บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Alternative Colchester #7

then introduce the track itself? 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:58.000 Yeah, well to um uh this is a B side and it's a Jonathan Richmond B side from uh Roadrunner, and so the Roadrunner single was in our house. 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:08.479 And um the what what I like about this and why it connects with me and when the idea of punk rock is that uh you know that one of the big things was that anyone can do it. 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.560 It was a DIY art form, wasn't it? 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:23.360 You know, it's kind of like uh changing the whole kind of music scene from um you know the what the whistlet was playing then to kind of like the prog rock and this progress kind of carry on. 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:36.240 To a kind of ethos uh of if if if you've got the the the the Terran or the guts or the kind of like will to push over enough phone boxes and collect the two Ps, you you can make a piece of vinyl as well. 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:58.639 Uh and um so records that you know like the long kind of Frank Zappa's interminable kind of orchestral prog rock will replaced by a kind of like joyous simplicity, and none more so than the if you're talking about joyous simplicity, Jonathan Richmond kind of like uh um captures that entirely, you know. 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:09.040 You can just you know, garage bands, all the kind of like uh ideas that went with the uh He probably didn't realise at the time either that well you don't realise it when you're creating history, do you? 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.600 But um yeah, he was proto-punk for sure. 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:15.120 Uh very DIY. 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.199 Started in 1970, the modern lovers, Jonathan Richard and the Modern Lovers, yeah. 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:26.079 And um but th they were definitely in the right place at the right time when punk happened because they were ready-made for it, really. 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:34.800 Well I think there was wasn't there good I mean there was quite a few bands that were, you know, up and running before punk came, and they just kind of like tweaked their it kind of like gave them their voice. 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:37.439 I mean Costello had uh sorts of stranglers. 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:38.319 Yeah. 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:40.160 There's lots of them that did that. 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:50.800 Yeah, the pub circuit in the UK with R and B bands, yeah, they saw uh uh uh an option there to jump ship and um get on the bandwagon. 00:05:50.879 --> 00:06:01.680 I mean, the vibrators were probably the most uh successful of the punk rock bands that were just doing uh regular pub rock type music beforehand, but um should we listen to Jonathan Richmond and the modern lovers? 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:02.399 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:04.959 This one is uh what's it called called aeroplane? 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:06.240 I'm a little airplane. 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:07.600 I'm a little aeroplane. 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.079 Well, I'm a little airplane. 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.160 I'm a little airplane, yeah, yeah. 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.800 I'm a little airplane, yeah. 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.000 I'm a little airplane, yeah, yeah. 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:29.600 Well, you play. 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:47.839 What do you play? 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:04.560 What do you want? 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:06.079 What do you want? 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.800 You know, I'm a little airplane, yeah. 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.399 I'm a little airplane, I go for everyone. 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:38.399 I'm a little airplane. 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.439 I can put a nine, you may be one in the top. 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.319 I'm a little airplane, yeah. 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.759 I'm a little airplane, yeah, yeah. 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.240 I'm a little airplane, meow. 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:35.360 I'm a little airplane, yeah, meow way if you weigh. 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:36.480 I go everywhere. 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.600 I'm a little airplane, meow. 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.360 Jonathan Richmond and the modern lovers, I'm a little airplane meow. 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.159 And the applause at the end didn't sound live, did it? 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:53.200 No, it didn't, did it? 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:53.600 No. 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:55.120 Great, great choice, Ant. 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:56.480 We we uh thoroughly approve of that. 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:03.919 I mean it just kind of like sums up a lot of the uh kind of ethos and and attitude and spirit and fun of the what was happening at the time. 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.799 It all felt so uh contemporary. 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.399 It all felt like one week was one thing and then the next week could be everything else. 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:18.399 And to take a uh a childhood kind of phrase, I'm a little aeroplane now, and and turn that into a song. 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:20.080 I mean tell that to Frank Zapper. 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.000 It sounds like a wishbone ash. 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.039 It sounds like a punk rock Bob Dylan to me as well. 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:27.919 Absolutely, absolutely brilliant. 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.440 And uh Did you ever have Jonathan Richmond at the Art Centre? 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:32.399 I don't think he's gonna. 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:33.759 Is he still around? 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:34.159 Yeah. 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:36.960 He could play. 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:38.480 As we always say the 80s. 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:40.559 You play the venue twice, once on the way up. 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:42.879 He's 75 in May, by the way. 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:43.840 He's 75. 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:45.360 Yes, good. 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.519 Get Jonathan Richmond down the Art Centre. 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:48.639 You heard it here first. 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:54.720 Um as as we're playing our we always play stiff little fingers on on this podcast. 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:59.039 And Steve

and I have had a bit of a stiff little fingers um Frenzy. 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.120 Frenzy over the last week or so, aren't we? 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:07.200 We saw Stiff Little Fingers, Jake Burns, Ali McMordy, uh, Ian McCallan and who's the drummer? 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:07.840 Carl. 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:08.480 Other bloke. 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:09.919 Carl, the other bloke. 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.960 Uh Camden Roundhouse a week or so ago. 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.000 Uh packed about 3,000 people there, we reckon. 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:17.600 Packed the roundhouse out. 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:20.639 Supported by the Meffs, who of course are a local band. 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:20.960 Yeah. 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:21.679 Lovely. 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:23.919 Um I enjoyed them more than Steve did. 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:25.679 Maybe more of that later. 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:27.679 They were brilliant, played a great set. 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:37.759 And uh and then this Saturday Just Gone, we saw XSLF, a slightly smaller venue, three wise monkeys in Colchester. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:39.840 There was about thirty people there. 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.000 Yeah, it was a disappointing turnout, wasn't it? 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:42.960 But they were great, weren't they? 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:43.600 They were brilliant. 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:48.399 Henry Clooney, original member of Stiff Little Fingers, is in XSLF. 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:55.440 Is that the only member that's in the uh Yeah, there's two of them in Stiff Little Fingers and one in XSLF. 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.159 And there used to be two in XSLF as well. 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:05.360 But the um uh drummer Jim Riley is um yeah he he's had to retire through health problems. 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:06.639 Oh, that's a shame. 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.639 I like it when there's a a massive argument. 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:15.840 Then the drummer could have formed X X SLF. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:26.320 Well what was amazing is the two other members of XSLF were both members of the Defects, who are a band that I was really into in the early eighties. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:32.639 Um and I have actually checked because we do go to nineteen eighty one as our um cut-off point for music. 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:40.320 And Dance by the Defects came out in nineteen eighty one, so that's definitely gonna feature in a forthcoming show. 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:41.759 But they were really nice guys as well, weren't they? 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:42.399 They were lovely. 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:43.919 We had a chat with them afterwards, didn't we? 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:45.279 And uh had our picture taken. 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:45.679 Yeah. 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.120 So 1981's allowed. 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:48.480 1981's allowed, yeah. 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:52.399 You don't know if you don't know ref reference to VAR for 1981. 00:11:52.799 --> 00:12:02.000 V A R uh well you've gone way past it on one of your um choices, but um we're gonna let you off because you're the guest and what the guest says goes. 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:19.360 Anyway, the Stiff Little Fingers track we neither Stiff Little Fingers nor XSLF played this, and I f I think the only time I've heard Stiff Little Fingers play this track live is here in 1978, the famous gig Tom Robinson supported by Stiff Little Fingers. 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:20.720 Um it was the B Side. 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:25.919 Was this the B-side 2 alternative holster? 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:34.159 This is the B-side 2 alternative holster, and it's called 78 Revolutions per Minute. 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.360 You said 79's gonna be mine. 00:13:03.120 --> 00:15:08.000 Seventy two weight we're gonna hell Seventy French seven bomb I'll be given by it, black, all that, but it's time to dump it, dump it, I'm gonna die, stop the one, but it's that all the ball stops the one level, drop your mind, don't you buy, but your pie, but your pie, stop the dumb bed, stop the lunch to dump it now, I'm then now I mean now not tomorrow, don't it now? 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:14.480 Stiff Little Fingers, as always, on Alternative Colchester and 78 RPM Classic Skeeve, eh? 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:17.759 Yeah, no, I mean that's just what just brilliant, isn't it? 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:19.440 What can you say about that song? 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:20.000 It's fantastic. 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:21.519 All their songs are fantastic. 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:23.360 This is the problem Steve and I have, Anne. 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.840 We we look at our stiff little fingers track we're gonna choose for each episode, and we say, I'll have that one. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:29.039 No, no, I want that one. 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:30.320 And I'll know that one. 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:32.240 And it's just so sport for choice. 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.360 Is there a you've talked about XSLF? 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:41.679 What's the most tenuous band touring with a uh a link? 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.480 You know, like a I think the Ramones came once with the roadie that played the art centre. 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.600 No, you had Marky Ramones Blitzkrieg played at the art centre. 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:50.320 I was at that. 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:50.799 Yeah, yeah. 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.360 So he was the not original drummer. 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:59.360 But isn't there a sort of like fifteen different I think I think I tell you what, we're trying to put on the bony M. 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:01.759 Good luck. 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.879 And I was saying, is the dancer? 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:06.080 You've got to have the dancer. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:06.639 Bobby. 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:07.679 No, he died, yes. 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:08.399 Yeah, no, he died. 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:10.320 I said, well, dig him up. 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.799 You could have and the band could be bony, bony M. 00:16:15.600

