บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Emmanuel Navarrete conspiracies, ProBox good, Don King bad?

00:04:55.430 be a sharp, sharp turn. Yeah. Like, listen, man, 00:04:55.470 --> 00:04:57.370 if you want to wire me a million bucks, Turkey, 00:04:57.529 --> 00:05:03.069 like, you can pay me enough. You can pay me, 00:05:03.089 --> 00:05:06.550 but I ain't going to suck your dick. I will. 00:05:07.310 --> 00:05:09.509 I'm the opposite. I will suck the money out of 00:05:09.509 --> 00:05:17.230 your ass if it's enough. I agree. I agree. I 00:05:17.230 --> 00:05:20.389 was going to say, we're not in a bargaining position 00:05:20.389 --> 00:05:24.850 here. We got it. Let's move into the recaps. 00:05:25.310 --> 00:05:29.189 Fucking Queensberry. I only watched one of these, 00:05:29.290 --> 00:05:33.730 and it was on May 10th. Anthony Caccacci stops 00:05:33.730 --> 00:05:39.709 Lee Wood. It was a corner stoppage. A towel came 00:05:39.709 --> 00:05:46.389 in. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. But it was... Kakach 00:05:46.389 --> 00:05:48.870 is on that... Kakach is on that tour beating 00:05:48.870 --> 00:05:56.389 up all the, like, DAZN Brits. Yeah. I'm gonna 00:05:56.389 --> 00:05:58.149 say this right now to the people listening. I'm 00:05:58.149 --> 00:05:59.810 not gonna be talking much because I missed... 00:05:59.810 --> 00:06:02.689 I missed a lot of the boxing this weekend, unfortunately. 00:06:03.050 --> 00:06:05.430 So, you guys are blessed to not hear a lot from 00:06:05.430 --> 00:06:09.750 me. Damn it. Yeah, I mean, he beat Cordina Warrington 00:06:09.750 --> 00:06:13.050 and now Wood, and it's like... All three of these 00:06:13.050 --> 00:06:16.910 guys were washed. But also, Kakashi's kind of 00:06:16.910 --> 00:06:19.490 washed because he is 36 at super featherweight. 00:06:20.310 --> 00:06:26.230 That's old. That's fucking old. I don't know. 00:06:26.829 --> 00:06:29.689 Who does he fight next? Because he could totally 00:06:29.689 --> 00:06:35.329 fight Navarrete or Oshaki Foster, but okay. Yeah. 00:06:36.389 --> 00:06:41.189 I don't see him doing... Why go through the other 00:06:41.189 --> 00:06:43.470 guys at super featherweight? You don't have... 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.500 Oh, he has the IBO title. Fucking excuse me. 00:06:46.699 --> 00:06:51.439 I think he should just keep... These guys are 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.579 still world -ranked, but keep beating the domestic 00:06:54.579 --> 00:06:56.959 guys. The title will come up for you, hopefully, 00:06:57.060 --> 00:07:00.019 before you retire, and you get your shot that 00:07:00.019 --> 00:07:06.500 way. Instead of, let me fight an actual dangerous, 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:16.680 dangerous titleist. Like Oshaki Foster. Oshaki 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.879 Foster is very dangerous, man. I agree. Yeah, 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:24.740 that's dangerous, especially for an old... I 00:07:24.740 --> 00:07:27.259 think Nick Paul's ass. I think Espinoza has ass. 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:32.220 I think Angelo's ass. Oshaki Foster is the prime 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:36.339 126 fighter. It's Superfeather. Superfeather. 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:39.449 Superfeather. It's 130. We're at 130. Oh, sorry, 00:07:39.870 --> 00:07:43.250 130, 130. I better take that back. 130, Oshagie 00:07:43.250 --> 00:07:46.750 Foster is the best. Also, I am definitely not 00:07:46.750 --> 00:07:51.029 being sponsored by Riyad to say this. Is Oshagie 00:07:51.029 --> 00:07:56.910 Foster a Riyad guy? I don't think so. I know 00:07:56.910 --> 00:08:00.810 Raymond. Ray Ford probably is. Yeah, Ray Ford 00:08:00.810 --> 00:08:04.670 is. They definitely won't be. I'm just picking 00:08:04.670 --> 00:08:12.399 up my ass right now. I don't know. Moving to 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:18.480 Pro Box Good. Only one I watched was Erickson 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:23.459 Lubin. Stops RGL Holmes in the 11th. Man, I was 00:08:23.459 --> 00:08:26.800 kind of high on RGL Holmes. I was thinking he 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.420 was going to... I said he can make it grimy. 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:36.740 And he did. But... That was still pretty hard 00:08:36.740 --> 00:08:39.320 to watch. Like, he didn't really seem too interested 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:46.960 in engaging and more than clinching. Yeah. I 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:51.019 mean, Lubin got it done, though. He did. That's, 00:08:51.019 --> 00:08:56.840 like, there's the Pro Box guarantee. Lubin wasn't 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.340 going to settle for that win. You make it or 00:09:00.340 --> 00:09:04.799 you break it. Yeah. Especially Lubin totally 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:10.220 needed that. The inactivity wasn't great for 00:09:10.220 --> 00:09:13.659 him. He's only 29, which is really surprising. 00:09:14.139 --> 00:09:17.179 It feels like he's been around forever. He kind 00:09:17.179 --> 00:09:22.279 of has been. He got sent to space in 2017 against 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:27.080 Charlo. Got the fucking Christ beaten out of 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:31.639 him in 22. Lubin really lubed up his career today. 00:09:32.490 --> 00:09:36.129 He's still around. I think, like, honestly, like, 00:09:36.210 --> 00:09:39.889 as much as I'll cry about Lubin robbing Ramos, 00:09:40.169 --> 00:09:45.610 Jesus Ramos, like, he's still in there. He's 00:09:45.610 --> 00:09:47.929 definitely not beating a top guy, but, like, 00:09:47.990 --> 00:09:52.789 you know, if Xander Zayas wants, like, that real 00:09:52.789 --> 00:09:57.509 floor raiser. He wants some serious smoke, not 00:09:57.509 --> 00:10:01.470 just the top right protection. Yeah, like. Like, 00:10:01.470 --> 00:10:05.190 Lubin's totally, like, a free, like, not free 00:10:05.190 --> 00:10:08.549 in regards of, like, a free win, but free in 00:10:08.549 --> 00:10:12.049 terms of, like, the schedule lines up, the money 00:10:12.049 --> 00:10:15.590 lines up, and, like, there's no promotional issues 00:10:15.590 --> 00:10:18.289 in the way. That fight's never going to happen. 00:10:20.190 --> 00:10:24.649 I can dream. I think it'd be good for Zayas. 00:10:24.730 --> 00:10:29.710 Or if

Lubin just is him at the age of 29. Like... 00:10:31.550 --> 00:10:36.649 Sure. Why not? Why not? What else is he going 00:10:36.649 --> 00:10:39.730 to do other than beat up the poor Probox guys? 00:10:40.990 --> 00:10:43.669 Or get beaten up by a Probox guy who turns out 00:10:43.669 --> 00:10:47.669 to be fucking amazing. Who knows? He could also 00:10:47.669 --> 00:10:50.830 fight Charles Conwell. Actually, I wouldn't mind 00:10:50.830 --> 00:10:52.549 a rematch with Fandora. That fight was pretty 00:10:52.549 --> 00:10:57.169 fun. Do you want to see Lubin get his face rearranged 00:10:57.169 --> 00:11:01.549 again? I mean, he knocked Fundora down with a 00:11:01.549 --> 00:11:05.090 fucking great shot. Like, it's not like Fundora's 00:11:05.090 --> 00:11:10.529 invincible. True. Yeah, that's true. Like, I'm 00:11:10.529 --> 00:11:14.909 sure if Lubin gets hit even slightly less, it's 00:11:14.909 --> 00:11:19.470 still more of a fight. Because I'm like, I don't 00:11:19.470 --> 00:11:21.669 think Fundora's fixed many of his problems either. 00:11:27.309 --> 00:11:44.269 What else is next? This one. This one. I'm sure 00:11:44.269 --> 00:11:51.750 Sebastian Garcia is still around. It's too older, 00:11:51.870 --> 00:12:01.639 guys. Yeah. Ray Murataya, UD over Zaur Abdullayev. 