บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ E12 - Trust the Process, Writing Through Grief, & the Great Secret Dog Caper

And I'm sure it was a great time. 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:12.960 Let's hope we had good weather. 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:13.840 Let's see. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.480 We have Joe Walters is coming back for a guest speaker to talk about book reviews. 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.000 That will be in November. 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:21.439 We're currently still waiting for the date. 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.040 Maybe by the time this is out, we have it. 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.360 But if you're interested in that, just check it out on the website. 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:30.399 And yeah, Authorpreneur Community, we started doing also quarterly open houses. 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:36.079 So we're looking forward to the next one, which will be actually have already happened again. 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:37.120 So yeah. 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:42.399 Just check our website for dates. 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.800 Our calendar is a little fluid right now, so we're kind of moving some stuff around and everything. 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.720 A lot of new events happening, trying to work them in with the holiday season coming up. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.759 It's getting a little tricky with some people, so we'll get it in there. 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:55.839 Yes, we have the authorpreneur community. 00:04:55.920 --> 00:05:04.160 We're starting these open houses, and we're gonna have had one on the 23rd of October talking about fall and the holidays, and then we're gonna have the next one. 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:08.639 Uh, we'll so there's a quarterly, the next one will be talking about uh getting set up in the new year. 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.000 So stay tuned for those. 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:20.720 And that's just welcome you into the community so you can come check it out, come hang out with us, ask whatever questions you have about the theme for that event, and uh we'll be looking forward to hosting you at one of those. 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.879 And of course, there's always the free trial on the authorpreneur community, and we love to have you stop by and check it out. 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:28.000 And what's this? 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.120 I think I think we have a friend visiting us right now. 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:32.959 Our friends are here. 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:33.839 Excellent. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:34.879 Ooh, good. 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:36.319 This is an exciting one today. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.319 I know, super excited to have Ryan here. 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.680 So, Ryan, thanks for joining us here today. 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:43.439 Not a problem, not a problem. 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:44.480 I'm glad to be here. 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:46.399 And again, like I said, I'm glad to be seen. 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:46.959 Right? 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:53.120 Well, we were last seen together at AWP in Baltimore, which was a lot of fun. 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.759 And Jess and I were trying to figure out that timeline the other day. 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:00.240 We were talking about it on the phone like earlier this week, and we're like, was that just this year? 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:01.360 It was, right? 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:03.360 I think it was March, right? 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:03.680 Right. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.160 So sorry, I'm like, I know I'm not tripping. 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:07.439 We thought we were too. 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.480 I was just like, there's no way that was just six months ago. 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:11.360 Like, whoa. 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:11.839 Right? 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:18.800 So, Ryan, you have so many things going on in the book film just creative world. 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.160 So, how about giving us a little rundown before we move on to questions? 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.360 So, um, with that being said, you you just threw me out there. 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:32.959 All right, I got so I have two two great books that I've been I've worked on for like I want to say over a year now. 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:37.199 One is a children's book, uh, it's Black Cyclone, Black Cyclone 2. 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:38.879 It's pretty much like a prequel. 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.040 I went in and uh revamped it. 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:46.959 And uh with that, I want to say I decided to do a different spin to it. 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:54.319 Uh, I wanted to talk about really like real issues that parents deal with, as well as what children deal with. 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.240 The first book doesn't like this book doesn't have any parents, no adults in it. 00:06:58.319 --> 00:06:59.920 It's all about the children. 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:13.439 Uh this one talks about ADHD and how a child can embrace something that what society would deem as you know a problem with them, but actually uses this as a superpower. 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:14.800 So uh it's pretty cool. 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:21.199 I based it off of my six-year-old now, he just turned six this year, my six-year-old Aiden, and I read it to him. 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:21.839 He loves it. 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:23.839 Like, he's like, Oh daddy, this is so cool. 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:28.399 I even create I showed him the promo videos I did for him, and uh he was like, This is so cool, Dad. 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.079 Can you can we read it again? 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:31.920 I'm like, I'm like, yeah, we can read it again. 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:33.600 For a minute I thought he was lying. 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.879 I was like, I mean, I'm like, you know, don't make me gut punch you, man. 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:37.600 Uh don't lie. 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.199 Um, but no, he was he was really loving it. 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:55.519 So I'm I'm and it's not that my son has been diagnosed with ADHD or anything, but you know, his mom and I have heard uh, you know, certain remarks in regards to like he has so much energy, you know, he with attention and

