Fullständig transkription av Chiefs Get Josh Downs: Does It Fix the Wide Receiver Problem at 6-2?

the field later, just bring in talent. 03:45.565 --> 03:46.586 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me pull this up real quick. 03:46.686 --> 03:49.347 [SPEAKER_01]: The wide receiver room at separation scores. 03:49.667 --> 03:52.789 [SPEAKER_01]: So average separation score, I call ass. 03:53.170 --> 03:54.330 [SPEAKER_01]: It is the ass score. 03:54.811 --> 03:56.411 [SPEAKER_01]: The jets have the most ass. 03:57.112 --> 04:01.434 [SPEAKER_01]: Most average separation score from their wide receivers at 0.147. 04:01.815 --> 04:06.517 [SPEAKER_01]: Ravens number two, 0.133, Vikings at 0.083. 04:06.898 --> 04:09.139 [SPEAKER_01]: So keep those numbers in perspective here, right? 04:09.179 --> 04:10.260 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the top three. 04:11.326 --> 04:19.572 [SPEAKER_01]: The average ass, average separation score in the NFL is 0.054, 0.054. 04:20.893 --> 04:25.616 [SPEAKER_01]: The chiefs, not surprisingly or last in the NFL, want to take a gander, I guess, at where they're at. 04:26.277 --> 04:27.057 [SPEAKER_01]: I know this chart. 04:27.137 --> 04:29.679 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe it's 0.003, 0.009. 04:29.859 --> 04:34.183 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, sorry, didn't mean to cut them short. 04:34.243 --> 04:35.023 [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't mean to cut them short. 04:35.063 --> 04:37.405 [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it was, I knew it was 30 second. 04:37.863 --> 04:41.204 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's where the chiefs have been at this year. 04:41.424 --> 04:47.167 [SPEAKER_01]: They have been 0.009 dead last in average separation score. 04:47.187 --> 04:49.268 [SPEAKER_01]: They've been asked at getting asked. 04:50.108 --> 04:52.429 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the league average is 0.054. 04:52.489 --> 04:54.670 [SPEAKER_01]: The judge's number one at 0.147. 04:54.750 --> 04:56.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Omar Cooper Jr's been outstanding. 04:56.771 --> 04:58.071 [SPEAKER_01]: People over thought that draft pick. 04:58.731 --> 04:59.772 [SPEAKER_01]: The cults, on the other hand, 05:01.341 --> 05:03.423 [SPEAKER_01]: 0.071, you know who's a big part of that? 05:03.984 --> 05:06.806 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Downs, Alec Pierce has been injured. 05:06.986 --> 05:09.749 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been the Josh Downs show to an extent as far as what he does. 05:10.049 --> 05:12.051 [SPEAKER_01]: The issue is they've had no quarterback play. 05:12.772 --> 05:15.414 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like the Vikings last night on Monday, football. 05:15.835 --> 05:20.419 [SPEAKER_01]: Doods are running free down the field, yet the quarterback can not hit them. 05:20.759 --> 05:24.883 [SPEAKER_01]: So the chiefs who have zero, the worst separation in the entire NFL, 05:25.083 --> 05:29.586 [SPEAKER_01]: By quite frankly, a fairly wide margin, get a guy who can separate. 05:29.766 --> 05:31.187 [SPEAKER_01]: I know size is a concern. 05:31.587 --> 05:35.050 [SPEAKER_01]: I know people talk about the rental and the compensation, all of that. 05:35.410 --> 05:38.472 [SPEAKER_01]: But did the chiefs get better in 26-27? 05:38.792 --> 05:40.393 [SPEAKER_01]: The answer is yes. 05:40.693 --> 05:42.855 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the final year of Josh Downs contract. 05:43.055 --> 05:44.576 [SPEAKER_01]: we can get to that a little later on. 05:44.856 --> 05:47.977 [SPEAKER_01]: But I want to keep talking about the positives of what he brings to this chief's team. 05:48.257 --> 05:52.018 [SPEAKER_01]: With worthy in the hamstring injury, I thought the price was going to be even higher. 05:52.218 --> 05:54.419 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the chief's were between a rock and a hard place. 05:54.719 --> 06:01.041 [SPEAKER_01]: And somehow, the rock himself came out and said, hey, let's take this Kevin Hart type guy and put him on our side. 06:01.561 --> 06:01.922 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 06:02.002 --> 06:03.702 [SPEAKER_01]: I tried making a reference because he's small. 06:03.742 --> 06:04.322 [SPEAKER_01]: He is 59171. 06:04.442 --> 06:04.743 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:06.697 --> 06:13.699 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, if there are a bunch of chiefs fans who have been clamoring for the chiefs to get a big body outside wide receiver, that's not Josh Downs. 06:13.819 --> 06:17.300 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I do think you're, I know you're, we're kind of splitting it up here. 06:17.380 --> 06:26.642 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the price is a mandatory part of the analysis, because if price didn't matter, you'd give up a first rounder for Brian Thomas Jr. in the Jags would have done that today, I believe, right? 06:27.142 --> 06:44.814 [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to deal with whatever budget you're tied to here, but all that to say, Josh Downs is immediately, I think the best separator on this chief's offense right now, and I really, I don't feel in need to be super duper picky about where that separation is coming. 06:45.194 --> 06:54.040 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're suddenly in a position now, where it's 3rd and 6, and you're about to get man coverage, Josh Downs gives you a much better chance of moving the chains in that instance. 06:54.860 --> 06:59.162 [SPEAKER_02]: And look again, I think it's still worth noting, and I don't get in towards the price of it all again. 06:59.802 --> 07:02.803 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand that this is not, and you should everyone should understand. 07:03.063 --> 07:05.324 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not the chiefs negotiating from a place of strength. 07:05.464 --> 07:10.346 [SPEAKER_02]: This is them from a place of desperation at wide receiver looking around and saying, okay, well, 07:10.706 --> 07:14.850 [SPEAKER_02]: How much Jalen Royals and Andrew Armstrong do we want to play the rest of this season? 07:14.870 --> 07:17.813 [SPEAKER_02]: How much Justin Watson do you want to play the rest of this season? 07:18.393 --> 07:22.817 [SPEAKER_02]: Or can we get more for Patrick Mahomes to where it's not total desperation back there? 07:22.897 --> 07:25.560 [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, the tackle group is still deeply concerning. 07:25.860 --> 07:28.863 [SPEAKER_02]: No, the wide receivers are

still pretty thin in a lot of ways. 07:29.263 --> 07:31.765 [SPEAKER_02]: But this is a massive improvement. 07:31.946 --> 07:32.946 [SPEAKER_02]: And if not, 07:33.727 --> 07:44.070 [SPEAKER_02]: If not number one, he is, I think the number two wide receiver on this team instantaneously, and he's, I know you guys could ask the question of like, so what number of weapon is he in the chief's offense? 07:44.610 --> 07:47.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, depends on Kenneth Walker, Rashie Rice. 07:47.991 --> 07:56.633 [SPEAKER_02]: Mom's going to be looking to Travis Kelsey until Travis Kelsey is simply in the, in the, in the booth instead of on the field, but regardless, I think this is an offense that has got 07:56.813 --> 08:01.036 [SPEAKER_02]: clearly needed more weapons and Josh Jones is going to be a weapon for the rest of this year. 08:01.316 --> 08:06.340 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be very curious to see how much he plays and how soon he plays, but that's also kind of a secondary conversation. 08:06.715 --> 08:08.996 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the floor has drastically raised. 08:09.417 --> 08:13.119 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the floor to me has drastically raised. 08:13.679 --> 08:17.382 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is not a guy who's a 1,200 yard wide receiver by any means. 