บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ BBUK: The Big Natter | Episode 6: Jail Time, "Posh" Comparisons & Is the Big Brother House Too Toxic?

always have that option, don't they? 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.360 He said, We we've been benevolent before, but now we have to. 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:41.280 Anyway, he didn't do that. 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:43.520 He just he did what he did and and that's it. 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:48.000 Yes, and then so they'll they were in jail for just over an hour and a half. 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:52.479 Yes, and I've got to tell you, right, for two rule breaks, that's a very light sentence. 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:53.360 You did seem very. 00:03:53.680 --> 00:04:00.319 May I just remind you that when I was in that series, I was in that wretch in jail for eight hours, having done nothing at all. 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:04.479 On the computer game day, Richard, you're going to be a no-player character, sit in the jail all day. 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:06.719 And it was too, it was about eight hours just sitting out there. 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.439 I bet you have a housemate who must have been very pleased. 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:21.040 Well, some of them had to come and join me eventually, when you know, and uh and actually, funnily enough, you know, Sam, who was one of our guests on here before, he came and joined me in the jail a bit later on, and we actually had our best conversation out of the whole series in the jail. 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:21.680 That's good. 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:22.399 So there you go. 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.639 And you're really good friends off the off the shows as well. 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:25.519 So that's the thing, yeah. 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:26.480 But it works out really well. 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.800 People always ask me, you know, do you get on well with everybody? 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:29.839 Do you still talk to them all? 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:31.600 And the answer is yes, I got on well with everybody. 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:32.560 Yeah, sounds great. 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:33.680 I did sound great, yeah. 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:37.759 Sam was such a uh funny person on our pod. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:44.240 So if you've not seen that, that's on our previous episode, uh Sam Sam C Smashes It. 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.000 Yeah, his stage name is Smashby. 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:46.480 Yes. 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.240 Because he's sat Sam Ashby is the name. 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.399 Uh and it's called Smashby Smashes It. 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:55.920 And it's there on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, all the regular streaming platforms, uh, and it has proved to be one of our most popular episodes. 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:57.680 It has, yes, yes, yes. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:08.240 So with Rochelle and Omar been in jail, Twinx, she came up to Rochelle to discuss the names that Rochelle has been calling her. 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.160 Yes, poor thing. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.079 What did you think of that? 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:14.639 Do you think it was necessary? 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:20.399 And because you

because Rochelle couldn't really escape, so she kind of kind of got pigeon-holed into a corner, didn't she? 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:27.360 Well, I've noticed that Twinx has a a particular um method or or process of dealing with these things. 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:38.959 And what the way it goes is she comes and starts the conversation and says something like, um, oh, uh, you know, I I really want to get to know you well and and and and become good friends and and and build a good relationship and da-da-da-da-da. 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:40.160 And you think, oh, this is all good. 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:44.399 And then she says, but I do just have to say that when you said that, you know, it really hurt me. 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.839 And I'm thinking, oh you know, it doesn't help. 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:57.120 You know, you've got it, you know, that it's it's not avoiding the issue to say let bygones be bygones, but sometimes someone has just gotta get over it. 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:04.240 Someone's just gonna have the maturity, just be big enough to say, look, someone said something, you know, life's like that sometimes. 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:05.199 Let's just forget about it. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:06.800 She always starts, yeah. 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:07.680 I've noticed that. 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:12.079 That's how I know she can't let anything go because she always does you're right, she always goes, but. 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:19.680 And as soon as I hear anybody go, but I just want to say this, I know this is not going to be the conversation that I thought it was gonna be. 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.279 Yeah, there you go, you see. 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:31.360 And we're gonna touch on a little bit other uh a little bit later on this episode about how Twinks has handled other situations as well, but I'm saying but as well. 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:36.480 And uh and the way she's handled, she just can't let anything go at all. 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.920 Because she gets very, very emotional. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:48.720 She she just tries not to show it, but she gets very emotional about the way people calling her a witch, even though she's admitted she's a witch. 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:49.519 I don't understand. 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:53.120 If you are a witch, claim it, don't get annoyed about it. 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.319 I don't understand why she's still getting upset about it. 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:01.439 It doesn't for me, it makes no sense at all now. 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:04.639 Yes, although I think people have toned that down. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:08.160 I think that that is one that has subsided a bit. 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:09.680 Yeah, but she's still hanging on to it. 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.079 Well, well she does still refer to it from time to time. 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:12.319 Yes. 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:14.480 And this is the thing, yeah, she's not letting it go. 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:24.079 So that means

