บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ SUPERCUT - The Danielic Mystery of God's Plan from the Foundation of the World

So there's all these things that go on that we're going to get into, but the idea is that Babylon comes in, destroys the temple and then unites the world through force and tyranny. 00:05:54.952 --> 00:06:22.389 Now, what you're going to, what you're going to see, is that that Paul in the book of Ephesians is using that backdrop, that this dream that Nebuchadnezzar has as a statue, is kind of the image that Paul has in his head as he's speaking to the Ephesians and starts describing the church as the body of Christ, because he's looking at this body, the statue of this body, this image that Nebuchadnezzar dreams of. 00:06:22.389 --> 00:06:28.286 So we're going to go through it line by line in ephesians and you're going to see what what paul's talking about. 00:06:28.286 --> 00:06:42.560 But before that, rob, and I really want to give you guys a sense of what the ancient world really was like, because I think a lot of people have the idea that, like, it's not too dissimilar from what we have today, and I even watch you hear that a lot. 00:06:43.021 --> 00:07:12.848 Well, I was going to say you, you hear today a lot that, like, people have the sense that, like, christianity is just a continuation of, you know, I, I think, um, you know, as you've mentioned Tom Holland a billion times on the channel and we're going to talk with him at the the end of May here. 00:07:12.848 --> 00:07:35.362 But, um, just reading the introduction to his book Dominion, I think he's a good example of of how powerful a tool of conversion just the history of what the ancient world was really like and the history of how christianity completely, like, revolutionized the world, you know, I think can be a powerful tool for conversion. 00:07:36.485 --> 00:07:46.141 Just judging from his own story so the the thing that I hate about not that I hate, that I was really upset about with tom's book is he starts at the persian empire. 00:07:46.141 --> 00:07:47.886 So he does. 00:07:47.886 --> 00:07:58.800 He starts with like athens, right, like chapter one is athens, and he goes back to the battle between xerxes and leonidas and leonidas, which is the movie 300, basically. 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.882 You know that that's basically like the time where he brings you back to, but he doesn't go back to babylon. 00:08:03.882 --> 00:08:25.752 No, and I really wish he, I really wish he went back to babylon, because it there's so much going on in babylon and even when we had taylor on, taylor said, when he was going through writing his latest book on the apocalypse, he, he couldn't believe the typological significance of babylon and babylon is this, this, this system? 00:08:25.752 --> 00:08:27.233 It's really this the. 00:08:27.233 --> 00:08:35.841 So I mean, if you read, if you bring up um revelation 17, okay, well, maybe we'll get to that in a little bit, we don't have to do that right now. 00:08:35.880 --> 00:08:49.772 But if you read it, it talks about, you know, babylon the great coming

back and and the whore of babylon and all these things, and it's all this imagery that they're giving you, and it talks about how it was here, then it was gone and then it returns. 00:08:49.772 --> 00:09:15.153 It's like Babylon was this thing in the Old Testament and then it disappears, but then it comes back again in the apocalypse and I feel like, if people are really paying attention to what's going on right now, I see Babylon rising right now and what I really see is a return of these old gods and these old cults coming back, even if people don't understand. 00:09:15.153 --> 00:09:16.900 That's what it is so like. 00:09:16.900 --> 00:09:34.011 If you look at Baal or Baal, however you call it like Baal was the god of prosperity and people would sacrifice their children to the god of prosperity and people would sacrifice their children to the god of prosperity, and this is literally what you have going on, with abortion and things like that. 00:09:34.011 --> 00:09:37.086 Right, so you have that. 00:09:37.167 --> 00:09:38.129 Then you have Ishtar. 00:09:38.129 --> 00:09:40.325 It was another Babylonian goddess. 00:09:40.325 --> 00:09:48.192 You mean Easter, yeah right, but Ishtar was the mistress of baal and she was also a prostitute. 00:09:48.561 --> 00:09:50.525 Now ishtar is like the. 00:09:50.525 --> 00:10:01.592 The worship that you, that you have with ishtar, was just like sexual licentiousness, and she was a prostitute and she was um go ahead well, I was just. 00:10:02.894 --> 00:10:06.691 I mean, yeah, all these gods are so similar between all the different cultures. 00:10:07.701 --> 00:10:11.153 Well, yeah, exactly so Ishtar is really Aphrodite also. 00:10:11.315 --> 00:10:11.535 Right. 00:10:11.837 --> 00:10:12.080 Right. 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:17.581 So, like then Zeus and Jupiter are the same and Baal is the same, and like. 00:10:17.581 --> 00:10:19.688 So I mean we've spoken before. 00:10:20.059 --> 00:10:21.043 Jupiter actually comes from. 00:10:21.043 --> 00:10:24.577 I just I'm going say this because I I found it interesting. 00:10:24.577 --> 00:10:36.647 I didn't realize that the name jupiter is just a latinization of of zeus potter you know, father zeus zeus so zeus potter, jupiter oh, I didn't know that. 00:10:36.866 --> 00:10:38.951 Yeah, um, yeah, so like we've spoken. 00:10:38.951 --> 00:10:46.753 Uh, even when taylor was on that episode, when I talked about like all these different cultures have the same gods. 00:10:46.753 --> 00:10:53.884 They just have different names for them, but the worship is the same, right like it's the same demons so that's why I am. 00:10:53.903 --> 00:10:56.412 I mean, it's my theory is that that's why you have. 00:10:56.412 --> 00:11:02.389 You have pyramids in south america, you also have them in egypt, you have them in scandinavia, like. 00:11:02.389 --> 00:11:10.634 It's like this strange thing, but really what they're trying to do is build a mountain, a mountain to god, like it's similar to the tower of battle of babel. 00:11:11.041 --> 00:11:22.105 It's very similar to that babylon, which is babylon tower of babel, so it's all these things that when you really understand what's going on, you're starting to see these things happen again. 00:11:22.105 --> 00:11:34.629 And there's actually a story in Tom Holland's book about what's his name, julian the Apostate. 00:11:34.629 --> 00:11:37.594 So he goes in and it's in 362. 00:11:37.594 --> 00:11:41.485 Now Julian the Apostate is the nephew of Constantine. 00:11:41.485 --> 00:11:53.586 He's raised as a boy to be Christian, but as he becomes an adult he throws off his Christianity and once he becomes emperor he tries to bring back the pagan gods. 00:11:53.586 --> 00:11:59.803 And he's walking through Rome and he sees the temple to Sibylle is in ruins. 00:11:59.803 --> 00:12:08.269 Now he starts saying I actually have it pulled up, let me see if I can grab it actually. 00:12:08.269 --> 00:12:16.572 So, um, okay, the shock of this cut, uh, the shop. 00:12:16.572 --> 00:12:16.971 So he's. 00:12:16.971 --> 00:12:20.164 He's walking through rome and he sees temple in ruins. 00:12:20.164 --> 00:12:28.365 The great bulk of her temple, which for centuries had dominated the city, increasingly stood as a monument, not to her potency, for centuries had dominated the city, increasingly stood as a monument not to her potency but to her fading. 00:12:28.947 --> 00:12:35.188 The shock of this cut flavius claudius julianus, which is really julian the apostate to the quick, the nephew of constantine. 00:12:35.188 --> 00:12:39.094 He had been raised a christian, with the eunuch set over him to keep him constant in his faith. 00:12:39.094 --> 00:12:51.889 As a young man, though, he had repudiated christianity and, after becoming emperor, had committed himself to claiming back from it those who had abandoned the ever-living gods for the corpse of the Amish. 00:12:51.889 --> 00:12:56.986 I'm going to say that Abandoned the ever-living gods for the corpse of the Amish. 00:12:56.986 --> 00:12:58.071 He's talking about Jesus. 00:12:58.071 --> 00:13:07.363 A brilliant scholar, a dashing general, julian was also a man as devout in his beliefs as any of those he dismissively termed Galileans. 00:13:07.363 --> 00:13:10.929 Sibylle was a particular object of his devotions. 00:13:10.929 --> 00:13:15.245 It was she, he believed, who had rescued him from the darkness of his childhood beliefs. 00:13:15.966 --> 00:13:24.942 So now what happens is he sees that the temple's in ruins and in his mind he thinks it's the priest's fault. 00:13:24.942 --> 00:13:32.086 And he starts telling the priests I want you to, because the priests are all at bars and drunkenness, because that's really what the cult is. 00:13:32.086 --> 00:13:35.467 The cult is all about licentiousness and doing whatever you want. 00:13:35.467 --> 00:13:39.350 Now these priests cash themselves and they wear women's clothing. 00:13:39.350 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So Sibylle is adjacent to Artemis, ephesia, right? 00:13:46.373 --> 00:13:53.556 So it's that you're seeing these same gods with the same type of worship, with the same type of cult around them in different cultures. 00:13:53.556 --> 00:14:09.188 Now, rob and I both understand this is not going to be a high-viewed episode, like I'm hoping that the people who are really interested in learning something are going to stick around for this one, because this is we're trying to do something a little bit different here. 00:14:09.188 --> 00:14:18.488 But so now Julian starts telling his priest you guys are slacking in your duties, and he wants them to start donating a fifth a fifth of their income to the poor. 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:21.679 So you want to know something interesting about, about Sibylle. 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:23.447 It wasn't actually the. 00:14:23.447 --> 00:14:34.303 The Roman version of the greek goddess sibley is is actually was an older goddess native to phrygia, which is asia minor turkey, right. 00:14:34.303 --> 00:14:46.192 So it was an older native goddess that the greeks adapted into artemis even gotcha see, I'm not so much schooled in these cults. 00:14:46.251 --> 00:14:55.644 I only know what I'm learning from because really, for me, it was reading tim flander's book, reading dominion, and I just started reading. 00:14:55.644 --> 00:15:14.509 It's the craziest thing because I I've been trying to really give these ideas in our show for the past six months, right, like we've been trying to like get, get this, get, get this, get, get these ideas across if you say you're reading graham hancock, I'm gonna slap you no, not graham hancock, um, but uh, uh. 00:15:14.509 --> 00:15:14.909 What's his name? 00:15:14.909 --> 00:15:16.113 I think jonathan khan. 00:15:16.113 --> 00:15:18.162 I just bought the book today yeah, you have. 00:15:18.322 --> 00:15:22.967 He's in the what's that you sent me so yeah, so I saw yesterday. 00:15:23.388 --> 00:15:30.196 I saw a clip from Grace Force which is Father Heilman and what's his co-host, doug Barry. 00:15:30.196 --> 00:15:34.610 So Father Heilman and Doug Barry had Jonathan Cahn on. 00:15:34.610 --> 00:15:36.046 Why don't we play the first clip? 00:15:36.046 --> 00:15:47.059 So that would be clip number two from them, and that'll really try to, you know, because this is exactly what I've been trying to say on the show, and he wrote a book on it and I just bought it this morning. 00:15:50.168 --> 00:15:51.169 So give me a second. 00:15:51.750 --> 00:15:54.921 Yeah, yeah, so yeah. 00:15:54.921 --> 00:16:09.677 Tim Flanders book was really goes into especially how the the gospel of Jesus Christ was up against the gospel of Caesar Augustus. 00:16:09.677 --> 00:16:20.436 Caesar Augustus was coming out with this gospel, the good news that the Prince of Peace has subdued the earth, but he did it through force and crucifixion and tyranny. 00:16:20.436 --> 00:16:25.967 And then Paul comes and says no, no, no, that's not the gospel, because Caesar Augustus is claiming to be the son of God. 00:16:25.967 --> 00:16:36.140 So this gospel in the first century is going out Caesar Augustus, the son of God, the prince of peace, has subdued the earth and brought peace to the land. 00:16:36.140 --> 00:16:44.464 And Paul comes in and he's like no, this is the gospel and this is the prince of peace, and this is the good news which you are going to see. 00:16:44.464 --> 00:16:53.576 And it's these competing Gospels going up against each other and to watch the Gospel, the true Gospel, win out is such an amazing thing. 00:16:53.576 --> 00:16:56.982 That's why I really want people to read Dominion. 00:16:56.982 --> 00:16:58.086 Go ahead, let's hear it you ready. 00:16:58.626 --> 00:17:01.352 Yeah, I think you talk in your book about the Enchantress. 00:17:01.352 --> 00:17:04.060 Can you? 00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:04.521 explain that. 00:17:04.521 --> 00:17:05.903 Break that down for us a little bit. 00:17:05.903 --> 00:17:06.164 Yeah, she's. 00:17:06.164 --> 00:17:08.650 This is the second of the dark trinity and this is a she. 00:17:08.650 --> 00:17:10.012 This is in canaanite mythology. 00:17:10.012 --> 00:17:16.859 She was the wife or mistress of baal, but this is one of the darkest, most ancient principalities is everywhere. 00:17:16.859 --> 00:17:21.170 If you went to babylon, they call well, in the bible she's called ashtora. 00:17:21.170 --> 00:17:22.641 In the bible it's ashtora. 00:17:22.641 --> 00:17:25.388 But you go to babylon, they call her Ishtar. 00:17:25.388 --> 00:17:27.803 Go to Greece they call her Aphrodite. 00:17:28.345 --> 00:17:30.368 But this is a dark principality. 00:17:30.368 --> 00:17:41.141 It is the principality of sexual immorality, licentiousness, unbridled sexuality, sexual lust and plus, she was a prostitute. 00:17:41.141 --> 00:17:46.413 This goddess was a prostitute, and so the thing is that what do we expect to happen? 00:17:46.413 --> 00:17:47.883 You know, it's kind of like Baal. 00:17:47.883 --> 00:17:52.786 Is that first spirit who says okay, come on, guys, the house is good, come on and let's take it over. 00:17:52.786 --> 00:17:54.746 Well, you have Baal. 00:17:54.746 --> 00:17:58.009 First the Bible, it says Baal and then it says Ashtoreth. 00:17:58.009 --> 00:18:00.967 So first is Baal, then comes the goddess. 00:18:00.967 --> 00:18:04.255 Well, first came bale, the turning of america away from god. 00:18:04.255 --> 00:18:06.461 Then what would we expect to happen? 00:18:06.461 --> 00:18:07.846 Like clockwork, what would happen? 00:18:07.846 --> 00:18:13.203 We expect there to be a transformation of the realm of sexuality if this one comes in. 00:18:13.684 --> 00:18:16.701 Well, what happens right after we begin turning away from god. 00:18:17.001 --> 00:18:18.025 What happens to america? 00:18:18.025 --> 00:18:20.593 We have the sexual revolution. 00:18:20.593 --> 00:18:22.439 It starts overturning it. 00:18:22.439

--> 00:18:24.887 These all have the fingerprints of the goddess on it. 00:18:24.887 --> 00:18:26.463 This is one I mean. 00:18:26.463 --> 00:18:29.074 You know what's been happening with sexual revolution? 00:18:29.074 --> 00:18:39.046 It has been the overturning of every Judeo-Christian value concerning sexuality and marriage and gender and replacing them with pagan values. 00:18:39.046 --> 00:18:40.769 And what does a prostitute do? 00:18:40.769 --> 00:18:46.784 A prostitute takes sex out of marriage and puts it into the marketplace, puts it into the culture. 00:18:46.784 --> 00:18:48.730 Well, what has happened to America? 00:18:48.730 --> 00:18:55.269 Sex has been taken out of the bonds of marriage and the entire culture has become sexualized. 00:18:55.690 --> 00:19:01.269 It's the sexualization of children, sexualization of our media, sexualization of our entertainment. 00:19:01.269 --> 00:19:02.612 Well, that's the flood. 00:19:02.612 --> 00:19:04.423 It's the flood that comes with this goddess. 00:19:04.423 --> 00:19:05.046 And you know what? 00:19:05.046 --> 00:19:12.424 The other thing is that in ancient Greece she was worshipped, just like she was worshipped all over, as the sacred prostitute. 00:19:13.006 --> 00:19:24.007 And the word in Greek for prostitute, what she was, what they called her, is the word porne, from which we get the word porn or pornography, from which we get the word porn or pornography. 00:19:24.007 --> 00:19:27.250 Pornography comes from this spirit. 00:19:27.250 --> 00:19:41.721 In fact, the first pornography on planet earth, both the literature, the writings about this goddess, even the images, come from her. 00:19:41.721 --> 00:19:48.140 So she uses this one uses, has an explosion of pornography to seduce America, to seduce the Western world, to seduce it away from God and into paganism. 00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:48.902 So that's one. 00:19:48.902 --> 00:19:55.702 And the other thing is we talk about the culture and we'll say you know, it's being eroticized, it's erotic culture. 00:19:55.702 --> 00:19:58.892 The word erotic comes from Eros, the Greek word. 00:19:58.892 --> 00:20:08.423 Eros was a god and the mother of Eros was this goddess God and the mother of Eros was this goddess. 00:20:08.423 --> 00:20:11.232 So she gives birth to porn and gives birth to erotica, and that's how she casts her spell on Asia. 00:20:11.272 --> 00:20:13.800 And, by the way, what else does a prostitute do? 00:20:13.800 --> 00:20:16.568 A prostitute weakens marriage. 00:20:16.568 --> 00:20:20.740 So look what's happened to marriage when the sexual revolution came. 00:20:20.740 --> 00:20:24.569 It has been weakened, it has been undermined, it has been broken. 00:20:24.569 --> 00:20:34.288 We had broken homes, broken children because of this goddess, because of this spirit, and the other thing about it is she was also the goddess of spells and the occult. 00:20:34.288 --> 00:20:46.433 So notice, at the same time of the 1960s comes the

sexual revolution, comes the revival of the occult, tarot, cardsopes, you know, new age, all this stuff of psychic hotlines. 00:20:46.433 --> 00:20:47.982 You know, and you know. 00:20:47.982 --> 00:20:54.461 It is so much so that today in america we have more witches than we have presbyterians. 00:20:55.042 --> 00:21:17.796 That's so we do have one, not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but yeah right, I should have clipped it right before he said that you guys should go watch that interview on Grace Force, that Jonathan Cahn interview, because the whole interview is phenomenal. 00:21:20.539 --> 00:21:29.871 But what I was especially getting to, with Julian the Apostate walking through Rome and seeing the Temple of Sibylle starting to fall into decay right, you start to see the temple to Apollo fall into decay. 00:21:29.871 --> 00:21:36.372 All these temples to these old gods are falling into decay, and then a lot of them get converted into Christian churches. 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:38.480 So what do we see? 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:39.642 So, rob, I actually posted a quote in that thing. 00:21:39.662 --> 00:21:40.282 Can you pull that quote up? 00:21:40.282 --> 00:21:40.483 Sure can. 00:21:40.483 --> 00:21:40.824 What do we see? 00:21:40.824 --> 00:21:42.526 So, Rob, I actually posted a quote in that thing. 00:21:42.526 --> 00:21:43.907 Can you pull that quote up? 00:21:44.249 --> 00:21:44.769 Sure can. 00:21:46.070 --> 00:21:49.496 So it's just a picture of a quote from from Jonathan Cahn's book. 00:21:49.496 --> 00:21:56.222 So the spell of the gods was broken. 00:21:56.222 --> 00:21:58.290 The skies were no longer filled with their thrones and the earth was no longer their haunting ground. 00:21:58.290 --> 00:21:59.234 Their names no longer inspired fear and awe. 00:21:59.234 --> 00:22:00.400 Their festivals attracted fewer and fewer worshipers. 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:01.980 Their shrines were abandoned. 00:22:01.980 --> 00:22:03.323 Their temples fell into ruin. 00:22:03.323 --> 00:22:05.144 It was the twilight of the gods. 00:22:05.944 --> 00:22:13.712 So me and my wife go on this trip and we rented a house, an off-grid house. 00:22:13.712 --> 00:22:17.217 Now, I didn't realize this, but it was called Merlin's Cabin. 00:22:17.217 --> 00:22:29.009 And inside the cabin are all these books and their books, like all having to do with the occult. 00:22:29.009 --> 00:22:35.866 There's the um, the Gnostic gospels are in there, like all these weird books in there. 00:22:35.866 --> 00:22:40.970 And I'm like this is what made me start telling my wife the story, Cause I'm like this is so crazy. 00:22:40.970 --> 00:22:42.093 I'm like these are all. 00:22:42.093 --> 00:22:48.342 These are all heresies trying to pull you away from the Christian truth. 00:22:48.342 --> 00:22:50.606 Like you're going into Merlin's cabin. 00:22:50.646 --> 00:23:07.984 Now, if you understand the story of of of King Arthur, like the story of King Arthur is about the Christian, like Christianity spreading and King Arthur wants to go find the Holy grailil, but merlin is caught in between the new world of christianity and the old world of the gods. 00:23:07.984 --> 00:23:14.287 So you have, like queen mab, and she's still like in there and trying to, you know, practice the old magic. 00:23:14.287 --> 00:23:16.152 But the old magic is fading and stuff. 00:23:16.152 --> 00:23:27.655 And what we're seeing happen now is think about all the parish consolidations, Think about every diocese consolidating parishes. 00:23:27.655 --> 00:23:30.449 We're seeing our temples fall into ruin. 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:32.788 They're used as bars and restaurants. 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:34.768 Bars, restaurants, apartment complexes. 00:23:35.300 --> 00:23:38.640 Dude, wedding venues, things like that, like all these things, dude. 00:23:38.640 --> 00:24:00.849 You're seeing, this is all baked into the Christian story and so much of it has to do with what happened in the first century, when Christ comes and you see the Sanhedrin colluding with Rome and they persecute the Messiah. 00:24:00.849 --> 00:24:13.371 And what we're seeing going on now with the hierarchy is they're colluding with it's not Rome, but it's this Babylon that's forming and they're colluding with them and they're flirting with all these things, with the gender stuff. 00:24:13.371 --> 00:24:15.277 And it's really scary. 00:24:15.277 --> 00:24:27.073 It really is when you think about it, because our temples are falling into ruin and you have the hierarchy flirting around with this insanely evil, diabolical thing going on here. 00:24:27.340 --> 00:24:28.522 Now that I'm not like. 00:24:28.522 --> 00:24:31.550 Don't ever take that for me saying the hierarchy is whatever. 00:24:31.550 --> 00:24:33.982 That's not, it's, this is actually. 00:24:33.982 --> 00:24:44.817 It's like, if you look to the first century, like those were the, like jesus says at at one point he says uh, you know, the scribes and the pharisees do what they say, not as they do, for they sit. 00:24:44.817 --> 00:24:49.820 Not as they do, for they sit in the seat of moses, like they sit in the judgment seat of moses, like these men are still valid. 00:24:49.820 --> 00:24:54.109 What makes what they're doing so horrible is that they are the hierarchy. 00:24:54.109 --> 00:25:05.451 Yeah, it's like that's what makes it so horrid, it's, but we're starting to see these old gods return and it's. 00:25:05.451 --> 00:25:08.193 It's really really pretty unnerving. 00:25:08.193 --> 00:25:22.932 And when you see, uh, play the next clip, because the next clip gets into what we're really seeing in this current moment with the trans thing you get into a little more about what's happened. 00:25:22.952 --> 00:25:26.766 And I think it ties in with the child sacrifice too, because now we're mutilating. 00:25:26.766 --> 00:25:28.048 Can you talk more about that? 00:25:28.048 --> 00:25:31.402 Totally right, it's, it's all,

it's all joined together. 00:25:31.402 --> 00:25:33.688 And, and again, you know, you're, you're right. 00:25:33.688 --> 00:25:36.866 You say like if we had 50, you know 2020, we have 2020 hindsight. 00:25:36.866 --> 00:25:44.925 But if we really were watching what the bible said and the way it warned what was going to happen, we could have said this was all going to happen, because that's what I'm thinking. 00:25:45.185 --> 00:26:06.108 So, yeah, so there was another side to this goddess in the Return of the Gods that I call at this point, I call her the Transformer, because there was something strange when I looked at the ancient inscriptions about this goddess and I don't just say it, I put it in the book so you can actually see what they actually said she says I am a woman, I am a woman, I am a man. 00:26:06.108 --> 00:26:19.063 It says in one of her hymns oh, you know, great goddess, you have the power to turn a man into a woman, turn a woman into a man. 00:26:19.063 --> 00:26:27.154 This is the spirit that confuses gender, merges gender, replaces gender, destroys gender the spirit of androgyny. 00:26:27.154 --> 00:26:31.030 And it's no accident that this is what we are witnessing now. 00:26:31.030 --> 00:26:32.799 You know this could never come out in 1962. 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:34.198 It would be too radical. 00:26:34.198 --> 00:26:37.069 So you know they can't come in like, they have to hide it. 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:46.811 But once this spirit starts possessing the culture, once you have a sexual revolution for a while and you're already destroying marriages, you're destroying men, women. 00:26:46.811 --> 00:26:48.934 Well, this is what's going to come in. 00:26:48.934 --> 00:26:50.643 This is her darker work or her deeper work. 00:26:50.643 --> 00:26:52.607 So that's why we're dealing with it now. 00:26:52.607 --> 00:27:00.721 And so what we're dealing with is the destruction of gender, and starting with, I mean, this is not just in sexuality, I'll get to it, but it's in everything. 00:27:00.721 --> 00:27:07.943 It's literally a spirit, because, for instance, it says that she grinds away the masculinity of men. 00:27:07.943 --> 00:27:14.267 There is a spirit in America right now that is doing exactly that grinding away the masculinity of men. 00:27:14.287 --> 00:27:17.768 You know, when I was growing up, actually, this is before my time a little bit. 00:27:18.067 --> 00:27:20.189 They had shows like Father Knows Best. 00:27:20.189 --> 00:27:22.450 Can you imagine a show today with that title? 00:27:22.450 --> 00:27:27.291 Now fathers are mocked, are vilified. 00:27:27.291 --> 00:27:28.593 Well, that's part of it. 00:27:28.593 --> 00:27:31.334 You know this goddess actually raged against the patriarchy. 00:27:31.334 --> 00:27:33.134 She raged against male authority. 00:27:33.134 --> 00:27:33.795 She hated it. 00:27:33.795 --> 00:27:36.375 So we're watching this spirit now in our world. 00:27:36.675 --> 00:27:37.616 It says she grinds away. 00:27:37.616 --> 00:27:46.142 So she takes men away from manhood, takes men away from fatherhood, men away from marriage, men away from women, and that's what she's doing to an entire generation. 00:27:46.142 --> 00:27:50.711 Then, on the other hand, what she does is she defeminizes women. 00:27:50.711 --> 00:27:56.690 She was a female entity in a sense, but she was filled with masculine attributes. 00:27:56.690 --> 00:28:14.026 So she's seeking to make women of our time into her image and to defeminize them, take them away from womanhood, take them away from a marriage, take them away from motherhood, have them kill their own babies, take them away from all those things you know and take them. 00:28:14.026 --> 00:28:20.733 And so she separates man, separates woman and starts emasculating the one and masculinizing the other. 00:28:21.055 --> 00:28:29.886 So we have a real weird culture, because in our culture, if a man acts masculine, the culture will say this is toxic, horrible. 00:28:29.886 --> 00:28:34.724 If a woman acts the exact same way, masculine, the culture will applaud and say bravo. 00:28:34.724 --> 00:28:36.469 So it's affecting us in every way. 00:28:36.469 --> 00:28:49.069 But now let me go deeper, because she had a priesthood, a strange priesthood, and they were called the Asinu and they were men who walked around in her temples dressed up as women. 00:28:49.069 --> 00:29:12.903 They were dressed up as women, they spoke as women, and people would take their children to the temples to see the men in drag, and so when you see this coming back, you know that the gods are back and you're dealing with something very, very major here sounds like uh you know what you can pause it, yeah it sounds like drake wing story hours right so so what what I'm? 00:29:13.003 --> 00:29:13.807 you can even get rid of it. 00:29:13.807 --> 00:29:20.565 So, like the, the whole point of what I'm, what I'm seeing here is they don't realize what they're doing. 00:29:20.565 --> 00:29:27.320 They're worshiping these old gods now this is the world that existed before the resurrection. 00:29:27.761 --> 00:29:30.928 Before the resurrection it was a scary, scary place. 00:29:30.928 --> 00:29:38.866 It was uh like the way women and children were treated there's. 00:29:38.866 --> 00:29:42.660 If a child had any kind of a defect, they have to understand. 00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:43.801 There's no ultrasounds back then. 00:29:43.801 --> 00:29:47.269 So these these babies were born, even the slightest defect. 00:29:47.269 --> 00:29:48.813 They would just leave them on the side of the road. 00:29:48.813 --> 00:29:52.307 They would just leave a baby on the side of the road. 00:29:52.880 --> 00:30:00.574 In Sparta, they would throw them off of one hill and there'd be a pile of infant skeletons at the bottom of the cliff. 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:10.815 So yeah, in Rome they would just be left, like you said, on the side of the road outside of the city so yeah, in rome

