Fullständig transkription av Episode 151: Cop Killer Charges DROPPED, NYPD Sergeant CONVICTED, NYC in Trouble with Rory Capra and David Giordano

00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:02.200 up a round table with some hot topics. But the 40 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:05.680 first one I want to speak about is Detective Jonathan 41 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:11.319 Dill's murder murderer. So he is as we know, he 42 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:15.719 was acquitted for the top charge murder. One. Let's talk. 43 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.400 Cory. Yeah. 44 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:21.759 I just think that's you know, it's disgraceful. It seems 45 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.199 like any time now a cop is involved in something 46 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.680 and there's somebody charged against committing any act on a cop, automatically, 47 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:29.759 they look to knock it down. They're looking to knock 48 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:33.039 it down from you know, from the soul to you know, 49 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.039 the harassment, or from in this case of murder, down 50 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.639 to a man slaughter. There's always like an excuse, there's 51 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.479 always something that that negates making the top charge, you know, 52 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.879 mostly from political motivations. 53 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.439 Right exactly. I believe the perpetrator's name is Dirobera, that's 54 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:53.639 his name, Riah top charge, acquitted for the top charge, 55 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:56.319 which is ridiculous. I know he was found guilty of 56 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.159 ball the other charges, which is fantastic, but it should 57 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.039 also be that Topps as well, David. 58 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:06.879 But that aside, it's the morale, it's you know, it's 59 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:11.800 just another nail in the morale coffin of of NYPD 60 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:17.159 cops that go out every day and and have to 61 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:19.840 confront these these people. I remember when I was a 62 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.800 young cop in the Bronx with with this guy over here. 63 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:24.080 Guys Worth in the Bronx. 64 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:26.280 Yes we did. What a preas was that he was 65 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:27.000 a four one. 66 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.400 I was in a four to h four. A similar 67 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:37.039 situation with Rory the the the guy that shot all 68 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:41.919 the e s U Cops back in eighty eighty eight. Oh, 69 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:47.000 Larry Dave, Larry Davis, you know, the same thing knocked 70 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.599 the charges down. He subsequently went to jail and was 71 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:51.319 killed in jail. 72 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.199 But what a shame. 73 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.560 I mean, yeah, we you know, we went out patrol 74 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:58.000 after that feeling like crap. 75 00:03:58.439 --> 00:03:59.719 And at the time he was one of the most 76 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.280 wanted people in the Bronx. That that that started one 77 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:03.800 of the biggest manhunts in the Bronx. 78 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.479 Remember that, Yeah, I remember that, ye yep, yeah, when 79 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.120 he was following the arrested actually was it was the 80 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.240 Chief Johnson, Chief Chief. 81 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.160 Johnson, the riot helmet. 82 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.360 Yeah, and then he got three quarters for rolling stones 83 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:24.079 conc yeah, right right in stadium. 84 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:24.319 Right. 85 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.360 But it's you know again, it's just like if morale 86 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:33.959 isn't bad enough, I know, it's just it's another nail. 87 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.800 It's somebody, even beyond the cops, Kevin and Dave. 88 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:42.079 You know, it's always been the philosophy that if a 89 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.160 person is willing to commit these kinds of crimes, you're 90 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.000 going to you're going to commit a murder of a 91 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:51.560 police officer. What message does that send to the average civilian? 92 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.240 What chance does the average civilian have. If somebody is 93 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.399 that heinous that they're going to go after an armed 94 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.800 police officer and commit a murder, Yeah, but civilian hasn't 95 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:03.839 got a chance. They're not even going to hesitate to 96 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:04.680 shoot somebody else. 97 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.720 Well, I always say too is you know, I tell 98 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.600 friends of mine Warren on a job actively retired, I say, 99 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.199 just think about it. If the perpetrator is going to 100 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.199 disrespect the police officer and uniform and assault the police 101 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.800 officer in uniform, what do you think they're going to 102 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:22.480 do to your mother or your fault exactly down the street, 103 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.399 exactly without a uniform and a gun and a badge. Really, 104 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.079 just think about that, right, absolutely, So that will bring 105 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:33.720 us to our next topic. Actually, Sergeant Eric Duran, Yeah, 106 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:38.399 move up to the Bronx now, yeah, Roy, you're you're yeah. 107 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.839 Sergeant yeah, Sergeant Duran, Yeah, unbelievable. An another this is 108 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:43.600 another travesty of justice. 109 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:44.519 This is terrible. 110 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:49.000 You know, here he is a young man, thirteen year 111 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:52.639 veteran of the job. He's in narcotics. He's on duty 112 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:55.879 performing a what for the most part is a buy 113 00:05:55.920

--> 00:06:01.480 and bust operation, narcotics operation. They had the the suspect, 114 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.079 which was Eric Dupree, thirty years of age. 115 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:06.720 They have him, and I guess it was a hand 116 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:07.439 to hand they had him. 117 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:08.800 He was an ultimoy, wasn't he. 118 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.639 Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, and probably an honor student. Yeah, 119 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:12.240 I didn't see. 120 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:15.439 I didn't see his graduation picture from grammar school. 121 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.720 But in order to evade arrest and attempt to flee, 122 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:20.800 he's on the bike. He's on that motor bike and 123 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:27.360 you know, he's essentially according to testimony, the sergeant felt 124 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:29.759 that he was aiming right towards the other cops that 125 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:32.519 were engaged in police activity, and he was trying to 126 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.040 deflect him from either hitting or running over some of 127 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.279 those cops. So he picked up, sadly or unfortunately whatever 128 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.040 he happened to see there for whatever reason, was an 129 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.240 empty cooler and he just kind of flung it at 130 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.360 him to try to get him, divert him and get 131 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:46.800 him out. 132 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:47.040 Of the way. 133 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.319 So unfortunately, I guess, the coolest strikes him and then 134 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.480 he wound up hitting a tree, and then they hits 135 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.120 the curb and subsequently, you know, he dies. 136 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:58.360 But now all of a. 137 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.839 Sudden, you know, the police officer is now charged with 138 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.000 the murder, you know, and this is this is criminal, 139 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:08.000 this is this is insane that he then gets convicted 140 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:09.279 of a manslaughter. 141 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.040 He gets convicted of manslaughter too, you know. And this 142 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:13.160 is the first time. 143 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.759 I think in about ten years or so that another 144 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.240 act of on duty Connor is convicted. 145 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:25.480 Well, you know, the first one convicted back in nineteen 146 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:33.360 seventy seven for four Precinct Tommy Ryan convicted of a homicide. Sure, 147 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.240 And it seems to me rory since that seventy seven incident, 148 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:47.800 we've had numerous brons incidents. Well, whether it's Officer Sullivan 149 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:53.720 from MESU with eleanor Bumpers. Yes, Frank Levodi, Yes, it 150 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.600 seems like

