บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Bitching About Peeing Ourselves

00:02:31.439 Oh no. 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.080 Well, now you're gonna see him every time you go to the farmer's market. 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:35.199 That is so cool. 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.680 Farmer's Market goes through the end of October. 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.560 I am so gonna be staking it out every weekend. 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:41.439 Oh my god. 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:45.199 Maybe, maybe get the courage to say hello. 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:47.120 That's amazing. 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:48.960 So cool. 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:50.560 I think that's so cool. 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:52.000 Okay, so fun fact. 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.479 I'm gonna change my fun fact because my fun fact was different. 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:58.400 So uh uh passing passing the George, I am Marnie. 00:02:58.479 --> 00:02:59.520 I'm in the DC area. 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.800 I am drinking uh vodka and pineapple juice right now. 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.240 Oh no, it's not vodka, it's spiced rum, spiced rum and pineapple juice. 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:06.800 Delicious. 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:11.520 Um both are both are good, but the spiced rum, I think, is very, very good. 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:41.759 Um, and my fun fact actually is that um I got to meet River Phoenix and Richard Harris, both of whom rest their souls, um, when I was touring in a Shakespeare company and we went through New Mexico and they whatever film that they did together where they uh were filming in some desert, um, and they like we were in this dinky little motel and we were performing at like the middle school. 00:03:42.479 --> 00:04:13.120 And uh and so like we uh when we excuse me, when we went to breakfast, my friends Lauren and T and I were at a table and and Chris, I think it was Chris, um yeah, and my friend and our friend Chris, and and there he was like, Oh my god, River Phoenix and Richard Harris are at the table, and we're like turning around and be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:17.439 And he walked up and gave them a flyer for our show. 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.519 They were like, Yeah, we'll try to make it. 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:31.519 We were like, We won't, but you know, um, but it was uh it was it was really funny. 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:36.720 Um, so now like I have the time that I met R River Phoenix and Ridge Rederis. 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.759 Um but it's okay. 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:40.720 That's true. 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:42.319 I know what you're gonna do. 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.759 Um, so yeah, that's that's my fun fact. 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:55.040 And um we are gonna introduce something called the White Pants Party. 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:57.519 The White Pants Party. 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:08.800 You know, like some podcasts or shows will uh say, oh, you know, happy birthday to people who are like, you know, we want to start a new celebration. 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:22.160 And it's a celebration of when you have

reached that magical menopause day that is one year past your last period, and we want to call it the White Pants Party Day. 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:44.399 And your friends should all like start a little um um like a registry for your favorite uh like pair of clothing that is either white or light colored, something that you could not wear when you were actively bleeding, um, for fear that it might be get ruined. 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:49.839 Even though, like, whenever I wear anything white, I I get it stained immediately. 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:51.519 But now it's one less stain. 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:52.879 It's one less stain. 00:05:53.040 --> 00:06:03.040 So maybe like nice sheets, nice white sheets or nice like yellow or light-colored sheets, something, something really dangerous to wear when you were still breathing. 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:10.319 So I hit my white pants party uh when I was 49 in April of 2000. 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.639 Um, no, sorry, 2020. 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:14.240 I was like, I'm not that old, Jesus. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:15.519 2020. 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.519 In April of 2020, during the pandemic, of course. 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:27.120 Um, but it is it is a glorious, glorious day. 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:32.399 And my friend Kiki said, Oh, now you can wear white pants whenever you want. 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:38.240 So let me ask, Marnie, did you get yourself a pair of fancy white pants? 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:44.639 You know, I did get myself um like a nice light-colored skirt. 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:51.759 Ooh, I don't like wearing anything that's like too close, and I am like the whitest white girl ever. 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.319 Like, I am almost see-through. 00:06:54.560 --> 00:07:01.600 My ancestry is like, you know, on 23 and me, it's like you are only from Europe and that is it. 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.079 Like, don't even look anywhere else. 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:09.279 Um, so like I don't like wearing colors that are close to the color of my skin. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:16.399 So, like beige and light, you know, white or anything. 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:22.160 However, um, I did get myself a really nice light-colored skirt because I was like, you know what? 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.040 And it's it's like a subtle pink, I think. 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:29.120 Oh, I love a subtle pink, yeah, like a rose or a blush type of thing. 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:30.879 Yeah, yeah, pinky. 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:32.000 Purplish. 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.040 Um something that definitely would have been ruined. 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.079 But but now it's all mine. 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:39.040 I love it. 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:40.000 Thank you. 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:42.240 So that's a white pants party. 00:07:42.319 --> 00:08:01.759 So if you or a loved one have hit your your menopause day and you would like to be welcomed into the post-menopausal club for people who have earned their white pants, please send us your first name and your age if you like, or you can just say, you know, a screen name. 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:08.160 Uh, you know, I am, you know, mom to four and I'm, you know, 52 years old or whatever. 