08:17.442 --> 08:20.363 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not a guy who is Jamar Chase out there. 08:20.744 --> 08:26.587 [SPEAKER_01]: But this is a guy, as you mentioned, 35, where you look in, well, now it's not just Travis Kelsey. 08:26.988 --> 08:31.550 [SPEAKER_01]: Now it is Travis Kelsey, Josh Downs, and then a smattering of Rishi Rice. 08:31.811 --> 08:33.812 [SPEAKER_01]: And I do want to point out, yet again, 08:36.610 --> 08:39.832 [SPEAKER_01]: he had bad quarterback play with the cults, right? 08:40.352 --> 08:44.794 [SPEAKER_01]: But the separation that we went through is clearly there. 08:45.594 --> 08:47.875 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Chiefs wide receivers don't get separation. 08:47.895 --> 08:51.737 [SPEAKER_01]: So why do you think that the average depth of target for Patrick has been so low? 08:52.538 --> 08:54.038 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're forced to do here. 08:55.099 --> 09:01.482 [SPEAKER_01]: This to me is a really good move in a student move, a very chiefs move, 09:02.845 --> 09:06.668 [SPEAKER_01]: And I do think there has to be a little tempering of expectations. 09:06.708 --> 09:11.992 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't expect him to come in and be a eight catches, hundred yards, that's just not his traditional. 09:12.172 --> 09:13.553 [SPEAKER_01]: Will he have a game like that? 09:13.873 --> 09:14.573 [SPEAKER_01]: It probably will. 09:15.334 --> 09:18.356 [SPEAKER_01]: But will he come in and be a consistent dude like that? 09:18.456 --> 09:18.977 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not. 09:19.778 --> 09:25.563 [SPEAKER_01]: But the chiefs needed someone with Taikuan out until probably the postseason even and that's like best case scenario. 09:26.043 --> 09:31.788 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't still know with Xavier Worth, or where they will hear Andy Reed talk tomorrow, maybe get a little update in that regard. 09:32.469 --> 09:40.176 [SPEAKER_01]: But as Saul would as Rishi Rice has been, and I do think he makes his offense look a lot better because of what he can do with the yacability on the short yards, take it for eight, right? 09:40.396 --> 09:43.859 [SPEAKER_01]: Those little screen passes to Rishi, all of a sudden it's eight yards, nice to see. 09:45.276 --> 09:50.878 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Downs gets you a little more wiggle, a little more room, a little more separation as mess routes where dudes aren't doing anything. 09:51.418 --> 09:54.358 [SPEAKER_01]: Well now no longer is jail and royals on the field. 09:54.899 --> 09:57.339 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that's going to be Josh Downs, right? 09:57.999 --> 10:07.082 [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see obviously blocking situations, Josh Downs probably off the field, but I don't want 5-9-1-71 in there, but he is much tougher than his size indicates. 10:07.662 --> 10:14.068 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, like he is a much more physical receiver than his size will list at 5 9171. 10:14.429 --> 10:21.035 [SPEAKER_01]: He played 17 games as a rookie, 14 games as a second year while, and those 14 games went for 800 and three yards and five touchdowns. 10:21.576 --> 10:25.640 [SPEAKER_01]: Last year, 16 games, then this year, he's played in an all nine. 10:25.940 --> 10:28.142 [SPEAKER_01]: So far, this would be funny if you ended up playing in what, 18 games? 10:30.032 --> 10:31.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was he not he hasn't had the by week. 10:31.633 --> 10:58.032 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll be Kirk Cousins might do that a couple other guys think Jesse Bates is one of those guys We might have a few 18 game players this year and to the point specifically on where she writes this there's there are a few explanations for this I suppose I don't think this is leading to them trading Josh for Josh downs, but I thought it was really strange At least really interesting that where she writes played 38 snaps against the jet that's 58% now there are a few at the end of the game with just in the fields and Jade not we're talking about 10:58.672 --> 11:01.554 [SPEAKER_02]: four or five snaps with those guys out there. 11:01.734 --> 11:17.083 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested to see maybe that's just managing where she writes, still working back from his own hamstring and knee issues, trying to keep him as fresh as possible or just whatever the personnel packages for whatever reason had him off the field and instances where Andrew Armstrong and Jalen Royals were on the field 11:23.737 --> 11:26.020 [SPEAKER_02]: I am well owned at what they gave up. 11:26.340 --> 11:27.361 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not against it. 11:27.542 --> 11:28.122 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't hate it. 11:28.383 --> 11:34.570 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that she's got a steel, but I think they gave up a real cost that clearly no other team was willing to be. 11:34.590 --> 11:37.553

[SPEAKER_02]: They paid the highest price of anybody in the market for wider receivers. 11:38.114 --> 11:41.378 [SPEAKER_02]: And they did that because their wider receivers situation has been really bleak. 11:43.488 --> 11:45.810 [SPEAKER_02]: The receiver situation has been so bleak. 11:45.830 --> 11:49.992 [SPEAKER_02]: The depth chart is so thin that it's very hard for me to be super worked up. 11:50.232 --> 11:53.895 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I think they probably did start at one point with their site set a little higher. 11:54.255 --> 11:55.536 [SPEAKER_02]: Trying for Brian Thomas Jr. 11:55.636 --> 12:00.619 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing Brett Beach called Minnesota and said, hey, so you guys aren't really interested in trading Justin Jefferson, right? 12:00.639 --> 12:01.240 [SPEAKER_02]: And they said no. 12:02.120 --> 12:07.544 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that whenever you realize, okay, well, we have very, very, very limited options. 12:07.564 --> 12:10.026 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe both cults, maybe Josh Downs or Keenan Allen. 12:10.507 --> 12:19.153 [SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe you sign Tyree Kill in a few weeks, depending on where his health ends up being, and what his, you know, playable status is. 12:20.270 --> 12:30.966 [SPEAKER_02]: That's at least this is a step that I think they almost had to make today given the fact that Jalen Royals and Andrew Armstrong combined for 43 snaps against the jets. 12:31.286 --> 12:31.466 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:31.887 --> 12:36.053 [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's not helping an offense that has issues on the offensive line in particular. 12:36.293 --> 12:37.955 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the floor has been drastically raised. 12:38.175 --> 12:41.759 [SPEAKER_01]: I think for me, this was the biggest name we were going to see come to KC. 12:41.879 --> 12:44.262 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd never thought Brian Thomas Jr. was legitimately available. 12:44.282 --> 12:48.507 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the Jags would do, especially to KC, unless the chiefs just vastly overpaid. 12:48.567 --> 12:49.828 [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't see that. 12:49.868 --> 12:53.032 [SPEAKER_02]: You try the leverage game and the chiefs weren't willing to buy it on that leverage. 12:53.272 --> 12:54.513 [SPEAKER_01]: Never saw that being a reality. 12:54.633 --> 13:01.436 [SPEAKER_01]: I never saw Garrett Wilson or Justin Jefferson as much as fun as much fun as that would have been I missed yeah, I didn't see the reality of that. 13:01.456 --> 13:05.918 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought to find to submit there's more realistic than the other two guys Personally, but but still point remains. 13:06.078 --> 13:19.565 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it was a realistic possibility I mean the the Vikings are six and two and they're just they're gonna trade for quarterback not trade their number one wide receiver right that that just made more sense I'm happy because I thought you know what? 13:20.813 --> 13:25.716 [SPEAKER_01]: Worst case, most likely case, Hollywood Brown