she must feel awkward within herself or must know in herself that maybe this is not right then in a way. 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:29.759 Well, we're only halfway through the series, and there's still plenty of time for more things to emerge in this regard. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.040 It is, it is, it is. 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:39.360 So, yeah, I feel sorry for her because she's had a very difficult four or five days, whatnot, in the Big Brother house. 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:40.000 But yeah. 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.879 Well, and and also, you know, just when things are starting to settle down a bit, what happens? 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.759 Big Brother says, Come along to the library and let's replay some of the tapes and the recordings and everything. 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:54.480 And so everyone's got to sit there, you know, absolutely mortified seeing things they've said, things they've done. 00:07:54.560 --> 00:08:01.600 And now what happened in the last one, where Philip in particular, before the thing started, he said, Oh, whatever you're just about to say, I didn't mean it, I didn't mean it. 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.279 Like apologising before it even happened. 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:04.240 Cracked up. 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:08.079 I was laughing my head off when he did that. 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.439 Because the thing is, he doesn't want to seem like a bad guy now. 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:12.560 Well, of course he's got it. 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:18.959 Because him and Rochelle are speaking secretly about oh yeah, stick together, we've got to be like the Beckhams, that's what Rochelle said. 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:19.759 Yes, I heard that, yeah. 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:23.519 I thought for myself, oh gosh, this has become an absolute fire. 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.720 So does uh does Rochelle remind you of Posh Spice then? 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:28.160 In a way, yeah. 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:31.680 Yeah, but it's a smooth complexion, I suppose, that does it. 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:45.360 But but listen, after they'd done all those recordings and everything, and everyone had been suitably embarrassed and mortified by it all, uh then inevitably there were the ensuing conversations about, you know, you know, hidden away in a corner, well so-and-so said this and so-and-so that. 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:46.480 And did you see what they said about this? 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:47.360 And blah, blah, blah. 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:48.799 All understandable. 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.840 Nobody picked up on the elephant in the room. 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:55.840 See, now if I'd been there, I can prompt you, I know what I would have done if I'd been there. 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:59.679 Uh I would have been off to the diary room and say, Big brother, have you no heart at all? 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:06.320 All these conversations going on now because you put those recordings there on display for everyone to listen to. 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.879 Um, you know, of course it's the week of revelations, yes. 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:13.120 But you, Big Brother, are the cause of all of this turmoil. 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:23.519 And as I've been saying, ever since we started this new series of BBUK Big Matter, Big Brother wants an emotional reaction, this whole series. 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:24.000 Yes. 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.120 Everything has been about an emotional reaction. 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:33.919 Yes, in your series when you won it, yes, there were some things which caused a stir. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:34.399 Yeah. 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:36.879 But this season of the series. 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:38.240 It's another level, isn't it? 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:40.720 It is, it's it's everything is done on purpose. 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:45.600 It it really is grinding you emotionally, wearing you down, then bringing you back up. 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:47.360 Wearing you down, bringing you back up. 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:54.000 I think after the ser this series is done, I think all the housemates just need to take a little break from everything. 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:00.799 Because it's been such an up and down period in such a short period of time, that that's gonna be really rough on the mind, personally. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:02.480 Yes, oh oh yes, indeed. 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:11.039 And uh at the end you have an exit interview and they advise you that you know there can sometimes be the need for an adjustment period, you can't just step out of it and back to normal life. 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.039 Well, some people can, but not everyone can. 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:13.600 Yes. 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.080 Um so yes, yeah, but very much so. 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:25.679 But yes, because the yeah, the the the Rochelle and Philip, yeah, they their audios were quite funny. 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:35.679 We had Omar and oh Omar and Yasmin, where Yasmin said she doesn't think Rihanna and Omar will be together after the show. 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.559 And you can see on Rihanna's face, she was mortified. 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.159 She thought to herself, oh god. 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:47.600 And then Omar just seemed very frustrated or annoyed by that as well. 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:48.080 Yeah. 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:55.039 Yeah, I I I I see I see Omar is getting very irritable uh irritated by a lot of people now. 00:10:55.120 --> 00:11:04.799 I can see he's he's holding he's you can tell by his facial expressions, he's not saying it, but his facial expressions is saying, especially when he was holding Rihanna on the sofa, you can just see he was associated. 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:05.519 Yes. 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:11.360 Yeah, I mean he he's I think a lot more astute than we might give him credit for. 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:16.320 I mean, we spoke the other day about uh the fact that he knew all his history when he recited all those battles and everything. 00:11:16.480 -->

00:11:23.600 Um but then he made a very interesting point in the last episode where he said, you know, th people assume a certain thing about me because of the way I speak. 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.559 But I speak the way I do because that's how I grew up, that's the that's who I am. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:32.960 And then he said, But what if I was wearing a slick suit and had my hair all glee breeze back and everything, would you be thinking differently of me then? 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.200 And I was thinking, actually, probably yes. 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.679 People do think differently about people if they're dressed in a certain way or they speak in a certain way. 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.279 Um so yeah, so he I mean he's he seems to have his head screwed on. 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.039 Yeah, that's the he was speaking to Pauline in the snug about that. 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:47.519 That's right. 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:56.879 Yes, we could because because Pauline asked for Omar to have a discussion and they it was the first time they've actually really sat down properly in a in a good couple of weeks, actually. 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.000 And it took one-on-one. 00:11:58.559 --> 00:11:59.120 Yes. 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.320 So, yes, they they sat down together, which was nice. 