the bronx is always the focus of these 151 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:04.360 kind of sure incidents. But so it's just it seems 152 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:08.439 like every certain amount of every decade there's another bronx 153 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:12.240 incident that's uh, making the headlines and another cop losing 154 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:13.399 a job or going to jail. 155 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:15.839 Sure, horrible, you. 156 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:20.000 Know, it's it's just it's just it's just crazy. I mean, 157 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.839 you know, people like Bruce Springsteen, who writes songs of 158 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.920 you know, all these perpetrators about doing it exactly. How 159 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.040 about doing a song for all the Wittles and children 160 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:32.480 and donating doing a tour to support and donate to 161 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:34.799 the Whittles and children. How about that? Sure of course, 162 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:36.639 hold your breath with exactly. Well, I'm not going to 163 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:39.320 hold my breath with that. But it's a shame how 164 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:40.679 these folks think in the. 165 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.960 You know, if it's if it's not the Bronx jury 166 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:48.960 that's convicting you, it's the Bronx judged that that's convicting you, 167 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:51.879 and every DA is looking to put something into the 168 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:52.519 grand jury. 169 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.600 Sure, right, but it's a continuation of the war on cops. 170 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:56.360 This is what it is. 171 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.399 We you know, the good guys are the bad guys. 172 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:00.679 The bad guys are the good guys or somehow they're victims. 173 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.080 They have a bad life, they've had something, so that 174 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.279 excuses any crime, any heinous act that they may do 175 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:06.919 against someone. 176 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.440 Well, the guy that was on the motorbike right basically 177 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.600 interfering in the arrest that they were making narcotics right, 178 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.039 everybody up against the wall, you know he was. I 179 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.240 would relocked. He should have been after he was here 180 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.799 with the cool He should have been cuffed with obstructing 181 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.759 government administration, obstructing government administration right interfering in the rest. 182 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:27.600 Put the cuffs on him. He's a collar, you know. 183 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:32.039 That's I don't think enough has been said about the 184 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:37.159 the the judge, this guy Ritchie Guy. Yeah, no, Guy Mitchell, Mitchell, 185 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.799 Guy Mitchell, Guy Richie is Guy Mitchell. I mean

he's 186 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.480 an activist judge. He comes from an activist family. His 187 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:49.399 father was an activist up in Westchester County. The apple 188 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:53.360 doesn't fall from far from the tree. So are we surprised? 189 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:53.440 No. 190 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.639 I will appeal help in this case. 191 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.440 Can only hope the sentence will be diminished because yeah, 192 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.559 I mean even even and this was a bench trial, 193 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.559 by the way, which you know, it's you know, the 194 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:10.960 general philosophy is that you know, when you think you 195 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:12.679 have the law on your side, and you're a police 196 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:17.600 officer and you were you were doing your job to 197 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:21.120 your best of your ability and your training, generally speaking, 198 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:23.559 you would hope that a bench trial is going to 199 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:24.879 eliminate the politics. 200 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:25.399 But it doesn't. 201 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.919 It doesn't eliminate the particularly you know. Unfortunately, seems like it's. 202 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:32.519 Interested in that you brought up the politics thing, R 203 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:40.919 because I noticed in our research part of the the 204 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:47.679 activists activism on this particular case, was this this guy 205 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:53.320 from the Bronx uh Hawk Newsom? Oh yeah, how Hawk 206 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:57.519 Newsom was involved in So I'm sure without a doubt. 207 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:04.120 Guy Mitchell, the activist judge took that into consideration as well. 208 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:05.799 Well, you have to start to wonder when you look 209 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.840 at somebody like Judge Mitchell. He was initially appointed in 210 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:13.759 twenty fifteen by wait for it, yeah, the Blasio may 211 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.679 have build a Blaso. And then he was actually reappointed 212 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:23.320 I think in twenty twenty two by Eric Adams, and 213 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.120 that's he's currently serving under that reappointment and I think 214 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.960 that that runs until about twenty thirty or twenty thirty one. 215 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:31.960 Wow, so he's going to be around for a while. 216 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.240 So he's got a lot of cops to fry along 217 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:34.600 the way. 218 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.600 Now, I did hear something today, and I'm sure it's 219 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:42.519 accurate information where if Blakeman, Bruce Blakeman was to win 220 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.799 as New York state governor, sure if he beats Hulkal, 221 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:47.639 which I hope he does, I'm

not sure, but hopefully 222 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:53.960 he can. He would you know he would tell me 223 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:57.840 out here, do a pardon, thank your pardon, because someone said, well, 224 00:11:57.879 --> 00:11:59.320 Trump would probably do it as well, but I don't 225 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:00.000 think Trump can. 226 00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:02.200 Do because the state is a state issue, right. 227 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.799 So it would be uh Blakeman could do it, I 228 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:06.799 mean could do it too. We ain't gonna do it, no, 229 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.840 So that would be that would be great. You know, 230 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:14.000 if it came to that, hopefully on appeal he could win, 231 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.519 and if not, hopefully he can be uh you know, pardoned. 232 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.039 Yeah, And I'm glad that Bruce Blakeman actually took this 233 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.679 as a public position. He's making this part of even 234 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.120 his platform now as he's running for governor. But I'm 235 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.120 glad he did because that's standing up for law enforcement, 236 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.919 and it's standing up more importantly for overall the people 237 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:33.240 of the city of New York and the people of 238 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.679 the state of New York because enough is enough. 239 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.120 It's just it is enough is enough. And and you know, 240 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:40.879 there's a lot of good people in this city still, 241 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:43.200 and you know, and if again, if no one's going 242 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.399 to respect law enforcement, how the hell do you expect 243 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:49.679 for your family to be respected by he's but he's uh, 244 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:53.879 perpetrators and you know, pos right, Well. 245 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.679 You know what I wanted to mention something else that 246 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.399 we run a topic with the judge so you know, 247 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.519 as Dave indicated, you know, we have like an act 248 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.200 of as judge. But yeah, yeah, he had one other 249 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:10.679 big controversial ruling that went back to a case in 250 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.600 twenty eighteen. I don't know if anybody remembers that, but 251 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.759 there was a young man nineteen years of age, brand 252 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:22.960 Lee Gonzales. He wound up beating a like a fifty 253 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:24.879 nine year old man to death who was I believe 254 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:25.879 he was a homeless guy. 255 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:27.799 But he beat this guy to death. 