come to KC. 13:25.796 --> 13:29.518 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll do a sixth seventh swap and we'll bring Hollywood Brown back. 13:29.838 --> 13:31.119 [SPEAKER_01]: That is what I thought was going to happen. 13:32.028 --> 13:52.580 [SPEAKER_01]: like that that that that that's what I really thought originally was going to happen and then as that today went on a little more scene teams bolster see in the broncos bring in a really good line back or from the chargers seen the the jacks go almost all in what it feels like which good for them good for them just seeing some of these moves around the NFL that you know what 13:53.320 --> 13:54.221 [SPEAKER_01]: the chiefs need to. 13:54.881 --> 14:06.487 [SPEAKER_01]: Once I saw that average separation score that asked score and seen how asked the chiefs were at asked, I got they have to make a move or else this team can simply not win against really good teams come play off time. 14:06.847 --> 14:08.048 [SPEAKER_01]: It would just be asking too much. 14:08.208 --> 14:12.690 [SPEAKER_01]: It would almost be fluky at that point because they would not have receivers they could open. 14:12.710 --> 14:18.273 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is what five times more than five times about six times less than league average is what that number was. 14:18.713 --> 14:19.894 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what that would have been. 14:20.527 --> 14:22.288 [SPEAKER_02]: and it looked like that on Sundays. 14:22.528 --> 14:26.489 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we have, the extra analytics are all very nice. 14:26.909 --> 14:29.610 [SPEAKER_02]: No one is arguing those numbers because you've been able to see it. 14:29.630 --> 14:34.972 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is kind of my most optimistic dismount on it all here. 14:35.532 --> 14:39.173 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to make life a little bit easier for Patrick Mahomes. 14:39.774 --> 14:49.457 [SPEAKER_02]: You had to find someone he could throw the ball to, whenever he doesn't have all the time in the world to go extend the play, get rolling out of the pocket. 14:50.437 --> 15:09.232 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope that Josh Downs gets on the field soon and often enough for Mahomes to begin using him as the player that he really needs in this offense, because all of a sudden now, if you're given a little bit of attention to where she writes, a little bit of attention to Travis Kelsey, plenty of attention to either running back out of the backfield, giving Josh Downs. 15:10.293 --> 15:16.935 [SPEAKER_02]: two Patrick Mahomes as a way to get this offense back on track and a way that it just hasn't felt like it's been in quite some time. 15:17.475 --> 15:18.856 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the bet that you're making. 15:18.876 --> 15:21.937 [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying hey we can't we can't go get you a difference making left tackle. 15:22.257 --> 15:25.098 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a wide receiver who can get open against man coverage and that counts. 15:25.418 --> 15:26.138 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're not given. 15:26.158 --> 15:29.120 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not bringing in a different baking tackle for fourth and fifth. 15:29.420 --> 15:29.600 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 15:29.620 --> 15:29.840 [SPEAKER_02]: Correct. 15:29.900 --> 15:30.100 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 15:30.421 --> 15:37.624 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think there are some nuance when it comes to trying to fix the offensive line versus bringing in a wide receiver on a expiring contract. 15:37.744 --> 15:38.705 [SPEAKER_01]: A super chat here from Chris. 15:38.725 --> 15:39.645 [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you Chris. 15:40.045 --> 15:42.126 [SPEAKER_01]: A stash daddy and brisco. 15:42.306 --> 15:42.987 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder who's who? 15:43.707 --> 15:50.151 [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you, Chris, it says my two-fave dudes, so if you can stay sane, he's cheap. 15:50.291 --> 15:53.653 [SPEAKER_01]: And man, we wanted him years ago, he's a lead elite, him and Pat. 15:54.413 --> 16:02.297 [SPEAKER_01]: I think for me, I am, and I've seen this by the way, I've seen a few eye-oakeds in the chat come down, now let's get eye-oaked, let's bring an eye-oaked. 16:02.317 --> 16:05.039 [SPEAKER_01]: Me personally, I don't want the chiefs to bring in brand an eye-oaked. 16:05.399 --> 16:11.723 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he is so far ahead case, if you heard what he did when he went to the 49ers locker room or at least that presser he gave. 16:12.263 --> 16:15.504 [SPEAKER_01]: That is not a guy who looked like he learned his lesson. 16:15.744 --> 16:22.827 [SPEAKER_01]: That was not a guy who looked like I'm can try what happened happened and I'm going to own this and step up. 16:22.987 --> 16:25.949 [SPEAKER_01]: I am so out on bread and I you, I don't give a place to snap again. 16:26.569 --> 16:28.550 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't think he plays a snap at the NFL. 16:28.970 --> 16:30.851 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know a team that would bring him in. 16:31.551 --> 16:35.413 [SPEAKER_01]: That was such a wild off season for now a couple years. 16:36.353 --> 16:47.575 [SPEAKER_01]: the 49ers have been a pretty good organization like we're not talking the jets or the the giants or you know situation where you find oh that's a little weird it's not even a stealer's wide receiver it's the Niners. 16:49.988 --> 16:56.493 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be really surprised if Brandon and I you played again in the NFL, especially after what we heard. 16:56.834 --> 17:07.342 [SPEAKER_01]: When you saw his teammates talk about him in the locker room, when they asked, hey, you know, come back and come back to the facility on these things, there was not really anyone who stood out and was like, yeah, you know what? 17:07.923 --> 17:09.104 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad he's back. 17:09.324 --> 17:12.567 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to slide right in here and like he's never been gone. 17:14.168 --> 17:15.549 [SPEAKER_01]: He was good three years ago. 17:20.063 --> 17:24.564 [SPEAKER_01]: And then went off the deep end, like nearly Antonio Brown style. 17:26.964

