บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Undeceive Yourselves! Respell The World: The Great Cosmic Mother pt5

a huge difference. 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:49.760 Thanks, Kitty. 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.519 You're in the you're in the tribe. 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:52.239 Thank you. 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:53.359 Thank you, thank you. 00:01:53.359 --> 00:02:06.959 We must remember the chemical connections between our cells and the stars, between the beginning and now. 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:15.039 We must remember and reactivate the primal consciousness of oneness between all living things. 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:27.120 We must return to that time in our genetic memory, in our dreams, when we were one species born to live together on Earth as her magic children. 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:30.639 Well, hello, magic children. 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:37.840 You're listening to Biting All the Apples, the bookie podcast for radical ladies and radical lady lovers. 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:47.680 Today we're coming to you with inspiring instructions on respelling the world from the final chapters of the great cosmic mother. 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:50.159 That's what Joanna just read to you right now. 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:57.680 So fix those earbuds, steady your soul, and grab your spell supplies because we're getting into it. 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:11.120 I'm Sarah Kay, and I'm Joanna Vee. 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:15.520 And we're your guides to crazy times through sane books. 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.759 We're not experts, but who is? 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:22.879 And if you are, why aren't you stepping up and out and guiding us back home? 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:24.080 Exactly. 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:25.680 What's your problem? 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:26.479 Yeah. 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:28.479 We need you. 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.560 We've been asking, have we not? 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:31.919 Have we not? 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:33.919 We have been, yeah, begging. 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:35.120 Yeah, begging. 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:36.560 Because it's getting weird. 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:43.280 Um, it's getting so that I'm used to the insanity, which I don't like, really. 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:48.400 But that's why we have this book that we're yeah, because that helps focus it in. 00:03:48.400 --> 00:04:04.560 Not that I'm checking out, but the weirder thing is, is everything that you've read about authoritarian takeovers and like how this stuff works, it's like you knew this part was coming where everybody it's I mean it's part of the plan. 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:08.560 I've read about it, but everybody's just like just forget, I don't even pay attention. 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:13.360 Which makes me like where where I'm like, no, we can't we can't be there. 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.560 I know, but it's I don't want to be there. 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:22.240 I'm terrified, but we're there, we're there, and I since we odd. 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:28.319 Yeah, and since we last recorded, I love that we keep on saying, we'll see you next week. 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.879 We've been a bit on the every other week schedule. 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:38.720 We had, you know, the sicknesses, sicknesses and illnesses, and then then it's May and it's crazy town. 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:39.040 Right. 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:40.800 Don't forget we have an educator here. 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.079 Yeah, crazy town. 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:43.120 It's crazy town. 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:47.920 We got field trips, we got ceremonies, we got and then I I got a kid that's in dance. 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.560 Oh, so we got dance recitals, you got all the things. 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:50.959 I know. 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:51.759 You're like all of things. 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:55.759 And you got all the sports of a million of sports. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:56.240 Yeah. 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.720 I have a million charges in many sports. 00:04:58.720 --> 00:04:59.920 But at least it's beautiful. 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:00.480 It is. 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:02.079 So you get to touch grass. 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:17.759 You get to touch grass, and it's been a minute since we were back recording, and since then the voting rights act I think that is it is maybe that's when it I'm like, this is I mean, it's in it's insane. 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.120 And we're not experts. 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:26.079 I don't have like a court rundown for y'all, other than if you wanted to rule the country back even further, this this is. 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:35.759 It's like they are going like the South is going south, and they're just showing their true colors. 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:40.000 And they are here's the thing power colors. 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:54.800 What is going to be interesting is yes, the the south it's the people in power and the ones that are in charge of like drawing maps, like, yeah, they are showing their, you know, it's that's the last gasp of the Confederacy. 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.879 But it's gonna be interesting because it's not the same South as before. 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:07.040 No, there's people out protesting in in the South in these chambers, right? 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:12.879 And you see, you look in and you just see these old white dudes, and they are old white dudes. 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.639 Yeah, you're like, I'm not stereotyping, I'm like this is this is legitimately. 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.920 Could it be 1960 anymore? 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:25.839 Like if they just made the pictures black and white, you'd be like, oh, these are old. 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:26.720 Yeah. 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.879 But you're right, like there's a lot of young people. 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:42.160 Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is is one that is making all of this possible, which is uh only what the law of the land. 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.120 Nine frickin' people, which is insane. 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:47.439 I don't that's like my only commentary. 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:48.560 I'm

like, it's insane. 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:49.199 It's insane. 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:50.800 It's insane, it's insane. 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:51.920 It's insane. 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:54.240 It's it's unbelievable that we are here. 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:04.319 Should have ended in 2016, and here we are. 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.199 But as reading this book, apparently it started in the 80s. 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:08.480 So well it started. 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:13.360 Well, before that, but like it really ramped up their in the 80s. 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:19.439 When they couldn't when they couldn't be those or sorry, the pro what is what am I trying to do? 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:29.680 When they couldn't be the pro-segregation creepy dudes anymore, they had to repackage themselves, and that would be the kind of 80s conservative party. 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:30.240 Yeah. 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:30.560 Yeah. 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:32.240 They're like we need to be. 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.959 We're gonna we're gonna use the cover of family values. 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:35.920 Yeah. 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:39.439 It's it's all about power. 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:40.879 It's all about power. 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:44.879 Which is why this book, which is where I'm like, I can't help it. 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.519 I'm just gonna get we keep on saying this book, this book. 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.839 I mean, I don't know if anybody, if this is if you're starting our podcast with this episode, great. 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:53.199 Good, but go back. 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:55.600 We're gonna like go back to the no. 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:02.639 We are reading, well, we're wrapping up the last two chapters of The Great Cosmic Mother. 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.519 This is what I want to remind everybody before we get into this. 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:10.079 And we are getting into the parts that they they kind of summarize. 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:15.120 There's two chapters where they kind of resummarize like all the horrors of the of the state of the world. 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:23.040 And then it really, this is where it moves into almost like manifesto poetry style stuff where they give answers, like this is what we need to do. 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.639 Yeah, and motive motivates you, it makes you gives you some warm fuzzies. 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.800 Or like excited fuzzies. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:32.799 Yeah, excited, jazzy fuzzies, jazz, jazzy and fuzzies. 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:34.399 Fuzzies. 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:52.720 Fuzzies, firework fuzzies, but quick reminder that the crux, like the gist, the big idea of the great cosmic mother is that patriarchal religions created by men have separated all of us from the very source that connects and supports us. 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:53.120 Yeah. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.120 And I mean, that's just the gist. 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:55.840 That's the summary. 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:56.879

