Fullständig transkription av Backstage & hitting all the right notes with Eric Vetro

thought that was incredible. I really did. I really loved being there, so thanks Leila for including us and it was just wonderful. So I feel like, you know, whenever I throw a party. I think I've said this before, but my new thing when I throw parties, especially well smaller parties like dinner parties, I always think I'm only going to invite people that I'd want to sit with and spend time with, because if I don't want to be next to them. I don't want to invite them, right because if you're like, oh well, I don't want to get stuck talking to that person, they shouldn't be on your guest list. I really thought this guest list was curated beautifully and it was just such a nice group of people and interesting and I felt like I met so many new people. And as a matter of fact, one of the couples that we met Lilli and Paul, who were so sweet and we have mutual friends with we were Terry and I were out to dinner with Cat last night and we ran into them with their kids, and it was just so nice and so I feel like when you can make connections like that, it was just a very successful evening. It was so so, so fun. But I really loved walking away feeling as if I had made some really nice connections with people, especially women. So it was just great. I loved it. Oh my gosh. Remember I said that Coco had a volleyball tournament coming up in Las Vegas and I wasn't going. Guess who's going that would be me? Volleyball mom. She like literally begged me, and so we have a concert to go do on Friday night, and I said, oh, we have this concert to go to, so we can't do it. But she said, can't we go on Saturday? And I go, well, I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal. If the tournament is Saturday afternoon, so we could fly on Saturday morning, you can go and guess what, it's Saturday afternoon. Lucky mean. So no, I love watching her, Honestly, I really love watching her play. But you know, it's it's gonna be a very long two days. And then so there's just a lot of traveling going on because I'm going there and then literally immediately turning around the next day and going to New York because the season finale of Orange County Housewives is next week, which I'm very excited about for many reasons. But I'm gonna save all those thoughts for when I do the recap with Mandy and Jefferson after the reunion. I'm very curious to hear everyone's thoughts when the reunion finally wraps up. I'm gonna do an open thing on Instagram where you guys can ask me questions about the season and give me your thoughts, because I really would like to hear all that, and I'd like to answer questions that you feel weren't answered, especially because I don't know what the reunion looks like yet or what they're including or not including. So I'd really like to be able to answer all those questions and put any open conversations to bed and end the season properly. So that is that anyway. So I'm going to be traveling a lot, and then Max and I are taking a little trip to Boston, which I'm I'm

honestly very excited. So if you guys remember a few years ago, I start, maybe it was five years ago, I started doing a loon trips with the kids and then we got shut down because of the pandemic. And so this is the first time that Max and I are traveling alone together in a few years, and I'm so excited to do it with her and have that special time with her. Kat and Cocoa and I went up to la the other day and the three of us went shopping and had lunch at Italy, and it was just like, I feel like we're gay, you know, pandemic wise, at least that you know, we're seeing life come back, and that is so exciting. 00:10:34 Speaker 1: To me. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: So today on the show, Eric Vitro is going to be here. Eric is the greatest guy he First of all, he is brilliantly talented. He's a musical vocal coach to every singing star on the planet, and he has a new podcast and his stories are incredible. But he's also just the loveliest guy. And I get a lot of questions from all of you about performing and you want to perform or your kids want to perform, and how do you handle it? So we're going to go over all of that stuff, and I know you're gonna let up, So stay tuned because Eric Vitro is coming up next. 00:11:13 Speaker 1: This is Heather dr Bro's World. 00:11:20 Speaker 3: Meal prepping is difficult, but butcher Box makes it easy. Butcher Box is a subscription service that takes the guesswork out of finding high quality meat. Butcher Box sources their meat from partners with the highest standards for quality, so no more searching the grocery store for one hundred percent grass fed beef, free range, organic chicken, wild caught seafood, and more. Their sourcing decisions are made holistically, keeping the farmer, the planet, the animal, and your family in mind. You guys, this is so so easy. Their meats are amazing, They come packaged beautifully, and it's so great to know it's just all in there. You have it all ready to go. You don't have to run to the market nothing. Every month, butcher Box ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home, free shipping for the continental United States, no antibiotics or added hormones, and each box contains between eight to fourteen pounds of meat depending on the box you choose. That's enough for twenty four individual meals. You can customize your own box or go with one of theirs, but either way you get exactly what you want. This is your chance to never have to shop for ground beef again. Cause you're ready for this. Butcher Box is giving new members free ground beef for life plus get a ten dollars off coupon. Sign up at butcherbox dot com slash HDW and get two pounds of ground beef free in every order for the life of your membership plus a ten dollars off coupon. Log on to butcherbox dot com slash HDW to claim this deal. Geico asks how would you love a chance to save money on insurance well, of course you would. And when it comes to great rates on insurance, Geico can help like with insurance for

