บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The Sensitivity You Were Taught to Hide — Melisa Monti (Part 1)

going to be very much an opportunity to, for you to slow down, to soften, to listen beyond the mind and maybe even to hear parts of yourself that have been waiting to be heard this whole time. And so we are going to be asking Melissa to be doing a channeling today. Her process is that we prepare some questions prior and then she's going to come into a state and we will experience her channeling. So let's bring her onto the podcast now. Welcome Melissa to the podcast. It's so lovely to have you here. Melisa: Thank you so much. very excited and thank you for the invitation. Kait Tregenza: So have an interesting journey. we have a really exciting, I think really exciting time plan today that we've prepared some questions to be asking into, the Akashic Records to get your personal coded answers to those questions, which will be really exciting. But because you yourself are such an interesting and beautiful person, I just wanted to start with you before we go in there, because not only I think it will make lovely context for people, but it's also really important, I think, to learn from you and your personal wisdom and the journey that you're leading. And so I love that you're so raw and open about this on social media. I think it's really medicinal for other people to read and to hear and to understand that it's not always this yellow brick road to freedom, happiness, know, bliss, high frequency. And I think you do a really good job of distinguishing between having really real challenging ⁓ 3D issues that you deal with in a day to day basis ⁓ while you're a high frequency being, ⁓ while you are someone who can access high frequency and that you're coded to access high frequency ⁓ and that just because you are high frequency being like this whole spiritual ⁓ belief system that if you're in a high frequency, then your life is perfect. It couldn't be farther from the truth, right? So I think ⁓ it's really great to start just at your childhood, the challenges that you have gone through in your teens and early twenties to come through the other side and just tell that story of the lead up into the first reading that changed a lot for you. And then I'll pause you and we'll go on to the next part. Let's start with the beginning, because it's a very good place to start. Melisa: ⁓ Yes, for sure. ⁓ So ⁓ first of all, for anyone that ⁓ doesn't know who I am, my name is Melissa. I work as a spiritual guide and a Akashic Records channeler. I will say I work. It's not who I am. I was originally born in Argentina and part of my journey of how I came to where I am right now started because I had a very nomadic upbringing. So we started to travel with my family since I was nine months old. So I've lived in a lot of places and I moved a lot since I was very young. We lived in Berlin, we lived in Chile, we lived in the Netherlands where I grew up most of the biggest part of my life. And so and for the rest of my life, I also continued traveling and moving around. So for the first few years of my life, my identity was like a big, big topic. I know, like for all of us growing up, identity is a big topic. But for me, it was really about, OK, I'm always the alien, I'm always a different one. I'm always someone who had different experiences than the people that were all their life in the same place. And that came with a lot of challenges, especially the one for me, which was I began to fit in. I began to fold and to be to become like a chameleon, right? To adapt to my environment everywhere I went so that I could just fit in. I could be accepted. that I could have a sense of, okay, I belong here or yeah, people don't judge me for being different. I always say until I was 11, that's when I moved from the Netherlands to Chile. That was like the biggest marking point for me because before that in the Netherlands, I was a very free child. I loved to be in the forest. like a very kind of nerdy girl, even though from the outside, I wouldn't be like called a nerd, but I was collecting that insects and like a tin, like an aluminium tin, and my grandfather would come visit me and bring me special insects, more exotic ones from Argentina. And I would love to go to the library and read about books of prehistory and historical times and Egypt and I was always just fascinated with like the mysteries of life, how things worked. And I always just had like this wild imagination. I was like only child for like the first nine years of my life. And when we moved from the Netherlands to Chile, it's like we should, we switched from a, from like a very free childhood where I could be whoever I wanted to be and had time to be a child also after, after school. And I could just explore to. being in an environment in which you are very much molded to, you have to become someone that we expect you to be. Kait Tregenza: we expect it Why did that happen in Chile? Melisa: So Chile is a very conservative country or society. So I was also because I was speaking Dutch until I was 11 and my Spanish, my parents are also from Argentina. So I was speaking Spanish at home, but my Spanish was like really rough. so I was we moved to a Spanish speaking country. And so it was really already a challenge for like the language part and I have to adapt to that. But because of that also they placed me in an English school, which was a private school. it was like, ⁓ of course, ⁓ have a uniform. And there was all of these rules that ⁓ that I didn't have in the Netherlands that, for example, every time a teacher would come into the to the classroom, it was like, have to stand up and you have to say good morning, Mr. ⁓ Whatever we have to say like the school hymn and the national anthem and everything. It was like all of these rules of like, oh, so you cannot dye your hair, you cannot wear any piercings. mean, at 11, I was not doing but like later on in school, you cannot paint your nails, cannot do like they were really strict about everything, especially on

