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Speaker 1: What's Up? Everybody? DJ here from Move the Sticks along with Bucky Brooks our podcast. We look at the NFL through a player personnel perspective, looking at teams, looking at matchup, looking at the NFL Draft. You can catch us on Move the Stix, NFL dot com slash podcast, as well as iTunes. The Around the NFL Podcast mostly Believes in Aliens. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Ands, and I'm joined by a room field listen heroes, Colleen Wolf, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys and girl? Hey Dan, Hey, hey, welcome college. I am the girl you are today, a lady. Let's treat you with respect you deserve. I mean, I I don't even know if that's better now, that's lady worse than girl? I mean, you do you want woman? But the with an why instead of like why can't you just say, hey, guys, it's nice to have you. Do you like walk in the newsroom and say hello female? Like hey, boys, Colleen sitting, I'm not going to change my interest. Okay, you know this is you? Do you? Dan? I like it? Coming after him some post heat right here It's nice to have you back. It's been a while, Colleen. It ever heard of like when someone loses their arm or leg. It's amputated, but they still feel it. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm always here. That's what it's felt like with you gone in the last few weeks. I think the studio I don't know, so she's the phantom leg of the Around the NFL podcast to Colleen sitting in the Mark Sessler chair, Mark on vacation, he'll be back next week. The last two shows that chair has been occupied by Connor or controversially have you Do you have any thoughts on I loved the movies or hilarious and um, the guitar was so good. I need to meet that guy. Patrick Kagogo just shredded on on Wednesday show. Make sure you check it out. A a lot of people saying that should be a regular part of the show, which I would fully support. I think we can. We can work ways to have Patrick's music in here, not just for Patrick is so good. Literally around the corner. I was thinking anytime there's any type of like special circumstances or uh, some type of party on the podcast, the accent here you get the amp and away we go. Birthdays whatever, like this idea of having more parties on the podcast if we ever do, if we ever do, is this a Creed song or not? He could he could play in the Creed song. I don't think he can play that poorly. Uh. I'm I'm still by the way the development right before we went on the air that Greg has a tattoo. I'm rocked by this. What an acknowledgement by the boss. I feel like this is just should have come up at well, we Mark has a tattoo. We didn't wait, I didn't know that. Another surprise tattoo. Oh my god, yeah, Mark. I don't remember what it is. But it's on his arm, like a near like high up on his arm, like nearest bicep. I think Greg, you have one. It's kind of on my upper back. What is the shoulder blade? Do you want? I'll keep that to myself for me. Give a hand. It's it's somewhat regionally specific as some regional It's a strawberry, isn't it. It's a strawberry truck. Oh yeah, the strawberry truck. That's actually a terrible clue now that I think of it's not even right. It's not a Starberry's the state of Delaware state. It's nothing in a map of Robert Craft space. It's gotta be something to do with New Orleans. Oh, stopped at hometown. That's right, good a little bit. It's a fan boat. Okay. Today's episode of Around the NFL, the Around the NFL podcast sponsored by No One, Big fun episode. Today, we're gonna crack open the mail bag at the end of the show. We haven't done that in a while. We'll see what the listeners want to want to know, and we'll try to help him out. You know what I'm You know what I'm saying, woman wolf Um, Yeah, I think where are you going with? I don't know. Yeah, we're trying to help you guys out. Okay. Also, Greg wrote a banger on the site Biggest Week Spots in the a f C. Last week you you rolled out the NFC edition of this correct Monday, Yeah, oh Monday, and now the a f C and just really good stuff. I read it on my way back from Philly. Thank you. Why is West cracking up so much? Greg wrote a banger? I thought it was really good stuff. Greg, once again showcasing his knowledge of the game and all the rosters of the thirty two. Don't you feel like he's been showing off a little bit lately? Very masculine of late as well. It's been a big week for Greg. He pushed me around in the NFL Now studio today. Yeah. I likened it to how Harry Houdini was killed by a punch that he wasn't prepared for. West knocked off his feet by Greg Roseenval fell onto the chair. Well, that's the good thing about being, you know, my size, is that no one can get mad at you for coming after them, because it's just embarrassing. I laughed pretty hard. You're jumping up the masculinity rankings, just soaring the tattoo of someone calling him the strong, silent type a band. I mean, this is all working for you. It's all coming up, Rosenthal And what a week. Uh yeah, So we'll talk about that that post, and then, of course, as we do every show, we're gonna do a little bit of news and before we get to that, we want to check in behind the glass the Irishman. Are you doing? But it's Thursday, Dan, I'm feeling great. Oh big softball games, the Shield I'm not going to be there. Yes, you're either with the other team. If you're gonna be doing HQ, the NFL Network morning show tomorrow. Yeah, so I'm gonna have to go to bed at like three o'clock. What a ridiculous set up. What you call time? What's your call time for that? I usually get in around like one ish one in the morning. Yeah, I know you're doing an East coast time on the West coast. That's when we'll wrap up our postgame activities. I know. I'm really bummed out about this. What I'm saying is you could pull it on it. I mean, I could go full less. Welcome to Colleen's last appearance last Let's do some news Irish so was very little, about one and a half. My