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who I thought, oh, this person's going to. 00:15:58 Speaker 2: Go someplace in life, like she's on her way someplace and is going to do special things. You know. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: You just had that energy and that feeling. There was always that feeling about you. And so then I was so happy when we got reconnected years later, Yeah, you know, because I was like, oh, well I knew it. 00:16:14 Speaker 2: I knew she'd be doing a million things and all great and fun. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: Thank you. So so let's go back to how you began, because we're both New Yorkers. You started on the East Coast, you know, very entrenched in music and theater and all of that. Did you think you were going to be a performer initially? 00:16:33 Speaker 2: Not really. You know, I dabbled a little bit. I did a few things. 00:16:37 Speaker 4: But from the time I was a child, it's the oddest thing. I don't know how to explain it. I just say I'm so lucky from the time I was a kid. I learned to play the piano when I was really young, and then in grade school I started playing the piano America the beautiful star Spinkle banner for the kids to sing at assembly in the morning and class. And then I started teaching kids songs and it just kept snowball. It was the oddest thing, and I always felt I remember when I watched movie musicals or watch people on television, I thought, oh, I want to work on that. I wish I was the prison playing the piano, or I wish I was the one teaching them the song. Don't ask me where I got it to teach it instead of do it, I just did. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: And you know, my parents we. 00:17:20 Speaker 4: Lived upstate New York in a small town, factory town actually, and you know, they looked at me like I was crazy. I remember my father's saying, what makes you think you're going to go to Hollywood and get to work with big movie stars? And I was like, because I want to. I don't know, I just want to do it. And so every day is kind of a gift. 00:17:41 Speaker 2: You know. 00:17:41 Speaker 4: It's a worn out expression or cliche to say I feel blessed, but I do because I get to do what I always wanted to do. 00:17:48 Speaker 3: You know, but you're more than that. And I'll brag about you, but you you're more than that. You have such a special gift. Eric is like not only the most beautiful human, you're so talented in so many ways. But one thing that I find so interesting about the work you do is how you can change a performance. And it kind of it kind of I rememberhen I first met you reminded me of like remember like Marnie Nixon. So Marnie Nixon, you know, famously sang for people like she sang for Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady. So she was the actress and Marnie came in and she did the singing west Side Story all these things. But people don't do that anymore. Now you have to be able to do everything. And I mean, like, for example, Rene Zellwegger, huh, who you just worked with in Judy. So to me, like, that's always been something I find so fascinating, is

how you can literally create a performer. 00:18:48 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I feel like I because I did it for so long. I worked with such a huge, wide range of people. You know, when I first did move to LA, I didn't have big stars. 00:18:59 Speaker 2: That was at that point. I was just working with anyone who wanted. 00:19:03 Speaker 4: To take a voice lesson, and I was making a living doing it, and so I would work with people like there was a nurse who worked in a children's hospital. There were people from all walks of life. And I do remember thinking to myself, you know, I think this is really good training because if I can make these people who are not singers, and they don't even aren't even looking to make their career being a pop star or you know, being an actor, if that's not even their career, but if I can make them sound really great, think what I'll get to do when I really get to work with people who that's what they want to do or that's where their talent lies. So I feel like I worked with such a wide range of people, and I think it's also you have to look at it from a holistic point of view. It's not just singing or singing exercises. How people feel about themselves, getting into the character. For example, if you're doing a movie musical, you really have to get into those characters, and how you speak during the day, what you eat, what you drink, how much you sleep. So many things go into it that are really important, and if one of those elements is missing, it can really change everything. So I try to look at it from a holistic point of view, and you know, approach people from every possible angle to make them better and to make them feel confident. 00:20:17 Speaker 2: And that's, to me, is the biggest key. You got to feel. 00:20:19 Speaker 3: Confident totally, because you know, as performers, most of us feel like, you know, frauds most of the time, imposter syndrome, and even like the most talented people feel like that sometimes. So yeah, so it is all about the confidence. 00:20:32 Speaker 1: Who. 00:20:32 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I know the answer this. Who was like your first big get? 00:20:37 Speaker 4: You know that People always ask me that and I never really know what to say because there was not one big person that all of a sudden, oh, he worked with this person. 00:20:47 Speaker 2: It was so gradual. 00:20:49 Speaker 4: You know, there was a girl who was in a Vita Amy and that was kind of a big thing working with her. And then I actually worked with this shows how old I am, but she was also very old. I actually did some lessons with one of the Andrews sisters if you read with them, and she was famous, but you know, they were already not in the heyday. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: But it was so gradual, little by little. 00:21:14 Speaker 4: And then I worked with some people in Les miz and fan of the opera here in it. It just kept going in such a step wise progression that there was no one big moment where you know. And then also a lot of the people, the kids I work with now that are big recording artists, whether it's Ariana Grande, Shawn Mendez, Camila Cabo Rosalia, all of those kids, I've worked with them for a long time. I mean I started with Arianna when I think about thirteen fourteen years ago, so she was not the megastar that she is now. I was with her as it happened, and I got to watch it, which was thrilling and exciting, and she and I talk about that on you know her podcast with me or Shawn Mendes. 00:21:57 Speaker 2: Just I got to watch all of them. Kamila Cabo was an girl. 00:22:00 Speaker 4: Group, you know, and I worked with the whole girl group and got to meet her, and then she kept taking lessons and so it was not like, oh when did you get to work with so and so? 00:22:10 Speaker 2: They were huge stars when I started with. 00:22:13 Speaker 3: Them, you know, right, that's so interesting. 00:22:16 Speaker 4: It's a really tricky question that there was no one big one. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: So how does that work? So you hear you have Shawn mends and you're working with him and he writes his music. So he's written this music, it's from him, he's performing it. How difficult it is to be able to be like, hey, Sean, you know, I feel like that chord, you know, it's a progression, like I don't know if it's sitting right, and you're I mean, do you have those conversations, you know. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: With some people, not necessarily with him. 00:22:47 Speaker 4: He's pretty good at knowing what he wants how he wants it to sound sonically. He has a really good ear for that and a very specific taste of how he wants to do things. So it would be more like sometimes we might talk about a key. Should it be a little higher, should it be a little lower. You know, there's been certain songs which he's changed the key a couple times. He's lucky has a wide range, so he has choices. But sometimes it's just which choice is the. 00:23:12 Speaker 2: Best, you know. 00:23:13 Speaker 4: And sometimes though with people, it can be anyone. If they've sung a song that they wrote a lot, sometimes it's helping them reconnect with that song. What was the feeling they had when they first wrote it, Why did they write it, what were they going through at the time, you know, that kind of thing, or just having the contents to feel my voice is ready to go today. You know, it's hard on those award shows, Grammys and Amas whatever. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: You have one opportunity. 00:23:39 Speaker 4: You get out there and there's nothing to lead up to it. You know, you haven't been doing a whole set. It's not like a whole concert where you have two hours to warm up to your heart at song. 00:23:49 Speaker 2: You just walk out. 00:23:50 Speaker 4: You got three and a half minutes basically, and that's it. So you want people to feel strong and ready to go when they step out on stage. And I feel like in my podcast, what I try to do is a play it to everything else in life. So whatever walk,

whatever you're doing in your life, whatever your career is, try to approach it from every angle. How can I be the best I can in this career? And every single time people do that, they always find they enjoy it so much more. Putting more work in actually brings more enjoyment because they feel good about it and they feel confident about it, and then they get rewarded, you know. So I always think I feel like I'm hoping my podcast is inspirational to people, whether they're a sports figure, whether they're a dancer, whatever it is they do. 00:24:34 Speaker 2: A dental hygienis, be the best one you can be and you're going to feel really great at the end of the day. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: Well, it's so true, and I think a lot of people are under the misconception that, you know, like you look at someone like Ariana Grande and you think, well, she has a god given gift, which she does. But if you don't practice and you don't you know, hone that craft and work at it all the time. And like you were saying, it's not just singing, it's the whole lifestyle and everything that you're putting into your day. And your self care and the people around you. That's what makes you that super successful person. 00:25:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my favorite part of Arianna's interview, by the way, on the podcast was that she brought it up herself about the amount of time she spends getting ready for a show, warming up, warming up her voice, during the day, being careful. She was sick for four months out of a year long tour and she only had to miss one or two shows the entire time, but she would take her time, you know, during the day, eat, write, sleep, enough, all of those kind of things. And I thought, oh, I'm so happy she's talking about this because now everyone who's listening to like you said, they think, oh, she just has this incredible natural voice, she's got this gift. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: But the truth is how amazing. 00:25:46 Speaker 4: That you know, she works really really hard at it, and that's why she is as good as she is. She didn't take her gift for granted, you know, she didn't get lazy about it. 00:25:57 Speaker 2: She never even to this day. 00:25:59 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm working with her tomorrow, and she takes it very seriously, works super hard. And so I say to people, if she's working that hard with all that talent, so should you yeah, should everybody. 00:26:14 Speaker 1: This is Heather drew Bro's world. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: Okay, I love jewelry, so do you? You know you do? And hello, Mother's Day is coming up, so let me tell you about Anna Luisa. They craft really high quality jewelry pieces at very very affordable prices. You know what, high quality jewelry shouldn't cost an arm and a leg. Carbon neutral from their packaging to their products, Anna Luisa works with trusted partners who share their values and meet their standards, so everything is priced fairly and produced ethically, no unnecessary mining or excessive markups, using recycled

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what I will say is she made it clear right from the start she. 00:29:49 Speaker 2: Didn't want any special treatments. 00:29:50 Speaker 4: She said, if I get this, I want myself and everyone else to know I earned it. I wasn't just given to me because of who I am. And as a matter of fact, I think in some ways it might have even slightly worked against her in the beginning because she is so identifiable as you know, a great pop star. I think what blew them away is she can sing completely differently. She can sing with a completely legit Broadway voice. She can sing that music in a really incredible way. And I think they probably really appreciated that. She didn't ask for special treatment. She said, I'm just going to go in like everybody else going in, and she did. And there was a lot of competition. 00:30:26 Speaker 2: I know because I worked with a lot of the people who audition for it. 00:30:29 Speaker 3: So how do you deal with that? So you've got like four major people going in for the same thing, and you know what each of them are singing, and are you sitting there like, hmm, the other one's gonna do better? Or how do I help someone? 00:30:45 Speaker 1: Like? 00:30:45 Speaker 3: How do you do that? 00:30:47 Speaker 2: You know? 00:30:47 Speaker 4: All I really do is try to look at the person on an individual basis and go, how can I make this person the best they can be? 00:30:54 Speaker 2: Or how can I help them be the best person they can be? And that's all I do. 00:30:59 Speaker 4: I actually try to ignore any other thoughts about any other performer going in. I just try to see the individual because and there was more than four, by the way, but because they are all talented, They're all beautiful, talented girls. I just tried to look at each one individually and give them my recommendation what they could do that would make them sound their best, act their best, perform their best, and then I let go of it. You know, the rest is up to the fates or I guess the casting gods. 00:31:31 Speaker 2: And the director and the producer all of that. 00:31:34 Speaker 4: I mean, they are lucky that they have a great director, a great producer, all the people involved with the casting agents. They're all like top notch great people. 00:31:43 Speaker 3: Oh I got So what about TikTok? How I'm curious on your thoughts on TikTok because TikTok is really birth in huge stars. I mean Olivia Rodrigo for example. I mean, I don't know if you work with her, but she she's I mean I just love the tone of her voice and I think the song she's so talented. Born from TikTok. So you have really great stories like that, But I think there's also kind of these manufactured like let's call them recording artists, okay, that have launched from TikTok. How do you feel about that whole thing? Do you feel like singers should be singers or is a auto tuned you know, like recording person as. There's space for that too. 00:32:29 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. 00:32:31 Speaker 4:

Sometimes I think people forget that there has been a form of that for years. 00:32:37 Speaker 2: For example Vine. When Vine was in. 00:32:40 Speaker 4: Existence, a lot of kids came out of Vine, and there were quite a few of them that had a bit of a career for a minute. And what I always say to people is the ones that worked the hardest. Shawn Mendes would be at the top of that list. He worked so hard from the day I met him. We did our first lesson on a Thursday, and then every day he would say, hey, do you have any. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: Time tomorrow or you think you could fit me in your schedule. 00:33:05 Speaker 4: We were doing it all on FaceTime so that I would find space or I'd give him my lunch hour and then he'd say, hey, do you think you have time tomorrow? This one on for months, and months and months. I mean he did six sometimes seven lessons a week for months and months and months. I mean he worked so hard. Ariana too, very very hard. So when you think about it, you know, Ariana was in the days of YouTube. She was doing that television series on Nickelodeon, but she would do on Friday nights, she would sing a live song was I forgot what they called it, something like Friday Night Live or whatever, and she would sing a live song and people were going crazy because she had such a great voice. So, you know, she started getting well known from that, as well as the TV show Sean on Vine. There's been, you know, all sorts of things along the way that have helped people. Now it's TikTok, and I don't know what it'll be next, that there will be something else. 00:33:55 Speaker 2: We just know that. I think it's the people. 00:33:57 Speaker 4: Who work the hardest and are the most talented who have the staying powers. 00:34:02 Speaker 2: So there's always going to be some who are. 00:34:03 Speaker 4: Genuinely talented, some who genuinely they probably would have broken through with anything that they did, but now they happen to have this helpful tool. 00:34:13 Speaker 2: I look at it like a helpful tool. 00:34:15 Speaker 4: But the ones who work the hardest and have the most talent, and they're the ones who are going to rise to the top. There's going to be some people who get a deal or a record deal or whatever out of it, but we might not hear of them in a year from now if they don't work hard, if they don't really have. 00:34:31 Speaker 2: Any talent, or they don't take it seriously. And that's the whole thing. 00:34:34 Speaker 4: Taking it seriously and not just going oh wow, look at that was easy, you know, because it doesn't work that way. 00:34:40 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. 00:34:41 Speaker 2: You drift. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: But I have to say, like, you know, I love live music, always have song live for years, But so I like when I hear a real singer singer, I just I'm blown away by anyone that can just sing live. But one thing I think is amazing is people who aren't in a sarily singers who go outside their comfort zone and do a musical role. I mean, I thought Andrew Garfield in TikTok Boom was incredible. I don't know if he's classically a singer. I actually didn't take a dive on that, but he did so incredibly well and he sounded so much like him. I was completely blown away by that and people going through and you and I have talked about this before, but you people going through Chicago, and I know you're working with Pam Anderson. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah, okay, No, you're working with Pam. And I met Pam years ago through Jenny McCarthy and she was lovely. And you know, it's funny I watched you. Did you watch the Pam and Tommy thing at all? 00:35:48 Speaker 4: No? I didn't watch it because, you know, if you to know Pam is to know she's one of the sweetest, kindest people. She does so many great things in her life, with her animal activism. 00:36:01 Speaker 2: Just the way she treats my dog. 00:36:03 Speaker 4: She's such a kind person that I just didn't want to watch anything that might, I don't know, cloud or make me upset, like, oh no, that's not who she really is. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: She's really great. So no, I didn't watch it. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: So I try to watch a little bit of everything, just sure. 00:36:22 Speaker 1: You know. 00:36:22 Speaker 2: See, if I didn't know her, I would have watched it in a minute. 00:36:25 Speaker 3: And I'm and I remember it from back in the day, right, it was a huge big deal. I watched like like three episodes, I think, and then I stopped because it was a little too much with They had a whole thing about Tommy's penis talking to his penis, and I just I couldn't. But I will tell you that she really did come across to me as very sweet and lovely, and that's all I've ever heard about her is very very nice things. And I feel so there's just a piece of me, like as a mother, if she were my child. I feel so bad that she's being exploited by this whole thing. I don't know how she feels about it, but I can't imagine she feels great about it. So what I love for her is she is taking that moment that has been handed to her that she didn't ask for, and she's doing something fabulous and she is going to perform in Chicago. And I did read an article recently with her where she was saying, I feel like I've been preparing for this role my whole life. And I thought that was so funny and I thought good for her. So what is it like working with her who is not a singer, a trained singer, that's not been her career, and so they offered her this part. You know, people want to get people in seats and sell tickets, and I think this was a phenomenal idea. Tell me about all that. 00:37:50 Speaker 2: Well, you know the thing about that role Roxy Heart in the musical Chicago on Broadway, there is so much. 00:37:57 Speaker 4: Room for gearing it or tailoring it, tailoring it around the person doing it. 00:38:05 Speaker 2: So they changed the keys. 00:38:07 Speaker 4: They've had so many different Roxyes and Velma's and Billy Flynn's, and so they are used to if

