I'm 01:03:23.860 --> 01:03:26.539 definitely going Rocky. I'm going Young Thug. 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.719 Young Thug! Yeah, Young Thug, you fly. Young 01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:34.099 Thug, you fly. You're too old, man. I saw him 01:03:34.099 --> 01:03:35.860 in a purple dress with a gun under his skirt. 01:03:36.179 --> 01:03:38.280 I know what you're talking about with that. I 01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:41.409 mean, that's why we're still talking about him 01:03:41.409 --> 01:03:43.210 today, right? Yeah, you just know that, guys. 01:03:46.570 --> 01:03:49.989 I can even go back. I feel like Rick James was 01:03:49.989 --> 01:03:51.929 very stylish. Rick James is one of my favorites. 01:03:52.190 --> 01:03:55.530 That's a fact. Yeah, Rick James was fly. You 01:03:55.530 --> 01:04:01.280 can go Jim Jones. He got his whole own aesthetic 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.599 with the wallet chains and the, you feel me? 01:04:03.739 --> 01:04:05.599 Yeah, the vampire lights and all that. Yeah, 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:09.599 like ACG boots and all that. Yeah, like I'll 01:04:10.019 --> 01:04:12.579 go guys like that for sure. There's plenty more 01:04:12.579 --> 01:04:14.820 out there, but it's just like, that's off the 01:04:14.820 --> 01:04:19.329 top. Pharrell, one of them ones. And Pharrell, 01:04:19.429 --> 01:04:21.110 that's another creative that people ain't talking 01:04:21.110 --> 01:04:23.769 about. He's doing his thing. Everything he touches 01:04:23.769 --> 01:04:30.909 is like that. See? When you see a boxing career, 01:04:31.289 --> 01:04:34.690 as far as the fame part of it, and as far as 01:04:34.690 --> 01:04:36.949 when you become the big name, do you see more 01:04:36.949 --> 01:04:43.210 of other artists outside of boxing? Because it 01:04:43.210 --> 01:04:46.150 seems like you have things outside of boxing 01:04:46.150 --> 01:04:48.170 that you're really interested in. do you mean 01:04:48.170 --> 01:04:50.050 like i could do i could bring this to boxing 01:04:50.050 --> 01:04:53.730 basically yeah i'm doing it now like my my outfits 01:04:53.730 --> 01:04:57.550 that i designed is like you know fashion uh branded 01:04:57.550 --> 01:05:01.289 and streetwear like my next uh fight outfit is 01:05:01.289 --> 01:05:04.809 why project inspired but i believe right now 01:05:04.809 --> 01:05:08.869 is my favorite uh designer glenn martin's okay 01:05:09.190 --> 01:05:17.239 so can we get a preview of your fight kit no 01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:21.500 Come on, man. I don't have it. It's not even 01:05:21.500 --> 01:05:24.000 finished yet. It's not even finished yet. So 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.780 I don't have no references or nothing to give 01:05:25.780 --> 01:05:28.559 you yet, believe it or not. Every time I ask 01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.019 who's got for a preview of the fight kit, he 01:05:30.019 --> 01:05:33.440 never have it. Never, never. People tune in, 01:05:33.500

--> 01:05:35.500 man. Can't give that away. But then he show up 01:05:35.500 --> 01:05:38.980 with that shit on. Come on, man. Come on, man. 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:42.039 Come on, man. I mean, I told you. I told you 01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:43.820 what it's inspired from. This is why I project. 01:05:44.889 --> 01:05:50.050 Okay, okay. Now, one of the fans, Chris Tennyson 01:05:50.050 --> 01:05:53.190 wants to know, who is on your box in Mount Rushmore? 01:05:55.989 --> 01:06:02.619 Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Sugar 01:06:02.619 --> 01:06:10.840 Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson. James Toney 01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:16.159 is one of my favorites. You can go, James. Muhammad 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:18.780 Ali, out of respect, he did a lot of things wrong. 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:23.039 But it worked for him. And that's what a lot 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:29.989 of people fail to realize. I think it's other 01:06:29.989 --> 01:06:32.710 guys. It's other guys. You know what's crazy? 01:06:32.929 --> 01:06:35.150 I feel like James Coney don't get mentioned a 01:06:35.150 --> 01:06:38.579 lot anymore. He don't. He don't. And he took 01:06:38.579 --> 01:06:43.780 all the smoke. I don't know why. That's just 01:06:43.780 --> 01:06:47.519 life. Sometimes the world loves some of us more 01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:50.219 than they love others. Yeah, that's weird to 01:06:50.219 --> 01:06:54.199 me because he'd take the smoke. He'll beat you 01:06:54.199 --> 01:07:00.199 up in a ring while talking shit to you. Jay Tony, 01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.039 he's one of the ones. That's a very good shout 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.760 -out, man. Shout -out Burger King, too. Matt, 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:07.480 take a look at the private chat here while I 01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:09.320 go to another question from one of the listeners. 