everything. 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:10.319 And I was like, all right, that bot is a new parent, you know, it bothers you hearing like you know certain stuff, and then you're trying to find out like what's the best way to like what's the best way to talk to him about certain things, what's the best way to guide him with certain things. 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:20.160 And I think the best way for me is always anytime I'm like stuck at something, I always rely on the work, the art, you know. 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.319 Uh and I felt like storytelling, storytelling can get you out of anything, I feel like. 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.680 So that was my way of trying to give back towards that. 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:34.879 And then the next book is uh I want to say it's like I would say like mid-teen to adult line. 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.240 It's uh the second edition to a Vaulted Thrills. 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.679 This is Vaulted Thrills Late Night Show, Late Night Show with Mr. 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:47.679 Mims, and it's about a gentleman who is trying to make his way into the industry. 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:50.639 He's been struggling, and he gets a weird invitation. 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:57.919 And this invitation is by someone who he looks up to like a music mogul, and he's great in his realm. 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:10.639 But when he goes to this dinner, he's offered uh he's offered a he's offered an opportunity to either one take this life or he can continue trying to struggle on his own. 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:17.759 And each chapter goes through a day in the life if he were to take this offering and he has to pretty much make that decision. 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.879 And it I have fun with creating that story. 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.240 That took me about I mean, that was a year and some change. 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:30.240 So I mean, yeah, it was it's been it was it was fun, and I'm looking forward to seeing what people think about it. 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:37.679 Always like a story with that kind of theme, you know, whether it's like a timeline jump or uh like, hey, do you want to try and do this day again and see what happens? 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:45.519 And I will say, when we were at AWP, your artwork for your books caught more attention, I think, than most tables in there. 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:46.399 People are always stopping. 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.080 Like, if you weren't there, like they're wondering where you were, and they just wanted to talk to you. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:51.360 Oh, yeah, they didn't want to talk. 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:54.799 I literally was trying to get emails for you while you were gone and they wouldn't talk to me. 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.600 We're glad this we're still on that made this. 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:02.320 Yeah, it's they're they're awesome. 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:04.080 Thank you, thank you. 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:09.279 I'm actually working on I'm working on like some some final pieces for it. 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.759 Uh it's going through for a late night show with Mr. 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.399 Mims, it's going through his final stage of editing. 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:15.919 I hate editing, uh, by the way. 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:25.600 It's a pain because I find everything and I'm like, uh, and then I even tried to do like I tried to like go in and say, all right, let me see if AI can edit this. 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:28.240 And then AI was just not no. 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.440 I was like, this is gonna replace everything I wrote. 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:32.639 Like, I'm like, no. 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:38.240 So I had to go back in, and then I'm now I'm working with uh I'm working with an editor down in Florida. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.639 So I'm looking forward to seeing what they come back with. 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:41.519 Nice. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:48.399 But yeah, I I I cannot, I I don't put it like this for all you editors out there, bless your heart. 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:49.120 Thank you. 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:49.679 Thank you. 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:52.720 It's generally not sound practice set at your own books. 00:10:52.799 --> 00:11:04.879 We've had several people bring us their books and say, oh, it's been edited multiple times by some friends and some teachers, and like a teacher just because maybe they're good at English or whatever does not make them a qualified editor. 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:09.840 Because they don't know how to really speak the voice that you're trying to give this character. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:10.159 Yeah. 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:14.080 You know, and I think that's the that's the difficult piece right there. 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:20.480 Like, you know, when you give somebody your work and then you get it back, and it's like that character's not the same. 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:33.919 Their their sassiness will not be uh, you know, as it will are their spice, their uh the level of spice that they'll add, like it probably might not read off, you know, the same way. 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:42.720 Yeah, we've I found that with I don't know if the tools have improved since I was poking around checking them out, but it does kind of like water everything down and homogenize everything, right? 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.200 Or it's gonna take a little bit more Ryan out of it. 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:50.720 And that's one thing when I work with the authors, I always say, like, I don't want this to sound like you and Jess wrote this. 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.840 I want this to sound like you wrote this just a little sparklier. 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:55.200 Right, right, right. 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:57.840 And I think that's extremely important, yeah. 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:10.480 You know, because uh you the voice from the character is not not really heard, and then now you're stuck with somebody that is not, you know, from this realm, and it's like, all