--> 00:16:16.639 You could put 'em on. 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:21.440 You know, it's a bit tenuous, dragging the corpse of a body on stage, but why not? 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.600 The art centres there to do new things. 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:24.960 It's quite punk rock, isn't it? 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.279 Or it would have been original punk rock, I think that would have been. 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:29.440 Very bony M. 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:39.600 Ant and I had a an extremely long uh c uh message thread about he put a bon Jovi tribute band on at the Art Centre recently. 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:43.840 And were they called Gon Jovi, or was that one we made up? 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:45.679 Non-Jovi other. 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:48.960 I thought we came up with Hunter. 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:50.240 Ron Jovi. 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:54.879 Plays all the Bon Jovi tracks on Bonjo in a jolly way. 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:59.440 And then we had Bon Jovi, which could have been Jody Whitka's new band. 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:00.799 I've seen Bon Jovi. 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:01.360 Oh god. 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:02.559 Steve, you're disappointed. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:03.120 I saw them. 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:03.840 Why? 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.119 I saw them in Monroe, Louisiana. 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:07.920 Why? 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.799 Er because they were supporting a band called Rat, R. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:13.039 A. 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.279 Double T, who I really liked. 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.920 Um Bon Jovi, which is this up-and-coming band that was supporting. 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:21.119 Oh right. 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.519 Are r are Rat still uh going? 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:24.079 No. 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.839 No, I don't think well they're bound to have got back together with the original keyboard. 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:28.720 X rat. 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:31.920 X rat Roland. 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:33.359 Roland Rat. 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:34.240 Yes. 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.039 We said this about Queen, though, didn't we, last week? 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.720 The only thing worse than a tribute band is the actual band. 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:44.880 Yeah, no, they say that about Bob Dylan as well, don't they? 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.319 They say that he's really, really like shot to pieces now. 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:48.640 Yes. 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:53.200 And it's like the classic bee rattling around in a jar, tried to listen to. 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:56.240 Steve, I thought we had an indent for Stiff Little Fear. 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:56.960 Haven't you done it yet? 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.680 Well, it was excess LFA, wasn't it? 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:03.599 So I didn't think it was appropriate to it's only Henry songs that we can do that with. 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:04.480 Yeah. 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:05.599 And there's not many. 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.319 And he described he described wasted life, didn't he? 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.519 No, I no, he's he wrote a suspect device. 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:12.000 Yeah. 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:13.519 So he led us all to believe that. 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.200 And uh here we are nowhere. 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:21.200 We will find a suitable. 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.160 So there was there was about thirty at this gig. 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:29.599 No, it was more than that, because he took five hundred at the stiff fingers gig at the roundhouse. 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:31.279 Yeah, they're on fire. 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:32.319 The career's on fire. 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:34.559 But the Henry and the lads were so nice, aren't they? 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:35.759 Such nice blokes. 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:42.160 But yeah, he lost uh the the support band, the lead singer had promoted the gig. 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.000 He w there they were called Jack the Lad. 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:44.640 I see. 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:49.920 And there was another support band called Under the Kosh because um Blenderhead couldn't make it. 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:51.039 Blenderhead. 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:51.759 They couldn't make it. 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:52.799 That's quite a good name. 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:53.440 Under the kosh. 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:54.720 How did you find all this out? 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.279 I read it on the notice board in three weeks. 00:18:58.319 --> 00:18:59.279 And Under the Kosh. 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:01.440 Was that is that anything to do with Kosh the Driver? 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:02.640 It might have been. 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:06.160 Is that the That's the uh yeah, the biggest blow it was also called? 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.240 Well we missed them, but Jack the Lad were probably. 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:10.480 No, we saw Jack the Lad, didn't we? 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:11.279 We saw both of them. 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:11.680 Oh we did. 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:13.039 Under the kosh with a Shatter Sham. 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:13.920 Shatter Sham 69. 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:15.119 They did Ballstall Breaker. 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:16.400 Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:16.799 Yeah. 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:18.079 What's your one, Steve? 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.200 What's your first choice today? 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.960 Uh right, well, there's a bit of a theme running through the show. 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:26.559 And we haven't spoken about football, but I think that's because you two are just so cool. 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:28.720 We're on our international break, yes. 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:30.480 Ah, international break. 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.599 So so comedy seems to be the order of the day with you two. 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.839 Um I I might have known. 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.240 Uh right, there is a theme running through this. 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:46.000 So when I saw that you had chosen, I'm gonna bit uh spoiler alert,

um, because Tim, you've chosen a Tom Robinson band. 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:46.720 Absolutely. 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:47.440 Ah records. 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.119 I've got a Tom Robinson's story for you. 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.160 Well we'll save that for when we play Tom Robinson. 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:52.319 Okay. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.680 Grey Cortina by the Tom Robinson band, and the link is Cortina. 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.319 So I've chosen a Cortinas track. 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:09.759 I've been meaning to play one ever since we started the show, and they keep getting bumped because people keep um making requests, which I've been honouring. 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:11.759 Um can I request the Cortinas? 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:15.279 You can request the Cortinas, because that's actually the next song. 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:17.839 And lucky is if by magic. 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:28.960 It's it's actually the uh I wanted to play Fascist Dictator, which is my favourite um Cortina song, but it's kind of got 1970s lyrics. 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:29.599 Okay. 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:36.079 So I thought I'm gonna give in to the PC Brigade and and not play it. 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:49.039 But their follow-up single, uh on Step Forward Records, actually, they were from Bristol, the Cortinas, and Step Forward Records was owned by Mark Perry of Alternative TV, and also Miles Copeland, brother of Stuart Copeland. 00:20:49.440 --> 00:21:00.079 Um and the Cortinas had two great singles on Step Forward, they got picked up by CBS Records and made the worst album ever in the history of punk rock. 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:01.839 It was absolutely dreadful. 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.599 Michael and I request that one then, brother. 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.079 Well, it'd probably be more in keeping. 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:14.400 But without further ado, let's listen to the Cortinas when they were really good, and this was their second single called Defiant Pose. 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.079 Defiant pose by the Cortinas. 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.480 I could have played um Fascist Dictator after all after listening to some of the lyrics in that. 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.960 But um Thank you for drawing attention to him. 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:01.599 Yeah, it's all it's all done in good faith. 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:02.079 Absolutely. 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:09.519 The other fun fact about the Courtinas is uh Nick Shepherd, the guitarist, uh joined the Clash. 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:23.519 And yeah, so not only did he was he responsible for the probably the worst album ever uh for the Cortinas album uh on CBS Records, but he then joined the Clash in time for them to do Cut the Crap, and that was a terrible album. 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:24.640 That was a good album. 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.039 So he's got bad form as our Nick. 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:28.960 Oh is he still available for work? 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:30.720 The Art Centre will book. 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:33.440 I'd like to advise him to play at the Art Centre. 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:35.039 I'll check it out. 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.599 We haven't spoken much about football, but um Ant, you are we mentioned you're a Watford fan. 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:42.160 Tell us why you why you support Watford. 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:43.440 Well, I don't really. 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.519 You do when they win. 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:46.079 Yeah. 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:48.960 Uh I'm uh the member of the Fair Weather Support Association. 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:50.000 Like Elton John. 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.359 So you're not a true Hornet. 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:55.039 He is, because he's from Watford. 00:24:55.279 --> 00:25:07.119 Well, I'm from Watford and I follow them, but uh I I like to think that I'm the uh least loyal um fan because when they lose I disown them immediately and uh uh support Luton. 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.319 So uh you know I can't even ask you how they got on at the weekend because you had a famous international break. 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:15.920 Next game's against QPR. 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.079 Yeah, no, I'm supporting the Golden Boys. 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.319 Uh when was the last time you saw them live? 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:27.440 Oh it would have been about uh nineteen, seven before Punk. 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:29.119 Fair few years ago, yeah. 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:40.880 So I always say I'm not really a proper football fan because I I uh Ann and I uh do m talk about football a fair bit and um I was gonna read a list, but it will take most of the show. 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.160 It's not well I I'll I'll I'll do the first few. 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:48.000 This is from twenty eleven to twenty twenty seven twenty twenty where are we now? 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:58.079 Twenty twenty-six Sean Dyce, Jan Franco Zola, Giuseppe Sanino, Oscar Garcia, your favourite Oscar Garcia did four games. 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:12.799 Billy McKinley did two games, Slavasa Yokanovich, Kike Sanchez Flores, Flores, Walter Mazzari, Marco Silva, Javi Garcia, Kike Sanchez Flores again. 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:18.960 That's the first eleven of the twenty-seven managers Watford have had between twenty eleven and twenty. 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:20.640 I just see twenty seven. 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.720 My favourite is the two games Billy McKinley McKinley McKinley. 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:36.960 Now Billy McKinley was a manager for eight days, had two games, and his record over those two games was one one, drew one, and he still got the sack. 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:38.720 But I think rightly so. 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.200 Because that's an average of two points per game. 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:41.599 Yeah. 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.640 But it's not good enough. 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:43.759 Results-driven business. 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.119 He's a results-driven business. 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:46.319 He had

to go. 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.759 My should never have got rid of Graham Taylor. 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.720 Well, I think that turniphead had to go. 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.039 My idea is that they should sack the manager every half. 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:01.279 And then you come in at half time, you've got a new manager, you get new manager bounce. 00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:02.319 New manager bounce. 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:03.440 Back out there. 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:04.000 You know. 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.079 I mean, well done for reeling off eleven names, because I can't remember any of them. 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:14.880 Um, my friend David Westhead, we always say, get rid of what's his name and bring back what's his name. 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:20.079 It's never been the same since the fellow before what's his name was there. 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:31.039 And actually, yeah, the next one on the list has a Colchester connection, because the next one on the list was a caretaker manager for Watford who became manager of Colchester, Hayden Mullins. 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:31.759 Oh dear. 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.640 And he was caretaker and manager of Watford twice. 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:35.599 He was shocking. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:38.880 In the sense they're all caretaker managers of Watford, aren't they? 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.880 And has Ant has applied more than once to uh talking of sacking. 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:44.640 I think they should appoint you. 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:45.279 They should. 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.119 Record track record of success. 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.960 How did that Tottenham guy that they sacked yesterday get the job in the first place? 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.119 I looked on his uh Wikipedia to see what his um Egor Chudas. 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.559 The guy's been a disaster everywhere he's been. 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.000 But he gets results quickly. 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:03.440 I can see He doesn't though. 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.119 Luke is desperate to get in. 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.160 Luke, have you got some profound wisdom to share with us about any of this? 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.200 No, not for um not for Spurs, to be fair. 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:12.480 I've got a lot of Spurs fans. 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:17.599 But his his dad it was mutual um mutual agreement that he left, wasn't it? 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:19.279 Because I think his dad passed away, unfortunately. 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:20.559 Yeah, that's right. 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.160 But I think there's probably more to it. 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:29.119 But if you look at every other managerial position he's had, it they've only ever lasted a year or less. 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:30.079 Absolutely. 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.160 They ought to appoint Billy McKinley. 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:33.359 Billy McKinley, yeah. 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:34.960 If they want to stay up, is he still alive? 00:28:36.960 -->

