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Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in.
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Speaker 2: The world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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Speaker 1: It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Speaker 1: It's a Saturday for October. You're Everler twenty twenty five. I've asked Kurt Mills and Kurt I'm going to intrude upon you to stick and we're gonna talk about Ukraine. Them will bring Marko Korin in Marks I give us an update on a really a stunning decision yesday the Supreme Court about Venezuela. And then when we go through that, I want to stick around because I do want to talk about Venezuela, and it looks like approaching American kinetic activity there, including seizing seaports and transportation nodes by the United States military. We're getting too that in a second. I think it's very important. Fred Flights has looked at as kind of the he was chief of staff under President Trump's first term for the National Security Council. He's look at that traditional bedrock of Republican thinking about national security, and I think it shows you that we're having a shift, a fundamental, serious shift in the way we think about geopolitics. Now. I am much more aggressive and I would almost say interventionists when it comes against the Chinese Communist Party. I've been accused of by the great Darren Beattie, my close friend and colleague, and Kurt Mills and other people. I'm very close to a funding a CCP memory under every bed. But there's a shift in the shift. There's a geopolitical and national security thought process that's shifting radically, and you can see it in Fred in the situation in the Ukraine. So I want to get you in here, Kurt and to see that quite frankly, you two guys are not that far apart really on the Middle East, although I think a lot of the old hands are like Fred, having got a lot of scars from the Middle East over the last twenty or thirty years, and don't like Hamas. And I keep saying Hamas has a history, as these terrorist organizations do, of being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. And Fred puts it at ten percent, You put it at fifty percent. I think the President will put it higher, right. I think he feels witkoff going there. They'll hammer out some deal and he'll do his force of will. It's one of the reasons I think, more than any person in living memory, he deserves, you know, be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, because he is a man of what is this will make it seven or eight wars, something extraordinary. But at the same time, and I think President Trump, he says it publicly, he says, look, I'm very frustrated about Ukraine. I thought I could do it easier. I thought I could do it quicker. I thought I had a better relationship with two He's he talks about this all the time. And so Fred's nailed something. You and I have talked about for a couple of years here in this Ukraine situation America, like we were in Israel in the Twelve Day War. We were a combatant in that war. I kept telling people. When you send ages cruisers there and you start doing defense target acquisition, and when you've got you're sending THAD missiles over on the defensive side, you're a combatant when you go do the expeditionary force hit by our bombers on the total obliteration. But at the same time, folks, you got nineteen seventies technology of Tomahawk missiles coming out of fast attack submarines in the North Arabian Sea, a place as a young naval officer I was in like late nineteen seventy nine, early nineteen eighty. Okay, you're back to being a combatant in the war. And right now, Kurt, what happened in Wiesbaden, and people understand the CIA and Military Intelligence DIA be running a big deal out of Germany with the Brits and with others. Fred Wright, when you start having loose talk and Zelensky's making comments about I need tomahawks, I need patriots and oh, by the way, President Trump, I think he said, not approved, but basically signed off on, was acknowledged new in advance of the deep strike into Russia, what three or four months ago with the drones, something that Curtis LeMay could even fantasize about. We are getting inexorably sucked into the kinetic part of the Third World War. And let me just remind everybody, because nobody talks about this enough. If you go from September one to nineteen thirty nine, the invasion of Poland to January June twenty first of nineteen forty one, the Wehrmach's invasion of Russia with Operation Barbarossa. If you take that time frame and you look at the killing that really initiated the European War part of the Second World War, it pales in comparison to the casualties. President Trump said that they finally gave you the number. I think it's one point eight million from intelligence sources. And the President said, hey, I'm giving you inside baseball. One point eight million Ukrainians dead or wounded and over a million Russians I think dead. So you're talking a scale of two and a half three over million casualties just in Ukraine right now, and one of the reasons you don't see like MSNBC putting up footage every night like they did in the first days of the war. This is like World War one's Western Front. There's been six hundred and fifty thousand Ukrainian casualties this year. And tell me how much MSNBC you're seeing it has shown you like nothing because it's too brutal. So, Kurt, I'm very concerned that with President Trump focused on all this other stuff, we are getting sucked into. And by the way, the hawks in the arms industry, in the Pentagon, and of course the the the insane Lindsey Grahams and these people want us. They want us, they want us in a basic kinetic war with Russia right now. So what's your what's your concern or observations about the Ukraine situation, Sir.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, still reeling from agreeing so much with Fred Flight's on Ukraine. That's not just anybody you had. There was, of course John Bolton's former chief staff and this sort of wartime consiglire to General Keith Kellogg, who of course remains a special envoy on this whole theater. So if that kind of thinking is ascended among the hawk camp. Uh, that's pretty encouraging. I think that the tomahawk idea needs to be, you know, totally ruled out. Something that you haven't missed on this show is that President Putin, the Czar had his big party this week, which is the Valdai Club meeting in Russia, and he made it pretty clear. And this is the sort of language that I think people from Russia have been saying, both overtly and behind the scenes, that they're done with the Europeans. They had seen. They see themselves as a civilization apart, they see themselves as doing something different from the quote West, and that they are not going to work with the Europeans, who they think are basically historyonic and outdated in their thinking. They will work with the Americans.
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Speaker 2: The Americans, I think, and this is also something we've also discussed, is because there's no real love loss between them and the Chinese. They will work with the Chinese. They are more in line with the Chinese now, but they don't trust them. Russia has a border with a massive border with China, not with the US, and so there's an opportunity and people can say it's a sort.