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:15.759 Um, and we will give you a shout-out on the air because it is a milestone that should be celebrated. 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:16.959 100%. 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:19.839 I cannot wait for my white pants. 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:22.000 Exactly. 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:23.519 Oh my gosh. 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.839 Have you seen The Last Fuckable Day? 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:40.159 No, it's an Amy Schumer sketch that is um, oh gosh, it's Julia Louis Dreyfus, Tina Faye, and um uh who's the woman on severance? 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:41.360 Patricia Arquette. 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:53.120 Um, and they're having a picnic in the park, and they're like drinking and toasting each other, and um, and it's Julia Louis Dreyfus's last fuckable day. 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.679 And and Amy Schumer comes running up. 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:57.840 She's like, Oh my god, you're my heroes. 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.480 And they're like, Oh, come on down, come and sit down. 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:04.480 And then they're like, Well, like, what are you what are you celebrating? 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.360 And they're like, Well, it's Julia's last fuckable day. 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.360 They're like, What are you talking about? 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:24.000 Like, well, you know, Hollywood decides like when when your last fuckable day is, and you go from, you know, being the uh the the main character's wife to being the main character's mother, and it could turn like that basically. 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.080 It is so genius, and like, well, what about a men's last fuckable day? 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:29.600 And they all start laughing. 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:36.080 Yeah, so that leads us into peeing ourselves. 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:44.879 Because that is one of the things that happens as your pelvic floor goes to shit. 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:51.279 So, um, Dom, do you have any any stories about uh peeing yourself or should I go first? 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:52.879 You go ahead. 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:53.440 Okay. 00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:04.399 So um my peeing myself story, I didn't know, like I did not have a a vaginal birth. 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:05.600 I had a C-section. 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:20.799 So I thought, you know, the public floor going to shit was like after you have a vaginal birth, like like you you start to lose control of those muscles because they've been used and whatever, and like ex expanded or what what have you. 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:26.879 Um, and I was playing uh the sister-in-law in Cat on a hot tin roof. 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:40.639 And we played me as like, she's like got six kids, and um, we played me as like so pregnant that like it looked like I had a yoga ball underneath my underneath

my t-shirt. 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:46.480 And so at the end, I go off screaming that these people are liars. 00:10:46.720 --> 00:11:02.879 They're liars, you're liars, you're liars, liars, and um and uh the first time it happened, like I was on stage and it was just like I was like, I think I just peed myself a little bit. 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:12.879 And I went back stage, it was luckily it was my exit, and I was like, holy shit, I totally just like peed my pants a little bit. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.159 I'm like, what the hell is going on? 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:23.039 I come to find out that as you age, it doesn't matter, your pelvic floor muscles start to atrophy. 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:27.840 And thank you, lack of estrogen, that's what's happening. 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:37.120 Um so it continued to happen because I was on stage like six nights a week for like three years at that point. 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.960 Um, and I was doing show after show after show. 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:52.240 And if I had a character who was really loud and screaming, and it wasn't always anger screaming, it was like joy screaming, I I would have to wear like a massive poise pad. 00:11:52.720 --> 00:12:06.240 And the the worst time that it happened, I was in this very uh this uh very uh popular show at a very popular theater down here in DC. 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:29.679 And I played a character whose kid got into Yale, and my friend hears me talking on the phone, and that my my kid has gotten into Yale, and I turn around and I'm like, Yale, and I'm like, I'll go, Yale! And I screamed it, and like the floodgates open. 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:43.200 No, I'm on stage in front of a full opening night house, and luckily my costume was dark jeans and a very long sweater. 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:51.840 I went backstage and I was like, I because I could I there was nothing I could do, like no kegel was going to stop this. 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:55.840 And I was like, I can't fucking believe this. 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.600 I cannot fucking believe this. 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:04.080 Um, and so like I had to go back, I didn't have, I hadn't worn jeans to the theater, it was opening night. 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:06.639 I wore like I didn't have backup jeans. 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.320 I had one pair of jeans for the whole show. 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:21.200 So I had to like scrub out the jeans, wash them really quickly, um, on, you know, in the the laundry and put them in like the dryer and put them back on before my second entrance. 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.840 And I was like flipping out. 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.159 I'm like, they're everybody's gonna smell that I've got pee on me, everything. 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:32.480 No, nobody noticed, not a single person noticed. 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:33.360 So what did I do? 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:34.320 I told everybody. 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:34.960 Of course. 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:36.399 I mean, that's what