That is the summary. 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:01.440 And by making us forget, we become scared and vulnerable. 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:14.240 And they offer solutions that take our power, our knowing away, and use our life force energy, our minds, attention, and labor to benefit the ruling class, the priest class. 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:14.879 Yep. 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.480 They take our power, which is that we're all connected. 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:27.200 We all have intuition and magic, connectedness, innate power, ability to care for people and patient, right? 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:28.000 Everything. 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:28.559 The earth. 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:29.200 Yeah. 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.440 They're like, but we want the power. 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:33.519 And this is how we'll get it out. 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:34.399 We'll get it. 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:38.799 And we will just push you into a little box where you have to stay there. 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.519 And you all hate each other, which is what this yeah. 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:41.840 Yeah. 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:42.879 That's what's happening. 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:43.360 Right? 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:43.919 Yeah. 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:47.360 And so that's the recap of the main like thing of the book. 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:51.600 The gist that we've been walking you through these past four episodes. 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:55.840 And uh just want to note that we were fools to think it'd be only be two or three episodes. 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:57.519 Yeah, because it is like a giant book. 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.720 Because we were we were so ambitious. 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.039 We were like, season two is gonna be way different. 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.600 We're gonna just we're gonna rock through a million books. 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:06.960 Yeah, but we're gonna be rocking. 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:07.519 Yeah. 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.360 But this book, you had to take it slow. 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:09.759 Yeah. 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.279 As much as we were just talking where we almost admitted that we're like, we're totally numbed out. 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.039 I'm like, actually, we're rocking. 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:15.840 We are rocking. 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:17.279 I mean, we're not sitting still. 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:18.080 Yeah. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.440 I'm not in my house with the shutters shut. 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:22.559 That's right. 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:30.159 So, and now finally we're getting to the chapters with the hope and the poetry and all that jazz. 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:30.879 So, yeah. 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:40.000 Well, technically, this chap next chapter, The Great Flight Home, does provide a little devastating recap of the horrific effects of the patriarchy. 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:40.320 Yeah. 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:43.600 Um, and it's pretty. 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:46.960 It's like a shot to the heart, kind of. 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:55.600 So the the two chapters that we're going to be discussing are The Great Flight Home and then Respell the World. 00:10:55.600 --> 00:11:01.440 And so this The Great Flight Home is really so they built this all up. 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.519 They're like, this is how these things happened. 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:19.519 And I think that the Great Flight Home we were talking about before, where I'm like, I they're like repeating, and I'm like, it's not that they're repeating, they're summarizing, they're like, so that's how the patriarchy worked, those are the things they did, and now they're really like, and this is all this this is the effects of that. 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:25.840 Dot dot dot, the magic flight home. 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:26.480 Right? 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:27.360 Here we are. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:27.840 I know. 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:34.399 We're gonna go home and we're gonna we're gonna fly out of here into the magic flight home. 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:36.960 A new old world. 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.799 The new world world starts in the name of God. 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:46.960 What patriarchy has finally achieved is the completely profane world. 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:54.000 What Western patriarchy has given us in in God's name is a world wholly emptied of spirit. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:59.919 The whole desecrated cosmos is a recent discovery in the history of the human spirit. 00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:04.080 That's what the thesis of this whole chapter is that very first sentence. 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:09.919 In the name of God, what patriarchy has finally achieved is the completely profane world. 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.919 I know we promised everybody that there is like this is what we need to do. 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:20.080 But this is a bit of a recap and to explain how freaking profane. 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.000 And they talk about porn and all this stuff. 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:34.559 So Yeah, how they made us feel repressed, and then it made us do other weird things because they're holding us back from our true innate what we know would make us, you know, happy and better. 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:49.440 By abstracting spirit from flesh, by utterly demonizing the physical world and women as its source, patriarchy has almost destroyed the home of spirit, which is sacred earth and all flesh. 00:12:49.440 --> 00:13:05.919 In its place, patriarchy has built a sordid wasteland of material products, profit and power systems, and death machines, the inevitable result of 4,000 years of militant life hatred and cynical mercantilism. 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:06.240 Yeah. 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.000 I had to say I'm like mercantilism. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:15.360 Our earthly bodies themselves are mechanized and pornographicized, pornographicized. 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:15.840 Yeah. 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:17.600 Let me just keep saying that word. 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:26.799

Offered up for sale as though indeed we had no souls, but existed only as exploitable units in nihilistic market and state systems. 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.080 And that's what we are. 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.039 Depressing. 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:29.600 Yeah. 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:30.080 But they're not. 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.440 But tell me where that's wrong. 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.799 It's it's we're it's what we are, and you know it. 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:35.360 You feel it. 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:36.240 Like you know it. 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.519 We're just owned by Bezos and all these people. 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.679 We have a lot of stuff, all of us. 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:48.480 All of us have got lots of stuff, but has it made the world a better place? 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:49.360 Like no. 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:53.919 And she talks they're talking a lot about, you know, the female body. 00:13:53.919 --> 00:14:06.080 And did you have this here where I mean, I won't read too many things about porn, but what can be done under patriarchy to one female body can be done under world patriarchy to the entire body of the earth. 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:07.600 And I thought this Yes. 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.279 Cause so I thought this was great. 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:15.120 And this made me think of the AI and you know, Peter Thiel and everything that's happening. 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.480 The ladies called it. 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.159 They already knew it was happening. 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:19.679 I don't know how we missed it. 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:31.759 In fact, everything so that we're talking about buying things in this market of basically materialism is what they're talking about, and profit for few while the rest of us struggle. 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:45.600 In fact, everything can be replaced, including us, with those good, efficient, obedient, non-unionized, thoroughly dreamless machines, which has been happening. 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.039 And it was a little bit in the 80s. 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:48.399 Now it's like insane. 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:53.679 And when you bring AI into it, it is really uh we're being replaced. 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.919 In all the plans to colonize space, which Hello. 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.159 Hello, what's our next step? 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.480 Mars, the guys want to do. 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:15.919 There is a remarkable but predictable absence of any profound urge to contradict or challenge the extant patriarchal definition of the meaning of life. 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:21.279 That is so last I almost say last week, wink wink, whatever, it was two weeks ago. 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:21.519 Yeah. 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:22.000 Or more. 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:32.320 But I said something where I'm like, if somebody asked you, and this isn't this is not necessarily meaning of life, but if somebody asked you, like, you know, what's America's thing, like what's