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uncle gave me spell it s p O O N and that's it. That's how it started. If my house was haunted, I would I would hear that child. I have to say this, he needs to get some love. That's a cosh. He's six years old and is in the script's national spelling. Be nothing more annoying than a precocious child. Oh somebody that's parents think they're so exceptionally cute. Give me a break. He's probably adorable. I have to say. Vox Vox put him on a sitcom and ruin the show. That's amazing that they can spell these words. I can't. I'm a terrible spell Bet he doesn't tell funny jokes. Wait, what is this that you're taking shots about, like, you know, liked kids? Yeah, it till it's usually a hail Mary pass when they do that, and then the adults act like they're so precious because that's not because they know they know a little bit more than other six year olds. Tell us more about your feelings about kids. I love kids. I just don't like adults acting like precocious kids or like the greatest things ever there's kids need to be knocked down a pair dance phase, right, I don't know. I'm just letting him go. He's got an opinion, and he just shares their opinions on the show. Um, let's start the news and we'll start with the Baltimore Ravens, who you know what? Has Greg put it in our piece? Their offseason practice schedule just got shorter, you know why. NFL and the Ravens jointly announced Thursday that the team will forfeit one week of O t A sessions from June one to the third. June one, third, uh and both the organization and coach John Harbaugh will be fine for VIOLA violating the cb A, violation of for violating the c b A for a violation that's your text, body fine, I'm looking at it. Have been fine for violating offseason workout rules under the collective Bargaining Agreement. They're in trouble. Have been fired for violating the c b A. For a violation of offseason work rules. We've got to get the edit team on that. Anyway, the team is allowed to edit out that whole part of the show. Go ahead, keep it in. This is disastrous for them, right, This is going to be a major for the editors. Why it's not a dissaster that I mean the team has allowed ten O t A sessions in the off season. The Ravens will do without three of everybody, calm down, professional here. The Ravens will be without three of them, but we'll still have all their mandator mandatory mini camp and training camp. The Ravens and a statement said, we made a mistake and we are sorry for that. We accept the NFL discipline. Are you worried about this? Shaking my head at them right now, I can't believe how dare they would do that? No, this means next to nothing. I I agree not to the coaching step. They're probably really upset, and yet I find I find it interesting because when this first came up, Ian Rappaport said the Ravens sources told him we didn't know we were violating the c B A, and once we realized that, we fixed it. Uh Ian reported that the league did not believe the Ravens that they knew exactly what they were doing, and the there's some good proof out there. John Harbaugh has publicly gone against the the O t A rules again and again, saying that it's stupid, that it's restrictive. I found a quote that said he believed the O t A rules are un American, and so they tried to break the rules. They've been They've lost eight times before in two thousand and ten. The only difference this year apparently is that they have Ben Watson on the team, who's high up in the Union. And ESPN reported Ben Watson was the one that reported them, and so there you go. You should have had all this in your copy. That's it is. It's all in there. I like that. John Harball goes full talk show host on US UN American. I googled, I googled the Ravens O t a stuff, and I was like, Wow, there's a lot here. He just like every year he rails against him, so he tried. He tried to break the rules. I mean, doesn't every way try to break the rules so they can get some type of like advantage. Welcome to the New England Patriots. It's a super move. Your team cheats dot com. I mean, the crazy thing is it's so minor that they wore pads for one one thing. It is more that they were sticking it in the eye of the NFL. So I don't think they liked it. All right, let's move on because it really doesn't matter. Uh Mines running back amer Abdulah is recovering from shoulder surgery, which could keep him out all of uh the offseason workouts. Jim Caldwell, the lines coach, said that Abdulah is recovering nicely, but gave no timeline for the running backs return. He's an interesting guy. Chris Westling uh he led the team with about six hundred yards rushing last season, but had some issues with ball security. Uh four point two yards of carry, which isn't bad, but for a guy that looked like a potential explosive breakout guy, it was a disappointing first year and there's not a lot on the depth chart there. Stephen Ridley looked very slow with the Jets last year. Theo rittic Let's not get too excited Zack Center. I know Sessler loves him some Zack Center, but uh, they need a Meer Abdulah to step up and be a better player this year. Right explosive is in a really explosive burst and first step through the whole and an he has a lot of jukes, but not explosive in a power kind of way, and that kind of worries me. From the history of running backs with shoulder injuries, I've just noticed over the years they don't run with authority when they're coming off of shoulder injuries. We've seen it with Ryan Matthews, mark Ingram and then we see the next year after the shoulder injury, they looked like a totally different back. This would concern me, Well, it's a bad. It's a bad backfield on paper, and Abdullah was going to be the clear lead guy when I went back and did that piece looking back at one of the rookies, at all the rookie carries, he was among the most disappointing because I had such high expectations on what happened, and I don't know if it was just the season war on him, but he