right, I don't that's not what I wanted. 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:11.039 Yeah. 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:11.759 Exactly. 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:13.919 Yeah, and you've been self-publishing, right? 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.320 So how how have you figured that out? 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:18.080 I'm still figuring it out. 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:20.960 I'm still figuring it out. 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:25.120 Uh but no, I just have I I work with like some pretty cool people. 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:35.919 One of my I say one of my closest people I work with is I want to say I give him he's all I always give him creative, I call it creative direction. 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.679 And that's Demetrius Diaz with DG uh DG Company. 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:46.720 He like when anytime I go in, you know, he'll find like a really good editor that'll be able to help out with the editing. 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:54.480 Uh not only that, but also when it comes out with any of the the pictures or anything, he does the the final touches with the pictures and everything like that. 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.320 So uh we have a good team. 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:02.399 Um and one thing, our rule of thumb, like when we work together, is uh no ego, you know. 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.320 Uh we have no room for ego. 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:08.240 Like ego serves no purpose when you're talking about creating, you know. 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:08.720 Exactly. 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.360 We're talking about creative, uh, creative vision. 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:12.960 You know, you have no time for that. 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:19.440 You want to make sure that you can hear some really solid feedback, something that's gonna take you to where you you need to be. 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:20.399 Yeah, exactly. 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.679 And it it's kind of hard to take that criticism at first, right? 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:24.480 Or anything like that. 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:31.519 And it's you know, I know when I first started editing, I'd always be like, oh gosh, but now it's just like these are just suggestions, you can take them or not, you know. 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.840 It's like let's just let's just we're a team here or herd rather, right, Laura? 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:36.320 Yes. 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:44.000 Uh when I let me tell you, uh, when I first got feedback, it was like, you know, I hear it and I'm like, all right. 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:45.120 You know. 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:47.200 Okay. 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:50.480 You know, in my mind, I'm like, yo, so you so you right. 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:55.200 You you and then I had to like kind of check myself, like, you know, I think you're doing a little bit too much, man. 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.600 So I was like, all right, you know, um, it's okay, it's okay. 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.720 Uh they're like, you it sound like it, I think you are you okay? 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.639 Like you are you bothered by any of this? 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:04.240 Like, do you mind if I continue? 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:05.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:06.240 No, no problem. 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.960 So I mean taking that feedback is always hard. 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.200 It's like or learn learning to accept it, it sounds like so. 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.159 When did when did you start changing that mindset? 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.320 Oh, like as far as like taking the feedback and yeah. 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:21.600 Yeah. 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:28.960 I'm I want to say it started when with my it was a web series I did in 2018, deleted reality. 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:47.519 It was on mental health, and I did like a I did a spin on it where it was it was like a psychological thriller, but it was talking about the seven but it's the seven deadly sins and how like if you're dealing with mental health issues, like how that can be like one of the demons that you you know you pretty much you battle. 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.240 Uh a gluttony, sloth, all that good stuff. 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.120 And one of the actors was he was a pain. 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:58.159 But the critiques he gave, I had to learn to be, I had to learn to understand that. 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:00.320 Um sometimes it's good to hear it, you know. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:26.080 Although I didn't really agree with some of the stuff he said, I mean, I was able to kind of like because it was six episodes with this person, so I'm directing you and I'm talking to you, but it you know, you're reading the script, and you have to be able to understand this in a certain way, and I need that to really be understood, but I also need to also try to understand you too, so we can meet to get this project done the right way. 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:35.919 So I started being able to welcome the feedback, and then uh when I wrote a book, I haven't I never released it, but when I wrote the book, I was like, all right, you know what? 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:39.600 They provided me with feedback, and that feedback meant everything. 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.080 They tore my book to shreds, and I almost cried. 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:53.840 It was one of those like I thought I was doing so good because this is my first time moving from scripting to manuscript, and it changed everything because I thought I knew it what I was doing. 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.279 I did I had no clue, and she had to put me in my place, and yeah, I've still learned. 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:04.399 It's hard though, but it's like dipping a toe and getting ready for it to be like out in the whole world, right? 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:08.720 I remember I got some feedback the other day and I was like, ooh, ooh, and I was real indignant about it. 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.000 And then I sat and I was like, No, she's right, she's totally right. 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:22.080 Like, yeah, after you get over that little initial

