Fullständig transkription av Balancing the Call: Firefighting, Family, Mental Health & Faith

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WEBVTT 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:13.199 We're back. 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:13.839 What's up? 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:14.480 Oh my god. 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:16.480 It's been forever since you and I have been in the same room. 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:17.679 Yeah, pretty much. 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.679 I was like, I actually don't it yeah, it's been too long, actually. 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:23.519 Oh what's up, dude? 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:24.800 This place looks great. 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.280 I know. 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:39.439 Like we um since we came back with season five, and they're also making the the film, we have reorganized kind of some of the stuff just so it looks better visually, you know, lined up with the desk and all that stuff. 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.079 So absolutely, I know so people know. 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:50.240 Um Jordan, yes, he's still involved with the podcast, but you have to understand, you have to hey everybody, yeah. 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:51.439 You have to understand. 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:56.159 Uh, we have children and families now, so yeah, we that comes first. 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:01.439 That's our priority is our kids and our wives, and making sure everything's good on top of having to work all the time. 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:17.760 So I was gonna say, you know, uh that is the hard part, is that you we still have to work and do this, but this is awesome, and I'm super stoked to uh be able to make it back, dude, and uh check out the new setup. 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:18.799 It looks awesome. 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:28.400 I actually really look forward to hearing about the uh the film and everything because uh Tim's downplaying it, he's also been incredibly busy, very sure you've been talking about. 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:33.439 Yeah, it's it's um uh time management is what I've learned. 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.560 Yeah, big time time management on top of trying. 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:41.280 I think for us being in the fire service, controlling our schedule is very difficult. 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.200 It's so different from private sector, you know. 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:47.519 When somebody calls out sick in a regular job, nobody's there. 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.799 Well, somebody has to fill that spot on the fire engine or fire truck or whatever. 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:55.760 So that's been a lot, but it I mean, it's manageable, right? 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:56.640 It is what it is. 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:57.920 What we signed up for. 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:00.560 I was gonna say, you kind of tote that line, you know. 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:05.439 It's like my my initial reaction when someone asked me that, I'm like, no, it's crazy. 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:10.800 It's really hard and it's constantly moving, everything's always changing, things that you think are gonna be off. 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.879 You end up ended up having to work and all that kind of stuff. 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:20.159 So that life work balance is you do hit a lot of points where it's really hard to manage those things, but at the end of the day, it is the truth. 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:21.360 We did sign up for this. 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.520 There was an understanding of what we have to do and the sacrifices that we'll make for it. 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:34.879 Hard part is trying to figure out how to stay motivated a little bit within that while also simultaneously being the uh, you know, the head of your household, you know. 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:44.080 So there's a there's a little bit of that uh juggling effort that happens, but you know, I feel like I don't know, I feel like we both do a good job at it, you know. 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.960 For as crazy as it can be, we still seem to get things done. 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:49.039 So oh yeah, it's back pat. 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:50.719 No big deal. 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:54.240 Look at us, look at us, huh? 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:55.280 Yeah, we've been right. 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:55.919 We're doing it. 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:56.479 We got it. 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:09.599 Yeah, being a father, you've been a father longer than me, but you know, for us, you know, we're gone from home quite a bit, but it I think a lot we a lot of praise should go to our wives. 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:10.159 Absolutely. 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:11.439 I think that's a big one. 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:22.800 It it and how they when we're gone, they are mom, dad, plumber, electrician, problem solver, taking the kids to school, getting them home, cooking dinner, and then they call us, it's like, hey, what are you doing? 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.280 Like, I've been playing pickleball and uh that never happens, Tim. 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.319 What are you talking about? 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:31.680 Yeah, we're training all day, every day. 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:37.759 Yeah, so it's been it's been cool, but dude, the film has been doing really well. 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:43.039 That's something it's been a two-year process, which you know, because I've been talking to you about it. 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.520 It's it's really it's a let's go podcast project, which is amazing. 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:56.879 And having choosing the director, Chris, who is a military veteran, and I grew up with him, and he knew my brother Luke, which is awesome. 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:10.560 Um it was really cool to go into this with him because there was a there's an understanding that this is important and he understands kind of what we go through, especially just because he's been in the military, but he's he went through film school. 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.439 This is these are this is what he wants to do, right? 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:26.720 So I have contacts in the film industry, but when I came up with the idea, my thought was okay, I sat it up for six months, and then I kind of wrote out a pitch on it and thinking,

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like, okay, how are we gonna do this? 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.279 There's gonna be a lot, there's gonna be a lot of logistics behind it. 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.759 And I hit him up, like, hey, I want to offer this to you first. 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.759 You, you know, you and I have been friends, you've you've been on the podcast. 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:37.839 I know you're you're finishing up film school. 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:38.399 What do you think? 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.720 Dude didn't even bat an eyelash, he was like, I'm in. 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:42.160 I believe in this. 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:47.600 He through film school, we were able to get a film crew that coming out from France and some other veterans here. 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.040 So it was really cool. 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:58.560 It pretty much everybody involved in making this film um, firefighters and military veterans, which is exactly kind of how I envisioned it, right? 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.680 Not that we don't want anybody else, but I support these people. 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:12.800 I come from a military home, we are firefighters, we all know what we struggle with the fact that suicide is so high in in our profession and and just emergency services and in the military. 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:17.360 It's like, okay, let's let's get these people together and let's let's make an impact and do something. 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:25.439 Now, this ride that we did from San Francisco to Orange County, there is a group of firefighters, I think it's Fire Velo. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:26.639 I I might be wrong on that. 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:27.920 I don't want to misspeak. 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.240 But I did talk to the guy who organizes that. 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.639 They ride from San Francisco to LA and they do it in seven days. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.839 So they're doing like 80 days, 80 mile days, 90 mile days. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:38.160 Yeah. 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:50.959 So my thought was when we're making this film, how do we do something that is challenging and has an impact and shows like, whoa, that's crazy, right? 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:52.399 What's gonna like pop out? 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:54.160 So I said, okay, cool. 00:05:54.399 --> 00:06:00.399 Hey Chris, we're gonna ride from San Francisco Golden Gate Bridge to Orange County, but we're gonna do it in five days. 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.319 Brother, that's 120 plus miles a day. 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.600 Like, we're not Lance Armstrong, professional cyclists at all. 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:09.759 Okay, it was a lot, it was a lot. 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:13.360 So, anyways, the logistics behind it, getting it done. 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:14.800 You know, I came with the idea. 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.959 I'm the executive producer, whatever, all that stuff. 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:25.120 Chris is the director, he's also a writer in a way, and we have the director of photography, his name's Antoine, comes from France. 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.439 And so he flew all the way out. 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:32.800 He came out here multiple days, and that whole five days that we did from you know, the whole ride. 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.800 And so many things could have gone wrong. 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:36.319 Now you're talking about logistics. 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:40.000 I have seven riders from seven different fire departments coming together. 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:46.240 Uh, we had some training camps that we did together to you know make sure we all know how to ride together in a Peloton and do everything. 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.439 But my gosh, you're talking 120 plus miles a day. 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.040 We have one chase vehicle, we just threw all of our bags in there. 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.519 We have a couple extra tubes and tires. 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:55.920 Yeah. 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:01.600 And then it was like, well, if something goes wrong, we just got to find a bike shop along the way and fix it and figure out how we're gonna do it. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.040 Anyways, all that to say, nobody got hurt. 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:06.480 We made it all the way through. 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:18.959 And even there's so much that went behind us that I'm trying to pack in real short here, but uh, even the last day, we we rode from um Solvang to Zuma Beach, LA County. 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:28.879 Now, when we did that, we got there, uh, LA County Fire and Lifeguards, they supported us, they love what we were doing, so they housed us at their headquarters down there on the beach of lifeguards. 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:29.360 Awesome. 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:31.920 Yeah, we slept in like their big garage, which was funny. 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:33.199 Bunch of Cots, right? 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.399 Everyone's super tired, uncomfortable, but it is what it is. 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:47.759 But uh Men of Fire was involved that I ride with motorcycle club, and they all they cooked us dinner, they housed us, they gave us a tour of um the headquarters, lifeguards, just kind of what they do. 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:48.800 It was so cool, dude. 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.839 And that that last day we woke up, we got ready, we took off. 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:55.680 Brother, we had a code three escort through Malibu. 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:57.439 Their fireboat was shooting water. 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.160 Nice, it was so and I didn't plan any of that, right? 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:05.120 This is people talking, like, hey, these are what these guys are agency, yeah, these are what these guys are doing. 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:06.720 Like, this is rad, this is hard. 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:11.120 We believe in this because we have so many personnel suffering, right, from mental health. 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:11.759 Right. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:20.319 And then um we went through LA and then we got