someone has a specific talent. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: Pam has a talent which I don't think I'm supposed to talk about, but which people will be really surprised, which is going to be incorporated, which was my idea by the way, but anyway, it's going to be incorporated in there. 00:38:25 Speaker 4: So I don't think any other Roxy has done something that she's going to do. It's just going to be one moment in the show. But they tailor it so if someone has a great singing voice, then they sort of make it. They work around that to really highlight their voice. If someone else has more of acting, shops and really funny, then they tail it around that. 00:38:46 Speaker 2: So Pam is so entertaining. 00:38:48 Speaker 4: I mean, she really understands that character, and I think that's why she said, I've been preparing it for my whole life, because you know, Roxy has had her ups and downs and been misunderstood and talked about. 00:39:00 Speaker 2: And written about and all of that kind of thing. And so that's Pam. I made Pam's whole life. 00:39:06 Speaker 4: She's sort of been, you know, in the public eye, and people view her a certain way because of the way she looks, but you know, she didn't look that way. You wouldn't think of it that way because her personality doesn't really come through as the blonde bombshell. It comes through as a really kind, sweet person. So anyway, she's so funny. And when I first started where I actually we dabbled with it a few years ago and it did work out. She actually I worked with her, I even put her on film, and we talked about a few years ago. It didn't work out with scheduling or whatever, and so I already knew when she was capable of So when we started at this time, the first thing that hit me again was, oh my god, she's so personal. She has so much charisma, and she's so funny. 00:39:49 Speaker 2: You know. 00:39:49 Speaker 4: One of the lines is when Roxy's going, They're gonna know my eyes, my hair, my boobs, my nose, whatever. 00:39:56 Speaker 2: It's something like that. I just went blank. 00:39:58 Speaker 4: But when she does, it's so funny because she gets it that that is her. 00:40:04 Speaker 2: Everybody does know. 00:40:05 Speaker 4: All those things because they've seen a million shots or videos or films on her. The way she looks, she's been so scrutinized, so when she sings that, So when she does it, she brings so much fun and personality to it. So I think the audiences are going to love her because she has so much personality, and she's going into it like she's gonna have a lot of fun. 00:40:26 Speaker 2: She said. 00:40:26 Speaker 4: I'm so excited. She said, it's a smaller theater, it's intimate. I get to read, I get to interact with the audience at points, and so she's really looking forward to having it be a fun experience. 00:40:38 Speaker 3: I just love that. And I think the other thing that people don't realize because you know, when you see like we were talking about rene Es Elwegger singing, or you know, all these actors, most performers kind of do a little bit of everything right right. We've all been kind of trained to do a little bit of everything right right. 00:40:58 Speaker 1: This is Heather new Bros. 00:41:00 Speaker 3: World Online shipping isn't slowing down anytime soon. Is your business ready to keep up the pace? With ship Station, you'll never worry about shipping again. Make the switch to a solution that handles all of your shipping needs quickly, affordably, and painlessly. Look, I don't care what you're doing. Are you going Etsy? Are you selling on eBay? Are you you know? Like just you have a little website. 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Just go to shipstation dot com, click on the microphone at the top of the page and type in Heather ship Station, Make ship happen. 00:42:22 Speaker 1: Now back to Heather d Bro's world. 00:42:28 Speaker 3: So tell me who would Who's like? Is there someone out there that you would just love to work with that you have not worked with yet? You've worked with almost everyone. I mean, I don't know if there's anyone left on the list. 00:42:40 Speaker 2: No, there, you know there's people. 00:42:42 Speaker 4: But I the reason I always hesitate to answer that question is I don't want to say a name of someone and maybe they are working with a vocal coach, and then it looks like I'm trying to steal them away. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: And so I never want. 00:42:55 Speaker 4: To be perceived as that person because I really honor that relationship. But if someone is working with someone and they're happy with that person, I don't want to touch that relationship because I know how sacred it is not just to the artist, but to the teacher themselves, because it is You're it's such an intimate relationship. You really get to know these people well, you're seeing them one on one like you and I, I mean, even though I hadn't seen you in all those years. 00:43:21 Speaker 2: The minute we saw each other, it wasn't like any time by. 00:43:24 Speaker 4: The only big change was your name, yeah, which really threw me off. 00:43:30 Speaker 2: I was like, but wait a minute. 00:43:31 Speaker 4: She's Heather Page Camp for the Heather Page Camp Orchestra. That's who she really is. Like, no, No, she's

Heather to Grow. But so for me, like I said, it's such a sacred and cherished relationship that I never actually named people because I just wouldn't want it to be perceived. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: Oh, he's going after so and so, right. 00:43:53 Speaker 3: Which you would that makes such just the best guy I know. But you know, so, I was at a party this past weekend and I don't know, I don't think. I don't know if she announced it, so I can't say who it is. But this there were so many people from so many different reality shows randomly at this birthday party. Was hilarious. I think we all represented eight different shows. Wow, very very funny. But we all have these mutual friends and they were all it was very very fun It was really great. But one of the gals just had surgery for vocal nodes. 00:44:20 Speaker 2: Oh, and so. 00:44:21 Speaker 3: She was supposed to be on vocal rest and and so she was not really talking at the party and typing things on her phone. How do we avoid And she's not a singer, by the way she but she speaks for a living, and so it's a big deal. I speak for a living. I'm always really worried. I have got like that low ras b voice and all that. How do we avoid that, whether we're speaking, singing, anything. 