we do. 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.600 I went around at the opening night party going, I totally peed my pants on stage. 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:43.919 Like literally peed my pants. 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:45.600 Um we do. 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.240 So hashtag neurodivergent. 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:49.919 Hashtag neurodivergent, right? 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:51.360 Hashtag overshare. 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:55.279 Um, so hashtag no tmi on this podcast. 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:57.360 No tmi at all. 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.120 So um, so yeah, that was my thing. 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.039 That and uh I can't go to trampoline parks anymore, apparently. 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.240 I mean, do you want to? 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.480 I mean, kinda. 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:12.639 I like trampolines. 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.120 But but poise pads exist, so that's good. 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:18.879 That is that is good. 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:19.759 How about you? 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:20.960 How about you, Dom? 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:26.720 I know you don't you uh you are like you didn't have the vaginal birth uh either. 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:30.000 So uh what is your your uh your story? 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:31.440 Yeah, it's interesting. 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.960 I've made no babies, yes. 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:42.480 So uh so here's the thing like first of all, I've always had like a tiny, tiny bladder. 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.440 I've never been able to hold my pee for very long. 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:53.440 When I was a kid, my mother used to joke that we knew where every single bathroom was in Disney World because I used it. 00:14:54.159 --> 00:15:09.600 And my husband and I have driven and moved cross-country twice, and I swear to god, he was ready to leave me in the Midwest a few times because of how much I had to pee. 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:15.120 I have peed behind I so many bushes and trees and rocks. 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:23.840 It's like sometimes even when there's no those aren't available, it's pulling the car over and opening a door and then peeing behind the door on the side of the road. 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.639 Like I have pee issues. 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:38.240 And then so in my, I want to say my actually this my peeing myself origin story starts in my late 30s. 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:48.480 So even so even so even before I started to put together symptoms for perimenopause, this is when when like I started to have some bigger issues. 00:15:48.879 --> 00:16:08.399 In my late 30s, I was training at a uh a boxing club, and it's like one of those actual like like what you see on like rocky boxing clubs where oh yeah, yeah, you know, the the fighters go in, there's you know, you go in, you you have your certain warmups that you do, and the coaches walk around and they train you. 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:13.360 And um, so I'm there with like a bunch of like fighter dudes. 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:14.320 Wow. 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:20.080 And you have to do your first round whenever you go, it's five minutes of jump roping. 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:21.440 Oh my god. 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:22.320 Oh my god. 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:24.960 I was there with one of my good friends. 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.799 She and I she and I had just started training there together. 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:32.960 Fucking pissed myself when I started jump roping. 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:33.679 Oh my god. 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:35.039 Just full on pede. 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:36.320 Oh my god. 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:38.879 I was wearing black leggings. 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:39.360 Thank god. 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:41.360 God. 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:42.960 And I was like, what the fuck? 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:47.200 And I still had 60 minutes of rounds to go. 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:48.480 Oh Jesus. 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:49.279 Oh my god. 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.799 Including having to like work with one of the coaches while they hold mitts. 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.080 And I'm like, oh my god, I have to walk around here smelling like piss. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:56.960 Oh my god. 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:04.640 Fortunately, if you've never been in a boxing gym before, it smells like every kind of foul human matter there is in general. 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.640 So, because let's see, fighter dudes fucking stink. 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.839 Um they smell like mad. 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:15.920 They smell like it's disgusting. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:17.119 They smell like ass. 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:22.000 Um, and so like it's stunk in there in general, anyhow. 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.400 So, but I was in my head, I'm like, I smell like pee. 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.720 Everybody's gonna know I smell like pee. 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:30.400 And so I was like, that was weird. 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.200 I must have like just had a wicked full bladder. 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:39.440 So next time we go, I should my friend's like, Dominique, pee, go pee right now, go pee. 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.440 And I go and I go pee before jump roping, start jump roping, piss myself again. 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.079 No, oh my god. 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.960 We're training like two, three times a week. 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:50.000 Oh my god. 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:56.400 So it gets to the point where like the running joke, like at this point, my friend's like, you're gonna piss yourself every fucking time you jump rope. 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:57.440 You need to just start wearing something. 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:03.599 So I started wearing pads every time I went, which is disgusting when you're sweaty. 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:19.839 I know because it's like it's a hot ass boxing gym with no real AC, it's just fans, stinky men everywhere, yeah, and just like you're sweaty, and then you wear a pad that you peed into when you were jump roping. 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:21.920 Oh