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:14.960 So the reason why Pauline and Omar well Pauline actually had a massive, because I was gonna bring this up, but we kind of skipped to the you kind of skipped to the audio part. 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:23.600 I was gonna say Pauline and Katherine had that massive route at one o'clock in the morning where Big Brother had to intervene. 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.399 That's right, yeah, and Pauline ended up getting a formal warning. 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:27.279 Yes. 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:42.159 So what happened was is that Katherine had she she said something uh about but yes, she so yes, Katherine nominated Pauline, right. 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:46.720 And Pauline got annoyed by what Katherine said in a nomination. 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:56.720 Okay, and by doing that, Pauline, I think she was a bit frustrated still from uh who is her name? 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:57.519 Joanne got it. 00:12:57.679 --> 00:12:59.039 Joanne got uh nominated. 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.679 But she'd been nominated three times in a row. 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.399 Yes, but Catherine ended up in tears, that's the point. 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:17.440 And it would have been alright even then, were it not for the fact that when Rochelle took her under her wing and brought her into the bathroom, and she let lit the blue touch paper by pointing at Pauline and saying, I hope you're proud of yourself. 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:19.759 Um and that's what sparked it all. 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:26.879 Yes, Rochelle, as Joanne mentioned, Rochelle is a problem in the house. 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:28.320 And everybody said this. 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:37.200 Rochelle

is like a child in a way, because she will stoke things unnecessarily or get involved in things which are unnecessary. 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:39.679 She didn't need to do that. 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:40.559 Correct. 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:41.440 At all. 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:41.840 No. 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.039 There was no need. 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.000 Rochelle is lucky she is not up for nomination this week. 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:50.159 Because she I think she'll be voted out. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:50.639 Yes. 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:57.759 After people ask me all the time who do you think is going to win, and I I never really have an answer because it keeps my idea keeps changing. 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:02.559 But at this moment, I think the sympathy of the nation is going to be with Catherine. 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:11.840 Because when she sits sits in a die room chair, sobbing her heart out, and it's clearly, or at least as far as I can work out, it's clearly genuine, it's not manufactured or anything like that. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:16.000 And you think, oh, poor little thing, you know, um, you know, let her win it. 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.960 You know, the one in the eye for all those naughty people. 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:22.240 But you can't let someone win it after just one experience. 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.799 Well, no, no, and and and as I say, my my uh whole impression might be different by the next episode. 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:33.200 Yeah, because you never know, she she may become a dark horse and just be destructive in the whole house, you never know. 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:44.159 That's right, and in the middle of all of this argy bargy that's been going on, there was one flicker of of dare I say, one flicker of maturity and hope that came. 00:14:44.320 --> 00:15:00.159 Um because the next morning after that big blow-up that they'd been when uh Pauline went and sat slept out in another room and all of that, um, in the morning, Lynx was talking to Katherine and said, words to the effect of, you know, in this house, things change very quickly. 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:00.480 Yeah. 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:04.960 And that is definitely true, and that happened in my series, I've seen it happen in this series. 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.600 Um, I mean, and even with Pauline there, she was in the die room saying, Oh, nobody likes me, blah, blah, blah. 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:14.000 And then 30 seconds later, she's in the snug, kind of giving Omar a counselling session. 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:19.519 And I thought, gosh, that's a bit of a swift change, but in the house, that is how it happens, you see. 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:23.759 So, everyone who's been in floods of tears and thinking how terrible life is, etc. 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:31.600 etc., uh, rightly, at that moment, but you know, fast forward half an hour, Big Brother says, right today, house mate, I've got a little treat for you. 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:36.399

You're gonna have a party and sing songs and have a loathy time, and the whole atmosphere just changes, you see. 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:41.360 So there's a long way to go, and uh, and I don't think it's a done deal by a long shot. 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.039 Yes, I I think it's gonna be very interesting. 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:52.960 Yeah, Lynx, as I as I said on the previous episode of BB UK, Lynx has become my one of the favourites to uh to win. 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.720 His whole mannerisms has changed since since Chelsea. 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:07.440 He's just completely calmed down, he's almost he's almost been a mediator to a lot of these instances as well that are happening in the house. 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.600 So he's getting involved, but he's not getting involved where he's actually being aggressive. 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:18.240 He's actually just saying, Looks okay, let's just, you know, think about this or step away from the situation or whatever. 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:23.279 So he's actually been more he's using his brain instead of using his muscles. 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:24.080 Yes. 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:24.559 Yes. 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.000 But that's what that's what I do, because I don't really have any muscles. 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.759 Apart from in a very nice seafood restaurant that's nearby, you should go and check it out. 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.200 Anyway, um now the last eviction, i.e. 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.960 the Joanne and uh Rochelle one, people were saying, who do you think's gonna go? 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:40.720 and I thought it was too close to call. 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:49.679 This time we've got Pauline and Rob, and again I think it's too close to core because you I think you either love or you hate Rob. 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:54.799 And I think you either love or you hate Pauline, and so how does that where does that balance out? 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:58.240 I mean I I would not like to say I could see either of them going. 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.399 Yeah, I I think Rob may go. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:10.240 The reason why is because he's I said to you proves he his true colours are really starting to show, and I just feel he's doing a lot of it just to annoy people. 