00:12:05.220 --> 00:12:10.700 I'm on the Ray Murataya train. Yeah. Fantastic. 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.379 Hey, Murataya's been good. He's Mexican. Yeah. 00:12:18.019 --> 00:12:23.080 He's been good. I don't think there's... Are 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.159 there guys that lightweight for him to step up 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:35.340 against? Not named Shakur. Or Tank. If they want 00:12:35.340 --> 00:12:38.059 to do a fight with... He's a top -ranked guy, 00:12:38.139 --> 00:12:44.720 though. Keyshawn Davis. Yeah, well... I think 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:49.100 Keyshawn beats him, though. Yeah. If they want 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:50.980 a lot of money, they can have Keyshawn versus... 00:12:50.980 --> 00:12:55.940 versus Raymond. And they can have Tank versus 00:12:55.940 --> 00:12:58.179 Shakur, and the winner of those two fights is 00:12:58.179 --> 00:13:02.019 Fight Pro Disputed. God. God. Shakur, Tank. But 00:13:02.019 --> 00:13:05.759 that will never happen. Yeah, no. Who knows, 00:13:05.860 --> 00:13:09.620 man? Turkey might make his action figures. No. 00:13:10.179 --> 00:13:12.679 Right again. But Tank's not doing that shit. 00:13:14.379 --> 00:13:22.159 Yeah. Yeah, very much. Very much for Murataya. 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.240 He's kind of got to sit still and wait for things 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.860 to sort themselves out. He's going to have to 00:13:27.860 --> 00:13:30.320 cross the street to get some of the better fights. 00:13:31.299 --> 00:13:37.620 Yep. Or move up. Yeah. Because it's kind of tied 00:13:37.620 --> 00:13:41.179 up. The names at the very top of the division 00:13:41.179 --> 00:13:49.139 are definitely a tough ask. Because it's Kishan,

00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:53.759 Tank, and Shakur. Lamont Roach is up there. Hey, 00:13:53.860 --> 00:13:55.940 you know what? If Roach, when, you know what? 00:13:55.980 --> 00:14:00.740 No, not if. When Roach loses the tank, then we 00:14:00.740 --> 00:14:04.340 can have a Murataya Roach and that'd be good. 00:14:05.299 --> 00:14:10.259 You think that Roach loses the tank again? What? 00:14:11.620 --> 00:14:13.600 You think that Roach loses the tank in the rematch? 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.570 I think he does. I think tank adjusts. Roach 00:14:17.570 --> 00:14:20.309 also, I don't doubt that Roach hasn't been training 00:14:20.309 --> 00:14:23.389 exactly the most, considering he's still on his 00:14:23.389 --> 00:14:29.049 victory lap tour after drawing with Tank. That's 00:14:29.049 --> 00:14:30.169 why I think they haven't made the fight yet. 00:14:30.330 --> 00:14:32.970 It's because Tank's waiting it out. Tank's probably 00:14:32.970 --> 00:14:35.649 been training. Tank's definitely been training. 00:14:35.750 --> 00:14:39.570 If he's not in trouble, he's training. That's 00:14:39.570 --> 00:14:43.019 usually how it's been. Yeah, but like roach has 00:14:43.019 --> 00:14:45.659 been like drinking at NBA games and shit and 00:14:45.659 --> 00:14:47.659 just showing up to like like he's made a lot 00:14:47.659 --> 00:14:49.700 of public Appearances he's been partying in public 00:14:49.700 --> 00:14:56.940 a lot. So I Think we'll see we'll run Sure, we'll 00:14:56.940 --> 00:15:02.799 enter thing. Yeah No, no Well, I mean it's it's 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.159 the tanks benefit to do the rematch sooner than 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:06.960 later because you don't let roach get back into 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:09.860 that training rhythm but that's a That's more 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:14.659 politics than boxing, really. Yeah. Emmanuel 00:15:14.659 --> 00:15:22.059 Navarrete versus Charlie Suarez. First question. 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.559 Was it a headbutt? Was it a punch? We saw the 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:31.059 video. It was a punch. Yeah. Okay, good. It was 00:15:31.059 --> 00:15:32.960 a punch. No, but, like, you don't even need, 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.080 like, the zoom in angle. Like, you could see 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.519 it. Like, in front of the referee. A punch land 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:43.220 and he starts bleeding. I remember this one day 00:15:43.220 --> 00:15:46.480 where Josh actually said that it's different 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.519 being ringside and different being a judge. Yeah. 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.460 I'm playing devil's advocate now. That's like 00:15:53.460 --> 00:15:58.899 Josh did with Ting. I'm sick of Navarrete though. 00:15:58.980 --> 00:16:01.480 He keeps getting these fucking bailouts every 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:07.320 time. He should have been stopped with Liam Wilson. 00:16:08.899 --> 00:16:11.860 Like, conveniently, he got enough of a rest for 00:16:11.860 --> 00:16:15.799 a bailout. The draw with Konsei Sao was a pretty 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.659 lucky bailout. Didn't get bailed out versus Berencik. 00:16:20.580 --> 00:16:24.779 No, he didn't. Berencik. I don't think he could 00:16:24.779 --> 00:16:26.639 have bailed him out there. And even then, some 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.980 of the scores were a little tight. The split 00:16:29.980 --> 00:16:34.259 decision. Yeah. So, like, they tried. Like, he's 00:16:34.259 --> 00:16:37.100 been under the top -ranked protection program. 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.200 His first title fight was against Isaac Dogme. 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.620 I remember the broadcast. I remember the color 00:16:45.620 --> 00:16:48.059 commentary. The color commentary for that fight, 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.259 they were talking about Dogme spars his dad and 00:16:50.259 --> 00:16:52.419 his brother and his cousin. That's how he trains. 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.320 No, this guy's peak top -ranked protection program. 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.399 Like, bro, there's no way. Like, Liam Wilson, 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.500 like, the Liam Wilson one drove me nuts. Because, 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:05.700 like, you literally gave him enough time to recover 00:17:05.700 --> 00:17:08.460 after Liam Wilson would just... beating the piss 00:17:08.460 --> 00:17:10.980 out of him. You beat the shit out of Valdez? 00:17:12.220 --> 00:17:15.460 No. I'll give him that. Actually, I will give 00:17:15.460 --> 00:17:18.980 him that one. I'm not gonna cape for Valdez either. 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.759 But, like, there's been so many, like, sketchy 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.940 calls and, like, funny matchmaking that's gone 00:17:25.940 --> 00:17:28.960 never its way that, like, come on, man. It happened 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:34.900 again. See you, Kim, Mr. Kirk. Fuck. No, bro, 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:40.940 I just... He's also a super feather. Maybe 130. 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.859 Look at the 130 names. You know what? You know, 00:17:45.859 --> 00:17:49.259 Shecky Foster and Kakash. Ray Ford, if you really. 00:17:49.980 --> 00:17:55.700 I don't know if he moves up. Keep doing it. I'm 00:17:55.700 --> 00:17:59.519 just, I don't want to see never. I need never 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:06.940 to just, like, not have a controversy. What about 00:18:06.940 --> 00:18:10.500 him making weight? Yeah, that too. Actually, 00:18:10.539 --> 00:18:13.240 the Liam Wilson fight also had some sketchy shit 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.759 with the weight. Liam Wilson, if you look at 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.140 Liam Wilson's weights, he always weighs in right 00:18:21.140 --> 00:18:25.099 at the limit, right? He weighed in at 126 for 00:18:25.099 --> 00:18:30.019 a fight at 130. Meanwhile, Navarette weighed 00:18:30.019 --> 00:18:32.940 in right under 130, just right at the limit. 00:18:35.230 --> 00:18:37.769 Lee Wilson has never weighed 126 pounds in his 00:18:37.769 --> 00:18:45.569 life. So that was the... There's my rant about

