บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Christ Is King, Never Vivek: The Speech That Aged Perfectly

episodes, man. 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:07.040 It was just like we had UN TLM Ryan on that episode, and we went over all the stuff. 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.800 Um uh what the hell is who is that? 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:12.000 Jeremy Boring. 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:12.720 Jeremy Boring. 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:16.480 We did all we could we we we covered Jeremy Boring's uh podcast that night. 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.480 But um, this is this is uh something I wanted to talk to you about. 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:22.720 I wanted you to come on so that we could dox you. 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:33.360 But the main clip that's been going around is something that popped up from two years ago, where Rob, can you get that ready so that right when I'm finished my uh I got it here? 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:34.639 It's in the telegram. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.360 So uh about two years ago, you were at an event. 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:44.000 It was actually a Charlie Kirk event, and you were going there, and I'm assuming you were going there as like a Gruper infiltrator. 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:45.759 Is that was that the context of it? 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:54.879 I was going there to ask a probing question, yes, and as someone that was you know trying to disrupt things civilly and ask that probing question. 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.439 And it was actually at my alma mater, so I graduated from the Ohio State University. 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:06.720 Charlie Kirk and Vivek Ramaswamy are going to be there, and so I had to go with some friends and ask those questions. 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:10.480 Now, Charlie Kirk never ended up coming to the event, right? 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:11.680 Correct. 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.199 So I had a question prepared for him on immigration. 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:25.439 Previously, people will recall that infamously he said that if you are a foreign student and you graduate from an American university, we need to staple a green card to everyone's diploma. 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.600 And so I wanted to press him on that. 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:31.040 And just think about how much the conversation has shifted since then. 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:36.560 But unfortunately, Charlie was giving a platform to Vivek Ramaswamy, who was touring with him. 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:38.959 And this was in 2024. 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:43.680 So I think it might have been maybe a little bit before his presidential or somewhere around there. 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:47.040 But yes, Vivek came to the event just alone and was him. 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.519 He gave a lecture and then he took QA. 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:55.360 The amazing part about this is you were going to ask him a question on immigration. 00:06:55.439 --> 00:07:00.000 And I just think about how much the conversation has shifted on that topic alone. 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:09.759 Where a couple of years ago, even the most die-hard Republicans and conservatives like Charlie Kirk were saying we're against illegal immigration, not legal migration. 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:11.519 We're for legal migration. 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.399 We're gonna staple a green card to every diploma. 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:24.879 Like that was the thing that was being said, and it really was Nick Fuentes who got people to change the conversation. 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:28.480 Like it was him, he made the conversation change. 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:36.160 We were just talking about it in the green room, where a few years ago, Rob and I were walking on eggshells talking about the Jewish question. 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:40.079 Rob and I couldn't air our first Father Maudsley interview. 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.240 Well, the first one went up, but we didn't discuss that. 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.480 The second one we had to put behind a paywall because we couldn't talk about these topics. 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:58.639 And then seeing Nick go on podcasts discussing this stuff and seeing that they never struck the videos and never took those videos down kind of gave us the green light to say, okay, let's start pushing the envelope further. 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:00.480 We end up having conversations with Dr. 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:00.800 E. 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:08.720 Michael Jones, and we've had, you know, it's kind of culminated in how much our whole channel has shifted over the past year. 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:16.000 But you guys were some of the first ones to go to these events and start pressing conservatives and Republicans on this stuff. 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:23.360 Because we used to see this all the time with Democrats coming and trying to infiltrate Republican events or Republicans going to infiltrate Democratic events. 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:29.360 And now all of a sudden we have conservatives going to conservative events and pressing our own party on some of this stuff. 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:40.000 So we're going to play the clip, and it's kind of an amazing moment in history because Alex asks Vivek something and the crowd boos him. 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.480 And you think about how different that reaction would be two years later. 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:48.960 So let's throw the clip up, let's play that, and then we'll jump to Alex and see. 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:54.399 Because I can't, first of all, before we even get into this, I can't believe you didn't, like your voice didn't shake. 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.759 You got this whole thing out because you had to be so nervous. 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.240 Because I've done public public speaking and it is very difficult to do. 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:05.919 And you jumped up in front of a crowd of a couple thousand people and did this. 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:07.279 Well, thank you. 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:17.840 And I I was expecting actually a much warmer audience, and I hope by making that appeal, like that broad quote unquote Christian appeal to everyone, that they would

be more on my side. 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.159 But a lot of the people were not happy with the question and the tenor of it. 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:24.559 And like you said, so much has changed. 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:34.639 Now this is something that is much more normalized, and I think this is something that uh even many conservatives would be willing to say, but at the time it was considered controversial, shocking. 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:41.360 And uh, so yeah, this is this is kind of the setup here, and this is one of the very first questions you took in the QA. 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:49.360 Throughout the course of the lecture, you talked an awful lot about God and faith. 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:54.799 And there were some men that come up here and they ask you about your Hindu religion. 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:02.559 But my suspicion is if they didn't mention that, you would have omitted who that God was throughout the course of the entire lecture. 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:10.000 And most of the people in this room here would leave thinking you were talking about the only true God, Jesus Christ. 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:20.000 And God has a name, and Hinduism is a wicked pagan religion, and it's completely incompatible with America. 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:36.559 Everyone, most everyone in this entire room is a Christian, they believe in Jesus Christ, and you've attempted to create this parallel, however, let's speak, please, however, tenuously between Christian principles, Christian moral principles, and these Hindu values. 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:45.440 And you look in sacred scripture, a little bit of filibustering here, all the gods of the Gentiles are devils, and there's only one name under heaven that can give you salvation. 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:50.879 So, my my big question is, and and you've talked about being forthright and transparent. 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:59.679 My suspicion is that you would have omitted who that god was when you were speaking here tonight had you not explicitly been asked about Hinduism. 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:05.200 So, my challenge, I guess, to you going forward to be would be to say who this god is. 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:10.879 Is it Wahaguru, the one that was blasphemously prayed to at the RNC? 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:15.360 Is it one of these other Hindu deities, or is it our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.000 So that's my question and challenge to you going forward. 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.159 It's okay, I've had a lot harder challenges than this one, so so don't pat yourself on the back too hard. 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:35.840 Before we get to Vivek's response, like the what's kind of crazy is he Vivek posted this on his Twitter account as an own, like as if he owned you here, right? 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:56.879 And you could see the crowd is on like they're they're like not sure what to do with what he just said because they do think they're Christian, but they're like, uh I don't like people were so uncomfortable with this even just two years ago, and just it's just amazing to me how this how this transpired. 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:12.480 So we're gonna play Vivek's response, but then the the craziest thing is what happens immediately after he finishes responding to you and who he takes a question from next, which basically solidifies every single thing you're criticizing him for here. 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.480 So we'll we'll we'll jump to Vivek real quick and we'll hear his response. 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:17.840 That one. 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.399 Uh I I don't want anyone to go on home with a backsprain for that. 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.879 So so let me let me just let me just level with you, man. 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:25.919 You run for U.S. 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:32.480 president at the age of 37 as somebody who's been in business who's actually the easiest thing to call myself some Vic Ramsey and pretend to be a Christian. 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:37.279 You got other people on that debate stage last time who shortened their names and call themselves to be a Christian, too. 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:38.960 I'm gonna man up and tell you who I am. 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.120 And believe me, your suspicion is off base. 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.919 Listen to any number of the campaign speeches I gave over thousands of them over the course of the last year. 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:51.919 So we can take the disingenuous accusation off the table, but level with what I do think is an interesting coming with that. 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.519 You did not volunteer that information, it had to be pried out. 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.320 It was it you never volunteered that information. 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.480 So so mention God, that's true. 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:01.360 That's actually false. 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:02.720 He admitted that throughout the course of the time. 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:04.320 So let me know when you're done, and I can address your question. 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:19.600 Pause it real quick because it's interesting because I assumed he was Christian when he was going on that presidential tour and he was talking because he kept talking about God, and it he gave he was giving the impression he was Christian. 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:31.360 And this whole thing, what it really does is it it kind of shows you how everybody in this audience and the majority of Americans in general are just deists. 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:51.200 Like they are theists, they're not actually Christians, they don't actually understand that the I like the principle of Christ the king of your nation, and that your nation has to serve Christ as king, and all your laws and your principles should be and your moral principles should be founded upon Christian principles. 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:58.879 Like they just think some vague mention of God means, oh, you know, it to the average American, this guy is just as