00:28:37.119 Yeah. 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:39.279 He's in the mixknap for four games. 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.279 Harry is in the mix, isn't he? 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.160 He he was at um he was at the races, wasn't he? 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.240 And they asked him about it and he said he would take it. 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:46.640 Yeah. 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.880 Bring back Harry's at Cheltenham. 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.319 He's probably got a bet on it. 00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:53.119 Or as the Stranglers would say, don't bring Harry. 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.799 Do you know what the Stranglers song? 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.400 Do you know what Harry stood for? 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.799 Is it something to do with drugs, Steve? 00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:01.440 H is a bit of a clue. 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:02.079 Oh yes. 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.079 Yeah, they do they do a few songs about it. 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:05.119 Don't bring Harry. 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.200 Meaning don't bring it. 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:07.519 Yes. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:08.799 Golden Brown. 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.759 Yes, that's um people think that's a lovely song. 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:18.480 Or perhaps the less kind of like um metaphoric uh heroin by uh Velvet Underground. 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.000 Yes, they were a bit less subtle. 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.319 This this perfect day? 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:23.599 No, not this perfect day. 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:25.440 That was the same but perfect day. 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.400 Perfect day. 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:27.519 Lou Reed? 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:28.480 Spending with you. 00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:28.960 Yeah, yeah. 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.720 Yeah, and that was about spending it in. 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:31.599 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:32.160 Enough. 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:34.400 Yes, indeed. 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:35.359 Enough already. 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:36.880 There's too many drug references. 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:37.680 Right. 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.160 Let's get back to the Courtinas reference then. 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:40.720 No, let's not. 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:41.599 No, no, let's not. 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:42.000 Let's not. 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:43.440 Let's talk about Ivor Cutler. 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.680 Yeah, let's talk about Ivor Cutler with this Mark Two. 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.079 It's your turn, Anthony. 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.000 And I how you're how you're gonna um explain this one, I don't know. 00:29:54.319 --> 00:30:14.880 So uh well, Peel introduced me to a lot of uh things and I was talking uh about um you know the kind of uh shock when you accidentally dial into Radio 3 after ten o'clock and uh listening to Ivan Carter was like what hang on, but who the hell who the hell what what what are you doing now? 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.640 What what what is that about? 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.920 Ivan Carter was famously difficult to uh be with and around as well. 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:39.599 Um and um I remember him being interviewed about this uh he had a a an album Life Life in a Scots sitting room volume two and the interviewer was trying to be you know sort of jolly him along and it wasn't really working. 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.480 But he said, Why why why have you called it volume two? 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.799 There's no there's no volume one. 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.039 Why is it why have you called it? 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:54.720 He said, Well, I like to think of it as a slice sliced loaf of bread. 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:05.039 Well you take out a uh a slice and put the crust back to keep it fresh. 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.160 Brilliant the interviewer couldn't really have an answer. 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:11.680 That's very profound, isn't it? 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:12.720 Yeah, it's very profound. 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:18.240 But uh still trying to picture a uh a sliced loaf and taking the slice out and. 00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:21.039 Never mind. 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:21.519 No, I do. 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:22.240 No, I don't know. 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:24.079 Oh, I eat the cross. 00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.720 No no my loaf of bread that I used for lunch. 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:30.079 I did that. 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:31.599 But it'd be the wrong size. 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:33.839 Well, that doesn't seem to matter. 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:34.720 It keeps it fresh. 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:36.240 I agree with either. 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:37.200 Only a bit of it. 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.319 I agree with either. 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.920 Well, if you unpick the metaphor too much, I think it does you're right, it does fall apart. 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:43.759 Perhaps the interviewer should have pointed that out to him. 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:44.720 But it doesn't keep it fresh. 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.279 Did he explain only the majority of it fresh? 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:53.599 Did he explain why volume two uh had an episode six? 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:55.599 Were th were there five other episodes? 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:57.680 Uh I think there was eleven episodes. 00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:58.799 Ah. 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.400 And you've chosen episode six, which is your favourite. 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:03.039 Indeed. 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:04.720 Can you tell us why? 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.839 Wait till you wait till you hear it, listen. 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.359 Yeah, and I think it's the sing-along nature of it. 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:18.559 Uh the toe-tapping um anthemesque uh uh chorus. 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.799 We're gonna be pogoing round the studio to this one. 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:28.640 Is it a good time to say anyone who was thinking about going and making a cup of tea and then coming back, uh that they've got exactly three minutes and ten seconds to do. 00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.359 Well, he

John John Peel was a big fan. 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:36.079 Huge fan. 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:37.119 Um yeah. 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.039 So should we play it? 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:40.880 Let's play Ivor Cutler, look. 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.839 Life in a Scotch Sitting Room 2, episode six. 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:06.799 Scotland gets its brains from the herring, said Grandpa, and we all nodded our heads with complete incomprehension. 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:18.000 Sometimes, for a treat, we got playing with their heads, glutinous, burny affairs without room for brains, and a look of lust on their narrow soprano jaws. 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:25.200 The time I lifted the lid of the midden on a winter night, and there, a cool blue gleam. 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.519 Herring heads. 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:33.680 Other heads do not gleam in the dark, so perhaps Grandpa was right. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:47.599 To make sure we ate the most intelligent herring, he fished the estuary, planted a notice, littered it herring this way, below the water line, at the corner where it met the sea. 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.279 The pint for the notice was made of crushed heads. 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:09.599 A few feet brought them within the confining friendliness of his manila net, and a purposeful end. 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.199 There was only one way to cook it. 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:21.679 A deep batter of porridge left from breakfast was patted round, and it was fed onto the hot griddle athwart the coal fire. 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:28.320 In seconds, a thick aroma leaned around and bent against the walls. 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.760 We lay down and dribbled on the carpet. 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.320 Also, the air was fresher. 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.880 Time passed. 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:45.039 In exactly 25 minutes the porridge cracked, and juice steamed through with a glad fizz. 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:55.199 We ate the batter first to take the edge off our appetites so that we could eat the herring with respect, which we did, including the bones. 00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:01.519 After supper, assuming the herring to have worked, we were asked questions. 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:07.840 In Latin, Greek, and Hebrew, we had to know the principal parts of verbs. 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:19.119 In geography, the five main glove manufacturing towns in the Midlands, and in history, the development of Glasgow's sewage system. 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.840 There's nothing quite like a Scotch education. 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.360 One is left with an irreparable debt. 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.960 My head is full of irregular verbs still. 00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.239 And I think I've achieved that in the studio this afternoon. 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:11.360 Well, anyone who missed the beginning of that track uh might be wondering who it was, and it was the excellent Ivor Cutler and one of his better tracks, and that was Life in a Scotch Sitting Room 2, episode

6. 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:18.880 Now, Ant is into poetry, and I think we can agree Ivor is a po have you done any of Ivor's Is one of your poems ever been in Ivor Cutler? 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:27.360 I've done an Ivor Cutler, but I did book him when I very first came to Colchester Art Centre in 1992 to come and uh perform, but he was unwell. 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:28.480 Told to cancel. 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.039 Uh but he was on the front of the brochure for a while. 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:32.960 Ivory. 00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:39.440 Last time I think I saw him was at John Peel's Meltdown at the South Bank. 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:54.960 Uh and uh uh you know, he had his little uh um harmum and was doing his stuff, but there was a kid in the audience, I think it was a baby crying, and he was like really angry about it, and he said, Well someone take that child out of the room. 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.360 Uh because he was also the uh president of the noise abatement society. 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.079 Oh, excellent. 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:08.719 Well when he wasn't available for that geek at the art centre, could you have not reached out to Iva Biggin and the Red Nose Burglars? 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:10.559 Very similar articles. 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:12.960 Had you suggested at the time, Steve. 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:14.320 The Winkers who knows. 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:15.440 Yeah. 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:20.239 Now and and got into poetry, I think, d mostly during COVID, didn't you? 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.079 Yeah, I read it oh well, yeah, eight years. 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:31.039 Because um you promised that you would um not shave and also do a poem a day for every day of COVID or lockdown. 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.719 I thought it would last three weeks. 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.280 And it lasted five hundred and thirty-two pounds. 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:36.960 So that was five hundred and thirty two. 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:38.320 Five hundred and thirty-two pounds. 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.239 And I had a beard that could like really almost came down to my knees. 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:52.719 And when I used to visit my ninety-seven-year-old mother at the uh uh care home, they mistook me for her husband on two separate occasions. 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:54.480 Is your good lady wife? 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.559 And when I tell that story, I thought well well, your mother must have been very sprightly. 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:08.559 No she was far from sprightly, she'd had two strokes by then, had to be fed, and uh was um dribbling into a lap, really. 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.639 I did see a video of you earlier when I was doing a bit of research on Dr. 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:13.679 Anthony Roberts. 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:21.039 And I saw a video of you offering to uh recite poetry to people that were feeling a little bit down during the COVID. 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.400 Oh, that was right at the start, wasn't it? 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:22.719 Yeah. 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.400 Yeah, you soon got over that. 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.159 Yeah, there was no beard in that video. 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:27.679 So it must have been right at the beginning of the yeah. 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:34.159 He had a ceremonial shaving off of the beard when we opened the um Art Centre's new toilets. 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:35.280 Yeah, that's wrong. 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:36.719 What did you do with the beard? 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.119 I gave it to a puppeteer, actually. 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.519 Uh Andy Lawrence, Theatre of Widdishons comes every year and does the puppet show. 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.679 Uh and he said good night of the beard. 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:52.719 So uh the plaided beard was delivered to him and he promises to make a puppet featuring the uh facial hair of Dr. 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:53.440 Anthony Roberts. 00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:54.320 I haven't seen it yet. 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.920 But sounds like it's uh As popular as I'm still in the works. 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:04.159 Our producer's face, I've never this is the first episode when he has he looks as quite funny some most of the time. 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:05.280 He's visibly wince. 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.960 He is wincing, and what is going on in my studio, he's thinking. 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.159 We'll probably find out it's the only chat he's ever liked that he plays. 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.559 We've never found his musical taste. 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.719 No, we we keep meaning to ask him, don't we? 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.000 No, not really. 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.159 Shall we get back on to the subject of Cortinas? 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:21.039 Cortinas. 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:25.840 Now, the great thing about there are many great things about this podcast, Steve, aren't there? 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.440 One of the greatest things I've found is rediscovering the Tom Robinson band. 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:29.840 Oh. 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.159 I forgot what a great band they were. 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.719 And Power in the Darkness is a fantastic album. 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.679 You're gonna have to ease up because there's gonna be more Tom Robinson band songs on this podcast than there are Stiff Little Fingers. 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:41.519 That'd be impossible because we play Stiff Little Fingers every week. 00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:42.320 Every week, yeah. 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:46.800 Yeah, but it's great to go back and see if I get to tell my Tom Robinson story now. 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:49.679 Tell your Tom Robinson story now before we play this great thing. 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:57.119 So we like to go to my wife and I like to take the Euro star uh annual holidays to where we went on uh honeymoon allele. 00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.679 And that's the first stop that you get to on there. 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.960 Anyway, we were so we

were in the uh waiting lounge. 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:06.960 You go up to the platform uh at uh St. 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:13.679 Pancras and um there was a guy next to us designing C Ds, you know, with a guitar and everything. 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.320 And I'm not chatty, but my wife is. 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:19.360 Designing C D's with a guitar. 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.039 Incredible that we bought a tooth on the back of it. 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.920 You know the guitar thing is with someone else. 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.039 And uh it was kind of vaguely familiar. 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:33.519 Anyway, my wife said, Are you the are you Tom Robinson? 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:37.199 And he said, Well yeah and she said, Are you the Tom Robinson? 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.559 And he said, Well, I'm not Tommy Robinson. 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.199 Thank goodness Which I was you should have been disappointed then. 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:46.719 Oh what a shame. 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.719 It's an interesting uh similarity there, because you couldn't find two different people, could you? 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.119 Tom is very liberal and socialist in his outlook. 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.880 Whereas Tommy Robinson isn't. 00:40:59.119 --> 00:40:59.360 No. 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:03.679 So it was two, four, six, eight Euro star. 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.159 You don't think Tommy Robinson's a kind of like tribute to uh Tom Robinson, do you? 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.639 I don't think so, and I I don't think we'll be inviting him to alternative culture. 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:16.159 Well he's a Luton fan for a star. 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:17.920 Yeah, well what Tommy Robinson? 00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.320 Yeah I didn't know that's makes it one worse. 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:22.480 Hang on. 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:27.840 Uh Nigel Pearson, Hayden Mullins again, Vladimir Ivitch. 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:28.639 Oh, he was useless. 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:29.920 Zisko Munoz. 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:31.199 Terrible, he had to go. 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.239 Claudio Ranieri won the premiership. 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:35.519 Disgrace he was. 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:36.239 Get him out. 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.199 Roy Hodgson, who's now back in management with Bristol City. 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:41.039 Disgrace. 00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:42.079 Is he still around? 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:43.039 Roy Hodgson. 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.920 He's just been appointed as Bristol City's manager at 78. 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.920 And talking of 78, I think this record came out in 78. 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.280 So let's hear tenuously. 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.079 Oh yeah and 1981. 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:03.679 But did I misunderstand? 00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:05.199 Is there a theme to today's programme? 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:06.559 Well the cortina. 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:07.440 Oh, I see, right. 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:08.159 Oh yes, I see. 00:42:08.239 -->