01:07:10.340 --> 01:07:12.780 We have a question from Bluntson Boxing. The 01:07:12.780 --> 01:07:15.900 WC belt has become vacant. What could find you 01:07:15.900 --> 01:07:17.699 in the top 10? How would you welcome a fight 01:07:17.699 --> 01:07:19.500 against one Whitaker that Matt mentioned or a 01:07:19.500 --> 01:07:23.949 better B -Bit number two? uh whatever road it 01:07:23.949 --> 01:07:27.269 is if it's if it's the roads uh to the left of 01:07:27.269 --> 01:07:29.630 the fork or the right of the fork if it's leaning 01:07:29.630 --> 01:07:32.750 to that wbc but at the end of the day then i'm 01:07:32.750 --> 01:07:35.789 fine with that if if both fights present themselves 01:07:35.789 --> 01:07:37.670 in order for me to get the belt then i'm fine 01:07:37.670 --> 01:07:40.250 with that i just gotta do what i gotta do to 01:07:40.250 --> 01:07:43.469 get reach the end goals which is you know to 01:07:43.469 --> 01:07:48.400 go ahead and unify and then if we around light 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:50.519 heavy weight long enough to go undisputed and 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:53.739 then go take on the next big thing Then move 01:07:53.739 --> 01:08:00.139 up. Do you as a fighter have like a specific 01:08:00.139 --> 01:08:02.840 sanctioning body that you would want to fight 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:05.699 for or don't matter to you as a fighter? I know 01:08:05.699 --> 01:08:07.599 a lot of Mexicans, they want to fight for that 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:13.119 WBC green belt, you know? It doesn't matter for 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:15.059 me. You know, I don't have none of them, so I 01:08:15.059 --> 01:08:17.100 don't want... none of these guys to look at me 01:08:17.100 --> 01:08:18.779 and say, well, we're not giving them my title. 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.699 We're going to give them a hard time. So I just 01:08:21.699 --> 01:08:24.560 always been a fan of just having all the belts, 01:08:24.699 --> 01:08:28.159 to be honest. But I definitely want like the 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:32.079 WBA because I believe, I think that was like 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:36.140 the first one that was really just like, you 01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:38.159 know what I'm saying? Like, this is you as the 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.100 pure champion. I think when it was a two belt 01:08:40.100 --> 01:08:42.560 era or one belt era, I think, well, however it 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.260 was, I think the WBA was first, I think. Correct. 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.720 Correct. The WBA used to be what's called the 01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:52.460 NBA, and then they changed to WBA. Funny enough, 01:08:52.500 --> 01:08:55.439 the NBA is actually back, but we don't get the 01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:57.939 recognition anymore. Oh, wow. Yeah, it is. But 01:08:57.939 --> 01:09:01.739 I would love to hold that belt just because all 01:09:01.739 --> 01:09:03.739 of the ones before me, all the great boxing guys 01:09:03.739 --> 01:09:06.920 before me have held it, the guys that I mentioned 01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.500 on the Rushmore Boxing. Yeah, yeah, no doubt, 01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:14.020 no doubt. I got to get back to your opponent. 01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:41.520 I want to say yeah, but I'm just not paying attention 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:46.060 to any negativity. But you still want to knock 01:09:46.060 --> 01:09:49.539 his ass out anyway, basically. Yeah, I want to. 01:09:51.029 --> 01:09:53.430 Rightfully so. I'm pretty sure he thinks that's 01:09:53.430 --> 01:09:58.399 what he's going to do to me. Now, you mentioned 01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:02.319 how maybe casuals weren't really appreciative 01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:07.060 of your last performance. And you're going through 01:10:07.060 --> 01:10:10.100 this performance with a different mindset. Like 01:10:10.100 --> 01:10:12.960 I said, nothing about any negativity. But how 01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:16.539 does that affect you going forward? Knowing now, 01:10:16.699 --> 01:10:19.939 listen, every fight that you have is going to 01:10:19.939 --> 01:10:22.310 be a bigger fight. which means more eyeballs 01:10:22.310 --> 01:10:28.130 which means more critics good

