Fullständig transkription av Mornings with Graeme Goodings - 19 September 2025

taxpayers money will go to foreign companies, and we don't even know it will if it will achieve any objective as set. So it's really important that we, in terms of the opposition talk to the Australian communities and explain what the alternatives are. But what I'm hearing back from them is real disappointment, a real sense of disappointment in this Prime Minister. 00:06:13 Speaker 1: You went to the last election the nuclear was a key component of your ongoing power policy. Will it be into the future. 00:06:20 Speaker 3: Well, already we're saying that we should lift the moratorium, and that means that nuclear energy has the potential to attract investment from the private sector if it's the most sensible type of energy at the time. And we know that nuclear has a strong role to play in developed economies around the world. In fact, we're pretty much the only one of twenty that isn't either using it or on a pathway to using it. So it should be part of our consideration and it is right now in terms of that policy that we're developing with those two fundamentals. But meanwhile we've got a government that's come up with these interim targets, no cost attached, no credibility. Australians, quite rightly will feel very disappointed. 00:07:03 Speaker 1: Focusing back on your party, Andrew Hasti's openly threatened to resign from the shadow cabinet if the party doesn't abandon it's net zero targets by twenty fifty. What impact does. 00:07:13 Speaker 3: They have to I've got amazing colleagues in my party room, in both the Liberal party room which is my party room, and obviously there's the Nationals party room as well, and we're together in coalition. I respect and value the opinions of all of them because what they bring is that lived experience from the places that they are sent to Canberra to represent, and their own experience in business, in industry and small business in the real world, in the real economy. So everyone's opinion is valuable as we go forward and we develop those energy policies that I know will meet Australians where they are in a way that definitely represents and understands the importance of affordable energy and a manufacturing sector. I came to South Australia a lot while I was the Deputy leader. It had the industry portfolio Graham and I couldn't stand on a manufacturing factory flaw and not here loud and clear the impact of the cost of energy. South Australia's got some of the highest energy prices in Australia, and that cost often means you know, I'm just imagining a director pointing to a graph and saying that's where the cost curve is, That's where the energy cost is, That's why I'm going out of business or I'm selling out overseas. Now what that means is amazing family businesses that are losing hope, and the communities and the state that are losing jobs. 00:08:40 Speaker 1: A lot of people would agree with your sentiments, but a lot of people also are saying, you know, where are the policies. The Coalition had a crushing defeat at the last election. The latest News poll shows the Coalition's primary vote slumped just twenty seven percent, the lowest level since the survey began. You're losing ground. 00:08:59 Speaker 3: Well point to that crushing defeat as you call it, and I've said too, Graham, that we were smashed. That was about four months ago. It's important, therefore that we do what I said I would do and I became leader, which is to listen closely to what Australians are telling us. They gave us a strong message at that election, and as I travel the country continuing to listen, I'm always on the move, as many people will know, and I'm hearing what people are saying and understanding where they would like to see policies and ideas and initiatives. But what I can confidently say is that the Liberal Party I lead will always back aspiration. We are there for the people who work hard, who take risks, who give back, who have a crack, who get up early in the morning, just as I used to when I worked in the shearing sheds of Western Queens and saving for a stake on the family farm. You're worrying about the bills, worrying about the future in terms of my farming life and beyond. I know I've lived that life life and the Liberal Party is here for Australians who believe in building that better future for themselves and their families, and if you'll give me a moment two Graham. I noticed as a survey out this morning from an app that called Hilda. They gather the data on many things, household income, labor dynamics, and they've said that women eighteen to forty nine right now are saying cost of living is the reason that they're not having children, and that. 00:10:27 Speaker 4: Really worries me. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: I know the stress of having three children and making it all balanced between work and family. I don't want cost of living, via this government's policies, to prevent families taking those important life decisions that we want to see them take. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: Now. 00:10:44 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned the subject of women because at the last election, women fell away and drove from the coalition. They're continuing not to be attracted to the Liberal Party, which is unusual. You were the first female leader. We would have thought there'd be some bounce back. Why are you not appealing as a party to women. 00:11:04 Speaker 3: Women gave us a strong message at the last election, and that's the message I'm hearing as I move around the country. But what I am really determined to do is to meet modern women, and that includes modern families, parents, young graduates, professional women, wherever they are, and hear what they have to say, because we do need as a Liberal party to have policies that reflect their lives and where they can look at us and say, yes, I see this is a political party that gets it for the circumstances that I'm living in, and my own personal experience is something that I do talk about with them. Our policies are up for

a view, Graham. Our values are not. That's what I mean. There's an incredible honor and privilege to lead this party, but to be the flag bearer, as many of us are around the country for those Liberal party values, which are all about aspiration and building the future for yourself, for your family, and for opportunity, choice and freedom. 00:12:05 Speaker 1: There are a lot of frustrated Liberal supporters of saying what you're saying is all well and good, but where are the policies. I mean, you know, four months since the election, people are sort of saying, you know, the government is moving ahead putting up policies, whether you agree with them or not, but they're doing things, and the Liberals seem to be in transigent I hear. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: That, Graham, and I understand you've got to ask me those questions. But looks two and a half years until the next election. You will hear much from us between now and then, and that of course will include detailed policies. But meanwhile, when I'm out there having a round table with young people or meeting a group of small businesses and I say to them, I want to hear what you have to say to me, they're very happy to tell me they're not saying they're not asking me to deliver the answers to them there and then they're very happy to explain to me what they're going through. And from that we're building real credibility. I believe in the policy development work that we're doing, so it is happening. I've set up five different policy development groups in my party room. They're meeting continually, not just when Parliament's sitting then offline, they're hearing from people. And that's the way you do this well. You don't say that you have all the answers as a parliamentarian or a member. You engage the people with the real experience, who often feel that they're not being asked the questions that the politicians should be asking them. Come into my small business. I'll show you my books, I'll tell you about my energy price. Come into my family circle and let me explain to you how tough it is managing that childcare, work, pay back your hex deet, build your career, and then suddenly you know you want to have children and you're in your thirties. Come and listen to me and hear that. And that's what I'm doing. And it's very important that we do that. But rest assured. The policies are under development. 00:13:53 Speaker 1: What about immigration. We get so much feedback on the station. People are not happy with the level of immigration. Do you have a policy. 00:13:59 Speaker 3: On I've said that the permanent migration number that was recently announced by the government, one hundred and eighty five thousand, is too high. Back to my listening to communities, I hear loud and clear from them that the infrastructure, the jobs, the services, the hospital, the schools, the commute, the roads, the amenity of our cities is not matching with the number of people. And this is not the fault of any migrant or migrant community. And I want to make that very clear. This is not what this is about. This is a failure of this government. It is a massive failure in policy. You know, we always try to get these numbers. It's not just the permanent migration number, Graham, it's other subsets of that, and there's net overseas migration as well. And every time they deliver a number, it's always wrong. It's always proved incorrect, and Australians are rightly disappointed. This is a government that bought close to a million migrants in the first two years of office without a proper plan to house them. Housing is critical and they got the numbers wrong. So we do need to get the balance right. And I'm having those conversations as you would expect. 00:15:08 Speaker 1: We're not going to have time to go through the whole range of issues, but one is gas exports in this country. It seems absolutely ludicrous that we have so much gas, one of the biggest sources of gas in the world. Yet we're exporting so much gas and we're almost having to import gas because we're virtually giving it away. And successive governments liberal and labor have allowed gas virtually to be given away overseas. What are your thoughts on gas exports into the future. 00:15:37 Speaker 3: Australians roll their eyes at me when they consider that we're building a terminal to import gas when we have strong supplies here, So this is something we're focusing on. Gas policy is very close to my heart and I know that as a previous Environment Minister. It just needs to happen in terms of the approval, the investment, the confidence and the building of supply on shore, and that hasn't happened under this government. It takes about five hundred days for a project to get approval, so we're not doing what we need to do to develop our own resources across this country and that is a massive failure of this government. But part of the reason why I'm very skeptical, deeply skeptical about what the Prime Minister announced yesterday, is that our policy on energy needs to be about energy security. It's going to be built on engineering, science, technology and energy security is part of that and it's vital. 00:16:32 Speaker 1: Do you think that gas exporters should be paying more tax, more royalties than they are. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: It's part of a broader conversation, Graham, and it's an important one that we need to have. But we do need to put Australians first when it comes to the gas resources of this country. 00:16:49 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to town. 00:16:50 Speaker 2: Today. 00:16:50 Speaker 1: Thanks, it's good to have you here. We'd like to see you more often, but we know you're busy and have many other things to do. 00:16:57 Speaker 3: I'm often in South Australia and I'm always happy to chat. 00:17:00 Speaker 1: Well, the door is always open. Thank you very much for your time. That a leader of the Federal Opposition, Susan Lee in the studio. 00:17:06 Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham

Goodings. 00:17:12 Speaker 1: Twenty eight to ten, five Double A on a Friday morning. 00:17:15 Speaker 5: Gig. 00:17:15 Speaker 1: Our government is taking our country into the Third World. Miss Lee needs to listen, for sure, but she also needs to lead, take bold positions and explain the reasoning behind them. Good morning, Graham. Two thousand and eight solar systems with forty four cent feed in tariffs to twenty five four sent feed in tariffs. Absolutely no difference if you believe Albanezi saying yesterday that modern solar panels are ten times more efficient today than then, Thank you for that, Danny, Hi, gig. What evidence is there how women voted in the last election? Who determines that? I thought no one knows how they voted. Well, there's a thing called research pollsters, and that's where they get their information from. Eight double two three double double O. Helen, says Graham. This is the first time I've heard Susan Lee at length. Very impressed. Thank you for that. Well, as we've been talking about the government has announced a significant shift in climate policy, lifting Australia's twenty thirty five emissions reduction target from sixty two percent to seventy percent below two thousand and five levels. The move aims to accelerate the transition to renewable energy, electrification and cleaner industries. It comes after growing pressure from environmental groups, business leaders and international partners to strengthen Australia's climate ambition, but there have been critics. Joining us now is Richard Dennis, the executive director of the Australia Institute. Richard, good morning to. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: You, Good morning. 00:18:38 Speaker 1: How do you see the sixty two to seventy percent climate policy? 00:18:43 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:18:44 Speaker 6: Look, I think you know, no one's surprised that the Albaneze government doesn't have a lot of ambition when it comes to climate. So sadly, I think these low targets are pretty much what most people were expecting. But Australia now finds itself in the worst of both worlds. We're still own new gas and coal projects. We're exporting enormous amounts of fossil fuels to the rest of the world, which will cause climate change. Half the gas we export we're giving away for free. And at the same time the government wants a pat on the back for slightly more ambitious domestic targets. But this contradiction between our determination to export more fossil fuels and our reluctance to do much domestically here at home. Yeah, I think it's ignoring the climate science. Just to be clear, the climate science says we need to stop opening new gas and coal we're ignoring that science, and we're ignoring our international obligations here. These very kind of unambitious targets from the Albanese government don't stack up with the kind of promises Australia made back at the Paris Climate Conference. 00:19:46 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:19:47 Speaker 1: I think this is the frustration that most Australians feel.

