บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Devil Wears Prada 2 thoughts, Obession and Neil's Cannes Preview

I remembered disliking him. 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:33.919 But her friend, who was unbelievably excited about getting a free bag, uh and runs a frickin' art gallery, uh, selling art that no mortal human sort of normal normal person would want to buy, um, you'd have thought she'd have been much more excited about her friend working at the biggest fashion magazine because she could have invited all of a load of people along to her gar gallery openings and stuff. 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.639 Whereas instead she looked down her nose at her load. 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:37.439 I was like, what? 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.599 This well, that doesn't make any sense. 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:48.560 Not only does she take the bag, which I think is worth a thousand dollars or something ridiculous like that, she then takes her phone off her and they play keep away. 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:54.560 And I'm just like the anxiety, and that was in 2006, having your phone taken off you. 00:02:54.639 --> 00:03:03.439 I in nowadays I think I genuinely have a brain aneurysm if someone took my phone off me for longer than four minutes, especially when I was supposed to technically be on the clock. 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:04.800 Um, I do disagree. 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.120 I do think the boy I've I rewatched it as well. 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:08.879 I do I still think the boyfriend sucks. 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:12.319 He sucks slightly less than you remember, but he's not. 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:13.360 He's not great. 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.000 He there's a reason why he's not in this new mover. 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.479 Yes, he's not great, but I didn't think he was I didn't think he was as terrible as I remembered. 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:22.479 But yes, I just say he's not in this one. 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.479 Um overall thoughts on this one. 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:26.800 So we all I think really positive when we came out. 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:28.879 I think we generally really, really liked it. 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:37.840 I think there's uh the sort of understanding that time has passed and that the world is not what it was. 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:47.280 There's the nod to kind of the fact that uh the Meryl Streep character cannot behave in the same way. 00:03:48.080 --> 00:04:08.080 Um she is yeah, Miranda has sort of had her wings clipped slightly, she can no longer dump her coat and bag on a desk uh because of HR complaints, and her assistant now is as well as managing her diary and everything else, also telling her what she is and isn't allowed to say in meetings, which I did find quite. 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:33.600 Yeah, I enjoyed that, but I think the the negative side of that is it means Miranda's suddenly lost some of her power, so it's a bit weird which which makes it a slightly more difficult dynamic in the film that Miranda's kind of still the same person, but also has lost her power, which I think I'm not sure they made enough of that difference in her character to make her as interesting as it could have been. 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:42.639 I think that's an interesting uh point because I think as neutered as she is, the film goes all out of its way to explain why she's so neutered. 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.399 The magazine has lost, I mean, they literally call it more of a pamphlet these days. 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.000 They are a website first, they have to think about social content. 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:58.399 She sat in that meeting and she's listening to people far younger than her explain concepts to her that she clearly is completely bored by, you know. 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.279 And I I quite enjoyed it. 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.360 I I will say I agree. 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:08.480 You do sort of want to see Miranda Priestley be the devil in the, you know, the devil wearing. 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:15.600 And in this, she's more sort of like, I don't know, you know, the middle manager in HM. 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:23.839 Like she's still sort of sharp and she's still up in a position of authority over Andy, but yes, she's definitely lost us, that sort of untouchable feeling. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:31.439 But I think as well, part of that is deliberate because obviously Andy's older, she's not coming in this into this as an assistant anymore. 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.160 She's now the features editor on a magazine. 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:43.199 Um, I will say, as someone who works full-time in journalism, I had been warned going into this film that it was a horror movie. 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:57.439 And I cannot, no word of a lie, I had real existential dread during this because that moment at the beginning, when all of those journalists get a text from, you know, saying you're out of a job, I know people who that's happened to. 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.319 Quite literally, uh, that happened to a friend. 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:06.480 I saw this on the Sunday morning of um of the week of release, and a friend got a text on Monday morning. 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:12.399 We were talking about Devil Wars Prada and how scary it is for journalists, and he got a text saying, You've just been made redundant. 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:13.120 Wow. 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.680 So it's a genuine real life situation. 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:30.160 But even then, like the direct the conversations which um Miranda's having with Andy, I've been a features editor, and the conversation that Miranda's having, yes, this is a very worthy piece of content, but no one's reading it, so what's the point in doing it? 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.399 And you know, like that what about the advertisers? 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:34.399 Have we considered what the advertisers think? 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:36.160 Um, the role of all of that. 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:46.000 And it was, I had a great time with it, but I did come out of it thinking, oh dear lord, what what is going to happen to my