--> 17:29.745 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's gonna be brought in by any team. 17:29.925 --> 17:35.446 [SPEAKER_01]: I would take Tyre Kill 10 times out of 10 over considering Brendan and I you personally. 17:36.806 --> 17:41.327 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd give him Justin Tucker's practice squad spot. 17:43.407 --> 17:46.088 [SPEAKER_02]: It's about as much as I'd be willing to commit, but that's about Redland. 17:46.748 --> 17:47.848 [SPEAKER_01]: A practice squad spot. 17:48.623 --> 17:53.786 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what the report was that he was planning on being released and then signing to some NFC teams, Bracca Squad. 17:54.106 --> 18:01.050 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Tyreek is more likely though, because I uke in 23, 1300 yards, 7 touchdowns. 18:02.991 --> 18:09.695 [SPEAKER_01]: And then at 7 games in 24, the injury, no games in 25, obviously no games this year. 18:11.609 --> 18:18.556 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that the whole saga off the field, like he basically told the Niners front office, you were silly for signing me to a contract. 18:19.036 --> 18:19.236 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 18:19.276 --> 18:20.617 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's extraordinarily bad. 18:20.637 --> 18:22.699 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm surprised that he's back to where he is right now. 18:23.760 --> 18:24.021 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 18:24.281 --> 18:26.143 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I am befuddled. 18:26.163 --> 18:28.805 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just can't. 18:28.885 --> 18:33.770 [SPEAKER_01]: At some point, the talent and the headache have to 18:35.961 --> 18:37.161 [SPEAKER_01]: either line-up or be less than. 18:37.741 --> 18:39.582 [SPEAKER_01]: To me, he's exceeded that with the headache. 18:39.722 --> 18:41.702 [SPEAKER_01]: I just cannot imagine that happening. 18:41.722 --> 18:43.143 [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to break up Tyre Kill really quickly. 18:43.563 --> 18:47.504 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Chiefs, again, Josh Downs, the Chiefs get Josh Downs in a seventh. 18:47.704 --> 18:50.965 [SPEAKER_01]: The Chiefs in Returns and the Colts a fourth in a fifth, if you're just now joining us. 18:54.486 --> 18:57.466 [SPEAKER_01]: With the talk of Tyre Kill with Rose and Howe, what was that? 18:57.786 --> 18:58.427 [SPEAKER_01]: A month ago now? 18:59.307 --> 19:00.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pretty close. 19:01.968 --> 19:03.508 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we think that's injury related? 19:04.834 --> 19:08.677 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do we think teams took a look and said, oh, man, that's not what we thought. 19:11.158 --> 19:18.343 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that, I'm being serious now, because I know it's his agent, so he's going to make it sound more imminent. 19:19.104 --> 19:24.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bidding war, all those things, but it still is a little fascinating that we heard that a month ago. 19:25.969 --> 19:28.711 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's been nothing since. 19:29.427 --> 19:49.264 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, even at the time, the the the word was that he wouldn't be ready to actually do anything until like midnovember in that immediately was followed by all the civil suit stuff getting very public so I think I think I think Rosenhaus was trying to get ahead of that wave and everybody looked around and said I'm not going to sign a receiver who is currently in court and not currently running routes so I think I think whenever he's ready to run routes again. 19:49.284 --> 19:51.445 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing the chiefs will be back in contact. 19:52.526 --> 19:53.107 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree. 19:56.079 --> 19:56.979 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, make sense. 19:57.480 --> 20:00.761 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Tariq killed plays with chiefs of season or you think that's a non-star? 20:00.781 --> 20:07.804 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you had to put a percentage on it, let's say one out of a 10, one out of 10, 10 is he's for sure playing and one is not playing where are you at? 20:08.104 --> 20:10.645 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a five and I know that's super, that's a 50, 50. 20:10.725 --> 20:18.488 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that's super non-hot-takey, but I think and I think the next couple of weeks will probably give some inclination on that. 20:18.868 --> 20:20.869 [SPEAKER_02]: How bad is where these hamstring? 20:21.190 --> 20:23.632 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything to be found in Cyrus Allen? 20:24.292 --> 20:30.977 [SPEAKER_02]: Is what's the timeline for Taikwon Fortin, which we obviously won't know publicly but you mentioned like it feels like January's best case scenario. 20:31.257 --> 20:33.939 [SPEAKER_02]: Do they get some signs in the rehab that he'll be back for the playoffs? 20:34.279 --> 20:37.542 [SPEAKER_02]: Or are they thinking now this is probably gonna be on the longer end of that recovery window? 20:38.302 --> 20:43.726 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that if Tyree Kill plays for anybody this year, I think the chiefs are the most likely to be that team. 20:44.126 --> 20:47.169 [SPEAKER_02]: I could also see if he's not back to where he wants to be physically. 20:47.689 --> 20:54.012 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you just sort of strike out this year if you're, if you're Tyreek and Rosenhaus and you try to find yourself your ideal ending spot next off season. 20:54.032 --> 20:56.693 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm sure that Tyreek would love to be an arrowheader right now. 20:56.993 --> 20:57.213 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 20:58.534 --> 20:59.034 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, all right. 20:59.074 --> 21:00.095 [SPEAKER_01]: Super chef and Chris again, thank you. 21:00.115 --> 21:00.575 [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate it. 21:00.635 --> 21:00.995 [SPEAKER_01]: I got it. 21:01.075 --> 21:02.696 [SPEAKER_01]: Bring it over meal as therapist for I. 21:02.716 --> 21:02.916 [SPEAKER_01]: You. 21:06.057 --> 21:06.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Where the shot? 21:07.058 --> 21:07.498 [SPEAKER_01]: Strong. 21:08.198 --> 21:08.598 [SPEAKER_01]: Strong. 21:09.018 --> 21:09.219 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 21:09.599 --> 21:13.080 [SPEAKER_01]: I think overall, oh, that's a good question from Steven. 21:13.801 --> 21:15.581 [SPEAKER_01]: Who plays a snap for the chiefs

first this year? 21:16.082 --> 21:16.742 [SPEAKER_01]: Simmons or Hill? 21:17.792 --> 21:19.733 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been making that jokes since like week four. 21:22.814 --> 21:23.115 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 21:23.315 --> 21:24.195 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not answering that question. 21:24.375 --> 21:25.196 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have an answer for that. 21:26.196 --> 21:27.136 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I go to every kill. 21:27.156 --> 21:28.577 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's take a quick break. 21:28.917 --> 21:29.558 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's come back. 21:29.658 --> 21:32.259 [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to keep talking more and more about this. 21:32.779 --> 21:35.580 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Downs news to Kansas City. 21:36.481 --> 21:43.264 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think this is a big boost for this chief's offense and I do think it helps what we saw from the first eight weeks of KC. 21:43.284 --> 21:44.885 [SPEAKER_01]: But first, Patrick has some for you. 21:46.868 --> 21:49.312 [SPEAKER_00]: Having a kid changes your perspective on things. 21:49.352 --> 21:56.543 [SPEAKER_00]: My son is too now, and between raising a toddler, paying a mortgage, and everything else, I've got a lot more to think about than just myself. 21:57.023 --> 22:01.090 [SPEAKER_00]: And look, nobody likes thinking about what happens to their family if they're not around. 22:01.370 --> 22:01.951 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's a good thing. 22:01.951 --> 22:03.552 [SPEAKER_00]: that's why life insurance matters. 22:04.012 --> 22:05.973 [SPEAKER_00]: Ethos makes the process easy. 22:06.293 --> 22:08.955 [SPEAKER_00]: You can get a quote in seconds and apply online in minutes. 22:08.975 --> 22:10.116 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no medical exam. 22:10.356 --> 22:12.697 [SPEAKER_00]: You just answer a few health questions online. 