kind of like, but it gets yeah, yeah, and it, you know, it gets easier, and then you get to, and hopefully we can like hear the good things as well, too, right? 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.159 Like when all the love comes in and stuff too, we can take those in and soak them up, right? 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:26.320 Right. 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:31.120 But I do think all of this is important for for writers and stuff, especially the feedback conversation. 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:41.600 It's it's so much to start putting yourself out there when you start sharing your story, whether you're in it it's fiction or non-fiction or not, being able to take the feedback before it's finished and then the feedback afterwards. 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.519 So, what's your been your experience with that? 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:49.279 So I stopped showing work to people before it's finished. 00:16:49.440 --> 00:17:00.240 I I only show now like if I have a rough, but not like I might talk about all right, so I'm big on like housing, I mean movies and shows, so I'm just gonna give a reference. 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:02.879 You both familiar with the TV show House? 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:04.400 I'm familiar with it, never saw it. 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.680 Okay, so I think he's um I forgot the guy's name. 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.000 I think it's Hugh Laurie, if I'm not mistaken. 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:33.599 But so it's a house theory or syndrome where what he will do is he'll talk about something, he'll talk about a case, and then he would bounce it around like you know, his uh the the doctors or nurses that works underneath him, and he will allow them to talk about what the problem that he presented to them, and then he would be able to come up with a solution. 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.279 So I kind of do that with with an idea I might have. 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:49.599 Like I might come up with an idea and say, I think about writing this, and then I might present it to like maybe three of my boys, you know, present it to somebody at work, and you know, kind of see what they come up with. 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.319 Give me something, and then I I I take that. 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:53.440 Oh, it sounds good. 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:54.400 All right, all right, I like that. 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:55.759 And then I'll I'll jot it down. 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:01.440 I'm always putting it down in my my notepad on my phone, and then I'll come back to it, and then I'll look at it again. 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:05.759 All right, I like that, and then I add this on to it, and then I put this into it, okay, cool. 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:16.319 And then I start writing, and then I'll talk about I don't show what I do, but I will talk about what I've done so far, and it's kind of like a it's a it's a test. 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:22.079 It's for me to be able to see if this is gonna be receptive, like if people gonna be able to receive this, you know. 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.799 Is this good is this even a good topic to talk about? 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:36.319 But then the more they give me, and if I'm really getting like a real strong feeling like this is this is something, I go full throttle and I stop talking about it, I just start doing it, and then before you know it, I got a rough. 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:47.359 Well, I mean, you know, before we start a recording today, haven't seen you in a minute, so we're all excited and got to chit-chatting, and you dropped a little bit of that on me and had a sneak attack into the feels there for a second. 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:48.319 Oh my gosh. 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:49.839 So, yeah, there's your feedback. 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.200 It was wonderful, beautiful. 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.559 Yeah, no, I mean, thank you for yeah, wow, yeah. 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:55.279 Yes, thank you. 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.240 So so yeah, you have you've done a lot. 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:12.960 We could talk to you a lot longer about all this stuff, but what what type of advice do you have for other people who maybe want to get into something in in the genres you're working in where there's a lot of like need for graphic design and because you gotta partner with a lot of people to do these things, right? 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:25.440 Like, whereas like if I write a novel or something that doesn't have illustrations, it's just my story, I I can pretty much do that project myself, but but you gotta find uh illustrators or graphic designers and things like that. 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:31.599 Like, how do you what kind of advice do you have to someone who's who's about to start their first like science fiction or something? 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:33.279 Trust your process. 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:38.480 That sounds really corny, but trust your process, your process is your process, and ego out. 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:41.359 Don't don't ego, you have no time for ego. 00:19:41.519 --> 00:20:00.480 And I would say this is gonna probably sound corny too, but be kind to yourself throughout it all because you may try to partner with somebody and they may think your idea is not worth you know, the world hearing it or worth talking about, but and then you may internalize it and start being hard on yourself. 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:02.640 Don't do that, you know, be kind to yourself. 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:06.960 You are daring to do something that a lot of people don't do. 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:19.839 You there's so many people out there I've talked to that tell me about story ideas and they're afraid to take the first step, which is put pen to paper or type of type of sentence. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:24.240 The fact that you sat down and you wrote a page, be proud of that. 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:28.240 The fact that you wrote a chapter, be very damn proud of that. 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:32.079 And when you finish your book, tell everybody, you know. 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:38.720

Tell everybody, be excited about it, you know, believe in it and know that that story came from somewhere. 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.720 Stories don't come from stories come from don't come from nothing. 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:55.440 It comes from you actually breathing and you living, you know, you saw something, you felt something, and now it's you being able to give that to the world so they can experience that too. 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:56.559 You know what I mean? 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:01.039 So don't rob the world of that, you know, don't rob yourself of that. 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:07.119 Give that, you know, give that gift to the world so they can enjoy that experience with you. 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.400 That's my I would say that's my best piece of advice. 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:12.000 Yeah, exactly. 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:21.599 I mean, I've been you know working on a children's book for a couple years, 10, and you know, so yeah, and it's just like especially with the level of illustrations that you have. 