Many Australians a feeling, let's not say most, but that all right, if we've got ahead in this direction and cut our carbon emissions, but we're exporting way more more potential carbon emissions than we're producing in our own country. 00:20:04 Speaker 6: Absolutely not just exporting, giving it away for free. To be clear, fifty six percent of the gas that Australia exports was given away for free to the gas export companies. If Australia were tax or put a royalty or attax on the gas we export, we would raise tens of billions of extra dollars which we could spend on all sorts of exciting projects, not just to decarbonize our economy, but to improve our society. So again, sadly worse to both worlds where we're ignoring the science, we're ignoring the economics when it comes to fossil fuel exports, and then when it comes to domestic policy, we're not doing it. We're not doing much, But it'd be far cheaper to do what we're doing domestically if we were taxing the gas exporters to fund it. 00:20:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what would you like to see us doing? 00:20:54 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:20:55 Speaker 1: Look, I think it's. 00:20:55 Speaker 6: Quite obvious, you know. According to the UN Secretary General, according to the International Energy Agency, the world doesn't need any new gas and coal projects opened. We don't have to shut anything down tomorrow. But here we are in Australia still opening new ones. If we stop opening new ones, if we put at tax on the existing ones, and we stopped subsidizing fossil fuels. We literally have tens of billions of dollars to spend on genuinely decarbonizing industry, genuinely helping households control their energy bills, and actually reducing not just Australia's emissions, but the world's emissions. The economics is simple. I think the politics are simple. But I just don't think the Albaneze government wants to have a big fight with the foreign owners of the gas companies. 00:21:38 Speaker 1: Now, what about the government's headlong push towards renewables. All very admirable, but it's pushing up prices and it's not sustainable in terms of we still need gas or coal to back up the windmills and the solar panels. 00:21:54 Speaker 6: Yeah, no one again, no one's suggesting we shut anything down tomorrow. The reality is that are left to their own devices. Even the private companies don't want to open new gas or coal fired power stations. What we need to do is invest heavily in battery and other kinds of storage. We need to invest heavily in transmission and energy efficiency. And of course, if we were taxing all that gas we were giving away for free, we'd have plenty of money to solve all of those problems. So you're right, we can't go to one hundred percent renewable tomorrow. No one's actually suggesting we should. But the cheap way to fund that renewable roll out is to do what Norway does, to do what Kata does, to do what Saudi Arabia does, and don't give our resources a way for free, tax them and spend the money on our domestic priorities. It's really not complicated. 00:22:47 Speaker 7: Now. 00:22:47 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up Norway. I've heard you speak about it before, and the fact that there are parallels with the way they handle their export of resources and the way we do, and the financial situation different. Can can you talk us through that? Yeah? 00:23:00 Speaker 6: Look, Norway doesn't give their oil and gas away for free. Norway knows they only get to sell at once. So what they do is they tax it heavily. And they've built themselves an enormous sovereign wealth funds thanks to their determination to tax the exports that they supply. So we know, you look at a country like Norway, it taxes gas heavily, it taxes oil heavily, and it gives its kids free higher education. In Australia, we give the gas away for free. We charge our kids a fortune to go to university. I mean, it's so ridiculous in Australia. But the government gets more revenue each year from kids repaying their heck's debts. The government gets more revenue each year from hecks than it does from our so called petroleum resource rent tax. But it's a democracy. We can do silly things if we want, or we could learn from Norway and Katar and other countries how to get a fair deal for Australians. 00:23:57 Speaker 1: I've highlighted your point regarding Norway on this show before and people and the fact that we virtually give away our gas and people have cheated at home to Oh that was John Howard that signed off on that, but he may well have done that, But there have been successive governance of all persuasions who've refused to change things. 00:24:14 Speaker 6: That's absolutely right. So yes, John Howe did do a very generous deal to export huge amounts of gas to China, and those contracts are still in place. But it's worse than that. We're still approving new coal and new gas projects on these peppercorn prices. So yes, we've made mistakes in the past, but that doesn't mean we can't fix things today. It doesn't mean we can't improve things today. Of course, the gas industry runs around and says, well, you can't reneg you can't break promises. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: That's true. 00:24:48 Speaker 6: But again, we're still approving new gas projects, we can set the terms for those. We're still approving new coal mines, we can set the terms for those. And indeed, Stephen Miles, the Queensland premier before he lost office, increased royalties on coal and made all public transport fares only fifty cents and spent a lot of money on public housing. And the coal industry was sad and the Japanese ambassador had a tantrum. But you know what, Queensland has got a much better deal. 00:25:18 Speaker 1: Well, I put this case to the federal government. I've put it the opposition that we should be increasing taxes or imposing taxes, and they've said that will dissuade the multinationals from exploration. But it hasn't seemed to have dissuaded them. In Norway, no, I mean, it's just laughable.

Let's be clear. 00:25:38 Speaker 6: Norway Saudi Arabia, katar all have very high taxes on their gas and oil, and there I don't know anyone's noticed, but the Saudis is still explorting quite a lot of oil. So look, if Australians aren't brave enough to stand up to these companies, if our elected representatives aren't brave enough to stand up to these companies, then yep, we'll get darted every time we have these negotiations. But the Norwegians are brave enough, the Kataris are brave enough, and that's why they get a good deal, and that's why we get done it. 00:26:09 Speaker 1: Now, just before I let you go, Richard A. Textra has said, what does your guests think of clean green nuclear power? 00:26:16 Speaker 6: I think it's really really expensive, and you know, the reality is no private company wants to go and spend it. So if people really want to spend money on nuclear power, and they can figure out how to solve the waste and pay for the waste disposal, and they can figure out how to get it funded, well you know, bring it on. But the reality is it's just far cheaper. And if the only way to make nuclear affordable is to sort of say, well we'll do the waste disposal for free for you. Well, you know that just gets us into the same problem as with coal and gas will let them dump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere for free, That's what caused this problem. So letting the owners of nuclear power stations dump their waste for free, it's just another version of the same problem. 00:27:01 Speaker 1: Richard Dennis, great to speak, Thanks for your time today. Thank you, Executive Director of the Australia Institute, Richard Dennis. What are your thoughts, folks? Eight double two three double O double oh? Is the number back? Shortly five double A Mornings with gram Goodings fourteen to ten on this Friday morning. I reckon we should take some calls. Catherine, Good morning to you. O. 00:27:22 Speaker 8: Good boarding, Brian. I'm on about this traffic speed limit on West Terrace. You in June and then in July you spoke to the Deputy mayor about it and if in your paper and last are on the news. So I said that my plans for fifty speed limits a round glob of being one of them. Yeah, I've messed out West Terrace. 00:27:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think high school. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And that's what you rang about, because there there are no, no, although it's a school, it doesn't have the traditional markings for a school and limitations. 00:28:00 Speaker 8: No marking sins still a sixty limit. And in the paper it says that they're going to make part of Port Road fifty for the children's hospital, or why not make West fifty as well. 00:28:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a good point. The Port Road. They're not doing it at the moment. It will it will be reconsidered when the hospital is completed. But yeah, a good point, Catherine. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. We will pursue that with the Adelaide City Council and see if they're going to reconsider West Terrace near the Adelaide High School. Thanks for called Ian, Good. 00:28:31 Speaker 9: Morning, Good morning Graham, how are you good? 00:28:34 Speaker 1: Thanks? 00:28:37 Speaker 9: Sorry that masks like your head on made more sense in Tenniston. Susan Lee did in the whole twenty minute interview you had with her. I'm watching a Netflix sperience which was on years and years ago, The House of Cards, all about American politics. 00:28:57 Speaker 10: Yeah I remember it. 00:28:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just starting to watching that. And when are the politicians going to start answering questions? She danced around all the questions you asked, and I'll meet you, and please can you answer this truthfully? And I know you're a nice guy, Graham, and you're probably too nice. You told not to mention this sintin them the Price. 00:29:24 Speaker 1: No, no, I didn't get around to it. 00:29:27 Speaker 9: Why didn't you ask her about her? 00:29:29 Speaker 1: Well, I had a whole list of other things that were more current. If I had another five minutes, maybe I would have got to that. But no, I wasn't instructed to. But to be honest, I think the questions I did ask her were more permanent and relevant at the time. 00:29:42 Speaker 9: You did a really good job, But she didn't answer any questions whatsoever. And if she is going to be willing to be prime minister, and I'm a liberal voter, she's not got my vote. 00:29:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, not fair enough. But do you think any politician answers will we ask the questions? No, no, no, they answer around it. And you and you the voters, you the listeners are smart enough to realize that these politicians play the game. 00:30:08 Speaker 9: But to sent and number, Price gave an honest answer, straight, direct, get it right, be it wrong. She gave a direct answer, a bit like Pauline Hanson does as well, a direct straight, this is what we're going to do. And your previous caller, a person that was talked about the former Premiere of Queensland. He was directing what he was trying to do. But look what happened. So maybe the end of the day, we're the ones that are at fault because they are playing to our tune. We should we should tune things up a little bit. 00:30:52 Speaker 2: I reckon good. 00:30:53 Speaker 1: You put the pressure on good, on you, and thanks for you called Elizabeth in the Hills, Elizabeth High. 00:30:59 Speaker 11: Thank you. I am so frightened and annoyed, absolutely horrified. Brand daughter in law has had horrible things wrong with her and this time she's got a broken ankle which has got an abscess in it, which was today too. She had to be at Flinders at seven point thirty because she was an emergency to have this abcess dealt with drained. And she got down there and they went to her and said, oh, sorry, we can't do anything for you today. It'll be next Thursday. And she's got an abcess sitting there. She's had anti baltics, I think three different lots of anti baltics which