to Orange County, another code three escort from uh OCFA, our department. 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:27.759 We had Anaheim Firefighters, Orange, and then leading us back into Frisbee Brewery, where we ended was uh Orange County. 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:32.000 It was all code three, it's on film, it's beautiful, it looks beautiful. 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:37.200 I mean, like putting this all together was so stressful. 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:42.559 Like no one will ever understand the weight that was because we had sponsors, we had people that paid into this too. 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:44.000 That you know, it's on our jerseys. 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:58.720 I think there was like several different sponsors that gave us a lot of money to get this ride done who believed in it, and so I'm thinking about that, making sure we finish and get this film done for them as well, because they believed in it, on top of making sure the riders are safe and okay. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.120 Logistics, hotels, food. 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.919 Like, dude, there was so much going on, and God bless my wife because she helped me behind the scenes. 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:07.039 Yeah, planning all this. 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:14.639 Here's our stops, here's the hotels we're gonna stay at, all this, and we finish it, then it goes into um post-production editing. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.279 And of course, it's so funny because everyone's hit me up like, hey, when's the film done? 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:17.679 When's the film? 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.480 Like, you guys, there's like 500 hours. 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:22.320 We gotta fine-tune this a little bit. 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:28.480 Yeah, there's like there's like 500 hours of film that these the editor and Chris, the director, has to go through. 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.440 And Chris flew all the way out to France where it was being edited to be there and get it done. 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:34.320 Nice, right? 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:39.039 So, Chris was so he was such a huge part in this and a big visionary. 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:48.080 And you can tell that Chris has the eye for this and the art of film because once it was done, uh, we got a couple different cuts from of it. 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:55.679 Uh, and then he's you know, we wanted to go to the film festivals and get those awards before we, you know, try to get this thing out to mainstream. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:05.440 And dude, in Italy, the Florence Film Festival, we have we won, he won best uh director, best documentary film festival for the whole festival. 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:06.000 No way. 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:12.480 I got uh best uh executive producer, our yeah, our director of photography, Antoine. 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:13.919 He got the best director of photography. 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.759 Like, dude, we're winning these awards, it's getting accepted into all these other ones. 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:19.360 We're getting invited to places now. 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:34.879 Yeah, there's some red carpet stuff coming on, and you know, it's humbling because there was a draw on a field to do this, and then the fact that it happened and now we're winning stuff and all the sacrifice time, and I put in a lot of my own money, like a lot, and so did Chris. 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:36.639 But it's because we believed in it, yeah. 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:44.480 And we our thought is this is if this just saves one life of military veterans or first responders, we did our job. 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:49.440 Yeah, you know, because everyone, dude, we're from this film and our podcast. 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:55.679 I can't tell you how many phone calls and messages now that I've been fielding from guys who are like, Thank you for talking about this, thank you for doing this. 00:10:55.840 --> 00:11:02.799 I had one yesterday with uh a guy that I grew up with who who works for a department, he's a chief now, and he's been having a real difficult time. 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.279 And he listened to an episode from like two years ago. 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:06.960 He's like, I didn't know that was you. 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:23.919 I'm like, Yeah, so he called me and we talked, and it was really it's really nice because it it's almost like the the walls come down and people realize like, oh dude, if he's talking about it, or Tim and Jordan and these people are making film and doing this, well, let's let's I need to talk to somebody. 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.600 Yeah, you know, and I always tell them, like, hey, whatever you say to me lives and dies in this conversation. 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:32.320 I am not gonna go out and tell people what you're dealing with or what's going on, but just know I've been through it. 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:36.720 Yeah, like my friends are going through it, George's been through it, the people in the film, we've all been through it. 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:39.039 It's okay to not be okay. 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:45.200 And to see how this film is doing so well, it shows there is a need here, a big need. 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:46.879 So it's been it's been really cool, dude. 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.120 And I'm glad that our our our name is on it. 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:50.559 Yeah, I mean, absolutely. 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:56.559 I mean, just the I mean, we've we've talked about the mental health side and with the first responders quite a bit, you know, over the years. 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:03.519 And it's good to see that it's actually going in a direction, right? 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.039 It's not just something that's talked about. 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.320 It's like, hey, you should get checked out if you're having a hard time or talk to somebody. 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:09.840 All right, anyways, have a good one. 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:20.399 You know, like it's becoming more normal that at least if you're if you can identify that in your own

life, then you're already on the right track, right? 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:30.000 And I think by people talking about it and you know, even in the redundancy sometimes, it's like, look, we all don't know what we're dealing with individually when we go home, right? 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:41.279 And that and and everyone's situation is totally different, you know, and it's just knowing that like there are other people that's like, yeah, dude, like you work, you know, what are we, 20 years into this now? 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:42.240 Yeah, you know what I mean? 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:52.320 Like, there's no way you haven't had issues over the years of you know, being comfortable with what you're doing or having, you know, bringing stuff home into your home life, things like that. 00:12:52.399 --> 00:13:03.200 And you know, everyone's it's just a work in progress for everybody, but just being able to talk about it without it being like, oh, dude, that guy, what you know, like how you know, you don't have it figured out yet, dude. 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:03.919 You know what I mean? 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:09.759 Like that that kind of approach is just, I don't think that that's as common anymore. 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:10.080 Right. 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:10.480 Right. 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:17.519 And I think that that's that just shows that the efforts of like everyone that does and has their piece in, you know, the mental health push, yeah. 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.879 I think is it's beneficial for the group moving forward. 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:27.039 And if it all these conversations, all these things, if it does, it affects one person, then it's absolutely worth it. 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:27.919 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.440 So that's awesome. 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:31.840 I told somebody how much I put in. 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:33.840 It's quite a substantial amount of money. 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:35.200 Well, it's a lot, bro. 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:37.600 Yeah, I mentioned it's been a lot of money. 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:48.080 Well, and it's great because again, I'm I'm so thankful for my wife because um she's seen me in my my pretty much my darkest days, right? 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.360 And she's still stuck by my side. 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:50.879 And I've seen her in her dark days, right? 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:56.799 No relationship's perfect, and we both have had to learn and grow together and forgive each other and move on. 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:57.679 And that's hard, right? 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:06.559 All the things you go through in a relationship, on top of having to keep your career going, and then our podcast and our children, and then ourselves individually, and then trying to take care. 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:20.960 It is a lot, it is a lot, and I'm hoping too that when someone who's not even in the military or a first responder, it this like this goes for anybody that's dealing with anything in their life, right? 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:26.960 Life is hard, like life is is not easy, and it can be a straight up mother effer at times and very unfair. 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:28.399 But what are you gonna do with it? 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.720 Are you gonna sit there and crumble and let it defeat you? 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:34.000 Or is it okay, I need to figure out what's going on. 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:35.600 How do I get through this pain? 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.679 Uh, you know, realizing you're not alone. 00:14:37.759 --> 00:15:00.559 That was the biggest thing I had to realize throughout all these years of us being in the fire service, especially like the last 10 from the ending and divorce of my first marriage to just all the madness and how I was living, and then you know, getting married and changing my life, and then trying to be a good father and a good firefighter and all these things. 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:04.639 It's like, yo, you're only human, you can only take so much, right? 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:06.159 And you're but you're not alone. 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.120 Like, don't think you're the only one going through this. 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:10.399 Everybody's going through something. 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:11.440 That's what I've realized. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:16.639 There's nobody that has the perfect job or the perfect marriage or everything's going good. 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.799 Someone is we're all dealing with something. 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:19.759 Speak up, you know. 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.399 Now, when I say speak up, don't just go to anybody, right? 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:23.840 You gotta be real careful who you talk to. 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:31.039 Yeah, I was like, that that statement is definitely uh who you speak to is also very important, you know. 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.759 Um, and it dude, so much things. 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:47.919 I mean, just in life in general, everything's trial and error, you know, every literally everything, you know, and it is interesting when it we use references to this industry because it is different in a lot of ways versus everybody. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.200 But dude, everything is subjective to each of their own, right? 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:56.879 Like it's what I think is a bad day is different from what you think is a bad day, which is different from this. 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:04.879 But either way, the whole point is finding a person and like and look at the end of the day, like the whole trial and error thing, yeah, you're gonna reach out to some people, maybe those aren't the right people. 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:19.679 But if you do and try to stay open with it, you will come across somebody to generate that relationship with, or you know, I mean, I I don't know, I'm kind of an open book a lot of times, so you know, I tend to talk where I'm like, oh, probably shouldn't have talked about that, you know. 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:20.000