00:42:09.599 That's how it fits in with the cortina. 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.400 And this is Grey Cortina by the Tom Robinson band. 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.239 Didn't your brother have a brown cortina? 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.400 He did, I'll tell you about that after the track. 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:31.519 Tom Robinson Band and ending the song in typical punk rock fashion with a great ending. 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:33.039 Grey Cortina. 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:34.480 Fantastic song, Steve. 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:35.119 Yeah, brilliant song. 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:36.159 Tongue in cheek, I think. 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.639 Yeah, nice and short, snappy, catchy. 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:39.440 Love it. 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:39.679 Brilliant. 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:45.119 They will never forget it. 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.280 What about your brother's brown cortina? 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.599 Yes, my brother's brown cortina was a dreadful car. 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:50.079 Really? 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:51.039 It kept breaking down. 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.199 I mean he's not a good driver, my brother. 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.639 He had a few pranks and it was a rust bucket. 00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:57.760 But he did give me a few. 00:44:59.280 --> 00:44:59.519 Rust. 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:03.440 It was brown and rust. 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.119 What on the inside or outside? 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:06.639 Both, yes. 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:07.840 What colour of brown though? 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:08.719 What shade of brown? 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.360 Um you know when you're really ill? 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.960 Dog mess brown. 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:13.679 Oh, I see. 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:15.199 I'd call it. 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.719 I I had to choose my words carefully carefully there. 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:20.559 Yes, it wasn't a great car. 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.639 Matthew will no doubt tell me that it was a great car. 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:26.880 Just by a bad driver. 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:31.280 But Grey Cortina, I thought Grey Cortina was much better than his brown cortina. 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:38.480 So we don't lose track of where this show's going, um and and keeping in with the Cortina theme. 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:39.039 Go for it. 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:43.679 Um and we're getting daggers from the producer, I think he's got to be out in four hours. 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:52.159 So um uh if we could just uh have a little bit of a speedy s side of the of the show and uh get it all back on track. 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.079 Uh another Cortina song. 00:45:54.159 --> 00:46:12.159 Unfortunately, I am gonna have to tell you a little bit about the Salford Jets who sing this next one, Gina, brackets I've got a Cortina, close brackets, because um the Salford Jets actually had um sessions on Radio One with Peter Powell, Kid Jensen, and Mike Reed. 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.039 Are any of those still um uh not

in prison? 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.079 Urrh don't know, I'll have to check that. 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:22.079 But um they did have a minor hit with who you looking at. 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:22.880 Do you remember that? 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:23.360 No. 00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:24.960 You have to go and listen to that. 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:26.880 I think you will know it if you if you hear it. 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:32.480 But let's hear a Cortina song, Gina brackets. 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.760 I've got a Cortina, close brackets, bottles all for Jets. 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.960 Me and Gina didn't have a car. 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.199 So me and Gina couldn't go far. 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.199 Well now it's all turned. 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:52.960 Oh okay. 00:46:55.599 --> 00:48:48.239 Just listen to what I say, but I'm gonna go to the back. 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.280 Manchester's very own Salford Jets. 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:44.800 Oh, is that where they're from, is it? 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.840 Yeah, I think the name's in the the clue's in the title, isn't it? 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:48.639 Great song. 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:58.159 They made so many good songs of Sulford Jets and uh yeah, just didn't get anywhere near the recognition they deserved as as uh lots of punk banders can uh say that. 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:06.000 Um Right, it's um Ant's uh next choice, and he's actually chosen something extremely good. 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:06.800 Sensible. 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:07.360 Yeah. 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:07.920 Yeah. 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:09.280 I take it back. 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:10.159 Hang on. 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:17.119 Rob Edwards, Slavin Billlich, Chris Wilder, Valerian again. 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:18.719 Well he had to go, obviously. 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.519 Tom Cleverly Oh Tom Cleverly, terrible. 00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:34.000 Paolo Petzolano, an embarrassment, Javi Garcia again, awful, Charlie Daniels, caretaker, caretaker, rubbish, and the current manager, Ed Still. 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.159 In embarrassment to everyone. 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.360 Did they say to him Keep your head still? 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:41.119 Because I'd love them to say that. 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:43.519 Well he's still in the job. 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.719 Well well he might not be, it's ten past three. 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:48.719 Right, the yachts. 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:50.559 And tell us about this song. 00:50:50.880 --> 00:51:04.079 Well, I told you I wanted to choose one by a band that sort of like disappeared altogether, um, pretty much after punk, because that's one of the great things about uh punk that I liked was that uh the band could sort of like pop up and then um disappear. 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:17.840 You didn't have to kind of like have a career that took you to the west coast of America or took you on to kind of like and there was a band uh I heard Paley talking on the radio once and he was saying that he'd bumped into one of the bands that he did on one of his sessions and said, Oh well, how's the band going? 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:30.880 Oh no, you know, we didn't not uh we uh well we got on your radio show and then um uh that was kind of like what we wanted to do, so we kind of like uh did something else and that was kind of like a refreshing attitude, isn't it? 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.800 That's like you know, encompass what tomorrow. 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:42.880 Yeah, and it's like uh and and this is a very jolly little uh kind of track, but a kind of like uh stiff records of course. 00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:58.400 Uh and it has all the kind of like it's a bit in the same kind of bracket as the uh as the Jonathan Richmond tracker to uh chose early on as a kind of like uh a kind of joy and a kind of simplicity about it, which was just so refreshing. 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:02.880 So this is suffice to say, by the yachts. 00:52:14.239 --> 00:53:47.119 Yups straight to your heart I'm just a young romantic food I wrote this specially for you Although the rhyme is not like It's quite a scampy little too I'm sure you like the little steel It's shot, sweet too save you survived to say you can say surprise to say So what you think it is so far You know I would you never be a big I never meet the day So we just have to be out there's an instrumental break Suffice to say you love me I can say that I think Suffice to say I love you You know four weeks is much too long Four weeks alone What can I do? 00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:57.760 On the streets bereft of you What's a lonely man supposed to do? 00:54:00.000 --> 00:55:23.360 Oh I've been needing you badly You know I'd be missing you sadly If you leave Say you always think I'll be Why then Won't you let me see the moment you speak to you for you I love me It's like you I'm sure you like the closest too It's my sweetest too It's that I love you Suffice to say me can say that I baby Suffice to say I love you too Suffice to say you love me Can say that I baby Suffice to say I love you Great choice Aunt the yachts and suffice to say love that we were all saying the keyboards reminded us of the Stranglers and Dave Greenfield and lovely track. 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.599 You could actually say it reminded you of the doors, though, couldn't you? 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.800 Oh, the doors, well the Stranglers will be accused of um aping the doors, but I think stranglers are much better than that. 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:31.679 Oh yeah, definitely. 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:39.519 So while that track was on, Steve talked about the box set that he's got of the art, which he's never listened to at all. 00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:40.239 Never opened. 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:41.039 Never opened at all. 00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:50.400 No, because my good friend Mark Brennan, who does listen to the show and um he's a massive football fan, and he is the godfather of punk rock releases. 00:55:50.639 -->

00:55:53.920 Um It's not the Mark Brennan that used to play fruits with. 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:57.920 No, but he did text me yesterday and saying, You do know that Mark Brennan used to play for you. 00:55:59.519 --> 00:55:59.599 Yeah. 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:16.000 Uh I don't know what this Mark Brennan's uh left foot is like, but he's uh he had a a label for twenty odd years called Captain Oi Records and um Captain Oi Records, yeah, great, great and they've been purchased in recent years by Cherry Red Records. 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:28.000 Yes one of them, probably Cherry Red, because the yachts probably wouldn't fall completely in the Captain Oi camp, um, did a box set and he s sent me a promotional copy of it. 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:29.440 So I do need to open it. 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:30.079 Sorry, Mark. 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:31.840 I know you're listening, I will open it. 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:34.320 And I know you keep telling me how good the yachts are as well. 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.280 So I'm and and if Mark Brennan, the X Ipswich player, is listening. 00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:38.239 Good on you, Mark. 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:40.639 You had a few good games with the town and a great left foot. 00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:44.400 Perhaps you should keep it unopened though, a bit like Well, Mark's left foot. 00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:44.880 Yeah. 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:45.760 The box set. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.480 Oh, it'll be a bit like more valuable. 00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:52.960 Yeah, more valuable than like uh Ivor Cutler's uh loaf of bread. 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:54.559 You could keep it fresh. 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.199 Are you sure they were called the yachts? 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.360 Because in Monty Python there is a Mr. 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:00.639 Luxury Yatched. 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:01.599 Oh is there? 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:05.199 Why would that cast uh doubt on whether they were called the yacht? 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:06.559 Oh, could they call the yacht? 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:09.679 Yes, Mr. 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:10.719 Luxury Yatched. 00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:12.000 Is in Monty Python. 00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:12.400 Right. 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:13.519 So they weren't called the Yatch. 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:15.840 Well uh they've never been pronounced as the Yatch. 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:17.840 They were definitely the Yachts. 00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:21.360 Well, they've been referred to, but you raise an interesting point. 00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:22.960 I we I think we should put this to them. 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:24.719 Would Mark Brennan know? 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.280 He would know, but I can already know what his answer would be. 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.400 Hello, I've never opened your box set and are you the yacht? 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:37.760 If any of the yachts are listening, I am I am going to open that box set when I get home. 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.599 No spoiler, you'll spoil it. 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:41.840 The promise of what's in it would be ruined. 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:49.440 The thing is I don't need to open them because what I I like to look at all the packaging and everything, and then I then I just stream things on uh Spotify. 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.000 Now we're key well we've done telephone. 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:53.840 We've done a lot of Watford stick. 00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.599 I'm not talking about Ipswich Town this week because of Farage Gate. 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.840 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say anything because I'm so angry about it. 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:02.719 You just did. 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:03.760 Oh yeah. 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.280 Uh Luke's refusing to say anything about it because he he might get in trouble. 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.440 Well, we're trying to keep politics out of the show. 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:12.400 Well, and we just weren't trying to keep politics out of our club. 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:13.519 That was the trouble. 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.599 Uh has no other politician visited Portman Road? 00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:30.639 Not not like the that Farage got with shirts with his number and name on the back, and here's the dressing room, here's the press suite, and say what you like and then exploit it to the hilt, they didn't. 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:31.920 You're getting me angry, Steve. 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:33.519 Well, a lot a lot of football fans. 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.199 Spectacular own goal. 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:42.639 A lot of football fans are calling for a twelve-point deduction, and I I'm I'm actually in favour of that. 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:44.960 Yeah, but you would as a Cole U fan, wouldn't you? 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.519 We'd probably still be in a playoff position. 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.199 Uh but then they would appeal it and make it an 18-point deduction. 00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.000 Yeah, because they've got it in for it switched out at the right. 00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:56.800 We had a bit of fun on Saturday when there was the international break. 00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:02.480 This is the the game against uh Walsall where you messaged me afterwards said season's over. 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:03.199 Yeah. 00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:09.119 But we had a we had a ten minute interlude because there was a drone flying over the pitch. 00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:11.119 It wasn't the drones, they punk ban the drones. 00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:12.239 Unfortunately not. 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:22.719 It was an actual drone, and rather than all trying to um take cover in case it was Russian, Chinese, Iranian, or all of the above, we were all trying to get a good look at it. 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:24.079 Um except the players. 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:28.239 They were all taken off the field for their own safety while the fans were just left to their own devices. 00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:29.519 Their suspect devices. 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:32.400 That