256 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:31.600 Because allegedly this man who was in the street said 257 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.480 something or may have made a remark that was interpreted 258 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.720 to be something that was negative with just his girlfriend, 259 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.320 you know, Gonzalez's girlfriend, and he subsequently beats this man 260 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:46.440 to death. He pled out, he pled all right to 261 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:52.720 first degree manslaughter, first degree. The judge was trying to 262 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.440 find ways not to give him any time, and I 263 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.200 guess at the time it created some controversy in the papers, 264 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:03.080 and then he kind of re evaluated, so he accepted 265 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:04.960 the plea and gave him like a year and a 266 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:08.759 half sentence on a first degree manslaughter. So we did 267 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.000 about nine months. And I keep emphasizing the first degree 268 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:18.240 because why Sergeant Durand. Yeah, got convicted of second degree 269 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.000 or lesser offense, and he's getting three to nine years, right, 270 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.559 which means he's gonna have to essentially do at least 271 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:27.879 a minimum of three years. And by the way, he 272 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.799 denied the appeal. He denied, I'm sorry, didn't he denied 273 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.399 the petition to not give him incarceration, right, he just 274 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.159 tossed that jan Yeah. 275 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:40.679 Well this Mitchell and I have a hard time referring 276 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:47.360 to him as judge. Activist Mitchell said, this is a deterrent, yes, 277 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:52.600 for other police officers. Yeah, who may you know act 278 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:59.320 in a disorderly type of conduct. But I found it 279 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.960 to be it's should be a deterrent for the common 280 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.279 drug dealers that are roll in the streets that they 281 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:08.279 could get whacked with another cooler. 282 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:10.679 Well, we all know that's political code speak, and the 283 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:12.840 cops that's the politically coded mastership. 284 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.799 The cops do nothing exactly, which we've been down that 285 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.240 road many times. Yes, absolutely, until something happens and like, okay, 286 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:22.120 you know, do your job right. That lasts for a 287 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.519 little bit. Yeah, it's really you know, it's it's really 288 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:30.320 it's really crazy. I wish Eric Duran much much luck 289 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.240 and hopefully he does, you know, able to appeal and 290 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:36.120 gets off and if not, hopefully well the SBA point. 291 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:39.639 The SBA, I think is spearheading a defense fund for him. Yes, 292

00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:42.679 from one of your previous guests, Vinnie Dolla Long, who 293 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:46.080 is now the president of the So Just Benevolent Association. 294 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:46.679 Have any information on it? 295 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:47.480 I do not. 296 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.320 I will actually was looking for that, but it is 297 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.879 on their website. So I didn't have a website. Need 298 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:53.759 to look at it, but yes, it is. The the 299 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:58.360 Defense Foundation or defense Fund is listed on the on 300 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:03.440 their website, and also the National Police Defense Foundation. That's 301 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:07.919 the right, which is Joe Aacapini. Yes, yes, so it's 302 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:09.960 like a co it's it's I think it's a thing. 303 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:10.799 Is all doing? 304 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:12.879 Or is is there something on the website where you 305 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.080 could click to make a donation? 306 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:15.759 I believe it is. I haven't looked at it yet, 307 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.360 but I believe. So you do that right after the 308 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:19.279 SHOWP there you go. 309 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:24.240 You know what it just rehash in the Livoti case. 310 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.600 I found it very peculiar. I didn't know this until 311 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:32.759 I read up on this. So the judge, the federal 312 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:40.639 judge that sentenced Livoti, is this Shirah Sinlein. It's the 313 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.759 same one that that ruled against the stop question at 314 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.320 frisk in two thousand and thirteen. 315 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:46.840 I believe. 316 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:51.360 So another one, another activist. They're all over the place, 317 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:55.799 whether they're at the state level, federal level, they're out there. 318 00:16:57.720 --> 00:16:57.919 Yeah. 319 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:04.079 So okay, let's touch on the uh the machete guy 320 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:08.799 in Grand Central Station the other day where he three 321 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.480 different platforms at Grand Central Station subway in New York 322 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.799 City subway station. I don't get confused with the actual 323 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.960 Grand Central Station, which would be MTA police and Railroad Police, 324 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.799 et cetera. It was in YPD patrolling and he actually 325 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.279 basically tempted murder. It tempt to kill three people, but 326 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:32.079 he injured them. They survived, and then he was confronted 327 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.640 by NYPD and they did a great job. They took action. 328 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:37.519 Have to tell him numerous times. You don't have to 329 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.799 tell him once. By the way, they tell him numerous times. 330 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:41.599 They dropped the weapon and he did not. He came 331 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:43.759 at them and they shot him and he died. 332 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.960 So how many different languages do we need to tell 333 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:48.200 them to drop the knife? 334 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.400 Exactly? I love it. You know, you see the commissioner 335 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:55.359 on TV trying to really emphasize and explain. Yes, they 336 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.319 said to stop twenty two times or whatever it was. Sure, well, 337 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:01.200 I even say that it was acted. Dropped the knife police. Hello, 338 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:05.000 we're in uniform police, don't move, drop the knife. Okay, pop. 339 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.839 And it's like I was explaining it to you guys earlier. 340 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.039 I was in Detroit at the time. I would like 341 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:13.119 to have been here to see a good shooting for once, 342 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.839 you know. But he died at scene. 343 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:20.599 They yeah, whether at the hospital later or that's there. Yeah, good, 344 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:23.279 one one down. 345 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:26.480 And the cops were on overtime in the station. 346 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:28.359 I'm not sure I believe they were. 347 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:29.799 I believe they were all on overtime. 348 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.359 They had already done the full shift and they were 349 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:34.079 there on one of the initiative overtimes. 350 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.079 Yes, yeah, yeah, well everyone all the uniform patrols getting 351 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.960 here with the yes, transit overtime, you know, yes, but 352 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.480 you know, detectives agetting here with a lot of overtime too, 353 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:48.359 which they put them in uniform at transit locations and 354 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.640 different details, which I get because we're short man Powell, 355 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.480 but I don't get because then they got to go 356 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.839 back and deal with the two hundred cases that will opened. Sure, 357 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.319 maybe the drops have stopped leaving everything open to the 358 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.319 detective squad. Maybe we should start there a lost cat, 359 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:06.640 leave it open to the squad. Sogeant don't know what 360 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.920 to do. Cole a squad. I mean, well, do respect 361 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:13.319 to Sagan, but you know, you guys, not even every 362 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:16.720 shore up to the squad. But yees said that was 363 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.240 one for the good guys, you know. 364 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.160 And there again that perpetrator,