America's vision? 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:33.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:33.759 Get stuff. 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:34.480 We don't yeah. 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:35.440 We're like, I don't know. 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:35.919 We'll see. 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:36.159 Yeah. 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:37.519 I need to buy weird. 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.120 So I need to get stuff. 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:39.679 Yeah. 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:41.679 I hope that stuff makes me happy. 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:42.320 Right. 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:49.600 And if we don't even have, and we're so I mean, it is so I I would love to know what these ladies think now. 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:59.759 But speaking of this just being, you know, desecrated and just totally destructive, like we don't have we don't even respect human life. 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.519 I don't even know what else to say. 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:08.399 Like, I don't, and I don't, there's really not much lower that we can that is we are in the depth. 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:11.840 Never say things can't get worse because definitely they definitely can. 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:22.240 This does go along, and I think this ties in with where it's like, why isn't anybody doing anything? 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:27.919 So further in the chapter, and and we're still we're still kind of in the negging part, but it's good. 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:29.840 And like all this, they're so good at it. 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:30.559 They're so good at it. 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:36.000 And also, like they're writing in the 80s, and it's just like exponentially worse now. 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:36.720 Right, right. 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.480 I'm like, all this stuff is good. 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:48.799 Um and so it talks about how horrible we are to the planet and to ourselves and to each other, and you know, pornography. 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.000 We've plundered we've plundered and ripped. 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.440 This junkie part is really okay. 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:06.240 So the Western world, as we all know, is a total junkie, both in compulsive addiction to consumption and in its foul methods of disposing waste. 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:26.160 The number one drug problem in America, surely, is the 24-hour-a-day addiction of the average person to a hundred times more artificial energy from sugar to electricity, from mass entertainment to the bomb than any healthy human being could ever want or need. 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:27.279 This is in the 80s. 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.839 I'm like, oh my gosh, you can only see us now. 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:39.119 And like any junkie threatened with a cutoff of supply, America, the Western world generally, can think and act in murderous ways. 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:44.799 When I read that first part just about the the junkiness, the junkiness. 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:45.519 We're so junky. 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:46.400 We got junk. 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:55.359 No, but in how we, you know, a lot of stuff we do, and I I do a crap load of it, can consuming and trying to get artificial energy. 00:17:55.359 --> 00:18:02.640 Isn't it interesting that we are the only living creatures that do that? 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:03.519 Yeah. 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:08.000 Because other creatures haven't had like patriarchal religion forced on them. 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:15.440 So when we're taking away our own natural connection and life force, they're also taking away our like our soul energy. 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:16.079 Yes. 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.559 And we're just trying to fill it and we're trying to fill it. 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:19.920 Things that will never fill it. 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:20.799 Trying to fill it. 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:21.119 Yeah. 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:22.160 Never fill it. 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.000 To what we But also, I think people do need to recognize how bad it is. 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.519 Because, like I said, I didn't know. 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:33.440 I I mean I thought it, but I didn't spend a lot of time on it until the world was literally my world. 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:35.680 Of course, it's always egocentric, right? 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:35.920 Right. 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.680 Until my world was like, oh, things are not right. 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:40.000 Right. 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:40.319 Right? 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:50.799 The patriarchal West cannot solve its energy problems because our minds and spirits were long ago cut off from the real source of energy. 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:52.559 Creative power. 00:18:52.559 --> 00:19:06.559 This is the sexual spiritual source of cosmic ecstasy, which patriarchy has denied in favor in favor of manipulative, moralistic, and rationalistic energies. 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:23.920 As moral and rational energies themselves dwindle, with a lingering patriarchal framework, only the most decadent, bizarre, and vicious energies seem to erupt in their place, and they are in the seat of our government. 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:32.240 These criminal energies do not result from the absence of patriarchy as the fundamentalists preach. 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:44.319 Rather, they are the corrupt residues and grotesque spasms of the dying patriarch himself, which I hope he's dying. 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:47.440 I know, I hope you're dying in deathbed like forever. 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.200 Oh my god, forever. 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:49.839 It is. 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.920 Do you see this in italics underneath? 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.839 It says, evil is that which prevents the unfolding of the one. 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:57.039 Yes. 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:58.880 You're like, you know. 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:06.559 And I think when they're saying the one here, they're talking about a collective one of universal oneness with the earth. 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:07.359 Yeah, the one. 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.039