probably is. 00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.480 We've had dogs interrupt uh uh football matches at Colster, famously. 00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:37.440 Yeah, chick baits. 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:37.920 Yeah. 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.079 Brentford got cog ended his career. 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:40.559 The dog? 00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:41.760 What happened? 00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:47.519 A dog ran on the pitch, attacked Brentford's goalie, Chick Bates, and ended his career. 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:49.280 Well, ended the goalie's career. 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:49.440 Yeah. 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:51.280 Why by by biting him? 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.480 He collided with his knee, never played football again. 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:56.320 The dog or the chick baits. 00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:59.280 What so the injury was so terrible. 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:00.880 We shouldn't laugh. 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.000 Jerry Harrison was commentating on this for match of the week. 01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:04.159 Right. 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:05.519 Because it was a match of the week game. 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:05.920 Yeah. 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:07.519 Costaby Grimsby was it? 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:08.800 Remember when they said Brentford. 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:17.119 Remember when they used to read out the results and they'd say um snow stop abandoned uh snow stop play or wind stop play. 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:19.760 Did they ever think they'd have to say drone stop play? 01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:20.960 Drone stop play, yeah. 01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:21.599 Good point. 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:23.440 Can I just rewind it a bit? 01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:30.000 So you thought it was a military potentially a military yeah, and the first place they're going to attack is Colchester. 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:31.840 Seems a reasonable place to start. 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:40.639 It's a garrison city and there was no premiership or championship games on, and it was the high attendance of Colchester. 01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:47.760 Well, it's the players, the same amount of players on the pitch, and then they would have caused um I think it was probably a South End United drone. 01:00:48.239 --> 01:01:03.119 Well, had that drone had done its job properly, they'd have seen that Colchester should have won the game because it's been proven that Samson David's shot that was allegedly cleared off the line went over the line by about a foot of the clearly over the line. 01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.480 They don't have goal line technology in Leagues One and Two, Luke. 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:07.679 I know we have it in the Champo. 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:09.679 I assume they had it in League One and Two. 01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.000 I think the clubs have to fund it, I think. 01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.079 Oh yeah, well, Cowling wouldn't do that. 01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:16.320 No. 01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:17.599 No, no, no, no. 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:18.960 It's his club, not our club. 01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:20.800 No, absolutely, as we heard Larry Night. 01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:33.119 Do you think the drone was trying to do that, to try and bring its own sort of like DIY goal line technology into play? 01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:34.000 Possibly. 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:43.840 I remember Joe Garner scored a goal for Ipsy Twitch, and nobody realised it was a goal until the referee looked at his thing on his on his wrist and pointed to the halfway line and we went delirious. 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.320 Oh, because he got a buzzer to telemetry across the line. 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.239 And no nobody in the stadium thought it was. 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.079 I mean that can't cost much to do that, can it? 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:58.320 No, you could just get your drone, get a drone out, you know, and and you could, you know, you could rewrite history like the like Senegal versus. 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.440 You're not legally allowed to fly over over people. 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:03.599 Crowds of over 2,000, sorry to get on. 01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:05.119 Have you just Googled it? 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.119 No, because I've got a drone licence. 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:08.000 Oh wow. 01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:09.360 That's another thing with that. 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:10.400 It wasn't you, was it? 01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:12.719 No, because I wouldn't fly over a few. 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.599 Do you need a licence to fly a drone? 01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:20.159 Uh I mean this could that could take yeah, you do. 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:23.599 It depends on the weight of the drone. 01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.480 That's reminding me of another Python sketch with the fish licence. 01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:29.280 Oh not catching me out there. 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:30.320 Was there a big fight in the game? 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:31.360 Eric Harper B. 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:32.960 Colchester game, was there? 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:35.119 There was also a big fight after the drone. 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.159 There was a big fight as well, which Yeah, I saw it made the news, didn't it? 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:39.280 Why? 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:39.760 Yeah. 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:42.400 People weren't upset about the goal that wasn't given. 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:44.559 Oh so it wasn't Colchester and Warsaw fans. 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:46.639 No, it was Colester fans fighting each other. 01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:50.400 Shall we move on? 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:51.760 Let's move on to swindle. 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:52.880 Well we haven't actually spoken. 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:54.000 What was the fight then? 01:02:54.079 --> 01:03:00.960 There was a fight between two one set of of the Colchester United fans thought it wasn't a goal, so they attacked another set of what I've got. 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.519 From what I can gather, it happened it happened in the hospitality area. 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:09.599 Isn't that where you are? 01:03:10.239 -->

01:03:16.960 Yeah, but we watch the game, but there is obviously hospitality people that just go for hospitality and not football, and I think that's where it occurred. 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:18.960 And they wonder why we don't care. 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:25.119 We haven't spoken about uh bands with the the an X in the title for a little while, have we? 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:25.599 No. 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:26.960 We've got one coming now. 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:27.519 Oh, have we? 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.199 Swindon's Finest, which I mentioned the other week when we weren't even playing them. 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:31.840 Mr. 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:32.559 Partridge. 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:33.519 Yeah, Andy. 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:34.639 Andy, yeah. 01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:37.440 Why didn't he stop why did he stop performing? 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:38.719 The Partridge Family. 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:40.159 Stage Fright. 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:42.480 Andy Partridge of XTC stopped performing. 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:43.840 He was in the Partridge family. 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:45.280 No, that was David Cassidy. 01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:45.679 Oh. 01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:46.239 Yeah. 01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:47.599 Sounds like Andy Partridge. 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:48.719 Andy Partridge, yeah. 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:51.679 I think their musical differences would have not kept them together longer. 01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:53.039 Nah, I went to see XTC. 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:53.840 I saw them a few times. 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:54.400 Brilliant. 01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:57.199 You've just had Terry Chambers XTC. 01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:59.760 XTC on at the Art Center. 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:00.239 Yeah. 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:00.880 Brilliant. 01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:07.519 What would happen if there was a guy who'd been in XTC, Generation X, and XSLF? 01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:09.599 Or what could his band be called? 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:10.320 X. 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.239 X SLF Generation X. 01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:15.119 XTC. 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:16.400 Generation X. 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:17.360 Yes. 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:18.880 I'd buy a ticket. 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:20.719 Let's hear. 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.440 I saw though, I have to say I taught XTC here in a 78 at the university. 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:26.159 Oh, I did too. 01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:26.800 They were brilliant. 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:27.199 Yeah. 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.159 And this is my favourite XTC track. 01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:31.679 This is Pop. 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:54.559 Stop there. 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:20.960 XTC, this is Pop Wonderful Song, and Swindon's finest, as I say, and I just regaled Stephen Ant with my story of my one visit to the county ground Swindon. 01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:25.280 We Ipswich Town were 2-0 down, ten minutes to go, and we won 3-2. 01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:28.000 I know Dalian Atkinson got one of the goals. 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:30.159 Zondervan, I forget who scored the other one. 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:31.760 Oh, tell us, it's such a great story. 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:32.880 It's a great story. 01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:33.280 Yeah. 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:35.760 So you were there and they were 2-0 down. 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:37.840 And we won 3-2 with 10 minutes to go. 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:40.880 We don't normally edit bits out of the show. 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:42.480 No, bring back I have a cut. 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.800 Remind me which major trophies Watford and Colchester have won. 01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:47.119 Yeah. 01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:48.239 Watney Cup. 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:48.880 Simply won. 01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:49.920 Watney Cup. 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:51.280 And you beat Leeds. 01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:53.119 That's it, isn't it? 01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:54.960 We won the FA trophy. 01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:57.440 That's for non-league clubs. 01:07:57.599 --> 01:07:58.000 We won the. 01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:00.480 Do you think it's a badge of honour winning trophies? 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:02.719 FA Cups UA for Cup. 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:04.480 The premiership as was. 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.119 How many managers has Ipswich sacked? 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.079 This is the criteria by which the greatness of a football club should be a good thing. 01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:11.920 We're not a sacking club. 01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:12.960 You're going run down. 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:14.719 Well, that's where you're going wrong, isn't it? 01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:16.000 This is this is it. 01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:19.840 Clearly, we've got we've had more ex-England managers than you, I think. 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.479 We are Bobby Robson and Alf Ramsey. 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:26.079 Sound like one of these West Ham fans that says they won the they won the World Cup. 01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:30.720 From a Cole Yu fan, tell us about when you were tell us about when you were 2-0 down. 01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:32.880 That that that's such a great story. 01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:33.279 Yes. 01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.520 2-0 down ten minutes ago, we won 3-2. 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:36.319 I was overjoyed. 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:39.199 Ipswich ladies played on their own ground this week. 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:40.159 And we lost. 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:41.600 We lost to Southampton. 01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:43.520 Didn't play at Colchester United. 01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:44.800 Because you were playing. 01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:47.359 At 10,000 apparently. 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:47.760 Yeah. 01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:52.000 We we got double the crowd for our women than Cole U got for their men's too. 01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:53.119 Because it free to get in. 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:54.720 No! How much of it? 01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:55.279 Is it free? 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.119 Look, do you know if the women charge? 01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:58.000 Uh it was. 01:08:58.479 --> 01:08:59.840