00:44:46 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of things, you know. 00:44:47 Speaker 4: One is following the acid reflux diet, so you're not eating food or drinking beverages that are going to cause acid reflux, which some of the examples would be very spicy foods, carbonated alcohol, fried and fatty foods, dairy, you know, all of those things you want to avoid, especially when you're going to be using your voice a lot and smoking. Of course you don't want to do that. So it would be what you eat, what you drink. Getting enough sleep so your voice has time to rest your body. That's when it repairs itself when you're sleeping. Staying hydrated is a huge thing. If you're in sleeping in air conditioning because it's not outside, or heat because it's cold outside, then you want to sleep with some humidification, some moisture in the air so you don't wake up because both heat and air conditioning dry out the air, so you don't want to wake up feeling parched and dry. That can make you feel hoarse and make you sound horse right there. 00:45:46 Speaker 2: Then using a personal steamer. 00:45:48 Speaker 4: I always suggest that if you're going to be doing a lot of talking that day, oh, I usually have one near me. There's a demonstrator, you know, just so you're breathing in some moisture, direct hydration first thing in the morning. That's always to do. Then warming up your voice, especially if you're singing, but even if you're speaking. I always tell people if they're going to do a lot of interviews, you know, if they're promoting a movie or an album, they could be talking seven eight nine hours in a world, so I say, warm up your voice. I give them speaking exercises to do. I remind them to support their speaking voice as they're talking,

to do some warm up exercises for their speaking voice. All of that so that they're ready so they're not just hitting their voice. 00:46:29 Speaker 2: And then remind them throughout the. 00:46:31 Speaker 4: Day stay hydrated, maybe doing some throat coot which is soothing your voice. There's a bunch of different products they could use, and if you do all of those things, you really will safeguard yourself against having a problem. One of the biggest things I would say, if it's a singer who's lost their voice, quite often it's going to rehearsal, they don't hear themselves well, and it's if they're using inner monitors. I say, you've got to make sure the engineer or the sound person, whoever's you know, dealing with your sound makes it so that you can hear yourself well, so you're not singing too loud pushing. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:47:05 Speaker 4: Now, your friend might have even just been at a couple parties where she or he were talking over loud music or in a crowd of people. 00:47:14 Speaker 1: You know. 00:47:14 Speaker 4: I was at a party once and I can't name the person, probably because they'd have a fit, but it was a huge celebrity driven party. I was probably, out of three hundred people, the only non celebrity there, and the people at my table were just incredible. But the music was so loud people had a shout to be heard, and so I was like, oh, this is hard. 00:47:34 Speaker 2: So I went over to DJ and I said, could you just turn it down a little? 00:47:38 Speaker 4: People are trying to talk and he just completely ignored it, you know, he said, no, this is a party, and blah blah blah. So there was a speaker right near our table, so I just kind of walked over and when no one was looking, I kind of scanned around. I took my foot and I kicked the wire that went into the speaker out of the speaker. Then I ground it into the ground so that they couldn't just easily I'll get back in. Nobody even noticed. But what happened is when I went back down, sat down at our table that was near the speaker, everybody could talk to each other, you know. And but those parties, people the next day wake up and they go, oh my god, I'm coorse. I lost my voice from that party, especially if you're drinking alcohol, and then they think, oh, I'm going to have some water, but it's carbonated, So now you have the carbonation or too much caffeine that can create acid reflex. So you just have to think about all of those things and how they're. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: Going to affect you. 00:48:31 Speaker 3: Okay. Advice for parents with talented children. 00:48:36 Speaker 4: Oh boy, Well, the first thing is does the child really want to do it? 00:48:43 Speaker 2: And sometimes that's a tricky. 00:48:46 Speaker 4: Thing to figure out because some kids want to, but they're very shy or they're very fearful. And I talk a lot about several of the people on my podcast, Kamila cabo Ah. 00:48:57 Speaker 2: Who's the other one. Vanessa Hutchins was. 00:48:59 Speaker 4: A

very shy child, so she talks about that how shy she was, but the musical theater kind of brought made her be able to get above it, sale above it. Camilla especially was so nervous her parents when she said she wanted an audition for the girl Group. 00:49:15 Speaker 2: They were like, you can't. 00:49:16 Speaker 4: Even see in front of your grandmother, how are you gonna like sing? But she had heard Oprah say, if you can walk through your fear, the six seconds it takes to do that could change the course of your life, and so she said she still thinks of that when she does a big show like an award show, sings at the Grammys. She just thinks, walking out on that stage, I might have some stage right, but I just got to walk through it those six or seven seconds that can change the course of my life and or not let it stop me. 00:49:44 Speaker 2: I just have to walk through it. 00:49:45 Speaker 4: So that's the first thing determining if the child really wants to do it, or if they're just being held back by fear. The second thing is get them training. If they really want to do it, then find teachers and coaches who really know the business, who have first hand knowledge and experience of the business. Because there's some teachers who are well intentioned, but if they don't really know the business, you don't really know what happens to a. 00:50:11 Speaker 2: Person when their career takes off. 00:50:13 Speaker 4: You know, I always say to people, everyone just thinks, oh, so and so singing. Let's say at Staple Center tonight, So they're singing for two hours, so they can do anything. 00:50:21 Speaker 2: They want all day, rest, kick their feed up, whatever. No, they might have to get. 00:50:25 Speaker 4: Up at four in the morning to do an early morning television show, so there's hair, makeup, sound check, blocking, then performing. Then maybe they have to do a couple of radio interviews, then maybe a pop up meet and greet, then another interview, then the sound check, the rehearsal. They're going the whole day, so by the time they get on stage. 00:50:45 Speaker 2: They might have been using their voice for eight or ten hours already. 