didn't look as explosive as I as I expected. He looked like an okay between the tackles runner actually, but he didn't have as much juice as he seemed to in the preseason and early in the year. But he didn't He get a little bit better at the end of last season. He made some plays, but he wasn't He wasn't consistent. I didn't see it and think, why, Wow, this guy has like Matt Jones for instance. I saw some things I think I think he can be special. Abdula didn't quite show it. I would add one caveat. I thought the lines had the worst run blocking in the NFL ast year. It's fair they yeah, and the stats back that up. They had UH league worst eight three point four yards per game rushing, So you gotta get a lot better and losing Megatron that was always uh, that was that what you would think that would have helped their running game having him there. Now he will be there obviously, so we'll see what happens in Detroit moving on. This was something that did concern me um with the New York Jets, this Ryan Fitzpatrick drama that is now carried into the beginning of their offseason practices. O t A s were open to the media in New York on Wednesday, and sure enough, a major topic of discussion was where's Ryan and Gino Smith? By the way, we talked about Gino a lot, Greg, I know, we we joke around about how much you like him, and you know, but the bottom line is right now he is there, the number one guy on their depth chart. However, now that things have started, the season has started, are the off season practice have started, you realize what a terrible situation this guy is in because he is the number one guy in the depth chart, way more advanced, and all the reporters saw it yesterday than the two kids, Petty and Hackenburg. And yet and all anybody wants to talk about is Ryan Fitzpatrick. And the team has already went out and said, as soon as Ryan Fitzpatrick rejoins US, when and if he's our starter? So where does that leave Gino Smith? And he actually snapped at a reporter who asked about Ryan Fitzpatrick's contract situation. He said, that's up to the front office and Ryan Fitzpatrick, why would I speak on that? And then rich to media. ESPN reported that he refused to take another question from that reporter. Uh. Meanwhile, meanwhile, UH a report from The New York Post Ryan Costello that Eric Decker, who was among three prominent Jets players along with Brandon Marshall and Nick Mangold, that did not show up for O T A S this week. Uh. At least Decker is not showing up out of solidarity for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Get this guy back in the building because it's a huge distraction. Add it all up, and I'm concerned. This is a team UH coming us is a tough schedule. They got a tough scheduled. Now they got this. I know it's May. I'm not gonna put too much into it. Still crashing, but I do not like it. I do not like the way things are starting. It's just bad. You have to like the solidarity like that, because t s are meaningless for veterans like deckorate doesn't
matter, right, it doesn't matter if he's there. But to me, that's a cool thing to be standing by your quarterback. I just agree. But I don't know if it's totally meaningless. I mean, you want fits in a in a perfect world, you'd like Fitzpatrick to be there. You're right, I'm not worried that Decker is not there with Gino Smith this week in particular, but you would like your quarterback to be there. It puts Gino Smith in this situation if he ends up going through this entire offseason and that Patrick doesn't take a single snap in ot S or min, it's just a weird it's a weird thing. It's not like Ryan Fitzpatrick is this is Joe Montana coming back and just has all this talent and experience in the system to Lena, and he's Ryan Fitzpatrick, who it's probably not great that Gino Smith then was throwing two guys like Kembroll Tompkins and Jeremy Ross. Those guys are still in the league. I mean, it's fine, he's getting he's getting reps and actually the the if you want to look at a positive as a Jets fan, not having Fitzpatrick there for these type of practices, and let's the younger guys get a ton of work and they need a lot of work. But I don't know, it just you don't like it's always something with the Jets quarterback position, and I just I wish this would have been taken care of because if this carries through minicamp, then it gets its snowballs a little bit more and then the pressure really comes out. I guess this gives Fitzpatrick a tiny bit of leverage, but I don't think enough to make the Jets blink. So is there any part of this that maybe it like doesn't have anything to do with Fitzy like I think it does completely. But they were they already took part in some of the other team activities and this is voluntary and their vets and maybe they're just not showing up because they possible. Well, maino that a kid and Marshall is not related, so there or it's been reported that it's not related, but Decker apparently is, at least according to Brian Costella. All right, let's move on. Let's talk about you know what. I think it's time. It's that time of year, guys, what time is it? Is a trope alert. Tropolet, tropolet, tropolet, tropolet. De Marco Murray looks like two thousand fourteen Murray in Titans practice. Yeowser, this according to that alarm is still going off to a lot of people to do a lot of Mike Mlarkey, Mike Malarkey, pulla malarkey. Let's be honest, sorry, West. I certainly like some of the cuts I saw, even without pads on. Those were cuts. He wasn't going to get touchdown. It was going to be an explosive run. You can tell when a play is going to work and not work. He's got very good fission and very good feet, and a lot of these things are doing. He's