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00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.519 Yep, it was absolutely terrible. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:53.199 And they don't go they even at the start of the film, they say, Oh, he was just a guy who sat at a desk basically for the last 10 years. 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.199 So they don't even say he's got field experience, they were just that incompetent. 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:01.360 He literally was it was sort of hiding behind a hedge that was dead. 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:01.920 Yeah. 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:03.920 That was walking through a field. 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:04.480 Yeah. 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.120 Uh and then managed to steal a car. 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.199 It was that that that just annoyed me a bit. 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.480 And then also when they sort of uh spoilers coming. 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.319 So if you've not seen it, don't you know? 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.279 They drive a car off a cliff and then hide behind a rock. 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:19.759 But while everyone's still there, then sneak away. 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:25.120 And you're like, they would hear you, they would they're gonna do a sweep of the area, sh no, no. 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.519 So there were lots of little bits like that that frustrated me. 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.959 Uh sort of I'm not sure what Colin First's character was. 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:44.000 No, I I would say of everything, he is the character who I think the film probably needed to spend another 10 minutes sort of on. 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:48.800 Because, again, spoilers at this point, in the end, he sort of just gives up. 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:49.600 Yes, he does. 00:05:49.759 --> 00:06:00.720 He just goes, he yeah, they they they arrive at a TV studio to tell the world about aliens, and he spent the entire day, uh like 48 hours chasing them, basically. 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:08.800 And he finally catches them at the end, and admittedly, at this point, Emily Blunt sort of has alien powers. 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.560 Yes, yeah. 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:16.560 And it's a little bit like, oh, like he can't stop her, but he doesn't really try. 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:21.120 And his second in command essentially goes, Well, why aren't you trying? 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.199 and leaves with all of his soldiers. 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:41.600 It's it's it does feel, and in fact, funnily enough, I was talking about this with another critic, and we we were talking, we were saying it how that ending feels like such a cop-out, except for the fact that then you get the disclosure, and I just had full-body chills watching it. 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:48.319 You know, like when the journalists are like so absorbed by the footage and sharing it with the world. 00:06:48.560 --> 00:07:03.759 And I I was like, I don't think another director could do certainly sorry, uh, other directors could do this, but that was for me was like Vintage Spielberg, the man who can make people watching monitors

into one of the most riveting things I've seen in cinema in ages. 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:12.560 It does kind of bypass the fact that there would be a shitload more skepticism nowadays than was displayed when the disclosure happens. 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:22.000 Oh, I mean, yeah, but I I forgive the film for that because, you know, at the end of the day, it just it for narrative efficiency, it needs the film. 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:23.199 The film needs to end. 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.879 Like we couldn't just have someone come up and say, well, what if it was AI or all that stuff? 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.879 The film is there to do, you know, aliens are real, just accept it. 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:32.160 Um, we move past it. 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:33.680 Like it that doesn't bother me. 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:38.560 Yeah, I was slightly disappointed we didn't get a little bit more of the sort of aftermath of that. 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.360 So, so how does humanity now deal with it? 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:43.680 But it just leaves that up to you, I suppose. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:59.120 Yeah, uh I I agree, and equally as well, I thought the design on the alien, who you do see, like sorry again, spoilers, they they wheel an alien in, it turns out, is been common Domingo's friend the whole time. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:08.879 Um, he basically has a chat with Emily Blunt, and then Emily Blunt goes to tell the world what the alien told her, and we don't find out what what uh what the alien said. 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:09.759 The film does credits. 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:14.000 No, no, the alien also came out sort of in a wheelchair wrapped in bubbles, bubble wraps. 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:14.560 Yes, he said. 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.120 Yes, in a in a weird shower curtain. 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:17.759 Yeah. 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:24.160 Which was slightly odd, because again, that's not explained why it needs to be in this weird sort of cryochamber type plastic thing. 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:24.399 No. 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:25.920 And then suddenly it opened up. 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:29.439 And also it was very large compared to the aliens we saw in the footage. 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.439 So were they like teenagers? 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.440 Were they is that why they kept crashing everywhere? 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.120 Because they were joy-riding teenagers? 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:49.600 Like like I j I always think with any alien thing, and this isn't just a disclosure day thing, I always think with any sort of alien thing, it's like they've traveled light years across space, but they can't cope with flying on Earth and they crash. 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:53.039 Like, I I it seems unlikely. 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:54.559 No, agreed. 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:57.360 But again, I I just didn't care. 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:58.159 I'll be honest with you. 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:03.679 Like that stuff's more of a gripe with sort of the the

sort of alien uh conspiracy stuff. 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:05.440 It's like, but why would they crash? 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:08.000 I did my I'm I'm such a pedant. 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:13.120 I did say when we left, I was like, why were the aliens like two foot tall when we saw them with like Nixon and stuff? 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.200 And like, why is that one like eight foot tall? 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:15.840 Yeah. 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:22.320 Yeah, it's like yes, and you know, I do think this has turned out to be quite divide. 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.320 Like, it's been a little bit divisive with critics. 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.240 I've seen everything between two and four. 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.080 I think four is probably a little charitable, to be completely honest. 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:35.519 I think it's fun and it's original and it's you know, Spielberg doing a Spielberg y film. 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.519 I just I think the I think he needed to be served with a better script. 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.559 I think that would have would have helped. 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:51.679 Um it's an okay opening weekend, but it's gonna it's gonna have to stick around to hit 300 million, which it needs to do to to be to sort of break even. 00:09:51.759 --> 00:10:01.120 So I mean, and is it realistically when we've got I mean we'll talk about it in a bit, you've got Toy Story 4, sorry, Toy Story 5 coming out like in a few days. 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.360 Like I I have my doubts. 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:04.240 Who knows though? 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:05.039 Like, um, you know. 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.279 Hopefully it can stick around, hopefully it can make some money. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.120 I mean, he's he's pretty reliable, isn't he? 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:14.399 At the international box office, he is still a draw, so it'll probably do okay internationally. 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:21.200 Um yeah, I just I'd have either liked more action or more aliens, I think. 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:22.799 I I agree. 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.840 I've not actually is it it's David Coke who wrote it, isn't it? 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:32.320 And yeah, yeah, like it's so it's I mean he wrote Dial of Destiny and Jurassic Park, or Jurassic World Rebirth recently. 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:36.000 And like, you know, he's not a he's not a vintage screenwriter for me. 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:36.559 I'm sorry. 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:43.919 I know he's worked with uh I know he did like, did he do the initial um Jurassic Park and like all that stuff with Spielberg back in the day? 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.799 I think he's gone slightly off the boil in recent years. 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:48.480 But yeah, I I I would agree. 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:55.279 Like, I think I think the thing with it is, because uh like I saw it with friend of the podcast, uh Clarice Locke. 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.120 And she just loved, like, she loved it. 00:10:57.200 -->

