บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Jesse Leach Talks Killswitch Engage’s Future, Mental Health & CM Punk at Aftershock

00:00:00 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Baby Huey out here. Day number one of Aftershock. Look at this. With my buddy, Jesse from Killswitch Engage. What's going on, man? 00:00:08 Speaker 2: Everything. 00:00:08 Speaker 1: I was going to say. 00:00:09 Speaker 2: Good stuff. It's all good stuff, man. 00:00:11 Speaker 1: Very busy day for you. So you and I had a video chat. 00:00:16 Speaker 2: Let's see. 00:00:17 Speaker 1: Coming up on about four months ago now, it was. 00:00:20 Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I know I'm sure it's been a busy year for you, but it was right before your show at the Warfield with Machine Head and Iron Reagan. 00:00:29 Speaker 2: So good. 00:00:29 Speaker 1: So good. So let's talk about that real quick. Incredible night. It was just super fun. I mean, how the tour was, though, for you? Let's talk about the tour. I mean, it's great. 00:00:39 Speaker 2: We did three runs with Machine Head. We did Canada. We did two in the States. And, you know, Rob is just a legendary. 00:00:46 Speaker 3: influential person for me and a friend as well and then you mentioned iron reagan talk about a fun band that and they hadn't toured for like seven a long time i want to say seven years yeah and to have a band like that on the bill it just it made you want to drink beer and just get in the in the pit you know that's the thing i. 00:01:02 Speaker 1: Love it because i love iron ring i mean i'm a huge municipal waste yeah so i texted tony like dude coming tonight. 00:01:08 Speaker 2: And tony's awesome Him and I became very fast friends. 00:01:12 Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to say, did you guys know each other at all beforehand? 00:01:14 Speaker 3: I mean, I've admired Municipal Waste, but we connected because he's a hardcore kid. We bonded over bands that, you know, I have t-shirts on. 00:01:23 Speaker 2: He's like, I know that band. I'm like, you do? And like instant friends, you know, hardcore kids. So I love Tony. He's awesome. And he's hysterical on the microphone. He is. We would just like sit side stage and go, what's he going to say tonight? 00:01:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:01:37 Speaker 2: Love it. 00:01:38 Speaker 1: Well, at the Warfield show, there was some kid in the crowd. And he was like, whose parents brought this kid out here? It was literally like an eight-year-old kid out there. 00:01:45 Speaker 2: I love it. 00:01:45 Speaker 1: Called it out. But no, every time I go to his shows, he always calls me out. So when Iron Reagan was on stage, he's like, Huey! And then they're playing the Regency Ballroom in municipal ways. He's like, Huey's here! And then in Berkeley, at the UC Theater, he threw a garbage can at me. I had the video somewhere. But, yeah, Tony always, like. 00:02:04 Speaker 2: Isolates me in the crowd. Legendary, man. 00:02:05 Speaker 1: But I'm big. I can stand out. But for you, though, I mean, you guys have played the Bay Area so many times. So, yeah, just your thoughts on playing the Bay Area scene. 00:02:13 Speaker 2: I mean, the history of it. Yeah. Period. You know, thrash music, you know. We played with Exodus there. We played with Machine Head there. Like, thrash. It's the mecca of we wouldn't be here without it type music, you know. 00:02:27 Speaker 3: The blending of the hardcore and the metal, like, That crossover stuff, there's nothing like it, man. I was born and bred on it, for sure. So that's always in the back of my mind when we play that area. 00:02:38 Speaker 2: It's just an honor. 00:02:40 Speaker 1: What about a lot of the punk bands, like the Gilman band, Lookout Record band? 00:02:44 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. 00:02:45 Speaker 3: Operation Ivy is one of my favorite bands of all time. I know every single word. I mean, early Green Day, I had that stuff on cassette tape. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gilman. I mean, that's history right there, too. And Rancid. I love Rancid. Good stuff, man. 00:03:01 Speaker 1: So you heard of Doom Regulator? 00:03:03 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:03:03 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're finally touring now. 00:03:05 Speaker 2: I know, it's so cool. 00:03:06 Speaker 1: Which I'm excited to see. So yeah, Tim Armstrong. 00:03:08 Speaker 2: Operation Ivy all day. 00:03:09 Speaker 3: I know every single word on that record. 00:03:12 Speaker 2: It just makes me happy. 00:03:13 Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy, though, how relevant their music still is to this day? 00:03:17 Speaker 3: Ain't nothing wrong with another Unity song. If that's not one of the best lines and. 00:03:23 Speaker 2: A truth, it's inspired me to continue to write songs about Unity. 00:03:27 Speaker 1: I know. Well, it's such a crazy time right now. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:03:30 Speaker 1: In this world, this country. 00:03:31 Speaker 2: Very divided, unfortunately. 00:03:32 Speaker 1: I know. I'm with you. It's unfortunate. So with that being said, though, do you feel like during kind of this chaotic period, it helps motivate or give you inspiration of what you can maybe write for future albums? 00:03:45 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. 00:03:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's important to address the darkness. But, you know, I got that PMA. I got to keep it positive. 00:03:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, on this last record, for example, there's a couple of songs that are just dark. They don't have that positive flip. 00:04:01 Speaker 3: And then you have a song like I Believe, which that whole thing is about positivity and unity. 00:04:05 Speaker 2: So I think as an artist, it's our jobs to sort of critique and talk about what's going on. And I don't do it specifically. I'm not super political in your face. 00:04:16 Speaker 3: But to me, it's more about like awakening people to the divisiveness and wanting people to come together to focus on the real issues. instead of bickering with each other on the other smaller issues. You know, it's that tactic of divide, rule, and conquer. As an artist, I try to point to that and go,