run before, so it's not new to him. Mark marks Mariota also had praise for the twenty year old back, coming off a terrible season in Philly after being the offensive player of the Year in Dallas the year before. Nothing a power running does in padless practices means anything until people are hitting. Then I might start believing it. But we need to see how he looks and training This was an O T, a ultimate like sign that ot as have started. Two quotes came out about his cuts within five minutes of each other. It's like O T seasons here tropt Thunder and the Cowboys used the fourth overall pick on Ezekiel Elliott. But don't expect the young kid, the young Buck to get a starting job right away. Running back Gary Brown. Running back coach Gary Brown had this to say. He's going to compete, he told. He told the Fort Worth Star Telegram, Zeke has to earn it. I think that's the best thing for our team and for those guys going forward. Colleen, if this guy is at the starting quarterback on day one, head should be rolling. Well yeah, yeah, I hope he's not the starting quarterback. But I mean even Ezekiel Elliott looked at this and laughed, there's no this is so ridiculous. Are you kidding? He's gonna turn your position in the NFL. Shout out to Kevin Patrack, who started this post with a talic sized parentheses. Dear reader, please brace yourself for some wicked spin and classic coach speak. Thank you, Kevin. Just going wild with the right. Darren McFadden average more yards per carry last year than DeMarco Murray did in two thousand, fourth team while winning Offensive Player of the Year. He also had the second most one yard rushing games in the league. So bad year for running backs. But Zekiel Elliott does have to earn it, and he came out right at the draft and said that. And he also said that that practice that this Saron McFadden Piazza out He's not gonna happen. Though. Even if McFadden outplays Elliott and training camp, Elliott's gonna get the nod because they need to justify using a fourth, fourth overall pick on a running back all sixteen games to justify. While we're talking Troke alerts. Though I love the headline in the fourth Worth Start Telegram. Shell shocked Ezekiel Elliott having to earn starting running back Why, I guess he said the speed of the practice really surprised him, so he was shell shocked. Oh, I keep coming. Terrell Prior now a wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns, like the best receiver on the Browns besides Corey Coleman. Uh. He would like to tell you that despite being new to the position, I'm ten times better than last year. I look at the film and it amazes me. And I give that to receivers coach Al Saunders because just sitting there and doing the extra meeting time with him in him really breaking down certain routes to me and how he wants them to run. It's awesome. So the guy that looks at the old tape and says that guy was a piece of garbage, I'm the king Now. Well, I hope, I hope he's better than last year. This is the guy who was I guess moving from a quarterback to wide receiver. He's got to be better from what we saw. Not a tromp alerts here? Position change? Uh, you know talk about that, that's a troup alert. Terrell Prior is a troup alert on his own. General Pryor is officially passed Jeff
Jeff Demps as the highest post to production ratio in NFL dot com. It's a big moment for him every day. Can you name a player who had successfully made an impact after having a major position switch. Oh, I'm sure there's so. Joe Cleco like a maybe Pro Bowl, three different positions. They were all defensive line. Yeah, I mean a substantially different positions. There you listen, say no more? Oh no, Well, there's so many Saints safety uh jaris birds bired uh is injured. Shouldn't we just when he's healthy. That's the troupe. That's the troupe. Every off season they just roll out the same old Jari's bird is injured. Stolets come up with some new stuff. Saints guys. He's sitting out the offseason program because of his niece. His knee, there's some soreness in there, but he's expected to be ready for the started training camps. Watch out, he'll be back. He'll be ready, he'll be healthy, all right. And that's what's happening in the news and the tropes. So now it's time for and ends. Let's get some mudgin ends. Get your ruddin ends right here. Wow, how about that? Are we going to close the segment that way? I need to record that Linda was amazing. Yeah, there was dancing that went along with it. Of course. Um that made me laugh so hard the last time you guys did it. So glad we're bringing it back, all right, So I have a couple of odds and ends. Okay, Lindsay is going to anchor this seg well, should we bring her up? I'm all, that's sort of blonde. It's a tough day for Dan and women. Okay, here we go. First, up Kirk Cousins. Um, it's back now. The whole Creed thing that I guess this was last week when he talked about how they were working out and listening to Creed, which was cool and which some teammates were refuting. I guess so. I mean maybe there was only like a couple people in the gym working out at that time. I have no idea. But he opened up about his musical interests and talked about some of the other artists that are on his playlist. This doesn't sound good. Yeah, So in addition to create, he also listens to switch Foot. This is I guess this is all. This is his go to place. Believe that the nickelback cover band switch Foot. I think they were like a Christian It's a Christian rock band. Uh huh yeah. Um so I think one of the songs is love Alone is Worth the Fight. I don't I remember that had a song called Meant to Live in the Okay, then, um, Matt Carney, I don't know who Matt Carney is, And this is the song he listens to when he's lifting. Yes, this is what pumps him up. I don't really in parachute like so this is like I mean, most people listen to like something like upbeat. This is