The cosmos. 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:11.839 That's it. 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.359 We haven't said it yet this episode, but we'd love to read you the whole book. 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:21.200 But so according to this definition, surely all of patriarchal society is evil. 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:47.920 Even in its death rows, it attempts to pit us all against each other as economic enemies, as political enemies, as racial enemies, as religious enemies, worker against worker, white against dark, man against women, belief against belief, as patriarchal systems begin and end by instigating competitiveness for survival, i.e., by trying to make communalism, mutual cooperation impossible. 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:55.839 And that is I wanted to read that part because it's so, like you said, we need to be reminded, we're being pitted against each other. 00:20:55.839 --> 00:21:02.319 The whole point of this book to me is to understand that politics isn't enough. 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:02.720 No. 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:12.720 You know, when you just said like you're like, well, I hadn't like thought about like how bad you're like, I knew it was bad, but you don't think about like it is spiritually bad. 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.960 It's like soul bottom bad. 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:18.000 Soul bottom bad. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:18.960 So I like that. 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.680 That's where we are. 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.640 And I we're at soul bottom bad. 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.079 Yeah, we're at soul bottom bad. 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:31.440 And I think to have books like this that give you the words, because that's what that's what's happening while we're reading it. 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:32.000 I'm like, yeah. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:33.680 I'm like, no, that's why it's bad. 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.480 We're pitted against each other. 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:47.519 And and I know even so if we're thinking like politics, we've heard that, especially for the past like 10, this past decade, they're like, oh, they're you know, they're trying to get us pitted against each other. 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:51.519 But we're only thinking of that in like red state, blue state pitted against each other. 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:57.200 I'm like, no, no, we're talking like deep, soul bottom, soul bottom pitted. 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:57.839 That's right. 00:21:57.839 --> 00:21:59.839 Western patriotism. 00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:07.599 Has plundered, raped, co-opted, ripped off, brutalized, and massacred lavishly. 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.400 Always in the name of God. 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:17.279 God is always available to justify what cannot otherwise be justified. 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:23.920 The Holy Bible itself is the first written example of this phenomenon. 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:45.279 Western Christians have convinced themselves that this God virtually gave them the entire earth to use, to control, to profit from, and in the final insult, to missionize, to teach spirit to through a rifle barrel, if necessary. 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:50.400 By the way, I wish we had video for your reading of that because it was really good, you guys. 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:51.759 It was like so good. 00:22:51.759 --> 00:23:03.279 So the next few pages are really breaking down like the modern Christianity. 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:17.839 For example, the biblically derived capitalist spiritual experience in particular has never been an adventure of spirit, but an indulgence of extreme individualism and self-righteousness in pursuit of personal profit, personal enhancement. 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.599 Always at the expense of the whole world. 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:22.720 Yeah. 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:28.240 In here they talk about the um justification that God makes some people poor. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:29.359 Oh my god, yeah. 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.839 So that others can learn something from them. 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:41.440 That poverty and pain are karmic situations brought on by one's behavior in past lives, that one chooses one's life absolutely, and some people choose to suffer. 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:42.400 It's challenging. 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:49.519 I know all these ex these explanations, that's in quotes, are spiritual versions of blaming the victim. 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:58.640 They derive from patriarchal religious systems, which were purposely designed to rationalize hierarchies, injustice, and the status quo. 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.279 And this is one of my favorite sentences, this next one. 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:05.920 I'm like, so just sit, are you listen, perk your ears up? 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:19.279 All patriarchal systems are self-justifying, and the mind dwelling within these systems is capable of monstrous rationalizations in order to keep those tautologies intact. 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:20.160 Monstrous. 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:21.519 That's all you need to know. 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:22.400 Yeah. 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:29.359 They move into what's necessary or what we need to start doing. 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:40.000 This this uh feminine spirituality must begin with the fact of being alive as a biological body on a living and conscious biological planet. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.640 This is the human ontological condition. 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.440 This is the condition of all human evolution and all creative human activity. 00:24:47.440 --> 00:25:00.000 Those who embrace spirituality as an escape from politics, as a transcendence of political exgeneses simply do not understand what feminist spirituality means at its root. 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:07.119 The joining of the conscious body and the conscious spirit in the ongoing epiphany of experienced evolution. 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.319 And you see that, and this is what this book is kind of like. 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.240 Don't use that to escape. 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:20.480 It's almost, I don't know if

they're trying to say like it's almost not impossible, but for true spirituality, you can't be alone or isolated in it. 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:21.680 No, it's communal. 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.440 It's an expert and it could be communal both you and a tree. 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:33.519 And it's yeah, but it's the politics that like that are the politics as in like the patriarchy that are getting, you know, in the way. 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:34.559 Don't mix them up. 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.240 Don't get a mix. 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.079 The ladies are like, hold up. 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:46.960 Because this is where with that in this world at this point, no political revolution is sustainable if if it is also not a spiritual revolution. 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:47.440 Yeah. 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:59.920 A complete ontological birth of new beings out of the old, equally, no spiritual activity deserves respect if it is not at the same time politically responsible, i.e., responsive activity. 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:00.720 Yeah. 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:05.599 We need to rethink the way that we think the world was. 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:10.640 But we need to get ready for the next stage of human evolution. 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.000 That's what I'm saying. 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:12.559 Okay. 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.880 Um, the envisioned, is that how you say that? 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.359 Envisaged, envisioned self. 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.480 Envisioned, envisioned self-vision. 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:24.480 But that's there's no N in it. 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:24.880 I know. 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.240 That's why I'm like, just make it ours. 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:26.960 Who's gonna know? 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:51.519 Your own self is the next stage of human evolution, and it will be born explicitly from the refusion of experienced spirit and experienced flesh, not as a means toward any externally established end, but as a consciously perceived process of evolution unfolding itself. 00:26:51.519 --> 00:27:07.200 We are evolving, and it's going to happen not by growing an extra arm or anything, but by using this thing in our head and exploring what we feel innately. 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:15.119 And that your soul and your spirit, those spiritual things, your mind and your spirit are the same thing, right? 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.200 Did you get that from what shit they were saying? 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.240 Like your thoughts are your spirituality. 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.759 That's what I got from that. 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.039 I don't know if you guys so uh that's what I took from it. 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:29.279 Yeah, like your intuition and your your knowing is your spirituality. 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:39.200 Yes, but thoughts are that's where remember that's like what um the male god, I mean not thoughts, but that's what they they try to take away. 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.200 And they even made your thoughts sins. 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:42.799 Yeah, yeah. 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.359 You will be feel guilty if you think that. 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:46.079 I know. 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:59.680 Evolution itself is a time process, seemingly a relentlessly linear unfolding, but biology also dreams, and in its dreams and waking visions, it outleaps time as well as space. 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:05.279 It experiences pre-vision, clairvoyance, telepathy, synchronicity. 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:12.960 Thus, what we have, what has been called a magical capacity built into our genes. 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.440 It is built into the physical universe. 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.680 Synchronicity is a quantum phenomenon. 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.240 This is my notes are I'm like, this is super woo-woo. 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:21.519 Yeah, I love the woo-woo. 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.319 But it is, it's so it's woo-woo, good woo-woo woo. 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:34.079 But this, we've talked before about that ability to dream, and that, you know, we've read this whole book, and their answer is they're like, you gotta get back to that, people. 