Christian as they are. 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:02.399 So that's why this is such an interesting exchange here. 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.559 So you could you can finish it out real quick. 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.559 He, I mean, he gets into Jefferson and stuff. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:07.679 Oh yeah. 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.759 And and Alex throws it right back. 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:22.639 Wait, what's crazy is Alex Alex's response to him throwing Jefferson out is something that it is shocking two years ago until we start having the integralist conversation over these couple of past couple of years. 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:29.600 Yeah, he makes an appeal to the founding fathers, and they're untouchable, they're above criticism in the American paradigm. 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:34.080 And so I I came out very forthrightly and told him what I thought about Thomas Jefferson. 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:35.759 So this is a good part of the exchange. 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:43.519 About the last presidential campaign of last year, and you apparently have had your head stuck in the sand, where it need not be belong. 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:54.879 Now, the now, what I think we need more of in our American politic is less of questioning the motivations of what somebody is and get to the content of where there's an actual difference of opinion. 00:14:55.039 --> 00:15:04.799 So the question of whether or not somebody of a non-Christian faith can embody and lead the United States of America at any meaningful level is an open question. 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.919 Thomas Jefferson is on the other side of this question from you. 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:10.240 Thomas Jefferson was not a traditional Christian. 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.159 Do you know what the Jefferson Bible is? 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:13.679 Exactly. 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.799 Thomas Jefferson is a female. 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:27.360 He's a Freemason, he's an enemy of Christianity, which would have been like you touched the sacred cow for Americans right there. 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:43.519 And it's like he was trying to give, he was trying to appeal to me by saying the Jefferson Bible as if that's something that Christians would want to countenance, even though it's gutted of anything of the supernatural he took out our Lord's miracles. 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:50.080 So that is, and these unfortunately, these ignorant Christians in the crowd and many people are deceived by that that appeal. 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.159 Oh, well, Thomas Jefferson had a Bible and they don't actually know what it entails. 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.480 Alex, I'm so grateful to you, man. 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.200 Like, I don't I like I'm not kidding. 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:11.840 Um first off, I'm beyond impressed with how like calm you stayed through this, how quick you were with your responses, and how much my mind has changed on this issue because of people like you. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:13.440 Like, I'm not kidding. 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:21.759 Uh two, three years ago, like when Vivek was on his presidential run, I was like, this guy's saying some good stuff. 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.440 Like, that's actually where my mind was a couple of years ago. 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:30.879 And this is like the foundational moment where that starts to shift. 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:35.519 Like, this is the culture shift happening right before our eyes in this video. 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:48.639 Um, okay, so Rob, I actually want you to I want you to play what he who he speaks to after this, which um let me see is that a different clip? 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.200 It's a different clip, it's from Alex. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:52.480 Alex sent it to me. 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:59.679 It's uh is it well this it looks like a whole different video, the one where he's talking about. 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:04.880 Okay, so okay, so it's it's the first one I sent this morning after the DDF thing. 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:09.680 Um, anyone remember Vivek was defending the right for an adult to transgender identity? 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:11.599 Okay, I so let's play that one. 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.920 So this is the person who grabs the mic immediately after Alex, okay? 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.920 Now you have to you you can see this person behind Alex. 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:24.960 Yeah, so you you have to think about what Alex just asked him, right? 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:30.160 About which God is it that you that you are even talking about when you're in these conversations. 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:54.240 Jefferson was an enemy to Christianity because look at how the American mind works, in the especially with the way the trans conversation was happening in Republican circles, it was like the separation between children and adults, and it is the most unnatural demonic thing ever to tell anybody they can go with whatever identity they want. 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.200 But listen to how a vape responds to this question. 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:11.279 The suicide rate and the rate of depression even after gender conversion surgery remains almost as high as it did before surgery, and in some cases, even higher afterwards. 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:25.279 And so if we believe that we're addressing a mental deficit or a mental health deficit through a physical means, in many ways we're actually failing to serve the very people we purport to help. 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.200 However, you're over the age of 18. 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:49.680 And my view is as an adult, and I want to be crystal clear about this, you have the right to do, in my opinion, and I think our country should respect this too, you have the right to do what you wish with your body and how you identify without anybody else stopping you, as long as you're not hurting somebody else or taking something away from them in the process. 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.119 That I think is a fair bargain.