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:27.359 It looks as if he's just doing he's not actually doing it to get along with the housemates now, he's just doing it to irritate people, which is which isn't if you're spending uh standy period of time in a secluded place with people you don't know, don't just annoy them. 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:28.559 You just get along with them. 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.759 And he's doing a lot of that just he says, Oh, I just don't care. 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:33.519 Yeah, do you like this? 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:34.960 There's no need to do that. 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:35.279 Yes. 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.079 Because he he's another person, just can't let it go. 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:39.200 And this is the problem. 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:45.440 If you're gonna do that, what happens is you do that once, you're gonna do it again and again and again. 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.799 So that means he's only gonna get worse throughout this rest of the series. 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.480 Oh but would that be a reason people might want to keep him in for precisely that reason? 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.519 No, because he'll get he'll get he'll get nominated every single time. 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.279 This is the same as Rochelle. 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:06.720 People don't like her as much because she can be very irrit uh irritating because she moans about everything. 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.119 She hasn't moaned as much this week, actually, which has been good. 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:09.680 That's true. 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:11.440 She still moans, don't get me wrong. 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:12.000 Yeah. 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:20.240 But Rob has become over the last I'll probably say week week or so, he has become more and more irritating to the housemates. 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:27.440 Well, you know, I mentioned before that I kind of stuck he started to lose his shine for me when he did the thing about wearing the tassels and ripping his shirt off and everything. 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.599 Well, this time there were two things that made me go, oh. 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:35.680 One of them was when the nominations were going on and he got the most, he goes, Hey, I won, I'm a winner, and all that. 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.640 And I think, no, that's not that's not genuine. 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:49.440 But then the other thing is when he and Pauline were having, having been nominated, he and Pauline having a quiet chat, and Pauline said to him, you know, would you like it if I just left voluntarily and then you would be saved from eviction? 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:53.039 Which is not necessarily true, but she was offering that that option. 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:54.160 Yeah, lifeline, yeah. 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:54.720 Yes. 00:18:54.880 --> 00:19:01.440 And he said, uh, oh no, I would hate it if you did that, I would hate it if you did that, but it has to be a decision that you make yourself. 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:01.920 I know. 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:10.640 I mean, and and I remember they talked about this on the group chat show and summed it up beautifully when one of the presenters on there said, um, it's like he was saying, no, don't go, don't go, don't go. 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.319 But would you like me to hold the door open for you? 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:13.279 I know. 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:14.240 See? 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.359 And this is what I'm trying to say. 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.559 Rob is Rob is more sneaky than anybody actually thinks. 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:24.640 I this this is yes, he he has become almost like public enemy number one at the moment. 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.279 So you think he's

the one who's who's going on uh on Friday? 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:28.640 I think, I think so. 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:44.559 Just it yeah, his behaviour has ch swayed a lot in the last week or so, and the other housemates have noticed in it, especially when they played the revolution g revelation game where they had to stand on those squares. 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:45.519 Yes, yes. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:49.519 And and they talked about him dancing on the table and all of that, yes. 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:56.880 So the 90% of the housemates agreed, and then there was just one or two who agreed with Rob, and he just wouldn't let that go. 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:01.680 And since that period of time, his behaviour, I think, has been unacceptable at times. 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.920 And subsequently, there was a bit after that where he then danced on the little table out in the garden as well. 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:06.480 Yes, yes. 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:14.720 And and they did that when the when they asked when Big Brother asked Kathrine, Twinks, Lynx, and Philip to go in. 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:16.880 Twinks and Lynx, they should be in a poem together. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.319 When they asked them to listen to the UJO recordings and look at and look at the books. 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.240 But they decided not to on that occasion. 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:26.319 That would have stirred the pot again. 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:26.720 Yes. 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:28.160 That would have stirred the pot again. 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:34.240 I suppose the upshot of all this in their little uh boardroom meetings that the production team must be rubbing their hands with glee. 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.480 Um because it I mean it it has caused the ratings to rise. 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:40.319 I'm delighted about that. 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:47.039 Um but yes, I mean, it it seems to me that nobody in the house at the moment is having an easy ride. 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:47.440 Not really. 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:54.160 I mean, some of them are are a little quieter, Frankie and Harry perhaps, but even they are not getting off scot-free. 00:20:54.319 --> 00:21:00.720 Um we're quickly just segueing back to the um nominations. 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:04.400 What do you think about the face-to-face evictions, um nominations, sorry, this week? 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:18.079 Because they had to sit on a sofa and they all had to do their nominations in the same room instead of going to the diary room this time, and they had to explain in front of the whole house what their reasons were. 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:19.200 What did you think about that? 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:26.640 Right, well, that took me right back because I had to do that twice in my series, and the first time I did it, it was me doing it on my own, not like everyone doing it, just me. 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.039 Then the second time it was all of us standing there doing it. 