When they played at Felix Day, they did. 01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.359 Yeah, this weekend it was uh was it under eights went free, I think. 01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:05.279 They have to pay, see, adults have to pay. 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.680 The kids went free, but then the adults 10 quid or something like that. 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:10.800 10 quid. 01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.079 There was a business uh event there, wasn't there? 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:19.840 All in the morning they had a business breakfast and then people got to see the ladies play as well. 01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:23.039 Because some of the people in our box had been there for the breakfast. 01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:24.479 They said the breakfast was excellent. 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:25.119 Good. 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:26.079 We do something right. 01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.279 Oh, I love getting sick from a car. 01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:34.239 So last Saturday, Tim. 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:34.800 Yes. 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:36.319 No trains. 01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:38.079 Oh the Saturday before last. 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:38.399 Yeah. 01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.000 When we talked if Little Fingers. 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:40.319 Yeah. 01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:41.359 Oh, you loved this, didn't you? 01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:42.720 Bus replacement service. 01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:43.199 Yes. 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:53.600 Um but it didn't put us off because I drove to Newbury Park only to find out that the rail replacement buses were all using the car park at Newbury Park. 01:09:53.840 --> 01:10:02.479 So I had to go into the park in the side street, walk back to the tube station, to get the tube into uh Camden to see stiff little fingers. 01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.039 But as we said, we'd have walked there, wouldn't we? 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:07.840 Well I'd identified Golders Lane. 01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:09.680 Golders Green, wouldn't it? 01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:16.000 Golders Green as an ideal place to park uh three stops from the venue. 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:16.560 Yes. 01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:30.960 Um But my wife and her sister and her husband and my sister-in-law and brother-in-law uh said they could park at we could park at Woodford Green Fire Station. 01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:32.479 Woodford Green Fire Station. 01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:33.039 Yeah. 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:40.960 Which was then a half an hour walk to the tube station and then a four-hour tube journey to Camden. 01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:42.800 And uh so we did that way. 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:43.840 I got overruled. 01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:46.479 Yeah, and you never you didn't mention it though, did you? 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:47.439 I didn't mention it once. 01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:49.439 Not after the gig, he wasn't mentioning it at all. 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.199 That's true, I did not mention it once. 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.039 We could we could be home by now. 01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:56.239 Have you not used the Elizabeth Line yet? 01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:58.239 Do you know the Elizabeth Lion exists? 01:10:58.399 --> 01:10:58.800 Yes, yes. 01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:00.239 We're not that old. 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:03.520 Three grandads sitting here, aren't they? 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:05.279 Shenfield, it runs from, don't we? 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:10.880 Or Brent Brentwiddle Shenfield, you can get the I've parked there before, just got the Elizabeth Line straight. 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:12.319 Why didn't you tell us if we do that? 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:14.239 Why didn't we uh does it go to, though? 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:15.119 All the way through. 01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:16.479 It goes all the way through to Heathrow. 01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:17.680 Yeah, but that's no good. 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:18.399 We were going to Camden. 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:20.880 No, but it it goes straight through the middle. 01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:23.439 So you can get off and get on another tube, you see. 01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:24.319 We could have done that. 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:25.119 I'm gonna do that next time. 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:26.880 Thanks for telling us. 01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:28.479 Mornington Crescent. 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:29.039 Yes. 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:29.920 Have I won? 01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:30.880 Yes, of course. 01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:32.319 Do you get that reference, Steve? 01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:33.359 Mornington Crescent. 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:35.439 A lot of punk bands lived in Mornington Crescent. 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:36.880 Radio 4, he's on about. 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:38.720 It's a game. 01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:39.760 It's a game, is it? 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:40.960 Which which one's it on? 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:41.760 I'm sorry. 01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.560 They always mention Mornington Crescent as the final destination. 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:48.079 So back to the gig. 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:49.840 So thank Christ. 01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:52.159 I said I wasn't gonna do any requests. 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:52.399 Yes. 01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:59.119 And I already had my tracks ready, so there's something I had to bump the questions by the Suburban Studs. 01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:07.279 Um and this next song is an actual request, and it is for my sister-in-law, Jip. 01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:09.359 And she wants to hear lovely. 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:13.760 She wants to hear Janie Jones by The Clash. 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.199 Do you like do you like the sound of that? 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.039 It is fantastic. 01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:18.800 Well, an opening track to an album. 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:19.199 Yeah. 01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:19.920 Brilliant. 01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:25.359 It's the opening track to the best album ever released, in my opinion. 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.640 It looks inflammable material down to a close second for me. 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:31.039 Okay. 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.720 And the name of the drummer who

brings the track in is Tory Crimes. 01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:35.520 Great name. 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:36.560 Yes, absolutely. 01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:38.079 Replaced by Topper Eden. 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.880 Yeah, but Tory Crimes or Terry Chuck. 01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:45.119 Terry Chuck is now a um Tory MP. 01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:47.520 No, he's uh Tory lord? 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:49.680 He's uh He's in prison for being a Tory? 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:50.800 A practitioner. 01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:53.920 Um an osteopath. 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:57.119 That's what Terry Chimes is. 01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:57.840 He's an osteopath. 01:12:58.239 --> 01:12:58.720 Tory crimes. 01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:03.840 Uh he's very, very um prolific on Facebook. 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:09.439 So if you want to have a chat about a clash and have your back sorted, look him up. 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:10.800 Does he do it with drumsticks? 01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:12.319 Janie Jones on your back. 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.239 Yeah, and you have to love that. 01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:16.640 You have to go, oh, I'm in love with the rock and roll world. 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:18.479 Let's hear it. 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:20.960 Janie Jones by the Clash. 01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:48.399 They gotta have fun with you. 01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:25.199 Good choice, Jip. 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:26.239 Great choice, Jip. 01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:26.960 Fabulous. 01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:32.000 And that song made reference to a grey cortina. 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:32.800 A Ford Cortina. 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:33.600 Ford Cortina. 01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:33.760 Yes. 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:35.199 They just won't run without fuel. 01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:35.520 Yes. 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:36.960 A bit like most cars now. 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:38.479 Like yours. 01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:39.279 Electric. 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:50.800 Mine, yeah, I I saw today that um people who have got diesel it's costing an extra ten pounds to fill their tanks up and I thought you don't have a diesel car. 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:51.199 Good. 01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:51.600 Yeah. 01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:52.399 Electric. 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:53.199 Absolutely. 01:15:54.079 --> 01:16:06.079 Right, so moving on swiftly to probably the most well, I thought we'd already played the most bizarre track with Ivor Cutler earlier in the show with Life in the Scotch Sitting Room 2, Episode 6. 01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:08.000 This is Ant's bonus track, isn't it? 01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:09.439 This is Ant's bonus track. 01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:10.319 We've allowed this. 01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:14.720 It falls so far out of the criteria, both in terms of time. 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:16.560 And genre. 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:18.000 Genre, everything. 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:23.840 But it is does it it's the right era in terms of punk rock, isn't it? 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:25.840 In as much as what we were all doing in the seventies. 01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:27.760 We were all sort of You were watching Dad's army. 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:28.239 We were. 01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:28.479 We were. 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.239 Come on in, and tell us about it. 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:34.239 So uh yeah, um Captain Mannering is a great hero of mine. 01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:49.199 Um someone uh I mean, you look at Captain Mannering, he's a pompous, uh bald, bespeckled, um grammar school educated, um up himself little man who uh works in the church. 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:53.119 Well why why would anything like that who are we describing? 01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:59.119 Who who would that why would I think you know why why would Why would anyone think I would like that? 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:00.239 I don't know. 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:01.920 But you love Dad's army, don't you? 01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:07.840 Arthur Lowe is like uh he's just they say people have funny bones, don't they? 01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:11.359 You can just walk round the door funny, like if you're on stage. 01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:14.079 And that chemistry between with between him and John LeMessure. 01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.479 It's like a question of all the actors. 01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:19.680 Actors and the script writers in perfect harmony. 01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:25.359 After a while the writers begin to write the characteristics of the actors who play them. 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:35.119 So Mannering gets more pompous, uh, you know, uh Sergeant Wilson and the Mes gets more um refined and irritating. 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:39.680 Brilliant. 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:44.239 And uh it's just the most beautifully constructed and wonderful piece of comedy. 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.319 In the days when we only had two channels and then three channels. 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:48.640 Yeah. 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:50.159 But the theme tune is quite interesting. 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:54.479 But the theme tune, this is the last track ever recorded by Bud Flanagan. 01:17:54.640 --> 01:18:00.000 Uh and um uh I couldn't come on any programme without asking for you to play this. 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:00.960 Let's hear it. 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.079 Let's hear Bud Flanagan, and who do you think you are kidding, Mr. 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:04.880 Hitler? 01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.359 Who do you think you are kidding, Mr. 01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:12.399 Hitler? 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:21.279 If you think we're on the We are the boys, stop your letter. 01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:24.319 We are the boys. 01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:32.800 And now a massage from the Swedish Prime Minister. 01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:43.680 You don't only get great punk rock music, you get wonderful comedy on this podcast. 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:44.720 What more could you ask? 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:51.199 I didn't know if that was uh whether that was the beginning of Janie Jones again or or or the massage from the Swedish Prime Minister. 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:53.680 Dad's army

followed by Monty Python. 01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:55.039 What more could you want? 01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.560 My I mean I love Dad's Army, but uh and everyone should. 01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:03.680 But my favourite Arthur Lowe um programme was the cable. 01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:05.920 Cable the cable car. 01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:10.960 When he gets stuck in a um a cable car lift, he's on holiday with his wife. 01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:12.000 I'm laughing already. 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:32.079 And there's the other people that stuck in the cable car are there's some French people, some German people, and he assumes control of the situation, even though there's people in this cable car that are much better suited, but he said because he's British, it's it stands to You've got to watch that. 01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:33.920 It's called the Cable Car with Arthur Lowe. 01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:35.039 Well he's a brilliant actor. 01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:40.399 I mean he was on he did Coronation Street, he was in some Lindsey Anderson films as well. 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:44.479 And he was in uh a Sherlock Holmes parody as Dr. 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.720 Watson to John Cleese's as Sherlock Holmes brilliant as well. 01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:51.920 He did a series after Dad's Army called Potter. 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:52.399 Yes. 01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:53.439 I remember Potter. 01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:54.079 Do you remember that? 01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:55.439 I love that. 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:57.279 I thought that was so funny. 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:05.039 Well the good thing about that is we would we would remember it because when you'd go out to work the next day and you'd say, Did you see Potter on TV last night? 01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:06.960 Then invariably people would say yes. 01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:12.399 But if you go into work or any environment now and say, Did you watch such and such thing on TV last night? 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:15.439 The chances are not, because you've got thousands of channels to choose from. 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.680 Whereas we only had three stroke four, didn't we? 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:18.800 Yeah, absolutely. 01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:19.520 Absolutely. 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:20.560 Shall we move us on? 01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:22.720 Or do you want me to do the list of Watford managers again? 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:23.520 No, probably not. 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:27.119 Um you might as well, because we're going to edit the first bit out. 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:30.239 We're going on to Leighton Buzzards. 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:39.279 Now I think we should play the track and then talk about the how the Leighton Buzzards killer went wrong after they stopped being the Leighton Buzzards. 01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:40.560 Well they'll probably say it went right. 01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:43.039 They they probably will, but it's not all about money and it's not. 01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.000 So let's hear this great track. 01:21:46.079 -->