profession? 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:56.560 And I think the film has, I think I've seen people say, oh, it's not a happy ending because, you know, in the end, they rely on another benevolent billionaire to save them. 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.600 And I was a bit like, yeah, but I think the film's very aware of that. 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:16.959 Like in the car ride home, when uh after they've they've landed they've signed the deal with Lucy Lou's character, who sort of comes in at the end to save them from these Jeff Bezos type um, you know, like billionaires who are going to buy runway just for the sake of running it. 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:21.519 They don't really care about the brand or its legacy, they just want it because they want everything. 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.519 Um and then Lucy Lou's character comes in and she genuinely believes in what they're doing. 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.279 And Miranda Priestley says, All you've done is buy as a stay of execution. 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:41.279 And you didn't do this for yourself, you did this for you because the Titanic has sunk and we just grabbed on to the nearest piece of driftwood floating by, and there's room enough on the raft for both of us now. 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:44.959 And I was like, Oh my god, it is so true. 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.160 You know, like this idea. 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:52.560 And also the idea that I think they also say at that point as well, she says she's gonna be completely hands-off, and Randall's like, yeah, for now. 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:54.319 Yeah, and so it's her. 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:58.959 I mean, remember, remember when Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post and said exactly the same thing? 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:00.160 He was gonna be hands-off. 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:01.839 And how long did that last? 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.680 You know, I think uh a presidential term, basically. 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:14.560 Um, other than that, though, like outside of the you know, the ennui and sheer dread I felt leaving the cinema, I will say I felt it was very, very funny. 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:19.199 I thought all of the characters it felt like we hadn't missed a beat in these characters' lives. 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:26.720 Uh and Stanley Tucci, I know he's never gonna get any sort of awards recognition for this, but the character of Nigel is such a treat. 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:34.080 And when he's on, well, you know, like just from the way he dresses to the way, like, you know, how how he how archy is, I love it. 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:35.679 I love that he got his moment. 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:39.039 I love the relationship that character has with Miranda. 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:46.879 Like when uh Andy brings up the did she ever apologise, by the way, for essentially fucking you over at the end of the last movie. 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.879 And he's like, Oh, she's done that like eight more times since you left. 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:52.639

Like, what are you talking about? 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.960 And then in this, in this one, she finally says, I've I've overlooked you, you know. 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:01.519 Like, I'm surrounded by basically she's like, I'm surrounded by people who are incompetent, but there's always been you. 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:02.720 And I really like that. 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:10.399 Uh yeah, and I think the little moment between um Nigel and Andy at the end as well was very sweet. 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:12.879 Yes, when he's like, I never forgot you. 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.080 Um, yeah. 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:18.480 All in all, though, I I'd say it's a really I thought it was a really good film. 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.279 And already the fifth highest grossing movie of the year. 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:22.240 So, you know. 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:23.279 I don't know. 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:24.559 Not bad, eh? 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.720 I think the one the one thing I quite liked, and I think so some people have seen it as a negative, I think. 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:29.919 Um, but I quite liked it. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:45.440 Like Anne Appo's character obviously is coming in as a real journalist now, and she's coming in as a features editor, and she uh she thinks it's great, but then obviously the uh Miranda sort of knocks her back down to her place as soon as she comes in because she then goes and sacks the actual features editor. 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.759 But also a lot of people are like, well, why is Mur why is Andy's like she's 40 uh now? 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.000 She's you know she's a feat she's a seasoned journalist. 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:55.919 Why is she still so in awe of Miranda and still seeking her approval so much? 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.879 And I think if you're a 20-something, you don't get that. 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:01.200 If I think when you're older, you do get it. 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:09.919 Because there's I I can meet people who were in positions of authority and you really looked up to when you're in your 20s, and you're still kind of terrified of them now. 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:17.440 The fact you're older doesn't change the way you feel about those people who are in positions of authority uh above you. 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:24.720 Because I was chatting to someone who said they they used to play a lot of football, and he said, like, my youth team football coaches, if I met them now, I'd be absolutely terrified. 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.919 Like, no, it doesn't matter that I'm now a 40-odd year old man. 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.279 Like, I it's just you still they still have that power over you. 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:32.240 No, entirely. 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.759 And I think like, again, to go full journalism on it as well. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:46.159 First of all, we have to note that within the world of the movie, Miranda has maintained control over a magazine and website for at this point decades, which in itself is really impressive. 00:10:46.320 --> 00:11:04.559 And secondly, like I like I was at an event the other day, I won't name names, but I was I was at an event the other day, and a journalist who I have looked up to since wanting to become a journalist saw me at the bar, came over and said hello, and was like, you know, saying, Oh, how's things? 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:05.120 How's Emily? 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:05.919 Blah, blah, blah. 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:07.279 You know, normal conversation. 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.440 I've known this person for quite some time now. 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:10.960 And they walked away. 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:14.639 And I thought to myself, oh my God, that was X. 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:16.480 And I have a f and I'm friends with them. 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:17.279 Do you know what I mean? 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.879 Like that is something that, you know, you can never shake off. 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:29.759 Even like as I approach 40, you know, it's it's wild that you still, these people are still legends to you, you know, when you see them, you're like, oh my god, they're so cool. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.360 Because they're the, you know, they're the big beasts of your industry, even now. 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.600 Like, I I I completely agree. 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:37.759 Andy would be like that towards Miranda. 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:47.360 I mean, if you're in the fashion industry and you bump and you really want to, that's, you know, and you've maybe worked for Anna Winter in the past and you meet Anna Winter again, she still looks bloody terrifying. 00:11:47.679 --> 00:12:00.080 Well, I think as well, it's it's a very outside of the industry the sort of idea that, well, a serious journalist would look down on someone who was the editor of a squire or vogue or something like that. 