Right. 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:29.360 But at the same time, you find where people are in similar scenarios or maybe have experienced something along that way, and people offer advice, you know. 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:43.519 And I guess maybe we're fortunate and to be in an industry where because a lot of you know, not everyone's problems are the same, but there are similarities amongst the group, you know, that are dealing with different things or have done in the past, and we learn from it, you know. 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:50.960 So yeah, it's it's cool because I I really see it through what we do with this podcast and how we are pretty open on here, right? 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:52.480 We're we're careful how we say certain things. 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:53.200 Carefully open. 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:56.240 Yeah, we're we're carefully, carefully open how we say certain things. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.960 But like I have there's a there's I kind of have a list of of guys, right? 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:02.879 Because being married, I'm not gonna call women and shit. 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:04.160 Like this just not appropriate. 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.480 Um, but I have these dudes, also true. 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:10.319 Yeah, I have these guys that I call one's a really good friend. 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:14.400 He was a roommate roommate with me from when I bought my first house years ago. 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:21.039 Um, but I remember I was going to a class uh out of Ben Clark out in Riverside County, it's like Marino Valley or something like that. 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.680 And I just had a feeling I'm like, you know, I need to check on this guy to see how he's doing. 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.240 So I just it was it's like an hour and a half drive, right? 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:29.839 All right, I'm gonna give him a call, just check on him. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:30.559 Hey, what's up, man? 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:31.039 How you doing? 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:31.599 Checking. 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.480 And oh, dude, I was just thinking about giving you a call. 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:35.759 Like, oh shoot. 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.559 I'm like, okay, what's what's what's going on? 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:45.279 And uh his mom has cancer and she's not doing good, and it's it's been a lot on his his family. 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.880 And we know the circle life, and my my parents are getting older. 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:53.279 My dad's 85, mom's 75, and that's tough because he's having his own issues now. 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.559 And you know, it doesn't matter that it is a circle life. 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:03.279 Like when our parents are gone, that's that's difficult because that is special to us, and that's something that hit me when I was holding my son the other day. 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:08.000 I remember just loving on him, just thinking, dude, this is so cool being a dad, love you. 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.359 And

then it hit me like, man, one day I'm not gonna be here for you. 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:12.960 One day you're gonna be on your own. 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:15.519 I'm not gonna be able to help you, guide you, protect you. 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:17.200 And that was a sobering thought. 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.200 That was like, man, like, dude, this is crazy. 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:25.920 And then I thought about my parents, like, whoa, like when they're gone, that's it, man. 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:26.799 It's crazy. 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.079 So, like our parents are special, they really are. 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:37.839 So we were just chatting with them, and he's like, Yeah, dude, listen to the podcast, and yeah, really glad at how you guys are open and talk about things. 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:42.240 That just it's not just what you guys deal with as a firefighter, but really it's like everyday people. 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:46.240 Like, yeah, that's kind of why we do the podcast to celebrate the everyday person. 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:54.480 Like, you know, you the person living next door to you, your family or friends can be just as inspiring as someone who's an actor or an athlete or a sport person, you know. 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:57.119 Absolutely, it's the hidden gems of the world. 00:18:57.359 --> 00:18:58.240 Yeah, man. 00:18:58.319 --> 00:18:59.359 So the film's doing good. 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.519 All that to say, I'm excited where that's going. 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:08.960 And just be watching people, please follow us on our Instagram and see everything and like click there and subscribe. 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.160 I know, right, dude. 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:14.400 Dude, I saw something so I saw something really cool in there. 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.279 It was like, um, and it's really true. 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:25.200 You will see the like people who truly support you and your friends, like, how hard is it to like and share something? 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.680 But yet a lot of people won't do it for you. 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:34.400 It's like, okay, you have a business, a private business that you're putting and you have it on social media and you're trying to do well, and you want to help your friend out. 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:36.319 That like that's the biggest way to help them. 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:37.519 Like it and share it. 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:37.920 Right. 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:39.759 It's like two clicks, right? 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:43.519 And if they I just laugh, I'm like, dude, that is so freaking true. 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:50.400 Yes, like I see have seen like through the years of us doing this podcast, I've seen more support from people that aren't even my friends, right? 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:51.759 Or like, dude, that's awesome. 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:55.599 Yeah, yeah, and repost, and then your own friends aren't even doing it. 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:56.880 You're like, what the heck, dude? 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:03.359 Yeah, I mean, part of me is kind of like I don't know, you know, like not in a not in a bad way. 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.160 It's just more like if they look at it and they're like, ah, what you know, cool. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.240 You know, they like it, but they don't, you know, share it. 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:17.839 Yeah, and it's just more of like it absolutely helps the podcast to reshare constantly and uh just generating algorithms, like you know, frequency. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.279 Well, you learned about it with your wife. 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:19.839 Oh, yeah. 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:21.759 That was a lot of work, dude. 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:23.759 She was grinding, bro. 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:24.799 Grinding. 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:25.839 Yeah, it's a lot of things. 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:26.799 God bless her, dude. 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:28.400 She's yeah, she's a machine, dude. 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:29.279 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.680 I don't know how she like does it all. 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:32.559 I really don't know. 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.640 It's like I'm just it's like day to day. 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:35.920 It's like, I got this, this, this, this. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:36.960 There's always stuff going on. 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.599 She's involved with the kids, she's involved with the kids' sports, like always team mom on top of this with the school. 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:42.480 It's she's impressive. 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.119 Well, I mean, I we saw it when we You're awesome, babe. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:45.920 I love you. 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:52.880 We saw it when uh we went to that pumpkin patch thing over in Irvine, uh, and then we were like, hey, let's see where Jordan and Oh, yeah, that was awesome. 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:54.799 It's like, hey, where are you guys at? 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:58.400 We want to come by and just say hi, and because life gets busy. 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:04.480 And believe it or not, Jordan and I actually don't get to hang out that much just because we have so much going on with our our families. 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:06.000 So it's like, hey, let's just stop by. 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:10.880 And like I mentioned that to Tanya, like, dude, freaking Jordan's wife, Christine is on it. 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:12.480 No, she's out there doing stuff. 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.960 Oh wow, and she's chairing and she's getting the kids doing this. 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.000 Oh, hey, this team mom everybody says, Hey, hey, this is Tim and his wife. 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.240 And so I told her I was like, You're gonna be the mayor. 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:27.519 Well, I actually haven't told her this, but I I secretly think she'll end up running for some sort of political position in the city we live in at some point. 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:28.480 So she would do great. 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:30.240 Yeah,