22:13.057 --> 22:17.540 [SPEAKER_00]: Take 10 minutes to get covered today with life insurance through ethos. 22:17.880 --> 22:21.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Get your free quote at ethos.com slash arrowhead. 22:21.042 --> 22:24.924 [SPEAKER_00]: That's ETHOS.com slash arrowhead. 22:25.304 --> 22:27.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Application times may vary, rates may vary. 22:29.646 --> 22:37.788 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, a couple of shots to get to thank you, Faith Ford, by the way, for the Super Chat, really appreciate you there, and then for Michael, they should have traded Simmons for a good left tackle. 22:37.848 --> 22:39.409 [SPEAKER_01]: No one's taken Josh Simmons right now. 22:41.229 --> 22:42.070 [SPEAKER_01]: No one's taken Simmons. 22:42.610 --> 22:43.570 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got zero value. 22:44.250 --> 22:49.812 [SPEAKER_01]: And then also great name, though, by the way, Michael, system of a downs, great fancy football name if you have Josh downs. 22:49.952 --> 22:52.113 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a system of a downs. 22:52.513 --> 22:54.854 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Faith Ford with the Super Chat and the 22:57.655 --> 23:00.339 [SPEAKER_01]: Does this really help still down on Viche? 23:01.280 --> 23:03.343

[SPEAKER_01]: I think this helps a good amount. 23:03.563 --> 23:09.131 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is not a Nico Collins, this is not a, 23:10.743 --> 23:31.692 [SPEAKER_01]: Justin Jefferson, Garrett Wilson, but this is, in my opinion, a solid wide receiver to a very useful player who should not be the focal point of your offense, but as a really nice piece in your offense, think of him in the way of different style, okay? 23:31.752 --> 23:35.774 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the different stylistic players, but I think they would almost be in a bucket if that's fair. 23:36.114 --> 23:36.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 23:36.994 --> 23:37.595 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you throw? 23:38.556 --> 23:48.284 [SPEAKER_01]: Trade Tucker in that bucket would you would you throw maybe a Jordan Addison in that bucket at this point early career Jordan Addison We thought was gonna hit a little higher, right? 23:48.644 --> 23:49.765 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so too. 23:50.146 --> 24:00.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think that's a little bit of where we're at when it comes to Josh That's different style players those guys, but a guy here like he's not the focal point of your offense, but if he's on your team Not the focal point 24:01.695 --> 24:14.050 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he'd be pretty happy with what he can do, and so I think his separation, which is exactly what the chiefs need from a wide receiver, is tremendous enough that he will get some good run and elevate this offense. 24:14.370 --> 24:17.795 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think the floor has been raised fairly tremendously. 24:18.611 --> 24:24.294 [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Pippman before the year was traded for a six with a seven. 24:24.314 --> 24:27.435 [SPEAKER_02]: So basically, the late swap, the Steelers ended up paying him right after. 24:27.475 --> 24:37.980 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a little bit, it's kind of, it's kind of apples and oranges, but right now all you're guaranteed is eight games of Josh Downs or nine games of Josh Downs or whatever it'll be, what's the record? 24:38.000 --> 24:38.961 [SPEAKER_02]: Seven, there are six and two. 24:39.201 --> 24:41.222 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so nine games of Josh Downs. 24:41.482 --> 24:43.403 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never quite given up on the 16 game seasons. 24:48.559 --> 25:06.826 [SPEAKER_02]: let's say a good compromise leaves everybody mad right I think that this is good a good return for the quotes he's a immediately useful player for the chiefs I'm kind of a draft pick hoarder myself I want to have as many chances as possible because sometimes your later draft picks 25:12.208 --> 25:17.989 [SPEAKER_02]: Lageria Sneed as a fourth round pick and 2020 was unbelievable. 25:18.049 --> 25:28.351 [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't give up Lageria, you wouldn't give up a full rookie contract of Lageria Sneed in Mike Dana in the fourth and fifth round of the 2020 draft, but she would give up, and you might have to come in Johnson right now. 25:28.411 --> 25:33.292 [SPEAKER_02]: You might not give up Jaden Cannon in Johnson, but she would give up Jalen Royals in Jeffrey Bosta from 2025. 25:33.892 --> 25:37.372 [SPEAKER_02]: Jaden Hicks and Hunter Norse ad from 2024 probably would, right? 25:37.833 --> 25:39.153 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a good order to us. 25:40.493 --> 25:53.856 [SPEAKER_02]: What was during Canada for he was a fan of Joshua Williams, so maybe not Joshua Williams was a really good player for a while until he wasn't And again, it's the the difficult thing about all of that and and I don't know how deep in the weeds we want to go on this front 25:54.765 --> 26:01.412 [SPEAKER_02]: but the difficult thing about trading draft picks is that it is many years of team control to develop a young player. 26:01.912 --> 26:07.538 [SPEAKER_02]: If they extend Josh Downs for about what he would get in free agency, it's not gonna be a bargain, right? 26:07.558 --> 26:10.741 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they're gonna have to pay him real money if he's knocking on the door of free agency. 26:11.001 --> 26:15.465 [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't like they have him in 2027 and so they have a window to negotiate this off season. 26:15.746 --> 26:18.989 [SPEAKER_02]: He either gonna hit free agency and probably make a decent amount of money. 26:19.389 --> 26:27.673 [SPEAKER_02]: or the chiefs extend him in house and maybe he doesn't get quite as much money but he stays in Kansas City with Patrick Mom's and doesn't have to go through the market and all of that. 26:28.073 --> 26:38.638 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this impacts what they do with her she writes but all we know right now is that you're getting about half a season of Josh Downs for two picks that are probably worth roughly a third. 26:38.958 --> 26:43.860 [SPEAKER_02]: Now the chiefs do still have two thirds because they have their own and the Rams pick so they're not like 26:44.420 --> 26:48.983 [SPEAKER_02]: depleted of draft capital by making this move, which I think is an important part of it all as well. 26:49.204 --> 26:55.488 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I'm just like, I'm a little bit conflicted all in all, not in the way that you're conflicted when you know something bad has happened. 26:55.648 --> 27:01.152 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm conflicted in the way, I was like, oh man, the offense is much better today and Patrick Muhammad's his life just got easier. 27:01.413 --> 27:12.561 [SPEAKER_02]: That's something I am willing to give up a fourth and a fifth round pick for, but also we talk a lot about fourth and fifth round picks around draft season and sometimes they're hits and sometimes they are misses. 27:13.241 --> 27:18.066 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, there was the comment earlier asking about, like, sharing how they feel about Brett Beach right now. 27:19.928 --> 27:30.477 [SPEAKER_02]: I think at some point, you say, hey, we have Patrick Mahomes, and if we want to make sure that he has a receiver other than Rishi Rice, that we know is going to be out there the rest of this season, and 37-year-old Travis