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.120 Absolutely not. 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.360 They would be like, oh my god, that's the editor. 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:10.720 I mean, you know, Anna Winter is a big deal within, and I use, you know, inverted inverted quotes here, serious journalism. 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:26.559 Just because you write features about, you know, social issues does not mean you don't look at the career of someone like, you know, uh Anna Winter or, you know, within my my game, like Mark Commode and people like that, and think they are lesser journalists because they work on more frivolous topics. 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.159 No, that's not the way it works. 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:32.879 People are impressed by decent writing and, you know, and decent journalists. 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:33.759 Yeah. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:35.039 No, agreed. 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:40.639 Um, but yeah, overall, I think you don't have to leave you don't have to read into it and take it as seriously as we have in this conversation. 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:41.519 No, that is true. 00:12:41.840 -->

00:12:42.240 That is true. 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:51.840 It is also just a fun sort of slightly it's got those sort of deeper things in it about the state of journalism and the state of um the world. 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.159 It didn't go into influencer culture, which was interesting. 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.799 They kind of had little nods to influencer culture, but they didn't do much on that. 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.279 Um and the Lady Gargah bit was fun. 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:02.960 Yeah, the Lady Garga bit was fun. 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.759 Very much enjoyed Lady Gargar's little cameo. 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.679 Um, and yeah, I think just generally it was it was a good, fun couple of hours in the cinema. 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.360 And everyone I know who came away from it really enjoyed it. 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:22.960 And I'm not surprised it's gonna it's about to cross 500 million at the box office this weekend, I think, uh, and it will still keep going. 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:24.720 So I think there's a lot of people who'll be re-watching it. 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:25.759 Oh, 100%. 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:29.039 Not bad for a$100 million movie. 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:40.000 No, well, it's already, I think it out and a a movie that it did well at the box office when it first came out, but it certainly didn't do um like amazing m amazing numbers. 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.039 I think it did 150 million or something at the box office when it first came out. 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:54.720 So, you know, it's it's it's a bit of a juggernaut now, and it's showing that this uh what they call them, the legacy sequels are um are a thriving business. 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:02.960 And I I don't doubt that Hollywood will plunder that well until it is absolutely bone-dry. 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:04.240 Oh, entirely. 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:08.159 We will be watching The Devil Wears Prada 3, maybe in the next five years. 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:09.440 I have no doubts about that. 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:11.759 Well, we've already got another Top Gun coming. 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:13.679 Yeah, well God, entirely. 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.639 Happy 40th birthday, um, Top Gun, by the way. 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:17.840 Yes. 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:18.720 Oh yeah. 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:20.960 And uh we missed May the 4th. 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:22.720 We're 10 days late for May the 4th. 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:28.879 Well, Star Wars ain't that interesting anymore, as we clear as we spoke about at length last week. 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:33.840 Although next time we record, I think I will have seen Mandalorian and Grogo. 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:36.000 So we could talk more about that then. 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:37.600 Right, cool. 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:43.919 Um I think I think my youngest daughter wants to go to the cinema to see it because she likes Star Wars, but she's not watched The Mandalorian. 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:53.840 So I I'm quite interested to go with her as someone who's seen all of The Mandalorian and see if someone who has no prior knowledge of The Mandalorian can actually enjoy it. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.120 I think that will be interesting. 00:14:55.440 --> 00:15:03.360 So there were they showed the first 20 minutes last week to um select journals and influencers at an event in London. 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:14.720 And the social media scuttlebot is that it's very much like an episode of Mandar that at least in those opening 20 minutes, um, it's very much just like another episode of the Mandalorian and Grogu. 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:19.679 So yeah, I guess if that's what you're into, I'd be interested to tell you what your daughter thinks. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:28.000 Yes, I think someone who with no no prior knowledge of Mandalorian and Grogu coming into it, will it stand alone as a as a story for her? 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:30.399 Because if it doesn't, I think it's absolutely screwed. 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:31.279 Oh, 100%. 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:37.679 I still think it's gonna bottom out at 300 mil and they're gonna earn solo, but I think that's sort of where it ends up. 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:38.480 Yeah. 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:39.039 Right. 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:40.399 And what else have you seen, Tom? 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:44.240 I see I believe you've seen some other highbrow fare at the cinema this week. 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:56.480 So I I've seen some really super, you know, in uh super, as you say, intellectual heavyweight movies, such as Mortal Kombat 2, starring Carl Urban as Johnny Cage. 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:08.960 Um so yeah, I went to see this uh last week, and dear God, this is probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:18.080 Like genuinely like borderline incoherent, like plot-wise, uh like all spectacle, absolutely no substance. 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:19.679 I had a great time with it. 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.200 I can't lie, it's genuinely terrible, but I was laughing the whole way through. 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.919 Um, you know, I had a big grin on my face. 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:29.600 I thought it was really funny. 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:35.279 I found the the fact that they thought this was okay to release is amazing to me. 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:42.399 It's genuinely astounding that anyone would put this out and be like, yeah, this is an okay thing to, you know, we'll put this out and people will like it. 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:48.559 Um I should say I went with some friends who were less charitable to it. 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:51.759 They said it was legitimately shit. 