school. But also society level is like they expect you already when you're like 11, 12, you have to decide what you're gonna do for the rest of your life. Like you're gonna become a doctor, you're gonna become a lawyer, you're gonna like there was like all of these pathways of what was accepted and expected. from you and like in society at school and everywhere. And for me, I always wanted to study fashion design. So that was already like, oh my God, like, you're going to be so poor, you're going to like, going to starve. That's not a career, lalala. All of these things. And of course, like as a child, like you're also entering this age in which you're like, have like these groups of like, popular girls and not popular girls and so on. And so it's also a lot about like, belonging, all these years of your life. So it was like a combination of all of this. And so in the meantime, I was moving and I had to adapt to a new culture, to a new language, to new friends, to new society, to new routines. My parents also were working way longer hours. So was at home more with my sister, was born in the Netherlands and We started to get also nanny to take care of us and to cook and everything because my parents were working all of these hours. So a lot of things changed. And like most of us, like I didn't have parents that were like very emotionally aware. So as a first born child, someone that's really was like a good girl, you know, I had good grades. was always, had like, I gave no problems. I was always really easy. And so I just put all of these emotions of everything that was happening within me just inside myself. didn't want to cause more chaos, more stress. In the meantime, also when we moved, both of the parents of my mom passed away. So was a lot of stress for my mom. So it was a lot, a lot of things in this change and in this phase. So I started to suppress a lot of the emotions that I was feeling. and just hold it because I also didn't know how to express it or what to do with it. They didn't have like safe space to talk about it. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Melisa: And so at the same time, now looking back until that age, maybe 12, 13, I always had like a vivid imagination. I used to have like a imaginary friend when I was little, I used to... like be in nature and just feel so at home because it was the only place that I didn't have to explain myself. I didn't have to like put myself into a label, into a box of this is who I am. This is my culture. This is where I come from. Like I didn't have to explain who I was and I could just be there. And I was just like, okay, I belong here. So in those moments, now I, with the awareness that I have, I could already communicate with trees, communicate with the birds. because I was always observing and listening. My mom and my both of my parents, are like working science. So they always taught me like, when we go into nature, we pick up a stone and there's like a whole ecosystem, whole universe living underneath

the stone. Like I was already like very much into that. But so when we moved and when like at 12, 13, when it really started to become like a lot of suppression of my emotions is when I started to block all of that out. I also started to like have these appearances of like entities in the middle of the night, looking at me, talking to me in my ear, all of these things. And I was so scared. So Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Melisa: everything happened at the same time. And then so. Kait Tregenza: Tell me about these entities before we move on from that. What were they like? Who were they? Melisa: I don't know exactly if they were negative. I look now back, I know that a lot of the times when we have fear of something that we don't know, we already place it like it's something negative when most of times it's not necessarily a negative entity. It can be your spirit guides, can be ancestors, it can be so many different things. But in that moment, I just was scared because it just felt like a shadow that I couldn't identify. I, they appeared also like in the middle of the night and I couldn't go back to sleep and they would especially like the whispers in my ear that was like the scariest part for me. Kait Tregenza: Do remember what they looked like or what they said? Melisa: no, not exactly, because I was just so afraid. just remember I was so afraid. Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Melisa: just wanted to be like under, you know, when you were like, I don't want to even put my feet out of the bed. Kait Tregenza: I do know. I do know. And I think it's a very specific kind of fear. It's a very, it's not, it's not like I'm scared of some monsters that might cut. Like, it's not like that kind of kid fear. It's like, this is like, this is here. There are presences Melisa: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Kait Tregenza: in my room and they're huge. Melisa: 100 % you can feel them because I could feel like the weight of them like standing on my bed and like, you know, like, like there was like presence of like someone pressuring into me, like it was really, really there. But yeah, it was just scary. It was just very scary and I didn't know what to do or how to react to it. So and it was Kait Tregenza: When I tried to deal with, when you said like, maybe I'll go back and like, you know, the fear is like this program because it's like, this is the, this amorphous thing that I don't know what it is. wasn't until I was in my late twenties, maybe early thirties that I actually went back to my childhood room to actually go, okay, maybe I need to find out who these beings were, are. And that was really useful because I could actually put that fear out of my body after that. Melisa: Hmm, that's so interesting. Yeah, because nowadays I still have them. mean, I still my house is like the portal of so many different spirits. But especially at night, right? I'm like, between Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Melisa: dreams, you open your eyes and there's like entities and spirits and everything. But it's not scary anymore, because when Kait Tregenza: No, but that fear that you feel as a kid, does get locked in your body. And it helped me to actually feel more open after that Melisa: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: to outside help. Melisa: Yeah, that's amazing. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. But I also had two different kinds of friends visiting. I had these blue guys that I, I think I've worked out who they are since, but, that, I always called them the blue ones and the gray ones and the gray ones were so terrifying. And they are. Melisa: you Kait Tregenza: they are. So going back for me really helped me also stop second guessing myself and also dislodge a lot of the fear that was trapped in the body. And that's like that paralytic fear because like you said, I want to hide under the covers. Anyway, continue with your story. Melisa: No, but it's very interesting because also for me that translator later on I realized like I would say like 80 % of my life I always had nightmares and I didn't realize that until later on that I have more nightmares than good dreams and Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Melisa: so it was it was always there it was always present. But anyways when this started to happen, when I started to suppress everything, it's like, okay, this was out of fear. I just blocked it away. I blocked my emotions because it's very connected. The way that you can connect with with these subtle energies is through the sense of feeling. So when you suppress your feelings, it's also like this is also going to be suppressed in some way. So from around the age of 13 is when I started to develop mental health issues. So I started first with having an eating disorder, had anorexia and I started to have depression really bad. even with anorexia, it's very funny, well funny, it's interesting that it showed itself to me like this disease was like also an external being. It was like a shadow that was always walking with me. It's like a voice that was talking to me, you know, Kait Tregenza: I'm just talking to him. Melisa: about like, don't do this, you're doing this wrong and do this. And it was literally not even in my head. It was like almost like a shadow that was always with me going everywhere. Kait Tregenza: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense in the context Melisa: So. Kait Tregenza: of your life up into that point. That makes a lot of sense and that helps me even contextualize a lot of mental health in a different way. Melisa: Yeah. And for me also with everything that was changing, how I understand it right now. And I've also helped people, especially teenage girls that are dealing also with eating disorders. Having an eating disorder is also a way of having a certain sense of control in your life when everything in my life was out of control. So it's not about the food at all, but it's about the sense of control that I could have in my life. was the only thing that I had control over and I felt like. So I started to develop that around the age of 13. And it's like little by little, I

started to get into this very dark cloud that Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Melisa: I just seem I couldn't get out of. Yeah, I went to therapy. went to they of course, they put me on antidepressants. They did all of these things. And of course, little by little, you feel like You can get out of the worst part, but it was never like went away. Then later on at 16, I started to get my first boyfriend and that also started to become very dense, very toxic right away. So it was my first relationship and it turned out to be a violent relationship, abusive relationship. So by the age of 17, I was also dealing with that. Then I moved to Buenos Aires to to study, so I studied fashion design, I completed that. Kait Tregenza: Foo, foo, foo. Melisa: But still, of course, everything just carrying all of this in my baggage. And then I started to deal also with different situations of sexual abuse. So all of this started to add into my my baggage and into the backpack that I was carrying and still not really dealing with my emotions, not really facing what I was doing. I was just like, Just another thing, okay, we just keep on going. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Melisa: Like, you know, it's life, we just keep on going. And this was until the point in 2018, I was 22 or 23. And I just had moved from Argentina, Buenos Aires, to back to the Netherlands, to Amsterdam, because I specialized in sustainability. And so... I went to the Netherlands to do that. And my parents, they were still in Chile. So we were an ocean away. I was 22, 23, living on the other side of the world. And then it was just like so heavy to carry this alone. And especially, I don't know if you've ever been to the Netherlands in winter or you've ever seen it, but it's like very... very hard to transition the winters there because it's literally for months you won't see the sun. So you're like under like a thick, thick cloud and everything is like gray and dark. And a lot of people have winter depression. It's like, it's really a thing. And so for me, that first winter being back in the Netherlands and with everything that I was carrying and I was alone and I just felt alone and it was just so much to carry that again like I went into a big big depressive episode in which I was suicidal I was like really like I was really feeling I don't want to be here anymore like this is too much this is too dense this is not what I want and so it was in January February of 2018 in which my parents, they were so worried, you know, me overseas having this experience, I was sharing it with them. And they had just been to an Akashic Records reader in Chile. They had had a fantastic experience with him. And they were like, Millie, why don't you try a reading with him online, you know, Skype in those times and see if that could help. But maybe this can be something for you, you know. just to try something different. And so I have my first Akashi Gregor's reading with him, with Carlos, and that reading changed my life. So basically the reading was just about remembering my soul essence, remembering really, really the core of myself that had just lost. just, I, I, didn't even recognize that part in myself anymore. I had just like lost myself in all the conditioning and all the fears and all the ways that I just adapted myself and thought that that was me when I just like needed to come back to who I truly was at the core. And in that session, I just felt so seen and so heard in a way that I've never experienced before in my life. So it was just like someone for the first time really, really saw me. And, I will never forget that. As I said, we were in the middle of the winter, so it was like a horrible, horrible gray day. was sitting in the living room, like in front of a big window and like in the middle of the session, almost