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Speaker 1: Of Pine the sky hang on second, but hang on one second, because you're hitting an absolute critical point. Since the time of what Katherine the Great or Peter the Great, the Russian czars have tried to and this is why the capital was moved to Saint Petersburg, have tried to make and make the case that they're actually a European nation and try to integrate into into Europe. And this is one of the reasons for the First and Second World War. Dugan, who's kind of the overall geopolitical philosopher and UH theoretician, has made this case for years that this uh, this Eurasian, that they're actually a Eurasian power, and the more that and that Europe is walking away from Christianity, it's a failed society, it's had, it's it's going to be the Islamization is only going to take over. And kind of the camp of the Saints that the elites are too feckless to actually save their own countries, and so why do we want It's a civilization that's dying, why would we want to be a part of it? We're actually a Eurasian power. And they make this very elaborate, uh, you know, pitch about how their Eurasian power, and I agree with it, not with the Chinese Counties party, but down even through Persia and that part of that part of Eurasia all the way to the Arabian Sea. Are you saying in this latest meeting that you think that that because if that's now their new policy, that's a major that's a major pivot, and I think that would raise the possibility of Russia potentially having an armed conflict with Europe. I think I think their belief is that when all the European clowns came to President Trump's the Oval office and came out and they really had no commitments on security, They had no money to put up, they have no arms, no troops, and their people have no political will to do it. They kind of clowned themselves. Are you saying now, because of the embrace of the Eurasian strategy, it would make Russia more open to actually armed conflict against NATO? Are you saying they're just walking away from the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I think it's unclear. The person you cited, Dugan is not just some rando. This isn't I think his relationships with Putin are probably slightly overstated, But they know that he as a massive profile and then you know he's pumping out all this philosophical conjecture all the time, and to an extent, I think he represents the vanguard of the Russian state and the Russian project. I think that's an interesting comparison you made with World War One and a lot of ways the situation has reversed. Because I was in meetings in Russels in June and here's some of these you know, these are not low ranking people that I was talking to. Here's some of these Europeans. They were just one more arm shipment away from you know, taking out Putin in Moscow. That's the cast of mind in Europe and versus the Russians think that this war is going just fine. To an extent, parts of Russia, Russian society fears demobilization, fears the end of the war. So these sides are very far apart as to Russia's orientation to the rest of the world. I mean, a they have a lot of strong relations within the global South, but in general, I would say geopolitically they are a lone wolf. Lone wolf can be good or bad, but they have nuclear weapons. They're prow civilization eleven times, and I think it is incumbent upon the United States to work pragmatically with them. They're not going anywhere. And I think what was very interesting about Putin, it's been well observed as interviews with Carlson, etc. Is how sort of melanchol colic and preoccupied with history is. He talked again this week about the collapse after the Cold War, and he sort of signaled all this thinking in the early nineties, none of it came to anything. The sort of Fukiamist fantasy about the nation's getting along, it didn't happen. This is a realist. This is a stone cold hearted man, no doubt. But it's somebody I think fundamentally the United States can do business with if it prioritizes his own national interest as opposed to the endless indulgence of history Onic Europeans.
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Speaker 1: You hang over a second. I want to hold you. Marco Corean joins us mark a pretty massive ruling from the Supreme Court yesterday. Can you walk the audience through what the ruling was and what this man of impact is going to be, Sir.
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Speaker 4: Sure Biden, when he took over, we all know started just letting pretty much anybody in Venezuelans, especially. There had not been many Venezuelans coming across the border before, but he sort of invited them, and so they came in the hundreds of thousands. And then he used something called Temporary Protected Status TPS. It's in the law, but as the name suggests, it's supposed to be a temporary thing for when there's an earthquake or a volcano and we can't send people home right away. What it does is it gives these illegal immigrants social Security numbers, work permits, they can't get deported. And Biden just kept renewing it, and in fact, the most recent renewal was literally a week and a half before the end of the administration. They were on the way out, they were trying to lock these illegal immigrants into the country, and President Trump said, yeah, okay, well, according to the law, the conditions don't warrant. This shall essentially temporary amnesty. And so we're pulling the plug on it. And as you can imagine, you know, the usual suspects went to a district court in San Francisco, and the judges there just said, oh, yeah, that's right, it's mean to do that. So we're not going to let you do it.
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court.
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Speaker 4: Now this just recently, this was the second time they slapped down a lower court and have said, look, the law says the president can do this. It's called temporary and he's ending it. And so this is a big deal because up to six hundred thousand or more Venezuelan illegal aliens let in by Biden will lose their work permits, lose.
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Speaker 3: Their ability to stay.
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Speaker 4: And the issue is not so much that they're all going to be rounded up and deported, but that they are going to be they've clearly.
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Speaker 3: Been told you got to go back.
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Speaker 4: And in fact, many, if not most of them never even came from Venezuela. They were already living in Colombia, Ecuador, and Peru for years, and they came because you know, Trump invited I mean Biden invited them. And so essentially what the Supreme Court has said, this is the second time they've had to slap down the lower courts. They've said, Trump gets to tell these illegal immigrants that the party's over and they need to leave.
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Speaker 4: Sir, Well, it's a couple of things. First, don't get in the shooting war. But they'll leave that to Kurt to talk about. But the other thing is a lot of these people came from like I said, from Columbia, from Peru and Ecuador, and so they can go there. And as far as deporting people, I don't mean self deporting, because a lot of people could self deport that way. I mean people we take into custody and throw out. The administration now has agreements with a variety of other countries to deport third country nationals there to I'm pretty sure they have one. They've already finished it with Honduras, and they have it with other countries. So some of these people, especially if they're not criminals, the local governments say, well, if they're criminals, maybe we don't want them, or you're gonna have to pay us more. But if they're just regular working stiffs, sure we'll take them, so we can deport them, or they can deport themselves to a variety of places, including Venezuela. But if not, there's a lot of other places in Latin America that they we can send people, or that they can go on their own.
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Speaker 1: Overall, because we haven't had you on in a while, everything else, President Trump's got going. How do you feel right now? And by the way, the whole thing about Antifa and what's happening in Portland, a lot of in Chicago, in Los Angeles is all about the beginning of the process of mass deportations. Right now. I understand we've had two million Courtney Rosemary jenks two million. We have two million illegal aliens or foreign nationals have left the country in the first two hundred and fifty days of President Trump's second term. But where to cis where do you guys think we stand? And given the severity of this, the reason that I think most people would say this is why President Trump won the twenty twenty four election. Where do you think we stand? Nine months into this?
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Speaker 3: I think we're doing pretty well.
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Speaker 4: Look, there's stuff that I wish extra things that I would wish the administration would do, but we are doing pretty well. I mean, that was our research that showed that the total immigrant population is dropped by two point two million from January through July. We estimate one point six million of them were illegals. And of course it's October now, so the numbers even larger. And we actually have a report coming out next week looking at that number from other angles, and it looks like it's real. A lot of people poo pooed it and said, no, no, this is just surveys, what do they know. But it's a real number. The number of immigrants in general and illegals in particular, is going down, and that's not hard to believe, because there's always churn. Even under Biden, some illegals left. The point is fewer are coming in because the borders shut down. There's still people coming in on visas and not leaving, but the number of new illegals is lower, and more people are leaving, obviously, and so this is a real thing. The administration's got to keep it up because it can't just be talking rhetoric and scare people and then not back it up. But they are backing it up. I would like to see more work site enforcement and less talk of just criminals, because yes, obviously we want criminals out. That's you know, you don't get an award for that. But regular illegal immigrants who want a criminal I mean, aren't you know, non immigration criminals just ordinary working people. They need to go too, And I'd like the President to talk a little bit more about that. So I'll give them an a minus, but it's definitely an a minus. I mean, we are moving clearly in the right direction, and now the administration is taking steps to rein in this H one B issue, which I'm sure you've talked about before. This is the supposedly legal immigration of tech workers, which is a total gam soam Scott, I'm feeling pretty good about it.