which who is his name 365 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.000 escapes me now, but apparently he was also a person 366 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:28.200 that was known in his community, known to walk around 367 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:30.200 with this machete. And if you see this thing, I 368 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:31.960 mean it's a machete, so you're talking about you know, 369 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.079 two and a half three feet long, you know, and 370 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:35.960 I think it even had like a serrated edge on it. 371 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:37.440 But he was known to be walking around with this. 372 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:39.920 So obviously this guy's not right in the head, he's 373 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.799 not all there where was any interdiction for him then, 374 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.079 you know, now everybody's looking for Oh, well, did the 375 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:47.039 cops act properly? 376 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:48.799 Once again? Did they do the right thing? 377 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:49.079 You know? 378 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:51.799 Did they told him twenty two times to drop the knife? 379 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.599 Should they told him twenty five? You know? Where was anybody. 380 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:56.440 Where was his family? 381 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.559 Where was anybody looking to intervene with this guy when 382 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:01.640 he was walked around in his neighborhood with dismission. 383 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.920 Listen, it's the same thing with the bumper's case before 384 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:09.240 she was evicted out of that apartment for not paying 385 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:14.039 a rent for nine months? Eleanor uh, where was her 386 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:19.599 her family got involved? After she was killed? Yeah, you know, 387 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:23.240 where were they for the for the years prior to 388 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.880 trying to get her help? Absent? 389 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:26.400 Yeah? 390 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:28.799 Yeah, No, these cops absolutely, they should be given all 391 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.400 the credit in the world because, you know what, in 392 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:36.400 today's reality of policing, cops go overboard, not to use 393 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:41.680 any type of uh, excussive force, they're trying to go overboard. 394 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.680 I mean, you're telling somebody twenty two times, Kevin, you've 395 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:47.880 been in situations, Dave, You've been in situations. 396 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:50.000 You know, we've had them in the Bronx. 397 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.799 Where you know, sometimes it's life and death split decisions, 398 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:55.880 you know, and and and whether or not you're going 399 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:58.279 to tell somebody to drop something once twice and that's it, 400 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:00.720 and you know what, they start lenging at you, coming 401 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:01.319 at you with a knife. 402 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:02.799 You don't have time for twenty two times. 403 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:05.000 You know, the fact that you can do that with 404 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:08.240 somebody just goes to show the extent that the police 405 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:12.920 are really self conscious about how they're viewed about how 406 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:15.759 they interact with the public, with people that are obviously, 407 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.599 you know, mentally desurbed. He's an eedp, you know, and 408 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.559 they were trying to preserve his life to the extent 409 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:23.680 that they could. But you know what, once again, I 410 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:25.920 don't think cops get enough credit for what they do 411 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:28.599 and how much they try to make sure that they 412 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.319 can use the minimal force possible to affect that arrest. 413 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:34.799 I mean, everything we're discussing today comes back to, Okay, 414 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.920 you're telling the police officers don't do anything. Yeah, and 415 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:40.519 that's that's not what they signed up for. They signed 416 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.960 up to do their job and sure citizens in this 417 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:45.359 you know, in this five borrows and people coming in 418 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.759 every day from Jersey and Long Island and upstate to 419 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:51.559 work in midtown financial district wherever they want to be safe, 420 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:54.839 feel safe, and they don't want to be coming to 421 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:56.599 work scared to death and go on home scared to death. 422 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:59.039 They're with a machete on the way. 423 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.400 Exactly know I got those cops were there. 424 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:03.799 Thank god, Yeah, exactly, thank you, because if not. 425 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:05.759 That could have led to mass deaths. 426 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:07.759 When you started swinging that machete, he could have took 427 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:09.359 out god knows how many people. 428 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:14.720 True, very very true. You know that we was speaking 429 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.599 about the city of New York. How about let's talk 430 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:20.279 about Menda Mandamy. What he wants to do with the 431 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.200 retirees benefits. 432 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:26.000 The retiree benefits. Well, you know what, that's funny. That's 433 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.960 a that's a topic that keeps rearing its ugly. 434 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.000 Head, so pops up every now and then. 435 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:34.599 So he's, uh, he's looking at uh, he's facing a 436 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:36.559 huge deficit, and he was looking at it like

something 437 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:40.319 like a two hundred and twenty nine million dollar raid, 438 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:44.160 I believe on the on the retiree health benefits, which 439 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.680 I mean, that's just that's just obscene, you know, in 440 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:50.480 order to do what in order to fund uh the 441 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:56.279 free health care, the free uh uh bus child's care. Yeah, 442 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.359 the child's here stores and yeah, which is funny in 443 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:03.440 itself because that's already some of the proposals on that 444 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.720 it's already facing course to overruns on what he initially 445 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:07.759 proposed that was going to be. 446 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:09.039 And he wants to put one on every borough. 447 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.279 Yeah, yeah, so, but my question is not only even 448 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.480 if you can build them and you can initially stock them, 449 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.480 how do you restock them? What moneyes do you use 450 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:19.200 to restock them in order to either distribute or sell 451 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:20.680 things at a di camp price? 452 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.480 You know, Rory getting back to the rating, the pension 453 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.480 fund and so on. Correct me if I'm wrong, Kevin, 454 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:32.640 you may know as well. Didn't the city do this already? 455 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:33.359 Yes? 456 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:38.559 And that led to our besef right. 457 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:40.359 Well, that's why I said, what's old is new again? 458 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:41.920 You know, but it comes around. 459 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.599 They reinvent the wheel, and now once again we're talking 460 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.799 about putting health benefits and other benefits in jeopardy because 461 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:49.680 me wants a rate of fund. But you know what, 462 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:52.839 you still have to pay that back. Even if you 463 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.279 were to do that, Who does that fall on? It 464 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:57.920 falls on the taxpayer. It's the taxpayers, and some of 465 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:00.960 the taxpayers it's us. It's us on the taxpayers. Not 466 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:02.440 only do you have to pay back the initial loan, 467 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:03.720 but you also have to pay back interest. 468 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:04.319 It's a circle. 469 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:06.680 So yeah, it's it's. 470 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.200 A rabbit hole that you don't need to go down 471 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.559 because you know, what you need to guarantee those benefits, 472 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:12.480 especially for. 473 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.240 Us now that we're retirees, you need to guarantee that. 474 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.440 But you know what, the court themselves has said that, 475 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:20.960 the Court of Appeals itself has said I think it 476 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.440 was back in twenty twenty four they finally came to 477 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.279 a definitive statement on it and they said, no, you 478 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:31.359 know when that managed healthcare, it's nonsense, And no, the 479 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:35.559 city has an obligation to uphold the essentially the contract 480 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:40.720 that they entered into with city and the municipal municipal workers. 481 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:43.119 And the employees. Yes, you have to fund that healthcare 482 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:43.400 for them. 483 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.400 Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's his circle, you know, jerk 484 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:52.200 you it's it's it's ridiculous. Everybody was panicking about that. 485 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:53.240 I know your union, are. 486 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.200 You all as you know? Yeah? Because you know what 487 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.680 hebaa SBA. 488 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.759 It's interesting with one of the programs that he wanted 489 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:02.559 to do, because something where essentially it's like the city 490 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:06.559 would be selling so to speak, our information, our private 491 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:12.440 personal information, healthcare information to a third party administrator, and 492 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:17.640 that administrator then will then in turn use AI and 493 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:22.039 put you into a like risk categories of whatever they 494 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.599 think you know, conditions you fall under. 