and bad how are 01:10:28.130 --> 01:10:31.390 you as a fighter going to be able to deal with 01:10:31.390 --> 01:10:34.449 um all of the outside noise that's going to come 01:10:34.449 --> 01:10:37.930 with every bigger and bigger event that you're 01:10:37.930 --> 01:10:42.949 going to be part of um at first i wanted everybody 01:10:42.949 --> 01:10:46.850 to really like like me and understand me because 01:10:46.850 --> 01:10:50.149 like i said once again I always felt like I was 01:10:50.149 --> 01:10:51.949 the missing piece of the puzzle. Like, I'm the 01:10:51.949 --> 01:10:55.270 realest when it comes to this shit. But at this 01:10:55.270 --> 01:10:59.149 point now, I realize so many people was used 01:10:59.149 --> 01:11:01.289 to the Fugazi, and this is the times that we 01:11:01.289 --> 01:11:06.340 living in. So I just don't give a fuck what nobody 01:11:06.340 --> 01:11:10.909 think about me if it's bad. I'm not here to be 01:11:10.909 --> 01:11:16.199 liked by anybody. I don't give a fuck. My goal 01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:18.300 is to be the greatest fighter of all time, and 01:11:18.300 --> 01:11:20.170 that's what I'm going to do. Whether you hate 01:11:20.170 --> 01:11:23.569 me or love me, that's just what it is. What I 01:11:23.569 --> 01:11:26.689 say and what I speak is never meant to harm anybody 01:11:26.689 --> 01:11:31.029 or hurt anybody. I always wanted to be looked 01:11:31.029 --> 01:11:34.529 at as a people's champion. But what I realized 01:11:34.529 --> 01:11:37.489 when I was watching the podcast with my favorite 01:11:37.489 --> 01:11:40.609 basketball player, Allen Iverson, he said, I 01:11:40.609 --> 01:11:43.329 realized people are just not going to like you 01:11:43.329 --> 01:11:47.479 just because you are who you are. And that's 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.920 what I came to realize. So with that being said, 01:11:50.140 --> 01:11:53.130 it's going to be a lot of hate. I just don't 01:11:53.130 --> 01:11:56.930 give a fuck. All I care about is winning and 01:11:56.930 --> 01:12:01.520 making myself proud and my family proud and winning 01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:05.020 and at a dominant fashion at that. So that's 01:12:05.020 --> 01:12:08.029 all that matters. How did you get the job done 01:12:08.029 --> 01:12:12.140 on November 7th? Listening to my team, being 01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:14.579 pretty cavo, being a person that I've been prepping 01:12:14.579 --> 01:12:17.029 to be my whole life. the person that i've been 01:12:17.029 --> 01:12:19.350 dreaming of since a kid i'm not letting nobody 01:12:19.350 --> 01:12:25.100 get in the way of this for the people and if 01:12:25.100 --> 01:12:28.000 they've been living in iraq i guess who haven't 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.880 seen you fight before what should they be expecting 01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:41.039 to see come november 7th we just gonna have to 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:47.369 see i'm coming to him up damn that kind of hurts 01:12:47.369 --> 01:12:50.369 my heart

to hear man hey listen i'm looking forward 01:12:50.369 --> 01:12:54.050 to it it you know c 'est la vie it's gotta be 01:12:54.050 --> 01:12:57.159 it's gotta be It's going to be Atif Overton, 01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:01.979 Lord Pretty Calvo versus Dion Nicholson, November 01:13:01.979 --> 01:13:05.659 7th, Albuquerque, New Mexico, man. Real quick, 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.220 we'll figure it out here. Just tell the people 01:13:07.220 --> 01:13:09.800 where they can find you at, where they can follow 01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:13.619 you at. Your fashion. I know you got fashion 01:13:13.619 --> 01:13:14.779 stuff you're working on. Tell me where they can 01:13:14.779 --> 01:13:17.800 find your fashion stuff. We try to get the people 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:23.270 to fuck with Lord Pretty Calvo. Yeah. Go to, 01:13:23.289 --> 01:13:25.689 log on to Instagram, and when you go on the search 01:13:25.689 --> 01:13:28.970 bar, type in N -I -T -F, we trust. I -N -A -T 01:13:28.970 --> 01:13:31.890 -I -F, we trust. Like, in God, we trust. You 01:13:31.890 --> 01:13:35.479 trust in God, you can trust in me. I like what 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:38.199 my boy said. Junior Bell, shout out to you, bro. 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:42.800 And I have a Twitter, only one pretty cow. C 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:47.279 -A -L -V. I can't put the O. And my Facebook 01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:51.140 is just I -T -F -O, bro. Shout out to JR Bell, 01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:54.090 the boxing source. Yeah, he said straight to 01:13:54.090 --> 01:13:57.989 the point cowboys gonna fuck him up Listen, I 01:13:57.989 --> 01:14:01.229 just want to point out That jr. Bell of the boxing 01:14:01.229 --> 01:14:03.789 source has been an enemy of the ball squad for 01:14:03.789 --> 01:14:08.010 about 10 years now Okay, this guy this guy has 01:14:08.010 --> 01:14:12.050 been an enemy for like 10 years Well, that's 01:14:12.050 --> 01:14:17.069 who I want on my team. I don't want nobody playing 01:14:17.069 --> 01:14:19.590 both sides. It's either you with them or you 01:14:19.590 --> 01:14:22.470 with me. I got to tell you, that's what it seems 01:14:22.470 --> 01:14:24.069 like with Matt. It seems like he's playing both 01:14:24.069 --> 01:14:26.529 sides here. I'm not playing both sides. I'm just 01:14:26.529 --> 01:14:29.029 saying, man. Listen, man. You're not because 01:14:29.029 --> 01:14:31.590 I know what you really said. But I know what 01:14:31.590 --> 01:14:34.770 you really said. So I know. I know. I know you 01:14:34.770 --> 01:14:38.149 like it over here better. Oh, man. I know what 01:14:38.149 --> 01:14:41.640 you really said. It's like before Shawn Michaels 01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.220 super kicked Ric Flair, he said, I love you, 01:14:44.260 --> 01:14:46.840 I'm sorry, and kicked him and knocked him out, 01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:50.189 man. It's like one of those things, man. But 01:14:50.189 --> 01:14:52.489 listen, I appreciate you joining us. Before you 01:14:52.489 --> 01:14:55.590 get out of here, Canelo Alvarez is coming back 01:14:55.590 --> 01:14:58.289 today against Christian DeBilly. I know you follow 01:14:58.289 --> 01:15:00.289 the fight game. You're one of the sharp boxers 01:15:00.289 --> 01:15:04.010 out there. A lot of people say Canelo's washed. 