00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:47.849 never. There's my top -ranked protection program 00:18:47.849 --> 00:18:51.869 conspiracy. You think the Liam Wilson scale was 00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:57.190 fiddled? It was fiddled. It had to have been. 00:18:57.269 --> 00:19:00.289 Liam Wilson has never weighed 126 pounds in his 00:19:00.289 --> 00:19:03.890 life. And conveniently, he chooses to, like, 00:19:03.910 --> 00:19:07.549 conveniently, he shows up at 126 pounds, like, 00:19:07.670 --> 00:19:10.589 the same day that Navarrete, like, barely squeezes 00:19:10.589 --> 00:19:13.470 under the scales. He's also a fucking weight 00:19:13.470 --> 00:19:15.769 bully, too. I bet you, I'm hearing to you, he's, 00:19:15.829 --> 00:19:19.509 like, 160, dude. Yeah. Well, like, he's been 00:19:19.509 --> 00:19:21.549 looking fat lately, too, which is, like, how 00:19:21.549 --> 00:19:23.750 do you look fat? Like, how do you show up to 00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:26.190 fight? Like, you show up emaciated to the weigh 00:19:26.190 --> 00:19:27.789 -in, and then you show up kind of chubby the 00:19:27.789 --> 00:19:30.309 next day. Crazy. I don't know how the fuck you 00:19:30.309 --> 00:19:33.829 eat that. Like, I was gonna say, like, even guys 00:19:33.829 --> 00:19:35.710 like Rowley, like, I've seen Rowley show up at 00:19:35.710 --> 00:19:38.470 180 for a fight at 135, but, like, he's still 00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:40.910 got his six -pack, right? Like, he's not fat. 00:19:43.690 --> 00:19:47.910 He's just heavy. He's just heavy? Like, yeah, 00:19:48.150 --> 00:19:50.309 he's... Rowley's a mad weight bully, but also, 00:19:50.390 --> 00:19:54.509 like, I have no idea how bad Navarrete does it, 00:19:54.529 --> 00:19:58.369 where he has actual, like, love handles. Yeah, 00:19:58.390 --> 00:20:02.450 he did in this fight. I couldn't stop looking 00:20:02.450 --> 00:20:09.829 at him. It's so frustrating because you're like, 00:20:09.930 --> 00:20:14.450 this guy is kind of stinky. If he had different 00:20:14.450 --> 00:20:19.170 matchmaking, he probably still wouldn't have 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:22.549 a world title. Why do you think he's being protected 00:20:22.549 --> 00:20:26.109 by top rank? Let's ask that question. He's a 00:20:26.109 --> 00:20:27.809 Mexican fighter in the lower weight classes. 00:20:29.390 --> 00:20:33.970 And top rank doesn't have many. Especially at 00:20:33.970 --> 00:20:38.009 the time he came around. Like, if you look, if 00:20:38.009 --> 00:20:40.769 you remember his fights, his fight with, uh, 00:20:40.950 --> 00:20:44.490 Isaac Dogway, like, basically, they had him and 00:20:44.490 --> 00:20:49.269 Valdez for lower weight class, like, Latin American 00:20:49.269 --> 00:20:52.789 fighters. That was really, yeah, you're right. 00:20:54.210 --> 00:20:56.759 Because, like, they didn't really... Because, 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.700 like, yeah, like, you can technically say guys 00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:01.960 like Burchelt were around, but, like, Burchelt 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:06.000 wasn't really a super top -ranked aligned one. 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.880 Yeah. Like, you have Valdez and you have Navarrete 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:14.279 when they built him. And even now, like, yeah, 00:21:14.299 --> 00:21:16.019 they have Moritaya and everything, but, like, 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:19.259 Navarrete still sells tickets. Somewhat, yeah. 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:23.960 So... People still tune in. Like, clearly there's 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.339 a monetary incentive to keeping him in world 00:21:26.339 --> 00:21:31.440 title business. But also, like, I just, like, 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:35.319 I just think he also just has really good luck 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:38.660 that, like, there's been so many opportunities 00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:43.720 for him to just, like, he gets that nod. Because 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.000 it can't all have been blatant corruption, right? 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.200 There's some incompetence in there, too. You 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:54.460 also might be favored by God. Yeah. He's got 00:21:54.460 --> 00:21:57.940 the heavenly mandate to hold on to the WBO forever. 00:21:59.779 --> 00:22:04.579 Gross. Gross. Charlie Suarez should have won 00:22:04.579 --> 00:22:07.420 that fight. Literally fucking punched him in 00:22:07.420 --> 00:22:10.940 the face. Whatever. They'll probably run it back 00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:14.460 and then Navarrete will win a weird decision. 00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:19.880 Unanimous. Yeah, weird unanimous decision while 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:24.099 weighing in at, like, 220 on fight night. Charlie 00:22:24.099 --> 00:22:27.180 Suarez happens to magically weigh in at, like, 00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:35.839 120. Yeah. Like, I swear, like, you notice that, 00:22:35.859 --> 00:22:39.259 like, every time they, like, you can tell when 00:22:39.259 --> 00:22:40.960 the scale is rigged and when it isn't because 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.369 whenever the scale, like... isn't rigged this 00:22:44.369 --> 00:22:46.450 is the most conspiracy theory i'll ever get in 00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:48.730 my life by the way and it's about emmanuel navarrete 00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:53.230 let's hear it but basically like you notice he 00:22:53.230 --> 00:22:55.710 like every time you get a news report of oh he 00:22:55.710 --> 00:22:57.829 almost passed out or he failed his first way 00:22:57.829 --> 00:23:00.910 and it's always like his opponent weighs in fine 00:23:00.910 --> 00:23:03.589 and when it's like whenever he doesn't struggle 00:23:03.589 --> 00:23:06.369 his opponent is like suspiciously liked or it's 00:23:06.369 --> 00:23:10.859 valdez he's another fucking weight bully Well, 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.099 why would they have the opponent weigh less? 00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.740 Let me ask you that. Well, because it's the same 00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:20.619 scale. They dial the scale down so that Nav can 00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:23.299 make weight.