01:21:52.399 This is Saturday Night Beneath the Plastic Palm Trees, again with brackets, by the Leighton Buzzards. 01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:23.520 Six months later, Barney's grown. 01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:27.279 I got a moist suit to call my own. 01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.800 Button-down shirt with a window pane check. 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:37.680 Growing up, I need much more. 01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:41.199 The youth club kids were such a bore. 01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:45.600 Me mate new says there's a place he knows where it's gone. 01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:51.520 Take off. 01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:09.279 Cruise from ballot and gold as green. 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:12.640 And loads of lights is of never late. 01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:16.239 The stroke of ten, the fight breaks out. 01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:23.279 He's wearing boots. 01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:26.880 Cry the gangsters dressed in dinner suit. 01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.239 The black is eyes, his nose gets bent. 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:09.279 Eddie Homan slows things down. 01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.199 You ask a girl to dance, but you get turned down. 01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:16.720 Maybe it's just another dye. 01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.600 What'd you want for five minutes? 01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:27.039 I was cold drinking ramen black, and then felt sick on the journey back. 01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:30.880 I thought stubborn right through in the board ride. 01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:34.720 Great punk band. 01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:36.640 Made some great records. 01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:37.920 So what happened? 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.800 Tell us the story about how they uh managed to implode. 01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:42.319 Oh they imploded. 01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:44.960 They they're you unlike most punk bands. 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:47.119 Your body language tells me that this is a very good thing. 01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:49.680 It has hurt me. 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:50.880 They were after money and success. 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:52.159 How do you feel about it now? 01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:53.680 I still feel very hurt by it. 01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:55.359 Because Layton Buzzers were great. 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:56.960 I wanted them to carry on being Leighton Buzzers. 01:25:57.520 --> 01:25:58.079 What happened then? 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:00.479 They became modern romance. 01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:01.199 Do you remember? 01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:04.319 Sulsa Disco Band called Modern Romance. 01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:08.159 They had hits with um oh, what do they have hits with? 01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:11.119 Um The best years of our lives and big hits they had. 01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:13.760 So the best years of our lives. 01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:16.239 The punk band that sold out. 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:16.720 Yeah. 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:19.359 That never happens, does it? 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:20.319 It's a swindle. 01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.399 But you know, the punk bands that sell out usually sell out in a good way. 01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:24.720 Yeah. 01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:29.920 This lot of being had a disco a disco salsa band. 01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:31.119 They sound good. 01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:31.760 Have we got anything? 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:32.479 They were brilliant. 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:32.800 Luke. 01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:34.479 Modern romance. 01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:36.079 Do not play them, Luke. 01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:36.800 They sound good. 01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:37.840 There was no need for them. 01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:41.600 That was a massive hit Saturday night beneath the Basti Party. 01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:43.199 For a punk band. 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:45.760 Top forty, maybe? 01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:47.520 I'd say top twenty at least. 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:48.640 Oh we'll have to anyway. 01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:51.520 So was the Was it the entire band? 01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:52.319 Two of them. 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:56.159 The two main ones in the band went and formed a modern romance. 01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:58.880 And one of them was one of them Leighton himself? 01:26:59.199 --> 01:26:59.680 No, no, no. 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:00.960 That's because they're from Leighton. 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.039 London, Leighton, not Leighton Buzzard, not Leighton Buzzards. 01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:05.600 Near Watford. 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:06.079 Right. 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:09.279 I I'm distressed about it, but that is a great song. 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.840 Saturday night, open brackets, and I'm sure to be able to do that. 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.920 Is it the Leighton Buzzards still going, or is it just Modern Romance still going? 01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:18.720 I hope not. 01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:19.920 Can we reform them? 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:20.399 No. 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:22.720 We can form reform Leighton Buzzards. 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:24.000 Ex Modern Romance. 01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:25.279 Ex Leighton Buzzards. 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:28.159 If one of them's available, we can ask them to sign that. 01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:33.680 But you're amongst thirty people at the Three Wise Monkeys, you may have a or ready-made gig at the Art Centre. 01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:35.279 Ex Modern Romance? 01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:36.079 Mark? 01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:39.359 Before I burst into tears, what's the next one, Steve? 01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:51.680 Well, well it's I'm going I'd I'd like to have links to everything we're doing and w you know, that um the Courtinas um have sparked off several songs with the word Cortina in it, or in the title or in the lyrics. 01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:56.000 But going back to the roundhouse, you said you wanted to talk about the Meffs as well. 01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:59.439 I mean they're a culture they're local boys and girls made good, aren't they? 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.279 Yeah, Lily's a collecton girl. 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:01.520 Yeah. 01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:02.319 Uh like me. 01:28:02.479 -->

01:28:03.520 I'm a collecton boy. 01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:03.680 Yeah. 01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:04.960 But she's a collecton girl. 01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:07.439 She she went to the same primary school that I went to. 01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:09.039 She went to the same St. 01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:11.439 Ben's secondary school that my kids went to. 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:14.800 So and uh I think you you could really have been the Meffs. 01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:18.640 I could have been the Meffs um if I wasn't thirty years older than her. 01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:20.319 There there are some small barriers. 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:21.039 Oh no. 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:22.560 And they're great. 01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:27.439 And um they were a bit heavy for Steve's delicate ears at the roundhouse. 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:28.000 I loved them. 01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:29.359 Me and Marky String, I loved them. 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:30.479 Yeah, they're a bit heavy for me. 01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.640 I'm really pleased how well they're doing because they're from Colchester and I think that's fantastic. 01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:37.840 I mean I like the Clacton Stroke culture. 01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:40.239 Um not Hip Switch. 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:41.600 Not Hip Switch. 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:43.119 Saw Saw them at the Arts Centre. 01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:43.439 Yeah. 01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:45.359 And um supporting Bells Cox. 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:46.560 She's a great front woman. 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:47.359 Oh brilliant. 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:59.760 And uh the work you know, to just make that amount of racket um with just guitar and other dramas is incredible because it's kind of a bass guitarist, it's a nightmare, isn't it? 01:28:59.920 --> 01:29:02.640 Because it's actually saying, Look, we don't need any bass guitars. 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:07.600 So but yeah, and they had the crowd going for a support band, the Stiff Little Fingers crowd. 01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.039 I didn't think it would be the right crowd for 'em, but I got that wrong. 01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:15.760 Um they were they they went down a storm and uh yeah, good luck to them. 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:20.159 But we were at the roundhouse, we were watching the mess and stiff little fingers. 01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:27.359 So that brings us on to our next track, which is the television personalities posing at the roundhouse. 01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:43.840 Come on to the round, they'll say, There come I kid. 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:50.640 Everyone has died a hair, everyone's dying on its suits. 01:29:51.119 --> 01:32:11.760 I will not still wear I'm always gonna wisdom I'm wasting all the wisdom When it wants to get no it's not much uh it's not much uh yeah When I skip Oh it's there Oh yeah Way Bill is there Oh yeah Oh yeah But I'll probably go to the marquee with you Posing at the Roundhouse by the fantastic television personalities now Dan Treacy was the singer and songwriter of the TV personalities or the television personalities and the when they decided on a name each member of the band came up with a suggestion and those suggestions were Nicholas Parsons, love that, Russell High, Bruce Forsyth, or Huey Green. 01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:18.800 So the band was going to be called one of those, and then they decided just put them all together and call the band television personalities. 01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:21.119 I think Huey Green would have been about another name. 01:32:21.439 --> 01:32:21.920 That's a fun fact. 01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:24.159 None of them Parsons. 01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:25.840 And none of them are controversial. 01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:34.800 None of them went on to be um 70s um I think Huey Green had a bit of a daughter as well. 01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:35.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:36.640 Yeah, but it wasn't illegal. 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:38.000 No, no, that was Jess Yates. 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:39.439 No, no, it's Paulie Yates. 01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:40.319 Paulie Yates, yeah. 01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:42.319 But Jess Shakes was Paulie Yates' dad, wasn't it? 01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:45.039 Are you sure Huey Green? 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:46.159 We're gonna have to read that. 01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:48.560 No, no, Jess Yates. 01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:51.359 Yeah, Huey Green's was a yeah. 01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:54.079 I know Jess Shaites comes into it somewhere, but hey. 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.399 Anyway, the television personality was fantastic. 01:32:57.920 --> 01:32:59.039 Oh clapometer. 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:02.079 So they formed after sexual disease. 01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:05.920 After watching the Sex Pistols, Dan Treacy went, I could do that. 01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:07.680 Huey Green's clapometer. 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:15.680 So we listened to Huey Green's clapometer, and then he went and listened to his Jonathan Richmond records and he said, We're gonna do this. 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:23.359 And they've got a real cult following the television personalities, and I'd recommend anyone who hasn't heard them to go and investigate them thoroughly. 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000 Right, we're getting to the end of the show. 01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:28.479 I didn't think we'd be saying that anytime soon. 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:31.199 I can see uh Luke Luke's falling asleep. 01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:36.399 He's it's woke him up hearing that, they've got Donald Trump over there in the middle of an important announcement. 01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:47.920 Because uh the next uh next track I I found difficult to listen to at first, but uh Ant's chosen it, so you know whatever Whatford a fan wants, we give them. 01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:54.560 Um and I said, um Ant I said to my wife Nikki, I said, Ant's chosen uh a track by Pearubu. 01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:55.920 I know Pearu Boo. 01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:59.119 She said, I thought Nikki knows a proto-punk band. 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:01.520 I said, Well, what do you know about