01:15:04.210 --> 01:15:07.909 My host, Ezra, saying that. I think if Billy 01:15:07.909 --> 01:15:11.789 got nothing for him as a fighter and as an analyst 01:15:11.789 --> 01:15:14.369 and someone who knows boxing, how do you think 01:15:14.369 --> 01:15:17.069 that fight going to go today? I think Canelo's 01:15:17.069 --> 01:15:19.210 going to beat him. I think the experience is, 01:15:19.350 --> 01:15:21.449 and you can't sit there and say he watched because 01:15:21.449 --> 01:15:25.029 he lost to Terrence, Bud, Crawford. We're talking 01:15:25.029 --> 01:15:26.949 about the best fighter in the world right now. 01:15:26.989 --> 01:15:30.149 What are we talking about? Come on. You can't 01:15:30.149 --> 01:15:32.170 say he watched. And that's the thing about boxing. 01:15:32.289 --> 01:15:36.329 Once you lose, they try to out you. as you can't 01:15:36.329 --> 01:15:39.789 fight when all reality the opponents back then 01:15:39.789 --> 01:15:42.229 like when we talk about the 80s and the 90s the 01:15:42.229 --> 01:15:43.989 guy that had eight fights that got knocked out 01:15:43.989 --> 01:15:46.850 five times was dangerous I'm like he got hands 01:15:46.850 --> 01:15:49.890 like this so it's just one of those things man 01:15:49.890 --> 01:15:52.350 like that absolutely you can't take away from 01:15:52.350 --> 01:15:54.310 everything the man done in the sport and who 01:15:54.310 --> 01:15:57.529 he is I don't think he washed I think he's gonna 01:15:57.529 --> 01:16:01.750 beat the guy thank you if he did lose would you 01:16:01.750 --> 01:16:04.050 think oh he might be past a little bit come on 01:16:04.050 --> 01:16:11.149 man Hey, as messed up as it sounds, that wouldn't 01:16:11.149 --> 01:16:14.470 be giving Billy any credit, I would say. But 01:16:14.470 --> 01:16:19.310 it's like, that's wrong. That's where we're at. 01:16:21.970 --> 01:16:24.470 Listen, man, I appreciate you joining us, man. 01:16:24.770 --> 01:16:26.609 Best of luck in your next fight. I'm looking 01:16:26.609 --> 01:16:29.949 forward to it. Is it going to be live on The 01:16:29.949 --> 01:16:32.050 Zone? Or is it going to be live on Win Records? 01:16:32.569 --> 01:16:35.590 Where can people watch your fight at? Live on 01:16:35.590 --> 01:16:38.229 the Zone is the co -main event for Abraham Perez 01:16:38.229 --> 01:16:42.989 versus the other guy. Yankee Rivera. Yeah, yeah, 01:16:43.010 --> 01:16:45.949 yeah. That's going to be a good fight, but let's 01:16:45.949 --> 01:16:48.789 be honest. I know you can't say this, but the 01:16:48.789 --> 01:16:51.149 real main event is going to be Lord Pretty Cowboy 01:16:51.149 --> 01:16:54.270 against D .R. Nicholson. It is. Why

can't he 01:16:54.270 --> 01:16:55.970 say that? Of course he can say that. Well, because 01:16:55.970 --> 01:16:57.670 it might get Salida mad. You don't even know, 01:16:57.750 --> 01:17:03.829 man. Salida know. You don't want to block me. 01:17:03.850 --> 01:17:06.890 Demetri, if you're watching this, you know. You 01:17:06.890 --> 01:17:11.979 know I'm the man. Lord Pretty Cabo, ladies and 01:17:11.979 --> 01:17:13.960 gentlemen. Like I said, he comes back to the 01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:17.659 ring November 7th live on The Zone from Albuquerque, 01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:29.819 New Mexico against Deion Nicholson. That's the 01:17:29.819 --> 01:17:35.829 thing about me. I don't got a squad. i'm gonna 01:17:35.829 --> 01:17:39.590 have to send this one out to diante man i'm one 01:17:39.590 --> 01:17:44.300 man or me in this man for life you know no doubt 01:17:44.300 --> 01:17:48.699 no doubt man just me and my mirror just me and 01:17:48.699 --> 01:17:56.369 my mirror ah man this was fun man this was fun 01:17:56.369 --> 01:18:04.609 definitely fun ah that was fun man that was fun 01:18:04.609 --> 01:18:08.409 that was some good stuff Matt, when you said 01:18:08.409 --> 01:18:10.170 drip, I'm not going to lie, you sound 100 years 01:18:10.170 --> 01:18:12.090 old. I'm not going to lie to you. I said, man, 01:18:12.109 --> 01:18:14.550 that guy sounds old. Bro, I sounded like I was 01:18:14.550 --> 01:18:18.229 with it. Man, I was like this guy, drip. I sounded 01:18:18.229 --> 01:18:20.149 hit. And I'm not even sure people say that anymore. 01:18:20.210 --> 01:18:23.050 Just you sound old saying it. Nah. I'm going 01:18:23.050 --> 01:18:24.729 to leave and come back because the camera's all 01:18:24.729 --> 01:18:25.949 screwed up. It happened during the interview. 01:18:26.149 --> 01:18:28.109 No, no, you're just luckily. No, you look fine. 01:18:28.590 --> 01:18:31.430 No, I can't turn it this way. And it's not working. 