they would just be left, um, like you said, on the side of the road, outside of the city, things like that. 00:30:10.815 --> 00:30:12.359 So now this is going on, and and until christianity comes. 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:32.550 Now, now, when, after the resurrection, the christians start picking these babies up and caring for them and raising them, and the idea that that women and men are of equal dignity, that there's no slave, that, like that, the slaves have equal dignity, that it's um should I? 00:30:32.711 --> 00:30:37.229 this probably a good time for for the section here from dominion yeah, definitely read that. 00:30:37.288 --> 00:30:43.692 Yeah, okay, let's see here so I'm actually gonna go all straight over here. 00:30:43.692 --> 00:30:48.291 But so this is, uh, tom holl Holland giving an introduction to Dominion. 00:30:48.291 --> 00:31:01.059 And if you don't know Tom Holland, he's an English historian and author who, at least for most of his life, has been largely agnostic, if not atheistic in terms of his religious beliefs. 00:31:01.059 --> 00:31:03.910 So that's the perspective he's writing from here. 00:31:03.910 --> 00:31:08.826 So he says, over the course of the past two decades, my perspective has changed. 00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:19.868 When I came to write my first works of history, I chose as my themes the two periods of history that had always most stirred and moved me as a child the Persian invasions of Greek and the last decades of the Roman Republic. 00:31:19.868 --> 00:31:46.678 He says they continue to stalk my imaginings, as they'd always done, like a great white shark, like a tiger, like a tyrannosaur. 00:31:46.678 --> 00:31:51.830 Yet giant carnivores, however wondrous, are by their nature terrifying. 00:31:51.830 --> 00:31:57.833 The more years he spent immersed in the study of classical antiquity, the more alien he found it. 00:31:57.833 --> 00:32:08.346 He says that the values of Leonidas, whose people have practiced a peculiarly murderous form of eugenics and trained their young to kill, upper the intermention, which is basically subhumans. 00:32:08.346 --> 00:32:22.691 This is the Spartan practice of it's like a rite of a passage to manhood, where your young Spartan son would have to more or less go and kill slaves at night. 00:32:22.691 --> 00:32:34.585 In the film 300, they show him being put out in the wilderness and killing a wolf, when in reality they would more or less have to stalk the city streets and kill slaves without being caught. 00:32:34.585 --> 00:32:37.582 Yeah, Wow. 00:32:37.622 --> 00:32:38.305 I didn't know that? 00:32:38.787 --> 00:32:39.288 What do they call it? 00:32:39.288 --> 00:32:45.891 The agogi, I think, is what it's termed, and it was much more about stalking and killing. 00:32:46.171 --> 00:32:50.703 You know, humans and getting their first blood that way, and it was slaves. 00:32:50.703 --> 00:32:59.867 Well, like he said, the intervention um, not so much rabid wolves or things like that, so um, but he says here that that you know. 00:32:59.867 --> 00:33:08.394 Uh, that was nothing that he recognized as his own, nor were those of Caesar, who was reported to have killed a million Gauls and enslaved a million more. 00:33:08.394 --> 00:33:10.560 Those are low estimates. 00:33:10.560 --> 00:33:19.714 Actually, it was not just the extremes of callousness that unsettled me, but the complete lack of any sense that the poor or the weak might have the slightest intrinsic value. 00:33:19.714 --> 00:33:22.623 Why did I find this disturbing? 00:33:22.623 --> 00:33:26.152 Because in my morals and ethics I was not a Spartan or Roman at all. 00:33:26.721 --> 00:33:33.074 That my belief in God had faded over the course of my teenage years did not mean that I had ceased to be Christian. 00:33:33.074 --> 00:33:40.326 Now, obviously, as far as we're concerned, it does really mean that, but what he means is in his worldview. 00:33:40.326 --> 00:33:44.482 His worldview did not cease to be Christian For a millennium and more. 00:33:44.482 --> 00:33:47.010 The civilization to which I had been born was Christendom. 00:33:47.010 --> 00:34:02.393 Assumptions that I had grown up with about how a society should be properly organized, the principles that it should uphold, were not bred of classical antiquity, still less of human nature, but very distinctly of that civilization's Christian past. 00:34:02.393 --> 00:34:09.949 So profound has the impact of Christianity been on the development of Western civilization that it has come to be hidden from view. 00:34:09.949 --> 00:34:13.309 It is the incomplete revolutions which are remembered. 00:34:13.309 --> 00:34:17.130 The fate of those which triumph is to be taken for granted. 00:34:18.541 --> 00:34:43.476 What Tom is saying is that people today, like the point is that Christianity has subdued the earth so much that people can be atheists Like you are so entrenched in the spirit of God that when God prophesies in the Old Testament, the Gentiles who walk in darkness have seen a great light. 00:34:43.476 --> 00:34:48.445 This ancient animal world, because it was barbarous. 00:34:48.445 --> 00:35:05.007 It is subdued so much that God's spirit covers the earth that every civilization that comes in contact with it, whether it's the barbarians, whether it's vikings, no matter who comes in contact with it, they start off coming in, trying to attack us and eventually convert. 00:35:06.271 --> 00:35:50.112 And it's to the point now where people are swimming in christian waters and have no idea and they think it's silly to believe in these, well, these superstitions and things like that ancient norse paganism, and they don't even realize that the stories that they know of norse paganism, the history that they know of it, is only what catholic monks kept, that, that that the, the norse language, the written language, was developed by by catholic monks. 00:35:50.152 --> 00:35:53.106 They took these, these ruin, runic

symbols, right. 00:35:53.106 --> 00:35:54.188 That wasn't that. 00:35:54.188 --> 00:35:57.478 They weren't a language at the time, they were just pictographs. 00:35:57.478 --> 00:36:07.492 They took these symbols and adapted it to the Norse language and they're the ones that wrote down and kept parts of the history and parts of the story they thought were worthwhile. 00:36:07.492 --> 00:36:24.840 So when you realize that the god Odin, you know, hung from a tree and died, you know, for three days and then rose again from the dead, it's not because Christianity is made to look was was modeled off of the Norse religion. 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:39.943 It's because of the Norse religion that we know and have today was modeled after Christianity, because there is no pagan religion today that is not affected by Christianity religion today that is not affected by christianity. 00:36:39.963 --> 00:36:42.068 Yeah, people, people have to realize, like the, the christian monks in these monasteries. 00:36:42.068 --> 00:36:48.394 They're the reason we even have any of the greek myths, they're the reason we have any of plato, aristotle, any of it. 00:36:48.394 --> 00:37:09.250 Books were not something that were easily come by, so these monks would sit there and they would, and they would write manuscripts of these ancient scrolls and they would, and they would write manuscripts of these ancient scrolls and they would actually, like the libraries, would be in the monasteries, because because christianity, when it comes along it, it is trying to make sense of history. 00:37:09.250 --> 00:37:13.804 It really is, and they and it and it sees time has a purpose. 00:37:13.804 --> 00:37:24.574 So we start saying time now, from the year of our Lord, because they see there's something to the progress of time and that we are waiting on the fullness of time to come. 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:39.242 That's another thing Tom Holland points out is even in North Korea, or in your most militaristic Mohammedan societies, militaristic, uh, muhammadan societies. 00:37:39.242 --> 00:37:40.403 They cannot help, of course, but at least in some cases. 00:37:40.403 --> 00:37:44.990 You know, use our modern dating system, which of course, is you know. 00:37:44.990 --> 00:37:46.795 I mean by using even the. 00:37:46.795 --> 00:37:54.230 You know 2023, you, you're saying it's been 2023 years since you know the birth of christ. 00:37:54.349 --> 00:38:11.193 So that's how christian, yeah, the world was has been made to be so I remember in in um, in uh, ninth grade, when we were learning greek mythology, I remember reading it and I said to my english teacher I go, how did these people believe this? 00:38:11.193 --> 00:38:12.322 Like I didn't understand. 00:38:12.322 --> 00:38:13.704 Like how did these people believe this? 00:38:13.704 --> 00:38:19.954 And he wrote out the apostles creed on the chalkboard and everywhere it said Jesus. 00:38:19.954 --> 00:38:26.186 So he wrote I believe in Zeus, the father almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in his only son, hercules. 00:38:26.186 --> 00:38:28.380 Like he, he wrote it out, like that and he goes. 00:38:28.541 --> 00:38:38.313 You think what they believe is so ridiculous and like it really made me really made me think about it, and as I think back on it now, it's like it's not preposterous. 00:38:38.313 --> 00:38:44.088 You people have to realize that these gods were real spirits, like they really did have an influence over these people. 00:38:44.088 --> 00:39:05.384 So Tom Holland was in an interview one time and he says and I'm sorry we keep talking about Tom Holland, but it's part of a lot of the preparation for the interview we're going to do with him but he says there's a common idea that Christian sex is repressive and puritanical, boring or square, something that we have to jettison. 00:39:05.384 --> 00:39:08.137 The idea that Paul is some kind of hung up guy who just turns up when Greeks and Romans are having great fun and having orgies. 00:39:08.137 --> 00:39:11.043 Then Paul shows up as a massive party pooper and ruins everyone's entertainment. 00:39:11.043 --> 00:39:26.911 But actually Paul's doctrine of sexuality that he preaches is deeply rooted in this idea that slavery is something to overcome and that everybody has been liberated by the sacrifice of Christ, that every human being, by virtue of Christ's death and sacrifice, now has value. 00:39:26.911 --> 00:39:33.989 He specifically says that they have bodily integrity, that every man, woman and child has bodily sacrality. 00:39:33.989 --> 00:39:37.760 In the case of a woman it's a reflection of the church. 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.268 For a man it's of Christ himself. 00:39:39.268 --> 00:39:45.367 So if that's the case, it brings the dignity to a household slave that was never there before. 00:39:45.820 --> 00:39:48.811 These slaves were expected to be sexual objects for their masters. 00:39:48.811 --> 00:39:55.864 The Romans had the same word for urinate, ejaculate, and essentially the same word for mouth, genitals and anus for slaves. 00:39:55.864 --> 00:40:03.603 So men would treat women as a toilet, in other words, and essentially the same word for okay, that word was akin to urinals. 00:40:03.603 --> 00:40:19.512 These slaves were objects for masters to dump their fluids in, and what Paul is saying is that this is absolutely untrue, that no one has the right to do that to them and, more importantly, there is an obligation on the male citizen, the master and the Lord, to control his sexual appetites. 00:40:19.913 --> 00:40:24.306 So when we had Tim Gordon on, I tried saying that to him and he kind of pushed back on it. 00:40:24.306 --> 00:40:31.369 But no, the idea that women are, are are submissive to men in the ancient world is obvious to everyone. 00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:35.643 Women are subordinate to men because men are just the stronger sex. 00:40:35.643 --> 00:40:38.690 So, like the ancient world, that

wasn't revolutionary. 00:40:38.690 --> 00:40:42.146 That women should be subject to their husbands, that just was the way it was. 00:40:42.146 --> 00:41:05.653 The revolutionary teaching was husbands, treat your wives as Christ, love your wives as Christ, love the church, laying your life down as a sacrifice, and not just your wife, your slave, and not just your slave everyone, because as a roman citizen, you, as a male roman citizen, had the right to mistreat any slave or non-citizen any way you pleased even more than that. 00:41:05.713 --> 00:41:14.184 I mean the, you know the, the pater familias, the, the head of the family, literally had power of life or death over everyone under him. 00:41:14.184 --> 00:41:22.500 Yeah, you know, and of course you know, killing, a unnecessarily killing of a wife or a child was frowned upon, but legally no one could do anything. 00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:24.885 They were your property. 00:41:24.905 --> 00:41:37.583 They were your property in a, in a real, in a very real sense yeah, this new ethic alone revolutionized society radically this is my words now radically reshaped the roman mind and laid found laid the foundation for western civilization. 00:41:37.583 --> 00:41:41.141 We really need to understand the gravity and grandiosity of what christendom accomplished. 00:41:41.141 --> 00:41:44.911 The kingdom christ established changed the face of the earth. 00:41:44.911 --> 00:42:02.311 And if you really want to see the thing is, even if you go to um the middle east and see the way islam is, they still have christian influence because they're a christian heresy, so they still have a bit of civility to them where this civility didn't even exist. 00:42:02.311 --> 00:42:19.050 But um tom actually went to the middle east to report on I forgot what, what I think it was like something with isis and he was seeing open-air slave markets and women sold into sex slavery and he was seeing christians crucified. 00:42:19.751 --> 00:42:33.250 And for us guys, you have to think about this he went to the middle east to do uh to do a history of of islam, islam, and to more or less kind of debunk it, and that's how dominion came to be. 00:42:33.250 --> 00:42:37.023 Someone, a critic, said to him, well, why don't you do the same thing to christianity? 00:42:37.023 --> 00:42:38.266 And he's like, okay, I will. 00:42:38.266 --> 00:42:42.181 And then he wrote a book and is, it seems to be almost. 00:42:42.181 --> 00:42:44.889 I don't want to put my first question for him. 00:42:44.909 --> 00:42:46.521 Wait till you hear my first question for that. 00:42:46.521 --> 00:42:52.052 Oh no, I gotta go, because I've heard people ask and he ducks the question all the time. 00:42:52.052 --> 00:42:54.505 But, rob, you read what he's writing in that book. 00:42:54.505 --> 00:42:57.342 You cannot read the writings of the church fathers. 00:42:57.342 --> 00:42:58.967 You cannot read the writings of the saints. 00:42:58.967 --> 00:43:03.505 You cannot read the gospels, the epistles and not face the question. 00:43:03.505 --> 00:43:04.987 Is this true? 00:43:04.987 --> 00:43:07.351 Yeah, you can't. 00:43:07.351 --> 00:43:08.094 You have to. 00:43:08.094 --> 00:43:09.342 You have to answer the question. 00:43:09.342 --> 00:43:10.063 Did this happen? 00:43:10.063 --> 00:43:10.764 Is it true? 00:43:10.764 --> 00:43:13.231 It's just, you have to think about what we worship. 00:43:13.231 --> 00:43:15.409 Think about this symbol it is a crucified man. 00:43:15.409 --> 00:43:16.293 You have to picture about what we worship. 00:43:16.293 --> 00:43:17.239 Think about this symbol it is a crucified man. 00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:24.742 You have to picture a society in which the image that they worshipped as a god was a man beheaded by a guillotine. 00:43:24.742 --> 00:43:26.547 How barbarous that would seem to you. 00:43:26.827 --> 00:43:34.610 We are so desensitized to this image especially compared to everything that came before it, I mean the, the gods of antiquity. 00:43:34.610 --> 00:43:37.175 Were you know if the slaves were the Untermenschen? 00:43:37.175 --> 00:43:38.197 The gods? 00:43:38.197 --> 00:43:39.300 Were, you know, the Ubermen? 00:43:39.300 --> 00:44:04.853 They were gods because they were powerful, because they were strong, because they were, you know, immortal, all of these things, and yet Christians had the temerity to believe in a god that was tortured, crucified and died as a slave, as a slave, as a slave, you have to understand the scandal of the cross to the Amish. 00:44:06.641 --> 00:44:19.963 It is such a scandal to them that when you read Tom's opening of just on crucifixion, that it was considered to be defiled to even look they wouldn't seek right. 00:44:19.963 --> 00:44:23.340 If you witness the crucifixion, you were considered defiled. 00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:34.208 So for the Jew to say our Messiah was strung up like a common slave, like it, is scandalous. 00:44:34.208 --> 00:44:40.389 And that's why Paul says to the Jew a stumbling block, and to the Greek folly, to the Amish. 00:44:43.943 --> 00:44:45.086 Like the cross is. 00:44:45.086 --> 00:44:48.164 To the Jew it's scandalous and to the Greek it's folly. 00:44:48.164 --> 00:44:52.608 It's like, oh, stop, yeah, yeah, yeah, the slave, okay, no, you have to understand this. 00:44:52.608 --> 00:44:59.880 Our king was crucified as a slave slave and that makes it so that slaves now have the dignity of the king. 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:07.313 Guys, what we are talking about is we're not talking about heaven. 00:45:07.313 --> 00:45:09.963 Like you have to realize what, what is going on here. 00:45:09.963 --> 00:45:10.744 Like we are. 00:45:11.103 --> 00:45:20.621 Divine adoption is the father has an inheritance to give the son and the son shares the father's inheritance with us. 00:45:20.621 --> 00:45:31.876 Like that's such a huge thing, like I don't think people ponder that enough that the, the inheritance of the father

to the son, is now ours through divine adoption. 00:45:31.876 --> 00:45:35.407 It's not about, like the protestants miss this so much. 00:45:35.407 --> 00:45:36.590 Like we are talking about. 00:45:36.590 --> 00:45:42.233 Like eye has not seen, ear has not heard what god has in store for those who are faithful to him. 00:45:42.233 --> 00:45:44.967 Like you couldn't imagine what's in store for us. 00:45:44.967 --> 00:45:49.563 And it's the whole notion of theosis, theosis and divinization. 00:45:49.563 --> 00:45:51.708 Like we are being divinized. 00:45:51.708 --> 00:46:02.730 You will be like god, like you today's world, they want to tell you you are god and they want to tell you you could change your gender and you can make life. 00:46:02.730 --> 00:46:03.932 You know, do with that wilt. 00:46:04.561 --> 00:46:20.884 No, what god wants for us is to divinize us and to make us like him and what was so different about christianity was was because divinization wasn't new to the, to antiquity right, you had pharaohs being, you know, thought of as gods. 00:46:20.884 --> 00:46:25.380 You had, yes, caesar, you know, julie caesar and caesar augustus being declared as gods. 00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:27.304 That was all you know. 00:46:27.304 --> 00:46:29.369 That was all they were used to. 00:46:29.369 --> 00:46:38.432 That it was what was different about, about this version of it is for us, you know, you know theosis becoming like God. 00:46:38.432 --> 00:46:42.099 You know we do that by picking up our own crosses, like Jesus. 00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:48.969 And, as Tom Holland says in his introduction, you know the teachings of Jesus and how he suffered. 00:46:48.969 --> 00:46:51.110 Show us that, you know. 00:46:51.110 --> 00:47:16.851 By the medieval period it was common in society, like you still had rich people and poor people and powerful and weak and all that, but there was this notion that everyone held that it was the week, it was the poor, it was the sick that were closer to Christ, that were closer to God because of their suffering, and that was something that was so radical, something that has changed the world so much to this very day. 00:47:16.851 --> 00:47:22.733 We believe the poor and the homeless have dignity because of Christianity. 00:47:23.041 --> 00:47:25.806 It's the only reason they were considered garbage. 00:47:25.806 --> 00:47:28.588 There was no value to them whatsoever. 00:47:28.588 --> 00:47:35.034 The idea of Black Lives Matter saying we need to uphold these people that are victims is a Christian idea. 00:47:35.034 --> 00:47:38.023 It is a twisting of the christian message black lives matter. 00:47:38.023 --> 00:47:48.913 Existing is due to christianity due to christianity, slavery is overturned in the world, because slavery was twice, like you, ubiquitous throughout the world right. 00:47:48.954 --> 00:47:51.764 So when you go through tom holland's book, he talks about how it was. 00:47:51.764 --> 00:47:55.552 Um, uh, oh, who was it? 00:47:55.552 --> 00:47:56.954 Basil, st Basil. 00:47:56.954 --> 00:48:01.800 St Basil is the one who starts telling the Romans you can't have slaves, like. 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.710 He starts preaching this and the Romans are like what are you talking about? 00:48:04.710 --> 00:48:07.650 You're going to upend the whole way the world works, you know. 00:48:08.583 --> 00:48:14.780 You're talking about a society that fought major, major wars to put down huge slave rebellions. 00:48:14.780 --> 00:48:19.420 Like this was literally overturning their, their world to them. 00:48:19.621 --> 00:48:22.085 Their whole world was being overturned by this. 00:48:22.085 --> 00:48:24.931 And it's like it's just. 00:48:24.931 --> 00:48:29.226 It's just so big, like when I like the. 00:48:29.226 --> 00:48:35.626 The greatest thing is when you read in the old testament where god says I will write my law on their hearts. 00:48:35.626 --> 00:48:39.728 I will circumcise their hearts, the Jews in the Old Testament. 00:48:39.728 --> 00:48:40.610 You're hard of heart. 00:48:40.610 --> 00:48:45.507 There will come a time where I will unite my people and I will write my law on their hearts. 00:48:45.507 --> 00:48:47.914 And it's like he really did it. 00:48:47.914 --> 00:48:52.505 Like when Jesus says when I am lifted up, I will draw all men to me. 00:48:52.505 --> 00:48:57.983 And when he's lifted up on the cross, this image is what we look at and he draws all men into him. 00:48:57.983 --> 00:49:07.447 These prophecies are so insane and they completely transform the face of the earth when jesus talks about the mustard seed. 00:49:07.447 --> 00:49:10.782 The mustard seed, the kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed. 00:49:10.782 --> 00:49:16.500 It starts off, it's the smallest seed, but when it, when it's fully grown, it's the smallest seed, but when it, when it's fully grown, it's the biggest tree in the garden. 00:49:16.500 --> 00:49:18.119 And that is Christianity. 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:19.224 It covers the whole earth. 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:28.284 You know if, um, so I know we're bringing up Tom Holland a ton, but, um, he talks about, uh, caravaggio. 00:49:28.284 --> 00:49:35.342 For those of you who don't know, caravaggio is a Renaissance slash, more Baroque um painter he's. 00:49:35.342 --> 00:49:37.288 He did the the calling of saint matthew. 00:49:37.288 --> 00:49:53.483 He's done really great works, but one of them he did, um on a commission from the pope was, uh, the crucifixion of saint peter, and so he's doing this at probably the height of papal power, right, the height of prestige. 00:49:53.483 --> 00:49:56.411 I mean, the pope is, is a monarch more or less, at this point. 00:49:56.411 --> 00:50:02.353 Um, and how does he immortalize the very first pope? 00:50:02.353 --> 00:50:05.481 You know, like, like, in the ancient world, how would they have done it? 00:50:05.481 --> 00:50:07.827 They would have made a statue, a temple. 00:50:08.007 -->

00:50:17.820 You know, they would have made an arch yeah right, an arch like a triumph, a triumphal arch, right yeah, how does Caravaggio do it and how did the popes want it to be done? 00:50:18.780 --> 00:50:39.302 He painted a picture of St Peter the first pope, the first monarch, more or less, of this dynasty, if you want to call it, being crucified like a slave upside down, which of course we know historically he was, course we know he's, historically he was. 00:50:39.302 --> 00:50:50.652 But like that's how central, that's how revolution, revolutionary this was, is that you had the most powerful person in the world wanting to be depicted this way instead of the way of the caesars, you know, because the pope, more or less, was the caesar of rome. 00:50:50.731 --> 00:50:53.862 At this point, look, the cross is the meaning of life. 00:50:53.862 --> 00:50:55.342 It's. 00:50:55.342 --> 00:51:00.186 It's just so counterintuitive to what human instinct and human understanding is right. 00:51:00.186 --> 00:51:08.831 It's like the idea of a man suffering on. 00:51:08.831 --> 00:51:14.335 It's the whole meaning of life. 00:51:14.335 --> 00:51:15.536 It's the whole, it's the. 00:51:15.536 --> 00:51:20.500 It's so counterintuitive to every single myth that ever existed in the history of humanity. 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:25.331 And I'm constantly trying to like, say, like, like Rob and I were fleshing it out the other day in a text. 00:51:25.331 --> 00:51:28.306 It's like okay, so they have their creation story of evolution. 00:51:28.306 --> 00:51:30.231 They have their end times. 00:51:30.231 --> 00:51:31.181 Is the apocalypse? 00:51:31.181 --> 00:51:32.344 They have their holy days. 00:51:32.344 --> 00:51:34.708 Is you know the month june, when they have pride month? 00:51:34.708 --> 00:51:36.070 They have original sin. 00:51:36.070 --> 00:51:37.012 Is racism. 00:51:37.012 --> 00:51:38.655 They have like all these things. 00:51:38.655 --> 00:51:39.916 They have their religion. 00:51:39.916 --> 00:51:41.519 This is the religion that's coming up. 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:49.543 So, like, you have to understand this religion is so tightly knit into this whole idea of babylon coming, and it's going to be. 00:51:49.543 --> 00:51:52.650 This is going to be the pinch of incense for us guys. 00:51:52.650 --> 00:52:08.632 This is going to be like so if you, if you understand what happens in the diaspora, so the, the 12 northern, the 12 tribes of israel split off, the 10 northern tribes get dispersed amongst the nations and the two southern tribes are are judah and benjamin, I think. 00:52:08.632 --> 00:52:12.992 So they get taken into babylon but the other tribes I'm sorry. 00:52:13.012 --> 00:52:26.193 The 10 tribes are conquered by the assyrians beforehand, right beforehand and completely dispersed throughout it's amongst the gentiles, so much so that they become gentiles like they really are gentiles now. 00:52:26.193 --> 00:52:32.306 God has these prophecies in the old testament that he's going to reunite his people. 00:52:32.306 --> 00:52:34.431 So it's like actually have. 00:52:34.431 --> 00:52:35.733 Do you want me to pull it up? 00:52:35.733 --> 00:52:36.425 Um, yeah, let me just make sure I got them. 00:52:36.425 --> 00:52:36.641 Knight his people. 00:52:36.641 --> 00:52:37.262 So it's like actually happened. 00:52:37.262 --> 00:52:37.356 Do you want me to pull it up? 00:52:37.356 --> 00:52:38.530 Yeah, let me just make sure I got them. 00:52:38.530 --> 00:52:46.487 It's Jeremiah 23. 00:52:46.487 --> 00:52:59.289 Then I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of the lands where I have driven them and I will bring them back to their fold, and they shall be fruitful and multiply. 00:52:59.289 --> 00:53:16.480 Then again, in Ezekiel 20, 33, he says as I live, sayeth the Lord God, I will reign over you with a strong hand and will stretch out and a stretched out arm and with fury poured out, and I will bring you out from the people and I will gather you out of the countries in which you are scattered. 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:21.431 I will reign over you with a strong hand and with a stretched out arm and with fury poured out. 00:53:21.431 --> 00:53:25.960 God disperses the unfaithful. 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.152 So look, the ten northern tribes rebel against the house of David. 00:53:30.152 --> 00:53:31.324 They are unfaithful. 00:53:31.324 --> 00:53:33.246 They are worshiping idols. 00:53:33.246 --> 00:53:36.028 God disperses them and has the Assyrians conquer them. 00:53:36.028 --> 00:53:37.961 They're worshiping idols. 00:53:37.961 --> 00:53:39.184 God disperses them and has the assyrians conquer them. 00:53:39.184 --> 00:53:42.601 Then he has the babylonians come in and destroy the temple because the southern tribes start messing around with this stuff. 00:53:42.601 --> 00:53:51.786 But god promises he will reunite all 12 tribes, and these 12 tribes are dispersed amongst the nation, so much so that they're gentiles. 00:53:51.786 --> 00:53:57.610 At this point, the only way god can actually bring them back in is by converting the Gentiles. 00:53:58.001 --> 00:54:01.192 Now, we really did do this whole episode to set up the next. 00:54:01.192 --> 00:54:02.757 The next episode. 00:54:02.757 --> 00:54:05.547 We're actually going to get into the Danielic mystery. 00:54:05.547 --> 00:54:10.766 I really hope you guys come and stay for that one, because that's when we're going to be diving into scripture in a way. 00:54:10.766 --> 00:54:21.170 This is the, this is the, the, the, the, the typological fulfillment that, like, changed my understanding of the church, changed my understanding of what god was doing and everything. 00:54:21.170 --> 00:54:22.561 It's like a lot of people think. 00:54:22.561 --> 00:54:30.286 Ephesians is about marriage and husbands and wives submitting to their husbands putting on the armor of god and it's a. 00:54:30.586 --> 00:54:33.793 This is where the church gets its

ecclesiology from. 00:54:33.793 --> 00:54:37.168 It's from ephesians. 00:54:37.168 --> 00:54:38.050 You guys want me to. 00:54:38.050 --> 00:54:39.822 Should we do it in one episode? 00:54:40.505 --> 00:54:40.846 I don't know. 00:54:40.846 --> 00:54:51.822 I mean, it's already been an hour, I think, I think, because what happens if we go another hour and you're still not done right, I know, I think it'd be better, I don't think I could do it in a half hour. 00:54:51.862 --> 00:54:52.402 I think we're gonna. 00:54:52.402 --> 00:54:53.967 So, like we really, rob. 00:54:53.967 --> 00:55:02.353 And I taught look, rob, I I actually was gonna have rob listen to the the, the talk by scott han, and I said you know what, rob, maybe you shouldn't. 00:55:02.353 --> 00:55:05.827 Um, I said why don't you help me with this first episode? 00:55:05.827 --> 00:55:11.047 And like, uh, you know, help me, help me tell people really how strange this world was. 00:55:11.047 --> 00:55:18.130 But I kind of want rob to listen to me tell the story so I could get a raw reaction and see how it's going. 00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.369 As you all know, Anthony is at his best as a storyteller. 00:55:21.750 --> 00:55:21.891 Yes. 00:55:23.161 --> 00:55:27.067 If I know where we're going and if I interject. 00:55:27.067 --> 00:55:32.775 It's going to be best if Anthony tells a story and he can watch me listen. 00:55:33.260 --> 00:55:39.092 Yeah, because I really think I need to see a reaction, to see if it's like hitting a light bulb. 00:55:39.092 --> 00:55:47.927 But I'm going to read one little thing from Paul, because what is it, so I can throw it up on screen. 00:55:47.927 --> 00:55:50.487 It's Ephesians 1, I believe. 00:55:50.487 --> 00:55:57.278 Let me just make sure, definitely Ephesians 1. 00:55:57.278 --> 00:56:04.172 Let me just see what verse Ephesians 1. 00:56:04.172 --> 00:56:06.829 Let's see. 00:56:10.295 --> 00:56:11.280 I just have all of Ephesians. 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.347 I don't know if people can even see that. 00:56:13.661 --> 00:56:16.860 Okay, ephesians 1 17 I don't know if people can even see that. 00:56:16.860 --> 00:56:21.766 Okay, ephesians 1.17. 00:56:21.766 --> 00:56:46.215 That the God of our Lord, jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom, of revelation in the knowledge of him, having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his like. 00:56:46.215 --> 00:56:49.739 Have the eyes of your heart enlightened and have a spirit of revelation. 00:56:49.739 --> 00:56:53.311 Like Paul is in captivity at this point. 00:56:53.311 --> 00:56:54.985 This isn't a, this is they call. 00:56:54.985 --> 00:56:56.751 Call this the captivity epistle. 00:56:56.751 --> 00:57:06.748 Paul's in Rome as a prisoner and he's meditating on all these things and he's like his mind is going. 00:57:06.748 --> 00:57:12.367 He's like this is when he's caught up to the third heaven and he can't even describe the things that he's seen. 00:57:12.367 --> 00:57:13.811 Paul's like on fire. 00:57:13.811 --> 00:57:16.007 He's like you guys don't even know what God's showing. 00:57:16.007 --> 00:57:17.382 Me Sounds like you're going poles like on fire. 00:57:17.402 --> 00:57:20.974 He's like you guys don't even know what god's showing me sounds like you're gonna be on fire here. 00:57:20.994 --> 00:57:28.192 It's like, if you listen to me, I'm telling you, when I told my, when I told this to my wife, like I was so like lit up telling her about it. 00:57:28.192 --> 00:57:33.369 She was like, anthony, I've never seen you like, I've never seen you so lit up like this she was. 00:57:33.369 --> 00:57:39.585 My wife had such a powerful experience of me telling her the story that she was the one that convinced me to tell it. 00:57:39.585 --> 00:57:52.431 I told you so it's like you really have to like when you read scripture, man, it's like, especially when Paul's telling you something like this, like Paul's like, really like guys, you have to really listen to what I'm telling you. 00:57:52.431 --> 00:57:54.911 Let the eyes of your heart really be enlivened. 00:57:54.911 --> 00:57:57.460 Margo making fun of me. 00:57:57.460 --> 00:58:19.541 I thought she was making fun of me and he's like now anthony is gonna have rob show a video oh, man oh joe, you almost killed me with that one dude listen the thing is um, I freaking love doing this. 00:58:19.621 --> 00:58:27.784 It's like I I have you get noticeably worked up in a good way yeah, it's like there's there's so many different sides to being catholic. 00:58:27.844 --> 00:58:35.621 It's like we me and rob really want to show everybody like it is about being joyful and being buds and like like, really just like sharing your faith with each other. 00:58:35.621 --> 00:58:38.039 But then there's these deep things about being Catholic. 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:43.592 That's like it's still so exciting when you learn something new and there's so much to learn. 00:58:43.592 --> 00:58:51.809 It's like when, when one of these things happens and you get that little bit of revelation in your heart and in your mind, it's such an exciting thing. 00:58:51.809 --> 00:58:54.802 It's like it really does it it. 00:58:54.802 --> 00:58:57.733 It touches you in a way and you're's like it really does it it. 00:58:57.733 --> 00:59:04.146 It touches you in a way and you're just like God man, you're still active in history, you're still working and we're and everything we're seeing right now really was foretold. 00:59:04.387 --> 00:59:08.041 It's like when Christ says he says when I return, will there be any faith left. 00:59:08.041 --> 00:59:13.731 It's it's it's true Like you're going to see this great falling away of the faith. 00:59:13.731 --> 00:59:17.155 People are going to leave the faith and you are going to feel like you're the only one. 00:59:17.155 --> 00:59:25.402 And that's kind of what we're