00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.480 Okay, so let's just typical libertarian BS. 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.480 It's it's he's trying to run as the governor in my state. 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:02.480 He is a usurper in every way, a complete alien. 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:19.119 And here he is trying to talk about how, well, if someone is over the age of 18, they are able to have a right to this as if it's not objectively wrong and vicious and something that should be criminalized and repressed by public authorities. 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:22.640 And so that this is the type of character we are working with. 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:36.160 And I have to say that Charlie Kirk is the one to fault for this because he is the one who allowed Vivek Ramaswamy to grow his profile and to lecture all of these ostensibly Christian conservative people. 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:39.920 Look at all of yeah, college students, very impressionable. 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:44.880 So Charlie Kirk is the one who really got Vivek Ramaswamy started on this whole college tour. 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:58.720 And unfortunately, his organization, they have a lot of problems with these kinds of people that are, you know, they're not Catholics, but they have atheists, sodomites, open sodomites, and it's just something that just cannot be countenanced. 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.079 You have to think about how insidious it is, even what he just said there. 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:16.480 He's like, as long as you're doing with your body something that doesn't affect anybody else, like, are we still playing that game as if somebody doing something like that to their body does not have an effect on the entire culture? 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.000 Like it absolutely does. 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:26.960 If you have a culture that accepts something like that, it it is not something that this person's doing in the privacy of their home and it has no has no relevance for everybody around them. 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:34.079 No, it becomes instantiated in the culture, it becomes something acceptable in schools, it becomes the norm. 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:39.200 And then the people who actually want to live a moral life become the aberration. 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:52.880 Like this is this is this is the problem with this stuff, and then pretending like, yeah, what you do in the privacy of your own home as an adult, or whatever's between two consenting adults, like the two consenting adults thing also leads to crap like the Cornell crisis. 00:20:53.119 --> 00:21:03.359 Like, if people are not waking up to this stuff at this point and seeing how gay marriage absolutely affects the common good, how transgenderism absolutely affects the common good. 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:10.160 And like Alex said, the more the the the governing authorities have an absolute duty to repress this stuff. 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:18.240 You have to understand, like America wasn't really founded on the common good, just founded on

the individual good. 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.720 Like that's that's the heart of liberalism compared to true conservatism. 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:31.200 So speaking that way to most so-called you know, Republicans is it's just doesn't work, unfortunately. 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:37.839 And it won't because they're still locked in that American revolutionary paradigm and the false philosophy. 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:47.039 So in Catholic philosophy, a right is defined as a moral power of acquiring something that is owed injustice and given by law. 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.279 And so obviously, vice can never be the object of a true right. 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:54.799 But Bavek is not starting with that as one of his principles. 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.759 And so you have vice, transgenderism, these kinds of sins that are now the object. 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:01.839 Of a right in his paradigm. 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:16.240 And I don't think the American founders as well understood that the rights always have to be specified by their objects, and they have to always be in line with objective truth and morality. 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:21.519 There can there can never be air, air doesn't have any rights, and evil doesn't have any rights too. 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.640 And so you have to deny that at the very beginning. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.279 And then we can actually have an intelligent conversation here. 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:33.119 But it's just this bad philosophy that he is completely imbibed, imbibed, and he champions the founding fathers. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:43.839 He's trying to intimidate you and dare you to say, well, I'm actually against Thomas Jefferson in this instance or against George Washington, because you have this almost mockery in the American order. 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:47.839 You no longer have Our Lady, you have the Statue of Liberty, this Masonic goddess. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:52.240 You no longer have the church fathers, the patristics, you have the founding fathers. 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:58.079 And so it's this whole new system that unfortunately a lot of American Catholics have been influenced by. 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:00.960 Well, this is this is something we talked about a lot on this show. 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:09.440 Like the idea of replacing Our Lady with the Statue of Liberty, the goddess of liberty, replacing the found the founding fathers for the for the church fathers. 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:17.519 It is the it is the the religion of it's American religion, like it's it's secular religion. 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:27.200 And um it's it's the left will push back on George Washington and Thomas Jefferson because they held slaves. 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:30.960 Why would we not push back on them because they were not Christian? 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:37.680 Like you you see for Americans, the founding fathers are the church fathers, right? 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:43.759 Like this is why this is such

an a like a hard statement for them to hear. 00:23:43.839 --> 00:24:07.440 Um dude, this conversation needs to be had further and wider on more shows, and people really need to because this goes to even the revolution in the church and why it's so disordered what's happening in the church, which even like fumbles down to that document they released today where the double speak of oh, the church needs to respect the tradition and then, but also we're gonna do some enculturation and we're gonna mix a whole bunch of new stuff in. 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.640 It's like this double speak that doesn't actually mean anything. 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.440 And um, it's I don't know, man. 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:26.880 This this whole exchange was just so freaking crazy to me that you were the one that had because I've seen this video a bunch of times, and it wasn't until recently that I realized it was you that were the one that did it. 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.759 I remember when this when this whole event happened. 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.960 Yeah, it's it's almost surreal to see it now. 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.480 And I did obviously promote it, so that is why it's out there. 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:39.680 But I I think it it can be an important example. 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:45.519 And I I was just trying to do the the right thing and to make a statement of sorts because I grew up here. 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:51.920 This is my state, I've always lived here, and I really do care about Ohio and our country more broadly. 00:24:52.079 --> 00:25:00.000 And just to see someone like this attempt to foist himself on our great state here, I very much resent that. 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:06.160 And people, and going back to what you said about the the founding fathers, too, you look at someone like Thomas Jefferson. 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:16.400 So in Virginia, you had an established church before the revolution, it was the legislative efforts of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison to deconfessionalize it. 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:21.279 Now, Protestantism, it's a false religion, but in principle, they had a union of church and state. 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:25.279 And so it was Jefferson that deconfessionalized it in large part. 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.000 And unfortunately, George Washington went along with that. 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:34.559 And he said he was happy that they deconfessionalized because it was um offensive to a respectable minority. 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:42.799 And so you have this religious indifferentism that is there from the very beginning, this naturalism that is there from the very beginning of the American Project. 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:49.359 And we're here where we are today, this complete abysmal failure because of the bad principles at the very beginning. 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:51.519 It was inexorably going to end this way. 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.200 Original sin and its effects. 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.680 We don't have