01:18:31.470 --> 01:18:34.649 You just did. No, no, just leave it. Just leave 01:18:34.649 --> 01:18:36.710 it. That's right. I can't see anything. What 01:18:36.710 --> 01:18:39.770 I do, I can't see anything. Do you need to see 01:18:39.770 --> 01:18:43.550 anything? Yes, I need to see what it looks like. 01:18:51.090 --> 01:18:56.390 Wait, why did he start talking fast like that 01:18:56.390 --> 01:18:59.529 all of a sudden? I have no idea. Matt, so one 01:18:59.529 --> 01:19:00.909 question we had from the listeners, just while 01:19:00.909 --> 01:19:02.350 we're waiting for Ezra to get back for his breakdown, 01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:03.850 because I think this is a good question for you. 01:19:03.909 --> 01:19:05.710 How would a fight between Overton and Najee Lopez 01:19:05.710 --> 01:19:14.029 look? Like a destruction. Come on, man. And now 01:19:14.029 --> 01:19:16.250 he looks like an idiot. Look, all you see is 01:19:16.250 --> 01:19:22.199 his hand. Look at this guy. He looks exactly 01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:25.100 the

same. Does it work now? He looks exactly 01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:28.439 the same. Except the picture's not moving. No, 01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:30.140 you look frozen now. Yeah, the picture's not 01:19:30.140 --> 01:19:36.029 moving now, you idiot. You made it worse. No 01:19:36.029 --> 01:19:38.470 way. You made it worse. Oh, wait, wait. I think 01:19:38.470 --> 01:19:45.479 it's good now. Okay. All right On this card break 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:46.840 down this fight and then we'll get the picks 01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:51.600 for the day. Oh Okay Listen, it's a one fight 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:58.340 card No, it's not the one fight it's a one fight, 01:19:58.380 --> 01:20:02.720 okay Okay, listen Canelo versus a Billy you guys 01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:05.060 know I'm picking and Billy I think that Canelo 01:20:05.060 --> 01:20:07.680 is sharp early in fights that I think is more 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:10.380 most effective first six rounds of a fight. That's 01:20:10.380 --> 01:20:12.359 why you're seeing early knockdowns come. And 01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:14.500 Billy has, we know what he's going to do. We 01:20:14.500 --> 01:20:16.199 know what his game plan is and you know what 01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:19.039 he has to do. He has to get on Canelo. The one 01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:20.500 thing that Matt keeps comparing to is the Kirkland 01:20:20.500 --> 01:20:22.420 fight, which I don't think is an insane comparison 01:20:22.420 --> 01:20:24.140 because I do think that that's kind of the same 01:20:24.140 --> 01:20:25.960 game plan. What did Kirkland say? He says, I 01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.579 want him to feel me breathe on him, right? That's 01:20:28.579 --> 01:20:30.779 what he said. And that's what Billy needs. He 01:20:30.779 --> 01:20:32.920 needs Canelo to feel him breathing on him. He 01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:36.079 needs to be so close to him that he's putting 01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:38.439 so much pressure and forcing Canelo. to work 01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.140 at a rate that he doesn't want to work at this 01:20:40.140 --> 01:20:42.079 age. He doesn't want to work at this point. And 01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:45.899 he needs to get Canelo in a firefight. He needs 01:20:45.899 --> 01:20:48.199 to get Canelo in a phone booth fight. And he 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.579 needs to keep that going until after the second 01:20:50.579 --> 01:20:52.000 half of the fight, Canelo falls off and then 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:53.520 he can keep pouring it on. Now, that's going 01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:55.239 to say, hey, well, he doesn't have the best gas 01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:57.579 tank. I'm not quite sure on that. I think that 01:20:57.579 --> 01:20:59.420 he was in a really tough fight. And that the 01:20:59.420 --> 01:21:01.060 guy that he was fighting was coming on in the 01:21:01.060 --> 01:21:02.520 second half of the fight. I don't think Canelo's 01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:03.939 going to be coming on in the second half of the 01:21:03.939 --> 01:21:05.760 fight. I think that that's what happened in that 01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:07.220 fight. And we're saying, oh, he has a basket 01:21:07.220 --> 01:21:09.000 gas tank because of that. I think that Billy 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.939 could keep a rate and a pressure and keep on 01:21:12.939 --> 01:21:15.840 Canelo to make this a real bad problem. I think 01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:17.960 if Canelo doesn't land something really devastating 01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:20.039 early of this fight, then he's going to be in 01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:21.479 trouble the second half of it. If he didn't land 01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:23.699 something to change it. Yo, I don't mean to interrupt 01:21:23.699 --> 01:21:29.149 you, but we got three minutes until. David Picasso 01:21:29.149 --> 01:21:33.789 versus Karl Martin. Right now, Karl Martin is 01:21:33.789 --> 01:21:38.569 a plus 410 underdog. Guys, it's money on the 01:21:38.569 --> 01:21:42.340 floor. Money on the floor, guys. It's money on 01:21:42.340 --> 01:21:45.960 the floor. The wonder boy, Karl Martin. Okay, 01:21:45.979 --> 01:21:48.420 question. You want to pick a fight? You want 01:21:48.420 --> 01:21:51.500 to pick a fight real quick? No. I'll take Picasso. 