aren't curing it, and all they could say was, oh, sorry. Oh and the doctor I think saw her and said, oh, bad luck next Thursday. 00:31:55 Speaker 1: This is an emergency of Flinder's Medical Center. 00:31:58 Speaker 11: Yes, I mean she says that. I mean she's been a slenders a lot, and she said every time there is something absolutely horrendous that happens. I mean, this girl's ankle is likely to get the infection in her bone, and it is important that that abscess be dealt with. That's why they made it as an emergency for today. Look, Elizabeth, she's gone awaits another week and where will the infection be by then? 00:32:31 Speaker 1: Look, Elizabeth, I'll put you back to my producer Sam. We will get in touch with the health minister because this seems to be an intolerable situation. And surely if it was called and she was called in it was declared an emergency. She had an abscess. That makes no sense at all. So Elizabeth, just hold the line. Stacy, Good morning. 00:32:51 Speaker 12: Good morning, Graham, how are you good? 00:32:53 Speaker 10: Thanks? 00:32:54 Speaker 12: I would like to speak about this the bred vinel on some day. 00:32:58 Speaker 1: It's going to be a big one. 00:33:00 Speaker 12: It's going to be I'm a mad Stirt fan. 00:33:03 Speaker 1: You'd be feeling pretty confident. 00:33:05 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, they're awesome. 00:33:07 Speaker 7: This year. 00:33:07 Speaker 12: I reckon they can of the Ahl side. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, well let's not go anyway. 00:33:14 Speaker 12: I'm going, well, yeah, you're probably right, probably drawing along boat. I'm going with a very close friend of mine who's a Stirt fan, and with my father who's passed, has passed away, blessed his soul. I've bought a ticket for him, so there will be a photo of his seat and a Stirt beanie or a Stirt scarf next to us. Hopefully he's looking down from above. 00:33:37 Speaker 1: I'm sure he will be. 00:33:41 Speaker 12: I'm looking forward to the game and the best team win on the day, and hopefully dad's watching. 00:33:47 Speaker 1: I'm sure he will be. Stacy, thanks for sharing that story with us. It will be a big game. It will be with Sturt must be going favorite. But Glenlog I saw them beat my Nord last week and my was touch and go right at the end. But Glenelgo are worthy grand finalists. I said that through gritted teeth. But it will be big. We'll talk a bit more about the SNFL Grand Final a little bit later on this morning. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Five doble A Mornings with Graham Goodings. 00:34:14 Speaker 13: Well, the one missing piece of the jigsaw is who is going to be the next Treasurer of South Australia. We're going to call it here. It is our very good understanding that this morning the Premier, Peter Mallanawskis will get up and confirm that the current Transport Minister, Tom kots and tonis a former Treasurer Treasurer in the weather or Government, will be assuming the rains taking over from Stephen Mulligan as the next Treasurer of South Australia. It will be made official within a couple of hours. 00:34:45 Speaker 1: That's Penbo on breakfast this morning. Well, Stacy, I think we've got you know. Are you there, Stacy? 00:34:51 Speaker 14: Hello Graham, I'm here. 00:34:52 Speaker 7: Yes. 00:34:52 Speaker 14: Can you hear me? 00:34:53 Speaker 1: Ah, loud and clear as long as you can hear us. So what are we to make of this? I mean it does seem that it court initially the Premier off guard. 00:35:01 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think everyone. I was surprised when I saw this coming through yesterday afternoon. I was actually sitting at my mum's and bubs group and stepped out of the room for a minute because I was so shocked. I had to double check is this South Australia that the pity Premier and Treasurer resigning. Is it just from the cabinet? Has something happened, Was there a big blow up or is it from parliament all together? And yes, it seems like it is it is the latter and hearing them both on Brecky with Dave and Will this morning, they've given their respective reasons and you know it's going to be a huge loss for the government. They're two very senior ministers and parliamentarians. They've been there for a number of years. They know how parliament works. They know how the Labor Party works as well, which, as you sort of touched on, is the Labor Party is a big beast. And the fact that they could keep this quiet for a number of weeks. The Premier says he found out from both of them individually a few weeks ago, and the fact that they were able to keep this quiet and no one leaked it out of the party is is huge. I mean the Labor Party has always been better at that than the Liberal Party. But now yeah, it turns to who's going to replace them, Tom Coops Andtonas. I think is a good appointment for Treasurer. He's done it before. It'll be music to journo's is because I remember sitting in a number of budgets over the years, and I think the ones with Tom Coops and Tonas's treasurer were the most lively. He was always the treasurer who was more than happy to answer that question of if you could personify this budget, how would you describe it. I think he was the first one to personify his budget as a sexy woman in a red dress sweeping down the street. He always had a good description for how he wanted people to view his budget. So and I think that's you know, he was a good financial manager of the state. Well depending on you know, what people think, but he was a good communicator of his financial management of the state under the weather or government. He's got experience, so I think he'll be a good appointment there. 00:37:04 Speaker 1: So then did it surprise you that he didn't become treasurer under the current government. 00:37:10 Speaker 14: Well, I think the other role that he played is just as important with transport, transport and industry, especially at the moment with the South Road upgrade, and you needed someone strong in that role at the moment with

making they made a number of changes to the South road designs and all South corridor the t TOD so they needed someone in that role who was quite senior and a good communicator as well. So I'm going to be watching who moves into transport because it is a big portfolio. I would be surprised if Blair Boyer doesn't get a bit of a promotion. Obviously he's the Education Minister at the moment. I see him as a bit of a rising star in the party. He's an excellent communicator. You've done a number of interviews with him over the years, as have I, and I always leave my interviews with Blair Boyer feeling like I have learnt more and he doesn't really avoid the questions like most politicians do, so I do appreciate that when someone actually answers the questions and. 00:38:10 Speaker 1: Far between when that politicians unfortunately they. 00:38:13 Speaker 14: Are they are and doesn't matter what side of politics, what party is thought to. Yeah, so I'm quite refreshed after I talked to the Education minister. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a bit of a promotion. And some of the party's other rising stars going into the cabinet in Lucy Hood and Nadia Clancy, I think they'll make good appointments as well. Look, there is a gender card that we have to talk about. Losing a deputy premier like Susan Close, who's been a loyal foot soldier for the premier whenever he goes away, and she's been their front and center with the algal bloom disaster as well over the last few months. And kaya Mar going into the deputy role. Now, I think that's a good choice by the party. I don't it would have been easy for them. Not easy, but it would have been one decision that they would have considered to put a woman into the role to replace Susan Close, because it does look better. I will say I personally, as a female, I like it when I see a woman standing there and in leadership positions. I think it's good to have that representation. But I think if you're looking at the females in the cabinet, I'm not sure that any of them have more qualified than Kayam Mah And I think he'll be a good deputy to the Premier. He's a clear communicator as well, he's loyal, so I think he'll be a good deputy. 00:39:33 Speaker 1: Now, in any other political era, this could be seen as a free hit to the opposition. You know, the Deputy premier stepping down, a senior minister stepping down. We're only months from an election. What's going on with the government. Will the Liberal be able to capitalize on this? 00:39:49 Speaker 14: That was my first thought as well. I saw the news that unfortunately for the Opposition, I'm not sure there is much capital to gain out of this because of the way it's been communicated, and you know, the media orchestration of the announcement, the way it was announced, and having Stephen Mulligan and Susan close Bear at the press conference and having them out on Brecky Radio today as well to communicate why they've made this decision, and you know, maybe there were other

factors at play behind the scenes. They haven't said that, so we have to take them on their word that that wasn't the case. That they've both made these decisions for their lifestyle and their families and their lives outside of politics. We have to take them on their word for that. But I don't think there is much political capital to gain. You can't really begrudge someone for wanting to leave Parliament on their own term. That doesn't happen very often. 00:40:41 Speaker 1: That's the truth now, speaking of let's look at the other side of the house, Frank Pangallo, Would this be one of the great own goals of all time? 00:40:50 Speaker 12: Oh? 00:40:50 Speaker 11: Absolutely? 00:40:51 Speaker 14: And I saw the doorstop A couple of the TV networks stopped him in his office in the corridors of Parliament yesterday and I just thought, oh, Frank, I mean the use of AI to give evidence to a parliamentary committee. And you know then it turned out to be wrong. Is the main issue if you're going to use AI. We all know, even our kids in schools are being trained to use AI and use it appropriately in fact check it. You can't just take it as take it as gospel. It was a bit like when the Internet first came out. We knew that not everything on the Internet was true. Surprise, surprise, So we have the fact check. But now he's used AI to do it, and as well for something so political, you know, to fuel a conspiracy theory that he has that many scientists have come out and battered down the fact that the Detali nation plant has had an impact or caused the algo bloom as well. I think this is a huge own golf of Frank. At best, it's lazy and you know, do we want that from our politicians, our parliamentarians. Is that what South Australians deserves with their representatives? No, don't think so. It's a mistake. It's a misstep. Will it impact his chances of being re elected maybe? I'm not sure he had that much hope in the seat of weight anyway, So I don't know if this will change anyone's vote necessarily. But it's lazy. It's not a good look well lazy at bess, you know, deceiving it worse. 00:42:25 Speaker 1: Frank, you get a headline, Stacey, thank you so much for input today. I appreciate it. Can't let you go without asking. How's young Molly going. 00:42:32 Speaker 14: She's good, she's good. My husband Ben has this week off work actually, so they've had some nice bonding time. Want for a little walk with her at the moment, which is nice. It's been nice to have an extra set of hands at home to help with her this week. But she's doing well, she's growing, she's smiling a lot. I think we're about to get some giggles out of her. She's kind of making the laughing noise that's not quite there yet, and she's holding things in her hands, so. 00:42:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I have seen a poto. She's gorgeous with my producer Sam, Sam Daddo was holding her very proudly, and she's a winner. You've got a little charmer there. 00:43:08 Speaker 14: Oh thank you. 00:43:10 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:43:10 Speaker 14: I had to coller Sam into holding her while I while I rent to the bathroom while he was here for a catch up. 00:43:18 Speaker 1: And when are you back with us? 00:43:21 Speaker 14: I'll be back in January, back on air in afternoons in January. So still have a couple months. I'm at home with Molly, which is nice, but don't worry. I'm engaged. I'm listening. I really enjoyed your interview with Susan Lay earlier earlier today. I thought it was refreshing to hear from her, to see that she was in South Australia. And again I think she actually answered most of your questions and she was quite open and honest and saying, yeah, we got it wrong at the last election. I'm listening to people and yeah, we'll be formulating our policies as a liberal opposition. So like I enjoyed listening to her and hearing from her as opposition. 00:43:54 Speaker 1: Later, yeah, I think she can only say we got it wrong for so long and we do need to hear some policies. But it was good to have it coming into the studio and I invited to come back anytime she wants. 00:44:04 Speaker 14: Yeah, I heard that. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: I like that. 00:44:06 Speaker 14: Always put them on the spot there. 00:44:07 Speaker 1: That was good, Stacy, Thanks for your time. Great to have a chat. Stacy Lee on State Politics eight double two three double double will take a break back shortly. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. 00:44:20 Speaker 1: Had a very good morning to you. Hope we find you well on this Friday, the nineteenth day of September. Hi, Graham. If Australia reaches net zero and the other countries around us haven't, does that mean that our floods, cyclones and bush fires will be lessened or gone altogether? If not, what is the point why bankrupt the country? Janis you pose the question? Nobody can give us the right answer to that, because as we contribute one point one percent of the world's pollution, we can be net zero tomorrow and it will have absolutely no impact. We might all feel a lot better about it, we'll all be a lot poorer and we'll have made no impact at all. So people they rub the hands again and say yes, but you know, we've got to lead the world. We've got to you know, show the world that it's the right thing to do. Yeah, that's all well and good that, but if the economy is suffering, industry is leaving by the dreiload, you can't rely on your power. All this to make a point that in reality has absolutely no impact at all. Mark says, perhaps the federal Liberal opposition can develop a cost effective climate change policy banning land clearing. Thank you for that, Mark, Well. RSPCA workers in their South Australia are taking industrial action after years of what they claim are being overworked, underpaid and ignored, joining us now as the United Workers Union Allied Industries lead Kelly Edwards Kelly, good morning to you. 00:45:44 Speaker 15: Thanks Brian, good morning to you too. Yes, by PIA workers