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.039 You gotta open up that. 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:36.480 Yeah, and that and that ability to do that. 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.200 So you said this, the spirituality is connected to your brain. 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:46.319 The creativity, all of those things are what is God, right? 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.920 Um, I don't know why this is in italics. 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:56.240 I don't know if this is what she's saying, because there's nobody that quotes it, but it's like a little looks like a quote, it's in italics. 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.039 God is the universe. 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.839 We are all now living inside the body of God. 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.640 There is nowhere to go to get there. 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.400 We are already here. 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.759 There is nowhere to go to get outside of God. 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.039 There is just a forgetting of this truth. 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:20.559 It is impossible not to be living right now and always within God's body. 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:26.000 It is only possible to be aware or unaware of this fact. 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:26.960 And I'm aware. 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:28.079 Trip out on that. 00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:28.960 I'm aware. 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:29.920 Did you see this? 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:37.519 And then there's the um set amongst this long galactic terrestrial and human time of knowing our oneness. 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:51.440 The past 4,000 years of patriarchy's institutional and doctrinal denial of our oneness, once we see it for what it was, will appear a mere aberration. 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.079 Just a brief forgetting. 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:54.400 Yeah. 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.160 Just a just a whatever. 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:57.279 And you know what's cool? 00:29:57.279 -->

00:29:58.400 Is we're here for this. 00:29:58.400 --> 00:29:59.680 We're here for this, ladies and give us a little bit of a good one. 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:00.880 We're here and gentlemen. 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:05.680 Yeah. 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.680 Just that brief 4,000 years. 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:08.000 Yeah. 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:08.640 It'll be gone. 00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:09.519 It's a sneeze. 00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:10.880 No one's gonna remember this. 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:11.839 A blink. 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.559 It'll be like, these people were so crazy. 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:15.039 Yeah. 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:15.279 Yeah. 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.200 They're like, oh my god, for 4,000 years, just people were just stupid. 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.480 All of that leads us into. 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.960 Hopefully, if you just got this, just a brief forgetting, you're like, well, what? 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.680 Where do we end up? 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:35.599 But and I will tell you this. 00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.680 This is a little bit of a spoiler alert. 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.319 I was hoping there was gonna be like step-by-step. 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:40.799 Oh, yeah. 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.720 And also a like, you know, walk around a grave 12 times backwards at midnight. 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:45.440 That would be great. 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:45.680 Yeah. 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.119 Because then we could just get on with it. 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:47.440 Right. 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.720 Apparently, we all have to do a little bit of inner work. 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.160 But you gotta share this podcast. 00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:54.480 Right. 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:55.759 We need more people. 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:56.640 That's right. 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:01.759 So that moves us into the final chapter, Respell the World. 00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:07.920 And to me, this is this is more of almost like a manifesto because it is, it's poetic, it's beautiful. 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.839 And we're leading you to come with us. 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:18.640 And what I want to mention, in case I doubt anybody cool enough to listen to this, would be like spells, it's like witchy stuff. 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:30.559 But the another like whole point of this book is that we've been taught to think of spells and witches as like this horrible thing. 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:35.200 Meanwhile, we have all been under the spell of capitalism. 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.079 Yeah. 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.160 Yeah, we have. 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:44.000 And that is through the myths and stories that we've all come to believe. 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:49.440 And the purpose of this chapter is to say that's where you fix it, y'all. 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:49.920 Yeah. 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:50.880 Shake it off. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:56.000 You re-spell it by looking at and changing these stories and myths. 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.279 Change the narrative. 00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:58.640 Change the narrative. 00:31:58.640 --> 00:31:59.839 Change your thinking. 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:00.400 That's right. 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:01.759 Your thoughts. 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:02.559 Yeah. 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:04.000 It's time. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:05.119 It is time. 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.319 It is time. 00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.960 She says, so to re-spell the world means to redefine the root of our being. 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:12.640 Mm-hmm. 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.480 Yeah, we need we need to lead. 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:15.519 Do you have this highlight? 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.680 I'm like, if we don't if Joanna doesn't have this highlighted, so I'm on 425. 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:25.519 Perhaps ancient women had access to psychic and physical powers we have forgotten. 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:25.920 Yeah. 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:27.279 I'm almost like, not perhaps. 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:27.599 Nope. 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:28.480 Almost 100%. 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:29.359 Nope, they did. 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:29.839 100%. 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:30.559 Yeah. 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:43.519 Ancient people of both sexes living under the Stone Age great mother, like those remaining of Earth's primal people today, had magical powers of telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, teletransportation, fire lights. 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.359 They took it away. 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:48.559 I wonder, did we really? 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:49.519 I don't know. 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.079 But I also crazier things. 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.440 You know, I think teletransports cats. 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:57.039 You had to know I was going to say that. 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:57.519 Oh. 00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:59.839 You had to know I was going to say that. 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:00.880 I believe that. 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.440 Because sometimes they just pop out of nowhere. 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:08.400 Or they'll be sitting there and you're like, how can you just sit in that one spot in the middle of the rug for so long? 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.079 And they're like, because I'm not. 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:11.519 I'm not here. 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:12.640 Get it. 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.200 Right? 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.519 Because tele teletransportation is that. 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:18.400 You're not like moving your. 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:23.440 It's not like um, you can go Star Trek like yeah, you're not like dissolving yourself and then traveling yourself. 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:23.920 But you're not going to be able to do that. 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.160 No, but you leave, maybe go to Mars. 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:34.799 So not all of us forgot because people that do those things have been there. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:39.839 They were made fun of or like, you know, uh poo-pooed. 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.440 Put in jail to burned.