like a breakup song. I mean I feel like these were the songs that I didn't even like listening to in two thousand and five. But if they were on the radio and I was like, really piste off and angry. It's like driving around and maybe switch Foot would be on, but probably not angry at yourself. Yeah, so pumped up. Never defending this guy again anything else. Colleen, Also, we had all right, so this estate uh this real estate blog called a stately stately wait okay, see look at that stop at. So they gathered a bunch of data from Google to find out what the most googled questions were from each state, and actually Will Brinson did a great little write up on this, and yeah, so for Mississippi, for example, was who was Prince is Prince dead? Who killed tupac Um? In Kentucky, what are George's how to pass a drug test? What is cat fishing? And how to make a baby? So Kentucky, but Maryland has drugs. That's weird, what everybody? So? In Maryland, the most popular Google question is is Joe Flacco elite? Which, let's see, I'm going to google it right now. And well, I mean that's I think the jury is still out on that one. The question is that's it's been a joke around Joe Flacco's rear for years now, but like everyone kind of glosses over the fact that it's actually like a really good question. It's so it's so bad that like one of the third results that comes up as like a Donald Trump answers, the question is Joe did Trump got behind Wow? Yeah? Um? And then also I saw that J. J. Watt is hosting the CMT Awards with Aaron Andrews. Um, So that that makes so much sense. I can't take it anymore. All right enough, JJ, I feel like I have to get off the J. J. Watt corner because he might kill me at this point because I've been very vocal about my issues with him as a personality. Uh, but that's that makes perfect sense that he would be wanting to get involved with that show as a host. Yeah, I don't know. I never I've never watched. I'm gonna say, like, we can all continue not watching the country music an have Appleton and Sturgill Simpson not gonna have a big impact? Who yes, Sturgill Simpson, Chris Stapleton, I've heard. I know you're a Stapo fan. Yes, it's like the Stergi Simpleton, Churchill sims And is even better than Chris Stapleton. Really is he better than the Fray? Well, I mean we're showing ourselves to be h West coach elites here not knowing country music. Wasn't this unam or something that's that brings a bell? Yeah? Yeah, it sounds about right terrible. All right, well that's it. And that was odds and ends, odds and ends. Yeah, get your odds and ends right here, we have them odds and ends. That was our third take, by the way, that no one will ever know, oh except for anyone that follows me on Twitter. Check it out. I was reading an article. You know, that's how you got to get the social media accounts, got to give extra content that you can't just get on the show, by the way, West and not to go back to another but it was really bothering me the position change question that he I knew there had to be an answer, and I googled it. I cheated, but there was. There was a couple of real ones. A lot of them were safety. Quarterback Julian Edelman is a great one. That doesn't count. Why not? He was coming after they got to the NFL. He was a college quarterback, just like Terrell Prior. Does not count. This is
totally about once you've established yourself at a position in the NFL. You say Ryan Townehill as well a quarterback in college. He was a quarterback and cauge. Now, because this was a big thing when Tebow kind of flamed out, everybody wanted him to move the tight end. And my point was, you don't just, at age twenty five, after never having played the position in the NFL, no matter how athletic you are, become a successful other position. The next best example. A lot of these were a cornerback to safety, which I don't count. That doesn't count, uh, Frank Giffort running back to what. Yeah, I'm talking like in the last fifty years. But you're right, there weren't. There weren't many good ones. Alright, it was good, it was I liked it, all right, Let's now move on. We'll talk about that Rosenthal Banger, biggest week spot for each a FC team. Wh don't we go around the horn here? And um, Greg went through every team? Does this have a vanity or L does not? Bummer, I can work on that. In fact, I believe I did a now hit where I sent it to a vanity U R L that I would later create, and I forgot to create it. NFC a f C problems that all teams have strengths, all teams have weak weaknesses. In this article, we will discuss the weaknesses of these teams and how they might hurt them down the road. Simple. I like it, Like, yeah, it's perfect, alright, so lets still let's go through the a f C. Colleen, do you want to get us going here? You can either, you know, piggyback on something Greg says. You can disagree with something Greg says or say something totally different. All right, well, I let's go with the colts here. And I actually liked Greg's point because he said the entire defense is a weak spot. But I think we should maybe like focus in on the front seven because that, to me was like one of their huge weaknesses. I think both you had both the defensive line and the offensive line were huge concerns going into the draft, and they didn't address the defensive line until late in the draft, like I guess, like maybe the seventh round, and you look at their edge rushers. These guys are getting so old. Robert Mathis, I mean he's thirty five, he's the only pure pass rusher. And then you have Trent Cole also, I mean Kendall Langford. He has some good years still remaining, but like I think his best year was probably his first with them, and Arthur Jones, you're still waiting for him to get healthy. He's played like nine games and two seasons, so this is like definitely a concern. I think in my book, soft and slow is not a good combination for a front seven. They they've been there for four years, right, Gregson and Pagano, and the roster and the rank of their defense in terms of points allowed has not gotten any better. It's been one of the worst in the league. I would say the roster is probably worse than a very resources into it. And when Codwell was there, they were bad on defense to that second year and and it hasn't improved whatsoever. And it's I think it's