trying to do here is build this community of people and try to say hey guys, you're not alone, like like we we need to. 00:59:25.402 --> 00:59:38.650 We're kind of building an arc here right, like we're waiting for the flood to come and we're just building an arc of people that we know believe what we believe and love what we love, that we know believe what we believe and love what we love and we just we want to know that we're not. 00:59:38.650 --> 00:59:41.963 Because, rob, how many people in your regular life, aside besides hope, do you really get to have these conversations with? 00:59:43.085 --> 00:59:51.672 not not many, unfortunately really not many, and it's like I can't tell you how happy I am that I met you when we became friends and we're able to do that. 00:59:51.672 --> 01:00:07.331 I mean, we started up doing trivia dude, like sort of doing trivia, and now we're starting to like get into some of these deeper things and it's such that awful chewbacca noise from steven I wish I still had that that would have been a great clip or a great short man. 01:00:07.793 --> 01:00:12.295 It's like neighbor guy says like you, never stop finding new depths you love. 01:00:12.295 --> 01:00:17.467 And what I'm telling you is that the story I'm going to tell next episode with the danielic mystery. 01:00:17.467 --> 01:00:19.612 I promise you you've never heard it like. 01:00:19.612 --> 01:00:22.726 I've looked all over the internet for it and I can't find it anywhere. 01:00:22.726 --> 01:00:25.481 The only place you could get it is this this conference. 01:00:25.481 --> 01:00:27.367 Scott hon gave to priests. 01:00:28.329 --> 01:00:35.447 It's like he it's buried on his website, deep in the archives of the saint paul's, like you had me go looking for it. 01:00:35.447 --> 01:00:37.012 It's like click this Now. 01:00:37.012 --> 01:00:37.922 Click this Now. 01:00:37.922 --> 01:00:39.599 Click this down here Now click this over here. 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:40.021 It really was. 01:00:40.041 --> 01:00:41.106 When I tried to help him find it. 01:00:41.106 --> 01:00:42.304 I'm like, alright, dude, you gotta go through. 01:00:42.304 --> 01:00:43.547 It's so hard to find it. 01:00:43.547 --> 01:00:47.721 It's like this priest lecture series he gave, the other one he did. 01:00:47.721 --> 01:01:27.980 It was called Will All Israel Be Saved no-transcript. 01:01:27.980 --> 01:01:32.860 Biblical scholars, especially Protestant scholars, think Paul is referring to the mystery religions, like he. 01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:46.144 They think he's talking about Hellenism, like you know, talking about the cult of Mithra, and it's like no, you know when we really found out what he was talking about is when you, when you go through the Dead Sea Scrolls, and in the Dead Sea Scrolls they talk about mystery a lot. 01:01:46.144 --> 01:01:48.393 And it's like Paul is referencing. 01:01:48.393 --> 01:01:49.356 He says mystery. 01:01:49.356 --> 01:02:04.911 He is referencing the only place in the Old Testament that talks about mystery is the book of daniel, when daniel's talking about the mystery of nebuchadnezzar's dream and he says I can't reveal the dream to you, but I can pray to the lord god and maybe he will reveal it to me if he is merciful. 01:02:05.554 --> 01:02:23.889 And then I thought I found the greatest, the greatest art for the thumb, for a thumbnail, uh, for nebuchadnezzar's dream, and I was going to use it until I realized it was from the JWs, of course, yeah, but From Watchtower I'm like uh, no never mind, oh the JWs Witnesses. 01:02:23.889 --> 01:02:25.806 No, not the Amish. 01:02:31.161 --> 01:02:32.065 Yeah, it's just. 01:02:32.065 --> 01:02:32.425 Uh. 01:02:32.425 --> 01:02:36.043 Look, the thing is, we know these videos aren't going to get huge views. 01:02:36.043 --> 01:02:37.106 I know they're not. 01:02:37.106 --> 01:02:39.969 I don't care, because right now we have 30 people in here. 01:02:39.969 --> 01:02:44.255 If you guys want to learn something about your faith, I don't care if it's only 30 people that watch it. 01:02:44.255 --> 01:02:48.201 If it really. 01:02:48.221 --> 01:02:49.722 I do think it's going to mean something to you guys. 01:02:49.722 --> 01:02:55.030 So if you guys are willing to stick it through for this next episode, I really do think it's going to light your heart up and you're gonna be excited about the faith. 01:02:55.271 --> 01:03:00.925 At the very least, guys do it for me, because anthony has been talking about this subject since the morning. 01:03:00.925 --> 01:03:04.019 He called me after the first trivia episode not even kidding. 01:03:04.019 --> 01:03:05.384 No, I'm serious. 01:03:05.423 --> 01:03:08.231 He mentioned no joke like 7 am on the phone. 01:03:08.231 --> 01:03:14.007 I have wanted to do this episode since I started the channel and I didn't know how to do it. 01:03:14.007 --> 01:03:18.327 And I'm like, now that I have rob here and I'm like, all right, I think I could do it with you. 01:03:18.327 --> 01:03:24.449 I really wanted to get scott hahn for it, I wanted to have him on and I thought maybe we could get maybe chris plants to do it with us. 01:03:24.449 --> 01:03:27.762 But it's like what are you gonna do? 01:03:27.762 --> 01:03:28.422 Let's just do it. 01:03:28.422 --> 01:03:28.903 You know? 01:03:28.903 --> 01:03:30.346 I mean, I've heard. 01:03:30.686 --> 01:03:35.733 You all know that if he gets scott hahn on, we have no problem doing it again. 01:03:35.833 --> 01:03:38.644 Anyway, yeah, and not just that. 01:03:38.644 --> 01:03:42.804 Scott Hahn, like when he got, when he comes on, he, he makes the joke. 01:03:42.804 --> 01:03:46.347 He's like, yeah, I know, when I get going it's like trying to drink out of a fire hydrant, cause it is. 01:03:46.347 --> 01:03:53.146 It's like he comes out so fast and with so much information it's like if word, you're gonna miss it. 01:03:53.146 --> 01:03:56.733 So I'm gonna cut out like the scott hahn talks an

hour and a half. 01:03:56.733 --> 01:04:03.943 There's 40 minutes of stuff I could cut out of that and just tell you guys the you know the good parts of the story. 01:04:03.943 --> 01:04:07.030 So scott hahn gets into a lot of the meticulous stuff. 01:04:07.030 --> 01:04:20.920 He's like, uh, I'll tell you right now, if you go, word for word, what scott hahn says, because I actually I wrote it out and it's like, um, let's say, you wrote it out, the whole talk. 01:04:20.940 --> 01:04:21.882 No, no, not the whole thing. 01:04:21.942 --> 01:04:26.860 It's like uh wow, like it's like Paul uses the word mystery in the book of Ephesians. 01:04:26.860 --> 01:04:29.168 It's the only place the word is used in Paul's letters. 01:04:29.168 --> 01:04:31.543 In the original Greek the word mysterion is used six times. 01:04:31.543 --> 01:04:37.050 There is only one book in the old testament where this word is used and it's used six times, and that book is the book of Daniel, where the word is also used six times. 01:04:37.050 --> 01:04:42.840 Like he just he's going into like the words and things like that, and it's like you don't need to go into that much detail. 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:55.373 It's like you guys understand the mystery that Paul's drawing on is from the book of Daniel and you guys will see that this image is a photographic negative of the body of Christ and is a photographic negative of the body of Christ. 01:04:55.373 --> 01:05:04.157 And the reason Paul calls the church the body of Christ is because this image of the body and the body of Christ is not just the church but it's also the body of Christ as the Eucharist. 01:05:04.157 --> 01:05:14.985 And and we're going to have to get into explaining the significance of the temple to everybody Like the temple is so important to ancient Israel, it's their universe. 01:05:14.985 --> 01:05:38.960 It's like so when, when jesus is describing the end of the world in matthew 24, he's describing what's going to happen in 70 ad, when the romans come and destroy the temple, because that is the end of the world for the jews, like it is the end of their world they have, so that they can't have a religion without it right and and, but even inside the temple is these symbols to signify the universe? 01:05:39.021 --> 01:05:44.217 it's like the temple mount is and, and the altar inside the holy of holies is. 01:05:44.217 --> 01:05:47.909 Is the temple mount where the garden of eden was supposed to be. 01:05:47.909 --> 01:05:57.168 It's like there's so much like some symbolism behind it and and when you look at like the threefold structure of the temple, you have the holy of holies, the inner court and the outer court. 01:05:57.168 --> 01:06:11.574 It's like that's also the spiritual life, where you have the purgative way, the illuminative way and the unitive way, and there's so much symbolism behind all these things that we do that I'm excited to tell the story. 01:06:11.574 --> 01:06:13.362 So we're at over an

hour and I figured this would be a two episode series. 01:06:13.362 --> 01:06:15.925 So we're at over an hour and I figured this would be a two episode series. 01:06:15.925 --> 01:06:21.494 I think we did a good job setting up why we want to do it and what this ancient world looks like. 01:06:25.568 --> 01:06:26.817 So I guess we should change the title to part one. 01:06:26.817 --> 01:06:29.565 Yeah, we should have done that, but I wasn't sure I didn't know. 01:06:29.585 --> 01:06:31.510 I had no idea how long this would take. 01:06:31.510 --> 01:06:36.503 I had no idea any of it, so we'll leave it that this is part one. 01:06:36.503 --> 01:06:37.710 Do you want to do it Thursday? 01:06:39.101 --> 01:06:40.648 No, you can't remember. 01:06:41.099 --> 01:06:42.123 No, that's next Thursday. 01:06:42.123 --> 01:06:42.523 We're doing. 01:06:42.523 --> 01:06:43.266 No, I mean you're. 01:06:43.286 --> 01:06:43.706 Catholic. 01:06:43.706 --> 01:06:45.291 No, it's not, it's 5-4. 01:06:45.981 --> 01:06:47.123 Tim texted me 5-11. 01:06:47.123 --> 01:06:50.644 Oh, maybe I think he had the date wrong. 01:06:50.644 --> 01:06:51.507 I think it's 5-11. 01:06:51.507 --> 01:06:59.539 Okay, so I'm going to be hosting something on the Catechism series on Meaning of Catholic on May 11. 01:06:59.539 --> 01:07:01.753 I'm pretty sure it's May 11, in my emails it's May 11. 01:07:01.773 --> 01:07:09.867 I think Tim had the date wrong it's being done in conjunction with Steve Cunningham but Steve's not going to be on. 01:07:11.858 --> 01:07:13.947 Oh, he's not going to be on with us. 01:07:13.947 --> 01:07:18.315 He set it up but he's not going to be on, so it'll be on Meaning of Catholic's not going to be on with us? 01:07:18.315 --> 01:07:18.905 He set it up but he's not going to be on, so it'll be on Meaning of Catholic. 01:07:18.905 --> 01:07:27.512 I'm going to host it and just kind of be like the, because I'm not nearly as knowledgeable on catechisms as these guys. 01:07:27.512 --> 01:07:33.690 I might add a thing in here or there, but Because it's being done in conjunction with Tratavox. 01:07:33.690 --> 01:07:35.746 The release of new catechism. 01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:54.391 Well, just with the trademarks, series of catechisms, okay, so, um, yeah, it should be great, but yeah, those guys are going to be, they're going to yeah, it's going to be a multi-part series we're doing on on meaning of catholic and it's going to be several different guests coming on kennedy hall might pop in. 01:07:54.391 --> 01:07:56.041 Um, there's a. 01:07:56.041 --> 01:08:01.726 There's a few people on the list of people that they wanted to come in and discuss with it, so I will. 01:08:01.726 --> 01:08:14.284 I will be on meaning of Catholic next Thursday, but I say, look, let me think about it tonight and tomorrow, we may do this next Tuesday and then Thursday we'll get back to a regular wall, cause I don't want to just do this. 01:08:14.284 --> 01:08:17.394 So Thursday we'll get back

to a regular walk because I don't want to just do this. 01:08:17.394 --> 01:08:18.677 So maybe Thursday we'll do a regular off the rails. 01:08:18.677 --> 01:08:20.707 Maybe we'll get, you know, enoch or somebody, rick Barrett or somebody. 01:08:20.726 --> 01:08:22.797 We'll get one of our friends to come on and hang with us. 01:08:22.797 --> 01:08:25.507 No, when do we have Father Maudsley on? 01:08:25.507 --> 01:08:26.282 Is that this weekend? 01:08:26.442 --> 01:08:30.585 Oh, this Saturday, this Saturday, okay, so listen to this. 01:08:30.585 --> 01:08:38.442 So I was texting. 01:08:38.783 --> 01:08:40.667 Father Maudsley and he goes Anthony, so I forgot he's in England. 01:08:40.667 --> 01:08:41.228 He's not in America, right? 01:08:41.228 --> 01:08:41.649 So our times are. 01:08:41.649 --> 01:08:43.172 So he's texting me at 3 am. 01:08:43.172 --> 01:08:46.788 I'm like what is this guy doing up at 3 am? 01:08:46.788 --> 01:08:48.380 But they're five hours ahead of us, so it was really 8 am by him. 01:08:48.380 --> 01:08:57.953 So I missed him the first day and I said look, I'm up at you know, I'm up at 5 am Eastern time or whatever. 01:08:57.953 --> 01:08:58.854 So we wind up talking. 01:08:58.854 --> 01:09:06.173 He calls me and I'm like, I'm like father, I don't want to talk about the hierarchy, because he has that talk that he gave at the CIC conference. 01:09:06.173 --> 01:09:10.722 Resist, francis with all your heart, or something I said I kind of I don't want to talk about the hierarchy. 01:09:10.764 --> 01:09:12.024 I said I've seen your channel. 01:09:12.024 --> 01:09:14.448 You're one of the most brilliant scripture scholars. 01:09:14.448 --> 01:09:17.072 I said I really would love to do something on typology. 01:09:17.072 --> 01:09:19.835 I said do you have any like ideas or something we could do? 01:09:19.835 --> 01:09:26.453 He goes well, he goes, uh, who are, who are the three major uh patriarchs in the old testament? 01:09:26.453 --> 01:09:30.887 I said uh uh, abraham, moses and david. 01:09:30.887 --> 01:09:36.167 He goes okay, let's go with that and I'm going to show you how those three patriarchs foreshadow the holy trinity. 01:09:36.167 --> 01:09:40.600 And I'm like let's go, let's, and I'm going to show you how those three patriarchs foreshadow the Holy Trinity, and I'm like let's go, let's do it. 01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:41.524 I said did you see anything on our channel at all? 01:09:41.524 --> 01:09:41.693 I asked him. 01:09:41.693 --> 01:09:42.390 I was like, have you watched it? 01:09:42.390 --> 01:09:42.563 He goes. 01:09:42.563 --> 01:09:44.770 I got to be honest, I'm very impressed with the stuff you and Robert are doing. 01:09:53.207 --> 01:09:56.088 It's really really very good it is so weird hearing stuff like that, like I can't, like. 01:09:56.088 --> 01:10:00.311 He actually checked some of the stuff on our channel out and he actually enjoyed it and I was just like. 01:10:00.311 --> 01:10:03.875 I was just so excited, I cannot wait to talk to him. 01:10:03.875 --> 01:10:06.256 And he's like do you mind if I take some clips from my channel? 01:10:06.256 --> 01:10:11.605 I'm like you can take the whole episode, I don't care, I don't. 01:10:11.605 --> 01:10:15.792 Yeah, so we're going to do it Saturday morning, 8 am Eastern, which will be 7 am by you. 01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:19.923 That'll be before your boys wake up. 01:10:19.923 --> 01:10:24.180 I figured, depending on how lucky or unlucky I am, it's all right, come on. 01:10:24.180 --> 01:10:29.868 It'll be what it is Do we have anything else scheduled right now? 01:10:29.868 --> 01:10:34.094 I know I'm scheduled to be on that CVS podcast at some point. 01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:36.801 He was fun to talk to. 01:10:36.801 --> 01:10:36.903 He. 01:10:36.903 --> 01:10:37.505 He's interesting. 01:10:37.505 --> 01:10:38.782 He's a very interesting guy. 01:10:38.782 --> 01:10:40.345 He asks good questions. 01:10:40.345 --> 01:10:47.841 He's gonna start off asking you about you and then he's gonna get into the faith and I don't like talking about me the way because I've told my story so many times. 01:10:47.841 --> 01:10:48.724 I do like talk. 01:10:48.724 --> 01:10:50.429 I make like making references to me. 01:10:50.429 --> 01:11:02.386 I don't like telling my conversion it's a boring conversion story so but once we started talking about the faith, that's what I really liked that interview, because he was asking me questions and it was all stuff I knew about and I was like oh, I can answer this. 01:11:02.447 --> 01:11:04.051 I can answer this um? 01:11:04.353 --> 01:11:07.921 have we set up times for father isaac again, or? 01:11:08.663 --> 01:11:08.783 I. 01:11:08.783 --> 01:11:12.850 I can get father isaac on anytime, like he. 01:11:12.850 --> 01:11:15.921 Father isaac and I are on a phone call basis. 01:11:15.921 --> 01:11:21.287 Now he calls me and when you get him on the phone, he gets on the phone and he talks to you and he's just. 01:11:21.287 --> 01:11:32.645 He'll like I don't even know if we need a topic with him, because you just say one thing to him and he can go like you don't really need to, to like you could just give him a topic and he'll go, you know, so maybe we'll. 01:11:32.985 --> 01:11:36.829 Maybe we should talk about the saints and stuff like that with him I'd love. 01:11:36.930 --> 01:11:49.529 Yeah, you know, like I know of um saint alphonsus, obviously right, and like I've used a lot of his um, a lot of his like meditations. 01:11:49.529 --> 01:11:52.823 For instance, his stations of the cross is the one that I grew up with. 01:11:52.823 --> 01:11:58.587 You know, that's's the one I basically have that memorized almost from serving it so many times. 01:11:58.587 --> 01:12:05.668 So I know St Alphonsus, but I haven't read a lot of his moral theology or know a lot about him personally. 01:12:05.668 --> 01:12:10.050 So maybe it'd be cool to do an in-depth episode on St Alphonsus.

01:12:10.650 --> 01:12:21.606 Yeah, maybe We'll think of something to bring, because I love talking to him man, he's just such a great guy and he's just like he's just so passionate about the faith. 01:12:21.606 --> 01:12:42.628 Even still, it's like he just loves our Lord man, and you can tell he just still has that deep, deep love for our lady and I tell you he challenged me to start trying to pray all three all three of the rosary and I got two in today and I was like, oh man, I just got to get that third in. 01:12:43.381 --> 01:12:48.792 Just ask your uncle if his little camera will get you in trouble if you're praying while you drive. 01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:50.184 Oh, I make sure he sees it. 01:12:50.184 --> 01:12:51.287 You kidding me? 01:12:51.287 --> 01:12:53.487 I hold it Because you can't see my face in the camera. 01:12:53.487 --> 01:12:55.386 He installed it behind the rearview mirror. 01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:56.104 Thank God yeah. 01:12:56.405 --> 01:13:00.408 So you can only see my hands, and I hold the rosary right in my hand right in front of the camera. 01:13:01.801 --> 01:13:03.225 I don't care man, he knows. 01:13:03.686 --> 01:13:05.060 Yeah, he knows he. 01:13:05.060 --> 01:13:07.685 Actually, I think somebody must have told him I have this channel because he goes. 01:13:07.685 --> 01:13:13.322 You forgot to renew a permit, instead of doing your stupid videos when you get home, what do you? 01:13:13.341 --> 01:13:13.943 your stupid videos, when you? 01:13:13.962 --> 01:13:14.323 get home. 01:13:14.363 --> 01:13:15.484 I don't know who told them. 01:13:15.923 --> 01:13:17.725 But somebody told them I'm doing something. 01:13:17.725 --> 01:13:18.646 I don't know if he watches. 01:13:18.646 --> 01:13:22.088 I don't think he watches, but I hope not. 01:13:22.168 --> 01:13:24.350 What's some of the things you've said? 01:13:24.350 --> 01:13:26.132 No, I know I'll be in trouble. 01:13:26.273 --> 01:13:27.493 Oh my goodness. 01:13:27.493 --> 01:13:29.676 Yeah, this is a FOMO man. 01:13:29.676 --> 01:13:32.380 I honestly, I guys, please leave comments man. 01:13:32.380 --> 01:13:33.984 It comments, man, it really does help. 01:13:33.984 --> 01:13:40.246 Um, we also have, like so many people that watch the channel aren't subscribed and we're so bad about telling people to subscribe. 01:13:40.246 --> 01:13:43.292 But also the telegram, guys, please. 01:13:43.313 --> 01:13:50.784 If you're finding any charity in your hearts, please locals locals, I'm sorry, locals if you find any charity in your heart, like rob. 01:13:50.784 --> 01:13:52.270 Rob and I really want to keep doing this. 01:13:52.270 --> 01:13:54.436 I we're going to um. 01:13:54.436 --> 01:13:56.805 Once we form a community on locals. 01:13:56.805 --> 01:13:59.382 We're going to be very interactive with it. 01:13:59.382 --> 01:14:02.551 We're going to let you guys decide what we do with that community. 01:14:02.551 --> 01:14:03.842 We're going to give you guys options. 01:14:03.842 --> 01:14:13.985 You guys could tell us what you want us to bring there, whether that is, you guys want to do trivia there, whether you want us to do these kind of episodes over there, like the deeper dives into scripture and stuff like that over there. 01:14:13.985 --> 01:14:17.434 Whatever you guys would rather be just for the locals community, we'll do there. 01:14:17.753 --> 01:14:33.037 I'd like to keep the interviews and stuff like that over here probably, yeah, ideally, I'd like anything like um, true, you know that can be like truly uh worthwhile, you know, like actually provide something to be available to anyone. 01:14:33.037 --> 01:14:42.216 Yeah, and then the more the community related stuff like trivia or or other sort of stuff like that, I think in my vision would be locals. 01:14:42.557 --> 01:14:56.207 I think you're right about that and I would like to bring the people in our locals on with us, like if we're in locals, like we'll do an episode each week and we'll bring like two people from the local community on with us and the idea is it's within locals. 01:14:56.287 --> 01:14:57.970 It's not going to hit public YouTube. 01:14:58.091 --> 01:15:12.493 Exactly, yeah, it'll just be within the community and we'll, and we'll be able to hang you guys, We'll, we'll do a regular off the rails episode where I have videos and stuff and you guys can pop in with us and actually do commentary on the videos and things like that with us. 01:15:12.493 --> 01:15:18.567 So stay away from crisis in the church stuff it's and things like that with us, so stay away from crisis in the church stuff. 01:15:18.587 --> 01:15:18.927 It's the I, jeff. 01:15:18.927 --> 01:15:19.430 I could not agree more. 01:15:19.430 --> 01:15:19.771 That's really. 01:15:19.771 --> 01:15:20.956 Look, that's what this episode is about. 01:15:20.956 --> 01:15:22.962 We want to do the glory of the faith. 01:15:22.962 --> 01:15:24.467 We don't want to do crisis in the church stuff. 01:15:24.467 --> 01:15:26.783 The problem is the crisis in the stars in the church. 01:15:26.783 --> 01:15:27.447 Stuff gets clicks. 01:15:27.447 --> 01:15:29.054 It's really annoying. 01:15:29.054 --> 01:15:40.287 It's very difficult to grow your channel when you're not doing that stuff, and we're really trying not to there, you know there are phrases, words that we could put in the title that we know would drive. 01:15:40.568 --> 01:15:49.073 You know, there are subjects we know that are a gold mine so, rob, I don't want, I want, I want to keep it at five dollars unlimited, like I don't. 01:15:49.073 --> 01:15:52.770 You know, like, unless somebody just wants to be charitable and give us more than that, we're not going to be. 01:15:52.770 --> 01:15:53.001 Like. 01:15:53.001 --> 01:15:55.569 You can't access this unless you give extra money. 01:15:55.890 --> 01:15:56.493 I don't want to do that. 01:15:56.493 --> 01:15:58.747 It is $5 per month. 01:15:58.747 --> 01:16:00.184 I think