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Speaker 1: Kurt Mills, So, Kurt, we're talking about hemispheric defense. We're gonna talk a lot tomorrow on our show about the two and fifty about a pivot back here tomorrow or the Monroe Doctrine from the Arctic Panama Canal. But Latin America is sitting out there, and somehow we got to get you know, we got to help get things right. You got Lula an avid Marxist running Brazil and gonna put he's put Boston are in prison for twenty seven years where they were they're going to kill him. No doubt he's leading the bricks nations. Gold's on a roll in the central banks are buying gold at record rates because they're trying to use gold in these Bilad deals and get it. The d dollarization effort is led by Lula. I know, you libertarians like yourself, all the all the coke guys and libertarians you know, rubbing up on Middle A. He's the greatest. Didn't hear that here in the war room. But now, however, you got to save him. You got to save him Scott Bessten, who's not into bailouts, and get him a twenty billion dollar bailout right. And on top of that, little Marco, our Secretary of State, who's we've tried to shift away from being a neokhon I thought were there. He's got an amphibious ready group off the coast, events away, and they're up on Capitol Hill pitching. And this is the first time that the Trump administration, I think, has ever acknowledged issues structural issues or customs and traditions. So they're trying to get ahead of the war Powers act by saying no, no, no, no, no, You've misinterpreted. These are non state actors. These are drug dealers, and we're going to do a lot more in just taking out these speed boats. The plan is, I think been leaked that they intend to or at least a plan is to tend to take over the ports and transportation nodes in an actual invasion. Your thoughts, sir, Well.
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Speaker 2: The Secretary doesn't appear to be able to give up the old religion, as you are well aware, in the first term, the now Secretary of State was the key interlock in Earth administration selling the new President Trump back in seventeen eighteen nineteen on some of the most hair brain schemes for Latin America. Members of Trump's first team, namely mister Bolton and mister Pompeo, we're very zealous on this. There was a bit of an abortive effort to do that. Everyone remembers the one Guido episode, and so there was a lot of books that this was kind of behind us. There are elements, you know, even members of President Trump's club, This Harry Sargent character, as well as Rick Cornell, who wanted to be Secretary State by most reporting, who wanted to do a deal basically with Maduro. Maduro is a sort of you know, timpot dictator in South America, but not necessarily a major threat to US national security. And I think the risks of going in versus going versus you know, keeping our powder dry are pretty clear. The Latin America has a lot of problems. South America has a lot of problems. But what it doesn't have historically in Venezuela is the one exception Visa Vie Columbia. What it doesn't have is these massive refugee crises that we saw in the Syrian case, in the Libyan case. And so I think the way to think about Mduro is as maybe a Latino Goadaffi, and we what do we learn from the Godaffi case? What do we learned by not listening to Goadaffi himself? If you break it, you buy it, and you will see tons of people flowing over. So I think it is curious, and you know, I think he deserves to do difference as a sort of expert on this. But you're hearing that the people like Steven Miller aligned with Marco Rubio for this regime change plan. I think you can be completely counterproductive. And then if we're going to talk about fentanyl, the reality there, and I think there's concerning a rock war parallels. The reality here is some of these guys are just cooking this up. Fentanyl is not what Venezuela is in the business of. Is there a fentanyl in Venezuela probably above Zea, But Mexico is Theezuela.
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Speaker 1: The CCP and the Mexican cartels or the fentanyl Come on, okay, real quickly. I just want to hold you to break. But if you believe in America first, and we got an hemispheric defense, the question I want you to answer, we get back Latin America is a festering sored. You've got a massive prob in Argentina and if you don't somehow intervene, it's going to spin out of control. You've got a huge problem in Brazil, and you do have a problem down in Venezuela. So if you do want to argue hemispheric defense and come home and have expeditionary power to do total obliteration on the Eurasian land mass, if we sow at times and places of our choosing, how do you do this? The argument of Marco and I think Steve Stephen Miller, is that we've got to set things right here in the Western Hemisphere, and I ask Kurt Mills that on the other side, Tage Gill's going to join us. Sponsored by Birch Gold. Text Bannon b A N N O N at nine eight nine eight nine eight Get the Ultimate Guide. Do it today. It's a Saturday. Watch football with one eye and read this with the other. Check it out. Get to Philip Patrick and the team to talk about why you should consider putting physical gold into your portfolio. Short commercial break. Heere's your host, Stephen K. Bath, Patriot Mobile, Glinster and the team historical what they've helped us accomplish in Texas, including the five seats we picked up of twenty one that's the number, the top numbers, twenty one five in Texas, got sixteen more to go. We're pounding on that starting Monday. We've done the preamble with de Grasse. Of course we got to that's the gross number. We don't want to net out five in California, so we're going to be all over. The California situation is Newsom has banked his political career on winning this referendum and getting stealing fire seats from US. In Jerry Mandarin uh nine seven to two. Patriot call right now, get a US citizen that will answer all your questions of why it's the best mobile service out there. Nine seven to two Patriot, Do it today, Tom Steve Bannon sent you, and you get a free month. In transition, Kurt Mills the question of South America and about if we're going to have a hemispheric defense and enforce the Monroe Doctrine two point zero. You need to sort out the mess down there. But is that just a Is this just a new breeding ground for neo khon three point h Sir.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it certainly could be. I mean, I think there's some positive tailwinds and some terrible headwinds. So I think the optimistic news is that the rumored national security strategy coming out of the Pentagon will emphasize hemispheric defense, as you indicated, and I think there's a way to do that that's very grounded in American history. The Monroe Doctrine is not some twentieth century invention, not some twenty first Neocon stuff. The fifth President of the United States enacted it, and it has worked very well for the US to be the dominant and unquestioned power in the Americas. And it's not necessarily something surely not something that I would seek to overturn. The danger though, and we just talked about Russia Ukraine earlier this morning. The danger is of creating another Ukraine in the US's backyard. President Putin made a mistake in his special military operation. It backfired, it didn't work. He's recovering, and the Russians have moderated their goals. But imagine an outright invasion of one of our neighbors that becomes a breeding ground for all of our enemies to a encourage refuge massive refugee flows and b just muck it up. I think we saw elements of this in June with the Iran crisis. These reports are very, very sort of loosely sourced, but there was indications that the Chinese were planning to do some stuff if the war had dragged on it had become a regime change war. I'm not at all convinced anymore that Jijiiping is necessarily going to invade Taiwan. But if he sees his opportunity, it's like anything in life, like with any gambler. If he sees the US mired in a war, Ukraine and then opening up a new front in Venezuela. I think you could see all kinds of intervention, and there's all kinds of Russian and Chinese and even yeah, Irani and elevanies money coming in there, and it could be a real risk for us. There's a way to do this. Be moderate, be pragmatic, uh, you know, slowly move the Maduro people towards a more reasonable accommodation of the United States and avoid bloodshed.