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:41.839 Yeah. 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:43.119 Oh, well then, yeah. 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:47.359 Uh I was talking about the 80s, but um they weren't burning them in the 80s. 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:47.759 But yeah. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:52.960 Well, they were sentencing, if you remember the like West Memphis Three were sentenced to death. 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:53.519 Oh. 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.759 There's pe even if you wore like a Metallica t-shirt. 00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:58.559 What? 00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.279 Pagans. 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:00.880 Remember Satanic Panic. 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.079 I remember that, but I don't remember anybody getting Yeah. 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:04.640 Whoa. 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.039 You've never seen all those documentaries about the West Memphis Three? 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:07.440 No. 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.000 Oh my god. 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:09.119 I have not. 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:10.320 I guess. 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:11.679 Well, now I got things to do. 00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.920 I was gonna say is I'm on this page. 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.360 Yeah, you're fabulous. 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:26.400 Um that we can imagine, as no other creature on Earth can do, signifies our uniqueness. 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:27.679 That's right. 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:32.960 Both its quality and here you go, its purpose. 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.480 We are the imagining animals. 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:43.519 We are the ones who participate in the Earth's evolutionary process of imagination. 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.480 It's us. 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.440 It is us. 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.519 Our our imagination could be more powerful than an A-bomb. 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.079 Yeah. 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.360 But we're giving it over to a story. 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.239 Yeah. 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.280 And to a story. 00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:00.559 And to, yeah, all I mean, yes, I mean it's very simple to be like and we're giving it over to our phones. 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.920 That's way beyond that, y'all. 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.599 But it is these stories, these origin stories, these uh bullshit, you know, patriotism stories. 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:08.159 And yeah. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:09.760 Well, we already know the story. 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:10.239 Yeah. 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:11.760 We know the important person. 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:12.639 It was him. 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:13.119 Right. 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.480 And I'm just a you know, it really is this. 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:23.360 Um, you probably have this too, imagination, which is a form of memory moving both forward and backward in time. 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:23.840 Yes. 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:31.760 The creative process itself, perhaps the greatest harm patriarchy has done to us is stifle, is that cooped? 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.559 Co-opt. 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:33.360 Oh,

co-opt. 00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:39.440 Why would I know the word co-opt, but it's very I just had the same problem with annihilate. 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.000 I know you're like, I've never heard that word. 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.320 I'm looking at it, I'm like, I know this word. 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.920 I know it's a menopause. 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.760 I bet it's menopause amendments. 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.800 Stifle, co-opt, and deform our powers of imagination. 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:59.440 And I think uh moralisms, dualistic dogmas, repressive prohibitions block our imagination at its source. 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.400 Yeah, block it right at our source because we don't have to think. 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.519 It's already been done. 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.000 Yeah. 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.559 They killed our imagination. 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:11.119 But this that is why, and people pay a lot of lip service. 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:15.519 I'm seeing it where they're like, it's artists that, you know, get us through. 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:16.960 And that is true. 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:23.760 The problem now is artists, we are in such advanced capitalism. 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:31.760 Any artists that can like make a living off their nobody, nobody is, it's all rich people's kids, you know. 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:40.880 So even the like the art that reaches people like nationally or you know, can make like a national movement, is it's all like filtered through capitalism. 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:41.119 Right. 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.320 So people are, but that doesn't mean it's hopeless. 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.599 I'm just saying that's how like fucked we are. 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.199 But I know there's people individually doing their stuff. 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.079 Like, we're here making a podcast, we like write stuff. 00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.119 I know there's people like making art and doing that. 00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.599 Well, even it's just more important than than you may think. 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.320 So keep doing it. 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.320 I've been watching a lot of these um one day choirs because they they'll do like a song, they're doing some really great stuff. 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:14.239 But I'm like, it's so therapeutic to and to have hundreds of people singing a song. 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.039 These are mostly songs of resistance that I'm getting. 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.119 They're coming together, singing these songs of r resistance. 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.719 There's like a bunch of different people, hundreds of people. 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.159 Where where are they doing this? 00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:27.920 Oh, churches, they show up. 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.960 So it's all around the United States. 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.800 Um, and they'll just say, Hey, we're doing a one-day choir, Who Wants to Come? 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:39.679 They just did a mashup of like war pigs, uh, all these war songs. 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:40.880 It was fabulous. 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:51.920 And you could just um and and it was uh I think it was mixed with uh Rage Against the Machine, so it ended with all these, and it was a whole range of people like that's evolution, baby. 00:37:52.320 --> 00:38:06.239 Evolution! And it reminds me, I was just telling you, I was telling Joanna about oh, I'm like really taking advantage of these art, art and craft classes at the local libraries. 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.400 That's plural, because if you really get into them, you're like, well, what's the next town over? 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.840 What are they doing weaving? 00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:12.880 What have they got? 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:14.960 Some crafty crafts for me. 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:21.599 The thing that I think is astounding is they are full. 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:41.840 Everyone I've gone to has 20 to 30, and it it's women, it's mostly women, but there's been a few, I mean, everybody's invited, but seeing people gather and create- you know, in combination with reading, you know, people coming together to like make stuff with their hands, you know, in create, imagine. 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.320 So it really is where it's at. 00:38:44.320 --> 00:39:12.719 I think that the problem is at least the for me, okay, in viewing and trying to, you know, not have a nervous breakdown in this, in this political climate and in our murderous world, is that is all of that messaging is so strong, it's so broad and it's like out of touch that it feels like when you it feels like getting together with a few people or doing your art, you're like, but that's not gonna do anything or whatever. 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.880 But it's no, I know that's why I'm like you that we can lose sight of that. 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:17.360 Yeah. 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.960 Where the And this this this you so you already knew that. 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:25.119 Well, since the beginning, um, because you've been with me through my whole breakdown. 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.079 You've always said, make you did you're you're freaking out, go make something with your hands. 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:31.360 And you're right. 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.039 It's true. 00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:33.679 It's true. 00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.159 It's a thought, like write a poem. 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:42.639 It makes you it literally, I don't know what it does, but it's obviously what we need. 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.280 And now I know that I'm not alone. 00:39:45.519 --> 00:40:03.599 If you think about it, the reason that the machine, the man, the patriarchy is kind of anti-art, anti-creativity is well, one, because it you know involves like complex thinking, which may make you be like, wait, you guys are kind of idiots. 00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.480 Wait, we're murdering people, you know, like wait a minute. 00:40:06.480 -->