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:27.519 I mean, those those are intense and beautiful and just really rich, rich, rich illustrations. 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:35.839 So it's not like I I mean for mine I could do some children's drawings and it would be perfect, but yours are like movie quality, they're gorgeous, yeah. 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:36.720 Thank you. 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:43.279 I mean, whether it's I mean, if you took 10 years or you're taking 10 years, I mean, when it comes out, trust me, it's gonna be damn good. 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:54.240 Uh anytime, like you know, you have people that you know you the fact that you're writing versus you're just talking about it, like you you're writing, then you know you're in a good space. 00:21:54.400 --> 00:22:06.640 It's a difference if you're talking about oh, I'm writing and do you just talk about your thoughts, like oh I'm I'm Writing, but you've never put anything on paper, and then you go and you give a whole lot of critiques to everyone else. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:10.160 Um, but you don't do it, like you're in the field, you're in the game. 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:12.160 So yeah, it's that's it. 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.240 You're just waiting to waiting to finish it. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:15.039 Exact exactly. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:19.440 Yeah, you know, you gotta walk the walk and talk the talk or whatever it is that they say. 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:20.319 Yeah. 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:21.440 Alright. 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.559 Well, I will say this because I mean I shared with you all. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:26.000 Should I yeah, I can share it. 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:34.960 So my next my well, the books that I'm releasing right now, they should the goal is to push them out for uh late night show with Mr. 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:35.359 Mims. 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:39.200 I wanna have that released by uh October 31st of this year. 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:45.519 Like around Halloween time, and then November 15th for Black Cyclone 2. 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.240 Now I am working on a book right now. 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:54.079 I think I told you two ladies prior to, but for anybody that is watching, it is called I'm Not Ready. 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.440 So he's just not ready for the synopsis yet. 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:02.079 Sponsored by Kleenex. 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:05.279 Literally, literally picked up the Kleenex. 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:16.400 So this is about uh this story is about I lost my dad in in April of this year, and I decided to continue a book that was inspired by him. 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.519 My father battled with drug addiction when I was younger. 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:26.559 He also had cancer, you know, he beat cancer, uh, you know, and it was his time to just transition. 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:39.759 But I started a book and I was able to speak with him about it, and when he passed, I decided to go ahead and finish that book, and that's allowing me to go through the stages of grief. 00:23:40.079 --> 00:24:17.599 So this book is about a young gentleman who is trying to keep his father in his life, and in order for him to do so, he takes a drug that gets him to be in another world, in another dimension, where he can spend time with his father, and in that world, something happens where his father is abducted in that world, and in order for him to find peace, he has to go through all stages of grief, and he has to come to the realization that his father is gone and make peace with it before time runs out. 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.160 And that was heavily inspired by my father. 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.839 Like I said, it's called I'm Not Ready. 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.519 I don't think I'm gonna change the name of that. 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:32.480 I'm stuck with I'm not ready because I'm still not ready, but at the same time, hopefully, by the time that is the book is done, I will be ready. 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:47.599 I won't ever let my father go, but I will be ready to face the fact that you know I won't be able to have those conversations with him like I used to, but I understand that he's in a better place, and yeah, I'm grateful that he was in my life. 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:55.200 I really like the title because you know it's like I'm not ready to say goodbye, I'm not ready for this, I'm not ready to leave this realm. 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:58.319 I you know, there's just it's there's so much behind it. 00:24:59.200 --> 00:24:59.359 Right. 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:00.319 Yeah, right. 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:01.839 Yeah, I do too. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:08.480 So we're not ready to let you go from this podcast, but no, we don't have all we love you. 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:15.759 We will uh see you again on the 27th for the Brooklyn Book Festival, which by the time this comes out will have already happened. 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.799 So check the socials for some photos

and stuff from that. 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.519 Definitely uh I'm looking forward to that. 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:26.079 And then we have one final question before we sure let you go, Jess. 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:32.960 If you could sit down and have a chat with anyone, non-relative, because we all know we'd want our dads, right? 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:33.440 Uh-huh. 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:40.079 That who's either no longer on this earthy plane, any anybody, living or dead, who would you want to sit down and have a chat with? 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:43.119 Man, that is a loaded question. 00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:43.680 Right? 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:45.279 We get to answer it every month. 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.000 So yeah, I I'm sticking with Jim Henson. 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:48.400 Yeah. 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.000 So I'm gonna be honest. 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:55.119 This is gonna I'm I'm not I I uh like I I'm even stuttering saying it. 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.440 I I so I'm not a religious person, right? 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.480 Um I'm not gonna say I'm a spiritual spiritual person either. 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.079 I do believe in God, and that is the person I want to talk to. 00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:09.039 Not that I want to square up with like not that I want to square up with God or nothing like that. 