grace in our political order. 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.319 We have a couple of super chats that are really good. 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:04.079 Um, well, first one, this one is uh Please pray for my daughters being baptized on Saturday. 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:05.279 God bless, have a great show tonight. 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:05.839 Congrats. 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.400 Um this one, um, let's see. 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:09.519 How do we as Catholics? 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.759 All right, so and I also want to discuss politics. 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:13.599 I want to discuss the lesser two evils thing. 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.799 Like there's a bunch of places I want to go tonight, so everybody bear with us. 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:24.400 So, how do we as Catholics respond to people who say race matters, race is real, different races have different average IQs and create different societies? 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.960 Uh, I say we if people who say that, we say that right, no. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.640 Yeah, I don't I don't see for the most part, yeah. 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.519 No, I don't think that's that's controversial at all. 00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:44.880 Obviously, within the fundamental unity of the human family, you have many different races, and then even more particularized within the races, you have the various nations. 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.799 That's how I I see it, and I've done a lot of work in this regard. 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:58.160 I have something that'll be releasing soon on this very point, a Catholic theory of race, and thinking about it, because there are really two airs as I see it. 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:02.079 There's one that makes race into everything, and that's racial idolatry. 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.680 There's hatred that comes along with that, this totalizing worldview. 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:06.480 That's an air. 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:16.480 But also the air that we really see today is the opposite, where race is minimized, it's emptied of any importance, it's made into just this pure intellectual abstraction. 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.279 People don't actually appreciate its significance to this life. 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.119 And it's really only us as white people that think this way. 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:28.160 Other groups actually care very much about their race, they have a positive racial identity. 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:35.200 Black Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, uniquely, only white people are denied this legitimate racial identity. 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:40.160 And just like they have rights, we have the same exact rights, and we have we want to have solidarity. 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.799 This is our country, it has a historical character. 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:46.799 So I don't think these things are, these shouldn't be controversial at all. 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.480 And this is another thing that another taboo that needs to be broken down. 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:56.160 And it's really generated from the post-World War II order and consensus, all the mythology there. 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.480 So that's a that's a good question. 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:01.920 But yeah, I don't think anything there is really controversial. 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:05.440 Okay, so now this is the this is what we really got to get to. 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.759 So I we it's this is the same question that's not a super chat, but it's a question and this and this one. 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.200 So uh Evan's asking, will Alex be voting for Acton? 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:18.640 Now, this is something I've been watching you go back and forth with um uh Kevin Davis on. 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:29.039 I've been watching a lot of a lot of typical um normie conservatives going, but how can we vote for someone who supports abortion? 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.839 This whole idea of the lesser of two evils, I used to buy into it too. 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.119 The thing is, there's there's a couple of things going on here. 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.400 I'm sure Alex will do a way better job of expanding on this. 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:50.640 But the the way I see it is the the the principal thing is like conservatives need to stop putting this garbage up in front of us, right? 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:56.480 And they need to they need to know there will be consequences if they put a garbage candidate like Vivek up. 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.720 Like the the way Vivek was installed, he didn't he didn't win the primary. 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:14.000 They just kind of shoved them through and shoved them down everybody's throat, and conservatives just tried to like push him through, and now it's it's like that there is essentially no difference in Amy Acton and Vivek. 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:20.559 Vivek doesn't oppose abortion in any significant like in any significant way. 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:26.720 It's not like he's getting in and he's gonna overturn the constitutional right Ohians now have to abortion. 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:32.079 So, other than that, you see he supports transgenderism, you see he supports uh gay marriage. 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.480 He's pro-contraception. 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.000 He says that outspokenly. 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:43.279 And abor abortion obviously is a very important issue, but it's not the only issue, and you can't look at that to the exclusion of others. 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:50.480 And so, Bavek, like he said before, he's in favor of transgenderism if someone consents to it and it doesn't do harm to others. 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:59.920 He's pro-gay marriage, pro-LGBTQ in certain circumstances, he's pro-contraception, all these points at variance with the natural law and the divine law. 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:13.039 And obviously, Amy Acton, terrible, objectively speaking, but you have to really consider the position that we're in this late in the game, this

stage in our country, in the state in particular. 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:18.079 And my recommendation is I'm just saying simply, never Vivek. 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.559 Do not vote for Vivek Ramaswamy. 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.880 People should be abstaining in principle. 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.720 It's a principled abstention for all the reasons that we can get into. 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.359 And that's my official public position. 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.559 I'm not saying that you have to vote for Amy Acton. 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:33.359 I'm not saying that. 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:44.400 I'm just saying that you should not vote for Vivek Ramaswamy for very principled reasons, because that's actually the way we can influence the Republican Party because other groups do this. 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:49.279 When the demands of black people are not met, they're not going to vote for a politician. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.240 If they don't get patronage, they're not going to vote for a politician. 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:53.039 That's smart. 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:54.079 That's smart politics. 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.160 Jewish people are incredible at this. 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.160 People go out of their way to make sure that they never offend the Jewish community. 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:09.519 Well, the Catholic community needs to be just as intransigent, just as confident, and they need to be worried that anytime they ever cross us, you could potentially lose our vote. 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:17.200 And so we need to get off this GOP plantation outside of this Republicans-Democrat paradigm because it it's just a false dichotomy. 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:23.200 It's really the same principles that are animating both of the parties, these liberal Freemasonic principles. 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:34.160 In some ways, I think it's the Republicans are worse in the same way that I think Lila Rose is just as bad as Alex Cooper from the Call Her Daddy podcast. 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.759 I put I put a tweet out today saying She's probably worse, actually. 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.759 They serve the same purpose to different audiences, right? 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.200 The difference is Lila comes under the veil of orthodoxy, like, oh, I'm the pro-life leader. 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.720 And she's actually getting people who should think properly to think improperly. 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.480 Where the other side, it's like the devil doesn't need to win over those going to hell. 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.079 He needs to win over good souls. 00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:14.559 So Lila is like this um a wolf in sheep's clothing, getting people who are Catholic who would otherwise be like open to the truth, to see things clearly and pulling them towards this improper view of things. 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.079 Bavake is the same thing. 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:24.400 It's it's why I like AOC more than I like a Marjorie Taylor Green or a freaking whatever, whatever any other conservative woman politician. 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:25.519 Nancy Minnesota. 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.200 Yeah, Nancy Grace. 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:45.039 Any one of them, every one of these female conservative politicians who got up and talked about family values and then went cheat, went and cheated on their husbands, had an affair, and started some wild, because they all just wanted to be celebrities, they are way more dangerous than the AOCs and the freaking Elon Omar's, in my opinion. 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.160 So Bavake is in that same category, in my opinion. 00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.559 No, I agree with that wholeheartedly. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.880 And that's just a basic principle of common sense. 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.480 The traitor is more dangerous than the open and honest enemy. 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.680 And so these people, you know, Amy Acton is not our friend. 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:03.039 She's not trying to be our friend or to present herself really as such. 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.319 You look at someone like Candace Owens, I think this is a very good example. 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.519 She sold a book called Make Your Husband a Sandwich. 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:15.279 And she had this whole anti-feminist crusade, this very superficial anti-feminist crusade. 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.240 Meanwhile, she is one of the most public-facing women. 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:25.119 She's involved in a sphere where she completely doesn't belong, which is political commentary and these kind of questions. 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.920 And she is, she seems to be the breadwinner of her family, although George is very wealthy. 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:39.839 But I mean, she's the one that's telling, you know, conservatives that she's opposed to feminism and she's making fun of Gloria Steinem, who was actually an honest Jewish feminist. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.559 Gloria Steinem was an enemy of the patriarchy. 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.640 She just said she was, and she was honest about that. 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.359 Candace Owens doesn't present herself as that way. 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.079 And so it really is like a wolf in sheep's clothing. 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:54.799 Look, this is how they this is how they pulled the revolution off in the church. 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.319 Like the church was always able to withstand enemies from without. 00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.039 Always. 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.920 The church always was able to withstand enemies from without. 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.240 You could never defeat the Catholic arguments. 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:05.359 So what do they do? 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:11.119 They slip in liberals disguised as conservatives who slowly change things from the inside. 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.400 Like this is why you need to have this principled stance. 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.519 That's why I'm really glad Nick, the