members of the United Workers Unions take my story, expect to take industrial action today. 00:45:54 Speaker 1: So what is the major grievance? 00:45:58 Speaker 15: Why work is it taking actions? For the last eighteen months, workers have been negotiating that managements do come to the table with a fair offer. As you said, staff are underpaid, they're overworked and burning out. And this action is about respect, respect for the people who dedicate their lives to protecting animals, respect for the animals themselves. 00:46:18 Speaker 1: So how many workers are involved? 00:46:22 Speaker 15: We have I think over sixty per cent of the workforce involved in the industrial action today. 00:46:30 Speaker 1: And I mean the RSPCA is a not for profit. It does receive funding, doesn't it from the government? 00:46:38 Speaker 9: Yes, it does. 00:46:40 Speaker 1: Now what is the RSPCA's view. Why aren't they prepared to meet the demands of the workers. 00:46:49 Speaker 15: They keep coming back and saying that they're a nonprofit organization. There's only so much money that they have to pass to the workers. They've said they've come out with their best offer, but the members that is not their best offer. It doesn't the work is a saying that what the offer is it's not fair. They don't think that it's a respectful offer in line with the cost of living. 00:47:17 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a claim that I see that there's an attempt to slash inspectors pay by nearly twenty percent, remove on call allowance is worth more than ten thousand dollars a year, and reject basic mental health support. That doesn't seem like an improvement in playing conditions at all. 00:47:34 Speaker 15: No, And yeah, absolutely right, Rame, it's not an improvement, and that's exactly how the members of United Workers Union see it. There's a lot of cycle social hazards in line with doing the work that they do. Our inspectors of ore the frontline. They deal with prudy, cruelty, and neglect and trauma every single day. Cycle social hazards and mental health is a real issue across the rs PCA, but not only us. The RSPCA costs the animal care organization itself and that's something that the RSPCA really needs to focus on. 00:48:07 Speaker 1: So has the strike begun? 00:48:10 Speaker 15: Not their yet. The strike will kick off at twelve o'clock. 00:48:14 Speaker 1: Today, Okay, Well keep us informed. That's sir Kelly Edwards, United Workers Union. Regarding RSPCA workers who are taking industrial action, they say years of being overworked, underpaid, and ignored. Over eighty five percent of staff voted no to RSPCA's deal that attempted to slash inspectors pay by nearly twenty percent, to remove on call allowances worth more than ten thousand dollars a year, and reject basic mental health support. Eight double two three double double oh is my number from the text line morning. Why does Jim Charmers call people that don't agree with them? Names, and if that was the AFL, he'd be out four week

suspension. Good on you, Frank, Yeah it was yesterday. I don't know if you heard it that, Jim char You can't have an opposing point of view to our Treasurer, Jim Charmers anyone that is against the climate change or against the moves that the government wants to put into force. This is what he had to say. 00:49:12 Speaker 16: Worst possible outcome from an economic point of view and an environmental point of view would be if we walked away from net zero, as our political opponents want us to do. Now, the Liberal Party is run now by this weird collection of cookers and crackpots. And nowhere is that more obvious than when it comes to net zero. 00:49:32 Speaker 1: So if you question the government about its moves toward net zero, you're a cooker or a crackpot. Now, Treasurer, you know you're in power, you're in a position of significance. Surely better than that. I mean that is pretty ordinary. So you cannot hold an opposing point of view and have a reasonable argument or discussion because by you you're just a cooker or a crackpot. Are you sincere about that? 00:50:01 Speaker 2: Well? 00:50:02 Speaker 1: I wonder if you would say that to the President of the United States, call him a cooker a crackpot because he's abandoned the quest for net zero altogether. Other world leaders, Chinese leader Ge isn't the Prime minister going to have a meeting? Well, maybe with the president soon. And we know what Donald Trump is like. Donald Trump has already said that he's going to bring up about what an ABC journalist challenged him about. He's just as likely if he hears what Jim Chalmers has said to say. You've got this treasurer bloke who believes that I'm a cooker and a crackpot. Surely, Treasurer, you are better than that. Eight double two three double o doubleow Tom the perfect person to run the state's finances. He will run it like his family business into the ground, very unkind. Let's take a call Roger. 00:50:57 Speaker 10: Good morning, Oh, good morning. 00:51:00 Speaker 17: Look, Jim Charmers is the last person to start passing prospersions conspersions on people. He's a failed treasurer. His budgets are absolutely the worst budgets that we've ever seen in our history. Our deficits never been so bad in our history that zero was synding us broke. It's I think someone on your oad I said our electricity prices will come down thirteen percent, but they just went up ten percent. So even if you say they're coming down thirteen percent, well it's still not going to even be close to where we used to be six years ago. And our manufacturing industry is closing like never before. They hate the mining industry, they hate the gas industry, they hate the oil industry, and yet those are the ones that bring in the mighty big bucks to keep our hospitals open. There's nobody, very relatively anybody who aunt one hundred thousand dozen painting cacks. So this imbecile charmers. We've got the worst prime minister ever in history apart from Kevin Rudd. So this country's

young the pack. 00:52:14 Speaker 1: Heh, thanks Roger. There are quite a few people that think the way you do. But you not you personally, but you the electorate voted this government in. I think what we always must remember about this that labor got to power not with the majority of Australians wanting them there. It was what about thirty five percent of the vote, so two out of three people didn't necessarily want Labor and Power. It's just that they got more votes. I mean the major parties. What's thirty five percent or so for the Labor Party and thirty one thirty two percent for the Liberal National Coalition. The growth in support for the minorities and independence is absolutely on the rise because people are fed up with the major parties. So while Anthony Albanezi and his party can smile saying we've got what ninety four seats in the House, you know we've absolutely blitzed the coalition and that's true. They do not have the support of the majority of Australians and it's about time we spoke up if we disagree, Hi Gram. Yesterday mister Chalmers said in action on carbon emissions will cost us more in the long run, but he refuses to give us the cost of reducing emissions, one thing that is blatantly obvious. In action will cost us nothing. Thank you for that, Clarry. Well, some of the figures he's pulled out of I don't quite know where. They will not say what it is going to cost us overall, but they will tell us that electricity prices could tumble by one thousand dollars a year per households. Over the next decade, Jim Chalmer says Australians will be extra thirty six thousand dollars per person wealthier. Just let's pick a figure out of the air. Now, I've got to state this again about this one thousand dollars year lowering power bills. What do you have to do to get that? It's not you know you will just automatically get one thousand dollars off your power bill. You have to fulfill certain requirements. You have to fully electrify. That means transitioning to electric transportation. That means if you don't have an EV at the moment, you will need to buy one. All your appliances will have to be electric. Heating, you have to get rid of gas heating. If you have a gas stove, a gas oven, a gas water heater, they will all have to go. If you don't have solar panels and battery storage, you will have to get solar panels and battery storage. Now they say it would potentially cut energy costs by as much as seventy percent. So there you go. You've got to buy all these things. The average price to go all electric, including the car, would cost the average three bedroom household between sixty five and eighty three thousand dollars a year. Sixty five and eighty three thousand dollars a year. So if you have to start from scratch, Oh yes, you're going to save one thousand dollars a year. So how long will it take before you will start recouping your money? Well, you'll start recouping it straight away, but you won't break even for about sixty years. Sixty