it's an Asian thing, bro. 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:32.880 Hey, I mean, she's a like I said, she's a grinder. 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.480 Yeah, the an Asian women dog business, all business, baby. 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:37.519 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:39.359 I just don't know where they get the energy from, man. 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:40.400 That's that's the crazy part. 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:41.599 I don't know either, dude. 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:42.640 Uh it's impressive. 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:44.559 Yeah, but yeah, the film's doing good. 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:45.599 I'm really excited about it. 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:46.319 I'm so proud of it. 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:52.720 I'm so glad that from the sponsors and the people that have been involved and it's been humbling, dude. 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.160 It's it's really cool because I don't say like God speaks to me, right? 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:57.920 I don't I'm not that type of person. 00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:58.319 Okay. 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:04.240 That anyways, but I think with my faith now, I just know, like, okay, I have a feeling I need to do this. 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:05.920 And like I'll sleep on it. 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:07.599 I try not to make decisions right away. 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:09.359 We've learned that over the years, right? 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:10.640 Don't make the quick decisions. 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:12.000 Don't make decisions out of emotion. 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:13.200 Typically not good. 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:14.000 Yes. 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.920 But dude, I sat on that for six months and then I'm like, okay, I gotta do something about this. 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:20.160 I have, I know I have the people that can do it. 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:22.319 I know I have certain connections in the film industry. 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:23.279 We need to get money. 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:24.079 We need to do this. 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:25.279 We're gonna get it done. 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.799 So to see it all come together, it's just it's so humbling, man. 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:29.759 It's so great. 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:35.920 And you can I can see how definitely God doesn't waste anything in our lives, even the bad right. 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.160 Even even the things and how I used to live and all these, now it's like, hey, this is a part of my story. 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:44.240 And I'm gonna tell people who I was, where I've been, the mistakes I've made. 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.759 But here's also how I've been redeemed, saved, and God's grace. 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:57.839 Because if you would have told me that I would have what I have now and the peace and the joy of my children, I could not imagine life without my daughter and son now. 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:03.759 It is one of the to me, I have felt like success is great. 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:05.200 We've done well with our lives. 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:07.359 We've had

people on here who've done very, very well. 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.200 And to be able to own a home and our cars and our trucks, everything, and it's great. 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:18.799 I don't want to take it for granted, but truly, I have learned the greatest gift and the true riches in life it's your family, your children. 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:23.039 I mean, dude, it's it's taught me a love that I didn't know I had. 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:34.000 Well, that was like when you were just saying the uh like the whole like holding your, I think you said your son and feeling like, oh man, like one day I'm not gonna like be there. 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:35.039 Yeah, you know. 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:39.359 I've had that with all three of my kids, like that moment. 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:40.960 And it comes at a weird time. 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:51.119 It's always like an odd time where like I'll be sitting there and then all of a sudden I'm thinking, I'm like, oh man, you know, like there's so much I need to teach you before I'm out of here, you know what I mean? 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:55.039 Like, yeah, yeah, and you know, because you just want to uh rookie move. 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:57.039 Oh, he didn't turn his phone. 00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:58.000 Oh my gosh. 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:00.960 It's my first day back in a while. 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:01.759 I'm so sorry. 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:02.079 Yeah. 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:03.519 I can do this, dude. 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:11.359 But you know, at the end of the day, I think that that feeling that you have, That just drives the kind of parent that you're gonna be. 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:13.279 You know, it's because you care. 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:22.160 And, you know, depending on where we're all at individually in life, and hopefully when you take the step out to have a family, it does. 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:23.680 It's instant, it's instantly changing. 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.160 I remember sharing the story with my first my my first son. 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:38.319 I remember, you know, it was that that instantaneous feeling that this thing I'm holding, this little kid that I'm holding in my arms is now like priority one. 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:38.720 Yeah. 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:39.039 Right? 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.240 Without even thinking about it. 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:45.279 I mean, it's all you know, and it's all cliche statements and all that kind of stuff, but a lot of them are very true. 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.519 And it's uh it's amazing and very fortunate. 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:54.319 And you know, for I mean, look, it gets, you know, it gets crazy. 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:55.519 Oh, it does get really crazy. 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.599 100% at the same time, though, that is what it is. 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:03.200 Because for all the crazy moments, you're gonna have moments that are absolutely awesome. 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:10.319 And you know, when you guys

came by to watch the game, which was super cool, by the way, uh, that was just like a soft opener of what you're getting yourself into. 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:26.960 Um, yeah, it's it's you try to you try to enjoy the chaos while it's happening because I mean my kids are still young, but they're growing at a rate that at which I feel like I could barely keep up with mentally because I'm like all of a sudden, I'm like, my oldest is seven now. 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.440 Yeah, and it feels like I we just had them, right? 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:39.200 You know, so it's like I can when people are like, oh, time flies, you know, the kid, the guys that have kids are late teenagers or young, you know, young adults and stuff, they're just like, remember this. 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.920 I used to look at those guys and be like, you dude, okay. 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:42.559 Yeah, thank you. 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.400 Yeah, I was like, yesterday was a crazy day, dude. 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:45.759 I I made it, we made it. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:52.079 But you know, I've been slowly seeing that, like, yeah, dude, you just life moves quick. 00:25:52.400 --> 00:26:02.799 And you try to enjoy the the great parts, and you know, you survive the crazy days and just know that because you had a bad day doesn't mean tomorrow's gonna be that way. 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:03.200 Yeah. 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:10.240 And you file it and move on, you learn from the mistakes, and you know, you just keep going because I think that is the gift from God. 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:15.839 We do have we do have the opportunity, and like, look, we're fortunate that we were able to have children, you know what I mean? 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.039 Because there's a lot of people out there who want it and can't get it, you know. 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:25.200 So it's like you got to take all of it into consideration moving forward, and you know, just we're very fortunate people. 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.839 Well, man, I hadn't seen your daughter in a minute. 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:28.720 I was just getting it. 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:33.599 I dude, Tanya and I were shook when she came running up. 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.480 I was like, dude, just a whole different little girl. 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.480 I mean, when I saw her, she was this little thing, right? 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:42.720 I mean, I seen her as a baby and then a little, but bro, she shot up, she's tall. 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:44.799 Yeah, she might be kind of tall. 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.039 Uh, you know, she's a big girl. 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:52.480 Uh, and what's funny is she's like the attitude is like wild right now. 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:54.000 I'm seeing that with my daughter, dude. 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:59.119 She said, she told me yesterday, she was like, Daddy, I don't like you. 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.079 She said that to me. 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.079 Now, okay, now take it for this is