Gruper movement, he's like, no, we need to be Catholic. 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:26.800 Because, like you're saying, the Catholic polity needs to have confidence in their unity, right? 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.559 And if you do not satiate us, we will not vote for you. 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.920 And then all of a sudden, oh no, it's not just the Jewish vote we're worried about. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.280 We're worried about the Catholic vote. 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.920 Because the Catholic vote determines every freaking election. 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:47.199 So if we could start getting Catholics to think properly and understand this stuff properly, we could maybe infiltrate from within and pull something off. 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:56.320 Like we don't have a big enough block to elect a candidate yet, but we definitely have a big enough block now, because of Nick, to disrupt elections. 00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:58.800 And that's where we really need the leadership. 00:34:58.880 --> 00:34:59.920 So it's the bishops. 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:09.920 And historically, you look at the United States of America when it came to the production code and its imposition, the bishops would say, under pain of mortal sin, you can't see such and such a film. 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:10.960 This is obscene. 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.719 And the Catholics would be bound to obey. 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:17.760 And that's actually when we're very, very strong because we have the superiors and they're ordering us. 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.159 And so it's really the bishops, the hierarchy. 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:21.760 They need to be the ones to do that. 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:36.880 But I don't know if we have that clip where the it's right after my question, right before the the transgender girl or guy, I'm not sure exactly what it is, comes up because it's it's very representative of this liberalism that is seeped in. 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:38.159 I don't know if you have that one. 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.400 If you sent it to me, I should. 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:40.880 What is it? 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.400 What is it labeled? 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.480 It is labeled something like Thomas Jefferson, the Constitution. 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:47.519 Yeah, you got a problem. 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:48.800 Yeah, yeah. 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.280 Because this is so Vivek and I were were disagreeing, right? 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.480 And he says, Well, I don't agree with what you're saying, but I will defend more or less, I will defend your right to say it. 00:35:58.639 --> 00:35:59.840 You know, you have a right to say that. 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:00.559 This is America. 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.079 So the very next questioner, this is how she starts it out. 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.480 This is what you want to hear. 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.079 Uh did you hear what he just said? 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.000 It says, um, uh Thomas Jefferson, the Tay

question or something. 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.239 Um, I see it. 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.119 Like, yes, you have a point, but I think it's important to get Republicans over the line for this one. 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:21.760 Why? 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.360 What have they done for us? 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.320 They have led us into war, they have destroyed the economy, they have done nothing. 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.119 I'm not the all okay, so look. 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:40.239 The only thing that is better under the Trump uh the Trump presidency is our ability to speak, right? 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.639 So we we're saying like Nick Turns pushed it. 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.039 They're trying to pass laws to prevent that. 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.639 They're trying to pass laws, but we couldn't even have these conversations under Biden drop. 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.880 You would get you would lose your channel, you would lose everything. 00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.000 A big part there's two two principal actors in this whole thing. 00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:57.840 One's Elon and one's Nick. 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.840 Elon allowed everybody to say whatever the hell they want on X. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.320 And that comes with downsides too, of course. 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.280 But we're able to say things we were not allowed to. 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.760 So I got three or four Twitter accounts banned before Elon took over. 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:16.800 This is the first time I've ever had an account where I'm able to actually build on it and say what the hell I want. 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:23.440 And sometimes they'll limit the reach of my tweet, but I'll never, I'm not worried about getting banned or taken out of the equation. 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:24.880 Think about what you just said though. 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:25.679 That's all Elon. 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:26.960 That had nothing to do with Trump. 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:28.239 Nothing to do with Republicans. 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:28.880 Right. 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.800 But but Elon wanted Trump elected. 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.360 Elon and look, Elon's motives for buying Twitter had nothing to do with free speech, and nothing to do with AI and collecting data, all that stuff. 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:44.079 Like it, I'm not naive to that, but that's what made that's why life is a little bit different under the Trump presidency. 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:55.440 But the woke stuff that was going on under Biden, I think, was kind of like a false flag nonsense thing where they just kind of getting rid of that makes you think, oh, we're back to normal again. 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.159 But it was such a stupid thing that went down. 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.880 Nobody thinks men should be in women's sports like that. 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.800 It's just it was such a dumb conversation. 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.719 Let's talk about women's sports. 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.159 Yeah, like women should not be playing sports, period, right? 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:17.519 It's like but um yeah, the other thing, yeah, real quick, just to clarify on on the one question, I think people should look at the individual races. 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:24.320 So it's not, I'm not proposing anything that you should abstain in every single Republican race, you should abstain where it's expedient. 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:32.239 And that's really you're what you're trying to do is you want to vindicate the rights of God and of the Christian family and of all these intermediary institutions. 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.079 And so you have to use prudence. 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:40.000 And if there's not an objectively worthy candidate, then it could be illicit to abstain, and it might actually be expedient. 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:47.599 And so, in that case, I think people should abstain in Ohio here when it comes to Ramaswamy at the top of the ticket, definitely completely absurd. 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.760 And he has to not just lose, he has to lose in a embarrassing way. 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.800 Trump won the state by 11 points. 00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:02.480 I remember in 20, I didn't vote for Trump in 24, but I remember he won this state in 2024 by 11 points. 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:13.039 And this is a this is a pretty red outside of Columbus, Cincinnati, and Cleveland, you know, it's a it's a conservative, uh middle-of-the-country heartland state. 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:23.199 So it's really the cities, and this is a very red state, and it's Favek up against a very unpopular Jewish woman, and he might, and I hope he does, he might lose. 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.239 Yeah, and and it has to be an embarrassing thing for him. 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:31.119 So the other good, the other thing that's better under Trump is the invasion at the southern border. 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.079 Seems to be better, but I don't know if they're just not showing it to us. 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:34.800 I don't know. 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.679 But we never got our wall, he never slowed down the H1B visa garbage. 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.920 So it's like, all right, there aren't millions coming into our country, but there's still hundreds of thousands coming into our country. 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.400 There's more coming in than we're supporting at this point, and that's gotta stop. 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:51.760 That whole thing needs to be reversed. 00:39:51.920 --> 00:40:04.239 So, yeah, I understand people might think, oh, we just got to get the Republicans across the line here, but I think everything Trump has done is leading us towards the abyss right now. 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.639 So you're not gonna you're not gonna whip me over on Trump. 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:11.920 Um on a note of hope, the Republican Party, though, is shifting beneath our very feet. 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:27.840 And so you do see