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Speaker 1: Let's pivo abat. I just want to get you on Israel be foree punch and I got a lot to say about the national new national defense policies coming out. I think it's way too weak on the CCP and Taiwan and all that. But we'll bridge. Colby and the guys are working on I'll have you back on. Maybe we'll get you on tomorrow or on a naval thing to talk about the geopolitics and the strategia. But back to net Yahoo. People don't remember. Most people don't know, or have not never learned or forgotten that Churchill for all the things, these line nights in the West, and the greatest of course, I understand Tucker and guys have a different perspective. But let's say he's one of the great leaders of the West in the twentieth century of Christen the for all the years in the wilderness and coming and warned about the Nazis and actually keeping FDR focus and being one of the key architects of victory, no doubt about that. He war. The Germans surrendered on the eighth of May nineteen forty five, I believe it was mid July of nineteen forty five. Just about sixty days later they called an election and Winston Churchill was turfed out before before the before the surrender of Japan, of which obviously the British Empire was a major part of that. Isn't that in the same situation? Is this in his calculations all about his political viability? Are they thinking right now in Jerusalem and thinking through are they Are they gaming out how he can continue to hold power or end up being like Churchill?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember there's a cover piece a year or two ago in the Claremont Review books my friends over there that it was by Andrew Roberts, the great sort of Churchill's toographer, who called net Yaho the Churchill of the Middle East. Team mentate as a compliment. I think it's more of an accurate statement of fact, which is that net Yahoo, while the towering figure of a quarter century of Israeli politics, is also an invincibly precarious one, and if there is no war, there could be no power for net Yahoo. We don't know. His position is certainly stronger, and he was definitely underrated after the October seventh attacks. But an election is really dicey. And you mentioned the Churchill situation. He lost to a rival not quite as towering, but still a significant figure in British politics, Clement Attlee, who had been the leader of the opposition before the war, had been leader of the Labor Party, you know, into the thirties. Tally Bennett, net Yaho's protege turned rival, has already been Prime Minister, and he could easily sell himself as a safer conservative pair of hands that will just turn down the temperature a little bit for a couple of years in Israel. I'm not I'm sure the White House and Trump will have problems with Netyah, and I think Americans will have problems. We have problems with Bennett, and I think there's reasons to be concerned about Bennett. I have no love loss for him, but this is a far more stable figure net Na, who at this point needs the instability. He needs the crisis. It's almost a sort of gormless desire for chaos. Chaos is how he stays in the mix.
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Speaker 1: Kurt, where do people get your social media and where they get your over the American Conservative Www.
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Speaker 2: The American Conservative dot Com two thousand and two, founded by pat U Caanan, Scott McConnell, and TAKEI against the Iraq War, and my own stuff is at Kurt Mills at c u RT and my llls on X and you know the Internet.
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Speaker 1: So I think I'm pretty safe in saying the Israel First crowd you're their number one. They hate you probably more than anybody, right, I mean, they talk about Tucker and Anston, but you're You're You're kind of the the brains of the operation on the opposition. So the smart guys hate you more than even Tucker. Am I right in saying that?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 2: I think it's a friendly disagreement.
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Speaker 1: Kurt Mills, thank you for joining us, sir. I appreciate you, so Tage Gil. President Trump's team went up to Capitol Hill to kind of get a work around on the war Powers Act, which, by the way, I think the Warpowers Act is totally unconstitutional. We got to try to push that to make sure we can get so. Just like the the electoral Count of eighteen eighty seven, which is I think a great document, we played by the rules in the election of twenty twenty was illegal, but I also think that that has certain unconstitutional provisions, and particularly what they've done to it recently. And he said, we're not They said, we're not going to war with Venezuela, We're not going to war with Mexico. We're not going to war in Central America. We're going to war against nons And they said, we're actually at war with non state actors, these these cartels. And of course President Trump has declared Antifa a terrorist organization. And now you got the US Army, I don't know talking about the eighty second Airborne or or others going actually be deployed to Portland. Asymmetric warfare. How dangerous is this situation in Venezuela, And how quickly do you think it can be sorted out? If we'd go asymmetric actual kinetic war against these drug cartels, sir.
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Speaker 5: It can, it can get very dangerous, but we'll see. You know, we took down Pablo Escobar and there was not a lot of repercussions for that. Everybody said if we bomb I ran, there's gonna be World War three. That did. It happened, So I think the threat I was on the table. It needs to be realized that we need to plan for it because we have there's cartels, and especially in the states where there's legalized marijuana, there's heavy cartel activities, so they have cartel members in the US US and you know, it's kind of like having a Olkada sleeper selts. If we start attacking the cartels in Venezuela and Mexico. Some people say that they're going to start launching terrorist attacks in the US, but that's worst case scenario.
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Speaker 1: We'll see.
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Speaker 5: It might happen, it might not, But I think the safest way to do it is using army special forces. They go in and they work with the locals and attack the cartels that way. And then the more aggressive way to do it is going to be the way we did asymmetrical warfare in the Global War on Terrorism, where we're launching direct action missions against these cartels, their supply supply lines, their training camps, and their personnel, and you know that's going to be flying in the middle of the well, it'll be treated as I think it would be treated as cross border missions. I doubt we're going to go in and actually set up like ford operating bases and Venezuela or Mexico where the cartels are. It'll be like cross border raids where we going in the middle of the night, hit a target and then lead by right.
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Speaker 1: Now, But but but it has been leaked that there is a plan. I'm not saying they're executor, but it's a plan that they're considering to see. I mean this is now three or four publications have it where they're thinking of going in and seizing key ports in Venezuela and maybe even transportation notes, rail rail lines, are rail crossings, et cetera. What what would that That would be a major escalation, right, even if you're going against non state actors, you're actually physically there with with with with troops and material out actually on the ground that then have to be defended.
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Speaker 5: Correct Yeah, correct, yeah, yeah, then yeah, that's the whole different story. Yeah, if we're seizing ports and strategic targets. That's different from striking the partel personnel supply lines that I was talking about. So, I mean that's that's basically like a small scale invasion in places. Then, like you said, once we take those targets, we have to hold them and defend them. So that's a whole different ball of wax. It's it's it's I mean, as you know, it's possible. We invade countries all the time, everywhere, all around the world. So we've got the strongest military in the world and the most technological.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 5: It's definitely possible. And uh, I think I think we can do it without with without sustaining minimal casualties, just because we have the technology. And then you know we're going to get air dominance overnight over there. If we do that, that's that's the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: If we control the air, I think we'll control the air instantaneously, right, not your drones, but combat air combat air patrol. Tay Jonas tomorrow for a naval special being you were a former your former naval personnel as we refer to as Churchill talk to me about. I need a cup of coffee, particularly after the show this morning, I've finished my lot of Warpath Dark Roast. I need to brew another. Tell me where to go to get everything about Warpath Coffee.