00:50:48 Speaker 4: You know, So you have to have teachers who really understand that and what goes into having a career because it's a lot, it's a lot of work, and to instill really good work habits and work ethic those kids so they really understand if you really want to do this, you have to work really hard and do your best at all times. You have to be your best because, as the famous musical producer David Foster used to say, while you're not working, someone else is. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: You know, it's so true. I think part of the problem is and you know, like I see it in my kids or their friends and everything. You know, I think because they've grown up in this in this age of everyone gets a trophy, which I can't stand. You know, we didn't raise our children like that, and they get that. But but because it all feels that way, and the you know, the the accessibility of TikTok and you know how famous people get so easily with all of these different streamings. I mean, it's not like back in the day we have three networks, no social media. I mean it was like it was pretty binary back then. Now the opportunities are sort of limitless, which makes them all feel like everyone gets a trophy. Anyone can be famous, anyone could do this now, you've worked with my daughter Max before, for she's a really talented singer. 00:52:03 Speaker 1: But that. 00:52:05 Speaker 3: She that's not her passion in life. And I've said that to it. I known, like my mom will be like, oh my god, she's so talented, Like why isn't she pursuing this? I go because she doesn't want it. 00:52:17 Speaker 1: Not. 00:52:17 Speaker 3: You can't push someone into doing something, especially in this business with how difficult it is, how hard do you have to work, and the rejection factor alone, Oh. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: The rejection factor is so huge. The amount of people who make as the Top is so small. 00:52:34 Speaker 4: But I always say, if the person loves it, if they are just passionate about it, then they're going. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: To enjoy the process of it. 00:52:43 Speaker 4: You know, they're going to enjoy getting ready for the audition, or they're going to enjoy the rehearsals, or you know, whether they're singing at the forum or they're singing at some you know, community theater, they're going to enjoy that because they love it and they're getting to do what they love doing. So if that is their passion, then I say, I'm there to back you up and support you. 00:53:05 Speaker 2: But if it's not their passion, then yeah, they really should do it. 00:53:08 Speaker 4: And you know your daughter Max. From what little I know of her, she's very intelligent, she seems very sensible, she's very sweet. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: I loved working with her. 00:53:16 Speaker 4: But I feel like she's got a good head on her shoulders, and I feel like when she really knows what she's going to be passionate about. 00:53:25 Speaker 2: She'll go full out onto it. 00:53:27 Speaker 4: But I think it was great that she did work at it because it shows you by actually doing something, you learn what you really want to do and maybe what you don't want to do. I have an associate teacher, Ivan, whose son actually was young Tarzan on Broadway and the musical, and he did it and Broadway and he was very young. And when he finished, Ivan said, okay, what shall we you know, let's talk about what. 00:53:51 Speaker 2: You're going to audition for next And his son said, oh, I don't want to do it anymore. And he went, but I thought you had a good time. 00:53:57 Speaker 4: He said, oh I did, Dad, it was the best time on my own. He said, well, why don't you want to do it anymore? He said, no, I did it. 00:54:03 Speaker 2: I'm not interested anymore. But I was like, how great to know or have that sense. Okay, I tried it. 00:54:10

Speaker 4: I experienced it, but I don't have to keep doing it. The people I think who should pursue are the people who just something is driving them inside and they have to do it, you know, and then they can't be discouraged. 00:54:25 Speaker 1: You're listening to Heather Dubro's World, all right. 00:54:31 Speaker 3: I know you guys have seen me on the show talk about edibles. Have you heard me talk about Delta eight Because it's awesome. It's kind of like THCHD light is, so I call it Delta ATCHD is a new cannabinoid that is sweeping the hemp and health and wellness market. Cbdx dot com sells Delta eight products which feel just like cannabis. This is legal, by the way, per twenty eighteen farm bill that Congress passed. There are weight products, actual flower we used to call it gummies, even concentrates, and they ship to thirty nine states. Use this code for twenty percent off your first order, Heather, that's your code HTA THDR orders ship within twenty four hours. 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I think it's like a really important moment, and I think, in some ways more important than like I think back to shows I did in high school. I think back to more than you know, like television shows that I started, you know, like as being significant in my development. 00:56:38 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you're absolutely right, and you know it's funny too what you said about if they have talent or if they have the desire to do it, that they will end up doing it. 00:56:48 Speaker 2: You know, one of the people I interviewed on my podcast Stephanie Beatrice. 00:56:52 Speaker 4: She is the star of Encanto, you know, the new animated musical. 00:56:57 Speaker 2: She plays Mirabelle. 00:56:58 Speaker 4: And you know that musical has gone so easy successful. I mean on TikTok on the Billboard charts, it's like one of the best selling albums on the Billboard charts. It was number eight for over eight weeks. No'm gond saying over eight weeks. I think only two other albums in the last five years did that. Now it's probably more I'm talking about statistics from a month ago. It's been songs have been number one. It was on the Oscars. You know, it's one Oscars. So anyway, Stephanie, when she was young, and I think it was junior high school, she had a teacher who actually said, you don't really sing that well, I'm not going to put you inquire. And you know, the thing is is that she went on to do in the Heights and then went on to do in Conto, and it didn't stop her because she went on to become an actress, and then she walked through her fear she did when we first met. She really was afraid of auditioning and kept saying, I'm not really a singer. 00:57:55 Speaker 2: I'm not really a singer. I didn't realize it was because of that teacher until we actually talked about it on the PODCAS. 00:58:00 Speaker 4: But the truth is that sometimes when you're young, I think some teachers, like a choir teacher, might and I don't like this, but they might go, well, these kids are really talented. 