towards the end, the clouds start to open up in front of my face. And like the sun starts hitting me right into my face. And they were talking about like a really cloudy day, like the chances that this was happening in that moment. It was like. like very low and I started crying, crying, crying. I said to Carlos, Carlos, will never believe what is happening. But the sun is quite literally entering, like hitting my face and entering my life again. And this is how I felt at that moment also. And yeah, from that moment onwards, I started my journey of coming back home to myself. And of course, it's not like a one day to another, it's not like something that just magically shifts. It's of course then the hard work starts. I started my healing journey, I started first of all, the first two years were really about expression for me, so arts were really my way of finding myself again. So I was painting a lot and I was journaling a lot, I was writing a lot and through that writing and through painting I started to channel. So I started to channel my higher self, started to channel really my soul essence, my purpose. So many things started to come through these drawings and through these writings. then in 2020, I had my first meditation experience. So before COVID, so in January 2020, it's always like January, February is always like an important month for me. And so I had my first group meditation journey and we were doing inner child healing journey. I remember we were in that journey, closing my eyes. And when I was in that moment in the meditation, I started to see all of the scenes of my life in front of me as it was like a folder. And I could just like scroll through and see like which memory I wanted to tap into and then I would go into that memory and I would go back to that moment. And so I remember I went to a specific memory from when I was like six years old in which I had been really naughty. I was still like a only child at that moment, very spoiled. And I had robbed, I had taken like a bracelet from a store because I was like, I really wanted it. And so really, really bad. And then I came home, my mom saw it and she was like, so angry,

like, why did you do that? That's not what you're supposed to do. And so she was so angry at me and she told me, you stay in your room, stay, think about what you do and you're not going to have dinner tonight so that you can really reflect about what you did. And in that moment, I realized, my God, unconsciously all of these years, I have related that if I am not doing something right, I will be punished by not having food. So is there like this subconscious belief started from around that moment or that's like the biggest Kait Tregenza: That's huge. so if you continue to consider yourself an unworthy, invaluable person, you don't deserve food, which is a Melisa: Exactly. Kait Tregenza: lot different to, just need control in my out of control reality, right? Like that's like genuine justice is being undertaken from this juvenile mind conceptualization of how to make something right when you're wrong. Melisa: I know, right? So it was like, Kait Tregenza: That's huge. Melisa: it just like was mind blown. And in that moment, of course, after that, had to talk with my parents, explain to them like, my God, I just had this realization, I don't blame you. You did what you thought that you had to do, but this was like a huge impact in my life. And we could talk about it and it healed like a big, big part of my life. And I didn't have any more problems with eating Kait Tregenza: Wow. Melisa: also after that. I also realized with meditation that I had just all of these answers within me and all of this information stored within me, all these suppressed emotions. And it was just like, okay, let's do it. Let's unravel everything that's within. And I just became so hooked with meditation. Kait Tregenza: I get it. Especially when there's this, these epiphanies that come and especially in the beginning, these epiphanies are like these huge life changing, like what, how did I never connect that stuff before? And then as you get through these like really big ticket items and you get down, like then you start to work in the nuance and this like really subtle like, or in things that didn't happen or originate in your current lifetime and that, but have huge impact and you can, you can get like really addicted to that because they can be like these huge black and white moments of like it was this and now it's released and it's just like you're so free. Melisa: Yeah, exactly. That's sensation that is so addictive of like, wow, like this liberation and like, I feel so light after this and I just want to continue to take all Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Yeah. Melisa: of these layers. Kait Tregenza: Especially if like the alternative is going out to a bar and having alcohol or, you know, going and doing some like mundane entertainment activity. Like, you serious? Like I could stay at home and meditate and then like unlock these massive answers to my life or have like mundane conversations with you. Like, no, like, come on. I can't, it's no comparison. Melisa: Yeah, and I had

the luck that this happened like before COVID. So during COVID, I was in my bubble, I didn't have to respond to any social, you know, pressure. So I was just like, Kait Tregenza: Yeah Melisa: meditating sometimes two times a day or doing like two, three meditations in a row. Kait Tregenza: I get it. Melisa: And yeah, I just, it went really fast for me, but also because it was always there. So after like four or five months of meditating, almost every single day, It started to go like first from like mindfulness meditations, know, like healing meditations, gratitude meditations, then to inner child meditations. you know, and then slowly it goes to like third eye awakening. And then it was meet your spirit guides and then it was meet the Pleiadians. And then it just went just like, I was astral traveling and just like trans journeying and going from different realms. And it was, it was just went really, really fast for me from that point onwards. And I was just like fascinated. Like I know a lot of some even friends of mine in that time, they were like, I'm just like scared to, to connect with what's on the other side or like connect with my spirit guides or so on. was like, scared. What do you mean? It's amazing. It's amazing. I was just like, Yeah, of course, maybe some people also relate to that, that in that moment when you've had such a dense human experience and you connect with these very like expansive experiences that go beyond the body, that go maybe in the astral planes or your light body, then you much rather want to stay there than stay here, right? So also it's a way of escapism, no? meditate as much as I can or doing this long trance journey so that I could stay there more time. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. And then the real work begins where you're like, okay, I'm going to live in this 3D reality, 3D body. I can't escape. I've got to live here. And that's, that's the actual beginning. Everything else Melisa: Yeah, exactly. Kait Tregenza: is like precursor to the real, the real work, which is how do we make all that stick in here? Melisa: Yes, exactly. So that has been the most wonderful journey, think, since COVID, since COVID until now. It feels like it hasn't been that long of a time, but it's also already been six years. So Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Melisa: it goes fast. But yes, I started already very early on because all my life I felt a big sense of mission all my life. And that has never faded away. I always sense that I came for something big. I came for a big mission. came for, I always had this sense of purpose, a sense of serving. I am a Virgo, double Virgo, moon and sun. And so I always had this sense of like, I want to help all my life. I've done volunteer work. I've always devoted myself to be of service. So that has always been there. yeah. At one point it was like, I'm experiencing all of this. I want to share this with the world because it has done so much good for me. I want to also be able to offer others these safe spaces. And it started in 2021, so very early on already, that I started to offer intuitive art workshops. So for people to what I also did at the beginning through art to explore your unconscious emotions. And every time when I was offering this I was offering something new to others. Every time I felt like, hmm, this is not deep enough. This is not the level that I really want to be serving at. So it started with intuitive art workshops. And then in 2022, I did a women's circle facilitator training. And then that took me a little layer deeper. I started to offer women's circles, also creative women's circles and ceremonies. And again, it was beautiful because I was holding space for all of these important conversations and all of the unconscious emotions and traumas that we were facing as women. And still it was like, it's not deep enough. It's not deep enough because I was experiencing in my own journey, a level of depth that also I could, I didn't have the capacity back then looking now back to hold that space of the depth that I was experiencing myself. I could hold it for myself, but not yet for others. So it just went. gradual, you know. But in my life, I was already working with my ancestor on the astrolayer. had ancestral altars I was offering to the earth. I was working also with past lives, with regression. I went to different healers also. We were doing work for like seven generations back of lineage from my female lineage, like a pain that was taking off of my astral body. There was so many things that I was going through. But still, I could hold space for others just in this more simple way. So at least for me in that moment, it felt more simple. And then in 2023, I did my own initiation into the Akashic Records. So that was level one. in which you learn how to open the records for yourself. And that for me was also like a whole journey in itself because it was very spontaneous. Like one week before the initiation, I was like, OK, this is going to happen. This is what I want to do with the teacher that I also felt the pull with, that I felt really that I could trust. And I remember I was actually in Italy with my family and we were in the airport. It was the last day and I started to feel really bad that day. was so overwhelmed. I got my period. I was really overwhelmed. And then when we got into the airport, it was just so much and I got a panic attack. Like a really full blown, like my vision blend like dark. I was like collapsing all the sounds around me of all the people. It was too loud. I just couldn't do it. started intensely crying, I had to go like into a silent room and I was like, my God, what is happening? Like I haven't had a panic attack since I was like a teenager. What is happening? And then I got home and then I started to have fever for four days and I was feeling horrible and I was like, my God, and I still have this initiation to go through. What is happening? All just to acknowledge and to understand that this was my

body is starting to prepare to open up to hold the Akashic field into my body. So what you were also saying in the beginning, we all think that high frequency is this love and light and easiness and we feel this peace and this love and this expansion. At one point, yes, but you also have to shed all of that that doesn't resonate with that frequency for you to be able to hold that field. And so there was a lot still to... to move through and that was coming all through. So it was a really, really intense initiation for sure. But it was like also, it just made everything started to make sense. It was also very easy in a way to start channeling. So when I had the initiation, I was just like channeling right away. And the teacher was saying like, yeah, it's okay if like... Maybe you start just seeing like one image or just like one word or just like you really like columns and bits and pieces. And for me, I was just like already like streaming like through big messages. And because I was already channeling all along, as I saying, I was already with with with art, with writing, but also at this point with with the trees, I had been already communicating again with the land, with the trees. with everything around me. And so it was just a big coming home back to what was really natural to me and what has always been there. yeah, then in 2024 I started to do my Akashic Records Level 2 training. And that's to open the records of others and open the records of even trees and houses and animals. And that was always my intention. My intention was never to... do readings. intention was to open the records of Mother Earth and the land and trees and plants, animals. And this was in November 2024, I believe. Yes. And already in December 2024, I started to receive clients. Like people started to come to me like, Oh, but do you also offer readings? And all do you have? And it just like went really fast. And from that point over, like I didn't have to do anything. didn't even put it out into like website or online or something. And I like all the people started to come to me. It's like a living field, right? That works on its own. And yeah, that's that's the journey that has been ever since. 