Locals has a. 01:16:00.184 --> 01:16:03.467 I didn't see where to set it up. 01:16:03.467 --> 01:16:08.208 I think they just do it automatically where they also have an annual subscription that gives you a percentage off. 01:16:08.208 --> 01:16:09.783 I might be wrong about that. 01:16:09.783 --> 01:16:17.561 There was an additional level I set up for $10 a month where you'd be able to message anthony and I directly. 01:16:17.561 --> 01:16:18.664 But you guys could do that honestly. 01:16:18.704 --> 01:16:24.109 You can do that on telegram or twitter anyway, and the thing is honestly, if you guys are going to give 10, it's just because you love what we do. 01:16:24.109 --> 01:16:25.462 It's not because we're offering it. 01:16:25.462 --> 01:16:30.783 Whatever we do on locals, you will get full access to it for the five bucks a month and they're, uh, they're. 01:16:31.203 --> 01:16:43.287 if there's ever some say you don't want to join the monthly, if there's a specific show you want to watch on Locals, we set it up for like a $2 one-time, you know sort of like for that show thing. 01:16:43.287 --> 01:16:50.649 Otherwise, like we've also said, if you ever want to be a part of it and just can't afford it, or money side or whatever, whatever. 01:16:51.823 --> 01:16:54.539 Once we have 50 members, we can give free memberships away. 01:16:54.539 --> 01:17:00.060 So it's like we don't want anybody being put out at all Like that's not what this is about. 01:17:00.060 --> 01:17:09.335 We want to just be able to like, honestly, if we could get it so that I'm like Rob cannot have to work his second job and I cannot have to work Saturdays, that would be the dream. 01:17:09.335 --> 01:17:17.171 I'm not looking to make this my career, just enough that I can maybe cut some of the the construction work out and I could just spend that time focused on this. 01:17:17.171 --> 01:17:18.693 That would be amazing and I would love to. 01:17:18.693 --> 01:17:20.475 I would love to be able to do that. 01:17:20.475 --> 01:17:23.645 So we are uh, we are, we're on our way. 01:17:23.645 --> 01:17:29.403 This is, and I hope you guys stick around the grift is on, the grift is on. 01:17:29.743 --> 01:17:32.931 But, guys, we're trying to bring you guys something, something different, like it. 01:17:32.931 --> 01:17:39.409 You don't realize how hard it is to like to come up with original content, like everybody else is doing the same stuff. 01:17:39.409 --> 01:17:48.240 Think about it when there's a, when something major happens in the church you see the rundown of every single show does that topic we don't like. 01:17:48.240 --> 01:17:49.724 We're really trying it's it's. 01:17:49.724 --> 01:17:52.288 It's very, very difficult to be original. 01:17:52.288 --> 01:17:56.707 So um and don says just enough for a small private jet. 01:17:56.707 --> 01:17:58.317 Do an hour. 01:17:58.317 --> 01:18:06.069 I'd be okay with the prop play purgatory and how to avoid it, all the indulgences

available to catholics and how to live thinking about it daily to help those suffering. 01:18:06.690 --> 01:18:17.252 That's a great idea for a show if anyone wants, literally like the book of indulgences, it's called the recolta r-o-c-c-o-l-t-a. 01:18:17.252 --> 01:18:17.872 It is a. 01:18:17.872 --> 01:18:25.640 It is a collection of all the indulgence prayers and actions that the church had at the point it was published, but not just that. 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.247 Like you see what jeff's saying, like, um, the. 01:18:28.247 --> 01:18:36.090 The thing is I I'm trying to also get this point across to people it so much of what's going on now is about attention. 01:18:36.090 --> 01:18:40.225 Like all these things are trying to pull our attention away from god. 01:18:40.225 --> 01:18:50.904 Our phones, the, the crap we listen to, the things we watch, the drama in the church the drama in the church is another thing trying to pull our attention away from god. 01:18:50.904 --> 01:18:55.177 It's like know what's going on and then be okay with it. 01:18:55.177 --> 01:18:57.244 Understand that god knows what's happening. 01:18:57.244 --> 01:18:59.411 God is in control, he knows everything. 01:18:59.881 --> 01:19:04.287 Especially consider your state in life, Like if you're not a bishop or a cardinal. 01:19:04.787 --> 01:19:05.510 It's not your job. 01:19:05.689 --> 01:19:06.921 It's not your job, you know. 01:19:06.921 --> 01:19:11.131 If you're a father, your job is to get you, your wife and your family to heaven. 01:19:11.131 --> 01:19:19.507 If you're single, your job, well, is to probably find a wife or husband or you know, or religious or religious life. 01:19:19.507 --> 01:19:21.152 But, like you, you got to consider your state of life. 01:19:21.152 --> 01:19:31.970 Like you can worry and fret about the church and the state of the world, all you want, but none of that's going to get you to heaven no, and the thing is it really is about attention. 01:19:32.512 --> 01:19:44.542 so do bible studies, do scripture, listen to podcasts like this or like like things that deepen your faith, listen to census, fidelium, homilies Always keep your like, if you know. 01:19:44.542 --> 01:20:01.020 If you're driving, obviously you can't be reading scripture, but you could be praying your rosary or listening to a good homily, like these are the things that actually will keep your your focus on God, and the more you keep your focus on god, you'll you'll notice the desire to sin and do things that you maybe you're caught in a bad habit. 01:20:01.020 --> 01:20:04.757 You'll you'll get out of that habit because your attention will be on god. 01:20:04.778 --> 01:20:20.880 it's really practicing the presence of god yeah like what we're talking about um, well, that and just the, the importance of community, whether it's I ideally it'd be in real life, right Like like this past weekend, we had a really really kind of cool experience. 01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:24.090 We went to our friend's house there about two hours away. 01:20:24.090 --> 01:20:45.192 We went to their house for for our friend's birthday, he's going to be our new daughter's godfather, but so they had some other Catholic friends over and we, they, they did the Angelus before we got there at 6 o'clock, but then we prayed Vespers together just as a group of friends. 01:20:45.192 --> 01:20:47.466 Basically that was just really cool. 01:20:47.466 --> 01:20:48.288 You know what I mean. 01:20:49.402 --> 01:20:50.204 Yeah, that is pretty cool. 01:20:50.204 --> 01:20:52.807 Even think about our little trip to Steubenville. 01:20:52.807 --> 01:20:59.307 We went for Adoration together, together, and we're planning this next one that we're going to try and do in Pennsylvania. 01:20:59.307 --> 01:21:02.505 We're going to have to maybe raise some money for Rob to catch a plane out here. 01:21:02.505 --> 01:21:06.304 Joe, please go back and listen to this one. 01:21:06.304 --> 01:21:07.027 You missed the big one. 01:21:07.027 --> 01:21:10.087 It's only part one of two. 01:21:10.087 --> 01:21:14.328 We did part one tonight and we're going to do part two next Tuesday. 01:21:15.181 --> 01:21:16.953 One other upcoming show that we're going to do part two um, next tuesday. 01:21:16.953 --> 01:21:21.666 Oh, one other upcoming show that we're we're in planning on is um, tan has a new book out. 01:21:21.666 --> 01:21:24.591 I forget the name of it, um, it might be. 01:21:24.591 --> 01:21:26.921 It is something to do with courtship. 01:21:26.921 --> 01:21:29.407 So, uh, they're sending us the books. 01:21:29.407 --> 01:21:32.862 We're gonna read through it and we're gonna have the author on. 01:21:32.862 --> 01:21:34.125 I forget who the author is. 01:21:34.125 --> 01:21:36.131 I should have looked this stuff up on, but we're going to have the author on. 01:21:36.131 --> 01:21:36.712 I forget who the author is. 01:21:36.712 --> 01:21:37.475 I should have looked this stuff up on. 01:21:37.475 --> 01:21:44.805 But we're going to have a show about courtship in the modern world, more or less about dating, although not actually, you know, not dating as we know it. 01:21:44.805 --> 01:21:54.831 So you know, it's stuff like that that we want to do shows on too, because we know how difficult that is for well for everyone. 01:21:54.871 --> 01:21:58.983 But you know, jeff, this means a lot to us. 01:21:58.983 --> 01:22:02.556 Man, like comments like this, like when you guys like you guys don't realize. 01:22:02.556 --> 01:22:06.572 Like those little comments like, oh, like like somebody sent us one the other day. 01:22:06.572 --> 01:22:09.381 It was like um, there are so many good shows out there. 01:22:09.381 --> 01:22:20.813 You know you have uh, uh off the menu and all this other stuff he goes, but there's no other channel that I listen to, where I feel like I'm just hanging with my buddies and yeah, that is like you can't. 01:22:20.813 --> 01:22:22.925 You don't know how

much that means to us. 01:22:22.925 --> 01:22:24.975 Like like me and rob will text each other. 01:22:24.975 --> 01:22:29.449 It's like dude, I can't believe people are like digging what we're doing, man, it's, it's, it's. 01:22:29.449 --> 01:22:35.587 It's very difficult to to be original in this climate and not do what everyone else is doing. 01:22:35.587 --> 01:22:40.045 Can we talk about? 01:22:40.064 --> 01:22:40.327 Animal Fight. 01:22:40.327 --> 01:22:42.530 Can we talk about the Amish version of Michael Vick here? 01:22:42.530 --> 01:22:43.279 What are we talking about? 01:22:43.462 --> 01:22:49.047 You can talk about the bear attacking the children when Elijah, when they call Elijah bald. 01:22:51.118 --> 01:22:53.608 The kids call Elijah bald and he sticks a bear on them. 01:22:53.608 --> 01:22:59.467 So Lou says we're fun and informative. 01:22:59.467 --> 01:22:59.881 Yeah, guys. 01:22:59.881 --> 01:23:02.226 So please like, subscribe, check out our locals. 01:23:02.226 --> 01:23:05.547 Please leave comments after the video because it does help the algorithm. 01:23:05.547 --> 01:23:07.860 I think we're going to wrap this one up. 01:23:07.860 --> 01:23:09.387 I had a really good time tonight. 01:23:09.387 --> 01:23:12.082 I hope we did a good job setting the stage for part two. 01:23:12.082 --> 01:23:17.739 Thursday night we'll do Off the Rails, and next Tuesday we'll do part two, and Saturday we'll do Off the Rails and next Tuesday we'll do part two and Saturday Father. 01:23:17.739 --> 01:23:20.947 Maudsley Saturday, Father Maudsley, which I am so excited about. 01:23:20.947 --> 01:23:22.525 I cannot wait for that one. 01:23:22.525 --> 01:23:25.386 Thank you guys for checking us out man. 01:23:25.386 --> 01:23:27.046 Thank you guys so much for giving us the time. 01:23:27.046 --> 01:23:43.925 Thank you guys so much for coming on this trip and hanging in there, sticking through with us trying to figure out who we are in this world like, in this, in this you know realm, like this has been a very interesting journey for us and we're having a good time doing it can you? 01:23:43.965 --> 01:23:47.301 can you believe how much more professional we are now compared to a year ago? 01:23:47.301 --> 01:23:54.493 Oh my gosh man, we're still terrible we are, but it's kind of purposefully so at this point. 01:23:54.493 --> 01:23:56.791 All right, there goes that oh, hold on, we got one more comment here about the pop-up we are, but it's kind of purposefully so at this point. 01:23:56.791 --> 01:23:57.171 All right, take a look at that. 01:23:57.171 --> 01:24:02.511 Hold on, we got one more comment here about the pop-up from Chris Lewis over at Baratous. 01:24:04.041 --> 01:24:05.207 How did you guys get connected? 01:24:05.207 --> 01:24:06.448 Did you know each other in real life? 01:24:06.448 --> 01:24:08.204 No, rob oh man Rob was. 01:24:09.001 --> 01:24:21.404 So we had talked on Twitter some and I mostly just knew him as a loudmouth fake misogynist New Yorker him as a loud mouth fake misogynist, uh, new yorker, um. 01:24:21.404 --> 01:24:23.069 But I'd watched a few of his because I knew him from twitter. 01:24:23.069 --> 01:24:39.685 I watched a few of his first shows on youtube when it was literally me, my wife, uh, mrs casey and like maybe one other person in the chat, yeah, and then he said something about starting a trivia show and my wife, um, volunteered me and that's how it all began rob came on that first episode. 01:24:39.704 --> 01:24:44.253 I I just liked him so much that it was on a friday night. 01:24:44.253 --> 01:24:45.703 The next morning was saturday. 01:24:45.703 --> 01:24:50.603 I was at work and I called him at like 7 am it of course chris pops into one night. 01:24:50.622 --> 01:24:51.787 I'm not wearing one of his shirts. 01:24:51.787 --> 01:24:55.748 I'm always wearing a bear, just shirt literally always oh yeah. 01:24:55.788 --> 01:24:58.524 So I called him that next day and he was thinking about starting his own channel. 01:24:58.524 --> 01:25:00.390 I said don't start your own channel, just come on with me. 01:25:00.390 --> 01:25:02.631 I only had like 240 subscribers at the time. 01:25:02.631 --> 01:25:05.119 I said just come on with me, we'll figure this thing out together. 01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:09.086 And we just slowly built the thing up and we're getting there now. 01:25:09.086 --> 01:25:10.400 Man, keep it up. 01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:12.023 I've been enjoying your show lately as I write. 01:25:12.023 --> 01:25:13.024 Thank you so much, chris. 01:25:13.024 --> 01:25:13.985 It means a lot to us. 01:25:13.985 --> 01:25:16.210 Thank you, man, all right. 01:25:16.951 --> 01:25:17.372 Let's do it. 01:25:17.372 --> 01:25:19.073 Okay, let's do this. 01:25:19.073 --> 01:25:46.253 You got to find the right, thank you. 01:25:54.680 --> 01:26:15.490 What's up? 01:26:15.490 --> 01:26:18.453 Brawls and girls, everybody Welcome back. 01:26:18.453 --> 01:26:19.353 We're doing part two tonight. 01:26:19.353 --> 01:26:21.582 We had a little scare yesterday, huh. 01:26:23.837 --> 01:26:25.542 I mean, I wish it wasn't scary. 01:26:25.542 --> 01:26:27.362 It would have been nice if it had been over with. 01:26:27.362 --> 01:26:34.640 But yeah, we thought Hope was in labor for a second time so yeah, I'm just gonna say so, this is the second time. 01:26:34.739 --> 01:26:35.161 Hope so. 01:26:35.161 --> 01:26:41.503 Rob lives two hours from the hospital where hope's delivering so when hope has a goes into false labor. 01:26:41.543 --> 01:26:52.145 Rob has a four-hour round trip car right to take now, to be fair, each time we have we've called the labor and delivery unit, gotten their you know their medical opinion. 01:26:52.145 --> 01:26:55.524 Of course, they don't want to be liable for anything, right? 01:26:55.524 --> 01:26:58.224 So their default is you should probably come in. 01:26:58.224 --> 01:27:00.764 And it's like we live two hours away, are you sure?

01:27:00.764 --> 01:27:03.965 And they're like that's why you should probably come in, in case it's the real thing. 01:27:05.355 --> 01:27:07.182 Yeah, like what else are they going to say? 01:27:07.182 --> 01:27:12.284 Because if she does go into labor, I mean it could be a fast labor. 01:27:13.768 --> 01:27:14.328 It could be so. 01:27:14.328 --> 01:27:17.680 So this is our third, but it is. 01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:20.283 It will be the first time she will actually be laboring. 01:27:22.059 --> 01:27:26.465 So, yeah, Maddie was an emergency C-section. 01:27:26.465 --> 01:27:36.280 We had to induce him at three weeks early because he had a couple medical issues that they did not want to let wait right. 01:27:36.280 --> 01:27:39.528 So they were, they induced and her water broke. 01:27:39.528 --> 01:28:00.648 And then she well, she labored for 12 hours, her water broke, she labored for another 24 and it didn't progress any further and at that point they decided to do an emergency C-section and then they declared that she wasn't eligible for natural birth any longer. 01:28:00.648 --> 01:28:10.860 So with Iggy we were planning for a C-section, had it all scheduled, but then her water broke four weeks early and we drove to the hospital. 01:28:10.860 --> 01:28:15.246 She had about an hour, an hour and a half of labor before they did that C-section. 01:28:15.246 --> 01:28:17.783 But now we're trying to go to the natural. 01:28:17.783 --> 01:28:23.599 You know the natural birth route, not fully natural like at home, but you know no, no, C-section. 01:28:23.599 --> 01:28:24.081 Basically. 01:28:24.675 --> 01:28:25.920 So why are you trying for that? 01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:36.876 You just the more C-sections you have the more dangerous. 01:28:36.895 --> 01:28:40.060 It gets right Eventually we would be limited on number of children based on the C-section scar tissue and things like that. 01:28:40.060 --> 01:28:43.125 Yeah, I told a story with my cousin where his wife, she, had her third C-section. 01:28:43.125 --> 01:28:53.140 The doctors told her she could never have another pregnancy because they saw a window and a window is when the scar tissue stretches so far you can actually see inside of her. 01:28:53.140 --> 01:29:05.286 And they went to uh, a reliquary where they were showing relics of you know all different saints, but there was one of uh and they were naming the baby colby. 01:29:05.286 --> 01:29:10.217 So when she went and she touched it she felt a burning sensation in her stomach. 01:29:10.217 --> 01:29:15.324 She went back to the doctor and the doctor was like no, everything's fine, you're good. 01:29:15.324 --> 01:29:18.248 Like the window was gone, everything was healed, like a total healing. 01:29:18.248 --> 01:29:20.030 It was like unbelievable miracle. 01:29:20.030 --> 01:29:22.061 So, um, all right. 01:29:22.175 --> 01:29:28.720 So now we're going to get into part two of of uh, the Danielic mystery tonight. 01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:34.779 Uh, of the Danielic Mystery tonight, while Rob's out, because Hope is eventually going to go into labor and Rob's probably going to be out for an episode or two. 01:29:34.779 --> 01:29:41.921 One of the episodes I scheduled, I'm going to have Jason on and another one I'm going to have Nick Cavazos on. 01:29:42.774 --> 01:29:43.881 Oh, okay, nice. 01:29:45.095 --> 01:29:50.280 And if it's after the 15th, enoch will be home from vacation. 01:29:50.280 --> 01:29:53.484 Enoch's away on vacation, so Enoch might come on for one of them. 01:29:53.484 --> 01:29:56.720 It depends how long you're out, for I don't know if you're going to be out for two episodes, three episodes, we'll see. 01:29:56.720 --> 01:30:00.167 Hope needs you, hope needs you, right, we'll see how it goes. 01:30:00.534 --> 01:30:03.838 You should try to get Cavazos to play his banjo on air. 01:30:04.460 --> 01:30:05.862 That would be funny yeah. 01:30:06.844 --> 01:30:07.925 I just want to get him on air. 01:30:08.305 --> 01:30:11.088 I've only hung out with him on air with four other people. 01:30:11.088 --> 01:30:12.331 I've never just hung with Nick. 01:30:12.331 --> 01:30:18.969 So it'll be exciting to just hang with Nick for a night. 01:30:18.969 --> 01:30:20.012 And Jason same thing. 01:30:20.012 --> 01:30:23.377 It's always been me, you and Jason, or me, you, mark and Jason, or me, mark and Jason. 01:30:23.396 --> 01:30:30.608 I've never hung with just Jason and I'm looking forward to this Just because we're all afraid it's just going to turn into an hour-long yelling match where you're saying the exact same thing. 01:30:31.309 --> 01:30:32.270 Over each other. 01:30:36.820 --> 01:30:38.690 Like arguing the same point over each other. 01:30:42.166 --> 01:30:42.909 Donna has a good point here. 01:30:42.909 --> 01:30:46.516 When it comes up, you should schedule Mike Lewis when Rob is out. 01:30:46.516 --> 01:30:48.177 I have an idea for Mike Lewis. 01:30:48.177 --> 01:30:59.606 I want to get Mike Lewis on and compare the ideal Mike Lewis papacy compared to the ideal Anthony papacy, like I want to see how far off him and I are in what we think a good pope is. 01:31:00.528 --> 01:31:05.631 Well, we both know the first thing you're going to do You're going to get the tiara back and put that thing on. 01:31:05.631 --> 01:31:10.568 You're going to slip the red shoes on. 01:31:10.568 --> 01:31:14.760 I mean, you're an Italian. 01:31:15.301 --> 01:31:15.381 It. 01:31:15.381 --> 01:31:17.627 It's natural you just want to get as much gold and shiny stuff on as possible. 01:31:17.627 --> 01:31:18.310 It's like I want. 01:31:18.310 --> 01:31:18.871 I honestly like my. 01:31:18.871 --> 01:31:25.784 The thing I hate the most about post council is that we don't do those pomp and circumstance. 01:31:26.806 --> 01:31:33.408 You know, like I, like we we no longer glorify god through the senses the, the kingdom, like that. 01:31:33.427 --> 01:31:36.224 The whole idea of that is you're

showing the kingdom on earth. 01:31:36.224 --> 01:31:38.511 It's like even these, even like. 01:31:38.511 --> 01:31:48.654 I really think like the reason so much of the demonic is coming back up is because we don't do processions anymore where we're burning incense in the street, warding off these spirits we don't have. 01:31:48.753 --> 01:31:54.260 You know, we don't even ring bells anymore like, yeah, people don't realize those bells are blessed. 01:31:54.260 --> 01:31:56.466 They have a special blessing, like they're. 01:31:56.466 --> 01:32:05.319 They're supposed to literally like sanctify the air and the area around um you used to hear the angelus bells every day. 01:32:06.582 --> 01:32:11.722 if you're in a catholic country, you would hear the angelus bells, get reminded every day to pray the angelus at 12 o'clock. 01:32:11.722 --> 01:32:17.363 It's like I mean, you still hear it occasionally, Like if you're in certain areas you might hear it, but it's not very often. 01:32:18.957 --> 01:32:21.063 Where do you think the Muslim call to prayer came from? 01:32:21.704 --> 01:32:22.247 You know what I mean. 01:32:23.618 --> 01:32:29.208 It came from Catholics praying the canonical hours and doing the Angelus and things like that. 01:32:30.917 --> 01:32:33.064 It's a smart thing to do it. 01:32:33.064 --> 01:32:36.826 It you should be reminding your culture to call to prayer and things like that. 01:32:36.826 --> 01:32:38.520 It keeps your culture Catholic. 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:40.164 You know it's like um. 01:32:40.164 --> 01:32:47.143 So, in, in preparation for this, um, I, I, I went back and I read the book of Kings again. 01:32:47.143 --> 01:32:49.079 First, I read judges, judges. 01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:53.337 I picked it up from samson, because who were we just talking to about samson? 01:32:53.417 --> 01:32:57.747 oh, father, maudsley father maud was talking to father maudsley about samson. 01:32:57.747 --> 01:33:00.585 So I'm like I have to go back and reread the story of samson. 01:33:00.585 --> 01:33:06.824 So I read, I read judges from samson, which is is pretty later on, it's like judges 10 or something like that. 01:33:06.824 --> 01:33:19.694 Yeah, and it's like you really do need to know the story in the old testament and there's a great uh youtube channel called uh the bible project that does summaries of these stories. 01:33:19.694 --> 01:33:22.382 So each book they give you like an eight or nine minute summary. 01:33:23.646 --> 01:33:28.619 Uh, yeah margo, it's like bowling I'm better after one or two, don't? 01:33:28.619 --> 01:33:31.265 That was a joke. 01:33:31.265 --> 01:33:32.327 That was a bad joke. 01:33:32.466 --> 01:33:39.484 I did not say that wow I'm so sorry, is that illegal can't have two and drive. 01:33:39.484 --> 01:33:41.386 You can have one and drive um. 01:33:41.386 --> 01:33:44.319 So the uh, yeah, it's called the bible project. 01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:51.119 So if you're not like big on because the old testament's hard man, like you go through it and it's like some of the names you're just like what? 01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:56.828 Like it's a rubber bell and the names are just like so absurd. 01:33:56.828 --> 01:33:57.529 It's really hard. 01:33:57.529 --> 01:33:59.301 That's my biggest problem with dostoevsky. 01:33:59.301 --> 01:34:05.501 I have a hard time reading dostoevsky because it's peter and fjodor and so when I read, I took russian. 01:34:05.541 --> 01:34:07.505 So that's like normal to me. 01:34:07.886 --> 01:34:16.465 Well, I changed the names of dostoevsky I, I changed peter to peter, I changed fjodor to fred, like just so that it's easier for me to remember so, so. 01:34:16.926 --> 01:34:20.298 So what do you call uh robo on them, ray, or? 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:21.039 well. 01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:23.385 So yeah, I did. 01:34:23.385 --> 01:34:27.497 It's ray and jay, and I call ray and jay ray and jay. 01:34:27.497 --> 01:34:29.720 I got Ray and Jack. 01:34:30.221 --> 01:34:38.018 I'm kidding, I was literally just going to make that joke, but it's a dead series, so what happens is all right. 01:34:38.018 --> 01:34:43.085 So in Judges, the Judges are a strange time because the Israelites are. 01:34:43.085 --> 01:34:45.609 They're a mess of a people. 01:34:46.310 --> 01:34:49.264 Yeah, they're a nation but they're a nation. 01:34:49.956 --> 01:34:54.506 But they're so mixed up with the Gentiles that they keep picking up these awful habits. 01:34:54.506 --> 01:34:57.644 So God will send Rack, shack and Penny. 01:34:57.644 --> 01:35:01.185 God will send in judges to call the nation back. 01:35:01.185 --> 01:35:05.782 But he doesn't pick these great judges, even Samson no they're awful. 01:35:06.863 --> 01:35:09.509 They're awful, they're all terrible, they're awful. 01:35:09.569 --> 01:35:12.055 It's so crazy, these judges. 01:35:12.055 --> 01:35:19.220 They come in and they do something amazing with god's power, and then they fall apart, and israel is just going through this roller coaster ride through judges. 01:35:19.220 --> 01:35:28.162 Um, so then you get king david, but you really get king saul, then david, then solomon. 01:35:28.203 --> 01:35:38.920 Right, and that that you really should go and do the Bible project and listen to the summary of the book of Kings, because it gives you like an eight or nine minute summary from Kings one and then the same thing for Kings two. 01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:46.279 So after Saul, after Saul, david comes, then after David, solomon comes, solomon builds the temple. 01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:57.157 Solomon's son, reh aboam, comes in after him and he punishes the israelites like he doubles the taxes on them. 01:35:57.157 --> 01:35:57.997 He's just awful. 01:35:57.997 --> 01:36:05.315 And he winds up looking like uh a um, a gentile king by the end of his reign. 01:36:05.315 --> 01:36:07.259 It's like they're a mess. 01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:14.810 And now, when you say the Israelites, you specifically

mean the ten tribes of Israel, as opposed to the Israel and Judah. 01:36:15.435 --> 01:36:20.983 So, okay, so all Jews are Israelites, not all Israelites are Jews, right? 01:36:20.983 --> 01:36:24.100 So after the ten tribes? 01:36:24.100 --> 01:36:30.054 So Rehoboam makes such a mess of things that the ten tribes revolt yes, the ten northern tribes. 01:36:30.054 --> 01:36:33.640 They end up becoming Samaria and then getting mixed in with the Gentiles. 01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:41.862 They're still Israelites, but the southern tribe is Judah, and that's where we get the word Jew from right. 01:36:41.862 --> 01:36:46.563 So all Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews. 01:36:46.563 --> 01:36:48.341 It's a very strange thing. 01:36:49.082 --> 01:36:55.921 So when Paul is talking in Romans especially in 9, 10, and 11, he's talking about my fellow Israelites, but he doesn't say that always. 01:36:55.921 --> 01:36:57.682 A lot of times he's talking about just the Jews. 01:36:57.682 --> 01:37:03.347 So he distinguishes between the lost tribes and the actual Southern tribe. 01:37:03.347 --> 01:37:22.280 It's a tricky thing that if you don't know that, you get lost in it in it, and so the, the, the israelites get scattered, they become samaria, they end up in the gent, you know, scattered amongst the gentiles, and the southern tribe has the temple still, but they have fallen into idol worship as well. 01:37:22.280 --> 01:37:36.954 So god allows, uh, babylon to come in, sack the temple and and kidnaps all the jews they do they. 01:37:36.975 --> 01:37:41.163 They do that to israel, the kingdom of israel, first, and then I forget how many years later they do it to the kingdom of judah, correct? 01:37:41.985 --> 01:37:42.065 yeah. 01:37:42.065 --> 01:37:50.305 So now they, they actually take all, the, all the jews and and keep them in captivity in Babylon. 01:37:50.305 --> 01:38:08.077 Now, babylon we talked about it last episode they're this tyrannical empire and they're forcing Jews and Gentiles into this empire and they're forcing the Jews to actually worship idols and and and, uh, what would you call that? 01:38:08.077 --> 01:38:19.064 Uh, uh, like, when you bring a, uh, a you know uh, immigrants in and you want them to like assimilate, right? 01:38:19.064 --> 01:38:24.537 So I'm sorry, guys, so they, they want the jews to assimilate with babylonian culture. 01:38:24.537 --> 01:38:29.819 Daniel and his four friends are direct descendants of david and they won't do it. 01:38:29.819 --> 01:38:31.809 They won't eat the foods that are uh, sacrificed and they won't do it. 01:38:31.809 --> 01:38:33.756 They won't eat the foods that are sacrificed to idols. 01:38:33.756 --> 01:38:35.542 They won't worship any of the idols or anything. 01:38:35.542 --> 01:38:38.497 So where we're going to pick up in this story is in Daniel 2. 01:38:38.497 --> 01:38:45.655 And in Daniel 2, I want to just give you guys the summary before we get into Ephesians. 01:38:45.735 --> 01:38:53.810 So in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar, nebuchadnezzar had dreams and his spirit was troubled and his sleep left him. 01:38:53.810 --> 01:39:00.488 Then the king commanded that the magicians, the enchanters, the sorcerers and the Chaldeans be summoned to tell the king his dreams. 01:39:00.488 --> 01:39:02.738 So they came in and stood before the king. 01:39:02.738 --> 01:39:06.162 And the king said to them I had a dream and my spirit is troubled to know the dream. 01:39:06.162 --> 01:39:08.886 Then the Chaldeans said to the king King live forever. 01:39:08.886 --> 01:39:12.270 Tell your servants the dream and we will show the interpretation. 01:39:12.270 --> 01:39:22.145 The king answered the Chaldeans the word from me is sure If you do not make known to me the dream and its interpretation, you shall be torn limb from limb and your houses shall be laid in ruins. 01:39:22.145 --> 01:39:27.743 But if you show me the dream and its interpretation, you shall receive from me gifts and rewards and great honor. 01:39:27.743 --> 01:39:30.484 Therefore, show me the dream and its interpretation. 01:39:30.484 --> 01:39:36.965 They answered a second time let the king tell his servants the dream and we will show the interpretation. 01:39:36.965 --> 01:39:48.903 The king answered I know with certainty that you are trying to gain time because you see that the word from me is sure that if you do not make the dream known to me, there is but one sentence for you you have agreed to speak lying and corrupt words before me till the times change. 01:39:48.903 --> 01:39:53.149 Therefore, tell me the dream and I shall know that you can show me its interpretation. 01:39:53.168 --> 01:40:01.823 The Chaldeans answered the king there is not a man on earth who can meet the king's demand, for no great and powerful king has asked such a thing of any magician or enchanter or Chaldean. 01:40:01.823 --> 01:40:11.380 The thing that the king asks is difficult and none can show it to the king, except the gods whose dwelling is not with flesh. 01:40:11.380 --> 01:40:16.899 Because of this the king was angry and furious and commanded that all the wise men of babylon be destroyed. 01:40:16.899 --> 01:40:22.158 So the decree went forth that the wise men were to be slain and they sought daniel and his companions to slay them. 01:40:22.158 --> 01:40:30.042 Then daniel replied with prudence and discretion to ariok, the captain of the king's guard, who had gone out to slay the wise men of Babylon. 01:40:30.042 --> 01:40:33.969 He said to Ariok, the king's captain, why is the decree of the king so severe? 01:40:34.494 --> 01:40:40.889 Ariok made the matter known to Daniel and Daniel went in and besought the king to appoint him a time that he might show the king the interpretation. 01:40:40.889 --> 01:40:58.043 Daniel went to his house and made the matter known to Hananiah I'm not going to get these names right, guys His three friends, let's go with