00:10:58.159 She thought it was great. 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.120 Like, I don't know, it's very difficult to. 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.840 I think Steven Spielberg just does a magic to him. 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.519 But and maybe it is that critics just like you know, are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that they won't give other filmmakers. 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.679 But I thought it was pretty I I really enjoyed it. 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:12.879 I had a lot of fun. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:13.360 Good. 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:17.360 And I I mean I got to see the Odyssey trailer while I was there, which made me quite excited. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.960 Um so yeah, that was uh that was good. 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.000 I saw another trailer, but uh the other trailers I've forgotten what other trailers are. 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.600 Oh, I saw the Toy Story 5 trailer. 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:26.480 Of course you do. 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:34.240 Um we'll be talking about the Odyssey in a bit, because that has been uh that's it since a fun a fun morning. 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:36.559 A very fun morning, don't we? 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:37.120 Right. 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.480 Let's finish off let's finish off the the current films we've seen, chat. 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:47.039 So Odyssey, the box office behemoth that is still going and is is about to cross 300 million at the box office. 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.440 It's about to get where Disclosure Day needs to. 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.840 Um but it didn't need to get that far because it only cost a million pounds. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.919 Although a million dollars. 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:07.759 Although there's been a lot of discourse around um should the people working on it have been paid more uh with its subsequent um You're a filmmaker. 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:09.600 You've made films. 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:18.960 I and I'm gonna sound like a you know, maybe I've been late-stage capitalist pilled here, but like, you know, you see um what's her face? 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.480 Indy uh Navarrett, who plays, who played Nikki. 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:23.200 She only got 20. 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:25.200 Again, these are all like rumoured figures. 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:28.080 She apparently only got 20,$20,000 for a pairing it. 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.200 The production designer, I think, got$6,000 for a pairing. 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:32.320 Yes, around that line. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.720 They joined a very, very small movie. 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:37.919 Like, like genuinely. 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:48.559 Curry Baker Barker had no idea that this was going to sell for$15 million to working title in the first place, and no idea that it was going to go on and make this much of the box, obviously. 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:55.440 What I would say is, you know, in terms of India, you've got to blame her agent. 00:12:55.600 --> 00:13:02.639 Like either they just point blank said, look, we're not offering points, or the agent never asked for any. 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:09.279 Because it's a fairly standard thing for an actor at least to to ask for a a cut of the back end. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:20.159 So either they didn't think it was gonna make any money because most indie movies don't, so they didn't bother putting it in, or they asked for it to be in and the team said no, which seems unlikely. 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:29.840 Um so yeah, I don't I I don't know which way uh and again the same with the the same with the all the HODs and people. 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:37.039 Like it is sort of kind of standard to have an a bonus structure or a amount on the back end. 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.919 They obviously signed up without that in their contracts. 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:50.720 Should he maybe if he's got a windfall, should he maybe say, Well, actually, no, I've got a windfall here, I'm gonna reward the crew that came on the film. 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:52.159 That's kind of up to him. 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.720 But I it is surprising that those things weren't already in in the contracts. 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:02.000 Because you can have things like if it, you know, if we set if it makes this much money, everyone gets this bonus. 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:09.120 It doesn't have to be a percentage, because people get people like, oh, can he like percentages are difficult because it ends up being like 0.1%, and then you're like, well, what's the point? 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:10.159 It's probably gonna make nothing. 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:18.480 Um because you can't give everyone 1%, because 1% is a lot when you times it by sort of 50 people that are working on the film. 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:30.559 So well, I I don't have the exact quote to hand, but I know he has said that like he wishes he could have paid people more, but he's like the people who are getting the first cut of that money are the people who took on the financial burden. 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.480 And I don't know, again, I do I don't know how they finance this movie. 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:39.120 Like$750,000 is not nothing for you know an independent film. 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:48.080 It's not a huge, like again, it's not silly money, but it's it's not certainly bigger than some of the budgets, you know, um you see at films that come to Manchester Film Festival. 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:58.000 But I imagine there'll be people asking, right, well, I put in, you know, a couple, like maybe$100,000, but I am expecting my cut. 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:02.879 And, you know, there'll be the studio, like there'll be, you know, marketer, marketing, all of that. 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:03.679 And again, I'm not gonna be able to do that. 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.200 You're gonna say 50% of that$300 million goes to the cinemas. 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:08.080 Yep. 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:14.080 At least 50% of what's left then goes to

working title. 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:26.799 You've then got to take off, but that's actually you haven't taken off working titles marketing, and they will have spent quite a lot marketing, and they will probably spend quite a lot more marketing because they may well do an Oscar campaign for it. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.039 So, you know, there's a lot of expenses to come out of it. 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:38.720 Like you say, your finances and your other people have got to take the money, and then finally you start looking at at bonuses. 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:48.480 It's not like unless you've literally got lines in the contract that are if it hits this box office milestone, you get this much, then then it it it is it does become difficult. 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.960 So I don't know the ins and outs of it, but everyone knew what they were getting into when they got into it. 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.320 Plenty of people work on indie films, and indie films make absolutely no money. 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.279 Like no one's asking them to give their fees back if it makes no money. 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:06.080 So I think it is I think the crew should be compensated if the film does well. 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:12.799 Um, I mean, the the lead actress, she's she's gonna get bigger things now. 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:18.879 So you know, that's kind of her reward for it if she doesn't get anything else financially from this film. 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:21.120 Her next job is gonna pay a lot better. 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:26.320 Focus Features have said they're gonna put her forward for they're gonna do a best supporting actress campaign for her. 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:32.240 Like, you know, regardless of I I personally I don't know whether she'll get nominated, but it doesn't matter. 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:34.080 She is the girl from Obsession. 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:39.120 She is for I mean, I'll I'll ask you what you thought of the movie, but I think she is the best thing in the movie. 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:43.039 Like, I, you know, I think she doesn't have anything to worry about. 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.000 And again, I do know what Curry Barker has said. 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:49.919 Again, you know, this is a harsh, the harsh part of filmmaking. 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.399 The idea is that this is now a call-in card for you. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.679 I was the production, I was the head of production on obsession. 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:57.600 Oh, that is a movie I know. 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.679 I think it's gonna make your next getting your next job a little easier, or you'd hope so. 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.600 Certainly that's the way it's meant to work. 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.200 I don't know if it is. 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:12.960 So, yeah, uh a shame for those who don't feel that they've been adequately compensated, but again, like you say, they knew what they were getting into. 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:14.319 Yeah. 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:15.680 So let's actually talk about the film. 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:17.599 So I saw it a few a couple of weeks ago. 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.519 I enjoyed it, I had a good time with it. 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:24.880 Um, it's not, you know, there's a few bit elements of sort of your proper horror in it. 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.920 Um, there's some bloody moments, uh, things like that. 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:33.200 But it almost plays, I think, because it's got the slightly supernatural element, that's what makes it lean a lot more horror. 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.200 But it is almost like a psychological thriller. 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.599 It's like um single white female or something. 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:38.960 Yeah, no, it's definitely like that. 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:40.720 In in kind of that respect. 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:42.240 She is brilliant in it. 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:47.599 Like if if her performance wasn't as strong as it was, that film would struggle. 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.079 Because I think he's a bit wet. 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:50.720 Yes. 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:51.680 Both bizarre. 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:52.720 Like, because but by the bizarre. 