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.799 Um, you know, like there was no fun to be had with it at all. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.440 But I will say I think they were being a bit self-serious. 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:01.120 Like if you go to a film called Mortal Kombat, what are you expecting? 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There's gore, there's catchphrases, and there's some relatively cool action set pieces. 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.559 Yeah, it doesn't make a lick of sense. 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.119 Yes, it's really stupid at points. 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:21.440 Yes, it's extremely convoluted, but basically you're just going to watch some cutscenes of Mortal Kombat glued together, you know, and that's what it glivers. 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:26.960 Like it's it's it's a film to go see with friends and just have a laugh at. 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:32.000 Maybe not always with, have a you know, uh have fun talking about afterwards. 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.839 Um yeah, it's I don't think it's one for you, Neil. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:36.559 I'll say that. 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.440 No, no, it's strangely not been to to watch that one. 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:42.400 And it I I didn't see the first one, don't plan on seeing this one. 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:46.960 I would say it's worse than the first one, which is saying something, because that first one is terrible. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:47.440 Right. 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.119 But apparently it did very well on HBO Yes. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:18:01.039 Well, when they released it day and date, so it didn't do great at the Box Office, but they were doing this whole post-COVID day and date thing on HBO Max, and apparently it did very, very well on HBO Max, which is why it got the sequel. 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:18.640 Yeah, and I think maybe they've overestimated the difference between, you know, we will watch something for free on HBO Max versus we will pay money to go to the cinema because I think this has only made 70 mil worldwide or something like that so far, and it's been out for a week. 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:23.359 Um cost, I think, 80 mil or something like that. 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:24.240 Right. 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:28.799 So yeah, it's it's not made its budget back in the first week, which is never great. 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:32.480 And as you say, you've got Mando Mando and Grog Grogalorian, no. 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.640 The Mando and Grogu staring it down this way, you know, next week. 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:38.799 I just I don't think this is gonna do particularly well. 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:40.880 Maybe it's designed to go on HBO Max. 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:41.440 Who knows? 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:42.960 Maybe I'm completely wrong. 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:45.599 Um, but I don't think it's gonna have legs. 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:53.839 And the other film you've seen was the directorial, was it I don't know if it was a directorial debut, but it's it's directed by a famous YouTuber. 00:18:54.559 --> 00:19:06.400 So, yeah, this I saw Obsession, which was directed by Curry Berker, who is one part of the internet sketch duo, uh That's a Bad Idea. 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:18.240 And this is a film about uh a young man, maybe in his 20s, who is in love with a girl and he makes a wish on a willow stick. 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:24.640 This might be an American thing that we don't have over there, that she loves him more than anyone else on earth. 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.279 And would you believe his wish comes true? 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:36.960 She becomes obsessed with him and it turns into one of the most intense and disturbing horror films I've ever seen in my life. 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:50.880 So when I heard the premise, I was expecting something like I don't know if you've seen these films, um, Happy Death Day, um, or which is like a relatively light horror comedy about a girl, like Groundhog Day meets a slasher. 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:51.680 And then we've got to be. 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.359 I think I've seen bits of it, but as we know, this is not my favorite genre. 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.200 This is yeah, this is not your favorite genre. 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:09.200 But I was expecting something relatively light-hearted, you know, sort of, oh look, ha ha ha, he's got what you, you know, this this is awkward, and you know, maybe she becomes a serial killer by the end of the movie because she's so obsessed with him. 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:18.000 I would put this more in the vein of your hereditary, your bring them back, your sort of like real, sort of elevated like horror. 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:25.279 It is there were scenes during this that I found so intense I had to look away from the screen. 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:33.039 And it had two moments, which I won't spoil, one of which was the scariest thing I think I've ever I've heard in a cinema this year. 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:37.039 And I went to see a movie that, a podcast horror movie earlier this year, if you remember. 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.079 And it was scarier than it's scarier sounding than that. 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:52.240 And second of all, one of the most intensely violent scenes I've ever seen in a horror ever, which went on for probably 60 seconds, but felt like about half an hour. 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.079 It was so shocking. 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:59.279 Everyone in the cinema started looking at each other to be like, did that genuinely just happen? 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.119 Um, I loved it. 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:08.160 Again, like again, and as I was leaving, the class who I saw it with were all like, this is incredible, this is brilliant. 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:20.480 Like, this has been getting really good buzz basically since it premiered at Toronto last year, and a lot of people have been very, very excited to see it, including myself, and I'm so happy to say it lived up to the expectations. 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:33.279 If you love horror films, this is out on Friday, go see it because it is brilliant, but I warn you now, it is gross, horrible, and it will leave you itching. 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.519 I saw this with a friend and we went for a beer last night while we were out. 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:44.640 We saw this on