Especially because they use digital 00:23:23.299 --> 00:23:26.460 scales nowadays. You put a bit of weight on the 00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:29.119 scale, you zero it, and then it doesn't register 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:34.960 that. So you're calling Nav a fatty then? Have 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.509 you seen him in the ring? He is a fatty! I'm 00:23:38.509 --> 00:23:40.210 trying to get a rise out of Josh. I just want 00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:42.049 to hear him get mad. No, he is a fatty, bro. 00:23:42.990 --> 00:23:46.029 I want to hear him get mad. I like angry Josh. 00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:50.029 Angry Josh is awesome. This is bleak. This is 00:23:50.029 --> 00:23:52.450 the only time I'll get actually mad, too. Like, 00:23:52.450 --> 00:23:56.569 what the fuck? I guarantee you they're going 00:23:56.569 --> 00:23:59.710 to have a Nav versus Keyshawn fight. Please, 00:23:59.769 --> 00:24:03.289 bro. I need Keyshawn to win that. They're going 00:24:03.289 --> 00:24:05.819 to do something like that, dude. They're going 00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:10.119 to cash Nav out soon, probably, because he's 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:16.720 30, and you can't keep doing this shit, hopefully. 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.240 You know, maybe I'll be surprised. I'll be 40, 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.880 and he'll be like 50, and I'll be like, God damn 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.259 it, does this guy still have the WBO title? He 00:24:29.259 --> 00:24:30.559 can't keep getting away with it. Then you'll 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.400 come back and have a... Do you have a comeback 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.619 run, too, with Top Rank? Fuck it, bro. I'll go 00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:39.140 on Ozempic and beat him myself if I'm 40 and 00:24:39.140 --> 00:24:42.640 this guy still has a title. Yeah, you probably 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.619 would be him. If this guy still has a title when 00:24:47.619 --> 00:24:53.140 I'm 40, I'll come back, bro. Fuck. Oh, well, 00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:55.140 that's why I'm out of steam now. Let's go into 00:24:55.140 --> 00:24:57.039 the previews. No, there's Sunday. Sunday had 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:01.599 some stuff. Yeah. I only picked up two of them. 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.640 Hayato Tsutsumi stops Jaime Arboleda in this 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:14.799 third. And Puma Martinez UD over Kazuto Ioka. 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:20.640 No surprises there. Did you watch this one? No, 00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:23.799 I didn't. I haven't found a way to get on it. 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.839 I parted this shit. And I mean, I bought this 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:32.660 legally. They suck the money out of my ass. They 00:25:32.660 --> 00:25:40.660 suck the money out of my ass for this. Honestly? 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:49.559 Closer than the... I think the 113 -114 card 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:56.460 is the correct one. Really? Razor thin. Well, 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:01.480 it's like... Again. I'm not going to say that 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.180 Ioka was hard done

because in close fights like 00:26:04.180 --> 00:26:07.180 that, it can go either way. Like a fight, like 00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:12.839 nice competitively fought. It really depends 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.240 what you look for in a round and then you shade 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.220 it. That decides who it gets shaded towards. 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:24.059 But also consider that Ioka is not the most friendly 00:26:24.059 --> 00:26:28.160 with the Japanese commission. He's from Osaka. 00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:32.140 They don't like him. They don't like Osaka people. 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:39.059 They don't like Yoko much. The commission. Yoko's 00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:42.279 had his beefs with the Japanese commission. So, 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.960 not to say that he got hard done by, because 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.539 no, Fernando Martinez totally won that fight. 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.720 But also, it would make sense if the commission 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:54.880 put judges that are more friendly to Martinez's 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.789 style. Their styles are pretty similar, aren't 00:26:59.789 --> 00:27:05.109 they? Yeah. Clobbering types. Clobbering types, 00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:07.730 but I guess it's more of a... You know what I 00:27:07.730 --> 00:27:10.589 mean? Judges that would be more sympathetic towards 00:27:10.589 --> 00:27:13.490 Martinez. Yeah, I see what you mean. And how 00:27:13.490 --> 00:27:14.829 he operates. It probably was a good fight, though. 00:27:15.509 --> 00:27:18.150 It was a good fight. Better than the first one, 00:27:18.190 --> 00:27:24.289 actually. Oh, that first one had the 120 card. 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.579 108 cards? How can you make it more clear that 00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:31.839 you just fucking hate the Yoka? That's what I 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.119 mean, though. It's not like it's an alien concept 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.579 for Yoka to get fucking jobbed in Japan because 00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:42.539 they don't like him. But that's just explaining 00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:45.200 the disparity in the cards. I'm sure they could 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:51.039 easily bid 2 -0 a Yoka or 1 -1 a piece in a neutral 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.859 location. Because these are razor -thin fights. 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:01.019 But it is what it is. Ioka is old. Old as fuck, 00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:04.519 actually, for super flyweight. He's 36, I think. 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:10.779 Yes. But he can still fight Estrada and stuff. 00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:17.240 There's still guys. Oh, Estrada's aged out as 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.930 well. Estrada's also old. Like, I'm not saying 00:28:20.930 --> 00:28:23.190 Yoka should go fight Bam because, like, come 00:28:23.190 --> 00:28:27.549 on, man. It's not happening. Don't do that. Not 00:28:27.549 --> 00:28:31.549 happening. All right. But Bam versus Toro, though? 00:28:33.009 --> 00:28:35.349 Hell, he can run it back with Kosei Tanaka, too. 00:28:36.109 --> 00:28:39.730 That was a fun fight the first time. Kosei Tanaka, 00:28:39.829 --> 00:28:44.670 I like him. He comes to rumble. Yeah. Like, there's 00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:46.769 still options for Yoka. This doesn't have to 00:28:46.769 --> 00:28:50.529 be the end just because he lost to, like, close 00:28:50.529 --> 00:28:57.130 close decisions um is fighting the uh african 00:28:57.130 --> 00:29:09.069 dude that beat jose tanaka listen man bam bam's 00:29:09.069 --> 00:29:13.220 in a situation where like He's basically beaten 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:18.180 all the guys at his relative division, but he's 00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:20.680 also pretty small, so he can only move up so 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:26.400 much. And then move up? Fight Nakatani? Yeah. 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:35.299 I rate Nakatani. I love Bam, but Nakatani is... 00:29:35.299 --> 00:29:41.289 Be too big. A demon. He's a demon. I think Bam. 00:29:42.170 --> 00:29:46.869 Honestly. Yeah. I think Bam would win the fight. 00:29:47.849 --> 00:29:50.549 I think it'd be a fun fight. Fun as fuck. But 00:29:50.549 --> 00:29:53.009 also... For sure, for sure. Nakatani is pretty 00:29:53.009 --> 00:30:00.650 huge. And it's not just his size. Like, he definitely... 00:30:00.650 --> 00:30:08.799 Are you insinuating that? I'm going to go over 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.779 here and make a boxing fucking circle. Do you 00:30:10.779 --> 00:30:14.380 regret it? Oh, man. I'm just saying Nakatani 00:30:14.380 --> 00:30:19.420 is not only a big boy for 118. He has definitely 00:30:19.420 --> 00:30:23.259 bigger reach than Bam. It's just the count. If 00:30:23.259 --> 00:30:29.000 he can sneak a counter in, it's so... Bam, Bam. 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.579 I'm not sure Bam can take it. I think he can 00:30:33.579 --> 00:30:36.710 take it. Honestly, he can. A couple, though. 00:30:36.769 --> 00:30:39.009 Only a couple. Yeah, I was about to say, it's 00:30:39.009 --> 00:30:42.250 like... You gotta say that Bam also... Bam could 00:30:42.250 --> 00:30:45.529 also counter a lot, too. Bam is great at countering. 00:30:46.529 --> 00:30:48.930 So... I think it'd be a good fight, but... It 00:30:48.930 --> 00:30:51.269 would be a great... I think it would be... It 00:30:51.269 --> 00:30:54.329 could either go the way of Spence versus Sean 00:30:54.329 --> 00:30:58.450 Porter. Actually, maybe it might just go the 00:30:58.450 --> 00:31:00.990 way of Spence versus Sean Porter, honestly. I 00:31:00.990 --> 00:31:05.089 don't know. Again, still, like, the Nakatani 00:31:05.089 --> 00:31:08.069 moment that sticks out in my head, even as he 00:31:08.069 --> 00:31:11.410 racks up even more knockouts and stoppages, is 00:31:11.410 --> 00:31:14.029 still, like, him fucking, like, killing Andrew 00:31:14.029 --> 00:31:18.690 Maloney. Oh, God, that was a scary -ass knockout. 00:31:19.589 --> 00:31:23.450 Yeah, like, you just, like, he just rolled in 00:31:23.450 --> 00:31:28.730 the entire fight. Wasn't