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:53.759 But he is meant to be. 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:55.599 He is meant to be, to be fair. 00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:01.759 Um, but he is a bit because he needs to be kind of a bit naive and a bit wet around the the gills. 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:12.160 Um, but she's so strong and feisty early on, and then the the sort of slight tur the turn when she um becomes obsessed is is really good. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:20.799 And some of the some of the facial expressions, the the weight, her tone of voice when she's delivering certain eyes, I just I thought she was absolutely brilliant in it. 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:22.240 Um, and I really like the ending. 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:23.839 I thought the ending was fantastic. 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:25.359 I I love the ending. 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:30.079 I think my favourite scene in the entire thing is when he wakes up in the night and she's not there. 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:37.200 Um you can see her in the like he's looking around the room and you can't see her in the initial shot, but you can hear her. 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:44.960 And then there's just that little you can just about make out her face, and she is pulling some horrific expressions as she's doing it. 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:46.720 I also I just love the way she moved. 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:48.640 I love the I love everything about that character. 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:57.039 I like how she manages to make Nikki and Wish possess Nikki, if that's the sort of if you what we want to call her, the differences between them. 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:58.559 I just I think it's remarkable. 00:18:58.640 --> 00:18:59.519 I really do. 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:17.039 And I do, I mean, again, spoiler warning, I think that there are two

scenes that will stay with me basically forever now, which is of course the brick scene, which is when Nikki uh uses a brick to smash in her rival, her love rival's face. 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:25.839 Uh, but for me, the scariest scene in it is when he rings the helpline for the uh one with Willow, and he's like, uh, yeah, well, like it worked. 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.359 And the guy's like, Do you want me to undo it? 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:28.400 And he's like, No, yeah. 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:29.920 And he's like, can't. 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:32.319 And then he's like, Do you want to speak to the real Nikki? 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:33.279 And he's like, Whoop. 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:33.839 Horrendous. 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:38.079 And then it's just her screaming, and I yeah, that that was horrible. 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:55.119 Well, the bit the bit for me was when early on, uh, where she's first snogging him, and then real Nikki comes back just briefly, and is just screaming and screaming and screaming away from him, and he's like, What the fuck is going on? 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.759 But then she comes sort of wish Nikki takes over, and um yeah. 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.839 I mean, he obviously has to suspend disbelief quite a lot, but he's got what he wanted. 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:11.920 Like he's just wanting to believe that this is real and it's not the wish thing, that that's just a coincidence. 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.839 Obviously, that didn't work, that would be nonsense. 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:19.519 Like, she just does like me, like something's going on. 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.720 Obviously, his mate's very skeptical. 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.559 And obviously, her behavior then ramps up and up and up. 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:31.759 I think there were people in the cinema with me, there's people behind me in the cinema who were like, just go and get another one. 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:32.640 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.079 Because it takes him quite a while to make to decide to do that. 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.279 Whereas I think I probably would have made that decision a bit sooner. 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:51.680 I agree, but I also think the film does explain it when he wakes up in the night and she real Nikki, she's like, can talk to him for a bit, and he's like, Would being with me be so bad? 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.559 And you he's just such a selfish dick. 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.839 Like at that point, he's well aware of what's happened. 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:04.079 It's only when she kills Sarah, is it Sarah, that you know, he's then like, oh shit, I should probably undo this. 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:07.200 Like Bear is the villain of the movie. 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:08.559 Oh, yeah. 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:10.799 A hundred percent. 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:11.599 Yeah. 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.079 Um he's just a very wet villain. 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:15.599 He is, yes, he is. 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.000 Um essentially an incel though, realistically, isn't he? 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:19.519 He's an incel in plain sight. 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:20.880 Yeah, basically. 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:30.880 Like, um, I've seen Curry Barker come out and say the idea for the film, like, so often with these like monkey paw movies, you know, where you get a wish but the the item warps what you want. 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:36.799 Curry Barker said now, like that guy, uh his his mate just uh wished for a million dollars. 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.519 And sorry, and got a billion dollars. 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:43.039 Like, Bear made an evil wish. 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.759 That, you know, bear took away someone's free will. 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:49.359 It's nothing to do with like the one wish willow being evil. 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:51.599 Yeah, just be careful what you wish for. 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.640 Uh speaking of things that are evil though, I went to see the Backrooms. 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.200 Um, a movie you'd already seen and I believe quite enjoyed. 00:21:59.519 --> 00:21:59.759 I did. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.279 Enjoy it, yeah. 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.640 I I don't know if I don't know if I was less keen. 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:08.799 I definitely think Obsession is the better, more interesting movie of the toe. 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:17.759 Um I think that backrooms make such a massive mistake in that it has, I think, one of the most effective cold openings to a movie ever. 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:30.079 Like, you know, when you say again, spoilers, like the scientist trap, the it opens with a scientist like video camera filming himself trapped in the backrooms, and it is so scary, it's so creepy. 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:35.119 And I was like, oh my god, is it gonna be like this for the whole like 50 minutes, uh, hour 50? 00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:36.880 Because this is gonna be too intense for me. 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:39.279 And the answer is, no, it's not. 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:43.039 No, we're gonna not do any of that really at all again. 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:51.599 Yeah, and then it gets really good again when they go, when he takes uh Qtel Edu4, takes two of his shop assistants. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:23:00.240 He finds the back rooms, takes two of his shop assistants into the back rooms, and that's when it gets really good again, and you're like, oh my god, what is here? 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:01.680 Like, what is this? 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:19.440 And then very quickly, and then it swaps characters and like it puts the brakes on the entire thing to then follow his psychologist who finds the backrooms, and then he's he kidnaps her because he's gone insane, and he explains what he thinks the backrooms is. 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:25.599 And this is all like I'm making I'm sounding a bit glib because I do think everything around it is really effective. 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:31.039 But I was a bit like, oh, we keep on

stopping the scary bit, which is just imagine being lost in here. 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:36.559 Like, I know that's a difficult thing to make into a two-hour nearly two-hour-long movie, but it doesn't need to be two hours. 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:42.559 It could have just should have just been 90 minutes of these like you're lost, and there are things after you. 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:47.519 Uh, that said though, you promised the weirdest horror movie villain of the year. 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.200 And I did not expect you didn't expect that monster. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:55.039 No, I didn't expect a nine-foot-tall pirate. 00:23:55.599 --> 00:24:00.319 Um, which I am horrified to find out wasn't CGI. 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:01.680 Nice. 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.880 Yeah, that is um have you seen Alien Romulus? 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:14.880 So you know the alien human hybrid at the end that uh when she thinks that's the same actor wearing a that pirate costume and like a mask. 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.039 Obviously, like it then enhanced with CGI to make the face move. 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.200 But yes, that's him back. 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:30.720 And I realized when the pirate was walking after the um whatever the psychologist is called, because he's got very unique shaped hips. 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:32.480 And I was like, oh my god, it's him. 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:35.359 He's bat and to terrify me. 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:37.599 Um I I think this is good. 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:39.680 I thought this was a bit more workman-like. 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.720 Like you could see the um James Wan. 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:45.200 Uh, James Wan's, he was a producer on it. 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:47.119 I could, but I was like, yeah, I get where he was. 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.200 He he maybe had notes. 