years? Did they tell us that? Did they tell us that at all? Of course they didn't tell us that. I mean, this is this is the frustration of it all. What are your thoughts? 00:55:24 Speaker 2: Eight? 00:55:24 Speaker 1: Double two three double oh double, Oh, we'll take a break back shortly. 00:55:28 Speaker 2: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. 00:55:31 Speaker 1: And that's not what I wanted to play this. This is what I'm playing from Tiger. 00:55:37 Speaker 10: I'm fighting fury from Tiger. 00:55:41 Speaker 2: Any weather, you. 00:55:42 Speaker 5: Will see a slipper green risking. 00:55:49 Speaker 2: Every half. 00:55:53 Speaker 18: As we see this, son, what don't we say? 00:56:04 Speaker 1: I think we're heading for a big one. I'm sure we're heading for a big one. Versus Glenelg two teams that have proved to be the best for the year, much and alls. I hate to admit it after Norwid just bowed out, but it's going to be huge. Darren Chandler is the s NFL. See how he joined us now, Darren, good morning to you. 00:56:21 Speaker 19: Good morning Graham. 00:56:22 Speaker 1: They're all big, but this one looks like being one of the biggest for all for a long time. 00:56:27 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:56:27 Speaker 19: It should be a great day, great celebration of footy, not just I guess the sample Grand Final, but celebrating footy at every level right across the state, culminating in you know, a great game of footing in a great atmosphere here Atlado over. 00:56:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're building it as a festival of footy. So there's a lot happening off the field as well. 00:56:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, there is. 00:56:49 Speaker 19: We've got hundreds of sample junior young players that will do a parade of champions around the over all those teams that won Grand Finals this year. We've got metal presentations in the McGlothlin room for our for our best junior players in the state. We've got inclusive league Best of Best and Fairest awards function on as well. We've got activities for kids outside and inside the ground, activations from our partners. You know, it's just it should be some really good pre much entertainment and after party in the McGary room. So it's really big, built something for everyone, and even if you're not a footy fan, and bring your kids along and have a great data lad over. 00:57:36 Speaker 1: How many people are you expecting? 00:57:39 Speaker 19: We'd like to think we'll get sort of somewhere between thirty thirty five thousand, which is what we've been achieved the last couple of years with you know, we've stirred who are up and about and then you know we've got a good strong backing as well. 00:57:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's no question about that. And s a NFL footy is great. I mean, I think you can be a lover of AFL, but to watch grassroots for I mean, and this is a really good standard. The umpiring is better, if I might say that, And you know it's it's good close client competition. 00:58:09 Speaker 19: It has been in their final series today, it's been been really close. You know you mentioned earlier Norwood very unlucky. They were probably the best team last week and unfortunately couldn't get the job done in front of goals. But the games have been first class. You know, the competition's been been really good. Still have been the standout. They standout all year really so they're going to be really hard to beat to. Jason Killich their chair and Sue during their CEO. They just run a fantastic club. You know, they lead on and off the field and you know, having teams in the league, the reserves and they wanted the underrating, the credit to the ethicuity club. They've set themselves up for a massive year. 00:58:52 Speaker 1: Futty seems pretty healthy on field at the moment. How's the s A NFL doing off the field? 00:58:58 Speaker 19: Really good, really strong. You know, we have a responsibility to the game right across the board. This year we'll hit seventy thousand participants in the state register participants for the first time ever. That's a huge milestone and working closely with the AFL to aim to have a million kids playing playing footy in Australia by twenty and thirty one. So that's really strong at talent pathways giving young kids an opportunity to get through to the highest level and that's going really well. Under sixteen girls won the championships the third time in a row. Our underrating boys won the championship this year, so there's really good talent coming through and you know, and then we're just committed to giving every person an opportunity to play a great game. And that's whether that's wheelchair footy or whether that's inclusive league, walking footy, new name, and we want to see get anyone out there in the community have an opportunity to play footage. 00:59:54 Speaker 1: And it's still fair to say that SNFL level footy is the second best competition in the nation, isn't it. 01:00:00 Speaker 19: Oh, we love to think that. I'm sure visions good, Yeah, structure is good, O. Our crowds till that. Our broadcast numbers are fantastic and the CALLI foody is very good as well. So yeah, we lot to think that. And now I think your fans so we'll see that on them on Sunday. 01:00:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, look forward to it. Darren, great to chat. Darren Chandler, s NFL CEO. Expecting a really big game. If you can't get along, and it'd be great to be there among thirty thirty five thousand people. You can always hear it on five double A. Sam tug Wall is leading the charge. Tuggers. Good morning to you. 01:00:36 Speaker 20: Rayan, good morning to you. 01:00:37 Speaker 10: Looking forward to Sunday. 01:00:38 Speaker 20: Gee, we've got two massive clubs, don't we in sample context playing up against each other a rematch of a Grand final we saw two years ago. 01:00:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, and I mean it's fair to say that stird Hall been the best side for most of the year. But Glenelg they're not that far behind. 01:00:55 Speaker

20: No, they're certainly not. 01:00:56 Speaker 10: I mean well, in. 01:00:57 Speaker 20: Regards to how Glenoga have been going. They've won the last two flags. They're looking for a historic three peak. They've never done that in the history. So that's what's on the line for the Bays and for Stu. It's almost a near perfect season, just the one blip against the Crows in the last home and away round. Other than that they have been smashing records left Rotten Center in twenty twenty five. So you've definitely got the best two teams on the park. They're one and two on the ladder. It's expactly what everyone wanted. I think for the final day in September for samful season twenty twenty. 01:01:26 Speaker 1: Five, I don't know how I'm going for because as a leg supporter, I was so disappointed last week, so near and yet so far. 01:01:34 Speaker 20: How Tristan Binder missing that shit shot from directly in front a long way out. But God, that was a heartbreaker, wasn't it. But that's footy, isn't it. And that's what you get with finals. We've had some absolute thrillers, and I reckon we're going to get another one. Glenelgi have been at the center of a couple of really close finals this final series. 01:01:51 Speaker 10: So far. 01:01:52 Speaker 20: They've lost by sorry, they won by a point over the Crows. They won by two over Norward, So hey, we might have another thriller on our hands for the Grand Final. 01:02:00 Speaker 1: How about you? Do you get the nerves ahead of calling a Grand Final? 01:02:04 Speaker 2: Oh? 01:02:04 Speaker 20: I think that there's always the fun and enjoyment about the Grand Final. I don't think it's nerves so much as it's just a real excitement and anticipation. Everyone just looks forward to such a big occasion. What about these like You've got so much history on the part this weekend, with just who they are and how passionate they are as a footy club they're looking for a fifteenth flag. And then Glennelle, who have been sort of the bridesmaid for so many of their years and their history, So this is another opportunity for them to get there. This is probably their most successful era. They're in their fifth Grand Final in seven years, so there's just so much to play for for both clubs. They're both proud. They're going to have loud supporters. We had a really strong attendance to at the prelim final. 01:02:44 Speaker 10: I think was the. 01:02:45 Speaker 20: Best crowd we've seen ten thousand at the prelims since two thousand and eight, so if that's anything to suggest, the Grand final crowd will be outstanding. 01:02:53 Speaker 1: So much look forward to who you're calling with. 01:02:56 Speaker 20: Patrick Goldsmith who's done a great job already's heard him throughout the last couple of weeks on five Double eight to the Premium last week. Matt Panos is going to be joining us the King. He knows all about samful Grand Finals, he's been there many times, one of Jack Odie medal himself and Sam Daddo, who's your trustee

producer at the moment. He's going to be roving the boundary and hopefully on the ground with the players, the winning players after the match as well, and we'll hear from all the emotions on ground once the final siren sounds. 01:03:21 Speaker 1: And when does our coverage begin on Sunday will. 01:03:24 Speaker 20: Be live from two o'clock. I believe we'll have Darren Chandler or Matt Doldig with us in the commentary box before the game as well. Will go through all out the season rap with them and how the pregame entertainment sounding and gets straight into the game when it starts. 01:03:37 Speaker 10: At two thirty. 01:03:37 Speaker 1: Good on your Tiger's good calling. Thanks Graham, Sam Tugbill calling the big SNFL Grand Final. I didn't ask him who he's going for. Well, maybe he needs to keep independent point of view. But who do you think is going to win? Will it be the Double Blues or the Bays? Let's know your thought? Eight double two three double o double oh is the number? Give us a call. Mister Goodings. Need to get back to opening up your program with more subjects than just politics all the time. As if you're fixated on politics, get more public interest items back on your program instead of day after day raving of our politics. As if you could do better, perhaps you should take your soapbox and run in the next election. Okay, thank you very much for that. I think we cover a broad range of subjects. Probably politics takes a big percentage of our time because politics impacts each and every one of us. But you know, thanks for your text, Jason says one nation will be a huge contender next election. Watch this space. You have to wonder where it's heading, don't you, Because the major parties are losing support, the major parties are losing appeal. And when a government can be elected with you know, thirty five percent of first preference votes, you know that people are being disenchanted or are disenchanted with the major parties unless maybe this is the this is the why it's going. Maybe we'll have all independence and minor parties in years to come. Is that tenable? Could that work? Please let people know you vote for independence. You need to know where the vote goes. Climate change makes millions for the government. Hi Graham, I'm sickened by the state of politics in this country. We have no opposition with the current liberals and anyone who thinks Albanesi gives a toss of illustrator is deluded. Okay, so does China, India, Bangladesh and other poor Asian countries that burn our fossil fuels that we export on mass to them breathe different air to us. Why then, should first world countries try to achieve net zero when second and third world countries cannot achieve it. First world countries need to work towards getting the worst polluters towards becoming net zero. David, thank you for that are something I did want to mention. A facial recognition. What are your thoughts about that? Having cameras. We know their cameras everywhere these days, but cameras that can look at your face and work out ejectively who you are. Kmart has been in strife for breaching Australian law by using facial recognition. They had facial recognition cameras in twenty eight stores, scanning every customer's face, particularly at return counters, to identify people suspected of fraud. Royle Retail argued that this was about protecting staff and reducing theft related conflict. The Commission ruled that shoppers' rights were compromised. FRT captures and converts facial images into biometric templates, a category of sensitive information, and it requires strong legal protections. Customers weren't informed or given the choice to opt out. Critics warned that such covert monitoring creates a chilling effect, eroding trust between consumers and retailers. At the same time, retail workers do face real risk abuse and fraud incidents arising, and employers are under pressure to improve security. The central question is whether safety justifies invasive surveillance. So what are your thoughts, folks? I know has got a strife with this. They were told that they can't have these facial recognition cameras. Then they put together video of their staff being assailed and assaulted and verbally abused, and they said that they really needed some way to protect their staff. So where have we got to. I think, you know, we do need privacy protected. But if you're in store, in public, in a public place, does it concern you that much that they're using facial recognition technology on you, knowing that if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to worry about. But they're just trying to identify people who are known offenders, who are thought to be offenders. So yeah, I'm in two minds. I do not like our privacy invaded. And let's face it, there are cameras everywhere now in shopping centers. You know, you walk down the main street there and Rundle Moore, you know, you go to the airport, their cameras every we need to accept that. Is that a bad thing? Potentially yes, if managed properly, I don't think so. But these facial recognition cameras do take it a little bit further. But Kmart assured the Commission that once the scanning of you is done and you're found to be not an offender or a potential offender, it is deleted immediately. Nothing is stored, nothing is kept on record. So it's something to be considered or consider. 01:08:28 Speaker 10: What are your thoughts? 01:08:29 Speaker 1: Eight double two three double o double oh Back after the news five double. 01:08:33 Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings. 01:08:36 Speaker 1: At night minutes past eleven, five double A on a Friday, and at this time of morning, as we do, we speak with the media mogul, media expert, media guru, media commentator Nick Hayes, Nick, good morning. 01:08:49 Speaker 10: Good morning Graham. I'll take all of those. Thank you. That is outstanding. That it's going to be my ring tone. 01:08:55 Speaker 1: Being a grow supporter. I'm