the I would say it's the worst a f C roster. Defensively, I don't think there is the worst one. I don't disagree. I was just thinking of Colleen's odds and songs cut from the show. It's so terrible, Like I can't it was. It was a conversation that happened in the makeup room, and now I'm like really flustered by it. I assume was something we can't talk about on the show. Well I had to do with like childbirth Twitter, that kind totally different. I would prefer we not talk about it, so you like working that is correct? Twitter dot com slash. Greg Rosenthal alright, Wes, why don't you have a shot? Well, Greg has his own team. They thrown up these Patriots some I don't know where he got this that the defensive line is an issue. They have pot Roast Knighting, Alan Branch played really well last year, and Malcolm Brown their first round pick. They're set at defensive tackle. The problem is they don't have their quarterback for four games. That's the big concern. That's fair, but they get him back, and he's one of the best players in the league. When you get him back, he still get it back for twelve games. It's not like coming off an injury. I'd always take. I mean, not that you have the choice, but always take. They're still gonna ben an injury. He's still gonna go twelve and four. It's just a matter if they're gonna go twelve and Oh. They always start slow, though, don't they. I mean, the last couple of seasons they've started pretty well. It's all relative because we always think that, but then they literally have gone twelve and four every year that Tom Brady has been healthy. So but they've had Obviously, everybody remembers the Kansas City loss and their last Super Bowl year, things were pretty Where were they at that point after that loss? In two? And yeah, Week four, Week five, that's about as bad as a guess. And that's all they really need to do. With Garofolo behind um center, Ji Garoppolo, Excuse me, I forgot about him because he kind of fell off the radar. But now every everybody could just like dig up all their like think pieces on Garoppolo. Now they got deep six when Brady's suspension was thrown out, just bring him back up. Nobody will like so sick about a reading of all the appeals and everything. My eyes just start glazing over as soon as I see like m Bank running back the problem. I don't even know whatever. I'm not sure about Dan Lewis coming off of tourn a c L and Lagarrett button too. That's not a great commo you get, I know, much better than what they had in the playoffs. I haven't even heard anything Trophy about Dean Lewis, Like, Oh, Dan Lewis looks like nothing ever happened to him, which is an that's been out there that he's been Yeah, would you call it a trop alert? They they've underplayed. It hasn't been screaming headlines, So I give him credit. I got one here. Patriots running back Dean Lewis could play if the season started next month. Oh that's a trump. I love that player X could play if the season started tomorrow. All
right, I will throw out. Let's go back to the NFC South, the Houston Texans. Greg, you made a good point here. Everybody assumes all that defensive line they have no concerns because you have J. J. Watt. They're the best defensive player in the world. But Greg, you point out you can't start a two positions at once at once, Jared Kraick not there anymore. They don't have a lot of depth there otherwise, so you gotta find somebody to pair him with. And I'll also say Jadeveon Clowney uh is someone to keep an eye on there because the trope I think the Troupe machine has been buzzing with him a little bit too, But we have really no evidence that he's gonna be able to really put it together, and they kind of need that that other guy to kind of really make that defense come together. So that defense is a work in progress. Go quarterback again here, What has brock Ostwallers showing us to think that he's going to be the answer? That's fair. I mean, I'm with you. I'm with you on that. When I'm looking at this, I'm thinking, then they're gonna have a guy starting on their defensive line who on paper doesn't have a lot of promise or exp varience, whether it's Devin Still, Christian Coventon, Brandon Done. I mean, there, it's not a it's not a good group when you're worried about losing Jared Crick. And to your quarterback point, I feel like DeAndre Hopkins made multiple quarterbacks look okay last year, So that helps. I don't think that that like really does anything crazy good for him, but it definitely helps him. Maybe like come along, Swiler can be can be at least that Hoyer replacement level starting quarterback better. I think that's the minimum. I don't think it's I don't think it's that that huge a weakness if he what happens when you run into a mediocre Chiefs team in the playoffs you lose thirty to nothing? All right, keep an eye out for Lamar Miller, Greg that might be a sandwich proper lay out there a little. Nobody loves Lamar Miller. You know you're gonna eat. Lamar is gonna eat, and he's gonna You're gonna eat the words. You know who else does. The scientists were having some fantasy talk like old times, and uh West noticed how high Lamar Miller is getting drafted by fantasy, say too high, something like early second round, the first couple of take about ten twelve receivers before you take. No coach has ever trusted him in short orders or goal line. No coaches trusted him to stay healthy. He's had bad coaches well, and it's hard it's hard to put a defense and offense together all