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.240 Like it's not like that. 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:17.200 It's just when I really think about it, I'm I'm very curious as to I know we have free will. 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:21.680 I know that you know we're blessed in a lot of different ways and we're all made uniquely. 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:34.960 But some stuff I do have a lot of questions off of, and I would like a greater understanding as to why certain things happen or why things happen the way they do. 00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:36.880 Like what's the mechanics behind it? 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.680 You know, what's the motivation behind it? 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:50.799 You know, and why would this particular thing happen, or why wasn't I able to do this then, or why did I have to go through this particular lesson to learn this, you know? 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:55.440 So that would be that I I have tons of questions I would ask God. 00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:13.119 Uh that would probably be the only person or because it's not really a person, you know, it's a being, but that would that's the only being I would really like to talk to and understand uh, like I say, the mechanics behind everything, the decision making behind everything. 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:21.200 Even like how do eyeballs work or how does cell phone like how do these particles travel through space and come to us, right? 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:28.160 I mean, if if you can to bring a plus one, let me know because you know I'll let y'all have your time. 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.640 But yeah, no, that's that's a that's a good one. 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:31.359 Yeah, you're a deep. 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.200 It's a lot of questions, it's a lot of questions. 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.160 Like, I don't even think I'll be it, won't even be stage fright. 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:39.920 It'll just be like, all right, go. 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:47.519 So remember when I like, but it's this the whole thought behind it, like you know, universal questions, the whole nah. 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.279 Like, I would, I would, I'm I'm not gonna lie, I would geek out in a moment like that. 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.079 I would geek out. 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:53.680 Have you seen Uncle Buck? 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:54.559 No. 00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:55.680 Okay, you should watch it. 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.440 There's a poll board and Macaulay Culkin just hammers John Candy with questions. 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.559 He's like, What are you doing? 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:01.119 Why are you doing? 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:01.759 Why aren't you married? 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:02.240 What is this? 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.559 And he's just like, it's it's it's a classic. 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:05.759 I think you'd like it. 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.240 All right, on the to-do list, Uncle Buck. 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.000 All right, Ryan, thank you so much. 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.519 We know you're super busy. 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:12.960 Uh it's it's hilarious. 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:15.599 Little Macaulay is pre-home alone. 00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:17.440 So good. 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:19.680 Where uh thank you for making the time. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:20.720 Yeah, yeah. 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.440 Right now, I'm actually on IG. 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.920 I'm revamping a I'm doing a new IG. 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:31.039 It's called Skies No Limits, and I'll I'll I can actually drop that in the chat somewhere. 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:35.039 Also, my current TikTok, I'm not really active on it. 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:46.960 I'm currently uh, but I would say by the time these books come out, I will be heavily active because I'm currently in the process of creating visual content for both books, so that is called Rybri. 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.839 R Y B R I. 00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.559 Um, and that's on TikTok. 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:58.880 And yeah, my Facebook is just Ryan Bryson and LinkedIn is the same thing. 00:28:59.119 --> 00:28:59.839 Awesome. 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:06.240 Also, r brandingenter.com is my website, and I will be uploading. 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:16.640 I would say by the end of this month, I'll be uploading more content on there for like promo videos and content in order for for the current books that are coming out. 00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:17.599 Awesome, awesome. 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.519 Well, and we'll have all that in the notes, right? 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.119 Yeah, not a problem, not a problem. 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.079 Thank you, ladies, for having me. 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:22.640

Thank you so much. 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.839 It's so good to see you. 00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:24.720 Yes, yes. 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:25.519 I'll see you all soon. 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.720 See you soon, definitely. 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:27.359 Bye. 00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:27.839 Bye. 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:35.359 Uh Laura, I don't know if you heard, but but um some people were asking, is it okay to get like Amazon reviews and whatnot from your friends? 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.160 Like, you know, as my shirt says, homies help homies always. 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.680 So perfect, yes, we get by with a little help from our friends, right? 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.480 Usually, like usually, yes, yeah, yeah. 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.960 We gotta we gotta help each other out with this kind of stuff. 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:47.599 Yeah. 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.200 That's a great question. 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.759 I know some of our authors after they publish are always asking that, and it's tricky. 00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:00.480 So the answer is yes, no, and it depends, you know, where you're talking about, what kind of review you're talking about. 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:06.640 And the the last question I got about this was was like, Oh, my friends can't leave me a review, so why should I bother asking them? 