495 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.799 Can you imagine where that's going to go? And let 496 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:29.559 alone data breaches. Yeah, you know, how often do you 497 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:30.079 get a letter? 498 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:31.799 You know, I bet every one of us has gotten 499 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:33.759 a letter from from a credit card company of saying 500 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:35.920 so somebody saying, oh, yeah, we've had a data breach 501 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:37.640 and we're gonna you need to monitor your credit for 502 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:39.519 next year. Can you imagine what's going to go on 503 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:39.759 with that? 504 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:40.240 Yeah? 505 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:46.920 All the time? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, a real innovator that Yeah, yeah, 506 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:52.480 it's you know, crazy, crazy, crazy. So I mean today, 507 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.319 you know, coming over here to the studio, and I'm 508 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.920 sure you guys seen it as well, does every traffic well, 509 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:02.119 pedestrian traffic, pedest traffic because of all the protests now, 510 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.119 these these ice

protests. You know, I think it's going 511 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.680 to be a hot summer, you know, with protesting. And 512 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.960 again that's we said that so many times on the show. 513 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:13.319 Shut it down, you know, you know, you know, it's 514 00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.720 a designated area for protesting, and you're stay in that area. 515 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:18.480 You go out of the area, you're a collar. You're 516 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.039 getting arrested. But they won't untie the city, the police 517 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.680 departments hands, especially now I'm sure, man, mam and dammy, 518 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.559 do whatever you want. Make it a parade until we'll 519 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.400 turn into a parade, you know. But there was a 520 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.000 protest I happened to pass by today and I'm like, 521 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:33.920 this is ridiculous. 522 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:34.759 Where was that? 523 00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:38.240 Uh this one was on in the thirties on the 524 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:41.960 west side, not too far from the garden. 525 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:43.799 Was this an ice protest? 526 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.319 Ice protests? Oh? Ice ice ice, You're not lemon ice 527 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:48.240 ice ice. 528 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.680 No, like I it's not a facility over there. 529 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.480 No, they've just been pro just popping in general protests. 530 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.759 You know. It's the pop up protest. It's nice weather 531 00:26:58.799 --> 00:26:59.559 they've been I. 532 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.039 Thought they'd down to twenty six Federal Plaza or something, 533 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.680 that's what it should be, but they'll chase them out 534 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:03.920 at it. 535 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:05.599 So they're popping up all over the place, you know, 536 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:10.119 all over the place, and it's just ridiculous, you know. 537 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.039 And they did uniform. Now they want to get rid 538 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.240 of uh what is it, the what I called the 539 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:15.759 Task Force y sr G. 540 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:17.319 Yes, they want to give rid of. 541 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.759 I think they put they put that on hold, and 542 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:20.799 they still want to get into that. 543 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.359 My understanding is that's on hold. 544 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.440 It's somewhere with like the the the Youth Gang database 545 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.559 that that initially, uh, they were talking about, you know, 546 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.480 expunging the whole database, and I think, you know, the 547 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.519 wisdom of the ways is, you know, common sense has 548 00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:39.119 prevailed there a little bit because that information is is 549 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.160 in some cases critical to interdicting future crimes. 550 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:48.359 Well, the same it's the same with the Five Family database. Yeah, 551 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.079 you know, if you're going to get rid of the 552 00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.319 the Youth Gang Database and then get rid of the 553 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.039 Five Family Database, let's you know, let's have a clean 554 00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:57.279 slate across the board. 555 00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:58.079 Yeah. 556 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:03.000 True. But going back to the ICE agents, as we know, 557 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.039 they've been helping out TSA at the airports. You know, yes, 558 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:09.720 and my observations and my experience, they've been doing a 559 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:13.680 great job. But the news, the press makes it sound like, oh, 560 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.680 TSA doesn't want them to they I don't want to 561 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.079 be there. Meanwhile, they they're talking to each other, joking around, 562 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.920 they get everything moving, they're doing their job. They're working 563 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.279 very well together, you know, understanding this press very well. 564 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.839 Yeah, and in fact, they've had some very positive press, 565 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.160 you know, despite what but yeah, but they've had some 566 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:38.400 very positive interactions. You know, they've they've saved a few lives. 567 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.200 They've you know, they've stopped a couple of crimes. 568 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.680 Handing out water too, And they're handing out. 569 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.799 Water, handing out water and moving along the line along. 570 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.720 You know, you just think, oh, geez, I got an 571 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.359 eight o'clock flight, I gotta be the airport of five 572 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.599 five hours, three hours, four hours earlier. No you don't, Yeah, 573 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.519 you really don't. They and tsa pride that was doing 574 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.480 a pretty good job, Ice got involved and it's just 575 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:03.440 working out. Well, you know, it's all. It's all what 576 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:04.960 they want you to know. We'll want you to hear. 577 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:11.319 I should say, not sure, you know, but I mean, gentlemen, 578 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:11.640 you know. 579 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:18.039 Tables open, tables open, Rory, Oh, the table's open. 580 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.880 Let's see if I can we talk about notes here? 581 00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:21.440 See what else? 582 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.599 What other notes you have there, mister Capra. 583 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.000 Well, we had made mentioned but there's really not a 584 00:29:34.000

--> 00:29:36.880 lot to talk about with that. But we were talking 585 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.039 at one point, we were discussing, you know, off air 586 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:46.400 about Jonathan Diaz, which is another case that occurred in 587 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.599 the Bronx that went back to the twenty seventeen fatal 588 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.279 shooting of the mother of four that was out just 589 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.920 trying to get some dinner right for her children, bringing 590 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.039 home to her four sons home, but freed us. 591 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.359 Yeah, and unfortunately. 592 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:08.480 Jonathan Diaz got involved in shooting and multiple shots and 593 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.480 he shot this poor woman who was Cindy Diaz I 594 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.079 believe it was her name, no no relation, but shot 595 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.880 her in the chest and she subsequently died in the hospital. 596 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.920 You know, another tragic, tragic. 597 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.440 And that's did you say that not gone to trial 598 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:23.880 yet or. 599 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.960 No, it's not gone to trial. That incident occurred. That 600 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.799 was about January I think of twenty seventeen. January of 601 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.119 twenty seventeen. Multiple shots was Boston Road in East Tremont. 602 00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:41.480 You remember that section. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so very well. Yeah, 603 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.200 he was arrested, charged, and I think his last appearance 604 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.119 was in November I believe of last year of twenty five. 605 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.599 So that's still you know, very much up in the 606 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.240 air where that's going to go trial wise. 607 00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:56.759 So I hope this judge, guy Mitchell, doesn't grab hold 608 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:57.000 of that. 609 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.519 Yeah kill activist. Uh you think commissioner is going to 610 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:03.119 stick around? 611 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:04.839 Interesting question? 612 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.799 I don't know, you know, you know, there's there's a 613 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.640 lot of rumor you know that that they're getting along 614 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:13.920 well behind the ses there's other rumors that you know, 615 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.440 it's sometimes touch and go. It could be day to day, 616 00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.359 So it's hard to say, I think for right now. 617 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.000 You know what, Honestly, she's doing a very good job 618 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.759 in keeping the ship righted. You know, she's trying to 619 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.960 balance what is essentially the impossible. You know, she's trying 620 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.880 to balance public opinion, mayor's agenda, the police department and 621 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.599 put the best you know, face forward for the police 622 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:43.519 department in keeping morale up and motivated and having people 623 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:44.200 do their job. 624 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.839 Yeah, that's an oil and water situation with her in 625 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.759 the mayor. I mean, from two opposite sides of the tracks, 626 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.319 those two and you're right, and what a balancing act 627 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:55.920 she's got to do. 628 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.519 Yeah, really every day, every day is right. 629 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.680 Every day she has to do it, you know. And 630 00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.119 you know, I noticed, Mindammie when he came out to 631 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.599 speak about the guy with the machete, he didn't say 632 00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:10.440 the police did a good job. I mean maybe he 633 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.200 did it on a different press conference than when I 634 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.240 was watching or here and listening to you. Didn't say 635 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.039 a word about them, just that basically shaying what happened 636 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.039 three people. You know, they're they're they're being treated at 637 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.200 the local hospital, and but nothing about the three officers 638 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.920 doing a fantastic job zero. 639 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.400 Well, right, But getting back to the summer of protests 640 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:40.079 that were anticipating, that's when uh, Jessica Tish is going 641 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:41.119 to be put to the test. 642 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:42.160 That's the real test. 643 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.759 Yeah, let's see what see what happens with that. 644 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.559 Well, that will because you're going to potentially be in 645 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:49.559 for the long hot summer, you know, and then we're 646 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.599 going to see, as you mentioned with the SRG, We're 647 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.359 going to see are they going to be used, will 648 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.559 they be deployed, will they be told to sit back? 649 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:57.720 Let's talk about the mounted unit. Are they going to 650 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.279 be utilized? Are they going to be utilized? Going to 651 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.799 sit you know down the block ten blocks away actually 652 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:04.839 ten blocks away and they want them, you know, the 653 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.039 police forces to call them there. 654 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:09.000 Did they scale did they scale back the number of 655 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:09.839 horses we have? 656 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:10.960 That? 657 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.359 I don't know or you have any idea, you know, 658

00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:14.119 I don't. 659 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.880 Know that, but I do know that the amounted unit 660 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.559 does always talk about that because it's it's an expensive 661 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.480 unit to maintain. That is an expensive unit to maintain 662 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.480 with the horses defeating the care and those horses get 663 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.359 tremendous care. Yep, you know they really do, you know, 664 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.680 and their love by their by their officers. 665 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.279 They're all like retired racehorse. Yeah, racehorses, you know. 666 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.640 I mean, it is an expensive unit to maintain, so 667 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.200 there's always talk about that when you're look at a 668 00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.039 budget cuts that they may, you know, try to scale 669 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:40.440 that back. 670 00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.880 Their use really in riot situations hasn't been for some time. 671 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.519 No, no, not true, I would say through the Blasio yeah, 672 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.839 and and Adams as well, right now. 673 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.240 Quickly ceremonial at this moment, right, I don't. 674 00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:56.400 Think you read them anymore. 675 00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:57.720 You used to see them once in a while for 676 00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:59.799 traffic down in Midtown, but right I don't think you 677 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:00.319 have seen that. 678 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:01.759 No, you don't really see them to much in Midtown. 679 00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:03.759 You know, when we have Troop A and B. Troop 680 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.720 B was Midtown and added by Midtown nor priestsint Hey, 681 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.280 I think it is down by the first person, I 682 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:08.760 think that was. 683 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.760 Troop A, and are they still there? 684 00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:12.079 True? 685 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.000 B is I don't which is Midtown? Yeah, I don't 686 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.079 know about Troop A, you know, by the first person, 687 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.440 I think it was used to think they Yeah, yeah, 688 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:26.199 I'm sure it's downsize, watered down union today because they don't, 689 00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:27.880 like you said, it's very expensive, they don't, you know, 690 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.239 maybe just not replacing the horses. Moving forward. 691 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.239 Well, they always used to say though, that was one 692 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.000 of the best units in the job for a young 693 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.639 single man. Maybe now even for a young single lady, 694 00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.239 I know, but it used to be for you those guys, you. 695 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.079 Know, let me tell you it was a good job 696 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:41.920 for a young marriage. 697 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:42.039 No. 698 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.679 Anyway, the guys in Midtown, you know, they'd be, you know, 699 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.239 taking pictures with everyone, you know, everybody they left, They 700 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.119 met people from all over the world. They're not leaving, 701 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.800 you know, you know, thirty forty fifth Street, forty second Street, 702 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.719 you know. And uh, I remember one time they tied 703 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.679 up a couple of horses at the Marriott Marquee guys, 704 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.800 you know, because that's where they would feature sometimes to 705 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.840 marry Marquee. And I'm going back years and back in 706 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.920 the eighties, and they tied up their horses and horses 707 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.679 got looser Broadway, you know, all you guys up says, 708 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:18.679 you know, showing but uh yeah, thank god the horse 709 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.719 got back and nobody, no money was got jammed up, 710 00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:22.480 it was all good. 711 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.079 Or they would listen. When I was stuck for a 712 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.159 speaker at a community council meeting, I always had in 713 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.760 my back pocket a couple of guys from Mounted that 714 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.639 love to talk about horses. When I was stuck, I 715 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.280 went right to the Mounted phone number. Come on up, 716 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.719 you know. Oh, yeah, they bring the horse up. 717 00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.000 Yeah, it's a nice I've brought some folks over to 718 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.320 true Be to you know, check out the horses, take 719 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:49.199 pictures with them, see how it works, you know, because 720 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.199 it's I mean, they got to you know, they two 721 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.639 hours probably I'm even going out to the street that 722 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.639 you know, feeding them. They're grooming them there, you know, 723 00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.199 saw doing everything and then get them all saddled up 724 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.559 and then go out. They probably spend half their tour, 725 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.679 you know, getting them up and running, as well as 726 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.760 you know, putting them to bed at night. They'reparently out 727 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:09.440 there four hours. 728 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:09.639 You know. 729 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.679 Then I think in the winter, after a certain whether 730 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:17.079 a certain degrees like maybe below forty thirty five, they 731 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:18.119 can't bring the horses out. 732 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.679 There's rules regulation carriage