that Seek mercy of God of heaven concerning the mystery so that Daniel and his companions might not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. 01:40:58.043 --> 01:41:00.905 And the mystery revealed to Daniel in a vision of the night. 01:41:00.905 --> 01:41:08.532 So the vision was revealed to Daniel in a vision of the night, and Daniel blessed the God of heaven and said blessed be the name of God forever and ever. 01:41:08.532 --> 01:41:13.661 And he sings this whole canticle, blessing God. 01:41:13.661 --> 01:41:14.221 Um. 01:41:14.301 --> 01:41:19.275 So therefore, daniel went, went into Ariok, whom the king had appointed to destroy the wise men of Babylon. 01:41:19.275 --> 01:41:25.078 He went and said thus to him do not destroy the wise men, bring me in before the king and I will show the king the interpretation. 01:41:25.078 --> 01:41:37.479 Then Ariok brought in Daniel before the king in haste and said to him thus I have found among the exiles from Judah so that's the southern kingdom A man, the exiles from Judah, a man who can make known the king's interpretation. 01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:44.722 The king said to Daniel, whose name was Balthazar Are you able to make known to me the dream I have seen and its interpretation? 01:41:44.722 --> 01:41:45.703 Daniel answered the king. 01:41:45.703 --> 01:41:46.523 No wise men. 01:41:46.523 --> 01:41:50.784 No wise men, enchanters, magic or astrologers can show the king the mystery. 01:41:51.305 --> 01:41:54.627 So this is where this book says mystery over and over. 01:41:54.627 --> 01:42:00.670 So no wise men, enchanters or magicians or astrologers can show the king the mystery which the king has asked. 01:42:00.670 --> 01:42:13.280 But there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries and he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what will be, in the latter days, your dream and the visions of your head as you lay in your bed are these. 01:42:13.280 --> 01:42:19.881 To you, o king, as you lay in bed, came thoughts of what would be hereafter, and he who reveals mysteries made known to you what it would be. 01:42:19.881 --> 01:42:30.622 But as for me, not because of any wisdom that I have more than all the living has this mystery been revealed to me, but in order that the interpretation may be made known to the king and that you may know the thoughts of your mind. 01:42:31.002 --> 01:42:33.328 You saw, o king, and behold a great image. 01:42:33.328 --> 01:42:40.168 This image was mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you and, in its appearance, frightening. 01:42:40.168 --> 01:42:49.985 The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast an armor of silver, its belly and thigh of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay. 01:42:49.985 --> 01:42:57.747 As you look, the stone was cut out by no human hand and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay and broke them in pieces. 01:42:57.747 --> 01:43:14.128 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold all together were broken in pieces and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors, and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them could be found, but the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled all the earth. 01:43:14.128 --> 01:43:19.447 This image that Nebuchadnezzar sees is a prophecy. 01:43:19.447 --> 01:43:23.765 The head of gold is Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon. 01:43:23.765 --> 01:43:26.954 After him will come the chest of silver. 01:43:26.954 --> 01:43:33.742 This is the Persian Empire, the stomach of bronze and the thighs of bronze are the Greek Empire. 01:43:34.917 --> 01:43:39.485 Then the legs of iron and the feet of mixed iron and clay, is the Roman Empire. 01:43:39.485 --> 01:43:54.146 So when Jesus comes into the world, all of Jerusalem is awaiting the cornerstone that's going to break this image and they're awaiting this Messiah. 01:43:54.146 --> 01:44:06.347 It's like there's so much that goes into why, when John the Baptist goes and starts baptizing and preaching, that all of Judea goes out to get baptized because they're all like, okay, this fourth kingdom is here. 01:44:06.347 --> 01:44:14.310 And not only that in Daniel 7, daniel actually goes and finds out the exact year that this will happen. 01:44:14.310 --> 01:44:24.689 So it's supposed to be the 70-year exile, and it turns out because Israel was so disobedient that it got prolonged an additional 7 times, 70, which is 490 years. 01:44:25.154 --> 01:44:30.807 So 490 years after Daniel they have the year that they're waiting for the Messiah to come. 01:44:30.807 --> 01:44:34.621 Years after daniel, they have the year that they're waiting for the messiah to come. 01:44:34.621 --> 01:44:38.408 It's like everything aligns perfectly for christ to come. 01:44:38.408 --> 01:44:39.110 When he came. 01:44:39.532 --> 01:44:45.042 This prophecy gets fulfilled perfectly like a lot of rabbinic judaism. 01:44:45.042 --> 01:45:03.644 Judaism today is them figuring out different ways as to as to how that number could be wrong or or how, you know, we could still be within that period, and everything like that, when a plain reading of it just it's the year christ was born 490 years after daniel. 01:45:03.684 --> 01:45:12.168 So when christ comes and john the baptist starts baptizing, all of judea is waiting because they know this is the year of Jubilee, like this is the year of mercy. 01:45:12.168 --> 01:45:14.680 We're going to get our Messiah and they're waiting. 01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:16.907 And he comes now. 01:45:16.907 --> 01:45:29.547 Daniel seven goes down a similar path, where Daniel starts having these, uh, his own dreams and he starts seeing these beasts, and beasts with crowns of thorn uh, you know. 01:45:29.547 --> 01:45:33.121 Uh, a crown of thorns, or lion know a crown of thorns Lion with eagle's wings. 01:45:33.140 --> 01:45:37.029 Yeah, it's like all these imagery that you see in the book of the apocalypse. 01:45:37.029 -->

01:45:40.697 Now it also gets into the Son of man. 01:45:40.697 --> 01:45:45.608 So Jesus refers to himself as the Son of man strictly because of the book of Daniel. 01:45:45.608 --> 01:45:49.405 Where else it's said is in Enoch, which is strange. 01:45:49.405 --> 01:45:52.021 The book of Enoch says a lot about the Son of man. 01:45:52.021 --> 01:45:54.881 Now, I've never read Enoch, I've just heard commentaries on it. 01:45:55.194 --> 01:45:59.926 And the Son of man is in Enoch about the coming Messiah, and they always refer to him as the Son of man. 01:45:59.926 --> 01:46:14.439 So the reason Jesus gets crucified is because in the trial he says you will see the Son of man coming in the clouds and seated at the right hand of the father. 01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:24.226 That is him saying like because Daniel in Daniel's chapter seven, there's these prophecies saying that he will have dominion over all the earth. 01:46:24.226 --> 01:46:29.347 All of these things just come together so perfectly for this prophecy to be fulfilled. 01:46:29.347 --> 01:46:36.585 Because when Christ is lifted up, the cross is in the clouds of heaven, like they're seeing him on the clouds of heaven while he's up on the cross. 01:46:36.585 --> 01:46:39.463 And while he's on the cross he's repeating the Psalms. 01:46:39.463 --> 01:46:41.944 When he says my God, my God, why is thou forsaking me? 01:46:41.944 --> 01:46:43.742 He's actually repeating Psalms. 01:46:44.795 --> 01:46:48.323 And he's doing it on Golgotha, which I mean. 01:46:48.323 --> 01:46:57.604 That area is where creation happened, it's where the Garden of Eden was, it's where Adam was buried, it's where Abraham sacrificed Isaac. 01:46:57.604 --> 01:47:04.228 It's all these typological things being fulfilled in that one single moment. 01:47:06.456 --> 01:47:10.226 So now, Paul, we're going to shoot over to Ephesians now. 01:47:10.226 --> 01:47:12.975 So let me just make sure I got that. 01:47:13.216 --> 01:47:14.710 Joseph has a question real quick. 01:47:14.710 --> 01:47:20.927 Yeah, sure, joseph says we're told that dream reading and the like is forbidden because it's opening us to the demonic. 01:47:20.927 --> 01:47:22.381 Why is it different here in Daniel? 01:47:22.381 --> 01:47:26.085 I would assume it's because Daniel is a prophet of God. 01:47:26.085 --> 01:47:32.444 It's not him himself interpreting the dream, it's the Holy Ghost interpreting it through him. 01:47:33.015 --> 01:47:35.583 Daniel specifically says I myself have no power. 01:47:35.583 --> 01:47:42.605 It can only be revealed to you if God has mercy, and God has mercy on Daniel and reveals the whole thing to him. 01:47:42.605 --> 01:47:58.335 So I think, like in current times, like dream, like trying to understand, like I do still think that some I mean we do have mystics that had dreams, right, and they were considered prophecies. 01:47:58.335 --> 01:48:03.404 So I I just think it's a, it's a warning the church gives because they don't want you going to mediums and things like that. 01:48:03.744 --> 01:48:10.148 We, we know, we know that God, through his angels, communicated with St Joseph in dreams. 01:48:10.148 --> 01:48:25.868 Um, but I think you're right, I think so much current dream reading is either A through mediums, which of course is the occult, or it's B through, like pop psychology, which is kind of occult too, in a sense. 01:48:29.456 --> 01:48:31.658 Yeah, it's all dangerous stuff so now. 01:48:31.658 --> 01:48:40.690 So when you get into Paul's epistle in the original Greek that Paul wrote this in, it's the longest sentence in all of Scripture. 01:48:41.355 --> 01:48:42.902 Are we starting with the beginning of Ephesians? 01:48:43.494 --> 01:48:51.547 Ephesians 1, verse 3, I'm going to start with, so this is one long prayer and it's the longest sentence, I think, in the English language. 01:48:51.547 --> 01:49:04.435 Like I don't think there's a longer sentence, yeah, let me show it here it is yeah, that's a long one, that's yeah, so there's one period in the English that isn't there in the original. 01:49:04.614 --> 01:49:08.246 It goes all the way to verse 14. 01:49:08.246 --> 01:49:10.841 So it goes from verse 3 to 14. 01:49:10.841 --> 01:49:18.423 There's a period in the English language but it's not in the original, and I got that from the Scott Hahn talk. 01:49:18.423 --> 01:49:20.202 So if that's wrong, yell at him. 01:49:20.202 --> 01:49:21.658 That's the other thing. 01:49:21.658 --> 01:49:31.086 Guys, I have to like make sure Like none of this is my own, like I have to give Dr Hahn all of the credit on this. 01:49:31.086 --> 01:49:37.087 I would imagine that he would be happy that this is getting out Like he's not. 01:49:37.876 --> 01:49:40.403 Unless Anthony butchers it, and then he's going to be upset. 01:49:40.844 --> 01:49:43.421 Unless I butcher it, unless I don't give him credit for it. 01:49:43.502 --> 01:49:46.457 Right, like I'm not plagiarizing anything, I'm giving full credit to him. 01:49:46.777 --> 01:50:02.743 There's even going to be some phrases that I say that really struck my heart, that he said that I'm going to probably use those because they were really powerful when I heard them, that it's just just go along with this because it really is phenomenal, but it's blessed. 01:50:02.762 --> 01:50:05.935 Be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places. 01:50:05.935 --> 01:50:21.667 Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him, he destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace which he freely bestowed on us, the beloved. 01:50:21.667 --> 01:50:42.130 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace which he lavished upon us, for he has made

known to us, in all wisdom and insight, the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in christ as a plan for the fullness of time to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. 01:50:42.130 --> 01:50:49.481 Now, that's like what paul is going to be talking about through this entire uniting of all things in christ. 01:50:50.243 --> 01:50:55.088 So you have this and we see mystery again as well. 01:50:56.091 --> 01:50:59.466 Yeah, and the mystery of his will. 01:50:59.466 --> 01:51:23.671 So this is what paul is really trying to get across to everybody that the mystery paul sees is this image that nebuchadnezzar sees in his dream is a photographic negative of the body of Christ, that no longer are we united through tyranny and force, being forced to worship idols, but we are united in Christ to worship the God of Abraham, isaac and Jacob. 01:51:23.671 --> 01:51:26.197 And it's going to get profound as we go along. 01:51:26.197 --> 01:51:30.786 Let's see. 01:51:30.786 --> 01:51:35.099 I want to go to all right, so we're going to go to chapter two. 01:51:35.099 --> 01:51:43.869 Let's see. 01:51:45.030 --> 01:51:45.331 Okay. 01:51:50.916 --> 01:51:51.618 All right, wait a minute. 01:51:51.618 --> 01:51:54.935 Oh no, it was chapter one that I wanted to keep reading. 01:51:54.935 --> 01:51:58.581 Okay, um. 01:51:59.403 --> 01:52:08.957 In him, according to the purpose of him, who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will, we who first hoped in christ have been destined and appointed to live in the praise of his glory. 01:52:08.957 --> 01:52:21.627 In him, you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and who believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it to the praise of his glory. 01:52:21.627 --> 01:52:41.337 For this reason, because I have heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love toward all the saints, I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers that the God of our Lord, Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation and knowledge of him, having the eyes of your hearts enlightened that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you. 01:52:41.337 --> 01:52:45.667 Like he is at this point, he wants your. 01:52:45.667 --> 01:52:47.936 He wants you to really hear what he's saying. 01:52:47.936 --> 01:52:48.358 He's like. 01:52:48.358 --> 01:52:50.180 Have the eyes of your hearts enlightened. 01:52:50.180 --> 01:52:51.323 Listen to what he's saying. 01:52:51.342 --> 01:52:51.622 He's like. 01:52:51.622 --> 01:52:52.564 Have the eyes of your hearts enlightened. 01:52:52.564 --> 01:52:53.006 Listen to what I'm. 01:52:53.025 --> 01:53:22.043 He's going to tell you, having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power and us who believe according to the working of his great might, which he accomplished in christ when he raised him from the dead and made him sit at the right hand in the heavenly places that's an allusion to Daniel again where the Son of man will sit at the right hand of the Father, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the age that is to come. 01:53:22.043 --> 01:53:32.109 And he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him, who fulfills all in all. 01:53:32.109 --> 01:53:50.862 And you have been made and you have made alive, and you and you he made alive when you were dead, through trespasses and sins in which he once walked, in which he once walked following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience Among these. 01:53:50.862 --> 01:53:59.819 We all once lived in the passions of our flesh, following the desires of the body and mind, and so we were, by nature, children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 01:54:01.904 --> 01:54:03.520 This is where Paul's getting by grace. 01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:04.262 You were saved. 01:54:04.262 --> 01:54:05.278 You did nothing. 01:54:05.278 --> 01:54:06.483 You were living in sin. 01:54:06.483 --> 01:54:08.381 You did nothing to earn this. 01:54:08.381 --> 01:54:12.663 It's like so, um, where did I leave off? 01:54:15.859 --> 01:54:25.614 god who is rich, and of three all right, so, yeah, so, but god, who is rich in mercy, out of the great love for which he loved us even when we were dead through our sin, made us alive together with christ. 01:54:25.614 --> 01:54:31.362 By grace, you have been saved and raised us up with him and made us sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus. 01:54:31.362 --> 01:54:39.976 So, like he's saying now, right, like he's not saying it's not a future tense, he's not saying that. 01:54:39.976 --> 01:54:43.636 He's saying, even when we were dead in our sin, made us alive together with Christ. 01:54:43.636 --> 01:54:49.257 By grace, you have been saved and raised us up with him and made us sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus. 01:54:49.257 --> 01:54:54.981 That in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace and kindness toward us in Christ. 01:54:54.981 --> 01:54:59.020 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing. 01:54:59.020 --> 01:55:08.965 It is the gift of God, not because of works, lest any man should boast, for we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. 01:55:08.965 --> 01:55:17.578 Okay, therefore, remember that at one time, you Gentiles in the flesh, called the

uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands. 01:55:17.578 --> 01:55:26.877 Remember that you were at one time separated from Christ, alienated from the Commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 01:55:26.957 --> 01:55:28.220 Okay, so what's he talking about here? 01:55:28.220 --> 01:55:33.488 Gentiles, like God, chose the Jews right. 01:55:33.488 --> 01:55:36.801 They have the covenants and all the promises from God. 01:55:36.801 --> 01:55:39.881 The Gentiles are far off from these promises. 01:55:39.881 --> 01:55:48.362 Like by grace, god has now chosen to bring the Gentiles into the covenant promises that were really for Israel. 01:55:48.362 --> 01:55:53.542 So for he is our peace. 01:55:53.542 --> 01:55:58.161 Who has both won, looking down the dividing wall of hostility. 01:55:58.161 --> 01:56:00.087 What is the dividing wall of hostility? 01:56:01.775 --> 01:56:05.350 It's the place in the temple where the Gentiles could not pass. 01:56:06.073 --> 01:56:10.703 Exactly so what Paul's talking about here, the dividing wall of hostility. 01:56:10.703 --> 01:56:12.467 The temple is made up in three parts. 01:56:12.467 --> 01:56:23.422 You have the outer court, where the Gentiles who throughout history were able to come and worship the God of Israel, so they were allowed in the outer court. 01:56:23.422 --> 01:56:27.762 So when Jesus comes and flips, the temple tables over the money. 01:56:27.783 --> 01:56:28.243 That's the outer court. 01:56:31.095 --> 01:56:40.882 Now this is supposed to be a place where the Gentiles can come and worship the God of Israel, and they've made it a marketplace, and this enrages Jesus, because it's not. 01:56:40.882 --> 01:56:49.430 They're supposed to be a shining example to the nations and instead of being a shining example, they're doing money exchanges. 01:56:49.430 --> 01:56:51.612 They're just treating it like a marketplace. 01:56:51.612 --> 01:56:54.279 So that's why Jesus flips the money tables over. 01:56:54.279 --> 01:56:56.364 Then you have the inner court. 01:56:56.364 --> 01:57:00.181 Now, between the outer court and inner court, this is called the dividing wall of hostility. 01:57:00.181 --> 01:57:04.600 There's a placard that actually said if any Gentile shall cross, he shall die. 01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:08.157 If you were a Gentile and you crossed that line, they would kill you immediately. 01:57:08.157 --> 01:57:12.262 Paul is talking about the dividing wall of hostility being taken down. 01:57:12.262 --> 01:57:16.470 You have to understand how important the temple was to ancient judaism. 01:57:16.470 --> 01:57:18.618 It is everything to them. 01:57:18.618 --> 01:57:23.386 It's their white house, their taj mahal is. 01:57:23.386 --> 01:57:27.377 It's their uh, you know, uh declaration of independence. 01:57:27.377 --> 01:57:29.301 Everything to them, it's the whole universe. 01:57:29.521 -->

01:57:32.448 It's where they believe the world was created. 01:57:32.448 --> 01:57:39.569 It's like the foundation stone of the temple is at the heart of the Garden of Eden. 01:57:40.595 --> 01:57:47.583 So when Jesus says, tear down this temple and in three days I'll rebuild it, this is the most shocking thing in the world. 01:57:48.234 --> 01:57:50.082 He's saying tear down this, destroy the world, basically. 01:57:50.082 --> 01:57:54.637 To tear down this, destroy the world, basically to them just destroy the universe. 01:57:54.658 --> 01:58:00.417 Yeah, it's like they just rebuilt this temple after seeing it torn down and they were brought into captivity. 01:58:00.417 --> 01:58:08.217 They're all thinking not only do we have our temple back, we're going to get our messiah, we're going to be able to start conquering the world, because they're waiting on this earthly messiah. 01:58:08.217 --> 01:58:11.666 And jesus says tear down this temple and in three days I'll rebuild it. 01:58:11.666 --> 01:58:12.608 They're like what? 01:58:12.608 --> 01:58:14.100 What are you talking about? 01:58:14.100 --> 01:58:18.682 Like he just doesn't fit their understanding of what this Messiah is going to be. 01:58:18.682 --> 01:58:22.385 And the apostles are probably sitting there like what are you doing? 01:58:22.385 --> 01:58:23.881 What are you talking about? 01:58:23.881 --> 01:58:24.923 Why are you saying this? 01:58:25.266 --> 01:58:27.921 They're probably so confused because that's early on in John's gospel. 01:58:27.921 --> 01:58:38.300 That's like chapter four or something, the turning of the money tables. 01:58:38.300 --> 01:58:41.391 And he came to preach peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near, for through him we both have access in one spirit to the father. 01:58:41.391 --> 01:58:58.635 So then, you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you who are fellow citizens, with the saints and members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, that cornerstone that shatters the image in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple of the Lord. 01:58:58.635 --> 01:59:00.019 I mean also potentially the foundation. 01:59:01.885 --> 01:59:02.046 Yeah. 01:59:03.417 --> 01:59:15.141 I think they're also saying Jesus is the foundation stone of the temple Of the temple itself, Yep, In whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 01:59:15.141 --> 01:59:22.757 Temples don't grow Right Bodies grow, temples are built, Temples don't grow. 01:59:22.757 --> 01:59:37.448 So Paul's like mixing his metaphors here it's a weird thing In whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you are also built into it for a dwelling place of God in the spirit. 01:59:37.448 --> 01:59:38.715 Like think about what he's saying there. 01:59:38.715 --> 01:59:45.469 He's

saying the temple is growing and you are being built for a dwelling place of God in the spirit. 01:59:45.469 --> 01:59:49.025 Like he's got his metaphors mixed but he's really trying to tell us something here. 01:59:49.025 --> 01:59:52.475 It's likeesus is the new temple. 01:59:53.077 --> 02:00:06.378 Like you have to really grasp what's going on here if you're a jew in the ancient world, the church is the new temple, with jesus as its foundation and cornerstone in each of us as part of the mystical body the temple. 02:00:06.779 --> 02:00:07.882 Right, so it's. 02:00:07.882 --> 02:00:16.323 It's look at it like this the jews in the ancient world have to go to jerusalem on passover to sacrifice the lamb or their firstborn son will die. 02:00:16.323 --> 02:00:22.823 I don't care where you are in the ancient world, you have to travel to jerusalem during passover. 02:00:22.823 --> 02:00:25.216 You can't leave that area of the world. 02:00:25.216 --> 02:00:30.364 You have to be in that area of the world in order to sacrifice the lamb so that your firstborn son doesn't die. 02:00:30.364 --> 02:00:35.221 What happens is when Jesus, the new temple, dies that temple. 02:00:35.403 --> 02:00:41.405 When Jesus in John's gospel says to the woman at the well, she says the Jews say we have to worship. 02:00:41.405 --> 02:00:46.069 You know, the Samaritans say we worship on this mountain, but the Jews say we have to worship in Jerusalem. 02:00:46.069 --> 02:00:53.849 He says there will come a day where you will worship neither in this place or that place, but you will worship in spirit and truth and you will hear the voice of the son of God. 02:00:53.849 --> 02:01:03.698 This is like preposterous to hear that Jesus now becomes the temple, that the kingdom now is wherever the king is. 02:01:03.698 --> 02:01:07.027 And this is a Eucharistic temple, like it's a Eucharistic kingdom. 02:01:07.027 --> 02:01:08.997 So wherever the king is, there is the kingdom. 02:01:08.997 --> 02:01:14.807 And now that the temple is no longer there, jesus is the temple Wherever Jesus goes and we celebrate the Eucharist. 02:01:14.807 --> 02:01:16.818 Now you have a temple wherever we go. 02:01:16.818 --> 02:01:20.796 So when you hear Protestants say things like God doesn't dwell in buildings, he doesn't. 02:01:20.796 --> 02:01:25.771 No, it is a spiritual kingdom, but it's a Eucharistic kingdom. 02:01:25.771 --> 02:01:30.543 It's the resurrected Jesus that makes us the temple of God. 02:01:30.765 --> 02:01:39.237 For the first time the other day, so we've been working on Matty and Iggy doing the sign of the cross as we pass a church right, a Catholic church. 02:01:39.237 --> 02:01:47.265 And you know, every time we tell them and for the first time the other day I asked Matty, as we passed the church and he did the sign of the cross, why he did it. 02:01:47.265 --> 02:01:57.846 And he made me so proud because he says we do it to show respect to jesus, who is in the church, in the tabernacle holy cow rob. 02:01:57.867 --> 02:02:02.081 That's really great that he knows that yeah it really is great that he knows that much. 02:02:02.081 --> 02:02:05.127 So joe's just saying anthony's on fire, right? 02:02:05.127 --> 02:02:12.407 Somebody left a comment the other day and they said that Anthony's enthusiasm is infectious. 02:02:12.407 --> 02:02:17.944 He's like a little kid who just discovered a magic trick, right. 02:02:17.944 --> 02:02:30.127 And it's like I pray that I always have this excitement when I'm talking about this stuff, because when you learn something new, it's the most exciting thing in the world to learn something new from scripture especially. 02:02:30.186 --> 02:02:37.681 It's like this is so intricate to why Protestants really don't understand what's going on here. 02:02:37.681 --> 02:02:40.123 It's like why are we the body of Christ? 02:02:40.123 --> 02:02:49.485 Why Protestants don't grasp that this whole idea of the body of Christ comes from this image in Daniel 2 from Nebuchadnezzar's dream. 02:02:49.485 --> 02:02:50.697 It's Paul. 02:02:50.697 --> 02:02:54.287 Like nobody calls the church the body of Christ except for Paul. 02:02:54.287 --> 02:02:58.703 It's not like Matthew does, john doesn't right. 02:02:58.703 --> 02:03:03.063 You don't hear it in any of the synoptic gospels, you don't hear it in Luke, you don't hear it anywhere. 02:03:03.063 --> 02:03:07.747 The only place you hear it is in Paul and you hear it in Ephesians. 02:03:07.747 --> 02:03:12.346 This is so important to understand because this is Paul's in captivity at this point. 02:03:12.614 --> 02:03:34.046 He's in prison for two years and he's meditating on these things and he's really starting to grasp these Old Testament things and he's like what I think you really hear it in Paul and not the others, because the others Matthew was a tax collector for the Romans, mark, as a disciple of Peter, was probably something like a fisherman. 02:03:34.046 --> 02:03:42.363 Luke was a physician right, john seems to have a good grasp of Greek philosophy, but Paul, he was a Pharisee. 02:03:42.363 --> 02:03:47.222 He knew the scriptures and you really see it in his writings. 02:03:47.615 --> 02:03:54.318 It's almost like why was he the apostle to the gentiles, like he should have been the apostle to the jews? 02:03:54.318 --> 02:03:56.582 He's the one making the arguments to the jews. 02:03:56.582 --> 02:03:57.907 Basically, it's like it. 02:03:57.907 --> 02:04:01.203 Do you know how long it took the church to really understand this? 02:04:01.203 --> 02:04:06.283 Like you have to realize that the mystical body of christ is something so second nature to catholics today. 02:04:06.283 --> 02:04:16.229 This, this theology, took hundreds of years to work out, for the church to really grasp what was going on, because you didn't, you didn't really see it until the church started to take form. 02:04:16.229 --> 02:04:25.390 And it's like I think, in like the

fourth century is when you start seeing some of the church fathers really trying to hammer out this idea of the body of Christ. 02:04:25.430 --> 02:04:27.685 Because it's only in the book of Ephesians, as far as I know. 02:04:27.685 --> 02:04:29.461 It might be in one of the other epistles of Paul, but I'm pretty sure it's only in Ephesians in the book of Ephesians. 02:04:29.461 --> 02:04:32.274 As far as I know, it might be in one of the other epistles of Paul, but I'm pretty sure it's only in Ephesians. 02:04:32.274 --> 02:04:36.780 Look, we get our entire ecclesiology from Ephesians. 02:04:36.780 --> 02:04:41.439 This is why what we're going through right now is the Catholic gospel. 02:04:41.439 --> 02:04:46.483 What Paul is saying here is the church itself is the gospel. 02:04:46.483 --> 02:04:48.952 Right. 02:04:48.992 --> 02:04:53.405 He's saying the church existed before the written gospels. 02:04:53.405 --> 02:04:54.537 Right, so you're right. 02:04:54.537 --> 02:04:59.908 The church is the body of christ, is the gospel given to the world by christ. 02:05:00.028 --> 02:05:07.503 So I'm watching the candace owens debate the other day and I'm watching ali stickley or whatever her name is, and she's like what is the simple gospel message? 02:05:07.503 --> 02:05:11.797 And they boil it down to do you believe in jesus christ and confess with your lips. 02:05:11.797 --> 02:05:12.987 And they and they boil it down to do you believe in Jesus Christ and confess with your lips. 02:05:12.987 --> 02:05:16.556 And they and they quote a couple of scripture verses and do you accept them as your personal Lord and savior? 02:05:16.556 --> 02:05:17.958 You're missing it. 02:05:17.958 --> 02:05:22.868 You don't understand how intricate it is to be put. 02:05:22.868 --> 02:05:25.039 Look, this is why Sedevichontas is wrong too. 02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:27.766 You cannot separate yourself from the body of Christ. 02:05:27.766 --> 02:05:32.404 You have to stay with the people of God, Like wherever the Eucharist is celebrated. 02:05:32.404 --> 02:05:47.936 It is a Eucharistic kingdom, which is why I actually do believe that the Orthodox in some way are Catholic, because they have a coherent Eucharistic theology and in some way, at the very least they're true Christians, protestants. 02:05:49.402 --> 02:05:53.835 They may be Christian by baptism but they are definitely separated, brother. 02:05:53.835 --> 02:05:58.184 You know they are separated, that the Orthodox I mean. 02:05:58.184 --> 02:06:06.444 At the very least they're very close relatives and you know I would, I would say your average like truly faithful. 02:06:06.444 --> 02:06:12.536 You know, russian peasant 100 years ago was probably almost entirely catholic in their belief. 02:06:12.536 --> 02:06:15.422 Would they have said they believe in like the american conception? 02:06:15.422 --> 02:06:17.377 Like if you gave them that title? 02:06:17.377 --> 02:06:17.918 Probably not. 02:06:17.918 --> 02:06:20.429 If you explained it to them, would they have said they believed it? 02:06:20.750 --> 02:06:27.037 I bet they would have yeah, yeah, I think even the orthodox would understand that if you explained it as mary is the ark of the. 02:06:27.037 --> 02:06:29.243 You know the new, know the New Covenant and all that stuff. 02:06:29.243 --> 02:06:31.688 But it's like this is the Catholic Gospel, guys. 02:06:31.688 --> 02:06:39.298 And wait until you see how intertwined it is with marriage, because everybody thinks Ephesians is just about marriage. 02:06:39.298 --> 02:06:44.979 No, it's so intertwined with marriage and the Church and the understanding of the Body of Christ. 02:06:44.979 --> 02:06:45.501 What did she? 02:06:46.324 --> 02:06:50.002 say she's talking about your comment about the set of the contest. 02:06:52.997 --> 02:06:53.421 No, no, no, no, no. 02:06:53.421 --> 02:06:53.664 Lauren, stay. 02:06:53.664 --> 02:06:54.414 I'm saying you can look, you can stay. 02:06:55.100 --> 02:07:03.163 Plus there are set of a contest like, like Joe, like Lauren, who they still believe like. 02:07:03.163 --> 02:07:06.479 They still believe like you and I are Catholic right. 02:07:06.479 --> 02:07:09.175 They still are still in communion with the body of Christ. 02:07:09.800 --> 02:07:12.880 They may not believe Francis is Pope Francis is a valid Pope. 02:07:13.175 --> 02:07:15.841 But that's not the same thing, Because I even question that a bit. 02:07:15.841 --> 02:07:23.628 So, lauren, I'm talking, if you're going to a settee chapel and you're considering yourself the true church, you can't do that. 02:07:23.628 --> 02:07:27.225 You have to still consider yourself Catholic and in communion with us. 02:07:27.225 --> 02:07:31.264 We all have to be in communion with each other. 02:07:32.755 --> 02:07:33.655 Not Joseph, not Joseph, not Joseph. 02:07:33.676 --> 02:07:36.159 Communion with us like it, just we all have to be in communion with each other. 02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:53.640 So not joseph, not this, not just, not jody, um, okay, so for this reason, I pull a prisoner of christ on behalf of you gentiles, assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of god's grace that was given to me for you how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:56.462 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ. 02:07:56.462 --> 02:07:57.484 Like is he bragging? 02:07:57.484 --> 02:08:05.122 As you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ he's not bragging, Whereby most people are reading it going oh, what's he mean. 02:08:05.784 --> 02:08:07.087 He's not bragging. 02:08:07.087 --> 02:08:08.096 Listen to what he says. 02:08:08.096 --> 02:08:23.957 For this reason I Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus, on behalf of you Gentiles, assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God's grace that was given to me for you how the mystery was made known to me by