sort of a bit flat at the moment, you know, on an upward to next year. But footy, where is it now? 01:09:04 Speaker 10: Yeah? 01:09:04 Speaker 18: Speaking of flat, the advertisers about sixteen pages short every day this week, just because they've got nothing to talk about him around the AFL. 01:09:13 Speaker 1: Sales are probably down. 01:09:14 Speaker 18: Well, it was a shocking game on Friday night. 01:09:16 Speaker 10: It was terrible. 01:09:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't We didn't perform the way we should have. 01:09:21 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:09:21 Speaker 18: I think you and I were discussing this last week, the build up to this, and there was a sense that even those dreaded words of out in straight sets could become a reality, and obviously did. But that game, I think we're all watching. When sam Mitchell was walking off after the huddle before the first quarter, he looked very different to Nixy. 01:09:44 Speaker 10: Look. 01:09:44 Speaker 18: He looked very different. He looked like his campaign hadn't finished. And I don't know if you could tell it that early, but they were the real deal. And for all the Adelaide supporters out there, I think you know they're probably only too glad that they're not actually having to front up this weekend to see another performance like that. 01:10:00 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:10:00 Speaker 1: Well, I think it'd be fair to say that any observer of foot he would say that our campaign was done. A few weeks before the finals were very few good game. We played very poorly against Mordenary sides and I think the side had run out of steam, and I think the feeling is that although we finished on top after the finals, we have active actively finished fifth. We finished fifth and that's more of a represent We're about a fifth ranked side at the moment. We're we're not up there with the top heel on. 01:10:32 Speaker 18: I know this is not a sports program, but I think for a lot of Adelie supporters, a lot of talk around Isaac Rankin and his lack of ability to be on the field was a big thing. But look, compare South Australia to Western Australia right now. A week earlier they were knocked out, Freemantle was knocked out and it's exactly the same thing. Sport completely comes off the boil. It's now everyone, let's go and mow the garden. 01:10:57 Speaker 1: Looking for something else to do, both the lawns. In a lot of cases it's time for a husband and wife to re equate how six months. So yeah, it is funny. I mean, we love our footing well not everyone of course, but so many of us do and when it's gone it leaves a big hole. 01:11:16 Speaker 10: And we talk about this at media stable quite a lot. 01:11:18 Speaker 18: Is that you'll see now that with AFL and the AFL has becomes such a juggernaut that it's not just the season. It is a three hundred and sixty five days a year kind of business. But content now gets shorter. We have less broadcasts of the football, we're talking less about it. So now a lot of more things get done, a lot of federal politics gets discussed, a lot of real things that matter, I suppose to people. Is now the opportunity and for a lot of brands and businesses out there, this is the time to engage media. 01:11:48 Speaker 1: That is interesting, yeah, because you get all consumed when do I see the figure that there are more journalists covering football than there are players in the AFL. 01:11:58 Speaker 18: It is such a big district, massive and when you talk about that, then you also then go, well, actually, there's more journalists covering football than politics and general news items, because it's such a big part of what we do and such an important thing. And it is a little trick for all the businesses out there. If you've ever got any bad news to deliver, you deliver it after twelve o'clock on a Friday. Because we're so sports orientated that as gets out, so when those federal politicians are putting out press releases, around ten o'clock eleven o'clock in the morning on a Friday. You know, it's not good news. 01:12:33 Speaker 1: Because everyone's gone to lunch and talking about the footy on Friday night. 01:12:36 Speaker 18: So it gets you know, it gets buried and no one looks at But if you've got good news to tell, you always delivered on a Monday. 01:12:42 Speaker 1: Speaking of journalists, what about the ABC journalist I had a bit of a running with Donald Trump. 01:12:46 Speaker 18: Yeah, the ABC's John Lyons. Look, he was asking a question at a press conference, you know, no different to the kind of questions that he gets asked all the time. But Donald Trump has had a strong control over his journalists. He obviously has his own media stream with social media that he puts out, but he also is very pointed to those journalists that are quite hostile to him. And he's pointed out one of our own ABC journalists over there in America, and so much so that he's now been banned on the London tour. 01:13:20 Speaker 10: Now, Graham, you know, when you ban. 01:13:22 Speaker 18: A journalist, I mean, all they are doing is asking the questions on behalf you and I on behalf of the public. And it was a fairly pointed one around his business dealings. But the thing that's got bigger here is that we've got the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezy going over there next week and almost to the point where Donald Trump is suggesting, Hey, you guys want to get along well with me right now, you're not a good journalist and really really gam a good serve on social media as well. 01:13:50 Speaker 2: Well. 01:13:50 Speaker 1: I look, that could go further with Donald Trump because we know he's sort of vindictive. And Jim Chalmers yesterday came out and said people who are opposing climate change and the reality cookers and crackpots. Now Donald Trump falls into the category of someone who's a climate denier. If he got to hear that the Treasure of Australia is calling him a cooker and a crackbody, might ask Albo to explain. 01:14:13 Speaker 18: Well, when

you've got and Jim Chalmer's made a big mistake there, I mean, you do not call people that. You do not call that people that are in any form, whether it be in media, social media, even around the halls of Parliament. Now, because that's a reflection among the people. If you want people to follow you and go along with you, bring them along, don't throw names at them. Yeah, don't point the finger at them. And you know, it's not too different to what's going on in the United States, just Donald Trump just does it with a lot more aggressiveness and a lot more forked tongue. 01:14:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about I mean Stephen Colbert, a late night show host who's been vitriolic in his criticism of Donald Trump gone, and now Jimmy Kimmel gone. 01:14:59 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:15:00 Speaker 18: The power that the president has and on the networks and the people, it is incredible. But you've got to remember this is that they wouldn't do that if their audience didn't demand it, or they didn't think that they could make a dollar out of it. So there must be some pull or some play from Donald Trump's perspective. There is a lot of people that support Donald Trump. There's no denying that there's a lot of people in here in Australia, in South Australia that support Donald Trump. But there's a lot that don't. And sometimes they are the more quiet ones as well. So there's a financial decision around that, no doubt, And there could be a lot more at play. But if you have a crack at Donald Trump, be wary of what might come after that. 01:15:48 Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio was Nick Hays. We talk about all things media locally and abroad. And if you have any questions of Nick, give us a call now eight double two three double o doublow. We're going to take a break, Nick. Then I want to talk to you about ayan z's big week. 01:16:01 Speaker 10: They haven't had a good week. 01:16:03 Speaker 2: Cram five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings had. 01:16:08 Speaker 1: A very good morning to you. On this Friday, the nineteenth day of September. I have with me Nick Hayes in the studio. If you have a question of Nick on any media matter, he'd be more than happy to answer it, But not so much media. I want to talk to you about the A and Z bank at the moment. What sort of week have they have? 01:16:23 Speaker 10: They've had a shocker. They've had a shocker, Graham. 01:16:25 Speaker 18: I mean, honestly, these banks, the Big four, spends so much money in building brand, building profile, building trust and assex come out this week and find them two hundred and forty million dollars. And this is only just this week. Only last week we were talking about them cutting four and a half thousand jobs. 01:16:44 Speaker 1: H that's right. 01:16:46 Speaker 18: If you're an A and Z customer, out there right now. I'd be interested to hear if you're actually planning to leave the A and Z, because it is absolutely unbelievable that you know their behavior and then also I guess their attitude towards their customers and going to cut all those jobs, but their customers will stay with them, Graham, because according to the stats and the figures here, they actually depend on the fact that you will not move because apathy and our I. 01:17:19 Speaker 10: Guess consistent behavior around our banking behavior stays we won't move to another bank. 01:17:24 Speaker 1: Wow. I was just going to say to you, you know, so do you reckon? There'll be a great lot of people sort of saying that's it. I'm done with the ANZ. I'm going somewhere else. You don't reckon? They move, No, they don't. And that's and you know that again is the arrogance of the banks in the way that they go about it, is that they know you won't move, because as much as you go and test and see what it is, it's just too much trouble or bother to change over banks when it. 01:17:46 Speaker 18: Actually is very simple and easy to do. So it's been a bad, bad Fortnite for the A and Z and look, you know, they'll cop it on the chin and maybe lose a few customers along the way. But I think you'll probably say that it'll it'll blow away. 01:18:04 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember where your banks were revered. You've got a little money box south Stame bank for savings, or where it was in your little money box at home. You used to your bank your money at school once a week. And you know banks were you know, your parents had talked about or going to the bank and it's most important, better put on my best suit and so forth. But you know, and that's deteriorated to the point. I remember many years ago at home loan with a bank. I went mentioned one of the big ones and I noticed they were offering a half a percent cheaper. And I went in and said, look, I've alan I want to take advantage of this deal, and they said, oh no, this is only for new customers. I said, hang, I'm not I've been with you for twenty years and you're offering someone walking in off the street half a percent better than me. Yeah, and well that's it, mister. Good thing's bad luck. 01:18:54 Speaker 18: Yeah, it's the foxtale approach to or you know, only two new customers. Let's treat our current customers like absolute rubbish. 01:19:02 Speaker 10: But you know, in. 01:19:03 Speaker 18: Search of that new customer, a lot of these big brands have got a lot to learn about, you know, creating that sense of loyalty for a brand. And and I've got to say that in recent times, brand loyalty just doesn't exist any longer because it's just too difficult to maintain. But the anomaly here is the banks. They know that people won't move from them. So you know, I've got a similar story with the old name them, the Commonwealth Bank. I've got everything with the Commonwealth Bank, but I don't have my home loan with them, and after numerous attempts and times to do that, they refuse to see me as a viable investment. 01:19:41 Speaker 10: My god, Well, okay, I'll go to another one. 01:19:43 Speaker 18: But now I get hit up every six

months from their banking people saying would you like to bring your homelane over? 01:19:50 Speaker 10: Nikolv. 01:19:51 Speaker 1: Now, I think you mentioned the word apathy before, and I think that's a lot of the case that we as a stranger, She'll be right, you know, it's okay. I but if we said no, hang on, this isn't good enough. Yeah, you know we want a better deal or we're moving. 01:20:05 Speaker 18: Yeah, Well, the listeners out there, you are very powerful if you move, if you start doing the things that are changing behaviors and reacting to it and punishing for that kind of behavior. If you do that in numbers, they will react to that. If you don't, nothing goes on, nothing happens, So it just continues on. 01:20:27 Speaker 1: Now, a couple of hours before you came in, sitting exactly where you are, we had the Federal Opposition leader, Susan Lee in the studio. Now, I know you were in a meeting, so you didn't hear it, but I was quite impressed with her. I must admit she didn't answer all the questions that I'd like to too, but she played the role of a politician. How are you assaysing Susan Lee's first few months as leader of the opposition. 01:20:50 Speaker 18: Look, she's got a tough gig. She's got a very tough gig in front of her. 01:20:54 Speaker 10: I have missed it. 01:20:55 Speaker 18: I did miss that interview, although she's kept the seat very warm for me. Graham, the I think did a very good job last week getting just in a napajinper Price off her front bench and sending a strong message to the rest of the Libs, hey stick stay in line here. 01:21:14 Speaker 10: We've got a bit of a job to do. 01:21:17 Speaker 18: We're two and a half years out from a federal election, so anything that goes on that news poll that came out suggesting that this is the worst numbers that we've ever seen for a liberal government or a liberal opposition government, it is. It is really non It doesn't really matter two and a half years out, she's got a lot to work with. I thought she did a great job dealing with Jacinta. I think Jacinta will come back. I think she's an important part of the success. 01:21:43 Speaker 1: She's still important not to I mean, she's a rock star. Really, she is a very very talented performer. 01:21:51 Speaker 18: But if she doesn't take that little slap on the wrist well and then starts to perform in the negatively and throwing barbs everywhere, then she's only going to be the problem. And the Liberals at the moment are in extreme danger of being completely irrelevant, and we need a strong Liberal party to be a viable opposition for a successful democracy. Look at the state government here. Peter mallan Askus is probably the most popular premier in Australia right now, without question, without question, without question, because there's no opposition. The only people that are holding the premiere to account is the media, and the media almost feels like they can't go too hard on him either because he's actually doing a pretty