competitive. Last round, 00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:32.049 Maloney's going for it. As best as he can, he's 00:31:32.049 --> 00:31:35.150 ragged, and Nakatani just calmly steps back and 00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:40.170 puts him out the pasture. I swear, this guy couldn't 00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:42.890 even breathe. Didn't even breathe for a couple 00:31:42.890 --> 00:31:46.289 seconds after getting caught like that. I thought 00:31:46.289 --> 00:31:50.529 he was seriously hurt. Yeah, no, like... It's 00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:52.789 not just... Okay, yeah, go ahead. Oh, I was just 00:31:52.789 --> 00:31:54.910 gonna say that Puma should probably look at whoever 00:31:54.910 --> 00:32:01.640 the IBF champ is, because Bam is unifying. titles 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.660 i'm yeah kafu is fun but like you're not on bam's 00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:09.259 level and we're gonna see oh yeah we're gonna 00:32:09.259 --> 00:32:11.500 see like there's levels to this it's gonna be 00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:14.779 one of those situations well i mean you never 00:32:14.779 --> 00:32:16.980 know bam's special we've known bam was special 00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:20.720 since uh he came in on short notice against quadris 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.869 and just obliterated him yeah like Not just like 00:32:26.869 --> 00:32:30.150 Merc them in like, this is a young guy at the 00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:34.289 age, at the division. It's like, holy shit, he's 00:32:34.289 --> 00:32:40.029 sick. He's sick as fuck. Killed him. Killed the 00:32:40.029 --> 00:32:44.210 queen right there. Same with, what's his name? 00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:53.720 Rungusai. Yeah. I just pulled up the Nakatani 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.079 knockout and oh my god, bro, he's twitching on 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.900 the ground for a good couple seconds after that. 00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:06.339 Bleeding out his mouth. Bleeding from his nose. 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.900 And his eyes. That was fucking scary, man. Scary, 00:33:13.940 --> 00:33:16.660 yeah. And it was calm, too. It's not even like 00:33:16.660 --> 00:33:19.319 Nakatani rushed it or anything. Just a perfect 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:26.240 shot. Oh, my God. Anyways, let's go to the... 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:27.859 Is that it for the reviews? That's it for the 00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:30.900 recaps. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me do one of these. 00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:33.599 You ever feel like your online life isn't really 00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.819 yours? 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Alright, moving into the previews. 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:40.539 Friday, fucking May 23rd. It's a... Buckle up, 00:36:40.579 --> 00:36:43.480 Buttercups. This shit is not... These guys are 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:48.179 still fighting? Maxie Hughes versus Archie Sharp. 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:53.460 This is GBM Sports. It's gonna be on DAZN. It's 00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:55.760 like when you auto -generate a character. Archie 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.659 Sharp's like when you auto -generate a guy in 00:36:57.659 --> 00:37:01.739 2K, but it's a boxer. Fight Night. British boxer. 00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:05.519 Fight Night champion, like, you just pick British 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:11.960 boxer. Lightweight. I know Maxie Hughes is still 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:21.219 fighting. How old is he? 35. 35? Old enough to 00:37:21.219 --> 00:37:25.559 still be fighting, apparently. Yeah. Young enough, 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:33.630 rather. Fuck. He's still around. No, I guess 00:37:33.630 --> 00:37:37.949 it wasn't. Yeah. Go ahead. Terry Harper versus 00:37:37.949 --> 00:37:42.110 Natalie Zimmerman. WBO lightweight title on the 00:37:42.110 --> 00:37:47.090 line. And Ticey... Is this like a female version 00:37:47.090 --> 00:37:50.289 of Tyson? Ticey Gallagher versus Ebony Jones. 00:37:50.469 --> 00:37:57.769 I think that's an IBF trinket. I check. No, British 00:37:57.769 --> 00:38:07.880 title. Okay, it's British. I mean, good for Terry 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:15.539 Harper for still fighting. How old is she? 28, 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.019 but the thing, like, consider, remember her story 00:38:19.019 --> 00:38:22.579 was that she was working at Tesco, and then her 00:38:22.579 --> 00:38:26.019 coach is like, we really need, like, a female 00:38:26.019 --> 00:38:30.369 boxer. We need somebody to step up. Yeah, we 00:38:30.369 --> 00:38:32.449 need someone to step up. Like, come back. Come 00:38:32.449 --> 00:38:35.489 back to boxing. And then, like, good for her. 00:38:35.969 --> 00:38:38.969 She's still around. Especially after that, like, 00:38:38.989 --> 00:38:44.309 year she took off after Baumgartner had her looking 00:38:44.309 --> 00:38:49.650 into the stars. Oh, you said Baumgartner, not... 00:38:49.650 --> 00:38:53.349 Baumgartner. Yeah. No, that Baumgartner one was... 00:38:53.349 --> 00:38:57.989 Stoppage. Big time. Good stoppage from the referee, 00:38:58.190 --> 00:39:05.059 actually. She's still kicking. Good for her. 00:39:07.219 --> 00:39:09.500 Have any of you guys seen Zimmerman? Is she any 00:39:09.500 --> 00:39:15.159 good? I have not. I have not either. She hasn't 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.599 had an opponent with a winning record yet. Wait 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:23.719 a second. I have mentioned Zimmerman before. 00:39:25.900 --> 00:39:32.969 It was a title fight. that she was on yeah the 00:39:32.969 --> 00:39:36.170 adina kiss one yeah i'm looking on a box right 00:39:36.170 --> 00:39:42.469 here okay okay but i've never seen her fight 00:39:42.469 --> 00:39:47.610 i just know no she's uh this is this is a friday 00:39:47.610 --> 00:39:53.090 british card through and through uh usually american 00:39:53.090 --> 00:39:59.119 uh friday cards are pretty okay They're enjoyable, 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:03.260 but this is fucking rough. This is some rough 00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:05.980 shit, man. It's because all the guys that used 00:40:05.980 --> 00:40:08.940 to be the default, like Eddie Hearn puts them 00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:11.260 on a card that keep them exciting are all retired. 00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:16.739 Terry Flanagan. Gone is like Ted Cheeseman, bro. 00:40:17.260 --> 00:40:19.880 Or this would be a Dave Allen card. This is the 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:21.820 card that they put Dave Allen on to sell pay 00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:25.150 -per -views in 2016. Back when they were still 00:40:25.150 --> 00:40:27.409 on Sky Sports, they go like, yeah, David Allen's 00:40:27.409 --> 00:40:31.250 fighting some Bulgarian guy who just clocked 00:40:31.250 --> 00:40:35.269 out of a construction job. It's the greatest 00:40:35.269 --> 00:40:40.630 fight part of the year. And then Dave Allen struggles 00:40:40.630 --> 00:40:46.130 to beat him. Really competitive, this one. Yeah, 00:40:46.150 --> 00:40:49.550 then Dave Allen's like, fuck, I'm too fat. Fuck, 00:40:49.909 --> 00:40:52.010 I'm too fat. I need to train more. And then he 00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:56.480 never trains more. I remember one time hearing 00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.139 that Eddie Heard actually said that he thought 00:40:58.139 --> 00:41:01.119 Usyk vs. Fury was going to be horrible before 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.239 it actually happened. But in all the promos, 00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:06.260 he was like, oh, this is a monumental fight waiting 00:41:06.260 --> 00:41:09.320 to happen for 25 years. Great fight, great fight. 00:41:09.780 --> 00:41:12.119 That's going to happen tonight. He literally 00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.360 admitted that he thought Usyk vs. Fury was going 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.960 to