revelation, as I have written briefly. 02:08:23.957 --> 02:08:35.069 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations, as it has been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the spirit. 02:08:35.069 --> 02:08:42.055 That is how the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body and partakers of the promise in Christ through the gospel. 02:08:42.055 --> 02:08:48.532 This is the gospel that Jews and Gentiles are now united in the new temple of Christ. 02:08:48.532 --> 02:08:49.699 Like that is the gospel. 02:08:50.141 --> 02:08:57.484 It's so profound to him because before the jews were so unique, they had to stay separated from the gentiles. 02:08:57.484 --> 02:08:59.596 It was look, the first heresy. 02:08:59.596 --> 02:09:04.307 Is what the judiaizers right and they want to make sure all the gentiles get circumcised. 02:09:04.307 --> 02:09:06.680 Paul is like you're out of your mind. 02:09:06.680 --> 02:09:08.525 He's ready to go and fight everybody over it. 02:09:08.525 --> 02:09:10.217 He's like you guys don't know what you're talking about. 02:09:10.217 --> 02:09:12.221 I'm telling you what was revealed including peter. 02:09:12.443 --> 02:09:14.367 He was including peter. 02:09:14.688 --> 02:09:18.925 He says if an angel from god comes to you and preaches a different gospel, let them be anathema. 02:09:18.925 --> 02:09:20.376 You don't get it. 02:09:20.376 --> 02:09:21.958 You don't need to be circumcised. 02:09:21.958 --> 02:09:23.523 No, this is the. 02:09:23.523 --> 02:09:24.905 This is it like we don't. 02:09:24.905 --> 02:09:26.176 We don't need the temple anymore. 02:09:26.176 --> 02:09:26.858 We don't need any of that. 02:09:26.858 --> 02:09:30.868 This is why, no, no, jews died in the sack of the temple in AD 70. 02:09:30.868 --> 02:09:35.239 None, because the early Christians right after. 02:09:35.300 --> 02:09:38.658 Look, you have to realize what's happening in Judaism at this point. 02:09:38.658 --> 02:09:40.622 The early Christians are a Jewish sect. 02:09:40.622 --> 02:09:42.447 They're going to the temple. 02:09:42.447 --> 02:09:44.198 They're still worshiping in the temple. 02:09:44.198 --> 02:09:45.842 They're following all the old laws. 02:09:45.842 --> 02:09:48.738 Still, they're just, you know, trying to work things out over here. 02:09:48.738 --> 02:10:09.408 This is a schism that is so profound in between Jews and Christians at this point that the Christians eventually start to realize wait, we don't need the temple anymore because we're breaking bread on the Lord's day, on the first day of the week Now, which you see in Acts 20, they're gathering to break bread on the first day of the week. 02:10:09.408 --> 02:10:11.724 They're not even celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday anymore. 02:10:11.724 --> 02:10:15.159 People have to really understand. 02:10:15.301 --> 02:10:16.524 Why do we have a weekend? 02:10:16.524 --> 02:10:20.126 Look, the earth revolves, takes 24 hours to spin. 02:10:20.126 --> 02:10:22.221 It goes around the sun 365 days. 02:10:22.221 --> 02:10:22.724 That's a year. 02:10:22.724 --> 02:10:24.039 Why do we have a seven-day week? 02:10:24.039 --> 02:10:26.721 Because God created the world in seven days. 02:10:26.721 --> 02:10:27.604 Why do we have a weekend? 02:10:27.604 --> 02:10:34.426 Because the early Christians some worshiped on Saturday and some worshiped on Sunday, so the Sabbath was Saturday and Sunday. 02:10:34.426 --> 02:10:39.427 So that became a five-day work week and a weekend to give the Sabbath to Christians. 02:10:39.427 --> 02:10:43.019 And you know whatever early Christians were still worshiping on Saturday. 02:10:43.019 --> 02:10:45.064 That's where we get the weekend from. 02:10:45.064 --> 02:10:52.186 This is we're so entrenched in Christian culture that people just don't realize it. 02:10:52.186 --> 02:10:54.380 It's also from the book of daniel. 02:10:54.380 --> 02:10:55.362 You know, we get the phrase. 02:10:55.362 --> 02:10:56.545 We get the phrase. 02:10:56.545 --> 02:11:02.126 The writing is on the wall from daniel, because nebuchadnezzar once again. 02:11:02.547 --> 02:11:09.243 Yeah, I didn't know the hand writing on the wall and he says to daniel what is the writing on the wall? 02:11:09.243 --> 02:11:11.788 And only Daniel can interpret the writing on the wall. 02:11:11.788 --> 02:11:14.744 So that phrase, the writing on the wall, comes from Daniel. 02:11:14.744 --> 02:11:16.979 Whoa, the sun goes around the earth. 02:11:16.979 --> 02:11:17.520 You know what? 02:11:17.560 --> 02:11:21.923 I said oh, I am a geocentrist, don't get me wrong. 02:11:21.923 --> 02:11:29.443 So that's what Paul is saying here. 02:11:29.443 --> 02:11:40.057 He's like the mystery that paul is talking about that is how the gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body and partakers of the promise in christ jesus. 02:11:40.057 --> 02:11:46.497 Through the gospel of this gospel, I was made a minister according to the gift of god's grace, which was given to me by the working of his power. 02:11:46.497 --> 02:11:49.421 To me, though, I am the very least of all the saints. 02:11:49.421 --> 02:11:53.404 Okay, in Paul's writing he starts off. 02:11:53.404 --> 02:11:55.207 He says me. 02:11:55.207 --> 02:12:02.322 He says the least of the apostles, first Now he says the least of all the saints. 02:12:02.322 --> 02:12:05.704 Then, later, he writes to Timothy and he says me, the chief of all sinners. 02:12:05.704 --> 02:12:13.328 The closer Paul is getting to Christ, it's like John the Baptist says he must increase and I must decrease. 02:12:13.328 --> 02:12:17.925 Paul is the longer he so like if you see the earlier epistles. 02:12:17.925 --> 02:12:24.326 Paul's very brash Like if you read the book of the mute your mic when you tap Rob. 02:12:24.787 --> 02:12:25.207 I'm sorry. 02:12:26.755 --> 02:12:31.358 So when Paul's writing to the

Galatians, you can see he's like a little mad and he's talking about the Judaizers. 02:12:31.358 --> 02:12:35.600 So when Paul's writing to the Galatians, you can see he's like a little mad and he's talking about the Judaizers and he's he's telling them. 02:12:35.600 --> 02:12:41.984 There's one line in Galatians where Paul actually he's talking about the priest of Artemis Ephesia, who I've mentioned a bunch of times on here, where they would actually castrate themselves. 02:12:41.984 --> 02:12:48.988 And Paul's talking about the Judaizers and he makes a quip and he says they should cut it all the way off because they're talking about circumcision. 02:12:48.988 --> 02:12:52.811 And he's like, yeah, circumcise, cut the whole thing off, go be a priest of Artemis Ephesia. 02:12:52.811 --> 02:12:58.996 If you guys think that's what it is, that's, that's anathema. 02:12:58.996 --> 02:12:59.457 That's not the gospel. 02:12:59.457 --> 02:13:00.238 I'm telling you what the gospel is Now. 02:13:00.259 --> 02:13:16.377 Paul wasn't even an original apostle and he's the one getting these revelations because he's so steeped in the Old Testament and when he cites Old Testament passages, he's citing them like a lawyer would cite previous court cases, so that he's looking at it like a judge that's reading, that is going to understand and say, oh, I remember that case, I remember that case. 02:13:16.658 --> 02:13:23.027 He's citing these Old Testament passages so that the Jews that read this are actually going oh wait a minute, that's what that prophecy meant. 02:13:23.027 --> 02:13:24.197 That's what that prophecy meant. 02:13:24.197 --> 02:13:26.722 Paul doesn't just randomly throw in these prophecies. 02:13:26.722 --> 02:13:52.469 He knows the old law, the law and the prophets so well, which is why I went back and started reading the Old Testament again, because I want to be soaked in the law and the prophets so much that when I'm reading Paul I don't because it doesn't always say when he's quoting the Old Testament, like I want to be able to read something and see it and go, oh, that's an Old Testament quote, like I want to know it that well, so I can actually really see what Paul's talking about when he's writing. 02:13:54.114 --> 02:13:54.876 That's another thing. 02:13:54.876 --> 02:14:06.622 The Protestants will never really be able to get fully, because there are multiple times that Paul and others quote the Septuagint and of course the Protestants don't have those books. 02:14:07.475 --> 02:14:08.520 Yeah, and they have to understand. 02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:13.912 So, like they'll say, well, we got those seven books out because that's not, that wasn't in the canon for the jews. 02:14:13.912 --> 02:14:22.046 Well, you have to remember when jesus this was a point that um, uh, candace owens husband made the. 02:14:22.046 --> 02:14:31.649 The pharisees, uh, the sadducees don't believe in the resurrection, right, they don't believe in life after death, and that's because they don't only accept the first five books, right, they don't have in life after death, and that's because they don't have to hold it. 02:14:31.670 --> 02:14:32.474 They only accept the first five books. 02:14:32.493 --> 02:14:34.442 Right, they don't have, like they're missing, those books. 02:14:34.442 --> 02:14:41.240 So no, it wasn't in the canon, but it was in the Catholic canon, because those are those books where it talks about the afterlife, the resurrection, all those things. 02:14:41.240 --> 02:14:45.501 The Catholic Church is the only one who has the authority to say what is a biblical canon. 02:14:45.501 --> 02:14:50.447 So you have the modern day Protestants got rid of those seven books, who knows why? 02:14:50.447 --> 02:14:52.569 Just arbitrarily because it didn't match their. 02:14:52.569 --> 02:14:56.484 It's pretty funny when you read St Francis of Sales. 02:14:56.484 --> 02:14:58.140 He is harsh on them. 02:14:58.140 --> 02:15:01.338 Oh, you didn't like purgatory, so you got rid of this book. 02:15:01.338 --> 02:15:04.560 How convenient he gets furious with them, you know. 02:15:07.686 --> 02:15:10.466 Okay, so let's see, where did I leave off Of this gospel? 02:15:10.466 --> 02:15:10.990 I was made a minister. 02:15:10.990 --> 02:15:14.918 Okay, so let's see, where did I leave off Of this gospel? 02:15:14.918 --> 02:15:21.550 I was made a minister according to the gift of God's grace, which was given to me by the working of his power. 02:15:21.550 --> 02:15:43.043 To me, though, I am the very least of the saints, this grace was given to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for all ages in God, who created all things, that, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. 02:15:43.305 --> 02:15:44.595 Okay, listen to what he's saying there. 02:15:44.595 --> 02:15:46.096 Listen to this. 02:15:46.096 --> 02:15:58.591 This is a real like you can't just read over something like that quick that through the church, the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers of the heavenly places. 02:15:58.591 --> 02:16:03.846 That is before angels would come and tell Mary something right. 02:16:03.846 --> 02:16:07.024 The angels would come and tell Joseph do this. 02:16:07.024 --> 02:16:13.037 The church now is revealing the mysteries to the principalities and powers. 02:16:13.037 --> 02:16:14.101 Think about that. 02:16:14.101 --> 02:16:19.721 The angels are sitting back and seeing what God did in man and going holy cow. 02:16:20.795 --> 02:16:24.481 And it is the church doing it, not Scripture. 02:16:25.425 --> 02:16:25.985 Exactly. 02:16:25.985 --> 02:16:29.445 How can you be Protestant and read this? 02:16:29.445 --> 02:16:31.578 Think about what they're saying here. 02:16:31.578 --> 02:16:36.118 Look, if you ever want to knock a

Protestant down, break open the book of Ephesians, because they can. 02:16:36.118 --> 02:16:37.362 What can they say? 02:16:37.362 --> 02:16:44.679 That through the church, the mystery of God is being made known to the principalities and powers that they didn't know. 02:16:44.679 --> 02:16:45.361 The whole story. 02:16:45.361 --> 02:16:47.774 The angels didn't know everything. 02:16:47.774 --> 02:16:52.685 And now that through the church, they're actually witnessing something that they're saying wow. 02:16:52.995 --> 02:16:55.263 Look at what God did with these lowly creatures. 02:16:55.263 --> 02:16:57.402 Look how many times they failed. 02:16:57.402 --> 02:16:58.083 Look at you. 02:16:58.083 --> 02:17:00.380 Go through Jewish history and you watch time after time. 02:17:00.380 --> 02:17:02.181 They fail, they fail, they fail, they fail. 02:17:02.181 --> 02:17:06.565 Now, through the church, you see God's dominion start to spread amongst the earth. 02:17:06.565 --> 02:17:08.722 How do you guys think the early church spread? 02:17:08.722 --> 02:17:18.764 Paul's going from city to city and preaching right, how do you know that city's going to remain Orthodox? 02:17:18.764 --> 02:17:23.737 Paul lays his hands on somebody and they literally receive gifts of the Holy Spirit for prophecy, for interpreting tongues, for all these things. 02:17:23.737 --> 02:17:42.788 The Holy Spirit was poured out upon the earth so that before we even had papal infallibility worked out, before we had any of that worked out, it was like you knew if somebody was touched by paul, they were going to be an orthodox so I'm just so paul is writing this while he's in prison in rome, right? 02:17:44.718 --> 02:17:46.260 yeah, that's what it's for. 02:17:46.260 --> 02:17:48.263 For this reason, I paul a prisoner, prisoner for Christ. 02:17:48.263 --> 02:17:52.850 So that was in like 60, 61, 62. 02:17:53.056 --> 02:17:55.820 I think it was 56 AD, 56 or 58 AD. 02:17:55.820 --> 02:17:57.581 He's been in prison two years. 02:17:57.581 --> 02:17:59.402 I think he was in 56 AD. 02:17:59.402 --> 02:18:00.978 It's like 58 AD. 02:18:00.978 --> 02:18:02.625 He's been in prison for two years at this point. 02:18:03.674 --> 02:18:10.575 So, like you said, I mean Paul is saying that this is before the New Testament. 02:18:10.575 --> 02:18:21.969 A lot of it is even written that the church, for these 20 plus years at this point, has been making known to the angels the plan of salvation. 02:18:21.969 --> 02:18:30.727 And that Paul even says here that this was according to the eternal purpose which was realized in christ. 02:18:30.727 --> 02:18:39.658 So the eternal purpose of christ was to leave the church for us and have the church reveal these things to us yeah. 02:18:39.699 --> 02:18:58.949 So to me, though I am the very least of the saints, this grace was given to preach to the gentiles the unsearchable riches of christ and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for all

ages in God, who created all things that through the church, the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. 02:18:59.375 --> 02:19:09.906 This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus, our Lord, in whom we have boldness and confidence of access through our faith in him. 02:19:09.906 --> 02:19:15.718 So I ask you not to lose heart over what I am suffering for you, which is your glory, so Paul's suffering. 02:19:15.718 --> 02:19:22.644 He's like don't worry about me, like seeing you, seeing the glory spread, like I don't care, like I don't even care. 02:19:22.644 --> 02:19:26.926 I'm seeing the church do this thing and he's meditating on these things and his mind is blown. 02:19:26.926 --> 02:19:35.931 And he has to know I'm writing this letter that will be studied for generations to come and they will really perceive my insights into the mystery of Christ. 02:19:35.931 --> 02:19:40.065 I mean he couldn't possibly have written that and thought the first time they read it they'd understand it. 02:19:41.996 --> 02:19:43.039 What do you make of this? 02:19:43.039 --> 02:19:47.488 So Paul says, though, I am the very least of all the saints. 02:19:48.375 --> 02:19:53.559 Yeah, so in Paul's time they were, the people that were becoming Christians were considered saints. 02:19:53.559 --> 02:19:59.859 It took some time for the church to like work out canonization and actually hold people up. 02:19:59.859 --> 02:20:07.679 So if you really understand what a saint is to us, now it's it really develops in what they would call the dark ages. 02:20:07.679 --> 02:20:15.166 It's not really, but it starts off with, um, uh, justin the martyr, uh, justin martyr. 02:20:15.166 --> 02:20:20.051 Um and uh, somebody else, but it's, it's like they. 02:20:20.051 --> 02:20:32.200 They actually start to venerate the saints because God starts to grant favors when they ask the intercession of these people who had passed on, because they're really starting to grasp that when you die, you're not dead, like your spirit. 02:20:32.200 --> 02:20:43.236 Spirit goes to, goes to god, and god wants you to still have a relationship with the saints that came before us, so that you actually know that we are a universal family throughout time and space. 02:20:43.316 --> 02:20:49.168 And it doesn't matter when, like I don't know anybody past my great-grandfather. 02:20:49.168 --> 02:20:53.261 My family ancestry is the saints. 02:20:53.261 --> 02:21:02.260 It's not like like if you read the old Testament, like they're always so meticulous about son of this one, son of this one, son of this one, and they go through genealogies that are insane. 02:21:02.260 --> 02:21:04.430 I don't know anybody past my great grandfather. 02:21:04.430 --> 02:21:12.131 So when I'm reading about St Basil in Tom Tom Holland's book, I'm like this is my inherited, like this is my heritage. 02:21:12.131 --> 02:21:19.295 This

is what this is my family that came through time and changed the face of the earth, our family, are heroes. 02:21:19.295 --> 02:21:21.977 Of course we should lift them up. 02:21:21.977 --> 02:21:25.594 The word means holy. 02:21:25.594 --> 02:21:26.699 Yeah, saints does mean holy. 02:21:27.851 --> 02:21:29.859 Yeah, I was looking it up in Greek. 02:21:29.859 --> 02:21:41.406 I don't know how to read Greeks or how it would be pronounced, but in Greek a saint was anyone devoted to the gods, or devoted to God, or someone who was sacred or holy. 02:21:41.406 --> 02:21:47.322 So Paul really just means anyone, really any member of the church, I would imagine at that point. 02:21:49.452 --> 02:21:50.975 Yeah, at that point, definitely so. 02:21:50.975 --> 02:21:52.176 It's it's like. 02:21:52.176 --> 02:22:01.430 But the church over time develops a theology where it wants to hold very specific people up as canon and they call it, raise them to the altars, right. 02:22:01.430 --> 02:22:09.229 So like even at every church, in an old altar, like the reason that the new table altars are, they don't have. 02:22:09.229 --> 02:22:21.202 They don't have any relics in them, like those altars that were up against the wall, those all had relics in them some of the tables have little spots for altar stones but not all, but not all of them. 02:22:21.243 --> 02:22:29.278 And it's not the same thing, like you would raise saints to the altars because we would see something of christ in that person matter of fact, that's what it was called. 02:22:29.518 --> 02:22:34.337 When someone was someone was canonized, they were raised to the altar raised toed to the altars. 02:22:34.699 --> 02:22:37.836 So it's like when we talked to Father Maudsley the other day, we were going over this. 02:22:37.836 --> 02:22:42.837 But I watched A Hidden Life last night which I haven't seen since it first came out. 02:22:42.837 --> 02:22:49.154 It's a very long movie but it's one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen. 02:22:49.154 --> 02:22:50.932 Man, it's like this guy. 02:22:50.932 --> 02:23:00.778 He's in the church at one point and you just see the beauty of this Gothic cathedral from before the council and you're just struck by the beauty of it. 02:23:00.778 --> 02:23:06.020 And he's having a conversation with this guy and he's talking about how he paints images of the suffering Christ. 02:23:06.020 --> 02:23:10.590 And he's like how can I paint images of Christ suffering when I myself haven't suffered that? 02:23:10.590 --> 02:23:18.934 And you're seeing a part of Christ in this man who's about to lay his life down because he will not take the oath to Hitler. 02:23:18.934 --> 02:23:20.097 He won't do it. 02:23:20.780 --> 02:23:28.264 For those of you who don't know, a Hidden Life is a movie about Blessed Franz Jagerstetter, who was in Austria. 02:23:28.264 --> 02:23:39.817 He actually did take the oath to Hitler the first time, the first time he served in the military, but he was

sent home then, and then I want to say it was in 43. 02:23:39.817 --> 02:23:44.541 He was conscripted again and was asked to take the oath to Hitler and he refused. 02:23:44.541 --> 02:23:46.957 He was ended up beheaded for it. 02:23:47.719 --> 02:23:48.550 Yeah, and it's like. 02:23:48.550 --> 02:23:54.417 But you see how much he's struggling, where he's just like it's almost like the first time he takes the oath. 02:23:54.417 --> 02:24:08.102 It's really because germany hasn't gone full out on what they're about to do at that point, like they're, you know it's it's when it's early on, they're just you know germany's been getting the crud beat out of them after the treaty of versailles and all that. 02:24:08.102 --> 02:24:09.909 So you know he goes in the first time. 02:24:09.909 --> 02:24:19.150 But then once he starts seeing they're going into poland and're going into France and they're going, and he's like we're not the good guys, like I can't, I can't, I can't go along with this anymore. 02:24:19.471 --> 02:24:22.337 But you see a part of Christ in him. 02:24:22.337 --> 02:24:23.320 You just do. 02:24:23.320 --> 02:24:30.102 You see, when somebody lays down their life as a sacrifice, it is divine love and you see a part of Christ in that person. 02:24:30.102 --> 02:24:39.415 And that's really what we're pointing out in the saints and we're saying look, this is a person who lived their life so radically holy that you can emulate this person and you're really emulating Christ. 02:24:39.415 --> 02:24:43.595 You're not really emulating a person, you're emulating Christ, because you see Christ as a person. 02:24:43.636 --> 02:24:46.653 Or an aspect of Christ, an aspect of Christ's personality. 02:24:46.653 --> 02:24:52.726 Now, different saints show a different aspect of him and your personality type might be suited to be more like that person. 02:24:52.726 --> 02:24:54.209 So you can see it in father aurelia. 02:24:54.209 --> 02:24:58.718 Father really is very similar to padre pio, which is why he has a devotion to him. 02:24:58.718 --> 02:25:04.520 You know, you can see that he's from that cut of that mold where my mother could never be like padre pio. 02:25:04.520 --> 02:25:17.141 My mother's really like saint terry, saint therese the little flower, like there's different aspects of christ personality that will actually you'll be able to say wait, maybe I can emulate that and that's how I can emulate Christ, because you can't be all of Christ. 02:25:17.862 --> 02:25:18.143 None of us. 02:25:18.143 --> 02:25:21.694 It's why we have so many different uh spiritualities within the church. 02:25:21.694 --> 02:25:34.479 You know whether you're more of um uh you know someone like a Thomas or Dominican who loves the intellectual study or, whether you know, you're a passionist who loves to pray and concentrate on the passion. 02:25:34.479 --> 02:25:43.320 There's so many different aspects of the faith and of Christ that we can find our little niche in

right. 02:25:44.423 --> 02:25:47.316 Yeah, I've been trying to really get myself to like. 02:25:47.316 --> 02:25:51.796 When I meditate on the passion, it's like a lot of times I just try to like. 02:25:51.796 --> 02:26:08.120 I think what I used to do is I used to meditate on like from the movie the passion, because you want to really, but but it's like we really should be going deeper and saying, okay, well, how can I suffer, like willingly, like what are the things that I can do to be like Christ? 02:26:08.120 --> 02:26:12.352 It's not just focusing on Christ, passion it's it's. 02:26:12.352 --> 02:26:15.398 How can I emulate that? 02:26:15.398 --> 02:26:15.940 Like what? 02:26:15.940 --> 02:26:18.073 What are ways that I can actually emulate that? 02:26:18.613 --> 02:26:29.542 I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all lowliness and meekness, with patience, forbearing one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the spirit and the bond of peace. 02:26:29.542 --> 02:26:34.842 There is one body and one spirit, just as you were called to, the one hope that belongs to your call. 02:26:34.842 --> 02:26:45.110 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all but grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ's gift. 02:26:45.110 --> 02:26:50.082 Therefore, it is said, when he ascended on high, he led a host of captives and he gave gifts to men. 02:26:50.082 --> 02:26:51.532 That's an Old Testament quote. 02:26:52.315 --> 02:26:58.352 Like that's therefore is said when he said that's right after 8,. 02:26:58.371 --> 02:26:59.796 So Ephesians 4, 8. 02:26:59.796 --> 02:27:03.677 See what Old Testament text that is, because you can do that with thereof. 02:27:03.677 --> 02:27:07.314 Right, Ephesians 4, verse 8. 02:27:07.314 --> 02:27:09.921 Right there. 02:27:10.010 --> 02:27:10.390 Click that. 02:27:10.411 --> 02:27:12.338 Let's see if that brings anything up. 02:27:12.338 --> 02:27:18.733 It's in quotes, therefore it is said when he is. 02:27:18.733 --> 02:27:19.254 It's psalms. 02:27:19.475 --> 02:27:20.377 Psalm 68. 02:27:20.377 --> 02:27:33.504 Now, that's psalm 68 according to the masoretic at the dewey reams of 67 or 69, I don't know which one right but either way, paul is not just throwing that in, that's really what he's meditating. 02:27:33.664 --> 02:27:37.977 And he's seen that when he ascended on high, he led a host of captives and he gave gifts to men. 02:27:37.977 --> 02:27:40.490 In saying he ascended, what does it mean? 02:27:40.490 --> 02:27:43.298 But that he also descended into the lower parts of the earth. 02:27:43.298 --> 02:27:44.561 This is where we get. 02:27:44.561 --> 02:27:45.832 He descended to the dead. 02:27:45.832 --> 02:27:52.653 He who descended is he who also ascended, far above all the heavens that he might fill all things. 02:27:53.014 --> 02:28:10.752 And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for the works of his ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the son of God, to mature manhood, to the, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. 02:28:10.752 --> 02:28:14.477 Like we're all going, like we're supposed to be made in his image. 02:28:14.477 --> 02:28:17.602 We don't know what we will be, but we know we will be like him. 02:28:17.602 --> 02:28:53.376 This is what he's talking about being like, increasing in holiness, so that we may no longer be children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the cunning of men, by their craftiness and deceitful wiles, rather speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him, who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by every joint with which it is supplied, when each part is working properly, makes bodily growth and up-builds itself in love Again, mixing those metaphors, with the temple growing and the body being built. 02:28:53.376 --> 02:28:58.998 Look, we're going to get into the. 02:28:58.998 --> 02:29:01.042 Maybe I'll wait until we get to there before I get into that. 02:29:01.102 --> 02:29:07.323 So all right, now this I affirm and testify in the Lord that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. 02:29:07.323 --> 02:29:13.722 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to their hardness of heart. 02:29:13.722 --> 02:29:25.412 From the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to their hardness of heart, they have become callous and have given themselves up to licentiousness, greedy to practice every kind of uncleanness. 02:29:25.412 --> 02:29:28.299 You did not so learn Christ, assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him as the truth is in Jesus. 02:29:28.299 --> 02:29:41.979 Put off your old nature, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds and put on a new nature, created after the likeness of God, and true righteousness and holiness. 02:29:45.490 --> 02:29:50.155 Then he goes through like a bunch of stuff, saying you know, be angry, but don't sin, let no evil come out of you. 02:29:50.155 --> 02:29:51.594 So let's go to chapter 5. 02:29:51.594 --> 02:29:59.810 Therefore, be imitators of God, as beloved children, and walk in love, as christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to god. 02:29:59.810 --> 02:30:05.533 But fornication and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is fitting among saints. 02:30:05.533 --> 02:30:10.975 Let there be no filthiness, nor silly talk, nor levity, which are all silly talk.