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Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in.
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Speaker 1: It's a Saturday for October. You're Everler twenty twenty five. I've asked Kurt Mills and Kurt I'm going to intrude upon you to stick and we're gonna talk about Ukraine. Them will bring Marko Korin in Marks I give us an update on a really a stunning decision yesday the Supreme Court about Venezuela. And then when we go through that, I want to stick around because I do want to talk about Venezuela, and it looks like approaching American kinetic activity there, including seizing seaports and transportation nodes by the United States military. We're getting too that in a second. I think it's very important. Fred Flights has looked at as kind of the he was chief of staff under President Trump's first term for the National Security Council. He's look at that traditional bedrock of Republican thinking about national security, and I think it shows you that we're having a shift, a fundamental, serious shift in the way we think about geopolitics. Now. I am much more aggressive and I would almost say interventionists when it comes against the Chinese Communist Party. I've been accused of by the great Darren Beattie, my close friend and colleague, and Kurt Mills and other people. I'm very close to a funding a CCP memory under every bed. But there's a shift in the shift. There's a geopolitical and national security thought process that's shifting radically, and you can see it in Fred in the situation in the Ukraine. So I want to get you in here, Kurt and to see that quite frankly, you two guys are not that far apart really on the Middle East, although I think a lot of the old hands are like Fred, having got a lot of scars from the Middle East over the last twenty or thirty years, and don't like Hamas. And I keep saying Hamas has a history, as these terrorist organizations do, of being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. And Fred puts it at ten percent, You put it at fifty percent. I think the President will put it higher, right. I think he feels witkoff going there. They'll hammer out some deal and he'll do his force of will. It's one of the reasons I think, more than any person in living memory, he deserves, you know, be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, because he is a man of what is this will make it seven or eight wars, something extraordinary. But at the same time, and I think President Trump, he says it publicly, he says, look, I'm very frustrated about Ukraine. I thought I could do it easier. I thought I could do it quicker. I thought I had a better relationship with two He's he talks about this all the time. And so Fred's nailed something. You and I have talked about for a couple of years here in this Ukraine situation America, like we were in Israel in the Twelve Day War. We were a combatant in that war. I kept telling people. When you send ages cruisers there and you start doing defense target acquisition, and when you've got you're sending THAD missiles over on the defensive side, you're a combatant when you go do the expeditionary force hit by our bombers on the total obliteration. But at the same time, folks, you got nineteen seventies technology of Tomahawk missiles coming out of fast attack submarines in the North Arabian Sea, a place as a young naval officer I was in like late nineteen seventy nine, early nineteen eighty. Okay, you're back to being a combatant in the war. And right now, Kurt, what happened in Wiesbaden, and people understand the CIA and Military Intelligence DIA be running a big deal out of Germany with the Brits and with others. Fred Wright, when you start having loose talk and Zelensky's making comments about I need tomahawks, I need patriots and oh, by the way, President Trump, I think he said, not approved, but basically signed off on, was acknowledged new in advance of the deep strike into Russia, what three or four months ago with the drones, something that Curtis LeMay could even fantasize about. We are getting inexorably sucked into the kinetic part of the Third World War. And let me just remind everybody, because nobody talks about this enough. If you go from September one to nineteen thirty nine, the invasion of Poland to January June twenty first of nineteen forty one, the Wehrmach's invasion of Russia with Operation Barbarossa. If you take that time frame and you look at the killing that really initiated the European War part of the Second World War, it pales in comparison to the casualties. President Trump said that they finally gave you the number. I think it's one point eight million from intelligence sources. And the President said, hey, I'm giving you inside baseball. One point eight million Ukrainians dead or wounded and over a million Russians I think dead. So you're talking a scale of two and a half three over million casualties just in Ukraine right now, and one of the reasons you don't see like MSNBC putting up footage every night like they did in the first days of the war. This is like World War one's Western Front. There's been six hundred and fifty thousand Ukrainian casualties this year. And tell me how much MSNBC you're seeing it has shown you like nothing because it's too brutal. So, Kurt, I'm very concerned that with President Trump focused on all this other stuff, we are getting sucked into. And by the way, the hawks in the arms industry, in the Pentagon, and of course the the the insane Lindsey Grahams and these people want us. They want us, they want us in a basic kinetic war with Russia right now. So what's your what's your concern or observations about the Ukraine situation, Sir.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, still reeling from agreeing so much with Fred Flight's on Ukraine. That's not just anybody you had. There was, of course John Bolton's former chief staff and this sort of wartime consiglire to General Keith Kellogg, who of course remains a special envoy on this whole theater. So if that kind of thinking is ascended among the hawk camp. Uh, that's pretty encouraging. I think that the tomahawk idea needs to be, you know, totally ruled out. Something that you haven't missed on this show is that President Putin, the Czar had his big party this week, which is the Valdai Club meeting in Russia, and he made it pretty clear. And this is the sort of language that I think people from Russia have been saying, both overtly and behind the scenes, that they're done with the Europeans. They had seen. They see themselves as a civilization apart, they see themselves as doing something different from the quote West, and that they are not going to work with the Europeans, who they think are basically historyonic and outdated in their thinking. They will work with the Americans.
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Speaker 2: The Americans, I think, and this is also something we've also discussed, is because there's no real love loss between them and the Chinese. They will work with the Chinese. They are more in line with the Chinese now, but they don't trust them. Russia has a border with a massive border with China, not with the US, and so there's an opportunity and people can say it's a sort.