Pearubu? 01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:06.000 Yes, it is it's a character in a play by Albert Jerry. 01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:08.640 I I studied them, I'm doing my Nikki impressions. 01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:14.079 I studied them for for French A-level and uh and drama. 01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:14.399 Yeah. 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:23.600 Albert Jerry, because Pear Ubu is a character in a play called Ubu Roi, and uh that's where this band got their name from. 01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:26.239 I said they were a proto-punk band, uh, were they? 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:31.359 She said she didn't know anything about the band, but she knew about the character in uh in the play. 01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:32.479 Have you seen the play? 01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:33.119 No. 01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:35.439 Albert Jerry's Albert! 01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:38.479 I love the way you say it. 01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:39.439 Well, you know. 01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:40.079 I do. 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:42.880 Albert Tatloff. 01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:45.359 If you can see his little face when he's saying that. 01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:51.920 When you have a secondary school education like I had in Clacton, you learn these things. 01:34:52.239 --> 01:34:52.880 I say. 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:57.199 Because I I'm not a grammar school boy, but my school was a grammar school. 01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:59.279 The year I went it became comprehensive. 01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:00.640 I think the two are connected. 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:05.279 Well, the official genre for Pear Uboo's music is art punk. 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:08.479 So that would go nicely with um Ant. 01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:12.319 And the lead singer, David Thomas, I read about him. 01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:14.880 Was born in Cleveland, Ohio. 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:24.239 Yes, but for some reason he died in April of last year, April the twenty-third, and he's late arrest in Brighton, UK. 01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:26.000 Well I think he lived in the UK. 01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.760 I mean, one of the last gigs they put on was played in Canterbury. 01:35:29.840 --> 01:35:33.359 My mate Dave Sefton put them on at the uh Galbenkian Art Centre. 01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:36.640 And apparently they were absolutely dreadful. 01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:39.680 So why have you chosen Perubu? 01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:41.520 Well to annoy us. 01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:42.399 To annoy us? 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:42.960 Yeah, hopefully. 01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:44.720 Because it's nearly five minutes, isn't it? 01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:46.479 And the listeners, I hope. 01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:48.560 Well, it's four minutes fifty-seven. 01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:51.359 Well, I've got it down as five minutes, three seconds. 01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:55.039 Well, Luke's got it down as four minutes fifty-seven, so he's cut six seconds off. 01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:57.199 I want those six seconds back in there. 01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:58.399 You're not getting away. 01:35:58.720 --> 01:35:59.760 I've

lost more than six seconds. 01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:01.359 Sorry. 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:02.800 So why pair of it? 01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:12.159 One of the things about punk is that um uh it made you pushed you into places and ideas and sounds and things that you'd never really kind of like considered. 01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:19.359 Music was reinvented, poetry was reinvented, everything became um, like we were talking about, a kind of DIY aesthetic. 01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:30.720 And um David um Thomas described his singing as the noise that goes on constantly inside your head that you never really vocalize. 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.319 This is making the listeners really wonder I like this song. 01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:37.680 Yeah, yeah, I do like this song. 01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:39.920 And after about the fifth listen, I went to see that. 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:45.199 Uh it's a crowd. 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:48.560 After he did all that, David Thomas, he became manager of Watford. 01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:50.880 He had to be sacked from that, huh? 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:54.960 But um I went to see them at uh the electric ballroom in Canberra. 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:55.840 Oh, what a venue. 01:36:56.159 --> 01:37:06.560 And uh they were playing their um uh it was at the time of I think it was 78, the The Modern Lovers is their uh the Modern Dance was their classic album, their first album. 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:12.640 And he had a a cold chisel which which you can hear on on modern dance itself. 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:18.399 And it's like would bang this coal chisel with a huge hammer and it would fall out of his hand and onto the stage. 01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:39.600 This guy, David Thomas, is huge, he was like proper fatty, he was like a huge guy, um, with a suit with a tight tie looked like Oliver Hardy and was like sing this peculiar stuff that had this uh cultures with a hammer, it made a brilliant noise, falling and he would like walk around kind of dazed, looking for it in a peculiar way. 01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:42.960 And I thought this is genius! This is what we need. 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:43.600 This is what we're talking about. 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:47.039 And his final solution, one of their better tracks in the world. 01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:50.159 I think it's a single before their first album. 01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:54.880 And uh I just like the apocalyptic kind of like noise version of it. 01:37:55.119 --> 01:38:02.159 Plus, there's a like a a tiny section where it stops and then starts again with like kind of like a tidal wave of noise. 01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:04.880 I think I think the listeners are desperate to hear it. 01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:17.760 Yeah, well it's got a very apt title, and it is the last track, so we'll play it and then have a little um say goodbye and a thank you, and we might will you will you join us again, please, and um after we've heard it. 01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:18.800 So should we listen to it? 01:38:19.039 --> 01:38:20.640 Final solution by Peiru. 01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:26.640 Yeah, I think uh if I've managed to just uh halve the number of listeners for that entire podcast. 01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:28.640 You've done your job well, yeah. 01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:32.640 Steve was saying there's uh less people listening now than are in the room. 01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:33.359 Fewer people. 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:33.760 Yeah. 01:43:34.079 --> 01:43:34.560 Fewer people. 01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:36.960 Three three in the room. 01:43:38.399 --> 01:43:39.119 Yeah, very good. 01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:40.079 Thank you, thank you, Ant. 01:43:40.239 --> 01:43:42.399 Oh well we must must I've got to do a plug. 01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:48.479 Yeah, I think Ant and I are in the Mayor's Variety show on April the Sunday, April the 12th at the Mercury Theatre. 01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:49.760 You used to be a mayor, didn't you? 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:51.840 I was the mayor once, if I'm ever mentioned it. 01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:52.319 No. 01:43:52.560 --> 01:43:52.880 No. 01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:55.520 Um and we will be in the Mayor's Variety at the Mercury Theatre. 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:57.520 It's being hosted by the great magician Michael J. 01:43:57.680 --> 01:43:58.079 Fitch. 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.079 Ant will be playing Cardinal Fang. 01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:00.960 Cardinal Fang. 01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:02.720 And I will be playing Cardinal Biggles. 01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:03.600 Is Michael J. 01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:06.640 Fitch any relation to our producer Luke Fitch? 01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:07.920 He is shaking his head. 01:44:08.079 --> 01:44:09.600 How can he possibly know that? 01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:13.199 It's gone quiet while we'll talk about it. 01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:17.119 Why do you keep performing magic tricks, Luke? 01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:22.000 Yes, if you're nothing to do with Michael J, what's all these cards doing? 01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:25.279 Yeah, I don't think I have uh any relation to him. 01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:25.680 Okay. 01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:26.479 Might do. 01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:28.479 There are tickets available, Luke. 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:31.439 If you want to come and see Michael J, you'll be able to do that. 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:32.000 So when is he? 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:36.079 Sunday the twelfth of April in the evening, there's only about a hundred tickets left. 01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:40.800 Hold on, every time I see you, there's tickets I've got to buy, and there's only a few left. 01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:41.520 Absolutely. 01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:44.560 I've got so many things coming up, I don't even know what I'm going to. 01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:46.000 The mayor's right, you'll love the Mercury. 01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:46.479 Right. 01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:47.039 Where's it at? 01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:48.720 At the Mercury Theatre, main house. 01:44:48.960 --> 01:44:50.079 Why is it not at the Art Centre? 01:44:50.319 -->

01:44:51.760 Because the Mercury Theatre is bigger. 01:44:52.079 --> 01:44:52.399 Is it? 01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:53.359 Is it better though? 01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:54.239 No way. 01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:55.199 No way. 01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:57.920 Colchester Art Centre is my favourite venue. 01:44:58.319 --> 01:44:58.800 My man. 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:03.680 And was one of my chosen charities when I was the mayor of Colchester myself. 01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:05.199 So it's the 12th of April. 01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:06.560 It's the Mayor Charity. 01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:08.079 What is it? 01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:09.680 It's the Mayor's Variety Show. 01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:14.000 So there's there's comedy, there is singing, there is magic. 01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:16.560 Team Kinetics who were on Britain's Got Talent. 01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:17.520 Team Kinetics. 01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:22.239 Who are like diversity, do that tumbling sort of stuff and clever somersaults and stuff. 01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:26.479 It's what uh there's a woman called Colette who had a top 40 single. 01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:29.840 Rodney Appleyard assures us she had a top 40 single. 01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:32.560 A woman called Colette who had a top 40 single. 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:33.039 Yes. 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:35.119 What's stopping people buying tickets? 01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:40.960 I've performed at the Mercury Theatre to a sold-out audience as well when we did a cultist has got talent. 01:45:42.079 --> 01:45:42.560 In the main house. 01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:43.840 One of your Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:47.680 We had your um Ipswich Town um what's his name? 01:45:47.840 --> 01:45:49.760 You and Dodds by Wybrow. 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:50.640 He was on drums. 01:45:51.920 --> 01:45:55.600 Is that the one which Will Quint was the winner of in the end? 01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:56.239 Yes. 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:57.119 Yeah, it was. 01:45:57.600 --> 01:45:58.239 I was a judge. 01:45:58.399 --> 01:45:58.640 Yeah. 01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:00.479 Well, how come I didn't win? 01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:03.039 Yeah, I'll take it. 01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:05.439 Now I think about it, I voted for you, Stephen. 01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:06.800 You're lying. 01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:09.680 This is the trouble we're getting in, but I'm not sure. 01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:13.199 Okay, Arthur. 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:23.760 Um so we we we did um uh I Fought the Law, Teenage Kicks, Hound Dog, and all day and all of the night. 01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:24.319 I would vote. 01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:25.439 They were the four tracks we did. 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:26.079 Well done. 01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:27.039 I thought we were brilliant. 01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:27.279 Yeah. 01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:28.560 We got standard animation. 01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:29.760 So not from me, don't you? 01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:31.039 I'm not sure why we didn't win. 01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:33.840 Uh n I don't know why I've forgotten it entirely as well. 01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:34.960 A Tory Boy one. 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:35.520 Yes. 01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:35.840 Yeah. 01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:37.199 What did he do? 01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:39.520 Yeah, it was very good. 01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:40.319 It was very good. 01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:41.760 Sean Dyes. 01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:43.439 Jim Franco Zola. 01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:46.239 Anyway, anyway, it's been a pleasure. 01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:47.279 It's been great. 01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:48.560 Thanks for coming on, Anne. 01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:49.520 It's been a real pleasure. 01:46:49.680 --> 01:46:50.640 Uh thank you for your tuning on. 01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:53.840 You know I don't do sincerity. 01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:55.520 No, absolutely. 01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:56.960 I learn everything I know from you. 01:46:57.359 --> 01:46:58.319 They hate me. 01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:00.399 It's been wonderful. 01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:02.479 Are we going to invite him back on? 01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:04.239 Well, I think we'd have to vet his track. 01:47:04.319 --> 01:47:05.039 No, yeah, absolutely. 01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:08.000 His tracks have been different, and that's what this show's all about, being different. 01:47:09.199 --> 01:47:09.760 Luke's loved it. 01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:10.479 Luke's loved this show. 01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:11.359 It's been his favourite so far. 01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:12.000 His favourite. 01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:12.239 Yeah. 01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:13.920 It might have to split it into two. 01:47:14.319 --> 01:47:14.880 Doing another magic. 01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:18.239 Four of diamonds, I think, isn't it? 01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:18.800 No. 01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:20.960 Yeah, we're just over an hour and forty-five. 01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:23.760 Right. 01:47:23.840 --> 01:47:28.479 On that note, yes, we better do the sign-off, which is keep it punk, keep it town. 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:30.399 Keep it punk, keep it cold, you. 01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:35.119 But most of all, keep it punk, keep it alternative Colchester.