god. 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:28.079 Oh, I enjoy being a girl, so fun. 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:31.599 And then it continued to like go beyond jump roping. 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:35.359 Now it's like I would I would sneeze and I would pee. 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.359 I would cough and I would pee. 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.079 I laughed too hard and I would pee. 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:48.640 It's just like what the f it was like I had no fucking control downstairs anymore. 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:49.200 Yeah. 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:55.759 So I did start to do some things to help that, but I'm gonna save that for when we go talk about our recommendations. 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.480 But that is my that is my bitch sesh. 00:18:58.640 --> 00:18:59.920 Oh my gosh. 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.119 Thank you, thank you for your bitch sesh. 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:05.599 Um, so god, that's awful. 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:10.799 So John our John Duddy, our uh our editor, by the way, calls it tiny tank. 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:14.799 Like Tiny Tank, Tiny Tank. 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:16.960 That's adorable. 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:22.000 So now you have now you have something you can call it, like your tiny tank. 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:27.519 So it's what's funny is that's what we call our our one of our dogs. 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:34.720 She's an American bully, and she's like this very compact muscular bully, and we call her tiny tank. 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:36.319 Oh my gosh. 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.440 Does she have a tiny tank or can she hold her pee? 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:41.519 She can hold her pee a lot better than I can. 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:46.000 Oh my gosh. 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:57.759 Um so uh uh we we have our bitch sessions about this, but like um, do you have you read any hormone horror stories about about this? 00:19:58.559 --> 00:19:59.839 So, okay. 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.279 I I had some fun on Reddit today. 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:03.920 Uh-huh. 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.279 And and so a couple of things. 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.640 First, I always love like different names for things. 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.119 I just think it's really fun, like Tiny Tank. 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:13.440 Uh-huh. 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:21.279 And so I was like, what do you want, what do people is there anything else people call women people with ovaries call when we pee ourselves by accident? 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.640 And there's there's the sneeze pee. 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:25.599 Right. 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.519 There's the sneeze-alick. 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.200 There's the giggle dribble. 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:34.319 I really like the giggle dribble. 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:35.920 I think that's a great one. 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:44.000 Oh my gosh! And then there's what I used to do before jump roping, thinking I would help me from peeing myself, the pre-game pee. 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:48.720 Like those those were great. 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:51.119 But giggle dribble is my favorite. 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:52.079 Giggle dribble. 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:53.359 Yeah, go ahead. 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.400 Oh, and then on um on Reddit, I was like, what else? 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:02.000 What what do people talk about when it comes to peeing themselves in this era? 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.160 And there were some, you know, just like some affirming stories. 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:17.359 Uh one person wrote that she was running a 10-mile race, fully peed herself in mile eight, and at the next water station poured a water cup on herself to hide her shame. 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:18.720 Oh no. 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:24.720 Another person said she was sitting on her hubby's lap when he tickled her. 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:25.680 Oh no. 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:33.279 Whole bladder emptied all over his legs, and she wrote, blah ha ha, serve them right. 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:34.880 Tickling is not fair. 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:35.920 It is not fair. 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:42.880 Someone else said that coughing is their nemesis, and when they're recovering from a cold, they were a full on maxi pad. 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:48.160 Another person peed all over themselves, tailgating at a football game. 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:56.160 Um someone else peed themselves on a bumpy roller coaster said that it shook the pee out of them. 00:21:58.079 --> 00:21:59.599 Oh my gosh. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:01.039 I don't know. 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:02.880 Oh, what someone else said. 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.920 I recently said to my husband, doesn't everyone pee a little bit every time they sneeze though? 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.000 And he was like, Yeah, no. 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.039 Megan, my friend Megan calls that the sniss. 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:21.279 The snare is a prisoner, though. 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.039 So like it's a sniss. 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:26.640 That is amazing. 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:30.160 But this isn't like one of the things that you said is a sniss. 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:31.119 I love that. 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:41.839 I I was gonna say that like I have seen um like it's either t-shirt or uh like um, I think it's a t-shirt or like a like a tea towel or something like that. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.799 Says, I laugh so hard tears ran down my leg. 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.920 Oh because laughing too hard, too. 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:52.880 You gotta like literally you can pee yourself laughing. 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.680 The giggles are real, the giggles are real. 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:01.920 Oh my gosh. 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:16.400 So I was looking up some of the things that uh people had sent me for hormone horror stories, and Colleen was talking about um embracing the crone, just embracing this stage of life. 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:32.240 Like we my my sisters and I like um I I went great at like uh my hair turned white at like 24, and I only