01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:54.500 I'll be a five. No, I'm just alerting the people. 01:21:56.310 --> 01:21:59.470 We don't do what we don't do a preliminary fights, 01:21:59.470 --> 01:22:03.750 all right I think this is interesting you guys 01:22:03.750 --> 01:22:08.649 Can even pick oh you can even pick a one so it 01:22:08.649 --> 01:22:13.250 doesn't even impact As we said it's a one fight 01:22:13.250 --> 01:22:15.949 card, so we're gonna make this a one fight card 01:22:19.069 --> 01:22:20.670 before i was really interrupted by something 01:22:20.670 --> 01:22:22.250 this guy won't even pick so how are you gonna 01:22:22.250 --> 01:22:23.970 put your money on if he won't even put his money 01:22:23.970 --> 01:22:26.250 on a poor guy points on it you know what i mean 01:22:26.250 --> 01:22:29.109 well here's the thing right uh if canel doesn't 01:22:29.109 --> 01:22:31.010 land something devastating to change this fight 01:22:31.010 --> 01:22:33.109 in the first in the in the first half of the 01:22:33.109 --> 01:22:34.729 fight i think there's gonna go i think it's gonna 01:22:34.729 --> 01:22:36.109 start going south i think this is gonna be a 01:22:36.109 --> 01:22:38.470 really action -packed fight to start off. I think 01:22:38.470 --> 01:22:40.069 it might be an action fight in the second half 01:22:40.069 --> 01:22:41.350 of the fight. I just think it needs to get the 01:22:41.350 --> 01:22:44.069 better of it. I think this is a sleeper for fight 01:22:44.069 --> 01:22:46.229 of the year. I think this is going to be a really 01:22:46.229 --> 01:22:47.770 entertaining fight. I can't see it not being 01:22:47.770 --> 01:22:50.729 entertaining because either way, right? And Billy's 01:22:50.729 --> 01:22:53.430 going to go at him. And in Matt's

theory, he's 01:22:53.430 --> 01:22:55.869 going to get caught doing that. Well, either 01:22:55.869 --> 01:22:57.789 way, then that will be the ability to go all 01:22:57.789 --> 01:22:59.170 out, and Canelo's going to catch him in between 01:22:59.170 --> 01:23:01.090 shots. So that's still going to be a good fight. 01:23:01.250 --> 01:23:03.470 I think this has the formula to be a very, very, 01:23:03.470 --> 01:23:05.130 very good fight. I just think if Billy's going 01:23:05.130 --> 01:23:06.109 to get the better of it, I'm going to take him 01:23:06.109 --> 01:23:14.640 by decision. Hey, guys, money on the floor. Canelo 01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:19.279 Alvarez by knockout, plus 350. It's money on 01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:23.359 the floor, guys. This guy can't see Canelo. What 01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:25.560 are the odds right now for this fight, just a 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.569 money line? Canelo is the favorite. Canelo was 01:23:28.569 --> 01:23:33.310 minus 330. Christian and Billy's plus 260. There's 01:23:33.310 --> 01:23:34.609 definitely some money on the floor. You're right 01:23:34.609 --> 01:23:43.779 about that. Somebody tell Sibby Box to mind his 01:23:43.779 --> 01:23:47.699 business. Boss Yacht thinks Canelo's going to 01:23:47.699 --> 01:23:51.779 quit on his school. That'll never happen. I can't 01:23:51.779 --> 01:23:54.960 see that. I don't see that happening. Matt, what's 01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:59.430 your confidence level on Canelo? Give me Cinco. 01:24:01.100 --> 01:24:05.869 Cinco. I will take five as well. You're five 01:24:05.869 --> 01:24:10.550 on Nbili? Nbili by decision, and I'm a five. 01:24:11.050 --> 01:24:13.989 Canelo knockout, five. Now, we're on the opposite 01:24:13.989 --> 01:24:17.770 end. So, next week, either you will be in the 01:24:17.770 --> 01:24:23.229 lead, or I will be further up your ass with my 01:24:23.229 --> 01:24:26.039 foot. Let me tell you something to the fans. 01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:30.020 Once I take the lead, I won't bust this whole 01:24:30.020 --> 01:24:33.119 Matt sandbagging thing that he's trying to do. 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:36.260 I won't do any of that. I will keep defending 01:24:36.260 --> 01:24:38.960 it. Bro, you can't do that because you think 01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:40.819 that Tyson Fury is going to beat Anthony Joshua. 01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:45.060 I do. I do. Yeah, and I don't. I know. So we're 01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:47.060 going to do opposite ends anyway. But it doesn't 01:24:47.060 --> 01:24:48.800 matter. I would never attempt it, right? Because 01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:50.460 I could just say, oh, I watched the thing and 01:24:50.460 --> 01:24:52.100 I think Joshua's going to win it. I'm not going 01:24:52.100 --> 01:24:55.869 to do that. Yeah, but it is close. Ezra gained 01:24:55.869 --> 01:24:58.750 another point last week with the Dalton Smith. 