these new pieces and that you're just gonna be good right away. That takes takes time. Doesn't work like that, Greg, do you want to expound upon anything that you wrote. I'm gonna go with the Ravens and let's go with the cornerback situation. Although I was everyone's talking about the Ravens as a team. They're definitely gonna bounce back. Everything looks good, people get healthy. I think that's all true on offense. They've got some holes on defense. I mean they moved la Darius Web to safety. Their number one cornerback is Jimmy Smith, who's a great player. He's had two surgeries this offseason. He might not He hasn't been healthy for last year either, right exactly because of the surgeries. He had two more and he might not be ready for the season. Their next cornerbacks are mid round rookie picks Kyle Ariington, who they want off the team. It's one of the worst cornerback groups I would say in the league. Question Mark defensive end is a weird spot for them. You know, they have Laurence Guy, a couple of guys they drafted Arthur Brown, you remember him, second round pick has kind of been a bust. They'll do anything to not play him, but he right now him or who was it Connor or his brother Zach Or could be starting an inside linebacker, not a question mark. And you gotta face Ben Roethlisberger and that offense twice plus Andy Dalton and your d rushers are getting really old, right, it's it's it's a defense. I'm not I'm not in love with the demons. I's getting a lot better. I don't blame you, all right. You could check out all of Greg's commentary on NFL dot com slash Rosenthal. It's an easy way to get to it at Thanks Buddy, good talk, big week for Greg doing good. There's a lot of love on that side of the table. Did you get your review or something. What's happening? I'm just Greg's doing a nice shower. Right, church, wrong, pew or whatever that phrases. You're onto something, All right, let's move on. Before we get out of here, we want to hit the mailbag. Uh and uh, you know, go through some questions that the audience has. Of course, I had to cycle through all the ones who like if all of you were in the room, who would kill the other guys? When? I love if there you know, if there's a zombie attack, who you're on the zombies first, if you're on an island? Who slits whose throat? Like, we don't like doing those type of questions guys. Uh, but there are some that I found inventially because they all want to kill me first. It's like, so unfair we want to kill you first, or the readers do. I don't know. By the way, the study that we talked about that I talked about the estately study done by a listener apparently Ryan Nickum Yeah, also called back to Gregg's uve that it's donned on me that Roy Green old Cardinals wide receiver, also played cornerback and I believe had seven or options one year. Also, you could make the argument that Dion Sanders had a little success at wide receiver. Can we move on for that topic now? Now we're gonna come back about six minutes talk about Charles Woodson and Rod Woodson. Deon had some nice moments as a deep threat. All right, here we go. We'll start with Charles Montoya at Chuck Man twenty one. Forget common Man ranking. What is the cynical man ranking? Uh, interesting question amongst the heroes, and will open up Uh this to the satellite heroes. Of course, Patrick and Connor as well as Colleen will throw in. Lindsay will throw in, uh, the irishman behind the class. But
there's not a cynical bone in that man's body. Uh So who is the most cynical? West, you're on the floor? Is yours? I think there's some sentiment that that this might be Connor or I think it's the boss. Greg Rosen is the most cynical, most cynical. I don't know. Sessler is pretty cynical, snooty. I what about Patrick, by the way, he's just angry. I disagree with that. West Connor was the first person that comes to mind here. I think he is. He's the most cynical. I would have put Patrick next. You know, I love things things that I love. I love him, I love football, I love my job, I love books, I love my family. I got a lot of love. Just because you love your family doesn't mean you're not cynical. Here's the Dictionary definition of cynical Distrusting or disparaging the motives of others, like a characteristic of a cynic. Number Two, there's an adjective, just in case anybody know, showing contempt for accepted standards of honesty or morality by one's actions, especially by actions that exploit the scruples of others. Three bitterly or sneeringly, distrustful, contemptuous, and or pest some mystic. Right, let's say in general, I have some homework for all of you cynics out there, Google Cherub Scorn and Robert Frost. Okay, that's all I'm saying. Okay, everybody take note of that you have an assignment when this podcast is done. I am sneaky optimistic. I would put all right West and I at the bottom of the cynical rankings. I don't I mean, Dan is not cynical, and I don't think West. I've got some major issues, but cynicism isn't one of them. Wolf, You've got a little bit cynical. Yeah, it's hard to say what you call someone cynical, Like is that a shot? That's not really I don't think like my mom is. The is like a super SI. It's kind of like locker room lawyer. Even though you just read the definition. I'm not sure. I still fully understand what cynical means. Okay, let's move on. I don't know about this. Here we go, Richard Hunter at not that Hunter. Are the criminally underdiscussed Chargers the best sleeper pick to make the playoffs in the a f C. All right, well we call your bluff. Rich We're talking charges. Greg love this question because I'm with you, Richard Hu. I think the answer is yes. I like this. I like this Chargers team. I was thinking, Wow for a four and twelve team, this is a good looking roster, not a lot of big holes, got Philip rivers. I do think they could be a playoff team. They might be one of my and that and