these ascendant politicians, you know, they're not perfect, but you look at someone like James Fishback, you look at someone like Bo French, there are other men that are going to be rising up within the Republican Party that are America first, they're nationalist, they're Catholic, and that's really what we want. 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.079 We just have to wait for them to arise. 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.519 And then it's we need to burn it all down, uh, metaphorically speaking. 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:41.920 Well, you can you can see just by how nervous they are by the thing with the uh campus Republicans up at Boston College that just happened, right? 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:42.880 That just happened. 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:52.719 We've had we have stories coming out of Ave Maria College, we have stories coming out of Franciscan University, they're setting up this coalition for Catholics against uh anti-Semitism. 00:40:52.880 --> 00:41:03.199 They're doing this because they are afraid, because what's happening right now actually does matter, and they are afraid of it, and they should be afraid of it, and we shouldn't be ashamed of it. 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:18.960 We should be embracing it and we should be getting behind it and pushing everybody we know, especially younger guys, towards this to say, like, we're done with this stuff, like we're we're we're not going to allow another Indian anchor baby to run for governor of any of these states. 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.039 We don't want any more H1V visas coming in. 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:26.800 He needs to lose so bad that that whole race loses so much ezot that they never run for office again. 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.159 All right, play the clip real quick. 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:32.559 Okay. 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:36.639 A challenging question. 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:43.280 I would advise you to next time leave the disingenuous accusations of motivation to one side because there's a more interesting exchange for us to have. 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:48.559 If you believe that Thomas Jefferson as a deist is somebody who would have been unqualified to be U.S. 00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:53.039 president, then I guess you and I see the future of the United States of America differently. 00:41:53.119 --> 00:42:01.679 It so happens that he was the person who signed this document called the Declaration of Independence, which is the greatest mission statement known to a country in the history of mankind, without which the United States. 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.000 I think the gospels probably are a little bit better, but that's just me, I guess. 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.320 And none of the none of the Catholic states. 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.480 It's the Constitution that yeah, yeah. 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:16.480 He was the third US president who signed the Lewis and Clark expeditions, without which we literally wouldn't have the United States of America. 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.079 So if you view him as some type of deviant who should have never been in the U.S. 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.039 presidency, that's a that's a permissible point of view. 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:31.440 It's just not one that I'm my view is very similar to that of Thomas Jefferson, is that it's the commitment to the Constitution that matters whether or not you lead the country. 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:37.280 But the beauty of our nation is that we're able to have different points of view and purposely engage in open exchange. 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.360 And you know, I come down on Thomas Jefferson's side of it. 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.559 And if you're on a different side of it, the beauty of this country is we let you do that. 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:44.079 So thank you, man, for asking the question. 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:51.760 Hi, my name's Tay. 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:58.960 I am very proudly queer transgender, and among the many people in this room who do not believe that Jesus Christ was the only true Son of God. 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:08.719 And I do have a question is what would you say in response to every single major medical association globally that supports, in your words, transgenderism? 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.280 So my view is got to draw a distinction between kids and adults. 00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:12.719 Okay, if you're like just right there. 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:18.960 So this this queer transgender just blasphemes, and it doesn't even affect them. 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:20.639 Like it just no, it doesn't care. 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.159 And this is this is principally what the issue is. 00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:47.760 This is what like I I I think understanding the Jewish question, understanding what they did after World War II with opening our borders, understanding where the problems with religious freedom are, religious liberty, that whole nonsense, and then seeing how once you have religious liberty, it allows these foreign gods to come into your lands and you no longer serve Christ as king. 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:55.679 Like that is like there is there is divine chastisement that comes along with this stuff. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:02.719 So to vote for someone like that, people because I saw people saying, like, it's a Mortal sin to vote for Amy Acton because she supports abortion. 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:08.239 How is it not a mortal sin to vote for a Hindu god worshipper? 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:15.119 Like it is it has to be on equal par of immorality that we're talking about here. 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.360 Uh blasphemy is actually worse than abortion. 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.719 Yeah, it's directly opposed to God and his majesty. 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:32.800 And that's where I do, I think Joshua Charles made this point recently, and it's a very good point where he was talking about how we are really reaping um what we have sown here. 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:44.719 And it is actually this chastisement for our sins, for