Kelsey. 27:31.664 --> 27:33.165 [SPEAKER_02]: You missed on wide receivers. 27:33.305 --> 27:34.085 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the other part of this. 27:34.105 --> 27:35.466 [SPEAKER_02]: It leaves me a little bit conflicted, right? 27:35.486 --> 27:58.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if where she rice was healthy and like a good all around guy you were never worried about off the field or anything and if Xavier worthy had worked out even as to the level of a late first round pick and frankly if Josh Simmons was playing right now, you might be in a place offensively where you don't have to make a move like this, but I kind of think the chiefs had to make a move like this because that's just where they're at now. 28:00.011 --> 28:14.394 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the chiefs had to like I don't think after the past couple weeks you could have looked at this roster with the injury is with the separation and think that they were fine and still think that your legitimate Super Bowl contender with even Patrick Mahomes has your quarterback. 28:15.055 --> 28:16.875 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this helps because he wins quick. 28:17.475 --> 28:18.935 [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about beating man coverage. 28:19.336 --> 28:19.876 [SPEAKER_01]: He does that. 28:20.216 --> 28:24.657 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what helps a bad offensive line or at least inconsistent tackle play. 28:25.437 --> 28:47.320 [SPEAKER_02]: a wide receiver who wins quick you can go to correct so like this should alleviate a lot of those not everything i'm not seeing everything fixed let's not what i'm trying to say but i think it's a review worthy to just go say hey you're our sacrificial deep guy again like we're just gonna we're gonna let you just go run in a straight line we got to hit you once every month but you can you can kind of delegate that out a little bit easier now with Josh downs on the roster 28:47.620 --> 28:49.841 [SPEAKER_01]: 100% especially with Taikwon being out. 28:49.861 --> 28:56.924 [SPEAKER_01]: So then more of the moves back into that role, then you would have basically downs be Hollywood Brown of last year and rice be rice. 28:58.925 --> 29:00.205 [SPEAKER_01]: You see how it fits. 29:00.845 --> 29:02.286 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it makes sense. 29:03.086 --> 29:09.369 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in, I care less about this particular draft capital of the fourth and fifth and the chiefs do get that seventh round back in return. 29:10.469 --> 29:12.050 [SPEAKER_01]: I get the thought process of draft capital. 29:12.290 --> 29:14.811 [SPEAKER_01]: I do then the chiefs would look at down to the guy they'd bring back. 29:17.605 --> 29:21.669 [SPEAKER_01]: his AAV potential projected is around 15 million. 29:22.189 --> 29:23.411 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you give him three for 45? 29:25.333 --> 29:29.276 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably, I think it's gonna, I think that's gonna go up would be my, would be my bet. 29:29.336 --> 29:37.144 [SPEAKER_02]: If he is even like, if he is the player that we are talking about him being for the Chiefs the rest of the way, I'm guessing that that number will go up, would be my early prediction. 29:38.225 --> 29:40.808 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it'd be drastically more than that. 29:41.713 --> 29:45.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I don't think you're looking at a guy who's Christian Kirk contract. 29:46.056 --> 29:47.177 [SPEAKER_01]: Was that four for 80 something? 29:48.198 --> 29:51.341 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think I was gonna say, I think it could very well be in the low 20s. 29:51.901 --> 29:53.102 [SPEAKER_01]: And how long ago was that? 29:53.162 --> 29:54.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Five years ago now? 29:54.183 --> 29:57.645 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna have to pull up some of the more recent. 29:59.469 --> 30:25.654 [SPEAKER_02]: contract extensions like that pitman when we were talking about it would be interesting too well and that's why i like michael pitman but you can't look at that in my opinion you can't look at the trade for michael pitman junior before the season started because it was all about the contract but if the chiefs were to give josh down 17.5 million which was the AAV on on pitman's extension there like that would be around that bucket alic pure scott twenty eight and a half and if he never plays that's going to be the one that we look at after the christian 30:28.233 --> 30:31.836 [SPEAKER_01]: I said from the get go, that was just a horrific, uh, extension for peers. 30:32.196 --> 30:32.437 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 30:32.477 --> 30:42.125 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's like a bad idea from how anyone didn't see that coming or how everyone saw it coming besides the cults is, well, the people that gave him the contract needed to work, or else they weren't going to be there and they're not there. 30:42.725 --> 30:43.606 [SPEAKER_01]: And now they're not there. 30:44.126 --> 30:45.808 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, for me, 30:47.650 --> 30:52.111 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really happy by this move and I agree I see people saying they needed a pass Russia. 30:52.331 --> 30:53.391 [SPEAKER_01]: They needed a tackle. 30:54.112 --> 30:55.192 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't argue those. 30:55.992 --> 31:03.314 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they also needed a third linebacker because Jack Conquern's getting too much playing time because they won't play Bosa or right now really even Cooper McDonald post injury. 31:04.914 --> 31:07.155 [SPEAKER_01]: I get that Ed Russia in tackle. 31:08.399 --> 31:09.461 [SPEAKER_01]: would make a huge difference. 31:09.721 --> 31:11.523 [SPEAKER_02]: I disagree about Edge Rusher by the way. 31:12.504 --> 31:21.596 [SPEAKER_02]: How many Edge Rushers out there were going to be definite improvements over Ashton, Joladi, and Armace and Thomas as opposed to wide receivers who would be definite improvements over Jalen Royals? 31:21.956 --> 31:23.639 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think that's a totally different conversation. 31:24.134 --> 31:30.840 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you're correct in the same argument of I don't think how I don't

think Justin Jefferson or Garrett Wilson were ever really available. 31:31.280 --> 31:33.242 [SPEAKER_01]: Those edge rusher's weren't really available. 31:33.522 --> 31:34.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 31:34.023 --> 31:42.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Tackels aren't really available unless you are legitimately going to overpay like what what was it Damon for the cults. 31:44.459 --> 31:45.779 [SPEAKER_01]: They finally found their left tackle. 31:46.079 --> 31:47.220 [SPEAKER_01]: They finally found their talent. 31:47.240 --> 31:47.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right. 31:47.580 --> 31:50.720 [SPEAKER_02]: So now, so now will you send him our way for a third? 31:50.900 --> 31:52.021 [SPEAKER_02]: No, they're not going to. 31:52.101 --> 31:52.981 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely not. 31:53.061 --> 31:54.561 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just not going to have it right. 31:54.681 --> 31:57.922 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's how it would have broken down. 32:00.182 --> 32:05.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Downs was the best realistic option I think for the Kansas City chiefs. 32:05.244 --> 32:06.604 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what's the biggest name so far? 32:06.644 --> 32:07.324 [SPEAKER_01]: Treated at the deadline. 32:08.458 --> 32:10.882 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Kurt Cousins probably, but that's not really what you're asking. 32:11.322 --> 32:15.508 [SPEAKER_02]: Jesse Bates and the, I mean, the jag sent a first and a second for the defensive tackle. 