02:30:11.595 --> 02:30:13.459 Yeah, are we allowed to even do this podcast? 02:30:13.459 --> 02:30:15.824 But instead let there be thanksgiving. 02:30:15.909 --> 02:30:23.420 Be sure of this that no fornicator or impure man or one who is covetous, that is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 02:30:23.420 --> 02:30:29.620 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for it is because of these things that the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 02:30:29.620 --> 02:30:31.653 He's referencing what he wrote in Romans. 02:30:31.653 --> 02:30:34.355 Like the sons of disobedience, the wrath of God is clear. 02:30:34.355 --> 02:30:41.806 Like there's like a list of things that come and eventually the wrath is so bad that you are men desiring men and women desiring women. 02:30:41.806 --> 02:30:49.355 Like that really is a natural consequence to the people who practice these things. 02:30:49.355 --> 02:30:55.555 Therefore, do not associate with them, for once you were darkness, but now you are the light and the Lord. 02:30:55.555 --> 02:30:56.256 Walk as children of light. 02:30:56.256 --> 02:30:59.364 Do not associate with them, for once you were darkness, but now you are the light and the Lord. 02:30:59.364 --> 02:31:03.253 Walk as children of light, for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true, and try to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. 02:31:03.253 --> 02:31:03.894 Take no part in unfruitfulness. 02:31:03.894 --> 02:31:05.236 Okay, all right, let's go down to 15. 02:31:05.236 --> 02:31:12.524 Look carefully, then, how you walk, not as unwise men, but as wise, making the most of time because the days are evil. 02:31:12.524 --> 02:31:16.165 Therefore, do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the lord is and do not get drunk. 02:31:16.165 --> 02:31:17.025 Where's okay? 02:31:17.025 --> 02:31:18.307 Here we go. 02:31:18.307 --> 02:31:23.208 Be subject to one another out of reverence for christ. 02:31:23.347 --> 02:31:29.816 Wives, be subject to your husband as to the lord, for the husband is the head of the wife, as christ is the head of the church, his body. 02:31:29.816 --> 02:31:34.652 Look, we all love to hear that, right, every guy gets so excited. 02:31:34.652 --> 02:31:36.054 It's like, yeah, I'm a wives-be subject. 02:31:36.054 --> 02:31:50.582 Look, it's not like Christ is the head and we're the torso, because in other letters Paul says not everyone can be ears, not everyone can be eyes, right, so like nobody can be eyes or ears if Christ is the head, if that's what that means, that's not what that means. 02:31:50.582 --> 02:31:56.352 Christ is the head of the church, as Adam was the head of Eve. 02:31:56.352 --> 02:32:00.102 This is why Paul starts getting into this marital theology here. 02:32:00.102 --> 02:32:08.549 Like the union of Christ to the church is so intertwined with marriage it's like beyond anything you can even grasp. 02:32:08.629 --> 02:32:10.656 And marriage, of course, being the first covenant. 02:32:11.819 --> 02:32:12.040 Right. 02:32:12.040 --> 02:32:15.019 So be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ. 02:32:15.019 --> 02:32:23.864 Wives be subject to your husband as to the Lord, for the husband is the head of the wife of Christ, as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its savior. 02:32:23.864 --> 02:32:28.799 As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. 02:32:28.799 --> 02:32:45.932 Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water, with the word that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 02:32:45.932 --> 02:32:48.918 Even so, husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. 02:32:48.918 --> 02:32:57.322 He who loves his wife loves himself, for no man ever hates his, his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it as christ does the church, because we are members of his body. 02:32:57.361 --> 02:33:00.634 Like this, the marriage and the church are so intricate. 02:33:00.634 --> 02:33:02.558 This is just like I've said. 02:33:02.558 --> 02:33:06.394 It's like you can't unconsecrate the body of christ once it's consecrated. 02:33:06.394 --> 02:33:09.851 You can't unconsecrate husband and wife, because they are one flesh. 02:33:09.851 --> 02:33:19.154 At that point, for no man oh for this man, for this, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. 02:33:19.154 --> 02:33:20.778 This is a great mystery. 02:33:20.778 --> 02:33:21.981 Back to the mystery again. 02:33:21.981 --> 02:33:25.559 This is a great mystery, and I mean in reference to Christ and the church. 02:33:25.559 --> 02:33:31.002 However, let each one of you love his wife as himself and let the wife see that she respects her husband. 02:33:31.002 --> 02:33:34.014 Children obey your parents and the Lord, for this is right. 02:33:34.014 --> 02:33:44.750 Honor your father and mother, for this is the commandment, with promise that it may be well with you and that you may live long on the earth. 02:33:44.750 --> 02:33:47.679 Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger Slaves. 02:33:47.679 --> 02:33:48.521 Be obedient. 02:33:49.650 --> 02:33:52.180 I was just going to say, with the children and parents. 02:33:52.180 --> 02:34:01.625 As we saw the previous section, chapter 5, paul was talking both about husbands and wives, but also about Christ and the church. 02:34:01.625 --> 02:34:23.343 So this 6 is as well lady, obey the hierarchy, but also fathers, you know priests bishops, popes, do not provoke your children to anger as well. 02:34:23.343 --> 02:34:25.068 So we should see this, this passage, in lieu of the church as well. 02:34:25.250 --> 02:34:26.191 Like we skip over that.

02:34:26.191 --> 02:34:37.814 It's like don't provoke people to anger if, just because you have authority over them, like having authority is such a profound thing, like you do not Lord that authority over and think that, oh, you have to be subject to me. 02:34:37.814 --> 02:34:39.819 No, no, no, no, no, no. 02:34:39.819 --> 02:34:41.716 We talked about this the other day. 02:34:41.716 --> 02:34:46.915 It's like a person that has authority, that has to enforce his authority, doesn't really have authority. 02:34:48.351 --> 02:34:50.877 He might have authority, but he has no power, no power. 02:34:52.200 --> 02:34:52.881 Yeah, it's like. 02:34:52.881 --> 02:34:56.219 So, finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. 02:34:56.219 --> 02:35:10.440 Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil, for we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness and the heavenly places. 02:35:10.440 --> 02:35:47.933 Therefore, take the whole armor of God that you, yeah, darts of the evil one, and take the helmet of salvation, the sword of the spirit and the word of God. 02:35:47.933 --> 02:35:48.495 Pray at all times. 02:35:48.495 --> 02:35:49.495 Uh, yeah, so that's, that's pretty much. 02:35:49.495 --> 02:35:49.575 It. 02:35:49.575 --> 02:35:51.038 Like this is so important that this is the Catholic gospel. 02:35:51.038 --> 02:35:59.191 It's not just believe in Jesus as your personal Lord and savior, it's not just that you're going to go to heaven If you, you know, uh, it's just they. 02:35:59.191 --> 02:36:02.540 They just limit it so much to what it really is. 02:36:02.540 --> 02:36:11.424 It's like the, the, the idea that it's that simple just bothers me. 02:36:11.424 --> 02:36:12.934 Like they're missing the whole thing. 02:36:13.034 --> 02:36:23.122 Like this the marital theology is so important, the command of men to be men and to really take that role seriously. 02:36:23.122 --> 02:36:26.594 And it's like I was talking to my son after after mass the other day. 02:36:26.594 --> 02:36:31.621 It was pretty funny because we went and it was like one of the worst homilies. 02:36:31.621 --> 02:36:33.436 It was like a really bad homily. 02:36:33.436 --> 02:36:36.238 The father was terrible, but it was such a good reading. 02:36:36.459 --> 02:36:40.975 It's like Jesus is telling the apostles unless I leave, the paraclete can't come. 02:36:40.975 --> 02:36:43.879 And the paraclete will come and he will reveal all truth to you. 02:36:43.879 --> 02:36:48.400 The paraclete is he who will come and he will show you justice and truth. 02:36:48.400 --> 02:37:01.118 So it's like when, when Jesus says that it's like this is what we were talking about the other day when Jesus, when God says in the old Testament, my spirit will cover the earth, like the paraclete comes and we

don't convert people. 02:37:01.118 --> 02:37:02.219 God converts people. 02:37:02.219 --> 02:37:05.334 His spirit has to come in somebody's heart and reveal the truth to them. 02:37:05.735 --> 02:37:07.840 So we should not have non-Christian friends. 02:37:07.840 --> 02:37:10.513 But does this include family members who are non-Christians? 02:37:10.513 --> 02:37:12.878 Because Jesus said he came to bring a sword and a five-in-one? 02:37:12.878 --> 02:37:15.963 I wouldn't say you shouldn't have non-Christian friends. 02:37:15.963 --> 02:37:22.002 I would say that you have to make sure you have community with fellow Christians. 02:37:22.002 --> 02:37:27.790 We're called to be in the world, but not of the world, right, but we're called to evangelize people. 02:37:27.790 --> 02:37:32.682 I have been since this year especially, especially the last six months. 02:37:32.682 --> 02:37:41.453 I've had some really powerful prayer experiences where God kind of showed me like I can't take my conversations with people lightly, like every word. 02:37:41.554 --> 02:37:45.984 I say as meaning and and and like it's, it's. 02:37:45.984 --> 02:37:50.822 You can't just use your words so loosely when you're talking, especially dealing face to face. 02:37:50.822 --> 02:37:58.063 Right, we're online, we're goofing around making jokes and stuff, but, like every conversation I have with people now, I try to make purposeful. 02:37:58.063 --> 02:38:01.356 I try to bring things up that might, you know, spark their interest. 02:38:01.356 --> 02:38:06.310 It doesn't have to be shoving Jesus down their throat, but maybe bring up some of the things that we've been talking about on this show. 02:38:06.310 --> 02:38:08.297 Look man, you see what's going on on this outside world. 02:38:08.297 --> 02:38:09.521 This kind of looks weird over here. 02:38:09.521 --> 02:38:15.451 What's? 02:38:15.471 --> 02:38:15.632 going on. 02:38:15.632 --> 02:38:17.680 Just bring these things up to get people's hearts to just like question things a little bit. 02:38:17.680 --> 02:38:21.754 You know I would say and I don't this is just off the top of my head right now, but you know it says jesus. 02:38:21.754 --> 02:38:24.102 Jesus did say he came to bring a sword. 02:38:24.102 --> 02:38:26.369 Well, what did jesus bring us? 02:38:26.369 --> 02:38:28.352 Jesus brought us the church. 02:38:28.352 --> 02:38:30.216 The church is that sword. 02:38:30.216 --> 02:38:42.145 I mean, I'm not going to say don't have non-christian friends or family members or anything like that, but, um, you have to present the, the church in truth. 02:38:42.145 --> 02:38:54.781 Now, like father isaac said while he talked with us, you have to know when to do so, because sometimes doing presenting the fullness of truth sometimes actually causes more sin to enter the world than there would have been. 02:38:54.781 --> 02:39:00.483 But so you shouldn't be that sword that divides people. 02:39:00.483 --> 02:39:02.515 Present the church as it is. 02:39:02.515 --> 02:39:03.715 Present the faith as it is. 02:39:05.091 --> 02:39:06.215 And that will be the sword. 02:39:06.215 --> 02:39:07.299 That will be the sword. 02:39:15.439 --> 02:39:17.662 And those people will. 02:39:17.662 --> 02:39:19.022 The church is an obstacle to. 02:39:19.022 --> 02:39:21.765 They're the ones that leave. 02:39:21.765 --> 02:39:25.120 They're the ones that separate themselves from you. 02:39:25.120 --> 02:39:33.138 It's the wheat separating itself from the chaff, really, kevin you're saying, yes, 100%, question things. 02:39:33.229 --> 02:39:35.118 You should go back and listen to this episode. 02:39:35.118 --> 02:39:40.335 If you're willing to question things, go back and listen to this whole episode. 02:39:40.335 --> 02:39:43.863 That's absolutely true. 02:39:43.863 --> 02:39:47.681 How would anybody revert Kevin back to the faith if no Catholics would be his friends? 02:39:47.681 --> 02:39:50.033 Kevin, you are. 02:39:50.033 --> 02:39:55.197 You're not an atheist dude, you're an agnostic and you're going through a phase. 02:39:55.197 --> 02:39:57.993 You're coming back to the church, dude. 02:39:57.993 --> 02:40:02.878 You hang around Catholics all the time, like he's on every Catholic chat. 02:40:02.878 --> 02:40:05.299 He has a show discussing things with Catholics. 02:40:05.299 --> 02:40:06.414 He wants to come back. 02:40:06.414 --> 02:40:07.037 So bad. 02:40:07.037 --> 02:40:09.737 He's just waiting for he needs look. 02:40:10.771 --> 02:40:16.742 I think Kevin is at a point where he can't force himself to believe something he doesn't know to be true in his heart yet. 02:40:16.742 --> 02:40:34.623 But I think if you open your heart and you actually go back and listen to an episode like this, you'll see how intricate God was in his promises and how unbelievably unlikely it is that these prophecies could be fulfilled like this by chance. 02:40:34.623 --> 02:40:37.024 It just couldn't happen. 02:40:37.024 --> 02:40:43.047 Like paul is not making this up, paul is really losing his mind. 02:40:43.047 --> 02:40:45.188 Like you guys don't even know what god's showing me. 02:40:45.188 --> 02:40:52.233 I'm trying to share it with you and I can only put it in these insanely complicated words and it's going to take hundreds of years for you guys to extrapolate the full meaning of it. 02:40:52.233 --> 02:40:57.155 And then people are going to grab this book and read this 1,500 years later and completely confuse everything. 02:40:57.155 --> 02:40:58.479 I said yeah. 02:40:59.792 --> 02:41:08.236 I wish Paul had left out the part about becoming apostles and prophets, because that would have taken care of so many crazy nonsense. 02:41:11.082 --> 02:41:19.738 Look, it's like if it wasn't for the Holy Spirit enlightening the church fathers to these things, we would have came up with wacky theology like the Protestants did. 02:41:19.738 --> 02:41:21.992 So I have another question Was this about the book

of Daniel? 02:41:21.992 --> 02:41:23.656 Yes, it was, yeah. 02:41:23.676 --> 02:41:31.221 So it was about how the book of Daniel, how the book of Ephesians, is really a typological fulfillment of the book of Daniel. 02:41:31.221 --> 02:41:45.181 So the Danielic mystery in Ephphesians because paul, throughout the whole book, is referencing this mystery that's in the book of daniel and it shows how you know paul, like it really is the backdrop that paul's referencing throughout the entire book. 02:41:45.181 --> 02:41:55.998 But yeah, it's like if you don't have the spirit guiding the church fathers, it's then we would have came up with the same crazy theology that the Protestants did. 02:41:55.998 --> 02:41:58.494 You see what happens when some random person grabs the Bible. 02:41:59.059 --> 02:42:01.897 I was going to say you see that happening very early on in the church. 02:42:01.897 --> 02:42:18.275 I mean, obviously you mentioned the Judaizers, but you had the Montanists and I think it was the 2nd or 3rd century who thought they were prophets and direct mouthpieces for the, the holy ghost, um, you know stuff like that. 02:42:18.335 --> 02:42:38.084 So the one other thing I want to do before we go is I want to connect all of this to the apocalypse. 02:42:38.084 --> 02:42:51.740 All right, then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me come and I will show you the judgment of the great harlot, who is seated upon many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication and with the wine of whose fornication the dwellers on earth have become drunk. 02:42:51.740 --> 02:43:00.112 And he carried me away with the spirit into the wilderness and and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of blasphemous names and it had seven heads and 10 horns. 02:43:00.112 --> 02:43:01.977 That's that image from Daniel seven. 02:43:01.977 --> 02:43:14.936 Again, the woman was a raid in purple and scarlet and bedecked with gold jewels Sorry guys and pearls holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and impurities in her fornication. 02:43:14.936 --> 02:43:22.495 And on her forehead was written the mystery Babylon, the great mother of harlots and of the earth's abominations. 02:43:22.495 --> 02:43:26.554 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints and of the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. 02:43:26.554 --> 02:43:28.779 When I saw her, I marveled greatly. 02:43:28.779 --> 02:43:30.550 But the angel said to me why marvel? 02:43:30.550 --> 02:43:35.077 I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast with the seven heads and the ten horns that carries her. 02:43:35.077 --> 02:43:41.736 The beast that you saw was and is not, and is to ascend from the bottomless pit and to go to perdition. 02:43:41.736 --> 02:43:54.842 The beast that you saw was this is babylon that was originally with nebuchadnezzar and is not, because it's gone and is to ascend from the bottomless pit. 02:43:56.043 -->

02:44:14.156 So what I was talking about in the first episode, with all these demons arising and these things that are coming back because christianity is no longer doing, those that ringing the bells and during the angelus and they're no longer doing processions and and and having incense go around, those spirits have been released from the bottomless pit. 02:44:14.156 --> 02:44:29.335 Now, if you really want to go into something wild, you can go into Cornelius at Lappidae and he actually says what, like, what? 02:44:29.335 --> 02:44:30.618 All this is okay. 02:44:30.618 --> 02:44:39.917 So you talk about Catechism 675, before christ's second coming, the church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. 02:44:39.917 --> 02:44:51.941 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the mystery of iniquity in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. 02:44:51.941 --> 02:45:01.313 Supreme deception is that of the antichrist a, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh. 02:45:01.734 --> 02:45:02.835 So now, revelation 8. 02:45:02.835 --> 02:45:09.470 The third angel blew his trumpet and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 02:45:09.470 --> 02:45:10.852 The name of the star is Wormwood. 02:45:10.852 --> 02:45:12.435 A third of the waters became Wormwood. 02:45:12.435 --> 02:45:14.700 Many died from the water because it was made bitter. 02:45:14.700 --> 02:45:17.043 So this is Cornelius Labaday's interpretation. 02:45:17.043 --> 02:45:24.513 The name Wormwood denotes a bitter and poisonous nature. 02:45:24.513 --> 02:45:25.655 This vision is a striking image of an unfaithful bishop. 02:45:25.655 --> 02:45:28.843 Christ gives us the living water, while these men give us poisonous water. 02:45:28.843 --> 02:45:31.844 Countless faithful drink from these streams of poisonous water. 02:45:31.844 --> 02:45:33.406 They embrace false doctrine and perish. 02:45:33.406 --> 02:45:36.247 So the name Wyrmwood denotes a bitter nature. 02:45:36.247 --> 02:45:40.856 The vision is a striking image of priests and bishops who are giving you poisonous doctrine. 02:45:40.856 --> 02:45:42.376 Tell me that's not what we're dealing with right now. 02:45:44.977 --> 02:45:47.736 Prior to this right, Because that's in Revelation 7. 02:45:48.450 --> 02:45:49.636 That's in 8, Revelation 8. 02:45:50.150 --> 02:46:01.695 So, prior to what we're talking about here, Right, okay, so now the what we're talking about here, right, okay, so now the fourth angel blew his trumpet and a third of the sun was struck and a third of the moon and a third of the stars, so that a third of their light was darkened and a third of the day was kept from shining. 02:46:01.695 --> 02:46:02.519 Likewise, the night. 02:46:02.519

--> 02:46:06.075 The thoughts of many this is, according to Yosef Labadei. 02:46:06.075 --> 02:46:10.775 The thoughts of many hearts are being revealed more and more as the gospel is preached throughout the world. 02:46:10.775 --> 02:46:12.438 Many reject it, others abandon it. 02:46:12.438 --> 02:46:14.521 There's a growing decadence in the church. 02:46:14.521 --> 02:46:17.023 It's doctrine and sanctity shine with diminished luster. 02:46:17.023 --> 02:46:18.425 The day is less brilliant. 02:46:18.425 --> 02:46:20.174 The night of ignorance becomes much darker. 02:46:20.174 --> 02:46:23.031 This is symbolized by the darkening of the sun, the stars and the moon. 02:46:25.757 --> 02:46:27.161 And the fifth angel blew his trumpet. 02:46:27.161 --> 02:46:28.323 Now, this is Revelation 9. 02:46:28.323 --> 02:46:29.411 The fifth angel blew his trumpet. 02:46:29.411 --> 02:46:35.097 I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit. 02:46:35.097 --> 02:46:36.199 So what did we just read? 02:46:36.199 --> 02:46:40.103 That the beast will rise from the bottomless pit. 02:46:40.103 --> 02:46:46.360 Right, and the fifth angel blew his trumpet and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit. 02:46:46.360 --> 02:46:54.340 He opened the shaft of the bottomless pit and from the shaft rose smoke, like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft. 02:46:54.340 --> 02:46:55.983 Then from the smoke came locusts. 02:46:55.983 --> 02:46:56.843 Smoke of Satan perhaps? 02:46:56.843 --> 02:46:57.145 Yeah. 02:46:57.145 --> 02:47:02.754 Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth and they were given authority, like the authority of scorpions. 02:47:04.138 --> 02:47:05.021 So Christ finally? 02:47:05.021 --> 02:47:06.915 So look, this is what happens in the first century. 02:47:06.915 --> 02:47:19.745 So this is Like John's writing this based on what just happened, like he's writing it about the current time and he's writing about the end of time. 02:47:19.745 --> 02:47:21.154 Right, so in the past, past, current and future all at once, correct? 02:47:21.154 --> 02:47:23.837 So when christ finally appeared, the jewish sanhedrin turned the people of jerusalem against him. 02:47:23.837 --> 02:47:26.301 They are the stars that fell from heaven and poisoned the waters. 02:47:26.381 --> 02:47:29.940 The high priest then led the assault on the messiah and encouraged the false prophets. 02:47:29.940 --> 02:47:36.320 The way that, the way that best interpret this, is that the high priest is the fallen star who opened the bottomless pit. 02:47:36.320 --> 02:47:40.038 The vision notes a period of an exceptional gravity. 02:47:40.038 --> 02:47:45.402 In the church, a priest or bishop who teaches heresy can be compared to the star who falls from heaven. 02:47:45.402 --> 02:47:52.904 But in this case, the

star refers to a particular person whose revolt from the church shall lead directly to the reign of antichrist. 02:47:52.904 --> 02:48:02.870 Look, we're talking about a very powerful church figure here who promotes heresy and releases the key to the bottomless pit. 02:48:02.870 --> 02:48:10.833 The bottomless pit releases these demons and the smoke of satan, and all these events start to happen now. 02:48:10.833 --> 02:48:17.224 You don't think we could possibly be enduring this right now it's definitely related to the catacomb right. 02:48:17.244 --> 02:48:23.577 The catacomb is what's holding back the more or less the end time. 02:48:24.069 --> 02:48:25.878 The restrainer is holding back the end time. 02:48:25.878 --> 02:48:26.814 Now, what is the restrainer? 02:48:26.814 --> 02:48:28.933 I've heard people say it's the Pope, right? 02:48:28.933 --> 02:48:31.058 We heard Dr Mazza say that. 02:48:31.058 --> 02:48:34.953 What if it's even? 02:48:35.831 --> 02:48:37.496 Dr Marshall seems to believe that as well too. 02:48:38.058 --> 02:48:39.915 It could be the Pope, it could be the Holy Spirit. 02:48:39.915 --> 02:48:45.119 Maybe God holds back his Holy Spirit, or maybe it's infallibility or something who knows? 02:48:45.119 --> 02:48:47.619 We don't know and we won't know until it's fulfilled. 02:48:47.619 --> 02:48:50.998 And the thing is we can't go and make assumptions about what it is. 02:48:51.909 --> 02:48:59.478 Kennedy, don't ever shave For the love of us, for the love of everyone don't ever shave. 02:48:59.498 --> 02:49:01.907 So yeah, lauren's saying this is deep stuff, it absolutely. 02:49:01.907 --> 02:49:12.013 I'm glad you stuck around, lauren, because I hope I didn't offend you before, because I look, I think everybody is reasonable to have doubts about the current hierarchy, right like I don't think you're crazy for thinking that at all. 02:49:12.013 --> 02:49:27.456 I think what we have to do is be very hesitant to encourage people to go that path, because you're talking about encouraging people to leave the church, and that's something that all of us should have humility about and say who the hell am I to give somebody that advice? 02:49:27.456 --> 02:49:36.985 I just know I'm staying with the people of God Because when you look to the first century, when Christ first came, sanhedrin was corrupt. 02:49:36.985 --> 02:49:41.757 The high priest was the one who released the key to the bottomless pit. 02:49:41.757 --> 02:49:43.316 They were still the people of God. 02:49:44.733 --> 02:49:46.299 Well, Judas betrays Christ. 02:49:47.730 --> 02:49:55.056 Right, but they were still the people of God and Jesus still goes and preaches to them, and when Jesus comes back, it will still be us. 02:49:55.056 --> 02:49:57.439 There's nowhere else for us to go. 02:49:57.439 --> 02:49:58.644 That's all I'm saying. 02:49:58.644 --> 02:49:59.868 There's nowhere else to go. 02:49:59.868 --> 02:50:00.852 You stay in the church. 02:50:00.852 --> 02:50:02.518 You stay in this body. 02:50:02.518 --> 02:50:04.925 We still have the eucharist. 02:50:04.925 --> 02:50:06.170 We are a eucharistic communion. 02:50:06.170 --> 02:50:10.720 Don't worry about what's going on in rome, don't even think about it like seriously. 02:50:10.720 --> 02:50:16.682 You know what's going on, accept it and just know that god has control of everything there's going to be so many popes before now? 02:50:16.701 --> 02:50:17.543 Yeah, absolutely. 02:50:18.111 --> 02:50:24.403 I would say, john, here might not even be talking about a specific pope or bishop. 02:50:25.070 --> 02:50:26.094 It may not be a pope or a bishop. 02:50:27.772 --> 02:50:29.170 And he might not even be a specific one. 02:50:29.170 --> 02:50:40.398 It could just be saying that the hierarchy in general ends up failing in their duties, even over a time period, right 100. 02:50:40.500 --> 02:50:41.461 Stay in the ark. 02:50:41.461 --> 02:50:43.406 We are the people of god. 02:50:43.406 --> 02:50:47.997 Guys, you can't go anywhere else, you don't leave, like don't go anywhere, stay here, don't. 02:50:47.997 --> 02:50:51.513 Don't go, breaking off to some group that claims they are the true church. 02:50:51.513 --> 02:50:51.995 That's all I'm saying. 02:50:51.995 --> 02:50:55.183 Like every group that claims they are the true church, that's all I'm saying, especially if they don't have the sacraments. 02:50:56.510 --> 02:50:59.577 But any group that claims they're the remnant goes off the rails. 02:50:59.577 --> 02:51:02.412 I mean to use our phrase, off the rails. 02:51:02.412 --> 02:51:03.436 They always go off the rails. 02:51:03.436 --> 02:51:04.172 You stay in the church. 02:51:04.172 --> 02:51:06.138 I go to a diocesan Latin Mass. 02:51:06.138 --> 02:51:08.823 I don't even go to a chapel. 02:51:08.823 --> 02:51:10.912 I'm not even saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I don't like. 02:51:10.912 --> 02:51:12.694 I am a diocesan latin mass guy. 02:51:12.694 --> 02:51:15.819 I'll still attend the novus ordo on occasion. 02:51:15.819 --> 02:51:19.344 You know I try to find the best one I can, but it's like, don't you? 02:51:20.813 --> 02:51:22.334 you want to hear a funny novus ordo story? 02:51:22.334 --> 02:51:25.240 Yeah, so so two of them. 02:51:25.240 --> 02:51:44.559 So this sunday we are our local novus ordo is at like 8 am and we got up like 7, 15, and I had a bad back being super pregnant, like we barely got ourselves and the kids ready to even go and like we didn't get a chance to dress the kids up. 02:51:44.559 --> 02:51:54.299 I didn't even get a chance to comb Maddie's hair, but we made it there and it's the one weekend they asked Maddie to walk down the, down the aisle, which aisle? 02:51:54.340 --> 02:51:57.775 was with with flowers to present to mary for me crowding. 02:51:57.775 --> 02:52:02.132 He's up there, he's got he's messy hair, he's got his sneakers on that light up. 02:52:02.132 --> 02:52:07.136 So he's walking down the

aisle with his light up sneakers and I'm like why this weekend of? 02:52:07.136 --> 02:52:09.021 All weekends, but here funny. 02:52:10.524 --> 02:52:14.816 You would have never done that at a traditional mass like that. 02:52:14.816 --> 02:52:18.274 It's just, it's almost like when you go to the Novus Ordo you feel a little more comfortable. 02:52:18.274 --> 02:52:20.316 You'll be like all right, whatever I'm wearing this. 02:52:20.336 --> 02:52:20.818 Well, here's the thing. 02:52:20.818 --> 02:52:23.806 Maddie wasn't out of place with any of the other kids there. 02:52:24.006 --> 02:52:24.549 No, not at all. 02:52:25.552 --> 02:52:39.503 But the funny part of what I was really mentioning is we get to the part where you say the creed right, and of course there's always that competition between a couple of people at the Novus Ordo for who can say things the loudest. 02:52:39.503 --> 02:52:59.117 Well, the person who won that competition for the creed instead about halfway through switched to the Confidior and the whole congregation being just sheep following along because no one knows anything at most Novus Ordos just followed along in the confidier and Father had to stop everyone and start all over. 02:52:59.911 --> 02:53:00.272 Really. 02:53:00.272 --> 02:53:16.370 Yeah, my worst Novus Ordo story was I was at a mass and the priest changed the words of the creed from for us men in our salvation to us men and us women in our salvation. 02:53:16.370 --> 02:53:20.121 He changed, um, he changed a few things. 02:53:20.121 --> 02:53:24.496 Then he made us go back to the old responses and say and also with you during the hour, father. 02:53:24.496 --> 02:53:29.373 He came down off the altar, off the out of the sanctuary and started holding hands with people in the pews. 02:53:29.373 --> 02:53:31.978 Then instead then he goes. 02:53:31.978 --> 02:53:34.736 Listen, he goes to read the gospel and the gospel is john one. 02:53:34.736 --> 02:53:35.746 That week in the beginning was the word and the word was what. 02:53:35.746 --> 02:53:38.890 He goes to read the gospel, and the gospel is John 1, that week In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with he goes. 02:53:38.890 --> 02:53:41.019 I'm not that crazy about this gospel. 02:53:41.019 --> 02:53:43.040 I'm going to pick a different one and pick the different. 02:53:43.040 --> 02:53:43.603 I walked out. 02:53:44.451 --> 02:53:50.884 He doesn't like the gospel that was literally said at every mass for over a thousand years. 02:53:53.691 --> 02:53:55.057 They're not even in communion with each other. 02:53:56.976 --> 02:53:59.737 I was thinking to myself I'm not in communion with someone like that. 02:53:59.737 --> 02:54:00.934 This wasn't a priest. 02:54:01.075 --> 02:54:01.939 He was an activist. 02:54:01.939 --> 02:54:04.076 I got up and I walked out. 02:54:04.076 --> 02:54:07.174 It was the worst experience I ever had in a mass. 02:54:07.174 --> 02:54:08.680 I had to get up and I walked out. 02:54:08.680 --> 02:54:12.099 I was going to stay to the end and really confront him afterward. 02:54:12.099 --> 02:54:13.879 I said you know what, Get out of here. 02:54:13.879 --> 02:54:15.052 I'm going to stay to the end and really confront him afterward. 02:54:15.052 --> 02:54:16.566 And I said you know what you should get out of here, because I'm going to lose my cool. 02:54:16.566 --> 02:54:18.170 I'm going to say something awful to him. 02:54:18.331 --> 02:54:22.396 It becomes a near occasion of sin for you, absolutely, and he was a visiting priest. 02:54:22.489 --> 02:54:25.094 He wasn't the normal priest there and it wasn't worth starting it. 02:54:25.094 --> 02:54:29.279 So I just got up, took my family and I left and I did a spiritual communion at home that week. 02:54:29.279 --> 02:54:34.183 Yeah, but guys did you enjoy this like, was this a good episode? 02:54:34.183 --> 02:54:34.583 I don't know. 02:54:34.583 --> 02:54:37.605 I mean, I I found that like when I learned all that? 02:54:37.626 --> 02:54:52.772 that poll, that was really the backdrop to all that, and this is also some of the stuff we've been laying out on the show with marriage and how you know how important marriage is and it's so deeply connected to the divine image of us participating in divinity. 02:54:52.772 --> 02:54:56.822 Um, do you guys take a 6th century BC or a Maccabean era dating for Daniel? 02:54:57.950 --> 02:55:03.115 I think the Maccabean the reason why some people would say that it's 490 years before Christ. 02:55:03.197 --> 02:55:03.779 That's when he is. 02:55:06.631 --> 02:55:14.594 I would say people think it's a Maccabean era because, for instance, like the Septuagint does get, the Septuagint does get. 02:55:14.594 --> 02:55:33.292 You know, the Septuagint manuscripts, you know, like you say, come from Aramaic, so that the oldest sources we have for that may be from the era of the Maccabees, but tradition holds that of course the original manuscripts obviously are much older so. 02:55:33.834 --> 02:55:35.260 So, sean, I want to. 02:55:35.260 --> 02:55:43.318 I have to figure out how I can do it, because I tried to give it to Rob and I had to guide him through the site. 02:55:43.318 --> 02:55:45.618 It's really hard to find on the website. 02:55:45.729 --> 02:55:48.860 And even if it's behind a paywall, all you have to log in is you. 02:55:49.209 --> 02:55:50.915 Yeah, because I subscribe to it. 02:55:50.915 --> 02:55:53.181 But whatever, I think you could do it for free. 02:55:53.181 --> 02:55:55.977 I think you could just create an account and get in. 02:55:56.157 --> 02:55:57.502 Oh really, it's behind a paywall even. 02:55:57.870 --> 02:56:00.599 Yeah, it's just hard to get to once you're on the site. 02:56:00.599 --> 02:56:13.858 But the Scott Hahn version he goes into so much more detail about, like, how many times mystery is said in Daniel and how many times mystery is said in Ephesians and he breaks down a lot of things. 02:56:13.858 -->