00:40:07.679 Yeah, they'll be like, wait a minute. 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:08.960 Jesus wanted. 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:19.519 And on top of that, when you make something, you are reminded, wait, I can make stuff. 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:33.599 Like, why was I raised to believe that I have to like do all this stuff so then I can apply to a thing where I can be humiliated and bossed around, right? 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.519 Like, think that's what I'm saying. 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.360 Like you're not a good yeah. 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:46.079 So anytime you can make something with your hands or with your voice or in community, I mean I have to it is it is resistance. 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:55.280 This book is saying politics are not enough. 00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:08.000 Yeah, no, like even if we change, even if we like vote in a good, you know, well more left-leaning Democrat, like we're still, we're still under, you know, we're still under the boot. 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:08.480 Yeah. 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:09.840 Under the boot, y'all. 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.599 And that's why we gotta get get handsy with our praxies. 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:14.000 Right. 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.360 Get handsy. 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.719 I know, I know. 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:18.239 Um I was gonna go here. 00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:19.519 Yeah, go for it, go for it. 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:26.159 Patriarchal mystics are out of resonance with the earth spirit, with ecstasy, and with the dead. 00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.760 Most of all, they are out of contact with female energy. 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:38.400 Their patriarchal worldviews are based on a biophobic denial of this creative female energy that is in both women and men. 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.960 All of us live in societies constructed out of this denial. 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:50.400 Societies that have attempted for four millennia to repress and destroy the bisexual nature of us all. 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:51.840 What is ecstasy? 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.320 It's our original state of being. 00:41:54.320 --> 00:42:04.320 It is the conscious expansion of the universe into a multitude of interconnected dimensions and forms. 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.719 And dimensions we may not be able to see yet. 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:08.559 Yeah. 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:13.599 It is her dance of being from which all of us were born. 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:18.960 Ecstasy is passion, self-expressed through form. 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:20.960 We need to get back to our ecstasy. 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.960 We need to get back to our creativity. 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:29.119 We need to not be held back by some government or religion. 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:29.920 Here we go. 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:31.280 Are evolutionizing. 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:40.159 I'm telling you, this whole this whole thing, and as we're wrapping this chapter up, a return to the goddess is not a backward trip through space or time. 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:41.039 It's not. 00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:44.079 The human race cannot really return to infancy. 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.239 We are too far gone for that. 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:58.000 We return to the goddess by remembering, redefining, and respelling, by turning, as in dance, away from one gesture and towards another. 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:02.079 Patriarchal ontology is based on three-dimensional reality. 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:09.199 Modern physics is showing us that the universe has not four dimensions, but as many as eleven dimensions. 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.360 Trip out on that, perhaps more. 00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:17.360 The universe is undergoing a static exponential expansion into eleven or more dimensions. 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:23.360 Surely three-dimensional religions cannot keep us in touch with such a universe. 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:24.960 Oh my gosh. 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:32.239 I mean, that is super woo-woo, but it also is stuff that I have heard in legitimate science lectures. 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:41.199 And it is like Remember I sent you that video of that lady, and she was like, People always she because she just studies um star two stars far away and they're close to each other. 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:41.519 Yeah. 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.760 And they're like, have it and they people always want to be like, Do you think there's another dimension? 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.840 And she was like, I mean, I don't want to freak you out or anything. 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.039 And I was like, you did though, you did. 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.039 Someone else watch this. 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:56.000 I'm freaked out. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:57.599 But they're like, Well, that's why I like it. 00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.119 But it shouldn't excite us. 00:43:59.199 --> 00:43:59.760 They're like, I'm trying. 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.039 Trying to, I'm like, I don't know how to tell you. 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:09.519 I took one that I I really did take a like a short course of like um reality. 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:10.000 Okay. 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.199 Which is very it was so trippy, but they're like, I it's hard to describe what infinity is. 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:26.480 You know, like they're like, so what you're not understanding, what I'm trying to describe to you, you know, and their brains are already been open, and they're like, Oh, you little, yeah, you're coming. 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:27.360 Come along. 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.079 Come along. 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:29.519 Come come to this evolution. 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:30.719 Come along. 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:44.960 We must become beings who do not wish to control life, but only to listen to its music and dance it. 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:46.960 This is not easy to do. 00:44:46.960 --> 00:45:12.719 It might be impossible, but it is our only alternative to mass death, whether by like whether by war or total global mechanization,

which um there's a lot of stuff on that with AI, if they just let it take over, which is I think what uh the tech bros would like, because they think that's God. 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:18.880 So but would also cause mass death from everything that I've read, at least. 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.199 And these ladies do it in the 80s. 00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.400 The patriarchal god has only one commandment. 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.719 Punish life for being what it is. 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.639 The goddess also has only one commandment. 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.079 Love life. 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.639 For it is what it is. 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.559 Oh my god! I love life! For what it is. 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:39.760 For what it is. 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:40.719 Cause it is it. 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.639 Because it's us, it's nature, it's it's your cat. 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:48.159 It's making a card for someone. 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.039 It's library singing with other glasses. 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:52.079 Yes. 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.239 Oh my you guys, check out your library. 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:55.920 Check out your library. 00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.679 Oh my gosh. 00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.960 This is I have to read this because it starts with which. 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.519 Ooh, witch a woman. 00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:07.760 We are recording very late, so I feel I'm like, I don't think I've conveyed. 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.639 Maybe I'll have to record some like stuff tomorrow where I'm like, I'm not kidding. 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.800 You gotta read this very last chapter. 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.239 It's fucking crazy. 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.400 Do it! It's really beautiful. 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:19.599 It is gorgeous. 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:28.079 Witch power, it is said, cannot truly die since it is a real power of the real cosmos. 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.960 It can't die, it can only be forgotten. 