good job. But if that Liberal Party doesn't get back on track and start being a viable opposition, then we're not going to have a government that's going to serve the people because it will get arrogant, it will become one that will be self serving and will be it won't be a good end for us. 01:22:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, the point you make about you know, we're still two and a half years out from the election. I think we in the media are so close to it. Every move, every poll comes out is significant. But if you take a step back, the average person probably doesn't give a damn about the polling figures at the moment. Only around election time do they think what's going on here? Who's got the policies that I'm interested in? 01:23:12 Speaker 18: Oh great, you're not suggesting that the media belts it up a little And now, look, but we monitor and we look at what's going on and the general. 01:23:21 Speaker 10: Feel of people. 01:23:22 Speaker 18: We're at the barometer of public opinion, a lot of what we're discussing here in media, But it's two and a half years out. If Susan Lee can get her team together, she can be a viable opposition and take on Albanzi's labor government. 01:23:39 Speaker 1: Well, Nick, almost time to go, but it's crystal ball gazing time. What have you got for us? 01:23:44 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:23:44 Speaker 18: Look, we last week we looked at the Algill bloom and what is happening there, and some really good media coverage over the last weeks and wrap around from the Advertiser. Nine and seven have been covering it fairly extensively, as has ten. 01:23:58 Speaker 10: A bit more bit more. 01:24:00 Speaker 18: I want to stay on this a little bit, Graham, because it is important. There will be a lot of parents out there right now that are getting letters from their schools suggesting that they're worried about the Algill bloom and that they might be moving camps or maybe moving sporting events because of this. So it just heads up on that we will be following this even closer, because even the Brecky Boys this week really did get stuck into whose responsibility is this? 01:24:29 Speaker 15: Is this? 01:24:29 Speaker 10: Federal government? State government? 01:24:31 Speaker 21: People are going to start We've got to really work this out and work this out quickly, because this is an absolute disaster happening right in front of our eyes, but it doesn't seem to have any solutions to it. 01:24:42 Speaker 1: Nick, great to have you, and again thank thanks for your time today. Nick Hayes from Media Stable, who joins us to talk on media matters this time every Thursday. Well being sworn at this very moment, Klaiah Maher Attorney General and Deputy Premier. Tom Kittson turnus Treasurer, Minister for Energy, and my Emily Burke, the Minister l Infrastructure and Transport, and Lucy Hood, Minister for Climate and Environment and Water. The Premier will be holding a press conference shortly and we'll bring you the latest shortly. 01:25:13 Speaker

2: Five A Mornings with Graham. 01:25:15 Speaker 1: Goodings as we enter the final thirty minutes of the show. Thanks for dropping by. Over the past few weeks, we've been on the search for seven sensational South Australians over seventy those who continue to achieve, to lead and inspire, and today I'm very pleased to be joined by our fifth recipient, Gary Collis. Gary, good morning to you, Good morning Graham, Thanks for dropping by today. It's a pleasure and you dropped a bottle by too. Tell me about that. 01:25:39 Speaker 5: Well, that's I've been fairly lucky in life. I've had different chapters helping people. And a new chapter in my life was when I turned seventy, which will be five years ago on Sunday. My wife kids have got tired of me talking about do my own wine label and Christine introduced me to a market in Lading and as a result we now I now have a little hobby wine sales if I can call it that, and that's our flagship wine. And after twelve months of discussions with a good friend in Nairobi, we're actually taking a delegation to Nairobi in November to talk about that wine. The pigs as Chiraz going on the shelves in Nairobi. 01:26:24 Speaker 10: Wow. 01:26:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, So just you're never too old to start something new ground. 01:26:29 Speaker 1: Not at all. So where does this wine hail from? 01:26:32 Speaker 5: It's the grapes have grown from the river land and wine's made in Barossa and we just can't sell enough of it. It's a great wine and a lot of people traveling to the Adelaide Hills, especially to the Mount Torrence Hotel and enjoys Sunday afternoon and a glass of the pigs are Charaz. 01:26:52 Speaker 1: It's a very impressive label. 01:26:54 Speaker 10: I must say that. 01:26:55 Speaker 5: Thank you. 01:26:55 Speaker 1: So tell us a bit of your background. I mean, you know we're talking as a sensational over seventies. But where did it all begin for you? 01:27:03 Speaker 5: I guess it all began. I came with my parents and my siblings in nineteen sixty six or sixteen, and I worked. Most people wouldn't remember it, but there used to be a company called toob Maker's at Kilburn, and I'd only been there three or four weeks, and the shop steward lovely Australian bloke by the name of Barnishey, and said, Gary, we need a new shop Steward, would you do it? And I said, well, why would I do it? I said, well, you're a pomon, got long hair in a big mouth, so I was suggesting I wouldn't do it. And then this chap rolled though, said to Barney, and this is a true story. Gram said to Barnishey and Barney, I want to complain about the toilet paper. Barney said, what's it's too rough? And Barney said, which side are you using? And Milan said, Oh the different he said, and he walked up, thank you, And I just looked at Barney and I said, I could do that, Barney. So I became a shop steward and then a union official for many years. Then I was appointed the essay employee ombersman in ninety two by Graham Ingerson. Graham will continually

tell everyone he taught me all I know because it incorrect. And then following that role, I now have a business where we look after employees. Some refer to it as a union for non unions, but we look after many train drivers, people in health and so that's been my work in life, really working to help employees make sure they're treated respectfully and get the right wages, etc. 01:28:38 Speaker 1: So you've been involved in this area for decades effectively, how do you think it is for workers these days today compared to twenty thirty years ago. 01:28:48 Speaker 5: I think there was a struggle in the seventies. The struggle was because we didn't have maternity to leave, we didn't have long service. So a lot of those issues that we enjoy today workers enjoy today, we didn't have them. So there was a the union movement had something to fight for today. I think the challenge is all those rights are there, we may have gone a little bit too far. I think that some of the requirements for employers may have gone a little bit too far working from home, for instance, I think there's an elephant in the room there in relation to if you work from home, that becomes a registered workplace. So who's purchasing the extinguisher for the saved ock Elton safety of those things whilst our support working from home. So back in the sixties, seventies, eighties, we didn't have electronic funds transfer. So you've paid, you would recall, well, you get paid in a little brand envelope pay packet, and then when we introduce who's being paid strain into the bank. It caused a lot of problems within the households because the guy would go home give his wife the pay packet, but he's already taken twenty dollars out and then all of a sudden, the money's gone in the bank and she knows how much he's earning exactly. So they were getting a few black eyes around the past. But yeah, things have changed and obviously for the better, but there is always challenges. There's always a minority of employers who want to not do the right thing, that treat people terribly. It's some of the bullying investigations that do are quite horrific. But we like to think we're getting better. 01:30:42 Speaker 1: Going back those years, unionism was far stronger than it is today. Why do you think people just don't want to join the union these days? 01:30:49 Speaker 5: I think because all the rights they have we didn't have in the seventies. So we had we had strike, so we had marches down King and Williams Street. Today we have maternity leave, we've got long service, we've got flexible work and arrangements. So the challenge for unions today is what do they offer when someone can go get a job in a vehicle place. The awards there, there are regulations, so everything we fought for is there now permanently. So it's it's a challenge for unions to reinvent themselves. And I have to say I'm a big supporter of unions and the challenges to reinvent ourselves so that employees see the benefit of being in union

or joining the AA. 01:31:48 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:31:48 Speaker 1: Well, you talk about unions as they were, they were seen to be quite militant, they were seen to be pro labor. I don't think anything has changed in that area, but they had a way higher. I can go back to the days with you, Bob Hawk, head of the ACTU, and you know you really hear of the act today. 01:32:07 Speaker 5: That's right. As I said, it's the challenge is to be to be out there, but you've got to have something to fight for. Yeah, you know, I listened the other day he was talking with the secretary of the fire Unions, Max Adelam. And Max and I were fellow union officials back in the seventies eighties, and you can see the passion she has fighting for her members. And that's all you can do. You just have to be part of the community. So one of the changes was that the shop steward would have to go around the factory and collect the union. Doers give them receipts and the union official would go to the workplace and collect that money off the shop steward. Then when employers started deducting union fees straight to the union, there was a disconnection straight away. There was no need to go to the factory. Prior to that, I could go to a factory, I'd know who's was going to have a baby. I know which team to support you felt part of their family. Today that doesn't happen because of those changes we made. 01:33:25 Speaker 1: You're an advocate for workers' rights and that has continued. So did you feel the need when you left regular employment that you just had to continue on in this area. 01:33:35 Speaker 5: No, I was actually going to buy a hotel or a cafe, and so I've had enough of that. But our good friend Leon Wyner would still refer people to me. So I had six months off and people were still phoning saying, Gary, I need some advice on this. So I just decided, well, I'll set up Australian Employment Alliance and keep doing what I love doing. And sometimes this week I met with a couple who don't have a lot of money and the employer hadn't paid him for the last two weeks. He's got his young child's birthday coming up and they were just there were at wits end on what to do, and I met with them. I bought the coffee, spoke to him, phone the employer and by the time we're left, the employer transferred the money. So it's those moments that that's what we do it for. You know, you just want to help people and if you can not all the time, you can find an answer for him. Sometimes it's explaining, well, yes, this is what an this is what the employer can do, and they'll go away saying thank you very much. At least understand why. 01:34:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that makes sense because you know, you can always sort of paint the employer as the bad guy, but that's it might be just a misunderstanding and misinterpretation, and it needs someone like you yourself to be the con between the employee and the employee. 01:35:02 Speaker 5: Especially in small business grown because quite often a young couple will buy a cafe and all they do is carry on paying what the previous owner did. Then all of a sudden, someone like me knocks on the door and said, look, you're underpaying, and they genuinely, genuinely didn't know. So you help them to become aware of what their responsibilities are. Because at the end of the day, most employers are good employers, most employees are good employees, but on both sides, now and again, there are those that want to try and sneak around the rules. 01:35:40 Speaker 1: So you've stepped into that area sort of this is going on for the foreseeable future. Do you have any sort of horizon in. 01:35:47 Speaker 5: The role I'm doing now. Oh, I think I'll still keep doing it, Graham, But I'd like to think that taking a delegation from Farmyard Wines to Nairobi maybe another HIC step. And I had a discussion yesterday with one of South Australia's most successful businessmen who will probably join us to go over there. So it's just another chapter. I just think my wife Christine gave me a book many years ago and it was I think it was about six or seven billionaires who didn't start the business until they're over the age of sixty. Oh right, And so the challenges are there. You're on radio. We just I'm not suggesting you as well as I am. 01:36:35 Speaker 10: Going I tell you what. 01:36:37 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you. Don't worry about it. 01:36:39 Speaker 5: And we love what we do. Yeah, and why we love what we do. We carry on doing it. 01:36:42 Speaker 1: And you can make a contribution. That's right, Gary, It's lovely to have in this studio. The Pigsar's wine looks very good and that that's sort of a feel that you've branched out in into in recent years. We wish you well for the future for that and look for anyone who needs support in the area. It's the Australian Employment Alliance. They can get in touch with you and you can help them out. They can good on you, Gary, Gary Pollis, thank you so much for coming into the studio today as part of our seven Sensational South Australians over seventy what more retirement living and home care service choice from the one provider, Get more choice with easy h five Double. 01:37:17 Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings. 01:37:19 Speaker 1: About twelve minutes to twelve on five Double A. The Premier Peter Malaskus is holding a news conference as we speak for the new replacements or the replacements for the outgoing Treasurer Stephen Mulligan and Deputy Premier Susan Close. 01:37:36 Speaker 7: I think Lucy will be able to bring her passion and enthusiasm to a really important portfolio in environment and water. This is something that I know Lucy cares about deeply. She'll be able to hit the ground running in a number of aspects, but also in respect to the algill bloom, which I know that she cares about and has followed deeply. But more than that, also her commitment to the significant tree regulation that we brought in as a government. Some time ago, and she