the corporate sins of our country, especially in Europe, because these were Catholic countries, they were Catholic states, and they have fallen away, they have really apostasized. 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.199 We were never a Christian country to begin with. 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.760 And so we're really seeing that. 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:55.920 And I think also, you know, white people too, we're being punished for our infidelity to God and his laws. 00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:00.880 And we're seeing the invasion that's happening, this ethnic and demographic replacement. 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.920 And it's not to justify it, but I think that does contextualize it. 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.960 And it it's looking at it in a supernatural point of view. 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:15.360 And everyone's familiar with uh the old testament where it talks about one of the punishments of the Jews when they were unfaithful is that they would be ruled over by foreigners and women. 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.159 And tell me now that we are not seeing that today. 00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.480 And so, not to justify anything. 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:24.719 It's literally your election, your electoral choices, a foreigner or a woman. 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:25.599 Yes. 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.239 So it's not to justify it, but it's just, and we should oppose it very vehemently. 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.639 But you know, some of this is is due. 00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.880 Rob, let's also play the clip Matt Gaspers posted recently. 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:41.280 Um that was the last one I sent in the uh in the not the one I just sent. 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:43.920 I sent the the last Vivake thing I sent. 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.519 And then when we go to locals, I got a ton of stuff I want to talk about on locals. 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:57.760 I want to talk about so the the Sophia, what they changed, Sophia Press took out some very significant things in their book, End of the Present World, which we've discussed on this show. 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:02.480 Um I want to discuss Tim Flanders' 1 Peter 5 statement. 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:09.760 Um, I want to discuss uh we could do the Vatican document, but I almost don't care to do that. 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.079 Um I haven't even looked at it yet. 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.079 I want to discuss Father Ripper. 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:18.239 Uh this is a whole bunch of stuff I want to talk about on the other side. 00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:19.679 Locals are gonna be fun tonight. 00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.000 Local is gonna be a good show tonight. 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.760 So all right, so this is Matt Gaspers posted this about an hour ago. 00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:32.639 This is like this alone should disqualify any anybody running for office right here. 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:48.239 The Jewish state has an absolute right to exist, a divine gift, gifted to a divine nation, charged with a divine purpose. 00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.679 Israel has an What does that even mean coming from a Hindu? 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.440 Well the thing is, he didn't just worship like false gods, he worships Israel too. 00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.360 It's like, what the hell is this? 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:08.400 He was involved at Yale in Shabtai, which is a Jewish secret society, it's a club, and he would attend their Shabbat dinners every week. 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:17.840 There's an article you can look this up online, uh, it's reported on, and so he he has these ties, and what he's about to say here, he will make Ben Shapiro blush. 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.280 The way in which I mean he it's it's crazy. 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.000 What is it with Indians and their love for Israel? 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:25.679 I I don't understand it. 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:27.679 Yeah, I don't quite understand it as well. 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.199 There, there's this real affinity, like this Hindu Jewish alliance. 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:37.920 He's trying to be like a like this is the new free Freemasonry, like that's what this is the he's a striver too. 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:41.280 A striver? 00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:50.320 Like he's uh he's looking for influence for the secret society I don't know about. 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:51.039 No, no, no. 00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.880 Anthony's conspiracy brain was going around a million miles an hour. 00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:56.800 These are the these are the new Freemasons. 00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:02.159 Like you have to think, like free Freemasonry is a Jewish thing, it's just they allow Gentiles in it. 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.760 Like they don't care that whatever they need to do to achieve their goals, they're going to do. 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.440 So they'll always use the goyum to accomplish what they want to accomplish. 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:10.000 They don't care. 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:10.960 They're not that principled. 00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:15.119 It's not like, you know, they they they'll they'll use whatever means they need to. 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:16.800 So all right, finish playing it. 00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:29.760 Absolute and unequivocal right and responsibility to defend itself to the fullest, applying the only language that its adversaries understand, the language of force. 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.199 So what would David Ben Gurion say today? 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:43.760 He would say, don't depend on anybody else's fleeting sympathies or permission to do it. 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:50.000 If Israel wants to destroy Hamas, Israel should go ahead and destroy Hamas. 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.920 What's funny is uh Ben Gurion was a socialist. 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.599 Did he read the founding fathers? 00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:03.840 Probably not. 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:12.719 If we went to school with this kid out of shoved him in the house, he went to a Catholic high school, same Xavier.

00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.239 His head looks like it was made for sorleys. 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.039 Man, it's just crazy. 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:19.599 Look at him. 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:24.079 He's like, I want to be president so bad, I will worship Israel in public. 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:25.360 How bad does this get? 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.400 I didn't listen to the whole thing. 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:26.719 I don't know. 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:28.480 No, it gets even better. 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.039 I mean, it's it's unhinged at the very end. 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:33.519 I'm just getting started. 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:39.280 If Israel wants to destroy Hezola, Israel should go ahead and destroy Hezbollah. 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:56.960 If Israel and Mossad want to pull off Munich 2.0 and take out every last leader of Hamas wherever they may be hiding from Doha to Dresden, host a red wedding at the four seasons and cover the next time Hani and show up, they should go ahead and do it. 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.440 Wants to at long last abandon the myth of a two-state solution. 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.639 Israel should go ahead and abandon a two-state solution. 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.039 I mean, it's literally calling for genocide. 00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:18.239 Genocide, Greater Israel project, the antichristic messianic kingdom, he is calling forth because he wants the Jewish lobbying money right here. 00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:19.920 But it's it's so brazen. 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:26.800 And it's and it's like he's feeding, he's feeding red meat to them, and he's not a Christian, so they love him. 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:27.280 Oh, yeah. 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:29.119 He's not a Christian, right? 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.519 He's like John Page, but a Hindu. 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:41.679 It's like Hindu Obama, but a Zionist. 00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:46.800 For everyone in the in the chat who was going to vote for him up until now, how do you feel about that right now? 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:48.559 Wow, man. 00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:50.559 Because I wouldn't feel good about that. 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:51.840 Oof. 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.599 Do we want to keep going on this? 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.400 He says it gets crazy or towards the end. 00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:58.960 Let's finish with that. 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:00.400 That was the high point. 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:01.360 That was the high point. 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:01.679 Okay. 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.039 Um, okay, so we do have somebody had a follow-up. 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:06.239 Uh oh, sorry. 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:07.360 We'll we'll do this one first. 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:08.480 We'll do the last one. 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:10.400 Have to save for Italy trip. 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:12.639 Oh, Mimi's coming to Italy, I think. 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:13.599 She emailed me. 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:14.000 Let's see. 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.199 Let's hope she gets on it. 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:16.559 So uh then this one. 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:17.760 Okay, so great discussion. 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:19.920 Ballsy to most to ballsy too. 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:21.840 Most won't touch this in the Catholic community. 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.679 Quick follow-up to my race question. 00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.800 Do you guys think God made some races on average smarter than others? 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.400 I think God gives different gifts and talents to different races. 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.079 Some might be a higher higher IQ, some might have different talents. 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.280 I don't IQ isn't everything, it's not. 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:44.400 Um, like you could see the Japanese have higher IQs than than Europeans, but the Europeans built Christian. 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:45.599 What? 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.639 Not by much, it's pretty pretty negligible there, actually. 00:51:49.280 --> 00:52:03.039 Well, I was trying to make a point, but you're probably I think if if people so you have the fundamental unity of humankind, and we're we're all equal insofar as we have rational souls, we're made in the image of God. 00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:15.280 So, from that metaphysical point of view, there is this equality, but when it comes to the concrete reality, there is inequality, a legitimate inequality, and God did not distribute his grace uniformly across all the nations. 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.280 Look, even within your own family, everyone is not the same level intelligence. 00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:25.039 Look at the various nations, there's not the same level of intelligence perfectly distributed equally. 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:31.440 So there can be this accidental gradation of intelligence, and it's not always accidental either, okay? 00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:37.440 So Christianity itself, the church comes in and it puts restrictions on incest. 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:38.159 Okay. 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.920 So like being Christian puts restrictions on incest. 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.880 Incest has a very, very high effect on IQ. 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:59.280 So once you start separating, allow like you don't allow brothers and sisters, not even first cousins, not even second cousins, that has a big effect on the outcome of people over long periods of time. 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:04.880 Well, like if sin darkens the int intellect, there's some cases it does it physically. 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:05.920 Yeah. 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:06.880 Yeah. 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.800 So like like being in Christian nations over a long period of time absolutely did. 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.400 And plus, like um monasteries, man. 00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.039 Like the monasteries changed history. 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:21.280 So, but yeah, I don't know. 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:27.039 I mean, it it look, this is these are difficult topics, but it's it's something that needs to be