2024, I also did a year training in European shamanism, especially with Germanic shamanism, Germanic paganism. And I started to connect more with my Italian heritage, learning more about Italian witchcraft. And I did also with the same feature training in mediumship, energy work and European shamanism. So there's where I really that year 2024, I really got to build the capacity. to start doing the really deep work that I'm doing nowadays and that I'm really felt like, now I've reached the level of depth that I always was longing for to hold and to offer. I'm doing regression work and astral traveling and reconnecting with soul essence. like a few weeks ago, I held an immersion where we went back to the moment before you even were born. So as a soul, when you chose to come to earth, like all of these incredible... ways to remember really who we are and what we came to do because I think that's my main mission to help remember so that we can all be activated into our own medicine and into our purpose and into our essence and this is really who we come to be and this is serving the earth in its highest good and highest potential. Kait Tregenza: Yeah, beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. There were so many pieces of medicine along the way. think one of the things that really struck me while you were sharing was definitely this concept of knowing that you can develop these skills very much within your own artistic creative and curiosity inspired hobbies and desires and outlets. So it doesn't always have to be like so stiff and serious and you know, it's, it's really disconnecting from how we learn things at school in a system based way and going back to like, how do people actually learn? How do people actually un-tap information? And one of the ways in which I have learned so much about this is after the birth of my daughter, The way that she learns, especially as a really high frequency being, is that she literally watches somebody do something once, maybe twice, copies it exactly almost like she's, like at 18 months old, she'd never taken swimming lessons. She just watched these kids dived in the pool and started swimming. Melisa: God, that's incredible. Kait Tregenza: And that's just one, one example of so many. And when I decode myself from learning is hard, you need to put in hours, you need to remember something, all of these, like when I get rid of that belief system and I come into the cells in my body, know how to do something, if I allow them the expression of how They already know. And you just go, my body, my body can now remember what to do. It is so incredible what this biotechnology that we have knows how to tap into all these different time points in reality to bring us that information and to bring us those skills. And what you're really reminding me of is like all of these skills in terms of like, these far off crazy things that people think are extraordinary. We all astral travel. We just call it dreaming. We all have curiosity fueled desires. We just call it hobbies. We call it passion. And so it's like, if you start to decode the minimization that our society has put on these particular skill sets, these talents, these these ways of existing within our technology system. Then you actually go, okay, well, what if I lent more into that? What if I followed that curiosity further and further and further? And you start to realize, okay, these are actual innate skills that are held within myself. They're held within my body. They're held within my consciousness at a level that my mind thinking that it's all intelligent has shut me off from. because turns out, my mind is not all intelligent, it knows very, very little. And so I think that that's listening to your story and the winding path that it's

taken. There's another step of the standout thing that I think is really useful for people to highlight and pull out and really turn around and examine, which is, Again, this two things. Sometimes we don't need big capital T level trauma to still be traumatized and to still be outside of our body. And while in your later years, there were a lot of more capital T traumatic things that happened for sure in those initial childhood years. It, it Sometimes it's enough for us just to be slightly adjacent to our body for enough disembodiment to occur to set the stage for more and more and more disembodiment to come. And so after all of these interviews and talking to all of these amazing women and tracking this out and really understanding this pattern is that disembodiment becomes as much of a habit as anything else. And so if we continue to choose, I'll get out of my body a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more. And you start to find this false safety outside of outside of the body because it's like, well, nobody can hurt me if I'm outside of my body. the same can be true in the, in the inverse, right? Where embodiment becomes a more and more and more of a habit. And so while astral travel, while leaving the body, while doing all of these amazing adventures in consciousness and escapism in this really spiritual, pseudo spiritual way can be very appealing and very exotic and very desirable. The end of that journey always comes back to, well, I'm still living outside of myself and I cannot access my truth. I cannot access the actual beingness of me and the depth of me from outside of the body, because literally the depth is held here. And what I heard from you is like, you made that then the continuous habit and to go down that spiral and down that spiral as much as it was in the beginning to get out the habit, then reframe to get back in. And I think that's a really important takeaway for anyone on at any point in their journey because while