be bad. It's crazy, huh? We had a famous Eddie 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.579 Heard quote being that Dave Allen was only two 00:41:19.579 --> 00:41:24.500 fights away from AJ. Dave Allen is only two fights 00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:27.980 away from AJ. He's only two fights away from 00:41:27.980 --> 00:41:30.480 AJ right now, technically. AJ just needs two 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.719 more losses and then it'll be worth it. Maybe 00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.139 one more fight. Dave Allen wins and AJ loses 00:41:36.139 --> 00:41:39.900 again. Yeah, maybe. We're almost there. We're 00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:43.519 back to the two fight. Yeah, we're back in that 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:50.210 state. AJ's fallen that far. You know what? I 00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:55.010 kind of like him. He's like my dirty little secret. 00:41:55.869 --> 00:42:02.750 I like making fun of him. I don't hate him. I 00:42:02.750 --> 00:42:04.769 think he's the only promoter that actually sells 00:42:04.769 --> 00:42:09.150 fighters now. You know what I mean? Like properly. 00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:15.630 I mean... He's the face of Matchroom. You see 00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:17.360 him in all the interviews and such. You know 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:18.400 what I mean? I don't think that's a good thing, 00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:20.780 though, because then, like, you're not as invested. 00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:22.519 You're not building the fighters. You're just 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:26.699 building your brand. Well, I think, I mean, he's 00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:28.820 kind of got some good fighters. You know what 00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:32.300 I mean? The promotion isn't very good. Like, 00:42:32.340 --> 00:42:34.219 the way that we have talked about it before is, 00:42:34.260 --> 00:42:37.639 like, this guy is really good. Oh, yeah, of course. 00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:39.280 I just mean, like, you just know he's amazing. 00:42:40.710 --> 00:42:44.769 I understand he's a good way to be the face of 00:42:44.769 --> 00:42:46.750 your promotion, but the thing is that promoting 00:42:46.750 --> 00:42:49.210 the fights themselves is a separate issue. Like, 00:42:49.210 --> 00:42:51.909 again, PBC always nails it with the storytelling. 00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:55.610 Yeah, but imagine if Al Heyman was like the face. 00:42:56.730 --> 00:43:01.050 It wouldn't be the same. I know. So we care about 00:43:01.050 --> 00:43:03.309 the fighters and their stories. We don't care 00:43:03.309 --> 00:43:05.230 about Al Heyman and whatever the fuck he's up 00:43:05.230 --> 00:43:08.550 to. Well, I mean, like Bob Arum and fucking Don 00:43:08.550 --> 00:43:10.070 King did it back in the day, you know what I 00:43:10.070 --> 00:43:13.309 mean? Yeah, but even Arum always took a backseat 00:43:13.309 --> 00:43:15.909 to, like, when he had, like, his real stars. 00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:20.730 Like, Bob Arum would always take a bit of a backseat. 00:43:20.769 --> 00:43:24.030 Like, he never made himself the face of an Ali 00:43:24.030 --> 00:43:29.090 promotion. Don King, though? Don King always 00:43:29.090 --> 00:43:31.969 did, but that's because he was the one keeping 00:43:31.969 --> 00:43:36.090 most of the money. Don King was like the turkey. 00:43:37.409 --> 00:43:41.099 Yeah, fuck. Except good. Well, not good. Good. 00:43:41.460 --> 00:43:43.880 Yeah, good. That's... Wait, wait, wait. Good's 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.139 a tough one, bro. Like, you gotta ask Tim Witherspoon 00:43:46.139 --> 00:43:47.800 if he's good. He's horrible. No, he's horrible. 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.440 He's horrible. I mean, like, he put on some great 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:50.860 fights, though. He put on great fights. Yeah. 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:52.760 That's all I meant. Oh, he's a horrible person. 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.559 Fuck, dog. No. Okay, you know what? Oh, my God. 00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:58.880 Bro, the people... I'm getting... I'm getting 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.949 canceled from boxing, bro. It's... I like Eddie 00:44:02.949 --> 00:44:07.590 Hearn and Don King is good. Those are some doozies 00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:10.730 right there. Oh, my God. This is my retirement 00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:12.429 podcast, bro. This is my retirement podcast. 00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:16.670 We're now hiring. It's actually, oh, God, I didn't 00:44:16.670 --> 00:44:18.130 mean like that, though. Y 'all know I didn't 00:44:18.130 --> 00:44:20.849 mean like that. Come on. Y 'all know I did not 00:44:20.849 --> 00:44:24.280 mean like that. Oh, my God. Can you please tell 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:25.559 me that you guys know I didn't mean like that? 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.480 Well, I mean, listen, man. Listen, man. When 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.199 I listen to this podcast back when it comes out, 00:44:32.340 --> 00:44:36.880 I'll tell you what it sounded like. Ah, shit. 00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:39.840 I'll call in being like, what the fuck is this 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.940 Alex guy still doing on the show? I'm good. I 00:44:43.940 --> 00:44:48.659 am good. Oh, you want to tell me I'm wrong? Because 00:44:48.659 --> 00:44:50.440 I know I'm wrong, but you can tell me I'm wrong. 00:44:50.579 --> 00:44:53.380 I'm not. No, I don't need to say Don King is 00:44:53.380 --> 00:44:56.199 bad. That's like... Wait, wait. You know what? 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.760 That was just a play to get people to call, though. 00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.519 That was just a play to get people to call. 833 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:08.739 Lux Pods. I am not... Ah, shit. Okay. Oh, God. 00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:11.579 I feel like Teal right now, except I regret it. 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.659 You're right. I have remorse. I have remorse. 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.940 I was just like, Teal, but... You know what I 00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:23.699 forgot last week? What? We had a message. Oh, 00:45:23.739 --> 00:45:27.940 play the message now. I can't play it into Teams. 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.380 You can read

it. Yeah, it says, hi, this is Matt. 00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:37.940 Like, first time, long time kind of thing. I 00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:42.659 wanted to talk about Canelo, about the Canelo 00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:45.739 versus, oh, this is a bad transcription. It says 00:45:45.739 --> 00:45:49.360 Canelo versus the girl fight. That would have 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.699 been more fun than Canelo's skull. Yeah, and 00:45:51.699 --> 00:45:56.139 how boring it was. I expected better from what 00:45:56.139 --> 00:46:00.980 is supposed to be the face of the sport. I don't 00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:07.159 know. Let me... This transcription fucking sucks. 00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.420 I don't know what gave him the idea it's okay 00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.440 to go the distance with someone like that. That's 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.519 not on his level, but... I'm not pleased. It's 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.980 fucking disgusting, is the word. Whatever they 00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:27.480 said, they're very correct. Yeah. They're very 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:32.820 correct. Very valid. Thanks, Matt. That was very 00:46:32.820 --> 00:46:36.460 nice of you. We love you, Matt. ProBuck's good. 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.940 ProBuck's good, Matt. Matt good, ProBuck's good. 00:46:41.019 --> 00:46:45.360 Hell yeah. Please call in again to yell at Alex. 00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:51.949 Don King is... Not great. No, I know Don King. 00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:56.030 That was a slip -up, bro. You said Don King was 00:46:56.030 --> 00:47:00.130 good, bro. It'll be in the podcast. Oh, my God. 00:47:00.710 --> 00:47:04.690 You said it. I'm done. It's over. It's over. 00:47:04.809 --> 00:47:06.889 Oh, my God. We're getting canceled. We're getting 00:47:06.889 --> 00:47:12.849 canceled now. God, speaking of getting canceled, 00:47:12.889 --> 00:47:19.500 Josh Taylor is here in the next event. We skipped 00:47:19.500 --> 00:47:23.280 Angelo Leo. Yeah, Angelo Leo is fighting Tomoki 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.860 Kameda, IBF featherweight title on the line. 00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:29.119 I don't really know who these other people are. 