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.000 Um, but yeah, good enough. 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:55.279 Like a three-star for me compared to the four, I'd probably give obsession. 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.759 Yeah, I mean, it's not hung around as much, has it? 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.680 It was very much an early um weekend success. 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:06.799 Um it's still going, but it's not had that longevity that the obsessions had. 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:10.400 Because I don't think you're coming out of it and going, oh my god, you've got to go and see this. 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.039 Well, I think like I did really enjoy it though. 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.720 I I th I'm interested in the sequels. 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:25.119 Um I think they're gonna lean more into the um scientists and what they're up to in looking into the backrooms. 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.799 Um, I liked all the weird faces on people. 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.559 Um I liked to randomly just eating them. 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:34.799 Yep, they're made of food, apparently. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:36.079 They're made of food. 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:38.720 Uh which was odd. 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:46.799 Um but yeah, it was it I I think there's a lot to unpack in it, and I think, like you say, I think there's lots of ways it could have gone. 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.519 And it ends up not going the way you expect it to. 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:57.359 Um because like I say, when he takes the two, there's a really great, quite scary chase scene when he takes the two assistants in with him. 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:04.720 Um but then it sort of just hard cuts to the to a few weeks later. 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:05.440 Yeah. 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:09.200 Uh when his psychiatrist's just sort of trying to figure out where he's gone. 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:13.279 Yeah, and at that point he's comfortable in the backrooms. 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.440 Like he literally says he likes them. 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:26.079 Um I don't think you do yourself any favors, like when you've got like a an evil location like the backrooms, to have uh someone who's happy to be there. 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.279 Or you know, it's it's they've corrupted him though, haven't they? 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:34.400 They've corrupted him and he's become part of the fabric of the backrooms. 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.319 So yeah, I I I suppose. 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:36.960 I don't know. 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.359 I I I I'm interested, like it was a I mean, we're definitely getting a sequel. 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:41.839 So, you know. 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:44.720 So we'll learn more, no doubt. 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.440 DuPlace will hopefully have more to do in the sequel. 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.799 Yes, I imagine he had nothing to do in this film. 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.279 He got to watch TV with his family. 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.039 He did get to watch TV with his family and chat to her at the end a bit. 00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:57.759 Yes. 00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.200 Um, very quickly then. 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.960 Should I talk about the last new movie I've seen? 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:02.480 Oh, wait, no, sorry, I've seen two. 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.640 I've I've seen two, I've got two more movies, but I'll do them both very quickly. 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:15.119 So I saw uh Office Romance, which is uh the new movie out on Netflix uh with Jennifer Lopez and Brett Goldstein. 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:16.880 He plays her lawyer. 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:21.599 Uh she's the CEO of an airline, and basically it's a rom-com. 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.920 They fall in love, but they can't be together because they're employee and boss. 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.440 Um it is incredibly charming. 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.160 Like, I am not a big rom com guy. 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.519 Uh I was just, I really like JLo. 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:41.359 I like I think she's I think she's underrated as an actor, and she's fantastic in this. 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.599 I think Brett Goldstein is just very funny. 00:27:43.759 -->

00:27:49.519 Like, he is doing Roy Kent to an extent, like, but it's it works. 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:50.799 Like it's charming enough. 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:55.039 It's the type of thing you've put on a Friday night, you're not gonna be annoyed you watched it. 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.799 Like streaming fodder, perfectly good fun. 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.640 Good stuff. 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.680 And finally, Masters of the Universe, the new He-Man movie. 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.440 And I expected to hate this, I'll be completely honest. 00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:15.920 It felt like it was master, you know, Mattel trying to get in on the Barbie trend of like, oh, we've got a top popular toy. 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:17.119 Let's make a movie about that. 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.200 You know Mattel make Barbie. 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:20.079 Did they? 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.279 Oh, well, I'm in fact, in that I thought it was Hasbro. 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.839 In that case, then it's Mattel maybe perhaps going, well, we need one for the boys now. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.680 Um, regardless, absolute like I I love this. 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:35.200 I watched this on the same day I watched Backrooms and I thought it was remarkable. 00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.480 Like, just really funny, really camp, really self-aware. 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.359 It's very much in the same vein as the Lego movie. 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:46.880 You know, like you have super low expectations and it knocks it out of the park. 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.759 Um, the best thing in it, and this is a very rare thing for me to say, Jared Leto. 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.920 Right, well, there you go. 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.799 As uh unrecognizably a skeletal, though. 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:01.839 And 100% not on set, which I think made all the other actors very happy. 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:02.160 Yes. 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.279 In my opinion, because uh to say otherwise would be libeless. 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.599 Uh, but no, he is very, very funny in this. 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:08.799 He's a good skeletal. 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.799 Um, yeah, and it's not just me being a geek who liked it. 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:14.240 Emily also liked it. 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:15.039 So there you go. 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:19.920 I think the problem with it I have with it is I'm probably I'm not gonna see at the cinema, I may watch it when it comes out on stream or something. 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.319 But I who who's it for? 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.400 Like, who is in the audience? 00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.400 Because I am the age where I grew up with He-Man. 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.039 Like, He-Man was a big part of my childhood. 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:34.079 But I'm now 44, so well, I'm not 45. 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.440 Uh, I have no desire to go and see it at the cinema. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:42.400 Maybe if I had 10-year-old boys, I'd be up for taking them to see it. 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:47.039 But I don't think the younger kids are that bothered by it because they've not grown up sort of with it. 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:56.160 So it would be a dad taking his kids, I suppose, to relive his childhood and show them, hope they got the enjoyment he did out of it. 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.799 Um, or just grown men who haven't grown up going to see it. 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:16.799 Well, I would say that when I went to the theatre, it was a 50-50 split between uh people your age taking their sons to go see it, and people my age who looked exactly like me going to see it by themselves. 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:28.480 Um, and a group of boys who clearly been given some pocket money to go watch something in the cinema because and sat at the back talking throughout it until uh one brave customer stood up and told them to be quiet. 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.920 Um, yeah, no, I mean that's why it's made 87 million, isn't it? 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:32.799 Let's be completely honest. 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:33.200 Like it's not. 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.880 There's not a big enough market for it, basically. 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:35.359 No. 00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:40.960 It's and I don't think like I would say that I'm the target demographic for this. 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:42.640 Like I had He-Man toys growing up. 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.559 I do not like He-Man enough to go. 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.880 Um, like this was something I was quite content to wait to watch on streaming. 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.880 And it was only word of mouth that you know convinced me, oh, you should go see this. 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.680 Uh, because I missed the press screening and I was like, I don't want to pay to see a He-Man movie in 2026. 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.680 But the word of mouth was so strong on it, I was like, yeah, I'll go. 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.559 And I think it's a shame that it's not done well because I know that the director had plans for a sequel. 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.480 I just I just don't think it's gonna happen. 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:14.960 Um yeah, I just I don't think enough people care about He-Man at this point. 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.720 No, I mean there's been a She-Ra series on Netflix, hasn't there? 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:26.319 Like they've they've sort of have resurrected it slightly, but uh yeah, I just don't know if the younger generation are into He-Man enough for it to work. 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:34.480 No, and I mean I mean Netflix also did a He-Man series, like I think it's done two in the last five years, and both of them have been cancelled. 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.480 I just again, who cares about He-Mar? 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:38.720 Well, this film is with Netflix for a while. 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.559 It's been with Sony, it's been net with Netflix, it's been with quite a few studios. 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:49.839 Like it's been in