doing these meditations of inner child work of shadow work of going into the, am I like this? The depth that you can go can only be maintained in the body. And so I guess my next question to you is with all of these experiences working with yourself and with clients, what do you now know about your own truth? Melisa: That's a beautiful question. One thing that has become very apparent at one point in my journey is that everything that I went through had to happen like that and I would never take nothing different and I wouldn't do nothing different even if it is sometimes hard to accept like all these horrible things happen to me or you know I experiences this this darkness or this horrible thoughts and I almost unalive myself you know I almost didn't want to be here I every single part of my journey and really to so much detail of so many things happened the way that they had to happen so that I had to, yeah, so that I could do this work. There was no other way. There was no other way. So because nowadays I have so many clients that have gone through the same things as me and I can hold space for them and I can go hand in hand to the depth of, of with them, you know, to, because I'm not afraid to go there. I'm not afraid to go into the ugly depth. dark, dark darkness because I've been there and I know also how to get out of there. So that is one thing that I always love to remember. It's hard for some people to accept that some people have really horrible, horrible, which is a trauma with the capital T, know, and really horrible experiences, but that through these experiences, there's always a red line. And it showed me, for example, how resilient I am. Like there is nothing, like there's nothing that will beat me down. not even like any psychic attacks or, know, there's like nothing that will ever keep me off track. I will always come back to my track. I always will come back to my path. There's literally no way that I will deviate. And Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Melisa: that inner strength of That's something that can, I think. Kait Tregenza: You can't buy that. You have to earn Melisa: No Kait Tregenza: that. And I think there was when I was going through really the worst time of my life and it just kept getting like the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. I was talking to, he was a mentor but he wasn't my mentor. And he said, man, do you know what I would pay? to go through what you're going through right now. And I just thought, you're an asshole. Like, why would you say that to me? And I really, I went home and I was like, actually, what if it's true? What if I paid my whatever version of life force energy or like, if I was like, give me everything you've got because I want to become the most powerful, the most resilient, the most unstoppable, ungovernable. free liberated woman on this planet. And I need to know that no matter what, I will rise. Well, guess what? I'm three years beyond that comment from that guy. And I was like, you know what? I would pay anything for what happened. And I think that's a currency, right? That's something that We so we put so little value on in like the, the way in which we value systems in this world is like somebody's internal architecture of robustness of resilience of personally backing yourself of knowing that no matter what happens, I've got me that's that's an inner architecture. That's an inner piece. That's an inner resilience that Actually, very few people on this planet genuinely have, which is why we have this mass mental illness, anxiety, depression, all of these things. And it's really helped me to understand that people like us who have this really big purpose, this big mission to serve, you are going to get. everything served to you so that no matter who shows up at your door, you understand them. And more importantly, that you are this example of if I can do it, so can you. Cause people really don't trust what you say. They trust that you've done

that you've walked that that journey that they've been on and you've done it first and you can turn around and say, come this way, it's safe. Melisa: Yes, I think that's 100 % also the reason that people can feel my energy. That's very authentic, which you said also at beginning, online, and because I'm not afraid to show myself and show all of the parts of also my journey and how I've come and even like my current situations, whatever that I'm transitioning through. there's something that you said that made me remind of a conversation that I had a few weeks ago with a woman. And you know all of these conversations that we're having about what's gonna happen with the earth and what's gonna happen with where we are now. Like a lot of people losing hope you know and people are like okay like is this really gonna happen? Are we really gonna change? Is it gonna become like a new earth, a new world, a new order? And I was telling her like I will never give up. Like there's nothing in that can happen in which I will be like, I surrender. And I think this is also why there's people that have these experiences of like resilience so we can hold the pillars for that, because there's a lot of people that are like tired. Like I have my sister also, she's like, if anything happens, I'm tired, I'm done. This is too much, you know, I cannot. But we need also leaders that can hold. the hope that can hold the field of like, no, we keep on going even when we're tired, even when we're defeated, even like, think maybe this is not. Kait Tregenza: But you look at all of those leaders and they're coming out of probably the worst five years that they've ever had in their entire life. Maybe if you're really unlucky, it's like a little bit longer than five years, but like for many of us, COVID was a deep initiation period because it's like, it was like the... It's almost like, know, when you have those Russian spies and then they get like active, it's something that it's like a trigger word and we all get activated. And it was like COVID, was like that point of like, you all need to come online no matter where you are, no matter like you thought you were initiated. No, now zero initiation. Like you thought you had done it five years ago. You thought you were enlightened. Here's the real initiation because it's coming. This is the, the pre. I want to say pre-war to the war, but it's like, here's the initiation, here's the descent, here's the portal, wake up, let's go. so I think that there was, that's why I think a lot of people right now, outside of these first initial leaders of this specific mission, people are turning around and being like, my God, there's like, There's so much chaos and mayhem and a lot of us are like, really? I don't know. Feels like the same. Melisa: This is a random Tuesday for me! Kait Tregenza: Feels really calm these days. And you start to really see the separation of the world a lot more than you ever have. Don't get me wrong, like it was very