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.440 The IBF minimum weight title will be on the line 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.280 in the, I think, the co -main. Honestly, this 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:41.199 looks a lot like a top -ranked card. Where's 00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.639 he be held at, Angelo Leo? Osaka. Osaka, Japan. 00:47:47.769 --> 00:47:51.610 Interesting fight. Now he's fighting El Mexicanito. 00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:59.429 Moki Kaneda. Yeah, his Spanish is actually pretty 00:47:59.429 --> 00:48:05.289 damn good. Yeah, good for him, man. I think he 00:48:05.289 --> 00:48:08.929 and his brothers live, or at least train, in 00:48:08.929 --> 00:48:15.679 Mexico. Yeah. Listen, man, it's not a bad tariff. 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.320 These Japan cards are always more fun than they 00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.380 look on paper. Yeah, better than that Friday 00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:26.300 shit Maxie Hughes is headlining. Yeah, like, 00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:30.820 why the fuck isn't this on... Why can't they 00:48:30.820 --> 00:48:34.380 suck the money out of my ass for this one? Dude, 00:48:34.539 --> 00:48:37.420 you know what? It's so stupid how the Japanese 00:48:37.420 --> 00:48:41.380 streaming services work. Like, you can't... You 00:48:41.380 --> 00:48:44.500 have to have a Japanese IP. No, but it's not 00:48:44.500 --> 00:48:48.960 even, like, just sell the rights, man. Yeah, 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.980 to somebody. Just sell the rights. Like, Probox 00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:53.920 would probably pick that shit up and fill their 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.360 schedule. It's a title fight. It's two title 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.780 fights. ESPN would love to have it. Yeah, like, 00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:04.019 Top Rank doesn't have to put Emmanuel Navarrete 00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:09.000 on shit anymore if you have this. So you can't 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:12.440 sign up if you don't have a Japanese IP. you 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:14.559 sign up you try to sign up you need to have a 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.019 japanese phone number there's a website that 00:49:17.019 --> 00:49:18.860 gives you like a temporary number that you could 00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:23.139 do for like the text registration then you have 00:49:23.139 --> 00:49:25.800 to have a japanese bank account or because like 00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.800 you're my i tried to put my card information 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.860 in there it says like yeah we only accept japanese 00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:33.460 banks yeah you're married your filthy american 00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:36.960 dollar is not welcome for our product no fucking 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.679 kidding man i can't watch this shit I can't pay 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.219 you. I want to... I want... I am presenting my 00:49:44.219 --> 00:49:48.760 ass to have the money sucked out. Like, come 00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:53.079 on, bro. What? We're stuck watching fucking Maxie 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:59.420 Hughes. I want to watch Tomoki Kameda and Angelo 00:49:59.420 --> 00:50:02.679 Leo. Even if the fight sucked, the venue was 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.599 pretty enough to, like, at least, like, hey, 00:50:06.619 --> 00:50:10.309 it's a fun venue to look at. But the fights don't 00:50:10.309 --> 00:50:16.710 suck. So, like, come on. Instead, on the same 00:50:16.710 --> 00:50:19.010 day, we're watching the ghost of Josh Taylor 00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:22.130 and a bunch of fucking... There's one good fight 00:50:22.130 --> 00:50:26.989 on this damn card. Hey, Tom. Yeah, Tom was fighting 00:50:26.989 --> 00:50:31.909 someone like Balrog or something, bro. Balogun? 00:50:33.010 --> 00:50:37.289 Balogun. He lost to Gassiev in, like, two years 00:50:37.289 --> 00:50:41.440 ago. I don't know. At least Atom was fighting. 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.139 That's the exciting part. I don't

care about 00:50:44.139 --> 00:50:49.380 the rest of this card. Josh Taylor's old. Josh 00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:52.800 Taylor is old and he's still at 140 for some 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.079 reason. I thought this was at 147. No, no, it's 00:50:56.079 --> 00:51:01.260 at 147. He finally moved up. Yeah. But, like, 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:07.000 really? He's only 34. Yeah, but he's an old 34. 00:51:11.050 --> 00:51:15.409 He's an old, old 34. Because it's not like, again, 00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:17.670 it's not his defense that ever carried him in 00:51:17.670 --> 00:51:21.349 these fights. It was always his heart and general 00:51:21.349 --> 00:51:28.010 ranginess. Discipline. Remember how pro -grade 00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:36.909 made his eye look? No. The picture of him holding 00:51:36.909 --> 00:51:40.210 the Ali trophy where the bruise over his eye 00:51:40.210 --> 00:51:43.250 is like, the fucking boy like a like a mump or 00:51:43.250 --> 00:51:48.030 a boil over his face like in the cartoons yeah 00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:52.550 literally that's i mean like he's never been 00:51:52.550 --> 00:51:54.989 uh and he's taken a good amount of punishment 00:51:54.989 --> 00:52:01.750 in his last three three fights because like jack 00:52:01.750 --> 00:52:04.550 kettle beat him the first time and they robbed 00:52:04.550 --> 00:52:08.000 them Teofimo Lopez put belt to ass, and then 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.619 Jack Catterall also put belt to ass and fouled 00:52:10.619 --> 00:52:12.760 him a bunch. Like, he's got a lot of miles on 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.579 the clock. I will never bring another fighter 00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:22.940 to Britain. Oh, my God. Look at his eye. He doesn't 00:52:22.940 --> 00:52:25.739 even have one. Yeah, like, that's what I mean. 00:52:25.780 --> 00:52:29.079 He's got miles on the clock, and he probably 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:39.039 spent too long at 140. So, make what you will. 00:52:39.179 --> 00:52:42.119 He's probably still going to beat this guy. Ekau 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:46.599 Esuman. Ekau Esuman, yeah. But, like, it's not 00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.179 going to be pretty because Josh Taylor's a bit 00:52:49.179 --> 00:52:56.019 of a mauling, fouling fighter. But, I mean, he'll 00:52:56.019 --> 00:53:01.960 get some WBO trinket to stay in the mix. So, 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:09.780 there's that. Do we care that much about Nathaniel 00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:14.019 Collins and Lee McGregor? Fuck no. Not really. 00:53:18.179 --> 00:53:22.320 They're both Brit -level guys who will win or 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.659 lose, still stay around Brit -level. They're 00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:32.079 not going to beat Nick Ball, but they can probably 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.599 wait for Nick Ball to lose and pick up the trinkets 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:39.000 that he drops from that. Pick up the loot? Yeah, 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:44.420 basically. Man. Someone has to fill the rankings. 00:53:44.500 --> 00:53:47.760 Someone has