01:24:59.210 --> 01:25:01.449 I believe, was it Dalton Smith or was it the 01:25:01.449 --> 01:25:04.770 Shacky Foster? It was the Shacky Foster decision. 01:25:05.210 --> 01:25:08.970 Yeah, I took a Shacky by knockout. That was close 01:25:08.970 --> 01:25:11.010 for that last round. You know what's so funny? 01:25:11.090 --> 01:25:14.029 I said rounds 11 through 12. Yeah, I was like, 01:25:14.029 --> 01:25:19.029 oh no. That brought Ezra within four points. 01:25:19.210 --> 01:25:22.289 So after this week, he will either potentially 01:25:22.289 --> 01:25:26.470 be up one or two points or Matt will be up nine 01:25:26.470 --> 01:25:35.180 or ten points. No. your math is wrong your math 01:25:35.180 --> 01:25:39.260 is way wrong you're up four points yeah so if 01:25:39.260 --> 01:25:42.199 you get oh i forgot to subtract i forgot to subtract 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:46.779 i forgot no no it's not that i it's not that 01:25:46.779 --> 01:25:48.539 my math was wrong my math was right i forgot 01:25:48.539 --> 01:25:55.340 a step i'm just saying it's not that my math 01:25:55.340 --> 01:25:57.279 was wrong i did the math right i forgot a step 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.670 the surgery was successful But the patient died. 01:26:07.529 --> 01:26:09.489 That's always my favorite part of these shows. 01:26:10.630 --> 01:26:14.189 We had a successful surgery, but there were some 01:26:14.189 --> 01:26:18.909 complications. As we close up the show before 01:26:18.909 --> 01:26:21.689 we move off the picks here, I want to say your 01:26:21.689 --> 01:26:24.850 guys' record is fantastic. Matt, 73 -21 because 01:26:24.850 --> 01:26:27.229 you got the extra for Big Lex, not the little 01:26:27.229 --> 01:26:31.300 one. And then Ezra, 72 -21. You know, if you 01:26:31.300 --> 01:26:34.039 eliminated those nonsense fights, you'd realize 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:37.470 I'm winning, right? No, no, no. He only got one 01:26:37.470 --> 01:26:40.270 extra point for that. Oh, was he? Oh, okay. Yeah, 01:26:40.270 --> 01:26:43.529 and that was the only one. You didn't get subtracted 01:26:43.529 --> 01:26:45.409 any points for those fights, either. Oh, okay. 01:26:45.609 --> 01:26:47.329 I was like, I didn't see that. No, those were 01:26:47.329 --> 01:26:50.430 completely bonus fights. Shout out to Big Lex, 01:26:50.470 --> 01:26:53.609 not the little one. And since we're here, we're 01:26:53.609 --> 01:26:55.689 talking about a woman that Baby Lex left for 01:26:55.689 --> 01:26:57.729 the little one. Can you read hip -hop music real 01:26:57.729 --> 01:27:00.409 quick? Oh, shit. Do I have the music queued up? 01:27:01.930 --> 01:27:11.510 Don't hit his music. There you go. All right. 01:27:11.569 --> 01:27:13.890 Now, usually the rumor report is going to be 01:27:13.890 --> 01:27:19.289 on the Brunch Boxing 999 tier, which you guys 01:27:19.289 --> 01:27:22.189 should go subscribe to. But I'm going to give 01:27:22.189 --> 01:27:26.199 y 'all a little nugget. Word on the street. Word 01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:29.359 on the street is that Clarissa Shields' next 01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:33.319

fight is being finalized for February. The quote 01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:37.350 will be back in February. If you want to know 01:27:37.350 --> 01:27:39.729 who the opponent is, you're going to have to 01:27:39.729 --> 01:27:44.369 sign up. Sorry. Sorry, boys. Sorry, boys. You're 01:27:44.369 --> 01:27:46.510 going to have to sign up. Make sure you go subscribe. 01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:49.310 Go subscribe, ladies and gentlemen. Speaking 01:27:49.310 --> 01:27:51.329 of the member platform, wait. Do you have more 01:27:51.329 --> 01:27:53.970 on the rumor report here before I ask? No. No, 01:27:53.989 --> 01:27:56.409 they got to pay for that. Okay, okay. Before 01:27:56.409 --> 01:27:58.770 we move on from that, you mentioned the member 01:27:58.770 --> 01:28:01.869 platform. We discussed adding a feature to the 01:28:01.869 --> 01:28:05.920 top tier. Are we adding them to the... the pound 01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:13.810 -for -pound ranking panel. Fuck no. We discussed 01:28:13.810 --> 01:28:16.609 it. I wanted to know if it was going to happen. 01:28:17.409 --> 01:28:19.909 Come on, man. They don't know. Listen, you got 01:28:19.909 --> 01:28:21.630 a guy in here saying that Canelo's going to quit 01:28:21.630 --> 01:28:23.630 on his school. You think he should be on the 01:28:23.630 --> 01:28:25.829 pound -for -pound panel? If he's paying the $12 01:28:25.829 --> 01:28:28.590 .99 that YouTube is upcharging after we set the 01:28:28.590 --> 01:28:32.439 price, absolutely. Yeah, that's true. That's 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:34.579 true. You know what he said about the YouTube 01:28:34.579 --> 01:28:37.609 upcharge? Is we still kept our price though? 