was an enthusiastic supporter of that, amongst other things. So I want to thank Lucy for stepping up to the plate. I know she'll do well. Anyone that's observed Lucy over a substantial period of now, particularly even even before coming to Parliament, though she's got a breadth of experience. Rhiannon steps up from the Assistant Ministry role. She was Assistant Minister for Junior Sports Participation, so it's a seamless transition coming into the cabinet as Minister for recon Sport but also taking on the portfolios of emergency Services and correctional Services. Rehe comes from the heartland of middle class South Australia and the northeastern suburbs of Adelaide, and she's deeply connected to that community and I think her breadth of experience in that role, particularly as Assistant Minister for Sports Participation Junior Sports Participation, sets her up nicely to come into the cabinet. She's demonstrated a work ethic that is second to none. I'm very excited about having her in the team. The other significant change that stands out, of course is the role of Treasurer, and I'm really pleased that Tom accepted my invitation to take on this responsibility. 01:39:14 Speaker 10: Everybody here knows Tom. 01:39:16 Speaker 7: Look, the treasury, the treasury role has its own demands and frankly you've got to have someone in that role that has the capacity to be able to exercise discipline in the government and even on me as Premier, and certainly Tom and I enjoy a relationship where we're able to do that. He has no reservations and speaking truth to power, let me tell you. Anyone will tell you that, And that's actually an important asset. It brings a degree of discipline and focus to the government, and Tom brings with him a breadth of experience I'm having already served in the portfolio as well. 01:39:57 Speaker 1: That's the Premier on the new minister to appoint and the new Treasurer, Tom Kotson. Tannas spoke after the Premier. 01:40:05 Speaker 22: Most of us done, say nat to Peter. So look, it's a role I've done before. It was a role in the last term of the weederal government and it was a difficult role, but it was a role that I enjoyed and I'm excited by the challenge. Look, I mean it's a privious to be a minister in any portfolio. I mean you can see by the talent behind me that the Premier has a tough job of allocating portfolios because there's so much to choose from. So I'm pleased that I had a really good time in transporting constructure but undo two privatizations that were unjust and unfair in South Australians with the trains and trams. He's done a lot to try and help really get started with the North South Corona. But I know Emily is going to do a fantastic job. She's committed, she's passionate, she's smart. I think it's in safe hands. 01:40:54 Speaker 4: The lives are already on the tax saying last from you were treasurer, you try to bank tax in the car park tax, allout any new taxes DA your second tempers Treasurer look absolutely. 01:41:04 Speaker 22: I mean the Premiere took to the election a policy of certainty, which was there will be no tax increases and no taxtwing creases, and that has given business certainty throughoutside Australia. I was a treasurer who took a budget deficit into surplus and paid down debt and invested heaven in our schools and our hospitals and upgrade the economy and made some pretty substantial tax reform which were bigger tax cuts than our predecessors had ever done. And when it comes to tax increases, I don't think people who have voted for such aggressive land tax changes, I've really got any left to stand on and they bring up anything about taxation, So I just don't think they have any credibility on decision. 01:41:44 Speaker 1: And that's our new Treasurer. Tom Kutson Tana's Well. If you love your food, be listening to Leith Forest today just after three pm where Chris Charmer from Jama's Kitchen joins it for Foody Friday. Thanks to Smag and POWs building or renovating, your first choice should be visiting the SMAG showroom. Dead Need distributors taste difference with Smeg and Pals. Well, Leif Forest isn't in the studio, he's down at the market. Lee, Hello Graham, good morning on location. 01:42:10 Speaker 23: On location like Kenny Rodgers, No, not Kenny Rogers. Am I going like Willie Nelson? I'm on the road again. I'm here at the beautiful Central Market at the kitchen area. You know in the what would this be the south Western corner. 01:42:22 Speaker 2: We're here. 01:42:23 Speaker 23: It's seafood and sounds weekend here at the market, So all day today, all day tomorrow. If you love your seafood, if you love a tune, as you may be able to hear. Just behind me, we've got a three piece guitar, double bass and singer. There's so many people here, Graham on a Friday afternoon, it's amazing. So as the market always is. It's full of color and excitement and vibrancing and all of that, and that will continue over these two days. 01:42:48 Speaker 1: Are the new works that are happening now in the new building? Is that in deeding the market in any way. 01:42:54 Speaker 23: A little bit? Only only with parking. There's quite a bit of parking. That's from where you would traditionally park if you come off the Groat street side or the Gooda Street side. However, there's other parking available, not just across the road on Her Majesty's side, but also down towards sort of Chinatown area. There's more parks available. But it hasn't stopped the people that are here. There's thousands here at the moment enjoying themselves. You just leave yourself a little bit more time, try and find yourself a park, or if you don't have to drive in, take some public transport, whatever the case might be. But I'm sitting here in front of Atlas Cafe. Not a seat to be found. Blee cheese. As you know, busy zoom a cafe. They're very busy as well. But we're here to celebrate the seafood Gram, which will be interesting because as you know, I don't eat seafood,

so the people sitting in front of me are in for a lucky afternoon because anything that we get to try it they'll get to try. 01:43:44 Speaker 1: You are not an eater, you'll be just a trained observer. 01:43:47 Speaker 23: Well, I'm hoping there might be some chips, because as you know, fish goes with a chip, so I do eat potatoes. And I'm thinking maybe we could do a little surf and turf combo where I'll have the turf and then grain. You can come along and have yourself a lobster or crazy. 01:44:03 Speaker 1: Happy with that if you can organize it, I'll be there. 01:44:06 Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm here from one until four. I will save you a plate. 01:44:10 Speaker 5: Good. 01:44:12 Speaker 1: That's Lee Forrest at the Central Market today. Look, I've got to be honest. I haven't been to the market for some time. 01:44:18 Speaker 5: I must. 01:44:19 Speaker 1: That's why I asked Leith about the construction there, because the major building works that are going on there at the moment, and the bulk of the market is going on unhinted, which is quite remarkable exercise. We must check on it, just see how it is progressing, because that is just going to I mean, the market is a focal point for our city and you know we do not want that changed or altered in any way. It's unique. It's one of the places that if you have visitors from interstate are overseas, you say, well just drop by the market and they go yeah, okay, and they get there and say, hey, how good is this? It is something pretty special, no question about that. A double two three, double o doublo. Still time for your call if you have one to make. Con says as an anti unionist, I'm surprised you had. Gary Collison, says con Am, I an anti unionist, didn't know that I was in the AJA, the Australian Journalists Association which later became what the Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance. Yeah, I wouldn't have thought that I would be Well, you might see me that way on not being anti union at all. In fact, Graham and Guest were your topic. The cynical truth is the banks don't really care. I await with equally cynical interest that what their next obscene profit will be. Thank you for that, John, Hi Graham. I watched the questioning from that reporter to the President. He was out of line to ask him about his personal finances. As an Aussie. It was embarrassing. I'm glad he's gone. Look I'm not quite so sure about that, John, I think a reporter has every right to ask a president or a prime minister or whoever about his personal finances from the point of view of are you still controlling them? Because as leader, you are privy to a lot of information, a lot of contacts that preclude you from really running your own business. And I think the President did say that his family is running the business, and the President still took offense at that. But no, Look, I don't think the report I would not have asked that question, But the reporter i'd believe had the right to ask it. It probably just wasn't the appropriate time. Yes, you mustn't criticize the dear leader. Now where have I heard that before? Oh, that's right, North Korea. Thank you for that. K John says so much for America's freedom of speech. There's some media licensing mergers going on in the USA media and Trump has approved them. Hm, you wonder about free press in the USA fast becoming a despotic regime. But nobody wants to read this out, so it says John. Look, it does concern me a little because while I don't necessarily agree with the words of Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert, they can be very funny at times, very cutting, very invasive, very incisive, things that comedians and comics probably wouldn't get away with in this country. But you know that's America freedom of speech and the like eight double two to three double double is the number to ring. We have a winner. We have a winner for our Travelers movie pass Wednesday, the first of October at Event Cinema's Marion. Don't miss The Travelers, Bruce Bereford's heartwarming family story starring Brian Brown. I really like Brian Brown. He's getting on in years now, but he still has a lot to offer. So congratulations to Catherine from CHRISTI Darnes Well done to you. Eight double two three doub double O was my number. It will be for Leath the Forest this afternoon when he's down at the market. You have a great day, we'll be back, and a great weekend and we'll be back on Monday