to fill the rankings in. Like Britain's 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:55.320 Rocha and Korea. Yeah, if there's some British 00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:00.539 listener or Irish, Scottish, whatever. United 00:54:00.539 --> 00:54:05.840 Kingdom listener. British Isles. Why should I 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.530 care? It's about Nathaniel Collins and or Lee 00:54:09.530 --> 00:54:16.769 McGregor. Also, tell us why Don King is bad. 00:54:18.949 --> 00:54:23.949 He is bad, by the way. He's very bad. That's 00:54:23.949 --> 00:54:28.989 a backtrack from... Look, the woke left has forced 00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:33.070 him to admit that Don King is bad. I always thought 00:54:33.070 --> 00:54:34.789 that. I just thought he put on good fights. You 00:54:34.789 --> 00:54:39.449 can't deny that, dude. Yeah, I know. The way 00:54:39.449 --> 00:54:43.969 it came out was just really funny. That's definitely 00:54:43.969 --> 00:54:45.489 not going to be on Patreon. That's definitely 00:54:45.489 --> 00:54:47.630 going to go to the main. That's going to the 00:54:47.630 --> 00:54:53.469 main. You know the one where he's like, you need 00:54:53.469 --> 00:54:57.510 to leave. Like TikTok audio. That's going to 00:54:57.510 --> 00:55:01.019 go viral. Yeah, that's the clip you put on social 00:55:01.019 --> 00:55:06.500 media. I'm getting clipped right there. Bro, 00:55:06.579 --> 00:55:08.780 like, Don King has a fucking Wikipedia article 00:55:08.780 --> 00:55:12.639 about lawsuits and prosecutions. Has his own 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:18.340 lawsuits page? Yeah, on Wikipedia. All lawsuits 00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:23.250 and prosecutions. Yeah. He got investigated for 00:55:23.250 --> 00:55:28.929 being connected to John Gotti. The IRS stole 00:55:28.929 --> 00:55:32.809 $32 ,000 from his house because he didn't fucking 00:55:32.809 --> 00:55:36.070 pay it. Wait, wait, okay, okay, okay. You guys, 00:55:36.110 --> 00:55:40.710 like, flew me with it, right? Yeah. You're just 00:55:40.710 --> 00:55:43.309 moving the goalposts, man. Don King stomped the 00:55:43.309 --> 00:55:45.610 guy to death over $600, bro. He beat his wife. 00:55:48.269 --> 00:55:50.150 Mayweather beat his wife. Don King stomped the 00:55:50.150 --> 00:55:53.670 guy to death, bro. You guys are getting paid 00:55:53.670 --> 00:55:58.809 by Mayweather, dog. I wish. He beat his wife, 00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:00.150 and you guys have not mentioned that. That got 00:56:00.150 --> 00:56:03.650 cut from one of the podcast ones. Nah, man, because 00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:08.550 it's not relevant. I'm not saying Floyd Mayweather 00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:11.889 is the paragon of morality here. I'm definitely 00:56:11.889 --> 00:56:14.969 not moving the goalpost. This is moving the goalpost. 00:56:15.349 --> 00:56:18.409 I'm definitely not moving the goalpost. You guys 00:56:18.409 --> 00:56:19.909 are just getting paid off by big Mayweather promotions. 00:56:20.849 --> 00:56:23.670 Nah, bro. Like, here's Wikipedia, bro. The Mayweather 00:56:23.670 --> 00:56:30.170 Industrial Complex. Yeah. In 1967, King was convicted 00:56:30.170 --> 00:56:32.989 of voluntary manslaughter for stomping one of 00:56:32.989 --> 00:56:35.690 his employees to death because he owed him $600. 00:56:36.090 --> 00:56:38.409 Yeah, Don King's horrible. I know, Don King's 00:56:38.409 --> 00:56:41.610 horrible, bro. I know, I know. I'm about to go 00:56:41.610 --> 00:56:44.389 to, like, the Fox News of Boxing podcast. Yeah. 00:56:44.789 --> 00:56:48.170 We're moving this podcast to Rumble. I'm not 00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:52.010 going to shoot a bullet at another fucking podcast. 00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:53.449 I'm going to keep my mouth shut. I'm going to 00:56:53.449 --> 00:57:01.429 shut the fuck up. You know what? At least we 00:57:01.429 --> 00:57:02.949 filled it. We didn't need to break in any of 00:57:02.949 --> 00:57:05.789 the filler with that. No. Didn't need to break 00:57:05.789 --> 00:57:08.130 glass on this one. We'll probably have to break 00:57:08.130 --> 00:57:09.909 it in a couple weeks with this. We'll have to 00:57:09.909 --> 00:57:12.170 talk about the previews of this. The recaps of 00:57:12.170 --> 00:57:19.079 these weekends. Yeah. I'm sorry for the listeners 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.000 who had to listen to this. I'm going to talk 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.699 about the NBA playoffs if it's that bleak. I 00:57:26.699 --> 00:57:31.000 usually have that up top, like if it's something 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.679 I recognize, if it's a team I know or a team 00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:36.579 I kind of sort of care about. NBA draft is rigged, 00:57:36.579 --> 00:57:39.559 by the way. They gave Dallas the fucking first 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.900 pick. What? The draft lottery was today. The 00:57:45.900 --> 00:57:49.719 Dallas Mavericks have the number one pick. Didn't 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.539 they just get that really good Serbian guy? No, 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.400 they traded him away. They lost the Serbian guy, 00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:59.360 that's right. For nothing. They traded him for 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:03.780 the ghost of Anthony Davis and a pack of peanuts. 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:09.219 And then they got rewarded with Cooper flags, 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:15.559 so they got another generational guy. Horrible, 00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:21.920 horrible stuff. But anyways, is that all? That 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:26.239 is. That is all the boxing. Yeah, let me make 00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:32.039 one of these. You've been listening to The Boxing 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.719 B -Sides, a Lux Media production. 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We're 00:59:55.429 --> 00:59:59.710 heading into Bleak Week. Bleak Weekend. Bleak 00:59:59.710 --> 01:00:07.989 End. Ah, good one. Bleak End. I'm getting cancelled. 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:13.059 Oh, yeah. I'm going to get replaced by, like, 01:00:13.059 --> 01:00:18.099 Isaac again. Let's get Isaac back on the podcast, 01:00:18.219 --> 01:00:21.780 dog. Nah, we got to bring... We got to get Angelo 01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:26.039 in. Angelo. Let's see if we can drag him out. 01:00:27.739 --> 01:00:30.360 I don't know what that guy is. Let's see if we 01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.659 can drag Angelo out. He wouldn't come on here. 01:00:35.659 --> 01:00:39.719 He wouldn't? Damn. You gotta pay him for that. 01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:45.719 Uh, Noir on the Discord. Wait, what's his name? 01:00:46.500 --> 01:00:51.139 Noir. Have you seriously not talked to him, bro? 01:00:52.179 --> 01:00:58.059 Noir? Yeah, he's like, he's not the owner of 01:00:58.059 --> 01:01:02.460 the Discord, but he's not. Well, no, because 01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:04.280 I know he has the other one, the Sunday Punchers. 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:11.570 Yeah. He doesn't even do that one. What do you 01:01:11.570 --> 01:01:13.909 mean? He's still on. I thought he was still on 01:01:13.909 --> 01:01:20.070 it. He only posted to Patreon, which I do not 01:01:20.070 --> 01:01:22.050 pay for. I add myself to the Patreon channel, 01:01:22.210 --> 01:01:27.349 but I don't pay for it. Listen, he's tried to 01:01:27.349 --> 01:01:29.610 kick me out of the Patreon channel repeatedly. 01:01:30.010 --> 01:01:35.590 It's not happening. Wait, so wait. Why do you 01:01:35.590 --> 01:01:39.349 want him back, Josh? Why do you want him on here? 01:01:41.869 --> 01:01:44.989 I don't know, because he doesn't think Don King 01:01:44.989 --> 01:01:54.730 is good. Awkward. I don't know, man. I don't 01:01:54.730 --> 01:01:58.510 know, man. I was just thinking of potential replacements 01:01:58.510 --> 01:02:02.070 for when the woke mob cancels you, Alex. Yeah, 01:02:02.090 --> 01:02:06.190 the woke boxing mob. The woke boxing mob. Bring 01:02:06.190 --> 01:02:10.769 RGF back, too. First day... First they came for 01:02:10.769 --> 01:02:14.690 Teofimo and I said nothing because he's a fucking 01:02:14.690 --> 01:02:20.070 racist. And then they came for Alex and I also 01:02:20.070 --> 01:02:22.969 said nothing because I disagree with... I disagree 01:02:22.969 --> 01:02:26.590 with Dodd King being good. You know what? No, 01:02:26.630 --> 01:02:28.050 I didn't mean it like that, though. I did not 01:02:28.050 --> 01:02:29.889 mean it like that. You know what? I know. You 01:02:29.889 --> 01:02:31.690 know what? You know what? This is the only good 01:02:31.690 --> 01:02:33.110 thing about it because Devin Haney is going to 01:02:33.110 --> 01:02:37.030 do some stupid bullshit again. Devin Haney and 01:02:37.030 --> 01:02:38.190 Ryan Garcia is going to do some bullshit and 01:02:38.190 --> 01:02:39.630 it's going to... No one's going to know about 01:02:39.630 --> 01:02:42.610 this. God, imagine the era. Imagine the era where 01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:46.250 instead of getting paid too much, Don King would 01:02:46.250 --> 01:02:50.690 have been robbing those guys. Yeah. Honestly, 01:02:50.829 --> 01:02:53.869 I would love Don King to rob Demi Haney. Yeah. 01:02:53.889 --> 01:02:55.050 It would have been the only thing he would do. 01:02:55.889 --> 01:03:01.550 Parting words, Provox good, Ryan good. Eat more 01:03:01.550 --> 01:03:09.880 ramen. That's true. Put the ramen ad right in 01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.880 the middle of the closing words. If that's all 01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.599 we got, then that's it for this edition of the 01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.360 Boxing B -Sides. B -Sides.