02:56:18.843 And he, he breaks down a lot of things that he does this 10 minute preaching session. 02:56:18.843 --> 02:56:19.608 That is like like he goes into it. 02:56:19.608 --> 02:56:26.893 He's like I want you to soak in the word because God wants to use you more than you want to know that Like he put this guy on those at a light. 02:56:26.893 --> 02:56:27.594 Somebody's hard. 02:56:27.594 --> 02:56:35.745 It's like we need, we need people that can actually preach in the catholic church. 02:56:35.745 --> 02:56:46.380 Man, like we don't have any good preachers and we really do need people that can preach and and teach people the word of god in an interesting way that they are excited to learn it and it's really difficult. 02:56:46.380 --> 02:56:48.234 So it's like how do you, you know? 02:56:48.915 --> 02:56:53.524 I mean you know what we could do for another episode, because you wouldn't let me listen to scott haunt's talk. 02:56:53.524 --> 02:56:54.879 I could listen to it now and we could do for another episode, because you wouldn't let me listen to scott hans talk. 02:56:54.879 --> 02:56:59.709 I could listen to it now and we could do an episode where I could critique your version of it you do that. 02:57:00.310 --> 02:57:01.213 You know what else we could do? 02:57:01.213 --> 02:57:02.718 Um, we could do. 02:57:02.718 --> 02:57:05.123 Uh, the hour in john's gospel. 02:57:05.123 --> 02:57:10.137 So there's several times in john's gospel where jesus mentions the hour, right. 02:57:10.137 --> 02:57:15.757 So the first time is at the wedding at keno, when, when mary says to jesus they have no wine, he says my hour, what? 02:57:15.757 --> 02:57:16.819 What have you to do with me, woman? 02:57:16.819 --> 02:57:18.061 My hour has not yet come. 02:57:18.061 --> 02:57:24.191 He says it to the woman at the well and he says the hour is coming when you will neither worship on this mountain or that mountain. 02:57:24.191 --> 02:57:33.459 Then he says he says it like five times I think I know the other time is when, uh, joe, I said it on father maudsley's episode uh, andrew and Philip come to him. 02:57:33.459 --> 02:57:36.957 They say the Greek wants to speak to you and he says my hour has come. 02:57:37.309 --> 02:57:42.978 A grain of wheat cannot produce fruit unless it dies, and then it can produce fruit. 02:57:42.978 --> 02:57:46.299 It's like what fruit does a grain of wheat produce? 02:57:46.299 --> 02:57:47.570 Bread? 02:57:47.570 --> 02:57:54.075 Right At the wedding at Cana, he says my hour has not yet come, woman, what have you to do with me? 02:57:54.075 --> 02:57:56.217 So when his hour does come, he's going to produce wine. 02:57:56.217 --> 02:58:00.781 It's like, throughout the entire Gospel of John you see Jesus setting up the mass. 02:58:00.781 --> 02:58:06.766 So there'll be wine because he says you know, my hour has not yet come, but when my hour does come you'll have wine. 02:58:06.766 --> 02:58:14.243 Then he says to the woman the

hour is coming when you will worship the Father in spirit and truth. 02:58:14.243 --> 02:58:17.015 So there'll be an hour where we have bread, we have wine, where we worship in spirit and truth. 02:58:17.015 --> 02:58:19.218 The people hear the voice of the Son of God. 02:58:19.218 --> 02:58:24.920 You know, we could go through that and really show people something in the Gospel of John that would get bread berries. 02:58:25.629 --> 02:58:34.034 So are you saying Pope Pius X's 25-minute low masses aren't valid because they're not an hour long? 02:58:39.690 --> 02:58:41.735 So still struggling to have the church is the filament of all this stuff. 02:58:41.735 --> 02:58:51.888 When the church is such a mess, well, the current stage of the church is a mess, right, but if you take the long view of the church, you see, you see that they go through periods of messiness, but it always does look. 02:58:51.888 --> 02:58:54.679 The reason it fulfills it is because you have the sacraments. 02:58:54.679 --> 02:59:02.716 So Jesus says to the apostles he says oh, are you amazed by these things? 02:59:02.716 --> 02:59:05.909 Greater works than these you will do when I am gone, that when the paraclete comes, you will do greater works than I did. 02:59:05.909 --> 02:59:07.813 What are those greater works? 02:59:07.813 --> 02:59:08.593 The sacraments. 02:59:08.593 --> 02:59:11.557 It's not just miracles, it's not just healing people, it's the sacraments. 02:59:11.557 --> 02:59:14.379 He's literally going to change the face of the earth. 02:59:14.379 --> 02:59:17.963 How could the church not fulfill these things Like? 02:59:17.963 --> 02:59:19.945 The church absolutely fulfills these things? 02:59:19.945 --> 02:59:39.570 We're just going through something right now that is so profound and it's so much part of the story that we've been told throughout the entire salvation history about King killing Abel. 02:59:39.570 --> 02:59:40.759 The first betrayal, joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers. 02:59:40.759 --> 02:59:42.476 The next betrayal you have, um uh, the jews worshiping the, the golden calf on moses. 02:59:42.476 --> 02:59:42.829 That's the next betrayal. 02:59:42.829 --> 02:59:46.541 You have these constant episodes of betrayal judas betrays jesus. 02:59:46.541 --> 02:59:50.191 You're going to have that play out in our story as well. 02:59:50.191 --> 02:59:51.194 So, yeah, there's an. 02:59:51.194 --> 02:59:54.432 There's an everlasting kingdom, but you know what else is in the story of Daniel? 02:59:54.913 --> 03:00:07.355 The story of Daniel is to show when Nebuchadnezzar gets too arrogant and makes himself God, what God shows him is no, no, no, you have power, because I give it to you. 03:00:07.355 --> 03:00:11.993 So when Nebuchadnezzar gets too arrogant, god makes him an animal, essentially, and he loses his mind and goes off into the wilderness. 03:00:11.993 --> 03:00:16.595 And God says until you humble yourself before me, you are going to be like an animal. 03:00:16.595 --> 03:00:21.333 And then Nebuchadnezzar humbles himself and God restores him to being back as a king. 03:00:21.333 --> 03:00:25.162 Then his son doesn't humble himself and he gets assassinated. 03:00:25.162 --> 03:00:34.379 What God's telling us in that story is anytime earthly leaders make themselves God, he will punish them and he will put them to rest, and that is going to happen in this one as well. 03:00:34.379 --> 03:00:37.853 You look like you were going to say something. 03:00:37.853 --> 03:00:38.456 That's why I shut up. 03:00:39.358 --> 03:00:48.014 I was just um when you, when you said that God told Nebuchadnezzar like uh, or Daniel told him that you only have power because God gave it to you. 03:00:48.014 --> 03:00:51.201 That that just um death penalty. 03:00:51.201 --> 03:00:57.951 Well, death penalty, well, pilot. 03:00:57.951 --> 03:00:58.674 It's just exactly what christ said. 03:00:58.694 --> 03:01:00.461 A pilot, right exactly you only have power because god gave it to you exactly so. 03:01:00.461 --> 03:01:09.715 And you'll see throughout even christian story, like julian the apostate tries to make himself god and bring these other gods back and he wants to be worshipped and god humbles him. 03:01:09.715 --> 03:01:20.601 And if you see julian's end, it's wild, like Julian ends in a mess, but it happens every time, even when you look at Germany, right, napoleon, napoleon. 03:01:20.601 --> 03:01:26.381 Anytime somebody tries to make themselves like God, evil doesn't win. 03:01:26.381 --> 03:01:27.895 It just doesn't win. 03:01:27.895 --> 03:01:31.020 Anytime somebody exalts themselves to be God, god humbles them. 03:01:31.020 --> 03:01:34.353 They are the emblem of God, just like the husband is the emblem of God humbles them. 03:01:34.353 --> 03:01:34.415 He is. 03:01:34.415 --> 03:01:36.001 They are the emblem of God on earth, just like the husband is the emblem of God in the family. 03:01:36.001 --> 03:01:41.434 Like all of these things, anytime you get a ruler that gets out of line, god does do something about it. 03:01:41.434 --> 03:01:43.237 You just have to have faith in that. 03:01:43.237 --> 03:01:54.559 The periods of the messiness during the church is always when the great saints are made Absolutely and like we should be trying to be saints Like we look. 03:01:54.860 --> 03:02:00.730 The greatest thing this podcast has done, especially the last like three months, those shows we've been doing the last three months. 03:02:00.730 --> 03:02:05.531 They've given me like a fire for my faith again Like I'm excited to learn things again. 03:02:05.531 --> 03:02:08.959 I'm like excited to talk to people about the faith I really have. 03:02:08.959 --> 03:02:13.275 Like I feel like I'm like back to the joy of my original salvation. 03:02:13.275 --> 03:02:16.063 Right now, man, it's really, really fun to talk about these things. 03:02:16.063 --> 03:02:19.219 It's really fun to share things with people

that they don't know yet. 03:02:19.219 --> 03:02:21.738 I'm really, really loving doing this. 03:02:21.738 --> 03:02:30.040 You ever think that the smoke of Satan isn't an infiltration of the church but an infiltration of worship, that the smoke is the incense offered up to false idols? 03:02:32.111 --> 03:02:34.318 I would say that makes a lot of sense. 03:02:34.318 --> 03:02:46.331 So Paul VI said that sometime in the 70s, right seven, mid 70s, um, we know the, we know like infiltration began much earlier. 03:02:46.331 --> 03:02:52.173 We know, you know, bella dodd said the communists put, or you know, put all the communists in the church in the 30s. 03:02:52.173 --> 03:02:54.921 We know, know there was Masonic influence before that. 03:02:54.921 --> 03:03:00.163 So infiltration of the church obviously happened sooner. 03:03:00.163 --> 03:03:09.959 So when Paul VI is talking about the smoke of Satan, it would make a lot of sense that he's talking about something much more recent than infiltration by Masons and communists. 03:03:09.959 --> 03:03:18.693 And the only thing that makes sense is the, the liturgical changes kevin, if we're actually piquing your interest, that's. 03:03:18.793 --> 03:03:21.501 That's like you have no idea how how much that means to us. 03:03:21.501 --> 03:03:26.772 Like, even if you're not a believer or whatever, if you're not there yet, it's like these things are exciting to talk about. 03:03:26.772 --> 03:03:31.070 It's like there's a way to convey the faith where it doesn't have to be this like. 03:03:31.070 --> 03:03:39.498 I think sometimes we get so mired up in the church stuff that you forget the like, the grand story, like you guys really like really have to remember. 03:03:39.498 --> 03:03:43.480 Like I've seen, look, five years ago, my mom had nine kids. 03:03:43.480 --> 03:03:46.500 Five years ago, none of them were going to church, not one of us. 03:03:46.500 --> 03:03:49.257 Six of us are back in mass right now. 03:03:49.257 --> 03:03:51.878 Do you know the miracles I'm seeing in my own family? 03:03:51.878 --> 03:04:00.367 Like you can't imagine? 03:04:00.367 --> 03:04:01.988 Do you know the miracles I'm seeing in my own family? 03:04:01.988 --> 03:04:03.550 No-transcript, don't worry. 03:04:03.550 --> 03:04:12.736 Like, if you really are honest about seeking the truth, like, really go back and listen to part one and part two of this because, like I like it really does make sense. 03:04:12.736 --> 03:04:13.697 All the things we're talking about. 03:04:13.697 --> 03:04:15.539 Man, it's not crazy. 03:04:16.020 --> 03:04:20.184 Like the things we're seeing in our culture are pretty freaking bananas right now, and it makes perfect sense. 03:04:24.010 --> 03:04:26.012 That was one thing I loved about the episode with Father Maudsley on Saturday. 03:04:26.012 --> 03:04:27.453 We mentioned it during the episode. 03:04:27.453 --> 03:04:34.002 I thought we were getting you know an intellectual argument for the TLM

which I would have loved. 03:04:34.002 --> 03:04:36.986 I mean, I love stuff like that, but I've heard it a million times. 03:04:36.986 --> 03:04:39.131 Right, you know, I've read books on it. 03:04:39.131 --> 03:04:46.200 But instead he walked us through the whole history of the world, how tradition is connected to us, and I mean I left. 03:04:46.200 --> 03:04:51.372 I left that episode more hopeful, um more hopeful than I've been in a long time. 03:04:51.372 --> 03:04:51.953 So that was. 03:04:52.114 --> 03:04:52.675 That was great. 03:04:53.256 --> 03:04:55.460 Yeah, Dude, he was amazing. 03:04:55.460 --> 03:05:02.063 Oh, so that's the other thing we have him coming back on. 03:05:02.063 --> 03:05:07.675 He sent me a message and he wants to talk about evolution. 03:05:07.695 --> 03:05:10.983 Kevin, this one, you might be really interested in this one coming up. 03:05:12.309 --> 03:05:15.778 Yeah, so he wants to talk about the potentiality of. 03:05:17.522 --> 03:05:19.555 Okay, so this is what he wrote he said yeah, what did he say? 03:05:21.340 --> 03:05:29.335 Okay, after you suggested we could have another live stream if something came up, I thought about a subject which I'm trying to make a video about, but it would be great help. 03:05:29.335 --> 03:05:35.013 Look, he's doing these videos by himself, right, and it's tricky to do these. 03:05:35.013 --> 03:05:51.441 I think when he came on with us, like we were feeding him good enough questions that he was able to elaborate ideas that I haven't heard him elaborate with other people, like I really think we had a really good rapport with him where, like he would say something and then you popped in with a bunch of questions, I popped in with a bunch of questions. 03:05:51.441 --> 03:05:57.924 It was a really, really good interview. 03:05:57.852 --> 03:05:59.237 If you guys haven't seen the Father Moseley interview, you have to go back and see that. 03:05:59.237 --> 03:06:02.881 I mean that I believe the teaching of perennial philosophy on metaphysics makes the theory of macro evolution absolutely impossible. 03:06:02.881 --> 03:06:12.020 Specifically, aristotle's teaching on actuality and potentiality means that no species can give rise to a higher one, and nor can the environment nor random mutations. 03:06:12.020 --> 03:06:13.483 I am 100% agree with that. 03:06:13.483 --> 03:06:29.799 Like this is what we're always saying, right, like we say, okay, you can have adaptation within a species, but to say that a species like if it's survival of the fittest, how is it that if natural selection is picking the best genes, how can it pick genes that aren't there right? 03:06:29.799 --> 03:06:33.198 So, like, how can an eye come about? 03:06:33.959 --> 03:06:47.523 if there's no I, basically, for change to happen, something has to have the potential for that change and for that change to happen, something actual has to actualize that potential. 03:06:47.523 --> 03:07:03.924 So if you have number one, if you don't have an I and you want an eye, you have to both have the potential for an eye and something with like it's something has to actualize that change, into into it. 03:07:03.963 --> 03:07:07.101 you can't nature can't select the gene that doesn't exist. 03:07:07.101 --> 03:07:09.229 It can't create a new gene out of nothing. 03:07:09.229 --> 03:07:11.981 Like something can't come from nothing, it doesn't make sense. 03:07:11.981 --> 03:07:15.254 It doesn't work that way, like natural selection should work the opposite way. 03:07:15.254 --> 03:07:23.981 Where things should be falling away, there should be, there should be atrophy, not entropy, and atrophy yeah yeah, like it doesn't work that way. 03:07:24.022 --> 03:07:28.021 So I really would love to get him on for that, because I see adaptation. 03:07:28.021 --> 03:07:29.425 So that's micro evolution. 03:07:29.425 --> 03:07:30.370 You see, within a species. 03:07:30.370 --> 03:07:30.911 You'll see. 03:07:30.911 --> 03:07:37.384 You know when, when they released released wild hogs in America, they eventually developed tusks, something like that. 03:07:37.489 --> 03:07:40.698 Skin color is micro-editation. 03:07:41.601 --> 03:07:44.278 Something like that, but you're not going to see species jumping. 03:07:44.278 --> 03:07:45.434 It just doesn't make sense. 03:07:45.434 --> 03:07:48.859 So what do you mean? 03:07:48.859 --> 03:07:52.436 The creation of new genes, and where are you getting that info from? 03:07:52.436 --> 03:07:53.656 I would need a source on that. 03:07:53.656 --> 03:07:54.290 Genes. 03:07:54.290 --> 03:07:56.617 And where are you getting that info for, like, I would need a source on that. 03:07:56.617 --> 03:08:01.969 Like, I just think that there's so many lies because so much depends on evolution. 03:08:01.969 --> 03:08:04.716 Like it's it's. 03:08:04.716 --> 03:08:06.279 It's the atheist creation what? 03:08:06.440 --> 03:08:07.621 what's creating the new gene? 03:08:07.621 --> 03:08:13.739 Like we know, we can use, like crisper, to create new genes, but both the potential and the actualization are there. 03:08:13.739 --> 03:08:16.545 We're talking about from nothing, right, I mean? 03:08:18.234 --> 03:08:26.262 yeah, yeah, talking about like something coming from, like we cannot create life from organic matter. 03:08:26.262 --> 03:08:29.361 So where does organic matter even come from? 03:08:29.361 --> 03:08:31.469 Like, how does that happen? 03:08:31.469 --> 03:08:33.435 Like, how does organic matter come? 03:08:33.435 --> 03:08:36.352 It doesn't just happen Like you can't. 03:08:36.352 --> 03:08:39.671 You can't just say, well, you create the right conditions, like, go, create the right conditions for something. 03:08:39.671 --> 03:08:41.415 It's not going to just magically happen. 03:08:41.415 --> 03:08:45.703 Like you need the first sparks of light of life. 03:08:45.703 --> 03:08:49.727 Um, mutations, yeah, but mutation, you can't. 03:08:49.727 -->

03:08:56.100 The original spark of life, even mutation, the original spark of life, even Like you can't. 03:08:56.100 --> 03:08:58.638 There has to be the first bacteria. 03:08:58.638 --> 03:08:59.411 Where does that come from? 03:08:59.411 --> 03:09:00.793 That can't mutate from nothing. 03:09:00.793 --> 03:09:07.772 So, alright, we'll get into that when Father comes on. 03:09:07.813 --> 03:09:09.198 We're coming to the end of this episode. 03:09:09.198 --> 03:09:11.492 Guys, if you like these episodes, please share them with people. 03:09:11.492 --> 03:09:13.238 I think we're doing something unique on our channel. 03:09:13.238 --> 03:09:21.718 I don't think anybody else, I think everybody else is focused on the drama in the church and we're really trying to focus on something different, and it is not easy to come up with original episodes. 03:09:21.718 --> 03:09:24.818 Thursday night we're going to do off the rails. 03:09:24.818 --> 03:09:37.314 I'm going to have a bunch of goofy videos and then we're going to tackle the Candace Owens debate, but from a different angle than anybody else's. 03:09:37.334 --> 03:09:45.529 We're going to tackle a Protestant reviewing the Catholic debate, so we're going to review a review of the debate because it's going to be reviewception. 03:09:45.629 --> 03:09:47.978 Yes, a Protestant, ruslan. 03:09:47.978 --> 03:09:49.435 I think his name is Ruslan. 03:09:49.435 --> 03:09:50.875 I actually do enjoy his channel. 03:09:50.875 --> 03:09:51.436 I think he's great. 03:09:51.436 --> 03:09:57.198 He accused Candace of doing a straw man argument and then he himself gave a straw man argument. 03:09:57.198 --> 03:10:04.336 So we're actually going to name the video exactly what he named his video about Candace, but put his name in there and we're going to hope he catches his attention. 03:10:06.394 --> 03:10:08.799 We never peddle in clickbait here, never. 03:10:09.781 --> 03:10:10.083 No, no, no. 03:10:10.083 --> 03:10:11.194 This is going to be major clickbait. 03:10:11.194 --> 03:10:16.944 We're going to hope he sees it, we're going to hope somebody shows it to him, and then we're going to hope he wants to have a conversation with us. 03:10:17.470 --> 03:10:20.829 I was going to say I haven't watched the original and I'm probably not going to Don't watch the original. 03:10:21.591 --> 03:10:23.932 I'm going to bring the clips that you need to see, don't worry. 03:10:23.932 --> 03:10:30.858 I love how you tell every time you basically tell me oh, I'm going to bring cliffs, let's go in there. 03:10:30.858 --> 03:10:33.342 Yeah, but you're good enough that you could just see it on the spot. 03:10:33.342 --> 03:10:37.218 You don't need to prepare, we can go read a theology book to talk about. 03:10:37.329 --> 03:10:43.032 I have learned, though, to scan through all the videos you sent and make sure no one dies in them Nobody dies and nobody's cursing. 03:10:46.399 --> 03:10:47.722 All right, man, this is a fun one. 03:10:47.722 --> 03:10:50.974 Is Animal Fights in the Bible still on the table? 03:10:52.175 --> 03:10:53.778 Yes, it definitely is. 03:10:54.138 --> 03:10:57.763 Yeah, we'll do the Elijah story coming up. 03:10:57.863 --> 03:11:01.338 I really do hope we have a kid by then. 03:11:02.370 --> 03:11:05.325 Wait also, guys, for anybody that is not yet. 03:11:05.325 --> 03:11:08.371 We're supposed to do this at the beginning of the episode with the worst grifters on the planet. 03:11:08.371 --> 03:11:10.318 Rob, you know what you should do Create a banner. 03:11:10.318 --> 03:11:13.291 Create a banner that says join our locals. 03:11:13.291 --> 03:11:14.393 Create a banner that says our locals. 03:11:14.393 --> 03:11:16.514 Create a banner that says hit like, hit, subscribe. 03:11:16.514 --> 03:11:27.543 Make banners for all that stuff so that we don't because I don't want to interrupt the show, to do that, like when I watch my favorite show and they're like and they're just peddling their nonsense Just make a banner. 03:11:27.543 --> 03:11:30.627 If people like us, they'll come and join us on there. 03:11:30.627 --> 03:11:35.969 It's like super chats are always available, guys. 03:11:36.549 --> 03:11:37.618 You guys can always super chat us if you want to. 03:11:37.618 --> 03:11:39.129 We do have those live, I guess. 03:11:40.271 --> 03:11:41.958 Yeah, any live shows, you guys can super chat. 03:11:41.958 --> 03:11:44.713 So if anybody wants to just do a one-time thing, they can do their super chat. 03:11:44.713 --> 03:11:48.379 Plus we have the tip jar, or you can go to Locals and be a monthly page. 03:11:49.129 --> 03:12:04.760 I would say if it's not related to something you want to make sure we see or put on screen, don't use Super Chat just to donate to us, because YouTube takes like 30%, so there's other ways. 03:12:04.760 --> 03:12:08.959 But if you want to make sure something gets put on screen, then feel free. 03:12:08.959 --> 03:12:13.899 I guess I feel like we're pretty good about putting stuff on screen. 03:12:14.030 --> 03:12:15.475 Locals is boring so far. 03:12:15.475 --> 03:12:18.877 Margo, Thanks for the plug, but we're going to do something very soon. 03:12:18.877 --> 03:12:23.435 I think we're going to do a private stream with you guys and we're going to start seeing who wants to come on. 03:12:23.435 --> 03:12:25.358 I know Margo would love to come on with us again. 03:12:25.358 --> 03:12:29.112 We could talk Chastity, because she wanted to get to that last time she was on. 03:12:29.112 --> 03:12:32.316 So we could do an episode with Margo discussing Chastity. 03:12:32.316 --> 03:12:37.501 But that'll just be for the locals group, and then Christian is going to come on. 03:12:37.501 --> 03:12:43.005 So Christian I had talked to on the phone earlier today and he has some ideas for the show. 03:12:43.005 --> 03:12:44.566 Plus, he has an interesting story. 03:12:44.566 --> 03:12:53.734 So we're going to probably get Christian on and anybody else that wants to come on with us. 03:12:53.734 --> 03:12:56.925 If you're one of our local supporters and you want to come on the show, if you have a good idea for a show, or if you want to sit on and off the rails. 03:12:56.925 --> 03:12:58.331 I think that's how we're going to handle it, yeah the. 03:12:58.431 --> 03:13:09.298 The point of the locals it isn't so much to to make extra content, because we don't want any content to really be behind a paywall. 03:13:09.298 --> 03:13:14.213 The the point of the locals is more just to to form a community, get to know everyone so. 03:13:14.213 --> 03:13:25.500 So it would be cool to get other people on video and not even so much have necessarily talk about anything specific, just get to know each other as a group, just to hang out. 03:13:26.671 --> 03:13:34.018 We could even do a specific Telegram chat just for local supporters or something, so we could do a video chat with everyone. 03:13:34.018 --> 03:13:35.064 I don't know how locals works yet. 03:13:35.064 --> 03:13:35.533 I don't know how Locals works yet. 03:13:35.533 --> 03:13:41.737 I haven't really played around with it much, but I would like to be able to just hang with our Locals community. 03:13:41.737 --> 03:13:44.235 Do something interesting. 03:13:44.235 --> 03:13:47.850 Man, I'm getting tired. 03:13:47.850 --> 03:13:49.798 All right, let's wrap this up because I'm exhausted. 03:13:52.351 --> 03:13:54.210 Okay, anything else no. 03:13:54.251 --> 03:13:55.334 Thursday off the rails If Rob's. 03:13:55.334 --> 03:13:56.617 If rob's here, great. 03:13:56.617 --> 03:13:58.450 If not, we'll have, uh, jason. 03:13:58.450 --> 03:14:09.159 If jason says that we can't do off the rails because jason's not going to be my tech guy and I'm not going to be able to play videos and stuff that would be hilarious, actually, though just play the audio from my phone, like we do. 03:14:09.219 --> 03:14:11.327 Old school no, no, just watching youtube. 03:14:11.327 --> 03:14:12.310 Try to struggle with it. 03:14:12.310 --> 03:14:13.914 I can't. 03:14:13.914 --> 03:14:17.582 I personally would get a large kick out of that I can't. 03:14:18.209 --> 03:14:19.976 I'll be holding my phone up to the camera like that. 03:14:19.976 --> 03:14:23.326 I'm like can you hear me, it'll be terrible. 03:14:24.731 --> 03:14:28.161 It'll be funny because they'll see, but then they won't be able to hear because the mic's way back here. 03:14:28.161 --> 03:14:30.754 It'll be classic. 03:14:30.754 --> 03:14:32.076 Classic Anthony. 03:14:32.076 --> 03:14:35.003 All right take us out, brother. 03:14:35.003 --> 03:14:42.692 Okay, thank you.