stopped dyeing it when my kiddo was born because I at that time was dyeing my hair every two weeks. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:38.960 Oh wow, and so uh I I couldn't do that with an infant. 00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:48.720 Um, so I I that's when I started embracing my crone and and uh Colleen was talking about embracing the crone. 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:59.519 My sisters are all all letting their hair go uh go silver after like me, and they're all younger than I am, so like all three of them are younger than I am. 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:00.799 I love that. 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:04.480 Yeah, so they are they are just amazing. 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:22.079 And Colleen also wanted to talk about Vellus hair, it's that that light hair that like everybody on a derma plane uh ad coats with powder in order to like shave, show it we're covered in hair, first of all, for mammals, right? 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.880 Um, so we're covered in hair. 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:26.640 There's the that's all there is to it. 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:34.480 But the Vellus hair, it it's like maintaining my mustache has become a full-time job. 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:39.599 And my grandmother used to call the the ones that stuck out on her chin her goat hairs. 00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:44.240 Like, like I have tweezers everywhere, every fucking where. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:51.440 Um so those were like the things about um that she had sent. 00:24:52.079 --> 00:25:00.000 Uh let's see, my only contribution is I'm pretty sure the Mira Mirana IUD is saving my ass. 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:01.920 Erin said that. 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:05.039 Aaron says the Mirana IUD is saving my ass. 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:06.720 Um, let's see here. 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.200 Anybody else sent me stuff? 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.440 Uh hair loss is a big thing. 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:11.839 Yeah. 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:17.519 Like my mom, my mom's hair started to really thin uh after menopause. 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.640 Um let's see, what are some other horror? 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:33.200 Oh, so um Megan uh who was in the chat earlier, um, she sent me a whole thing and she gave me permission to uh to send send this to you or to tell this to you. 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.079 Uh there we go. 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.480 Excuse me, I have to clear my throat to read this to you. 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:52.400 Um so she sent me uh I legit got the words my doctor told me to come because I've been feeling is what she said. 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:58.720 And then the uh the OBJN it hit the roof. 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.599 Oh wait, okay, I have to go back a little bit farther. 00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:07.599 Um so her doctor yelled at her. 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:09.119 What? 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:10.720 Her doctor yelled at her. 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:11.599 What? 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:23.599 The doctor was so angry that her primary care doctor told her to go to a gynecologist for her yearly PAPS due to

her age. 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:25.119 Made lots of sense. 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.240 She was 46. 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:28.000 She was pissed. 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:32.400 She told me I wasn't in anything, and my mood was changing. 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:33.440 My mood was changed. 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:35.680 If my mood was changing, it was due to depression. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:41.839 Oh while she was naked under a paper robe, can't make this shit up. 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.839 And she, the woman was probably 50, so maybe she was having her own perimetopausal rage. 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:49.599 She's like, let's get this pap going. 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:54.640 And she said it felt like a first date with a really aggressive sexual deviant all of a sudden. 00:26:54.880 --> 00:27:09.759 And uh, and she said she legit got out the words, my doctor told me to come because I've been feeling, and then she hit the roof and then she like shut down because she's like, Well, no, everything's fine, you know, because she's a doctor and I don't know anything. 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:16.960 Then she told me I shouldn't be uh anyway, she was like, I literally said nothing for the rest of the appointment. 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.319 Mine is a few mm-hmms. 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.920 I guess she took me that as me being closed-minded about her advice. 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.319 And meanwhile, I'm like, Well, I thought this wasn't a hormonal shift yet. 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:27.519 The fuck? 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.079 Yeah, and it was a very small office. 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:36.880 So when she walked out, um, everybody turned and looked at her because they heard everything. 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:37.279 No. 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:39.039 It yelled at her. 00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:39.920 Yes. 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:48.240 And she said, so she said she went into the um they had had a flood or something, so there was all this construction going on. 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.920 Um, and and uh like they could hear everything. 00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.680 And so then she got everybody's like, what the actual fuck? 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:02.079 And like she went out to like the hallway and started just bawling. 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:03.279 Yeah, of course she did. 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.039 She's completely traumatized, so she's like, forget this. 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.160 Like it, you know, I should be good for two years. 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.079 I'm gonna, I'm not gonna go back. 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:30.640 Um, so but just think about all these any women who have had experiences like this, and they're scarred for life and they don't go back, and then they they don't have any um relief from it because they they just have nobody they feel they can talk to, which is why we're here, by the way. 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:37.599 Why we're like yeah, please share your own hormone horror stories so that people don't feel so alone. 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:38.319 Yeah. 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:43.119 Um, so if you have any, write them to us at bitchesing podcast at gmail.com. 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:44.559 We'll share them on the air. 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.319 If you see us in person, we can record a little voice memo of you. 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:53.039 Um, if you're here with us in the chat, feel free to share your own hormone horror stories. 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:54.240 It's that's hard to say. 00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.319 Hormone horror stories. 00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.640 Hormone horror story should be. 