that backfield foof Okay, that's that's a little bit of a hole. That s That was a cynic shot right there by, wolf Spoon dooggle. I agree with the question. I would sell the Brooklyn Bridge for like three beans and some rice. Super specific. Uh, it's not they're not criminally underrated or what ever. They're on double under talked about. Yeah, they're on double secret probation because you guys forced me into making them the team of a t L a couple of years ago. Yes, they were they were boring, but I do I do agree that they're the most likely a FC sleeper to make the playoffs. Uh. Next up this one from Tom Parry Jones at Tom Parry Jones, what are the odds of you guys coming to London in ten? Will throw that one to the boss? I don't know yet. We have been working at it. We've come up with some plans with the proposal that's in the process. I we haven't had a lot of a lot of progress lately, but we've actually done homework. We've done some work. We are trying to try. It's it's it comes down to whether the Shadowy League figures deem it a necessity or worth their investment to send all of us there. That's what we're trying to convince them of. Are you going colleague out? I think what we should do is stand outside the Shadowy League League figures office, sort of like the guy in New England who's standing outside Gilette Stadium waiting for I think we should just stand and wait it out until they say yes, and just like like a holdout. What do you think the Shadowy League office looks like? It's like the light is really dim. Everybody has like top hats on. Here's here's the thing. If any Shadowy League figures listen to this show, Um, this is a good time to tune in. You can send people to go talk, you know on camera. Uh, maybe they're gonna write one thing during week, probably not. Or you can send people that are going to write fifteen to twenty things, do some reporting, and can still and do the podcast where we put a hundred and fifty whatever whatever it is listeners into a bar and we can still do the same talking on the camera. You don't even have to send the camera. That's a lot of contents in a bar about Mexico, Hico. I would love that. Maybe that'd be fun too. All right, let's move on. Zach silver at legume underscore dupree okay bro Uh Instead of this one was also sent to Colleen. So I'll ask you first, Colleen, instead of building the quote perfect QB as we did on Wednesday's podcast, could you build the part the perfect RB running back? So I would think I will go through a list of things the perfect running back, Colleen? Uh for speed speed alone or speed god? Um, I feel like I just want to put like Levy on Bell for everything. Um wow, but who's the fastest running back in the league right now? Well, yes, you do those next gent stats, David Johnson recorded the fastest running back speed but the ball in his hands and twenty two and held that spot all year long. Okay, so Dave Johnson, that's slid alright. Cutting Shady is not a bad bad guy just for speed. This next one cutting ability. Oh that's McCoy probably shady and unless West, I know, you think he might be on the other side. Now, I wouldn't have a person of his character on my football team or Abdullah. If we're going by the tip alert m about a field vision, you gotta you gotta have that when you're making your way through the line. I feel like that's laughing on. I think I don't know an upset there is Todd Gurley, and I think Todd Gurley that that is the thing I think that separates him as he came into like well, the fact that he can do everything. But that's something that that you can't teach that he has. Maybe is so patient alright, how about power? Adrian Peterson? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you ever shake that guy's hand more own crush it. Yeah, schuck his hand at NFL honors and like, sure to not do that. I'm not even joking around, like I've you know, probably shook the hands of thousands of people. Now, my ol, Mr Gladhander, I've met many humans, and let me tell you, Adrian Peterson has by far the strongest script which is funny because he's had ball security problems in his career, especially in big games. But all right, and lastly so yes, but he's the most powerful back receiving ability. That's gotta be levy on right, Yeah or oh, I like that four days up there to the end of his career was up there. But I'll take the best. I'll take the best by far receiver among running backs last year Dion Lewis. Oh, that's true, not just his ability to catch the ball, but smoking linebackers off the line of scrimmage with ease. And this one, you know, we're Doug Martin. I don't know how this became a category. It's like leadership or tangibles. I don't even know what that means. So nobody Danny Woodhead that would be pluck intangibles. I thought we were going with. Yeah, we're deciding on intangibles or another thing people should make. I feel like Forte would be a good intangibles guy. D'Angelo Williams, Dan, why don't get Lamar Miller the perfect Machine? All right? You got anything else? No? I think it's about it. Let's see if anyone asked something in the last secd Gore would be a good intangibles guy. Yeah, Greg's boys about Greg Rosenthal Hall of Fame stable? He is he is maybe the number one spot in the stable. What do players get when they when they go to the stable or the Hall of Fame? Well, West, it's really the one who holds a real stable together. What is your policies? Maybe we'll revisit it. I don't have any policies. It's easy to get kicked out though, just ask Godell Beckham. All right, last question, this also from Tom Parry Jones. Good job Tommy. What is the music that plays over our outro at the end of each show? Well, it's this, Oh yeah, we look good bye. The outro is Dan hands a silent storm for Connie Fox, the Mailman, the Boss and Irish behind the Glass. See you next Tuesday. 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