horses the same thing, you know, 733 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.559 if it's too hot, yep, they got to come in 734 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:24.920 if it's too cold, they got to come. 735 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.559 In so they would have the h they drive around 736 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.079 in the mount to. 737 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.599 Cause interestingly long interestingly though, it's never too hot or 738 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.239 too cold for the cop to stand down there, right, 739 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:36.079 no matter what. 740 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.440 Yeah, let me feel your shield. How you been out there? 741 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.039 How come it's warm? It's ten degrees out. I'm sitting 742 00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.320 in the you know, in the vestibule over there in 743 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.239 that building. You know, crazy good good good times, good times. 744 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.480 But yeah, I mean it's just crazy. What's going on. 745 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.079 I think it's going to be a busy summer. I 746 00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:57.800 just feel it's going to be a busy summer with 747 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.559 everything going on today. The mayor we have, it's gonna 748 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.599 be it's gonna be test for maya test for the commissioner. 749 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.199 It's gonna be very interesting, though. See what happens now 750 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:11.119 and if they ever SRG, which I don't think they 751 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:12.960 can or will, but if they. 752 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:19.639 Do, they may do something similar to meth. They may 753 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.480 just scale it back like they did it with all 754 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.800 these other details. They'll scale it back. 755 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:25.920 Yeah, you know. 756 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:30.280 Well, Well, the other issue that just by necessity about 757 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.239 talking about scaling back, that we really didn't touch on 758 00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:34.039 for a while. 759 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:35.719 We're losing cops. 760 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.719 Still we're not you know, if you remember, they stopped 761 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.719 they stopped the class off. I think it about five 762 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.440 thousand they want to hire. They said there's no money 763 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.800 for that, so so they stopped that. But we're still 764 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.119 losing on average, I think about two or three hundred 765 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:49.559 a month. 766 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.360 There's a class in now, correct, that's. 767 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:54.679 Why don't just graduate? 768 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:55.920 Yeah, I think they just graduated. 769 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.239 That was the one of the ones that was the 770 00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.199 one of the last one is coming out of Mayor Adams. 771 00:37:59.440

--> 00:38:01.719 Correct that he but in just before he left. So 772 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:06.480 the one that was scheduled next was stopped. Yeah, well, 773 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.440 at least as far as I know for now. Yeah, yeah, 774 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.119 so there's nobody. But we're still losing a lot of cops. 775 00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.800 So again, as we come into those summer months when 776 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.519 you're gonna need all these cops, that's why everybody's on overtime, 777 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.000 and when you're gonna need them for these these extra details, 778 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.519 you're gonna have less and less because traditionally, the two 779 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.559 times that every baby retires is January and July, and 780 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:28.920 that's where we're right around the corner. 781 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:30.320 You know. 782 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.800 What happens too, is they have five hundred recruits signed 783 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.199 up by the time they're sworn and maybe down to 784 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.800 four point fifty. Right then who gets called for NASA, 785 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.440 Suffolk Fire Department in Rockland County wherever, Stage Department and 786 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.000 FEDS whatever. Now you're down to maybe three hundred, and 787 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.760 you have like six hundred leaving every month. So it's psyching, 788 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.599 you know what I mean. You're you're again, you're still behind. 789 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.159 You're taking two steps forward, yeah, right, exactly one step 790 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.440 forward and three steps back, you know. But but yeah, 791 00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.679 I mean that's what's happening. It's a shame, you know, 792 00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.480 it's just uh yeah. 793 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.320 I think they actually have another police exam. I think 794 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.320 they just announced for another police exam. 795 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:14.320 Well did they? I believe so. 796 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:15.920 I think there was something. I don't know when it's for, 797 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.280 if maybe October. I could be totally wrong on that, 798 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.840 but I do recall seeing something recently about another police exam. 799 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.239 Well, then you have these others. Say, let's just take Florida, 800 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.679 State of Florida. Some of these police departments down there 801 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.440 were often if you say NYPDE, you know you come 802 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.480 from a big department. They were offen a five thousand 803 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.599 dollars signing bonus. No academy, they're pushing blown off the academy. 804 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.920 No academy sign up right on patrol. Maybe refresher course one, two, three, 805 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.360 five grand sign up and you know, not sure what 806 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.440 their pay is down there. But and of course the 807 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.760 living is cheaper, right, But it's the quality of life too, 808 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.679 you know. It's at least a department that will back 809 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.679 you up. People who are happy to see you. Yes, 810 00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.199 they don't want to spit on you. They want to 811 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.079 give you a up of coffee, you know. But that's 812 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:07.039 what's happened to guys going out of state. Sure, it's 813 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.639 just uh. I know of a detective who was a 814 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.960 detective had time on his job too, and he left 815 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.159 in well time on. He about eight years on. It's 816 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.320 time on today, and he went down to Palm Beach 817 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:23.320 eight years on in a detail. 818 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:24.840 Well, it is a. 819 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.159 Big problem because the city has become more and more 820 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.760 unaffordable for the average police officer. They can't afford to 821 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.119 live in Manhattan, and you can't afford to live and 822 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.480 have a family even in some of the out of borrows. 823 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.760 You can't afford to live there. And even now you 824 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.000 go up up the line. 825 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.000 You go to Westchester. Westchester is becoming increasingly unaffordable. I know, 826 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.679 it's ridiculous what the average rents are everywhere. 827 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.280 Well, I think we spoke about this on the show before. 828 00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.880 You know, why can't you live in Jersey, which is 829 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.960 some parts of Jersey much closer and way up state NewYork, 830 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.639 which you're allowed to live live here in Jersey, you know, 831 00:40:56.719 --> 00:41:00.159 maybe a little cheaper, Okay, and then because to the 832 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:01.800 state of Jersey, this is New York. I get it, 833 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.320 but figured it out, work it out, because first of all, 834 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.880 you want manpower there you go Jersey, Pennsylvania, warts of Pennsylvania, 835 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.519 closer than way upstate New York. Sure where you're allowed 836 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.760 to live, you know, just right now she at five 837 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.559 Boroughs and west Chester, Orange Rockland. You can live there 838 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:24.119 and work be on the job. Maybe North Bergen, which 839 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.840 is pretty close to New York City, Ramsey. Those types 840 00:41:27.880 -->