development for a long, long time, and it's finally ended up with uh MGM um slash Amazon. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:32:00.799 So, you know, it's it is one of those films where it's been knocking around a while, gone through a lot of directors, um, and then finally, you know, finally ended up where it's ended up. 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:09.839 So I you know, it's I'm not sad to see it struggling at the box office, to be honest, because I just don't think we need these film films anymore. 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:16.559 I think we need Hollywood to learn lessons that people are up for original uh storytelling. 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:25.440 What we don't need them to learn is that everyone loves original horror, so we just get an absolute glut slew of horror movies. 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.720 Floppy done horror movies over the next two years, but that probably is what will happen. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.160 Well, I mean, yeah, 100%. 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.000 I mean, like, what is it? 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:42.559 The lessons learned from the Minecraft of Mario were that people like video game movies now, so we're gonna get Minecraft and then we're gonna get Mario 2 and still is the same. 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:44.240 Which has now crossed a billion. 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:44.640 Yeah. 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:45.519 Oh, how's that? 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.480 Mario Galaxy has now crossed the billmark. 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.000 Well done, Mario. 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:50.799 Congratulations. 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.920 I'm very surprised you didn't do that in the first two weeks, to be completely honest. 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.559 Yeah, just says how says that you weren't great because you didn't do it in the like in the first two weeks. 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.440 I mean, we have got another couple of billion dollar movies coming up soon. 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.160 This weekend will be the first of them. 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:05.839 We have Toy Story 5. 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:06.240 Yeah. 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.000 I've already got my tickets booked to go see them on Friday afternoon. 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:11.200 Have you? 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:12.160 Are you excited? 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.920 Because the yes, the the reviews have been positive. 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:17.039 I am excited. 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:23.839 It looks to me more like the Toy Story movie we wanted when Toy Story 4 came out. 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:28.400 I was I personally was a bit disappointed with Toy Story 4. 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.160 I think it's hard because the first three are so good. 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.759 Like the first three are like a perfect trilogy. 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.240 So anything then coming out after that is going to struggle. 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:46.480 I just think the storyline of Yeah, I just think the storyline was not the best. 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:53.119 Uh, and they also didn't treat Buzz Lightyear very

well, suddenly made him thick and only following his button, which I think I've talked about before. 00:33:53.359 --> 00:34:08.159 Um so yeah, but this one, we're back predominantly what looks like in a child's bedroom with the toys dealing with a new toy arriving that there is gonna take uh Bonnie's affection away from them. 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.960 So we're back to the sort of original arc of um Toy Story 1, really. 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.320 Um and we've got Forky with his crazy quips. 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.199 You do you are such a Forky fan. 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.800 Like I The best thing that came out of Toy Story 4 was Forky. 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:29.360 And if you've not seen Forky Asks a Question on Disney Plus, you need to go and watch Forky Asks a Question on Disney Plus. 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.480 You are evangelical about Forky Asks a Question. 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.480 This is like the fifth time I think you've recommended it at all. 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:35.519 Have you watched it yet? 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:36.159 No, I've not. 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.519 They're like four minutes long each. 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:46.239 So I will say, I like it has I think it's got 92, uh 92% critic score on Rotten Tomatoes. 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.920 Um it is, um, I know quite a few people who've seen it already and said it's really like it's just good. 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.039 Like it's just, it's undeniably just just just good. 00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:05.360 Like it's except for Lone Dissenting Voice, Clarice Lockery, who gave it two stars in her independent review and basically said, it's a soulless cash grab. 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:18.960 Um I think the problem with it is, I think the problem is you do just think it's because the first this the fourth one felt like a cash grab, because the first three were so good and tied everything up so nicely that it's like, well, why are we back here? 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.320 And you're like, well, we're back here because this will make us a billion dollars. 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:31.119 I think it can be a cash grab because Disney will just be like, we're making a fifth one, we want the cash, it's gonna make cash. 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:37.760 But then the filmmakers involved can still care deeply about the characters and the story, and it can still be really, really good. 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:52.239 I think I think it has the ability to be a cash grab and be good at the same time, unlike uh the live action Moana, which will just be a cash grab, and I don't know who's gonna go and watch it, and I hope it dies a death. 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.639 Because every time I see a trailer for it, it looks worse. 00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:02.800 So I thought that the Moana Toe was the worst thing that Disney had ever made. 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:11.599 Like, because I you could you could see literally where they'd sewn the episode because it was meant to be a Disney Plus series, and they decided hang on a minute, there's essentially a potentially a billion dollars. 00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:16.000 But Biger came back and Big Bob went, there's cash on the table here, let's take it. 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:17.519 Yep, exactly. 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:32.719 So, and you know, it did well, but I will say that the the first Moana is exceptional, like such a good movie, like great songs, great characters, really, really um, really, really good in animation with an impeccable story. 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.000 And this the second one is a turd, like it's an actual turd. 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.559 The second one still did over a billion at the box office. 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:46.159 Yeah, I know, and I know that, and I will say I've been watching the Junkit stuff that and uh Andrew Stanton, is it the director on this? 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.800 Um yeah, Andrew Stanton, the director. 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.920 He does seem to have something to say with this movie. 00:36:52.000 --> 00:37:00.639 Like he's been thinking about, you know, oh, um, like screen time with his kids and stuff like that, and like what it means. 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.480 Um, you know, it came out 10 years ago. 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:03.760 Who's going to see it? 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.280 It came out 10 years ago. 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.800 I mean, no, sorry, I'm talking about Toy Story 5, not Toy Story 5, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:21.679 I do not I watched the trailer for the Moana remake, and as I went to the when I went to the cinema the other day, there was a stand-in of uh Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and I was like, this has just been stripped of all its charm. 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.960 Like, you know, like this does not look good. 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.519 Yeah, I don't get who you're for it. 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:28.480 I don't get it. 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:44.079 Like my kids are now I went with my kids to watch the first Moana when they were uh five and well, six and four, and now they're 16 and 14, they're not going to want to go and watch a live-action Moana. 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:45.599 But then they're also not old. 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.960 Even if they were even if they were 12 and 10 when we went to see the Moana the first time, they'd now be 22 and 20. 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:53.280 Yeah. 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.079 So they're not old enough to go, oh, I remember this from our childhood. 00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:01.679 Let's take our kids, like we would have been with, say, Aladdin or Little Mermaid. 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:08.480 Um, and then so I just yeah, I just don't, I don't get I don't get who it's for and it looks terrible. 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:16.880 But yeah, Toy Story, like you say, I think the the the director of Toy Story 5 and the the the people behind Toy Story 5 care about the story they're telling. 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:18.480 Yes, that much is true.