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:31.519 Oh my god. 00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:46.400 That means it can also be re-remembered as the serpent can be awakened from its trance sleep at the bottom of the spine and induced to rise to become again in the luminous flying bird of the imagining mind. 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:47.440 Oh my mind. 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.199 And it just, like I said, this gets super like, you know, it's like metaphorical and poetic. 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:52.800 But I'm tingling. 00:46:52.800 --> 00:47:07.440 But they're making and the more I'm thinking about it, I'm like, they're making their point of saying use the creative mind by using their very beautiful prose to be like, and this is how you do it. 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.239 This flight is not an escape, but a return. 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:22.000 The only way for human beings to survive the end is to return to the beginning. 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:24.800 I love you. 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:26.320 Look, we're like cosmic mother. 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.159 Cosmic mother, I love you. 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:29.760 This is all the pages. 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:30.960 This is all the pages. 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.239 It's so thick. 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.920 I I'm not speaking for Joanna because she's awesome. 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.960 I'm like, I feel I will say I have not done this justice. 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:39.760 No, I know. 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.000 I And I also forget, look, we're we're here. 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.840 This is like a little bit book cluby. 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.440 We're just pulling some stuff out. 00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.679 This is so I want other people to read it and I want to be like, what do you think? 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:50.719 Tell me what you think. 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:51.599 What does it make you think? 00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.360 And tell me a story that goes with that. 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.679 I wonder if I can imagine some people reading this and being like, oh. 00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:58.800 I don't know. 00:47:58.800 --> 00:47:59.840 How can we make whatever? 00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:00.880 I don't why do I gotta think about that? 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.239 Yeah, don't. 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.239 Because like they will leave the soul bottom. 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.639 They just haven't been re-spelled. 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:09.760 That's right. 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:15.440 Yeah, it and it we are tasked with starting this evolution. 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:16.639 Like all of us. 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:18.639 If you heard us, I know. 00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:19.519 I'm so sorry. 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:20.079 You're in it. 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:20.800 You're in it. 00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.000 You're in this with us. 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.519 You better be firing up that imagination. 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.239 I'll tell you that, you know what I like about that chat? 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.320 Well, this whole this whole dang book. 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:42.320 I kind of started to get tired of, you know, when uh Orange Guy was re-elected and everybody's like, you gotta get ready. 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:43.599 And the answer is community. 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:44.239 It's community. 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:45.519 Oh, it's community. 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.000 Almost to a point where I'm like, what the fuck? 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.440 Like, what are you supposed to do if you're like trapped in a tiny rural town? 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:52.159 Yeah. 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.039 But and you don't want those people in your community. 00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:06.719 And it's not like it's not like I hate community, but I think that this gives like this whole cosmic holistic background to that, what they mean, like community. 00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:13.039 And I also think it's important to think about again, we see things so like nationally, it's so huge, everything's so bad.

00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:24.079 We want to like change all these other people and convince a bunch of other folks, but truly the first step to like I said, is to de you know get witchy in yourself, yeah. 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.199 Tap it, tap into your mat, tap into your matches. 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.840 And I'm not saying like, and so do that for five years and then no. 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:38.159 I don't, but it really is like check in with yourself and make sure that you're activating your imagination. 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:54.960 And if you think about it, like if you make something, and there's a million things to make because you can't like make me if you have something to share with other people, that is so much more effective than being like, I need to go convince this person of like this thing that's going on. 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:59.840 It's almost like everybody just like stop talking and do stuff, yeah, make something, make something. 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.559 Make something for people, do something. 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.920 If I I'm curious, many of the listeners are like, that's perfect. 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:09.280 Like, that's a disappointing, like what we should do. 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.159 But I I think it's it's really cool. 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:20.159 It I mean it's along with a million other things that you can like do in your daily life where you're like, I need to, you know, organize, show up to this thing, call this rep. 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:20.800 Of course. 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:24.559 I'm not saying like just forget all that, and like take up painting. 00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.320 No, we can't stop uh the resistance, obviously. 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:33.199 But you can change your mind as to where are we really going? 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:38.880 Like once we exactly once we get past the turd, where do we want to go? 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:39.440 Right. 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.000 And this is a good direction. 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:42.400 Right. 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:43.119 It's cool. 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:44.800 Yes, do cool stuff. 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.079 Do cool stuff, do cool stuff, do cool stuff. 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.880 Don't let creepy capitalists tell you what's cool. 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.360 Do cool stuff and trust yourself. 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:54.320 Bye doctor. 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:57.039 Feel yourself, yeah. 00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:57.840 Feel yourself, yeah. 00:50:57.840 --> 00:50:59.679 Act feeling, that's right. 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:00.320 Feel it. 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.239 Feel it, experience it, do it. 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:16.559 Oh my goodness. 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.000 Okay, so that's it. 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:18.719 That's it. 00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:23.360 We may have finished reading The Great Cosmic Mother for the first time. 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:24.159 Yeah. 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:30.480 But I know we'll probably go back and to get more inspiration to respell the world. 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.039 Because there's a bit of work to do. 00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.519 That being said, we want to hear from you. 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.920 What stories and myths and notions are you focused on respelling? 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:47.840 What story is being told through the media, entertainment, conversations, and so on that doesn't sit right with you. 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:54.239 And what is the new story or myth you're going to use to respell the world? 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:54.719 Yeah. 00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:56.320 We seriously want to know. 00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:57.199 Tell us. 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:57.920 Tell us. 00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.280 Let us know in the comments or send us a text or voicemail. 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:02.480 And you can do that. 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.320 There's links in our show notes, our fabulous show notes. 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.519 Until then, you only need to remember one story. 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:11.119 We are all connected. 00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:18.079 No matter what anyone is trying to sell you, you already have the energy of all the cosmos. 00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:24.000 So plug in and go forth and do your thing. 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.039 Yes, it's your thing.