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:31.200 And yes, it was unpleasant. 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:37.279 Um I've got to tell you that in my series, the what they actually showed was quite significantly edited from a lot of the things that were said. 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:44.960 Um so a lot of the I I I was a bit vocal in my nominations, but it came out a lot more tame when when what they showed. 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:50.079 Um but, but you know, I've forgotten what I was just about to say. 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:51.519 Why do you interrupt me all the time? 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.279 But no, no, I've remembered it. 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:54.160 I've remembered. 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.559 You see, see, I I was practicing my lines all last night. 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:57.200 I was. 00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.759 Um, although nominating face to face. 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.240 Is uncomfortable for everybody. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.880 Uncomfortable to do it, uncomfortable to hear it. 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:10.319 But there is one little advantage, and that is you know who's done it and you know who hasn't done it. 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:17.839 Whereas when it's all done in the uh seclusion of the diary room, you come out of it and and they say, you know, Richard's got the most nominations. 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:18.240 Okay. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:18.559 Right. 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:19.519 Well, who did it? 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:20.079 You don't know. 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:21.440 Who did it, who didn't do it. 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.279 But in a face-to-face one, you do know. 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.839 So you kind of know who is on your side or who isn't. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.519 So there is an advantage there. 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:36.720 But yes, um, I think the whole uh uh ethos, the whole atmosphere of those that moment was definitely more on the negative side than the positive one. 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.599 Yes, uh because after that, do you remember Lynx trying to speak to Pauline in the kitchen? 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:47.599 And Lynx said to Pauline, how do you shall we talk about nominations now? 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:48.880 And she went, mmm. 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.640 And I thought to myself, oh Pauline, please don't do this. 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:54.240 But they're not supposed to anyway, of course. 00:22:54.400 --> 00:23:00.079 But but yes, but he he said, Look, you know, I had to nominate you because you know I I'm just being honest, etc. 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:00.640 etc. 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:02.960 And how do you feel about it? 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.839 He asked her once, twice. 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.799 Yes, and he said, Pauline? 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:13.839 Yes, and she did not respond, she just carried on eating her organic food. 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.400 But but she did that in the diary room as well. 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:20.000 Big brother said, and she just didn't answer, just I know, I know. 00:23:20.240 -->

00:23:39.599 Well, yeah, the the reason why she didn't answer in the diary room, just to make a little bit clearer, because Big Brother said to her, We do not accept that type of behaviour where she was being very aggressive towards Catherine in the Big Brother house, and he gave her a formal warning and he said, Do you understand? 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.359 twice to her, and she never actually answered Big Brother. 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:43.759 Yes. 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:50.240 She may have, it cut away, but she may have, but it's very, you know, her behaviour has also changed. 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:52.799 So I I know it's on a nice edge. 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:58.960 The heron is getting chased by a crow, which is very interesting. 00:23:59.279 --> 00:23:59.680 There we are. 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:04.160 I know crows like to chase after everything, but yeah. 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.200 The size of a heron and a small crow. 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:13.839 Tina, you dear viewer, if you were here with us right now, you would have seen the most extraordinary display of Crystal Palace wildlife at its finest. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.359 Um may I just take this opportunity to remind you that this is an open invitation. 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:24.799 You are any and all welcome to come and join us at any of our podcast recordings, which are often taking place here on the stage at the Crystal Palace Concert Bowl. 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:31.279 Uh, we also go to Mozart London on uh 69 Annalee Road, and we sometimes even go to Alistair's American Diner up the road there. 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.160 Um and I dare say there'll probably be other places before we're done. 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:40.559 Um but yes, I always let you know on TikTok lives when and where we're going to be doing it, and you're very welcome to join us whenever you like. 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.400 Book competition. 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:43.119 Yes. 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:44.559 Segwaying. 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.799 I th that I borrowed his words, segwaying, yes. 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:48.960 Do you mean segue is a musical term as well? 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:49.680 Yes. 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:54.319 If you get to the end of a piece of music and it says segue, it means you go straight into the next one without a pause. 00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:55.839 So there you go, you see? 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:56.720 Right. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.160 So, yes, we are going to be having a book giveaway. 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.720 You may or may not be aware, but if you're not, you're just about to be. 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.240 That in my other life I write books and have written 15 so far. 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:12.319 My 16th one is about 80% done, but it's been sitting there 80% done for an awfully long time, and I do want to finish it. 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:12.559 I do. 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:13.839 Well, we're all waiting. 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:14.400 We're all waiting. 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:15.680 Yeah, well, I just hope you are. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.680 I like to build that sense of anticipation. 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:22.559 Anyway, the 15 books that do exist currently are up for grabs as a prize. 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:31.279 If you win this extraordinary competition, you can choose any one of those 15 as your prize, and both Mark and I will sign it for you and send it off to you. 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:32.640 So how cool is that? 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It makes us makes us feel wanted and loved. 