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.440 So American Horror Story Menipause Edition. 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.079 So don't let people bully you. 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:06.480 Go ahead. 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:11.279 No, no, we gotta normalize talking about this and sharing our stories. 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:17.839 Um, but speaking of sharing, back to peeing ourselves. 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:18.559 Yes. 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:25.119 Anything that you've done in particular that has helped you reduce peeing yourself? 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.200 Yes, as a matter of fact, yes. 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.960 So our dear friend Andy, who we are gonna see in October, so excited. 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.680 Um, so she turned me on to this Kegel app. 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:53.039 And I did look it up, and Kegel and Kegel are both uh accepted pronunciations because we're we're we're geek uh audiobook narrators, so we do that thing, but uh he was German, so he's called Kegel, so it's like Kegel, Kegel, Kegel. 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:54.160 Um, Dr. 00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.519 Kegel uh came up with these kegel exercises. 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.039 There's an app, and I will look it up and put it in the show notes. 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:09.200 It's a kegel app uh that you um it's not just uh, you know, like you can do kegels right now. 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:10.400 I'm doing kegels right now. 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:15.920 Um exactly, you can do them anywhere. 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.480 Um, but kegels really do help. 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:25.680 Um, but this particular app has like whole has you exercising your muscles. 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:31.759 So basically holding them for a certain amount of time, then releasing and then holding, but it's not like longer and longer. 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:43.279 It's like sometimes it's short and closer together, and sometimes it's a really long one, but it goes up and up and up in um uh in intensity, like and different. 00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.440 Yeah, it's just like training for a marathon, right? 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:54.000 I have not had any issues with peeing myself in several years because of this cagle app. 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.000 So, yeah, yes. 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.799 So I will look it up, I will put it in the show notes. 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.279 It is it is remarkable. 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:02.880 Uh

amazing. 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.160 Yeah, so there's that. 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:09.920 Also, vaginal estrogen is the only thing that has helped me. 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:16.240 And our very next episode, we're gonna talk about um parlorgames.com. 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:25.279 We're gonna be joined by Kate Wells, who is the founder of Parlor, it's ParlourHyphen Games.com, is the website, and we'll link to that. 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.920 Um, she has estradiol and other bioidentical creams. 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:40.000 Um, and one of the ones that she has is called silky peach cream, and it is amazing, it has helped so much. 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.640 And she's a scientist, like she she started this company because nobody was helping. 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.880 Um, and it's very affordable. 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:48.079 So check out them out. 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.160 Yeah, parlourhyphengames.com. 00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.640 Um, so vaginal estrogen and estradiol. 00:31:53.200 --> 00:32:01.440 Um, I am not a candidate for hormone replacement therapy, unfortunately, because I have blood clotting issues and it would kill me. 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:02.720 So we're not gonna do that. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:04.720 We don't want that. 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:15.359 So uh so that's those are the things that I use is the the um vaginal estrogen, the estradiol, and the uh cagle exercises and also poise pads. 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:20.480 I mean, when all else fails, you know, just poise that's what they're for. 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:25.039 And they actually do trap the um the smell as well. 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:26.400 That's what they're made for. 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.640 So that yeah, it's a lot better than just wearing like a um a maxi pad. 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:31.839 A maxi pad, yeah. 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:32.160 Yeah. 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.440 Poise pads are are a different uh a different breed. 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.279 They're meant for the urine. 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:41.119 They're meant for the urine that dribbles down your leg when you laugh. 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:43.039 For the giggle dribble. 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.640 They're gonna giggle dribble hashtag giggle dribble. 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:49.519 Um, what about you, Dom? 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:51.279 Do you have anything that you do? 00:32:51.680 --> 00:33:08.400 Yeah, well, so shortly after I started to have those issues, um, we moved to a different state, and someone had recommended that actually someone who had recently had a baby who was having the same issues had recommended that I look into pelvic floor therapy. 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:15.680 Oh, so I did about six months of pelvic floor therapy a few years ago. 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:25.759 And I mean, the the therapist was incredible, and she 100% normalized it, didn't make it weird, and she was like, This is what we do, and she was like, it's totally normal. 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.680 I