32:15.528 --> 32:17.752 [SPEAKER_02]: His name currently escapes me as Jordan Dorton Davis. 32:17.812 --> 32:23.179 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jordan Davis is probably the biggest, most expensive trade so far. 32:23.520 --> 32:24.682 [SPEAKER_01]: He's an easy, really good player. 32:25.380 --> 32:26.461 [SPEAKER_02]: lot to get up. 32:26.541 --> 32:32.769 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess Jeffrey Simmons earlier than that would be the biggest trade and the highest capital a little earlier than the deadline. 32:32.789 --> 32:33.309 [SPEAKER_01]: Great call. 32:33.570 --> 32:34.170 [SPEAKER_01]: Great call. 32:34.931 --> 32:36.793 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about Jeffrey Simmons because it was a earlier. 32:36.814 --> 32:37.915 [SPEAKER_01]: He's played two games. 32:37.955 --> 32:38.616 [SPEAKER_01]: He's played two games. 32:38.636 --> 32:39.236 [SPEAKER_01]: He's played games. 32:40.157 --> 32:42.140 [SPEAKER_01]: Jeffrey Simmons was the biggest one. 32:42.680 --> 32:43.842 [SPEAKER_01]: You're correct in that regard. 32:45.013 --> 32:48.054 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's still one massive name. 32:48.214 --> 32:50.195 [SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Davis is probably the second biggest name. 32:50.755 --> 32:55.896 [SPEAKER_01]: Kirk Cousins is like a 38-year-old backup quarterback who just because we saw the Vikings do. 32:56.377 --> 32:57.937 [SPEAKER_01]: Go, they need someone. 32:59.658 --> 33:00.698 [SPEAKER_01]: Down just probably what? 33:01.938 --> 33:02.719 [SPEAKER_01]: Third biggest name? 33:04.459 --> 33:06.540 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe fourth, if you wanna say Jesse Bates? 33:08.196 --> 33:17.380 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, if you're going to find your name, anybody who's going to be picked up in fantasy is a bigger name than most offenders at this point, overall cost. 33:17.640 --> 33:18.941 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's also this sort of interesting. 33:18.961 --> 33:20.762 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Bill's 7th round pick. 33:20.802 --> 33:22.122 [SPEAKER_02]: The Chiefs are sending back by the way. 33:23.263 --> 33:23.723 [SPEAKER_01]: What was that now? 33:24.063 --> 33:24.363 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 33:24.383 --> 33:29.085 [SPEAKER_02]: The Chiefs are getting the Bill's 7th round pick, not the Colts 7th round pick. 33:29.105 --> 33:31.506 [SPEAKER_02]: So it will be a late 7th instead of an early 7th. 33:31.846 --> 33:32.147 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 33:32.447 --> 33:34.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, bummer still, something. 33:35.452 --> 33:36.313 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a UDFA. 33:36.393 --> 33:38.095 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a UDFA take it, basically. 33:38.975 --> 33:39.356 [SPEAKER_02]: It's guaranteed. 33:39.376 --> 33:41.358 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why the Nussmire pick ended up being right exactly. 33:42.619 --> 33:48.124 [SPEAKER_02]: Or for Shard Smith or CJ Hansen or Nick Jones or Nasi Johnson, just to show our work. 33:49.966 --> 33:50.947 [SPEAKER_01]: Additionally, Pacheco. 33:51.408 --> 33:52.268 [SPEAKER_01]: Hope he keys. 33:53.550 --> 33:55.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Excalibur super chat appreciate you. 33:55.231 --> 33:57.514 [SPEAKER_01]: So the ad tyreek and Bob's your uncle. 33:59.035 --> 33:59.676 [SPEAKER_01]: Give an uncle Bob. 34:00.400 --> 34:02.462 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have an Uncle Bobbie you understood that phrase. 34:02.482 --> 34:03.403 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't either know. 34:03.783 --> 34:07.166 [SPEAKER_02]: I like I like the phrase Bob's your uncle, but I don't know where it comes from. 34:07.526 --> 34:12.471 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably from like Some dude named Bob in the 1920s. 34:13.772 --> 34:17.875 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a popular British and commonwealth idiom that means and there it is. 34:17.935 --> 34:19.136 [SPEAKER_02]: It's done everything's completely fine. 34:19.156 --> 34:20.418 [SPEAKER_02]: Except that we knew that. 34:23.046 --> 34:34.372 [SPEAKER_02]: In 1887, Prime Minister Robert Gasconi Cecil Lord Sousbury affectionately informedly called Bob, appointed as nephew Arthur Ballfore to the high ranking and controversial post of chief secretary for Ireland. 34:35.092 --> 34:35.352 [SPEAKER_01]: Boom. 34:36.553 --> 34:46.358 [SPEAKER_02]: Because Balfour's qualification seemed heavily tied to this familiar old connection, the appointment reaped of blatant nepinism, nepotism, people began joking that success was guaranteed simply because... Bob's your uncle. 34:47.599 --> 34:48.920 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, also that might not be true. 34:48.940 --> 34:55.005 [SPEAKER_02]: That's both in the air over view and some, uh, at some etymologists, um, don't necessarily agree with that. 34:55.045 --> 34:57.527 [SPEAKER_02]:

But I gave you an explanation and what else could you ask for? 34:58.127 --> 34:59.368 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that we learn on this show. 34:59.969 --> 35:01.130 [SPEAKER_02]: And we might as well learn something wrong. 35:01.150 --> 35:01.770 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to be clear. 35:01.790 --> 35:03.431 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if any kids are listening, don't go. 35:03.531 --> 35:06.073 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't go writing a paper on that without citing some other sources. 35:06.133 --> 35:07.555 [SPEAKER_02]: Do not cite this show as your source. 35:07.835 --> 35:12.678 [SPEAKER_01]: But cite the fact that Josh Downs is a candid city chief in dude gets open. 35:18.856 --> 35:21.118 [SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about him earlier, you're gonna scroll back into the show. 35:21.138 --> 35:23.300 [SPEAKER_01]: And no, no, no, I you. 35:24.481 --> 35:25.782 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Josh Downs achievements. 35:26.082 --> 35:27.023 [SPEAKER_01]: I see you, Joe Dogey. 35:27.083 --> 35:28.785 [SPEAKER_01]: I get you're not, I guess, thrilled by this. 35:31.086 --> 35:51.403 [SPEAKER_02]: you my question is not who doesn't want it would be like maybe they're genuinely asking for down to the achievements I don't know he became a relevant wider receiver catching passes from Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson and Riley Leonard if you're upset by it I would ask what else you want them to do I would or I could argue that it's a smidge of an overpay. 35:52.063 --> 35:56.167 [SPEAKER_02]: But that's the place that you're stuck in because your receiver room isn't very good right now. 35:56.608 --> 36:01.753 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you wanted Garrett Wilson, the other team has to want to trade that guy away. 36:02.353 --> 36:02.894 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's tough. 36:03.735 --> 36:08.159 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is about the best option. 36:09.541 --> 36:10.422 [SPEAKER_01]: Realistic option. 36:11.202 --> 36:11.302 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 36:11.342 --> 36:13.284 [SPEAKER_01]: I think realistic is the way to go. 36:14.044 --> 36:17.447 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we look here and come play off time. 36:17.467 --> 36:18.688 [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at Rishi Rice. 36:19.549 --> 36:20.930 [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at Josh Downs. 36:21.451 --> 36:22.792 [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at Travis Kelsea. 36:23.292 --> 36:24.693 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're looking at Xavier Worthy. 36:24.934 --> 36:27.175 [SPEAKER_01]: You would hope Taikuan might be back at that point. 