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.000 And that's that's just not the case. 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:13.279 So you don't want anyone leaving you a disingenuous review for the first part. 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:18.240 Like if they didn't actually read the book or at least skim it for you, they shouldn't be leaving you a review. 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:28.319 Amazon does apparently have the data, knowledge, whatever, to know if you're connected with someone somewhere, especially if they're in the same household, that review is not gonna fly. 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.839 So your spouse isn't gonna be able to leave you a review on Amazon. 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.240 It technically, and of course, this is a black box. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:39.599 There's no real they don't have any published documentation on exactly what counts as family and friends. 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.720 But you're not also not gonna get your book like delisted. 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.400 So if you have someone who generally wants to leave your review, let them try. 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.519 And if they don't, they'll just decide not to show it or not. 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:56.799 They also don't like that and you have to consider their side of it a little bit with bots and things like that now. 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:08.240 People can artificially fill their book with fake reviews, and the only way for them to filter is kind of has some casualties along the way where they act that they take out some actual genuine reviews. 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.319 So you can combat that in a lot of different ways, and one of them is getting some reviews on Goodreads instead. 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:23.039 You know, Goodreads doesn't have that cap, so you could have anybody, but then you're limited to just people you know who have a Goodreads account, which are probably less than people who have Amazon. 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:46.960 But you also can quote them on your website, you can use them in your social media posts, so you can also just ask people to give you a review you could use somewhere else, and really focus on expand like getting genuine reviews from strangers, but you know, like okay, I can't have my friends give me the Amazon reviews, but where can I get other reviews and start focusing on the there's different websites where you can trade reviews with people, you can clearly you can buy them. 00:31:47.039 --> 00:32:00.960 There's different caveats and things to that, but you know, for Amazon specifically, like figuring out where can I go get reviews from people I don't know, and then just trying to just expand your reader base and continuing to ask for them, I think is the hardest part for authors. 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.279 A lot of them get a few author a few reviews in the beginning and then they just stop asking. 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:05.839 Yeah. 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:26.079 I mean, and like you said, there's such good, I hate to use the word content, but really things to put out there where because I will read the reviews on things, and I'm glad that Amazon is kind of putting a little bit more focus on that to a certain extent, because I've seen a lot of reviews that were the you know, same review verbatim from all these different users, and it's hard to tell if something's good. 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:35.359 I know I've left a review on someone's book that I worked with, and I said, you know, full disclosure, I did work on this book, but it was a verified purchase. 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.599 I did purchase it, and I said, and you know, so do you know if it made it up there? 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:40.160 I don't know. 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.319 It's still there, been yours. 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:43.359 There's also that. 00:32:43.519 --> 00:33:00.079 My you know, we did a Beastie Bestie story on Brook Thorn Naturals, and I know a few years ago they as a product company had half of their reviews taken down overnight because they did like a full behind-the-scenes sweep of any reviews they thought were not real, and they they took out some real ones along with it. 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.960 So, you know, you don't you don't own these things, and so that becomes the tricky part. 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:17.039 So you want to keep trying to collect also some and if and if they're there, maybe also take a screenshot every once in a while because if they disappear for some reason, and I don't even know what those reasons might be, but you'd want to have them. 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:18.559 Yeah, exact exactly. 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:33.039 I mean, you know, I don't know if you've well

hear me bringing it back to video gaming again, but there's a big thing going on with PlayStation right now where you don't actually own the digital games that you're buying, you're just like leasing them per se, so they can choose at any time to revoke that. 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:38.240 So it is you know, that's why I'm physical media, taking pictures of things, keeping records of stuff. 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.279 Just start a little folder on drive or something and plop them all in there. 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.680 Yeah, and keep ones that you get in the email and and stuff like that for different uses. 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.839 But that's sort of the rundown on that. 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.400 And then BC's besties corner. 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.960 We have never talked about scratch. 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:55.279 Oh my god. 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.839 So you know, this is a Besti Besties podcast podcast. 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.039 So we're talking about books, but we're also talking about bestie stories. 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:14.320 So Michelle, you know, one of our other besties, her son's bestie just texted her from his phone the other day and said, We just found this really cute litter trained kitten. 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.480 Can we bring him home and keep him at your house? 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:17.840 And she said, Nope. 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:22.559 So, with that being said, I'll let you scratch the surface of what we were talking about. 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.719 Well, we didn't ask first, we just did it. 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:26.480 And it was forgiveness permission. 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.360 It wasn't a kitten, it was a miniature pincher. 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:30.480 That cost how much? 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.480 Like$900 back then. 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.800 I don't think I thought it was like$150. 