considered. 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:45.039 It's one of those things like when you see um Kenyans take the top 20 spots in a in a marathon, no one's afraid to say that Kenyans for some reason have some genetic gift that allows them to run marathons, but yet you you know, you talk about math or science or or anything intellectual in boys. 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:51.119 Now you suddenly can't say that some nations have genetic gifts that help them with those things. 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.960 Yeah, that's that's a pernicious influence of white guilt. 00:53:55.039 --> 00:54:01.199 And so we can recognize exceptional qualities in in other races or strengths in other groups of people. 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:06.159 Black people, for example, they're artistic, they're very creative, you know, they also have problems too. 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:11.679 Criminality, uh, generally speaking, a lower level of intelligence, impulse control, these kinds of things. 00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:17.440 So that's where, but you but you want to you want to understand it in this Catholic framework. 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:22.880 And it's just a matter of of reality, and and practical experience confirms this too. 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.639 Everyone has been to to school before and see how the different groups perform. 00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:30.960 And it it's just it's just how it is um when it comes to experience. 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.679 And each group is gonna have strengths and weaknesses, and you want to be aware of both. 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:38.559 Okay, all right. 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:39.199 Hold on. 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.079 Speaking of football, did you guys see the Atlanta Falcons? 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:44.880 No, what are we talking about? 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.880 No, you think somebody posted something, they're changing their logo or something. 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.079 Okay, never mind. 00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:53.519 It can be a locals topic. 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:54.079 Okay. 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.639 Um, all right, so we're going to go over to the other side. 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.840 Like I said, we have I want to discuss Father Ripiger. 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:08.480 I want to discuss uh the Sophia Press editing of the end of the present age. 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.519 I want to discuss uh I had a few other things. 00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:13.039 I know I mentioned them already. 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.519 Um, I want to discuss one Peter Five and Tim Flanders. 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:23.039 I was going to put that on Twitter, but I didn't want to seem like I was bullying Eric and Tim Flanders at the same time. 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.840 After right after you bullied Eric for something else? 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:30.320 Yeah, like I just put a video out about Eric and I didn't want to jump on on Tim right after. 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.800 So uh we'll discuss all that on the other side. 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.440 Uh Alex, where can people find you? 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:37.840 Where is the best way for people to follow your work? 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.079 I know you're over at Integrity and you're on Twitter at American Reform. 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:43.679 Is there a YouTube channel coming? 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.440 What is in the works? 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:51.519 So the two major platforms you might say, Integrity magazine, go check that out, please. 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:59.920 And then the other one is the Journal of American Reform that is on Substack if you're interested in more of academic writing, longer form essays. 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.679 And I do plan on making a YouTube uh channel. 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.800 I I have one right now, but it's not actually really in use. 00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.000 So I I want to put out videos and more longer form essays. 00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.480 So hopefully people will be interested in that. 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.039 But yeah, thank you very much for this conversation. 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:15.599 It was great. 00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:17.360 We love having you on, man. 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.239 You're always a freaking interesting guest, you're always awesome. 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:27.119 I really am like I I'm I'm so grateful that you had the courage to get up on stage like that. 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:32.079 I'm grateful you had the courage of revealing your face to everybody. 00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:33.760 Am I frozen to you guys? 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:35.920 Uh yes, it's awesome. 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.280 You look like uh you look like you're doing blue steel. 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.840 Oh gosh, I don't know what's going on in my internet. 00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:43.280 Maybe I'll I'll reboot it. 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:44.719 Uh it looks like it's better now. 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.280 Um, yeah, uh that you had the courage to come and reveal your face to everybody. 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.280 Um maybe we'll do the story behind that on the other side too. 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.079 I know you you had a job change, and that's behind that. 00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.440 So um yeah, guys, go go support American Reform. 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:04.639 He's like, look, he everything he presents is through the Catholic lens. 00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:14.880 He uh is the master at bringing up like uh uh uh papal statements and stuff from the magisterium before the council. 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:21.039 I've never seen anybody provide yeah, he's got a screenshot with something from the magisterium for everything. 00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.159 It's awesome. 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.280 I try, but I have to give you guys a lot of credit too, because you you you've had me on. 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.400 I know we disagree on the crisis in the church and the Pope question. 00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:37.119 That's obviously a very big question, but you've always treated me

very well, just like a fellow Catholic, and I really do appreciate that. 00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.519 And like that's that's exceptional. 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.119 So I I I really want to thank you for that and just allowing me to come on here. 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:44.079 It's been great. 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:49.840 And I I want you guys, if if I can, the the papal encyclical series that you guys had going, that was great. 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.480 Like I was watching that, uh, keeping along with it. 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.239 So maybe in the future that'll come back. 00:57:54.480 --> 00:58:01.760 Dude, that series actually woke me up to the problem of America more than anything. 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:06.079 And we haven't even gotten to the one on Americanism yet. 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:07.840 Oh my gosh, man. 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:09.760 We do have to get back to that. 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:11.039 Yeah, we really do. 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:11.760 All right, all right. 00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.360 Well, we're going over to locals now, guys. 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.400 It's gonna be a fun local show. 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:15.039 Come and join us. 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.480 You won't you won't be mad about this one. 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:17.840 Yeah, you uh please please. 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:18.800 Oh, AI. 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.000 I want to discuss AI too. 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:23.840 Me and Rob had what a freaking week we had with AI, man. 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:24.559 We have to talk. 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.239 I have we have so much to talk about today. 00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:27.360 This is gonna be a fun show. 00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:32.960 All right, and if you're not a locals member, please join because I'm I probably won't monetize the show. 00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:37.519 Just I don't want all the sensors looking at uh at it super closely. 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:42.000 So please please come join locals because this one's not gonna make anything. 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:42.559 All right. 00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:44.000 All right, we'll see you guys on the other side. 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:50.000 Guys, I'm gonna reboot my computer while we are um you got a minute and a half video anyway. 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:51.360 So yeah, throw that on. 00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.000 Let me reboot my computer and I'll I'll pop on locals in a minute. 00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:54.639 Okay, here we go. 00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:56.079 Yeah, the integrity promo. 00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:57.840 This should be the integrity promo, yeah. 00:58:58.159 --> 00:58:59.599 Here we go, guys. 00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.119 Integrity magazine presents. 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.000 First up, PLM. 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.400 We will have to have the judges to some more. 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.039 This wasn't part of the competition. 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:13.760 Wait. 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.159 An unexpected contender. 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:17.360 American Reform.