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:02.319 Yes. 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:04.880 Which is sort of in very short supply in the big brother house at all. 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:05.680 It is, it is. 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:08.160 Oh, oh, things are blowing away. 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:08.559 Oh yeah. 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:10.079 Just hold on to the cups for a moment. 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:10.880 It is, it is. 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:11.599 There we are. 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:17.359 Yes, so as we were speaking about we uh before we did a little segue. 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:17.759 Yes. 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:23.039 We were talking about Pauline and Lynx and her behaviour and Big Brother. 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:23.839 Yes. 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:36.559 So do you think she's gonna hold that grudge with Lynx until she gets the until nomination day, or do you think she will possibly try and get a result with him? 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:45.200 Because she she because she keeps saying, I like to keep things real and I like to be I'm she's this is her words precisely. 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:50.480 She says, she says she only puts out kindness and compassion. 00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.160 That's what she said. 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.039 Right. 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.240 And yet her behaviour has not shown that. 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.000 Now, what do you think, listeners and viewers? 00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:02.240 This is from her. 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.319 I I I I written this word for word. 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:05.359 Yes, okay. 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.599 It is difficult, isn't it? 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.079 Because I mean everyone has their good days and bad days. 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.599 Um and don't forget as well that what we see on the screen is heavily edited. 00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.319 Not like this podcast, which is hardly edited at all, is it? 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.319 We get all this in a single take, you know, honest. 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:19.839 Very good, very good. 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:21.440 Yeah, exactly true, yeah. 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:36.559 But yes, what you see on the screen on the Big Brother thing is massively edited, and of course, yeah, whilst they can't tell you how to vote, and however people do vote, that is the result that will be carried forward, but they can edit it in such a way as to influence you to vote in a certain way. 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:45.759 Um and so all these kind of contradictions we see in people from time to time, where they seem to be nice one moment and not the next, i it it's very cleverly done. 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:55.519 They they know their job, they know what they're doing, uh, and they're trying to you know hook you and to make you have thoughts and feelings, you're gonna have feelings and and and uh impressions about these people. 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:05.519 You know, and you're gonna your impression of them is directly affected by

this, and you don't think actually it's because of what they're showing me that I'm thinking about this, it's them to blame, actually. 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:05.839 Yeah. 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.240 Um but there we are, there we are. 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.039 I mean it's I suppose it's a bit of a combination of the two, isn't it? 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:13.039 It is, yes, it is, it is. 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:21.440 Yes, it's gonna be very close on Friday, but I just think Rob may just edge getting evicted, I think. 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.079 Oh god. 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.839 If if he continues. 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.720 Depends what happens on tonight's episode as well. 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.359 But yeah, it will be a very close affair. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:39.519 I do so who do you think has gone up or gone down in your sort of viewpoint in the last couple of days? 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.839 Oh, well, more people have gone down than gone up. 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:42.880 They have, yes. 00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.400 Um so so I I have question marks now over Philip. 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.960 Um over um uh Samuel. 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.079 Samuel, yeah. 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.799 Um well well, Rochelle has stayed the same, but that's in quite a low position. 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:57.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.680 Um as I mentioned earlier, I I like Catherine, but of course she's not been in there very long. 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:02.240 No. 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.400 Um kept herself to herself. 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:09.839 Yeah, but when when we have seen something of her, it's been kind of in a positive way heartwarming. 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.000 You can't you can't watch her sitting there crying in the diary room and not feel a bit of uh s sympathy. 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:14.720 Yeah, yeah. 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:16.880 Yes, exactly. 00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:18.000 Well well most of them are. 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:18.640 Yeah. 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:20.640 Apart from yeah. 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:36.720 Yes, but you know, I'm fast forwarding in my mind because what they tend to do is after the eviction has been announced and then whoever it is has left, then most episodes there'll be a bit where it says, uh, you know, 10.48 pm. 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.240 It's been 18 minutes since the housemate was evicted. 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.319 And so you see the immediate aftermath. 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:46.240 Now, in my mind I'm thinking, right, suppose Rob goes. 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:52.079 So then Pauline is still, you know, mooching around there in the immediate the kind of the quiet after the storm. 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.880 Or if Pauline does go, then Rob's still going to be there with all of his singing and dancing and stuff. 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.319 And I'm just kind of in my mind, I'm kind of replaying each of those different possibilities. 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.759 And I'm thinking it could be a very tense atmosphere, whichever way it goes. 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:15.200 Do you think it's quite interesting that for two weeks in a row Pauline's closest allies have also been evicted alongside her? 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.839 Oh, that's a very astute observation. 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:18.319 Yeah. 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:19.440 He's good, he's good. 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.279 Because last week it was Joanne. 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:22.160 Yes. 