what happened. 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.480 She did something she wasn't supposed to do, so I took away something from her that she really wanted. 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.920 So she was pissed, and that's how she, you know, portrayed it. 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.000 Flash forward like 20 minutes later. 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.000 She's like, Dada, I'm sorry. 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:15.440 I'm not mad at you. 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.240 And I was like, I didn't even talk to her about it because I don't care. 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.680 When the kids say they're mad at me, I'm like, whatever, you know, this is a learning moment, you know. 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.559 But then she, because my other, my other two, my boys don't do that. 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.519 Yeah, they don't come back to me like, yeah, I'm really sorry for doing that, you know. 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.119 But she did it like unprompted. 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.079 I thought was kind of wild. 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.480 And then she gave me a hug and she's like, let's want to watch a show. 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.880 So yeah, she liked she went back and thought about it. 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.079 Yeah, I was like, introspective at two and a half. 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:38.799 That's weird. 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.079 Yeah, cool, but it threw me off anyway. 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:44.240 Women are interesting creatures, bro. 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:54.720 Yes, they uh so true, very deep human beings, very, very deep, deep oceans, introspective, more so, or very surface value. 00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:04.240 Uh well, dude, since um gosh, so much has happened since uh coming back with this season and you be on here now. 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.559 Like the biggest one is this last election. 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:08.240 Uh a couple things. 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.960 Texas turned blue, which is wild. 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:11.759 Uh yeah. 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.680 That one's uh like I'm kind of like that's a that's actually a big deal, right? 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.880 But then also, you know, we had here our election. 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:24.480 I was I think a lot of us were hoping Steve Hilton would win just for a different change, something new or whatever. 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.960 But um we didn't who won again? 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.000 What's his name? 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:29.680 Uh Bacera. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:30.640 Bacera. 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:35.119 Now, the biggest thing with him that I'm looking at, brother, that gas tax. 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:41.039 That is like uh I have some stats in her gonna read but I was gonna let you kind of talk about it. 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.880 No, it's a it's it's all good, yeah. 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.000 So uh I forgot his first name, so my apologies. 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.480 Uh Xavier Xavier, yeah. 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:59.759 Okay, cool name, but uh yeah, just another in my opinion, and I'll keep it as just my opinion, but to me, it just seemed like more of the same, right? 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.599 So we had Gavin Newsom for a long tenured period. 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.559 Whether you like him or you don't, in my case, I don't care for him too much. 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:16.960 Um, and I don't know if it's because of the car salesman type of vibe he gives or the fact he says something and does something completely different. 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.599 Um, that's actually more why I don't care for him. 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:26.559 But uh I just think that we were basically we elected the same type of character in the position. 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:51.200 And not that Steve Hilton, you know, I mean, look, you don't know until someone gets in the position anyway, but at least some of the things he was running on as far as cutting um costs to the everyday person in the state, I think was a very important and something that we all feel that's palpable right now, with the cost of everything being extraordinarily high for, I don't know, what, the last eight to ten years. 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.720 Um I think that uh it was kind of a bummer. 00:29:54.880 --> 00:30:03.119 So, but one of the one of the things about Becerra was that before during the campaign time, he was talking about a mileage tax, right? 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:17.519 And that the mileage tax was kind of there to offset because there's so many EV or electric vehicles in the state that they're not, you know, because they they because with with registration, right, they don't have to get smogged. 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:18.960 Isn't that isn't that a part of it? 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:19.519 I think so. 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:20.480 I think so. 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:25.759 That's a little so you're missing out on a large chunk of basically like tax funding money. 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.119 But they dude, they push, they're pushing us to go EV, right? 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.319 They're the ones who wanted it. 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.680 There's the okay, yes, but that's the whole thing, right? 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:43.279 Is that it's like, okay, there was the push for 2035, there was gonna be no combustible engines because they're trying to move away from all gas-powered vehicles, make everything EV. 00:30:43.680 --> 00:31:01.920 Well, when the push, the incentives, everything like that goes within the state, now you have people actually having buy-in on it and are purchasing these EVs at such a rate to where now, and I don't know the numbers on it, whether it's it's probably not 50-50, but let's say it's 30% of the driving market is now an EV vehicle, right? 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.559 Well, that 30% is something that you're gonna take away because now you don't need to get it smogged. 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.799 It's probably cheaper for the registration value. 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:18.160 These are losses that they are

now, you know, which again, like we're like the people up there that are running the show should be smart, right? 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.599 It should be. 00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.920 And this is like a short period of time. 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:34.160 So it's like it within a three-year window, they're like, oh, dude, we didn't realize we were gonna be uh, you know, that we missed out on this, which I know that I don't believe that to be true because I believe this is the setup. 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:35.839 The setup is to do this. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.920 I think that that was the long game plan, anyway, just to set up a mileage tax. 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:53.200 So now you have people that are driving gas-powered vehicles that are gonna have to pay smog registration at a higher rate and a gas or and a mileage tax, and now you're lumping in extra money from the people that are driving EVs, right? 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:58.000 And you know, it's like is anyone even talked about this whole combustion engine thing? 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:02.000 Is that even still a like a thing we're shooting for by 2035? 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.160 Because that's gonna be here pretty quick. 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.559 And you know, fuel's eight bucks a gallon, and oh, it's ridiculous. 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:09.279 You know what I'm saying? 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.839 Like it just it keeps what I'm getting at is that this thing keeps spinning, right? 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:21.119 It seems like the state keeps spinning out of control, and we just elected someone to keep the spin going. 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.200 I mean, that's where I'm at with it. 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:23.839 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.960 Well, if you look, so I look some things up on this, right? 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:32.079 So uh the official pilot, it's like 2.8 cents per gallon. 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:32.799 Okay. 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.319 Now hypothetically it's gonna be higher, right? 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.279 Six, nine cents. 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.000 So if you're the average driver is what I think is 12,000 miles a year, correct? 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.400 Yeah, between 10 and 12, I think. 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:45.039 10 and 12. 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.039 So we go to the higher end because that's probably what they're gonna want, nine cents per gallon, right? 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:59.039 That doesn't seem like a lot, but if you do 12,000 miles and you're paying an additional nine cents per mile, that's one thousand eighty dollars of new annual charges per person driving. 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:01.519 Okay, now I don't know about you. 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.519 Um a registration on my truck is already astronomical. 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:06.000 Yes. 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.920 Now you add another that you add another thousand dollars to that. 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.079 I'm gonna be pretty much add two thousand dollars a year for