00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:27.119 And I I always have faith in Pic Tab, because even their worst films, there's always something to like in them, with the exception of Lightyear, which might be the worst thing they've ever made. 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.519 Lightyear was a travesty. 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:30.960 Yes, I agreed. 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.760 Lightyear was an absolute disgrace of a film. 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:34.320 Yeah. 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.840 I should have loved Lightyear, and I absolutely loathed it. 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.920 Lightyear in I th I stand by Lightyear in theory is a is an interesting idea. 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:44.400 Yes. 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.800 But God almighty did they butcher it. 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:47.840 It's terrible again. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.639 That is not the film that would have made um Andy love Buzz Lightyear. 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:53.760 No, it is not. 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.159 No, it it definitely isn't. 00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.840 Because no one would love Buzz Lightyear after watching Lightyear. 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.559 Uh no, it was yeah, but it I'd just like to forget that film exists. 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:12.159 Um but yeah, I mean most of the, you know, even the the stuff that ended up going straight to Disney Plus, like Luca, I really enjoyed. 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:12.400 Yeah. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.559 Uh Turning Red, really enjoyed. 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:16.719 Soul was alright. 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.039 Oh no, Soul's gorgeous. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.159 Like Elemental started slow at the box office, but then ended up doing really well. 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.199 You know, they Hoppers was great recently. 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:41.360 Yes, I I in fact uh I saw Hoppers the other day and was I'm really pleased that there is now a generation of animators working in Hollywood who clearly grew up watching anime and are bringing interesting animation techniques to Western animation. 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:47.519 Because I'm like, oh, look, you could that's from uh that's that's something from Dragon Ball, or that's something from this anime series. 00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:50.800 Like, I like that about uh Pixar stuff recently. 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.599 I thought Hoppers was very funny as well, which was good. 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:54.719 Yes, yes, it is. 00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:01.280 Like the uh Dave Franco's evil moth, evil butterfly, uh taking over the mayor, great stuff. 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.199 Um, right, we've got sidetracked. 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:04.559 So Toy Story 5, we've done. 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:05.840 Is it Odyssey time? 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:11.599 It is indeed time for Odyssey, which has become like is it the first time? 00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:16.719 I booked my 70mm IMAX tickets for eight o'clock in the morning on the Friday of release. 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:17.760 Have you actually? 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:19.039

I'm not a mentalist. 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.679 I'm not going at one minute past midnight. 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.079 So I am engaged to a mentalist who would quite. 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.840 I think if I said, should we go at one minute past midnight, she would go. 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:32.239 Oh. 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:34.800 Absolutely nailed on she would. 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:43.679 Yeah, my fiance is the biggest Christopher Nolan fan in the world and has met and interviewed Christopher Nolan and like run a Christopher Nolan podcast. 00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:44.800 She is obsessed. 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.000 She on Monday woke me up at 7 a.m. 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.320 and was like, I have to go to work. 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:58.480 You have to sit on these two laptops and get us tickets to the BFII Max for the opening weekend. 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.880 And I was like, I will do what I can. 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.159 And she was like, No, you have to get us tickets. 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:13.039 So we are going at 4 10 on Sunday the 19th, because I work Saturdays and we couldn't get we couldn't get in for the Saturday. 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:19.360 And Em is also very much like, yeah, but you have to get press tickets. 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:20.800 Like you just have to. 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:25.519 And I was like, but we've already paid like£26 each now to go see it in the BFR. 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:27.199 And she was like, yeah, no, I want to see it twice. 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:27.679 At least. 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:29.440 Yeah, minimum. 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:36.480 But it is already doing incredibly well, just off like just off pre-sales. 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:42.480 Uh I think it's already brought in sort of like God, I'm gonna quickly double chat. 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.960 The Odyssey IMAX sale. 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.800 Yeah, breaking Smashers BFI IMAX records for the in the first day of sale. 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:57.679 Um it's sold 28,000 tickets so far just on the IMAX alone. 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:03.599 And that means this is the UK, this is the BFI IMAX in the UK, it's already made 750,000. 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.239 But it's not even it's not even it's not even out. 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.440 We got the second trailer today. 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:08.320 It's not even out. 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:09.519 Yeah, mad. 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:12.159 Um and that's one screen. 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:14.800 It's going to Yeah. 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:16.880 That's one screen. 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:29.840 I don't know if you follow IMAX on Twitter, but it is very funny to watch because this is going up against Spider-Man, which is out the same, I think maybe the week before, maybe another, maybe two weeks before. 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:34.639 And people have been saying, why aren't you selling Spider-Man IMAX tickets? 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:36.400 Like, why are you only selling Odyssey? 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:41.840 And IMAX is basically replying saying, We're not showing sp we're not showing Spider-Man in IMAX. 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:43.199 Why would we? 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.480 This is this is selling like hotcakes, basically. 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.159 Like we we are s people cannot wait for this movie. 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.400 I think the Spider-Man must be out afterwards. 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:53.519 Is it? 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:55.360 Yeah, it must be out afterwards. 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.920 Just look, unless it's out at a different time in the States. 00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:59.920 Moana is out the week before. 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:01.119 Why is it? 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.920 Well says which no one wants to see. 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.760 Um Spider-Man is out two weeks after. 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:08.960 Why is that? 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.679 Well, it doesn't make a difference because people will still be watching the Odyssey. 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:12.719 You heard it her first. 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:18.079 Yes, and the thing is, Odyssey is the first film ever filmed entirely on IMAX cameras. 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:30.960 Although I was, I did watch a reel on Instagram the other day pointing out that it is shot entirely on IMAX cameras, but they then knew that they would need to, it would need to also fit other formats. 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:38.159 So what you often end you might end up with, because the IMAX formats like that, you'll end up with the center of the frames there. 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:44.880 That's what they need the important information to be in, because that's what everyone will see on every single format they watch it in. 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:45.519 Right, okay. 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.360 Where uh so you end up with maybe quite a lot of dead space and stuff that isn't as important in the rest of the frame. 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:56.400 But I trust that Nolan and his cinematographer will have made it look absolutely amazing in IMAX. 00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.119 I have no doubt that it's gonna look absolutely incredible. 00:43:59.280 --> 00:43:59.679 Like, of course. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.119 Course, it's gonna look incredible. 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:02.880 It's Christopher Nolan, the man doesn't miss. 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.880 No, and I must say, I watched the trailer again today and uh I am excited. 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:14.719 And our patz, he is a he's a he's got that sort of really good period baddie going on. 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:16.480 Yeah, he does. 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:17.360 Yeah, he does. 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:23.199 I mean, like, uh again, love Matt Damon, love Tom Hart, love Ralph Pattinson, love the Peter Nongo. 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.599 Like, I just it's it's gonna be great. 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:26.639 Like, it's gonna be epic. 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:31.280 I know that's a cliche to say, but it just is it is an epic, so it better