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.679 I thought it was more like$500. 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:38.320 I don't know. 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:39.199 Who knows? 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:40.079 We just ran through a hundred. 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:41.440 What did we even get it? 00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:42.480 It was a breeder. 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:53.679 I remember there was other dogs, but I don't know what we thought we were going to graduate high school and then move in together, and we would just for a short time the dog would live with our parents or whatever. 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.239 And then and then somewhere along the line, we didn't tell our parents we got the dog. 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.920 If we brought it anywhere, we'd tell uh the our parents it was the other person's dog. 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:02.559 Exactly. 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:02.960 Oh my god. 00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:14.239 And then and then I remember we took it to my older brother Rhett's apartment, and someone said, Oh, it's good to like leave a ticking clock in there, so it sounds like a heartbeat, and then he breaks his leg or

something. 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:15.280 Oh my gosh. 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.920 So we had to take him to the vet and get his leg fixed. 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:19.599 Yes, and that did not slow him down. 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:21.519 He no, not at all. 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.639 He had that cute little spike collar for him because we were so punk rock. 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:29.119 Oh, yeah, we were gonna train him to attack on the word pink, which I think we kind of did. 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:35.360 But yeah, I would he was so little, I would sneak him into uh put him in a bag and bring him into public so when he worked in the bakery. 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:43.039 And yeah, we bake we essentially made him fearless because we were doing all these crazy things with him, and then that just created a monster. 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:44.639 Yeah, but he lived. 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.719 I mean, do you remember how old he was? 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.119 Like what 15, 17? 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:54.320 No, he actually I don't think he actually lived very that long because my parents kept feeding him junk food. 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.480 So we had Germany, yeah. 00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:07.519 So Sasha would bark at people, like you come to our door, a family door, and Sasha would be barking, and then you'd open the door, and there was a five-pound, six-pound dog ready to tear your ankles off. 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.920 They're expecting to see a German shepherd. 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:20.079 And um but my parents would give Sasha and him the same amount of junk, so they would give Sasha a couple of French fries, and they would give him a couple of French fries, and he just became this little football. 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:21.840 He was a chunk for sure. 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.679 And I think that that short actually shortened his life a little bit. 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.280 But he lived happily. 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:34.880 Yeah, no, I mean they went with him to North Carolina and the neither end of us actually ended up owning him. 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:44.159 I'm kind of I'm kind of I'm kind of doing the same thing over here with Dottie and Frank because they're he's like a third of the size of her, and Frank just wants to follow me everywhere. 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:56.960 He's my little beastie besti, and then he'll abandon his treat, and Dottie's such an opportunist, she's like zoink and takes it, and I'm like, you can't keep like you know, she's hip dysplasia, so it's like I'm trying to be mindful with her way, but she's such a chow hound. 00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:57.840 Dogs are the best. 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:07.360 I actually just was at the pet store today for my beastie besties, and um they told me about a really cool dog rescue that I'm gonna start volunteering with here called Soul Dogs, I believe. 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.719 And they rescue dogs off the reservations and bring them in, and they just need all sorts of volunteers and things like that. 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:20.000 And then there's another one called Peppers that's like a dog hospice, and you can go snuggle the puppies and like my mom would totally be into that. 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:20.880 She's always crazy. 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:21.599 Bring her out. 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:22.719 She's always pet sitting. 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.679 The oldest dogs are blind, they're walking around her house with diapers and like rocking into the walls. 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.880 I'm like, mom, tell her to come on out for a while. 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:32.400 She can stay here and go volunteers. 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:35.280 Taking care of the scenery animals, it's crazy. 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.760 Oh, so she would love this place. 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:38.480 She would. 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.159 She should start a place of her own. 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:42.239 I'm not giving her these ideas. 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.679 But uh Beastie Bestie stories, we want to hear from you if you have one. 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:54.400 You've started a business with your mother, your sister, your brother, your best friend, or you just did something really cool and adventurous together. 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.639 There's a form on the website, super easy, and then we will share it with the world on here. 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.199 Maybe you drove around the country in an RV with your cats. 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.239 Tell us that story. 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:02.800 Right. 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.280 Those are a different kind of beastie bustie, but yes. 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:06.159 Yeah, exactly. 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.360 So that's that's our show, folks. 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.199 Thanks everyone. 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:20.880 So as always, be yourself, run wild, take leaps, and don't forget to high five your homies and pen your pages Until we meet again. 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:21.840 Bye.