registration for my truck. 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.680 For one vehicle, for one vehicle, which is ridiculously crazy, right? 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.359 Now think about a lot of people who commute, right? 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:29.519 Who can't afford to live in LA or Orange County and they're driving in, they're definitely putting more than 12,000 miles a year on their car. 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.799 That's going to skyrocket their registration. 00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:43.599 So now you're talking about groceries are expensive, gas is expensive, insurance has gone up, like everything's expensive in California, you're gonna add a gas tax. 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.720 Like you're crushing the middle and lower classes right now. 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:47.519 Crushing them. 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:49.839 You're definitely crushing the middle class. 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.319 Oh, yeah. 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:50.960 You know what I mean? 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:59.200 Because like at least if you because when you start getting into like lower class stuff, again, and I don't mean this like I don't know how to talk about it without it sounding like a negative thing. 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:06.400 Like, you know, if you're like in the position that you meet that criteria, I wish the best for you, and hopefully you can get yourself out of it. 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:15.840 So when I say that, I'm not, you know, but there is a lower class structure in the state, and you know, most of which are on some sort of subsidy, right? 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:25.519 So and it's again, even those people who are being subsidized in multiple facets for some, now they're gonna have to come up with it, or do they get a tax break? 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.320 It's like if you make less than$60,000 a year, do you not have to pay the mileage tax? 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:30.880 You know what I mean? 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:37.599 There's nothing because the reason why I'm asking this is because there's no from what I've read so far, there's nothing about it, right? 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.880 So is it just a flat tax that everyone's gonna have to pay? 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:58.960 Which that wouldn't seem fair for someone who's already on multiple subsidies because they obvious they obviously can't afford it, you know, but it's gonna come off the backs of the of the middle class that is pinching pennies to be able to stay afloat on their own without subsidies, right? 00:34:59.119 --> 00:34:59.360 Right. 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.840 So it's like, what is the intention of the state? 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.039 Is the state's intention to push the subsidies higher? 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.280 Which someone can make the argument, yeah. 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.519 And I'm not gonna get into that right now. 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:17.360 But but what I mean by that is that it's we just have a lot of conflicting stuff that it keeps happening. 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:17.840 True. 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:26.000 And like for example, we were talking a little bit about it before, uh, before the podcast, there was another in the same election cycle, there was uh two measures. 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:41.039 I believe it was 45 and 37, and I might confuse the two numbers, but one of them had to do with affordable housing, and then the other one had to do with limiting restriction for uh development, so to loosen the restriction. 00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:54.559 And the irony in this is that the the affordable housing piece won with a massive majority, and then the loosening restrictions for development lost by a significant margin. 00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.360 So it doesn't even matter then that the other one passed. 00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:57.760 Right. 00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:58.719 So that's what I'm saying. 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:17.360 Like the the irony in this is that like the voting base of people, either we're not educating ourselves enough, or our whole state only listens to whatever television show that they what they watch and whatever they're being pushed, which are great. 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:19.679 That's a kudos to marketing, right? 00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:35.599 Because if you turn on, you watch the same thing every single day, and four times in that half hour show programming that you watched tells you to vote for Bacero or tells you to vote no against restrictions for new development because it has to do with environmental changes, right? 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.199 Oh lord, which that's exactly what that bill was written as, right? 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:53.199 So the problem with that is that if everyone's so much so like, hey, we need more affordable housing, well, how are we gonna get there if you have to jump through 50,000 hoops? 00:36:53.280 --> 00:37:03.519 And I'm not saying build unsafe projects, I'm not saying slap a house together and put a thousand or slap a condo complex and put 1,500 people in something that's deemed unsafe. 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:28.239 But if it has to go through the bureaucracy over and over and over and over again, we're now, I mean, just anybody who's like, like out of curiosity, if you looked up, you said, like, hey, how much does like how much does the state view a one-bedroom, one bathroom uh like apartment for a homeless person, that they're a unhoused person, sorry, a homeless person that's going to need uh subsidized living. 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:33.519 They say that that cost of that one apartment space is six hundred thousand dollars. 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.039 Get the heck out of here, so that's six hundred thousand. 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:37.519 Correct. 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:59.280 So that's why when you start getting into the numbers of everything, when it runs, when it funnels through the government, they've inflate numbers so much to make it worth their while because this guy's hiring this person who hires this person who hires this

person, and everyone takes a piece of that pie except for, well, hopefully, but we all know that's not true, except for the legislator that's voting on this, right? 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.760 So you know they're getting a piece of the amount of corruption that's coming out of it. 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:10.079 Listen, if I was in that position, and I'm being honest, like, would you not take a handout from it? 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:11.920 I mean, it would be pretty tough to not. 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:13.119 Okay, okay. 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:14.480 I know I shouldn't. 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:14.960 Right. 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.320 Right, because ethically that is not appropriate, right? 00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.119 But, dude, let's be let's be real here. 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:21.760 You know what I mean? 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:22.880 Like, that's exactly what happens. 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:30.880 Yeah, the greatest example is how are these people going into Congress or the Senate and all these other um elected officials, right? 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.599 At what$150,000$170,000 a year? 00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.960 And then in two years, you're worth$20 million. 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:38.159 Dog. 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:43.840 Come on, that that's that's gotta scream corruption to people, and yet nothing's being done about it. 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.960 I mean, okay, and then let's go to just our state alone. 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:48.400 Yeah, bullet train. 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.039 Get the dude, unbelievable. 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:51.440 How many? 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:52.239 What is there like? 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.559 There's like a quarter mile of track laid. 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.559 Yeah, it's it's been there for years. 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:10.079 There are like$350 billion in the hole on something that it was like if you really if you asked, maybe if you asked anyone outside of LA and Sacramento, yeah, like what does this do for you? 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.280 The answer is nothing. 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:11.920 It does nothing. 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:13.920 I will never use it, I'll never be on that train. 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.840 There's no reason for us to have that train. 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.320 And the fact that it only goes from LA to Sacramento is already ridiculous. 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:26.960 Like if you said, hey, we're gonna go from San Diego to Reading, you're like, okay, all right, it hits a ton of stops along the way. 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.440 And you have a fast, high-powered train, public transit, it can make it affordable, all of that good stuff. 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:33.119 You'd be like, Oh, okay, well, you know what? 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.239 That actually makes more sense. 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:40.719 So, well, why not even like why don't we just go from you know, Northern California to LA to Vegas? 00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:42.000 Bro, that'd be cute. 00:39:42.079

--> 00:39:43.599 I would take it a bullet train to Vegas? 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:44.079 Absolutely. 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:45.920 I hate driving to Vegas. 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.559 I mean, I it's well, I hate driving home from Vegas, let's put it that way. 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.000 Yeah, going there is always the fun part. 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.440 But coming home takes double. 00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:19.920 But uh, yeah, it's just, you know, when it gets when we're just talking about these measures and everything, it's like, at what point are it like as a society, are we gonna stop like voting for your political lines and vote for actually what makes sense for the time period or maybe the area that you live in, or like actually like to make a better change because that's all it seems. 00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:26.880 It seems like we're so far down the list as far as like, oh, uh, who supported that? 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.920 You know, you'd be like, hey, uh, look, we're gonna we're gonna open up the ability to make affordable housing. 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.760 But in order to do that, you gotta vote for some conservative that's backing it. 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:37.840 People are like, oh, I can't do that. 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:38.000 Right. 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:43.280 I can't vote for why it's like, well, I've always voted liberal or I voted Democrat or whatever. 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:44.880 It doesn't even, I don't even care about the party lines. 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:50.639 I'm just saying I've always voted for this one person, and because that person's against the person that I normally vote for, therefore I'm out. 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.320 I'm like, you already, in my opinion, that sucks. 00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:02.239 And you are a detriment to our society because you are no longer voting with the thought of I shouldn't say detriment. 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:03.519 You just hold us back. 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:14.079 You know, it's like if you're not voting to try to make the situation better, and if when you read through these measures and it's just like, look, if one of them doesn't take sense, take five seconds and look it up. 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.280 Well, that's the problem, is most of everyone just reads the headline, right? 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:17.519 Yeah. 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.000 And then if you look at the news, it's all prokay, I'm gonna say it propaganda, right? 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:28.000 The news is gonna tell you because they're bought out, and they're gonna tell you what they want you to know and hear so it goes a certain direction. 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:28.719 Right, right. 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:34.000 But uh to me, what I look at at the end of the day, it's like, okay, what's gonna benefit my family, right? 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.079 Who who's hitting our pocket the hardest? 00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:44.559 Let's get them out of there, let's get more money back to the people so that we can thrive, our children, their futures can thrive. 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:49.760 That you know, why are we doing we're the highest taxed uh state in the union? 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:50.000 Yes. 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:54.800 I mean, there's so you look at our paychecks, it's probably it's half, if not even more now. 00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:01.840 So at one point, what point is it gonna be like, okay, we need to leave this state because it's it's too much? 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.480 And I think that day is probably gonna come. 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.119 I don't want to be someone who's putting out doom and gloom. 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:13.440 But if I look at everything that's happening objectively, what is the future for my son and daughter here? 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:13.760 Right? 00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:15.199 We were able to buy our homes. 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:21.199 We we were lucky enough to be in a time that we could uh afford to buy like my first house was 300 grand, right? 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.280 My second house was like 425. 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.480 My other one, like the one I'm in now was less than I was just above 500,000. 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:29.920 Um my kids will never see that. 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:30.320 Never. 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:31.760 I don't think that'll ever happen. 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.920 And you know, in the area I live in, uh a fixer down the street is going for 1.1 million, a fixer. 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:38.639 Yes, okay. 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.880 So who this is supposed to be a middle class community, middle class, right? 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.199 Right? 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.239 Police, fire, teachers, plumbers, electricians, all this. 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.559 Yeah, so especially over here. 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:54.480 Yeah, well, how are they going to be able to afford that, especially with the interest rates where they're at now? 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.000 You're talking about a seven to nine thousand dollar mortgage. 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.480 Get the what what are you talking about, dude? 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.639 That's that's that's for some people, that's not even their whole check for the month. 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.920 They're gonna have to get another job, work overtime, whatever they have to do. 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.840 So now you're away from home even more. 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:11.679 You got the financial stress, right? 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.440 You're house rich, cash poor. 00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.679 Yes, it's it's almost impossible. 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.559 Now add in all these extra taxes that we're doing. 00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.119 Like, what happened to being a government for the people? 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.840 What what what is wrong with doing what's best for the people? 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.400 I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican, right? 00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:31.920 If if you're