00:58:12 Speaker 2: I'm going to put them in the choir because I don't have to work very hard. They have a good ear, they're good. Then there's the kids who really shouldn't be and those kids, I think you should be honest and say why don't you pursue something else? But I think there's yeah, but exactly. 00:58:25 Speaker 4: But there's a group of kids in the middle that just need some work and encouragement. And I think sometimes some of those teachers are lazy and don't want to put in the work. She probably was in that category, just needed some finessing, some work. But here she is now in the most successful animated musical, and but she didn't let it stop her. 00:58:44 Speaker 2: And I think that goes to the. 00:58:46 Speaker 4: Core of her being a performer and being an actor and loving what she did, so she just kept doing it even though she was told, well, you're really not that good, Chris. 00:58:57 Speaker 2: I'd like to find that teacher ring your neck. 00:59:00 Speaker 3: And I also think another good take home messages. It's actually never too late. I remember. I remember I met Rita Wilson years ago. I don't know if you remember this, but I sang with Rashida Jones. We were doing this charity thing, oh I do, and it was two girls. It was called what A Pairs for Breast Cancer? Yes, exactly, So Rashida and I sang together because we had just done a movie together and Rita. I can't remember who Rida sang with, but anyway, she was there and she was lovely. And then I ran into her later a few years later, and it was right as she was launching her first album. Okay, so I don't know, this could have been ten years ago, and so I ran into her and she was telling me, oh, well, you know what, I've always wanted to professionally sing, and this could have been fifteen years ago actually, and I coming out with an album and I was like, that's fantastic, and she was being like self deprecating, like is it, but look at her now, my gosh, she's got this fantastic musical career. She's singing at

the opry, she's everywhere. I've always found that every time I see her doing something, I've always found it to be very inspirational, because, as you know, like I always thought I was going to start on Broadway. That's where I was headed, and you know, took a left turn and ended up in La and doing all these other things. But I still someday hope to get there, so with your help, of course. 01:00:19 Speaker 2: And I hope to help you get there. Yeah. 01:00:22 Speaker 4: Well, you know, Rita is a very good friend of mine. I've known her for years and years, and you. 01:00:28 Speaker 2: Know, she started out when she was very young. 01:00:30 Speaker 4: She was a singer and a songwriter, and then she took kind of a turn doing television shows and movies, and then of course got married and have children, and you know, the man she married was quite busy himself. 01:00:43 Speaker 2: So they had a big life. 01:00:45 Speaker 4: And I know I feel the same way as you when I see her doing these things. 01:00:49 Speaker 2: I get so happy because she loves it so much. It's you can see it. 01:00:55 Speaker 4: Just in a picture of her on stage, you can see how much fun she's at and how much she's enjoying it, you know, I mean, she just loves what she's doing. 01:01:05 Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It is so Yeah, you can do it at any time. 01:01:09 Speaker 4: And that's the case also of the passion never left her, the desire never left her, and she did it when it was right. 01:01:15 Speaker 2: For her to do. 01:01:17 Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's amazing. You're amazing. I adore you. I thank you so much for being here. Oh and I hope to see you in person. 01:01:27 Speaker 2: Soon, Yes, I hope so. 01:01:29 Speaker 4: And we do have to work on that goal of going to Broadways. I that'll be a really big day for us to celebrate. 01:01:37 Speaker 3: Yes, it will, and we're going to do that. Okay, so tell everyone how to find you on social media? How to find the podcast? 01:01:43 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I was never on social media, because. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: Now I was hoping you got something. 01:01:48 Speaker 4: I had an Instagram that someone put up just as a placeholder. I don't even know what the code is or whatever password, so that just sits there and I can't even get into it. So the podcast company said you have to do something, So I started an Instagram called Eric Vitro finally, so it's my name, Eric Vitro v E t ro O, not I, but E Vitro v e tare Oh finally, because I thought, well, what other way, because everybody said to me, oh my god, finally, finally. And it's been kind of fun, you know, it's been Some of my students have done funny things on it, and I. 01:02:24 Speaker 2: Did one speaking of Pam Anderson. 01:02:26 Speaker 4: We did a little one about her doing Chicago and my dog makes the little appearances and it's really fun to do. And then but for people listening, I really would love them to listen to the backstage past with Eric Vitro. It's on anything, Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts, you can and. 01:02:43 Speaker 3: It's really fantastic. You have the best stories. Thanks greatest guy. I thank you against so much for being here. I adore you and I will be calling you soon. 01:02:51 Speaker 4: All right, Well, I adore you and thank you for having me. I love doing this. This is really fun. 01:02:58 Speaker 1: This is Heather, you bro's here's Heather. 01:03:04 Speaker 3: That was great. I loved him being here. Thank you guys so much for being here. We may have a few repeat shows in the next couple weeks because I'm traveling so much, but stay tuned. I'll post them and watch out for my Instagram to see when I'm going to ask those questions so that you guys can send me all your comments and questions about the season so I can make sure I answer them all. If you have a second, please go to iTunes, leave us a five star review and say what you love about Heathery Do Brow's World and we will see you guys next week. Thank you so much for listening to HEATHERD Bro's World. Download new episodes every Thursday and Friday on podcast one. The podcast one app ors Apple Podcasts, and please make sure to subscribe to the show and leave a lovely five star rating. Go to Apple Podcasts and say how much you love Heathery Do Bro's World. See you next week. Geico asks how would you love a chance to save money on insurance? Well, of course you would, and when it comes to great rates on insurance, Geico can help like with insurance for your car, truck, motorcycle, boat, and RV. Even help with homeowners or renters coverage. Plus add an easy to use mobile app available twenty four hour roadside assistance and more and Geico is an easy choice. Switch today and see all the ways you could save. It's easy. Simply go to geico dot com or contact your local agent today