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:27.680 And now it is Rob, who she's got close to since Joanne has left. 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.119 Very odd, isn't it? 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.480 Because and who else does she have in her immediate circle? 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.519 So she has Rob, is it Harry? 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.000 Well, I'm not sure there really was anybody else, was there? 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:46.000 Well, I know those two have got really, really close over the last three about four days, they've got really, really close, haven't they? 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.440 Because they're always in a snuck together, they're always talking privately now. 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:50.400 Yes, yes. 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.960 Oh, and and she has made overtures to Omar now as well. 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.599 Whether that will yield anything, don't know. 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.960 Yes, that yes, because she yeah, she did compliment Omar. 00:31:59.279 --> 00:31:59.440 Yes. 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:01.119 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:07.839 So it it I just think it's very interesting that all the people that she has got close to, they've just been up for eviction. 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:09.839 And nominated, yeah. 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:11.440 You know what just popped into my mind? 00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:17.440 I remember um shortly after I left left the teaching profession and I had a little final conversation with uh with one of these. 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:19.920 Oh didn't you know? 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.319 That's the first I I've known I've known Richard for such a kind of period of time. 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:25.920 I just thought he was in yeah. 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.240 Well I I I I wasn't I wasn't like a class teacher. 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.319 I would go into the school and give music lessons. 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.000 But anyway, well I'll tell you about it later. 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.559 We can do it, we can do a jolly good natter over coffee and biscuits. 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:37.519 I can tell you all about it. 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:37.839 Yeah. 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:56.160 Um but yes, the head of music in one of my schools on the last day that I was there was saying our farewells and everything, and and uh I happened to say to him, you know, uh, if I've learnt one thing from all these years of teaching, because you get all these kids come in to to have their lesson and they bring in with them all

of their family background, whatever they're going through, it's all there, you know, you can see it all there in the room. 00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:00.400 And he says, yes, he said, it gives you a very interesting insight into the human condition. 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:01.839 I always remember that. 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.319 And uh I think Big Brother is a bit the same. 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:12.480 Uh you know, because you know they're all mature, responsible adults, and if you met them outside of there, they'd probably be perfectly fine to get along with, etc. 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:13.039 etc. 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.519 But in there it becomes this swirling cauldron. 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:16.079 Cauldron. 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:17.759 Cauldron, no pun intended. 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.240 That comes to boiling point sometimes and they temper is erupt and everything. 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.960 And I'm thinking that wouldn't happen anywhere else. 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:31.599 And of course, because it wouldn't happen anywhere else, dare I say they probably most of them don't know how to deal with it when it does. 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.279 And that's why you get all of this misunderstanding and and and furore and and uh and everything else. 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.200 Not that there was any of that in my house, of course. 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:40.319 No, of course not. 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:41.839 No, no, no, no. 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:48.000 It is it is very, very interesting to see how things have yes evolved in this series. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:48.400 Yes. 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:53.599 It will be I yeah, I I know Rochelle, like you said, gone down. 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.480 Well, she's kind of stayed stable, she can't go any further than what she currently is, to be honest. 00:33:58.799 --> 00:33:59.440 Because yeah. 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:00.880 Yeah, stayed at the low levels. 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.319 For me, yes, I I mentioned earlier, Lynx. 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.320 He's stable, he's still around the top. 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:15.760 Rob has gone definitely gone down, in my opinion, just because his behaviour over the last you know week or so. 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:27.039 And I also think Twinks, she is at the lower level as well, just because of her behaviour, she can't let anything go. 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:45.119 If she could let things go, I would have a different viewpoint on her, but it's just the fact that anytime someone brings something up about her that was in the past or it's it's been forgotten about, but she will reignite the situation unnecessarily, and I think to myself, why are you doing that? 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.320 So she she she can't let it go. 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:49.840 So that and that's another thing. 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.320 That would be a good title for a Disney song, by the way. 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.239 It is, yeah, it is. 00:34:54.559 --> 00:35:04.159 And

I would say Yasmin a little bit because she she is also a stirrer. 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:04.800 Yes. 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.519 Although I I don't think she realizes that she is. 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:25.519 But people have said this to her, that she is the but because it's it's it seems as she she wants to get involved to feel important, and it's a shame because she probably is a really nice girl, but because she feels she thinks she needs to feel important or feel noticed, I think that's probably the more important thing. 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.800 Because she's not if you look at her in the house, not really many people actually go up to her and talk to her. 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:31.679 She goes up to them. 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.239 If you look at her, people don't actually come down and sit to sit with her, really. 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.079 They she goes up to them. 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.960 So I think she probably doesn't feel included as much. 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.719 That's why she maybe stirs the part. 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:44.079 That's my personal opinion. 