gonna say, if you're a Democrat and you're like, hey, we're gonna cut all these taxes, this is too much now. 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.199 We're gonna bring everyone's registration down, flat rate, 110 bucks a month for every car, right? 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:38.800 Cool, bringing a gas tax down. 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:39.760 No, all this stuff. 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:40.480 But like, you know what? 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:41.840 I'm voting Democrat, babe. 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:43.360 This is gonna help my wallet, right? 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.760 Dude, I uh but that's that's where I'm at with it too. 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:52.800 It's like that's why, you know, I might have I have value systems that maybe align with some fiscally conservative stuff. 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.280 100%. 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:59.760 But at the same time, if there was something that was appealing that would help the pocketbook and help the betterment of my family. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.320 Family, like I'm absolutely looking that with the most intent. 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:04.639 Right. 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:09.360 You know, so it it's it's that's the unfortunate side, I think, with where we're at. 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.199 And I and this hasn't been a new thing. 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:17.519 I think this has been going on for, you know, at least we're or at least I've been paying attention to it more in the last decade. 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.920 And it doesn't seem like it's getting any better. 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:20.239 No. 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:36.800 And I don't know what the answer to that is, but the the part that at least gives me a little bit of like hope is that is that there are look, there's like for a great example, and I would I'm not lobbying for the state of Alabama in any way, shape, or form. 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:42.639 I'm sure it's great in its own capacity of things that are good there and you know, whatever, just like anywhere else. 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:56.880 But an example would be, and I don't know the governor's name uh for that state, but uh, was reading, it was like a week or two ago, that um actually no, someone at work was talking to me about it because they live out in Alabama. 00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:57.360 Okay. 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:14.480 And they were saying that because the gas prices have been astronomical across the board throughout the country over the last couple months, that the governor was gonna override the uh legislation that doesn't allow them to sell red dye diesel. 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.000 I don't know, do you know what red dye diesel is? 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:17.679 Yeah, is that for the for the farm equipment? 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:18.480 Okay, correct? 00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:19.119 Correct. 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:24.000 So agricultural, so they have because it's it's such an agricultural state. 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:25.199 Alabama, right? 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:26.559 In Alabama, correct. 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:49.440 Uh, that they have like like a caveat, like a like a I don't want to say caveat, but like if if you you know you have the opportunity if you're in the agricultural community for like these big, you know, tractors and different kinds of crop stuff, that you can purchase fuel at a lower price because it's all diesel, but you can't purchase it for your personal car. 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.000 So that's why they put a red die in it. 00:45:52.239 --> 00:46:04.320 So basically, like if you were trying to sling that on the side for a cheaper price and someone pulled you over and checked your dipstick and was like, or not dipstick, but like checked your gas tank and were like, hey, uh muffler or something like that. 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:12.079 Sure, but there's no it's uh I because I thought I was like, well, maybe it's like a more of a crude oil or something where it's like maybe emissions issues or something along that line. 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.559 No, it's the exact same thing, it's just red. 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:23.840 And they only they only do that to allot it for agricultural like businesses, essentially, so they have a cheaper rate so they can do more work at a cheaper rate. 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:41.199 Um, but that governor is lobbying to open that up for sale to everybody because they have they have a massive uh diesel vehicle uh percentage in that state, and that would be like the quickest way to help people out at the pump that are driving, you know. 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:45.280 I mean, look, we drive a ton, we're constantly filled up what once or twice a week. 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.039 And here, like in my truck, it's 140 bucks every time I fill it up. 00:46:49.280 --> 00:47:03.360 Same dude, you know, and if that can't if that came down three bucks a gallon, I would at least be saving another 50, 60 a week, which you know, that could be a dinner for my family, or paying off a bill, or doing doing something, you know. 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.920 It's like every dollar literally matters. 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:14.480 And, you know, we live in a state where I think virtue signaling takes over common sense, like financial approach. 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.320 Oh, there is no more common sense, yeah. 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.000 So, you know, but and that's it, where you're like, you're like, I'm at the point where I'm highlighting what Alabama does. 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:22.800 You know what I mean? 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.119 I'm like, we're dude, we're we're California, baby. 00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.599 Like, we're supposed to be like the place to be. 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:28.239 Premier. 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.280 It's supposed to be premier. 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.239 It's supposed to be, and for some reason, we're not. 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:43.840 No, and you know, I mean, that dude, not I shouldn't say for so there's so many things to talk about, and we don't have