Tuesday, and he said to me yesterday, I'm still thinking about things in that movie. 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.200 Like two days later, I cannot get them out of my head. 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:48.640 And I was like, Yeah, me too. 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:50.559 So a big recommend from me. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:55.119 Um and yeah, a fantastic horror movie, and I'm really excited to see. 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:59.759 I think this guy, I think Curry Barker is doing the remake of the Texas Change. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:01.119 Chainsaw Massacre next. 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:03.519 Okay, he's taking over that franchise. 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:05.680 That's what I've that's what I've heard. 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:06.079 Yes. 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:13.039 Yeah, he's uh re reimagining the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for A24, and I'm very, very excited to hear what that's gonna be. 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:13.759 Sorry, C B. 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.279 Well, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I think, still is one of the scariest films I've ever seen. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:17.920 100%. 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:20.000 I think the remakes were terrible. 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:30.160 Well, the remakes missed the point, but the remakes really lean into sort of like the goriness of it as opposed to the just sheer pant shitting terror of that fan. 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.119 Like for me, the worst scene in that is when the guy gets hit on the head with a hammer. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.799 You know, like when he's horrible. 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:37.599 And the noise, ugh yeah. 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:39.519 Uh I'm very excited, Doug. 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:44.640 Uh, and I'd be interested to see what uh what we get next from old Curry Barker. 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.160 Right, one to watch. 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:53.839 Uh only other thing I've seen since we last saw each other that didn't go to the cinema to see it, but I saw it on um one of your favorite streaming services. 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:58.000 Um I saw the new Aziz Anzari movie with Keanu Reeves. 00:22:58.079 --> 00:22:59.359 So I saw Good Fortune. 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:00.480 Have you seen this one? 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:02.160 No, no, I've not. 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:12.799 So it's Aziz Anzari's sort of uh feature film directorial debut, obviously from Parks on Rec and um the stand-up stuff he's done, and then Master of None. 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:18.000 And then he's he's just come up with this with this feature which he wrote and directed, and I really enjoyed it. 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:26.640 Um the premise is that Keanu Reeves is a guardian angel, um, but he's the guardian angel that protects you from texting and driving. 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:34.400 So if you're ever texting and driving, he puts his hand on your shoulder and you sort of look up from your phone and that stops you crashing and dying. 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:35.519 So that's his job. 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.759 But he doesn't get much satisfaction out of it. 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.759 So he wants to be a proper angel and really help people's lives. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.599 So he sees the Zizanzari character who's really struggling. 00:23:45.680 --> 00:24:04.079 Like he's been to uni, he's got loads of student loans, um, he's a documentary filmmaker editor, but there's no work around at the moment, and he's working uh for like a DoorDash type company where he's sort of basically just doing odd jobs for people, like an odd job thing. 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:11.440 So he gets one job which is like standing in line at a cinnamon bun store because the person obviously doesn't want to stand in line themselves, so they pay him to go and stand in line. 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.559 Of course, um, and fun jobs like that. 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:27.200 So he then ends up meeting the Seth Rogan's character who is a uh billionaire tech bro who sort of thinks he works really hard and goes to like two meetings a week or something. 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:34.720 Um and he ends up working for him as his assistant, which is really good. 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:42.880 But then he makes a little bit of a mistake and gets fired by Seth Rogan, and he's back to sleeping in his car and everything's doom and gloom again. 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:58.640 So Keanu Reeves then intervenes and swaps their lives to show the Azizan Zari character that money doesn't make you happy and that his life was worth living and make him realize his life was worth living so that they swap back. 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.839 Um but unfortunately Azan Zari's character is like, nah, this is great. 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:05.119 No, this is fantastic. 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:05.440 Yep. 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:10.960 He's like, so have you have you understood that your life is precious and better now? 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.279 And he's like, no, this is great. 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:14.480 I love it. 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:16.720 I've got loads of money. 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:17.759 Brilliant. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.599 Um so there's lots of little funny bits like that. 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.440 It is quite funny, but ultimately he does realise that his life was worth living and goes back to his old life. 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:26.000 Of course. 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.599 We've all seen we've all seen these films. 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:29.359 Of course you have to do it at the end of the film. 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:30.799 But it does, I think it really does. 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:53.519 But also the Seth Rogan character does kind of change because he has to go through the the sort of working from sort of job to job in the gig economy, trying to make a living doing delivery driving or whatever it might be, and realizing that actually the people who own these things and the way it's structured is not you can't live on it, like it is impossible. 00:25:53.759 --> 00:26:02.400 So he kind of

takes that back with him and becomes a uh uh ethical billionaire in paying his workers properly and all that sort of stuff. 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:03.200 But yeah, of course. 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.359 It's it's lovely, positive, wholesome stuff for everyone at the end. 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:15.440 But it was funny, it was good, it was something worth what if you've got a c an hour and a half spare uh on a Friday evening, it's perfectly worth a watch. 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:16.160 You know what? 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:17.200 I might watch it tonight. 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:18.480 I have seen it advertised. 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.160 Maybe that's my movie tonight. 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:21.680 Yeah, it's a good one. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.200 So yes, I enjoyed that. 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.880 But yes, I won't be seeing anything quite that lighthearted in Cannes, I don't think. 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.119 No, I don't think you will. 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.559 Um what is your Cannes itinerary looking like? 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:57.359 So I fly in tomorrow morning, I think we our flight gets in about half nine, and we're gonna go get our go straight to get our um go straight to get our accreditation, and then we are off to see Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, which apparently is a raw a a really good you'd like this one. 