be epic. 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:32.480 Yeah, very true. 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:33.599 Very true. 00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:35.840 Um I yes. 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:37.119 I I can't wait. 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.360 Is it going to get him his second Oscar? 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:40.159 No. 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:42.960 Don't be greedy. 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:44.239 He's got he's got a lot of. 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.039 Sorry, he's already had he has already had two, sorry. 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:48.719 Yeah, he's not having another. 00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:54.400 He's he's Oppenheimer, I mean, uh like will it be better than Oppenheimer? 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.039 Will it be, you know, will it be better than Interstellar? 00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:58.800 Will it be better than Inception? 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.440 I think these are all I don't care, to be honest. 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.599 Like, I just I'm gonna take this as it is. 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:12.400 I think uh even when Christopher Nolan makes even the worst Christopher Nolan movie, which as we all know is Tenor, like I it is still good. 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:13.440 Like, it's still great. 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:14.400 Tenant was fun. 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:20.480 I'd like to uh Tenant, again, it was pretty much it was just a non-stop actioner. 00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:20.960 Yes. 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:27.760 It was the worst bit of tenant was when they had to then explain everything in the army training camp and you got like 10 minutes of them just explaining what was going on. 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.760 Yeah, temporal, I do not need to know the mechanics of a temporal pincer movement. 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:32.880 Thank you very much, Christopher. 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.360 Like it was just get on with it and I'll figure out. 00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.639 I'm sure we've said this before, but I'm can I'm convinced that was his his audition for Bond. 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:42.400 That was him going, like, I could do it. 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.599 Insane that he would he'll probably never get a crack at Bond would be. 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:46.639 No, he won't. 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:54.000 He's much like Steven Spielberg, who we started talking the podcast with, dreamt of it all his life and never got the opportunity. 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:54.880 Which is mad. 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.280 Why wouldn't you give these people a chance at these things? 00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.360 It was because of the broccoli's, wasn't it? 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:08.320 Like the broccoli's just gone now, so maybe, you know, Amazon like money, so um Nolan and Bond would be ludicrous. 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.800 Yeah, but he have you heard what he wanted to do with Bond? 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:18.559 He had like a really, really solid concept for it, which the broccoli were like, no, we can't do that. 00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:23.920 And I see why, because he wanted to he wanted to make it a

period piece set in the 60s. 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:24.719 Right. 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.440 And I can see why Amazon would be like, no, it has to be contemporary. 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:38.000 Like, I do understand from uh like from a franchise point of view why you'd want it to be something set in the noun. 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:45.599 Yeah, but as we've seen with the DCU, two things can live together at the same time in different timelines. 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:46.480 That is very true. 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:57.199 I can love our Pats Batman, and our Matt Reeves can make uh Batman the Batman 2, yet we can still have the James Gunn Cinematic Universe version of Batman as well. 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.159 Yes, when they eventually get round to casting him. 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:02.639 When they eventually get round to casting him. 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.400 Um oh that's another so Supergirl, are you excited for Supergirl? 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:14.239 Actually, obligated right now to say yes, because I haven't seen Supergirl and I'm waiting to find out whether I get uh I get press tickets. 00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:15.679 I actually am looking forward to Supergirl. 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.679 It's adapting one of my favourite comics. 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.679 Um I really like Millie Elcock. 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:20.639 I think she's great. 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:26.880 I think the trailers look really fun, and it's got that Guardians of the Galaxy style edge to it. 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:40.800 That um it's clearly, I know James Gunn's not directing it, but it's the guy, I think it's the cinematographer from Guardians who's what who's directing it, and I I think he's definitely trying to bring that sort of punky aesthetic to it. 00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.840 And I'll be completely honest, I'm just a sucker for crypto. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.719 Like anytime crypto's on screen, I'm like, yeah. 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:47.840 Love that dog. 00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:48.719 It'll be interesting. 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.679 I'm assuming reviews will start dropping next week, so that will be interesting. 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.639 I mean, I must say, my daughters are interested in it from the trailer. 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:59.679 Uh, they're not normally interested in any superhero type fair, but they're interested in it from the trailer. 00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:06.960 But I must also say I saw a poster the other day on a bus stop, and flipping hell, that is one ugly poster. 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.960 I haven't seen the poster, but I can imagine. 00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.119 It's too bright blue. 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.920 It looked cheesy as hell. 00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:18.639 I don't know what's happening with posters at the moment. 00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:19.920 They're just very ugly. 00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:21.599 Yeah, it wasn't a good one. 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:22.880 It wasn't a good one. 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:24.880 But you know, I I will go and see it. 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:25.679 There's no doubt about it. 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:26.400 I'll go and see it. 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:27.039 Will it? 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.920 It'll be interesting to see what happens when the critical reviews drop. 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.960 And it'll be interesting to see how it fares at the box office. 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:33.519 Yes. 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:40.000 I so I know Superman did what, 650, maybe 675 off the top of my head. 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:41.599 No, no, not a bill. 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:49.840 Not a bill, but equally decent to j well enough to justify the investment in the DCU. 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.320 I think they'll be hoping with this. 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.679 I think it probably tops that around 300, 400, and they'd be happy with that. 00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.920 I think they'd be happy with 400. 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:01.920 Yeah, let me let's see if it's. 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:05.039 I mean, Mandalorian and Grogu's absolutely tanked. 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.159 Yeah, well, again, we've spoken about this, haven't we? 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.079 We, you know, like you've made a ticket. 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:18.079 Yeah, so apparently according to um Wikipedia, the budget for Supergirl, 170 mil. 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.920 So if it did 400, I think they'd be quite happy. 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:22.719 Wow. 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:24.239 It has to do 400. 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:25.840 Yeah, basically. 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:27.920 Wow, that's a mad budget. 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:29.679 Bigger than I expected. 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.039 I would have thought about 100. 00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:31.440 Yeah. 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.159 I guess um Jason Momoa doesn't come cheap. 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:34.800 No. 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:41.599 He's the only I know Sue I know David Corranswet's in it, but he's not a huge name, is he? 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.639 So I'd imagine it's gotta be Momoa who's uh taking home a healthy chunk of that. 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.239 Yeah, I mean it's I I think it's I I think that that budget really hampers it. 00:49:52.320 --> 00:50:01.280 I think if he'd made it for I think if he'd made it for 100 mil and it just needed to do 200, 250 to to sort of break even, you'd be alright. 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.559 But uh uh 175 it's needing to push 400. 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.199 I think it may struggle. 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:12.880 So deadline have repor d deadline have reported that it needs 315 to break even. 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:14.719 Yes. 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.480 So uh I could see it doing three I think I could see it doing 400. 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.519 Well we will have to see. 00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.599 We will it'll have some of my money because I think I'll take my daughters to see it. 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:28.800 Well that's something. 00:50:29.599 -->