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Speaker 1: Of Pine the sky hang on second, but hang on one second, because you're hitting an absolute critical point. Since the time of what Katherine the Great or Peter the Great, the Russian czars have tried to and this is why the capital was moved to Saint Petersburg, have tried to make and make the case that they're actually a European nation and try to integrate into into Europe. And this is one of the reasons for the First and Second World War. Dugan, who's kind of the overall geopolitical philosopher and UH theoretician, has made this case for years that this uh, this Eurasian, that they're actually a Eurasian power, and the more that and that Europe is walking away from Christianity, it's a failed society, it's had, it's it's going to be the Islamization is only going to take over. And kind of the camp of the Saints that the elites are too feckless to actually save their own countries, and so why do we want It's a civilization that's dying, why would we want to be a part of it? We're actually a Eurasian power. And they make this very elaborate, uh, you know, pitch about how their Eurasian power, and I agree with it, not with the Chinese Counties party, but down even through Persia and that part of that part of Eurasia all the way to the Arabian Sea. Are you saying in this latest meeting that you think that that because if that's now their new policy, that's a major that's a major pivot, and I think that would raise the possibility of Russia potentially having an armed conflict with Europe. I think I think their belief is that when all the European clowns came to President Trump's the Oval office and came out and they really had no commitments on security, They had no money to put up, they have no arms, no troops, and their people have no political will to do it. They kind of clowned themselves. Are you saying now, because of the embrace of the Eurasian strategy, it would make Russia more open to actually armed conflict against NATO? Are you saying they're just walking away from the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I think it's unclear. The person you cited, Dugan is not just some rando. This isn't I think his relationships with Putin are probably slightly overstated, But they know that he as a massive profile and then you know he's pumping out all this philosophical conjecture all the time, and to an extent, I think he represents the vanguard of the Russian state and the Russian project. I think that's an interesting comparison you made with World War One and a lot of ways the situation has reversed. Because I was in meetings in Russels in June and here's some of these you know, these are not low ranking people that I was talking to. Here's some of these Europeans. They were just one more arm shipment away from you know, taking out Putin in Moscow. That's the cast of mind in Europe and versus the Russians think that this war is going just fine. To an extent, parts of Russia, Russian society fears demobilization, fears the end of the war. So these sides are very far apart as to Russia's orientation to the rest of the world. I mean, a they have a lot of strong relations within the global South, but in general, I would say geopolitically they are a lone wolf. Lone wolf can be good or bad, but they have nuclear weapons. They're prow civilization eleven times, and I think it is incumbent upon the United States to work pragmatically with them. They're not going anywhere. And I think what was very interesting about Putin, it's been well observed as interviews with Carlson, etc. Is how sort of melanchol colic and preoccupied with history is. He talked again this week about the collapse after the Cold War, and he sort of signaled all this thinking in the early nineties, none of it came to anything. The sort of Fukiamist fantasy about the nation's getting along, it didn't happen. This is a realist. This is a stone cold hearted man, no doubt. But it's somebody I think fundamentally the United States can do business with if it prioritizes his own national interest as opposed to the endless indulgence of history Onic Europeans.
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Speaker 1: You hang over a second. I want to hold you. Marco Corean joins us mark a pretty massive ruling from the Supreme Court yesterday. Can you walk the audience through what the ruling was and what this man of impact is going to be, Sir.
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Speaker 4: Sure Biden, when he took over, we all know started just letting pretty much anybody in Venezuelans, especially. There had not been many Venezuelans coming across the border before, but he sort of invited them, and so they came in the hundreds of thousands. And then he used something called Temporary Protected Status TPS. It's in the law, but as the name suggests, it's supposed to be a temporary thing for when there's an earthquake or a volcano and we can't send people home right away. What it does is it gives these illegal immigrants social Security numbers, work permits, they can't get deported. And Biden just kept renewing it, and in fact, the most recent renewal was literally a week and a half before the end of the administration. They were on the way out, they were trying to lock these illegal immigrants into the country, and President Trump said, yeah, okay, well, according to the law, the conditions don't warrant. This shall essentially temporary amnesty. And so we're pulling the plug on it. And as you can imagine, you know, the usual suspects went to a district court in San Francisco, and the judges there just said, oh, yeah, that's right, it's mean to do that. So we're not going to let you do it.
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Speaker 4: Now this just recently, this was the second time they slapped down a lower court and have said, look, the law says the president can do this. It's called temporary and he's ending it. And so this is a big deal because up to six hundred thousand or more Venezuelan illegal aliens let in by Biden will lose their work permits, lose.
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Speaker 3: Their ability to stay.
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Speaker 4: And the issue is not so much that they're all going to be rounded up and deported, but that they are going to be they've clearly.
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Speaker 3: Been told you got to go back.
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Speaker 4: And in fact, many, if not most of them never even came from Venezuela. They were already living in Colombia, Ecuador, and Peru for years, and they came because you know, Trump invited I mean Biden invited them. And so essentially what the Supreme Court has said, this is the second time they've had to slap down the lower courts. They've said, Trump gets to tell these illegal immigrants that the party's over and they need to leave.
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Speaker 4: Sir, Well, it's a couple of things. First, don't get in the shooting war. But they'll leave that to Kurt to talk about. But the other thing is a lot of these people came from like I said, from Columbia, from Peru and Ecuador, and so they can go there. And as far as deporting people, I don't mean self deporting, because a lot of people could self deport that way. I mean people we take into custody and throw out. The administration now has agreements with a variety of other countries to deport third country nationals there to I'm pretty sure they have one. They've already finished it with Honduras, and they have it with other countries. So some of these people, especially if they're not criminals, the local governments say, well, if they're criminals, maybe we don't want them, or you're gonna have to pay us more. But if they're just regular working stiffs, sure we'll take them, so we can deport them, or they can deport themselves to a variety of places, including Venezuela. But if not, there's a lot of other places in Latin America that they we can send people, or that they can go on their own.
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Speaker 1: Overall, because we haven't had you on in a while, everything else, President Trump's got going. How do you feel right now? And by the way, the whole thing about Antifa and what's happening in Portland, a lot of in Chicago, in Los Angeles is all about the beginning of the process of mass deportations. Right now. I understand we've had two million Courtney Rosemary jenks two million. We have two million illegal aliens or foreign nationals have left the country in the first two hundred and fifty days of President Trump's second term. But where to cis where do you guys think we stand? And given the severity of this, the reason that I think most people would say this is why President Trump won the twenty twenty four election. Where do you think we stand? Nine months into this?
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Speaker 3: I think we're doing pretty well.
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Speaker 4: Look, there's stuff that I wish extra things that I would wish the administration would do, but we are doing pretty well. I mean, that was our research that showed that the total immigrant population is dropped by two point two million from January through July. We estimate one point six million of them were illegals. And of course it's October now, so the numbers even larger. And we actually have a report coming out next week looking at that number from other angles, and it looks like it's real. A lot of people poo pooed it and said, no, no, this is just surveys, what do they know. But it's a real number. The number of immigrants in general and illegals in particular, is going down, and that's not hard to believe, because there's always churn. Even under Biden, some illegals left. The point is fewer are coming in because the borders shut down. There's still people coming in on visas and not leaving, but the number of new illegals is lower, and more people are leaving, obviously, and so this is a real thing. The administration's got to keep it up because it can't just be talking rhetoric and scare people and then not back it up. But they are backing it up. I would like to see more work site enforcement and less talk of just criminals, because yes, obviously we want criminals out. That's you know, you don't get an award for that. But regular illegal immigrants who want a criminal I mean, aren't you know, non immigration criminals just ordinary working people. They need to go too, And I'd like the President to talk a little bit more about that. So I'll give them an a minus, but it's definitely an a minus. I mean, we are moving clearly in the right direction, and now the administration is taking steps to rein in this H one B issue, which I'm sure you've talked about before. This is the supposedly legal immigration of tech workers, which is a total gam soam Scott, I'm feeling pretty good about it.