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.480 It's a really good queer horror slasher. 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:07.039 So I have seen reactions for this coming in today while I've been at work and I'm like, well, sold. 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.680 Like the title alone had me sold, but the reaction has been so strong. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.680 Do you think Carl is gonna like it? 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:14.160 Yeah, yeah. 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:14.960 Carl loves it. 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.519 I think Carl is not a Carl is not adverse to a horror. 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.000 So Peter Bradley's. 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:35.359 I mean, obviously, it's got Gillian Anderson in it, and then it's got um Hannah Einbinder, who people probably don't know the name, but if you've seen Hacks, she is um the main character on side Gene Smart's character in Hacks. 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:39.440 Uh and I absolutely love Hacks, so I'm I'm excited to see her doing something else. 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.799 Um and yeah, I mean I think that's gonna be a great intro uh to Can, I think. 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:46.960 Well, I'm I'm I'm very jealous. 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.599 Peter Bradshaw has given this five stars. 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:51.440 And nice. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.400 Yeah, so I think you're in for a real treat there. 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:58.079 And he's written more than two lines, so you know he really enjoyed it. 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:11.119 Um and it may well be that um Friday is a bit of a horror day because the next one I'm hoping I haven't got a ticket yet, but I'm hoping to go and see a film called Sanguine, which

is a uh French horror film. 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:12.160 So yes. 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.440 So we'll see what happens with the case. 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.000 How does the how does the ticketing work at Cannes? 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.559 Do you because presumably you have an industry pass? 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:21.200 Yes. 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.319 Oh, there's no such thing as there is only industry passes. 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:25.039 Right, okay. 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.039 So you can't go as a general punter. 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.920 You can't just be like, I fancy seeing some films in Cannes. 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.359 There are certain screenings called the Cannes Cinephile screenings. 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:39.599 So if you I don't know if you need to be a member of Cannes Cinephiles, which is just the sort of people who live in Cannes who like going to the cinema. 00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:46.000 I don't know if it's a club type thing, but there are some screenings which are Cannes Cinephile screenings, which are kind of general public screenings. 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.720 But there are very few, very few of them. 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.759 All the other screenings, you need a festival badge or a market badge to be able to go and see. 00:28:53.920 --> 00:29:02.640 Now it's unbelievably good value because a festival badge, I don't know if I said this last time, but a festival badge is 25 euros if you book it early enough. 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.680 And that gets you into absolutely everything. 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:06.240 Okay. 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.880 Um the way the tickets work though is they go on sale at 7 a.m. 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.960 France time every morning. 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.519 So for four days in advance. 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:24.400 So for instance, this morning I was up at because we're an hour behind, I was up at 5 to 6, sat by my behind my computer, ready to go. 00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.519 And then you basically keep refreshing and then you get put in a queue. 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.640 So I was put in a queue at pretty much bang on one minute to six. 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:41.519 I was put in a 60-second queue, counts down, and then you're in, and then you've got to get straight to the day that um you've got to get straight to that day, uh, and then just go for the film you want. 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:56.640 So I was booking films for Monday, so I got in and I went straight to the bottom of the the list of films, and I managed to get uh a ticket for Her Private Hell, the new Nicholas Weining Reffin film, which is playing at the Palais, I'll have to wear my tux. 00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:58.880 Um, so I managed to get that. 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.160 And then once you've done that, everything else is basically gone. 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:11.519 Like if you're lucky, you manage to book one other film in in the time you've got um because everyone is on their booking at the same time. 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:23.839 Now, not getting because I've been quite a few years now, not getting the films you want isn't the biggest concern because they do become available because people cancel them and then they they reappear. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:41.359 But if you want those tickets, uh so if there is something you want, so for instance, I want to go and see this film Sanguine on um uh Friday night, I basically have to go onto the page for Sanguine and just keep refreshing it until a ticket pops up and then get it the instant it comes up. 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:42.079 Right, okay. 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.880 Um so I spend a lot of time in Cannes refreshing my phone. 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:51.279 So sat on your phone or on laptops just sort of Yeah, so I've done it before where I can't remember what film it was. 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.599 I think it was maybe the Coriado one monster. 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.279 Um I was just refreshing my phone and refreshing my phone and refreshing my phone, and then I suddenly got it. 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:01.519 And I was like, oh no, it's in like 45 minutes. 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:03.839 But I've got to wear a tux. 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:08.880 So I had to then leg it all the way back to my Airbnb, put my tux on. 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:14.400 This was when I was staying up like the first year I went, so I was staying up up a massive hill and I'd hired an e-bike. 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:27.680 So I was like pedaling my e-bike as fast as I could to get back to my uh Airbnb, quickly changed into my tux, and then I'm like bombing it back down the hill on my e-bike in my tux so I could get to the film in time. 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:38.799 Um, so yeah, so you see a lot of people in Cannes who don't necessarily have a ticket for the for those films wandering around in tuxes because if you do suddenly get one last minute, you need your tux on so you can get in there. 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:43.839 Um I've got that, and then I think what what else have I got? 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:49.200 I've got I've actually managed to get a lot of stuff booked already, for which which for me is pretty good. 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:50.799 Normally I don't have that. 