00:50:30.480 It just looks fun. 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.519 Yeah, it looks like a good romp. 00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:37.199 Like that's all I basically want from s from uh these types of movies, to be completely honest. 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:38.000 Yeah. 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:39.679 Just a bit. 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:47.679 Like, don't I think the good thing with Gunn and the way he's moving with the the sort of DC is it doesn't take itself too seriously. 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:48.480 Yeah. 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:49.920 Oh 100% not. 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:51.599 He's like apart from Clayface. 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.119 The trailer for Clayface actually looks quite good. 00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:01.440 Yeah, but that's far more in line with what I was expecting sort of like the budget to be on these types of movies. 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:03.840 Like, I think that's super cheap. 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.199 Like, what is it? 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:06.159 I'm gonna have a quick look. 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:10.800 But that looks more like a proper dark um DC type thing. 00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:12.400 Yes, it definitely does. 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.639 And of course, filmed in Stockport. 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:15.440 Was it really? 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:16.880 How on earth did I not know that? 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:18.000 Did you not know that? 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.599 Yeah, it was, you know, what's the fit what's the fancy cinema called in Stockport? 00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.119 Um the shh my word, that's gonna annoy me. 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.199 How do I not know where what the fancy cinema called? 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:28.800 It's time for everyone to that's annoying. 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.199 It was filmed in Liverpool. 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:31.840 Plaza. 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:32.880 The plaza. 00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:35.760 The plaza in in uh Stockport. 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:36.559 Wow. 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:37.599 That's amazing. 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:46.639 And I imagine that that when that comes out much later this year, in October, it's gonna do very well because it cost$40 million to make. 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:48.079 Yes, that's what you need. 00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.039 Yeah, 100%. 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:55.599 But again, it's it's uh it'll be it'll be a 15 minimum, I would have thought, and it's leaning into the older side of DC. 00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.880 And I think that's always that's the part of DC I've always enjoyed. 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:05.199 I've always sort of liked the DC films more than the Marvel films because they're a bit more grown up and a bit more dark. 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.000 And I mean, Nolan did three of them. 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.880 Yeah, that that that does help, doesn't it? 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:16.159 Um and then obviously Snyder kind of ruined everything. 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:22.400 Yeah, by taking completely the wrong lessons from Nolan and thinking dark for the sake of dark was good. 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.320 And no, it's not. 00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:25.679 You need some substance. 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.519 We can have fun as well. 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.400 I fell asleep in uh Man of Steel. 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:39.920 I didn't fall asleep in Man of Steel, but I must have told you this before that I had to watch um Batman v Superman three times before I made it all the way through. 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:40.480 Nice. 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.519 Because the the first time I was so drunk I fell asleep uh during the midnight screening. 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:54.960 The second time I was so hungover from the night before that I fell asleep, and the third time I is when I finally made it through, and I was like, this was not worth the money. 00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:56.719 So you have seeing it three times. 00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:12.079 Am I right in thinking that you were such a big fan of um Justice League, though, and the Snyder Cut that you watched both the colour version of the Snyder Cut and the black and white? 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:13.440 You might be right. 00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:18.639 It's very possible that I have watched both versions just to see whether it was good, you know. 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:19.840 You never know. 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:30.480 I d I'm glad we've moved away from this weird thing that happened a few years ago where we just re-released the film in black and white as if that was somehow a different version of the film. 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:30.960 Yeah. 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.800 It was was it Mad Max that started that with um the black and chrome version? 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.400 And then Parasite randomly was re-released in black and white. 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:50.960 Parasite, Parasite, because Bang Jun-ho wanted that to be in black and white to begin with, and then they re-released Logan behind uh the poster for which is behind me now. 00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:52.719 They released that in black and white. 00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.119 At that point, I was like, we need to stop this now. 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.079 Yeah, like no one, no one, it's not needed. 00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:58.800 No, completely. 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:01.440 Let's stick with that. 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:01.760 Yeah. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.599 We've seen The Wizard of Oz, it's great. 00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.079 It is, and I have to remind my children when we watched it. 00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:14.320 I was like, just so you know, this was the first film in Technicolor, so they made it black and white at the start just for the contrast and to really blow people's minds. 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:15.519 And you know what? 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.440 It still blows my mind away now. 00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:19.119 Yeah, love it. 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.280 Right, on that amazing piece of cinema history that obviously no one knew. 00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.559 Uh we will wrap up for today because we've witted on for long enough. 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:36.079 Um, when we speak next, we will have both seen uh I think we'll have both seen Toy Story 5, and we'll probably have both seen Supergirl. 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:37.039 I think so, yeah. 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:45.119 I'm seeing I can't say when I'm maybe seeing Supergirl, I realise, but I'm seeing Supergirl next week, hopefully, and I'll definitely be seeing Toy Story. 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:48.400 Well, I'll probably go again next Friday to the cinema to see Supergirl. 00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:53.039 Hopefully it'll be on the Super Screen at my local Cineworld, because I like the biggest screen with the best sound. 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:55.519 You like the big you like the big screens. 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.400 Yeah, the big one with the best sounds always the best one. 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:00.079 Yes, please. 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:01.599 Right, nice one. 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:04.000 We'll join us again when we are next between screenings. 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:04.719 Bye. 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:06.000 Bye bye.