felt weird about it because I was like, never done that before. 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.039 I've never done it before, and I'm like, oh man, I gotta take my pants off. 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:38.799 So I have imagine a gym, but like, what do you what happened? 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:51.440 So I literally went to like a physical therapist place where other people, like runners and stuff, were like and people who had different injuries were working on other physical therapy. 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:53.680 Oh so yeah, pelvic floor therapy. 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.759 Tell me about pelvic floor therapy. 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:08.000 So I get brought into a room at the physical therapist's office that looks like a doctor's office, and she, you know, has me undress from the waist down and put a little gown around my waist and leaves the room for that part, obviously. 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:11.039 And so it's kind of like getting set up for your annual pap smear. 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:11.519 Okay. 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:25.920 And so, and then I lay down on the table and then she came in, and essentially, like she did like internal sort of massage. 00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:26.960 Oh, wow. 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:27.360 Okay. 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:28.239 Yeah. 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:29.360 Awkward. 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.639 Um, but she also was like talking to me. 00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:39.760 It didn't actually part sometimes it was like a little like I could actually feel where there was tension. 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:46.079 Oh you know how like when you get like a regular massage and you can like feel where like the massage therapist like hits the knot on you. 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.599 Like I could I could feel that when she got to that. 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.159 Oh wow. 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.800 And she was sort of like it was very systematic. 00:34:52.880 --> 00:35:09.519 And this was a couple of years ago, so I'm trying to recall from a couple of years ago, but like she was moving in like certain directions and was having me like uh breathe in certain ways and then also like clench and unclench and like use my muscles down there, so like keegling. 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:16.000 Yeah, but yeah, she was doing basically some like internal manual work on me. 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.400 Really fucking awkward. 00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:19.199 Yeah. 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.360 Hi, nice to meet you here. 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.840 You can cause your insights. 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.880 I'm going to yeah. 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.880 Um, but she was also explaining everything to me while she was doing it. 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:36.159 Um, awkward but not inappropriate or anything like that. 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:41.440 She was she was high highly professional, really, really actually a lovely person. 00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.840 And then she was explaining to me what was going on. 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.320 Okay. 00:35:44.480

--> 00:35:50.960 And then she was giving then in between appointments, um, I had to do it for myself. 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:52.880 Oh, yeah. 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.840 And so she would recommend that I take lube into the shower. 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.199 This sounds like it's about to be the beginning of like a sexy story. 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.360 It is not a sexy story. 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:05.199 Yes. 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:13.840 And she wanted me to take lube into the shower, and basically, I shouldn't be doing this with I'm like, I am mining it with my fingers. 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.519 We will stop doing that. 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:27.280 Um, and basically like rotating counterclockwise or clockwise and doing like specific types of internal massage on my muscles downstairs. 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:27.920 Okay. 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:29.199 All right. 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.440 And then then she said a lot of it too for me was also some self-talk. 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:49.760 So one exercise that she gave me, okay, that I could do without putting my fingers inside myself, um, was she said, if I felt like I urgently needed to go, which was all the time. 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.719 Like I have, like I was having a problem with like urgency. 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:53.679 Oh, sure, sure. 00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:03.280 She was like, okay, what you she would have me breathe in a way to like, you know how we would do diet diaphragm breathing to like fill our diaphragm? 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.639 She wanted me to breathe into my pelvic floor. 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:08.000 Okay, all right. 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:15.760 So it's like if you think about breathing down past your diaphragm into your pelvic floor and sort of visualize that. 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:24.239 So she would want me to breathe into it three times, okay, really slow, keegle three times. 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.159 Okay, breathe into it three times again. 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:35.760 Okay, all right, and that was supposed to help relieve the urgency. 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:46.880 The other thing she had me doing was, you know, I used I call it power pee, like when I'm trying to go to the bathroom real fast and like sit down on the toilet and like push the pee out. 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:47.760 Yes. 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.599 She was like, that's part of what was fucking me up was my power pee. 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:57.519 And she's like, you need to just sit down on the toilet and just let the pee come and not push. 00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:59.039 No pushing. 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:00.639 I did not know this. 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.559 This is why we have these conversations. 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:03.440 I did not know that. 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:09.519 Yeah, and she said, if she said, if I did anything, not to push, but to breathe into my pelvic floor. 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:10.079 Okay. 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:22.400 Because that expands where your bladder is and like helps push out the and if I still felt like I needed to pee more instead of pushing to kind of move my torso around while sitting. 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:29.519 So, like, kind of like moving, like almost like pretend you're a belly dancer and you're shifting your torso around while on the toilet I need to stop. 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:30.880 That's gonna make me have to pee. 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.599 Um I've been drinking for the last two hours. 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:34.000 Jesus. 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.280 I know like I gotta go now. 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:49.039 Oh no, oh no, tiny tank, but like tiny tank, but yeah, so like all these different sort of exercises for me to do between our sessions, and I will say it helped. 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.679 Awesome, it made a massive difference. 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.360 It made a massive difference. 