36:27.776 --> 36:29.878 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Tyree, a kill if you want to get frisky with it. 36:29.938 --> 36:32.080 [SPEAKER_01]: But the three that I think you know for sure. 36:34.442 --> 36:34.742 [SPEAKER_01]: Rice. 36:36.294 --> 36:41.021 [SPEAKER_01]: worthy down's Kelsey Walker. 36:41.903 --> 36:44.246 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad group. 36:44.687 --> 36:47.591 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad group of position players. 36:48.032 --> 36:51.537 [SPEAKER_01]: And with the emergence of Emmett Johnson, it makes it even better. 36:52.568 --> 36:53.308 [SPEAKER_01]: that's where I'm at. 36:53.769 --> 36:54.369 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited. 36:55.089 --> 36:56.530 [SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone should be excited. 36:57.110 --> 37:02.593 [SPEAKER_01]: I think people shouldn't expect him to be what he was against LaGeria's need when the chiefs played the cults. 37:03.434 --> 37:04.915 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he'll be that every single game. 37:05.615 --> 37:09.057 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he is a guy who can take advantage of slot corners. 37:09.457 --> 37:13.079 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a guy who can get open on 35 and be a safety blanket. 37:13.119 --> 37:16.481 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a guy when you face a really good pass rush. 37:17.841 --> 37:19.422 [SPEAKER_01]: And you have to get the ball out quick. 37:20.062 --> 37:20.683 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's going to win? 37:21.884 --> 37:23.504 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Downs is going to win. 37:24.305 --> 37:26.185 [SPEAKER_01]: So get up and let's get Downs. 37:27.686 --> 37:28.546 [SPEAKER_02]: Downs with the sickness. 37:29.766 --> 37:31.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope the Ariel's game is better. 37:34.007 --> 37:37.208 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that he doesn't have any toxicity in Kansas City. 37:46.558 --> 37:46.898 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 37:47.438 --> 37:49.159 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you don't know, no one knows. 37:49.440 --> 37:52.541 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't have any more, any more, system of a down jokes. 37:52.901 --> 37:54.442 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never done an incredible job. 37:54.722 --> 37:57.664 [SPEAKER_01]: Glory mains, if I had to grade this, let's give it a grade before we get out of here, right? 37:57.704 --> 37:59.385 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's give it a grade, because I think people like grades. 37:59.925 --> 38:00.605 [SPEAKER_01]: I like grades. 38:01.286 --> 38:03.507 [SPEAKER_01]: I clearly seem higher on him than you do. 38:03.847 --> 38:07.229 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll let you go first, so I'll let you be your little- I wanna know what yours was first. 38:07.269 --> 38:08.309 [SPEAKER_02]: You host the show. 38:08.329 --> 38:11.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I will give hit, I will give this move. 38:12.952 --> 38:13.432 [SPEAKER_01]: A B boy. 38:13.472 --> 38:14.352 [SPEAKER_02]: What are they gonna say? 38:16.955 --> 38:17.696 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's totally fun. 38:18.136 --> 38:25.622 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, to get a minus straight AA plus, you got to get like good value, like really good value off the other team. 38:26.542 --> 38:32.627 [SPEAKER_02]: They pay the market price and they need it a wider receiver and sometimes you pay more for gas when your car's on empty. 38:33.027 --> 38:39.192 [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't like it, but it's the thing you do because getting AAA out there to help you out in a few more hours isn't worth the trade off. 38:39.392 --> 38:40.513 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of where I'm at. 38:40.934 --> 38:43.015 [SPEAKER_01]: And the wider receiver room was broken. 38:43.736 -->

38:44.636 [SPEAKER_01]: They were out of gas. 38:45.893 --> 38:50.360 [SPEAKER_01]: and they bring in some some diesel, but they didn't pay diesel price. 38:50.901 --> 38:52.904 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they don't pay the diesel price. 38:52.924 --> 38:53.385 [SPEAKER_01]: They paid it. 38:53.405 --> 38:54.527 [SPEAKER_01]: They at least paid it 2026 online at price. 38:56.225 --> 38:58.126 [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't think that they overpaid. 38:58.246 --> 38:59.827 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a little disagreement that you and I have. 39:00.208 --> 39:03.550 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was going to take probably a third to grab him, I did. 39:04.610 --> 39:09.373 [SPEAKER_01]: So a fourth and a fifth, I'm not too upset. 39:10.234 --> 39:15.057 [SPEAKER_02]: If this was, if you had an extra year of his rookie contract, I'd be like all over it. 39:15.377 --> 39:17.358 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's just the rest of this year, this hesitation. 39:17.578 --> 39:23.322 [SPEAKER_02]: It's also an incomplete grade because we're not really going to know until we first see him play games and then see what they do in the off season. 39:23.645 --> 39:23.825 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 39:24.666 --> 39:29.848 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, a fourth and a fifth rounder is heading from KC and heading to the Indianapolis Colts. 39:29.928 --> 39:32.910 [SPEAKER_01]: The chiefs in return receive Josh Downs. 39:34.005 --> 39:42.669 [SPEAKER_01]: as well as a 7th round draft pick and that 7th round draft pick is the bill's draft pick according to Josh. 39:42.709 --> 39:47.031 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's some nice analysis we have there as more information does come through. 39:47.351 --> 39:59.877 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if anyone gets released any veterans any of those guys I wouldn't be surprised if a third linebacker or maybe a backup safety or something along those lines comes down to Kansas City. 40:02.638 --> 40:04.821 [SPEAKER_01]: Will Andy Reed actually play Josh Downs? 40:05.221 --> 40:06.884 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be shocked if he did not. 40:07.224 --> 40:14.694 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he has a choice at this point, because clearly Royals and Armstrong and Allen, they've not done it this year. 40:15.054 --> 40:16.476 [SPEAKER_01]: I love faith in some of those guys. 40:17.361 --> 40:18.122 [SPEAKER_01]: but not right now. 40:18.782 --> 40:24.346 [SPEAKER_01]: Give me Josh downs and let's get down to scoring some touchdowns and getting open on third down. 40:24.726 --> 40:27.869 [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciated everyone hanging out with us for Josh Brisco makes you fall in the exit. 40:27.889 --> 40:28.890 [SPEAKER_01]: J.B. Risco myself at home. 40:28.930 --> 40:29.450 [SPEAKER_01]: It's K.C. 40:29.770 --> 40:30.911 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys for hanging out with us. 40:30.931 --> 40:31.531 [SPEAKER_01]: Falling along. 40:31.812 --> 40:32.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Give us comments. 40:32.512 --> 40:34.954 [SPEAKER_01]: Five star reviews wherever you get your podcast. 40:34.974 --> 40:36.235 [SPEAKER_01]: We do always appreciate it. 40:36.495 --> 40:37.356 [SPEAKER_01]: We might disagree. 40:37.596 --> 40:38.897 [SPEAKER_01]: We might have some arguments. 40:39.097 --> 40:41.059 [SPEAKER_01]: But in the day, we're all here in Chiefs Kingdom. 40:41.299 --> 40:43.140 [SPEAKER_01]: Hoping they get better and your Kansas 40:45.822 --> 40:46.904 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Downs. 40:46.944 --> 40:48.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, we are out. 40:48.987 --> 40:49.347 [SPEAKER_01]: Downs.