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:58.960 On the I've got four films booked for the Saturday, so I'm going to see Club Kid, which is getting some good uh reviews already. 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:10.559 Uh Gentle Monster, I'm going to see, uh, and Full Phil, starring Woody Harrelson and Kirsten Stewart. 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:11.519 I love it. 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.559 Um and that is playing in the midnight section. 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:20.400 Uh, and is it I'm going to see it at 12.30am and it finishes at 2 in the morning. 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:21.359 Nice. 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.359 Yes, who doesn't love that? 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:31.599 Dare I ask, have you been able to see have you managed to secure tickets yet to the John Travolta 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directorial debut? 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:33.759 Propeller one-way night coach. 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:42.880 You'll be very happy that my list of so my uh after Gentle as well as those three films I've mentioned on the Saturday night, I'm going to see Propeller One-Way Night Coach. 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:44.000 I cannot wait. 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:48.480 I expect a text explaining in some detail your thoughts. 00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.480 Is it as weird as we expect? 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.319 Like everything, please. 00:32:52.720 --> 00:33:03.359 Well, I assumed Khan had made a mistake on their website when I booked it because it starts at 6.15 pm and they tell you what time it finishes. 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.519 It finishes at 7.15 p.m. 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.880 It's only an hour, it's one hour and one minute long. 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.880 Oh my god, so it's six right. 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.400 So it's not so I suppose it is a feature, but it's not a feature. 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.720 It's it's probably it's the shortest feature they've got can this year, I'll tell you that for nothing. 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:21.839 Wow. 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.319 Well, I'm still excited for it. 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.119 Yeah, and then I've got paper tiger, I've got tickets for paper tiger on the Sunday morning. 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:35.039 One of the other things it can, so I booked the Sunday morning ticket for Paper Tiger at 8.30. 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:51.359 That means now that I can't currently book a ticket for the Paper Tiger big celebrity gala screening on the Saturday night, because you can't book the same film twice. 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.440 Oh, okay. 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.359 I mean, I quite like that. 00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:10.000 Yeah, so if I want if I thought, right, maybe I can get maybe I can get a ticket for um for for the big tuxedo wearing premiere, I would have to cancel the ticket I've currently got and then just hope. 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:11.039 Okay. 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:11.840 I you know what? 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:13.280 I kinda rate that though. 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:28.239 I because I know film critics, and again, not gonna name names, who like to go to the morning screening and they take a seat, and then they like to go to the evening gala where the celebrities attend uh the other festivals. 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:49.840 I've always felt, I mean, you know, it's in the within the rules of the festivals that neighbor there attending, but I've always felt like you're kind of denying another journalist a seat there and something you've seen, and they could potentially get paid for reviewing that, you know, or you know, and I so I'm I like that can sort of have a system for dealing with people who try and see things twice. 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.679 Although I'm sure if you're a big enough name, they'll let you into both. 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.880 I'm sure if you're a big enough name, they will let you into both. 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:01.119 Um so yeah, so then I've got, you know, there's other films, there's more films I would like to see. 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.440 Um, like I say, I've got the Nicholas Weining Ref and one. 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:09.440 I'm going to see another one called Hope, which is a another horror, which you'd you'd probably be a fan of, Tom. 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:16.079 Um it is a Korean South a Korean horror. 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.119 Um so we'll say that apparently. 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.599 Carl is saying it's gonna be a good one. 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:24.800 Uh I trust Carl. 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:26.480 Carl's a man trusting that. 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.960 I am very interested to see Nicholas Wine Reference's new one because he's not done anything in a long time. 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.320 Um, so I am very interested to see to see his one. 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:44.480 Obviously, visually, it's gonna be amazing because it always is, and I think I've read interviews with him before where he's sort of talked about how visuals are the thing that drives him. 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:52.559 So he'll often have an idea of a visual, and that will be he'll just craft a story around wanting to show this amazing visual. 00:35:52.719 --> 00:36:06.239 Um, so we'll we'll we'll see what's going on there, and then later on in the week, um, I'm hoping to get tickets to Fjord, which has already been picked up by Picture House for the UK, um, Sebastian Stan and Renee Rest of It. 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:14.480 Um, and then I'm hoping to go and see uh Diamond, which is directed by Andy Garcia. 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.880 Uh would like to see the new Armadavo one. 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.440 Um, yeah, lots to see. 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.599 So it's gonna be a very packed week. 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:24.880 Yeah, gonna be a very packed week. 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.599 Has Nicholas Winding Ruffin done anything since Neon Demon? 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.079 No, this is the first one since Neon Demon. 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:31.679 Well, ten years then. 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:33.199 Is that ten years ago now? 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:34.320 Ten years. 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:39.760 Have I told you that I actually I interviewed Nicholas Winding Ruffin for uh Neon Demon? 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:40.480 No. 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:50.880 Yeah, I I uh I when they did the home release of uh Neon Demon, they uh I they set up a phone with me, and it was one of the strangest interviews I've ever done in my life. 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:58.159 Because as you can imagine, the man is a slightly odd, and like you ask him a question and he doesn't necessarily give you a straight answer. 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:07.280 He talks in metaphor quite a lot, and yeah, needless to say, we did the interview and we thanked the PR, and then we were like, can't really make this work. 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:07.920 Sorry.