clear before, but I feel like it's, I am getting this sensation that it's almost impossible for me to ever end up in the lower frequency world now. Like it's like, it's already happened. Like I'm already living in a new reality. That doesn't mean that it's not dense and that it's not three-dimensional in the same sense that it always has been. but it feels, it feels like that shift has already started to occur. I don't think it's finished the transition. don't, think we're in the shift. think we're in the separation point. and so for anyone who didn't make a conscious choice to, to end up where they ended up, I think anyone is who's in the middle. who didn't know they had to choose or didn't know that their life was unfolding for this choice. I think those people are having a really hard time. I think the people that have chosen to stay where they're there and the people that have chosen up here, like I think these two extremes are very, very comfortable with where they are. I think it's the middle population that's really struggling with the confusion of what's happening. Melisa: Yeah, and you remind me of like ⁓ a channelled vision that I received from the Akashic Records like last year I think. We're doing a group channeling. My teacher hosts a space for like group channeling with all her students. Like we open the records of ⁓ us, like Mother Earth. ⁓ It was Mother Earth this time. ⁓ And ⁓ what she showed is like all of us that was... were in the coal, we were on top of pyramids of light. It was like if as if we're like in the desert and there were like these pyramids structures of light and we were on top of them and we were helping people to come up to to those top with us. And it was showing as these pyramids there, of course, they're symbolic of like higher consciousness and raising the consciousness, but also being able that from there, that point onwards, you have an ego perspective of what is going on down in the, on the surface. And so there were a lot of people that were coming onto us and it was also like every pyramid with every leader or every person that that was doing the calling it's done in its own specific unique way, because there's always going to be people that resonate with your way of expression, your way of calling and doing things. Like my way is very grounded. Like I get really icky from the things that are like just flow and do this. Just not my way. You know, I like to be honest. I'm grounded. I'm human. I love my humaneness and everything. So that's my way. in that way, you call the people that can listen to you and it doesn't matter the way it's about just people remembering who they are. That's that's the end. The end goal for for everyone doesn't matter which path you take for that. And so The calling was to bring as most people to this point so that they could also see the overview and have this perspective of what was going on. And there were going to be some people left on the surface because when you're down there, down as in like you have not expanded your awareness of reality. It is so confusing because you don't have the full picture. You just have you know, like this perspective around you and you're like, they were all like, walking in and running around like headless chicken of like, what's going on? What's going on? And just like a lot of confusion. Kait Tregenza: Yeah, you can only see where you're at in below, right? Melisa: Exactly. It's very limited view. And so by raising this consciousness, raising the perspective, they could again, gain a sense of also trust and ⁓ calm and you know, like, okay, this is this is what's going on. It's like, I'm not victim of my life like this is this is what's what's happening. And there's gonna be some people left that are never gonna be like going on to because that's maybe not their path or this lifetime, you know, like they didn't come for that or there's different explanations away to understand that. They were also shown that there's like, right now it's so so present the dragon consciousness energy that they were working on the surface level for all of those people that are having a hard time too, racing. So they are doing the work with us and they're like, almost like, like these type of fish that clean the surface. So they were like roaming on the surface level and the denser realities and lower consciousness to help elevate those also that are still left. So they're like helping us in that process. But yeah, I just wanted to share that vision also of exactly what you were saying about how so many people are just roaming around not knowing what to do. I know that everything will work out how it's supposed to work out. But yeah, it's an intense journey for sure. We chose this lifetime for a reason. It's not an easy one, but I guess which lifetime is really easy? I don't know. Kait Tregenza: This will be a really fun lifetime for most people to have come. So I want to transition. Kait: ⁓ That concludes part ⁓ one ⁓ of this two-part interview series with Melissa Monti. ⁓ part two goes into her channeled message ⁓ and ⁓ the wisdom that she's bringing forth specifically for women around their sensuality, sexuality, their wombs, and their life force energy. It is a truly beautiful transmission channeled message from Melissa's Akashic Records. And I highly recommend that you catch that episode. Thank you for tuning in to this episode with Melissa Monti. And if you would like to find out how to connect with Melissa, her Instagram and she transmits meditations and other different courses is all linked below and you can catch that and her next episode all in the show notes. Have an amazing day and I hope that you receive so much wisdom from this episode with Melissa. She's truly a beautiful soul and has so so much to offer the world.