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:53.519 I now you mentioned I I have noticed that when she is chatting with people, if they're saying, Well, I think this, I think that, I think the other, she'll be going, Oh yes, 100%, yes, yes, yes. 00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:00.159 Um rather than her own opinions actually start to emerge when she's reporting what's been said in this. 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.880 Yeah, I think she has a low self-esteem of herself. 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.119 Oh, that's very uh psychotherapist of you. 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.679 Just because of certain certain behaviours, which is a shame. 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:17.519 Because as I said, and and also the thing with Omar, with her and Omar disagreeing quite a fair bit, you can tell that's taken a toll on her as well. 00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.239 So that has lowered her just her emotional level, that's just a m lowered it a little bit. 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:36.639 So I I I I I don't want to say I wouldn't say yeah, I'm how it's gone down on levels, but she's just uh plateaued and she's not really she's not doing anything to to get the audience or the viewers excited about her anymore. 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.320 Yes, and and she hasn't had that much screen time in the last couple of episodes. 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.519 So they've probably got that in mind, the producers, and I dare say they'll be, you know, bringing that to the fore. 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:55.679 It it almost reminds me of, you know, when they have production meetings on soap operas and they get they have their meetings and say, right, which which character can we get to have a fallout with so-and-so and how we're gonna do it, and blah blah blah. 00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.239 And I can imagine a conversation like that happening in the uh in the production room meeting. 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.639 Yeah um but uh not that I've ever been in there, of course, but um uh that that's I'm getting I'm sure that's the kind of thing that must go on. 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:07.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.280 That's that's true, that's true. 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:10.480 But yes, there we are. 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:20.400 You see now I hope you appreciate, dear viewers and listeners, um, just what we go through to bring you these extraordinary episodes because I'm sitting here freezing to death on this very windy, freezing cold autumnal day. 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.079 So it's alright for you with your thick coat on. 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:23.199 And a hand warmer. 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.320 Oh, is that what that is? 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:25.360 Yes, I am warmer. 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:26.480 Oh, good grief alive. 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:28.079 You never offer me his hand warmer. 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.039 You didn't ask. 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.280 Well, all I've got is a cup of cold coffee. 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:32.159 Look at that. 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:33.199 Yes, I don't know. 00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.199 They're not paying me any extra there, you know. 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:36.320 No, not any. 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:38.800 Anyway. 00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:49.840 So, is there anything else you wish to uh any other words of we wisdom and deep profundity that you wish to uh regale the uh the viewers with? 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.679 Thank you for everybody who supported our podcast. 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:56.320 It's it's been it's been great, thank you. 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:05.199 We uh we really appreciate all the nice comments and just the amount of people who just really enjoy watching us do this. 00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:06.800 So thank you and listen to us. 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:07.199 Thank you. 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.400 We really, really appreciate it. 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.920 And what's amazing is that you like us so much when we hate each other so much. 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.960 I know, you've got to see us, but we are like the we are like big brother. 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:15.519 It's true. 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.960 Off screen, you you don't know about the arguments we get after. 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:19.440 I know. 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.679 Like I've said before, he's been my friend for over two years, and I've been his friend for two weeks. 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.440 Anyway, yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.440 Uh so thank you for all the lonely messages. 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:32.320 We do appreciate it. 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.320 And don't forget, you're you're welcome to come and join us on any of these podcast recordings. 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:41.679 Um and please keep watching the podcast and tuning to the TikTok lives that I do most evenings. 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:48.239 Um I don't never quite know what time I'm going on there, but it's usually kind of mid-evening-ish, and I'm on there for about an hour or so. 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.159 Um, always finishing, of course, before the next Big Brother episode begins. 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.079 That's the crucial strategic thing. 00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:05.039 Um anyway, as we always say, at the end of every TikTok live, at the end of every podcast, don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:06.320 And be nice to each other. 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.920 Do be nice to each other, do not take your lead from those housemates in Big Brother. 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:10.719 Definitely not. 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:16.480 You'll just get stomach ulcers and mouth sores and and and and and your hair will drop out even more than both of ours have already. 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:18.960 This happened to us because we watched Big Brother. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.559 Happened to me because I was in Big Brother. 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:21.280 Yeah, yeah. 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:22.400 Oh, so you had a full hat. 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.840 I I I had an Afro perm before I went in there. 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:29.679 Oh, brilliant, brilliant. 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.119 Um anyway, so there we are. 00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:32.559 So we should look forward to seeing you. 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.440 I'll see you on the next TikTok live and then um and I'll see you. 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.519 I'll see you on the next one of these podcast episodes. 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:38.239 Yes, yes. 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:38.880 Yes, we will. 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:39.679 Thank you. 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:40.800 Thank you for joining us today. 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:41.840 Yes, thank you very much. 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:42.239 Thank you. 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:43.599 Okay, goodbye. 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:44.559 Bye bye.