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.239 Fascinating guy, but not someone who talks in journalistic sound bites. 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.119 No, he's I think he's quite intense. 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:16.639 Yes, oh 100%. 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.559 Obviously, most people probably know him from Drive, I would say is his biggest breakout film. 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:29.920 Um, but I I what I love is that after Drive, you know, that was definitely a breakout film. 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.360 It was uh at the time in the early sort of tens, that was the the cool film. 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:43.119 That was kind of the not pulp fiction, but the kind of that level of cool film for for the tens. 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.440 And he kind of then just went, cool, I'm just gonna carry on doing loads of weird shit. 00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:48.800 Which is good. 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:49.360 Yeah. 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.960 No, I I agree. 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:56.400 Ryan Gosling wasn't meant to be in Only God Forgives, which was kind of the follow-up to drive. 00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:03.519 Uh, but I think the actor who was meant to be in it dropped out or let him down, uh, and Gosling basically did it as a favour. 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:04.639 Oh. 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:06.159 I mean, yeah. 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.760 I that does not surprise me. 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:19.280 I mean, because you know, after he's I'm sure Gosling feels a degree of I don't think he owes his career to Raffin, but I think he's probably very happy that he ended up being in Drive. 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:20.079 Yeah. 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:25.360 To be fair, I mean he took nearly 10 years between the two pusher films. 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:27.280 Just a slow worker, clearly. 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.039 I mean, if you've got the money, why why would you need to work quickly? 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.159 Well, entirely. 00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:40.000 I bet you he's been directing some I bet you he's been doing some high-end commercials in his brand to get the cash in. 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.360 And I bet they're not listed on his IMDB or Wikipedia. 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:44.000 No. 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:49.679 I but I get but I guarantee you he's done some uh some high high fashion commercials. 00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.119 Well, is there anything else we need to know about your trip to Cannes? 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:53.840 I don't think so. 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.599 I mean I've got some meetings, I've got meetings while I'm over there because I always have meetings while I'm over there. 00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.159 But no, generally, going to be watching loads of films this year. 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.000 Gonna be staying longer than I normally do. 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.960 Normally don't sort of start normally I'm there by now. 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.599 I normally either go on the Thursday or the Friday, but I normally am back on the Monday or Tuesday. 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.599 Um so I've never stayed a full week before. 00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:23.199 So it'll be interesting to see how the festival shifts as you move through the week because everyone says it gets a lot quieter in the the second half of the festival as the market kind of winds down. 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.360 So I'll be interested to see sort of that side of the festival as well. 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:28.960 Um so yeah, it'll be interesting. 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:34.320 Well, I look forward to hearing your reports back as well as your many, many, your countless reviews. 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.400 Maybe we'll just yes, there will be. 00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.599 Maybe we'll do a lightning round where you're like fine, fine, want to talk about that one more. 00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:42.719 Good, bad. 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.360 Maybe that's how we'll handle everything you say. 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:46.480 Yeah. 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:53.519 Uh apparently, according to our website I just looked at, Nicholas Wannie Reffin has not done a commercial since 2015 either, when he did a Hennessy commercial. 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.360 Well, you know what, Nicholas, we take it back then and we apologize sincerely. 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.800 Uh we never meant to imply that you enjoyed dollars. 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:06.880 No, I mean he just enjoys making let's hope absolute bangers. 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.159 What did you think of Neon Demon? 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:11.760 I really like Neon Demon. 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:21.920 Neon Demon's one of those films that on paper I shouldn't enjoy because it's got that whiff of pretentiousness about it, but it's just it's so beautiful and it's just a really engaging film. 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:36.239 Yeah, it sort of breaks through that sort of it is a lot of style, and you know, and it does leave you wonder um asking a f a lot of questions at the end, but it still works for me just because of how ambitious and weird it is. 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:37.360 That's what I enjoy about that. 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.719 I mean hell, El Fanning was only 19 when she did it. 00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:41.440 Yeah. 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:42.559 No, 18. 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:43.840 She was 18 when she did it. 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.199 Yeah, she wasn't old. 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:58.079 Uh it is Emily, one of Emily's uh proudest accomplishments in life, that she is, you know, on the uh Blu-ray box where it says five stars, that that is Emily's five stars that she gave it. 00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:58.960 There you go. 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:03.519 So which is why it is on our shelf, and because we like the movie as well, obviously. 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:04.960 Tom, I've seen your shelf. 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.559 There is a lot of films on your shelf. 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.360 That is true. 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.519 There are a lot of movies on my shelves. 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:10.480 Right. 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:12.079 I think we will leave it there. 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:18.079 Uh and when we next speak, you'll be able to get learn all about Neil's adventures in Cannes. 00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:20.159 And what will you have seen? 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.960 What will you have seen after I've seen about 15 films in Cannes? 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.079 What will you have watched? 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.960 I probably will have seen The Mandalorian and Grogo. 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.760 Um and let's have a look else. 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:30.639 What else is coming up? 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.360 Mandalorian, what's coming up? 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.400 What's out in cinemas? 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:37.679 Now. 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.280 So I will probably have seen by the time we talk again. 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.199 I'm hoping that I will have uh the Mandalorian and Grogan Grogo. 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.920 That seems pretty much locked in to as of today. 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:58.480 Um I hope I'll have seen Finding Emily, because I'm really interested in that. 00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:07.360 Uh there's a horror movie coming out called Passenger, which they showed a sneak peek of ahead of Scream 7 to press. 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.760 And I was like, oh my god, this looks terrifying. 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.960 Uh and I'm really excited for that, so I'm hoping I'll get to see that. 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:14.880 And I think that's pretty much it. 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.679 Because I imagine we'll talk again in about two weeks. 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.639 And I think that's pretty much everything over the next two weeks. 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:21.360 Cool. 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:21.760 Right. 00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.119 Well, look forward to my cannon ventures and Tom's reviews of those films. 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.679 And we will see you next time between screenings. 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:28.719 Bye bye. 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:29.599 Cool.