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Speaker 1: Kurt Mills, So, Kurt, we're talking about hemispheric defense. We're gonna talk a lot tomorrow on our show about the two and fifty about a pivot back here tomorrow or the Monroe Doctrine from the Arctic Panama Canal. But Latin America is sitting out there, and somehow we got to get you know, we got to help get things right. You got Lula an avid Marxist running Brazil and gonna put he's put Boston are in prison for twenty seven years where they were they're going to kill him. No doubt he's leading the bricks nations. Gold's on a roll in the central banks are buying gold at record rates because they're trying to use gold in these Bilad deals and get it. The d dollarization effort is led by Lula. I know, you libertarians like yourself, all the all the coke guys and libertarians you know, rubbing up on Middle A. He's the greatest. Didn't hear that here in the war room. But now, however, you got to save him. You got to save him Scott Bessten, who's not into bailouts, and get him a twenty billion dollar bailout right. And on top of that, little Marco, our Secretary of State, who's we've tried to shift away from being a neokhon I thought were there. He's got an amphibious ready group off the coast, events away, and they're up on Capitol Hill pitching. And this is the first time that the Trump administration, I think, has ever acknowledged issues structural issues or customs and traditions. So they're trying to get ahead of the war Powers act by saying no, no, no, no, no, You've misinterpreted. These are non state actors. These are drug dealers, and we're going to do a lot more in just taking out these speed boats. The plan is, I think been leaked that they intend to or at least a plan is to tend to take over the ports and transportation nodes in an actual invasion. Your thoughts, sir, Well.
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Speaker 2: The Secretary doesn't appear to be able to give up the old religion, as you are well aware, in the first term, the now Secretary of State was the key interlock in Earth administration selling the new President Trump back in seventeen eighteen nineteen on some of the most hair brain schemes for Latin America. Members of Trump's first team, namely mister Bolton and mister Pompeo, we're very zealous on this. There was a bit of an abortive effort to do that. Everyone remembers the one Guido episode, and so there was a lot of books that this was kind of behind us. There are elements, you know, even members of President Trump's club, This Harry Sargent character, as well as Rick Cornell, who wanted to be Secretary State by most reporting, who wanted to do a deal basically with Maduro. Maduro is a sort of you know, timpot dictator in South America, but not necessarily a major threat to US national security. And I think the risks of going in versus going versus you know, keeping our powder dry are pretty clear. The Latin America has a lot of problems. South America has a lot of problems. But what it doesn't have historically in Venezuela is the one exception Visa Vie Columbia. What it doesn't have is these massive refugee crises that we saw in the Syrian case, in the Libyan case. And so I think the way to think about Mduro is as maybe a Latino Goadaffi, and we what do we learn from the Godaffi case? What do we learned by not listening to Goadaffi himself? If you break it, you buy it, and you will see tons of people flowing over. So I think it is curious, and you know, I think he deserves to do difference as a sort of expert on this. But you're hearing that the people like Steven Miller aligned with Marco Rubio for this regime change plan. I think you can be completely counterproductive. And then if we're going to talk about fentanyl, the reality there, and I think there's concerning a rock war parallels. The reality here is some of these guys are just cooking this up. Fentanyl is not what Venezuela is in the business of. Is there a fentanyl in Venezuela probably above Zea, But Mexico is Theezuela.
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Speaker 1: The CCP and the Mexican cartels or the fentanyl Come on, okay, real quickly. I just want to hold you to break. But if you believe in America first, and we got an hemispheric defense, the question I want you to answer, we get back Latin America is a festering sored. You've got a massive prob in Argentina and if you don't somehow intervene, it's going to spin out of control. You've got a huge problem in Brazil, and you do have a problem down in Venezuela. So if you do want to argue hemispheric defense and come home and have expeditionary power to do total obliteration on the Eurasian land mass, if we sow at times and places of our choosing, how do you do this? The argument of Marco and I think Steve Stephen Miller, is that we've got to set things right here in the Western Hemisphere, and I ask Kurt Mills that on the other side, Tage Gill's going to join us. Sponsored by Birch Gold. Text Bannon b A N N O N at nine eight nine eight nine eight Get the Ultimate Guide. Do it today. It's a Saturday. Watch football with one eye and read this with the other. Check it out. Get to Philip Patrick and the team to talk about why you should consider putting physical gold into your portfolio. Short commercial break. Heere's your host, Stephen K. Bath, Patriot Mobile, Glinster and the team historical what they've helped us accomplish in Texas, including the five seats we picked up of twenty one that's the number, the top numbers, twenty one five in Texas, got sixteen more to go. We're pounding on that starting Monday. We've done the preamble with de Grasse. Of course we got to that's the gross number. We don't want to net out five in California, so we're going to be all over. The California situation is Newsom has banked his political career on winning this referendum and getting stealing fire seats from US. In Jerry Mandarin uh nine seven to two. Patriot call right now, get a US citizen that will answer all your questions of why it's the best mobile service out there. Nine seven to two Patriot, Do it today, Tom Steve Bannon sent you, and you get a free month. In transition, Kurt Mills the question of South America and about if we're going to have a hemispheric defense and enforce the Monroe Doctrine two point zero. You need to sort out the mess down there. But is that just a Is this just a new breeding ground for neo khon three point h Sir.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it certainly could be. I mean, I think there's some positive tailwinds and some terrible headwinds. So I think the optimistic news is that the rumored national security strategy coming out of the Pentagon will emphasize hemispheric defense, as you indicated, and I think there's a way to do that that's very grounded in American history. The Monroe Doctrine is not some twentieth century invention, not some twenty first Neocon stuff. The fifth President of the United States enacted it, and it has worked very well for the US to be the dominant and unquestioned power in the Americas. And it's not necessarily something surely not something that I would seek to overturn. The danger though, and we just talked about Russia Ukraine earlier this morning. The danger is of creating another Ukraine in the US's backyard. President Putin made a mistake in his special military operation. It backfired, it didn't work. He's recovering, and the Russians have moderated their goals. But imagine an outright invasion of one of our neighbors that becomes a breeding ground for all of our enemies to a encourage refuge massive refugee flows and b just muck it up. I think we saw elements of this in June with the Iran crisis. These reports are very, very sort of loosely sourced, but there was indications that the Chinese were planning to do some stuff if the war had dragged on it had become a regime change war. I'm not at all convinced anymore that Jijiiping is necessarily going to invade Taiwan. But if he sees his opportunity, it's like anything in life, like with any gambler. If he sees the US mired in a war, Ukraine and then opening up a new front in Venezuela. I think you could see all kinds of intervention, and there's all kinds of Russian and Chinese and even yeah, Irani and elevanies money coming in there, and it could be a real risk for us. There's a way to do this. Be moderate, be pragmatic, uh, you know, slowly move the Maduro people towards a more reasonable accommodation of the United States and avoid bloodshed.