time to cover all these like different different things, but I did find that fascinating with the with the last measures that they're trying to push with the bill, yeah. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.840 And then, you know, we end up getting a new governor. 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.039 It's like, okay, cool, man. 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.480 You know, prove it, prove the naysayers wrong, is all I'll say. 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:57.039 But if you're front running off of a fuel like a mileage tax, like to start this off, brother, what are you doing, man? 00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:08.239 You know, you if you and if you look at like social media and everything, because the news of course wasn't covering it, but dude, um, Hilton was moving dog, he was campaigning hard. 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.559 Bacero didn't do much, no, it not nothing really, dude. 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:21.360 And you I saw so many people at Hilton, the big crowds, even over here to what Huntington Beach and Oceanside, and and Becera wasn't doing much. 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.360 Okay, and then he would just talk about a fuel attacks and okay, bye, do his thing. 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:34.000 And you know, if you look at the numbers from videos you see online, especially on X, because I look at most get most of my news from X, because that's where the truth definitely comes out. 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:35.280 Yeah, there's a lot of information. 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:38.239 Yeah, huge numbers, and the guy wins. 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:44.159 Which you know, and at the end of the day, I'd tell people you need to understand, like, your government doesn't care about you. 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.480 Yeah, you're just a pawn, dude. 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.079 You they that that's it, you know. 00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:49.360 So I don't know. 00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:57.039 It's one of those things where I'm looking at now, as far I do think moving out of California is probably gonna be in the future. 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:06.800 It's just not like I have what I have here and we're good, but it's more or less now like, okay, I need to set my children up for success, and what's that gonna look like? 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:08.880 And it's definitely not California. 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:16.800 There's more opportunity here for jobs, but where are they gonna find jobs to pay them two, three hundred thousand dollars a year to afford a million-dollar home? 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.760 I mean, there might be now, but I mean, I wouldn't even say that there's those now. 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:26.639 I mean, like the job market is it's tight depending on what you're looking for, right? 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.800 You know, or what's your either education or background or whatever it is you're trying to do. 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:36.719 Yeah, you know, I think at the end of the day, I I don't know how they change it up with this state. 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:52.239 I don't do because it's like, look, dude, like if you're gonna make cuts, if you're gonna do regulation cuts, you're gonna do anything along the lines, it's going to hurt, or I shouldn't say hurt, but it's going to limit some of the abilities to subsidize for people who don't have stuff. 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.000 And there's that fine line. 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:55.599 It's like, you know what I mean? 00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.360 And I think that's where it's like it gets to the point where is that true? 00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:00.400 Is it not true? 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:13.679 You know, and you can find the answers to both ends of that question that are just as strong of arguments, you know, because you'd be like, oh, look, there's all these people, they have nothing, therefore they should they should get help, right? 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:15.119 And it's hard to argue that, dude. 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:15.760 You know what I mean? 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.039 Like if you have nothing, you really have nothing, you really can't work. 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.840 Because there are some people that qualify as that. 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.159 Yeah. 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.599 Then it's like, okay, then yeah, this is the way the system is built for you. 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:25.840 Yeah. 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:38.079 Because at least you have the ability to survive, but not, I don't think it's like you're, I don't think it's like you're uh like uh you're entitled to thrive, though. 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:46.400 You know, unless you're like disabled, then yes, send the book at these people and make sure that they're comfortable and happy. 00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.119 Outside of that, able body working. 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:50.320 You should be working. 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:51.920 You should be working, in my opinion. 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.320 You know, and again, this is a very touchy subject. 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.000 So I'm not just saying everyone. 00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:03.840 I just mean there is plenty of examples of people that just take advantage, just like the rich people that screw over everyone to get to that spot. 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:05.039 I don't like those people either. 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:05.840 You know what I mean? 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:10.880 I was like, I was like, I don't want people to take advantage in any capacity, whether it's your rich or your poor. 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:11.599 I don't like it. 00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:12.880 So, you know what I mean? 00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:18.079 So it's like until like that middle ground group goes like, we gotta iron this shit out. 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.519 Yeah, you know, then we're gonna continually go down the hole. 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.480 And like you're saying, for our kids, who knows, man? 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:32.239 Yeah, we're we're 15 to 20 years out from having a look at it, and it doesn't look like we have anything on the horizon that's gonna make it much

better, right? 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.000 You know, not to doom and gloom this. 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.239 Everything can change, no, but always can change. 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:41.280 These are conversations you have to have because I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people thinking the same way. 00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:42.000 Yeah, right. 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:43.039 What what are we gonna do? 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.440 How are my kids gonna thrive and do well here? 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:51.840 And you know, you talk about those programs, and it's true because you know, it's all I say, I tell people it's kind of like medication, right? 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:57.119 You get on medication to take it, get healthy, get off it, not be on it forever. 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.840 That is not like high blood pressure med, it's high cholesterol. 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:03.360 Okay, get on this, let's get you healthy, eat right, diet, exercise, blah, blah, blah. 00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:03.519 Right. 00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:04.400 Then we get off it. 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.400 It's not like, no, well, I can do, you know, I can have this food because I took my cholesterol med. 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.000 Bro, it's not how it works. 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:11.760 No, that's not how it works. 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:12.239 Right. 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:12.960 Not at all. 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.840 But I mean, what the answer is, I don't know. 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:21.280 Uh, it's just one of those things where, you know, especially I want to call our friends that live in Texas. 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.760 Like, dude, how do you guys feel about Texas combo? 00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.039 Because I wonder what's gonna change, right? 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:31.440 There's a lot there that could happen that we could talk about another time, but oh yeah, I don't know. 00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.639 It's just a different time in in our country and our state. 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:45.599 But at the end of the day, I had this conversation with another person at work because they're big into politics and this, and it's kind of like if you turn on Fox or CNN, it's always gonna be a doom and gloom, whether you're right or left. 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:46.800 Okay, it's the end of the world. 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:48.320 That's why I don't turn it on, right? 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.000 I just want to enjoy my day here. 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:58.159 But at the end of the day, if God's ultimately in control, you believe in him, he his promises in the Bible are true. 00:52:58.559 --> 00:52:59.519 He's gonna take care of you. 00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:01.199 But will it get hard at times? 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:02.079 Absolutely. 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:09.760 He'd never promised in his word and scripture that it was gonna be blue skies and unicorns and money just falling from everywhere. 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.519 No, no, but he said, I will always be with

you. 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:20.239 So that's one thing I always take in it and like internalized, like, okay, this may not be going good, but God's gonna trust you with this, right? 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:25.840 I'm gonna trust you in the good, I'm gonna trust you with the odd and weird, but I'm gonna trust you with the bad. 00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.239 And at the end of the day, we're gonna be okay. 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:28.800 Right. 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:37.599 That's why I always say, even if it means we move out of the state, and it's we're done and we're gone, because ultimately I am responsible for my wife and my children. 00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.039 That's who I'm responsible as a married man and a believer, right? 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:42.079 I gotta take care of them. 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:50.960 If that means I gotta make a hard decision and bounce out of here because my whole life is here, everything I do is here, surfing, like having fun, everything, right? 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:52.320 Well, guess what? 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:56.239 I need to leave and do what's best for for my kids and build a future in a way for them. 00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:57.519 So it just is what it is. 00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:59.280 But build that compound, dude. 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:00.159 I'm so ending up. 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:02.880 I told somebody that, yeah. 00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.960 Yeah, I was like, hey, let's like I could make a lot of money off my properties, dude. 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:13.280 And if we go somewhere, we let's buy like 50 acres, yeah, and freaking let's build a compound. 00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.679 You you can have the far side, I'll be on this side. 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.880 We can have little parcels we can build and get other people on here. 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:19.679 We'll be good to go. 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:20.960 That would be sick, it would be good. 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:22.719 But Jordan, so good to have you back. 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.039 Man, I'm glad honestly, I was a little nervous. 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:25.920 It's been a little while. 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.400 Jordan's back, Jordan's back, baby. 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:29.760 Well, thank you for listening. 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:37.920 Yeah, well, hey, and one thing I always like to tell you, dude, like I I love and respect um the man that you are because you do put your family first. 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:39.840 You have no problem telling people, no, can't do it. 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:40.719 I gotta beat my family. 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:42.800 And I love I I freaking I freaking love that. 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:44.000 It's it's important, dude. 00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:44.880 I appreciate it. 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:46.239 You know, you always made it. 00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.960 This has always been really easy as far as you know. 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:54.320 I mean, with when it comes to things come up and like I think the flexibility between the two of us, you know what I mean? 00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.960 Like just you just make it work and it's always been fun. 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:58.800 And I appreciate being back on here. 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:00.159 Hopefully, there's more to come soon. 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.400 Oh my gosh, there's absolutely more to come soon. 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.159 But dude, we're gonna end this right now. 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:05.679 You ready to do a let's go on three? 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.039 Oh, I thought you were gonna grab the card. 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.079 No, dude, we get the timeline's a little close. 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:10.400 All right. 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.400 Who would you punch in the face from the 1980s? 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:16.159 I don't know. 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:19.599 I love it, man. 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:21.119 But uh, let's do a let's go on three. 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:21.519 You ready? 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:23.199 One, two, three. 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:23.760 Let's go.

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