00:41:30.960 of areas, they are parameters New Jersey. I'm sure there's kids. 841 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.320 I know as a fact, we all know there's kids 842 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.280 who came on the job from there, who lived there 843 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.400 and used an address here and then eventually got an 844 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.039 apartment here until they got situated in They you know, 845 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.559 kind of apartment or a house somewhere else. But basically they 846 00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:46.800 came from Parameters, They came from Prep Pattison, they came 847 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.559 from Ramsey, New Jersey for Fort Lee. There you go right. 848 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.559 In Fort Lee. 849 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.559 That's true. Were you the maze Eric Adams? 850 00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.960 Oh yeah, No, he lived in one of the high 851 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:08.039 rises on uh like Leamoyne Avenue. I wasn't his neighbor, no, 852 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.400 if anywhere nail Lemoyne Avenue. 853 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:11.519 But I went through. 854 00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.480 He still hangs his hat over there. 855 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.920 No, I think now he's moving to Albania. 856 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:16.719 That's right. 857 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.159 Well, there you go Albania. Why how did that come about? 858 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.880 I have no idea, that's it. But it is interesting 859 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.559 because Banians are very good cooks. 860 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.599 Oh no, no, I have a lot of Albanian friends. Yeah, 861 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:33.840 and in fact bought the rams Albanian Yeah, no, good, 862 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:34.519 good people. 863 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.400 He was a vegetarian. I don't know, but. 864 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.800 Well he tells you everyone here he's a vegetarian. Behind 865 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.519 the scenes. He's stuff at a stake down his throat. 866 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.119 Well, there was a time that he was saying he 867 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:51.559 wanted to move to Israel, right right, he was going 868 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.480 to move to Israel. He's got friends in Turkey, right 869 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:58.480 and friends in Turkey, but now international. 870 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.039 Yeah, no, no, the world, the end of the world. 871 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:02.880 He is a man in the world. But let me 872 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:07.559 ask one last question here with this roundtable. Who would 873 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.039 you say, of course, man, Dammy's gonna w and I 874 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.519 know it's three years from now, but overally two years 875 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.000 they'll get going. But who would you say it's interested 876 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.199 in even being a mayor anymore? I mean, uh, Curris 877 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:25.000 lost twice. Adams of course couldn't do two terms. He's history. 878 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:31.039 I mean, let's he makes a comeback. Uh Cuomo, God knows. 879 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:35.079 And Dammy, of course, I'm assumless. He gets up, Bruce 880 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.199 Blakeman comes in and moves in, which you know if 881 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.159 he screws up or Trump comes after him for some 882 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:45.440 reason President Trump. But I'm just like just throwing it 883 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.280 out there, like if you if the Ray may's race 884 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.519 was tomorrow, who do you guys think. 885 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:54.440 It's gonna be? Were the activists of some sort? I'm surprised. 886 00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:57.320 Quinn what was her. 887 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:03.119 Oh she was the oh city or you remember. 888 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.400 She was the city speaker city speaker? Yes, yes, what 889 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:11.119 was her first name? Quinn? So she ran for office 890 00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:12.239 years ago. 891 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:14.920 I wasn't that short lived. She didn't really. 892 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.079 I thought for sure she'd make she was up becoming star. 893 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.000 She was going to make a comeback at one point. 894 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:24.719 No one more left wing than her. 895 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.519 But but you know what, it's tough. I mean, you know, Democrats, 896 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:30.360 there's no end to them. 897 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.440 You'll always find somebody that wants to run I think 898 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:36.280 on the Democratic ticket. It's a Democratic town. Uh, you 899 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.400 know it's it's it's gonna be no more. 900 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.280 It's gonna be who's the less the lesser of two 901 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.360 e on a Democratic The only. 902 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:48.000 Way Republican would get in is three is now? Three? 903 00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.760 Three is now? If Mindmmie really really shipped the bed, 904 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.960 I mean and and destroyed the city, and you really 905 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.480 need you got to go to the other route with a 906 00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.719 Republican like they did with Giuliani and Bloomberg. That other 907 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.199 than that, I don't see it happening, you know, anything 908 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:04.679 short of that. 909 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.800 No, Hey, listen, Andrew Juliani, if you're out there. We 910 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.639 haven't heard from him in a while. He ran for governor. 911 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:11.800 He had one show. 912 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:16.000 I think back at the White House, he's. 913 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:19.159 Working on the the UH soccer tournament that's coming up. 914 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.280 Be a White House though, right, so he's back with 915 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.599 the White House pretty much. Yeah, yeah, Andrew Giuliani, Yeah, 916 00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:27.960 you know, I never know, you know. 917 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.760 The John Katz says it best. You need a common 918 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.760 sense democrat. Absolutely, forget there's not going to be a 919 00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.719 Republican that's going to win this may oral. No, you 920 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.400 need a common sense Democrat. 921 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.960 Maybe John kats Matiz will run again. Who knows the judge, 922 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.239 Judge Weinberge Weinbergberg mayor Yep. 923 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:50.920 No one common sense than him. 924 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.280 Absolutely, and he's a Democrat. 925 00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:54.199 He's a Democrat. 926 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.800 I love him a long time, good good friend him 927 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.760 a long time. So, gentlemen, any last words. 928 00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.000 Uh, David Patterson FA Mayor. 929 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.320 Corey No, I'm just wishing sergeant to ran. Well. 930 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:17.159 I'm hoping that again we all do with that appeal, uh, 931 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.199 that it's going to go forward and with the defense fund. 932 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.079 So for anybody out there, please go to the SBA 933 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:27.480 perfect website. I'm sure it's probably going to be lined 934 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.119 up with the PBA as well. 935 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.159 Or look for the National Police Defense first. 936 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.400 I'm sure there'll be many everyone will be gathered together 937 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:35.679 again behind that fund. 938 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.719 Sophie can please, so he's remanded, right, now correct. 939 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.320 Yes, oh yeah, they took him run into custody and 940 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:43.960 of course then you know pump conviction. 941 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:45.119 He was subsequently fired. 942 00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.360 So so we'd all, because we're all friends with ed Mammot, 943 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:51.159 good friends of their mammot, we'd all like to wish 944 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.599 Captain ed Mammont get well soon. We miss you. We 945 00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.840 can't wait to have you back. Okay, until next time. 946 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.039 If you like what you're hear, you can subscribe. I 947 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:01.840 have to top twelve. You could also follow us on 948 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.480 social media. But until next time. God bless you, God 949 00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:09.239 bless America, God bless law enforcement throughout the country, and 950 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:22.960 God bless us military. Thank you,