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Speaker 1: Let's pivo abat. I just want to get you on Israel be foree punch and I got a lot to say about the national new national defense policies coming out. I think it's way too weak on the CCP and Taiwan and all that. But we'll bridge. Colby and the guys are working on I'll have you back on. Maybe we'll get you on tomorrow or on a naval thing to talk about the geopolitics and the strategia. But back to net Yahoo. People don't remember. Most people don't know, or have not never learned or forgotten that Churchill for all the things, these line nights in the West, and the greatest of course, I understand Tucker and guys have a different perspective. But let's say he's one of the great leaders of the West in the twentieth century of Christen the for all the years in the wilderness and coming and warned about the Nazis and actually keeping FDR focus and being one of the key architects of victory, no doubt about that. He war. The Germans surrendered on the eighth of May nineteen forty five, I believe it was mid July of nineteen forty five. Just about sixty days later they called an election and Winston Churchill was turfed out before before the before the surrender of Japan, of which obviously the British Empire was a major part of that. Isn't that in the same situation? Is this in his calculations all about his political viability? Are they thinking right now in Jerusalem and thinking through are they Are they gaming out how he can continue to hold power or end up being like Churchill?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember there's a cover piece a year or two ago in the Claremont Review books my friends over there that it was by Andrew Roberts, the great sort of Churchill's toographer, who called net Yaho the Churchill of the Middle East. Team mentate as a compliment. I think it's more of an accurate statement of fact, which is that net Yahoo, while the towering figure of a quarter century of Israeli politics, is also an invincibly precarious one, and if there is no war, there could be no power for net Yahoo. We don't know. His position is certainly stronger, and he was definitely underrated after the October seventh attacks. But an election is really dicey. And you mentioned the Churchill situation. He lost to a rival not quite as towering, but still a significant figure in British politics, Clement Attlee, who had been the leader of the opposition before the war, had been leader of the Labor Party, you know, into the thirties. Tally Bennett, net Yaho's protege turned rival, has already been Prime Minister, and he could easily sell himself as a safer conservative pair of hands that will just turn down the temperature a little bit for a couple of years in Israel. I'm not I'm sure the White House and Trump will have problems with Netyah, and I think Americans will have problems. We have problems with Bennett, and I think there's reasons to be concerned about Bennett. I have no love loss for him, but this is a far more stable figure net Na, who at this point needs the instability. He needs the crisis. It's almost a sort of gormless desire for chaos. Chaos is how he stays in the mix.
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Speaker 1: Kurt, where do people get your social media and where they get your over the American Conservative Www.
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Speaker 2: The American Conservative dot Com two thousand and two, founded by pat U Caanan, Scott McConnell, and TAKEI against the Iraq War, and my own stuff is at Kurt Mills at c u RT and my llls on X and you know the Internet.
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Speaker 1: So I think I'm pretty safe in saying the Israel First crowd you're their number one. They hate you probably more than anybody, right, I mean, they talk about Tucker and Anston, but you're You're You're kind of the the brains of the operation on the opposition. So the smart guys hate you more than even Tucker. Am I right in saying that?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 2: I think it's a friendly disagreement.
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Speaker 1: Kurt Mills, thank you for joining us, sir. I appreciate you, so Tage Gil. President Trump's team went up to Capitol Hill to kind of get a work around on the war Powers Act, which, by the way, I think the Warpowers Act is totally unconstitutional. We got to try to push that to make sure we can get so. Just like the the electoral Count of eighteen eighty seven, which is I think a great document, we played by the rules in the election of twenty twenty was illegal, but I also think that that has certain unconstitutional provisions, and particularly what they've done to it recently. And he said, we're not They said, we're not going to war with Venezuela, We're not going to war with Mexico. We're not going to war in Central America. We're going to war against nons And they said, we're actually at war with non state actors, these these cartels. And of course President Trump has declared Antifa a terrorist organization. And now you got the US Army, I don't know talking about the eighty second Airborne or or others going actually be deployed to Portland. Asymmetric warfare. How dangerous is this situation in Venezuela, And how quickly do you think it can be sorted out? If we'd go asymmetric actual kinetic war against these drug cartels, sir.
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Speaker 5: It can, it can get very dangerous, but we'll see. You know, we took down Pablo Escobar and there was not a lot of repercussions for that. Everybody said if we bomb I ran, there's gonna be World War three. That did. It happened, So I think the threat I was on the table. It needs to be realized that we need to plan for it because we have there's cartels, and especially in the states where there's legalized marijuana, there's heavy cartel activities, so they have cartel members in the US US and you know, it's kind of like having a Olkada sleeper selts. If we start attacking the cartels in Venezuela and Mexico. Some people say that they're going to start launching terrorist attacks in the US, but that's worst case scenario.
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Speaker 1: We'll see.
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Speaker 5: It might happen, it might not, But I think the safest way to do it is using army special forces. They go in and they work with the locals and attack the cartels that way. And then the more aggressive way to do it is going to be the way we did asymmetrical warfare in the Global War on Terrorism, where we're launching direct action missions against these cartels, their supply supply lines, their training camps, and their personnel, and you know that's going to be flying in the middle of the well, it'll be treated as I think it would be treated as cross border missions. I doubt we're going to go in and actually set up like ford operating bases and Venezuela or Mexico where the cartels are. It'll be like cross border raids where we going in the middle of the night, hit a target and then lead by right.
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Speaker 1: Now, But but but it has been leaked that there is a plan. I'm not saying they're executor, but it's a plan that they're considering to see. I mean this is now three or four publications have it where they're thinking of going in and seizing key ports in Venezuela and maybe even transportation notes, rail rail lines, are rail crossings, et cetera. What what would that That would be a major escalation, right, even if you're going against non state actors, you're actually physically there with with with with troops and material out actually on the ground that then have to be defended.
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Speaker 5: Correct Yeah, correct, yeah, yeah, then yeah, that's the whole different story. Yeah, if we're seizing ports and strategic targets. That's different from striking the partel personnel supply lines that I was talking about. So, I mean that's that's basically like a small scale invasion in places. Then, like you said, once we take those targets, we have to hold them and defend them. So that's a whole different ball of wax. It's it's it's I mean, as you know, it's possible. We invade countries all the time, everywhere, all around the world. So we've got the strongest military in the world and the most technological.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 5: It's definitely possible. And uh, I think I think we can do it without with without sustaining minimal casualties, just because we have the technology. And then you know we're going to get air dominance overnight over there. If we do that, that's that's the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: If we control the air, I think we'll control the air instantaneously, right, not your drones, but combat air combat air patrol. Tay Jonas tomorrow for a naval special being you were a former your former naval personnel as we refer to as Churchill talk to me about. I need a cup of coffee, particularly after the show this morning, I've finished my lot of Warpath Dark Roast. I need to brew another. Tell me where to go to get everything about Warpath Coffee.
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