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.800 Now I will say, thank you, neurodivergence slash career change and aging. 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:07.679 I kind of fell behind on those exercises, and I haven't been to a pelvic floor therapist since we moved out of that state across the country. 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.639 So that was like four years ago that I was doing that. 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.679 Right, but I will say it was highly effective. 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.400 And it's a skill then that you have forever, like you know how to do it. 00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.599 Yeah, and I still will do like what I feel P urgency. 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.599 I will do that breathing exercise, kego, kegel, kegel breathing exercise. 00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.320 Oh wow, and it does help. 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.679 A doctor that knows what they're doing, right? 00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:35.840 Or pelvic floor therapist that knows what they're doing. 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:36.320 That's awesome. 00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:43.440 So that was pretty that that was yeah, that's basically all I've that's really cool. 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.039 Thank you for telling us about that. 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.440 Because I literally, when I hear pelvic floor therapy, I think of like lifting weights with your genitals. 00:39:51.519 --> 00:40:00.559 Like, I don't know what no, so having a stranger massage you on the inside for money, but not like that. 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:01.519 Not like that. 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.199 It's covered by insurance. 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:18.000 Um, are is there anything other than like that's that's the big one, right? 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:19.519 Is the pelvic floor therapy? 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:23.199 Did you have any other like any other things that help with peeing yourself? 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:25.039 Pre-game pee, baby. 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:26.159 Pre-game pee. 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:26.719 That's right. 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:27.440 That's right. 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.840 Just like just the just in case pee. 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:31.280 Just

in case pee. 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.199 Like my friend used to say, like, don't break the seal. 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.519 That's what we used to break in college when we went out bar hopping. 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:40.480 Don't break the seal. 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:41.679 Don't break the seal. 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:43.840 I guess then you have to go all the time. 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:44.480 Yep. 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.440 Um, but yeah, no, it's not, it's not the same. 00:40:47.679 --> 00:41:01.920 Um, I I bet uh we we have uh we haven't talked about um bitch and books or articles about this in a while, but I'm sure there is like stuff available on the internet. 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.559 Um, I I'll give another shout-out for Unlock Your Menopause Type by Heather Hirsch, Dr. 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:07.440 Heather Hirsch. 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:14.960 Um, she I I if you have if you're new to our podcast, I was the director for her for her audiobook. 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:27.920 And um some wonderful uh producers who knew that I was very outspoken about menopause perimenopause, uh, were like, hey, you know, like um actually, no, this is how it happened. 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:29.519 Go back, go back, go back. 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:36.000 Um, it was offered to a friend who said, you know, who has gone through this is Marnie. 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:36.960 You should talk to Marnie. 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:47.199 And so um they offered me the book and then came back and said, Well, actually, the author wants to read it herself, but would you direct it? 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:48.159 Amazing. 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:52.400 And I was like, Yeah, well, and so I had the best time with her. 00:41:52.800 --> 00:42:04.239 It was like three or four days, and she read through all of her stories about it, and she's been a menopause specialist for like 10 years and just started going through it herself. 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:10.559 Um, and so like Oprah's like special uh on menopause and perimenopause, like the big M. 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.199 And it was like four famous people and this other woman, and she's the other woman. 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:35.679 Um, and now she's getting famous in her own right because she's trying to get um doctors to really step up in menopause and like really train them to know what to do in menopause because other than other than specialists, doctors get absolutely zero training, like zero. 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.199 That's so fucked up. 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.800 It's so fucked up because like you know, it there's a lot of money in making babies, right? 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:55.920 But like but after you are past the age that you're making babies, like it there people are just now starting to realize that we have purchasing power and there's a lot of us. 00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:16.400 Yeah, yeah, and that half of the population at half their lifespan, basically, is gonna start going through this and uh they need not only do they need help, but they need um to have uh they have uh disposable income to do something about it. 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:28.880 So if you come up with something that is useful for the fully half of the population born with ovaries that are going to go through this, then then you you've got a built-in audience. 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:31.119 Yeah. 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.960 So definitely check out Unlock Your Metopause Type. 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:36.320 She has a second book too. 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:44.320 Um, but if you know of any books, you want to recommend any books, maybe we could have a uh bitch and books uh book club or something like that. 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.559 Yes, yes, that is hot ease. 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.400 That is something that we would like to be starting, so stay tuned. 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:51.280 Yeah, absolutely. 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:52.800 The bitch and book club. 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.280 Yeah. 00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.639 Do you have anything else to say about this, or should we thank John Detti? 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