01:28:40.510 --> 01:28:53.649 Hey, there's a reason why we did that Do you 01:28:53.649 --> 01:28:56.890 know the reason why we did that YouTube does 01:28:56.890 --> 01:28:59.229 not allow you to change the prices once you said 01:28:59.229 --> 01:29:05.220 it I tried to change the price Man it all didn't 01:29:05.220 --> 01:29:08.140 allow you after the show run a poll on the brunch 01:29:08.140 --> 01:29:10.920 boxing Twitter page for people to oh Actually, 01:29:11.060 --> 01:29:12.640 we have the pics context go to brunch boxing 01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:14.640 comm slash picks enter your pick for the fight 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.479 Make sure you go and try to take a J row down 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:20.949 to win Ezra's money I was thinking should we 01:29:20.949 --> 01:29:23.930 make these last few pigs more valuable than the 01:29:23.930 --> 01:29:30.840 other pigs? Great That's a horrible idea. It's 01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:32.939 like Double Jeopardy. But a great comment from 01:29:32.939 --> 01:29:35.960 Boxing Guru. Ezra, nice Halloween costume. What 01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:40.579 are you dressed as, Ezra? As a fashionista, I 01:29:40.579 --> 01:29:45.060 guess. You know what? We didn't say it all show, 01:29:45.220 --> 01:29:46.560 actually. Didn't say it at the beginning. Didn't 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.359 say it. Happy Halloween, everyone. Yeah, this 01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:50.520 has not been a Halloween -themed show at all. 01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:52.920 At all. There was no Halloween theme. We didn't 01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.600 even ask. You did it last week with your Chop 01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:57.859 Chop graphics and everything. You were a week 01:29:57.859 --> 01:30:00.649 early. There's no spirit in this show. There's 01:30:00.649 --> 01:30:03.510 no Halloween spirit. Bro, you did this entire 01:30:03.510 --> 01:30:07.130 show with your mask on, and you're telling me 01:30:07.130 --> 01:30:12.199 this is a Halloween thing. Come on, man. You 01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:14.800 know what's funny, though, is the joke about 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.800 my outfit, which is a great outfit, by the way. 01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:19.260 But the joke about this, it just shows me that 01:30:19.260 --> 01:30:20.640 when Oteef was talking about that, it was so 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:23.420 over everyone's head that they had no idea what 01:30:23.420 --> 01:30:25.060 they were talking about. This is why people don't 01:30:25.060 --> 01:30:27.880 understand. Why does Tink's picture get all these 01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:29.460 views and everything like that? Because you don't 01:30:29.460 --> 01:30:32.069 understand fashion. That's why. Yeah, I keep 01:30:32.069 --> 01:30:34.609 saying that. JB, you say you're dressed as a 01:30:34.609 --> 01:30:39.149 Bass Pro Shop salesman. Yeah, as it looks like 01:30:39.149 --> 01:30:44.479 he works at Dick's. Hey, yo. All right. Anything 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.140 else you guys have to talk about today? Nah. 01:30:47.340 --> 01:30:50.960 Hey, listen. I might do a post -fight live from 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:55.270 a New York City bar. I might do a live post -fight 01:30:55.270 --> 01:30:58.470 with some special guests. Some special boxing 01:30:58.470 --> 01:31:01.840 guests. It's going to be a real... Big boxing 01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:06.689 canola party. Okay. Someone says Ezra's dressed 01:31:06.689 --> 01:31:08.069 like he's about to go on a Chris Hansen show. 01:31:08.590 --> 01:31:15.649 Damn. As Chris Hansen? I don't think so. I don't 01:31:15.649 --> 01:31:18.649 think nobody. I just came here to order pizza. 01:31:18.729 --> 01:31:21.670 Let me tell you something. All these slobs commenting 01:31:21.670 --> 01:31:23.510 on their computer while they're dressed like 01:31:23.510 --> 01:31:25.710 crap in front of the computer. I'm sorry. I don't 01:31:25.710 --> 01:31:27.670 take it as offense. Where does a badger want 01:31:27.670 --> 01:31:30.989 it? A bunch of slobs with a bunch of cheetah 01:31:30.989 --> 01:31:33.770 fingers typing up, oh, he looks like he's like 01:31:33.770 --> 01:31:37.470 this. You see me out. You pay the $9 .99 and 01:31:37.470 --> 01:31:40.430 you see me out. And let's see who it is, buddy. 01:31:40.829 --> 01:31:46.569 Yeah. Come on, man. Who's the basketball player 01:31:46.569 --> 01:31:49.670 that said after the loss, hey, you guys got to 01:31:49.670 --> 01:31:54.130 go back to your miserable lives? They're right 01:31:54.130 --> 01:31:56.090 there typing up, oh, who's going to dress like 01:31:56.090 --> 01:31:57.750 this? Let me tell you something. Go look in the 01:31:57.750 --> 01:32:00.989 mirror. Go ask your wife. Would you like me to 01:32:00.989 --> 01:32:03.310 dress this way? Would you like me to maintain 01:32:03.310 --> 01:32:09.329 myself the way this guy does? You know what? 01:32:09.770 --> 01:32:11.949 This has been another edition of Bunch Boxing. 01:32:12.750 --> 01:32:19.189 He is our CEO. He is our host. He is our producer. 01:32:20.369 --> 01:32:24.890 I am Matt. We are Brunch Boxing. And we are out. 01:32:25.229 --> 01:32:30.529 For all your fight news, it's not fight news. 01:32:30.609 --> 01:32:35.109 It's Brunch Boxing. Brunch Boxing, man. Brunch 01:32:35.109 --> 01:32:49.479 Boxing, man. Hey, I don't even know what brunch 01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:51.079 boxing is, but shout out to them.